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Raiders expect to see a lot of Tebow

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, December 17th, 2010 at 1:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Putting Friday’s news into Christmas carol form:

It’s beginning to look a lot like Tebow . . .

Tim Tebow, the most publicized No. 25 overall draft pick in NFL history, is expected to play a considerable amount Sunday against the Raiders at the Coliseum. He might even start.

With Kyle Orton failing to throw a pass all week, either because of sore ribs or a feeling within the Denver organization that it’s time to see what Tebow has now that the season is lost with a 3-10 record, coach Tom Cable’s tone changed Friday.

Cable not only thinks he’ll see Tebow running some “Wildcat’’ formations, but as a more conventional quarterback as well.

“If he’s going to play as much as I think he is, he’s going to have to play like a regular quarterback in a regular offense,’’ Cable said.

Two days ago, Cable thought Orton would get the majority of the work.

“I think he gives them the best chance to win,’’ Cable said. “ I think that’s pretty clear, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Tim some.’’

The Raiders have studied up on Tebow in the preseason and on his limited use in the regular season He’s completed his only pass for three yards and a touchdown and has 12 rushes for 28 yards and three touchdowns.

While the coaching staff had broken down Tebow in terms of strengths and weaknesses, second-year wide receiver Louis Murphy has the best insight into his heart.

“I know that he’s a fighter, I know that he has a passion for the game,’’ Murphy said. “I haven’t seen him practice or anything. I know that he’s going to come out and fight until the last minute.’’

At Florida, Tebow’s leadership skills took on an almost mythic quality.

Murphy said Tebow go this feeling across in a way that enhanced team chemistry, a lot of positive reinforcement combined with well-timed reminders of responsibilities and the occasional request to pick up the pace.

In Murphy’s last year at Florida, following a 31-30 loss to Mississippi, Tebow took the podium and made a tearful pledge that the Gators would not lose again.

“You will never see another player push his team as hard as I will push everybody the rest of the season,’’ Tebow said. “You will never see a team play harder than we will the rest of the season.”

The Gators didn’t lose again and went on to win the national championship.

“We all fell in behind him, but I felt at that time that the entire team felt that way,’’ Murphy said. “He’s the spokesperson of the team, he’s the quarterback, the leader of the team. Just to see him come out and publicly say it meant a lot to the guys on the team and everyone else.

“We knew we had one goal, and that was to win the national championship. With him coming out, stepping up and saying nobody would outperform us and outplay us and he wouldn’t mess up, it made us raise our level up.”

Murphy says there’s a comparison to be made with how he felt the day of the Mississippi loss and how the Raiders felt following last week’s 38-31 loss to Jacksonville.

“Right now we know – it’s the same situation,’’ Murphy said. “Our backs were against the wall then. Our backs are against the wall now, and I feel that the team is taking the same approach to this game.

“We’re going to go out, we’re going to fight our way, no matter what happens, no matter if they get up, get down, we’re going to go out fighting.”

More Friday news and notes:

– Middle linebacker Rolando McClain (foot) did not practice, was listed as questionable and will be a game time decision.

Those who were limited in practice and listed as questionable were cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (ankle), wide receiver Johnnie Lee Higgins (ankle), wide receiver Nick Miller (ankle). Those who participated fully and are listed as probable are tackle Khalif Barnes (back), tight end Zach Miller (foot), defensive tackle Richard Seymour (knee), cornerback Chris Johnson (groin), quarterback Kyle Boller (quad), safety Tyvon Branch (shoulder) and linebacker Travis Goethel (knee).

–The decision on whether Higgins or Nick Miller will return punts will be made on game day and ball security will be stressed on a rainy day.

“I think you want to be smart back there and we’re going to coach that up,’’ Cable said. “The most important thing, and we’re going to coach that up, is to possess the ball for your team.’’

– The Raiders and all other NFL teams have been given guidelines for sideline decorum after Jets strength coach Sal Alosi tripped the Dolphins Nolan Carroll this week.

“I am as surprised by it as anybody,” Cable said of the Jets’ offense. “There is no place for it or reason for it. Totally surprised.”

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  • lefty12

    NPZ just wants to argue*

  • hwnrdr

    I know…that the refs forced Cable to use that challenge was just plain BS! How do you rule it a turnover, then huddle up a long time and then over rule the original call…?

  • Guy

    Plus they never blew the whistle, I really hate zebras. The “holding” on miller was also bs. The one call we got was the helmet to helmet on Campbell. I also think Aso was held on Jenning’s long td

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Ford ran with the Clemson track team this spring, earning indoor All-America honors after taking third place at the NCAA championships with a 6.60-second time in the 60-yard dash. This summer, he lived in Orlando, working out with his older brother, a former Florida State running back, as well as Oakland Raiders receiver Travis Taylor.

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    12/15/2010 – 2010 WALTER CAMP FOOTBALL FOUNDATION SECOND TEAM ALL-AMERICAN: OL Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State, Sr., a starter in 37 of the last 38 games, Wisniewski is the 81st Penn State football student-athlete to earn first team All-America recognition, a total of 95 times, dating back to W.T. (Mother) Dunn’s selection to the Walter Camp All-America squad in 1906. Wisniewski is the Nittany Lions’ 78th first team All-American under Hall of Fame coach Joe Paterno. Penn State has had at least one All-American in 40 of his 45 years as head coach, with nine first team All-America honorees in the past six seasons. Wisniewski becomes the 11th Nittany Lion offensive lineman to earn first team All-America accolades since 1966, a group that includes his uncle, Steve Wisniewski, who was so honored in 1987 and `88. Stefen Wisniewski’s father, Leo, was a standout defensive lineman for Penn State from 1978-81. – Penn State football

    •Full Stefen Wisniewski News Wire
    Overview
    Simply put, Stefen Wisniewski is maximizing his opportunities as a Penn State student-athlete. The first Nittany Lion true freshman offensive lineman to start a game since center Joe Iorio in 1999, Wisniewski has emerged as a physical, productive and instinctive offensive lineman in his first two seasons in Happy Valley. With the graduation of three all-conference starters from the O-Line, Wisniewski spent the off-season transitioning to the center position after playing guard the past two seasons, including 12 starts in 2008. Like his transition into collegiate academics and athletics, Wisniewski’s move to center has been seamless. The highly-skilled, intelligent and physical student-athlete is poised to anchor and join senior tackle Dennis Landolt in leading an inexperienced unit in 2009. Despite not having played center at Penn State, Wisniewski’s talents and productivity are evident, as he received preseason first-team All-Big Ten recognition from Phil Steele’s 2009 College Football and preseason third-team All-America notice by Athlon Sports College Football.

    He has worked hard to improve his skills and strength in his initial two years. The talented and driven Wisniewski also is among Penn State’s most accomplished and community service-oriented student-athletes. A student in the Schreyer Honors College, he brought a 3.87 cumulative grade-point average in secondary education into the summer, having compiled a perfect 4.0 grade-point average during the 2009 spring and 2007 fall semesters. Wisniewski was selected a 2008 second-team ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American, one of a program-record five Nittany Lions so honored last season. He will be a strong candidate to earn first-team honors this year. One of the squad’s most active members in community service, Wisniewski has participated in the Student-Athlete Advisory Board’s Autism Awareness reading program, THON Make-A-Wish program, Pennsylvania Special Olympics State Summer Games, Habitat for Humanity, Athletic Directors Leadership Institute, Athletes In Action, The Second Mile and other activities.

    A U.S. Army All-American at Central Catholic HS, Wisniewski was on the field for 748 snaps last year, third-highest among all returnees. Wisniewski is another Nittany Lion with strong family ties to the program. His father, Leo, was a standout for the Lions, lettering from 1979-81, and playing four years with the NFL’s Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts. An uncle, Steve Wisniewski, was a two-time first-team All-America guard during his outstanding Penn State career (1985-88) and was selected All-Pro eight times during his 13-year NFL career with the Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders. One of 10 returning Nittany Lions from western Pennsylvania, Wisniewski should have a significant impact on the fortunes of the Nittany Lion offense the next two seasons.

    2009 Season
    It was a challenging, exciting and rewarding 2009 season for Stefen Wisniewski and he is intent on making the 2010 campaign another memorable one for the Nittany Lions. He spent the 2009 spring practice and preseason camp transitioning from guard to center and was recognized for his efforts by being selected first-team All-Big Ten by the coaches and media. A secondary education major in the Schreyer Honors College, Wisniewski has spent this year student teaching 10th-grade English at State College Area High School. Every weekday last fall, he was at school early in the morning and didn’t leave until 30 minutes before position meetings began in the Lasch Football Building. He was the subject of a feature story in the December issue of Sports Illustrated Kids, as the writer spent part of a typical day with the standout studentathlete. The day after the all-conference honors were announced, Wisniewski was selected a first-team ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American, joining teammates Josh Hull and Andrew Pitz on the first-team. For the second consecutive year, Penn State led all Football Bowl Subdivision teams in Academic All-Americans, as Wisniewski added to his 2008 second-team honor. Owner of a superlative 3.90 grade-point average, the squad’s highest mark, Wisniewski will have an opportunity in 2010 to become Penn State’s first three-time Academic All- American. He earned a perfect 4.0 GPA last fall. A U.S. Army All-American at Pittsburgh Central Catholic High School, Wisniewski was a critical contributor for an offensive line that was inexperienced to start the 2009 season.

    He and senior tackle Dennis Landolt anchored a line that had four different starting lineups in the first six games, but meshed well in the second half of the season. Wisniewski saw action on 905 snaps, the third-highest total on the team in 2009, led by 86 in the wins over Minnesota and LSU. The O-Line played a huge role in Penn State ranking No. 2 in the Big Ten in total offense at 406.9 ypg. The Nittany Lions were the only Big Ten team ranked in the top five of the conference’s four primary offensive statistical categories in 2009: total (406.9 ypg), scoring (28.8 ppg), rushing (169.8 ypg) and passing (237.2 ypg) offense. Behind the protection of the physical and tenacious Wisniewski and his linemates, Daryll Clark finished No. 2 in the Big Ten in passing efficiency and threw a school season-record 24 touchdown passes. Penn State was third in the Big Ten in fewest sacks allowed and eclipsed 500 yards of total offense on four occasions, including 512 in the regular-season finale at Michigan State.

    2008 Season
    Started 12 games at guard, playing an instrumental role in Penn State ranking in the Top 20 nationally in rushing (17th, 205.8 ypg), total offense (14th, 448.9 ypg) and scoring offense (11th, 38.9 ppg) in 2008. Eleven of his starts were at right guard. The Nittany Lions led the Big Ten in total and scoring offense, were second in rushing and third in passing offense (243.1 ypg). Wisniewski earned second-team All-Big Ten honors in helping pave the way for Evan Royster to become Penn State’s fourth consecutive 1,000-yard rusher (three different players). He also was key in helping Penn State lead the Big Ten and rank No. 4 in the nation in fewest sacks allowed last season with 13. Wisniewski helped the Lions gain more than 400 yards 10 times, including 410 against Southern California, the nation’s No. 1-ranked defense, in the 2009 Rose Bowl, with four games above 500 yards.

    Penn State posted seven games with more than 200 rushing yards, led by 334 against Coastal Carolina. The Nittany Lions ran behind the line to tally seven rushing touchdowns in the season-opener, the most since scoring seven against Michigan State in 2002. At Syracuse, the O-line led the charge as Penn State delivered 393 yards in the first half, averaging 8.0 yards per play en route to the 55-13 win. The durable Wisniewski was on the field for 748 plays, led by 74 at Syracuse and 73 against Illinois. Wisniewski was selected a 2008 second-team ESPN The Magazine Academic All-American, one of a program-record five Nittany Lions so honored in 2008. He also earned Academic All-Big Ten accolades and delivered a perfect 4.00 GPA during the 2009 spring semester.

    2007 Season
    Wisniewski played in eight games and was joined by linebacker Chris Colasanti as the only true freshmen to earn time on the field. He was named to The Sporting News Freshman All-Big Ten team. Wisniewski played in each of the last seven games, making his collegiate debut against Buffalo. One month later, he made his first career start in the 36-31 win at Indiana, getting the nod at right guard. He became the first Penn State true freshman offensive lineman to start since center Joe Iorio in 1999. Wisniewski helped the Nittany Lions rush for 192 yards and pass for 197 in the important road win over Indiana. He saw action on 230 snaps, led by 42 in the Alamo Bowl win over Texas A&M, as he helped the Lions run for a season-high 270 yards. He compiled a perfect 4.0 grade-point average during the 2007 fall semester.

    High School
    A two-time first-team all-state honoree, Wisniewski played in each of the last seven games, in addition to his debut against Buffalo. He was named to The Sporting News Freshman All-Big Ten team. He saw action on 230 snaps, led by 42 in the Alamo Bowl win over Texas A&M, as he helped the Lions run for a season- high 270 yards. The O-Line paved the way for Penn State to gain 2,519 rushing yards in 2007, with 27 touchdowns, averaging 4.8 yards per attempt, up 0.6 from 2006. He was named to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Fabulous 22 team and the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review Terrific 25, as well as earning All-Western Pennsylvania honors during his standout prep career. Wisniewski is another Nittany Lion with strong family ties to the program. His father, Leo, was a standout defensive lineman for the Lions, lettering from 1979-81. An uncle, Steve Wisniewski, was a two-time first-team All-America guard during his outstanding Penn State career (1985-88). Wisniewski is a highly-skilled player who should have a significant impact on the offensive line the next three seasons. He is one of 11 returning Nittany Lions that hail from western Pennsylvania.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Greg Romeus in the 3rd?

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Brandon Bair in the 6th ??

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Kenrick Ellis in the 4th

  • Guy

    what do you guys know about stanford nt fua?

  • hwnrdr

    That Jax game really pissed me off! The team is really going to have to show if they want it or not these last 3 games! Even if they miss the playoffs because of KC and SD winning out til Jan 2nd…it will be the turning point going into next year (as long as Al keeps the team together)! Let’s go Raiders!!!!

  • alex7

    Mcraider

    the redskins made the playoffs 1 year in campbells stay there. the team had a losing record, he got hurt and todd collins went 4-0 with that pro bowl roster.

    collins didn’t complain about not being in some system multiple years.
    he simply didn’t choke games away, which if you ask any redskins fan jason did continuously.

    when it suits you guys you talk about his wins this year ignoring his horrible career record and his 4 horrible games this year.

    if that’s your definition of talent, you can have it. I want wins, not slightly improving statistics that’s STILL rank in the bottom half of the nfl.

  • sirblitzalot

    Brace yourselves! I am sure Tom Cable is writing his post game news conference Oakland Raiders defeat speech at this moment. He will be answering the questions:
    Q: How could your team allow Tim Tebow to run for 110 yards and score three Touchdowns in the first half?
    Answer: We didn’t maintain our gaps and he slipped through. We had him wrapped up on several of those runs but for some reason we just weren’t able to make the tackles. We are getting better in that department (tackling) but I don’t know what happened? We are working on that still.
    Q: Stanford Rout got toasted again for 2 touchdowns and some long gains, do you plan on keeping him on staff next year?
    A: Rout had a tough day. When we stole him away from S.F. we knew we had something special (as in special olympics) and we knew he was a project. Yes, he got beat for 230 yards today but he has grown leaps and bounds since he arrived. I am sure he will be fine. He just has to remember to have a short memory?
    Q: At the end of the game you went up to Hue Jackson, horse-collared him and the blind-sided him with a straight right hand and knocked him out cold; Was there anything to that?
    A: That, ha, ha. That was just us having fun. I like the way he only called 11 run plays in this game and I wanted to congratulate him before he got to the locker room but he was walking pretty fast, so I had to horse collar him. I was going to shake his hand but I forgot to extend my fingers so when I reached for his hand he turned to his right and I accidently hit him. No big deal. His jaw bone is fractured but it should heal in 6 weeks max. We are good.
    Q: Do you think this loss signed your death certificate as head coach for the Raiders next year?
    A: That is the least of my worries right now. The Colts are coming in next week and I have already devised a rough draft on that game plan. I don’t want to reveal my plan but let just say, You ever hear that saying, “Never hook with a hooker? ” Well we are going to dispel that myth. That is all I can say for now. (Meaning Jason goes up top, pass for pass against Manning).

    But if that should happen, I will land on my feet. Look at Rob Ryan, if he still has a job I

    discussing how his troops allowed the hapless Broncos, lead by 110 yards rushing by TIM TEBOW, clock mishandling, missed tackles, special teams breakdowns and

  • Guy

    Are you even a fan? And I may be missing something, but since when was Routt from sf?

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    23 Fabian Washington CB Nebraska Oakland Raiders
    24 Aaron Rodgers QB California Green Bay Packers
    25 Jason Campbell QB Auburn Washington Redskins
    26 Chris Spencer C Mississippi Seattle Seahawks
    27 Roddy White WR Alabama-Birmingham Atlanta Falcons
    28 Luis Castillo DE Northwestern San Diego Chargers
    29 Marlin Jackson DB Michigan Indianapolis Colts
    30 Heath Miller TE Virginia Pittsburgh Steelers
    31 Mike Patterson DT USC Philadelphia Eagles
    32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State New England Patriots

    Al took Fab Wash @ 23 that looks like a poor pick now.

    Spencer, Patterson, Castillo, Miller, RODGERS??? Hello how did these guys all fall so far??? I’d take any of em over Fab now!

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    I guess SF wanted Rout @ 65, we got him @ 38.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    93 Trai Essex T Northwestern Pittsburgh Steelers
    94 Adam Snyder T Oregon San Francisco 49ers
    95 Darryl Blackstock LB Virginia Arizona Cardinals
    96 Brandon Jones WR Oklahoma Tennessee Titans
    97 Domonique Foxworth CB Maryland Denver Broncos
    98 Leroy Hill OLB Clemson Seattle Seahawks
    99 Dustin Colquitt P Tennessee Kansas City Chiefs
    100 Nick Kaczur T Toledo New England Patriots
    101 Maurice Clarett — Ohio State Denver Broncos

    WOW we coulda CASHED in big time… behind sight stinks!

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    65 Frank Gore RB Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers
    66 O.J. Atogwe DB Stanford St. Louis Rams
    67 Charlie Frye QB Akron Cleveland Browns
    68 Courtney Roby WR Indiana Tennessee Titans
    69 Andrew Walter QB Arizona State Oakland Raiders
    70 Channing Crowder OLB Florida Miami Dolphins
    71 Alex Smith TE Stanford Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    72 Stanley Wilson DB Stanford Detroit Lions
    73 Vernand Morency RB Oklahoma State Houston Texans
    74 Justin Tuck DE Notre Dame New York Giants
    75 Eric Green DB Virginia Tech Arizona Cardinals
    76 Karl Paymah DB Washington State Denver Broncos
    77 Ryan Moats RB Louisiana Tech Philadelphia Eagles
    78 Kirk Morrison LB San Diego State Oakland Raiders
    79 Evan Mathis G Alabama Carolina Panthers
    80 Dustin Fox DB Ohio State Minnesota Vikings
    81 Richie Incognito C Nebraska St. Louis Rams
    82 Alfred Fincher LB Connecticut New Orleans Saints
    83 Chris Henry WR West Virginia Cincinnati Bengals
    84 Ellis Hobbs CB Iowa State New England Patriots
    85 David Greene QB Georgia Seattle Seahawks
    86 Kevin Everett TE Miami (Fla.) Buffalo Bills
    87 Scott Starks DB Wisconsin Jacksonville Jaguars
    88 Sione Pouha DT Utah New York Jets
    89 Atiyyah Ellison DT Missouri Carolina Panthers
    90 Jordan Beck LB Cal Poly-S.L.O. Atlanta Falcons
    91 Chris Colmer T North Carolina State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    92 Vincent Burns DE Kentucky Indianapolis Colts
    93 Trai Essex T Northwestern Pittsburgh Steelers
    94 Adam Snyder T Oregon San Francisco 49ers
    95 Darryl Blackstock LB Virginia Arizona Cardinals
    96 Brandon Jones WR Oklahoma Tennessee Titans
    97 Domonique Foxworth CB Maryland Denver Broncos
    98 Leroy Hill OLB Clemson Seattle Seahawks
    99 Dustin Colquitt P Tennessee Kansas City Chiefs
    100 Nick Kaczur T Toledo New England Patriots
    101 Maurice Clarett — Ohio State

    Gore, corning,

    Wow we had 2 3rd rnd picks. tuff bunch..

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Justin Tuck, Evan Mathis, Trai Essex, Darryl Blackstock,Nick Kaczur coulda had any 2 of them.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    175 Anttaj Hawthorne DT Wisconsin Oakland Raiders
    176 Nick Speegle LB New Mexico Cleveland Browns
    177 Wes Sims G Oklahoma San Diego Chargers
    178 Anthony Bryant DT Alabama Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    179 Bo Scaife TE Texas Tennessee Titans
    180 Mike Montgomery DT Texas A&M Green Bay Packers
    181 Chris Harris FS Louisiana-Monroe Chicago Bears
    182 Cedric Houston RB Tennessee New York Jets
    183 Jared Newberry LB Stanford Washington Redskins
    184 Bill Swancutt DE Oregon State Detroit Lions
    185 Chad Owens WR Hawaii Jacksonville Jaguars
    186 Eric Moore DE Florida State New York Giants
    187 Will Svitek T Stanford Kansas City Chiefs
    188 C.C. Brown SS Louisiana-Lafayette Houston Texans
    189 Jovan Haye DE Vanderbilt Carolina Panthers
    190 Tab Perry WR UCLA Cincinnati Bengals
    191 C.J. Mosley DT Missouri Minnesota Vikings
    192 Dante Ridgeway WR Ball State St. Louis Rams
    193 Jason Jefferson DT Wisconsin New Orleans Saints
    194 Pat Thomas LB North Carolina State Jacksonville Jaguars
    195 Craig Bragg WR UCLA Green Bay Packers
    196 Tony Jackson RB Iowa Seattle Seahawks
    197 Justin Geisinger G Vanderbilt Buffalo Bills
    198 Joel Dreessen TE Colorado State New York Jets
    199 Khari Long DE Baylor Kansas City Chiefs
    200 Chris Myers G Miami (Fla.) Denver Broncos
    201 DeAndra Cobb RB Michigan State Atlanta Falcons
    202 Dave Rayner K Michigan State Indianapolis Colts
    203 Andrew Hoffman DT Virginia Cleveland Browns
    204 Chris Kemoeatu G Utah Pittsburgh Steelers
    205 Derrick Johnson CB Washington San Francisco 49ers
    206 Johnathan Goddard LB Marshall Detroit Lions
    207 Joe Berger T Michigan Tech Carolina Panthers
    208 Justin Beriault DB Ball State Dallas Cowboys
    209 Rob Petitti T Pittsburgh Dallas Cowboys
    210 Reggie Hodges P Ball State St. Louis Rams
    211 Calvin Armstrong T Washington State Philadelphia Eagles
    212 Ryan Riddle LB California Oakland Raiders
    213 Derek Anderson QB Oregon State Baltimore Ravens
    214 Pete McMahon T Iowa Oakland Raiders

    And we take a fat pot head.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    We missed bout 5 picks in that round and had 2 picks.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    OOps we had 3 picks in the 6th rnd

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Fab Washington could have been both Lofa Tatupu, AND Vincent Jackson

    Let that one burn yer a$$ for a min.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Robert Gallery T Iowa Oakland Raiders
    3 Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh Arizona Cardinals
    4 Philip Rivers
    coulda been

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Robert Gallery T Iowa Oakland Raiders
    3 Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh Arizona Cardinals
    4 Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State New York Giants
    5 Sean Taylor FS Miami (Fla.) Washington Redskins
    6 Kellen Winslow TE Miami (Fla.) Cleveland Browns
    7 Roy Williams WR Texas Detroit Lions
    8 DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech Atlanta Falcons
    9 Reggie Williams WR Washington Jacksonville Jaguars
    10 Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina Houston Texans
    11 Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami (Ohio) Pittsburgh Steelers
    12 Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami (Fla.) New York Jets
    13 Lee Evans WR Wisconsin Buffalo Bills
    14 Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma Chicago Bears
    15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    16 Shawn Andrews T Arkansas Philadelphia Eagles
    17 D.J. Williams OLB Miami (Fla.) Denver Broncos
    18 Will Smith DE Ohio State New Orleans Saints
    19 Vernon Carey T Miami (Fla.) Miami Dolphins
    20 Kenechi Udeze DE USC Minnesota Vikings
    21 Vince Wilfork NT Miami (Fla.) New England Patriots
    22 J.P. Losman QB Tulane Buffalo Bills
    23 Marcus Tubbs DT Texas Seattle Seahawks
    24 Steven Jackson RB Oregon State St. Louis Rams
    25 Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas Green Bay Packers
    26 Chris Perry RB Michigan Cincinnati Bengals
    27 Jason Babin OLB Western Michigan Houston Texans
    28 Chris Gamble CB Ohio State Carolina Panthers
    29 Michael Jenkins WR Ohio State Atlanta Falcons
    30 Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech Detroit Lions
    31 Rashaun Woods WR Oklahoma State San Francisco 49ers
    32 Benjamin Watson

    Rivers, Fitz, Big Ben, Toomi Harris, Vilma, shawn andrews, Wilfork, udez, Tubbs, steven Jaskson, Babin, gamble Jenkins.

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Robert Gallery T Iowa Oakland Raiders
    3 Larry Fitzgerald WR Pittsburgh Arizona Cardinals
    4 Philip Rivers QB North Carolina State New York Giants
    5 Sean Taylor FS Miami (Fla.) Washington Redskins
    6 Kellen Winslow TE Miami (Fla.) Cleveland Browns
    7 Roy Williams WR Texas Detroit Lions
    8 DeAngelo Hall CB Virginia Tech Atlanta Falcons
    9 Reggie Williams WR Washington Jacksonville Jaguars
    10 Dunta Robinson CB South Carolina Houston Texans
    11 Ben Roethlisberger QB Miami (Ohio) Pittsburgh Steelers
    12 Jonathan Vilma MLB Miami (Fla.) New York Jets
    13 Lee Evans WR Wisconsin Buffalo Bills
    14 Tommie Harris DT Oklahoma Chicago Bears
    15 Michael Clayton WR Louisiana State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    16 Shawn Andrews T Arkansas Philadelphia Eagles
    17 D.J. Williams OLB Miami (Fla.) Denver Broncos
    18 Will Smith DE Ohio State New Orleans Saints
    19 Vernon Carey T Miami (Fla.) Miami Dolphins
    20 Kenechi Udeze DE USC Minnesota Vikings
    21 Vince Wilfork NT Miami (Fla.) New England Patriots
    22 J.P. Losman QB Tulane Buffalo Bills
    23 Marcus Tubbs DT Texas Seattle Seahawks
    24 Steven Jackson RB Oregon State St. Louis Rams
    25 Ahmad Carroll CB Arkansas Green Bay Packers
    26 Chris Perry RB Michigan Cincinnati Bengals
    27 Jason Babin OLB Western Michigan Houston Texans
    28 Chris Gamble CB Ohio State Carolina Panthers
    29 Michael Jenkins WR Ohio State Atlanta Falcons
    30 Kevin Jones RB Virginia Tech Detroit Lions
    31 Rashaun Woods WR Oklahoma State San Francisco 49ers
    32 Benjamin Watson

    ***
    COulda had Soap-a-oga, Darnell Dockett, Nick Hardwick, Max Starks Bernard Berrian Matt Schaub Landon Johnson Shaun Phillips But no we got Stuart Schweigert

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    In the 4th we got Carlos Francis

    Coulda got Isaac Sopoaga Jerricho Cotchery Robert Geathers Stacy Andrews Michael Waddell WOW even Jared Allen

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    In the 5th we got Johnnie Morant

    Coulda got Gibril Wilson Jacob Bell Jake Scott Mark Wilson Michael Turner D.J. Hackett and even Drew Carter

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    In the 6th we got Shawn Johnson DE Delaware , and Cody Spencer LB

    coulda got any two of Nick Leckey Corey Williams Andy Lee Jim Sorgi Keith Lewis

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    In the 7th we got Courtney Anderson not a bad pick for the 7th, but we coulda had Shane Olivea Patrick Crayton Derrick Pope Derrick Ward Bobby McCray

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    In 2003 we got Nnamdi Asomugha CB California

    32 Tyler Brayton

    Coulda got Eric Steinbach G Iowa Cincinnati Bengals
    34 Boss Bailey OLB Georgia Detroit Lions
    35 Charles Tillman CB Louisiana-Lafayette Chicago Bears
    36 Eugene Wilson FS Illinois New England Patriots
    37 Jonathan Stinchcomb T Georgia New Orleans Saints
    38 Al Johnson C Wisconsin Dallas Cowboys
    39 Rashean Mathis CB Bethune-Cookman Jacksonville Jaguars
    40 E.J. Henderson LB Maryland Minnesota Vikings
    41 Bennie Joppru TE Michigan Houston Texans
    42 Ken Hamlin FS Arkansas Seattle Seahawks
    43 Pisa Tinoisamoa OLB Hawaii St. Louis Rams
    44 Taylor Jacobs WR Florida Washington Redskins
    45 Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M New England Patriots
    46 Drayton Florence CB Tuskegee San Diego Chargers
    47 Kawika Mitchell MLB South Florida Kansas City Chiefs
    48 Chris Kelsay DE Nebraska Buffalo Bills
    49 Eddie Moore LB Tennessee Miami Dolphins
    50 Bruce Nelson C Iowa Carolina Panthers
    51 Terry Pierce LB Kansas State Denver Broncos
    52 Chaun Thompson LB West Texas A&M Cleveland Browns
    53 Victor Hobson LB Michigan New York Jets
    54 Anquan Boldin WR Florida State Arizona Cardinals
    55 Bryan Scott SS Penn State Atlanta Falcons
    56 Osi Umenyiora DE Troy State New York Giants
    57 Anthony Adams DT Penn State San Francisco 49ers
    58 Mike Doss SS Ohio State Indianapolis Colts
    59 Alonzo Jackson LB Florida State Pittsburgh Steelers
    60 Tyrone Calico WR Middle Tennessee State Tennessee Titans
    61 L.J. Smith TE Rutgers Philadelphia Eagles
    62 Terrence Kiel SS Texas A&M San Diego Chargers

  • http://www.ibabuzz.com DirteeRaccoon

    Then we got Teyo Johnson TE Stanford

    coulda been Kelley Washington Lance Briggs Jason Witten TE Tennessee Dallas Cowboys
    70 Gerald Hayes LB Pittsburgh Arizona Cardinals
    71 Nate Burleson Derrick Dockery G Texas Washington Redskins
    82 Ricky Manning

  • Plunketthead

    Q: At the end of the game you went up to Hue Jackson, horse-collared him and the blind-sided him with a straight right hand and knocked him out cold; Was there anything to that?
    A: That, ha, ha. That was just us having fun. I like the way he only called 11 run plays in this game and I wanted to congratulate him before he got to the locker room but he was walking pretty fast, so I had to horse collar him. I was going to shake his hand but I forgot to extend my fingers so when I reached for his hand he turned to his right and I accidently hit him. No big deal. His jaw bone is fractured but it should heal in 6 weeks max. We are good.

    LOL sirblitzalot

  • raidermarty

    tebow may start sunday hhhmmm? Don’t know that it will change the outcome any. I expect us to come out and handle the broncos pretty well. I know they’re still smarting after that last thrashing but the RAIDERS are simply the better team right now. We just have to come out focused but I like the way we have played all our division foes this year. Seems we have no trouble getting up for afc west teams.
    RAIDERS 27 donks 14

  • Plunketthead

    Tim will be a little too slow for the NFL. Things that worked in the semi pros will not cut it today.

    Look for the run and the short pass. and a pick six or two. They will just be looking to slow the game down and keep us from scoring 50 points.

  • Plunketthead

    Might as well rest RM and pray its nothing serious or long term.

  • Plunketthead

    Thats funny how the King is booooooooooooooooood everywhere he goes and not just Cleveland.

    I “hate” pro BB and I especially hate the Lakers but I love it that the Knicks are playing well again. I love spike lee razzing players like he tried to do to Reggie and Reggie would snuff him and talk smack back.

    Its good for the game

    Can Carmello play with Stoudemire?

  • Plunketthead

    Jerryworld gives us leeway in talking about whatever we want. And I appreciate that. Its one reason I have stayed here.

    I admit the BB talk has always irked me
    Screw the hollywood fakers however If you cant beat them join them.

    So in the spirit of Christmas (jerry, can we still say Christmas) I am gonna get on the BB bandwagon.

    Knicks on the east coast and the Clippers on the West

    Fakers suck

  • Plunketthead

    I wonder what is ailing McClain?
    I hope it is not head issues like what ail Percy

  • tuckrulefool

    Im renewing an 8 yr dormant exercise I used to enjoy going through. Think of it as the NFL’s version of Chess.

    Hopefully I got all the details right….

    =====

    OAK as AFC WEST Division Champs at 9-7

    Need:
    1 KC loss (@stl; vs ten)
    AND
    1SD loss (@cinn; @den)

    OAK as a Wildcard (This is where you need to strap in and clear out the morning fog)….

    Generally speaking…3 (or more) teams within 3 or more divisions must tie at 9-7. OAK wins ALL strength of victory comparisons with all potential 9-7 teams when there is a > 3way > 3 division 9-7 tie (not including AFC West teams). Note 1: OAK loses with a 2 team 9-7 tie (with Jets or Baltimore). And, since Balt and NY already have 9 wins, the only way to get a 2 team 9-7 tie would be if Jets or Balt have a 10-6 or better record. Note 2: Any AFC west 9-7 ties with SD or KC are meaningless since OAK wins all AFC West division tiebreakers.

    OK, more specifically….

    OAK as 5 seed
    A. 1 Loss by SD (@cinn; @den) OR 1Loss by KC (@stl; vs tenn)
    PLUS…
    9-7 jets (@pitt; @Chi; vs buff) AND 9-7 bal (vs NO; @cle; vs cinn)
    PLUS
    1 Loss by MIA (vs buff; vs det; @NE)

    OAK as 6 seed:
    A. 1 Loss by SD (@cinn; @den) OR 1Loss by KC (@stl; vs tenn)
    PLUS….
    9-7 jets OR 9-7 bal (ie one team 10-6 or better = OK)
    PLUS….
    1 Loss by MIA (vs buff; vs det; @NE)
    PLUS….
    9-7 record for the AFC south second place team (i.e. creating a 3 way/3 div 9-7 tie)…
    Note 3: Indy must beat Jax for this seed 6 scenario to play out.

    B. 1 Loss by SD (@cinn; @den) OR 1Loss by KC (@stl; vs tenn)
    PLUS….
    9-7 bal
    PLUS….
    9-7 Miami with a 7-5 afc conf record (ie must beat Buff and NE and lose to Det)
    Note 4: Miami at 9-7 with a 6-6 conf record will void this Seed 6 possibility for OAK

    Aside:
    Jax (@ indy; vs wash;@hou)
    Indy (vs jax; @oak; vs Tenn)

  • http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=eb53t3&s=5&hid=3&tag=my+pool Lynn from Snot

    winning the division is the only way because of a lousy conference record

  • Just Fire Baby

    Apparently Christmas is not on the banned list (yet)

    The Knicks are kind of like the Raiders, the league is much better off when they are good.

    Either you like them, and they have one of the most passionate fan bases like us, or you love to hate them.

  • 504 Raider

    Morning Nation!

    Just read the posts from Midnight to now and after reading all those woulda coulda shouldas from DirteeRaccoon, I’m now depressed and going back to bed.

    Check back later.

  • Plunketthead

    Three games left in the season and we are still in the playoff hunt.
    Next year we will win those close games that we shoud have won this year

    best year ever!!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Anyone else doing the College Bowl Mania contest on espn?

    I like the “confidence” contests, makes it so wide open.

    If anyone has or does join, let me know and we can get a group together.

  • Plunketthead

    Well I am gonna get on the bandwagon.
    Spike looked like a cartoon charactor last night with the big glasses and colorful get up.

    If the NBA or NFL wants more TV viewers, they need to take my advice.

    More it more like you are at the game. I want to see more cheerleaders and I want to see more of the fans and what they are saying.

    I get tired of the talking heads telling us what to think

  • Plunketthead

    jfb I will go join right now. Its a little too wet and chilly to outside chores this morning

  • Kirk

    One made Janakowski field goal is what is going to keep us from the playoffs. This stuff about kickers not playing in preseason games is bs.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Created a group, e-mail if you want to join:

    raidersfanlv@yahoo.com

  • http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=eb53t3&s=5&hid=3&tag=my+pool Lynn from Snot

    Kirk, Sea Bass’ miss hurt but losing to the 9ers in the the way they did was just as bad or worse.