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Jaguars’ defeat not suitable for film study

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 16th, 2010 at 4:22 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and quotes Thursday with on-site help from beat writer Steve Corkran:

– Turns out the Raiders had their first ever “Defeat Monday” this week. Getting Monday off is normally associated with a win. It happened fairly regularly following wins under Art Shell (all two of them) and Norv Turner, less so under Lane Kiffin and eventually Tom Cable.

Following a loss, however, it’s always been time to get back to the grind.

Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said he hadn’t even looked at Jacksonville game film.

“We came in and coach said, `It was a tough game. We lost, I trust everybody feels like (expletive) and we’re going straight on to the Denver game.’ So I just took the cue from Cabes _ he wanted to move on, so I moved on.”

Coach Tom Cable said players were given cut-ups and things were emphasized, just not as a part of a regular Monday.

“I don’t think there’s an easy way to do it, I just think it’s the most obvious,” Cable said when asked if that was the easiest way to deal with a difficult loss. “You want to get on to the next one as soon as possible.

– While practice sessions in Denver seem to indicate a growing role for quarterback Tim Tebow _ perhaps even a start _ Cable said the Raiders are still counting on seeing starter Kyle Orton.

“I think he gives them the best chance to win. I think that’s pretty clear,” Cable said. “But it wouldn’t surprise me to see Tim some.”

Cable’s evaluation of Tebow coming out of the draft?

“He’s a good athlete, he’s got a ton of leadership ability, he’s a winner, it’s whether or not he could develop into a guy who could be in a pro-style system and play in this league. I haven’t seen a lot of him, so it’s really hard to talk about him now.”

– Still no Rolando McClain at practice. Cable holds out hope McClain will be able to play Sunday and said he’s improving, noting it’s a “deep-tissue issue.”

He said it’s a toss-up at this point whether Johnnie Lee Higgins or Nick Miller (both limited with ankle issues) would return punts.

Also limited in practice were defensive tackle Richard Seymour (knee), cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (ankle), backup quarterback Kyle Boller (quad) and safety Hiram Eugene (ribs).

– Kelly reprised an old favorite when describing the propensity of the defense for giving up big plays.

“It ain’t been a situation where people are just marching up and down the field,” Kelly said. “We’re just stop, stop, boom and there will be a big play. You go back and look a tthe games, I am srue there are a couple of 50- or 7-yard plays. Big chunk plays in every one. The Tennessee game, the Arizona game with the kickoff (return) . . . as long as we keep the big plays to a minimum, we will be OK.

“We just have to keep people from having the big chunk plays and keep those plays to 10-yard gains, at the most 15 yards. Just get the man down and play another set of downs.”

– Kelly was asked about the possibility of receiving a Pro Bowl berth. (How many people thought that question would be asked this year?)

“That would mean a lot to me, but at theend of the day I would rather have the respect of people around the league than fans,” Kelly said. “If the other guys you go against respect you, that carries a little more weight than even from the coaches. Respect from plyer to player, to me, is the highest honor.”

Kelly, unfortunately, will never find out the player vote. The NFL chooses Pro Bowl entrants next Tuesday based on votes from the fans, players and coaches _ one third each. Tallies are not released.

In the case of a player like Kelly, often a Pro Bowl selection does not accompany a breakout year. Seems there’s often a lag time involved until a player’s reputation carries weight with voters in all three areas.

– Stanford Routt on the big plays given up against Jacksonville:

“It was either technique or just one of the four defensive weapons _ eyes, hands, feet and leverage. All four of those weapons, or lack thereof, showed up in all of the big plays we got beat on in the second half.”

– The more right tackle Langston Walker watches running back Darren McFadden, the more he feels as if he’s running in quicksand.

“It just makes you realize how slow you are,” Walker said. “I mean, I’ve seen him run from some pretty fast guys, guys that had a pretty good angle on him, and it makes your job a little easier because defenses are gearing towards him and it opens up the pass a little more. I mean, he’s a threat any time he touches the ball, whether it’s handed to him or we find him out on a route.”

– Tim Tebow took the majority of the reps in practice and even Brady Quinn got some as Kyle Orton rested a sore throwing arm.

Asked by Broncos’ beat writers if Tebow was ready for a bigger role in the offense, cornerback Champ Bailey said, “I think eh can take on anything thrown at him. He’s a guy that has seen a lot _ especially through his college days. I think everybody is a little bit anxious to see what he does in the league.”

– In this “Hindight is 20-20” NFL draft do-over
by CNN-SI’s Don Banks, the Raiders pass on Rolando McClain this time and instead select Dallas wide receiver Dez Bryant at No. 8. McClain goes No. 20 to the Houston Texans.

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613 Responses to “Jaguars’ defeat not suitable for film study”

  1. KoolKell Says:

    Kool

  2. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Aint too cool.

  3. KoolKell Says:

    – Kelly was asked about the possibility of receiving a Pro Bowl berth. (How many people thought that question would be asked this year?)

    “That would mean a lot to me, but at theend of the day I would rather have the respect of people around the league than fans,” Kelly said
    —————————-
    Not a very fan friendly organization, huh?

  4. JLofty Says:

    man, I hope the topic gets back to football. Or at least drifts more to scanda-cans.

  5. Just Fire Baby Says:

    TK the pro-bowler.

    I would say only myself and Jhill could have saw that one coming.

  6. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    I was in Denmark early July. As a whole…….probably the finest I’ve seen.

    You been to the Karel Club yet, LMN?
    _______________________________________________________

    KoolKell…

    nopes, and I dont think im gonna… im not a clubbing kinda guy… im more of a beer-guy..

    but if we get a some visitors, me and my colleagues might entertain and bring them there

  7. YoungAmerican Says:

    If I were a pro, I’d much rather be respected around the league than by fans. Fans are fickle, and the perception of you around the league is what’s going to determine if you get another job or a big contract or not.

  8. KoolKell Says:

    LMN

    The babes are there in droves, seriously. Trust me.

  9. JLofty Says:

    Seems like Cable needs to get up to speed on the film study of Teeebow. No excuses.

  10. M Lonetree Says:

    what? no one’s lining up to interview last year’s flavor of the 1/3 season, that Belicheat disciple, that “genius” of the gridiron, The one and only Josh! (y’all do know that “to josh” means “just kidding”.)

    agree with Barney Rubble on this one. no need to rehash. Jacoby fumbles Raiders lose. Jacoby doesn’t fumble Raiders win. No need to rub the kid’s face in it.

  11. YoungAmerican Says:

    Seems like this Raiders team would be wise to watch the game film, and realize that over-pursuing the ball carrier is what leads to those big plays.

  12. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kind of takes the luster out of victory Monday, when you give them the same reward for choking away the season.

  13. JLofty Says:

    In my limited travels of the globe, the scandanavian women were far and away the most beautiful. And I prefer darker women quite frankly. Bergen, Norway particularly stood out as even the old people were good looking. Oslo and Copenhagen also very yummy. Nice, and the Cot d’Zur is general had a lot of talent. I’ve never been but I bet I’d like the women of Rio and Tehran as well.

  14. KoolKell Says:

    Bad weather here. Devasting Loss in Jville. Be interesting to see if the Raiders quit.

  15. La Milicia Negra Says:

    wow..

    we were actually #2 on that list.. man its great to be a viking =) LOL

  16. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    I just read the draft re-do link.

    Banks has 4 Raiders drafted in the first round:

    McClain
    Houston
    Ford
    Veldheer

    It’s been a while since we had as good a draft as last year.

  17. KoolKell Says:

    Healthy babes in Austrailia. Beauties in Singapore with the mix of Chinese, Sinaporean, Indonesian and Malaysian…….my god.

  18. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Wonder what a draft re-do of 2009 would look like.

    DHB would probably be the 14th WR taken.

  19. MistaTheGuru Says:

    And you have a real eye for beauty as we all saw the link with a pic of your wife!

    lol
    ______

    # KoolKell Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 4:41 pm

    Healthy babes in Austrailia. Beauties in Singapore with the mix of Chinese, Sinaporean, Indonesian and Malaysian…….my god.

  20. Sweep The Leg. Says:

    Don Banks of SI did a 2009 Draft Redo.

    The Lions future looks bright!

    Draft redux

    Re-projecting the 2009 first round based on season-to-date performances
    It’s 20-20 hindsight time, when I get to re-pick the first round of the 2009 NFL Draft with the benefit of 14 weeks of regular season results to guide by. Our sixth annual December NFL re-draft attempts to detail the way things should have unfolded in New York on April 26th, based on how things have gone so far this season. As always, rookie-season production, for the most part, wins out over potential and projection in our re-draft. (React to the re-draft here.)

    Don Banks’ 2009 Revised NFL Draft
    1
    Detroit Lions (Original pick: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia)
    RE-DO PICK: MICHAEL OHER, OT, OLE MISS
    I’m not making the case that Stafford was a mistake, only that playing a franchise quarterback before you have an offensive line to protect him is putting the cart before the horse. Stafford has gotten killed this season (24 sacks in 10 games), and it makes more sense for Detroit to have gone for Oher, the draft’s top-performing tackle, to protect someone’s, uh, Blind Side. Oher has played well at both right and left tackle for Baltimore this season, and scouts say he’d be a consensus top 5 pick if the draft were re-held today.

    2
    St. Louis Rams (Original pick: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor)
    RE-DO PICK: MATTHEW STAFFORD, QB, GEORGIA
    The Rams have passed on at least four first-round quarterbacks in the past two drafts — Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco in 2008, Mark Sanchez and Josh Freeman in 2009 — and there’s no team in more obvious need of a new starting quarterback for 2010. With that in mind, and Smith having underperformed as a rookie, I’d select Stafford here, with the knowledge that St. Louis could have given him a redshirt season of sorts while Marc Bulger and Kyle Boller served out this long and trying season for the Rams.

    3
    Kansas City Chiefs (Original pick: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU)
    RE-DO PICK: PERCY HARVIN, WR-KR, FLORIDA
    With six receiving touchdowns, two kick return touchdowns, and 13 plays from scrimmage of at least 20 yards, Harvin has been the league’s most electrifying rookie play-maker. The Chiefs could sure have used a jolt of offense from their rookie class. They’ve scored 16 points or fewer in nine of 13 games this season, and their offense ranks 30th overall in yards (272.4), and 28th in points (15.8).

    4
    Seattle Seahawks (Original pick: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest)
    RE-DO PICK: BRIAN CUSHING, LB, USC
    Curry has been very solid for the Seahawks, but Cushing has been downright spectacular for the Texans and is already one of the league’s most effective outside linebackers. He finds the ball consistently, and can rush the passer, play the run, and shows up strong in pass coverage. What else is there? As much as Seattle could have made use of an offensive tackle this year, Cushing has been too good to pass on.

    5
    New York Jets (Original pick: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC)
    RE-DO PICK: SANCHEZ
    Sure, it has been a rollercoaster first season for “the Sanchise” in New York, but that’s a fairly typical rookie experience for a quarterback, at least before Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco blew the curve for everyone last year. The Jets needed a quarterback, and they took a quarterback. Now it’s time to grow with him. Sanchez showed flashes of brilliance early, but his limited collegiate playing experience eventually caught up with him.

    6
    Cincinnati Bengals (Original pick: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama)
    RE-DO PICK: PHIL LOADHOLT, OT, OKLAHOMA
    The juxtaposition must have been a bit obvious Sunday in Minneapolis. The Bengals gave Smith his long-awaited first start at right tackle, and he fared OK against the Vikings defensive line. But Minnesota selected Loadholt toward the end of the second round (54th) and he has excelled at right tackle, starting 12 of 13 games and handling most everything thrown at him.

    7
    Oakland Raiders (Original pick: Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland)
    RE-DO PICK: MICHAEL CRABTREE, WR, TEXAS TECH
    C’mon, we couldn’t resist. Crabtree was right. He should have never gotten past the Raiders in April’s first round and we’re here to right the wrong. Despite the belated start to his rookie season, his half-year of work is pretty impressive. He has 37 catches for 473 yards and a pair of touchdowns in eight games, and if you doubled those numbers, his 16-game production would be the stuff of an Offensive Rookie of the Year winner.

    8
    Jacksonville Jaguars (Original pick: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia)
    RE-DO PICK: SEBASTIAN VOLLMER, OT, HOUSTON
    The Jaguars have started their two rookie offensive tackles, Monroe and second-rounder Eben Britton, for most of the season, and both have had their highs and lows. But Vollmer, the 58th overall pick, has been one of the draft’s bigger surprises, starting 11 games and playing well enough at left tackle to probably end Matt Light’s tenure in New England in the near future. All you really need to know is that Bill Belichick clearly trusts Vollmer to protect Tom Brady’s blind side.

    9
    Green Bay Packers (Original pick: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College)
    RE-DO PICK: CLAY MATTHEWS JR., LB, USC
    The Packers sure could have used a young offensive tackle to help protect Aaron Rodgers earlier this season, but with the three best ones (Oher, Loadholt and Vollmer) already gone, it’s logical to bump the play-making Matthews up to this slot. Because there’s no way he’ll last until Green Bay’s No. 26 pick this time around. Matthews’ eight sacks rank second among league rookies, and he continues to improve as the season unfolds.

    10
    San Francisco 49ers (Original pick: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech)
    RE-DO PICK: JEREMY MACLIN, WR, MISSOURI
    With Crabtree already in Oakland according to our re-draft, the 49ers would be fortunate to find Maclin still available. The Eagles receiver has been among the leading rookie play-makers all season, and before suffering a foot injury Sunday night against the Giants, he had 46 catches for 623 yards and four touchdowns in Philly’s explosive offense.

    11
    Buffalo Bills (Original pick: Aaron Maybin, DE-OLB, Penn State)
    RE-DO PICK: BRIAN ORAKPO, LB-DE, TEXAS
    Orakpo has a whopping 11 sacks to lead all rookie pass rushers, and that’s exactly 11 more than the Bills have gotten from Maybin, one of the first round’s biggest disappointments. Orakpo dropped Raiders quarterbacks four times on Sunday in Oakland, vaulting himself into strong contention for Defensive Rookie of the Year.

    12
    Denver Broncos (Original pick: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia)
    RE-DO PICK: MORENO
    With the possible exception of having Moreno hold on to the ball as he crossed the goal line a few weeks back against San Diego, I wouldn’t change a thing about his rookie season for the Broncos. He leads all rookie rushers with 837 yards and five touchdowns, and has been the picture of consistency, with seven games of at least 75 yards.

    13
    Washington Redskins (Original pick: Brian Orakpo, OLB-DE, Texas)
    RE-DO PICK: LESEAN MCCOY, RB, PITT
    With the Redskins’ struggles on offense and their lack of healthy running backs (see Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts), they sure could have used McCoy this season. The Eagles rookie has produced 814 yards of combined rushing and receiving, giving Philadelphia yet another play-making weapon in its arsenal.

    14
    New Orleans Saints (Original pick: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State)
    RE-DO PICK: AARON CURRY, LB, WAKE FOREST
    The Saints love Jenkins and he has contributed significantly to their storybook season, but Curry’s too good to pass on given New Orleans’ need for some youth at outside linebacker. Before getting hurt in Houston on Sunday, Curry was putting together a quality rookie season, with 60 tackles, two sacks and two forced fumbles.

    15
    Houston Texans (Original pick: Brian Cushing, LB, USC)
    RE-DO PICK: JAIRUS BYRD, S, OREGON
    Cushing, Matthews and Curry are gone, and James Laurinaitis plays middle linebacker, where the Texans already have DeMeco Ryans. But having to face Peyton Manning and the Colts twice a year, Houston could really use a ball-hawking free safety like Byrd, whose nine interceptions lead the entire NFL, rookies and veterans alike.

    16
    San Diego Chargers (Original pick: Larry English, OLB, Northern Illinois)
    RE-DO PICK: REY MAUALUGA, LB, USC
    We’re just subbing in the hyperactive Maualuga for English, because if the Chargers are looking for Shawne Merriman’s eventual replacement, they could do worse than the former Trojans linebacker who has been a steady performer this season in starting all 13 games for the Bengals.

    17
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Original pick: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State)
    RE-DO PICK: FREEMAN
    It’s a tough call, because the Bucs need help everywhere. But Freeman showed enough promise in the first few games after being inserted into the lineup at midseason to pique our interest, and given the draft slot Tampa Bay is going to own in 2010, you don’t want to take a QB at No. 1 or 2 if you can avoid it. Linebacker, safety and receiver all make sense, too, but quarterback is always the top priority if the need is great.

    18
    Denver Broncos (Original pick: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee)
    RE-DO PICK: LOUIS DELMAS, S, WESTERN MICHIGAN
    Given the age and wealth of experience the Broncos have in their secondary, a young, play-making presence like Delmas would be a great fit for the future. Delmas has been one of the bright spots in Detroit this season, and the undersized hard hitter is reportedly the first rookie in NFL history to notch a safety, a fumble return for a touchdown and an interception in the same season. Works for me.

    19
    Philadelphia Eagles (Original pick: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri)
    RE-DO PICK: JAMES LAURINAITIS, LB, OHIO STATE
    The Eagles have enough offense to win with these days, but where they need help is in the center of their defense, namely the middle linebacker spot that has been a black hole on the injury front. If the Eagles had Laurinaitis, who has been solid as a starter from day one of camp for the Rams, they wouldn’t have had to go out and re-sign the likes of Jeremiah Trotter.

    20
    Detroit Lions (Original pick: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State)
    RE-DO PICK: PETTIGREW
    The former Oklahoma State standout was on his way to an impressive rookie season when he suffered a year-ending knee injury on Thanksgiving against Green Bay. Pettigrew had 30 catches for 346 yards and a pair of touchdowns in his 11 games, and had lived up to Detroit’s expectations in almost every way. A cornerback like Malcolm Jenkins or Vontae Davis would be the temptation if our choice wasn’t Pettigrew.

    21
    Cleveland Browns (Original pick: Alex Mack, C, California)
    RE-DO PICK: CHRIS “BEANIE” WELLS, RB, OHIO STATE
    Have you seen the Browns running game this season? Me neither. And now, with Jamal Lewis retiring at year’s end, Cleveland could use a boost on the ground more than ever. At least with Wells, the popular former Buckeyes star, you’d be throwing the Browns fans a (dog) bone.

    22
    Minnesota Vikings (Percy Harvin, WR/KR, Florida)
    RE-DO PICK: B.J. RAJI, DT, BOSTON COLLEGE
    Let’s face it: This year’s Vikings don’t have a lot of glaring needs. But sometime in the near future they could use some youth at defensive tackle, where the Williams Wall can’t play forever. Raji hasn’t looked like a top 10 pick this season, but lately he’s starting to show flashes of why Green Bay took him at No. 9.

    23
    Baltimore Ravens (Original pick: Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi)
    RE-DO PICK: VONTAE DAVIS, CB, ILLINOIS
    The Ravens haven’t gotten the play at cornerback they expected all season, and we have to address that in our re-draft. Baltimore would have plenty of good choices here, including Malcolm Jenkins, Sean Smith and the surprising Jerraud Powers. But Davis has been a big-play maker for Miami, with a team-best three interceptions, including one touchdown return and one pickoff of Tom Brady in the end zone.

    24
    Atlanta Falcons (Original pick: Jeria Perry, DT, Mississippi)
    RE-DO PICK: MALCOLM JENKINS, CB, OHIO STATE
    Between injuries and ineffectiveness, the secondary has been the Falcons’ Achilles heel all season, and Atlanta would have many of the same good cornerback choices that Baltimore had just before them. Jenkins has found different ways to contribute to the success in New Orleans, including some strong early season special teams play.

    25
    Miami Dolphins (Original pick: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois)
    RE-DO PICK: SEAN SMITH, CB, UTAH
    The Dolphins took Smith 61st overall, in the second round, and he’s started all season for them and played well. He’d never linger on the board past the top 30 these days. In a strong year for rookie corners, two more names to know are Jacksonville’s Derek Cox and Indy’s undrafted find, Jacob Lacey.

    26
    Green Bay Packers (Original pick: Clay Matthews Jr., LB, USC)
    RE-DO PICK: AUSTIN COLLIE, WR, BYU
    The Packers offensive line still needs help, but I’m not giving Green Bay Jason Smith, Andre Smith or Eugene Monroe just because they wore a first-round grade last April. The Packers would be lucky to have Collie fall to them, and he’d make a fine replacement for Donald Driver whenever the veteran calls it a career. Collie leads all rookie receivers with 50 catches, with 540 yards and six touchdowns.

    27
    Indianapolis Colts (Original pick: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut)
    RE-DO PICK: HAKEEM NICKS, WR, NORTH CAROLINA
    The Colts probably would take Brown all over again, but I’m giving them Nicks, the Giants receiver who has worked his way into New York’s starting lineup this month. Nicks’ 685 yards leads all rookie receivers, and six of his 38 grabs have gone for touchdowns. With 11 catches of at least 20 yards, only Percy Harvin (12) has more among rookie receivers.

    28
    Buffalo Bills (Original pick: Eric Wood, G, Louisville)
    RE-DO PICK: KENNY BRITT, WR, RUTGERS
    The Bills had offensive line issues they never solved this season, but we can’t overlook Britt, who has been right there in an almost unprecedented group of productive first-year receivers. With Britt filling the big-receiver role in the future, Buffalo can make its Terrell Owens era just the one-year experiment it looked to be all along.

    29
    New York Giants (Original pick: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina)
    RE-DO PICK: LOUIS MURPHY, WR, FLORIDA
    Without Hicks to nab at No. 29, the G-Men would have some good choices between Murphy, the fourth-round pick of the Raiders, Mike Wallace, who went in the third round to Pittsburgh, and Johnny Knox, the speedster who Chicago took in the fifth round. We opted for Murphy, because he’s a big receiver who seems to have a knack for coming up with the clutch catch. Just ask the Steelers.

    30
    Tennessee Titans (Original pick: Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers)
    RE-DO PICK: DEANDRE LEVY, LB, WISCONSIN
    Having missed out on Britt, the Titans could have easily continued the late-round run on receivers by taking either Wallace or Knox (Nashville could have been Knox-ville in that case). But if Keith Bulluck’s days in Tennessee are nearing an end, Levy would be a good replacement. Detroit’s third-round pick has been a solid, steady contributor this season, starting eight games for a Detroit defense that has nowhere to go but up.

    31
    Arizona Cardinals (Original pick: Chris “Beanie” Wells, RB, Ohio State)
    RE-DO PICK: SHONN GREENE, RB, IOWA
    The Jets have relied quite a bit on Greene in the season’s second half, after Leon Washington’s injury, and the former Hawkeye has responded with a 5.0 average carry, a couple of touchdowns, and one huge 144-yard rushing day in a win at Oakland. The third-rounder is a decent substitute for Wells, who didn’t last until the bottom of the first round in our draft redux.

    32
    Pittsburgh Steelers (Original pick: (Evander Hood, DT, Missouri)
    RE-DO PICK: MIKE WALLACE, WR, OLE MISS
    The Steelers took Wallace in the middle of the third round in April, but they’d have no such luxury at this point. As disappointing as Pittsburgh’s title defense season has been, Wallace is an exception to the rule. He has more than replaced third receiver Nate Washington, and his 16.6-yard average catch highlights a rookie season that so far has produced 32 receptions for 530 yards and three touchdowns.
    * First-round picks who did not make the cut this time: No. 2 Jason Smith, Rams, OT; No. 3 Tyson Jackson, Chiefs, DE; No. 6 Andre Smith, Bengals, OT; No. 7 Darrius Heyward-Bey, Raiders, WR; No. 8 Eugene Monroe, Jaguars, OT; No. 11 Aaron Maybin, Bills, DE; No. 16 Larry English, Chargers, LB; No. 18 Robert Ayers, Broncos, DE-LB; No. 21 Alex Mack, Browns, C; No. 24 Peria Jerry, Falcons, DT; No. 27 Donald Brown, Colts, RB; No. 28 Eric Wood, Bills, G-C; No. 32 Evander Hood, Steelers, DT.

  21. KoolKell Says:

    MistaTheGuru Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    And you have a real eye for beauty as we all saw the link with a pic of your wife!
    ————————–
    Brien too? Are you Brien?

  22. M Lonetree Says:

    Jlofty,

    O Brasil, Chile, Argentina, Peru, Espana, Italia are amazing – India (believe it or not if you are allowed into homes is mindboggling)- Sweden and Singapore sure, – but there in that tiny Himalayan country of Nepal reside women to take your breath away. (only wish that I have walked also thru Bhutan as I believe it would be even more lovely of the female aspect.)
    Amen

  23. KoolKell Says:

    MistaTheGuru Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    And you have a real eye for beauty as we all saw the link with a pic of your wife!
    ————————————

    My wife is a beauty, are you talking about the picture of her on Safari in Tanzania?

  24. KoolKell Says:

    It’s not easy getting into Bhutan, have to go with a tour group.

    It’s on my bucket list. But not for the women, I don’t believe that part.

  25. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I wanna see wat ur wife looks like

  26. MistaTheGuru Says:

    Retarded mope why are you calling me Brien?

  27. KoolKell Says:

    I had my Realtor website associated with my Handle last year.

    But the Stalkers, like Brien, Boob, BrownStains, Richochet, forced me to take it down.

  28. MistaTheGuru Says:

    Yeah I forced you to take it down.
    LMFAO

  29. hwnrdr Says:

    I hope to God that they are only kidding about not watching Tebow and over confident that Orton will start…

  30. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains blames me for his problems.

  31. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    27.KoolKell Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    I had my Realtor website associated with my Handle last year.

    But the Stalkers, like Brien, Boob, BrownStains, Richochet, forced me to take it down.

    ********************

    Were you really that stupid?

  32. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I still wanna see your wife….Dont hold out on me Kell

  33. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The way Orton has played the last two weeks, I think Tebow would give them the best chance to win.

    Seriously, I think in his last two games, Orton has completed less than 40% of his passes, for like 130 yards a game and has 0 TD’s and 6 turnovers.

  34. MistaTheGuru Says:

    Be careful what you wish for you might get it!
    _____

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    I still wanna see your wife….Dont hold out on me Kell

  35. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Goooo ‘9errrss!!1

    and I almost barfed.. but hey, they gotta win…

  36. M Lonetree Says:

    Dirtiest Raccoon,

    I assume that you had no idea about your cousin’s whereabouts, but a family of raccoons entered a pet door and attacked a woman and her two dogs in Alameda last night. Was it KK they were after? Or was it that they had nothing better to do?

  37. J Hill Says:

    I don’t see an issue with Kell posting his realtor website trying to drum up some business. If you’re out there like that with a website, flyers, and other advertising tricks, you probably don’t care too much about being anonymous.

  38. Nnamdi21 Says:

    20. Re do picks?

    So what?

    If I’d been born Brad Pitt I’d be schtuping Angie Jolie right now…

  39. dbaz09 Says:

    Draft Re-Do shows four Raider picks in the first round. Pretty impressive. Hopefully this is a trend.

  40. JLofty Says:

    17, 22: I am sure your right!

  41. Nnamdi21 Says:

    I like Huff but he is playing contract year. I’ve always expected more from him though.

    Playing single high can’t account for all of his low stats.

    Branch have to say is a dissapointment.

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch

  42. MistaTheGuru Says:

    We wouldnt be pulling for the 9ers if that toolbag SeaPerch didn’t blow that game in Az.

  43. MistaTheGuru Says:

    How about that prediction B Campbell would be a starter this year. How did that turn out for you?
    _____

    # J Hill Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    I don’t see an issue with Kell posting his realtor website trying to drum up some business. If you’re out there like that with a website, flyers, and other advertising tricks, you probably don’t care too much about being anonymous.

  44. djohnnyg Says:

    The coaches refuse to acknowledge DHB CANNOT CATCH. At least show film of the ball going right through his hands so he himself can see how much he sucks, but they’d rather hide their face in the sand and pretend he’s actually worth something more than just a “decoy”. Maclin and Crabtree are light years ahead of DHB and the Raiders passed on both to get this hapless lamer.

    Guess what? Other teams see how bad he is. Denver doesn’t even have to cover the guy if they idn’t want to. He can’t catch PERIOD! Something a WR should be able to do.

  45. Plunketthead Says:

    If I’d been born Brad Pitt, I would be sick and tired of Jolie’s crap

  46. GoodOle00 Says:

    I wouldn’t mind riding on Jolie either but do people always post their spam sites on here or just Nnamdi?

  47. Raider O Says:

    The NFL Draft do over has 4 Raiders in the 1st RD:
    Houston
    McClain
    Ford
    Veldheer

    Great draft.
    BTW: I was right about Blount. I think Vegas wanted him too. That kid with DMC would have took us to another level.
    M Bush is a great back too, so I’m happy.

  48. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jolie does have boney hands and btw GoodOle its not my site just one I think is good and informative.

    Go to it don’t. You probably haven’t even been to it.

  49. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    ANY1 GETTIN MARRIED HIT ME UP…IM DOING MY 1ST 5 WEDDINGS FOR FREE…..>>>>>NEWLY ORDAINED MINISTER

  50. djohnnyg Says:

    So our approach has been to go after this Denver game like nothing before and let it rip. That can be our only thought process right now. ‘’

    -Tom Cable
    —-

    Yes. According to Tom Cable the Raiders are really gonna try this time.

    It’s the “new” approach.

  51. GoodOle00 Says:

    So trying to generate hits for your site huh?

  52. KoolKell Says:

    DirteeRaccoon Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    27.KoolKell Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    I had my Realtor website associated with my Handle last year.

    But the Stalkers, like Brien, Boob, BrownStains, Richochet, forced me to take it down.

    ********************

    Were you really that stupid?
    ————————————-
    That’s exactly what Doofus Boob said, after he’d called my office 50 times.

    Is that you, Boob?

  53. Nnamdi21 Says:

    GoodOle00 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
    So trying to generate hits for your site huh?

    ===================

    lol! what evah…

  54. MistaTheGuru Says:

    KK says I blame him for my problems which is false and untrue but then he blames me for removing his link…lmao

    Not much of a retard at all KK!

  55. J Hill Says:

    How about that prediction B Campbell would be a starter this year. How did that turn out for you?

    ——————————————————

    Didn’t think Cable was dumb enough to roll with the one guy on the Oline EVERYONE realizes sucks arsse.

    Are you telling me you are a Carlisle fan?

  56. J Hill Says:

    The coaches refuse to acknowledge DHB CANNOT CATCH.

    ——————————————————-

    Or that Carlisle can’t block anyone.

  57. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Im going to start two defensive players…

    WAS London Fletcher (LB) @DAL
    NE Jerod Mayo (LB) vs GB
    PIT Lawrence Timmons vs NYJ

    who would you start?

  58. YoungAmerican Says:

    I wanted Blount, too. I was disappointed when the Raiders didn’t pick him up, especially when he became a UDFA. Luckily McFadden and Bush are playing well this season.

  59. KoolKell Says:

    BrownStains

    Don’t blame me for your economic woes, ok?

    Blame George W. Bush!

  60. La Milicia Negra Says:

    #

    # Plunketthead Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:11 pm

    If I’d been born Brad Pitt, I would be sick and tired of Jolie’s crap
    ________________________________________________________

    Bwahahha great post.. LOL well I guess you dont even have to be Brad Pitt to be tired of her cr4p… I know I am, and im pretty sure I aint no Brad Pitt =)LOL

  61. MistaTheGuru Says:

    KKKell,
    I dont have economic woes but if I did should I blame a guy thats been out of office for 2 years?

    Are you that retarded?

  62. hwnrdr Says:

    Its supposed to storm worse than the KC game on Sunday…so it should be mainly a run game, in remembrance of our last division game of 2002 (against KC)…hopefully…the fans won’t get wet for nothing! I like the mentality that they have though…win or go home!

  63. MistaTheGuru Says:

    KKKell, how long have you been in this state of depression?

  64. KoolKell Says:

    MistaTheGuru Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    KKKell,
    I dont have economic woes but if I did should I blame a guy thats been out of office for 2 years?

    Are you that retarded?
    ————————-
    I heard you were an unemployed welder, living in a trailer park?

  65. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Im almost sure I will go to the Final in the FFLeague..

    I love my team..

    QB Jon Kitna (QB – DAL)
    WR Wes Welker (WR – NE)
    WR Eddie Royal WR – DEN)
    RB Arian Foster (RB – HOU)
    TE Benjamin Foster (TE – CLE)
    WRT Chris Johnson (RB – TEN)
    WRT Jacoby Ford (WR – OAK)
    BN Joel Dreesen (TE – HOU)
    BN James Jones (WR – GB)
    BN Brandon Tate (WR – NE)
    BN Tony Romo (QB – DAL)
    BN TJ Houshmandzadeh (WR -BAL)

    K Josh Scobee (K – JAX)
    BN Nick Folk (K – NYJ)

    DEF ARIZONA

    D Jarod Mayo (LB – NE)
    D London Fletcher (LB – WAS)
    D Lawrence Timmons (LB – PIT)

  66. Chris in NY Says:

    Niners will win and we will control our destiny by kickoff Sunday. And yes, I just saw Jackson score.

  67. Guy Says:

    Dam.. VJ…. Old Al needs to pay him next year

  68. La Milicia Negra Says:

    cr4p that was fast..

    come on 9′er D

    I guess thats why we dont like them?

  69. DT42 Says:

    look at how many draft picks are in the first round for the CNN/SI 1st round redux.

    McClain
    Houston
    Ford
    Veldheer

    I think that last years draft may be one of the best Raider drafts ever.

  70. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Even the t.v. weather dudes down here are saying NOR-CAL is going to get hammered this weekend…

    Batten down the hatches….

  71. MistaTheGuru Says:

    KKKell I heard you’re a 60yr old man on a blog 18hrs a day married to a butt ugly white woman broke as hell.

  72. KoolKell Says:

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Even the t.v. weather dudes down here are saying NOR-CAL is going to get hammered this weekend…
    ———————————
    Great quittin weather, I’m afraid.

  73. KoolKell Says:

    MistaTheGuru Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    KKKell I heard you’re a 60yr old man on a blog 18hrs a day married to a butt ugly white woman broke as hell.
    ——————————–
    My wife is beautiful, I’m 58, and I’ve beeeeen to Copenhagen and Play del Carmen this year, you?

  74. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Kell I wanna see this white woman every1 is talkin about….

  75. MistaTheGuru Says:

    lol @ the Copenhagen reference 10000000000 times a week.

  76. MistaTheGuru Says:

    She is sooooooooooooooooooooo purty!
    _____

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Kell I wanna see this white woman every1 is talkin about….

  77. KoolKell Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:39 pm

    Kell I wanna see this white woman every1 is talkin about….
    ————————————
    Not everybody, only the stalkers.

  78. MistaTheGuru Says:

    KKKell refers to people that make sport of him stalkers.

    lol

  79. KoolKell Says:

    MistaTheGuru Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 5:40 pm

    lol @ the Copenhagen reference 10000000000 times a week.
    ————————————-
    Hehe, I know it get’s to trailer trash like yourself.

  80. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    So we picking up Vincent Jackson next year or what?

  81. MistaTheGuru Says:

    KKKell,
    Pres purp lips said he wouldn’t allow any earmarks or pork barrell spending in the campaign, what happened to that?

    mope & change

  82. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Niners Lost

  83. RaiderRetribution Says:

    the one injury report that stood out to me the most?

  84. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Mr. Boller’s quad injury.

  85. DaRayduh Says:

    Evening Gentlemen, Lets’ hope for a STD loss. Pretty confident about that, hope is alive. But seeing STD score knocks a little reality back at ya.

    That ghost from AZ is back, btw……..

  86. RaiderRetribution Says:

    if Kyle is inactive due to injury, that means of course we are only one play away from…

  87. RaiderRetribution Says:

    J.T. the Brick quarterbacking the Oakland Raiders

  88. RaiderRetribution Says:

    whew thankfully I was wrong, it will be Mr. J.T. Sullivan as our back up qb.

  89. DaRayduh Says:

    Hey Mystique One Suppah Villan-

    You around?

  90. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I’d rather have J.T. The Brick back there instead of Sullivan

  91. Raider75 Says:

    GO NINERS!!!!!!!!!!

  92. NoPassingZone Says:

    Just seeing Vincent Jackson make that catch…hard not to imagine adding him as the 2nd to final piece of the young offensive juggernaut we’re building here.

    Hard to imagine Gruden/Cowher passing these weapons up:

    WRs – V. Jackson, Murphy, Ford
    TEs – Miller, Meyers
    RBs – DMAC, Bush, Reece
    QB – Just an average game manager…Boller? Palmer? Leinart? Brennan? (Campbell below average and has had time to mature – we’ve seen what he has to offer)

    If we can replace two linemen (one from our team and one free agency or draft) we are looking DANGEROUS!!

    Even though we know coaches are leery at working with Big Al, he’s what, 81 next year? He’s already said he wants to give some of the responsibility away…this is a good young team…I think its a great opportunity for a blue chip coach. Top of my list: Gruden, Cowher, Harbaugh…who else?

    I think its absolutely key to not sign all our major players whose contracts are up this year. We are close… Do not want to lose Bush…need 2 quality backs in this league!

  93. NoPassingZone Says:

    Correction:
    I think its ABSOLUTELY KEY TO SIGN ALL our major players whose contracts are up this year. We are close… Do not want to lose Bush…need 2 quality backs in this league!

  94. YoungAmerican Says:

    Al Davis will not hire Cowher or Gruden. Those guys will go coach a team where they have control over the staff and roster.

  95. inonewordraider Says:

    first down niners!

  96. inonewordraider Says:

    QB – Just an average game manager…Boller? Palmer? Leinart? Brennan? (Campbell below average and has had time to mature – we’ve seen what he has to offer)

    You’d take those guys over Campbell? You can’t be serious

  97. inonewordraider Says:

    TD NINERS!

  98. YoungAmerican Says:

    Boller and Leinart over Campbell is laughable. Campbell isn’t great by any means, but he’s certainly better than those guys. Hell, Boller couldn’t even get through two pass attempts without throwing a pick.

  99. DaRayduh Says:

    94.YoungAmerican Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
    Al Davis will not hire Cowher or Gruden. Those guys will go coach a team where they have control over the staff and roster.

    —————-

    Davis pays minimum salary for the HC job, and is more prone to giving upstart asst. coaches a first time HC position. Nothing wrong with that other than a pure gamble. A proven coach would be great, just don’t see it.

    Besides, we have a veteran coach now.

  100. MistaTheGuru Says:

    Only Raider fans come down on a backup QB who didnt take any snaps with the first unit in practice and hasn’t played a real game in 2 years.

    Complete derelicts!

  101. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Your out of ur mind if you think Gruden or Cowher will coach this team and if you honestly think that Boller/Leinart/Brennan are better than Campbell then your out of your mind and should get some rest and start fresh 2morrow

  102. inonewordraider Says:

    SH!T TD REVERSED!

  103. YoungAmerican Says:

    There’s a very good reason Boller hasn’t played in a real game in two years.

  104. Guy Says:

    If you think Campbell is bad, Boller has should make you throw up when you think of him.

  105. inonewordraider Says:

    FUC#

  106. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    The Niners are a Joke…..

  107. J Hill Says:

    How can you not run a QB sneak right there?

    Terrible!

  108. DaRayduh Says:

    107.J Hill Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
    How can you not run a QB sneak right there?

    Terrible!

    ———-

    Cuz your the niners?

  109. inonewordraider Says:

    WOW not a good start

  110. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I feel like the Niners are doing this to try and screw us out of the Playoffs

  111. DaRayduh Says:

    Mike needs to pull a pimp-hand.

  112. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Alex Smith one of the most athletic QB’s in the league, yet can’t get included in the list of the “Wave of future” guys that Mistic1 loves to talk about.

  113. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Blount reminds me of christian okoye. A big fast power back that stands staright up when he runs, i give four or five years, after that he will be beat to hell, The nigerian nightmare reincarnate!

  114. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Mike is worst than Cable

  115. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Oooopsss……..got the DVR a little behind actual time.

    Dammit!!!

  116. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:22 pm

    Alex Smith one of the most athletic QB’s in the league, yet can’t get included in the list of the “Wave of future” guys that Mistic1 loves to talk about.
    ==========================================================
    include alex smith on the wave good bye list

  117. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Alex Smith will be signed here next year

  118. DaRayduh Says:

    Hey Mystique, Did you see my post for you a few days ago? If you didn’t, I can go get it. It’s all good.

  119. Just Fire Baby Says:

    include alex smith on the wave good bye list

    *************************

    But not Troy Smith right?

  120. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Troy Smith is just as weak as Alex Smith

  121. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # DaRayduh Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:25 pm

    Hey Mystique, Did you see my post for you a few days ago? If you didn’t, I can go get it. It’s all good.
    ==========================================================

    Nope, is it some bull ish?

  122. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    T.smith has a winning record and more tds than ints. he is not as bad as that other smith

  123. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Troy Smith also has more times being waived by NFL teams.

  124. inonewordraider Says:

    Alex Smith about to shock the world

  125. DaRayduh Says:

    No Mystique 1, not at all. Will go get it for you. Look for it.

  126. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Troy Smith is a bum and so is Alex Smith…

  127. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    JFB,

    you want to be on your mythical “wave of the future list”?

    alex smith might as well be granny smith, he is on “waived in the future” list

  128. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:36 pm

    Troy Smith is a bum and so is Alex Smith…
    ===========================================================

    a bum harsh

  129. DaRayduh Says:

    Al was right, gradkowski stinks and should have never seen the field while jc was healthy. cable should be glad he has Davis to save him from his own waffling and embarrassing us fruther.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Ok Mystique 1 Supah Villan-

    That’s pretty funny, but I’m gonna try and level the playing field here without going in to career stats and stuff. Just my take on the JC vs Grad wheel.

    JC had the job game 1 ve Tenn. Was awful. Flat-out -brutal.

    Game 2, come half time, Cable pushes the panic button,
    probabaly a few other things too, Hue pushes the panic button, Cable is sweatin thinkin he may get a pink slip, Hue may be thinkin they got JRII, who knows, so they make the switch. You know the results.

    AZ, say all you want about the time out at the goal line, wasn’t a good move, but Jani gets the loss. Alba could have been the QB that day,
    http://img7.pimp-my-profile.com/i89/4/4/10/bn_9d16da1950.png
    Jani blew it.

    Houston, a 1 score loss.

    STD, A marvelous day for the D and special teams, and yes, very good drives by JC at the end.

    0-fer niner game, panic time again.

    Denver was a result of some heart attack serious corn hole reaming from the boss, heard through out Raiderdom. Campbell had the luxury of a pissed off defense, sts’ and a very quick lead. Found his comfort zone.

    Hawks, Campbell had the support a fired up defense, and himself played ok.

    Now, here is where Cable the mouth piece as opposed to Cable the coach made a mistake. All along he had been saying Grad was going to be the starter once healthy. What he should have said was ‘I have two quarterbacks who will battle it out in practice like two hungry wolves over one piece of meat’. Campbell made the mistake of taking it personal, and rightly so, but this league is for tougher guys.

    KC, shined in the last minute of the game, and Ford saved his bacon too.

    No excuses for the Pitt loss. He’s a pro. Grad came in, to little to late, but at least he had some spunk.

    Miami, well, Grad had his shot and did not make the most of it.

    Another outbreak of anger rocks Raiderdom, and I won’t go into the details of the eruption as I have told you before what took place, and Jason has a good game vs STD.

    Last Sunday Cable said it best about JC, but the lack of the bite and crunch time overshadows his game management skills.

    So between you and me, JC looked uncomfortable to say the least at the beginning of the season. He can be up or down like this team can, but he looked pretty good Sunday, still playing it safe, but none the less, looked good, til the last 2 minutes. That’s when you need a take charge QB. In Grads defense, he showed rythum, tempo, ability to scramble, take charge and seemed to step up the rest of the team. Too bad he is not blessed with the physical attributes JC has.

    I’ve never bagged on JC, just thought he was a bust like every qb we’ve had since Gannon. But I will give him credit where credits due, and he is our qb now, and he needs to crap or get off the pot. Hopefully, he’ll see the last three games as his time to make a statement. And if late in this season is indicative of Campells progression, then he could be pretty good.

    Saying Grad should have never seen the field is a stretch, but Campbell has the ball now and lets hope he can handle it.

    Raiders 51
    Denver 3

  130. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Jus like Gradkowski is…Race has nothin to do with it….. Just none of them should be Starters…

  131. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Alex Smith is a FA, hitting the FA market is a lot different than being a 3rd stringer for a few years and being waived.

    Someone will sign Alex Smith next season, and probably start him, while Troy Smith will be battling it out with the Bruce Gradkowski’s of the world, trying to find a crappy team that maybe he has a crappy enough starter so he can maybe steal 3-4 starts a season.

  132. Raider Ray Says:

    Joe Theismann is a bum.

  133. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    DaRayduh,

    lets hope they keep hu jack and campbell together one more season. If they suck at the end of next year, can them. I think they are getting a rhythm and learning one another and growing together. a loss sunday would be a disaster!

  134. aig-raiders Says:

    Dang it,

    I took 3 days off this site and you guys still talking about JC. Oh that’s right, he still stucks. lol

    Dang Niners SUCK!!!!

  135. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    We should keep Campbell and Hue 1 more year and draft Colin Kaepernick

  136. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If Jason Campbell loses to Tim Tebow, this place will not hear the end of it.

    I think he should win, but not sure what type of mudder Campbell is. He was not all that impressive in the KC game, but made the plays down the stretch to win, so hopefully we can do so again.

  137. aig-raiders Says:

    Matt Leinart or Alex Smith will be a Raider next year…at least for camp. AD loves former 1st rounders.

  138. Raider Ray Says:

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    Dang it,

    I took 3 days off this site and you guys still talking about JC. Oh that’s right, he still stucks. lol

    Dang Niners SUCK!!!!
    ——————————
    We were also talking about how black people don’t function well in cold weather, and large breasted women.

  139. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Raider Ray U 4got about Kwanzaa

  140. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    -
    If Jason Campbell loses to Tim Tebow, this place will not hear the end of it.
    ———————————-
    You’ll make sure of it, along with all the racial innuendos you can come up with.

  141. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Kell so whats up with that picture of your hot wife

  142. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    lmao if campbell loses to tebow im gonna get killed in here.

  143. Raider Ray Says:

    49ers suck ass!

  144. KoolKell Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:48 pm

    Kell so whats up with that picture of your hot wife
    ——————————–
    Go ask your Butt-Buddy, Brien for it. If I post it, it gives me less leverage with the courts.

  145. Raider Ray Says:

    If Campbell loses to Tebow, I will kill myself.

  146. hwnrdr Says:

    Wow…we need VJax next year…

  147. Raider75 Says:

    well, won’t be getting any help from the Niners.

    How did Oakland lose to San Fran?

  148. aig-raiders Says:

    It will suck to have Tebow beats us. Gonna be at the game Sunday and I sure hope we kick his a$$. Would love to see him as a Raiduh though. hahahahhaa

  149. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I dont know any1 with the name Brien but if he has the picture im sure I can find him

  150. aig-raiders Says:

    Kell has a hotwife? What’s his name?

  151. hwnrdr Says:

    Where you going to be AIG?

  152. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Im not sure he wont tell me… Whats her name Kell I can google her LOL

  153. DaRayduh Says:

    133.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
    DaRayduh,

    lets hope they keep hu jack and campbell together one more season. If they suck at the end of next year, can them. I think they are getting a rhythm and learning one another and growing together. a loss sunday would be a disaster!

    —————-

    I’m for that too, but keep Cable too. If they got the rythm we’ll know early. There are enough weapons and talent that there will be no excuses. If they suck at the end of next year, can them and Cable too. Like I said, crap or get off the pot.

    I don’t even want to think about a loss Sunday. Wouldn’t be a disaster, it would be a beyond disaster. Can’t fathom that.

  154. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    im still gonna talk my normal ish when he kills the donkeys, and give an in depth play by play beak down.

    JFB LOVES WHEN I DO THAT

  155. hwnrdr Says:

    Alex Smith sacked! Oh well….lets hope Cinci has a break out game next week!

  156. KoolKell Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:53 pm

    Im not sure he wont tell me… Whats her name Kell I can google her LOL
    ———————————–
    Go ask your Butt-Buddy Brien the Wannanabe

  157. aig-raiders Says:

    Somewhere in Section 145. Dont know the exact seats because Thomas Howard’s PR mgr wont tell me. Just told me to go pick it up. bought it through his foundation as part of the pre-game on-field package. I sure hope they dont turn me down when I show up for tix. lol

    You gonna be there?

  158. Chris in NY Says:

    The chargers are not even good. These guys are out there acting like hot sh!t, but really they suck.

  159. Raider Ray Says:

    Singletary has a better W/L record than Cable. LOL

  160. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I dont know ne1 named Brien….. Kell why do you have to be so mean LOL

  161. DaRayduh Says:

    148.aig-raiders Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    It will suck to have Tebow beats us. Gonna be at the game Sunday and I sure hope we kick his a$$. Would love to see him as a Raiduh though. hahahahhaa

    —————-

    Tebow can yak all he wants about not being afraid of Oakland, pre-game won’t bother him, but when he walks out at game time he’ll have to go back thru the tunnell to change his soiled pants.

  162. hwnrdr Says:

    Yup, in 130…what about tailgating festivities?

  163. Chris in NY Says:

    Start Troy smith in the second half.

  164. aig-raiders Says:

    Tebow is far from ready but we never know which Raiders show up. Damn Jeckyl and Hyde team.

  165. KoolKell Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    I dont know ne1 named Brien….. Kell why do you have to be so mean LOL
    ——————————–
    Go ask your Butt-Buddy, Brien

  166. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    PEACE FELLAS

  167. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Who is Brien?????

  168. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Man why can’t defenders catch?

    During the great Bruce debates, when Bruce would flutter a handful of ducks that defenders would drop weekly, I always excused it by saying these defensive players drop these picks every week, every game.

    We just saw it a few minutes ago on the Rivers drop.

    Just amazing how awful these dudes are at catching. If I were a DC, these guys would get some work on the Juggs machine.

  169. KoolKell Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:57 pm

    Who is Brien?????
    —————————
    Your Butt-Buddy.

  170. DaRayduh Says:

    154.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
    im still gonna talk my normal ish when he kills the donkeys, and give an in depth play by play beak down.

    JFB LOVES WHEN I DO THAT

    ————

    Lookin forward to it!

  171. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I dont have a Butt Buddy…..If ne1 is my Butt Buddy I thought it would be you….Arent we best friends Kell

  172. hwnrdr Says:

    Half time and it doesn’t look promising for SF…unless someone breathes a miracle on the 9ers…but how in the world does SD get 3 home games in a row?

  173. KoolKell Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Arent we best friends Kell
    —————————-
    Boy, you’re more stupid than I thought.

  174. aig-raiders Says:

    Yo Hwndr,

    here is my iteniary on Sunday.

    Need to be at the parking lot at 9:15 to be part of the On-Field group.

    Around 10, taking bart down to Rickey’s Sports bar and take some pix.

    Head back over around 11:30 and do some tailgating with some friends I am meeting there. You gonna tailgate? Where at? .

  175. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Kell I thought we could have a sleepover and visit Copehagen 2gether….Run around in footy Pajamas and watch shark week..Stay up all nite long and tell ghost stories…

  176. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Boy those two first round picks on the O-line are sure doing wonders for that 49ers offense.

    They are making about as much of an impact as DHB.

  177. KoolKell Says:

    The Stadium will be half empty, and the parking lot, too.

    Brien & Boob will be selling weed in A-lot.

  178. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sounds like a blast AIG!!

    Enjoy yourself.

  179. hwnrdr Says:

    We are always in lot d in front of Oracle North Entrance. We’re probably be about 6- 10 rows back! We usually clean up a little after 12 and walk in about 12:30…

  180. aig-raiders Says:

    JFB,

    LB’s and DB’s arent WR’s and TE’s cuz they can’t catch. You fight it when the ball comes at you. I can personally relate to DHB’s woes.

    Seattle aiport is off the hook. Good to be back on this side of the country. People are alot slimmer here.

  181. aig-raiders Says:

    Thanks JFB…looking forward to it. You dont realize how much you took things for granted until you are not close to the Raiduhs anymore.

    Flew in to SJ from memphis on Tue, flew up to Sea at 7am Wed for a quick bus meeting, stuck in 5 hours traffic in rain to Portland, back to Sea now and waiting to go to San Jose. My wife better be off the rag. I need some lovin’. lol

  182. KoolKell Says:

    If you go to Rickey’s don’t order a call drink, you’ll get the well, anyway.

  183. Just Fire Baby Says:

    SeaTac huh?

    Spent many a time there.

  184. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    SeaTac huh?

    Spent many a time there.
    —————————
    WoW!!!!!!!!!

  185. Raider75 Says:

    wow…

  186. A.B. Paine III Says:

    This is how I imagine Norco Bob looking:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/69066045@N00/1435480289/

    If that isn’t him, it should be.

  187. hwnrdr Says:

    2 TDs called back…oh well…

  188. aig-raiders Says:

    Hwndr,

    I’ll come looking for your tailgate. You see a 6ft tall stocky Asian Dude in your area you know its me. I should have my blank black #34 jersey on. Gonna tweet MM34 to come out and meet with us for the onfield thing. Would love to get his autograph for my jersey. Supposedly thomas Howard brings players out to meet the fans for the on field thing.

  189. KoolKell Says:

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    This is how I imagine Norco Bob looking:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/69066045@N00/1435480289/

    If that isn’t him, it should be.
    ——————————
    Dead Ringer!!!!!!!!!!!!

  190. aig-raiders Says:

    Seatac!

    I dont know how my brother and friends can handle travelling for bus so often. This schytt makes me dizzy.

  191. A.B. Paine III Says:

    MR, is this you:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/theraidercast/1435481871/in/photostream/

  192. hwnrdr Says:

    Why is Alex Smith still in there…I guess live and die with Alex Smith…Mike Singletary…

  193. hwnrdr Says:

    Sounds good AIG…a blank 34, huh? Shouldn’t be too hard to spot…

  194. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My brother was stationed in Bremerton, so went up there maybe a dozen times.

  195. Just Fire Baby Says:

    A.B. Paine III Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    This is how I imagine Norco Bob looking:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/69066045@N00/1435480289/

    ********************************

    Dude in the back is sporting a Bruce jersey!!!

  196. aig-raiders Says:

    yes sir. I dont like wearing another guy’s last name on my jersey. The raiders dont retire numbers anyway. I may make an exception for a Tatum Jersey I am customizing now.

  197. aig-raiders Says:

    Damn, should have been 14-10 Niners. They suck!!!!!

  198. aig-raiders Says:

    Anyone want to buy a White #8 authentic rbk blank nameplate jersey? Come on Mystic. Time to support Jason Campbell? lol

  199. hwnrdr Says:

    I hear ya…

  200. A.B. Paine III Says:

    JFB, I think the guy is wearing a Kerry Collins jersey. The pictures are from a few years ago.

  201. Norco Bob Says:

    Old man kell is a sad, pathetic, bankrupt old fool,…you mother F`rs want to see what I look like?…come to A lot this sunday and I will find you,…I can promise you this,…MR,..and old man Kell do not want to meet me,…because it would take me 30 seconds to go through them both,…it would be fast, violent, and ugly,…and if I go to prison for it Im fine with that,..but thats what going to happen if I ever meet either one of them. Michael, if you want me to come to your office to settle things in the parking lot just say so, and I will be there.

  202. aig-raiders Says:

    Gotta get on the airplane. You guys see a blank 34 say hi, even the guys I dont agree with. It’s all good. Later.

  203. Lynn from Snot Says:

    the Zebras must have taken the chargers.

  204. A.B. Paine III Says:

    This game is the one that gets Singletary fired.

  205. Norco Bob Says:

    All you other punks,..I will meet any of you,…especially Vegas,..that punk is on my list,…I will enjoy caving his head in…and I wont break a sweat doing it….any of you,..and MR,..I can locate you with 2 phone calls, so watch your mouth.

  206. Lynn from Snot Says:

    turn out the lights the party’s over

  207. Norco Bob Says:

    Shut up Paine you total ffag.

  208. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Norco, I will make you cry if you ever try any sh*t with me. You are nothing but a crack head loser. My grandmother could take you out.

  209. Norco Bob Says:

    Time and place Paine,..time and place,..you tell me,..and Im there.

  210. Norco Bob Says:

    MR is on my list,…Im going to find him,…he knows it too,…just a matter of time…Im going to enjoy it…his IP address is easily gotten, then hes a phone call away,…I will get my moneys worth.

  211. Just Fire Baby Says:

    On the list huh??

    LMAO, not losing much sleep over it, but I’m sure you will waste plenty of hours typing about it.

  212. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Norco, meet me in the McDonald’s parking lot at Milwaukee and Kedzie in Chicago. I will bring the Paine!

  213. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh well…bye bye SF…

  214. Norco Bob Says:

    I think youre out here Paine,..and Im close to finding out,..interns at the cctimes are easy to bribe….cya soon mother f`r.

  215. olinesux Says:

    pg13…. darn whiners cant do anything right….

  216. Norco Bob Says:

    Im very close to finding MR,…aand it will be ugly….Michael,…I know where you are right this minute,…youre times coming soon.

  217. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bob…..you can meet me this weekend……I will be at the New Mexico Bowl…..watching the game while losers around the country watch from their coach…will have booze and pot…….RV lot…come say it to my face…..all good……I’m real….

  218. Norco Bob Says:

    No cop will be able to help you either Michael,…even though youre trying to get their help…too late for that.

  219. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    So Violent Tonight

  220. BigTed707 Says:

    This is why I hate the ‘9ers!

  221. Norco Bob Says:

    Vegas,..come to a game here,..free ticket,…just get your candy aSS out here,..if that ugly fat pig warden lets you.

  222. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Bob hook me up with a pic of kells wife

  223. Norco Bob Says:

    I promise you all this,..I will find MR,…its just a matter of time,..we know where Michael is sitting right now,…and he knows it,..thats why hes already called the cops,..too late for that mother f`r.

  224. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Norco Bob Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    No cop will be able to help you either Michael,…even though youre trying to get their help…too late for that.
    ——————————————–
    I think this qualifies as cyber bullying/stalking. I would hate to see the police come to your house Bob and find all your drugs.

  225. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I was at the AZ game, when you were talking up going, than I mentioned I would be there, buy you a drink, you disappeared and never mentioned it again.

    I’m real.

  226. Dhidee99 Says:

    if you want me to come to your office to settle things in the parking lot just say so, and I will be there.
    _____________________________________________
    7776 Oakport DR Oakland, CA 94601 I take Lunch At 1130 Every Day Mon-Fri. I Get off At 3pm I where a Blue Uniform With A silver And Black Backpak I Park in Front Its A Harley Eletra Glide Bike Is Also Silver And Black With Skulls Ask For Donald I’ll Come Out And Beat Your ASS!

  227. Norco Bob Says:

    Kells wife is an ugly white dude that had a sex change operation,..but Im past that,..I have plans for old kell,..and he knows it…but cannot stop it.

  228. Norco Bob Says:

    Paine, you dfon t fool anyone, we know who you are,….and you are real close to where I live,…cya soon.

  229. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Hahahaha DHIDE99…….I LOVE THIS

  230. Norco Bob Says:

    Diheedee,..get your punk asss to A lot this sunday,..we will settle things.

  231. Norco Bob Says:

    Any of you mother f`rs,…A lot this sunday,..bring it on…lets settle everything this sunday.

  232. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Ok Norco, I will see you soon. We can have tea and cookies. Do you like Earl Grey?

  233. Norco Bob Says:

    But I can promise you one thing,..MR will be found,..and real soon,….no stopping it now….Michael,…be careful, because I know where you are right this minute.

  234. Norco Bob Says:

    MR,…be as cute as you want,..but Im closing in,..sooner then you think.

  235. YoungAmerican Says:

    Good lord, this place is filled with psychos.

  236. A.B. Paine III Says:

    Norco, are you ok? I’m concerned about you. I think you need to get some help. Have you tried AA?

  237. Norco Bob Says:

    Iv always said, some things are worth going to prison for,…I will get my moneys worth.

  238. La Milicia Negra Says:

    please remind me why I watch this game?

    normally I hate the commercial breaks, but I really long for’em while the game is going…

  239. BigTed707 Says:

    Get Alex Smith Outta’ There!
    Jesustary looks like a blind-man out there wearing his sunglasses at night.

  240. Norco Bob Says:

    MR,…your alias`s have caught up to you,..see you soon,..real soon.

  241. hwnrdr Says:

    Aren’t we all fans of the same team? So violent tonight…hope the team comes out with the same intensity and violence on Sunday! No disrespect to any of you…

  242. Dhidee99 Says:

    Diheedee,..get your punk asss to A lot this sunday,..we will settle things.

    ________________________________________________
    I knew you where all Talk Dog STFU

  243. Angry Villager with Pitchfork Says:

    I hate the chargers…

  244. Norco Bob Says:

    99 youre a biitch…and you know it.

  245. hwnrdr Says:

    24-0 end of 3rd…

  246. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # Angry Villager with Pitchfork Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 7:42 pm

    I hate the chargers…
    _______________________________________________________

    so should we draft Steven Rivers?

  247. Norco Bob Says:

    Just you and me 99,…just you and me.

  248. hwnrdr Says:

    Who’s Steven Rivers? Philips younger brother?

  249. La Milicia Negra Says:

    My god, what a melt down… the game really changed after Justin Smith was ejected..

  250. hwnrdr Says:

    I missed that…why was he ejected?

  251. hwnrdr Says:

    Another VJax TD…Al? You watching?

  252. BigTed707 Says:

    lmao!

  253. GoodOle00 Says:

    9ers suck!

  254. BigTed707 Says:

    OMG – is Singletary gonna blow up? Or is he just dead inside?

    Whats going on behind the shades?

  255. BigTed707 Says:

    dead inside.

  256. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Enter Volek..!!!!

    yeah my favorite NFL QB..

  257. hwnrdr Says:

    Can you just imagine if Rivers younger brother comes to Oakland? That would actually be funny…

  258. La Milicia Negra Says:

    Week 15 Impact on the Raiders playoff chances

    Raiders vs. Broncos If Raiders win +8.08% If Broncos win -7.89%

    Rams vs. Chiefs If Rams win +5.73% If Chiefs win -5.60%

    49ers @ Chargers If 49ers win +2.62% If Chargers win -2.51%

    Week 16 Impact on the Raiders playoff chances

    Raiders vs. Colts If Raiders win +8.01% If Colts win -7.71%

    Titans @ Chiefs If Titans win +5.74% If Chiefs win -5.55%

    Bengals vs. Chargers If Bengals win +2.94% If Chargers win -2.88%

  259. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # hwnrdr Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

    Can you just imagine if Rivers younger brother comes to Oakland? That would actually be funny…
    _________________________________________________________

    if he joins the college in 2011, how long will it be before he is eligible for the Draft?

    It would be great to kick a then bit old Philip Rivers with his younger brother…

    he is 15 years old i believe, and 6foot6 nearing 6foot7, so I would try him out.. LOL

    well in the Manning case, Peyton is clearly best, but Eli still is one of the best in the league, so if he could pull an Eli I would be pleased, butter better still, if he actually would be better than Philip..

  260. Just Fire Baby Says:

    My first experience with DirectTV and snow is not going to well.

    So when it snows a little, you just lose all signals? WTF is that all about?

  261. Bauce 2 Clean Says:

    Haha so much for your guys 49er hope for help….you dont need to SF fairies for help! Now we shall win on Sunday and the Chiefs lose in STL….one game back will shall be having our own destiny controlled by us….SD is losing for sure in Cincy or Den….I have unshakeable confidence in that scenario….BAUCE!

  262. Bauce 2 Clean Says:

    We will get a drink and talk about life…..just two black men from different generation pockets having a discussion

  263. Raider75 Says:

    no help from Niners tonight.

    Go Raiders!
    Go Rams!

  264. Bauce 2 Clean Says:

    # Raider75 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 9:30 pm

    no help from Niners tonight.

    Go Raiders!
    Go Rams!
    ************************

    Niners did help out tonight….what were you watching? Now SD can feel real good going into two cold weather road games

  265. KoolKell Says:

    Breein

    Keep it real, Bree. Hopefully you’ll be another pathetic statistic. ;-)

  266. KoolKell Says:

    Oakland would be a lot better off without your kind.

  267. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders need to keep Mr. Jason Campbell as their starting QB for next season.

    Raiders need some continuity and timing in their passing game, next year our offense will explode.

    Jason has earned the starting job for next season.

    Even though I have been calling for a new head coach, we should only sign a new head coach if it is a top tier head coach:
    Billick,
    Cowher,
    Gruden,
    Jimmy Johnson,
    Parcells,
    Bob Stoops,
    Jim Harbaugh.

  268. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Jason should be our starting QB especially if we retain Hue as our offensive coordinator; it would be the firsat time in Jason’s NFL carreer that he played two consecutive seasons with the same coordinator.

    Raiders should still draft a qb, in the 3rd-5th round though:
    Locker,
    Stanzi,
    Newton in the 2nd should he fall.

  269. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders can still win the division,

    Chargers need to win two in a row on the road,

    KC still has to face us and St. Louis, possibly w/o Cassell.

    Either way I so want the Raiders to go 3-0 at home in the division, sweep both the Chargers and the Broncos and be at least 5-1 in the division, and a great shot at either 8-8 or 9-7. No matter what we leave the Patriots with a middle of the draft board 1st round pick (of course Bellichek would just soon draft out of the top ten any way).

  270. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    6-0 in the AFC west!

    I am not the biggest Cable fan, but if we do go 6-0 in the AFCW then he’s GOT to stay. Keep the team, and coaches in tact, and add to the talent..

    Vet wr

    Right tackle or gaurd which ever B. Campbell doesnt play.

    Center if a REAL upgrade.

    DE.. Is Scott gonna be the same?

    DT… is Houston a better DE or DT?

    OLB… Depth

  271. ArmChair GM Says:

    # DirteeRaccoon Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 10:50 pm

    6-0 in the AFC west!

    I am not the biggest Cable fan, but if we do go 6-0 in the AFCW then he’s GOT to stay. Keep the team, and coaches in tact, and add to the talent..

    Vet wr

    Right tackle or gaurd which ever B. Campbell doesnt play.

    Center if a REAL upgrade.

    DE.. Is Scott gonna be the same?

    DT… is Houston a better DE or DT?

    OLB… Depth
    ____________________________________________________

    Add to that a real NT. Seymour should be at defensive end…If he had been on the outside, no way Jennings breaks that outside run to the house…

  272. VanHeathen Says:

    Oh yeah coach,I watched the film again…
    don’t use the JAX game as a learning tool,
    just let them keep making enough mistakes to lose a game we should have won…
    Ironically, Cable probably cost HIMSELF a HC job,
    but at least he saved Del Rio HIS HC job…
    Hope our new HC Hue will take this team to the next level.

  273. Guy Says:

    ArmChair, its not like Shaughnessy or Houston were the DEs on that play, it was Donkey bust Jarvis Moss.

  274. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Benjamin Ijalana whats the word on this dude?

  275. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    I dont see us going for Alex Linnenkohl cause he really has no chance of playing OG for us. Seems Cable likes vesitile guys on the 53.

  276. VanHeathen Says:

    How about a new place kicker?
    One that actually trains like a Pro Athlete and can make a tackle on a Kick return?
    Instead of rolling towards him and flailing an arm like an Old Lady trying to flag down a cab…
    Overweight, overpaid and under trained, he’s got to go!

  277. Guy Says:

    How is Janikowski a pro bowler this year when last year was probably his best year? At the same time, Mcfadden isn’t even in the top rb votes. The pro bowl is a joke.

  278. VanHeathen Says:

    Which pro Bowl did be make?
    The Chips or the Dip?
    Probably both…
    Kid has been a mess since he got here!

  279. aig-raiders Says:

    274.Guy Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
    ArmChair, its not like Shaughnessy or Houston were the DEs on that play, it was Donkey bust Jarvis Moss.

    ————————-

    I thought I saw an idiot 94 on that play. Was that Moss?

  280. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Tommy Kelly is playing well. I am happy with what he has done. Playing next to Seymore, it is either get the job done, or I will do it for you, and eat your lunch!

    If Seymore stays, do we really need a new starter @ DT? It is always the goal to have one good BIG HEAVY back up DT, and a fast agile penatrator DT as depth. We have big John Henderson as the Heavy, is he staying? Who is the penatrator?

  281. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    HHmmmm Desmond Bryant not bad for a back up, but could be better. Maybe we need an extra body committed to the DT we only have 4. Witch seems fair.

    I guess a big question that needs to be answered is does Des Bryany have what it takes PHY, and MENT, to be a heavely used DT. Run d, and pass D / penhertader.

    Jarvis Moss looks to be a great back up. He can swing from Lde, RDE, OLB. and the dude has the nutts to play MLB.

    Matt Shaughnessy will be our fulltime starter soon, is Scot worht sticking with on the other side? ACL is scary. We are still missing that pure SPEED pass rusher @ DE Would been nice to have keept Cris Clemmons.

  282. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    On passing downs would it make sense to move Lamarr Houston to DT and Richard Seymour to DE? With ShoNasty and Tommy Kelly rounding out the line?

  283. jmcclain Says:

    People in here honestly saying keep Campbell as are starter next year. NO FREAKIN WAY !

  284. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    I hope Cooper Carlisle missses like 3/4ths of the game, if it is under control. Evev if it is not find a way to get B.Campbell on the field.

  285. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    287.jmcclain Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 12:26 am
    People in here honestly saying keep Campbell as are starter next year. NO FREAKIN WAY !

    *************

    Yeah, kinda crazy. ANy blind team should be able to find a FA, trade, Draft a “guy” better than this. BUT if they can not we should do better w/ Campbell in 2011 than 2010. If things stay as are we are AFCW champs hands down. I mean from soup tp nuts keep em all and we win the AFCW. except Jim Michalczik and Chris Morgan. Jim is not doing the quaility job he was thought to be doing, and we all know Morgan is Cable’s Son, so he stays, but we need to look @ Michakczik and ask the hard questions… Why do your guys suck @ pass blocking, why does the center not use good tech, and power, can this C do the jod? If there is a truly better OLC then bring him in MAYBE. The GEL is happening now, we need to let it settle in.

    The team as a whole 1 year together should be able to do much moor damage to the opponet on D and O. And ST

    But if we gonna play mad doctor cut out JLH or N. Miller, find a better Brandon Meyers, get a true #1 VET WR, Keep Bush, Campbell to the Backup, a backup HAMMER blocking FB,

  286. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Better OL guys Satelle, and Carslyle need to be upgraded, as well as L Walker.

  287. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    a starter CB

  288. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Find upgrades for Sam Adams and Ricky brown, but only if they are TRUE upgrades. Theese guy can play, just never gonna be really really good.

  289. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    ur S look good, unless a AWESOME one fell in our lar. But theese guys are good to go.

  290. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    OLB HHmmmm Groves overal grade IMO is an C++, Wimbley is an B. so theese guys need a push from yound up and commers.

  291. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Can Bruce Davis long snap?

  292. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Loper, Daniel looks like good OG depth.

  293. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Is there any real chance Goethel, Travis can play MLB for the RAIDERS with GREAT results?

  294. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Wil Alex Joseph be back next season?

  295. DirteeRaccoon Says:

    Is there a spot on the right side of the line that Mario Henderson can play @ a high level? RG?

    Gallery, and Henderson @ OG with Veelder, and Campbell @ the OT soulds nice. Just add Stephen Wisniewski to the mix @ C and G and we may have a deep Playoff run and the SB…..

    sorry guys the Ambien soma kflex and Norco have kicked in too long ago… see ya.

  296. La Milicia Negra Says:

    the most weird posts from me awaiting moderation…

    what the heck is up with that?

  297. La Milicia Negra Says:

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    December 16th, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Im normally not a ‘the refs ruined the game’ kinda guy, but that umpire clearly ruined the game.. what a wuzz, seems to me they like SD to get a wildcard and that they know this game is important to the raiders..

    efff’em


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    # hwnrdr Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Who’s Steven Rivers? Philips younger brother?
    _________________________________________________________

    yup, he is taller than philip, stronger arm, adn should be even better…

    either in 2012 or 2011 he’s in the draft..


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    # hwnrdr Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    I missed that…why was he ejected?
    _________________________________________________________

    he was shoving match with a SD Oliner.. the Umpire got in the way behind Justin, and didnt see who it was and shoved a bit back… but nothing I have watched 100 of times without any penalty..

    Justin Smith is only one of the best DE’s in the league so of course the 9′ers D was tough as a marshmallow after that… eff the refs

    # La Milicia Negra Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    December 16th, 2010 at 8:06 pm

    HWNrdr..

    okay, I’ve heard he was elegible in ‘11 or ‘12, he has apparently just signed with LSU…

    I know we have burned our fingers with a tall LSU QB, but I think he is it…


    # La Milicia Negra Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    December 16th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    well thats it…

    I still try to figure out why on earth I watched this game to end!?

    Night Gents, kids and foo1s..

  298. La Milicia Negra Says:

    its not that hey are full of potty mouth talk in them, and weirder still, now I CAN post’em…

    Qwaaaayyyziiee

  299. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Threats now? Looks like the Raiders are about to make some rather embarrassing decisions, and some people want to run the most vocal critics out of here ahead of time. No chance.

  300. purvisman Says:

    No offense if this has been addressed already,I’ve not been following much since the heartbreak. So everything plays out right for us; we beat the chiefs; and we have to watch(or listen)to Denver vs Sandy eggo for our playoff life at 1:15PM, pst. That sucks.

  301. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Did you guys notice in the CNNSI draft re-do, four of our picks made it into the first round!!!

    That’s a pretty damned good draft!

    Our first 4 picks are playing big roles this year plus we have others who are putting in descent time (like Stevie Brown). Whatever we did this year we need to keep the same formula in!

  302. Plunketthead Says:

    I could not sleep.
    I had a nightmare.
    I dreamt I went to the Raider playoff game and met NB in the parking lot. He asked me if I had any painkillers and when I pulled out my prescripion, he punched me in the nose, grabbed the vial and ran.

  303. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL Plunk!!!!

    NO BS, I also had a dream that Seabass lined up to kick a 22 yard FG to win the game, and nailed it through. But there was an illegal formation, moved him back 5 yards and than he missed it.

    8 inches of snow here in Albuquerque last night, just had my first experience of getting the snow/ice of my dish and car.

  304. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Not too much worried about the Chefs unless the Rams fall flat at home, then I’m hoping that Tennessee is still fighting for a playoff spot! Cininatti has to come out of thier funk and beat SD next week…but still we have to win out! is that possible? Denver is beatable in the rain no less…Indy cn be beat, but we have to run it down their throats and score TDs because Peyton Manning is…well, Peyton Manning! As for KC…they aren’t really as good as their record suggest! I mean really…
    This can be done guys…but all in all, if the team gives it their best and come out at 8-8, or 9-7, and just miss it…I’ll still be happy for what this season turned out…
    Go Raiders!!!

  305. Plunketthead Says:

    Bellicheat caught on tape cheating again.
    What a dirty, rotten old bassturd

  306. hwnrdr Says:

    Bellicheat caught again? Wow…they should really punish the Patsies now…That’s just BS!

  307. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Some good those two first-round picks at O-line did for the 49ers offense. Iupati looked all right, but that Anthony Davis, slip, do the splits and fall on your butt move while blocking nobody was pretty classic.

    With our rag-tag line that is the object of so much ire on here, we had 251 rushing yards and allowed 1 sack in SD. 49ers gave up 6 sacks and had 50 rushing yards.

    I bet Singletary wishes he had Carlisle, Walker and Samson Satele right now.

  308. hwnrdr Says:

    I like Singletary’s fire and passion that he has for the team, but did you see his press conference after the game…it looked like he wanted to cry because now its even a longer shot. Funny though, how they can still make the playoffs by winning their next two and hoping that either Seattle or the Rams lose out. 7-9 in the playoffs? WOW is all I got to say…

  309. Just Fire Baby Says:

    AZ is two games out of first but they play Carolina this week and Seattle plays ATL and STL plays KC.

    Who knows, at the end of the weekend, AZ could be one game out of first, with a game against STL still.

    Ridiculous!!!

  310. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    Fire is great as a HC, if you have really smart co-ordinators to pick up the slack.

    I don’t think that is the case in SF, and here we have had patches of excellence with Hue and Marshall, but we also get patches of Jacoby Ford in the wildcat and the 5 safety alignment.

  311. hwnrdr Says:

    Morning JFB…I hear ya…I think Mike Johnson as thier OC really has to go, either that or Alex Smith needs to pack and get outta town already

  312. hwnrdr Says:

    What was going on in the PM last night? Was there some kinda rage button that was hit? Man…Bobby wanted to take on the world last night…
    Anyways…

  313. Plunketthead Says:

    Todays subject of the day SOD

    PFT blog & comments on changing the rules if a 7-9 team wins division.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/15/nfc-west-could-inspire-re-seeding-change/#comments

    This got me to thinking about changing divisions to shake things up.
    Seattle, SD, SF and the OAKLAND RAIDERS

    Less travel, it would be “easier for us”. KC and Dungver games can be brutal in december.
    I could live with losing our two hated divisional rivals..

    Best thing about it

    KICKING NINER ARSE TWICE A YEAR IN THE BATTLE OF THE BAYS

  314. r8eray Says:

    good morning raider nation!

  315. hwnrdr Says:

    That would be cool…just keep everything in one time zone! However, is there a rule that if two teams play in the same area, that one has to be an AFC Team and the other an NFC team?

  316. Plunketthead Says:

    Denver, KC, Arizona and the Lambs in the NFC west

  317. Plunketthead Says:

    I was never a big Ram fan but looking back at the history, theres only one team for LA and thats the current team in St Louis.

    They should bring back the Rams and the blue and white unis

  318. ghosttothepost Says:

    It just makes me wanna puke to think the frigging lame ass chargers are probably going to make the playoffs after we whipped them twice … can they get any luckier on their schedule … played Jags when they were a train-wreck, played Steelers minus Ben, played KC minus Cassel and now played whiners minus Gore, the team’s only legit offensive weapon … Norv must live at church when he’s not at the SD HQ

  319. Plunketthead Says:

    I dont like the current rules where we play one division in the AFC and one in the NFC and alternate every year.

    It may be the best system but it seems to predictable, too boring.

  320. ghosttothepost Says:

    And now they get to finish against Denver (after any team in the NFC worst, the weakest team in the NFL) and then finish against the awful Bungals … no friggin justice

  321. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Turns out the Raiders had their first ever “Defeat Monday” this week. Getting Monday off is normally associated with a win.

    Defensive tackle Tommy Kelly said he hadn’t even looked at Jacksonville game film.

    ***

    Kelly was singled up on a guard when MJD broke through the middle of our D-Line in a gaping hole and only Wimbley had a chance to take him down with a flail of his arm. Pretty sure this guy should have watched at least SOME film

    Moss & Routt could have watched some film on that long Jennings TD.

    Huff gave up 2 TD’s. Marcedes Lewis pretty much had his way with everybody

    the ST unit should have looked at that KR return.

    Boller should have looked at that INT he threw and explain why he burned one of our timeouts, which would have been much needed during Campbell’s final drive

  322. ghosttothepost Says:

    But, bottom line, we lose 3 games we should (must, gotta) win or else we’re already talking playoffs … i’d like to run SeaBass’s head through a meat grinder — and what the frig was up in that debacle when we lost to the whiners? Costly, costly defeat

  323. hwnrdr Says:

    They got Cinci next then Denver…
    But hey, Cinci has to come out of thier weird season slump, right? …+++…

  324. RaiderRockstar Says:

    In this “Hindight is 20-20” NFL draft do-over
    by CNN-SI’s Don Banks, the Raiders pass on Rolando McClain this time and instead select Dallas wide receiver Dez Bryant at No. 8. McClain goes No. 20 to the Houston Texans

    ***

    McClain = backup to DeMeco Ryans?

    LOL!

    thoughts?

  325. Just Fire Baby Says:

    and what the frig was up in that debacle when we lost to the whiners

    ******************************

    Apparently the “system” was too new for Campbell to be able to hit a wide open by 20 yards WR on a flea flicker and not post a QB rating worse than even Jamarcus Russell ever did.

  326. Just Fire Baby Says:

    McClain = backup to DeMeco Ryans?

    LOL!

    thoughts?

    *****************************

    Would have been a great move being that Demeco blew out his achilles one month into the season.

  327. ghosttothepost Says:

    Maybe Hwnrdr … sometimes late in the season, teams that have nothing to play for beat teams with everything to play for — not that uncommon … but, boy, cincy has just been awful, although they are probably a lot better than denver at this point … i just can’t find a scenario where cincy’s defense has any chance of stopping rivers … maybe bad weather could help but knowing SDs luck, it will be like a fall day in cincy, 60 degrees and sunny

  328. ghosttothepost Says:

    JFB .. how you liking that ABQ snow … sucks, don’t it?

  329. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cinci has to come out of thier weird season slump, right?

    ***

    Hwnrdr,

    the Bengals have as talented a roster as any team in the league. Not sure if the issue is coaching or what?

    Look at this Offense: Palmer, Benson, Owens, Ocho, Shipley, Gresham.

    That OL ranks 15th in sacks allowed with 28. Chicago is in 1st place of that division and that OL has allowed a league worst 47!

    Thier run defense is better than ours and they might have the best CB tandem in the league

  330. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I don’t think Denver will win another game all season. They have packed it in!

  331. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Would have been a great move being that Demeco blew out his achilles one month into the season.

    ***

    you can never predict injuries, unless you’re talking about guys like Gradkowski & Schilens!

  332. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BAUCE was right. SF got rolled last night!

  333. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Ghost,

    8 inches overnnight on my side of town. Had my first experience getting snow/ice of my cars and the Dish.

    Couldn’t imagine having to do this every morning!!!

  334. hwnrdr Says:

    That’s what I mean Rockstar…they have the talent to do it…
    Ghost, I know…SD’s luck under Norv…someone sold their soul to only lose in the playoffs every year…

  335. ghosttothepost Says:

    RR … agree cincy is best chance to beat SD … they have been close against some tough teams … but scares me that they can give up 49 to the bills … anyway, it’s best hope to beat SD … and we can’t go to the playoffs without it … the thought of SD going to postseason and we don’t after beating them twice is stuck inside my craw

  336. Dakota Says:

    Raiders 75 Broncos 2

  337. hwnrdr Says:

    You guys heard Rivers last night when asked about the 20-1 record in December? He said that he should have been 21-0 and that he still is pissed about that loss a couple of weeks ago…lol

  338. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That’s what I mean Rockstar…they have the talent to do it

    agree cincy is best chance to beat SD … they have been close against some tough teams … but scares me that they can give up 49 to the bills … anyway, it’s best hope to beat SD … and we can’t go to the playoffs without it

    ***

    Go Bungles!

  339. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if SD wins out?

    the Raiders will go 6-0 in the AFC West and fail to make the playoffs, which has NEVER been done in the history of the league

  340. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Blood Bus just pulled up in front of my office building. I think i’ll go donate

    See you guys in a bit!

  341. ghosttothepost Says:

    Hwnrdr .. rivers is a whiny, snot-nosed brat — who just happens to have one of the best arms in the nfl … the punk pisses me off

  342. r8eray Says:

    jfb, vegas sounds good..right about now?

  343. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 7:08 am
    if SD wins out?

    the Raiders will go 6-0 in the AFC West and fail to make the playoffs, which has NEVER been done in the history of the league

    That would be their last laugh on us…yeah, you beat us twice but guess what? We’re playing in the playoffs…

  344. hwnrdr Says:

    I hear ya Ghost…I was laughing about that because he couldn’t even mention the Raiders…he said “that loss a couple of weeks ago…”

  345. Dakota Says:

    A little snow never killed anyone….well, maybe a few people, but it is still awesome! I love snow. Brisk cold air flowing into your lungs, cheeks freezing….you feel alive!

  346. ghosttothepost Says:

    with a name like dakota, ya gotta love snow … it’s an inborn quality .. me personally, thinks snow is nice to visit but never want to live in it again

  347. Lynn from Snot Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 7:16 am

    A little snow never killed anyone….well, maybe a few people, but it is still awesome! I love snow. Brisk cold air flowing into your lungs, cheeks freezing….you feel alive!
    ———————————-
    Like working in a meat freezer 8 hrs?????

  348. Dakota Says:

    347.Lynn from Snot Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 7:19 am
    # Dakota Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 7:16 am

    A little snow never killed anyone….well, maybe a few people, but it is still awesome! I love snow. Brisk cold air flowing into your lungs, cheeks freezing….you feel alive!
    ———————————-
    Like working in a meat freezer 8 hrs?????
    ++++++++++++

    lol, never done it, but maybe I missed my calling!

  349. Plunketthead Says:

    I got the same experience when I left Vegas.
    But Scrapping ice aint nothing.

    You will really fool like a fool when you have to break out an extension cord and a hair dryer. Its 6 in the morning, mind numbing cold with a stiff northern wind blowing up your bunghole and you are using a hair dryer to thaw out the dam lock so you can get a key in. 30 minutes later you get the key in but the mo%$#@r f**&%^r is frozen to the bone and you have another thirty minutes to go

  350. Dakota Says:

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TqtGNnzte6o/SyqHwoHBdaI/AAAAAAAAC2U/cFI18sBqHoI/s400/11.jpg

    A little snow in Hot Springs brings out the mountain lions….fun!

  351. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Tony Romo just got engaged. What an upgrade from Jessica Simpson.
    http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701&va=Candice+Crawford

  352. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Those pics should warm you up in Hot Springs lol

  353. Dakota Says:

    349.Plunketthead Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 7:23 am
    I got the same experience when I left Vegas.
    But Scrapping ice aint nothing.

    You will really fool like a fool when you have to break out an extension cord and a hair dryer. Its 6 in the morning, mind numbing cold with a stiff northern wind blowing up your bunghole and you are using a hair dryer to thaw out the dam lock so you can get a key in. 30 minutes later you get the key in but the mo%$#@r f**&%^r is frozen to the bone and you have another thirty minutes to go
    +++++++++++++

    Now that sounds like the winter I spent in Dickinson, ND…..that isn’t snow, that is arctic freeze! You can leave your car running, with the wipers going when you stop at a store, but when you come out the windows are still iced over….unreal!

    Miserable.

  354. hwnrdr Says:

    Did Jerry take the morning off or something?

  355. Just Fire Baby Says:

    jfb, vegas sounds good..right about now?

    *********************************

    Absolutely Ray!!!

    The wife got some invite to the new casig that just opened, Cosmopolitan, so we may go in a couple of months.

    Did you hear about the Bellagio being robbed?

  356. Plunketthead Says:

    That happened in the high desert mts behind the spot you stopped for lunch at.
    I embellished the time taken to thaw it out

  357. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Man I’ve never driven in snow in my life, lol!!!!

    About to be a grandma in my Hyundai Sonata.

  358. ghosttothepost Says:

    all of the above … why i live in NorCal

  359. ghosttothepost Says:

    JFB … drive …. very … slow … hyundai’s ain’t made for it … not much snow in korea …

  360. Dakota Says:

    357.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 7:46 am
    Man I’ve never driven in snow in my life, lol!!!!

    About to be a grandma in my Hyundai Sonata.
    +++++++++

    Oh boy, good luck!

    http://www.salcidolaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Accident-in-the-Snow.jpg

  361. L.A. Raider Dave Says:

    I’m so pissed about that missed kick in the Arizona game. Thanks for missing an easy one Jano. Hurts more now then right after the game.

  362. ghosttothepost Says:

    Jano’s miss is the gift that keeps on giving …

  363. ghosttothepost Says:

    dakota … that pic is cruel … that car is just flattened … JFB, don’t worry, even if you don’t make it, you probably won’t be dead like the driver of the car in that pic obviously was … just trying to be encouraging here

  364. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well I only have to go about 4 miles to the Starbucks to meet some guy, than later a few more miles so I shouldn’t be so bad.

    Don’t want to smash anything up, my hot rod only has about 11,000 miles on it!!!!!!

  365. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    I’ve hated the Bengals for years now. Why? They injured Bo. Unforgiveable.

    But I’ll lay that aside next Sunday and become the biggest Bengals fan in the world. The Donks have quit. They aren’t winning another game. The Bengals are the last chance to beat SD.

    For now, though, gotta cheer Sam Bradford, Steve Jackson and Howie’s son to give the Chiefs another dose of what the Chargers gave them last Sunday.

  366. Lynn from Snot Says:

    We need to win out first then hope the Jets lose all three road games plus KC to tank two of three and or SD to slip up vs Cin or Den.

  367. ghosttothepost Says:

    lynn, we still have a chance for wild card, huh?

  368. Lynn from Snot Says:

    That’s what i’m hoping for but don’t know about tie breakers and common opponent.

  369. hwnrdr Says:

    I think our best shot is to win the Division…

  370. J Hill Says:

    In this “Hindight is 20-20” NFL draft do-over
    by CNN-SI’s Don Banks, the Raiders pass on Rolando McClain this time and instead select Dallas wide receiver Dez Bryant at No. 8.

    ——————————————————-

    Of course they do. Was a no brainer at the time.

  371. VanHeathen Says:

    If our Ommpa Loompa of a place kicker could actually run and maybe make a tackle, instead of flailing an arm like an old lady, Jax may not have taken that last kick into FG position…
    Dude has to go…

  372. Lynn from Snot Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

  373. Just Fire Baby Says:

    With the 8th pick you take the best propspect at a C position.

    My short list was McClain (my preference) Dez or Iupati.

    The best MLB, WR, or G. You don’t take the 3rd best LT, or 2nd best DB when you are picking in the top 10.

    You are in the top 10 picks for a reason, you got holes everywhere.

  374. ghosttothepost Says:

    Dudes, let’s be honest … raiders are currently a long shot to win the division … times that by 1,000 for a wild card … have to get by jets, ravens, dolphins and even colts … better chance of Al hiring a GM

  375. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I think the Bengals will give the Dolts all they can handle.

    SD doesn’t strike you as a cold-weather team, and what are the Bengals going to lose their last 13 games of the season? They got to win at least one.

    Will be interesting what Vegas makes that line at. Wouldn’t be suprised if San Diego if it were a suprising pick em.

  376. hwnrdr Says:

    A long shot yes, but still more possible than a wild card. however, unless the Bengals end the season on pride…there is no way

  377. J Hill Says:

    We need a WR that can dominate the short and intermediate routes!

  378. Dakota Says:

    Michael Oher was the 4th tackle taken and Eugene Monroe was the 3rd tackle tacken in 2009. I don’t care if they weren’t the first tackle off the board @#8 in 2009, we should have taken one of them and we would be much better off right now.

  379. J Hill Says:

    We should turn DHB into that short route guy and let Murphy and Ford handle the deep stuff.

  380. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jared Veldheer is better than Eugene Monroe and costs about 1/10th the price for a few years.

  381. ghosttothepost Says:

    Van … lol — oompa loompa kicker … lmao

  382. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Wildcard is pretty much an impossibility.

    I used ESPN’s playoff machine thingy they’ve got to see what would happen if the Jets lose every game, the Raiders win out, but SD doesn’t lose and take the division.

    Jets have the tiebreaker over us for the wildcard, even if we’re both 9-7 because of “Better win percentage against common opponents.” Didn’t even know that was a tiebreaker, but there you go.

    It’s win the division or bust. And given San Diego’s schedule, it’s looking like “bust.”

  383. ghosttothepost Says:

    willy “al” wonka and the Sour Patch Kids Factory

  384. Lynn from Snot Says:

    What is having sex on the beach and light beer have in common ??????? both are fukcing close to water

  385. ghosttothepost Says:

    good info SnB … yep, Norv sold his soul — and gets every stitch of luck imaginable — and still folds like a cheap lawn chair in the playoffs every year … SD makes me wanna puke

  386. J Hill Says:

    Its 6 in the morning, mind numbing cold with a stiff northern wind blowing up your bunghole and you are using a hair dryer to thaw out the dam lock so you can get a key in. 30 minutes later you get the key in but the mo%$#@r f**&%^r is frozen to the bone and you have another thirty minutes to go

    ——————————————————-

    Kinda stuff that makes humans head West!

  387. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Raiders have no one to blame but themselves, though. If they could’ve just found a way to win ONE of the 3 games they should’ve had this year–Arizona, San Fran, Jacksonville–they wouldn’t need to hope a crap team rises up and beats SD. And if they had won two, they’d have insurance against getting beat by the Colts. Win all three-which is what good teams do-and they could be laughing at both the Chiefs and Chargers right now.

  388. Dakota Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 8:11 am
    Jared Veldheer is better than Eugene Monroe and costs about 1/10th the price for a few years

    ++++++++++

    Says who? And we are still paying DHB more than Monroe, and getting zero return, so the money is a wash.

  389. ghosttothepost Says:

    what’s up with these teams against SD … we showed how to beat them twice … hit ‘em in the mouth .. then hit em in the mouth again .. when you’re done with that, hit em in the mouth … their true colors (baby powder blue) start showing

  390. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Raiders have a 4-5 conference record the worst of teams in the hunt. So its AFC west or go fishing

  391. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Says who? And we are still paying DHB more than Monroe, and getting zero return, so the money is a wash.

    *********************************

    Says me!!! Monroe has been pretty inconsistant according to his wikipedia page, lol, and missed starts here and there.

    But yes, you are right about the wash on cash because of DHB. Maybe we can find a way for him to decoy the salary cap that will be in place next year.

  392. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade Jon Condo for Eugene Monroe!

  393. Dakota Says:

    Hey Bo, what do you think of the game McFadden had last weekend?

  394. J Hill Says:

    My short list was McClain (my preference) Dez or Iupati.

    ——————————————————-

    Our short list was the same good man.

    But my preference was Dez and then Iupati. Dez and McFadden/Bush?????? I still don’t see how we passed in Dez.

  395. RaiderRockstar Says:

    hey Lynn,

    what do Arkansas divorces and a tornadoes have in common?

    at the end of the day … somebody is losing a trailer!

  396. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Monroe gave up 9 sacks his rookie year, playing in 15 games with 13 starts.

    Veldheer will play all 16 games, with 12 starts, and I doubt he gives up 9 sacks.

  397. ghosttothepost Says:

    does anybody in here despise the Dis-Chargers as much as me????

  398. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill,

    why did the woman cross the road?

    Well… the real question is, what is she doing out of the kitchen?

  399. Dakota Says:

    In 2009

    we could have drafted Oher or Monroe in round 1 instead of Mr. Can’t Catch DHB, and Max Unger in round 2 instead of Mr. Can’t Cover MM34.

    We’d be much better off with Oher/Monroe at RT or LT and Unger at C or RG, than with those two reaches.

  400. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JFB,

    why did the chicken cross the road?

    to prove to the armadillo it could be done!

  401. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I still don’t see how we passed in Dez

    ***

    Jacoby Ford!

  402. Plunketthead Says:

    lol
    I like how the media allowed them to get away with powder blue instead of the traditional and aptly named baby blue because you can put it on your baby boy instead of pink so folks know its a boy.

    Why would an NFL team do that to begin with. I wonder what their thoughts were when they first decided to go with it.

    Maybe a beachbum won a choose the the color contest

  403. Dakota Says:

    397.ghosttothepost Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 8:24 am
    does anybody in here despise the Dis-Chargers as much as me????
    +++++++++++++++

    In order from most hated to least I hate the:

    Broncos
    KC
    Patriots
    Steelers
    Chargers
    Seachickens
    49ers

    I just can’t summon up the hate for the Chargers that I can for Denver or KC. I guess as a kid, the Chargers just always sucked, while KC and Dungver owned us for a long time.

  404. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 8:08 am

    I think the Bengals will give the Dolts all they can handle.

    SD doesn’t strike you as a cold-weather team, and what are the Bengals going to lose their last 13 games of the season? They got to win at least one.

    Will be interesting what Vegas makes that line at. Wouldn’t be suprised if San Diego if it were a suprising pick em.
    =====================================

    Wow, you left your linemaking acumen in Vegas.

    I make it a solid 6, maybe even 7.

  405. ghosttothepost Says:

    Good point, Dakota,it’s hard not to hate KC & Denver … but something about SD’s luck lately just galls me … think about how lucky they are right now to be in position to go the playoffs .. seriously they could be eliminated if not for an inordinate amount of luck

  406. J Hill Says:

    Well… the real question is, what is she doing out of the kitchen?

    ——————————————————-

    Going to get some Milk?

  407. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    # Raider75 Says:
    December 16th, 2010 at 6:50 pm

    well, won’t be getting any help from the Niners.

    How did Oakland lose to San Fran?
    ============================================
    One word.

    JaJason.

  408. RaiderRockstar Says:

    does anybody in here despise the Dis-Chargers as much as me????

    ***

    I’m not worried about them. We cleaned their clocks twice this year. We put ourselves in this situation

    Titans (5-8)
    Cardinals (4-9)
    Texans (5-8)
    49ers (5-9)

    those early losses hurt!

  409. ghosttothepost Says:

    here’s a totally NOT PC joke … What does the lady who just got out of the abused women clinic say?

    Nothing, if she knows what’s good for her

  410. ghosttothepost Says:

    RR .. not worried about them, just miffed they probably make the playoffs (and fold, as usual) while we probably watch …. AGAIN!

  411. Dakota Says:

    Oh, sorry, I left the Cowgirls out of the last list:

    In order from most hated to least I hate the:

    Broncos
    KC
    Patriots
    Steelers
    Chargers
    Cowboys
    Seachickens
    49ers

  412. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ghost,

    what did Tom Cable tell his ex-wife with 2 black eyes?

    NOTHING.

    He already told her twice!

  413. ghosttothepost Says:

    lol

  414. hwnrdr Says:

    Dakota Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 8:35 am
    Oh, sorry, I left the Cowgirls out of the last list:

    In order from most hated to least I hate the:

    Broncos
    KC
    Patriots
    Steelers
    Chargers
    Cowboys
    Seachickens
    49ers

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I have:
    Broncos
    KC
    Cowboys
    Patriots
    49ers
    Chargers
    I uesed to not like the Rams but, over the years…I really have nothing against them. They were fun to watch in ‘01

  415. Dakota Says:

    Grossman to start instead of McNabb this weekend. Looks like McNabb will be a FA after this year. I expect to see him in purple and gold up in Minny for a couple more shots at the SB before their window closes.

    Gruden and McNabb in Minny next year….take it to the bank.

  416. RaiderRockstar Says:

    In order from most hated to least I hate the:

    Chiefs
    Broncos
    Chargers
    49ers
    Patriots

    could care less about Pittsburgh, Dallas or Seattle. or St Louis (local, plus likely NFC West champs)

  417. RaiderRockstar Says:

    McNabb benched AGAIN? LOL

    where are JFB & BCZ?

    Jason Campbell > Donovan McNabb
    Tom Cable > Mike Shanahan

  418. weaselbit Says:

    Why did the broco fan cross the road?

    Because he had his d@ck stuck in the chicken.

  419. J Hill Says:

    We can stumble into a good #2 back. I’d let Bush walk, shoulda traded him last offseason! Will be too expensive to take DMac’s scraps week in and week out.

  420. ghosttothepost Says:

    My greatest hate in the NFL right now is BSPN … Did anyone see that 15-minute (it was probably like three minutes but seemed at least 5 times that long) special on Bert & Ernie Favre because he was about to miss a game … God, blow him a little harder please … BSPN has turned into a typical American big Biz bottom-line boring ass station .. when it first started, it was the best … now it’s crap .. i almost never turn it on — unless I want to hear about how great the Pats are or here about Bert’s last episode with gas pains or find out why the Celtics, Heat & Lakers spooge on each other for NBA regular season bragging rights

  421. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Chiefs offense with a healthy Charles, Jones, Bowe & Moeaki has put up a total of 10 points over the past 2 weeks …

    Go Rams!

  422. weaselbit Says:

    Why do women have to wear tampons when they parachute?

    So they don’t whistle on the way down.

  423. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL @ weaselbit!

  424. RaiderRockstar Says:

    We can stumble into a good #2 back

    ***

    Justin Fargas or Michael Bennett?

  425. J Hill Says:

    I was thinking a bigger back in rd 3 or 4.

  426. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Here’s a thought…

    If the Raids retain both JaJason and Grads, and don’t bring in other competition…

    JFB will have the opportunity to predict that Grads will replace JaJason by halftime of week 2 again.

    (Still the best prediction ever made on this blog, JFB)

    And if he does — he’ll be right AGAIN.

    A healthy Gradkowski will outplay JaJason.

    Even JFB doesn’t believe in Grads anymore.

    Can’t say I blame him.

    But I predict he’ll be making another Grads prediction around week 2 of the pre-season…

    Unless Al dumps future draft picks and players and moves up to draft Cam Newton.

    Which I think is a very realistic scenario.

    Cam really does look like a man amongst boys out there.

    Al will find it impossible not to covet that type of physical dominance and will be drooling over the possibility of a Newton wearing Silver and Black.

    If Newton is still on the board when it comes time for the Pats to choose using the Raids nbr 1 secured in the Seymour trade…then Al will trade again to get our original pick back and pull the trigger !

    So the final trade will be Seymour and Cam Newton for 2 first round picks (and maybe another 2nd or 3rd, or players).

    How do you like them apples ?

  427. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I was thinking a bigger back in rd 3 or 4.

    ***

    there were at least 5 of these dudes in Rounds 6 & 7 last year!

    Rounds 2 & 3 = O-Line
    Rounds 4 & 5 = Defensive Backs

  428. HairyBush Says:

    Two things happened last night…

    1) I felt like I was watching the 2006 Raiders, 49ers are pathetic!

    2) I was reassured We need Vincent Jackson! Pay the Man!

  429. weaselbit Says:

    I hear that Ghost. How does a dude(married to a cancer survivor) who texted a photo of his johnson still have any credibilty w/ any network is beyond me. can’t stand to even look at him. They got a stiffy for rapist Rothlessburger as well.
    Not much coverage of the Jets’ “wall” either. There’s a story there.

  430. Dakota Says:

    425.J Hill Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 8:47 am
    I was thinking a bigger back in rd 3 or 4.
    ++++++++++++++

    How much do you think Bush will ask for? If it is reasonable I would rather keep him and save the pick for a more urgent need. Plus, I’d hate to see Dungver sign him and then have to watch him blow us up twice a year for the next five years.

  431. Dakota Says:

    If we paid Fargas $12 million over three years, I think we can pay Bush.

  432. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Unless Al dumps future draft picks and players and moves up to draft Cam Newton.

    Which I think is a very realistic scenario.

    Cam really does look like a man amongst boys out there.

    Al will find it impossible not to covet that type of physical dominance and will be drooling over the possibility of a Newton wearing Silver and Black.

    ***

    Who knows? Sam Bradford was the consensus #1 overall pick and reports came out that the Raiders had a bunch of scouts there to check him out. Trading up was a thought that crossed Al’s mind

    Looking back, I wonder what it would have taken to get that deal done? McClain wouldn’t be missed, but Houston, Veldheer & Ford sure would have!

  433. HairyBush Says:

    How much do you think Bush will ask for? If it is reasonable I would rather keep him and save the pick for a more urgent need. Plus, I’d hate to see Dungver sign him and then have to watch him blow us up twice a year for the next five years.
    ———————-
    I think he will ask for league minimum and a lifetime supply of rogaine.

  434. bcz24 Says:

    Interesting. In the draft redux link up there, if all teams were to redraft FOUR of our draft picks would be taken in the first round! McClain, Houston, Veldheer and Ford all show being picked in the first. That is a hell of a draft for us!

  435. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    There’s no question Al can and would pay Bush.

    The real question is if Bush wants to stay in Oakland and play second fiddle to DMAC.

    He might have greater, starting aspirations.

  436. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BCZ,

    McNabb benched again … thoughts?

  437. weaselbit Says:

    Grads had a great year last year. Didn’t really carry over to this year. Gotta love his heart though.If Campbell can actually stay consistent he’s at least adequate. We need somebody that doesn’t make Ford slow down to catch the ball. Although he does seem to be improving. Just the memory of those deer in the headlights games Campbell had are scary. I hope he’s done w/ that.

  438. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al Davis is about to make the rich even richer … expect some heavy contracts to land at the feet of Seymour & Routt

    Bush & Gallery are guys that you’d like to have back, but could probably live without

    Can you imagine Jon Gruden coaching Denver with Moreno and Mike Bush in the backfield and an already impressive passing game? yikes!

  439. BigTed707 Says:

    How many Rednecks does it take to open a beer?

    NONE: the bish better have it open by the time I get home.

  440. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Vincent Jackson will be the highest paid WR in the league for Oakland next year.

    SD will sign Johnnie Lee Higgins in FA for the vet minimum

    these players will have identical stats next season.

  441. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL @ Ted. you belong in Podunk!

  442. HairyBush Says:

    Bush & Gallery are guys that you’d like to have back, but could probably live without
    ————————-
    disagree,I like sticking with and paying our homegrown talent. Bush and Gallery contribute.

  443. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 9:03 am
    Vincent Jackson will be the highest paid WR in the league for Oakland next year.

    SD will sign Johnnie Lee Higgins in FA for the vet minimum

    these players will have identical stats next season.
    ————————
    lol

  444. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    JLH will be flipping burgers for JaMoron to inhale next season.

  445. J Hill Says:

    Bush is outta here mayne.

    The dude is tired of sitting on the bench and I’m sure someone will offer him a chance at carries. I’m not saying I don’t like the guy, I just don’t see him being a happy camper on the bench.

  446. RaiderRockstar Says:

    HB,

    JLH = homegrown talent!

  447. bcz24 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 8:57 am
    BCZ,

    McNabb benched again … thoughts?
    **************
    Hadnt heard that but my thoughts are they are going to cut him so who cares. Shanarat tried rollin with Snyders vets and it didnt work, now he is going to build HIS team through the draft. Might also be trying to improve his draft position. You cant possible think Grossman is better than McNabb.

    I still think the Raiders would be better this year with McNabb starting every game than Campbell. I have a feeling we may find out next year.

  448. J Hill Says:

    Raiderman99,

    Hasn’t Bruce earned his “Ja”?!?!?!?

  449. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the Pats should kick Fred Taylor, Kevin Faulk & Sammy Morris to the curb.

    Can you imagine a Mike Bush / Benjarvis Green-Ellis 1-2 punch?

  450. inonewordraider Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 8:38 am
    In order from most hated to least I hate the:

    Chiefs
    Broncos
    Chargers
    49ers
    Patriots

    Now that we’ve beaten the Chargers twice this year, my least faves have become the Pats which is crazy because they’re not even in our division

    Pats then Chargers by far my most hated teams

  451. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I still think the Raiders would be better this year with McNabb starting every game than Campbell. I have a feeling we may find out next year.

    ***

    only if Donovan wants a 2-year $12 million deal without a guarantee that he’ll be the starter over JCamp!

  452. J Hill Says:

    SD will sign Johnnie Lee Higgins in FA for the vet minimum

    ——————————————————-

    Not tall enough to play in SD.

  453. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Clinton Portis is likely done in Washington & Ricky Williams will retire. Cadillac Williams & Bryan Westbrook are just 1 good hit away from hanging up the cleats for good too

    no shortage of suitors for Mike Bush next year.

  454. hwnrdr Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 9:08 am
    the Pats should kick Fred Taylor, Kevin Faulk & Sammy Morris to the curb.

    Can you imagine a Mike Bush / Benjarvis Green-Ellis 1-2 punch?

    No, because don’t we play them next year?

  455. bcz24 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 9:08 am
    the Pats should kick Fred Taylor, Kevin Faulk & Sammy Morris to the curb.
    ******************
    Kevin Faulk is the best 3rd down back in football. No way they get rid of him unless he retires.

  456. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    # J Hill Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 9:07 am

    Raiderman99,

    Hasn’t Bruce earned his “Ja”?!?!?!?
    ======================================

    He came very close to it based on the Miami game.

    Not so much because of his performace (which Jasucked), but because he went in there knowing his wing still wasn’t right.

    For jeopardizing the Raider season by playing when he clearly wasn’t up to it — he probably should be called JaKowski — but I just haven’t reached that point yet. Putting his individual status above the team isn’t excusable, but I’ll give Grads the benefit of the doubt and think maybe he thought he could play through an unfully healed separated shoulder.

    Truthfully, Grads season should have been over after the Pitt game. It was evident his arm still wasn’t right even in that game and that surgery or IR was on the horizon.

    At this point, Bruce has to be worried he’s got the same shoulder problem as Stafford.

    But contrary to popular opinion on this board, I still maintain that when healthy, Grads is clearly superior to JaJason — and I think he’ll eventually prove that.

  457. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Not tall enough to play in SD

    ***

    he’s only 1 inch shorter than Crayton!

  458. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Kevin Faulk is the best 3rd down back in football. No way they get rid of him unless he retires.

    ***

    the Pats signed Danny Woodhead to a contract extension.

    Faulk is done in N.E. – Print That

  459. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Daniel Snyder is probably ripping his hair out right about now.

    He’d have the same amount of wins with Zorn & Campbell and in the 4-3 Defense Fat Albert would be playing good soldier and might be on his way to another Pro Bowl. Snyder wasted how much $$$ on Shanny & McNabb? plus Haynesworth is about to get dropped after that $100 million contract, LOL

    this clown makes Al Davis look like Owner of the century!

  460. J Hill Says:

    But contrary to popular opinion on this board, I still maintain that when healthy, Grads is clearly superior to JaJason — and I think he’ll eventually prove that.

    —————————————————–

    Clearly? I don’t know about that.

    It’s probably the same in that the defense and running game would determine if we win. JaBruce takes too many chances with the ball, and that is what brings him down a notch IMO. Playing like he has something to prove, if you will. Classic case of his biggest strength = his biggest weakness.

    If you are honest about it, you will see that JaBruce had opportunities to make plays and win the Az and Houston game, but DID NOT! Yeah, other guys didn’t make plays in those games, but neither did he!

    So you think JaBruce was hurt in the Miami game? Coaches should be fired for that alone if they played an injured QB the ENTIRE game.

  461. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JCamp would have another year in Zorn’s system. OT’s Trent Williams & Jamaal Brown. offensive weapons Keiland Williams & Anthony Armstrong

    yeah, theres no way they have less than 5 wins this year under those circumstances…

    Allen & Shanny = Washington train wreck

  462. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    One other thing I’d like to mention that hasn’t been touched on yet.

    That’s JaJason’s durability.

    I don’t think that’s been a question yet in his ‘career’ (if you want to call it that).

    JaJason has taken some big hits this year and come back pretty well. Took a good smack vs SF in the pre-season. Got whacked in Pitt.

    Overall, I think his durabilty has been good, even if he’s exhibited that zombie like, thousand mile stare, after a few hits or being under heavy pressure.

    That said, I think he’s on the verge of, or already, showing signs of a dangerous predisposition to concussions.

    There’s been a few times where his noggin has barely been hit and he looked dazed or out of it. I didn’t think the helmet to helmet he took in Jax was enough for him to stay down like he was shot and mortally wounded.

    And now he’s talking about ’stingers’.

    Not good.

    I’ll be surprised if JaJason makes it through the season or the next good hit he takes.

  463. DKnight007 Says:

    Don Banks is a fool. The Raiders were set on McClain once the top OT’s were off the board and Suh was gone.

    No way McClain would have fell to Houston at 20. Denver, J-Ville, and the Giants all wanted him.

    Have you guys done your voting for Raider Pro Bowl Players?

  464. Silver-and-black666 Says:

    Shanahan will go back to Denver, Gruden will be hired by the Texans, Cower will take the Carolina job and Washington will hire Marty again.

    That is my prediction.

    As far as what will Al Davis do…..nobody can predict that!

  465. YoungAmerican Says:

    It’s a shame that the Raiders have a glaring need for a new C (especially with Satele being a free agent), and probably won’t be in position to get Wisniewski or Pouncey in the draft.

  466. RaiderRockstar Says:

    99,

    Jason Campbell is solely responsible for 6 wins so far this year, including a sweep of SD who we haven’t beaten since 2003 (13 straight or whatever it was)

    He may not be a Pro Bowler, but he’s getting it done and he’s the best we’ve had since Gannon, so I’ll take it … whats your problem?

    the “Ja” in front of Jason makes you look foolish if you’re comparing him to JaMarcus. The only thing they have in common is skin color, you mope

  467. DKnight007 Says:

    The Raiders need to re-sign Satele.

    It’s absolutely necessary at this point.

  468. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    So you think JaBruce was hurt in the Miami game? Coaches should be fired for that alone if they played an injured QB the ENTIRE game.

    =================================

    Yes, I’m very sure he wasn’t right the entire Mia game.

    He wasn’t right when he came in, in relief, in Pitt.

    Watch the final play against Mia. All it took was a small yank or nudge in an awkward position and Bruce’s shoulder fell apart like toilet paper.

    There’s been conflicting reports about exactly when he first hurt his shoulder, but I think he severely damaged it against Hou, and his arm hasn’t been right since.

    He was too hurt to play against SD, and had to come out once he took a good pop on the shoulder. And he was still too hurt to be out there against Pitt and Mia.

    He was lucky to make it through the Mia game and should have never been out there to begin with.

    You’re right, Cable and the coaching staff deserve alot of heat for that.

  469. YoungAmerican Says:

    99 – When Campbell spends weeks on the bench due to injury, you’ll have a point. Right now, that’s your boy Gradkowski’s MO.

    Neither of these guys are spectacular by any means, and if the Raiders want to be elite they need to find a better option in the draft. No point in rehashing the pointless Campbell v.s. Gradkowski debate.

  470. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Even JFB doesn’t believe in Grads anymore.

    ***********************************

    I don’t believe he can stay healthy enough.

    It’s getting a tad ridiculous, and than he came out in the media befor the Houston game and said he pulled his hammy in a camp invitation for them!!!

    Yikes!!!

    He still is a multi NFL record-holder, lol.

  471. YoungAmerican Says:

    Sadly, Satele might be the best C on the free agent market. If the Raiders can’t trade up for Pouncey or Wiz, Satele should be back.

    In which case, it’s all the more vital to bring in FAs like RG Harvey Dahl or RT Ryan Harris. RG Carl Nicks is also on the market.

  472. YoungAmerican Says:

    Luckily Satele has been playing better as of late, but he’s still not very consistent. Pass rushers collapse the middle of the offensive line far too easily.

  473. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Raiders need to re-sign Satele.

    It’s absolutely necessary at this point.

    ***

    DK, lets wait and see.

    if Cable finishes with 8 or 9 wins, I think he stays and so does his ZBS and the scrub filled O-Line will remain intact for the most part.

    if we finish 6-10 or 7-9 I think Cable is toast and the zbs will be scrapped along with the players who specialize in it (Satele, Carlisle, Gallery, etc.)

  474. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why on earth did the Skins give McNabb that extension halfway through the year?

    I know only about 3 million of it is guaranteed, by why waste the $3 million?

    Even with this mess, they still improved from last years wins and losses, which must tell how bad they were last season.

  475. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I don’t think that Pouncey kid will be a NFL C. At least for a few years.

    This was his first and only year playing C and it was a disaster!!!

  476. Raider Al from Atlanta Says:

    McNabb is the past(TO was right). He is not a leader, loves to blame others and refuses to get in tip top shape. He needs to lose 15 pounds. He could not beat out Jason Campbell. Jason Campbell has been the AFC Offense player of the week. He just needs time to throw.
    Put Sam Williams or Thomas Howard in the middle, if McClain can’t go. Go with a base 46 defense the rest of the year. Stop the run. DHB is still in learning mode, but He is the best blocking WR in the NFL. Coaches around the league want a WR like DHB. His time will come. Now go kick the Broncos ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.

  477. DKnight007 Says:

    RG Carl Nicks would be a great pickup.

    Oh and thanks alot Niners for nothing last night. Your crappy team can’t do us a favor just for once…especially after we beat two of your division foes this year and should have beat the Cards as well.

    Lousy azz Niners!

  478. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Put Sam Williams or Thomas Howard in the middle, if McClain can’t go

    ***

    seriously?

    Ricky Brown is equal to McClain and better than those two special teamers you mentioned. Why not throw Bruce Davis in the mix while you’re at it?

    Travis Goethel is the MLB of the future. Just not sure he’s ready. I’d like to see him start at MLB for Week 17. Throw him to the wolves, sort of like Kiffin did with Al’s pet walrus in WK17 of his rookie year, only that didn’t turn out so well!

  479. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jason Campbell has been the AFC Offense player of the week.

    ****************************

    Campbell won FedEX Air player of the week (for QB’s) but there is only one QB on our roster who ever won AFC Offensive Player of the Week, and set NFL records while doing so.

    And his name spelled backwards is Ikswokdarg.

  480. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 9:45 am

    99,

    Jason Campbell is solely responsible for 6 wins so far this year, including a sweep of SD who we haven’t beaten since 2003 (13 straight or whatever it was)

    He may not be a Pro Bowler, but he’s getting it done and he’s the best we’ve had since Gannon, so I’ll take it … whats your problem?

    the “Ja” in front of Jason makes you look foolish if you’re comparing him to JaMarcus. The only thing they have in common is skin color, you mope

    ===============================================

    LMAO at the notion that JaJason was ’solely’ responsible for the Raids 6 victories.

    That’s pure idiocy.

    I suppose he was responsible for the victory against St Lou ?

    Give me a break.

    JaJason played well in relief the first SD game.

    Didn’t do anything (nor did he have to) against Seattle.

    Same thing in Denver.

    Thought JaJason played well in the second SD game, although he didn’t have to do much there either.

    Thought he did a good job against Jax even in a losing effort. However, even though he played decently, the lack of an intermediate or long passing game was evident in the loss. Alot of JaJason’s passing yards came on YAC by DMAC.

    You can read racism into the name JaJason if you want.

    Doesn’t bother me or concern me.

    But saying JaJason is solely responsible for the Raids 6 victories is evidence you’re the real mope.

  481. RaiderRockstar Says:

    99,

    Grads started 4 games this year and basically lost all 4 of them. Jason Campbell had this team in prime position to make the playoffs until Ford fumbled and Boller threw that INT.

    tell me what Jason Campbell has in common with JaMarcus. Russell went 0-6 against SD and never threw for 300 yards in 25+ starts

    You’re Done.

  482. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RaiderRockStar for instance, works as a Security Guard at a municipal dump, and has a inate problem with uppity negroes like me, who travel the world and live better than he does. No matter what he might say

    ***

    Kell,

    lets get something straight. I have no problem with your income or ethnicity. It’s your attitude and personality that makes me wish you would walk into oncoming traffic!

    Print That

  483. YoungAmerican Says:

    99, why are you still arguing about this? Unless you can glue Gradkowski back together, he’s not going to be starting for ANY NFL team any time soon.

  484. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Kell, is it racist to name my new black great dane Lamont?

  485. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Travis Goethel is the MLB of the future.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Gawd help us then. The kid looked terrible out there.

  486. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    There’s probably a few posters here that think JaJason was solely responsible for the win vs. KC.

    Rockstar is definitely one of them.

    After all, JaJason is solely responsible for all 6 Raid victories thus far, right ?

    Truth is, JaJason was so horrible the first 3+ quarters of that game, he almost singlehandedly lost it.

    He didn’t ’solely’ lose the game in Tenn, but he sucked that day and was a big part of it.

    Didn’t ’solely’ lose against the Rams, but was well on the way to it until he was mercifully yanked.

    Didn’t solely lose against SF, maybe only 99% responsible for that debacle.

    Didn’t solely lose against Pitt either, but sucked again.

    I see how this works now, when the Raids win JaJason is ’solely’ responsible.

    But we shouldn’t blame him for any losses or talk about the games he sucked in.

    Would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.

  487. Just Fire Baby Says:

    This is what Goethel was really brought to Oakland to be:

    http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/articles/player-drafted-at-linebacker-to-start-at-realtor,17356/

  488. YoungAmerican Says:

    99 has taken up AIG’s cross, it seems. Endlessly moaning about something they have no control over.

    Campbell is the unquestioned starter now. That’s how it’s going to be. No one here thinks that the guy is elite, or that he’s played lights-out this season, but he’s the Raiders starting quarterback now. Get over it.

  489. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Goethel is 15 pounds lighter than McClain…..yet still ran a slower 40 time.

    I mean seriously, the guy makes one tackle in the backfield on a play where he was unblocked and he is the MLB of the future. No concerns of back surgery at 23 years old before he even played a preseason game?

  490. DKnight007 Says:

    473.RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 9:51 am
    The Raiders need to re-sign Satele.

    It’s absolutely necessary at this point.

    ***

    DK, lets wait and see.

    if Cable finishes with 8 or 9 wins, I think he stays and so does his ZBS and the scrub filled O-Line will remain intact for the most part.

    if we finish 6-10 or 7-9 I think Cable is toast and the zbs will be scrapped along with the players who specialize in it (Satele, Carlisle, Gallery, etc.)

    ^^^^^^^
    If we lose him, then who is the next Center? Some guy who will be worse off than him?

    In case you forgot…the Raiders do NOT run an exclusive ZBS system anymore. They have mixed up the blocking schemes quite effectively this year, with some counters and pulling and trapping mixed in with some zone.

    Thats the way to do it.

    Keeping Satele around provides important continuity within the O-Line.

    They have improved their play….especially with run blocking.

  491. DKnight007 Says:

    475.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 9:52 am
    I don’t think that Pouncey kid will be a NFL C. At least for a few years.

    This was his first and only year playing C and it was a disaster!!!

    ^^^^^^^
    The Raiders may look at O’Dowd from USC or the kid from Oregon St. if they can’t get Wisnewski.

    I think the old man Al tries like hell to trade up to get Wisnewski though.

  492. YoungAmerican Says:

    If the top centers in the draft aren’t available, the Raiders are better off keeping Satele than they would be panicking and blowing a mid-round pick on a guy who can’t contribute immediately.

  493. YoungAmerican Says:

    O’Dowd’s injury history is way too concerning. He has a worse injury history than Jake Grove, and Grove has been in the league for what, five years?

  494. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Either O’Dowd or Wisniewski = solid gold

    By the way, did y’all see that McNabb is being benched for Rex f’ing Grossman? LMAO. Who in here was it arguing the other day that Shanahan is a smart guy and a good personnel evaluator?

  495. DKnight007 Says:

    421.RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 8:43 am
    the Chiefs offense with a healthy Charles, Jones, Bowe & Moeaki has put up a total of 10 points over the past 2 weeks …

    Go Rams!

    ^^^^^^^
    We need the Chargers to lose to the Bungals.

    I think it may happen. Chargers going east in cold azz weather and the Bungals will look to try and save face and finish strong.

  496. DKnight007 Says:

    Old Man Al will try like crazy to trade up into first round and snag Wisnewski and that will be his and the Raiders 1st day of the draft big splash move!

    He won’t be able to resist trying to get the nephew of Wisnewski on this Raider squad.

  497. DMAC Says:

    Morning peoples!

  498. DKnight007 Says:

    They should trade the 2nd Rounder and a 4th rounder to move back into the 1st Round to get Wisnewski!

  499. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Thinking it would also be best for us if the Jags win this weekend and pretty much eliminate the Colts.

    Indy is in a similar situation to us. If they beat the Jags, they’ll come with much more fire to play us the day after Christmas than they will if they lose on Sunday.

  500. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    He won’t be able to resist trying to get the nephew of Wisnewski on this Raider squad.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Rumor had it he would’ve taken Chris Long over DMac if he’d been there at #4 in 2008. So maybe.

  501. YoungAmerican Says:

    Honestly, I wouldn’t mind seeing Al trade a 2nd rounder and a future pick in order to get to pick #20 or so. That should be high enough to secure Wisniewski.

    But in that case, I’d want to see Al make a bigger FA splash too. Either a vet WR like Vincent Jackson, or Bengals CB Jonathan Joseph, or the aforementioned targets on the right side of the o-line (Dahl, Nicks, Harris, Gaither). Or any combination of the above.

  502. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Wisnewski has dropped drastically on alot of mock drafts and is now projected a mid to late 2nd round pick

  503. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    99 has taken up AIG’s cross, it seems. Endlessly moaning about something they have no control over.

    Campbell is the unquestioned starter now. That’s how it’s going to be. No one here thinks that the guy is elite, or that he’s played lights-out this season, but he’s the Raiders starting quarterback now. Get over it.

    ================================

    Relax, YA.

    If my posts bother you so much, don’t read em.

    I realize JaJason is the starter and that’s not going to change this year.

    What concerns me is that there’s alot of posters here content to go into 2011 with JaJason as the starter using the ‘he needs more time in the same system’ excuse as a foundation for the belief that Campbell is going to develop into a decent QB.

    And that some myopic posters believe JaJason was solely responsible for the 6 Raider wins this year.

    I’m not content with JaJason starting again in 2011, and don’t think any true Raider fan should be either.

    Don’t know what the answer to the QB dilemma is, but I’m certain it’s not JaJason.

    And I suspect that will be the main topic on this blog throughout the majority of the off-season.

  504. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I believe Florida is playing Penn State in their bowl game, so should be an interesting one to watch.

    Florida always has NFL level prospects on the D-line, so we can see what Wiz 2.0 can do.

    Personally, we have traded so many future picks, I am inclined to stay where we are at, and if we do trade up, nothing crazy just a few spots so we don’t give up much.

  505. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    But in that case, I’d want to see Al make a bigger FA splash too. Either a vet WR like Vincent Jackson, or Bengals CB Jonathan Joseph, or the aforementioned targets on the right side of the o-line (Dahl, Nicks, Harris, Gaither). Or any combination of the above.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    There are some darn good free agents as positions of need for the Raiders…you listed them.

    Finishing at least 8-8 is critical so these guys can be convinced that Oakland is without doubt on their way up and that they can win if they come here. Same goes with retaining our crop of FA’s.

  506. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Goethel is 15 pounds lighter than McClain…..yet still ran a slower 40 time

    ***

    You’re coming at Goethel with the Height-Weight-Speed thing? LOL

    that, nor some phony attempt at humor courtesy of the Onion doesn’t mean squat when you’re talking about football players.

    By the way, Goethel DID play in the preseason – just didn’t make it to the reg season opener, but the team still thought enough of him to keep him around until after the bye, when he was ready. Looked good out there on Sunday.

    Bobby stated McClain is faking an injury because he has nothing left in the tank. Then I saw a comment you made about him staying away from Grape Soda due to the Crohns (hilarious!)

    thoughts ???

  507. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    JFB,

    I agree. Trading up earlier in the second round is fine. Not so sure about giving up what’d be required to move back into the first.

  508. M Lonetree Says:

    Two score and thirteen weeks ago The Little Popgun That Could played a helluva quarter bringing forth a victory to the Raider Nation.

    other than that he ain’t done squat

    the end

  509. YoungAmerican Says:

    Jason WILL BE the starter in 2011. Al Davis isn’t going to throw away “the next Jim Plunkett”. Nor should he after the way this team has played with him at the helm.

    Maybe he does need two years in the same system. Who knows? He’s never had that. No one can say for sure.

    I’ve said many times that I want a rookie brought in to sit behind him, so at the very least there is some kind of long-term option if Jason can’t get it done.

    But he’s going to get every opportunity to be The Guy in 2011. Make no mistake about that.

  510. YoungAmerican Says:

    Finishing at least 8-8 is critical so these guys can be convinced that Oakland is without doubt on their way up and that they can win if they come here. Same goes with retaining our crop of FA’s.

    ———-

    Agreed, PA.

  511. DMAC Says:

    Vincent Jackson….
    I think someone brought up the point that this dude has 2 DUI’s already and his 3rd will have him gone for a entire season.
    + He might might see some time in the pen on that 3rd DUI

  512. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Campbell is here next season.

    If the Raiders finish 7-9 or 6-10, Al will let Cable go and expect whoever the next head coach is to roll with Campbell for a full season and get the best out of him.

    Or if the Raiders finish 8-8 or 9-7, Campbell is here next year because he helped QB the first decent season in almost a decade.

    Either way, Campbell is staying.

  513. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RR,

    I can see Travis Goethel as fringe NFL LBer and core ST guy. 6th round picks, that are undersized and a tad slow don’t usually set the world on fire.

    Not sure why you spend as much time hating on Rolando, but it is bordering with Mitic1 and athletic QB’s that nobody ever heard of and AIG with Bruce.

  514. DMAC Says:

    RRS,

    McClain>Cpt Kirk

    GET OVER IT!

  515. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders’ rivalries, the teams that I can’t stand the most:

    1)Denver, always will be top of my most hated list, even with Tim tebow who I have a ton of respect for;
    2)Patriots,
    3)Chiefs,
    4)Steelers,
    5 Chargers when they are wearing there powder blue, when they are wearing their dark navy- flip with the Chiefs
    6)Cowboys, this team could make an arguement for top of the list,
    7) Bengals, not a rivalry, I just can’t stand the team, the helmets (either one).

  516. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Larry Fitzgerald said outright the other day that he has made plenty of money in his career and what he wants to do is win. Finish 8-8/9-7 this year and make the playoffs next year and…who knows? Maybe Al can bring out his player-friendly dog & pony show and Fitz becomes a Raider.

    No chance though if we don’t start winning and winning soon. These next three games can start to lay a foundation for the next several years, playoffs this year aside.

    (Though if you want my honest opinion, Fitzgerald is going to be a New England Patriot on Opening Day 2012)

  517. DMAC Says:

    # RaiderRetribution Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 10:46 am

    Raiders’ rivalries, the teams that I can’t stand the most:

    1)Denver, always will be top of my most hated list, even with Tim tebow who I have a ton of respect for;
    2)Patriots,
    3)Chiefs,
    4)Steelers,
    5 Chargers when they are wearing there powder blue, when they are wearing their dark navy- flip with the Chiefs
    6)Cowboys, this team could make an arguement for top of the list,
    7) Bengals, not a rivalry, I just can’t stand the team, the helmets (either one).
    ==========
    No Whiners???????

  518. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders can afford to sit back and see who comes to them with their 2nd round pick.

    They can use the $$$$s.

  519. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    The choice is Tom Cable or Hue Jackson. I know my pick.

    http://www.firecable.com

  520. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I can see Travis Goethel as fringe NFL LBer and core ST guy. 6th round picks, that are undersized and a tad slow don’t usually set the world on fire.

    McClain>Cpt Kirk

    ***

    Goethel = the next Greg Biekert
    McClain = the next Napolean Harris

    Goethel > McClain

    GET OVER IT!

  521. Silver-and-black666 Says:

    My Hate List!

    Denver
    KC
    SD
    SF
    Pitt
    Then Seattle because they used to be in our division

  522. DMAC Says:

    The player rep for Donovan McNabb lashed out at the Redskins Friday, calling the decision to bench the veteran “beyond disrespectful.”
    “Disrespectful is probably not strong enough of a word,” the agent said. “Donovan has handled himself with nothing but class, not just in Washington but as an ambassador for the league.” There’s certainly no winner here. The Redskins will get a lower draft pick back from the Eagles, and McNabb’s market value takes a huge blow. We suspect the move was instigated by coordinator Kyle Shanahan, convincing his father that his offense can work with Rex Grossman under center. It’s quite the leap of faith.
    Source: Washington Post

  523. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wassup DMAC?

    Week 16 is right around the corner and Chaz Schilens will be ready to face Indy and catch his first pass (it will be a TD) against Indy!

    GETCHA POPCORN READY !!!

  524. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    The 2nd rd pick will be a mid round pick. Time for an AD surprise.

  525. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    One’s certainty that JaJason will definitely be here and starting, is contingent on whether one believes Al Davis wasn’t involved in the decision to bench JaJason twice this season.

    I wouldn’t be so sure JaJason is the absolute lock that many people believe he is.

    Hard to imagine Al dumping JaJason after ‘the next Plunk’ quote and with what’s on the roster behind JaJason — but stranger things have happened.

  526. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Looks like the Raidesr are gonna be drafting 15-17. There are some guys who might be very useful to the Raiders who might make it out of the first round, but would probably be scooped up by then. I’m thinking Wisniewski, Michael Floyd, Austin Pettis….wouldn’t mind Al vaulting up 5 or 10 spots in the 2nd round to get one of ‘em.

    But like I said, given what it costs to move into the first round, even the late first…that’s just too much to pay for a team in Oakland’s situation.

  527. DMAC Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 10:51 am

    Wassup DMAC?

    Week 16 is right around the corner and Chaz Schilens will be ready to face Indy and catch his first pass (it will be a TD) against Indy!

    GETCHA POPCORN READY !!!
    ==========
    Wassup RRS!

    I predict a Chaz 7yd TD recption.

  528. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al Davis didn’t trade up for Chris Long.

    He won’t trade up for Wisnewski Jr. either

    2nd rounder is going towards a WR or CB

    Higgins, Nmiller, CJ37 & Huff are outta here!

    McFadden & Ware wont play enough to prove anything in the next 3 weeks, so CB will be a huge need … unless Al makes Stan Routt a monster offer

  529. YoungAmerican Says:

    If it comes down to keeping Cable or keeping Jackson, I tend to go for the guy who gives the offense the most consistency. If Cable is truly just a quality control guy, Jackson would be the right choice.

  530. YoungAmerican Says:

    I’m still hoping that either Wisniewski or Floyd fall into the Raiders’ laps in the second round.

    We’ll know more about the possibility of that after the combine, I suppose.

  531. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Wassup RRS!

    I predict a Chaz 7yd TD recption.

    ***

    nah, Indy has a garbage secondary

    13 yard strike from Jcamp right in Chaz’s bread basket

  532. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 10:56 am
    If it comes down to keeping Cable or keeping Jackson, I tend to go for the guy who gives the offense the most consistency. If Cable is truly just a quality control guy, Jackson would be the right choice.

    +++++++++++++++

    Man, you’d have to feel for Tom Cable if he’d take the team to 8-8 or 9-7 for the first time in forever…and then loses his job.

    I mean, of course, do what’s best for the team and if that means promoting Hue, then that’s what you do. But still, what a kick in the crotch to Cable if it happens.

  533. hwnrdr Says:

    Chaz? ready? Is that even right to say that in the same sentence? LOL…since offseason talks have surfaced here…what about Chantilly Lace Chaz?

  534. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Well Pettis will probally be picked up in the late 2nd early 3rd…. This Draft will be Interesting

  535. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    We have the defensive line to get in Manning’s face past their average-at-best offensive line.

    We have the running game to run right over their defense.

    Two keys to beating Indy:

    1) Bump and run coverages. No zone stuff that week. Manning is all about timing with his receivers. Jam ‘em at the line and throw that off.

    2) Can Veldheer and Walker handle Freeney and Mathis? That makes me nervous as hell, if I’m gonna be honest.

  536. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Cable will keep his Job

  537. DMAC Says:

    I think we have enough talented young guns on the squad. I would trade my picks for proven vets, if you asked me.

  538. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chaz? ready? Is that even right to say that in the same sentence? LOL…since offseason talks have surfaced here…what about Chantilly Lace Chaz?

    ***

    LOL!

    In preseason, DMAC and I made some predictions. He thought Nick Miller would be active and catch a pass by WK16 (correct!) and I said the same about Chaz, even though he was supposed to be back at Week 4 or whatever Cable said originally, haha

  539. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    DMAC Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 11:01 am
    I think we have enough talented young guns on the squad. I would trade my picks for proven vets, if you asked me.

    ++++++++++++++

    Already did that! #92.

    Get the proven vets through free agency this off-season.

  540. DMAC Says:

    Bring in some more.

  541. DMAC Says:

    Always tough to sign free agents.

  542. DMAC Says:

    W/ out having to overpay them.

  543. YoungAmerican Says:

    Man, you’d have to feel for Tom Cable if he’d take the team to 8-8 or 9-7 for the first time in forever…and then loses his job.

    I mean, of course, do what’s best for the team and if that means promoting Hue, then that’s what you do. But still, what a kick in the crotch to Cable if it happens.

    ———

    Agreed, I don’t really like the situation at all. Maybe Al’s wallet will have a few words with Hue Jackson.

  544. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    What free agent wide outs are gonna be out there?

  545. DMAC Says:

    Matt Cassel (appendectomy) is listed as questionable for Week 15 and will be a game-time decision for Sunday’s matchup with St. Louis.
    The team’s medical staff will “take its evaluation to game day” on whether Cassel will get the start. All signs point to Cassel playing against the Rams, but only as a caretaker at the controls of a decidedly run-first attack. Cassel’s return is enough to upgrade Dwayne Bowe and Jamaal Charles’ outlooks for Week 15. It won’t be enough to make Cassel a good option on his own.
    Source: Josh Looney on Twitter

  546. No Mas Diamante Says:

    520.RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 10:49 am
    I can see Travis Goethel as fringe NFL LBer and core ST guy. 6th round picks, that are undersized and a tad slow don’t usually set the world on fire.

    McClain>Cpt Kirk

    ***

    Goethel = the next Greg Biekert
    McClain = the next Napolean Harris

    Goethel > McClain

    GET OVER IT!
    —————————————–
    —————————————–

    Source? Link?

    This coming from the guy who basicly claimed that JLHiggins as the second coming of Jerry Rice…

    Please… this statement is so far removed from actual fact it’s ridiculas. you are letting your personal feelings and wishes get in the way of truth. Goethal has done squat since he has been here. he may pan out. But he may not. Think I’ll stick with Romac until then.

  547. DMAC Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 11:05 am

    What free agent wide outs are gonna be out there?
    ==================
    Nice list of free agent WR’s
    http://www.footballsfuture.com/2011/fa/wr.html

  548. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If you are comfortable with Jason Campbell as an inked in starter for 2011, you are comfortable with another 7-9 or 8-8 season.

    I am not, especially with this RB we have being so dominant, and we need to look to improve the QB position, just like WR and RG/RT.

    If Jason plays well the last 3 games, than you bring him back, but not sure about giving him a 50% pay raise next year as he is scheduled if he goes 1-3 to end a season. (Finished ‘07 hurt, finished ‘08 a fantastic 0-6, and finished ‘09 1-6)

  549. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 11:07 am
    If you are comfortable with Jason Campbell as an inked in starter for 2011, you are comfortable with another 7-9 or 8-8 season.

    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Didn’t say I was comfortable with it, just saying that no matter what, I expect it to happen. Trying to use Al Davis Logic the best I can.

  550. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Man there are some good free agents on that list.

  551. DMAC Says:

    I wouldn’t mind a Steve Smith (NY). I think we can sign him away from the GMEN. I would love to sign Sidney Rice, but I think Minn won’t let him walk.

  552. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Finished ‘07 hurt, finished ‘08 a fantastic 0-6, and finished ‘09 1-6

    ****************************************

    I hope Ray isn’t lurking around to explain why it is Campbell has struggled so mightily at the end of the year.

  553. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Haha Davonne Bess

  554. YoungAmerican Says:

    Nice list of free agent WR’s
    http://www.footballsfuture.com/2011/fa/wr.html

    ———

    Since that article was written, Austin and Bess have new contracts.

    Sidney Rice would be a good option, but the Vikings will definitely want to keep him.

  555. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I wish we had a chance at Austin but that shipped has sailed

  556. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Steve Smith of NYG is having microfracture surgery in the next few weeks.

    I think his career just took a Drew Carter like turn.

  557. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    VJax is gonna light it up, give AJ Smith the the finger and walk away to piles of cash somewhere else….hopefully that somewhere is Oakland.

  558. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I would be suprised if that Floyd kid from Notre Dame is available in the second round.

    Kid is really good, I would be happy to give up Travis Goethel or another 6th round pick to trade up 4-5 picks to grab him if need be.

  559. DMAC Says:

    Santana Moss, is interesting, since Campbell has played w/ him in DC. Has good hands and is a vertical threat, but I think we have enough WR shrimps on the squad already.

  560. No Mas Diamante Says:

    RR – when it comes to Raider personell you have no credibility. This is a well known fact by everyone who spends any time here at all. Just accept it and move on…

  561. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If you are comfortable with Jason Campbell as an inked in starter for 2011, you are comfortable with another 7-9 or 8-8 season.

    ***

    If JCamp was the unquestionned starter all season long, you’re probably looking at wins against Arizona & Houston, if not a few more for comfort/continuity sake (as Hue Jax pointed out)

    8-8 the ceiling? Ford cost JCamp a win against Jacksonville. Also remember that perfect pass JCamp through him against SF that he bobbled in the air and it turned into a INT instead of extending the drive when we were down by 8? See that perfectly thrown pass JCamp threw that went right through DHB’s arms on Sunday? How many drops has Murphy had? or that fumble?

    Jhill was right. Dez Bryant at WR would have been HUGE

  562. DMAC Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 11:13 am

    Steve Smith of NYG is having microfracture surgery in the next few weeks.

    I think his career just took a Drew Carter like turn.
    ========
    Bring him in on a fairly cheap contract. If it doesn’t work…..oh well.

  563. YoungAmerican Says:

    Yeah, I think Vincent Jackson would love to stick it to AJ Smith. Getting paid is obviously going to be his priority, but hopefully being able to stick it to AJ twice a season will sweeten the deal.

  564. Silver-and-black666 Says:

    Steve Smith (Carolina Panthers) put his house on the market today..he wants out!

    Would he make a good Raider?

  565. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RR – when it comes to Raider personell you have no credibility.

    ***

    and who does? we’re fans man. Let me know when a Raiders scout, executive or coach asks you for advice.

    LOL!

  566. DMAC Says:

    SNBPA,
    post 511^^^^^^^^
    I like Jackson too, but…………

  567. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Floyd would be a great pick up but I dont think he will be there in the 2bd round….Austin Pettis will be and I would be juiced If we could pick him up..

    59 Catches 804 yards and 9 TD’s

  568. YoungAmerican Says:

    ND players tend to slide in the draft, but I don’t see Michael Floyd being anything less than spectacular at the combine, so who knows. There’s a chance he’ll still be there when the Raiders pick, but it’s a small chance.

  569. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Jhill was right. Dez Bryant at WR would have been HUGE

    +++++++++++++++++++++++

    You already know we disagree about McClain, RRS, but you’re right here. Dez Bryant at #8 was probably the right choice.

    Plus, no more of the endless “JLH or NMiller as punt returner” debates. We’d have Bryant for that too.

  570. DMAC Says:

    No more rookie WR’s. Bring in a proven vet.

  571. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Rockstar,

    You can call it what you want, but Campbell has never finished a season over .500 .

    Are you placing the blame on the SF game on the Ford drop? LMAO, what about the previous 58 minutes that were Jamarcus-esque?

    And the whole AZ/Hou is very debatable, being that Bruce’s QB rating after those two games and the Rams game was almost double what Jason’s was at that time of the season.

    He got on a nice roll for a month, I would like to see him finish off the last month as well. If he does, I may change my tune, and I am certainly rooting for it.

    But you are what your record is.

  572. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Joseph Barksdale,Austin Pettis,Colin Kaepernick,Alameda Ta’amu,

  573. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Yea because proven Vets have worked out so well. No matter what we do its gonna be a gamble..

  574. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nobody ever mentions the Titus Young guy from Boise on here.

    He is more of Al’s type with his sub 40 speed.

  575. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Titus Young is pretty small…I like the kid alot… Jacoby Ford Esque

  576. YoungAmerican Says:

    Titus Young is a small guy (he’s only 170lbs), but definitely wouldn’t be a bad addition as a WR/KR/PR.

  577. bcz24 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 9:51 am
    Why on earth did the Skins give McNabb that extension halfway through the year?

    I know only about 3 million of it is guaranteed, by why waste the $3 million?

    Even with this mess, they still improved from last years wins and losses, which must tell how bad they were last season.
    *************
    They offered him that extension in August. He finally signed it at the end of October or November… whenever it was.

  578. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    He’s projected as a 5th round pick….

  579. Toyz Says:

    I say go after Vjax..and use are draft picks on OL/CB

  580. YoungAmerican Says:

    If the Raiders can’t find the vets they want, they’ll have to look to the draft. Either way it’s sort of a gamble.

    I think the class of offensive linemen in free agency is much stronger than the class of offensive linemen in the draft, though. At least at the guard and tackle positions.

  581. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Titus young does have some great stats though.

  582. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He’s projected as a 5th round pick….

    ***************************

    If he runs a 4.32 forty as he supposedly can do, Al might take him in the 3rd.

  583. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Post 580….I totally agree

  584. YoungAmerican Says:

    OG – Dahl, Nicks

    OT – Harris, Gaither, Clabo

    Some good targets there in free agency. Not as much of a risk as throwing more young offensive linemen into the fire.

  585. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Why have 2 jacoby fords and no possesion reciever

  586. Toyz Says:

    Im not sold on campbell being are QB but I say fix the OL and add a vet WR and see wat he gots

  587. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Well with this McNabb situation and the Haynesworth deal, it makes me a little more confident that we got Jason for only a 4th rounder.

    SHanny and Bruce Allen certainly aren’t blazing a trail of stellar off-season moves are they?

  588. DKnight007 Says:

    502.PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 10:36 am
    Wisnewski has dropped drastically on alot of mock drafts and is now projected a mid to late 2nd round pick

    ^^^^^^^
    That would be nice….but I doubt he falls that far.

  589. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I feel like no matter what Campbell will be our QB next year unless something dramatic happens. Cable will keep his job and Hue will be here for 1 more year

  590. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I feel like no matter what Campbell will be our QB next year unless something dramatic happens. Cable will keep his job and Hue will be here for 1 more year

    ************************************

    I see that as one of those, “could be worse….but could be better” deals.

  591. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Im not sold on any of these O-Linemen coming out of the draft… the only guy I like is Joseph Barksdale who can be a good RT for us but Wisnewski get s pushed around alot is suited for a ZBS only and has limited upside

  592. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I wonder where Cam Newton will land up playing?

  593. DutchRaider77 Says:

    How about going after Mercedes Lewis (TE, JAGs) next year? Double TE’s package with Miller and Lewis? Plus a decent vet WR who can catch and run routes, but nothing to break the bank. A Gaffney type receiver…

  594. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I say we draft more O-lineman from right wing DII schools.

    Seems to have worked more so than underacheiving talented guys from Florida State.

  595. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    We can get guys from those right wing d2 schools later in the draft

  596. DMAC Says:

    # DutchRaider77 Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 11:43 am

    How about going after Mercedes Lewis (TE, JAGs) next year? Double TE’s package with Miller and Lewis? Plus a decent vet WR who can catch and run routes, but nothing to break the bank. A Gaffney type receiver…
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    I’m just throwing this out there….
    Who was the better blocking TE?
    Williams or Stewart?

  597. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The Peacemaker: LA Gang Wars is the best reality show ever. This guy has done more to stop gang violence in the two premiere episodes last night than the police have in 30 years.

  598. JB Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 11:04 am

    W/ out having to overpay them.
    **************************

    That’s ok, it’s not our money. Peyton Manning is FA this year. OK AD, work some crazy magic. Make him the highest paid athlete period. Bring him to Oakland.

    We all know this will never happen but dream about what if…

  599. DMAC Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 11:53 am

    The Peacemaker: LA Gang Wars is the best reality show ever. This guy has done more to stop gang violence in the two premiere episodes last night than the police have in 30 years.
    ============
    Yeah, I saw that last night. Nice show. We need more of those dude on the streets.

  600. DMAC Says:

    # JB Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 11:54 am

    # DMAC Says:
    December 17th, 2010 at 11:04 am

    W/ out having to overpay them.
    **************************

    That’s ok, it’s not our money. Peyton Manning is FA this year. OK AD, work some crazy magic. Make him the highest paid athlete period. Bring him to Oakland.

    We all know this will never happen but dream about what if…
    ============
    Yeah, it’s not our money and I can care less also, but if we overpay some one there won’t be enough cash to sign others.

  601. JB Says:

    Sounds as though the Washington Redskins are off again with McNabb. He may be available for a 3rd or 4th round pick.I say bring him in and let he and JCampbell be our #1 & #2 QB next year. Let them compete for who gets #1. I don’t see Grads coming back – just to injury prone. Same thing for Frye. Boller @ #3 is possible unless we have a real rookie future QB in training.

  602. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    It’as okay will end up signing Alex Smith anyway

  603. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    DMAC he’s confronting some real g’s, too. This show does more to explain the gang problem than any other show because you can see what the gang is all about. That one gang that started to threaten him, they obviously had no older members. But their rival had a lot of older dudes so they were more willing to make peace. First thing anyone learns watching this show is that the gangs warring the hardest on each other are the ones with no older members. 3 years of that Gangland show and no mention of that. This guy Malik is a true blessing. He’s giving t.v. its first real tour of the hood.

  604. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    JB that rookie would be Colin Kaepernick…

  605. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    What channel is that on?

  606. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    RMR what’d u do to Ol’ Bob? Last nite he went on and on with some creepy rant about finding you…

  607. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A&E, Thursdays at 10, Purple. They had 2 episodes last night. I’m sure they’ll be replaying them all week.

  608. DMAC Says:

    RMR,
    Yeah, God bless Maliq. That episode showed a lot. One gang was full of young crazy gangstas and the other showed some OG’s, that kicked some knowledge.

  609. DMAC Says:

    A&E after the Frist 48

  610. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I read that purple. About Norco. He’s probably just some internet troll but you never know. IF I see some bum in a Raider shirt trying to rush me with a torn soda can, I’ll be ready.

  611. DMAC Says:

    First

  612. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    New Post

  613. raiderfankirk Says:

    Jason Campbell has played great the last two weeks, and if he plays well for the remainder of the season he should be back. A big part of him playing so well is Hue’s play calling. He’s also shown he can have the @#$% knocked out of him and take it. A major plus. The only reason the jags won is not so special teams play. “We had em where we wanted em, and let em off the hook.” No more buying tickets for you Mr. Ford!!!

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