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Raiders could be looking for punter

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, December 20th, 2010 at 3:29 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Updates following coach Tom Cable’s weekly Monday briefing with the Bay Area media:

— The Raiders could be bringing in a punter for insurance after Shane Lechler strained a hamstring against the Broncos.

“We’ll have to decide pretty quick how we want to attack this,’’ Cable said. “(We’ll have to determine) the severity and what his workload can be, if anything. Once you answer those things, it can give you some direction on what needs to happen.’’

Lechler gave way to Sebastian Janikowski for a punt late in the first half and the fortunate result was Syd’Quan Thompson fumbling the 33-yard line drive and setting Oakland up for a field goal to tie the game.

He returned to punt in the second half.

“He went in at halftime and did some work on it and he was able to go the rest of the game, so it’s a matter of what is the extent of the injury,’’ Cable said. “They’re doing an MRI and all those things today.’’

The Raiders extra kicker during training camp was Swayze Waters, who punted 10 times in the preseason for a 46.6 average with two touchbacks, two punts inside the 20 and a long of 53 yards.

Glenn Pakulak, a left-footed punter who has been on the practice squad and occasionally has a “tryout’’ when the Raiders are preparing to face a left-footed punter, is a possiblility.

Cable said he thought Lechler would be OK to be the holder on place kicks if he couldn’t punt.

— Cable said right tackle Langston Walker had started his concussion protocol and will have to go through the process and be cleared to play against Indinapolis. He said defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring), like Lechler, would be “questionable’’ at this point.

Cable said cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha’s ankle is better today than either of the last two Mondays.

More Cable observations:

Deciding to turn up the intensity at halftime

“It’s really where your team is. How you feel about your team and what you see going on . . . (We) just needed to change the focus of where we were at.’’

The performance of right tackle Mario Henderson

“There’s another guy who was prepared. He went in there and I thought he was a little slow at first, and after about three or four plays, he just got into it and did a really nice job.’’

Sebastian Janikowski’s 6-for-31 touchback rate in the last six games

“With our personnel on our kickoff team, we’re kicking a little bit more directionally, maybe than in the past. Weather, obviously has had a lot to do with that. It depends on the situation.’’

Staying away from pondering `What if . . . ‘

“You do that naturally. It’s human nature. What if you made this kick? What if you scored this touchdown? What if you got this stop? What if? What if? The bottom line is we didn’t and we’re 7-7. We’ve got to find a way to beat Indianapolis this weekend, and hopefully, get some help. Then, if it’s supposed to be, we’ll go to Kansas City and play for it.’’

Preparing for Peyton Manning

“It’s a challenge, no question. But we’re a challenge for him, too. We have to look at it that way. As long as we play the way we’re capable of playing I think it will be a heck of a game.’’

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  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    Hunter Smith is available!

  • Just Fire Baby

    McClain will get a crash course this weekend in the chess game, which will only help him in the long-run.

    He may knock out one of their spindly WR’s running all those crossing routes as well.

  • McRaider5150

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Mistic, is Campbell good enough at reading blitzes and hot routes to be a Super Bowl winning quarterback? You said he was good yesterday. That wasn’t the question. Yesterday wasn’t the Super Bowl. Yesterday wasn’t even the playoffs. In fact, yesterday was a game against one of the worst teams in the league.

    McRaider answered. He said no. He said Campbell is no Vick or Manning. Do you disagree with him?
    ———————————
    To make sure I am clear here. I think JC can read blitz well enough to win the SB. Does he have faith that his and WR’s will also make adjustments in their routes, no. That could change with time.

    and again, Vick, Brees, and Manning are not the only QB’s that can win the SB, that should be pretty obvious.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    gotta go Campbell haters, just remeber to to take it to the bank when i tell you a qb can play. JC included.

  • J Hill

    McClain will get a crash course this weekend in the chess game

    —————————————————–

    I’m a big believer in the “chess game” part of the game, JFB.

    Good to see someone else has picked up on that.

  • http://blackhillsphoto.com/sturgis-weddings/black-hills-weddings.jpg Dakota

    Hopefully assistant coach Greg Biekert will be able to call out Mannings plays right before the snap like he did back in the day!

  • J Hill

    A real OC would take advantage of JC mobility and call a few more roll outs and bootlegs.

    What happened to that Pistol formation, and why did we never throw out of it.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I think Campbell is better rolling out ad-libing than on a bootleg.

    Can’t remember many successful plays for him when on a designed bootleg pass, other than the highly succesful naked bootleg runs.

    His mobility in the pocket and shiftiness is great for his check-down game. By the time he moves around and checks down, DHB is 75 yards down the field with his defender.

  • hwnrdr

    Hasn’t Swayze Waters sign with someone?

  • Just Fire Baby

    I am trying to find a stat on his QB rating out of the pocket but not having any luck….

  • McRaider5150

    hwnrdr Says:

    Funny is that when asked about the td pass to Reese yesterday, Campbell said he was only worried about missing him since he was so wide open…
    Worried about missing him? JC did good yesterday, but that statement scares me because he “missed” quite a few yesterday also…but at least he knows it! Ja Dumbo still doesn’t get why he was benched for Bruce last year!
    —————————–
    Almost any QB in that situation is thinking the same thing. For a QB and a WR, the wide open plays are the one you fear the most.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Raiders do have the 3rd most 40 yard passing plays this season with 12.

    Campbell with 8 Bruce with 4.

    Al Davis must love it.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    McRaider5150 Says:
    December 20th, 2010 at 3:25 pm

    If you are talking about winning a SB, I say yes he can

    ………….

    Really?

    2009 SB winning QB: Drew Brees – good as anyone at picking up blitzes.

    2008: Big Ben. Good as anyone

    2007: Eli. Good as anyone

    2006: Peyton. Possibly the best

    2005: Big Ben

    2004: Brady. Good as anyone at picking up blitz.

    2003: Brady

    2002: Brad Johnson -now, here might be a QB as bad as Campbell, but his team also had the best defense in football. All he had to do was move the chains.

    2001: Brady

    2000: Another lousy QB, Dilfer. But like Tampa, had a all time great defense.

    1999: Kurt Warner. Good as anyone at picking up blitz

    1998: Elway. Good as anyone.

    1997: Elway.

    1996: Favre. Good as anyone.

    1995: Aikman. Good as anyone.

    1994: Steve Young. Good as anyone.

    1993: Aikman

    1992: Aikman

    1991: Rypien? He might have sucked like Campbell. Had a pretty good defense if I recall.

    1990: Hostetler? I don’t remember how good he was at picking up the blitz. I recall him being an improvement in that department when he came here. But, anyway, he also had a great defense with NY Giants.

    1989: Joe Montana. Good as anyone.

    1988: Joe Montana.

    1987: Doug Williams. Good as anyone

    1986: Phil Simms. Good as anyone.

    1985: McMahon. Kind of a bonehead, yet, again, GREAT defense. One of the best in history.

    1984: Montana

    1983: Plunkett. Good as anyone. Don’t be fooled by Al’s mythology of Plunkett being nothing more than an arm. Plunkett’s one of the best QB’s at reading and exploiting defenses going back to his days at Stanford.

    1982: Theisman. Good as anyone.

    1981: Joe Montana

    1980: Plunkett

    1979: Terry Bradshaw. Good as anyone

    1978: Bradshaw.

    1977: Staubach. Good as anyone.

    1976: Stabler. Good as anyone.

    1975: Bradshaw

    1974: Bradshaw

    1973: Griese. Good as anyone.

    1972: Griese. Good as anyone.

    1971: Staubach

    1970: Unitas/Morall. both as good as anyone

    1969: Len Dawson. Good as anyone.

    1968: I want to kiss you, Suzy Tolbert. Good as anyone.

    1966 and ‘67: Bart Starr. Good as anyone.

    So, basically you have McMahon, maybe hostetler, Rypien, and Brad Johnson, who weren’t great at reading defenses, yet had good defenses on their teams, and I mean great defenses.

    So, basically, according to HISTORY, the only way Campbell wins a Super Bowl with his inability to read defenses and his Fernando Valenzuela windup (fine if he’s a baseball player, but in football you have this thing called pass rushers and you have to get rid of the ball..) is if the Raiders assemble one of the greatest defenses in football. I don’t see that happening. So I don’t think Campbell is our answer at QB, either, if we plan on winning a Super Bowl.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Are they really going to play Brett Favre tonight?

    Can’t they/he just let Joe Webb have his day?

    If he plays, I hope they crack open his coconut on that hard turf.

  • SnB Production

    The offense is looking really good.

    Jhill, perhaps you can help us all with this QB vs. running game saving the day discussion.

    Question for you to research JHill with your TiVo….Is DMAC ripping these runs against 6, 7 or 8 man fronts?

  • ottocrat

    Raiders could be looking for punter
    ——————————————————

    Look for another placekicker while you’re at it.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Brad Johnson should be who Jason Campbell should want to be like.

    The great check-down, high completion % with underrated mobility.

    Check Brad’s stats that Super Bowl year. 22 TD to 6 int’s with a 65% completion and top 3 QB rating.

    It was his 12th year in the league however.

  • The Dirtee Raccoon

    93.J Hill Says:
    December 20th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    Don’t forget about Scott. That dude is a player too. We will need him going forward.

    He can play the run.
    He can play the pass.
    He can play OLB.
    He can play DE.
    +++++++++++++++++++

    Not on this planet.

    ———————————————————-

    Scott can’t play the run or OLB very well AT ALL. Situational pass rush guy at best.

    ************

    Scott “fits” this D. He is better as a backup. We need guys who can play multi posisitions. You don’t have to be an all star to make an impact!

    Scott is still very young and getting stronger. He was starting over ShoNasty before his injury.

    Just to make it clear I luv the way ShoNasty plays! He “fits” this D-line VERY well!

    Besides signing Seymore, the only tweek to the D-line this offseason should be drafting young depth in the later rounds!

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Vegas, I’m open to corrections on that list. I’m no historian. I’m just running down the list of SB QB’s and trying to remember for myself which QBs were solid at picking up the blitz. Seems like most QBs on that list were. And, evidently, some were better at it than I thought, as you pointed out.

  • The Dirtee Raccoon

    The Oakland Raiders defeated the Denver Broncos 39-23 Sunday at Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, putting them on pace to do something they haven’t done since the strike-shortened 1982 season — go undefeated in their division. In 1982, the Raiders were 5-0 and played only San Diego twice that year, but if they are able to beat Kansas City at Arrowhead Stadium on the final day of the regular season, it will be the first time Oakland has gone undefeated in the AFC West since the ’76 season.

    *************

    The RAIDER’s beat KC on the day I was born. I was born @ half time, the score was 17-0 RAIDERS!

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    You have to have a quick QB that can pick up the blitz, read hot routes, and get rid of the football. A QB is basically an offensive coordinator, too. All good teams have an OC/QB relationship that’s bendable. The QB almost always has freedom to change the play if he sees a defense he likes. I honestly don’t think Jason Campbell even knows how to do that. He just gets the play in, calls it in the huddle, and then craps his pants at the line of scrimmage. Unless he’s playing scrubs like Denver.

  • SnB Production

    Tell TerripinRaider…his coach at Univ. of the Rawest Athletes (read Maryland) just got fired

  • The Dirtee Raccoon

    Safety Mike Mitchell reinforced that after the game in the locker room. “We’re trying to run the west to prove a point man,” Mitchell began. “We run the west. This is our division now, so I hope I’m not being too cocky or too forward, but that’s how our team feels. We run this [division] now.”

  • Plunketthead

    Bummer
    They took all the fun out of Suzy Kolber night

  • dbaz09

    With the amount of time Cable has spent with Mario Henderson it would be good to see him groomed for RT if he thinks that’s a good fit. Watching replays of that last drive against Jacksonville, the right side of the line collapsed due to Walker who looked completely gassed.

  • Just Fire Baby

    RMR,

    It was a fairly impressive list. And while Brad Johnson was no great QB, no suprise that they won the SB in his best year, which was a great year.

    That’s what we can hope from Campbell. Doubt he will ever be a great QB, as far as his career, but maybe we can get a great year or two out of him.

  • Carl Weathers

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 20th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
    Raiders do have the 3rd most 40 yard passing plays this season with 12.

    Campbell with 8 Bruce with 4.

    Al Davis must love it.
    **************
    Any idea how many we’ve given up??

    Didn’t we have a punter in preseason named ricky Scmitt?? He was pretty good.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Anyone get the attendance numbers from yesterday?

    Seemed like a decent crowd for our standards, looked like more than I expected.

  • ArmChair GM

    I’m happy for Jason Campbell to see the way he has bounced back this season…He seems like a good guy.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Brett Favre to start.

    Good f’n Gawd this guy is annoying!!!!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Agent George Dillon,

    We have given up 7 passing plays of 40+ yards, which puts us right in the middle of the league.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    44,000

  • CDERaider

    13. Good point.

    Most SB winners have HOF QB’s (or maybe they get to the HOF because of the SB’s :-) sans Plunkett or Snake of course). But, *all* of them got there because their team was good – Aikman, Young, Montana, Bradshaw, and others had *great* teams behind them. All those teams had great Olines and/or Great Defenses. Campbell will never be a Manning or Brady but he’s certainly good enough to be a McMahon, Dilfer, Johnson, Plunkett, Theisman, Rypien, DWilliams type that gets it done enough to go all the way.

    On the contrary, without a dominant Oline and dominant D – no matter how great the QB is, you almost have no chance to win the SB … Ask Dan Marino or Dan Fouts

  • M Lonetree

    CDERaider,

    #33 well conceived.

  • Carl Weathers

    George Dillon, one of my favourite flicks!

    What about big running plays?? Us vs. them…

  • hwnrdr

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 20th, 2010 at 4:08 pm

    Anyone get the attendance numbers from yesterday?

    Seemed like a decent crowd for our standards, looked like more than I expected.

    # KoolKell Says:
    December 20th, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    44,000

    It seemed a lot more than that, but I looked up and yeah…the 3rd decks were kinda half filled! It was loud like usual though!

  • Carl Weathers

    I hope Campbell can get over his early throws to our 7’5″ Jacoby Ford. I really like our chances Sunday running and pressuring Manning. Any word on bick dick’s injury?

  • Carl Weathers

    LMAO! *big*

  • JB

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 20th, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Are they really going to play Brett Favre tonight?

    Can’t they/he just let Joe Webb have his day?

    If he plays, I hope they crack open his coconut on that hard turf.
    **********************

    There’s absolutely no reason for the Vikings to start Fave. He’s history and won’t be in the league next year. The Vikings are out of the running for playoffs so why would they not want to see what available on there current roster for them next year? They need to see if the #2 & #3 QB can be next years starter. Playing Farve at this stage of the game is simply stupid. If that’s the HC’s idea then he really is interim. If it is the owner’s idea then the interim HC should let it be known that it’s not his idea & he’s just following instructions.

    You can’t fix stupid! Beauty is skin deep, ignorance is forever.

  • Carl Weathers

    CDE, Marino had a good line protecting him, at least I seem to remember hi mhaving time to always throw, it was the one dimensional offense that did him in IMO.

  • YoungAmerican

    Swayze Waters!

  • Carl Weathers

    Maybe Favre is playing because Webb isn’t ready. Plus it’s brutal weather out there and Favre is comfortable in the cold. Webb is from the South I believe… The interim coach needs W’s to have any hope at getting renewed as HC.

  • CDERaider

    Doesn’t matter that much in this one, if we’re punting – we’re losing. If we can’t possess the ball and score for most of the day and have 5 or less punts all day, it doesn’t matter how good the punter is, we will lose.

    Next week at KC is another matter – will likely be a lower scoring game in bad weather and punting is important for field position against a running team.

    So, get someone else in there for this week and let Lechler heal for KC.

    Week 16
    Raiders 31 Colts 24
    Titans 21 Chiefs 17
    Bengals 20 Chargers 19

    Week 17
    Raiders 20 Chiefs 17
    Chargers 24 Broncos 10

    Raiders take the division, host the Ravens, Round 1

    Go Raiders!

  • M Lonetree

    JB,

    it’s legends night for the Vikings. Joe Kapp could put on pads and outdo Joe Webb. They’re a lost cause team. So what if Brett plays? Webb nor Ramsey nor Tavaris (IR) are any kind of answer to any sort of question the Vikes want to ask.

  • CDERaider

    40. Agreed

    And their D was never really dominating during his tenure – the Steelers’ D was.. and the Niners were very good as well.

  • Carl Weathers

    Here’s an FYI regarding flex games…

    Any game being flexed into primetime would have to be done tomorrow at the latest. The Raiders/chefs game could be in primetime. It may not mean anything for the Raiders regasding playoffs but it could still carry implications for the chefs and SD. Either way they have to do it by tomorrow so there is a good chance it gets the done and the NFL prays for a chefs loss vs. Tenn.

  • DKnight007

    They should bring in Swayze!

    He did an admirable job in the preseason.

  • inonewordraider

    ArmChair GM Says:
    December 20th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    I’m happy for Jason Campbell to see the way he has bounced back this season…He seems like a good guy.

    He’s learning to go outside of his comfort zone which is good. On the pick he threw while being hit he normally would have tucked it in which would have been a better idea but I like the fact that he’s taking more risks. He’s more decisive with running it himself. Or the throw he threw away with Z Miller in the vicinity he did a good job of not taking the sack. Guys progressing with the rest of our team.

  • socalraider2408

    ALL I WANT FOR X-MAS IS KC TO LOSE TO THE TITANS, SD TO LOSE TO THE BUNGHOLES, AND FOR US TO BE A NIGHTMARE FOR MANNING IN THE BLACK HOLE. If we can make it to the playoffs anything can happen….WE GOTTA BELIEVE!!!

  • YoungAmerican

    Collie being out will help a bit… but I hope we don’t give up a career day to Blair White.