Cable’s riot act gets Raiders going
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 19th, 2010 at 7:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes, quotes and observations from the Raiders’ 39-23 win over the Denver Broncos Sunday at the Coliseum:
— After turning the ball over three times and finding themselves in a 17-17 tie with an inferior Denver team, coach Tom Cable thought it was no time for calm, rational analysis.
“There’s no reason to be calm or rational at that point,’’ Cable said. “That’s just not us. That’s not who we’ve become or what we’re trying to get to. And ultimately if we can get some help and have a chance at this thing at the end, we’ve got to be better than that.
“I’m proud of the way we responded in the second half, in all three phases. I thought our team really came forward and showed up.”
Oakland outscored Denver 22-6, outgained them 243-73, crushed the Broncos running game, giving up 17 yards on 15 carries, and even got a safety when Quentin Groves dumped Correll Buckhalter in the end zone one play after Lance Ball was stuffed for a 4-yard loss by Tommy Kelly and Lamarr Houston.
The Raiders finished the game with 11 tackles for losses.
What exactly did Cable say to spur this kind of play?
Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha was in the training room.
“I knew he was going crazy,’’ Asomugha said. “I just didn’t know what he was saying.’’
“You don’t want to know,’’ quarterback Jason Campbell said.
“We got chewed out at halftime,’’ Kelly said. “We let them stay in the game. He was like, `Man, don’t give nobody no hope. Let’s not come in here after the game and talk about how we missed this chance. He wanted us to go out there in the second half and step on their necks.’’
Asked to be more specific with regard to Cable’s halftime talk, Kelly said they were told, “Get off your ass and play. Take advantage of what you got. You know this team. They’re going to give you an opportunity to put them away. Put them away. Step on their throat. He just kept saying it over and over again. Step on their throat.’’
— Cable is right in that the Raiders can’t afford a half of football against Indianapolis like they had Sunday against the Broncos.
But the good sign is this _ the Raiders went into a game as a prohibitive favorite and flexed their muscle. In past years, they’ve been the 3-10 team coming in. After seven years, they’ve upgraded to at least the point where they put 3-10 teams away.
— The AFC West land rush continues.
After years of watching the likes of LaDainian Tomlinson, Larry Johnson, Priest Holmes and the Denver running back of the month run them over while doing little damage on the ground, the Raiders have stunningly turned the tables.
The Raiders rushed for 264 yards on 41 carries against the Broncos, and got off to a rousing start when Jacoby Ford exploded for a 71-yard touchdown run on the first snap of the game on an end-around.
In five division games, not coincidentally all wins, Oakland has 1,066 yards on 201 carries, averaged 5.3 yards per attempt and scored 12 touchdowns. The opponents have gained 397 yards on 118 carries, averaged 3.4 per try and scored two touchdowns.
Running back Darren McFadden, with 119 yards on 20 carries, is up to 1,112 yards rushing and he’s missed two games. He added four catches for 39 yards, with the highlight coming when he snuck uncovered out of the backfield and raced 21 yards to the 1-yard line.
Even before Campbell threw the pass, a Denver assisted saw McFadden all by his lonesome and could clearly be heard from the press box saying, “Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!’’ as the play unfolded.
Bush took it in from the 1-yard line a play later, his second touchdown of the game.
McFadden had 856 yards rushing and a single 100-yard game in his first two seasons. This year he has 1,112 yards and six games of 100-yards or more. The No. 4 overall pick in 2008, McFadden thought he’d get to 1,000 yards sooner but he’ll take it.
“It’s a surprise to me but it’s well worth the wait,’’ McFadden said. “It’s a great feeling to be able to do that. I have to commend the offensive line for doing a great job all year and the receivers are doing a great job of blocking.’’
With two games to play, McFadden is 182 yards shy of Napoleon Kaufman’s 1,294 yards in 1997 as the second best rushing season in NFL history. Marcus Allen holds the team record with 1,759 yards in 1985.
McFadden is the 10th different running back to have 1,000 yards rushing as a Raider and the first since Lamont Jordan (1,025 yards in 2005). There have been 14 1,000-yard seasons by Raiders running backs.
— Concerns for next week’s game against Indianapolis include the ankle of cornerback Asomugha, hamstring issues for Richard Seymour and Shane Lechler and a concussion for Langston Walker.
Asomugha was in and out of the game and said his ankle “just wasn’t holding up’’ although he did enter the game in the third quarter and promptly make a nice solo stop on quarterback Tim Tebow short of a first down.
“My ankle has been a pain,’’ Asomugha said. “I come out and it feels like it’s good, feels like it’s fine. Then you make a couple of movements and it reverts back.’’
Seymour did not finish the game, and usually available to talk afterward, wasn’t around for comment.
Lechler had to leave the game in the first half, with Sebastian Janikowski coming in and lining a 33-yard punt to Syd’Quan Thompson that was fumbled and recovered by Hiram Eugene, a play which eventually turned into a 49-yard field goal for Janikowski to tie the score.
Campbell left briefly after being hit and having his stinger act up but returned.
In the second half, Campbell was 8 of 12 for 180 yards and a 73-yard touchdown on a circle route to fullback Marcel Reece.
Walker needed to be helped from the field, with Mario Henderson replacing him at right tackle.
– Linebacker Rolando McClain started at middle linebacker after missing the Jacksonville game and the last two weeks of practice with a soft tissue problem in his left foot and played well with seven tackles and one tackle for loss.
Defensive end Matt Shaughnesy had one of the best games of his young career with eight tackles, 1.5 sacks, a tackle for loss two quarterback hits.
—The touchdown pass to Reece came on a simple circle route out of the backfield, with Campbell crediting the fullback for making a good bluff before getting into his route.
What ordinarily would be a 7- or 8-yard gain became much more when Reece found wide open speaces. The only defender with a good shot was safety David Bruton, and Reece went around him as if he were a cardboard cutout.
“I don’t think we have any plays designed to be a 7- or 8-yard play. We’re trying to score on every play,’’ Reece said with a laugh. Jason threw me a great ball. The line picked up everybody. Darren got a good cut on the play. I just tried to finish off the play and get to the black hole.’’
— Denver, a pass-first team under Josh McDaniels, has attempted to balance things out under Eric Studesville and went even more in that direction in Tebow’s starting debut.
Tebow surprised the Raiders with a 40-yard touchdown run up the middle to tie the score 7-7. He wasn’t trusted with a wide open passing game, completing 8 of 16 passes for 133 yards, including a 33-yard touchdown pass to Brandon Lloyd.
There was an element of luck on that play, as Stanford Routt let the ball go right through his hands to Lloyd, who was originally ruled out of bounds. However, Lloyd caught the ball, with his backside on the ground inbounds, and the touchdown was awarded to Denver.
“He’s a better play than I thought he was,’’ Kelly said. “I think he caught some people off guard with that run and then we kind of settled down.’’
Groves kept a running conversation with Tebow going regarding the fates of his school (Auburn) and Tebow’s school (Florida) in the SEC.
“It’s all friendly fun,’’ Groves said. “I asked him what bowl game y’all going to? I told him we were going to the national championship . . . people said he couldn’t be an NFL quarterback but he made some good throws. He had some good runs. He does what suits him best.’’
Groves said his safety came at least partially as a result of the Raiders realizing the Broncos had no intention of letting Tebow throw out of his own end zone. Kelly said the Broncos linemen were in a stance that tipped run.
– In-game posts became impossible when I lost all Internet connection for the fourth quarter. Managed to get a line going through my cell phone following the game.
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December 19th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
its a win
December 19th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
a Denver assisted saw McFadden all by his lonesome and could clearly be heard from the press box saying, “Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!’’ as the play unfolded.
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LOL!
December 19th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
2 Games that will Haunt us for the next 4 years..the AZ game and the SF game…
I remember where I was when Jano missed that kick like I remember when the Shuttle Blew up….
The Jags Game hurts too..hopefully this is like our 99′ year and 00′ and 01′ and 02′ is right behind..
I shoulda bet my life savings on this last game tho..
Love this Team. Love Campbell. I’ll take him over
Timmy Dick anyday..
December 19th, 2010 at 7:51 pm
In five division games, not coincidentally all wins, Oakland has 1,066 yards on 201 carries, averaged 5.3 yards per attempt and scored 12 touchdowns. The opponents have gained 397 yards on 118 carries, averaged 3.4 per try and scored two touchdowns.
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Proof that our O-line/D-line combo is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than anyone else in our division.
December 19th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
WOW!
Raider Domination!!!
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In five division games, not coincidentally all wins, Oakland has 1,066 yards on 201 carries, averaged 5.3 yards per attempt and scored 12 touchdowns. The opponents have gained 397 yards on 118 carries, averaged 3.4 per try and scored two touchdowns.
December 19th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Are you guys sure that was Satele because it sure looked like CC to me on skates. I didn’t see any long hair and that said player looked a bit taller to me.
December 19th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Keep running the ball next week. Stop the run. Keep the ball out of Peytons hands. It’s Gut check time. Manning must go down and He must go down hard.
Go RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Good case for Cable returning, Jerry. And, you’re right. Jerry McDonald for Raiders GM!
December 19th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
# J Hill Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
a Denver assisted saw McFadden all by his lonesome and could clearly be heard from the press box saying, “Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!’’ as the play unfolded.
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LOL!
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Awesome.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Do you think they had that to overturn the incomplete call on the TD? What about the phantom illegal formation? Replay clearly showed we indeed had 7 men on the line of scrimmage. How do you explain these?
You saw these with your own eyes.
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The 7 men seemed a little iffy, but if Reece had been on the line it would have been no issue.
The Lloyd TD was pretty obvious to anyone.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Routt and Huff suck.
Raiders… they made Teblow look like Elway.
Ugly win is still a win.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
good win -building nice rythem and team for next year-players are going to want to be part of this next year-i like campbell he’s got pretty good wheels on those runs and is getting a little better on timing with recievers
December 19th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
The Lloyd TD was pretty obvious to anyone.
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I think they botched thast one. It looked like Lloyds foot/feet were out of bounds before he caught the ball as he was lying on the field.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Jared Veldheer is way better than Bryan Bualga
December 19th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
True, Mike. Hopefully Al doesn’t screw everything up and set us back to phase 1 by firing Cable. Of course, this is all assuming there won’t be a lockout next year, and of course they will. Because there’s no end to the owners’ greed.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Brandon Lloyd catch was an obvious TD.
Want to blame someone, blame Routt for wiffing on the ball in the air, not the refs.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Cable doesn’t win another game and he still got us to 7-9. If Al fires him even after that kind of improvement, he’ll lose so many season ticket accounts he’ll have to start offering them at 75% off.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Cable is going to lobby for McNabb and get him. Cable/Jackson/McNabb. Raiders will be 12-4. Next year, if the owners don’t ruin the season.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Pencilneck McClain yucking it up with Tebow at the halftime break was unexcusable. Someone needs to have a talk with him about commiserating with the opponent during the game..
December 19th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Can Raiders please find a FS?
December 19th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Routt = Torin Dorn
December 19th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
That will be Cable’s next priority, Raiders 75. Right after getting Campbell out of there and bringing McNabb in. Huff will be the next Al scholarship on the bubble. One at a time. Tom Cable is slowly but surely rebuilding the Oakland Raiders into a legitimate Super Bowl contender.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
I hate the CBS commentators they seem to always be against us, and how they were all over Tebow’s jock was rediculous and totally unprofessional!! Even when he was screwing up they had some thing positive to say about him. CBS is a joke!!
December 19th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Huff = Anthony Dorsett
December 19th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
Bryan Bualaga = garbage
December 19th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
lol… horrible ending for Packers.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
LOL!
How about that last 22 seconds JFB?
December 19th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
You suck Flynn. Do you know what it does to me to see the Patriots win?
December 19th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
piss poor game management.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
Elboocho, CBS being on Tebow’s jock has nothing to do with the Raiders. It’s target marketing. It’s for the same reason that Tebow is even in the league in the first place, because he should be bagging groceries by now. So should Flynn, btw.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
J,
Looked like a guy in his first rodeo.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
If the national sports media picks on the Raiders, it’s only because Raider fans are so reactive, and it will heat up their comments sections, feedback, etc. They’re playing on how sensitive so many Raider fans are. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s not even rocket science. You diss the Raiders, Raider fans come out in droves. Because so many Raider fans refuse to blame Al, so they need someone else to take it out on. The media is well aware of this mindset, and plays it to their own advantage.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Flynn=another genius SEC QB.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
would mcnabb even come here? why wouldn’t he just go to SF.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Matt Flynn will be a good QB. Maybe the Raiders can get him.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
lol… Niners are in the hunt at 5-9.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Niners still alive at 5-9. Division realignment is backfiring on the NFL.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Hey, Raiders75, how did we both think of that at the same time? Is it because we’re both geniuses? Or are we both too lazy to reach for our remotes and change the channel from NBC? I don’t know.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
JFB,
Did you see him gesturing to the sidelines that it was 4th down?
I thought it was basic coaching 101 to have 2 plays into the huddle in that situation? Last week and just now prove that is not the case.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Mcfadden is a beast, and to think so many people on this blog wanted him traded or just plain cut!!
December 19th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
40.elboocho Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Mcfadden is a beast, and to think so many people on this blog wanted him traded or just plain cut!!
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top 5 running back. no doubt. another beast is marcel reese in the passing game.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Complete lunacy to think that the owner will be looking to add another QB with us putting up 30 the past 3 weeks.
Bring back Gardowksi and Frye to backup Camplunkett.
Camplunkett will have some BBQs, some bowling parties, and some other rah rah team building activities this offseason. Offense is just fine. Just add a WR.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:38 pm
42.J Hill Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Complete lunacy to think that the owner will be looking to add another QB with us putting up 30 the past 3 weeks.
Bring back Gardowksi and Frye to backup Camplunkett.
Camplunkett will have some BBQs, some bowling parties, and some other rah rah team building activities this offseason. Offense is just fine. Just add a WR.
___ do you think campbell can get the raiders to the superbowl?
December 19th, 2010 at 8:40 pm
How about that rookie kicker for NY ignoring the coach and kicking it to Johnson?
LMFAO!
December 19th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
I think the Raiders can win the AFC West next year with Campbell at QB.
No doubt in my mind.
SB?????
That’s why they play the games!
December 19th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
You are right about the rateing theory “madden”, but it is still crap that even when we are dominating instead of talking up our players they continued to idolize Mr. holier than thou!! just calling it how I see rating be damned when your a Raiders fan!!!
December 19th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
For 7 years I have been sick from this team.
This season is awesome no matter the outcome.
Big test coming up against Indy.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
sup peeps,
Was at the game since 9am this morning. Damn rain kinda ruined our on-field thing. The game was worth the pain of putting up with being wet and cold.
DMAC is the best RB in the league this year. I can’t think of anyone coming close to his ability to break things wide open. When we do our ground and pound, we are a pretty good team. Just dont ask JC to throw often. Ask him to use his feet and check offs. The crowd was off the hook today.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
raiders should be OPEN to looking for a QB. there will be options. mcnabb, orton, palmer.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Hey, Raiders75, how did we both think of that at the same time? Is it because we’re both geniuses? Or are we both too lazy to reach for our remotes and change the channel from NBC? I don’t know.
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Too amazing to not notice it.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
mcnabb, orton, palmer.
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Agreed 100%. Any of these guys will take us to the playoff. JC is way too inconsistent.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
47.Raider75 Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
For 7 years I have been sick from this team.
This season is awesome no matter the outcome.
Big test coming up against Indy.
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its a good matchup for the raiders. run the ball and get a pass rush. indy cant stop the run and our dline has a chance to get pressure on manning. i could see a raider upset. should be a close game. manning will carve us up though.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Manassmauler for starters I will just leave your name alone lol, but you are right Reece is a beast as a pass catching RB, but he still needs to brush up on his blocking and running inside the tackles. Remember he is a fullback.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
If we are depending on Routt for the Indy game, we are dead meat. The Dline must get pressure on Peyton and Hue must stick to the ground game.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
51.aig-raiders Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
mcnabb, orton, palmer.
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Agreed 100%. Any of these guys will take us to the playoff. JC is way too inconsistent.
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kyle orton is the most realistic option. he will go under the radar. hes more rich gannon like. not a big arm.mcnabb would win here. palmer would also win here with our great running game. we can land 1 of these QBS if we want.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
53.elboocho Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Manassmauler for starters I will just leave your name alone lol, but you are right Reece is a beast as a pass catching RB, but he still needs to brush up on his blocking and running inside the tackles. Remember he is a fullback.
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reese makes up for it with his pass catching and running. guy is a playmaker. could be our #2 RB next year if bush leaves. my name was the nickname for Jack Dempsey the heavyweight champion. watch his video, bad motherfuka
December 19th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Just as Campbell is getting comfortable with the “O” people are already calling for his replacement!!! WTF, as long as he finishes the season strong I believe he deserves the right to be our staring QB next year, assuming there is a next year!
December 19th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
54.aig-raiders Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:47 pm
If we are depending on Routt for the Indy game, we are dead meat. The Dline must get pressure on Peyton and Hue must stick to the ground game.
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agree 100% you know raider football. manning will throw for 300yds and 3 tds. its that time of the year. but our ground game may be enough.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
We just need Kyle Orton to be consistent. JC is a constant hit and miss. We dont need a spectacular QB to be a playoff team. We just need consistency at that position. Kyle, McNabb and Palmer would all fit that need.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
Palmer consistent? I never watched much of him before last season, but he looks far from it.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
57.elboocho Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Just as Campbell is getting comfortable with the “O” people are already calling for his replacement!!! WTF, as long as he finishes the season strong I believe he deserves the right to be our staring QB next year, assuming there is a next year!
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i like campbell. I’ve known he was better than grad from day 1. i just believe that he isnt the ultimate answer at QB. maybe I’m wrong, but if oak can get mcnabb, orton or palmer MAYBE they should think about it. those 3 guys have shown that they can light it up when they have a running threat. palmer was really good when the bengals has a running game. mcnabb would love this running game. we have options.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Thanks bro. Unlike Ford, Routt has zero football instincts or athletic coordination. He gets credit for dumb luck and burned big time against WRs that can catch like Lloydd today. At the game today, a good portion of section 145 was hating on his a$$ and with good reasons.
December 19th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
i dont get the routt love from the raider org. hes getting burned. maybe just play the rookies more.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:01 pm
On stats, JC looked decent today but he was wildly inconsistent today out there. DMAC bailed him out and Reece padded his stats. He making a few good throws mixed with a bunch of easy misses. We need more consistentcy than that if we want to take the next step.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Ya,lets play the rookies more like we did with McFadden in the fish game.He really locked his guy down all game.
McNabb-the guy is done,toast.Do you guys pay attention to other teams and their games?
December 19th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Did not know that, but it now makes sense. Dempsey was a great fighter in his time. I have also put up the theory that the raiders will franchise him and later trade him for a starter on offense, defense or draft picks.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
mcnabb palmer and even orton could win with this team. mcnabb and palmer may take this team the whole distance. palmer is good in a balanced offense.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
65.lefty12 Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Ya,lets play the rookies more like we did with McFadden in the fish game.He really locked his guy down all game.
McNabb-the guy is done,toast.Do you guys pay attention to other teams and their games?
___ mcnabb plays for the deadskins. with a running game and playmakers he MAY light it up. i dont think mcnabb is done.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Torrain gave mcnaab a run game vs the bucs last week
December 19th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Would rather see the Jags game again than lose the way the Giants lost today.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
We dont need the McNabb of old. We just need McNabb to be able to be consistent with short and intermediate passes. DMAC will take the brunt of carrying the O and let McNabb ride his coat tail. We need McNabb to be a good supporting actor with our team.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
You may not but A. Reid does and so does the rat.I think I’ll defer to them over a bunch of blog GMs.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Matt Shaugnessey is a beast as well, there are times when this kid is unblockable. I hate to say this because I never want to see any of the players get hurt, but the second Scott went down I knew Matt was going to show he belongs!! the number 77 is safe with him RIP Alzado.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
72.lefty12 Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:10 pm
You may not but A. Reid does and so does the rat.I think I’ll defer to them over a bunch of blog GMs.
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reid had a backup that he believed could replace mcnabb. simple as that. mcnabb would do well in oakland. all veterans do. its a players franchise. palmer would play well here, but hes not mobile at all.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
None of these are an upgrade over JC.
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# manassamauler Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
raiders should be OPEN to looking for a QB. there will be options. mcnabb, orton, palmer.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Shonasty is a young stud DE. Very few DE’s can play both the run and pass well at the same time. You either get one or the other. 77 is indeed safe with this young fella.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Best game ever! I finally got to see our boys beat the donkeys…
December 19th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
Don’t get too excited – this team donco team sux roxxors!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:15 pm
I expected more out of the Rams today, schmucks! SeaPerch killed us in the Arizona game.
The end
December 19th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
75.MistaTheGuru Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
None of these are an upgrade over JC.
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# manassamauler Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
raiders should be OPEN to looking for a QB. there will be options. mcnabb, orton, palmer.
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campbell is a decent QB. but you must know that he isnt taking oakland to the superbowl. mcnabb and palmer have playoff experience. orton has shown that he can make plays.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
I’m the new guy who wants in on some Nation forum action!!!
1. I see Campbell as our guy for a long while. He no longer looks like the deer lost in the headlights!!!
2. Run DMC is damn near Bo Jackson status.
3. Jacoby Ford is our next Tim Brown. Clutch hands. Get a dangerous veteran.
4. Get a beast in C in FA next year (what happened to the staff looking at Jake Grove in workouts a few weeks back? Or is he just washed up?)
5. Our front 4 are awesome. A little inexperienced due to being mostly young, but in time, they will be the most dangerous in the league.
6. Need a better backup than Ricky Brown at MLB. But it’s expected. Rolando will be healthier and with more signs at being an elite among NFL MLBs
7. Seriously need a better FS than Huff and we need a more reliable CB than C. Johnson.
8. I think our coaching staff is adequate for the amount of money that you know who is willing to put out. I personally like Cable in the way that he connects with his team. I like his spirit, his inspiration techniques when it comes to film study, his cheesy hip hip hoorays after a win, and I like how he can keep drama away from the media. I’d like to know more about John Marshall and how he runs his defense.
One love for our Nation!!!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
JC was having another poor day until Reece and DMAC inflated his stats. I dont think most QB’s in this league would be this wildly inconsistent with over 200 yds rushing from the offense today.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
How did Sapp do in Oakland?Or Moss?Or Culpepper?Or Collins?Or ……
If Reid didn’t think McNabb was through I seriously doubt he would have traded him to a division rival.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
dmac is at bo jackson status to me. dmac is the raiders MVP. just might be the #1 playmaker at the RB position this year. running and receiving. very consistent when he gets touches.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
True Lefty on McNabb. The days of him carrying the team is long gone. It was Westbrook that made him look good during his peak stat days. However, we dont need McNabb to carry our team. We have a good enough ground game and D to carry the team. We just need some consistentcy from our QB position.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
I said I would be happy with 8-8, and I will stick w/that, but we could have easily been 10-5. Hopefully the cript keeper will only upgrade and keep the team together, but depending on what happens the rest of the way will determine if Cable keeps his job. As far as I am concerned Marshall and fossil are already gone… hopefully!!!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
And you think McNabb or Orton is going to take you further than JC ? If you make a move you upgrade or you dont do a damn thing and have some continuity going into next year.
We should draft a Qb in the 2nd round and start grooming him. Im talking about a legit Qb not some fk’n lump like JaMeatball!
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# manassamauler Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
campbell is a decent QB. but you must know that he isnt taking oakland to the superbowl. mcnabb and palmer have playoff experience. orton has shown that he can make plays.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
83.lefty12 Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
How did Sapp do in Oakland?Or Moss?Or Culpepper?Or Collins?Or ……
If Reid didn’t think McNabb was through I seriously doubt he would have traded him to a division rival.
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sapp had a 10 sack season, moss quit like he always does, culpepper wasn’t even a starter, and collins played as good as he always did. eagles saw a chance to get something for mcnabb and they humped at it. i dont think it had anything to do with mcnabbs play. more about his age and kevin kolb. it was a good move for teh eagles even though they’ll lose in the playoffs with vick too
December 19th, 2010 at 9:23 pm
AIG,you might as well resign yourself to the fact JC will be the QB next year and probably for a while after that.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
lmao @ K Orton and D McNabb…talk about going sideways!
smh
December 19th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
MistaTheGuru Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:22 pm
And you think McNabb or Orton is going to take you further than JC ? If you make a move you upgrade or you dont do a damn thing and have some continuity going into next year.
We should draft a Qb in the 2nd round and start grooming him. Im talking about a legit Qb not some fk’n lump like JaMeatball!
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# manassamauler Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
campbell is a decent QB. but you must know that he isnt taking oakland to the superbowl. mcnabb and palmer have playoff experience. orton
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i just said that it should be an option, ne open minded about it. i never said that we must replace campbell. but hes not elite, and that being the case we should always be open to upgrade if possible. we should draft a QB though.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
o and Jerry is incorrect Justin Fargas was the last RB to rush for 1000+ yds i believe it was 2007.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
I’m too lazy to check the stats, but was this another 10+ penalty victory for the Raiders?
December 19th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Jonesy941, are you located in SW Florida???
December 19th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Id like to see JC have another year in this system without Cable yanking him around like a yo-yo. Give him another legit WR to play with J Ford because L Murphy & DHB can both skate the FK out of town as far as I’m concerned!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
90.MistaTheGuru Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
lmao @ K Orton and D McNabb…talk about going sideways!
smh
so you’re sold on campbell being the answer. i will say that he is good but melted against the steelers and niners. i hope he proves me wrong. raiders need consistently good QB play. with that they win 11-12 games next year.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
id take Orton hands down….. or just keep JC… Mcnabb is played out like the guy said above he is toast, burnt out!… and i really really dislike Carson Palmer look at his receiving core at the moment and he is average at BEST he is sorry
December 19th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
45 mins south of TAMPA in bradenton
December 19th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
92.Jonesy941 Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
o and Jerry is incorrect Justin Fargas was the last RB to rush for 1000+ yds i believe it was 2007.
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fargas!!! dmac makes fargas look like an amatuer
December 19th, 2010 at 9:29 pm
Lefty,
JC will be with us I get that. I hope Al has a change of heart and realizes that he should have some competition in camp next year. We played a poor team today and they let us off the hook, which is typical of poor teams. IMO, JC’s best day is a mediocre QB and his typical days are below avg. If we want to be a consistent above avg team, we will need to upgrade our QB position.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
o no $hit just saying get the facts straight!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Go ahead and have your love affair with McNabb.I for one don’t believe the old man will go after him and that makes me happy.I could see him going across the bay though,and that would also make me happy because it would mean they still don’t have a QB.Just my opinion-and A. Reid’s and the Rat’s.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Jonesy941, I just moved from B Town to St. Pete!! I had no idea we had Raider fans around this area!!! Did you go to the Jacksonville game??
December 19th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
players that should be cut or let leave if there contracts are up:
HUFF
Brown
Scott
Walker
Higgins
Eugene
And players to be named later!!!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Hello RAIDER fan’s.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Records of staring QB’s that AIG wants starting next year.
Orton 3-10
McNabb 5-8
Palmer 3-10
Then the one he wants to get rid of….
6-5
Orton is a scrub, McNabb is washed up, and Palmer has been inconsistent for a few years now. Why wouldnt you want Campbell to go again next year over these guys.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Texguy Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Records of staring QB’s that AIG wants starting next year.
Orton 3-10
McNabb 5-8
Palmer 3-10
Then the one he wants to get rid of….
6-5
Orton is a scrub, McNabb is washed up, and Palmer has been inconsistent for a few years now. Why wouldnt you want Campbell to go again next year over these guys.
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I don’t get it either.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
104.elboocho Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
players that should be cut or let leave if there contracts are up:
HUFF
Brown
Scott
Walker
Higgins
Eugene
And players to be named later!!!
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Huss Scott and Brown r keepers only as BACKUPS!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
i wish i had been there i had to work it was a good game…. and your not alone the raider nation is strong nation wide!!! and the f’ed up thing i’m from san diego area in cali
December 19th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Glad Cable finally chewed these guys out at halftime and told them to wake the hell up if they don’t want to be embarrased at home versus a rookie QB, and if they truly want to have a chance at playoffs.
JC seems like he is finally getting a rythem going and of course it helps when you have a dominant running game.
Losing Hue Jackson would be a major blow to this football team on offense and would hurt JC’s progression.
I believe he signed a two year contract did he not?
Raider Nation needs to go to NFL.COM and VOTE for DMC, Nnamdi, T Kelley, Gallery, and maybe even Seymour for the Pro Bowl. Lechler and Condo as well.
R McClain and J Ford should definitely make the All Rookie Team! Maybe even Veldheer and Houston.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
thetragicblackmajick Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:17 pm
I’m the new guy
………..
LOL.
Keep leaving comments. I’ll figure out who you are before the night’s over.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Im not sold JC is the answer but I know damn well its not Orton or McNabb. Another year in this system would give you the answer but we need to start grooming a stud.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
The thing is, Campbell seems to play better when he isn’t looking over his shoulder.
The Raiders should indeed look for a long-term answer at QB, if only for insurance purposes in case Campbell doesn’t improve with a second year under Hue Jackson’s system.
The Raiders should turn to the draft and find a mid-round QB they like. Campbell is going to have the first crack at the starting job no matter what, so let the rookie sit on the bench for a little while and learn the game. It’ll take the pressure of Campbell, while giving the Raiders a long-term option to work with.
If Campbell can’t cut it, then the Raiders have a young guy with some upside to turn to. If Campbell does well, then the kid has a little more time to develop his skills.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
MR, you are going to sniff out somebody using a diff alias?
lmao….right up your alley!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Which one is it?
When the other parts of the team carried JC to 3 wins, you guys touted his 3 W’s streak. Nevermind that we won those games based on our D and ground game. When he had good stats but lost against Jax, you guys excused him for other parts of the team.
Which one is it? or are you going to continually pick and choose whenever convenient?
If you really want to go on W/L, you want to compare JC’s W/L vs Orton, Palmer and McNabb? I doubt you will and I am sure you will pick and choose whatever is convenient to support your case again. Pure BS!!!!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:39 pm
# Jonesy941 Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
i wish i had been there i had to work it was a good game…. and your not alone the raider nation is strong nation wide!!! and the f’ed up thing i’m from san diego area in cali
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Dude, You are more than welcome to come to my house for the remaining Raider games. We got the food supply, so let me know. Any local Raider fan is a good friend of mine!! Give me an email somehow and I’ll find ya.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Kyle Orton has ZERO ground game or D support and got 20 TD’s vs 9 ints and 3600 yds. Yeah he would suck worst on a team with our D and super stud DMAC. You guys sure make a lot of sense.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
Evening gentlemen-
Jacoby Ford lights the fireworks again to start the game. Awesome.
Great 2nd half of Raider football.
DMAC is Bo. Reece and Bush are awesome.
Keep Cable, keep them all. Just get some secondary help, o-line help.
Good to see Cable erupt. He is starting to look like a volcano. Dudue is getting big. Nice to see a new shirt on him. He also seems to have tremendous bags under his eyes. Cat needs some serious sleep.
If by some tragic fate of circumstance kc beats tenn next week, I hope it does not deflate the team by kick-off time. 9-7 is still the goal, and a kc loss would inspire a victory over indy more than a tenn loss would.
Lefty, agree on the mcnabb assessment.
Next season our schedule is tough.
When this season is done, be it in kc or the play-offs, coaches get 1 or 2 days off then back to work for the 2011 season. Hope Al has inked everybody in so they waste no time. Team is mighty close. Alot like the ‘99 Raiders. Next season we’ll be alot like the 2000 Raiders.
Jani suprised me when he recieved the snap on the punt. I was more worried about him not being able to handle it than kick it.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Orton would make some sense, but he signed a one-year extension so unless he’s cut, it would take a trade to bring him aboard. The Raiders have other needs to take care of, so I don’t think it would be worth getting rid of draft picks to bring Orton aboard.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
# elboocho Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
players that should be cut or let leave if there contracts are up:
HUFF
Brown
Scott
Walker
Higgins
Eugene
And players to be named later!!!
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L Walker and JLH for sure. I think Carlisle should be considered, since I think Loper would be able to fill in at RG or LG.
Huff should be kept and so should T Scott, and Stevie Brown.
If Huff is resigned, then I can see them consider trading him for like a 3rd rounder if possible.
I can see T. Howard being let go or traded as well.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
DMAC makes C Johnson look like a scrub! Its about time we have a stud @ the RB position!
Merry Christmas Darren McFadden
December 19th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
yeah thats cool let me know jonestim941@aol.com
December 19th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Give it up, why don’t you?
Why all the negativity?
Team is playing well enough, this season has definitely been an upgrade.
5-0 in the division, and they could run the table.
Campbell has come on, the OL is playing better than expected, the WRs are making plays, the DL, even without Seymour played great. The linebacker core is better than in the last years. Yes, there’s still a need for better DBs, maybe another solid corner. Most of all this is a young team, which can only get better.
There isn’t a need to revamp this team like years past, just plug some holes. Cable has been able to motivate the team. Another year with HueJack can make the difference.
And why give up on all the negativity? Because they’re still alive this year, at least wait until they’re out of contention, but even then, this season looks much better than the 5-11 seasons.
Beat Indy and KC should be an easier win.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
109.Jonesy941 Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
i wish i had been there i had to work it was a good game…. and your not alone the raider nation is strong nation wide!!! and the f’ed up thing i’m from san diego area in cali
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It don’t matter where you are, or where yer from, as long as you are a RAIDER fan!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
give JC another year before we try and throw him out bring in rookie in draft
December 19th, 2010 at 9:52 pm
6-0 in the AFC West here we come!!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
raiders till i die!!!! just think its funny most my family are either Charger fans or Buccaneer fans F both of them!!!!!!!!!!!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
The only case Campbell supporters can make for Campbell is “give him one more year”. The white flag of sports arguments. LOL. When has the “one more year” philosophy ever worked? (OK, I’ll spot you Bill Belichick, 2001)
December 19th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
117.aig-raiders Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Kyle Orton has ZERO ground game or D support and got 20 TD’s vs 9 ints and 3600 yds. Yeah he would suck worst on a team with our D and super stud DMAC. You guys sure make a lot of sense.
Jeff George –
1997 Oakland Raiders 290 Comp 521 Att 55.7 Pct 3,917 Yds 29 TD 9 INT 91.2 Rating.
1997 Record – 4-12
Sometimes guys put up garbage time numbers that make them look good. Orton is just one of those guys. Had one of the best defenses in the nation in Chicago and still couldn’t win when he was with the Bears.
I still don’t know if Campbell is the answer, but McNabb, Orton and Palmer shure aren’t.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
lol just saying we dont need to get a new QB year to year i like the idea of some consistency!!!!
December 19th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Indy found their stroke today its going to be a tough game and they need to play a hell of alot better than they did today to win.
December 19th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Glad Cable finally chewed these guys out at halftime and told them to wake the hell up if they don’t want to be embarrased at home versus a rookie QB, and if they truly want to have a chance at playoffs.
JC seems like he is finally getting a rythem going and of course it helps when you have a dominant running game.
Losing Hue Jackson would be a major blow to this football team on offense and would hurt JC’s progression.
I believe he signed a two year contract did he not??
Raider Nation needs to go to NFL.COM and VOTE for DMC, Nnamdi, T Kelley, Gallery, and maybe even Seymour for the Pro Bowl. Lechler and Condo as well.
R McClain and J Ford should definitely make the All Rookie Team! Maybe even Veldheer and Houston.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Cables contract is up this year I cant see AL extending him. Its going to be a interesting offseason as they are all in Oakland.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
Gotta collapse the middle of the pocket and pressure Manning up the middle to get him off rythem.
The Indy WR’s need to be bumped at the line all game long practically.
Raiders on offense need to POUND the rock and ram it down the Indy defenses throats with DMC, Bush and Reece.
Control the time of possesion on offense and score TD’s to keep Manning off the field.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
You guys knocking the secondary saying we need help there make no sense. We have the no. 7 pass d in terms of ypg and the no. 2 pass d in terms of opponents comp. pct. We just allowed 8 completions today and y’all are saying we need to upgrade the secondary. Please explain.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Anybody that would take kyle Orton over JC isn’t cognizant of some very easy facts. Kyle Orton was BENCHED for a rookie experiment.
The guy you saw play today toook his job, you hav eto be double dumb to even consider it. Ortoin is a statue, when JC was struggling throwing he took off and got us soem important 1sr downs until he had his passing game togetther. Some look at his checkdowns a laugh but the coach looks at them and smiles gladfully. Part of winning is knowing when you’re not going well and making the necessary adjustments to win the game. Looking pretty is one thing winning is another. When you have the type of talent we have out of the backfield and the lack of talent outside you would be DUMB to ignore it just so you can throw another incomplete pass to DHB or Murphy.
Cut the nonesense and talk sense he plaed the game he had to play to win………….period
December 19th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
MistaTheGuru Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Indy found their stroke today its going to be a tough game and they need to play a hell of alot better than they did today to win.
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We thoroughly dominated today. Defense was awful on the Tebow run and the other score was lucky and questionable. We do need to stop allowing these long scores, but if we physically dominate next week like we did today we’ll have a shot.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
priesttj,
Every time DMAC breaks a big run I cant help but think about all the times you pissed on him after the draft.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
I think if Cable and the team beats Indy, the old man will almost have to give Cable at least a 2 year extension.
I think Hue Jackson has a 2 year contract as well.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:06 pm
priesttj,
I never seen you give J Ford props, why?
Because you dropped to your knee’s for A Shields, C Schilens, and Nick Miller the Db Killer?
December 19th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Tim TeaBag said “I think I did good” when asked what he felt about the game!
December 19th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
priesttj,
Your expertise on Qb’s, Wr’s, and Rb’s is dismal at best. So what area do you have some knowledge ?
December 19th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
lol @ Tim Teabag
December 19th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Hell I watched Joe Montana go to the HOF throwing checkdowns for TD’s and people have the nerve to dismiss the same when it comes to JC any QB wiuth half a brain would get the ball to DMC in this offense. Knowing what Reece can do in openfield with the football shows a high football IQ. Who are you going to throw it to a bunch of inconsistent WR’s running bad routes.
Just because you were born ignorant doesn’t mean you have to stay that way your whole life. Get a freakin clue!!
December 19th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
ford should be our no.1 healthy shilens no.2 and murphy no.3
December 19th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
The WR corp has plenty of depth now with the development of J Ford.
Just need DHB (especially) and L Murphy to step it up in the critical Year 3 of WR development.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
But tj you said DMAC was a 1 dimentional skinny legged RB that goes down too easy, has no moves, and we DONT need him…..period
Remember?
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priesttj Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
Hell I watched Joe Montana go to the HOF throwing checkdowns for TD’s and people have the nerve to dismiss the same when it comes to JC any QB wiuth half a brain would get the ball to DMC in this offense.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
137.Chris in NY Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
You guys knocking the secondary saying we need help there make no sense. We have the no. 7 pass d in terms of ypg and the no. 2 pass d in terms of opponents comp. pct. We just allowed 8 completions today and y’all are saying we need to upgrade the secondary. Please explain.
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Not knocking the secondary. Sure we have a good pass d. We played the NFC west this year. Been torched a bit by better qbs’. And today, we faced a first time starter. We got a good secondary for sure, but will need to shore it up for the tougher teams next year with better quarterbacks.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Some people can’t accept the fact that they were dead wrong about something and just sgut the hell up. Instead they continue down down the same damned road because they can’t man up and admit hey! I was wrong and move the hell on.
YOU ARE A BORE!!
December 19th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Donald Brown had a heck of a game this week! We will need to be on our toes with guy!
December 19th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
When have you been right? Lets start there…
lol
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# priesttj Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
Some people can’t accept the fact that they were dead wrong about something and just sgut the hell up. Instead they continue down down the same damned road because they can’t man up and admit hey! I was wrong and move the hell on.
YOU ARE A BORE!!
December 19th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
149.priesttj Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
YOU ARE A BORE!!
****
A Boar is a Male wild Pig with Tusks.
And thay tastw dang good!
December 19th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Mc Nabb? Are u guys serious? Why the he** would u guys want MC Nabb? He just had the worst season of his career and got benched because he is BAD no matter what Shanarat said. He is getting old and is most definitely on the downside of his career and will only get worse. More int’s than td’s and he has Chris Cooley and Santana Moss to throw to, how the he** do u think he’d do with our receivers? You certainly can’t expect better results.
There’s a reason the Eagles let him go to a team in their OWN DIVISION.
MC Nabb had a nice career but HE IS DONE!!!
December 19th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
TEN held D. Brown to 38yds on 15 carries
December 19th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
McNabb to McFadden….. lol
December 19th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
Is it me or do yall fell pretty darn comfortable with our run D? I just fell like we can stop anyone anytime, without knots in my stomach. How much of this is John Henderson? How much Lamar Houston? J. Marshell?
December 19th, 2010 at 10:19 pm
ill pass
December 19th, 2010 at 10:20 pm
A nice move would be to cut JLH and trade Chaz and then sign Vincent Jackson!
Oh yeah! LOL
December 19th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
OK, Priest, I was wrong. Jason Campbell isn’t the worst QB on the face of the earth. He just sucks horribly. Is that better?
December 19th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
We don’t have a bad secondary at all. Guys just need to focus a bit more they 8 completions they gave up should have been at least 3 picks and Routt doing what he did today is what made Cable go bullistic. He ghave a TD rec when it went straight through his hands UNACCEPTABLE. He also was flagged because he was playing unsound technigue. He is much better than that than to give that up to a rookie playing his first game. Same with CJ they have to play better for us to take he next steps as team and play well consistently.
Tebow threw at least 3 picks and we got NONE of them.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Is Bush sliding a bit? Or is it just the “type” of carries he is getting? Less that 500yds on the season.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
154.djohnnyg Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Mc Nabb? Are u guys serious? Why the he** would u guys want MC Nabb? He just had the worst season of his career and got benched because he is BAD no matter what Shanarat said. He is getting old and is most definitely on the downside of his career and will only get worse. More int’s than td’s and he has Chris Cooley and Santana Moss to throw to, how the he** do u think he’d do with our receivers? You certainly can’t expect better results.
There’s a reason the Eagles let him go to a team in their OWN DIVISION.
MC Nabb had a nice career but HE IS DONE!!!
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Agreed. However I would hope Al would pick him up only if we got say, like their #2 draft pick with him too. Then Cable could cut him in the pre-seoson and we still got their 2012 #2 pick. But that likely won’t happen, so not to worry.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
bullistic?
LMFAO
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priesttj Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
We don’t have a bad secondary at all. Guys just need to focus a bit more they 8 completions they gave up should have been at least 3 picks and Routt doing what he did today is what made Cable go bullistic.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Instead of pining away for old washed QB’s like the sloppy seconds of Mike Shanahan you may as well go after Brett Favre for a year.
The argument may be that we have a better running game than Washington, which is true, and that would help, but we can do better than than Mc Nabb.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
160.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
OK, Priest, I was wrong. Jason Campbell isn’t the worst QB on the face of the earth. He just sucks horribly. Is that better?
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We must upgrade the QB posisition ASAP! We have a yound team don’t wast it with this dummy, or another scrub/has been. Make a trade of a REAL QB sell off anyone you have to in order to get him, Picks, players, cash!!! Thw window is door is open, let the DOG IN!!
December 19th, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Man if we had Brett Favvvrey all season, we would be in the Play offs fo sure!
Need 1A is a very good VET WR..
December 19th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Wouldn’t be shocked if Vince Young is our QB next year. Not saying it will happen, but it’s certainly possible.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
I would go after Kevin Kolb if we could get him. I think one thing that the Raider improvement to relavence brings with it is the chance of getting some good free agents to come who may see Oakland as a legit opportunity to be a winner now.
Winning solves a lot of problems.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
I’m tired of seeing Murphy run those ugly ass routes he never comes back to the ball he comsistently lets the DB mak a play on the ball on his sideline route. All he has to do is come back to the QB more and it’s an easy completion. Our rec’s run the worse routes except for Ford and Chaz but Chaz has no rapore with the QB.
That’s why he has to cha=eck down so often these guys are really struggling and it’s showng on film because the DB’s all play them the same way the play them physical and alll they do is complain to the refs instead of getting better.
If these guys just run more crisp routes and run them aggressively they would make a ton of plays and get the calls they think they should get.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
I saw the same thing when I was studying his still photos.
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priesttj Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:30 pm
I’m tired of seeing Murphy run those ugly ass routes he never comes back to the ball
December 19th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
So how is J. For doing compared to C.J. Spiller?
December 19th, 2010 at 10:37 pm
id say way better
December 19th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Campbell is solid when he has a ton of time, but as we saw in Pittsburgh, Tennessee and other times he pretty much crumbles against a good pass rush.
Not sure where to find such stats, but if you looked at pct of passes that go less than 10 yards and pct of passes not to WRs, I suspect he’s leading the league by a mile.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:40 pm
I think J. Ford can be our #1 in a year or two. Now we need a #1 for 2 years, ane find #2,3,4 of the futer.
Roster hopfulls include;
Ford, and Murphy.
DHB as a # 3 deep threat/blocking/decoy/red zone
N. Miller, and JLH i say cut bait with um!
Chaz…..Chaz Wave him? Trade him for a 5th? Give him 1 more year? Would be a dream if he came back 100% never to be hurt again… not very likly.
So we need to draft WR, QB, DB, and O-line
December 19th, 2010 at 10:42 pm
173.Chris in NY Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Campbell is solid when he has a ton of time, but as we saw in Pittsburgh, Tennessee and other times he pretty much crumbles against a good pass rush.
Not sure where to find such stats, but if you looked at pct of passes that go less than 10 yards and pct of passes not to WRs, I suspect he’s leading the league by a mile.
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All of this = Cr@p! Dude is a slow thinking dummy.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Poins wise our D is not as good as they look. we have given up 330 points.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:50 pm
Same dumbells singing the same songs only they don’t have their little hero Gradkowski to lean on. As slow as he is he’s a damn sight better than your little hero…….betcha that damn much………..lol
December 19th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
I’m afraid Hue Jack won’t be back. The improvement with this offense has been remarkable and word is he’s a leading candidate to take over in Cincy.
If that happens, I’d be strongly in favor of bringing in — don’t laugh — McDaniels as OC
December 19th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
As much as I love watching Grads, the guy doesn’t have a good IQ when it comes to protecting his neck. Bad awareness from both of our QBs. That is definitely why our QBs keep getting hurt and ONE good reason why we lost some of these games. Bad awareness.
December 19th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
At least we know where you stand……….lol
December 19th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Priesttj, you are the farthest thing from being a fan and all you do is incite arguments. My analysis is that you are nothing more than a ‘fair-weather’ fan with very little positive things to say.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Bad awareness? now exactly what does that mean? Awareness that a DE is going to knock the crap out of them and they should duck? what awareness?? players get hurt getting hurt is of part of this game don’t believe me check the unjured list for QB’s that didn’t play today……….where do these guys come from??
December 19th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Jason has those eyes where he is locked on one receiver and never takes his eyes off of him, unaware of surrounding pass rushers. Where as someone like M. Vick is ,most of the time, aware of open receivers and the pass rushers that surround him. That kind of awareness.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
And you’re a freakin idiot
December 19th, 2010 at 11:14 pm
priest, Campbell sucks. Everyone knows it.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Yeah and so do you and everyone knows it.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
# thetragicblackmajick Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Priesttj, you are the farthest thing from being a fan and all you do is incite arguments. My analysis is that you are nothing more than a ‘fair-weather’ fan with very little positive things to say.
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ttbm,
are you sure that you aren’t mistaking Priest for
Realmaddenraider?
Priest is one of the most diehard Raider fans on this entire blog. He is almost always optimistic about the Raiders even when they stink up the football field.
The description you just gave is the carbon copy of RealMaddenRaider.
Anyway, since you’re new, just thought I’d clarify…
December 19th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Raiders Demolish Denver part 2
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2010_regular_season
December 19th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
The little hero isn’t around to give you guys some contraversy huh! Well you can catch him at his next stop, the UFL.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
129.texguy Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
117.aig-raiders Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Kyle Orton has ZERO ground game or D support and got 20 TD’s vs 9 ints and 3600 yds. Yeah he would suck worst on a team with our D and super stud DMAC. You guys sure make a lot of sense.
Jeff George –
1997 Oakland Raiders 290 Comp 521 Att 55.7 Pct 3,917 Yds 29 TD 9 INT 91.2 Rating.
1997 Record – 4-12
Sometimes guys put up garbage time numbers that make them look good. Orton is just one of those guys. Had one of the best defenses in the nation in Chicago and still couldn’t win when he was with the Bears.
I still don’t know if Campbell is the answer, but McNabb, Orton and Palmer shure aren’t.
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Tex,
going by your logic, then JC’s best stat year was last year and he went 4-12. JC has never had a winning season. I’m no fan of Kyle Orton but he has won before. According to Wiki, he has a career W/L of 32-29. that’s a whole lot better than JC 24-34.
JC pads his stats and today was a prime example. He was having a lousy day until Reece and DMAC padded his stats to make it a respectable 60 something rating. You take those 2 dump offs away (DMAC was not even a good pass) and you prob get a low 30’s rating today.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
13. Chris, Raiders are cranking off 500 yd games for the first time since…I don’t know when, Gannon I suppose.
They’re doing it with Campbell at the helm. He’s not the answer yet and benefits from DMC and the ground game but I for one am glad to see more than 16 points a game on the scoreboard
December 19th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
Old man can block any team from talking to Hue about a head coaching job, since he is under contract I believe.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
Insane….you leave JC in there for now. The offense has scored 30+ in last 3 games and has done well in 3 other games with him at the helm.
Palmer, McNabb and Orton are just retreads that would have to go through the same adjustment period that JC did.
Just roll with with JC next year and draft a young QB to groom.
The big issue is the defense playing consistently for 4 QTRs and a wide receiver
December 19th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Of which…Palmer and Orton have good receiving corps now and are struggling…..Coming here, they would be working with lesser wide outs….not a recipe for success.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
And plug and play with QBs rarely works.
Invested a year getting JC up to speed….no point in starting all over again with another retread.
Again, a 35 yard kick in the desert and a 5 safety defensive set is the difference between the playoffs right now….not JC’s play
December 19th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
If we can not manage to find any better QB’s then we still should go 12-4 in 2011 behind a great run O, and a great pass D. We still need some help on the run D.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
Priest,Orton wasn’t benched for the rookie,he is injured.Just thought I’d clear that up.Also,your dislike for BG is showing while you always said you didn’t have any bias towards him.JC is without a doubt our QB-now and for sure next year-so why even bring up BG at all.Don’t get so upset.Anyone that thinks we should replace Campbell with Orton or McNabb obviously don’t know how the old guy works.It won’t happen.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
# thetragicblackmajick Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Priesttj, you are the farthest thing from being a fan and all you do is incite arguments. My analysis is that you are nothing more than a ‘fair-weather’ fan with very little positive things to say.
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ttbm,
are you sure that you aren’t mistaking Priest for
Realmaddenraider?
Priest is one of the most diehard Raider fans on this entire blog. He is almost always optimistic about the Raiders even when they stink up the football field.
The description you just gave is the carbon copy of RealMaddenRaider.
Anyway, since you’re new, just thought I’d clarify…
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I am new. I will shut my mouth about his so called credibility on a blog. I have no credibility as to what problems can be solved on this team of ours. He feels as if he does when he has no control whatsoever. It’s quite laughable if you think about it. But it’s all in fun.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
*doesn’t know …
December 19th, 2010 at 11:34 pm
195.SnB Production Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
And plug and play with QBs rarely works.
Invested a year getting JC up to speed….no point in starting all over again with another retread.
Again, a 35 yard kick in the desert and a 5 safety defensive set is the difference between the playoffs right now….not JC’s play
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Very true. If we end up with JC as our QB we should still expect 12-4ish in 2011
December 19th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Another-sideline-tripping-incident-earns-?urn=nfl-297986
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So much for every guy leaving the Raiders going onto greatness.
This and kicking a Seattle TE in the nuts will be Brayton’s best known hits.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Priest is without a doubt one of the biggest diehards on here or anywhere for that matter.Talk to him like you’d like him to talk to you and you won’t have any problems.He is very opinionated but present your side and he will talk it out.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
Kyle Orton is having no trouble putting up passing production with better WR’s than the Raiders. However, Kyle Orton is not winning because he aint got the same D as the Raiders and DMAC in the back field. Those are facts.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
197. No sh-ite, look how long he stayed with Russell or any number of players any other team would’ve cut.
Can’t see Campbell getting the axe just yet
December 19th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Lefty12 I know it aint gonna happen I just get real tired of the hatred toward a player who’s doing the job better than anyone we’ve had in 5 years. And don’t think I don’t know why that hatred exist.
They have this longing for Gradkowski and can’t accept the fact that JC is getting it done.
I call him the little hero because that is who and what he is to them IMHO. They can’t seem to let it go. JC is going to have games where he stuggles every QB does but to keep up this bullcrap is ridiculous.
Let the guy play we’re winning and should’ve won last week if not for an untimely return. What else is there? NOW all of a sudden a win aint good enough it has to be done a certain way? You and everyone else knows that is BULLCRAP!! that’s why I incite them the way I do……….period
December 19th, 2010 at 11:46 pm
203. Orton ain’t even got a coach!
McDaniels gutted that team its like what would’ve happened if we kept Kiffin.
Orton’s only good unmolested. Campbell’s proving he can create on the move. Its impressive and unexpected.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
AIG,you know I’m not that big of a Campbell backer,but you can’t constantly say look at the fact Campbell has never won then stump for Orton and make excuses because he has never won.JC is going to be our QB whether anyone likes it or not.All we should do is root for him because he is wearing the Silver and Black,just as you’d want others to root for,say Grads,if he was the starter.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Alright alright. I do have faith in Campbell to get the job done and he WILL. Grad is definitely worth back up status. Jason just has some things to improve on. Snap count being one and being more aware of his surroundings when he’s in the pocket for more than 3 seconds. THAT’S IT. Literally. I love the man’s accuracy. His WR’s need to work on their routes and make a fighting attempt to catch that ball like their life depended on it.
Priest, I’m sorry for being an a$$. Please forgive me.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
# thetragicblackmajick Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 11:51 pm
Priest, I’m sorry for being an a$$. Please forgive me.
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thetragicblackmajick,
I honestly think you were trying to call out Realmaddenraider and you targeted Priest by accident.
The description you gave didn’t fit Priest at all.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Priest something that bothers me is we lost last week due to the Def and the big return,while in Ariz. we lost because of the kicker,yet some put the blame on Grad for the AZ loss,yet are quick to put the blame on the kicker and the return team for last week.That is the same double standard they complained was used against JC earlier in the year.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Lefty,
How am I making excuses? Tex said that Orton’s stas is inflated by showing his W/L and I am trying to tell him the guy with the inflated stat throughout his career is JC. That pretty much shows that Tex’ logic doesnt work. If Tex wants to use W/L, then Orton, Palmer, and McNabb all have better Winning % than JC. You can’t have it both ways.
No I am not going to root for a guy because Al Davis says he is our QB. NEVER HAVE AND NEVER WILL DO BLIND SUPPORT. I rooted for Jawalrus too at one point as well as JC. When the guy sucks, I will not root for him. JC is not a good QB by any imagination. You guys have been blind by the W’s this year and conveniently forget to actually recognize how those games were won.
Hell no, I was on here to readily admit when Grad sucked against Mia. I will always call a spade a spade.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Demarcus Love any thoughts?
December 19th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
I am aware of RMR. Waaaaaaaay before I decided to register to this blog and was nothing more than a spectator. That guy is a demon.
December 19th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Alex Linnenkohl???
December 19th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
213.thetragicblackmajick Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
I am aware of RMR. Waaaaaaaay before I decided to register to this blog and was nothing more than a spectator. That guy is a demon.
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What makes MR a demon?
December 20th, 2010 at 12:00 am
I’m all about winning nothing else the rest of this criticism for criticism sake is about personal preference. WE need a stable QB situation and had we had that we would be in the playoffs IMO.
Next year that cannot be a factor in what we’re trying to do we need that situatoon to be as stable as possible. Anything else is lunacy IMO. Who that QB is doesn’t mattter to me as much as he has to be a stabilizing factor on this team…………period
December 20th, 2010 at 12:01 am
Blackmajik
No he was not accurate today. Did you even watch the game today? The guy couldnt even hit guys in checkdowns. Through 3 qtrs we had over 200 yds rushing and JC had only a 100 yds passing with 2 ints. Reece’s 73 yd dumpoff and DMAC’s 21 yd catch and run were what made his day respectable in the 4th qtr.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:02 am
AIG-in my opinion you should always root for any player on the team you root for.You don’t have to like the guy or anything like that,but you should root for the uniform.I never liked Gannon,but I rooted for him while he wore the Silver and Black.Same went for Romo,even though I respected the way he played the game,because he was an ex whiner and donkey.After all,players come and go but the UNIFORM is always there.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:06 am
Lefty,
I’m not like that at all. I understand your point but no I will not root for guys that can’t play or wont put in efforts. For example, I stopped rooting for Jawalrus once I realized he didnt put in the efforts. If they re-sign JR and Al starts him, will you be rooting for him too? I wouldnt. You’re patient with DHB but I dont think he should start over Ford, Murphy or Schilens.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Another home win! Went to the game hooked up with Bauce and Norco! Cool peeps! Sat in the rain like a real trooper and watched my team win. Next week is Indi, I’ll be there again go Raiders!!!!!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:07 am
AIG, he definitely wasn’t sharp today. But he was ever so sharp against Jacksonville. I was there for that one personally. Every dog has there day. But you learn from your mistakes and try to shake them off day after day, week after week.
218. Lefty, That’s the spirit that I can believe in.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:09 am
J Ford is our best receiver hands down! Better than chaz Murphy and DHB!!!!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Who controls the stability of the QB position? It was gifted to JC and his own poor plays were the reasons why our OC benched him. You can’t blame anyone else but JC for his benching.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:10 am
Lefty12 are you really comparing Jax game to the AZ game? we blew 4 redzone opportunities in the AZ game. The end result IMO was unwise coaching I would have never ran the clock down without taking a shot in the endzone so my kicker can take shot at it. We were down 2 points you have to try to score a TD 1st then if you fail use the kicker. I don’t blame that game on Gradkowski as much as I balme it on Cable.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:11 am
JC will improve.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:14 am
AIG-I rooted for the bust until it was evident he wasn’t giving any effort and was letting the team down,but he is the rare exception.Campbell may not be the best at what he does,but I know he is giving the effort and doing his best.If we could get a dramatic upgrade of course I’d be for it,but that would mean a Manning,Brady,or Brees type and it isn’t going to happen.I’m not for changing just for change sake.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:17 am
BMJ,
I hear ya. I guess I am very pessimistic with JC because I have yet to see him do well when our ground game or D is not having a good day. What we are seeing this year is very consistent with what the Skins base complained about him. Some see it as glass half full and I see it as glass half empty. That’s just my opinon and have a good nite.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:18 am
# lefty12 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 12:14 am
AIG-I rooted for the bust until it was evident he wasn’t giving any effort and was letting the team down,but he is the rare exception.Campbell may not be the best at what he does,but I know he is giving the effort and doing his best.If we could get a dramatic upgrade of course I’d be for it,but that would mean a Manning,Brady,or Brees type and it isn’t going to happen.I’m not for changing just for change sake.
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Couldn’t agree more.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:22 am
Lefty,
Where we differ (and I respect your blogs on here) is that you think upgrading JC will need to be at the superstar levels in this league. I dont even think JC is even avg right now. You will not find many QB’s looking bad when the ground game is over 200 yds. I doubt McNabb/Orton/Palmer would struggle if they have DMAC in the backfield. John Elway was a stud QB in the league already but he couldnt win until TD arrived. I sincerely believe that an avg QB would instantly make us a playoff team. Good nite bro.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:23 am
Priest,I wasn’t referring to you.Others came right out and said the loss was his fault.It was those I was referring to.I was just using that game to make a point,probably a bad example-the fish game was a better one.But there were those who put all the blame on BG for games we lost when he played,yet found other reasons for us losing in games JC started giving him no blame what-so-ever.Double standards were shown by supporters of both players.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:26 am
228.thetragicblackmajick Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 12:18 am
# lefty12 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 12:14 am
AIG-I rooted for the bust until it was evident he wasn’t giving any effort and was letting the team down,but he is the rare exception.Campbell may not be the best at what he does,but I know he is giving the effort and doing his best.If we could get a dramatic upgrade of course I’d be for it,but that would mean a Manning,Brady,or Brees type and it isn’t going to happen.I’m not for changing just for change sake.
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Couldn’t agree more.
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As sorry as a passing O we have, me must pull the trigger on ANY up-grade @ QB ANY!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:27 am
Peyton Manning, IND – There’s nothing to discuss here. Manning will stay in Indianapolis. It’s just a matter of getting the numbers ironed out.
Tom Brady, NE – Like Manning, there’s little doubt about Brady. Belichick has a little more volatility in his decision-making and more reliance in his system, but barring a major shocker, Brady will remain in New England.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:28 am
Matt Moore, CAR – Moore heads into the season as the starting quarterback, but with rookies Jimmy Clausen and Tony Pike, the Panthers have several options if Moore doesn’t pan out. Depending upon his play this year, Moore could have a lucrative offer in his agents’ office by mid-season or could be kicked to the curb at the end of the year in favor of other options. The former seems more likely based upon his stellar performance in starting appearances.
Kyle Orton, DEN – With Tim Tebow as the likely “future” of Denver, Kyle Orton may have a limited career in Denver, making him one of the better potential commodities at the position this year. Orton has proven to be a solid, albeit unspectacular starter, who could keep a team competitive on offense
December 20th, 2010 at 12:29 am
Troy Smith, BAL
Trent Edwards, BUF
JT O’Sullivan, CIN
Seneca Wallace, CLE
Shaun Hill, DET
Brodie Croyle, KC
Chad Pennington, MIA
Tyler Thigpen, MIA
Tarvaris Jackson, MIN
Jim Sorgi, NYG
Kellen Clemens, NYJ
Bruce Gradkowski, OAK
Michael Vick, PHI
Dennis Dixon, PIT
Billy Volek, SD
Kerry Collins, TEN
Chris Simms, TEN
Rex Grossman, WAS
None of theese guy are any better than JC.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:32 am
An upgrade would be great.However,are the 3 mentioned really an upgrade?I don’t think they are.The only one who might be is Palmer and I’m not even sure about him.Besides,he’d probably cost too much to find out about.And seeing the progress the team is making,is that chance worth the risk of trying.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:33 am
# Chris in NY Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
You guys knocking the secondary saying we need help there make no sense. We have the no. 7 pass d in terms of ypg and the no. 2 pass d in terms of opponents comp. pct. We just allowed 8 completions today and y’all are saying we need to upgrade the secondary. Please explain.
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Happy to…
Huff = Anthony Dorsett
Routt = Torin Dorn
enough explaining
December 20th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Ok I got a question.. Funny huh.
Before Jason Campbell ever landed in Oakland, and Orton was still with the Bears, and Cuttler was with the Donks… WHO was the BEST QB??
December 20th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Huff > Anthony Dorsett Huff knows angles and can play CB
Routt > Torin Dorn Routt can go get the pick, and cover, even tackle a lil bit.
They are both killer on ST
December 20th, 2010 at 12:40 am
I see Orton as another Kitna-career back-up supreme.However,I’m not sure Tebow will be the donkey’s future.They will be bringing in a new coach and there is no guarantee Tebow will be his man,therefore Orton might be kept .On the list above,D.Dixon is intriguing,but he is also injury prone.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:42 am
237.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 12:36 am
Ok I got a question.. Funny huh.
Before Jason Campbell ever landed in Oakland, and Orton was still with the Bears, and Cuttler was with the Donks… WHO was the BEST QB??
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Ok, my answer is Cuttler. Now Cuttler is not a FA tell like 2014 so we will have to trade form him.
Question, what is he worth?
December 20th, 2010 at 12:48 am
WR Miles Austin UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
WR Plaxico Burress UFA Free Agent Free Agent
WR Brian Clark RFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
WR Mark Clayton UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
WR Brian Finneran UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
WR Derek Hagan UFA New York Giants Free Agent
wR Johnnie Lee Higgins UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
WR Santonio Holmes UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
WR Joe Horn UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
WR Dwayne Jarrett UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
WR Jacoby Jones UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
WR Jamal Jones UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
WR James Jones UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
WR Matt Jones UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
WR Greg Lewis UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
WR Randy Moss UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
WR Legedu Naanee UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
WR Terrell Owens UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
WR Sidney Rice UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
WR Laurent Robinson UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
WR Ryne Robinson UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
WR Steve E. Smith UFA New York Giants Free Agent
WR Brandon Stokley UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
WR Chansi Stuckey UFA New York Jets Free Agent
WR Limas Sweed UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
WR Troy Williamson UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
OK, who lites you fire on this list?
December 20th, 2010 at 12:50 am
Giants | Steve Smith injury update
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Updating a previous item, the New York Giants expect WR Steve E. Smith (knee) back by the beginning of next season after Smith has surgery to repair articular cartilage damage, according to Hank Gola, of the New York Daily News. The complications, however, may not be that simple. According to a source with knowledge of Smith’s injury, team orthopedic surgeon Dr. Russell Warren will perform a complex combination of microfracture and mosaicplasty procedures in an attempt to regenerate the cartilage. Smith’s rehab will be long and may not allow him to run before June. “If he’s lucky in four months he has some cushion there, but it’s really not strong enough at that point to run and jump on,” said Dr. Nick DiNubile, former orthopedic surgeon for the Philadelphia 76ers. “One of the mistakes the athletes make is that they come back too soon with this and they really should give it six months before they even try to run on it because the stuff that forms is relatively weak and you can knock it right off again.”
Smith should come cheap, with risks.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:51 am
Free-agent WR Plaxico Burress’ (Giants) agent, Drew Rosenhaus, said two teams have remained in contact with him about Burress, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. Burress’ release date is unknown at this time, but Rosenhaus is confident that Burress will play in the NFL in 2011.
Any one thinkin twicw about this guy?
December 20th, 2010 at 12:53 am
Gallery Barns, and Henderson all FA in 2011… Who do we keep? Gallery! and the best RT of the two “also ran’s”
December 20th, 2010 at 12:55 am
Oakland Raiders
Pos Player Name FA Status Previous Team Current Team
QB Charlie Frye RFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
QB Bruce Gradkowski RFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
RB Michael Bush UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
WR Johnnie Lee Higgins UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
TE Zach Miller UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OT Khalif Barnes UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OT Mario Henderson UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
OG Robert Gallery UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
C Samson Satele UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
DL Jay Richardson UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
DL Terdell Sands UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
DL Warren Sapp UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
DL Richard Seymour UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
LB Kirk Morrison UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
Strang list of our FA
December 20th, 2010 at 12:58 am
All three.Didn’t you see Barnes draw that double team on McFadden’s big swing pass yesterday-LOL.Plax would be worth a shot,but I bet the Gents will try to resign him.
December 20th, 2010 at 1:00 am
Nick Mangold, NYJ – Over the past two years, Mangold has unquestionably emerged as the league’s most dominant center. After Revis, Mangold figures to be the next most important extension the Jets will iron out prior to the season’s end.
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Message to Sants cc: Al Davis cc: Amy Trask
Do what it takes to get Mangold to Oakland! This would give your team REAL stability inside, and second level blocking. If you then drafted Stephen Wisniewski for RG you WILL WIN THE SUPERBOWL!
December 20th, 2010 at 1:01 am
Where did you get that list from-Rich,Sands,Sapp,and Kirk?
December 20th, 2010 at 1:02 am
246.lefty12 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 12:58 am
All three.Didn’t you see Barnes draw that double team on McFadden’s big swing pass yesterday-LOL.Plax would be worth a shot,but I bet the Gents will try to resign him.
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Think we can sign all 3? Would that be money well spent?
December 20th, 2010 at 1:02 am
BTW,I wouldn’t resign any of those 4 guys.LOL
December 20th, 2010 at 1:03 am
248.lefty12 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 1:01 am
Where did you get that list from-Rich,Sands,Sapp,and Kirk?
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I don’t think thet took into consideration some guy are already gone via trade, waiv, ans such.
December 20th, 2010 at 1:04 am
250.lefty12 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 1:02 am
BTW,I wouldn’t resign any of those 4 guys.LOL
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What 4 guys?
December 20th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Sidney Rice!
December 20th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Barnes and Hendu would be cheap and are good depth.Also,Hendu just might be our future RT.I heard Flores say after the game that he watched him when Walker went out today and thought he did a good job.
December 20th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Ryan Kalil, CAR – The Panthers will surely attempt to re-sign Kalil next offseason, but don’t expect the team to use the franchise tag on him. Offensive linemen are grouped together for the tag values, which mean Kalil would likely be making an average of the top 5 left tackles, the highest paid position on the line. Still, it shouldn’t be too difficult for the two sides to reach a deal
December 20th, 2010 at 1:06 am
What 4 guys?-Sapp,Sands,Kirk,or Richardson.
December 20th, 2010 at 1:07 am
Tyson Clabo, ATL
Doug Free, DAL
Ryan Harris, DEN
Jon Jansen, DET
Charlie Johnson, IND
Tony Ugoh, IND
Ryan O’Callaghan, KC
Mario Henderson, OAK
Khalif Barnes, OAK
Jeromey Clary, SD
Ray Willis, SEA
Jeremy Trueblood, TB
Stephon Heyer, WAS
Reggie Wells, ARI
Deuce Lutui, ARI
Lyle Sendlein, ARI
Quinn Ojinnaka, ATL
Justin Blalock, ATL
Harvey Dahl, ATL
Marshal Yanda, BAL
Chris Chester, BAL
Josh Beekman, CHI
Olin Kreutz, CHI
Nate Livings, CIN
Kyle Cook, CIN
Kyle Kosier, DAL
Manuel Ramirez, DET
Jason Spitz, GB
Uche Nwaneri, JAC
Casey Wiegmann, KC
Rudy Niswanger, KC
Richie Incognito, MIA
Jonathan Goodwin, NO
Chris Morris, OAK
Samson Satele, OAK
Max Jean-Gilles, PHI
Nick Cole, PHI
David Baas, SF
Chris Spencer, SEA
John Greco, STL
Mark Setterstrom, STL
Davin Joseph, TB
Leroy Harris, TEN
Scrap heap O-line FA’s 2011
December 20th, 2010 at 1:08 am
256.lefty12 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 1:06 am
What 4 guys?-Sapp,Sands,Kirk,or Richardson.
*** Oh, yay.. don’t know whats up wit dat.
December 20th, 2010 at 1:34 am
# The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 12:48 am
WR Miles Austin UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
WR Plaxico Burress UFA Free Agent Free Agent
WR Brian Clark RFA Detroit Lions Free Agent
WR Mark Clayton UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
WR Brian Finneran UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
WR Derek Hagan UFA New York Giants Free Agent
wR Johnnie Lee Higgins UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
WR Santonio Holmes UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
WR Joe Horn UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
WR Dwayne Jarrett UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
WR Jacoby Jones UFA Houston Texans Free Agent
WR Jamal Jones UFA Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
WR James Jones UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
WR Matt Jones UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
WR Greg Lewis UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
WR Randy Moss UFA Tennessee Titans Free Agent
WR Legedu Naanee UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
WR Terrell Owens UFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
WR Sidney Rice UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
WR Laurent Robinson UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
WR Ryne Robinson UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
WR Steve E. Smith UFA New York Giants Free Agent
WR Brandon Stokley UFA Denver Broncos Free Agent
WR Chansi Stuckey UFA New York Jets Free Agent
WR Limas Sweed UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
WR Troy Williamson UFA Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
OK, who lites you fire on this list?
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The million dollar question is, which one of those players has their fire lit by the thought of playing for perhaps the most dysfunctional franchise of the past 10 years?
December 20th, 2010 at 2:54 am
WR Plaxico Burress UFA Free Agent Free Agent
IS the man!
Sweed must want a new start too.
December 20th, 2010 at 3:21 am
J Hill Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
Lasting image of the game was Satele on skates when Williams was pushing him into the backfield.
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LOL.
In the draft we need to look for a center and a qb for the future.
December 20th, 2010 at 3:28 am
“Step on their throat.’’
“Pride and Poise” was replaced by “Committment to Excellence” and now we have “Step on their throat”.
I like that one but personally I always preferred two things that Al just said without looking for a motto:
“The quarterback must go down and he must go down hard”
And the best of all…….
“JUST WIN BABY!”
December 20th, 2010 at 3:40 am
And then we have the new motto of the donkies:
“Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!, Oh, (bleep)!’’
December 20th, 2010 at 4:47 am
Can’t for the life of me wonder why anyone would bag on Huff. He’s been balling as of late, and yesterday finally hitting/tackling low. Played a hell of a game. Routt has been playing awesome lately. One ball got through his hands.(s#$@ happens) He’s been the best corner on the team the last 5 weeks. Play calling has a lot to do with QB play and Hue has proved it the last three weeks. Jason is playing good ball and has shown he can handle the s##$ getting knocked out of him. Two more games like that and he’s back (McNabb who)I’d rather have Orton myself, but don’t really think either is an option. Probably late round QB at best, and not a bad idea.
December 20th, 2010 at 5:07 am
Why in Tebow’s name would anyone want to bring McNabb to Oakland? That is absolute lunacy – particularly coming from Campbell haters.
McNabb is one of the most unclutch quarterbacks in history considering his overall statistics and record. If he couldn’t get it done with the likes of Westbrook and T.O., what makes you think his geriatric retreaded self would be any better in Oakland? He’s a washup. Done. Kaput.
Stop being stupid.
December 20th, 2010 at 5:14 am
Plenty of stupid to go around looking at these posts.
raiders will be contenders now.
That’s all that matters.
We need an elite QB but Campbell has shown he deserves a shot.
DB’s need some shoring up.
and more LB’s like McClain.
Cable needs to stay.
It’s happening.
December 20th, 2010 at 5:15 am
The best Davis quote is “get ovah it”
December 20th, 2010 at 5:24 am
I imagine Al day to day uses all his catch-phrases constantly
Eg…
At a restaurant, to the waiter: “just ketchup, baby”
At home, to his nursing aid: “i just ask for commitment to excrement”
On the road, to his chauffeur: “the accelerator must go down, and it must go down hard”
December 20th, 2010 at 5:27 am
Weasel, I agree on both the Campbell and Cable points. Both have shown me enough this season to give them another year.
Campbell had one bad pass in the rain yesterday that was picked. Every quarterback throws errant passes. It just happens.
The first INT, though, was a fkn feat of athleticism from a DL that you just never see. He went up the ladder and just stuck it. You had to be impressed even though it was a bad play for us.
December 20th, 2010 at 5:46 am
Why in the world would any1 want to change to orton,palmer or even mcnabb at this point is beyond comprehension, there is 1 thing that jc is doing that those other qb’s are not doing at this time,jc is using his feet when wr’s are not open, the other 3 are not doing that,(mcnabb doesnt do it anymore) they need to draft a young qb that can be groomed (think newton would last to the 2nd-round?)
And having Rolando back at mlb made a big difference in our defense,even if the broncos are not big in the running game, he brings cohesion to the defense.
December 20th, 2010 at 5:57 am
Re: QB position for 2011
Imo…
Keep one of Frye, Gradkowski, Boller, O’Sullivan.
Probably Boller.
Draft a QB to develop, like Mallett.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:01 am
In the last two games that McClain has played, we have held the opposing teams RB’s to 49 yards on 41 carries.
Pretty damn impressive.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:03 am
I would hate to see what Campbell would look like when we aren’t rushing for 200 yards a game.
Oh wait, that was the 49ers, Titans and Steelers game.
Upgrading him is not easy, because he is an average QB, and above-average QB’s aren’t all that available, but I don’t want to waste to many of Darren’s years in his prime by someone who gets outplayed by a rookie starting his first ever game.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:05 am
Matt S led the team with 8 tackles, had 1.5 sacks, 1 TFL and 2 QB hits.
Why was this guy not starting at the beginning of the year?
December 20th, 2010 at 6:13 am
I was talking up Matt S. all year long. The coaches had Trevor Scott starting instead. Scott should have been relieving Matt. When Matt was a reserve and everytime he came into the game, good things happen on the field.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:16 am
Same reason why DHB is a perennial starter, is why Scott was.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Btw, what i meant in post #271 was that our QB depth chart would be Campbell-Boller-Mallett (eg).
Mallett develops, see how Campbell fairs in 2011 as definite starter. By 2012 that developing QB may be ready to start.
Whether we signed Palmer or kept Campbell, we’re gonna have to draft a QB to develop who’ll replace either in a season or two.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:21 am
You are a spinmeister, JFB. It’s pretty ludicrous to say that Campbell was outplayed by Tebow. The stats don’t bear it, and the end result sure as hell doesn’t bear it.
To add:
The difference in the passing game was Brandon Lloyd (and his ineffective counterpart Stanford Routt). The difference in the QB running game was one 40 yard TD run where Mike Mitchell was held by Daniel Graham.
You’re letting the media make you believe that Tebow’s debut was “electrifying”. He did not outplay Campbell. He just looked like Denver’s own version of Gradkowski.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:22 am
Raider Nation we need to stop trying to run Jason Campbell out of town. If you leave the same coaching staff with Jason he would do well. You want to bring in Carson Palmer? Carson Palmer has been in the same system for years and he still looks like garbage. Jason Campbell went 12-0 his senior year at Auburn and was drafted by a garbage Redskins team which was changing coaches like changing underwear. I am telling you if the Raiders keep this coaching staff with Campbell they would do really well.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:23 am
I like JC, I think that it took some time for him to get a handle on this offense, and for Hugh to play to his strengths and we are seeing the result of that now. I think next year he would be quite good for us. Im not opposed to bringing in another Q like McNabb or Palmer, but for you guys wanting Kyle “Neckbeard the Pirate” Orton in here, you are crazy. Any quarterback looks good when things are going good, throw in some adversity (and there is alot of adversity here, see: Oline) And he looks like crap. Denver has done nothing since last years 6-0 start. Sure Kyle may have had some good early stats, but look at his teams W/L record. He sucks.
Ill Take my chances with JC….
December 20th, 2010 at 6:23 am
Sandwiched between the SD and Den game when the RB’s averaged 1.1 ypc, was the Jacksonville game when 2 RB’s went over 100 yards.
McClain is turning into a difference-maker.
Look forward to the chess-match he will have to play against Peyton.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Texas:
Tebow had 2 TD’s, no turnovers, 100+ QB rating.
Campbell had 1 TD, 2 turnovers and a 62 QB rating.
And for the record, I would rather have Campbell over Palmer, McNabb, Orton, Kolb and Gradkowski. The only real option I see for an upgrade in 2011 would be the Harvard guy from Buffalo.
But with the league’s #2 rushing attack, he is the 22nd rated QB, which is below average. I will give him a bump up and say he is average, but that’s it.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:28 am
Jason Campbell went 12-0 his senior year at Auburn and was drafted by a garbage Redskins team
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Reggie,
Campbell’s rookie year when he sat, the Skins made the playoffs with Mark Brunell.
They also made the playoffs in 2007 after JC got hurt.
The Skins made the playoff twice in Campbell’s first 3 years, both when he sat.
They were not garbage by any means.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:30 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 6:05 am
Matt S led the team with 8 tackles, had 1.5 sacks, 1 TFL and 2 QB hits.
Why was this guy not starting at the beginning of the year?
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Scott is on the Davis scholarship. Or was; who knows now with the injury and Shaughnessy’s performances.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Charles Robinson of Yahoo sports had a perceptive comment on the Raiders this morning:
“I don’t buy that the quarterback situation is sorted out, and I think there’s another round of Jason Campbell(notes) disappointment on tap for 2011. But with seven wins, and finding two legitimate stars in Darren McFadden(notes) and Jacoby Ford(notes), this season has to be considered a success. Sunday’s 502 yards of offense, including 264 rushing yards, were as good as it can get for this team with Campbell at the helm. And while everyone will talk about Tim Tebow’s first career start, the reality is Denver produced eight first downs and was manhandled from start to finish.”
December 20th, 2010 at 6:34 am
Our O-line opens up holes for our RB’s to get 240 yards and over 6 ypc, we don’t give up any sacks, and have only two penalties (both on Veldheer) and people still take shots at the O-line.
Unbelievable. People will be bagging on the O-line all offseason, while McFadden is going to be buying them all rolexes for getting him to the Pro Bowl.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:38 am
QB position is tough. Going out and getting McNabb, Palmer, Orton or any of the names thrown out would be a lateral move and just making change for the sake of it. On the other hand, I don’t think JC is the guy to lead the team for the next 5 or 6 years.
Don’t really know what to do about the QB position. Ride Campbell next year, if only because I don’t see any better options out there and hope his second year in a system does make the difference people are saying it will.
Best case scenario we find an unlikely gem in the 4th round this year…sort of a Jacoby Ford of the QB position!
December 20th, 2010 at 6:39 am
JFB,
I think the O-line takes some unfair heat, but the RG position needs upgraded tremendously. Carlisle is wearing down before our eyes.
If Walker is out for next week, or even the season, with that concussion, I’ll be curious to see how Mario Henderson handles that side.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:41 am
If the Raiders can come out of this draft with a RG or RT, a possession receiver (basically Schilens but who can actually stay healthy) and another decent CB, I’ll call it a success.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Certainly the O-line could also use some upgrading.
I would say probably 90% of the league replaces at least one O-lineman every offseason, so no big deal to replace Carlisle.
And their downside is pass protection, however they are a top-tier run blocking unit, so that certainly offsets it a little.
Rushing for 200+ yards when every team knows we want to rush the ball?? Pretty amazing if you ask me, and we do it consistantly.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:45 am
The Carolina Panthers of the early John Fox years were built a lot like this team.
Played tough, physical defense, ran the ball, had an efficent game manager QB in Delhomme. Jacoby Ford = Steve Smith. We need a Mushin Muhammed to compliment that.
And hey, they went to the Super Bowl and damn near won.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:48 am
JFB, the passer rating is a flawed calculation. Every respectable analyst will tell you that. You can throw one pass in a game and have a 119 rating.
It’s ridiculous that 8 for 16 for 138 yards can even possibly be over 100. That’s not good productivity. Passer rating is only useful over a much larger body of work, and there aren’t many QBs out there with career 100+ ratings.
Two of Tebow’s passes should have been intercepted, or at least defended. Routt was absolutely awful. It speaks more to our shoddy pass defense than it does to Tebow outplaying anyone.
Earlier I conceded the second INT by Jason was bad. It was wet, but no excuses: it was a bad pass. The first INT, though, was a ridiculously athletic play by a defensive linemen.
Bottom line is that Jason played better than Tebow when it counted most. “Played better” is synonymous with outplaying.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:50 am
GG Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 5:24 am
I imagine Al day to day uses all his catch-phrases constantly
Eg…
At a restaurant, to the waiter: “just ketchup, baby”
At home, to his nursing aid: “i just ask for commitment to excrement”
On the road, to his chauffeur: “the accelerator must go down, and it must go down hard”
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LMFAO!
December 20th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Tebow’s TD run was pretty amazing, no lie. He can’t build an NFL career on that though.
Honestly, the guy could be a dominant running back.
Nnamdi or CJ37 intercept or at least defend that pass to Lloyd, who then had to make a ridiculously good catch besides.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Yahoo sports is where writers go when the other networks won’t hire them. It’s a sh!t web site only good for looking up scores and stats, or finding links to stories from other media sites. Yahoo writers are better at rumormongering than giving useful analysis.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:51 am
The Chiefs play the early game next week, so we will know if we are elimanated from the playoffs shortly after kickoff if not before hand.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:52 am
RaidingTexas Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 6:50 am
Yahoo sports is where writers go when the other networks won’t hire them. It’s a sh!t web site only good for looking up scores and stats, or finding links to stories from other media sites. Yahoo writers are better at rumormongering than giving useful analysis.
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To some degree you’re right, but Charles Robinson is maybe the most underrated NFL writer out there. Dude knows his stuff.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:54 am
Texas,
You can brush off QB rating, but I will not.
I will admit I rely heavily on stats, maybe too much at times.
Can’t help it. Was a finance major in college with a statistics minor and I work in finance. Numbers and stats are my life!!!
Besides, stats are the only facts we have on here. Everything is opinion.
But 2 TD’s and zero turnovers in your first start on the road against the NFL’s fiercest pass rush (we lead the NFL in sacks; another stat lol) is pretty good if you ask me.
If Orton plays, we win by 30, easy.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:56 am
we don’t give up any sacks, and have only two penalties (both on Veldheer) and people still take shots at the O-line.
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“any” sacks?????
We don’t give up MANY sacks because the QB you take pot shots at is pretty good moving around the pocket and scrambling.
Everyone KNOWS the pass protection is suspect on the right side of the line and at C. Most bad things happen in our passing game when that right side of the line breaks down. Be it the QB getting knocked out of the game, penalties, or basic QB hits.
And the WAY the guys get beat is flat out embarrasing. Bullied, skated, whiffs, and blown assignments. EVERY GAME!
Terrible!
December 20th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Sucks that the Chiefs play before us, IMO.
Will be kind of a buzz-kill if we know we are out of the playoffs before kickoff.
December 20th, 2010 at 6:59 am
J,
Now the way Zack Miller gets bullied and whiffs is embaressing.
The way our O-line goes and leads the way for 250 yard rushing games is embaressing for the other team.
We aren’t going to rush for 10 yards every carry mayne. Over the course of the game, our O-line dominates it’s opponent, almost weekly.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:00 am
The Raiders are 9th in the league in offense, and 20th in defense. 18th in special teams.
Looks like the biggest upgrades need to be Marshall and Fassel,(defensive and special teams coordinators).
Then we can address players…
Cornerback and NT on defense..
C,RG,WR on offense…
December 20th, 2010 at 7:01 am
So many mixed signals in regard to Campbell … He was awful in the first half — but quite adept in the second half … I’m still not convinced he can win those 3-4 games per year a QB is asked to win (no matter how strong his team’s running game) … No way to Kyle Orton-ary … McNabb is getting old … Maybe Palmer, given Raiders running game because I think he is a better pure QB than Campbell, who always seems like he has to rediscover his confidence every week … I like confident QBs (Stabler, Plunkett, Gannon, Lamonica)
December 20th, 2010 at 7:02 am
The Raiders are 9th in the league in offense, and 20th in defense. 18th in special teams.
Looks like the biggest upgrades need to be Marshall and Fassel,(defensive and special teams coordinators).
Then we can address players…
Cornerback and NT on defense..
C,RG,WR on offense…
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You can add a legit ball hawking safety on defense as well. Unless one of our young guys can develop…Stevie Brown???
December 20th, 2010 at 7:06 am
Gotta run for a few hours……
December 20th, 2010 at 7:06 am
JFB,
You trust stats more than your EYES????!!!???
Tebow was what we thought he was, a 3rd string QB.
You KNOW that TD pass would be deflected at a minimum 9 outta 10 times. What is the probability he repeats that stat guy?
40 yds scramble on 3rd and 24? Probabilty of him repeating that?
December 20th, 2010 at 7:07 am
Raider Nation please don’t drink the Koolaid from any of the Yahoo Sports or ESPN. I have been a Raiders fan since 1970 which is probably longer than most of the bloggers been alive. The hatred for the Raiders runs deeper than most of you can ever imagine. Al Davis did not let the media have access to the team when they wanted and they are still pissed about it. That’s just one thing. I can go on and on but it would take me a few hours.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Jhill .. correct … denver can have tebow … not my idea of an nfl QB … hope the jackasses fall in love with him
December 20th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Ha ha, JFB. Funny thing is I have a B.S. in Finance, and I have an M.S. in Accounting. I love stats too.
I guess the difference is that I know which numbers are less useful. You’re the guy that looks at earnings. I’m the guy that looks at free cash flow. LOL
December 20th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Bring Campbell, Gardowski, and Frye back. Forget the other QBs, they are not an upgrade. Can’t see endorsing the turnover machine Carson Palmer. Would rather draft a rookie.
More important than the 3-4 game our QB might need to win for us is the 3-4 games our defense and STs tend to give away. I think we have a better chance of shoring up those 2 units than we do upgrading our QBs.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:18 am
RaiderReggie … Fan since 1963-64 … just a boy then but my dad loved ‘em … But i don’t believe the media has a hate-affair with Raiders … Back in the day, The Green would cover the Raiders with more reporters than they sent to 49ers games … Al hates anybody who says anything negative about his team … BSPN & Yahoo sports both suck, I agree … But it’s not because they hate the Raiders, it’s because they have become what all media is becoming — Rating based … In today’s journalism facts basically get in the way of a good story … Nobody is accountable … Will it sell papers or ads — that’s all that matters … I actually believe the media would love for the Raiders to become pertinent again … there’s huge Raider nation out there just waiting to be tapped into by advertisers … It’s all about $$$$$$$$$
December 20th, 2010 at 7:19 am
where is Norco I waited for him all Day!
yesterday A lot with a sign!
December 20th, 2010 at 7:21 am
#1 focus in the offseason. Figure out the issue and stop the big play. We have arguably the fastest defense in the league but we consistantly get burned. 40 yard dash by a qb on 3rd and 23… ridiculous.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:22 am
McFadden robbed by the coaching staff of another two TDs. He gets us there and Bush gets the glory.
Disgusting.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:23 am
Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 7:22 am
McFadden robbed by the coaching staff of another two TDs. He gets us there and Bush gets the glory.
Disgusting.
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Especially so for those of us who kept the faith before the season and drafted DMac for our fantasy teams!
December 20th, 2010 at 7:23 am
300.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Sucks that the Chiefs play before us, IMO.
Will be kind of a buzz-kill if we know we are out of the playoffs before kickoff.
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SD plays Cinci and Denver, two easy wins….therefore we are already out of the playoffs.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Tyler Brayton with a cheap shot on a player FROM THE SIDELINES!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Another-sideline-tripping-incident-earns-?urn=nfl-297986
December 20th, 2010 at 7:26 am
SD plays Cinci and Denver, two easy wins….therefore we are already out of the playoffs.
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Truth. I would still not allow the players to see the scores of the KC and SD games before we play Indy.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Dakota — unlikely SD can lose to either, but not impossible … both on the road — and i’ve seen many upsets in final 2 weeks when a team with nothing to play for beats a team with everything to play for … Regardless, the Raiders’ situation is hard to swallow … we left at least 3 wins on the table — that’s the bottom line
December 20th, 2010 at 7:29 am
Heres the conundrum for week 17. We win, we put SD in the playoffs. We lose we put KC in the playoffs….
December 20th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 7:22 am
McFadden robbed by the coaching staff of another two TDs. He gets us there and Bush gets the glory.
Disgusting.
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Smart coaches (read: Cable) do not want to risk a fumble on the goal line. DMAC has improved in that area, but still has issues when he goes airborn.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:33 am
dakota, that’s fantasy football talking — not a disgusting call by the coaches .. i’m with Bo on this one — want most sure-handed RBs to carry at end zone .. the reason i don’t play fantasy: it ruins good games
December 20th, 2010 at 7:33 am
McFadden has 2 fumbles on the year, and one was because of a stupid play call (the “pitch” to Ford yesterday)… Thats awfully impressive for someone who has “fumbling issues”
December 20th, 2010 at 7:34 am
bcz24 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 7:33 am
McFadden has 2 fumbles on the year, and one was because of a stupid play call (the “pitch” to Ford yesterday)… Thats awfully impressive for someone who has “fumbling issues”
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Thats two “lost” fumbles, right?
December 20th, 2010 at 7:35 am
“Ghost…”: I agree on Orton. He’s shown nothing to impress me. An okay system QB at best. No upgrade there. McNabb just might be finished. Lots of wear and tear on his body. Palmer is the only one of the three that I’d even consider but we’d have to get better at pass blocking to offset his lack of mobility.
Noticed that Khalif Barnes committed his usual pre-snap penalty yet again yesterday. Is he thick as a brick? Every game he does it at least once. You could see Gallery giving him a mouthful after that one.
Stuff the run and get in Manning’s face and we have a good shot against Indy. Collie going down again helps us although I do feel badly for the kid. Freeney was limping at the end of that game as well. Him not being 100% can only help our O.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:37 am
GhosttothePost: I can agree with your comments, but I see a lot of Raider fans that are so far off base on some of their comments.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:37 am
This could have been a dream season.
If we go on to beat KC we will have defeated every AFC West opponent.
We also defeated our former AFC West opponent Seattle.
The only bump in the road was the loss to SF. If we would have defeated them too Al would have had a stroke.
Instead, at the end of the year Al will call Tom Cable and Hue Jackson into his office and:
Al: Hue, I would like to compliment you on turning this offense around. You finally found ways to use my number one weapon, McFadden, and you make lemonade out of lemons at the QB position.
Hue: Thank you so much Mr. Davis, that means a lot to me!
Al: Cable, you took us from a 3rd place team to a 3rd place team. You are fired.
Cable: Huh? I did everything you asked of me!
Al: Except make the playoffs. Hue, how would you like to be the new Timeout Coordinator/Offensive Coordinator next year?
December 20th, 2010 at 7:39 am
The fumble on the reverse was the result of one or both of two things: The Donkeys had the right blitz called at the right time and/or someone missed a block on the blitzing LB.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:39 am
I thought Hue was going to coach Notre Dame in 2011?
December 20th, 2010 at 7:41 am
That is fine, keep giving Bush all the short yardage TDs…and McFadden will move on and play for a team that will use him correctly. Just another case of the Raiders hurting themselves.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:44 am
Adrian Peterson fumbles a lot….yet the Viqueens let him get his TDs. Can you imagine if the Viqueens pulled him from the game in red zone opportunities? Not that they have had many this year, but still….
Bush is big, but he isn’t a bruising back like Crockett. There is no reason for him to be getting McFadden’s glory. None.
On the drives where Bush takes us into the red zone, sure, let him carry it in….but on the drives where McFadden took us there, let him get the TD and do the leap. Only fair.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Marshall is the best DC we have had since Shaw.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:45 am
Reggie: Raiders fans are excessively passionate — and really, truth be told, taught other NFL fans in other cities the definition of passion for your team … that’s why Raiders fans say some stupid things … I don’t hold it against them, just realize they sometimes talk with their hearts instead of their heads
December 20th, 2010 at 7:46 am
Bush is big, but he isn’t a bruising back like Crockett. There is no reason for him to be getting McFadden’s glory. None.
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I already explaind this. Are you a DMAC fan or a Raider fan? Screw the “glory”. Touchdowns for the team are the only issue.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 7:44 am
Adrian Peterson fumbles a lot….yet the Viqueens let him get his TDs.
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So you want to emulate Minny now? Should we sign Joe Namath to play one more season?
December 20th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Dakota … my advice: kill the fantasy league … Played one year. The raiders sucked and found myself rooting for a denver RB playing against them … it was a life-changing moment — never even remotely considered fantasy again … my idea of a good fantasy has nothing to do with football anyway
December 20th, 2010 at 7:49 am
334.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 7:46 am
Bush is big, but he isn’t a bruising back like Crockett. There is no reason for him to be getting McFadden’s glory. None.
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I already explaind this. Are you a DMAC fan or a Raider fan? Screw the “glory”. Touchdowns for the team are the only issue.
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Not when there are certain McFadden hating douche bags…won’t name names, but you know who you are…who will point to the fact that McFadden didn’t score many TDs for all the yards he had in 2010 in some future idiotic argument against McFadden.
lol
December 20th, 2010 at 7:52 am
anybody stupid enough to hate on mcfadden after the season he’s had doesn’t even deserve a screen-name … so it’s all good
December 20th, 2010 at 7:54 am
336.ghosttothepost Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 7:49 am
Dakota … my advice: kill the fantasy league … Played one year. The raiders sucked and found myself rooting for a denver RB playing against them … it was a life-changing moment — never even remotely considered fantasy again … my idea of a good fantasy has nothing to do with football anyway
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??????what are you talking about? I don’t even have McFadden in the FFL, Dell does. He took him one spot before I did. This is about respecting a great player and letting him get his. Cable let Fargas bounce off defenders how many times in the red zone, but now we can’t let McFadden get a chance? Why? Because Bush is some great short yardage runner? Not. McFadden would have scored on all of those Bush runs if not on more. For the good of the team we need to get McFadden in on the red zone plays.
I am sure they are probably just trying to keep Bush happy with some gimme TDs so he doesn’t leave next year, but it is more important to keep McFadden happy than Bush. For the good of the team baby!
December 20th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Its impressive the way the wrs are blocking downfield. I think with a better qb they would be a good group
December 20th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Like it or not Dakota, Mcfadden EARNED his rep as a fumbler all by himself. Not the Oline, or coaches, or Al, or JaWalrus… it was all DMAC who dropped those balls the last two years.
Yes, now he has shown improvement but why would you care who scores our touchdowns?
Your whine is analogous to saying: “Why does Kareem get to score all those sky hooks when it was Magic who brought the ball upcourt?”
I bet you would become a Bronco fan if we traded DMAC to Dungver.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:57 am
341.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 7:54 am
Like it or not Dakota, Mcfadden EARNED his rep as a fumbler all by himself. Not the Oline, or coaches, or Al, or JaWalrus… it was all DMAC who dropped those balls the last two years.
Yes, now he has shown improvement but why would you care who scores our touchdowns?
Your whine is analogous to saying: “Why does Kareem get to score all those sky hooks when it was Magic who brought the ball upcourt?”
I bet you would become a Bronco fan if we traded DMAC to Dungver.
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I was pissed when Kareem missed and screwed up Magic’s assist totals too!
But it doesn’t mean I would have become a Knicks fan had Magic followed through with his threat to leave the Lakers for the Knicks way back in 1990.
December 20th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Why can’t cincy beat the std’s? I beleive they won yesterday. Why can’t the last game put us in the playoffs? F the queefs!! Root for your team damit. For F’s sake Al for president!!!
December 20th, 2010 at 8:03 am
If Magic brings an NFL team to LA I will root for them to lose to the Raiders in the Super Bowl every year. He just better not name them the Spartans…
December 20th, 2010 at 8:05 am
344.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 8:03 am
If Magic brings an NFL team to LA I will root for them to lose to the Raiders in the Super Bowl every year. He just better not name them the Spartans…
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He will name them the LA Protease Inhibitors.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Apologies dakota, but you sounded like fantasy nerd worrying about who scores TDs … it just doesn’t matter … only matters that team scores TDs (reference the last few years when we were TD challenged) … I could careless if that guy in the gorilla suit from the black hole gets the TD … just score, baby
December 20th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Trade Jon Condo for that guy in the gorilla suit!
December 20th, 2010 at 8:20 am
Actually, I was a little disappointed that we allowed Teblow to do some things against us. Marshall should be fired just for yesterday’s performance.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:27 am
[...] Asomugha’s status for Week 16 against the Colts is very much up in the air, according to the Contra Costa Times. Our View: His absence would obviously be very bad news for a team tasked with slowing down Peyton [...]
December 20th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Two big plays that were a fluke and fire Marshall?You should be fired for dumb opinions!!!
December 20th, 2010 at 8:30 am
350.raiderfankirk Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 8:28 am
Two big plays that were a fluke and fire Marshall?You should be fired for dumb opinions!!!
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Marshall is garbage, just like Cable. What are we ranked against the run…26th or so? We are going nowhere fast with those two guys.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:33 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Although there is slim hope of making the playoffs…I will say this: Raiders are 5-2 at home, 5-0 in the division, 7-7 overall now and this young team has learned to win! Inconsistent, yes, but learning to gel and become better! A few pieces here and there and the Raiders will be back!
December 20th, 2010 at 8:35 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Trade Jon Condo for that guy in the gorilla suit!
Funny…Gorilla Rilla probably won’t be able to snap a ball anywhere with his suit on…as a person, maybe…
December 20th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Numbers against the run are a product of big plays and the D being on the field too much. Example game one CJ one big run.Take that away and he is under 3yrds per carry. Defense is much improved against the run due to marshall and Cables personnel decisions. Why the hell would you want to ruin a good thing and start over?
December 20th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Dakota,
Yep, we’re ranked 26th against the run….1 place behind Rob Ryan’s Cleveland defense!
December 20th, 2010 at 8:37 am
If Asomugha can’t go on Sunday, we’re pretty much boned.
Also worrisome is the fact that the Colts pretty much shut down MJD and Rashad Jennings yesterday. Is their run D waking up?
December 20th, 2010 at 8:37 am
Dakota you got anything positive to say about the team? Are you a Teblow fan?
December 20th, 2010 at 8:38 am
Example game one CJ one big run.Take that away and he is under 3yrds per carry.
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And as I always say, if my aunt had nuts she’d be my uncle.
Those big runs count too! You CAN’T take them away.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:41 am
Nmamdi did make a very nice 3rd down tackle of Tebow, when the game was still up in the air. Nice to see Groves make a play.
McFadden is something special.
THe AFC West will be fun for the next few years
December 20th, 2010 at 8:43 am
lol … If your aunt had nuts, she might also be a squirrel
December 20th, 2010 at 8:43 am
No you can’t take them away but it does give you a picture of reallity. The Chargers were #1 and how did that go?
December 20th, 2010 at 8:46 am
354.raiderfankirk Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 8:35 am
Numbers against the run are a product of big plays and the D being on the field too much. Example game one CJ one big run.Take that away and he is under 3yrds per carry. Defense is much improved against the run due to marshall and Cables personnel decisions. Why the hell would you want to ruin a good thing and start over?
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Oh yeah, huge improvement against the run…from what 30th to 26th? Wow, I am blown away! You mean all those great running backs from the Chargers and Broncos didn’t kill us this year? Oh wait, they don’t have any RBs! I forgot! No wonder we even improved that much!
Oh and Cable took us from a 3rd place team to a 3rd place team? Wow! Any improvement on this team is due to Hue Jackson and the improved offense, (and playing the AFC West and NFC West helped too), not Tom Cable.
But hey, you want to roll with guys like Cable and Marshall, that is fine, just understand that together, 7-9 or 8-8 is about the best they will ever give you.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:47 am
The scary thing about the Colts is that they always seem to wake up at the right time! That is a sign of a good tem under Peyton Manning…however, they are beatable and it looks likely that the rain will be here again this weekend! Both kickers yesterday slipped and fell in the mud…Jano’s first time punting had me worried…good thing for that muff!
December 20th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Dakota…I feel ya on that the team went from 3rd place to 3rd place…win any one of those 4 wtf? games and it would have been 2nd, maybe 1st right now, but if the team does win out to get to 9-7, I’d say I will be happy with the progress that this team has made! Not ecstatic, but happy!
December 20th, 2010 at 8:51 am
I love Hues calls lately, but you did’nt give him any credit for the terrible games he called agaist Tenn. Arizona, Huston, and 49ers. How many 3 in outs in those games? And alot to do with Defensive run stats that don’t meen s@#$!!!The run D is 10 times better than past years.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:57 am
I hope it rains again in Oakland this weekend. Anything to limit Manning, even the smallest bit, will be critical.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:58 am
364.hwnrdr Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Dakota…I feel ya on that the team went from 3rd place to 3rd place…win any one of those 4 wtf? games and it would have been 2nd, maybe 1st right now, but if the team does win out to get to 9-7, I’d say I will be happy with the progress that this team has made! Not ecstatic, but happy!
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Hey, if we go 9-7, I will personally write a letter to Al Davis asking that Tom Cable remain our HC.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Cant get over what eagle 7 did yesterday to a top defense. There is no other qb in the nfl that could have single handedly beat that defense coming back from 31-10!
Manning, Brady Brees, and rivers are really good players, but they cant do what Vick does, best qb in the leauge right now
December 20th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Mario Henderson in for Langston Walker scares me…can Veldheer hold up against Freeney? Can JC have one solid game and not by halves? Can DMAC and Bush have a field day? All this against Indy…I say we can! Cable should yell at them in the locker room coming out to start the game!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:02 am
Haha…did you see Coughlin chew that punter’s arse out after the game? He was instructed to kick out of bounds and get to OT…wow…but DeSean Jackson should not have showboated the way that he did at the end…
December 20th, 2010 at 9:03 am
Hwnrdr lol …right on.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Vick was relentless, he ws being pounded by that defense over play after play, yet his face never changed. that is is second signature moment from 2010. he wont win the mvp, but he is clearly the ultimate weapon. Eagle 7 is the wave of the future, on deck Cam Newton.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:07 am
Ken and his wife Edna went to the state fair every year,
And every year Ken would say,
‘Edna, I’d like to ride in that helicopter’
Edna always replied,
‘I know Ken, but that helicopter ride is fifty bucks,
And fifty bucks is fifty bucks’
One year Ken and Edna went to the fair,
and Ken said,
‘Edna, I’m 75 years old.
If I don’t ride that helicopter, I might never get another chance’
To this, Edna replied,
“Ken that helicopter ride is fifty bucks, and fifty bucks is fifty bucks’
The pilot overheard the couple and said,
‘Folks I’ll make you a deal. I’ll take the both of you for a ride. If you can stay quiet for the entire ride and don’t say a word I won’t charge you a penny!
But if you say one word it’s fifty dollars.’
Ken and Edna agreed and up they went.
The pilot did all kinds of fancy maneuvers, but not a word was heard.
He did his daredevil tricks over and over again,
But still not a word…
When they landed, the pilot turned to Ken and said,
‘By golly, I did everything I could to get you to yell out, but you didn’t.
I’m impressed!’
Ken replied,
‘Well, to tell you the truth,
I almost said something when Edna fell out,
But you know,
“Fifty bucks is fifty bucks!’
December 20th, 2010 at 9:09 am
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Manning, Brady Brees, and rivers are really good players, but they cant do what Vick does, best qb in the leauge right now.
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I said that about 3 weeks ago and everybody on this blog scoffed. It was at the same time that idiot with the moniker blackpeoplerdumb was posting on here and everybody was berating black QB’s. I said that Michael Vick was the best QB in the league.
Show me somebody who has played more consistently than Vick besides maybe Brady. Also factor in that Vick has not even been a starter the entire season and missed a couple of games due to injury.
When you look at all of that what Vick has done this season is nothing short of amazing.
Would love to see him in Silver and Black next year…
December 20th, 2010 at 9:10 am
That’s messed up Rockstar! LOL
December 20th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Dakota,
your boy had another fine day (except for handing the ball to the defender), but here’s a little bit of Raider tradition – Pete Banaszak in 1975 scored 16 TDs, most every one of them from inside the 2 yard line. Why? Same as Bush, he’d get in the endzone.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:14 am
No way does Al admit defeat on Campbell and go after McNabb, who’s clearly washed up. He may quietly make inquiries about Palmer though. Priorities for this team need to be veteran WR, center, and more muscle in the middle of the defense. This team can go deep in the playoffs with its running game and a consistently stout defense. Campbell just needs to not blow it.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Can any one tell me why tim tebow gets a shot to play qb in the nfl, even gets a chance to start in the nfl, but guys like brad smith are forced to play wide receiver, and tommie frazier didnt even get drafted??!?!?!?
December 20th, 2010 at 9:16 am
iorana hwnrdr,
Raider domination was evident yesterday, so much so that even when they were handing freebies to the Donks it always seemed like Oaktown was gonna win anyway. That is a vast departure from the last years when any mishap would cause the team to curl up and die.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:17 am
A woman from Los Angeles, CA who was a tree hugger, a Democrat, and an anti-hunter, purchased a piece of timberland near Colville, WA . There was a large tree on one of the highest points in the tract. She wanted a good view of the natural splendor of her land so she started to climb the big tree As she neared the top she encountered a spotted owl that attacked her. In her haste to escape, the woman slid down the tree to the ground and got many splinters in her crotch.
In considerable pain, she hurried to Mt. Carmel ER to see a doctor. She told him she was an environmentalist, a democrat, and an anti-hunter and how she came to get all the splinters. The doctor listened to her story with great patience and then told her to go wait in the examining room and he would see if he could help her.
She sat and waited three hours before the doctor reappeared. The angry woman demanded, “What took you so long?” He smiled and then told her, “Well, I had to get permits from the Environmental Protection Agency, the Forest Service, and the Bureau of Land Management before I could remove old-growth timber from a recreational area. I’m sorry, but due to Ob@ma Care, they turned me down.”
December 20th, 2010 at 9:18 am
378.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Can any one tell me why tim tebow gets a shot to play qb in the nfl, even gets a chance to start in the nfl, but guys like brad smith are forced to play wide receiver, and tommie frazier didnt even get drafted??!?!?!?
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Because McDaniels was a moron and wasted three draft picks to get Teblow in the 1st round and now Denver has to see if he can play.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Romac haters are awfully quiet this am. That tackle he made in the backfield on morena is exactly the type of play we need from our young mlb. he is getting better every game out.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Traitor Republicans and the corrupt GOP say they hate Communism and Socialism but then have this country go to bed with China??
haha…the GOP and Republican party are lying TRAITOR scum!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:25 am
# M Lonetree Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:16 am
iorana hwnrdr,
Raider domination was evident yesterday, so much so that even when they were handing freebies to the Donks it always seemed like Oaktown was gonna win anyway. That is a vast departure from the last years when any mishap would cause the team to curl up and die.
That is what I give this team…they have NEVER given up this year!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:26 am
# Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:18 am
378.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Can any one tell me why tim tebow gets a shot to play qb in the nfl, even gets a chance to start in the nfl, but guys like brad smith are forced to play wide receiver, and tommie frazier didnt even get drafted??!?!?!?
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Because McDaniels was a moron and wasted three draft picks to get Teblow in the 1st round and now Denver has to see if he can play.
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The fact that tebow was drafted to play qb at all is ridiculous. if the donkeys didnt draft him that high he still would have gotten a sniff in the later rounds. meanwhile guys that were legit qbs get switched to new positions, and tebow types that were far better than tebow end up in canada. It is an outrage
December 20th, 2010 at 9:26 am
It amazes the amount of morons that roam in here sometimes……sheesh….
December 20th, 2010 at 9:27 am
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Romac haters are awfully quiet this am. That tackle he made in the backfield on morena is exactly the type of play we need from our young mlb. he is getting better every game out.
One of the guys that sits next to me at the game told me that he didn’t realize how good McClain was until the Jacksonville game when he wasn’t there..
December 20th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Tim Tebow had 2 TD’s and no turnovers.
the Donks were tied with us at halftime and only down 3 heading into the 4th quarter!
he’s already better than JaMarcus Russell, Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye, Kyle Boller & J.T. O’Sullivan …
THE END
December 20th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Hilarious! gus Johnson drops a RAAAIIIDEEEERRRRS like we do at the coliseum, on fords td.
Ford is the truth!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Hwnrdr,
the tough one might come Sunday. If the Titans can’t get it done for the Raiders in KC then the Oaktowners knowing their fate is sealed having to face Peyton in a must-win for Indy…
December 20th, 2010 at 9:30 am
Here’s the good thing Rockstar…his only real asset is the run! His throws did look erratic a lot yesterday! He will probably get better, but even in college, I never looked at him as being an NFL caliber yet…but have to agree on JaMarcus, etc…lol
December 20th, 2010 at 9:31 am
I agree M…I hope the Titans helps us to play spoiler, and Cinci…its possible! Long shot, but possible!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Denver scored 14 points against us IN DENVER with Kyle Orton in Week 7.
Denver scored 14 points against us IN OAKLAND with Tim Tebow in the first quarter alone yesterday …
Jon Gruden was right. Tebow has a future playing QB in this league. Too bad the Donks drafted him!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Teblows’ TD throw was lucky, lucky that our DBs had their heads up their asses. That should have been an easy INT.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:34 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Tim Tebow had 2 TD’s and no turnovers.
the Donks were tied with us at halftime and only down 3 heading into the 4th quarter!
he’s already better than JaMarcus Russell, Bruce Gradkowski, Charlie Frye, Kyle Boller & J.T. O’Sullivan …
THE END
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I dont think he will be any good, I could be wrong. However if he gets a shot there is no way b.smith should be returning kicks in new york. smith is twice the athlete and was legit passer.
Hopefully if he does succeed maybe it will open doors for guys that wouldnt have gotten a shot in years past.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:34 am
Teblow looks like a heck of a FB to me.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:34 am
if the Raiders, Bengals & Titans all win in Week 16 there will probably be a riot in Oakland …
PRINT THAT
December 20th, 2010 at 9:35 am
Another asset of Tebow that I will give him is that he is smart and has a good work ethic which, will get him to where he wants to be! When he gets to Vick status, he will be dangerous! Yesterday he was running the option quite a bit…
December 20th, 2010 at 9:36 am
# Dakota Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:33 am
Teblows’ TD throw was lucky, lucky that our DBs had their heads up their asses. That should have been an easy INT.
And lucky that the refs had their heads up you know what because he was also out of bounds…
December 20th, 2010 at 9:37 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:34 am
if the Raiders, Bengals & Titans all win in Week 16 there will probably be a riot in Oakland …
PRINT THAT
Not only in OakTown…I think that the whole Bay Area will be rioting! Sorry, I mean East Bay!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:40 am
Rockstar,
Orton lost his start in a game where all breaks went Raider’s way.
TBone lost his start in a game where all breaks went Donkey’s way.
Don’t see any Donk QB greatness from either contest. Pedestrian QBing on a bad team.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Jason Campbell with the exception of Tennessee, half of St Louis & half of Pittsburgh has been killing it this year. The guy is a winner
no way he should have been benched for a guy like Bruce Gradkowski EVER this season. Grads lost 3 games that JCamp could have been the difference in!
Another year in the Hue Jax offense and some upgrades at OL & WR will have this guy in the playoffs & Pro Bowl next year.
hilarious that 95 percent of you bought those b.s. Washington stats JFB posted a gazillion times from April to August. Oakland looks like crap without Jason and Washington looked pretty tough with Rex Grossman yesterday in for Donovan Overrated McNabb
December 20th, 2010 at 9:44 am
Tebow should never be mentioned in the same breath as the great eagle 7. Vick is as good a passer as there is on the planet. tebow will never be a good passer. tebow’s delivery is slow like byron leftwich, and almost side armed wind up like bernie kosar. i also dont see arm strength or accuracy.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Hilarious! gus Johnson drops a RAAAIIIDEEEERRRRS like we do at the coliseum, on fords td.
Ford is the truth!
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Gus is my favorite announcer on CBS. Did you hear him quoting Tim Tebow? “Im Tim Tebow and I’m an athlete that happens to play QB. I plan on winning in this league.” LMFAO!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:49 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Jason Campbell with the exception of Tennessee, half of St Louis & half of Pittsburgh has been killing it this year. The guy is a winner
no way he should have been benched for a guy like Bruce Gradkowski EVER this season. Grads lost 3 games that JCamp could have been the difference in!
Another year in the Hue Jax offense and some upgrades at OL & WR will have this guy in the playoffs & Pro Bowl next year.
hilarious that 95 percent of you bought those b.s. Washington stats JFB posted a gazillion times from April to August. Oakland looks like crap without Jason and Washington looked pretty tough with Rex Grossman yesterday in for Donovan Overrated McNabb
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Wait this is what i have been saying all year long.
Something that is also under the radar where jc is concerned, he is tough as nails. he has been knocked out of three staright games and came back in to play well.
he showed lots of guts pulling out a win without his A game, just like the kc game.
he can win lots of different ways. because he isnt a fist pumping screamer, people fail to appreciate the kind of pro he is. he isnt flashy, he is just a blue collar, hard working play maker that leads by example.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:52 am
The only real bone headed thing I’ve seen him do yesterday was throw right to the Denver’s D yesterday! Wasn’t that a D Lineman? Other than that…the second int was overthrown and he did good after!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:52 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:37 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:34 am
if the Raiders, Bengals & Titans all win in Week 16 there will probably be a riot in Oakland …
If it happens, I’ll start a riot in LA for ya’ll
December 20th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Td run by tebow is inexcusable! you know this is the best part of his game, you know that he isnt going to throw down field on 3rd and 24. You have to expect a screen or draw, or qb draw.
kelly seymour romac and mitchell were absolutely stone walled. The oline was at the second level with zero resistance. the middle of the defense looked like 580 east.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:55 am
December 20th, 2010 at 9:52 am
inonewordraider Says:
hwnrdr Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:37 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:34 am
if the Raiders, Bengals & Titans all win in Week 16 there will probably be a riot in Oakland …
If it happens, I’ll start a riot in LA for ya’ll
Haha…that means all of Cali will be rioting…LOL
December 20th, 2010 at 9:57 am
M Lonetree Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Dakota,
your boy had another fine day (except for handing the ball to the defender), but here’s a little bit of Raider tradition – Pete Banaszak in 1975 scored 16 TDs, most every one of them from inside the 2 yard line. Why? Same as Bush, he’d get in the endzone.
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you don’t have to go back that far. Remember
zach crockett. 16 blast
December 20th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Cincy beat Cleveland by running the ball and stopping the run … they didn’t even need Terrell Owens or Jermaine Gresham!
They’ll have to beat SD the same way.
The Titans beat Houston by running the ball and stopping the run … they didn’t even need Randy Moss or Bo Scaife!
They’ll have to beat KC the same way.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:59 am
190.504 Raider Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
Champ Bailey said (about McFadden) “he was the hardest guy in the League to bring down. You don’t realize how big he is.”
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But he has to ride the pine in the red zone so we can keep a second string RB happy.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Seymour and kelly do their best warren and sapp impersonation and leave their gaps. Defense was completely exposed. Thanks guys.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Relatives flying in from SF this afternoon for Christmas…how is the weather out there?
December 20th, 2010 at 10:02 am
I’m happy w/ our team. OL will be improved next year with Velheer going the whole year and Bruce replacing Carlisle. D will be better with Rolando having a full year under his belt qb’ing the d. Special teams will be better going w/ Ford the whole year. Jason will be better understanding the O. WR’s will be better with more experience and due to their work ethic. We really do need a stud WR however. There are times when a WR has single coverage deep or otherwise and Jason doesn’t pull the trigger due to lack of confidence of his receiver and there are other times he does throw it and VJackson type would have found a way to make the play. Our passing game is our weakest link and Vjackson along w/ another solid draft would put us at an elite level.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Dakota…its cloudy and raining off an on…its supposed to rain til Thursday I believe…
December 20th, 2010 at 10:08 am
The announcers are way over the top on Tebow but let’s look at this objectively.
He was the greatest HS QB maybe ever. Certainly in the state of Florida.
He was arguably the greatest collegiate QB ever.
And in his first NFL start, on the road against the NFL’s best pass rush, held his own and outplayed the 6 year vet he replaced.
I don’t think he will be great, but he will play about 12+ years in this league, and be solid.
If Orton plays yesterday, we would have beaten them by 30 or more.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Our passing game is our weakest link and Vjackson along w/ another solid draft would put us at an elite level.
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your best hope is that the Raiders current group of young wides mature quickly this offseason and get on the same page with franchise QB Jason Campbell
Higgins & Nmiller are gone and I’m guessing Al Davis will draft another play making trackstar like Jacoby Ford in the later rounds
Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Ford, Schilens & rookie = WR Corps next season
there will be some big names available, but Davis & Cable will have a rather low key offseason and we’ll be better for it
December 20th, 2010 at 10:09 am
Not saying that McNabb has anything left in the tank, but you cannot see the old man bringing in McNabb to show up the Rat?
December 20th, 2010 at 10:09 am
When is the Cinci/SD game? Wouldn’t that be on East Coast time too? I heard that it was moved up from a Sunday night game to a regular 1:00 game…so, if KC and SD loses by 1, the Raiders have to do the same…run the ball, but stop Peyton Manning! Man, that Jags game…
December 20th, 2010 at 10:10 am
I love Gus Johnson as well.
The guy makes crappy football seem exciting, and his calls in the NCAA tourney are epic.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Jonesy941 Says:
December 19th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
give JC another year before we try and throw him out bring in rookie in draft
I’m telling you with a stud WR those deep passes thrown to ford are caught and I saw DHB single covered deep yesterday and that ball would have been thrown and caught. Welker makes Brady looks good sometimes, Wayne does it for Manning, Ward did it so many years for Ben, White does it for Ryan etc. These are guys are great qb’s but not every throw they make is perfect but a stud Wr makes a not perfect throw look perfect sometimes
December 20th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Rockstar,
Last two games that Rolando has played (SD and Den) their RB’s have something like 41 carries for 49 yards.
Thoughts???
December 20th, 2010 at 10:12 am
There were many times DHB was single covered by a linebacker! JC did miss that a few times, but yeah…he must not have faith in DHB…
December 20th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Not saying that McNabb has anything left in the tank, but you cannot see the old man bringing in McNabb to show up the Rat?
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Davis will roll the dice with Fat Albert before he overpays that average loser McNabb!
we already stuck it to Allen & Shanny by getting JCamp for next to nothing and him outplaying the guy they replaced him with (and gave a huge contract & wasted draft picks on) LOL
December 20th, 2010 at 10:14 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:10 am
I love Gus Johnson as well.
The guy makes crappy football seem exciting, and his calls in the NCAA tourney are epic.
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Any guy that compares JR to Johnny Unitas is OK in my bood. LOL!
December 20th, 2010 at 10:14 am
hwnrdr Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:09 am
When is the Cinci/SD game? Wouldn’t that be on East Coast time too? I heard that it was moved up from a Sunday night game to a regular 1:00 game…so, if KC and SD loses by 1, the Raiders have to do the same…run the ball, but stop Peyton Manning! Man, that Jags game…
I hope all of our guys have they’re cell phones off! I don’t want them knowing what happened in the early game KC v Tenn (SD game scheduled for 1 pm PST). UNLESS KC loses, then let em know so they really have something to play for
December 20th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Last two games that Rolando has played (SD and Den) their RB’s have something like 41 carries for 49 yards.
Thoughts???
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I guess he isn’t faking an injury, like Norcal Bobby thought … why remove QB rushing stats?
December 20th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Huff & Routt are losers!!! Routt playing 10 yards off of lloyd at the snap. LLyod is fast and runs pulls even then pulls away as if routt is in quicksand!! First of all why is rouut 10 yards off at the snap, lloyd is the least physical receiver in the history of football. A stiff wind xcan knock him off his routs. Then the ball in the air goes right through stans hands.
Worse than that huff tracking them in the back of the endzone takes his eyes off the ball!?!? What was he doing?!?! the ball hits his knee and bounces right into the recievers lap! Outrageouse
December 20th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Inonewordraider,
speculative 2011 NFL rotation schedule
Raiders v Pats, Jets, Bears, Packers on the road.
SD/KC v Pats, Jets, Bears, Packers at home.
the team had better keep improving.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:17 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:08 am
The announcers are way over the top on Tebow but let’s look at this objectively.
He was the greatest HS QB maybe ever. Certainly in the state of Florida.
He was arguably the greatest collegiate QB ever.
And in his first NFL start, on the road against the NFL’s best pass rush, held his own and outplayed the 6 year vet he replaced.
I don’t think he will be great, but he will play about 12+ years in this league, and be solid.
If Orton plays yesterday, we would have beaten them by 30 or more.
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let me get this staright. you like tebow, but dont like newton?!?!?!
laughable
December 20th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Good morning Nation.
I’m not sold on Cable, i would still jeeo hum one more year, but I think Marshall has to go.
The offense is improving, so I would consider keeping Hue too.
Fire Marshall and Sanjay Lal!
December 20th, 2010 at 10:17 am
why remove QB rushing stats?
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Fine.
50 carries for 120 yards. 2.4 ypc.
The guys is going to be great. Not good, great.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Going in blindly may be the best hope for this team, weather KC loses or not! I think Tenn can beat KC, but…they win, we’re out before we even take the field and that may be a good thing or a bad thing! They can spoil Indy’s playoffs also…or they can lay down and call it quits with nothing to play for but pride!
December 20th, 2010 at 10:18 am
the Raiders have to do the same…run the ball, but stop Peyton Manning!
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Manning is a pocket passer. The Raiders have an excellent pass rush. We’re not going to roll out rookies on starting WR’s like we did against Ben & Chad after the bye week, nor do I see us going with a 5 safety package (JAX) or zone scheme (SF)
We’ll be fine. John Marshall has learned a few important lessons so far this season imo
December 20th, 2010 at 10:18 am
give JC another year before we try and throw him out bring in rookie in draft
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It’s BECAUSE the Raiders have Campbell that bringing in a rookie now is the right move. No pressure on the rookie because he’s not expected to “save the franchise”. Less pressure on Campbell than there was with Gradkowski here because the rook needs some time to sit on the bench and learn the game. And the Raiders win because should Campbell end up NOT being the long-term answer at QB, they have a young kid with upside to turn to in 2012.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:19 am
let me get this staright. you like tebow, but dont like newton?!?!?!
laughable
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Tebow is a stand up guy, Newton is cheater.
But they are about the same coming into the NFL. Spotty mechanics, no grasp of an NFL offense, all-world athlete.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:20 am
I like that YA! But who’s out there? I think Luck and Newton will be gone, so…
December 20th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Routt is garbage.
I like Huff, but I like to sign a player like J Joseph over Huff. Branch and Mitchell can start at Ss, and JJ and Nnamdi at CBs.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:21 am
I’m telling you with a stud WR those deep passes thrown to ford are caught.
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I disagree. I think Ford has proven himself to be a WR that can go and fight for the ball. My friend at the game with me yesterday is a HUGE JC fan and even he admitted that Ford went to the inside and JC threw it to the outside for the DB. We were lucky Ford was fighting hard to prevent an int. JC needs to put it where Ford can go fight for it and he has proven to us that he will fight for it. Chaz was 1v1 a few times and JC never threw his way. Has Chaz even caught a ball yet?
December 20th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Routt is a good DB before the throw, but he has terrible ball skills, and is not a very good tackler.
DB and WR are clearly two of the biggest needs for this team.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:23 am
What’s up Aig…did you swing by D Lot yesterday? Anyways…I don’t think Chaz has got anything this year but his injuries!
December 20th, 2010 at 10:24 am
required reading so re-posting.
Reggie,
Campbell’s rookie year when he sat, the Skins made the playoffs with Mark Brunell.
They also made the playoffs in 2007 after JC got hurt.
The Skins made the playoff twice in Campbell’s first 3 years, both when he sat.
They were not garbage by any means.
Campbell can beat bad teams when we run for 200.
Campbell looks like a rookie vs good run ds like pitt, Tenn, st Louis, and SF.
Don’t ignore those games.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Dmac is incredible, he makes cuts at almost full speed, even on a wet field!!! best rb we have had since nap, and he will be better than nap.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:24 am
Huff is playing well this season, but you can’t tell if he is doing it for the money or he really improved. A lot of players play well in contact years, and then they go back to playing avg again.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:25 am
# hwnrdr Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:20 am
I like that YA! But who’s out there? I think Luck and Newton will be gone, so…
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I think Locker could fall into the second round. Pat Devlin and Nathan Enderle will be around in the third round, and those two guys are big-armed, high-football-IQ guys who come from pro-style offenses. I think the Raiders could definitely do worse.
Plus it works out better than picking a QB in the first round because the coaches will not hesitate to keep him on the bench if he doesn’t progress quickly. He won’t come with the “OMGZ FUTURE OF THE FRANCHISE” label that first-rounders generally do.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Campbell is who Campbell is.
Not sure why he gets credit for toughing it out when he gets hurt and leaves and than comes back.
Aren’t the guys who never leave in the first place much tougher?
December 20th, 2010 at 10:28 am
The reason Brad Smith never played QB in the NFL is because he can’t complete a 15 yard sideline out, but he can return kickoffs 100 yards for TD’s.
Pretty simple answer to me.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:29 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:19 am
let me get this staright. you like tebow, but dont like newton?!?!?!
laughable
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Tebow is a stand up guy, Newton is cheater.
But they are about the same coming into the NFL. Spotty mechanics, no grasp of an NFL offense, all-world athlete.
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Please. tebow has bad mechanics, newton is nowhere near that. they dont compare at all in any way what so ever. Tebow couldnt carry newtons jock in a backpack while driving a forklift!
cam newton is way better than tebow will ever be and it isnt even close.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Hwnrdr,
Bro, I had a great time. Got there at 9:15 am and actually parked in Lot D near the Blackhole tent. It was a long, cold and wet day for sure. Sat 5 rows back in section 145 and, for anyone that goes to the game, you should go to row 5 and 6 section 145. There aint anyone there. I had my black Raider Poncho on so I figured there was no way you’d see my blank 34 jersey.
Enjoyed the game and crowd was awesome as always. I did get a front row seat to the Tebow and Routt show. Routt for the wrong reason though. Tebow played better than I thought.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Funny when guys say we’d be a playoff tram if we hadn’t shuffled Qbs early on.
Why did we shuffle them? Rookie-like outings by JC in his first two starts against quality defenses and another two stinkers vs SF and Steelers.
That’s not a playoff QB.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:31 am
We need:
DC
CB
C
G/T (depends on Gallery, Walker, and Campbell)
Vet WR (we have enough young talent, so we need a vet help)
I also would like to add a blocking FB, and use Reece more in the passing game as an extra TE.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:31 am
I’d take my chances on a raw Newton over the limited Teblow every time.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:33 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:28 am
The reason Brad Smith never played QB in the NFL is because he can’t complete a 15 yard sideline out, but he can return kickoffs 100 yards for TD’s.
Pretty simple answer to me.
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Where are you getting that from. Did you ever watch him at mizzu? he made every throw. He was one of the best qbs in the country. he threw for over eight thousand yards in 3 years as a starter.
Try again
December 20th, 2010 at 10:33 am
447.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Campbell is who Campbell is.
Not sure why he gets credit for toughing it out when he gets hurt and leaves and than comes back.
Aren’t the guys who never leave in the first place much tougher?
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sup JFB, yeah I listented to the local radio yesterday and nearly puked. OMFG, they were saying how brave and resilient he was for coming back in. LMAO.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:34 am
JFB,
playing hurt, and playing well while hurt is impressive. Stop hatin’
December 20th, 2010 at 10:35 am
It looks like they’re starting to use Reece more as a blocking TE in two-TE sets.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:35 am
alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:30 am
Funny when guys say we’d be a playoff tram if we hadn’t shuffled Qbs early on.
Why did we shuffle them? Rookie-like outings by JC in his first two starts against quality defenses and another two stinkers vs SF and Steelers.
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Sup A7,
If you read the comments for the post Miami game, you’d think that JC lit up Pitt and it was a travesty he was benched for the Mia game. Hilarious.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:35 am
I’m not saying Cam Newton can’t be better than Tebow.
Just not sold on a guy who went to 3 colleges in 3 years, has never ATTEMPTED a pass when taking a snap from center, and cheats on tests to be a leader of my team.
Could care less about the money thing, more concerned that he had the gall to cheat on a freshmen college class.
It’s the University of Florida!!! He could probably right his name on the paper, Cam Newton QB, and leave the rest blank and get a C.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Matt Flynn = Living proof that QBs are only as good as their supporting casts.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:36 am
JaTebow?
December 20th, 2010 at 10:36 am
I still don’t think a new defensive coordinator is going to change anything about the way the Raiders run their defense.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:36 am
459.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Could care less about the money thing, more concerned that he had the gall to cheat on a freshmen college class.
It’s the University of Florida!!! He could probably right his name on the paper, Cam Newton QB, and leave the rest blank and get a C.
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lmfao
December 20th, 2010 at 10:37 am
I’ll take neither Tebow nor Newton, thanks.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Mistic,
You can say he was a great QB, but the NFL didn’t agree.
He was like the 12th QB drafted that year. What do you know that the rest of the NFL, including the great Al Davis, don’t?
December 20th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Ford is like Wes Welker.
If he doesn’t have a great quarterback like he didn’t have in miami he will be average over the course of the year something like 700 yards a game with a couple of huge games and a couple of disappearing acts.
We need a big possession receiver to move the chains when opponents take away the dump offs.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:37 am
I think JC is a good vet that can win us games, but he can’t carry the team.
He is not P Manning!
December 20th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Is it just me or is Zack Miller the worst blocking TE in the league?
He is good for at least holding penalty a game it seems, and whenever a play is blown up in the backfield, he seems prominently involved.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:41 am
We don’t have a 1st RD pick, and Newton Will Not drop to the 2nd RD.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Watching Maclin and Nicks having good years makes the DHB pick more painfull.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:42 am
Debo, all it means is he is a good quarterback look at what happened with the vikings and the titans when they’re starting quarterback went down or didn’t play as well. Season was over. it’s a quarterback league
December 20th, 2010 at 10:43 am
I wanted either Nicks or Harvin in that draft, but oh well. Maybe DHB will have a big third year like Dwayne Bowe. We can only hope at this point.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:45 am
DHB made a great catch yesterday, but than he had another game with 1 or fewer catches.
His growth is not progressing as much as I thought heading into the season.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:46 am
I wanted Ryan Clady. Oh, wrong draft…
December 20th, 2010 at 10:47 am
I didn’t want to go WR at all…I wanted Oher or Raji…but if we were going to draft one, I wanted Maclin.
Oh well. Throw them blocks, DHB! That totally makes you not a bust.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:48 am
I did watch DHB line up on Champ on one play and just run down the field towards the sideline, and never really turn around.
The greatness of the decoy!!
December 20th, 2010 at 10:48 am
JC is a solid QB, and we can win with him.
JC didn’t play against AZ, Houston, or Miami. He also played well against the Jags, but our defense allowed 31 points in the 2nd half.
Keep JC one more season, and let him start the entire season .
December 20th, 2010 at 10:49 am
“I still don’t think a new defensive coordinator is going to change anything about the way the Raiders run their defense.”
More required reading.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Hopefully Al brings in Vincent Jackson or Sidney Rice, and then the Raiders will have the best #4 receiver in the league in DHB.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Who named that list of teams Cowher is willing to coach? He didn’t say that himself did he? Giants, Phins or Texans? He wouldn’t undercut current coaches like that would he?
December 20th, 2010 at 10:52 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Mistic,
You can say he was a great QB, but the NFL didn’t agree.
He was like the 12th QB drafted that year. What do you know that the rest of the NFL, including the great Al Davis, don’t?
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The knock was that he played in the spread, and at that time the nfl turned up their noses at spread qbs.
Also he was such a tremendous runner, people failed to realize how good of a passer he was.
If he was in this upcoming draft it might have been different. he was way better than tebow, who i just watched make a jump pass from the pocket 30 yds down field, that should have been picked.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:53 am
# Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:48 am
JC is a solid QB, and we can win with him.
JC didn’t play against AZ, Houston, or Miami. He also played well against the Jags, but our defense allowed 31 points in the 2nd half.
Keep JC one more season, and let him start the entire season .
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benching jc for az houston and miami probably cost us the tittle of surprise team, and a trip to the playoffs. Inexcusable!
December 20th, 2010 at 10:54 am
At this point we need a vet WR. Chaz (hadn’t played), Murphy, Ford, and DHB are young and developing, so we need to add a vet to help the young guys develop. He will also help the entire offense.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:54 am
What turns my stomach is that people would have a whole different perception of how Tebow played yesterday if Routt didn’t let a sure INT float through his hands.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:57 am
We can all agree that if KC loses and we win next week, we are all going to be the biggest Tim Tebow fans ever the last week!!!
December 20th, 2010 at 10:58 am
We need to add a CB.
We are paying Routt & CJ $6-7 mil combined. We can use that salary for a good CB in FA like J Joseph.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:00 am
DHB showed what we need to see from him yesterday. He went up in the air caught the ball on the sideline then turned up
field and almost had another home run. he has shown to be very good on the boundry this year, and is a threat to run away from every one once he catches the ball. they need to feed him a steady diet of the sideline stop routs. so far this is what he does best.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:01 am
So much for that garbage about jc not getting receivers involved. he is spreading the ball to so many different targets it is making it very difficult for the defense to key on any one guy. this is why our passing game is starting to come together, even with green wrs
December 20th, 2010 at 11:02 am
# Raider O Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 10:58 am
We need to add a CB.
We are paying Routt & CJ $6-7 mil combined. We can use that salary for a good CB in FA like J Joseph.
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Agreed. It’s not that Routt hasn’t improved from his previous seasons, or that he’s not at least a serviceable CB… but he’s a free agent, and the Raiders can do much better at the position. Why pay Routt when you could pay Joseph even a little bit more, and in return get a much more solid man corner who is a better tackler and makes more plays? If teams are just going to pick on the guy playing opposite of Nnamdi, then that guy better be pretty damn good.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:03 am
We need to trim the fat off this team in terms of players and their salaries, so we can sign a few good FAs that can help go to the POs.
We need to resign Seymour, Miller, Wimbley, and Gallery. I hope we can resign Bush, but we can always draft another back in later RDs.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:03 am
Another jump pass from the pocket! tebow is a joke!
December 20th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Aig…that’s cool, bro! We got there a little later than usual. About 9:30, in lot D in the middle of row 14! Went out and partied a little too hard Saturday night in San Jose so I wasn’t really feeling it yesterday! But…had a good time nonetheless…
December 20th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Another myth bites the dust. They tried to tell me jc lacked mobility, he had two runs for more than 20 yds.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Routt is on AD’s scholarship program. He’s not going anywhere.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:10 am
# aig-raiders Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:08 am
Routt is on AD’s scholarship program. He’s not going anywhere.
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That’s the unfortunate thing about it. There’s a better chance he’ll get re-signed than Bush or Huff. I’m not even that crazy about Huff, but he’s had a better season than Routt by far.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:10 am
I’d be fine with getting rid of Routt if get a good man coverage corner, we don’t need another Deangelo Hall.
But you should also beware that if Al gets rid of Routt, the next couple 1st and 2nd round picks will be used to find his speedy replacement (if we don’t get Joseph).
December 20th, 2010 at 11:11 am
Yeah, if Al doesn’t get Routt back for whatever reason, the 2nd round pick will almost certainly be a CB.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:11 am
How can the worst pass rush in the nfl be getting pressure on the qb?? Wow our pass protection is going to be a real issue against mathis and freeny
December 20th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Yeah the key matchup against the Colts is going to be Mathis and Freeney v.s. Veldheer and Walker/Henderson.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:14 am
We unfortunately had the front row seat to the Stanford Routt Toast program yesterday. It was awful. I have never liked that dude and still believe he gets by with pure dumb luck. He has zero football instincts. When he goes against guys that can actually catch like Lloyd, he gets burned.
Routt and MeAngelo Hall are nfl pros that get masked by the stats.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:14 am
I also have a sinking feeling that the Colts are going to be able to run the ball effectively against the Raiders.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:15 am
If the team really is starting to believe, it has to be now! WE have to show that we can win outside of the west (5-0 in AFC West, 2-2 vs NFC West which in my opinion should be 9-0 in all the west). The only shot is Sunday against the great Peyton Manning!
December 20th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Wow carlisle stinks. he just got pushed back into the pocket sliding backwards like the little mermaid in disney on ice!
December 20th, 2010 at 11:16 am
I dont think they can run on us. They’ve had trouble all year running. I worry about Peyton picking Routt apart. The only way we win this weekend is getting pressure on Peyton and getting DMAC a ton of touches.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Mistic…he is the one that ran into JC last week also!
December 20th, 2010 at 11:17 am
Agreed, Aig!
December 20th, 2010 at 11:18 am
The frustrating thing is that if Wisniewski doesn’t fall to the Raiders, Satele might be their best bet at C. Weak FA and draft class at that position.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:18 am
Lost in all of this, another hero for us has to be Jano yesterday. The field was awful and he manned up. His FG’s were right down the middle and his punt contributed to a game changing fumble too.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:19 am
YoungAmerican Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:14 am
I also have a sinking feeling that the Colts are going to be able to run the ball effectively against the Raiders.
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I don’t see that. The Colts have been one of the worst rushing teams in the league this year. Our d-line should control that.
This is what worries me in this game:
1) Freeney and Mathis getting consistent pressure on Campbell, causing him to go into a shell and take a bunch of sacks, miss seeing open receivers and turn the ball over.
2) Peyton Manning and Indy’s precision passing game (which generally should scare any defense).
The Colts running game is a joke.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:20 am
# aig-raiders Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:16 am
I dont think they can run on us. They’ve had trouble all year running. I worry about Peyton picking Routt apart. The only way we win this weekend is getting pressure on Peyton and getting DMAC a ton of touches.
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Just a hunch. The Raiders are going to be expecting the pass, and the Colts know how to play a balanced football game.
If the passing game works like it usually does with Peyton Manning, be prepared to see a couple long runs get broken off…
December 20th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Romac is becoming a play maker. Knifing through the the line and playing in the backfield!!! Kirk who?
December 20th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I was forced to watch the Indy/Jags game yesterday, and got to see Kirk whiffing on some leg tackles seven or eight yards past the LOS.
Ah, memories.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:24 am
His FG’s were right down the middle and his punt contributed to a game changing fumble too.
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Jano has been carrying Condo for years…
December 20th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Manning can be had. Not a good idea to blitz him, with our shaky secondary. but if our natural pressure can get hits on him he folds like cheap undies.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:25 am
# YoungAmerican Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I was forced to watch the Indy/Jags game yesterday, and got to see Kirk whiffing on some leg tackles seven or eight yards past the LOS.
Ah, memories.
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I love when he burrows into the turf like a gopher, diving at the rbs ankles.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Has Satele even been that bad lately? He had a key block for Ford’s run
December 20th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Each Raiders defensive player is going to need to have a career day in order to keep their playoff hopes alive.
Garcon on Routt… well, I don’t even want to think about that right now.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:27 am
# Guy Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:25 am
Has Satele even been that bad lately? He had a key block for Ford’s run
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His run blocking has improved greatly as the season has gone on, but his pass blocking is still a little suspect. Wouldn’t mind re-signing him if the Raiders can’t find a top-tier C in the draft. Basically that means either Wiz or Pouncey… and even Pouncey there are questions about. It’s not a great draft/FA class for Cs at all.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:32 am
How many times have we seen routt running stride for stride with receivers only in perfect position only to fail to turn and make a play on the ball? seriously he could have 4 or 5 picks this year instead a pulls a face guard chest bump and give up the pi.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:33 am
1. We are certainly capable of beating the Colts.
2. The Titans are certainly capable of beating the Chefs.
3. The Bengals — that’s right — the Bengals are capable of beating the visiting Chargers.
Let me explain this last one:
First, the Chargers are not even remotely as good as the media likes to believe. Other than Rivers, they’re an average team, if you ask me.
And the Bengals are not as bad as their 3-11 record would suggest. They beat the Ravens earlier this year. They lost by less than a touchdown to Pittsburgh, @Indy, New Orleans and @Atlanta.
The Bengals are due to get a couple of bounces their way if their hearts are still in it. And they’re at home hosting the warm-weather, cocky Chokers the day after Christmas in what should be freezing temps.
However, the chances of all 3 happening together are not great. But not crazy. Man, I’d love it to come down to a winner-take-all for the division in KC on Jan. 2.
If you’re interested, here’s what the oddsmakers say:
Indy -3 at Raiders
Titans +5 at Chiefs
Chargers -7 at Bengals
December 20th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Manning can be had. Not a good idea to blitz him, with our shaky secondary. but if our natural pressure can get hits on him he folds like cheap undies.
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Possibly the greatest myth on this board is that our secondary is shaky. We’re basically top-5 in terms of pass defense.
I think the myth stems from the fact our own passing game has struggled so much for so long that the expectations of our own secondary gets raised to an unrealistic level.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Young American,
Bowe had monster seasons his first two years.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:41 am
The defense may be 11th in yards, but they are 20th in points, they really need to fix giving up big plays. And don’t the raiders get passed against the least in the league? That could be why they have the #5 passing D
December 20th, 2010 at 11:43 am
# alex7 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:39 am
Young American,
Bowe had monster seasons his first two years.
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Interesting, I didn’t know this was his fourth season in the league, I thought he was a 3rd year player. Turns out his third year was actually his worst.
Learn something new every day, I guess.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:46 am
Guy Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:41 am
The defense may be 11th in yards, but they are 20th in points, they really need to fix giving up big plays. And don’t the raiders get passed against the least in the league? That could be why they have the #5 passing D
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We’re also 2nd in the NFL in comp. pct. allowed to QBs.
Agree about the big plays. Not sure what it is with this D but it’s been an ongoing problem. It’s frustrating as hell and it’s against the run and pass. We’ll stifle teams play after play, series after series, then they’ll pop up with a 40-to-70-yard TD out of nowhere — often on 3rd down.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:46 am
# Chris in NY Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Manning can be had. Not a good idea to blitz him, with our shaky secondary. but if our natural pressure can get hits on him he folds like cheap undies.
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Possibly the greatest myth on this board is that our secondary is shaky. We’re basically top-5 in terms of pass defense.
I think the myth stems from the fact our own passing game has struggled so much for so long that the expectations of our own secondary gets raised to an unrealistic level.
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You never know what the hell your talking about.
namdi is top shelf. routt cj macfadden branch and huff are more than suspect. how can you not know that?
Our pass defense ranking is misleading. Most teams try to run the ball at us rather than pass.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:52 am
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?offensiveStatisticCategory=null&archive=false&seasonType=REG&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&d-447263-s=RUSHING_ATTEMPTS&d-447263-n=1&season=2010&qualified=true&Submit=Go&tabSeq=2&role=OPP&d-447263-p=1
We are run at 8th most in the league and have given up the most 40 yard + runs by 1 (broncos are one below us). Runners are also averaging 4.5 yards a carry (12t worst in the league)
December 20th, 2010 at 11:54 am
Chris, yes, the possibility of all 3 happening is a long shot but for some reason, I believe! I just hope that if it happens, and we get an winner takes all game on Jan 2, that we don’t come out like a ton of bricks! That would be an ultimate pisser!!!
December 20th, 2010 at 11:56 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:46 am
# Chris in NY Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:37 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 11:24 am
Manning can be had. Not a good idea to blitz him, with our shaky secondary. but if our natural pressure can get hits on him he folds like cheap undies.
———————————-
Possibly the greatest myth on this board is that our secondary is shaky. We’re basically top-5 in terms of pass defense.
I think the myth stems from the fact our own passing game has struggled so much for so long that the expectations of our own secondary gets raised to an unrealistic level.
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You never know what the hell your talking about.
namdi is top shelf. routt cj macfadden branch and huff are more than suspect. how can you not know that?
Our pass defense ranking is misleading. Most teams try to run the ball at us rather than pass.
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Routt and CJ are solid No. 2 CBs.
McFadden basically played in one game this year.
Huff is borderline Pro Bowl material.
Branch really struggled early, but has pulled it together of late coming off a pretty nice 2009 season.
Mitchell is an exciting young player who I could see becoming a star in this league.
Eugene is an excellent special teams player and high-quality for a reserve safety.
Stevie Brown is a good-looking rookie player.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:57 am
But for some reason, I can also see if KC wins before kick off, that the team will not care and pack it in. Gawd, I hope not!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
” Jason Campbell has made some great decisions with the football today, and hes been so poised, hes been helped off the field once. Tough gritty performance by the quarter back, Campbell has been great” -steve tasker
December 20th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Chris,
routt and cj should only be back ups. Huff and branch never know where they are supposed to be on the field, blown coverages all year long.
mitchell and brown are solid young guys that should be starting now.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
You guys seem to have forgotten Schweigert, Hall and Gibson. This is the best Raider secondary since 2002.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Schweigert had one good play when he laid out Tony Gonzalez…other than that, Stewie was a joke! LOL
December 20th, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I can’t forgive Stu for so few interceptions. He was all world at Purdue!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
But at least Stu wasn’t a first round whiff like Gibson, PBuch, Fabian and Pat Bates…
December 20th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
I know…thats why…how many int’s did he have anyways?
December 20th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
But at least Stu wasn’t a first round whiff like Gibson, PBuch, Fabian and Pat Bates…
That is true, Bo! Philip Buchanan was at least a good returner, until he mysteriously lost that skill. Gibson, well, was he better than Dorsett? LOL…Fabian was in the wrong system, but I think I would have kept him over Routt…Pat Bates? Haha….
December 20th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
McClain makes 1 tackle behind the line of scrimmage and now he’s a DROY candidate?
LOL!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
I would like to see a better WR coach hired on and Lal, go back to being offensive quality control assistant or something.
They should just hire Tollner as the WR coach.
As of now….re signing Satele is a MUST!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
The Raiders finished the game with 11 tackles for losses.
What exactly did Cable say to spur this kind of play?
Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha was in the training room.
“I knew he was going crazy,’’ Asomugha said. “I just didn’t know what he was saying.’’
“You don’t want to know,’’ quarterback Jason Campbell said.
“We got chewed out at halftime,’’ Kelly said. “We let them stay in the game. He was like, `Man, don’t give nobody no hope. Let’s not come in here after the game and talk about how we missed this chance. He wanted us to go out there in the second half and step on their necks.’’
Asked to be more specific with regard to Cable’s halftime talk, Kelly said they were told, “Get off your ass and play. Take advantage of what you got. You know this team. They’re going to give you an opportunity to put them away. Put them away. Step on their throat. He just kept saying it over and over again. Step on their throat.’’
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Tom Cable needs to win these final 2 games and then if Al Davis doesn’t bring him back (opting instead for Hue Jax), he will be hired as HC for Denver or San Diego – you heard it here first!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
trade RoBust for Patrick Bates!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
trade Nick Miller & Sanjay Lal for a Stuart Schweigert bobblehead!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
539.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
McClain makes 1 tackle behind the line of scrimmage and now he’s a DROY candidate?
LOL!
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Hmm…his value to the defense was obvious when he was not in there in the J-Ville game.
R Brown was awful in the 2nd half….just like the whole defense was overall.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Rockstar
I see you’re putting in another full day of work at the Podunk Municipal Dump.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Hmm…his value to the defense was obvious when he was not in there in the J-Ville game.
R Brown was awful in the 2nd half….just like the whole defense was overall.
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propaganda.
go back and watch those long TD runs by Jennings & MJD
victims = Kelly & Wimbley on the MJD run. Routt & Moss on the RJ run
run defense issue is moot anyways if Ford doesn’t fumble or Boller doesn’t throw that INT. How about the 2 TD’s Huff gave up? 5 safety defense?
blaming Ricky Brown is silly bro.
you’re a liberal though, so it doesn’t surprise me that you make stuff up and try to pass it off as FACT
December 20th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
The Raiders played like a proud football.Cable was right on point about the Raiders keeping a team in the game to long. They need to put their feet on inferior teams throat by half time. you know like playoof teams do. Overall the Raiders played like a playoff team. I saw some great tacking ALL GAME LONG with one exception. Chris Johnson should have put his shoulders on Tebow. Instead he reverted back to soft tackling style that haunted their past.
Great win!!!!!!!!!!
Raiders Be with you
December 20th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
KK, is it racist to name my new black great dane Lamont? I respect your unrivalled expertise in this area…
December 20th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Kell,
so if you don’t blog from work … that means you spend all day every day of your own time in here talking about worthless crap such as Al Davis W/L record and personnel decisions?
you don’t have a life, or so it seems.
a guy with your attitude & personality probably doesn’t make many (if any) friends
December 20th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Ricky Brown was HORRIBLE! He got juked so bad it made Nnamdi’s ankle swell up…
McClain for DROY!
December 20th, 2010 at 12:51 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
KK, is it racist to name my new black great dane Lamont? I respect your unrivalled expertise in this area…
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Ah, the two Podunk Race Baiters
December 20th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
you’re a liberal though, so it doesn’t surprise me that you make stuff up and try to pass it off as FACT
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Like fox news?
December 20th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
If the dog was female she would be named Aunt Esther…
December 20th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
He got juked so bad it made Nnamdi’s ankle swell up…
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LOL!
put a #55 jersey on Ricky Brown and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference
December 20th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
I like that we are able to agree on disagreeing, and this is one of those times…RoMac may not be great but he has gotten better. His non presence was felt in Jacksonville and was felt yesterday. The Bornco’s as a team would have had more rushing yards than was put on paper yesterday, but the D stopped them behind the LOS quite a few times, and one led to a safety which help put the game away! Tebow, well, was Tebow of the Gators yesterday, and that is to expected…
December 20th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
WOOHOOOOOOOO!!
Tom Cable for President
December 20th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
*slap
December 20th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Swept the discharge and dungeaters
Now to sweep the fat red a holes
December 20th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
It sure feels good to have the Raiders winning again
December 20th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Serious question.
Will the Catholic church give Al sainthood before or after he passes away.
I say before, after all he perporms miricles
December 20th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Right now the Raiders should be 9-5 at worst.
No excuse for losing to Cards or Niners.
Wow. What could have been.
December 20th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Finished up all my work early, so I’m surfin’ the net. I decide to look up the Wikipedia entry on the Herschel Walker trade, because I was curious about just what specific players and picks were involved…and I see this:
“Johnson felt the Cowboys were so terrible that only a blockbuster trade could help them. He briefly considered trading wide receiver Michael Irvin to the Los Angeles Raiders, but Raiders owner Al Davis essentially talked Johnson out of the trade by saying, “You sure you want to do that? Who is going to catch passes for you?”
December 20th, 2010 at 1:20 pm
So much speed on this team. The FB outruns the defense on a screen pass!
Campbell is still shaky at times, but is much improved.
Hope Al holds it all together and improves this unit for a serious run next year.
Can you imagine the vibe at camp next year if this team finishes 9-7? Talk about fired up and ready to get to work!
December 20th, 2010 at 1:25 pm
The team hasn’t given up at all this year and that is the mentality of good teams to great teams! No longer can a team overlook the Raiders and its been a long time in getting that back!
December 20th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Titans and Bengals do their jobs this week and this season will be the post season.
December 20th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
All I want for Christmas is a 3 game parlay to come through:
Tennessee at Kansas City Tennessee +5.50 1.91
Indianapolis at Oakland Oakland +3.00 1.87
San Diego at Cincinnati Cincinnati +7.50 1.91 Combination
Price: 6.81 Bet Amount: $100.00 Bet Payout: $ 681.00
December 20th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Trade Jon Condo for Michael Irvin!
December 20th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
The Bungals should be pumped to beat the Dis-Chargers.
It’s going to be freezing cold in Cinncy this weekend and the Dis-Chargers do not like playing on the east coast in freezing weather.
Plus the Bungals will be pumped to beat these guys, since they beat them last year in SD.
The Bungals need to pound the rock with Benson and Scott all day long and the Bolts will quit.
December 20th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
561.Raider75 Says:
December 20th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Right now the Raiders should be 9-5 at worst.
No excuse for losing to Cards or Niners.
Wow. What could have been.
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That dreaded Card game which the Raiders didn’t want to win.
Ugh.
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