Raiders expect to see a lot of Tebow
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 17th, 2010 at 1:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Putting Friday’s news into Christmas carol form:
It’s beginning to look a lot like Tebow . . .
Tim Tebow, the most publicized No. 25 overall draft pick in NFL history, is expected to play a considerable amount Sunday against the Raiders at the Coliseum. He might even start.
With Kyle Orton failing to throw a pass all week, either because of sore ribs or a feeling within the Denver organization that it’s time to see what Tebow has now that the season is lost with a 3-10 record, coach Tom Cable’s tone changed Friday.
Cable not only thinks he’ll see Tebow running some “Wildcat’’ formations, but as a more conventional quarterback as well.
“If he’s going to play as much as I think he is, he’s going to have to play like a regular quarterback in a regular offense,’’ Cable said.
Two days ago, Cable thought Orton would get the majority of the work.
“I think he gives them the best chance to win,’’ Cable said. “ I think that’s pretty clear, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Tim some.’’
The Raiders have studied up on Tebow in the preseason and on his limited use in the regular season He’s completed his only pass for three yards and a touchdown and has 12 rushes for 28 yards and three touchdowns.
While the coaching staff had broken down Tebow in terms of strengths and weaknesses, second-year wide receiver Louis Murphy has the best insight into his heart.
“I know that he’s a fighter, I know that he has a passion for the game,’’ Murphy said. “I haven’t seen him practice or anything. I know that he’s going to come out and fight until the last minute.’’
At Florida, Tebow’s leadership skills took on an almost mythic quality.
Murphy said Tebow go this feeling across in a way that enhanced team chemistry, a lot of positive reinforcement combined with well-timed reminders of responsibilities and the occasional request to pick up the pace.
In Murphy’s last year at Florida, following a 31-30 loss to Mississippi, Tebow took the podium and made a tearful pledge that the Gators would not lose again.
“You will never see another player push his team as hard as I will push everybody the rest of the season,’’ Tebow said. “You will never see a team play harder than we will the rest of the season.”
The Gators didn’t lose again and went on to win the national championship.
“We all fell in behind him, but I felt at that time that the entire team felt that way,’’ Murphy said. “He’s the spokesperson of the team, he’s the quarterback, the leader of the team. Just to see him come out and publicly say it meant a lot to the guys on the team and everyone else.
“We knew we had one goal, and that was to win the national championship. With him coming out, stepping up and saying nobody would outperform us and outplay us and he wouldn’t mess up, it made us raise our level up.”
Murphy says there’s a comparison to be made with how he felt the day of the Mississippi loss and how the Raiders felt following last week’s 38-31 loss to Jacksonville.
“Right now we know – it’s the same situation,’’ Murphy said. “Our backs were against the wall then. Our backs are against the wall now, and I feel that the team is taking the same approach to this game.
“We’re going to go out, we’re going to fight our way, no matter what happens, no matter if they get up, get down, we’re going to go out fighting.”
More Friday news and notes:
– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain (foot) did not practice, was listed as questionable and will be a game time decision.
Those who were limited in practice and listed as questionable were cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (ankle), wide receiver Johnnie Lee Higgins (ankle), wide receiver Nick Miller (ankle). Those who participated fully and are listed as probable are tackle Khalif Barnes (back), tight end Zach Miller (foot), defensive tackle Richard Seymour (knee), cornerback Chris Johnson (groin), quarterback Kyle Boller (quad), safety Tyvon Branch (shoulder) and linebacker Travis Goethel (knee).
–The decision on whether Higgins or Nick Miller will return punts will be made on game day and ball security will be stressed on a rainy day.
“I think you want to be smart back there and we’re going to coach that up,’’ Cable said. “The most important thing, and we’re going to coach that up, is to possess the ball for your team.’’
– The Raiders and all other NFL teams have been given guidelines for sideline decorum after Jets strength coach Sal Alosi tripped the Dolphins Nolan Carroll this week.
“I am as surprised by it as anybody,” Cable said of the Jets’ offense. “There is no place for it or reason for it. Totally surprised.”
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December 17th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Worst thing we can do is continually blitz Tebow.
Let the four man front pressure him (with an occasional timely blitz), and force him to read a defense and make NFL level throws in the rain.
Blitz him, and he may just shrug off a S, and start making plays outside of the pocket and running the ball.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
I hope that he goes down and goes down hard…wow…falsh back to Madden days!
December 17th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Watch the game on atdhe.net (thanks to Bruce Jenkins).
December 17th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
JFB,
Excellent point. Confuse him with the occasional safety blitz or by sending Brown (since McClain probably won’t go) up the middle. Otherwise, count on Seymour & Co. to ruin his life.
Better be prepared to stop Knowshon Moreno, who’s probably gonna get 30 carries. No way the coaching staff can trust Tebow yet, otherwise he would’ve gotten started when it was clear their season was lost.
In fact, given the likely weather conditions, put 8 in the box the whole game to stop Moreno and Tebow running. Figure Nnamdi, Routt and Huff can stop Tebow’s attempts to throw a football.
Just no more 5 safeties!
December 17th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Tim Teblows.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Tim Teblows.
Haha!
December 17th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
It’s a shame it’ll be raining on Sunday, we won’t be able to distinguish Tebow’s tears from raindrops.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
Sure we will…the rain will be black! The Seagulls will then attack!
December 17th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
If Tebow is in the game you can expect more “collegiate” type trick plays.
That stupid zone-read out of the shotgun, reverses and lots of nifty screens.
Tim Tebow is not ready to decipher the open man of 3 WR’s on 3rd and 9, facing 5-6 or even 7 defenders dropped in coverage.
But I do worry about him getting out of the pocket and having Branch and Routt trying to tackle him in the open field.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
42.DirteeRaccoon Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
33.hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
True and KC could win the next 2 as well. If that happens…should the team lose to KC and have them go in, or should we beat KC for pride and let SD slide in?
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I thought you were a RAIDER football fan hwnrdr? Is this a real question?
December 17th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Hey, just asking because I’ve seen people in here say that…I say win out and if SD wins out, that crap is on us for blowing last week…Miami, AZ, blah blah blah…
December 17th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Rain and mud is a great equalizer. And a mobile QB is a threat in those conditions.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Blitzing Tebow is exactly what you WANT to do. He is not polished enough to spot the hot read and if we spy him he will throw picks. The thing that people forget when they’re talking about his running ability is that he’s not that fast. He has to get in the clear before he can run, and I don’t think he’s capable of getting to the edge quickly enough.
Blitz him up the middle so the running lanes are choked off, make the throwing lanes as tight as possible in the center of the field, and force him to try and get the edge if he runs. Personally, I don’t think he can handle that.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
T-Bone to find out that crying “Rah-Rah” to a bunch of jaded professional athletes who have already seen both their season and head coach flushed down the toilet is a lot different than preaching to some college kids.
As we write, Mike Mitchell is composing condolence cards to the T-Bone next of kin.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Said Randy Hanson
“I am as surprised by it as anybody,” Hanson said of Cables’ offense. “There is no place for it or reason for it. Totally surprised.”
December 17th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Need to send one of the crew that hates on #21 on a mission to find Tebow and convince him that Asomugha isn’t that good and throwing at Nnamdi is an excellent strategy for an inexperienced rookie with a long throwing motion.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Great quote from Jackson on Campbell:
“Time. It’s just time. Everybody wants everything to happen overnight,” Jackson said. “We all want that, don’t get me wrong, but things do take time. As he has gotten to know me, I have gotten to know him. He has gotten to know his teammates, he understands what’s expected and he’s done a great job, obviously, over the last two weeks.”
It’s just hard to get Campbell haters to get on board.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
say, after T-Bone is carried off concussed and bloody, maybe there will be a Princess Quinn sighting.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
It’s just hard to get Campbell haters to get on board.
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If Campbell goes out and has 3 more games like he did against Jacksonville, I’ll be his biggest supporter.
December 17th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
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McNabb benched for Grossman, Redskins players furious
By Chris Chase
The ongoing soap opera in Washington took another twist on Friday as the Redskins announced that their $40 million quarterback, Donovan McNabb(notes), will be benched for Sunday’s game in favor of Rex Grossman(notes). It was just eight months ago that McNabb was hailed as the team’s savior following a trade from Philadelphia and only 32 days since he signed that massive contract extension to stay in Washington.
Now, he’s a third-string quarterback, playing behind a guy who’s started one game in the past three seasons and a 29-year old who has thrown one touchdown pass in his NFL career.
Redskins players are not happy. “The guys are extremely pissed,” one player told NFL.com’s Jason La Canfora. He reports that Redskins players think offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan is using McNabb as a scapegoat for his own failures.
[Related: McNabb's 'cardiovascular endurance' to blame]
It’s a valid point. Shanahan’s ego seems out of control. (Head coach Mike or Kyle, take your pick.) The father-son combination seems intent on placing the blame for the Redskins’ failures on anyone but themselves. Albert Haynesworth(notes), Hunter Smith(notes) — it’s always someone else’s fault.
Why point the finger at yourself when it’s easier to point it elsewhere. Distract everyone by benching McNabb and that will take blame away from all the coaching, personnel and execution failures that have tripped up the team this year. (That’s the theory, at least.) Even though going with Grossman will draw Mike and Kyle a ton of heat, the criticism will be about this decision, not the dozens of other ones that have backfired. They’re using the tried-and-true D.C. trick of getting out in front of the story and creating their own narrative.
What’s going to be lost in all of this is that McNabb has been a thoroughly mediocre quarterback this season. His numbers are pedestrian (3,377 yards, 14 touchdowns, 15 interceptions) and he constantly misses easy throws that can be the difference between wins and losses. The 2010 season has proved one thing: Andy Reid knew what he was doing when he traded McNabb within the NFC East.
[Rewind: McNabb pranked by fan hiding in his locker]
Still, anyone who thinks Rex Grossman gives the Redskins a better chance on Sunday than Donovan McNabb is out of their mind. To that effect, benching McNabb only makes sense if the Redskins have no intention of bringing him back for the 2011 season. Yes, the QB signed that huge extension last month, but it was written with enough out clauses that the ‘Skins could cut him in the offseason and only have to eat $3.75 million as a result. If this hastens that process, then Redskins fans should be all for it. The team needs to start over. An aging, injury-prone quarterback isn’t the cornerstone for a rebuilding effort.
Shanahan acknowledges that. He says he told McNabb that he can’t guarantee he’ll return to the Redskins in 2011 and that his benching is part of a trial run for Grossman and John Beck(notes), who goes from third-string to backup.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
If Tebow alludes a blitz, I think that IS HIS ONLY CHANCE at being successful. He can scramble, or view much easier coverages.
Keep him in the pocket and everyone hold their bellies laughing while he struggles to even complete the easiest of 8 yard passes.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
If Tebow is in the game you can expect more “collegiate” type trick plays.
But I do worry about him getting out of the pocket and having Branch and Routt trying to tackle him in the open field.
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You got that right.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
DirteeRaccoon,
thanks for that heartwarming saga from DC. The Shanarat ship is sinking, the lifeboats are worm-eaten, Ensign Grossman has no lifejacket and there are no rescue ships on the horizon.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Man it is colder than a well diggers azzhole here.
19 degrees (F)! It will be warmer tomorrow when its supposed to snow.
Global warming?
Makes you want to start a fire with a liberal.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Does this fiasco in Washington leave ANY DOUBT AT ALL that John Elway made Mike Shanahan look like an actual head coach?
Other than 2005 when they went to the AFC Championship with Plummer and lost to Pittsburgh, did Denver ever do anything notable with Shanahan at the helm after Elway retired?
December 17th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
I picked up the Dallas defense in my FFL last week just for this week.
Better watch out Bcz, Dallas might hang up 30 points this week!!
December 17th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Tebow took the podium and made a tearful pledge that the Gators would not lose again.
“You will never see another player push his team as hard as I will push everybody the rest of the season,’’ Tebow said. “You will never see a team play harder than we will the rest of the season.”
The Gators didn’t lose again and went on to win the national championship.
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it’s time for Tom Cable to make that pledge to the Raider Nation!
9-7 = the best we can do and Cable stays
Root for St Louis this week. Root for Cincy next week
December 17th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
I think TC needs to make a pledge that he’s gonna punch out anyone that screws up in the game!
December 17th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
23.M Lonetree Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
DirteeRaccoon,
thanks for that heartwarming saga from DC. The Shanarat ship is sinking, the lifeboats are worm-eaten, Ensign Grossman has no lifejacket and there are no rescue ships on the horizon.
*****
Yup, ya gotta luv it!
December 17th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
dbaz09 Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Watch the game on atdhe.net (thanks to Bruce Jenkins).
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Thanks for that.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
More Friday news and notes:
– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain (foot) did not practice, was listed as questionable and will be a game time decision.
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Moreno = shut down!
December 17th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Shanahan= Dirt bag
December 17th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
You People!
Fearing Boy T-Bone shows no faith whatsoever in the pirate ship riding the Autumn Wind. The Donkeys are done and they only try to see if they can salvage something from the senselessness of the McDaniels’ shipwreck.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Tebow on long run = Cable Punching Huff in the Face for trying to arm tackle
December 17th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Let me Fantazise for a Min How much would playoff tix be for a Season tix Holder?
December 17th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
Tebow vs. Raiders = Good Vs. Evil
December 17th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
HMMMMM…….. Will Chaz Make A play this Week?
December 17th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Will The JC from Last Week Show Up?
December 17th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Will The Defense From the San Diego game Show up?
December 17th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
I dont care what anybody Says The Best pick from 2010 draft For the Raiders Is Lamar Houston, with Jacoby as a very #2
December 17th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Veldheer has to be close
December 17th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
If Timothy Richard starts for the Donks on Sunday, don’t be surprised if it’s 75* and sunny….
December 17th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
If the Raiders lose an important home game to a rookie qb making his first NFL start for a 3-10 team, they should just forefit their remaining two games.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Veldheer has to be close
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My Bad I totally Forgot him
Valdeer #1
Houston #2
Ford #3
December 17th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
dhidee
I disagree
Getting a starting LT in the third round who has stayed healthy is amazing.
Al Davis does it again!!
December 17th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Inoneworldraider,
JC is the Raider starting QB.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Plunketthead Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
dhidee
I disagree
Getting a starting LT in the third round who has stayed healthy is amazing.
Al Davis does it again!!
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I put him At Number One dude
December 17th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
‘Twas the night before Denver, when all through the Raiders
Not a creature was stirring, not even the haters ;
The jockstraps were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that Bo Jackson soon would be there;
The nation’s children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of Tim Tebow danced in their heads;
And Tommy Kelly in his ‘jockstrap, and Madden Raider in his 49ers cap,
Had just settled down for a long winter’s nap,
When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
Madden Raider sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the window he flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow
Gave the lustre of mid-day to objects below,
When, what to his wondering eyes should appear,
But a silver and black minivan, and eight Oakland Raiders in full pads and gear,
With a little old driver, so angry and shameless,
He knew in a moment it must be Al Davis.
More rapid than eagles his Players they came,
And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name;
“Now, Bryant! now, Bush! now, Miller and Mitchell!
On, Seymour! on Gothel! on, Groves and Veldheer!
To the top of the porch! to the top of the wall!
Now dash away! dash away! dash away all!”
As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly,
When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky,
So up to the house-top the Players they flew,
With the bag full of something, and Al Davis too.
And then, in a twinkling, he heard on the roof
The prancing and pawing of each little cleated hoof.
As he drew in his head, and was turning around,
Down the chimney Al Davis came with a bound.
He was dressed all in sweats, from his head to his foot,
And his clothes were all tarnished with ashes and soot;
A bundle of something he had flung on his back,
And he looked like a peddler just opening his pack.
His eyes — how they drooped! his dimples how scary!
His teeth were like fangs, his knuckles so hairy!
His droll little mouth was drawn down in a scowl,
And the diaper on his butt was as white as the snow;
The stump of a camel he held tight in his teeth,
And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath;
He had a thin face and a little round belly,
That shook, when he coughed like a bowlful of jelly.
He was sick and tired, a right angry old elf,
And Madden Raider laughed when he saw him piss himself;
But A wink of his eye and a twist of his head,
Soon gave Madden Raiders to know he had something to dread;
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work,
And beat Madden Raider with a belt; then turned with a jerk,
And laying his crooked fingers aside of his nose,
And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose;
He sprang to his van, to his team gave a whistle,
And away they all flew like the down of a thistle.
But Madden Raider heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,
“DHBs a great Receiver. Get over it tonight!”
December 17th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Dakota
You’ve got a great future in hip-hop, dude.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
What is this a Teabow infomercial?
December 17th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
That was pretty good Dakota
December 17th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQriP2jhNgQ
December 17th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
His droll little mouth was drawn down in a scowl,
And the diaper on his butt was as white as the snow;
lol.
December 17th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
After the Raiders knock Tebow’s teeth out and humiliate him and his loser team, do you think he will hold a press conference and thank Jesus for it?
December 17th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
I saw that dude
after someone pointed it out to you
December 17th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
ATTENTION TIM TEBOW
You will love Oakland but bring a baggie for your teeth
December 17th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
DirteeRaccoon Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQriP2jhNgQ
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Racoon, is that supposed to be music?
December 17th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Plunketthead Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
I saw that dude
after someone pointed it out to you
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I just Got Caught up thinking About How Good That dude is(Houston) and got Tunnel Vision for a min. But Valdheer would indeed get my rookie of the year vote if we are just talking raiders
December 17th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
What a nice Christmas
Dungver is a mess
SD is headed down
KC is a one hit wonder
Scatarat is being exposed as the rat we knew he was.
And the future looks bright for the Oakland Raiers
December 17th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Dhidee
It can be expected
Lamar is blowing it up.
It it was not for the importance of a quality LT it would be a tie
December 17th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
McNabb is a third stringer. LOL
Maybe the Raiders can get him for a 5th round pick.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2010/12/17/exp.am.marching.band.kick.cnn?hpt=T2
If only we had this kicker against AZ.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
I think we should trade DHB for some tackling dummys. We would get just as much on field production and, as an added bonus, our dbs might learn to tackle.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Anyone who watched Washington knows McNabb is not the real problem. That team is sorry! I watched receivers, rbs and TEs dropping way too many balls leading to 3 and outs ….And you thought the Raiders receiving was bad ..watch Washington
December 17th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Anyone who watched Washington knows McNabb is not the real problem. That team is sorry! I watched receivers, rbs and TEs dropping way too many balls leading to 3 and outs ….And you thought the Raiders receiving was bad ..watch Washington
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….which would explain why Campbell couldn’t succeed there
December 17th, 2010 at 3:12 pm
Daniel Snyder memo:
overpay overrated Ratfaced coach.
allow Ratface to bring along his unqualified son to run the offense.
make sure that your much-overpaid best defensive player is left to rot by Ratface.
trade for a once-was star QB to be left to rot by Ratface and son of Ratface.
allow son of Ratface to trot out Rex Grossman as saviour.
accumulate same record as previous season.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Raider Ray Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Anyone who watched Washington knows McNabb is not the real problem. That team is sorry! I watched receivers, rbs and TEs dropping way too many balls leading to 3 and outs ….And you thought the Raiders receiving was bad ..watch Washington
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….which would explain why Campbell couldn’t succeed there
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Personally I think McNabb Was Done Drity, But Thats Khrama Biotch Should Came Here When he Had the Chance now he’s really Damaged goods just retire and call it a day Dummy
December 17th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Dhidee,
I agree. Many here were writtenly vocal about nabbing McNabb the past offseason but I could not understand it at all. The man has lost a step and a half, he crumbles and fumbles under pressure…JaSoup for a 4th rounder was a much much much better option.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
McNabb to the Vikings?
December 17th, 2010 at 3:24 pm
DHB actually appears to be able to catch a ball when he’s facing the QB.
If he has to catch the pigskin moving away from the QB or over his shoulder, that’s another story.
Don’t know if or how that ability can be coached up, but if he’s ever going to develop into a real threat, that’s the biggest improvement he must make.
And if all else fails…
Let the great DHB to corner experiment commence !
December 17th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
I think Campbell is going to have to win out to stay the starter next year. If he loses 2 of 3, then what? we start the season with the same qb questions as we did this season. I admit I was on the Gradkowski bandwagon earlier and I was wrong. That guy is back-up material but not good enough to start IMHO. His spark in relief situations seemed to come across as ability, but it was only temporary. I hope Campbell the best and lets get those 3 wins!
December 17th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Do you like Fried Chicken?
December 17th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
74.Just Win Baby Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
I think Campbell is going to have to win out to stay the starter next year. If he loses 2 of 3, then what? we start the season with the same qb questions as we did this season. I admit I was on the Gradkowski bandwagon earlier and I was wrong. That guy is back-up material but not good enough to start IMHO. His spark in relief situations seemed to come across as ability, but it was only temporary. I hope Campbell the best and lets get those 3 wins!
******
We must upgrade! DO NOT WAIT.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
“If you are fortunate enough to spend five minutes around Tim Tebow, your life is better for it.”
Oaktowns the wrong place to have your first NFL start. Meet Richard Seymour!
December 17th, 2010 at 3:31 pm
Don’t know if or how that ability can be coached up, but if he’s ever going to develop into a real threat, that’s the biggest improvement he must make.
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It Can Be indeed Coached Up and Mastered But Is Sanjay Going Over Those Drills With All of Our Recievers. I challenge you To Find One Reciever On Our Team That have This Skill Set I never Seen A raiders wideout do any of these things since jerry was shiped off to the jags
December 17th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Lets all get drunk tonight!
December 17th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Man I miss Tardell Sands.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
I don’t care how nice Tim Tebow is. He is a Bronco, which means I spit on him.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Not only did Brennaman go on and on about what a remarkable man Tebow is, but he backed Tebow against Oklahoma cornerback Dominique Franks — who said Tebow would be no better than the fourth-best QB in the Big 12 — stating that was “probably the most ridiculous statement ever said.” Even after Tebow earned a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for taunting Oklahoma’s defense, Brennaman claimed: “That might be the first thing he’s ever done wrong.”
December 17th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
81.Raider Ray Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
I don’t care how nice Tim Tebow is. He is a Bronco, which means I spit on him.
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You prob would.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Cali state CIF high school football championships are on tonight, and all day tomorrow… On Fox Sports Net…
Some pretty good ball is played by theses kids…
December 17th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Inoneworldraider,
when the bodies are unpiling, T-Bone dazed broken and confused, Seymour can quote biblical passages to him. It’s all good.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Raider Ray, Campbell had pro bowlers in Washington.
Know your history.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
alex7 Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Raider Ray, Campbell had pro bowlers in Washington.
Know your history.
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Like Who?
December 17th, 2010 at 3:42 pm
just cracked open a cappuccino stout from lagunitas yummmy for my tummmy
December 17th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
That run first qb sh!# aint working against a pro D. Who’s the third stringer for them, we might b seeing him before long
December 17th, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
Raider Ray, Campbell had pro bowlers in Washington.
Know your history.
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Not according to Aig. Santana Moss and Clinton Portis were in the Pro Bowl. No your history.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:44 pm
I just cracked open my 3rd tall can of 211.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Raccoon, what’s 211? Is that malt liquor?
December 17th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
I agree Raccoon, JC isn’t the final answer, but I have to agree with those who say he is the best available at this time. Upgrading is dependent on the availability of an upgrade and I dont see who we get to take his place. I do know it isn’t Grad or Boller!
December 17th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
91.Raider Ray Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Raccoon, what’s 211? Is that malt liquor?
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Come on Rey, you do have balls don’t you?
December 17th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Is 211 what you guys drink instead of orange juice for breakfast?
December 17th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Alex Smith will be here next year…. I know Old Uncle Al would do it just to piss me off
December 17th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
OJ and a Blunt for breakfast?
December 17th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
JaJason has made a handful of good plays and throws this season.
His best toss, by far, was the pinpoint laser he threw to JLH over the middle during the game tying drive against KC. That really was an excellent throw, much more difficult than the Ford miracle right after it, or the bomb to Ford in OT.
Don’t know if the TD pass to Reese was more luck or skill, but he really threaded the needle on that one too.
And last week, the play that he kept rolling right…extending the play, until the very last moment…and then the short flip to DMAC as he was getting pushed out of bounds, was really very nicely done.
Just to show I can recognize excellence in JaJason when it is infrequently exhibited.
But make no mistake, JaJason is still JaJason and he still sucks.
True he doesn’t have great WRs to throw to, and the protection he’s been given has been less than adequate, but the bottom line is JaJason simply can not throw intermediate or deep passes with consistent accuracy.
He’s also horrible at reading defenses, recognizing the blitz is coming and hitting the hot read.
He’s also got a painfully long and slow delivery.
One other thing, something that was mentioned in the very first game against Tenn…
JaJason does indeed lean ever so slightly back, right before the snap on passing plays. He doesn’t do that on running plays.
He not only gives away the snap, but he also telegraphs that a pass is coming, allowing D linemen to tee off.
Jason has the physical ability to be a good QB, but he hasn’t been one yet and almost certainly never will be.
Hence the name JaJason.
JaJason sucks and the Raids need to move on.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
You guys are trippin tonite, lmao
December 17th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
#93 too much purple drank if you think Alex the Grate will wear silver and black. Hello The other D Mac
December 17th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Ray, Campbell also had Pro Bowlers on his O-Line. TE Chris Cooley was legit as well. That O-Line, Chris Cooley, Portis in his prime, Santana Moss in his prime = at least as good a cast as here, if not better.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Our rookie class is better than anything Soup had in DC
December 17th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Just to show I can recognize excellence in JaJason when it is infrequently exhibited.
But make no mistake, JaJason is still JaJason and he still sucks.
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LMAO
I always thought his best pass was the one he threw to Louis Murphy I believe in the home SD game, when it called back due to offensive PI.
Good footwork, and he actually used his arm-strength.
That’s one of things that pisses me off to no end with this guy. He’s got a rocket of an arm, yet never “let’s it rip” as Cable would say. Underthrowing flea flickers and deep balls all the time.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Going to the Raiders from the Redskins is like jumping from the frying pan to the fire. It is a shame that Campbell can’t get a fair shake with a team that is not dysfunctional.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
The LT in Washington was a Pro Bowler, yet they still were in top of the league in sacks allowed.
Don’t forget Portis as well. I think he had over 1,500 yards one year with Campbell.
December 17th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Im telling you were gonna end up wit Alex (Small Hands Smith) and Matt (Heartless) Leinart
December 17th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Scored two tickets to the New Mexico Bowl tomorrow, and only had to donate blood to get them.
Going to go root for BYU to lose.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Our quarterbacks next year will be Jason Campbell, Charlie Whitehurst, and a rookie. All the clowns in here will be pining for Jesus Whitehurst all year.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Raiderman just took the mic and smacked JaJason around, yet again.
Raiderman, give us the post-rap-battle interview.
Does this ever get old? Is it almost TOO easy to rip on Campbell’s nice stats = 40% career win record = “I can’t handle a blitz in my 6th NFL season” = “I never met a dump pass I wouldn’t date.” Is it too easy, bro?
The cats wanna know.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
I don’t think there will be a lockout next regular season, but there will be some sort of labor stoppage, and rookie and training camps may be effected a little.
This will decrease the chance of changing coaching staffs, and will limit the FA window as well.
Looks like Hue, Cable and Campbellkowski again next year!!!
December 17th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
105 im fine with that if the rookie is COLIN KAEPERNICK
December 17th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Grads is a free agent. He won’t be back and will probably excel in the Canadian Football League.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
I’m out homies. Gots to get my ghetto juice on.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:06 pm
107, good because the last time i saw a Raider team win division games was back in 2002.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Oh snap, Just Fire Baby runs up on the stage and delivers his own poison! Campbell is getting hit harder than his games vs Tenn/Pitt/and SF all bottled up!
Pro Bowl LT and RB and Campbell still got sacked?!
You mean Washington at one point went with TODD COLLINS (who?) over Campbell because they somehow had a higher points-per-game average and higher winning percentage with Collins? Yikes.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
When was the last time we had hope for a winning record let alone a play off spot????? Keep on hating and trying to be cute but the bottom line is this is the best year around here in a LLLLLLOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time
December 17th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Grads is a free agent. He won’t be back and will probably excel in the Canadian Football League.
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I wouldn’t bet against it, the guy is like a cockroach. He keeps getting stepped on and hurt, but yet has found ways to start at least one game every season since he has been in the league.
Seeing Rex Grossman, Brody Croyle, and Joe Webb start this weekend will be plenty of fuel for the Bruce FA tour.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Oh snap, Just Fire Baby runs up on the stage
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Spaghetti….Spaghetti…..Spaghetti!!
December 17th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Lynn, this is the best year because of how BAD the AFC has been, not how good the Raiders have been.
Most years, you’re 6-7 and you aren’t sniffing anything.
This year, no one in the AFC west wants to run away with it, so we have all this false hope that we can somehow win big games against top teams.
I think opening at Tennessee, the big game in AZ (for our 1st winning record in forever), the cross-town game in SF, the meltdown in Pittsburgh, and the choke-jobs against the Dolphins and Jaguars shows us who we really are.
A bad team that got fat against the Broncos, Seahawks, Rams, and a bad Chargers team.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Alex7 is a fool just like Aig. You’re probably the same person.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
# alex7 Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Raiderman just took the mic and smacked JaJason around, yet again.
Raiderman, give us the post-rap-battle interview.
Does this ever get old? Is it almost TOO easy to rip on Campbell’s nice stats = 40% career win record = “I can’t handle a blitz in my 6th NFL season” = “I never met a dump pass I wouldn’t date.” Is it too easy, bro?
The cats wanna know.
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Yes, to me it’s easy.
But I wish I didn’t have to constantly enumerate JaJason’s shortcomings. To me, they seem obvious, and after his showings in Tenn, against the Rams, Chefs, Niners and Pitt — quite frankly, I don’t understand why any Raider fan doesn’t want to JaJettison JaJason JASAP.
The thought of another season with JaJason at the helm really demoralizes me.
I hope Al realizes JaJason is a stiff and I’m fairly confident he does. Keep in mind JaJason was benched twice this year and remember nothing happens in Raiderville without Al’s consent.
My thinking is that Al knows the Raids need to go in another direction and will do everything possible to secure another QB and travel down that avenue if at all possible.
I’m certainly not counting on JaJason being the 2011 starter or even on the roster, for that matter.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Alex 7
Maybe you would like to go back one year and tell us how things are the same???
December 17th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RaiderRay, which of those facts are you disputing?
The fact we have a losing record despite having the easiest schedule in a long, long, time?
The fact JC couldn’t win with pro-bowlers?
The fact he was traded for a measly 4th rounder while in his prime?
The fact he turns 30 next year and we’re still “hoping” he turns the corner and doesn’t have games like he did vs Tenn/St.Louis/Tenn/and SF?
Which of those valid points are you arguing?
December 17th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
All I know is Campbell better look light years better than Tebow.
Campbell’s career record in December: 5-12
And I gave him credit for the one win in 2007 when he played a half and got hurt.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
[...] figures to make some use of the wildcat, Tom Cable isn’t expecting the offense to change drastically. “If he’s going to play as much as I think he is, he’s going to have to play like a regular [...]
December 17th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Lynn, how things are the same:
While we score more points, we still:
give up huge running plays because we’re not allowed to master playing zone defense.
Still rank in the bottom third of the league in run defense.
Still have a very high team salary despite not being very good.
Still have a losing record.
Still have no legit QB that can be counted on to at least perform somewhat average against top defenses.
Still have no #1 WR.
Still have a weak right side of the O-Line.
Still have communication breakdowns in the secondary.
We have a better pass-rush though.
But we don’t have a 1st rounder this year.
We are beating bad teams, unlike in previous years where we couldn’t even do that. So I guess that’s nice.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Over/under on actual attendance on Sunday:
30,385
December 17th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Raiderman, that’s been a fun study in psychology this year.
The ability for some fans to point at Jason’s good games, and quickly forget his debacles in 4 out of his 9 starts, as if those have NOTHING to do with our losing record.
As if Jason will somehow magically improve next year at the “young” age of 30.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Shanahan goes to DC kickin Assz. He’s in charge.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Under
December 17th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
We make fun of Alex Smith while he…
completes a higher % of passes than JC.
Has more yards and TDs than JC.
Has been yanked from a game due to suckiness the same number of times as JC.
Has a similar losing career record as JC.
Not sure what’s so different about them. One guy is bad, the other is below average. Neither are long-term answers.
At least one team is recognizing that and not falling in love with the occasional nice stat game.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
23,000 season tickets sold this year. Many of them probably won’t show.
Cold & Wet, great quittin weather. We’ll see.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
I just watched the HBO documentary “Lombardi.”
If you get a chance to see it, watch it.
It’s very good.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Why on earth can’t the Skins figure out their kicking game?
They have been through many HC’s, so I’m sure plenty of ST coaches, a bunch of kickers, holders and they still are missing 28 yarders to win games, botching snaps on extra points to tie games, just comical crap year in and year out.
Maybe we can trade them Seabass for a 2nd rounder.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
Play the Tebow drinking game on Sunday…
Every time he gets blasted by a Raider, have a shot..
Every time he says “god” during the postgame presser, have a shot…
Remember to wake up in time on Monday, to call in sick..
December 17th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
I think Campbell is going to have to win out to stay the starter next year. If he loses 2 of 3, then what? we start the season with the same qb questions as we did this season. I admit I was on the Gradkowski bandwagon earlier and I was wrong. That guy is back-up material but not good enough to start IMHO. His spark in relief situations seemed to come across as ability, but it was only temporary. I hope Campbell the best and lets get those 3 wins!
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WTF????? Who got a hold of JFB’s computer? Or is it that he’s finally seen the light? Better late than never.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Yeah Just Fire, because Seabass never misses game-winning…oh wait
Trade them Lechler for a 2nd! Solves their holder problems fo’ sho’.
If you want an honest answer, Redskins offense has been bad for about 5 years now.
I won’t say anything about Campbell being there
And when you’re not good on offense, you don’t score enough TDs and instead are FORCED to rely on your kicker way more than most teams.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
The Jville loss was a back-breaker, Let’s see if the Raiders quit.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
If the Packers/Steelers/Patriots/Saints kickers miss a kick or an extra point, oh well, the team goes on to score 2 more touchdowns and no one remembers it.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
43.Just Win Baby Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
If the Raiders lose an important home game to a rookie qb making his first NFL start for a 3-10 team, they should just forefit their remaining two games.
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If they somehow lose to Denver this weekend and then lose to Indy, then Cable is gone and Hue will take over as the HC.
If Cable wins this week and beats Indy, then he should be safe from the chopping block.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Another comment I’d like to address towards the JaJason supporters around here…
I think JaJason has been given undue credit for whatever success the Raids had this year.
Not saying he’s played horribly in the games we won. He hasn’t. But there hasn’t been one game where I thought to myself “wow! this guy is a player, someone to build around”.
At his best, JaJason has been an adequate game manager and little more.
At his worst he’s been absolutely horrendous. I mean, we’re talking JaMoron horrendous.
And keep in mind we’re talking 5 games horrendous.
OK, since he was yanked against the Rams, and played 2 good minutes against KC — 4.4 games horrendous.
As far as I’m concerned the Raids can win out the rest of the way, but unless Campbell shows me something in his own play the next 3 games, my opinion of him won’t change.
I won’t confuse team performance with Campbell’s individual performance or unfairly judge his merits one way or the other.
JaJason is really going to have to show me something to make me forget the 5 stinkers he put down thus far in 2010.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
KK, any chance Hue Jackson’s system is too good against mediocre teams to allow them to quit?
I can’t imagine they won’t score in the 20s again and at least be in the game going into the 4th quarter in each of the next three weeks.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
DKnight007, here’s a question.
Whether the Raiders win or lose 2 of the next 3, won’t it depend mostly on Hue Jackson, the defense, and our QB? Maybe special teams?
And since Davis controls those coaches and players on those teams, why would we blame or praise Cable one way or the other?
I’m not sure if there’s another coach in football that has LESS influence on a game than Cable. Either you need him or you don’t, and the next 3 weeks honestly don’t change how little he contributes, and if Al already knows this and is obviously ok with it.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:26 pm.
That guy is back-up material but not good enough to start IMHO. His spark in relief situations seemed to come across as ability, but it was only temporary. I hope Campbell the best and lets get those 3 wins!
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The only time I saw a “spark in relief” was against the Rams, a game he almost threw away. I think the guy is a schitty backup.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
Raiderman, you’re too smart, unemotionally rational, and on point for this blog.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
I think Campbell is going to have to win out to stay the starter next year. If he loses 2 of 3, then what? we start the season with the same qb questions as we did this season. I admit I was on the Gradkowski bandwagon earlier and I was wrong. That guy is back-up material but not good enough to start IMHO. His spark in relief situations seemed to come across as ability, but it was only temporary. I hope Campbell the best and lets get those 3 wins!
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WTF????? Who got a hold of JFB’s computer? Or is it that he’s finally seen the light? Better late than never.
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This from a guy that still has a JaMoron screen saver.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Raiderdebo,
I think Bruce, as bad as he is, threw for more yards in ONE DRIVE against the Steelers this year than Campbell had in one half.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
I nominate post 140 for post of the night.
And I go away for a while to the cheers of many.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
KK, any chance Hue Jackson’s system is too good against mediocre teams to allow them to quit?
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I don’t see the connection between systems & quitting.
But the Raiders did lose to the 49ers, Cardinals, Jville
December 17th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
WTF????? Who got a hold of JFB’s computer? Or is it that he’s finally seen the light? Better late than never.
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LOL….I think you got JWB mixed up with JFB.
But hey I did call Bruce a coackroach about an hour ago!!
December 17th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
Jani missed field goal has a bad odor. 0-fer niner game has a bad odor. Miami game has a bad odor. And it’s come back to stank the Raiders. It’s that simple.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Difference between JC and Smith? Same difference that he would have with Russell…
December 17th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
I had the BO “Hope” poster (you know the one with the crazy colors) only it had Bruce’s bald-headed mug on it saved to my desktop for a long time.
Early this year, I decided to make it my background. Than around week 8, I switched off that, and just kept it saved to my desktop.
The other day I deleted it, but I still haven’t emptied my recycle bin yet. Just can’t muster up the strength yet.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Hey, you lose to SF and AZ and you’ve got to be honest and say ‘this team doesn’t deserve to make the playoffs’.
If we don’t make it, those are the two games that broke our back.
No shame in losing to Pitt, Jax or Mia.
But SF and AZ ? C’mon.
Negates the sweep of SD.
December 17th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Here’s the thing…Raiders win the next 3…whether or not KC nor SD loses on more prior to Jan 3rd…I will be happy because it ended the losing season streak! If that only translates to (as MR said earlier) that it will be a disappointment for the Raiders next year…then I’ll be pissed because team should be moving forward! Whether it is Cable, HuJax, Marshall, Al or Campbell…its all the same!
Now if the Raiders lose Sunday…all bets are off!
December 17th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
alex7,
I truly hope that you do not coach football player. YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT TALENT IS.
DumB with a capital B…lol
December 17th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Well, does anyone in the NFC West deserve to be in there? possibly a 7-9 team…has that ever happened before?
December 17th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
To say that Campbell can’t improve next year with a better oline and better WR’s is plan stupid. He actually improved as a QB every year he was in Washington.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Al Davis
and his gm 
need to do as good as a job in next years draft as they did last year and we will be over the hump and ready for the 2011 season. We are that close 
Shore up the defensive secondary, an o-lineman or two, and we’ll be all right 
and mr. green 
will be a happy fellow.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Somewhere in Alameda, Al already has Cam’s dad on speed dial and is prepared to tell him 150k is nothing compared to the riches AD Football Inc. is prepared to bestow upon the Newtons in return for Cam’s services.
Cam might turn out to be another JaMoron (although I doubt it and think he’s the real deal), but I truly believe Al is nefariously plotting to bring Cam to Oaktown for one final shot at restoring the Raidahs to their rightful place atop the NFL.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Campbell’’s getting better, solid play, makes plays with his legs, careful with the ball………….84.4 rating……
You don’t master offenses overnight. Dude’s never played in the same offense 2 years in a row.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Cam Newton would be interesting, but would he go in round one?
December 17th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
JaRAIDERMANN,
How does Davis get Cam Newton here, trade Dmac?
December 17th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
No to trading DMac!
December 17th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
Campbell’’s getting better, solid play, makes plays with his legs, careful with the ball………….84.4 rating……
You don’t master offenses overnight. Dude’s never played in the same offense 2 years in a row.
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Seems obvious doesn’t it KK??? This is why we all know that Alex7 is clueless and couldn’t find talent for a flag football team.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
I say Dmac, because he’s our only trade-able 1st rd commodity, with Bush standing by.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
And Al Davis WILL get into the 1st round
December 17th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
I have begun to think JC will be all right, but it is imperative that Mr. Hue stays as OC. I did not think much of JC after the Tenn and STL game, or the 0-fer game, or most of the KC game, or the Pitt game, but he has shown some spark and competence at times and will have the entire off-season to get better, with Mr. Hue at his side. We will know early next season if he worked hard in the off season.
Tom Cable will need to get some sleep, some r & r, chill and go shopping for a new shirt, but when he comes back revived and refreshed, he’ll be better too.
But hey, season ain’t over yet.
Oakland 51
Tebow 3
December 17th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
161.hwnrdr Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
No to trading DMac!
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NO TO TRADING DMAC!
(you have to imagine screaming that as loud as possible for Al to hear)
December 17th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
I expect the Raids first pick owned by the Pats this year will be about nbr 15.
Since NE loves stockpiling picks Al will come at them and offer our 2012 nbr 1 plus whatever other assorted goodies (another 2nd ?) are necessary to get back the pick we already gave them for Seymour.
So in the end, it’s Seymour and Cam for 2 number ones plus some other incentives.
Mortgaging the future ? Perhaps.
But as George Allen used to say: “The future is now !”
Plus Al knows he’s mortal and time is running out.
So WTF ?
If Cam lasts til the mid first and Al can find a way, Newt’s gonna be a Raider.
No way Davis can resist this kid’s physical prowess. Truly looks like a man amongst boys.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
DaRayduh, anybody,
Can you think of another package Davis could put together to get into the 1st round?
December 17th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Watching the Heat-Knicks game and there is no Anthony Randolph in sight.
I remember being ridiculed on here for wanting him to be traded from the W’s and saying he will be out of the league in 4 years playing for the Globetrotters.
I guess I would have made fun of me too. 2 years is much more like it.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
If we are picking in the 40’s, it won’t take too much to get into the 20’s from there. Maybe a 3rd and 5th this year and 5th the year after.
But getting into the teens? Forget about it, not happening.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Al will get into the 1st round somehow…Alot of the mock drafts have the niners picking up Cam Newton….
December 17th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Do you think Al will jump on Newton though?
December 17th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
168.KoolKell Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
DaRayduh, anybody,
Can you think of another package Davis could put together to get into the 1st round?
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Don’t need the first round. To much of a sacrifice to get it. We’ll do fine with who we get (defense secondary and o-line). Team has enough talent to get into next season, more maturity next year.
Unless Al can buy a pick.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Al loves the 1st round…Has he ever not picked in the 1st round?
December 17th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
I pretty much agree with you. But, I’ve been watching Al Davis over 40 years. He will get into the 1st round.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
KK, I would just hate to see anybody we got who is good be packaged up for a round pick. I can’t say the sacrifice (loss) would be worth the gain (gamble).
December 17th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
I just think that Cam Newton is gonna have alot to learn before he plays…Maybe he sits behind Campbell and Hue teaches him up next year
December 17th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
I say we go for the mans Cam Newton…..Colin Kaepernick he has a better arm and might be faster…His stats are Newton esque
December 17th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
**Poor Mans Cam Newton
December 17th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
It’s either Campbell next year, who’s showing progress. Or, they start over with another reject and his problems. Because all those rejects have their own set of problems.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
I believe Al will get into the first round even if he has to overpay to do it.
Provided there’s a player he really covets.
And I think Newton is just such a talent.
Yeah, his pure passing ability and accuracy are questionable, but there’s no questioning his ability to extend a play, scramble, or physical prowess.
If his throwing ability turns out to be anywhere near the rest of his game we’re talking franchise player and hall of fame.
Precisely the type of guy Davis will do everything possible to bring into the fold.
Don’t know if the Raids have the ammo to get the deal done but you can bet AD is sure as hell gonna try.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
I live in Reno and have seen alot of Kaepernick.
Two years ago I was calling him a poor man’s Vince Young.
He’s worth a flyer in the mid rounds. Has a big arm but also a very long and slow delivery and inconsistent accuracy.
Also has issues with ball security as evidenced by the Hawaii game this year, and some other lackadaisical plays I’ve seen him make.
Definitely an interesting prospect though.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
I love Kaepernicks Passion.. His accuracy has seemed to get better and Flacco also had a real slow delivery when he was drafted and Hue helped with that..It would be worth a mid/late round pick..
December 17th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
If Newton does well in the Championship there is no way Al will be able to stop himself from going for it.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
That is what worries me most about this team. Start over with a new HC, OC etc. Get a new qb project. Trade a top guy or two for a first round gamble. Won’t work.
We’ve built something the last two years, and this year some of that building showed. Have a ways to go, but are getting there. We wern’t that far away from 9-4, and I know the argument can be made we had the weak nfc west and wet the bed, but losses should only stir the hunger for these younger guys and next year will be the test.
Keep Cable and co., keep JC and crew. If we crap next year, can them all. With fireworks to boot.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
We will keep Cable and Hue(Unless Hue Signs with Cincy) and JC will be startin here next year, but I dont see anything wrong with drafting a QB and seeing if Hue can teach him stuff.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
One other name I want to throw into the QB derby that’s rarely been mentioned and one that I think might be a mistake the overlook.
That would be Kellen Moore of Boise St.
Yes, I realize he doesn’t have the size or big arm coveted by NFL scouts.
But he does have all the other intangibles.
He’s accurate as hell, and if you saw the bomb he threw in the dying moments of regulation against NV, you have to wonder if the weakness of his arm has been exaggerated. That puppy was in the air for 60+ yards and perfectly thrown.
Moore might easily drop into the 2nd and although he’s not a Davis prototype should be worth considering.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
DaRayduh Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
That is what worries me most about this team. Start over with a new HC, OC etc. Get a new qb project. Trade a top guy or two for a first round gamble. Won’t work.
We’ve built something the last two years, and this year some of that building showed. Have a ways to go, but are getting there. We wern’t that far away from 9-4, and I know the argument can be made we had the weak nfc west and wet the bed, but losses should only stir the hunger for these younger guys and next year will be the test.
Keep Cable and co., keep JC and crew. If we crap next year, can them all. With fireworks to boot.
Mcclain Houston Veldheer Ford Goethel JCampbell Wimbley Hue Jackson Keeping Cable not trading Huff or Bush, Al made all the right moves last offseason, he’ll keep the team together unless Hue leaves in which case plenty of capable OC’s out there, gotta keep the coach over the OC
December 17th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Moore will be a 3rd round pick but I really like him….Kinda short though
December 17th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I think hue Jackson would do well developing newton behind Campbell
look I’ve supported grads BUT he’s out gotta get behind the Campbell train
as far as the draft an next season draft cam an these two him an Jason in the same system with an awesom running game an BTW the oline has been playing well of late next yr an yrs to come they can only get better an in two seasons we see cam. Just like green bay an Rogers. Cam will be ready to go
December 17th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I read that it is about 50/50 that Kapernick will be asked to play WR at the combine and other type events, kind of like that Frost guy a few years ago.
6′6 athlete like him would go to waste as a #3 QB for a few years, and we know the NFL is not patient for QB’s unless they are 1st round picks.
And as far as Al doing whatever to get into the first round? Not his decision, the other team has to agree, and what is Al going to offer? He just doesn’t have the bargaining chips to move up 30 spots in the draft.
December 17th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Al is in the crunch time of his life right now. He can’t mortgage the farm right now for the future. He has to load up on defense in the secondary, load the o-line, and all the other players are in place. Those players he can get in the draft if he does his homework like he did last draft. Not sure about DHB tho. I told lefty I wouldn’t bag on him, so he has to crap or get off the pot. Crunch time for him too.
December 17th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
I don’t know….if Cable’s more valuable than Hue Jackson. I think not.
December 17th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Folks you can’t put up the passing yards they did in jax an not give credit to the oline
December 17th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Veldheer & Gallery have a good thing going on the left side. Pretty good O-line play, Campbell seems to have time…1000yd rusher, hey.
December 17th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
193.KoolKell Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
I don’t know….if Cable’s more valuable than Hue Jackson. I think not.
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Not saying Cable is more valuable than Hue. Let Hue focus on OC. Let him zone in on that. He has done a good job and will get better. Cable is a good mouth piece and has big shoulders. Gets minimun salary for a HC and is OK with that. Hue as HC would only hurt the offense because he would have to focus on keeping the boss happy. That is what Cable can handle. Cable can take the reaming.
December 17th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
99 I’m a Renoite too, and would love to see Colin a Raider
December 17th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Yeah, but if Hue get’s a HC offer, then what?
December 17th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
r8dercain Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
Folks you can’t put up the passing yards they did in jax an not give credit to the oline
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Good to know I am not the only one who thinks this!!
Don’t forget the #3 rushing attack either.
December 17th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Like I said before KK, Al will have to pay Hue a lot, way more than Cable, and that will be btween Al and Hue. It will remain their secret.
December 17th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Well I know Colin doesnt want to play Wideout and has done alot to become a good QB.
Qb rating of 154.21 with 2830 passing yards and 20 TD’s and 1184 Rushing yards with 20 TD’s…..
Spanked Cal and got the win over Boise St.
(Cal Fan)
December 17th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
GREETINGS RAIDER NATION!
Can I pls tailgate with you this sunday? I’ll bring a 12pack and the almighty herb! Thanks!
December 17th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
We usually tailgate but unfortunately my Raider mates have not-so better things to do on game day. I would surely appreciate it if you will extend me an invitation. Raiderville is nice but it won’t cut it. Thanks again!
December 17th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Yea goto A-Lot row 12 or 14 and ask for Bob If he asks who sent ya just say Kell……LMAO
December 17th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Thanks Purps! Anyone else?
December 17th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
As far as most pressing needs, here’s how I see it:
1.) RG/RT – Possible targets could be FA RGs Harvey Dahl or Carl Nicks, and FA OTs Ryan Harris and Tyson Clabo. RT Jared Gaither could be a less expensive option in free agency, but it remains to be seen how healthy he is. In the draft, Darrius Morris from Temple could be available in the second round. Versatile enough to play OG or RT.
2.) #2 CB – Every great Raiders team has had two good CBs. Brown/Thomas, Hayes/Haynes, Woodson/Allen. Sign FA CB Jonathan Joseph, or go for the top man-coverage CB in the second or third round. Davon House from New Mexico State would be a possible target.
3.) WR – Either a veteran like Vincent Jackson or Sidney Rice, or a big-time rookie WR. If either Blackmon or Floyd fall to the second round, the Raiders shouldn’t pass on them.
4.) QB – The draft is probably the Raiders’ best bet, unless the Bills get rid of Fitzpatrick which is highly unlikely at this point. Get a guy from a pro-style offense, with a high football IQ and a big enough arm to run Al’s offense. Nathan Enderle from Idaho, Pat Devlin from Delaware, Jake Locker from Washington, and Ryan Mallett from Arkansas are all possibilities.
5.) RB – Only because Michael Bush will very likely go somewhere where he can start (and get paid like a starter). Every run-first team needs a change of pace back. Even if McFadden continues to play like a Pro Bowler, either a big bruiser RB or a small shifty guy who can navigate holes in the ZBS would be key additions. Luckily, if the Raiders have other priorities in the higher rounds, quality running backs can still be found in the late rounds or as UDFAs.
6.) DL depth – Find an NT in the later rounds who could be rotated in (much like Henderson is), possibly another DE as well. As far as a late-round NT/DT, I like Ian Williams from Notre Dame.
7.) LB depth – Ricky Brown should not be the backup MLB, and Thomas Howard is likely a goner.
December 17th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
I can see us going after Mallet
December 17th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Yeah, Mallett is an Al Davis-style pick. I’m not really sold on him, but I could see it happening.
December 17th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Im not sold to either…I’ve seen a couple interviews and he just seems like a douche and im not sold on his accuracy…. Who cares if you throw the ball real far if you cant hit the target
December 17th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
As with any Bobby Petrino-coached QB, if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
December 17th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
He has that Phillip Rivers Attitude
December 17th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
1 – game STD must lose
2 – games kc must lose
3 – games Oakland must win
That simple (on paper).
December 17th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
YougAm:
Bruce Campbell will be the RG next year.
Standford Routt is your #2 …he’s actually pretty darn good. Still they may draft another CB in the later rounds.
WR likely to be filled via FA not the draft. I glanced at the draft prospects and they not what the Raiders typically draft …too slow
QB? This will be interesting with Young, Lienhart and maybe even McNabb becoming available as well as draft possibility.
December 17th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
With Campbell playing at the level he is they may pass on the seasoned names and draft a QB to groom. That QB will surely be needed at some point in the future because Campbell is too frai.
December 17th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
I wouldnt want any of those qbs.
Routt is ok but not the future and Nmandi is gettin alil old.
There are no real FA Wideouts that we’ll end up signing. Vjax will sign somewhere crazy and Sidney Rice will still be a Viking. Austin Pettis,Michael Floyd and Deveier Posey should all run below 4.4 and are pretty big
December 17th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
We defintley need to draft a Qb this year…Just for Hue to coach him up
December 17th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Austin Pettis mite be a 4.45 guy
December 17th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
You have to watch when your reading stuff on so called scouts online…….Ford was Projected to run a 4.37 and we all seen how that went
December 17th, 2010 at 7:57 pm
Pnut…we’re in D Lot in front of Oracle…usually between rows 8 and 14…
December 17th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Ne1 out there
December 17th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
QB Jon Kitna (QB – DAL)
WR Wes Welker (WR – NE)
WR Eddie Royal WR – DEN)
RB Arian Foster (RB – HOU)
TE Benjamin Foster (TE – CLE)
WRT Chris Johnson (RB – TEN)
WRT Jacoby Ford (WR – OAK)
BN Joel Dreesen (TE – HOU)
BN James Jones (WR – GB)
BN Brandon Tate (WR – NE)
BN Tony Romo (QB – DAL)
BN TJ Houshmandzadeh (WR -BAL)
K Josh Scobee (K – JAX)
BN Nick Folk (K – NYJ)
DEF ARIZONA
D Jarod Mayo (LB – NE)
D London Fletcher (LB – WAS)
D Lawrence Timmons (LB – PIT)
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who would you start on defense.. two players..
December 17th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
our punt return game is average at best;
Raiders should go for the blocked punt every time.
I would rather have a blocked punt every 4th game than an extra 4 yds on every punt return anyway.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Mayo and Timmons
December 17th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
SD must lose one of last two weeks of the season,
KC need only lose once within the next two weeks,
Raiders need only to win next two home games;
then the Raiders’ game versus Kansas City is all that will matter.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
SD has a easy schedule coming up…..
The Chief should lose to my boy Bradford
I have faith that will run the table but the Colts are Super Hungry
December 17th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Just reading a lot of post in here and it’s unbelievable that there is still hating on JC. But lets see how he finsihes the season. IMO he has stabilized the position foir the first time in many years.
I would love to see a lot of Mike Bush in this game. It’s perfect for him and DMC to just grind Denver into the mud. It’s also time to see if Chaz Schilens is going to help us win a game. He was MIA vs Jax and we needed him down the stretch.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
I got Faith in Campbell but he’s the Future of The Silver and Black
December 17th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
******Is he????
December 17th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
The Raiders need to win every game they play and then pray for help. Our last two loses hurt us worse tha anything all year. No way we should’ve lost that game. A fter DMCV’s great run we let them get in FG range on one play.
This game the running game hass to be dominant.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Priest, any idea why Bush got pretty much 0 carries? He got 2 in a row, one going for about 10 and the second going for 1 or no gain and Hue went pass happy.
Also, do you think Marshall should be fired? He comes out with the dumbest schemes. 4/5 safeties with no cover corners on the field (Jags), soft zone with Groves closest to Fitzgerald in the redzone (Cards), Huff man on Sims walker with Nnamdi right next to him (Jags).
Those are just the few that I can remember right now.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
All Campbell has to do is keep doing what he’s been doing his entire career which is get better. The very notion tht he wont is is just opinion which is unsubstnciated bullcrap. He has demonstrated the ability to adapt and improve his entire career. He has sown that same pattern here. If you compare his play now to what we saw in Tenn it’s light years better and improving so why would that trend not continue?
Just because we have some numbskulls in here hating the guy watch what he does not what they say. His last game was his best as a Raider. I expect consistency he wont put uup those kind of #’s of course but I expect a level of play that is acceptable and competent. If not great.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Well, love him or hate him…we all have to ride the JC wave until further notice!
December 17th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
I think Hujack gets imnto a groove and he reacts to his gut which in some cases betrays his head. He forgets one of the most dominant HB’s in the game for his highflying passing game. Which is coming along but not nearly as efffectiove as our two great HB’s. It makes me sick because vrew few teams can boast two HB’s of their calibre. Yet he just does know or doesn’t seem to want to involve both oin his gameplans.
He has to throw short to Ford and DMC and deep to DHB and Murphy. Until they forcew him to do otherwise. Use Bush to beat up the defense.
I wouldn’t fire Marshall no way no how I would allow himm to do what he doing but better. Huff didn’t play his man that wasn’t Marshall’s faulkt it was Huff’s the gameplan was sound. Huff just had one of those games he has occasionally. Yeah next time play a corner in that situation but Huff just had a brain fart IMO.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:41 pm
Guys Campbell is much better than most of you realize because we got him so cheap I think most underestimate what he’s dpone so far. This guy has a chance to be very good. I’m talking about almost immediately.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
It still made no sense to have a corner like Asomugha if you aren’t going to use him to take out the oppositions number 1 receiver, and in fairness to Huff the sims walker catch wasn’t even in.
I guess I can deal with him, but I still don’t like his schemes.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
Priest, I jumped on the Campbell band wagon a while ago, I think the phins game proved Gradkowski couldn’t get it done. The wide open pass to Ford he was late on was as bad as any throw from Campbell all year.
I believe in Campbell and its a shame that his (and McFadden’s) best efforts were wasted last week.
December 17th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
I like Campbell…he has to learn to execute the 2 minute drill better…other than that…a pretty darn good game last 2 weeks!
December 17th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Anyways…can’t wait to Sunday for the last two home games of the year!
December 17th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Hwnrdr, in Campbell’s defense Carlisle’s dumb a$$ ran into him on the sack and you can’t always expect your qb to get a TD with under 2 min and 1 time out (Bad cable challenge and Boller sabotaging the raiders), the defense gets paid too.
December 17th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Guy…I know…I only watched the 4th from when Boller came in! Couldn’t believe that he called that time out on 4th down only to throw that ill advised pass! And yes, Carlisle made a dumb a$$ move! So, yes, that 2 minute drill really should have been a run out the clock drill! However, didn’t he waste 15 seconds under center on that run in with Carlisle? Have to watch it again…
December 17th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Campbell showed me what he had in the first SD game when he brought us from behind. But I can understand others who thought it an aboration. Now his play has stabilized yeah he may struglle still in a game but he is a much better QB than I thought. Much better.
I just want Chaz as well as the other WR’s to start making some plays other than Ford.
December 17th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
I have to agree with that one, Priest…He did look more comfortable out there knowing that no one was breathing down his neck! Switching back to Bruce in the Miami game to me was a dumb move…even though…JC should have come in the 2nd half of that game…
December 17th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
Thanks Hwnrdr! It’ll be my first time to tailgate in lot D. We’re usually posted across from you in lot C. Like I said, I’ll bring booze and more. So what’s your landmark?
I abolutely agree w #241
December 17th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
We’re usually by the big billboard sign in lot D. Between rows 8 and 14. If you’re serious… durbshot@comcast.net
December 17th, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Sup Nation! Got my Rain gear ready to go..
December 17th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Sup 408? Been awhile…you going to the game?
December 17th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
hwnrdr
yes sir.. I always go to the donkey game! I see you’ll be in D lot.. Nice Ima be in in B lot..
December 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Cool…only been on that side once. Hope you have a good time on Sunday!
December 17th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
JUST WIN THE LAST 3 AND C WHAT HAPPENS…HEY HWNRDR,SHOW EM HOW IT IS DONE ON 66TH AVE OK ..
December 17th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Oh I will, Dirt Lot!!! Rain or shine!!!
December 17th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Denver’s D is 31st in the league 150 yardper game. The Raiders average 148 per game rushing. I think I know what we’ll do vs Denver.
RUN RUN RUN and RUN some more.
December 17th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
I am confident that KC will lose again before we play them in 3 weeks…
The question is…
Will anyone beat San Diego?
December 17th, 2010 at 9:41 pm
hwnrdr
where ya sittin? Ima be sec 118.. Plus I have to slide through D lot to say hey to some of my buddies maybe we can pound a cold 1..
December 17th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
I’m in sec 130…usually between row 8 and 14…with it supposedly storming on Sunday…we’ll probably be closer…but…shoot me an e-mail, I’ll shoot you my number…lemme know!
December 17th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
Sorry… durbshot@comcast.net
December 17th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
I’m not understanding the complaints here.
This team is the 3rd best rushing team in terms of yards in the league.
The pass defense is the 7th best pass defense in the league.
Certainly they can both be better but the complaints with the run game and the pass defense seems somewhat misplaced.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Priest says:
I just want Chaz as well as the other WR’s to start making some plays other than Ford.
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Like I was readin on Psd, the raiders should really consider going after Vincent Jackson hard in the offseason, we don’t have a first round pick this year so the big money we would have used to go to an unproven rookie can go to a proven vet in Jackson. I think with the addition of Vjax the raiders will be light years betters because he will open things up for players like Dmac, Zach Miller, Bush, Ford, and marcel reece. I know we’re going to only get better on D so Vj would do wonders, I hope we really make a push for him.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Priest is, in my opinion, spot on about Campbell, which is why “benching” him in favor of Gradkowski was the dumbest move this coaching staff has made all year (and there have been more than a few dumb moves).
He has gotten better and better as the season has gone on, and as he progresses in the syatem he will keep improving. I don’t care if he’s in his sixth year or a rookie, he is new to OUR syatem and it just takes time. He’s working with a line that can run block when they feel like it but can’t pass block even when they want to and a receiver corps that just isn’t very good. ZMiller has been banged up, DHB can’t catch a cold, Schilens is a rumor, Louis Murphy is about as inconsistent as they come, and JLH and Nick Miller are, well, JLH and Nick Miller.
Give it some time, folks. Maybe we’ll upgrade the right side of the line, maybe we’ll add a reliable receiver or the young ones will come into their own, and maybe Jacoby Ford will be who he appears that he can be. Until then it’s still a work in progress. It’s not hard to say that the offense is light years ahead of where it was a year (and more) ago, and with a few refinements things will be more quarterback-friendly in Oakland and Campbell will be the guy everyone wants him to be.
The big issue for this team is getting Nnamdi and Rolando McClain to full strength and back on the field. If those two are healthy and playing we don’t lose to Jacksonville.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
There are no complaints with the run game except for that when a good defense stops it in its tracks, this team can’t rely on its passing attack.
The problem with the pass defense is simple. They’re seventh in the league because they’re not tested very often. But when they ARE, it’s often for an easy completion and a big gain. All opposing QBs have to do is look at the CB who isn’t Nnamdi.
Routt has been better than in previous years, but it IS a contract year, so that’s sort of to be expected. And even now, he’s inconsistent at best. Too often he looks lost or confused (when you play all man-to-man, you’d think your assignment would be pretty straightforward), or just straight-up gets burnt by the opposing WR. He’s also not a very solid tackler.
Again, take a look at the great Raider teams. They have two things in common – great offensive lines, and great cornerback tandems. With how Al Davis wants to run the offense and defense, those things are a prerequisite.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
Priest, please look at this clip and tell me this is not what we’ve been saying for weeks…almost word for word!!
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d81ce913a/Playbook-Raiders-vs-Jaguars
Then look at these stats:
STL 40 RUSHES / 173 YDS TOP 36:49 WIN
SD 30 RUSHES / 111 YDS TOP 27:14 WIN
DEN 52 RUSHES / 328 YDS TOP 38:39 WIN
SEA 39 RUSHES / 239 YDS TOP 36:04 WIN
KC 26 RUSHES / 112 YDS TOP 29:43 WIN
SD 52 RUSHES / 251 YDS TOP 38:39 WIN
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Ave 40 RUSHES / 202 YDS TOP 34:52
TEN 26 RUSHES / 136 YDS TOP 28:56 LOSS
HOU 25 RUSHES / 118 YDS TOP 30:31 LOSS
SF 30 RUSHES / 110 YDS TOP 26:39 LOSS
PIT 16 RUSHES / 61 YDS TOP 27:13 LOSS
MIA 12 RUSHES / 16 YDS TOP 18:22 LOSS
JAX 25 RUSHES / 153 YDS TOP 30:05 LOSS
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Ave 22 RUSHES / YDS 99 TOP 23:57
OMMITED DUE TO ABHORATION – 3 MISSED FGS BY JANIKOWSKI
ARZ 33 RUSHES / 133 YDS TOP 32:58 LOSS
How can Cable/Jackson not see this is who we are??? This is what works! This is how we win out! Period.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Running the ball works, until it doesn’t.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Right, but what Zone was saying here is that this is who we are…Run and run again!
December 17th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Actually Routt has had an outstanding year and doesn’t deserve the criticism he receives on here.When we’ve gotten burnt in the passing game it is usually on the safeties or one of the rookie CBs.
The way people come on here and constantly complain about everything from the players,the schemes,and the coaches must be due to the fact they play Madden or other video games,are successful and think they know more than the coaches.What works in those games doesn’t necessarily work in the real world and most don’t know more than the coaches.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Yeah, but running the ball 20 more times in Pittsburgh and Miami wasn’t going to get it done. People here would just be complaining about the playcalling instead.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
Running the ball works, until it doesn’t.
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Wrong. With this team, you have to push through it if it doesn’t work. You HAVE to look at the make up of your team. We do not have a passing game – we just don’t. QB not up to the task, O-line not up to the task. We have a great TE and excellent receiving backs and one good undersized WR. Yes, mix in the short passing game to open up the run but we gotta give it to our horses DMAC & Bush 35-40 times per game. Great backs get better the more carries they get.
No most defenses in the league cannot hold off our rushing game if we keep hammering. And even if they can, it’s out best shot. The moment we abandon the run we’ve lost.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Routt has had an outstanding year in comparison to his previous years. That’s not saying much. The Raiders can do better, and need to do better if they’re committed to playing all man coverage all the time.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
YA,exactly.Running the ball more often in those games wouldn’t have made any difference,except maybe make the final score closer.We still would have lost both of those games and it wouldn’t have made any difference who the QB was either.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Sorry, this isn’t the NCAA. If running the ball 20 times has resulted in more runs for lost yardage than anything else, you need to try something else. The Raiders weren’t going to win either of those games without a balanced attack. It is what it is.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
running the ball is an attitude…cable is right, 2-3 yrd gains become 5-8 gains in the 3rdand 4th….it would have worked if they kept gping.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
olinesux Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
running the ball is an attitude…cable is right, 2-3 yrd gains become 5-8 gains in the 3rdand 4th….it would have worked if they kept gping
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Sometimes that happens, but sometimes it doesn’t. When passing the ball isn’t working at all, you’re not going to able to run the ball for very long either.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Routt has been outstanding this year.Name another #2 CB on any team who has been better.You dislike him because of past years and his reputation on HERE.One thing the old man knows is CBs,and he likes Routt and rightfully so.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
2-3 yd gains turn into 5-8 …..While this is true,if while we are settling for those 2-3 yd gains and punting while the other team is scoring TDs,by the time those 2-3 yd runs turn into 5-8 yarders,the game is out of hand.
December 17th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
# lefty12 Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
YA,exactly.Running the ball more often in those games wouldn’t have made any difference,except maybe make the final score closer.We still would have lost both of those games and it wouldn’t have made any difference who the QB was either.
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wouldn’t have made any difference….HOW could you possibly know this. What we do know is that abandoning the run got us a loss. Our backs our explosive, all it takes is for DMAC to get past the first line of defense and he could be off to the races…but he needs the touches in order to do that.
If we keep pounding it and establish the run, it east up the clock and the Pit/Miami don’t have the time of possession to put up those points.
Saying it wouldn’t have made a difference is based on nothing. I believe it would have against Miami and might have worked against Pitt…better to go with your known strength than going with our weakness.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
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December 17th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Lefty you are right, I have been on the Routt band wagon all year. His only terrible game was the first chargers game and the blown coverage against the chiefs, but we won both games. He had a pretty rough time vs the phins, but the whole secondary did.
Also, the scheme I hated was the 4/5 safeties. how do you come out with no cover corners when routt and johnson are both healthy? I also didn’t like Marhall not putting Nnamdi on sims walker on his “td” catch. Why bother having Aso if the coaches are going to use him to shut out #1s?
December 17th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
# lefty12 Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Routt has been outstanding this year.Name another #2 CB on any team who has been better.You dislike him because of past years and his reputation on HERE.One thing the old man knows is CBs,and he likes Routt and rightfully so.
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The thing is, other teams don’t use their CBs like the Raiders do. In their defensive system, their CBs need to be complete players. They need to be able to play man all day long, they need to be able to tackle, and specifically if you’re playing across the field from Nnamdi Asomugha, you need to be able to hold up while being targeted almost exclusively.
I do indeed dislike him because of years past. I’m not sold on him all of a sudden discovering his form after six years in the league, and I don’t think it’s worth the risk re-signing him in light of one halfway decent season.
That’s just my opinion, though.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
I see Routt get burned repeatedly almost every single game. He’s a liability at CB. You can’t use the excuse that it’s because all the action he gets opposite Namdi. Compare his year with when CJ37 was taking all the passes when he was #2. Routt sucks. Maybe Ware or Stevie brown could switch to CB or else we need to bring in someone. Our #2 gets too much work opposite of Namdi to leave it up to Routt.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Disagree,what we know is both those teams kicked our a$$.So McFadden breaks a long run or 2 or 3.We still were getting manhandled.Too many fail to ever give the other team credit.In those 2 games we were out played and beaten.Just accept it.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
http://www.manningface.com/
December 17th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Total
Targets 57
Catches 17
Yards 319
Touchdowns 3
Interceptions 1
Pass Defense 8
Penalties 5
routt has been prone to getting flagged those, these are his numbers through the first 9 games. the website I was using to get these stats stopped updating it. you can also subtract 1 td because everyone says it was on Branch.
good enough numbers, but al shouldn’t pay him like an elite corner yet.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
That is total BS,he doesn’t get repeatedly burned every game.Do passes get completed-of course,all CBs give up completions.Is he as good as Nnamdi-hell no,but he is far from being as bad as you want to believe.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
What does this mean?
Pass Defense 8
December 17th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
I think it means he deflected 8
December 17th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
in 280 I meant though, not those.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
What kills me about Routt is he has world class speed (at least he did) but he gives receivers such a huge cushion, even when all they need is a few yds for a 1st down. This tells me he lacks confidence in himself and if you don’t believe in yourself especially playing corner in Oakland, you’re toast.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
If you subtract 1 of the TDs,you also have to subtract 1 of the catches meaning he has given up 16 receptions in 9 games-hardly what one could call getting burned repeatedly.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Does anyone have a site with his stats? I know he got beat quite a bit vs Miami
December 17th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
# Guy Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
I think it means he deflected 8
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At first I thought so too or “passes defensed” but that doesn’t jibe with 57 targets and only 17 catches…
December 17th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Guy,if you remember in the game against the fish,they targeted McFadden in his 1st start all game.Wherever he lined up they threw the ball.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Total
Targets 57
Catches 17
Yards 319
Touchdowns 3
Interceptions 1
Pass Defense 8
Penalties 5
December 17th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
A pass thrown towards a receiver that is incomplete without being knocked down by the DB is targeted passes ie. under thrown or over thrown.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
[Sorry about the last post, it was a mistake]
To me 17 catches for 319 yards is getting burned almost every game. It doesn’t have to be a TD to get burned. A 30 yard pass could mean he got burned and the safety cleaned it up. You can get burned for a 1st down.
That’s about 19 yds per catch. You can take out half of those catches as tiny underneath stuff for small gain. Then the average goes way up. He’s a poor tackler to boot.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Rewatching the game vs the Jags…
Wow…what happened in the second half was a big meltdown on the D. On that run by Jennings…it was close enough to challenge it. No replay of it and the sideline thought that they saw it but…had he not challenge it, the td would have been called back after the Ford fumble…still, they could have won it…ST messed up in the end!
December 17th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
Whatever.You have a CB playing opposite what many consider the best CB in the game,who very rarely gets a pass thrown his way,who has given up 17 (16 if you subtract the 1 everyone blames on someone else) passes in 9 games-less than 2 per game and you complain about him.That is ridiculous.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
195.KoolKell Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Veldheer & Gallery have a good thing going on the left side. Pretty good O-line play, Campbell seems to have time…1000yd rusher, hey.
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How bout the middle and the right.
Which do you think is more of a need? C, RG, RT?
December 17th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
I hope the raiders don’t watch bspn. Schlereth (sp?) said the Broncos would come into town thinking vengeance and will get killed. Golic said his former team had no chance of winning. I hope they don’t see this, get over confident and slack off.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Hwnrdr, remember the raiders should have had 2 challenges. The first challenge was wasted on an obvious turn over by the Jags that the refs magically changed.
At lefty and passingzone, not every corner in the NFL is going to be an Asomugha or a Revis, completions will be made against them. Routt is holding up well this year. If I’m correct, CJ gave up nearly 1000 yards last year. I’m guessing Routt is hovering around 500 right now.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
tabbed as the “fastest player on the east coast” by Rivals.com…had the best 40-yard dash time at the Fork Union College Coaches Combine with a time of 4.126…Fork Union Coach John Schuman calls Ford “the fastest player ever at Fork Union”…
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Jacoby Ford 40 time
December 17th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
There are still a few positions left to run the 40-yard dash at the NFL combine, but they will be hard-pressed to beat former Clemson wide receiver Jacoby Ford. Ford’s camp was confident that he would break Chris Johnson’s record time of 4.24 from 2008. Ford added to that confidence, saying he would run a 4.2-40. He didn’t quite do that, but his run still opened eyes. Ford ran a 4.28-second 40-yard dash on Sunday. It stands as the second-fastest 40-yard dash in combine history (since 2000) and tied former Houston Texan Jerome Mathis in 2005 for the fastest ever run by a receiver. Ford was also the only wide receiver at the combine to run a 10-yard split below 1.5 seconds — 1.45. Ford was a track star in college and ran a 4.126-40 in high school.
Ford reportedly ran solid routes after his impressive times. NFL.com senior writer Steve Wyche observed that Ford was very smooth in his drills. Ford consistently caught the ball with his hands, away from his body. His workout drew comparisons to Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver DeSean Jackson.
At just 5-foot-8 inches, 180 pounds, Ford does have some durability concerns at the next level. But teams can’t deny his explosiveness. He may have been the most impressive player from today’s workouts and certainly earned himself some extra money in the draft.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Guy,that is what I’ve been saying for the last hour,I think just wants to argue.
December 17th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
NPZ just wants to argue*
December 17th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
I know…that the refs forced Cable to use that challenge was just plain BS! How do you rule it a turnover, then huddle up a long time and then over rule the original call…?
December 17th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Plus they never blew the whistle, I really hate zebras. The “holding” on miller was also bs. The one call we got was the helmet to helmet on Campbell. I also think Aso was held on Jenning’s long td
December 17th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
Ford ran with the Clemson track team this spring, earning indoor All-America honors after taking third place at the NCAA championships with a 6.60-second time in the 60-yard dash. This summer, he lived in Orlando, working out with his older brother, a former Florida State running back, as well as Oakland Raiders receiver Travis Taylor.
December 18th, 2010 at 12:04 am
[...] “If he’s going to play as much as I think he is, he’s going to have to play like a regular quarterback in a regular offense,” Cable said regarding Tebow on Friday, per the Oakland Tribune. [...]
December 18th, 2010 at 12:22 am
12/15/2010 – 2010 WALTER CAMP FOOTBALL FOUNDATION SECOND TEAM ALL-AMERICAN: OL Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State, Sr., a starter in 37 of the last 38 games, Wisniewski is the 81st Penn State football student-athlete to earn first team All-America recognition, a total of 95 times, dating back to W.T. (Mother) Dunn’s selection to the Walter Camp All-America squad in 1906. Wisniewski is the Nittany Lions’ 78th first team All-American under Hall of Fame coach Joe Paterno. Penn State has had at least one All-American in 40 of his 45 years as head coach, with nine first team All-America honorees in the past six seasons. Wisniewski becomes the 11th Nittany Lion offensive lineman to earn first team All-America accolades since 1966, a group that includes his uncle, Steve Wisniewski, who was so honored in 1987 and `88. Stefen Wisniewski’s father, Leo, was a standout defensive lineman for Penn State from 1978-81. – Penn State football
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Overview
Simply put, Stefen Wisniewski is maximizing his opportunities as a Penn State student-athlete. The first Nittany Lion true freshman offensive lineman to start a game since center Joe Iorio in 1999, Wisniewski has emerged as a physical, productive and instinctive offensive lineman in his first two seasons in Happy Valley. With the graduation of three all-conference starters from the O-Line, Wisniewski spent the off-season transitioning to the center position after playing guard the past two seasons, including 12 starts in 2008. Like his transition into collegiate academics and athletics, Wisniewski’s move to center has been seamless. The highly-skilled, intelligent and physical student-athlete is poised to anchor and join senior tackle Dennis Landolt in leading an inexperienced unit in 2009. Despite not having played center at Penn State, Wisniewski’s talents and productivity are evident, as he received preseason first-team All-Big Ten recognition from Phil Steele’s 2009 College Football and preseason third-team All-America notice by Athlon Sports College Football.
He has worked hard to improve his skills and strength in his initial two years. The talented and driven Wisniewski also is among Penn State’s most accomplished and community service-oriented student-athletes. A student in the Schreyer Honors College, he brought a 3.87 cumulative grade-point average in secondary education into the summer, having compiled a perfect 4.0 grade-point average during the 2009 spring and 2007 fall semesters. Wisniewski was selected a 2008 second-team ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American, one of a program-record five Nittany Lions so honored last season. He will be a strong candidate to earn first-team honors this year. One of the squad’s most active members in community service, Wisniewski has participated in the Student-Athlete Advisory Board’s Autism Awareness reading program, THON Make-A-Wish program, Pennsylvania Special Olympics State Summer Games, Habitat for Humanity, Athletic Directors Leadership Institute, Athletes In Action, The Second Mile and other activities.
A U.S. Army All-American at Central Catholic HS, Wisniewski was on the field for 748 snaps last year, third-highest among all returnees. Wisniewski is another Nittany Lion with strong family ties to the program. His father, Leo, was a standout for the Lions, lettering from 1979-81, and playing four years with the NFL’s Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts. An uncle, Steve Wisniewski, was a two-time first-team All-America guard during his outstanding Penn State career (1985-88) and was selected All-Pro eight times during his 13-year NFL career with the Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders. One of 10 returning Nittany Lions from western Pennsylvania, Wisniewski should have a significant impact on the fortunes of the Nittany Lion offense the next two seasons.
2009 Season
It was a challenging, exciting and rewarding 2009 season for Stefen Wisniewski and he is intent on making the 2010 campaign another memorable one for the Nittany Lions. He spent the 2009 spring practice and preseason camp transitioning from guard to center and was recognized for his efforts by being selected first-team All-Big Ten by the coaches and media. A secondary education major in the Schreyer Honors College, Wisniewski has spent this year student teaching 10th-grade English at State College Area High School. Every weekday last fall, he was at school early in the morning and didn’t leave until 30 minutes before position meetings began in the Lasch Football Building. He was the subject of a feature story in the December issue of Sports Illustrated Kids, as the writer spent part of a typical day with the standout studentathlete. The day after the all-conference honors were announced, Wisniewski was selected a first-team ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American, joining teammates Josh Hull and Andrew Pitz on the first-team. For the second consecutive year, Penn State led all Football Bowl Subdivision teams in Academic All-Americans, as Wisniewski added to his 2008 second-team honor. Owner of a superlative 3.90 grade-point average, the squad’s highest mark, Wisniewski will have an opportunity in 2010 to become Penn State’s first three-time Academic All- American. He earned a perfect 4.0 GPA last fall. A U.S. Army All-American at Pittsburgh Central Catholic High School, Wisniewski was a critical contributor for an offensive line that was inexperienced to start the 2009 season.
He and senior tackle Dennis Landolt anchored a line that had four different starting lineups in the first six games, but meshed well in the second half of the season. Wisniewski saw action on 905 snaps, the third-highest total on the team in 2009, led by 86 in the wins over Minnesota and LSU. The O-Line played a huge role in Penn State ranking No. 2 in the Big Ten in total offense at 406.9 ypg. The Nittany Lions were the only Big Ten team ranked in the top five of the conference’s four primary offensive statistical categories in 2009: total (406.9 ypg), scoring (28.8 ppg), rushing (169.8 ypg) and passing (237.2 ypg) offense. Behind the protection of the physical and tenacious Wisniewski and his linemates, Daryll Clark finished No. 2 in the Big Ten in passing efficiency and threw a school season-record 24 touchdown passes. Penn State was third in the Big Ten in fewest sacks allowed and eclipsed 500 yards of total offense on four occasions, including 512 in the regular-season finale at Michigan State.
2008 Season
Started 12 games at guard, playing an instrumental role in Penn State ranking in the Top 20 nationally in rushing (17th, 205.8 ypg), total offense (14th, 448.9 ypg) and scoring offense (11th, 38.9 ppg) in 2008. Eleven of his starts were at right guard. The Nittany Lions led the Big Ten in total and scoring offense, were second in rushing and third in passing offense (243.1 ypg). Wisniewski earned second-team All-Big Ten honors in helping pave the way for Evan Royster to become Penn State’s fourth consecutive 1,000-yard rusher (three different players). He also was key in helping Penn State lead the Big Ten and rank No. 4 in the nation in fewest sacks allowed last season with 13. Wisniewski helped the Lions gain more than 400 yards 10 times, including 410 against Southern California, the nation’s No. 1-ranked defense, in the 2009 Rose Bowl, with four games above 500 yards.
Penn State posted seven games with more than 200 rushing yards, led by 334 against Coastal Carolina. The Nittany Lions ran behind the line to tally seven rushing touchdowns in the season-opener, the most since scoring seven against Michigan State in 2002. At Syracuse, the O-line led the charge as Penn State delivered 393 yards in the first half, averaging 8.0 yards per play en route to the 55-13 win. The durable Wisniewski was on the field for 748 plays, led by 74 at Syracuse and 73 against Illinois. Wisniewski was selected a 2008 second-team ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American, one of a program-record five Nittany Lions so honored in 2008. He also earned Academic All-Big Ten accolades and delivered a perfect 4.00 GPA during the 2009 spring semester.
2007 Season
Wisniewski played in eight games and was joined by linebacker Chris Colasanti as the only true freshmen to earn time on the field. He was named to The Sporting News Freshman All-Big Ten team. Wisniewski played in each of the last seven games, making his collegiate debut against Buffalo. One month later, he made his first career start in the 36-31 win at Indiana, getting the nod at right guard. He became the first Penn State true freshman offensive lineman to start since center Joe Iorio in 1999. Wisniewski helped the Nittany Lions rush for 192 yards and pass for 197 in the important road win over Indiana. He saw action on 230 snaps, led by 42 in the Alamo Bowl win over Texas A&M, as he helped the Lions run for a season-high 270 yards. He compiled a perfect 4.0 grade-point average during the 2007 fall semester.
High School
A two-time first-team all-state honoree, Wisniewski played in each of the last seven games, in addition to his debut against Buffalo. He was named to The Sporting News Freshman All-Big Ten team. He saw action on 230 snaps, led by 42 in the Alamo Bowl win over Texas A&M, as he helped the Lions run for a season- high 270 yards. The O-Line paved the way for Penn State to gain 2,519 rushing yards in 2007, with 27 touchdowns, averaging 4.8 yards per attempt, up 0.6 from 2006. He was named to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Fabulous 22 team and the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review Terrific 25, as well as earning All-Western Pennsylvania honors during his standout prep career. Wisniewski is another Nittany Lion with strong family ties to the program. His father, Leo, was a standout defensive lineman for the Lions, lettering from 1979-81. An uncle, Steve Wisniewski, was a two-time first-team All-America guard during his outstanding Penn State career (1985-88). Wisniewski is a highly-skilled player who should have a significant impact on the offensive line the next three seasons. He is one of 11 returning Nittany Lions that hail from western Pennsylvania.
December 18th, 2010 at 12:24 am
Greg Romeus in the 3rd?
December 18th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Brandon Bair in the 6th ??
December 18th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Kenrick Ellis in the 4th
December 18th, 2010 at 12:28 am
what do you guys know about stanford nt fua?
December 18th, 2010 at 12:29 am
That Jax game really pissed me off! The team is really going to have to show if they want it or not these last 3 games! Even if they miss the playoffs because of KC and SD winning out til Jan 2nd…it will be the turning point going into next year (as long as Al keeps the team together)! Let’s go Raiders!!!!
December 18th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Mcraider
the redskins made the playoffs 1 year in campbells stay there. the team had a losing record, he got hurt and todd collins went 4-0 with that pro bowl roster.
collins didn’t complain about not being in some system multiple years.
he simply didn’t choke games away, which if you ask any redskins fan jason did continuously.
when it suits you guys you talk about his wins this year ignoring his horrible career record and his 4 horrible games this year.
if that’s your definition of talent, you can have it. I want wins, not slightly improving statistics that’s STILL rank in the bottom half of the nfl.
December 18th, 2010 at 1:11 am
Brace yourselves! I am sure Tom Cable is writing his post game news conference Oakland Raiders defeat speech at this moment. He will be answering the questions:
Q: How could your team allow Tim Tebow to run for 110 yards and score three Touchdowns in the first half?
Answer: We didn’t maintain our gaps and he slipped through. We had him wrapped up on several of those runs but for some reason we just weren’t able to make the tackles. We are getting better in that department (tackling) but I don’t know what happened? We are working on that still.
Q: Stanford Rout got toasted again for 2 touchdowns and some long gains, do you plan on keeping him on staff next year?
A: Rout had a tough day. When we stole him away from S.F. we knew we had something special (as in special olympics) and we knew he was a project. Yes, he got beat for 230 yards today but he has grown leaps and bounds since he arrived. I am sure he will be fine. He just has to remember to have a short memory?
Q: At the end of the game you went up to Hue Jackson, horse-collared him and the blind-sided him with a straight right hand and knocked him out cold; Was there anything to that?
A: That, ha, ha. That was just us having fun. I like the way he only called 11 run plays in this game and I wanted to congratulate him before he got to the locker room but he was walking pretty fast, so I had to horse collar him. I was going to shake his hand but I forgot to extend my fingers so when I reached for his hand he turned to his right and I accidently hit him. No big deal. His jaw bone is fractured but it should heal in 6 weeks max. We are good.
Q: Do you think this loss signed your death certificate as head coach for the Raiders next year?
A: That is the least of my worries right now. The Colts are coming in next week and I have already devised a rough draft on that game plan. I don’t want to reveal my plan but let just say, You ever hear that saying, “Never hook with a hooker? ” Well we are going to dispel that myth. That is all I can say for now. (Meaning Jason goes up top, pass for pass against Manning).
But if that should happen, I will land on my feet. Look at Rob Ryan, if he still has a job I
discussing how his troops allowed the hapless Broncos, lead by 110 yards rushing by TIM TEBOW, clock mishandling, missed tackles, special teams breakdowns and
December 18th, 2010 at 1:53 am
Are you even a fan? And I may be missing something, but since when was Routt from sf?
December 18th, 2010 at 2:46 am
23 Fabian Washington CB Nebraska Oakland Raiders
24 Aaron Rodgers QB California Green Bay Packers
25 Jason Campbell QB Auburn Washington Redskins
26 Chris Spencer C Mississippi Seattle Seahawks
27 Roddy White WR Alabama-Birmingham Atlanta Falcons
28 Luis Castillo DE Northwestern San Diego Chargers
29 Marlin Jackson DB Michigan Indianapolis Colts
30 Heath Miller TE Virginia Pittsburgh Steelers
31 Mike Patterson DT USC Philadelphia Eagles
32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State New England Patriots
Al took Fab Wash @ 23 that looks like a poor pick now.
Spencer, Patterson, Castillo, Miller, RODGERS??? Hello how did these guys all fall so far??? I’d take any of em over Fab now!
December 18th, 2010 at 2:52 am
I guess SF wanted Rout @ 65, we got him @ 38.
December 18th, 2010 at 2:56 am
93 Trai Essex T Northwestern Pittsburgh Steelers
94 Adam Snyder T Oregon San Francisco 49ers
95 Darryl Blackstock LB Virginia Arizona Cardinals
96 Brandon Jones WR Oklahoma Tennessee Titans
97 Domonique Foxworth CB Maryland Denver Broncos
98 Leroy Hill OLB Clemson Seattle Seahawks
99 Dustin Colquitt P Tennessee Kansas City Chiefs
100 Nick Kaczur T Toledo New England Patriots
101 Maurice Clarett — Ohio State Denver Broncos
WOW we coulda CASHED in big time… behind sight stinks!
December 18th, 2010 at 2:59 am
65 Frank Gore RB Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers
66 O.J. Atogwe DB Stanford St. Louis Rams
67 Charlie Frye QB Akron Cleveland Browns
68 Courtney Roby WR Indiana Tennessee Titans
69 Andrew Walter QB Arizona State Oakland Raiders
70 Channing Crowder OLB Florida Miami Dolphins
71 Alex Smith TE Stanford Tampa Bay Buccaneers
72 Stanley Wilson DB Stanford Detroit Lions
73 Vernand Morency RB Oklahoma State Houston Texans
74 Justin Tuck DE Notre Dame New York Giants
75 Eric Green DB Virginia Tech Arizona Cardinals
76 Karl Paymah DB Washington State Denver Broncos
77 Ryan Moats RB Louisiana Tech Philadelphia Eagles
78 Kirk Morrison LB San Diego State Oakland Raiders
79 Evan Mathis G Alabama Carolina Panthers
80 Dustin Fox DB Ohio State Minnesota Vikings
81 Richie Incognito C Nebraska St. Louis Rams
82 Alfred Fincher LB Connecticut New Orleans Saints
83 Chris Henry WR West Virginia Cincinnati Bengals
84 Ellis Hobbs CB Iowa State New England Patriots
85 David Greene QB Georgia Seattle Seahawks
86 Kevin Everett TE Miami (Fla.) Buffalo Bills
87 Scott Starks DB Wisconsin Jacksonville Jaguars
88 Sione Pouha DT Utah New York Jets
89 Atiyyah Ellison DT Missouri Carolina Panthers
90 Jordan Beck LB Cal Poly-S.L.O. Atlanta Falcons
91 Chris Colmer T North Carolina State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
92 Vincent Burns DE Kentucky Indianapolis Colts
93 Trai Essex T Northwestern Pittsburgh Steelers
94 Adam Snyder T Oregon San Francisco 49ers
95 Darryl Blackstock LB Virginia Arizona Cardinals
96 Brandon Jones WR Oklahoma Tennessee Titans
97 Domonique Foxworth CB Maryland Denver Broncos
98 Leroy Hill OLB Clemson Seattle Seahawks
99 Dustin Colquitt P Tennessee Kansas City Chiefs
100 Nick Kaczur T Toledo New England Patriots
101 Maurice Clarett — Ohio State
Gore, corning,
Wow we had 2 3rd rnd picks. tuff bunch..
December 18th, 2010 at 3:02 am
Justin Tuck, Evan Mathis, Trai Essex, Darryl Blackstock,Nick Kaczur coulda had any 2 of them.
December 18th, 2010 at 3:03 am
175 Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wisconsin Oakland Raiders
176 Nick Speegle LB New Mexico Cleveland Browns
177 Wes Sims G Oklahoma San Diego Chargers
178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama Tampa Bay Buccaneers
179 Bo Scaife TE Texas Tennessee Titans
180 Mike Montgomery DT Texas A&M Green Bay Packers
181 Chris Harris FS Louisiana-Monroe Chicago Bears
182 Cedric Houston RB Tennessee New York Jets
183 Jared Newberry LB Stanford Washington Redskins
184 Bill Swancutt DE Oregon State Detroit Lions
185 Chad Owens WR Hawaii Jacksonville Jaguars
186 Eric Moore DE Florida State New York Giants
187 Will Svitek T Stanford Kansas City Chiefs
188 C.C. Brown SS Louisiana-Lafayette Houston Texans
189 Jovan Haye DE Vanderbilt Carolina Panthers
190 Tab Perry WR UCLA Cincinnati Bengals
191 C.J. Mosley DT Missouri Minnesota Vikings
192 Dante Ridgeway WR Ball State St. Louis Rams
193 Jason Jefferson DT Wisconsin New Orleans Saints
194 Pat Thomas LB North Carolina State Jacksonville Jaguars
195 Craig Bragg WR UCLA Green Bay Packers
196 Tony Jackson RB Iowa Seattle Seahawks
197 Justin Geisinger G Vanderbilt Buffalo Bills
198 Joel Dreessen TE Colorado State New York Jets
199 Khari Long DE Baylor Kansas City Chiefs
200 Chris Myers G Miami (Fla.) Denver Broncos
201 DeAndra Cobb RB Michigan State Atlanta Falcons
202 Dave Rayner K Michigan State Indianapolis Colts
203 Andrew Hoffman DT Virginia Cleveland Browns
204 Chris Kemoeatu G Utah Pittsburgh Steelers
205 Derrick Johnson CB Washington San Francisco 49ers
206 Johnathan Goddard LB Marshall Detroit Lions
207 Joe Berger T Michigan Tech Carolina Panthers
208 Justin Beriault DB Ball State Dallas Cowboys
209 Rob Petitti T Pittsburgh Dallas Cowboys
210 Reggie Hodges P Ball State St. Louis Rams
211 Calvin Armstrong T Washington State Philadelphia Eagles
212 Ryan Riddle LB California Oakland Raiders
213 Derek Anderson QB Oregon State Baltimore Ravens
214 Pete McMahon T Iowa Oakland Raiders
And we take a fat pot head.
December 18th, 2010 at 3:05 am
We missed bout 5 picks in that round and had 2 picks.
December 18th, 2010 at 3:06 am
OOps we had 3 picks in the 6th rnd
December 18th, 2010 at 3:16 am
Fab Washington could have been both Lofa Tatupu, AND Vincent Jackson
Let that one burn yer a$$ for a min.
December 18th, 2010 at 3:18 am
Robert Gallery T Iowa Oakland Raiders
3 Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh Arizona Cardinals
4 Philip Rivers
coulda been
December 18th, 2010 at 3:21 am
Robert Gallery T Iowa Oakland Raiders
3 Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh Arizona Cardinals
4 Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State New York Giants
5 Sean Taylor FS Miami (Fla.) Washington Redskins
6 Kellen Winslow TE Miami (Fla.) Cleveland Browns
7 Roy Williams WR Texas Detroit Lions
8 DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech Atlanta Falcons
9 Reggie Williams WR Washington Jacksonville Jaguars
10 Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina Houston Texans
11 Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami (Ohio) Pittsburgh Steelers
12 Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami (Fla.) New York Jets
13 Lee Evans WR Wisconsin Buffalo Bills
14 Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma Chicago Bears
15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
16 Shawn Andrews T Arkansas Philadelphia Eagles
17 D.J. Williams OLB Miami (Fla.) Denver Broncos
18 Will Smith DE Ohio State New Orleans Saints
19 Vernon Carey T Miami (Fla.) Miami Dolphins
20 Kenechi Udeze DE USC Minnesota Vikings
21 Vince Wilfork NT Miami (Fla.) New England Patriots
22 J.P. Losman QB Tulane Buffalo Bills
23 Marcus Tubbs DT Texas Seattle Seahawks
24 Steven Jackson RB Oregon State St. Louis Rams
25 Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas Green Bay Packers
26 Chris Perry RB Michigan Cincinnati Bengals
27 Jason Babin OLB Western Michigan Houston Texans
28 Chris Gamble CB Ohio State Carolina Panthers
29 Michael Jenkins WR Ohio State Atlanta Falcons
30 Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech Detroit Lions
31 Rashaun Woods WR Oklahoma State San Francisco 49ers
32 Benjamin Watson
Rivers, Fitz, Big Ben, Toomi Harris, Vilma, shawn andrews, Wilfork, udez, Tubbs, steven Jaskson, Babin, gamble Jenkins.
December 18th, 2010 at 3:30 am
Robert Gallery T Iowa Oakland Raiders
3 Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh Arizona Cardinals
4 Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State New York Giants
5 Sean Taylor FS Miami (Fla.) Washington Redskins
6 Kellen Winslow TE Miami (Fla.) Cleveland Browns
7 Roy Williams WR Texas Detroit Lions
8 DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech Atlanta Falcons
9 Reggie Williams WR Washington Jacksonville Jaguars
10 Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina Houston Texans
11 Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami (Ohio) Pittsburgh Steelers
12 Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami (Fla.) New York Jets
13 Lee Evans WR Wisconsin Buffalo Bills
14 Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma Chicago Bears
15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
16 Shawn Andrews T Arkansas Philadelphia Eagles
17 D.J. Williams OLB Miami (Fla.) Denver Broncos
18 Will Smith DE Ohio State New Orleans Saints
19 Vernon Carey T Miami (Fla.) Miami Dolphins
20 Kenechi Udeze DE USC Minnesota Vikings
21 Vince Wilfork NT Miami (Fla.) New England Patriots
22 J.P. Losman QB Tulane Buffalo Bills
23 Marcus Tubbs DT Texas Seattle Seahawks
24 Steven Jackson RB Oregon State St. Louis Rams
25 Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas Green Bay Packers
26 Chris Perry RB Michigan Cincinnati Bengals
27 Jason Babin OLB Western Michigan Houston Texans
28 Chris Gamble CB Ohio State Carolina Panthers
29 Michael Jenkins WR Ohio State Atlanta Falcons
30 Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech Detroit Lions
31 Rashaun Woods WR Oklahoma State San Francisco 49ers
32 Benjamin Watson
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COulda had Soap-a-oga, Darnell Dockett, Nick Hardwick, Max Starks Bernard Berrian Matt Schaub Landon Johnson Shaun Phillips But no we got Stuart Schweigert
December 18th, 2010 at 3:34 am
In the 4th we got Carlos Francis
Coulda got Isaac Sopoaga Jerricho Cotchery Robert Geathers Stacy Andrews Michael Waddell WOW even Jared Allen
December 18th, 2010 at 3:37 am
In the 5th we got Johnnie Morant
Coulda got Gibril Wilson Jacob Bell Jake Scott Mark Wilson Michael Turner D.J. Hackett and even Drew Carter
December 18th, 2010 at 3:42 am
In the 6th we got Shawn Johnson DE Delaware , and Cody Spencer LB
coulda got any two of Nick Leckey Corey Williams Andy Lee Jim Sorgi Keith Lewis
December 18th, 2010 at 3:45 am
In the 7th we got Courtney Anderson not a bad pick for the 7th, but we coulda had Shane Olivea Patrick Crayton Derrick Pope Derrick Ward Bobby McCray
December 18th, 2010 at 3:49 am
In 2003 we got Nnamdi Asomugha CB California
32 Tyler Brayton
Coulda got Eric Steinbach G Iowa Cincinnati Bengals
34 Boss Bailey OLB Georgia Detroit Lions
35 Charles Tillman CB Louisiana-Lafayette Chicago Bears
36 Eugene Wilson FS Illinois New England Patriots
37 Jonathan Stinchcomb T Georgia New Orleans Saints
38 Al Johnson C Wisconsin Dallas Cowboys
39 Rashean Mathis CB Bethune-Cookman Jacksonville Jaguars
40 E.J. Henderson LB Maryland Minnesota Vikings
41 Bennie Joppru TE Michigan Houston Texans
42 Ken Hamlin FS Arkansas Seattle Seahawks
43 Pisa Tinoisamoa OLB Hawaii St. Louis Rams
44 Taylor Jacobs WR Florida Washington Redskins
45 Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M New England Patriots
46 Drayton Florence CB Tuskegee San Diego Chargers
47 Kawika Mitchell MLB South Florida Kansas City Chiefs
48 Chris Kelsay DE Nebraska Buffalo Bills
49 Eddie Moore LB Tennessee Miami Dolphins
50 Bruce Nelson C Iowa Carolina Panthers
51 Terry Pierce LB Kansas State Denver Broncos
52 Chaun Thompson LB West Texas A&M Cleveland Browns
53 Victor Hobson LB Michigan New York Jets
54 Anquan Boldin WR Florida State Arizona Cardinals
55 Bryan Scott SS Penn State Atlanta Falcons
56 Osi Umenyiora DE Troy State New York Giants
57 Anthony Adams DT Penn State San Francisco 49ers
58 Mike Doss SS Ohio State Indianapolis Colts
59 Alonzo Jackson LB Florida State Pittsburgh Steelers
60 Tyrone Calico WR Middle Tennessee State Tennessee Titans
61 L.J. Smith TE Rutgers Philadelphia Eagles
62 Terrence Kiel SS Texas A&M San Diego Chargers
December 18th, 2010 at 3:51 am
Then we got Teyo Johnson TE Stanford
coulda been Kelley Washington Lance Briggs Jason Witten TE Tennessee Dallas Cowboys
70 Gerald Hayes LB Pittsburgh Arizona Cardinals
71 Nate Burleson Derrick Dockery G Texas Washington Redskins
82 Ricky Manning
December 18th, 2010 at 5:08 am
Q: At the end of the game you went up to Hue Jackson, horse-collared him and the blind-sided him with a straight right hand and knocked him out cold; Was there anything to that?
A: That, ha, ha. That was just us having fun. I like the way he only called 11 run plays in this game and I wanted to congratulate him before he got to the locker room but he was walking pretty fast, so I had to horse collar him. I was going to shake his hand but I forgot to extend my fingers so when I reached for his hand he turned to his right and I accidently hit him. No big deal. His jaw bone is fractured but it should heal in 6 weeks max. We are good.
LOL sirblitzalot
December 18th, 2010 at 5:34 am
tebow may start sunday hhhmmm? Don’t know that it will change the outcome any. I expect us to come out and handle the broncos pretty well. I know they’re still smarting after that last thrashing but the RAIDERS are simply the better team right now. We just have to come out focused but I like the way we have played all our division foes this year. Seems we have no trouble getting up for afc west teams.
RAIDERS 27 donks 14
December 18th, 2010 at 5:59 am
Tim will be a little too slow for the NFL. Things that worked in the semi pros will not cut it today.
Look for the run and the short pass. and a pick six or two. They will just be looking to slow the game down and keep us from scoring 50 points.
December 18th, 2010 at 6:02 am
Might as well rest RM and pray its nothing serious or long term.
December 18th, 2010 at 6:08 am
Thats funny how the King is booooooooooooooooood everywhere he goes and not just Cleveland.
I “hate” pro BB and I especially hate the Lakers but I love it that the Knicks are playing well again. I love spike lee razzing players like he tried to do to Reggie and Reggie would snuff him and talk smack back.
Its good for the game
Can Carmello play with Stoudemire?
December 18th, 2010 at 6:34 am
Jerryworld gives us leeway in talking about whatever we want. And I appreciate that. Its one reason I have stayed here.
I admit the BB talk has always irked me
Screw the hollywood fakers however If you cant beat them join them.
So in the spirit of Christmas (jerry, can we still say Christmas) I am gonna get on the BB bandwagon.
Knicks on the east coast and the Clippers on the West
Fakers suck
December 18th, 2010 at 6:37 am
I wonder what is ailing McClain?
I hope it is not head issues like what ail Percy
December 18th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Im renewing an 8 yr dormant exercise I used to enjoy going through. Think of it as the NFL’s version of Chess.
Hopefully I got all the details right….
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OAK as AFC WEST Division Champs at 9-7
Need:
1 KC loss (@stl; vs ten)
AND
1SD loss (@cinn; @den)
OAK as a Wildcard (This is where you need to strap in and clear out the morning fog)….
Generally speaking…3 (or more) teams within 3 or more divisions must tie at 9-7. OAK wins ALL strength of victory comparisons with all potential 9-7 teams when there is a > 3way > 3 division 9-7 tie (not including AFC West teams). Note 1: OAK loses with a 2 team 9-7 tie (with Jets or Baltimore). And, since Balt and NY already have 9 wins, the only way to get a 2 team 9-7 tie would be if Jets or Balt have a 10-6 or better record. Note 2: Any AFC west 9-7 ties with SD or KC are meaningless since OAK wins all AFC West division tiebreakers.
OK, more specifically….
OAK as 5 seed
A. 1 Loss by SD (@cinn; @den) OR 1Loss by KC (@stl; vs tenn)
PLUS…
9-7 jets (@pitt; @Chi; vs buff) AND 9-7 bal (vs NO; @cle; vs cinn)
PLUS
1 Loss by MIA (vs buff; vs det; @NE)
OAK as 6 seed:
A. 1 Loss by SD (@cinn; @den) OR 1Loss by KC (@stl; vs tenn)
PLUS….
9-7 jets OR 9-7 bal (ie one team 10-6 or better = OK)
PLUS….
1 Loss by MIA (vs buff; vs det; @NE)
PLUS….
9-7 record for the AFC south second place team (i.e. creating a 3 way/3 div 9-7 tie)…
Note 3: Indy must beat Jax for this seed 6 scenario to play out.
B. 1 Loss by SD (@cinn; @den) OR 1Loss by KC (@stl; vs tenn)
PLUS….
9-7 bal
PLUS….
9-7 Miami with a 7-5 afc conf record (ie must beat Buff and NE and lose to Det)
Note 4: Miami at 9-7 with a 6-6 conf record will void this Seed 6 possibility for OAK
Aside:
Jax (@ indy; vs wash;@hou)
Indy (vs jax; @oak; vs Tenn)
December 18th, 2010 at 7:07 am
winning the division is the only way because of a lousy conference record
December 18th, 2010 at 7:19 am
Apparently Christmas is not on the banned list (yet)
The Knicks are kind of like the Raiders, the league is much better off when they are good.
Either you like them, and they have one of the most passionate fan bases like us, or you love to hate them.
December 18th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Morning Nation!
Just read the posts from Midnight to now and after reading all those woulda coulda shouldas from DirteeRaccoon, I’m now depressed and going back to bed.
Check back later.
December 18th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Three games left in the season and we are still in the playoff hunt.
Next year we will win those close games that we shoud have won this year
best year ever!!
December 18th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Anyone else doing the College Bowl Mania contest on espn?
I like the “confidence” contests, makes it so wide open.
If anyone has or does join, let me know and we can get a group together.
December 18th, 2010 at 7:34 am
Well I am gonna get on the bandwagon.
Spike looked like a cartoon charactor last night with the big glasses and colorful get up.
If the NBA or NFL wants more TV viewers, they need to take my advice.
More it more like you are at the game. I want to see more cheerleaders and I want to see more of the fans and what they are saying.
I get tired of the talking heads telling us what to think
December 18th, 2010 at 7:36 am
jfb I will go join right now. Its a little too wet and chilly to outside chores this morning
December 18th, 2010 at 7:42 am
One made Janakowski field goal is what is going to keep us from the playoffs. This stuff about kickers not playing in preseason games is bs.
December 18th, 2010 at 7:42 am
Created a group, e-mail if you want to join:
raidersfanlv@yahoo.com
December 18th, 2010 at 7:58 am
Kirk, Sea Bass’ miss hurt but losing to the 9ers in the the way they did was just as bad or worse.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:01 am
I think the Miami loss is the worst. The Arizona game was early, and the team was still developing. But, the Miami game was just a pathetic display. If Cable is fired, it should be because of that game and his love for Gradkowski.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:04 am
Our wins are against the afc west and nfc west nuff said
December 18th, 2010 at 8:08 am
The NFC west may suck but the AFC is not that weak
The discharge can play with anyone, KFC is better then average as well as the Raiders
December 18th, 2010 at 8:08 am
………… at least we’re competitive again which was not the case the past years
December 18th, 2010 at 8:08 am
How do we know Cable was the one who put in Bruce?
I agree it was a bad call, and Cable certainly should have veto power, but I think that was 100% Hue’s idea.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:10 am
Better be prepared to stop Knowshon Moreno, who’s probably gonna get 30 carries. No way the coaching staff can trust Tebow yet, otherwise he would’ve gotten started when it was clear their season was lost.
In fact, given the likely weather conditions, put 8 in the box the whole game to stop Moreno and Tebow running. Figure Nnamdi, Routt and Huff can stop Tebow’s attempts to throw a football.
McClain, Please get taped up properly and play. No one in the NFL is 100% in week # 14. This is not the SEC, You get paid to play with discomfort and pain.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:14 am
We need to treat Tebow like you treat other mobile QB’s.
Keep them in the pocket, don’t let them get in their comfort zone outside of the pocket and scrambling around, and make them beat you in the pocket with good timing and accurate throws.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:15 am
the two QB rotation set this team back because you can’t have confidence in either starter if there on a short leash. In other words just cut it loose.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:17 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 18th, 2010 at 8:14 am
We need to treat Tebow like you treat other mobile QB’s
===============
We need to treat Tebow like a pinata
December 18th, 2010 at 8:23 am
For Timmy’s sake he better had been working on his sliding game because he’s about to go against one of the biggest and baddest DL in the NFL.
Ain’t college anymore son.
If Orton does not play I don’t see Tebow making it the whole game.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:26 am
Haven’t watched much UTEP football, but supposedly their QB has visions of being a late round draft pick.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:27 am
Tebow is bigger than Ricky Brown, if the D-line does not get him down, and he gets to the second level, we will be in trouble.
This guy played in the SEC, and ran over defenses and intimidated them.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:32 am
prediction for the game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJnKm6ftPu0
December 18th, 2010 at 8:37 am
The SEC isn’t the NFL. Tebow might have a few decent runs tomorrow but he’ll have to be able to make multiple reads and throw the ball accurately to keep drives going. If we stuff Moreno, Tebow’s in trouble.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:40 am
The way Orton has played the last two weeks, Tim Tebow going 9 for 21 for 130 yards would be an improvement for them.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:46 am
It’s all about the run tomorrow. If Denver can’t run on us they can’t beat us. We’ll be able to run and pass against their weak defense. Expect a much closer game this time though. Perhaps 27-10 Raiders.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:52 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 18th, 2010 at 8:08 am
How do we know Cable was the one who put in Bruce?
I agree it was a bad call, and Cable certainly should have veto power, but I think that was 100% Hue’s idea.
————————————–
Then he should be fired for not doing his job. He is the head coach, you know.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Like I said:
1 – game STD must lose
2 – games kc must lose (Oakland being 1 of them)
3 – games Oakland must win
That simple, easy as 1-2-3 (on paper).
No other way. Az and 0-fer games the worst. Has come back to bite. Wildcard, no way.
December 18th, 2010 at 8:55 am
Picking the winner is easy.
Rating the game is much harder
We need some more suckers in the game.
Who wants to pick bowl games?
December 18th, 2010 at 9:00 am
Come to think of it I will leave the ratings alone and probaly do as well as if I picked them
December 18th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Sonny Jurgenson? being highlighted on NFL
He just whipped a ball behind his back at practice that went 25 yards down the field and nailed the WR perfect.
He also did it in a game but it was only a ten yard pass
The practice throw was amazing
December 18th, 2010 at 9:38 am
Denver Sucks!
Raiders 31
Denver 3
December 18th, 2010 at 9:41 am
24-10 RAIDERS!
December 18th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Oakland 51
Tebow 3
December 18th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Resign:
1- Seymour
2- Z Miller
3- Wimbley
4- Gallery
5- Bush
Resigning Gallery and Bush is not as important as signing the Seymour, Miller, and Wimbley IMO.
DMC is a Beast, and we can always find a power back in later RDs.
Gallery is overrated. He is a solid LG, but he is not great (PB level).
Seymour, Wimbley, and Miller are great players, and contribute a lot to this team.
December 18th, 2010 at 9:55 am
We need to add:
1- C
2- G/T (it depends on what we with B Campbell and Walker)
3- CB
December 18th, 2010 at 10:13 am
I think Daniel Loper can play some RG if Carlisle is not kept and I would think B Campbell should be ready to play some RG or RT next year.
I think a Center to compete with Satele is HIGHLY needed and the Center drafted may be able to compete at Guard as well and add depth.
Stefan Wisnewski is destined to be a Raider.
The defense also needs a young beast two gap DT who has a high motor and won’t get tired too quickly.
The offense needs a big target TE or WR who is 6′3 or taller also.
December 18th, 2010 at 10:14 am
375.Raider O Says:
December 18th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Resign:
1- Seymour
2- Z Miller
3- Wimbley
4- Gallery
5- Bush
Resigning Gallery and Bush is not as important as signing the Seymour, Miller, and Wimbley IMO.
DMC is a Beast, and we can always find a power back in later RDs.
Gallery is overrated. He is a solid LG, but he is not great (PB level).
Seymour, Wimbley, and Miller are great players, and contribute a lot to this team.
^^^^^^^^
The priority is to resign all those in house free agents.
December 18th, 2010 at 10:18 am
Seymour, Z Miller, Wimbley and Bush are extremely important to this team.
I agree that Gallery can be replaced if necessary by Loper.
They need to sign Bush and then possibly trade him for like a 3rd rounder if they can.
They should get something in return for him if they don’t want to keep him.
December 18th, 2010 at 10:22 am
351.Raider Ray Says:
December 18th, 2010 at 8:01 am
I think the Miami loss is the worst. The Arizona game was early, and the team was still developing. But, the Miami game was just a pathetic display. If Cable is fired, it should be because of that game and his love for Gradkowski.
^^^^^^^
WAKE UP CALL!
The team would have still lost that game against Miami if JC was the starter.
Did you not see how bad the O-Line and D-Line were playing in that game..as well as the secondary?
The team couldn’t run the ball, so you actually think JC would have won that game all by himself with the rest of the team playing like crap?
No way.
Plus the team should have won the Arizona game, but hungover Jano missed a chip shot.
December 18th, 2010 at 10:36 am
264.YoungAmerican Says:
December 17th, 2010 at 10:47 pm
Yeah, but running the ball 20 more times in Pittsburgh and Miami wasn’t going to get it done. People here would just be complaining about the playcalling instead.
^^^^^^^^
Huh?
Doesn’t matter if you don’t think you can run the ball.
You have to make an effort to do it anyway just to try and keep those types of teams honest.
December 18th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Any Cam Newton Talk?
December 18th, 2010 at 11:16 am
I swear if Cam plays well in the Championship good ol’ Uncle Al is gonna jump up and snag him…… I dont necessarily think we need him but Al will do it.
December 18th, 2010 at 11:23 am
3 games that set the Raiders back this season…
Cards, Niners, and Dolphins.
Even getting 2 of those completely changes everything.
December 18th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Al has his QB and Campbell seems to be getting better as the season progresses.
He has never had consecutive years in the same offensive system. Next year will be the first.
I like where this team is going. The addition of a veteran WR and a few upgrades along the O-line and this team will be special.
I even anticipate a much improved defensive backfield next year.
December 18th, 2010 at 11:33 am
What Veteran Wideout?
December 18th, 2010 at 11:37 am
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 18th, 2010 at 11:33 am
What Veteran Wideout?
….
Don’t know. Just think Al will be looking.
December 18th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Theres gonna be some good names out there but there all gonna get taken quickly
December 18th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Ne1 out there????…….. At work Bored
December 18th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Guys having yourselves a little mock draft, huh? That’s a pretty off season topic for a bunch of guys who still believe we’re in it. I mean, you’d think people would be breaking down the big game tomorrow. I mean, this is huge. It’s the Super Bowl. We still have a chance. Right? Nope. So, who’s on the clock?
December 18th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
RMR man u make me so happy
December 18th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
Getting to the playoffs isnt impossible but highly unlikely.. We have mad some good moves this last year but need to make some more to actually become a real contender
December 18th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
*Made
December 18th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Tebow will be ” Blessed” by the Raiders front four tomorrow…
Beat the Donkz…
August 16th, 2011 at 4:18 am
divorce rights…
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