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Final score: Raiders 39, Broncos 23

By Jon Becker
Sunday, December 19th, 2010 at 4:30 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders kept their AFC West playoff hopes alive with a 39-23 win over Tim Tebow and the Broncos Sunday. Jerry McDonald lost his internet connection at the Coliseum, which is why he hasn’t posted an item himself. He’s on his way to the locker room for post-game interviews now, so look for his posts a bit later.

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453 Responses to “Final score: Raiders 39, Broncos 23”

  1. Smigg.Dirtee Says:

    RAIDERS Rush yds: 265

    Donks Rush yds: 106

    RAIDER tot yds: 503

  2. RaidingTexas Says:

    Cable lives another season.

  3. ArmChair GM Says:

    Go Raiiiiderrrrssss!!

    I hate Gus Johnson…

  4. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Gus couldn’t go without giving Tebow one last reach around could he?

  5. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    This defense would be a monster if it had some discipline. Once again, the only blemishes are damn big plays.

    Stop giving those up and this is a top 10 squad.

  6. maddenraiderfan Says:

    Wait, I thought everyone said we were going to lose like 10 mins into the game…

  7. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    NBC is talking about the snow job in New England.

  8. Smigg.Dirtee Says:

    Donks RB’s get only 30 yatds all game!

  9. YoungAmerican Says:

    Great job by this team of not letting early miscues get to them. Solid win.

  10. Thec07 Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    This defense would be a monster if it had some discipline. Once again, the only blemishes are damn big plays.

    Stop giving those up and this is a top 10 squad.

    ++++++++++++=

    We are a beter team when Quicksain is playing…He is a rookie, and has shown some signs of improvement..As he goes so does the dfense….

  11. Smigg.Dirtee Says:

    NO sacks for our O-line

    2 sacks and a saftey for the D-line and several TFL’s

  12. Thec07 Says:

    Good win for the NATION….

  13. beach Says:

    Hue Jackson gets a lot of credit this season. We now have an offense for the first time in 8 seasons. Hopefully, we can finish 9-7. I expect the Chiefs to win the division.

  14. PK28 Says:

    congrats to raider nation!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. JB Says:

    When NMiller plays we win. It’s that simple. LOL

  16. neilb Says:

    Play of the game.

    Stevie Brown stopping Nick Miller going after some payback after that late hit.

  17. CDERaider Says:

    Unlike the last 7 years – this is the kind of game we would have folded in the 2nd half. Not this year. They came out and dominated the 4th qtr when it mattered.

    McFadden MVP.

    Go Raiders!

  18. Thec07 Says:

    D line was in the backfield all day. Should have had 20 tfl’s..first hitter should be making the tackles…Good win though I will take it all day…

  19. olinesux Says:

    raaaaiiuuuuhhhhhduuuuhhhsssss…..

  20. JB Says:

    MHenderson did OK at RT. Move Walker into RG & then all we need to do is bring in a big center.

  21. neilb Says:

    Think I might be buying me a #20 jersey.

  22. 901Raiders Says:

    J. Ford. Raiders Rookie of the Year!!!!!!!!!!

  23. mikeschoice Says:

    jerry? get with the times ! youre always having internet problems and your’e a reporter?

  24. Raiders for life Says:

    16.neilb Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
    Play of the game.

    Stevie Brown stopping Nick Miller going after some payback after that late hit.

    #########

    I thought I was the only one who noticed that…Good call. I like Stevie.

  25. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Raiders covered the big point spread as well.

  26. RaiderDebo Says:

    Jmcclain Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    Sucks were gonna be undefeated in the division and not win it. Gosh those games we lost early just plain and simple suck. But man after last eight yrs I’ll take this season and build on it. Imagine how bad are o would be without ford, dmac, Reece, miller, bush, I could go on. Are recievers are fine every catch they make has to be almost spectacular. Campbell just isn’t that accurate and just throws a bad ball. Props to my man mcclain good game. Sucks TO is out for season thought they would have a shot. Nice win dmac ur a workhorse. Sweeeeeeet.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Benson came to life today though. They’ve got a shot.

  27. Thec07 Says:

    JB Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
    MHenderson did OK at RT. Move Walker into RG & then all we need to do is bring in a big center.

    ++++++++++++

    Bruce Campbell wil be our starting RG next year however, C should be a priority….

  28. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    T.O. is out next week against Chargers.

  29. Smigg.Dirtee Says:

    Campbell lost 1 yard on each of the last 3 plays! Fire him…lol

  30. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    It looks like Austin Collie won’t be playing next week.

  31. YoungAmerican Says:

    It still concerns me how average/below-average passers pick on Routt. But that’s what the draft and FA are for.

    This team is a few more pieces away from being a very, very dangerous team.

    Jacoby Ford is the real deal.

  32. alex7 Says:

    Debo, don’t go overboard on the Tebow bashing. He needs to learn from campbell? jason was 2-5 his rookie year and has only slightly improved his winning percentage since then :)

  33. neilb Says:

    24.Raiders for life Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    16.neilb Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
    Play of the game.

    Stevie Brown stopping Nick Miller going after some payback after that late hit.

    #########

    I thought I was the only one who noticed that…Good call. I like Stevie.

    —————————————————

    Maybe heads up play of the game would be better.

  34. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Seriously though. The Teabow lovefest has to end. Today was absolutely ridiculous. The guy had a decent game ..a great game running for a QB but an awful (and lucky at the same time) game passing as a QB. That won’t cut it in the NFL. He’s no Mike Vick …to darn slow. He can’t pass. He probably won’t last in the NFL.

    Just another glorified nobody who hasn’t done anything in the big leagues.

  35. edward teach Says:

    The Broncos couldn’t run the ball today because the Raiders showed no respect for their ability to throw it.

    Stack the box, play the run hard and make The Anointed One beat you with his arm. Pretty much everyone except Gus Johnson knew it would work.

  36. Thec07 Says:

    901Raiders Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    J. Ford. Raiders Rookie of the Year!!!!!!!!!!

    ++++++++++++++=

    Yep…Called that one long time ago….

    JFORD <——-Rookie Of The NATION….

  37. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    The best part about today’s win is that Norco Bob lost money betting against the Raiders. F.U. you loser.

  38. Smigg.Dirtee Says:

    27.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    JB Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
    MHenderson did OK at RT. Move Walker into RG & then all we need to do is bring in a big center.

    ++++++++++++

    Bruce Campbell wil be our starting RG next year however, C should be a priority….
    ***************************

    If the dude can not get on the fiels ALL season, he is no starter next season to bet on!! Draft O-line!

  39. CDERaider Says:

    Colts at Raiders. Flex game?

  40. olinesux Says:

    true jerry loses connection more than any other reporter…

  41. Smigg.Dirtee Says:

    Teabag 50% for 138yds

  42. edward teach Says:

    I would not be at all surprised to see Al make a run at Champ Bailey in the offseason. Shut down the other side and this defense is serious trouble for anybody.

  43. lefty12 Says:

    As much as big Langston is disliked on here,he is a road grader who does a good job run blocking.

  44. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bruce Campbell will be lucky to make the team next year.

    Starting week 1 is beyond logic.

  45. zopi Says:

    Sweet.
    Just focus on beating Manning, keep the pressure on, and run all over them.
    The defense needs to play more disciplined.
    Dolts and Chefs will choke.

  46. Raiders for life Says:

    Thanks for letting me hang out with all of you today. Gotta go now.

    RAIDERS!!!!!!!!

  47. Just Fire Baby Says:

    As much as big Langston is disliked on here,he is a road grader who does a good job run blocking.

    ****************************

    True that.

    Integral part of a top 3 NFL rushing attack.

  48. neilb Says:

    41.Smigg.Dirtee Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
    Teabag 50% for 138yds

    ————————————————

    That’s it? That’s all? You’d think he’d found a cure for cancer the way they were calling the game.

  49. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Supposedly Tebows Tears are the Cure for Cancer

  50. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # edward teach Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

    I would not be at all surprised to see Al make a run at Champ Bailey in the offseason. Shut down the other side and this defense is serious trouble for anybody.

    …………..

    LOL. Even with Huff at safety?

  51. Raider guy Says:

    This game did identify the coach next year at last: Hue Jackson.

  52. Thec07 Says:

    Smigg.Dirtee Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
    27.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    JB Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
    MHenderson did OK at RT. Move Walker into RG & then all we need to do is bring in a big center.

    ++++++++++++

    Bruce Campbell wil be our starting RG next year however, C should be a priority….
    ***************************

    If the dude can not get on the fiels ALL season, he is no starter next season to bet on!! Draft O-line!

    +++++++++++++

    Look at the Cable speak… BC will be starting for the at RG next year, and I will put money on it…
    We need to draft oline and dline for depth that is a given, also carlily is a cable guy, politics is politics….

  53. neilb Says:

    LOL!

  54. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raiders just hurt their draft status today. That’s all they accomplished.

  55. Thec07 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
    Bruce Campbell will be lucky to make the team next year.

    Starting week 1 is beyond logic.

    ++++++++++=

    No sucking tebows dic during a raider game is beyond logic…

  56. olinesux Says:

    i just wish walker was tougher…he seems to worry about little injuries.

  57. Thec07 Says:

    I told you dont blitz tbow…lol

  58. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I’t is time to celebrate not losing 10 games!!!

  59. Thec07 Says:

    Dont blitz a rookie QB who has how many starts….
    Thats some great logic….lol

  60. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    What Draft Status…We dont have a 1st and our 3rd round players and back are playin great for rookies

  61. neilb Says:

    We need to look at centre.Seeing Samson get pushed past Campbell sucked.

  62. big pep Says:

    didnt really think we would pull this off at halftime. but im glad we did win, and feel like next year is gonna better than this year. if hue can learn to stop calling stupid trick plays we can only get better. april we start by selecting big nasties on both sides and maybe a couple of d.bs. cause huff,routt, both suc.

  63. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raiders just moved from about number 10 to number 13 in next year’s draft with today’s win. Would have been better to lose.

  64. Thec07 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
    Bruce Campbell will be lucky to make the team next year.

    +++++++++++=

    Based on what tom cable or your analysis???

  65. Pretty Rick Says:

    Always good to win. Gota tough one next week though, can we actually sweep all of our division opponents?

  66. jmcclain Says:

    How to beat colts. Rush four all game have safetys sit back do not blitz manning he will
    kill you. They don’t run the ball well today was a fluke. Manning will throw the ball about 60 times. Rout and Johnson need to have games of there lives. It’s gonna be tough.

  67. lefty12 Says:

    Get used to it-the Raider coach next year is Tom Cable.

  68. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Huff is not a bad safety. He is a terrible CB though. Marshall needs to go.

  69. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # lefty12 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Get used to it-the Raider coach next year is Tom Cable.

    ………

    Only cause of lockout.

  70. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Huff is not a bad safety.

    ………….

    LOL

  71. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    There wont be a Lockout

  72. neilb Says:

    68.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    Huff is not a bad safety. He is a terrible CB though. Marshall needs to go.

    —————————————————-
    Wade Phillips is available.

  73. LT DAN Says:

    If huff can be signed at a reasonable price I would like to have him back

  74. Thec07 Says:

    Just fire baby, How about you pull up the stats on how tebow had a better qb rating than campbell….

  75. LT DAN Says:

    I love how well the wr block downfield a big part of the run game doing so well

  76. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    There wont be a Lockout

    ………..

    Really? The owners are ready to show the books?

  77. neilb Says:

    The only stat that matters is who won.

  78. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Based on what tom cable or your analysis???

    ****************************

    Based on a guy going from inactive to starter in 7 months.

  79. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # LT DAN Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    If huff can be signed at a reasonable price I would like to have him back

    ………..

    Because losing Al’s way is better than winning anyone else’s way.

  80. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Just fire baby, How about you pull up the stats on how tebow had a better qb rating than campbell….

    ****************************

    I am a stats guy, never shy away from it.

    That’s why I took so much heat for my love of Tommy Kelly all offseason.

  81. Thec07 Says:

    neilb Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
    The only stat that matters is who won.

    ++++++++++++

    True however we have folks like just fire baby that is a tbow worshipper admittedly so… Wonder what he thinks about the stats…

  82. YoungAmerican Says:

    If the Raiders at least find another RG, CB, and add some more depth along their defensive front seven, next season they’ll be in position to expand upon this season’s successes.

  83. Thec07 Says:

    Right on que…lol

  84. LT DAN Says:

    Need a qb I dont think campbell is the solution

  85. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
    Bruce Campbell will be lucky to make the team next year.

    Starting week 1 is beyond logic.

    ***********************

    Not according to Cable

  86. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Campbell and Tebow are both supported for all of the wrong reasons.

  87. Thec07 Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    If the Raiders at least find another RG, CB, and add some more depth along their defensive front seven, next season they’ll be in position to expand upon this season’s successes
    ++++++++++

    Need depth along the oline…First priority…

  88. RaiderDebo Says:

    Alex7 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
    Debo, don’t go overboard on the Tebow bashing. He needs to learn from campbell? jason was 2-5 his rookie year and has only slightly improved his winning percentage since then
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Honestly, did you see an NFL QB out there when he was playing today? I can’t see the guy being a legit starter. He’s strong as a bull though. FB or TE is in his future.

  89. raidermarty Says:

    Can’t wait to see tom jackson choke as he has to comment on this game on espn.
    always enjoy that!

  90. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The worshiping of Tebow and worshiping of Campbell are opposite sides of the same coin. It’s easy to figure out for someone like me who thinks they both suck. I can see right through the supporters of both of them. They think their agendas aren’t obvious, but they are. Both sides.

  91. Thec07 Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
    Bruce Campbell will be lucky to make the team next year.

    Starting week 1 is beyond logic.

    ***********************

    Not according to Cable

    +++++++++

    Exactly….

  92. YoungAmerican Says:

    Need depth along the oline…First priority…

    ———–

    Definitely agree, but I hope they turn to FA rather than the draft. Not a very deep draft class for offensive linemen at all.

  93. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hey I hope Bruce Campbell is ready to start and dominate next season as a RG. I will be happy to be wrong on that one.

    But the guy is in the mix with the Loper’s and Jeremy Ware’s of the world. Inactive and on the outside looking in.

    No doubt this team will not pass on a LEGIT guard prospect because of Bruce Campbell in the draft.

  94. BumpNRun Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    Raiders just hurt their draft status today. That’s all they accomplished.

    **************************************************************************************

    Raiders hurt New England’s draft status today. That’s what they accomplished.

  95. SharkCatcher Says:

    we have like 100 general managers in here…..I’m just happy when the team wins.. I can now have a great sunday and enjoy the nfl Blitz on espn

  96. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    YoungAmerican Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    If the Raiders at least find another RG, CB, and add some more depth along their defensive front seven, next season they’ll be in position to expand upon this season’s successes
    ++++++++++

    Need depth along the oline…First priority…
    ————————
    How about someone who can catch the ball? Campbell seriously needs a possession receiver.

  97. olinesux Says:

    raidermarty thats what im waiting for….

  98. RaidingTexas Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:

    Seriously though. The Teabow lovefest has to end. Today was absolutely ridiculous. The guy had a decent game ..a great game running for a QB
    —————————-

    It wasn’t even all that great. When you watch the highlights or replay, watch that “Denver record 40 yard QB touchdown run”. HUGE uncalled holding penalty. It was in plain sight of the camera. I guess not the refs, though. The play should have been nullified.

  99. RaidersMom Says:

    OMG. Now the NFLNetwork is blowing TBOWLEGS. An “electrifying game”? Really?

  100. J Hill Says:

    I like my team.

    Hue’s offense put up over 500 yds today? It sure didn’t “feel” like it, lol.

    Another solid draft and a few FA pickups, and I think we’ll be right there fighting for the division week in and week out.

  101. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Even if they traded the first round pick, you still want a high second and third. Higher is better.

    Bottom line: When your season is over, there’s no point in trying to win.

  102. Thec07 Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
    Based on what tom cable or your analysis???

    ****************************

    Based on a guy going from inactive to starter in 7 months.

    +++++++++++

    So if they didnt need him they would cut him right, why keep him on the 53 man, if as you say it he wont be back???? Another great logical observation on your part….lol

  103. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If you can’t figure out why the NFL is blowing Tebow, do a little research on the NFL’s consumer base and what their politics are.

  104. olinesux Says:

    rmr is hurt cuz raiders won….

  105. Thec07 Says:

    RaidersMom Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
    OMG. Now the NFLNetwork is blowing TBOWLEGS. An “electrifying game”? Really?

    +++++++++++++==

    Same as Just fire Baby….lol

  106. RaidingTexas Says:

    Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    How about someone who can catch the ball? Campbell seriously needs a possession receiver.
    ———————-

    Yep. I said it earlier. The difference between Campbell’s and Tebow’s passer ratings today was BRANDON FKN LLOYD! Imagine if we had him.

  107. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Gawd ..the media is ridiculous …its not The Raiders Win vs Broncos …its Tim Teabow got his frist start and it was “electrifying”

    LOL ..ridiculous!

    When is 8 for 16 electifying????

    (esp when it should have been like 1-2 pics with that makin it 7 or 6 for 16)

  108. lefty12 Says:

    Watching Tebow today was like watching Vick try to be a QB 7 years ago-all legs-lousy passing.
    LOL-Rich Eisen on NFLN just said Tebow’s 1st start today was electrifying.

  109. RaiderTW Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    Raiders just hurt their draft status today. That’s all they accomplished
    Raiders just hurt their draft status today. That’s all they accomplished.
    Raiders just moved from about number 10 to number 13 in next year’s draft with today’s win. Would have been better to lose.
    ————-
    You really AREN’T a Raider fan are you, you puke!

  110. alex7 Says:

    Huff is a big upgrade over what we’ve had here (Anthony dorsett, Gibson, Stuart) and should be kept.

    Don’t assume it can’t get worse.

    Playing deep safety in man to man defense 90% of the time is no picnic.

  111. Thec07 Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    Watching Tebow today was like watching Vick try to be a QB 7 years ago-all legs-lousy passing.
    LOL-Rich Eisen on NFLN just said Tebow’s 1st start today was electrifying.

    +++++++++++++

    Yeah and he survived the Blitz…lol

  112. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:00 pm

    RaidersMom Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
    OMG. Now the NFLNetwork is blowing TBOWLEGS. An “electrifying game”? Really?

    +++++++++++++==

    Same as Just fire Baby….lol

    ………..

    And in your case with Campbell.

  113. CDERaider Says:

    We can beat the Colts. Their run D is bad and the weather will be nasty again. We will need to dominate time of possession and get some points on Special Teams and hope the Titans and Bengals play well. This time next week we could be in the driver seat for the division. When is the last time fans could talk about that this time of year?

    Go Raiders!

  114. RaidingTexas Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If you can’t figure out why the NFL is blowing Tebow, do a little research on the NFL’s consumer base and what their politics are
    ————————-

    I know plenty of pro-choice or indifferent on the subject NFL fans. But you are partly correct. Lightning rods bring attention. Attention brings marketing. Marketing brings money.

  115. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, Alex, so Huff is better than Derrick Gibson. Roger that. Now do you think we can get a real NFL FS?

  116. RaiderDebo Says:

    Anybody see Big Ben come up short in the last two minutes? They oughtta cut him and sign Carson Palmer or Ryan Fitzpatrick next year. LMfAO!!

  117. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    beach Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
    Hue Jackson gets a lot of credit this season. We now have an offense for the first time in 8 seasons. Hopefully, we can finish 9-7. I expect the Chiefs to win the division.

    ======================================================

    A lot of the play calling was way too conservative.

  118. Just Fire Baby Says:

    People still amazed at the Tebow love.

    How many rookie QB’s posted a 100+ QB rating in their first NFL start?

    I will bet we will stats all this week that this was one of the best rookie first game starts in the history of the game.

    Right up there with Bruce Gradkowski’s first NFL start, lol.

  119. Thec07 Says:

    Raiders one was a great game…Hopefully we can get to at least 8-8… 9-7 would be great…

  120. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raiding Texas, plenty doesn’t mean anything. It’s about the majority of the consumer base. It’s obvious where they stand, and in all sports. Even basketball. Look at the lower deck of any NBA game and you don’t see much diversity.

  121. RaidingTexas Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Look at the lower deck of any NBA game and you don’t see much diversity.

    ———————

    Well that’s a money thing. LOL

  122. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    Good win for the NATION….

    =======================================================

    It sure was Thec although it didn’t look too good in the first half with Campbell getting 58 yards passing and two interceptions.

  123. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raiders final record: 7-9. They just beat Denver. It’s party time this week. Indy, on the other hand, is training like Clubber Lang to save their dynasty. Probably starting tomorrow. It’s going to be a siesta in Alameda this week, and you know it. As far as they’re concerned, they just won the SB.

  124. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
    People still amazed at the Tebow love.

    How many rookie QB’s posted a 100+ QB rating in their first NFL start?

    I will bet we will stats all this week that this was one of the best rookie first game starts in the history of the game.

    Right up there with Bruce Gradkowski’s first NFL start, lol.

    ******************************

    Seriously bro…do you really think the was THAT good???? Com’on! Anybody looking at this thing objectively can see that he’s not even decent

    The Raiders should have killed that guy today. Standford missed an INT right between his hands and his WR got lucky under it and other fortunate things happened for him. The guy is garbage.

  125. RaiderDebo Says:

    Lefty12 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    Watching Tebow today was like watching Vick try to be a QB 7 years ago-all legs-lousy passing.
    LOL-Rich Eisen on NFLN just said Tebow’s 1st start today was electrifying.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    If Tebow turns out to be half as good as Vick 7 years ago, I’ll be very surprised.

  126. RaidingTexas Says:

    But I don’t disagree with the “majority” argument. The thing is, the other side would not get all worked up about an outspoken pro-choice guy. Those people know there are more important things in life than sports figures.

  127. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # RaidingTexas Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Look at the lower deck of any NBA game and you don’t see much diversity.

    ———————

    Well that’s a money thing. LOL

    ………….

    And who has the money?

  128. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Orton scored 14 points at home against us, and threw a pick 6 and had two turnovers.

    Tebow scored 23 against us on the road, and had zero turnovers.

    Tebow kept this game close. Orton does not even come close to converting a 3rd and 24, better yet score.

    We better shore this up in the years ahead.

  129. SnB Production Says:

    42.edward teach Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
    I would not be at all surprised to see Al make a run at Champ Bailey in the offseason. Shut down the other side and this defense is serious trouble for anybody.

    =======================================================
    This would be the right idea. Get Champ a lucrative short-term deal.

    The CB position is a weak link on this defense…which is surprising given the investments over the years. But with Nnamdi on one side…the other guy is going to get picked on…

    Routt has not gotten the job done and he also has missed some big tackles.

    See Nnamdi take down Tebow…then replay Routt blowing the tackle that led to a 70 yard run last week.

    Cornerback is priority. Free agency or use that 2nd round pick

  130. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Anyway… this defense needs to slap themselves ..specifically the secondary

  131. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
    People still amazed at the Tebow love.

    How many rookie QB’s posted a 100+ QB rating in their first NFL start?

    =======================================================

    Tebow played really well in his first game.

  132. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # RaidingTexas Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    The thing is, the other side would not get all worked up about an outspoken pro-choice guy. Those people know there are more important things in life than sports figures.

    ………..

    You must live in Nepal. You haven’t been to America in the past decade, wherever you live.

  133. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    Raiders final record: 7-9. They just beat Denver. It’s party time this week. Indy, on the other hand, is training like Clubber Lang to save their dynasty. Probably starting tomorrow. It’s going to be a siesta in Alameda this week, and you know it. As far as they’re concerned, they just won the SB.
    ——————–
    If the Raiders were playing the Browns, I would say you are right. But, they will probably be up for Peyton Manning.

  134. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    they will probably be up for Peyton Manning.

    ………..

    Raiders are taking the week off. They just beat Denver. You know how it is with the Raiders.

  135. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Orton is much better than Tebow. I hope he starts against the Charges.

  136. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:08 pm
    Orton scored 14 points at home against us, and threw a pick 6 and had two turnovers.

    Tebow scored 23 against us on the road, and had zero turnovers.

    Tebow kept this game close. Orton does not even come close to converting a 3rd and 24, better yet score.

    We better shore this up in the years ahead.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    “Tim Teabow kept the game close” ???? WHAT ARE YOU INSANE MAN!!!!

    What the hell game were you watching???? Our turnovers kept the damn game close! And that darn secondary playing like jackazzes

  137. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Don’t really like anyone wearing #12 but I have to admit that Jacoby Ford wears it well.

  138. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brady put on a little weight. Maybe he’s pregnant.

  139. J Hill Says:

    Cornerback is priority. Free agency or use that 2nd round pick

    —————————————————–

    I’d have to BEG for a free agent. We have 2 youngsters in McFadden and Ware already. I agree with YA that William Joseph should be at the top of our list. If Champ would come here, that would be a nice option too.

  140. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Had floor Seats for the Kings Vs. Wizards game and there was alot of diversity then….

  141. Just Fire Baby Says:

    “Tim Teabow kept the game close” ???? WHAT ARE YOU INSANE MAN!!!!

    ******************************

    He kept it a lot closer than Orton, when Tebow scored as many points in 5 minutes as Orton did in a whole game against us.

    You guys are so biased against Tebow it is silly. I honestly wouldn’t mind if he gets shot in the head tomorrow, I couldn’t care less.

    But I live in a stats based world. He was light years better against us than Orton was, in his first career start on the road.

    If you don’t think we have to worry about him in the future you are crazy.

  142. neilb Says:

    Off to watch the PATS/PACK game.

    Enjoy the victory.

  143. LT DAN Says:

    How much longer does c wood have left on his contract he would be a good pick up at db

  144. jmcclain Says:

    98 points against the donkeys this yr lol. Ford is a stud and yes raider fans he is ours he belongs to the raiders. Ford gives me goosebumps watchin him play. Dmac and ford property of the Oakland raiders. How can ya not have a future with that. Two of the biggest pimps in the league. Can I get an AMEN

  145. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Teabow kept the game close ..lol …that had to be a joke.

    Anyone watching this game can see that the Broncos were not even in the same league as the Raiders. They were manhandled all over the place. If the Raiders didn’t turn the darn ball over it would’ve been move like 38-10.

  146. BumpNRun Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    Bottom line: When your season is over, there’s no point in trying to win.

    **************************************************************************************

    Bottom line: when contrarianism is your only contribution, MR, you become a parody of the man you pretend to hate.

  147. J Hill Says:

    AMEN!

  148. SnB Production Says:

    Jhill,

    I see the 2 youngsters…but are they up for the challenge? McFadden looked incompetent against the Steelres and Dolphins….

    Joseph or Champ would be great options too. Raiders have to proactively fill that role. Routt and CJ got exposed this year…and having to play Huff or role with that “5 safety set” is not a good option

  149. YoungAmerican Says:

    The Raiders should either pick up FA CB Jonathan Joseph from the Bengals, or offer Champ Bailey a 2-year deal with incentives. Or use the 2nd round pick in the event that a CB capable of contributing right away falls in their lap.

  150. LT DAN Says:

    Amen

  151. YoungAmerican Says:

    I like CB Davon House from New Mexico State. Not sure who else would be available to the Raiders.

  152. J Hill Says:

    All I have to say about that stellar performance by Tim Tebow is I look forward to playing him twice next year.

  153. SnB Production Says:

    It makes me ill that this team is undefeated in division and still will be on the outside looking in.

    Damn

  154. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Al Davis!
    Can I get Ryan Mallet for Christmas/Easter?!

  155. J Hill Says:

    SnB,

    It was basically McFadden’s first game of the year. I think he and Ware will make fine 3rd and 4th CBs next year a year into it.

    Totally on board with Joseph or Bailey as a FA.

  156. J Hill Says:

    Huff was much better at CB today. I’d argue he’s the 2nd best CB on the team.

  157. LT DAN Says:

    Lamar Houston is looking pretty good for a rookie aswell

  158. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    England you really want Mallet.

  159. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Mallet is Phillip Rivers with no Accuracy

  160. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    SnB Production Says:
    December 19th,

    McFadden looked incompetent against the Steelres and Dolphins….

    =====================================================
    Come on! That was the Raiders period!

  161. J Hill Says:

    It makes me ill that this team is undefeated in division and still will be on the outside looking in.

    Damn

    ——————————————————

    Az, Houston, and Jacksonville should have all been wins.

  162. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Mallet is the next Dan McGwire.

  163. TerrapinRaider Says:

    DMC is just one helluva playa

    If he can run like this each year, we have a HOF back. Its unreal what he’s doing out there.

  164. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I believe If we drafta qb we need some1 a lil more mobile than Mallet

  165. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    England you really want Mallet.

    ======================================================

    Well I’d rather have Luck-especially if he comes with Harbough.
    But yes, I’d like Mallet: 6ft 7ins with a rocket arm-even if the trajectory is sometimes off-just Al’s kind of quarterback.

  166. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Had floor Seats for the Kings Vs. Wizards game and there was alot of diversity then….

    …………..

    Sure. All kinds of rich white people in different shapes and colors.

  167. Raider J Says:

    It feels good to have the Raiders playing meaningful ball in Dec.
    Must run the clock & score TDs then hit Payton next week.

    GO TEN & CIN week 16!

  168. bcz24 Says:

    I know we won today but that big play thing HAS to be addressed! We absolutely have to get an upgrade for Groves. Good win though. I still hate that we let Teblows look like a competent qb

  169. lefty12 Says:

    Is Routt another Nnamdi-no,a Bailey-no,a Revis-no.Yet when Nnamdi goes out and teams target the other CBs we have they prove to be worse than Routt.It would be great to get another all-pro CB.But saying Routt should go-be careful what you wish for,he isn’t ‘that’ bad-or as I should say,we could do worsejust watch CJ or 1 of the rookies,or a lot of other teams CBs.

  170. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    You just described the white version of Jamarcus Russell….. The kid isnt Accurate and has a terrible attitude

  171. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # BumpNRun Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Bottom line: when contrarianism is your only contribution, MR, you become a parody of the man you pretend to hate.

    …………

    ???

  172. J Hill Says:

    We don’t need to draft a QB.

    Gardowski and Frye will be back next year.

  173. Thec07 Says:

    tebow <——- he and his worshippers wish he was mike vick…

  174. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Mr:

    You must be the only one posting here who goes to a game looking for diversity.
    The rest of us just go for the game.

  175. bcz24 Says:

    Oh and its total BS that they keep giving all the goaline carries to Bush. I hate that.

  176. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    Mr:

    You must be the only one posting here who goes to a game looking for diversity.
    The rest of us just go for the game.

    ……………..

    Obviously.

  177. big pep Says:

    T.T. is a perfect example of what the n.f.l. wants out of there players, good people on and off the field. i doubt that he will go out and rape, kill dogs, bar fights, d.w.i., or failing drug test. the dude is a gamer and a good person. i for one hope he makes it just not with the broncos.

  178. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    RMR U sound slow on that 1….. I was sitting next to 3 egyptian guys who were big John Wall fans and a couple Black Dudes

  179. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Thec, Tebow is no Mike Vick, and never will be. But he’s certainly on Campbell’s level. Probably better, considering how long Campbell’s been in the league and that this is Tebow’s first year.

  180. LT DAN Says:

    If we had a little better pass rush we would make rout look better

  181. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Thats the problem Lefty12 ..they don’t watch other teams play

    Look no further than the great Ravens defense. Their achilles heel are their corners and no other the Fabian Washington is their best player lol. Who would want to replace Routt with 20yds off the ball Fabes? LOL

  182. bcz24 Says:

    Routt has the lowest completion percentage of all CBs with more the 25% of the teams snaps in the NFL… we could do much worse, and he makes 13 million less than Nnamdi.

  183. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Pep out of all the QB’s I can see Tebow doing all of those things..

  184. BumpNRun Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    # BumpNRun Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Bottom line: when contrarianism is your only contribution, MR, you become a parody of the man you pretend to hate.

    …………

    ???

    *********

    You’re just now responding? Did you have to consult the dictionary? What don’t you understand? You’re a poor imitation of Al Davis at his worst: contrarian for the sake of contrarian.

  185. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    England you really want Mallet.

    =====================================================
    Jamarcus Russell?
    I thought Jerry wouldn’t allow us to swear in here any more?

  186. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I did look forward to playing Kyle Orton twice a year.

    I do not look forward to playing Tebow twice a year, but if our O-line opens up holes for 250 yards rushing a game it won’t matter.

  187. Guy Says:

    Lloyd gave Routt fits, but I think Routt is decent – good when he plays #2 receivers. He really should have picked that Lloyd TD though.

  188. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    RMR U sound slow on that 1….. I was sitting next to 3 egyptian guys who were big John Wall fans and a couple Black Dudes

    …………..

    Wow. 3 Egyptian guys, a couple of black guys, and 24,995 white people. We’ve come a long way, haven’t we? BTW, just so you know, the Egyptian guys are white too.

  189. olinesux Says:

    rich eisen sounds so stupid trying to talk street…just as dan patrick does.

  190. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # BumpNRun Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    Did you have to consult the dictionary?

    …….

    Yes, I did. Still can’t find “contrarianism”. Get back to me when you make some sense.

  191. LT DAN Says:

    Congrats on the win I am out

  192. J Hill Says:

    Routt is not as good as Bailey or Joseph and will want as much if not more $. If we can’t get anyone else, sure bring him back.

  193. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Sure didnt look white….. We werent talking about people in the arena…… We were talkin about lower level seats…..

  194. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    I dont even know why you come to this Blog….Ur the biggest hater I know…

  195. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Sure didnt look white….

    …………

    What is that supposed to mean?

  196. Thec07 Says:

    the Egyptian guys are white too.

    +++++++

    Stupidest post of the day/night…

  197. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    I dont even know why you come to this Blog….Ur the biggest hater I know…

    ……….

    I’m a fan of Jerry McDonald.

  198. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    They didnt look like a white guy…… Dont come at me crazy

  199. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Egyptians aren’t white, Thec?

  200. RaiderDebo Says:

    I hope and pray Tebow stays the starter at QB. This could be the beginning of one of those seven-year winning streaks against the Donks like SD had against us. Pretty sure it won’t happen though. Can’t see an incoming coach look at today’s film and think he’s the answer. Great guy, but not an NFL QB.

  201. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    U’ve downtalked Jerry Mcdonald several times..

  202. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What does a white guy look like, Purple Drank?

  203. Raider E Says:

    RMR is more mad that his Steelers lost. How was the greastest game of the year anyway? Why dont you take your phony, imposter, weak booty to the steel city gazette page Playboy :)

  204. BumpNRun Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
    # BumpNRun Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

    Did you have to consult the dictionary?

    …….

    Yes, I did. Still can’t find “contrarianism”. Get back to me when you make some sense.

    ******
    Let me help you:
    Definition of CONTRARIAN

    a person who takes a contrary position or attitude; specifically : an investor who buys shares of stock when most others are selling and sells when others are buying
    — contrarian adjective
    — con·trar·i·an·ism noun

  205. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

    U’ve downtalked Jerry Mcdonald several times..

    ………..

    When?

  206. lefty12 Says:

    194-Well then why do you guys keep answering him?He throws out the bait and you constantly bite.

  207. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    Egyptians aren’t white, Thec?

    +++++++++++
    Eygptians are not white they are from the hametic line… Go read ….

  208. TerrapinRaider Says:

    J Hill Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:33 pm
    Routt is not as good as Bailey or Joseph and will want as much if not more $. If we can’t get anyone else, sure bring him back.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    You know JHill …at face you could be right but I think you have to be careful with these kind of asessments.

    You could have assumed the same thing about DHall but you just didn’t know until he played next to the great one: Nnamdi A.

    You see what I’m saying.

  209. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BumpNRun, so, tell me, where I have I brought up any stocks, or tried to dissuade anyone from purchasing a stock? You’re not making any sense with this whole “contrarian” thing.

  210. Just Fire Baby Says:

    The same people who dismissed Tebow are the same people designing plays that had us losing at halftime.

    Call me crazy but I would be rather winning at halftime, and once we took Tebow serioulsy, we won the game.

    He will improve, and we will have to as well.

    And get Darren more than 20 touches.

  211. Raider E Says:

    RMR likes to complain and whine. I swear he has no marbles.

  212. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raider E Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    RMR is more mad that his Steelers lost.

    ……………

    I’M A STEELER FAN NOW!!

    YESTERDAY I WAS A BRONCO FAN.

    DAY BEFORE THAT A CHARGER FAN.

    DAY BEFORE THAT A NINER FAN.

    2 YEARS AGO, I WAS A BUCS FAN.

    lol!

  213. J Hill Says:

    Some folks are suggesting we need a speed edge rusher.

    Which one of our DEs would that guy replace?

  214. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:37 pm

    Eygptians are not white they are from the hametic line… Go read …

    …………

    You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Did you read that in some book they sell at the liquor store, next to the porno mags?

  215. Raider E Says:

    Only reason Broncos had any points were due to the turnovers and poor kickoffs and coverage. Any fool could see that Fire? You sound like RMR.,

  216. ArmChair GM Says:

    # BumpNRun Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    Bottom line: when contrarianism is your only contribution, MR, you become a parody of the man you pretend to hate.
    _______________________________________________________

    This was obviously over RMR’s head… He didn’t graduate from middle school…Sacramento Unified School District has failed him.

  217. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Raider E Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

    RMR likes to complain and whine. I swear he has no marbles.

    …………….

    I just tell it like it is. Some people can’t deal with it.

  218. lefty12 Says:

    He wouldn’t have to replace anyone,he could be another piece to the puzzle.You can’t have too much talent,can you?

  219. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How many QB’s convert 3rd and 24’s into TD’s Raider E?

    Get a clue, that was riduculous on our D’s part, and we need to fix that next season.

  220. big pep Says:

    SnB Production Says:
    December 19th,

    McFadden looked incompetent against the Steelres and Dolphins
    —————————————————–
    anybody who thinks that its mcfaddens fault is got to be kidding. the last 2 years was all him tripping on the white lines and that other grass that pops out of the ground and trips you, fauling when being touched on the arm.but not this year, if he doesnt go for a 100 every game againts any team its the o-lines fault. like i said big nasties in next years draft.

  221. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    School district’s don’t fail people. Parents do. And, my parents didn’t fail me at all. I’m one of the smartest people in here, all of you know that. BTW, look up “REALIST” in the dictionary, you’ll see a photo of me. For another picture of me, look up “PIMP”. :)

  222. Thec07 Says:

    You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Did you read that in some book they sell at the liquor store, next to the porno mags?

    ++++++++++++

    ROFLMAO….

  223. Raider E Says:

    I certainly wouldnt doubt it RMR. I know you were here representing the Pittsburgh game in HD. Then immediately after Big Ben chokes you come on here whining about the Pats getting a lower first rounder cause the Raiders won. WTF is really going on dum dum????

  224. Guy Says:

    I dont know much about Joseph, but I know Bailey can play man. I read somewhere that he would play FS (Woodson) if his corner skills diminished

  225. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raider E, what team will I be a fan of tomorrow, when you realize you muffed on your assumption that I’m a Steeler fan?

  226. J Hill Says:

    I look at Routt the same way I look at Cable. Their contracts are up. I’m taking applications for the OPEN job, including their applications.

  227. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
    Thec, Tebow is no Mike Vick, and never will be. But he’s certainly on Campbell’s level. Probably better, considering how long Campbell’s been in the league and that this is Tebow’s first year.

    =======================================================

    “Tebow is no Mike Vick..”
    No. He doesn’t like to choke multiple dogs to death because they won’t fight.

    Tebow is probably better than Campbell but then Campbell is just average and everything that Washington said about him is pretty much true so far.

    Seems to me that we’re going to learn how to hate Tebow in the future.

  228. RaidingTexas Says:

    SnB Production Says:

    It makes me ill that this team is undefeated in division and still will be on the outside looking in.

    ——————-

    As one distinction falls: Only team to ever have seven straight double-digit loss seasons.

    Another is born: Only team to ever sweep its division and not make the playoffs.

    Only the Raiders can pull off such awesome feats.

  229. Just Fire Baby Says:

    It took Jamarcus Russell 5 starts to post a 100+ QB rating in a start.

    It tooke Tebow one start.

    Either it is our D(fine just say it) or Tebow is a better prospect than Russell.

  230. BumpNRun Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
    BumpNRun, so, tell me, where I have I brought up any stocks, or tried to dissuade anyone from purchasing a stock? You’re not making any sense with this whole “contrarian” thing.
    ****************
    That’s called an example. Examples are used in many dictionaries to illustrate the meaning of a word.

    You’re not making sense with the “contrarian” thing. I’m merely noting the fact.

  231. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, Raider E, there are several people in here who know I’m not a Steeler fan. They’ve seen me bash the Steelers, several times over. So, when your whole assumption is thoroughly rebuked and shoved right back up your back side, what team will you accuse me of being a fan of next? Will this be like a wheel of fortune thing? Every day you spin the wheel to figure out what team I’m a fan of? Or will you ever just face the fact that a growing number of Raider fans are fed up with Al Davis and his management and want him gone? How much longer are you willing to ruin your credibility?

  232. YoungAmerican Says:

    Jonathan Joseph is apparently a very strong corner in man coverage.

  233. Thec07 Says:

    Raider 1 – Tebow 0

  234. Raider E Says:

    How many QB’s convert 3rd and 24’s into TD’s Raider E?

    Get a clue, that was riduculous on our D’s part, and we need to fix that next season.

    ———

    Was that the Lloyd catch, which was a fluke btw, or the QB draw? Either way, I take it back. The broncos would have had 7 points. Sorry about that Fire :(

  235. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    No. He doesn’t like to choke multiple dogs to death because they won’t fight.

    ……….

    Vick never choked a dog in his life. It’s obvious why you hate on Vick, EnglandRaider.

  236. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    We’ve all seen you bash the Steelers??????

    No We’ve all seen you bash the Raiders!!!!

  237. RaidingTexas Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:

    And get Darren more than 20 touches.
    ————————-

    If he hadn’t been “hurt” and getting his shoulder looked at, he might have gotten that 20.

  238. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # BumpNRun Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    That’s called an example. Examples are used in many dictionaries to illustrate the meaning of a word.

    You’re not making sense with the “contrarian” thing. I’m merely noting the fact.

    ……….

    Are you merely noting the fact? LOL. Note this fact: YOU’RE A GEEK!

  239. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m merely noting the fact…

    jejejeje

  240. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
    # PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:29 pm

    RMR U sound slow on that 1….. I was sitting next to 3 egyptian guys who were big John Wall fans and a couple Black Dudes

    …………..

    Wow. 3 Egyptian guys, a couple of black guys, and 24,995 white people. We’ve come a long way, haven’t we? BTW, just so you know, the Egyptian guys are white too.

    +++++++++++++++

    please prove to me that eyqptians were/are white.

  241. olinesux Says:

    i think it was our dbs that gsve tebow that rating, either way tebow is 0-1 starting for the donks….

  242. big pep Says:

    Tebow doesnt drink purple stuff, that alone will make him better than that fat assss J.R. plus T.T. momma wasnt running around demanding schyt when T.T. was drafted. that said i hate T.T.

  243. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    A gutsy grity tough blue collar win for jc. Struggles early shakes off to blow it open in the 4th.

    Campbell haters consider yourselves OWNED!

  244. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Purple, if you want to play this game too, be my guest. How many teams have you guys accused me of being a fan of, only to find out I’m not a fan of that team when I bash them? Because I bash everyone who deserves to be bashed. I protect no one and keep it real, ALWAYS. Truth is, I’m a Raider fan. I’m just realistic about this team. But go ahead. Today it’s the steelers. Tomorrow the Chargers. The next day the Chiefs…it’s like wheel of fortune. More like, wheel of desperation. You just can’t face the fact that a Raider fan can be critical of the team’s management.

  245. Raider E Says:

    OK RMR, I will stand behind my thought that you dont like anything, any team, or anyone enough to be called a fan. You are overly critical and probably could use a deep breath and a little perspective. This is merely for entertainment purposes. It is not yours and you shouldn’t have so much tied to it silly :)

  246. rAiDeR_DyNaStY Says:

    Real madden raider why are you a poser ? Who’s your fav team ? R u a chiefs fan

  247. Guy Says:

    how much crap would you guys have given Campbell if he threw that almost pick Brady just threw?

  248. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Com’on Just Fire,

    Get off the guy’s jock will ya?

    Anybody can see the guy cannot pass the rock. He was throwing ducks out there and getting lucky. That team was no match for the Raiders and only stayed in because of our turnovers, 14pts off our turnovers. Without that you’re talking another blowout …to the tune of 40+ vs 10

  249. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Thec, you’re disqualified for this discussion. You’re obviously quoting sources from books purchased at liquor stores, right next to the gang banger novels and porn mags.

  250. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Finally back pedaling, Raider E? Good boy. Because I’m no Steeler fan.

  251. rAiDeR_DyNaStY Says:

    Obviously because no real fan of the game would root for there team to lose like you do. Your a poser

  252. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
    Thec, you’re disqualified for this discussion. You’re obviously quoting sources from books purchased at liquor stores, right next to the gang banger novels and porn mags.

    +++++++++++++
    You still need to explain to me how the eqyptians were/are white??? Based on what???

    I know you cant answer because you dont know….

    Admit it and I will move on…

    BTW i dont drink smoke or do porn…. Next

  253. Raider E Says:

    The point is tour not a Raider fan dum dum….

  254. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Tebow and Campbell both suck, and are both supported by people with agendas having nothing to do with sports. Anyone with a brain can see right through it.

  255. Raider E Says:

    *your

  256. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
    Thec, Tebow is no Mike Vick, and never will be. But he’s certainly on Campbell’s level. Probably better, considering how long Campbell’s been in the league and that this is Tebow’s first year.

    ======================================================

    Well, I’m certainly a dog lover if that is what your undeveloped and scrambled brain is trying to say.
    As a football player, Vick is really good although I’m not big on a QB who counts on scrambling.

  257. YoungAmerican Says:

    Why do you guys constantly feed the troll?

  258. olinesux Says:

    rmr is an established whiner fan…

  259. armond Says:

    213.J Hill Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
    Some folks are suggesting we need a speed edge rusher.

    Which one of our DEs would that guy replace?

    ——————————————————-
    we need a speed rusher cuz we also dont have depth at de. can never have 2 many pass rushers and what if he is actually better than what we have? we dont come off the edge fast enuff. ive been sayin this for years now. imagine having a guy like trent cole now that we have seymour and kelly playin the way he has. we are getting good up the middle but now we need some speed outside on defense. same goes for lb. we will stop giving up these big runs when we get some guys on the edges in the front 7 who can chase down the ball carrier. we definately need a play maker in the 2ndary. a go to wr will help campbell a ton. bowe makes cassel look respectable. if we cant get jax then we should go after whosyamomma.

  260. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The point is, you said I was a Steeler fan. Now you’re back pedaling because you know you might have over shot. Who’s the dum dum? Stop sticking your foot in your mouth, Raider E.

  261. RaidingTexas Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:

    How many QB’s convert 3rd and 24’s into TD’s Raider E?
    ————————-

    I guess as many QBs that have their TE holding your safety during the run:

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010121912/2010/REG15/broncos@raiders/recap/quick-take?module=HP_headlines

    Daniel Graham (#89) makes a key hold on Mike Mitchell (#34) to spring that long Tebow TD run. HE HOLDS THE FRONT OF HIS JERSEY!!!!! Mitchell at least has a chance to make the tackle if not for that holding. It’s right there in plain daylight. Just a non-call by the refs.

    This game didn’t need to be even as close as it was.

  262. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Com’on Just Fire,

    Get off the guy’s jock will ya?

    *************************

    Not on his jock, again I hope he fails miserably.

    Just realistic. 100+ QB rating with a 70 yards rushing is something we will have to figure out in years ahead.

  263. big pep Says:

    j.c. is not the solution at q.b. for the future of the raiders. draft big nasties next year, keep him around then go after a new q.b. Mcfadden will be 24, ford 23, and there you have it the big 3 and all young, with an all young o-line ready for a legit q.b. to take over.

  264. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
    Finally back pedaling, Raider E? Good boy. Because I’m no Steeler fan.

    +++++++++++++++
    You are the one who is back peddling, how were the eqyptians white????

    you call yourself intelligent yet you say the eqptians were white….lol….

    Like I said stupidest post of the day…
    A

  265. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # olinesux Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    rmr is an established whiner fan…

    ………..

    Now it’s the Niners again! I knew that wouldn’t take long. Come on, E. Set him straight. Let him know who my team is! LOL.

  266. BumpNRun Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
    Why do you guys constantly feed the troll?

    ******************************************

    It’s fun to watch it puke on occasion.

  267. manassamauler Says:

    nice win. raiders dominated the 2nd half. campbell calmed down and got it done. campbell is decent, better than grad. wonder of we’ll try and pick up another QB next year to compete with JC. maybe kyle orton.

  268. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?

  269. Raider E Says:

    The light bulb just came on. RMR is a fan of everything not Raiders. Hows that for backpeddling? I’ll wait….

  270. manassamauler Says:

    263.big pep Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
    j.c. is not the solution at q.b. for the future of the raiders. draft big nasties next year, keep him around then go after a new q.b. Mcfadden will be 24, ford 23, and there you have it the big 3 and all young, with an all young o-line ready for a legit q.b. to take over.

    why not draft a QB in the second round next year?

  271. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BumpNRun is merely noting the fact that he likes to see the troll puke..lol. He’s merely nothing the fact. He notes facts.

  272. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raider E, olinesux says I’m a Niner fan! Why would you want to discredit your Raider brother? Don’t you want to get his back? I can’t be a Niner fan, and a fan of all things non Raiders. Because then I’d have to be a fan of NFC teams, too. Come on, you guys. Get this figured out. LOL.

  273. lefty12 Says:

    People who believes our Oline is so terrible should be required to watch the Packers Oline.Pathetic.

  274. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
    Tebow and Campbell both suck, and are both supported by people with agendas having nothing to do with sports. Anyone with a brain can see right through it.

    ======================================================

    “Anyone with a brain..”?
    That lets you out then.

  275. manassamauler Says:

    oh and marcel reese is a beast. better keep that guy, pay him good $$$$

  276. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m merely noting the fact, btw. LOL.

  277. RaidingTexas Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:

    Just realistic. 100+ QB rating with a 70 yards rushing is something we will have to figure out in years ahead.

    ————–

    JFB, please look at post #261. 40 of those 70 yards were due to illegal holding. It’s a fluke. Come on.

  278. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?

    +++++++++++++++++++

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…

    You should change your name you are showing pure ingnorance….. The eqyptians were white….

    hahahahahahaa best post ever….lol

    So what are you basing this on? History? Blood line?
    heiroglyphs?

  279. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How about the game from McClain??

    Dude was dominant

  280. rAiDeR_DyNaStY Says:

    The real madden raider and his team can suck my shlong and lick my balls

  281. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    England Raider, are you mad that I set you straight on Vick? Vick is going to be MVP this year, and deserves it. And the thing with the dogs, first of all, he never hurt any dog. It was a business he ran. And, he made a mistake. He’s human. It’s not something worth ruining his life for. He’s a good man, and God is obviously on his side. Look at how he’s playing. Tebow, on the other hand…

  282. Raider E Says:

    RMR is a fan of everything not Raiders. Is that plain enough english RMR? I stand behind it.

  283. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
    Why do you guys constantly feed the troll?

    ======================================================

    An excellent point.

  284. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?

    ++++++++++

    I hope you did not go to college if you did you need to get a refund….ROFLMAO….

  285. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If it is not called it is not a penalty.

    I hate that whiny shat. You could or couldn’t call a penalty on ever play, just play on and man up.

  286. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?

    ++++++++++++

    Where is the proof to back up your ridiculous claim?

  287. RaiderTW Says:

    It doesn’t matter what Tebow’s QB rating is he only completed 8 passes, for gawd’s sake! People are STILL arguing about Cambell? Grads won’t play the rest of the year anyway.
    Go for McNabb in teh off season!

  288. Raider E Says:

    I agree Fire. McClain is a Beast. Damn the whole defense is Rabid at times. Just need to STOP the big plays.

  289. manassamauler Says:

    raiders are getting better. we can all see it. the QB position is the biggest question. i also think we need a ball hawking safety. raiders get almost no ints. secondary has fallen off this year. those rookies should step up.

  290. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Vick’s company was fighting dogs that were condemned by the very people who are criticizing him for it. Pit bulls, etc. I’ll bet you about 1% of Vick’s critics are pit owners. Most of them believe pits should be banned from domestic ownership, and even killed off. Yet when Vick gets busted for fighting them, suddenly they’re mad. Fake outrage, anyone? EnglandRaider?

  291. manassamauler Says:

    It doesn’t matter what Tebow’s QB rating is he only completed 8 passes, for gawd’s sake! People are STILL arguing about Cambell? Grads won’t play the rest of the year anyway.
    Go for McNabb in teh off season!

    we’re not getting mcnabb. kyle orton is a more realistic option, to compete with JC for the job. that or draft a QB with the 2nd round pick.

  292. RaiderTW Says:

    Raider E Says:
    RMR is a fan of everything not Raiders. Is that plain enough english RMR? I stand behind it.
    ———–
    BINGO!
    Now quit feeding the troll!

  293. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
    England Raider, are you mad that I set you straight on Vick? Vick is going to be MVP this year, and deserves it. And the thing with the dogs, first of all, he never hurt any dog. It was a business he ran. And, he made a mistake. He’s human. It’s not something worth ruining his life for. He’s a good man, and God is obviously on his side. Look at how he’s playing. Tebow, on the other hand…

    ======================================================

    Do you get newspapers in Sacramento or don’t they deliver to trailor parks?

    Michael Vick admitted to personally participating in choking dogs to death who wouldn’t fight.
    Me and my Golden Retreiver didn’t like that and I don’t give a fuk how many games he wins.

  294. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?

    +++++++++++++==

    I will give you a pass if you say you have been drinking…

  295. manassamauler Says:

    279.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:01 pm
    How about the game from McClain??

    Dude was dominant

    run defense is FAR better when mcClain plays. anybody notice that? guy is a great in run support

  296. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    England Raider is telling you guys not to address me, when he’s tried to address me and be all witty 3 times already, and I’m sure he’s not done. What an elitist snob. No surprise he’s from England.

  297. Thec07 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?

    ++++++++++++

    Where is the proof to back up your ridiculous claim?

    “smart guy” like you should be able to shore up his argument….Right?

  298. RaiderTW Says:

    we’re not getting mcnabb.
    ==========
    And why not?

  299. rAiDeR_DyNaStY Says:

    REAL MADDEN RAIDER = TYPING TROLL

  300. TerrapinRaider Says:

    How about DHB and that all hands catch, huh?

  301. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    I thought McClain didn’t practice all week, then he comes out and plays that well!

  302. manassamauler Says:

    Do you get newspapers in Sacramento or don’t they deliver to trailor parks?

    Michael Vick admitted to personally participating in choking dogs to death who wouldn’t fight.
    Me and my Golden Retreiver didn’t like that and I don’t give a fuk how many games he wins.

    yeah i dont like vick. i think hes mentally ill. the guy tortured animals. thats what serial killers start with. he didnt just kill dogs, he tortured them and had a good time doing it. drowning, beating and electrocuting dogs to death is sick. i cant root for this guy. he’ll end up killing somebody later.

  303. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    That was part of Vick’s plea bargain, EnglandRaider. Use your head. No millionaire is choking and bleeding out dogs. That’s a job for the help. He owned the company. Part of his deal is that he had to be the face of that whole operation. He had to admit to something that would make him look like a demon, otherwise he was going down for the whole rap, which would have meant life in prison. Don’t be stupid. And what is your problem with Sacramento? Yeh, we got trailer parks. We also have a constitution written by and for the people, and don’t bow down to any fake monarchy. You know you’re jealous of America.

  304. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?

    ++++++++++++++

    “if” you did go to college they failed you son…

  305. manassamauler Says:

    300.TerrapinRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
    How about DHB and that all hands catch, huh?

    301.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    too bad he cant male more of those plays. i think jacoby ford has made DHB less important now. would be a dream to have BOTH of those guys step up though. fastest WR core in the nfl.

  306. imisstimbrown Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    Raiders just moved from about number 10 to number 13 in next year’s draft with today’s win. Would have been better to lose.

    ************************************************************

    huh?? did bilidick give us the pick back???

  307. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Manassmauler you don’t know anything. Serial killers kill animals by themselves, not for business. Vick was running a business. It’s different. And he wasn’t doing it for pleasure. If he killed animals for pleasure, he’d be going out into the forest and killer deers, just to put the antlers on his wall. Then of course his critics would call him an all American guy. He killed them for business. They were useless to him, he couldn’;t make money off of them, and they were in too bad of shape to put up for adoption, plus they were too aggresive anyway. You guys are too stupid for this conversation. You believe that you read in the papers, and that’s your problem. Don’t you know who owns the media? Get real.

  308. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    That DHB catch was terrific. Not much of a throw but a great catch.

  309. manassamauler Says:

    298.RaiderTW Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
    we’re not getting mcnabb.
    ==========
    And why not?

    its a longshot. LOTS of teams will go after him.

  310. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    White hunters kill animals for pleasure, and it’s no surprise that a lot of serial killers were once hunters, had lots of gun magazines, etc. Look at these tea party guys starting to bust caps everywhere. At that Florida school board meeting. THERE’S your serial killers. Vick’s a business man. He made a mistake. His life is back in order now, and he’s going to be the NFL MVP this year. And, you punks are just hating on him. I’m out for a while. Catch up with you tards later.

  311. Just Fire Baby Says:

    DHB with an all hands catch.

    Sadly he ended the day with 1 catch for 20 yards.

    Just don’t know what to make of the guy. Makes a great catch but than disappears for a half.

  312. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Vick is not going to be NFL MVP, but he will be 2nd or 3rd place.

    Matt Ryan and Tom Brady will be 1-2 in that race.

  313. manassamauler Says:

    carson palmer is another possibility.

  314. RaiderTW Says:

    we’re not getting mcnabb.
    ==========
    And why not?

    its a longshot. LOTS of teams will go after him.
    —————
    BFD Al can over pay with the best of them!

  315. Guy Says:

    Campbell over Palmer, Palmer is terrible from what I’ve seen this year and at times last year.

  316. manassamauler Says:

    311.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
    DHB with an all hands catch.

    Sadly he ended the day with 1 catch for 20 yards.

    Just don’t know what to make of the guy. Makes a great catch but than disappears for a half.

    i dont know either. would be great to have ford and dhb as the 1-2 WR combo. with a QB who can get them the ball plus the running game the raiders would put up 30 ppg.

  317. imisstimbrown Says:

    im scared that now that T.O. has a knee issue we will end up signing him for big $$$$

  318. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Brady manning brees couldn’t have done what eagle 7 did today. Vick wave of the future! Move over bacon here comes something meatier!

  319. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
    298.RaiderTW Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
    we’re not getting mcnabb.
    ==========
    And why not?

    its a longshot. LOTS of teams will go after him.
    ———————-
    I would rather have Campbell at QB than McNabb. Mcnabb is out of shape at can’t run a two minute offense.

  320. manassamauler Says:

    314.RaiderTW Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
    we’re not getting mcnabb.
    ==========
    And why not?

    its a longshot. LOTS of teams will go after him.
    —————
    BFD Al can over pay with the best of them!

    IF you’re right then the raiders will win the afc west next year. mcnabb could win here, he would get ford and DHB on track. would be just like it was in philly for him with jackson and maclin. BUT here he would have a top 5 running back too. raiders could win 12 games next year with mcnabb.

  321. lefty12 Says:

    TW-298-because he is old and washed up.

  322. olinesux Says:

    bey knows when the ball is not going to him so he just runs his said route, never really trying to get open.

  323. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Give me Campbell over Palmer and McNabb.

    Wouldn’t mind that Buffalo QB to compete for the job though.

  324. manassamauler Says:

    319.Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
    Manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:13 pm
    298.RaiderTW Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
    we’re not getting mcnabb.
    ==========
    And why not?

    its a longshot. LOTS of teams will go after him.
    ———————-
    I would rather have Campbell at QB than McNabb. Mcnabb is out of shape at can’t run a two minute offense.

    mcnabb was great in philly in 09, average in wash. he would be better than campbell here. but i think kyle orton is a more realistic option IF the raiders want another QB

  325. ArmChair GM Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?
    _______________________________________________________

    Educationally challenged RMR. The Egyptians of today are mostly of Arab descant. In fact the official name of Egypt is The Arab Republic of Egypt..

    Arabs are classified as Caucasian by the misguided US census. However ask any Arab person if they feel that they are treated equally to “White” Europeans, especially after 9/11.

    Furthermore, the Egyptians of today ARE NOT the original inhabitants of Egypt, just as the people that make up the Americas today are not the original inhabitants of the land…

    War, enslavement, colonization, genocide and migration have changed the demographics of America today and the same thing happened in Egypt. The original Egyptians were Black people The same as Black people in America today.

    Just as the Black population of America today ranges from light skinned, to tan, to chocolate, to dark brown, to the deepest of ebony, it was the same in Ancient Egypt…

    Try and wrap your little brain around that RMR…

  326. ArmChair GM Says:

    *descent

  327. jmcclain Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    A gutsy grity tough blue collar win for jc. Struggles early shakes off to blow it open in the 4th.

    Campbell haters consider yourselves OWNED!

    —————————

    lmao big plays from mcfadden, Reece. And ford. They make big plays not Campbell. Bad throws all day. Come on know.

  328. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I wonder if KoolKell has updated his stats for us??

  329. manassamauler Says:

    318.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
    Brady manning brees couldn’t have done what eagle 7 did today. Vick wave of the future! Move over bacon here comes something meatier!

    vick gets hammered every week. eagles wont beat the saints or falcons IMO. its going to be a saints-pats superbowl. brady will get his 4th ring

  330. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Tommy Kelly should be a pro bowler this year.

    Anyone want to mock the stats myself and Jhill threw out as proof he was a top 10 DT??

  331. Twocents Says:

    Got to love that RMR. He tries so hard to be intellectual.

    The tell is that he always accuses others of what he does himself.

  332. TerrapinRaider Says:

    It does not escape me however that you guys complain a whole helluva lot about playcalling for a team that gains over 500yds in a game lol!!

    Lay off the Madden …shheeez

  333. manassamauler Says:

    332.TerrapinRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
    It does not escape me however that you guys complain a whole helluva lot about playcalling for a team that gains over 500yds in a game lol!!

    Lay off the Madden …shheeez

    raiders have a top 10 offense and a defense that can be top 10. the team is 7-7 and thats a bad record for these guys. thats the real complaint.

  334. YoungAmerican Says:

    # Twocents Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:27 pm

    Got to love that RMR. He tries so hard to be intellectual.

    The tell is that he always accuses others of what he does himself.

    ———-

    I remember when RMR was trying to tell me that the “law” of averages was a legitimate mathematical rule.

  335. lefty12 Says:

    And Vick has never done what the Mannings,Brady or Brees have done-win a SB.

  336. YoungAmerican Says:

    Gotta say, I couldn’t be happier that TK proved me wrong. Guy is looking like he’s worth every dollar of his paycheck.

  337. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Yeah, they are better than they play but they are just too darn inconsistent. Part of that falls on coaching …part of it falls on players

    Campbell has been playing good ball lately; but absolutely terrible ball at the beginning of the season. That was a major factor.

    And outside of the division the team has clearly stunk which doesn’t make a whole lot of sense considering SD and KC beat those same teams.

  338. manassamauler Says:

    336.YoungAmerican Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    Gotta say, I couldn’t be happier that TK proved me wrong. Guy is looking like he’s worth every dollar of his paycheck.

    we have an elite defensive line. kelly is an elite DT now. better resign seymour. the seymour trade was the best move made by the raiders in years.

  339. Just Fire Baby Says:

    As bad as things looked in the first half, this team just manned up and proved who the better team was in the 2nd half.

    Kudo’s to the coaching staff for coming out of the tunnel in the 2nd half with a purpose.

  340. Thec07 Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    +++++++++++++++++=

    I was waiting for the idiot to post his proof on why he felt the eqyptians, were/are white…He kept dodging me never would respond…He knows when he is in over his head though….

    Good for you real madden idiot for stupidest post of the year….

  341. imisstimbrown Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    Gotta say, I couldn’t be happier that TK proved me wrong. Guy is looking like he’s worth every dollar of his paycheck.

    ***********************************************************
    ditto….does anyone when his contract is up??

  342. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Gotta say, I couldn’t be happier that TK proved me wrong. Guy is looking like he’s worth every dollar of his paycheck.

    ******************************

    I wouldn’t go THAT FAR, but he is not looking like a waste of money.

    Making plays, providing leadership, and even helping injured guys off the field. No doubt TK is one of our on the field leaders.

  343. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?
    +++++++++++

    What the little racist is really trying to say that all intelligence comes from “whites”…

    Just like some of the posters clamour for a “white qb”….

  344. Thec07 Says:

    Most posters in here wont admit it but they beleive hte same bull as “so called black QB’s not being cerebral enough to handle the QB postition….

  345. lefty12 Says:

    Our record can be directly attributed to the play of the QB position.When we have had adequate QB play we have been successful.Todays game is a perfect example.JC sucked in the 1st half and we were terrible.He came around in the 2nd half and we pulled away.

  346. Thec07 Says:

    I just want a QB that can ball out, dont care what race he is….Some on this board know they cant say that….

  347. J Hill Says:

    Making plays, providing leadership, and even helping injured guys off the field. No doubt TK is one of our on the field leaders.

    ——————————————————

    How could you leave out the commentary?

    CLEARLY our best interview!

  348. Thec07 Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    Our record can be directly attributed to the play of the QB position.When we have had adequate QB play we have been successful.Todays game is a perfect example.JC sucked in the 1st half and we were terrible.He came around in the 2nd half and we pulled away.

    +++++++++++++++

    What was funny you calling out all the cry babies out for jumping off the bridge during the first half…priceless….

  349. Just Fire Baby Says:

    CLEARLY our best interview!

    *********************************

    No doubt.

    And he was one to blow off the media for a few years, so one can have hope for RoMac stepping up his quote game.

  350. J Hill Says:

    Our record can be directly attributed to the play of the QB position.

    ——————————————————-

    Disagree.

    Az, Houston without Andre Johnson, Miami with a broke knee Henne, 31 pts in the second half.

    All defensive breakdowns that just should not have happened.

  351. manassamauler Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    Most posters in here wont admit it but they beleive hte same bull as “so called black QB’s not being cerebral enough to handle the QB postition

    who cares man. I’m sure you believe that white running backs cant be as “cerebral” as black rbs. who cares man?

  352. lefty12 Says:

    Thec-there are many on both sides of that.It is a shame that color should even enter into the picture.

  353. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Kind of bittersweet to think of beating the Chiefs week 17 to allow the Dolts into the playoffs.

    I think we will all be hating Seabass all offseason, as I don’t see the Dolts losing one of these last two games.

    Either way, if you can screw over a division rival you do it, no matter who it is.

  354. TerrapinRaider Says:

    The fate of the Raiders will be determined next week. Whatever happens, this team has made good progress this year; which bodes well for the future.

    5-0 in the division.
    Top 10 offense
    Top 10 defense
    Immediate Impact Rookies: RoMac, Lamaar, Veldheer, Ford with the potential of B.Campbell sitting in the wings
    JCamp with another offseason under his belt

    Its looking good. But it will be an interesting offseason given all the contracts to discuss.

    If Cable remains the HC, which I think he would, (only giving up such duties of Hue is a threat to leave for another HC job) he has to find a way for this team to play at a high level consistenly. That is the key.

  355. Thec07 Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    Most posters in here wont admit it but they beleive hte same bull as “so called black QB’s not being cerebral enough to handle the QB postition

    who cares man. I’m sure you believe that white running backs cant be as “cerebral” as black rbs. who cares man?

    +++++++++

    do you have a point?

  356. J Hill Says:

    LMFAO at the KR by the big dude!

  357. manassamauler Says:

    343.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?
    +++++++++++

    What the little racist is really trying to say that all intelligence comes from “whites”…

    Just like some of the posters clamour for a “white qb”….

    >>>>>

    what is this white QB obsession? most great QBS are white. its a FACT. most great RBs are black. its a fact. who cares? raiders do need an exceptional QB. campbell is NOT exceptional. wont win a superbowl with campbell. and that IS the goal. need elite QB play to win a superbowl. campbell is not elite.

  358. morilla Says:

    Great game! Coliseum was rocking and got a little wet. Nation!!!

  359. Thec07 Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    Thec-there are many on both sides of that.It is a shame that color should even enter into the picture.

    ++++++++++++

    Exactly my point…Society really shapes our views weather we want to admit it or not.

    Best QB of all time was #12 from the 70 raiders…
    not a color, simply the best…

  360. big pep Says:

    someone here posted that we should trade for matt flyn of green bay, im watching him play, i couldnt agree more with that.

  361. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’ve been an admitted hater of Campbell, but he played all right today minus the INT into double coverage.

    He will never be a great QB, but with D-Mac and a great D we can win the division.

  362. manassamauler Says:

    355.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    Most posters in here wont admit it but they beleive hte same bull as “so called black QB’s not being cerebral enough to handle the QB postition

    who cares man. I’m sure you believe that white running backs cant be as “cerebral” as black rbs. who cares man?

    +++++++++

    do you have a point?

    my point is that you are harping a stupid subject and yoir nonsense gives people headaches. focus on something important. who cares if the egytians were white!!!!!!!!!!!!!wtf what does that have to do with the raiders winning again? white QBS black QBS.

  363. Thec07 Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    343.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?
    +++++++++++

    What the little racist is really trying to say that all intelligence comes from “whites”…

    Just like some of the posters clamour for a “white qb”….

    >>>>>

    what is this white QB obsession? most great QBS are white. its a FACT. most great RBs are black. its a fact. who cares? raiders do need an exceptional QB. campbell is NOT exceptional. wont win a superbowl with campbell. and that IS the goal. need elite QB play to win a superbowl. campbell is not elite.

    +++++++++++

    Again I ask, what is your point????

  364. lefty12 Says:

    JHill-in all those game the play of the QB was subpar.There are going to be breakdowns in every game.The good teams overcome them.When our QB is subpar,we can’t ;when he isn’t we can.Again today is a perfect example.3 turnovers in the 1st half,letting Tebow run for the TD,the whiff by Routt-all breakdowns.

  365. manassamauler Says:

    359.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    lefty12 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    Thec-there are many on both sides of that.It is a shame that color should even enter into the picture.

    ++++++++++++

    Exactly my point…Society really shapes our views weather we want to admit it or not.

    Best QB of all time was #12 from the 70 raiders…
    not a color, simply the best…

    this is tough for me to say BUT the best QB of all time is playing right now and i have seen the greats.

  366. Guy Says:

    Dan connoly is a better return man than higgins

  367. manassamauler Says:

    363.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
    manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    343.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?
    +++++++++++

    What the little racist is really trying to say that all intelligence comes from “whites”…

    Just like some of the posters clamour for a “white qb”….

    >>>>>

    what is this white QB obsession? most great QBS are white. its a FACT. most great RBs are black. its a fact. who cares? raiders do need an exceptional QB. campbell is NOT exceptional. wont win a superbowl with campbell. and that IS the goal. need elite QB play to win a superbowl. campbell is not elite.

    +++++++++++

    Again I ask, what is your point????

    _____
    that you make no sense and should go to bed now and let the adults talk.

  368. Carl Weathers Says:

    Contract Information for Tommy Kelly

    Kelly’s contract details…

    2/28/2008: Signed seven-year, $50.5 million contract. The deal contains $18.125 million guaranteed, including a $13 million signing bonus and a $4.5 million in-season “signing” bonus in the second year. Another $2 million is available through incentives. 2010: $4.5 million, 2011: $5.5 million, 2012: $6 million, 2013: $6.5 million, 2014: $7 million, 2015: Free Agent

  369. TerrapinRaider Says:

    You never know …looks like JCamp is getting more comfortable with his WRs and he has rediscovered his ability to run; which does wonders for the offense.

  370. Thec07 Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    355.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    Most posters in here wont admit it but they beleive hte same bull as “so called black QB’s not being cerebral enough to handle the QB postition

    who cares man. I’m sure you believe that white running backs cant be as “cerebral” as black rbs. who cares man?

    +++++++++

    do you have a point?

    my point is that you are harping a stupid subject and yoir nonsense gives people headaches. focus on something important. who cares if the egytians were white!!!!!!!!!!!!!wtf what does that have to do with the raiders winning again? white QBS black QBS.

    ++++++++++++

    Stupid to you maybe, thats your opinion….
    Harping, doubt it, first time I have ever brought it up on this blog…
    Last time i checked Bro you werent jerry or john however, if you can get a check to me worth about 10k a month then you can tell me what to post or not to post…..Next

  371. Just Fire Baby Says:

    $ 6 millie for TK in 2012???

    Sounds like a deal to me

  372. big pep Says:

    bottom line is we need o-line help, q.b. doesnt matter if your o-line cant block a simple 4 man front, with an every now and then blitz. or a 3 man front with a l.bs coming off the edge.

  373. RaiderTW Says:

    Best QB of all time was #12 from the 70 raiders…
    not a color, simply the best…
    ———–
    I agree, best Raider QB EVER. I still would rather have McNabb than Cambell.

  374. SnB Production Says:

    Raiders can win with JC. Better off letting him get comfortable with the system and move forward. The Raiders are TERRIBLE at developing QBs. Let Hue Jackson work with JC…..30+ in last 3 games…I am good with that.

    Now for the defense…had the defense stepped its game up last week…the Raiders are still in it.

    They need another CB opposite Nnamdi. Why? Because look at what the Raiders ask their corners to do. play on an island on nearly every play with little over the top help and also leaving little doubt with the opponent as to what they will do.

    The Raiders need to BAUCE CBs to make it go.

    Still fuming over the “5 Safety Set”…..good grief!

  375. manassamauler Says:

    369.TerrapinRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    You never know …looks like JCamp is getting more comfortable with his WRs and he has rediscovered his ability to run; which does wonders for the offense.

    campbell is good. but not exceptional. this team has the talent, offense is elite IMO. the goal is to wim the superbowl. i cant see campbell getting us there. thats how i think.

  376. imisstimbrown Says:

    thanks carl w. !!

  377. manassamauler Says:

    372.big pep Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
    bottom line is we need o-line help, q.b. doesnt matter if your o-line cant block a simple 4 man front, with an every now and then blitz. or a 3 man front with a l.bs coming off the edge.

    campbell wasnt touched last week or this week. oline has played well recently.

  378. Thec07 Says:

    manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
    363.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
    manassamauler Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
    343.Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Moi, back pedal? I think not. I know Egyptians are white, never back pedaled once from it. Are you delusional?
    +++++++++++

    What the little racist is really trying to say that all intelligence comes from “whites”…

    Just like some of the posters clamour for a “white qb”….

    >>>>>

    what is this white QB obsession? most great QBS are white. its a FACT. most great RBs are black. its a fact. who cares? raiders do need an exceptional QB. campbell is NOT exceptional. wont win a superbowl with campbell. and that IS the goal. need elite QB play to win a superbowl. campbell is not elite.

    +++++++++++

    Again I ask, what is your point????

    _____
    that you make no sense and should go to bed now and let the adults talk.

    ++++++++++++++

    You came at me based on my post…I dont beleive i have ever addressed you… Again if you can pay me 10k a month then i will listen to what you say…You dont like my post dont respond, just keep it moving…

  379. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    This is the first year that Kelly has actually earned his pay check.

    I must admit that I thought he would be worse this year when he showed up having lost all that weight but it seems to have made him a better player-either that did or playing alongside of a pro like Seymour did.

  380. J Hill Says:

    Agree to disagree Lefty.

    You know I’m a defensive guy, so I’m going to throw that unit under the bus for allowing 31 pts in the 2nd half of the Jags game. For allowing the Texans to run all over us with a backup in the 1st half and Foster in the 2nd half. For allowing Az to even be in the game. And Miami? Pathetic!

  381. TerrapinRaider Says:

    With the talent around Campbell all he needs to be is good and we can win a SB. DMC running the ball is hellacious! If these WRs, in particular, DHB comes alive ..you simply can’t stop this offense and a good QB can win it for you. He doesn’t need to be great if the team around him is better.

  382. SnB Production Says:

    Offense is straight getting it done. No need to talk about QBs, RBs and even O-Line anymore…Of course the WRs are lacking….but that SHOULD be easy to fix.

    Defense…damn they give up too many big freekn plays…….too many…and they haven’t figured out how to stop them.

  383. Guy Says:

    Kelly still looked good with Seymour out, but of course we all knew having big John Henderson would be helpful

  384. Thec07 Says:

    Losing the weight has done Kelly wonders..He has been balling all year…We were getting great run penetration without richard seymour in the game….
    That was a good testament to our Dline stepping up, and McClain ballin…We missed him in the jacksonville game….

  385. SnB Production Says:

    380.J Hill Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
    Agree to disagree Lefty.

    You know I’m a defensive guy, so I’m going to throw that unit under the bus for allowing 31 pts in the 2nd half of the Jags game. For allowing the Texans to run all over us with a backup in the 1st half and Foster in the 2nd half. For allowing Az to even be in the game. And Miami? Pathetic!

    ======================================================
    Agreed on this one. The defense jacked up that game last week. Period. And its the same problem of someone not doing their job and the defense getting torched.

    Not sure how this team fixes that.

  386. TerrapinRaider Says:

    RoMac is just getting better and showing more emotion on the field. I like what I’m seeing. He’s going to get this defense right.

  387. SnB Production Says:

    I was TK’s biggest critic and I don’t apologize for it. He was a lazy azz player until Seymour, henderson and Waufle taught him how to man up.

  388. Thec07 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
    Agree to disagree Lefty.

    You know I’m a defensive guy, so I’m going to throw that unit under the bus for allowing 31 pts in the 2nd half of the Jags game. For allowing the Texans to run all over us with a backup in the 1st half and Foster in the 2nd half. For allowing Az to even be in the game. And Miami? Pathetic!

    ++++++++++++

    In my opinion that had more to do with McClain being out…I have ridiculed him for his sideline to sideline speed, however we clearly play better when he is on the field…

  389. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    It was hard to believe that some were coming on here calling McClain a bust.
    That guy is one of the best players we’ve picked up in the draft in a long time. A real student of the game. You just don’t get middle line backers that good in a draft very often who play well in their first year.
    We had a great a great draft last year and we need a repeat this year. We need to pay attention to the OL and QB positions.

  390. Carl Weathers Says:

    Nice to see the Raiders overcome early turnovers and keep runnung the rock…

    I have to give it up for some guys that had very good games that take a beating around here- Branch, Huff, McClain, Carlise & Henderson replacing Walker.

  391. Just Fire Baby Says:

    RoMac is 20 years old, lol.

    Can you imagine the beast this dude will be when his 25 years old?

  392. J Hill Says:

    That’s just one game Thec, and I agree that if McClain is in there we win.

    What about the other 3 though?

  393. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Watch how jacked RoMac is going to be next year. Rookies usually hit the weights during the offseason to really get NFL ready. Its going to be freakish this kid.

  394. Thec07 Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
    It was hard to believe that some were coming on here calling McClain a bust.
    That guy is one of the best players we’ve picked up in the draft in a long time. A real student of the game. You just don’t get middle line backers that good in a draft very often who play well in their first year.
    We had a great a great draft last year and we need a repeat this year. We need to pay attention to the OL and QB positions.

    +++++++++++

    some of the observations I had on McClain was his sideline to sideline speed, and his big hit ability.
    He seemed to be just a second late sort of playing on his heels reacting, instead of using his natural insticts to take over… He is really starting to show some promise… Was a good pickup…

  395. manassamauler Says:

    McClain was a great 1st round pick, the guy is great in run support. makes the run defense much better.

  396. mizza Says:

    This just in, Gus Johnson formally asked Tim Tebow’s hand in marriage shortly after the game. Gus Johnson was quoted as saying “Tim Tebow is all I have ever wanted in my life.”

  397. lefty12 Says:

    JHill-agree to disagree.BTW,I’m not giving the D a pass,they haven’t always pulled their weight-especially last week.But for the most part,I put it on what I consider the most important position-the QB.

  398. Guy Says:

    Branch was also really good today because he got to play to his strength. The Denver backs got out of a few big tackles for loss, but Branch cleaned them up about 1 yard behind the LOS a few times.

  399. manassamauler Says:

    381.TerrapinRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
    With the talent around Campbell all he needs to be is good and we can win a SB. DMC running the ball is hellacious! If these WRs, in particular, DHB comes alive ..you simply can’t stop this offense and a good QB can win it for you. He doesn’t need to be great if the team around him is better.

    campbell has to be better. even brad johnson was great when the bucs won the superbowl.

  400. SnB Production Says:

    McClain has been very good and what the team needed.

    The issue of giving up these big plays is far bigger than any player on this team…I believe it has something to do with focus and preparation.

    WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY tooooo many big plays for TDs.

    I know that better be the focus in the offseason…..just not sure how you fix it

  401. Thec07 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
    That’s just one game Thec, and I agree that if McClain is in there we win.

    What about the other 3 though?

    ++++++++++

    Jhill, what up Bruh? As i see it as RoMac goes so goes the defense…

    I dont like marshall, he relies to much on the base 4…when he dials it up that changes the complextion of the game…

    tbow when he did drop back had all day to thow…If we had of been playing a good defense we would have lost that game….

  402. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Brad Johnson was never a great player.

  403. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Brad Johnson had 22 TD’s and 6 int’s, with a top 3 QB rating when they won the Super Bowl.

    If we can get that, we can win the SB too.

  404. Thec07 Says:

    Oh and Jhill for the record you know i never give the D a pass Bruh…. We give up way to many big plays…

  405. Carl Weathers Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
    Losing the weight has done Kelly wonders..He has been balling all year…We were getting great run penetration without richard seymour in the game….
    That was a good testament to our Dline stepping up, and McClain ballin…We missed him in the jacksonville game….
    ***********
    This is the best D-line we’ve had since the 80’s.

  406. SnB Production Says:

    JC putting up some 25+ per game the last 3 gms.

    QB is no longer the issue.

    Is JC a top 5 QB…Nope…and you will NEVER get a top 5 QB off the shelf.

    But he’s good enough to win the division….and if the defense made two stops last week…..the division title would be under their control

    Special teams are weak too

  407. Thec07 Says:

    JFORD needs to do a better job of KOR…He is looking like the suspect….

  408. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Everyone should know by now that the Chiefs and the Chargers are both jokes if one of them make the playoffs. None of them can defeat the Raiders (granted the Chiefs still remain) who are in the same damn division so how can they mount a challenge when they aren’t even the best in the division?

  409. lefty12 Says:

    What the Tommy Kelly bashers also failed to realize is this is year #2 since his reconstructive knee surgery-a surgery that the Drs say takes 2 years to completely heal.The weight loss is great,but he is finally totally healthy.

  410. ArmChair GM Says:

    Ok let’s look at where we are. We need both Sd and KC to lose next week.

    Ciny is the best chance to beat SD because I don’t see the Broncos getting it done on the last week of the NFL.

    Tennessee is very capable of beating KC in my opinion. Guess I’ll be rooting for Randy Moss and Chris Johnson next week.

    WE can beat Indy, but we have to play lights out defense…

  411. SnB Production Says:

    Terrapin,

    But here’s the problem. The Raiders did NOTHING outside the division. Losing several games due to mental mistakes, bad playcalling or QB chaos.

    Too bad they can’t start the season over with the roster as it is

  412. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Do you think it was Brad Johnson or the team that year? Thats what I’m saying …really, Brad Johnson? Thats laughable.

  413. Thec07 Says:

    SnB Production Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    Terrapin,

    But here’s the problem. The Raiders did NOTHING outside the division. Losing several games due to mental mistakes, bad playcalling or QB chaos.

    Too bad they can’t start the season over with the roster as it is

    +++++++++++

    Dont forget FG kicking…

  414. SnB Production Says:

    LEfty,

    TK wasn’t applying himself and he admitted as such.

    That’s been the problem in Oakland lately…players not working hard at their craft.

    Overweight and indifferent…fortunately some veterans and Wauffle but their foot in his #!$! and he responded.

  415. Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    I want to see the Packers win. I hate the Bears.

  416. SnB Production Says:

    Thec,

    Clearly Jano was out the lunch too……again, focus.

    Still can’t understand why he didn’t put that ball in the end zone last week on the long KR

  417. J Hill Says:

    Lefty,

    QB is only as good as the guys around him. QB is going to miss some throws completing 6 outta 10 passes us considered pretty dam good.

    I saw you guys going back and forth over the Zack Miller drop earlier today. I think you guys were both right. It could have been a better pass, but the ball hit Zack in both his hands. Once we start making the majority of those plays, this offense will take off.

  418. ArmChair GM Says:

    Anybody watching the NE Green Bay game? Is it just me, or is poor tackling becoming a phenomenon in the NFL?

  419. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderTW Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
    Best QB of all time was #12 from the 70 raiders…
    not a color, simply the best…
    ———–
    I agree, best Raider QB EVER. I still would rather have McNabb than Cambell.

    +++++++++++++=

    I dont think you heard me…

    Kenny ” The snake” Stabler In my opinion was the best to ever play the game….

  420. SnB Production Says:

    You look at what JaDavis did when he was in Oaklland…Overweight, indifferent, drunk on punch…..

    I give Tom Cable credit for setting some expectations about caring about the game.

  421. Thec07 Says:

    ArmChair GM Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
    Anybody watching the NE Green Bay game? Is it just me, or is poor tackling becoming a phenomenon in the NFL?

    +++++++++++++

    Could be all the new rule changes has forced players to think instead of reacting and flying around…

  422. TerrapinRaider Says:

    ZMiller and definitely Tyvon Branch fell off this year vs last. ZMiller has better stats than last year but he’s been dropping balls and missing blocks. He needs to be back to the kitchen and work on his craft.

  423. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I am stats guy, but a 63% completion % with 22 TD’s with only 6 int’s and a 93+ QB rating and a SB ring is pretty good, no matter what the circumstances.

  424. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    TerrapinRaider Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
    Everyone should know by now that the Chiefs and the Chargers are both jokes if one of them make the playoffs. None of them can defeat the Raiders (granted the Chiefs still remain) who are in the same damn division so how can they mount a challenge when they aren’t even the best in the division?

    =======================================================

    Watched the first quarter of the St. Louis/KC game and it was REALLY hard to believe that these two teams were on top of their divisions.
    Tennessee was better this week, maybe they can do us a favor.

  425. Thec07 Says:

    SnB Production Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
    Thec,

    Clearly Jano was out the lunch too……again, focus.

    Still can’t understand why he didn’t put that ball in the end zone last week on the long KR

    ++++++++++++=

    I said the exact same thing Bruh…I was hoping he would have kicked it in the stands….

    To me Jano gets all that money and is a fail…

  426. Thec07 Says:

    Jano for all his money should be kicking touchbacks every kick…

  427. Carl Weathers Says:

    What do you guys think of the Jano punt??

    I think Cable put him in with thoughts of a muffed punt. The rain had really picked up and with the whole left foot punter vs. right foot deal…

    Speaking of, the coverage was really good today. Glad they improved on a bad week in Jax.

    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIDERS~!

  428. J Hill Says:

    How about Tom Brady and his 50 yds passing tonight?

  429. NoPassingZone Says:

    We Dominated!! The score shouldn’t have even been this close…effing refs!

    True Score:

    Raiders 39 +7 (BS Illegal Formation Pen) = 46
    Broncos 23 -7 (TD was bobbling it out of bounds) = 16

    Kudos to Cable/Jackson for getting the ball into the hands of our weapons & running the ball.

  430. lefty12 Says:

    That is BS.He never said he didn’t apply himself.He said he had to do better.You took that to say he wasn’t trying-not the same thing.Saying I know I can do better and I have to do better doesn’t equate to not trying-it is called pushing yourself to improve.You were on here daily saying if he wasn’t on this team he couldn’t even play for another team.

  431. ArmChair GM Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    ArmChair GM Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
    Anybody watching the NE Green Bay game? Is it just me, or is poor tackling becoming a phenomenon in the NFL?

    +++++++++++++

    Could be all the new rule changes has forced players to think instead of reacting and flying around…
    ______________________________________________________

    Good point.

  432. Thec07 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
    How about Tom Brady and his 50 yds passing tonight?

    ++++++++++++===

    hahahahahahahahaha

    ahhhhhh yeah……F@K him…..

  433. SnB Production Says:

    Lefty,

    TK was overweight in past camps and was underachieving the last few years.

    I am happy he’s doing well now. He’s playing up to the contract that Al gave him.

  434. lefty12 Says:

    And they were losing until the Def. scored a TD.

  435. BigTed707 Says:

    Victory!
    Tebow Sucks!
    The Colts are Going Down!
    Rrrraaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiidddeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrsss!

  436. Thec07 Says:

    NoPassingZone Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
    We Dominated!! The score shouldn’t have even been this close…effing refs!

    True Score:

    Raiders 39 +7 (BS Illegal Formation Pen) = 46
    Broncos 23 -7 (TD was bobbling it out of bounds) = 16

    Kudos to Cable/Jackson for getting the ball into the hands of our weapons & running the ball.

    +++++++++++

    refs paid to keep it close….Could have called a holding penalty on the denver oline every down….

  437. Thec07 Says:

    I hope green bay knocks brady’s a$$ out…

  438. lefty12 Says:

    Part of the reason he was underachieving was his injury which,btw,you refused to acknowledge.If the team felt he was so over weight,they should have told him.He was switching to the inside and might have been told to add the extra weight or due to the injury he couldn’t work as hard as he should have,which I happen to believe.Also,with the coaching mess,there really wasn’t any true leader to tell him what they wanted.

  439. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You guys are too funny with this ref bias stuff.

    You realize they get graded per game, and the best grades get to ref the playoffs, i.e. make another 30K per week.

    You think they are going to bypass the opportunity to make 5 figures to screw over the Oakland Raiders?

    Get a grip.

  440. Thec07 Says:

    Yeah just like you need to take your grip off of tbows nut sac….

  441. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Just Fire Baby, thank you for babysitting them. I’ll take over from here.

  442. mikeschoice Says:

    raiders stepped it up this year now jerry mcD needs to step it up – cant get wi fi access or wireless internet setup that works as a reporter at a NFL venue?

  443. Just Fire Baby Says:

    You guys can keep up with the ref bias stuff, the DHB clear out nonsense, the O-line misery and fire Cable talk.

    I will stick with the actual facts. Cable has more wins than any coach in 7 years, DHB stinks, Broncos had more penalties yards than we did today and our O-line dominated.

    Facts people, facts.

  444. J Hill Says:

    and our O-line dominated.

    Facts people, facts.

    ——————————————————

    The QB got knocked out of the game, AGAIN, and was CONSTANTLY under pressure.

    Lasting image of the game was Satele on skates when Williams was pushing him into the backfield.

    Still, you’re right. 38 pts is 38 pts.

  445. olinesux Says:

    o line did good run blocking, ok pass blocking and as a whole have picked up their game. I think satslle gets punked still as does carlisle. walker is better than barnes or the kwame but seems to get hurt too easily. They can be upgraded…

  446. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Bronco’s had more penalties yards than us, but let’s talk about woulda-coulda-shoulda with the refs.

    How about we talk about:

    -How bad azz D-Mac is

    -How good McClain played

    -TK a pro bowler

    -JC playing better in the second half to win games

    -Still in the playoff hunt

  447. J Hill Says:

    Yeah, I’m not buyinng the refs are against us propoganda. They make mistakes like everyone else is about all it amounts to.

  448. manassamauler Says:

    titans can beat the queefs. wouldn’t surprise me at all. they’ve played 2 good games in a row now. chargers will beat the bungals though

  449. NoPassingZone Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:41 pm

    You guys can keep up with the ref bias stuff…Broncos had more penalties yards than we did today..
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The bias is there and if you don’t see it – you’re kidding yourself. In recent years even the commentators have conceded. We dominated to the point where the refs couldn’t stop us. But they kept Denver within reach for as long as they could. I mentions 14 points…you mention yardage…which would you rather have? Yardage they can equal things out in garbage time (like the holding call on Denver just before halftime – inconsequential)

    “To overturn a ruling, he must see “indisputable visual evidence” that the call on the field was wrong.

    Do you think they had that to overturn the incomplete call on the TD? What about the phantom illegal formation? Replay clearly showed we indeed had 7 men on the line of scrimmage. How do you explain these?
    You saw these with your own eyes.

  450. Raider75 Says:

    Routt and Huff suck.

    Raiders… they made Teblow look like Elway.

    Ugly win is still a win.

  451. manassamauler Says:

    446.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 19th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
    Bronco’s had more penalties yards than us, but let’s talk about woulda-coulda-shoulda with the refs.

    How about we talk about:

    -How bad azz D-Mac is

    -How good McClain played

    -TK a pro bowler

    -JC playing better in the second half to win games

    -Still in the playoff hunt

    ___
    better hope the chargers lose again

  452. LT DAN Says:

    To bad we screwed our selves with the loss last week and sea bass missing the three field goals earlier in the year

  453. raiderbone Says:

    CHIP KELLY FROM OREGON AS COACH OF THE RAIDERS… THIS GUY CABLE ALMOST BLEW IT BY MESSING OVER CAMPBELL… COULDDA WON THE LOST GAME HAD CAMPBELL BEEN IN THERE…AND P[OSSIBLY OTHERS IF HE STUCK WITH CAMPBELL LIKE AL DAVIS WANTED… GET RID OF HIM…HE’LL NEVER QUITE GET THERE… GET CHIP KELLY! PERFECT FOR RAIDERS…

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