NFP: Raiders add punter to practice squad
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, December 21st, 2010 at 9:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The agent for punter Danny Baugher told the National Football Post his client was joining the practice squad of the Raiders.
Baugher led the UFL with a 44.6 yards per punt average and a 36.7 net for the two-time league champion Las Vegas Locomotives. Las Vegas is coached by Jim Fassel, the father of Raiders special teams coordinator John Fassel.
Baugher has been in the camps of the Bengals, Patriots, Falcons and Broncos.
Signing Baugher to the practice squad would enable the Raiders to get a look at him during practice as well as Lechler. If it was determined by the end of the week Lechler wouldn’t be able to punt, Baugher could be promoted to the 53-man roster.
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December 21st, 2010 at 9:20 pm
No Swayze? I’ve never been so disappointed in my life…
December 21st, 2010 at 9:20 pm
first
December 21st, 2010 at 9:34 pm
Not a big deal,even if he is activated.I’m in the minority and admit Lecher is a damn good punter,but if he is out it isn’t a big loss.He is just held in such high esteem because for years everyone else on the team was so mediocre he stood out.Seems whenever we really need him to get off a boomer,he doesn’t come through.Ray Guy he isn’t.
December 21st, 2010 at 9:36 pm
I too initially went back & forth on the value of JCambell and at time leaned towards Grads. But after Grads last game it was real obvious to me that he’s not durable nor proficient enough to be an NFL starting QB. He’s got some great attributes (i.e. leadership, energy, attitude, etc.) but his negatives far outweigh his positives. If he is resigned, which I do not think will happen, he will be a permanent back-up.
Now JC on the other hand started slow and made mistakes. He was obviously not in sync with our offense or players. BUT, over his last two games he’s made large positive strides in leading thos team to victory. If this progress continues he very well might be the QB we have been looking for. He seems to have a great attitude, better than average accuracy, can throw the long ball and does have touch. He mobile and lately has made excellent decisions in putting the ball away and running with it. Put a great O-line in front of him, Bush, DMac & Reece behind him, growth & improvement at the WR position and we have the makings of a very competitive team.
We still need to fix a couple of holes in the D and then we should be a threat to all who meet us. I definitely like the direction I see us traveling. Now let’s just send Peyton home with a L.
December 21st, 2010 at 9:40 pm
Also Lefty12 you will never find a single post where I said Gradkowski sucks like you read thousands saying that JC sucks.
You’ll never read a post where I said Grads couldn’t win for us because I know he can. I have also said I think he’s in the top few backup QB’s in the league and I still feel that way. I like him just not as a longterm answer is all.
But these guys hate JC to the bone, there isn’t a negative word I cvan thimnk of that they haven’t said about him. Including their favorite “DUMB” and slow thinker csan’t lead and can’t read defenses. Which is all bullcrap IMO………….no I just like to throw a few stones at them and see how they like it.
December 21st, 2010 at 9:48 pm
Priest
We already got rid of the dumb Slow thinker a.k.a. JaBustus at the start of the season. He screwed us up for 3-5 years.
Right now I’m on the JC bandwagon. I think we’ve only begun to see what he can do for us. Fix the O-line, maybe bring in a productive WR or just let the current WR’s age a bit, add a couple new players in the D and will give them all a run for their money.
I’m of a mind that Grads may not even get resigned unless it is dirt cheap. Our O is new to the players and coaches alike. Let’s give them all a little time to get in sync and see what develops.
December 21st, 2010 at 9:48 pm
I know,I know,but as I’ve said you shouldn’t let them get to you so much.We both feel the same about what many say and those that make some of the BS statements.A lot of those that make comments don’t know what day it is let alone what is going on with the team.That is why I like it here late in the day,it seems we can have better conversations.
December 21st, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Am I watching different games Campbell over throws a lot of passes and to me doesn’t seem like his touch passes is all that good. I just see so many passes that are overthrown and missed. I guess the only way he could change my mind is to be our starting qb next yr and take us to the playoffs and not have a 10.7 qb rating in any game. I don’t know maybe it’s cables fault for not sticking with him as are qb no matter what. But if Campbell can do that next yr I will bow down to all the Campbell supporters and say i was wrong. I believe to be a true raider fan you have to be one of there biggest critics to. Cause you should always want what’s best for them to succeed and I’m one of there biggest critics. Just my oppinion.
December 21st, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Priest, either you get paid 70k/year by the team, or you’re a lost cause.
December 21st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
JB,I’d like to see Grads back,but only with the understanding he is the back-up.To me,he is what you want in a back-up-change of pace,lack of 1st team reps not a problem,knows the off. inside and out,high energy,etc.With a solid starter and BG at #2,we could draft someone in the mid rounds and try and bring him along so he could be ready in a few years.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
JB,
Don’t be fooled into thinking this pattern of poor starts for campbell and horrible games is something new and that he’s suddenly turned a corner.
His entire career is like this- wildly inconsistent with almost certain ugly losses in tough venues.
He’s done well the last few weeks because we played two bad pass defenses in a row and ran for 200 yards on the Chargers in what amounted to a home game.
His games at Tennessee, in SF, in Pittsburgh, and vs a top Rams defense are NOT some aberration that he’s suddenly overcome. They are par for his career.
JC folds under pressure, which is why the Redskins had a better record in games he DIDN’T start.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:09 pm
He had pro bowlers at the o-line and rb position in Washington. Great players in santana moss and Chris Cooley. A top 15 defense.
And he won 40% of his games, while backups Mark Brunell and Todd Collins came in from the bench two seasons to rescue the team, win games, and make the playoffs.
There is a reason Campbell has gotten benched almost every single year of his career.
Think about it. Every single year he has about 4 or 5 atrocious games in tough venues.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 21st, 2010 at 10:02 pm
JB,
Don’t be fooled into thinking this pattern of poor starts for campbell and horrible games is something new and that he’s suddenly turned a corner.
His entire career is like this- wildly inconsistent with almost certain ugly losses in tough venues.
He’s done well the last few weeks because we played two bad pass defenses in a row and ran for 200 yards on the Chargers in what amounted to a home game.
His games at Tennessee, in SF, in Pittsburgh, and vs a top Rams defense are NOT some aberration that he’s suddenly overcome. They are par for his career.
JC folds under pressure, which is why the Redskins had a better record in games he DIDN’T start.
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well said
December 21st, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Bruce as a backup is fine. We can start Campbell, put Bruce in to clean up his mess, week after week. It won’t get you to the Super Bowl, but it’s the best you can do when your GM is 81 and thinks Jason Campbell is Jim Plunkett.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:12 pm
There is no doubt that Grads really helped us in a pinch when the fans desparately wanted someone to believe in. He has that ability to go in and revv things up and get a win. That is HUGE IMO guys that have that ability can make a difference in a season. But we have to have a clear cut starter for stability purposes. It’s paramount for the overall cohesion of your team. Because timing on routes is milliseconds and if you’re off and do not have that timing the passing game suffers. The confidence in your rec’s is critical to “let it go” or cut it loose. If you notice he does that with Ford or Zack. Other than that he checks it down a lot it is still not there with Murphy. Zack and DMC should have almost twice the rec’s they have now. I think Ford has Desean Jackson type talent he just makes tremendous plays that give this team incredible confidence. That reverse for a TD to open the game was HUGE. THere is no way any defense can ignore him no matter where he is except the sideline. If mUrphy could run cleaner routes and WHERE the hell is CHAZ???? he’s MIA damn what is it with that kid?? We will need him in this game he better show up big………..period
December 21st, 2010 at 10:14 pm
BTW, if our QB depth chart goes 1) Campbell, 2) Gradkowski next year, I will root AGAINST Campbell. I will pray for him to get his wishbone cracked. Why not? When we have a better QB sitting on the bench. Give me all the sappy “you’re not a real fan” guilt trips all you want. Look in the yellow pages and see if you’ll find a lawyer that will sue me for this.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Most of those Pro-bowlers in Washington wouldn’t be PBs if they played for a western team or a team that wasn’t in the NFC East.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:23 pm
# lefty12 Says:
December 21st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
JB,I’d like to see Grads back,but only with the understanding he is the back-up.To me,he is what you want in a back-up-change of pace,lack of 1st team reps not a problem,knows the off. inside and out,high energy,etc.With a solid starter and BG at #2,we could draft someone in the mid rounds and try and bring him along so he could be ready in a few years.
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Couldn’t agree more.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:26 pm
It’s wiser to keep your mouth closed and let people think you’re a fool than open it and remove all doubt.
AIG you are a whinny crybaby who got punked by the guy you said would prove to be a fraud…………now at least show some dignity and shut up.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:34 pm
If you expect ANY QB to come to this team and shine on day one or even day 30, chances are you are going to be disappointed. Over the last 40 some years I’ve seen an awful lot of also-rans come to Oakland and do very well.
JC has to be given an adequate amount of time to get in sync with his new teammates. Like someone else here said, everything is a matter of timing between the QB & receivers. Give most of our WR’s are newbies is it surprising that patterns aren’t perfect nor is timing? Give JC time to become familiar with his receivers, where they can run precise routes and catch the ball when it hits them in the hands. His success and leadership will grow with time. Gannon didn’t walk in here day 1 and knock them all dead. Neither did Plunkett nor Stabler. JC has the tools necessary to be successful. I don’t care about his time at Washington. They are more screwed up organization-wise than we are. Keep a positive thought and I feel JC will not disappoint.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Bruce owski stats vs steelers in 2009
20-33 for 308 yds
3 td’s no picks
121.8 qb rating
Campbell stats vs steelers in 2010
7-19 for 70 yds
0 td’s 1 pick
26.2 qb rating
Enough for me
December 21st, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Jmcclain, how was the running game in both of those games? And that really isn’t a far comparrison, Bruce’s best vs one of Campbell’s worst games. That was a great performance by Bruce though and one of the reasons I was a big supporter of him
December 21st, 2010 at 10:47 pm
all the haters should know campbell is going to be the face of the franchise, for the next few years barring death or injury.. so maybe they’ll find another blog to hate on and let us enjoy the ride in peace..
December 21st, 2010 at 10:53 pm
JB,
He was given 5 years with the Redskins and went 4-12 last year.
Career 40% winner. No QB does that in their career and then turns it around.
None.
Look what Rex Grossman did despite it being his first start in Washington last week.
Look what Matt Flynn did despite his first start. Kid showed more field awareness, ability to look off safeties, shoulder fakes, and touch on his passes than Campbell has in 6 years.
Lefty, are you really calling the NFC East some pansy division?
Those pro bowlers that Brunell and Collins won with and Jason lost with were legit.
Portis, Jon Jansen, Moss, Cooley, London Fletcher, Sean Taylor. Come on.
Stop making Campbell more than what 6 years have proven he is.
A guy who can’t beat tough teams even half the time.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Only reason I brought that game up was cause I think that’s what made raider fans like owski so much after last yr. Like me I was like ya looks like we have are starting qb this yr. Plus it was what they did against an elite team. I know steelers had a weird yr last yr butt it’s still the steelers. It’s just a game that made me atleast become a owski fan.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Jmcclain no one is saying don’t have your favorites because we all have our favorites. All i’m saying is just because you do to do to disparage another player who’s not your favorite is a bit childish. My favorite HB is Bush but I’m not stupid enopugh to say that DMC stinks or nitpik his game. He’s a flat out baller I just prefer big backs with skills. But DMC is the better back no question. I also think TK is a great DT every body would probablt disagree. WE have people who think Nnamdi is overrated as silly as that sounds that’s personal opinion. Nothing wrong with it. But to say someone SUCKS because you prefer the other guy is childish IMO.
There are people that still think our center sucks and he’s quietly having a very good season. Try telling that most of the people in here tho.
December 21st, 2010 at 10:58 pm
“I don’t care what he did in Wash.”-totally agree with that.I only care about what a player does on our team.To me,R.(scumbag)Moss will always be a scumbag because of what he did or should I say didn’t do while he was a Raider.Besides,many athletes don’t hit their peak until around 30 and that is where JC is now,so lets hope the best is yet to come.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:00 pm
The Colts cover 2 defense will limit the dump off passes. JC will be pressured. if he has a sub par game, please remember its what his 70-game career is full of, and it would be his 5th bad game
December 21st, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Lefty, can you name some QBs this decade who took 7 seasons to be good to great?
December 21st, 2010 at 11:03 pm
JASON CAMPBELL WILL NOT ONLY BE THE STARTER, HE’LL BE THE FACE OF THE FRANCHISE,, PRINT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ON YOUR WAY OUT
December 21st, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Another hater hoping he has a bad game so they can be right. What if he has a good game then what does that say?? let him play out the season and we’ll all see for ourselves what he is then you wont have to try to tell us………….period
December 21st, 2010 at 11:05 pm
Alex,I’m saying it’s an over-rated division because it has 4 of the oldest,largest market teams that are on the east coast and everyone knows east coast teams have media bias towards them.If you are good on the east coast they call you great.If you are great on the west coast,they call you good.Why do you think Dallas insisted on staying in that division when they reorganized-media coverage.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:06 pm
21.jmcclain Says:
December 21st, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Bruce owski stats vs steelers in 2009
20-33 for 308 yds
3 td’s no picks
121.8 qb rating
Campbell stats vs steelers in 2010
7-19 for 70 yds
0 td’s 1 pick
26.2 qb rating
Enough for me
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The difference? POLOMALU. Say what u want about one player not making a big difference but Pittsburgh is barely over .500 in games in which he hasn’t played the past few years.
He does have that big of an effect on that defense and Polamalu was not playing when Grads played Pitt. last yr.
It doesn’t take away from what a glorious victory it was.. for me anyway.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:09 pm
M.Vick.He was a great athlete before,now Reid has turned him into a great QB.S.Young last decade.Part of the problem is guys aren’t given the time now-a-days.If they don’t preform right away,they are dumped or considered busts.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Media coverage or no, are the Giants, Eagles, and Cowboys consistent playoff teams because they’re really good and win many non-division games, or because the media grants them stats and victories? Those players put up outstanding stats for pro bowl berths. Those players (Portis, Moss, Fletcher) were also good on the other teams they’ve been on.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:13 pm
Priest::::::Campbell to me is not the answer. If I believe owski is a good qb and Campbell is not doesn’t mean I’m childish. If Campbell is such a good qb then why did the redskins get rid of him. No team in there right mind is gonna get rid of a good qb. So there is a reason they traded him to us. Qb’s are so hard to find right know they would have kept him if he is as good as some people think on this blog. Do agree with you on Kelly though.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:15 pm
I think there are a going to be a couple of interesting free agent receivers that the Raiders should consider. Santana Moss and Steve Smith(Panthers) are most likely going to be available depending on the CBA.Who would fit best? I know AL would like Steve Smith because of the speed factor but Santana Moss has a relationship with Campbell and proably would be less money.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Facts, Steve Young played a whopping 2 years before going to San Francisco and promptly putting up a 10-0 TD to INT ratio and winning 7 of his first 9 starts in the following seasons.
greatness really quick.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Steve Young was traded Joe Montana was traded, Cutler traded McNabb traded. so on and so on it happens.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:20 pm
vick is in his fifth ,FIFTH, starting season and has already made 3 pro bowls.
NO ONE takes 7 years to finally look really good.
Those are facts, guys.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Many players put up equal or better numbers every year and don’t make the PB.If you don’t know that where you play is just as important or more important you are pretty naive.As far as the division goes,you don’t have to agree with my opinion,but you won’t change it.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Gannon did so did Steve Young and he’s in the HOF!!
December 21st, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
December 21st, 2010 at 11:06 pm
21.jmcclain Says:
December 21st, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Bruce owski stats vs steelers in 2009
20-33 for 308 yds
3 td’s no picks
121.8 qb rating
Campbell stats vs steelers in 2010
7-19 for 70 yds
0 td’s 1 pick
26.2 qb rating
Enough for me
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The difference? POLOMALU. Say what u want about one player not making a big difference but Pittsburgh is barely over .500 in games in which he hasn’t played the past few years.
He does have that big of an effect on that defense and Polamalu was not playing when Grads played Pitt. last yr.
It doesn’t take away from what a glorious victory it was.. for me anyway.
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I can buy that a little but owski was unstopable that game. Maybe owski would of only had 250 yd’s passing with polamalu in there instead of 308 yd’s and ya what a great game that was one of my favorites in recent memory.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Steve Young was drafted and played for TB before he became a whiner-FACT.
Vick was a great athlete but not a great QB and was out of the league for 2 years where he matured quite a bit-FACT.BTW,this is his 8th year in the league.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 21st, 2010 at 11:20 pm
vick is in his fifth ,FIFTH, starting season and has already made 3 pro bowls.
NO ONE takes 7 years to finally look really good.
Those are facts, guys.
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unless ur rich Gannon best raider Qb in yrs
December 21st, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Priestt, you do realize all those good quarterbacks had winning records early in their career, right?
pretty sure montana left the niners as a free agent. cutler was traded for 2 first round picks and a quarterback. that’s a lot different than for a future fourth rounder
again all the evidence shows that we know who a quarterback is by the time he has started 5 seasons.
Stick with facts instead of hoping something changes just because he’s on our team.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Jason Campbell reminds me a lot of Doug Williams who also took several years before he really put it all together and went to a SB in his early 30’s with the Redskins. Many players expecially QB’s can take until their lkate 20’s to put it all together. It happens all the time.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:28 pm
alex7,,steve young played two or three years in the usfl before coming to the niners and then he sat more years behind montana. he inherited a super bowl team and the greatest wide receiver in the history of the game. a poor exzmple to use, you should check your “facts” a little more carefully
December 21st, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Steve young also sat behind Montana for 4 years.2 years in the USFL,2 years in TB,4 years on the bench behind Montana.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:30 pm
Lefty, 2 years in tampa bay just too he was kicking butt by his third year.
Vick put up 16 TDs 8 interceptions his first full season.
He has started 5 years! Pro bowl in 4 of them.
Campbell is on 6 starting years. None even close to pro bowl level or impressive record.
Facts show that after 5 years of starting you know who a quarterback is.
NONE of them change
December 21st, 2010 at 11:33 pm
R8er, if you’ve been reading you will see that I did not bring up steve young.
I have still not been shown a SINGLE quarterback in the last two decades that took more than 5 years starting to become really good.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:34 pm
Dude no one is comparing Campbell to Mike Vick……lol we’re saying he has every chance to be very good even great who knows?
To say he has no chance is very very very naive……….period
December 21st, 2010 at 11:35 pm
Your problem is you think the world was invented in the last ten years.Throughout the history of the game many QBs didn’t mature until later in their careers.Steve young never ‘kicked butt’ in TB.His record in TB was 3-16.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:37 pm
Lefty, if you didn’t see talent as soon as Young put up 10 TDs and 0 ints his FIRST year in SF, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Again, by your 5th year starting you are what your record and stats say you are.
Jason is finishing his sixth.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Again-Steve Young-2 yrs in the useful;2 terrible years in TB(3-16 record as a starter);4 years on the bench behind Montana.You are correct,it didn’t take him 5 years,it took him 8 years.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Priestt, read up. I am not bringing up Vick.
I am still waiting to see these QBs listed that took 5 or more years starting before finally becoming good or great.
THEY brought up Vick and Young even though they were winning and putting up impressive #s within a few years of starting in the NFL.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Goodness Lefty, he started 3 games his first year in san francisco 3 more the next year and was already kicking butt those first 2 years.
why are you ignoring those starts?
you are talking total years I’m talking starting years being that Jason has had 6 of those and shown nothing special.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:47 pm
3-16 his first 2 years as a starter in the NFL.When he went to a great team,he became a good QB.If he had played 5 years in TB he would have been terrible.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:49 pm
I will repeat this simple fact and go to bed.
We can’t think of a single QB in the last 20 years who suddenly improved to really good in his seventh year. Yet you’re hoping Jason is that guy, just because he plays for your team.
After 70 starts, you are who you are, even if that’s a lifetime losing record.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Priest and Lefty, you guys are the reason Raider fans get made fun of everywhere.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Priest,
Wow Priest, now you are JC’s biggest fan? You effin bounce back and forth between asking whether JC is the real deal or not. Are you on record to say he is the REAL DEAL? YES OR NO
I will cut and paste your answer for future refs. Put up or shut up biatch!!!
I stand 100% behind my analysis that JaPanic is a effin Fruad. Do you dare to show me 1 effin game this season that he carried us when our D or ground game didnt show up? Shouldnt the STARTING QB be able to carry the team at least 1 time in the season? How did he do in Jax for the 2 min drill to carry our team?
So what will it be? Do you dare state on here that JC is the real deal? So far you’ve refused to make that statement but continually call the JC haters out. What’s the answer Priest?
December 21st, 2010 at 11:53 pm
Lefty, speculate all you want on what would have happened. I will stick to facts.
Campbell would be the first QB any of us can think of in 25 years that suddenly improved after starting 5 or 6 years and being below average, having a lifetime losing record, or both.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:54 pm
BTW, I was there at the effin game last week and I dare you to show me how he carried the team last week. It wasnt until the 4th qtr that Reece and DMAC rescued his a$$ from another 10 point QB rating again. Do you even know how many yds he got through 3 qtrs vs ints?
December 21st, 2010 at 11:54 pm
No,that would be you.Nite all.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:54 pm
Campbell sucks and I dare any of you to show me proof that he doesnt suck!
December 21st, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Campbell is who he is to think he is gonna become good are decent is wishfull thinking. The flaws this man has can’t be coached it’s the way he’s gonna be period. Can’t read defenses, slow decision making in the pocket, overthrows everybody, but the most important one he gets to nervous after as many yrs he’s been starting he just shouldn’t be that nervous. If no one can see that then ya need to look harder. What happens to nervous qb’s they make to many mistakes and to my point as much experience as he has he just shouldn’t be.
December 21st, 2010 at 11:55 pm
But Aig, don’t you see this long list of QBs they have listed that suddenly figured it out after 80 starts?
Campbell will be consistent next year and beat all historical evidence!! Just you wait!
December 21st, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Before you call me out Priest, make sure you stand behind JC 100%. Man up if you gonna call me out Jerk!
December 21st, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Jm, his own coaches admitted the pressure got to him in Pittsburgh. Poor poor little baby Campbell. Oh wait, he’s a near 30-year old veteran. He will change someday I tell you!
December 21st, 2010 at 11:59 pm
A7,
You know where I stand on JC. You look at his career and this year is no effin different. Because of DMAC and the D, all the sudden people act like he’s been winning games for us and that it was a travesty he got benched.
WTF was he when Niner fans laughed at us? Many of these JC effers on this blog were wondering why JaPanic wasnt benched sooner in the Pitt game and then now they all have amnesia.
JC, Routt, MeAngelo Hall are typical guys that effin gets by via dumbluck. I dare anyone to show me one game where JC carried the team this season.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:00 am
Look,Alex,if Young had played 6 years in TB he would have had a terrible record.He went to a great team with a great coach and became a good QB.You can call it speculation,but what made his career was going from a terrible team to a great one.I’m not saying JC will turn into another Young,but the change in scenery might able him to become a good QB,just like it did for Young-like I said-might.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:06 am
Aig——-
it’s impossible for them to find a game where campbell carried this team. Dmac and ford have carried this team in there back all yr. Don’t make it to hard on them Campbell supporters.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:08 am
aig you wouldn’t accept it..you are convinced..
campbell is going to be the raiders quarterback for the next few years. is all i’m saying. it seems that you can’t handle that. i don’t know who you like at qb.. he is not a raider apparently. that’s cool, i think you should go to his blog and spout your venom about campbell, maybe someone there will listen.. imo
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:11 am
what other qb has carried us this year? why the fugg is there still a debate over this qb sh!t? campbell aint great but average until proven otherwise. grads aint sh!t but a spark plug backup until proven otherwise. we need to draft a young qb within the next 2 years and build this team around jc and see if he can get better. im disappointed that the defense didnt dominate more like we expected. if the d wouldve been consistent and made more impact plays we would have at least 2 more wins.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
hey, i was wondering whatever happened to “the great gradkowski raider” someone said he crawled back in his hole.. is that true??? lol
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:13 am
Why should I be able to handle that? If AD decides to make sure Routt, DHB and JaPanic are all starters for the next few years, why should I accept that? Why should I accept that Jawalrus didnt put in the efforts but AD insisted on starting him? Why should I accept that AD insisted that James Jett was our next Cliff Branch and he should start? Or James Trapp? Or keeping Sam Williams? Or wasting our cap on Wilson and MeAngelo Hall?
Should I jsut bend over and accept those stupid moves as a fan?
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:15 am
For the record,
Grad outplayed JaPanic in each game that they played together….preseason SF, Tenn, and Pitt.
Grads’ worst game was a 60.7 rating. JC’s worst game was a 10.7 rating.
Grad at least 2 occasions was bringing us back or putting us in a position to win the game in the 2 minute drive.
How did JaPanic do in his 2 minute drive and moment of truth? That’s right. He didnt even bother to give a chance with 11 secs left 40 yds to go and no timeouts. He decided to checkoff. That’s 6 years of veteran leadership for you. Please excuse my sarcasm!
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:16 am
Lefty,
Campbell WAS on a good team. That team sent to the playoffs twice!
Unfortunately it was only after he got benched and Brunell and Collins were able to win with the talent Jason wasted.
If Jason HAD a PLAYOFF team already in Washington and couldn’t win with them for six six six years, why would he suddenly win here next year when we have an actual tough schedule? Look what he did in our games vs tough defenses. He went 1 and 4.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:17 am
Lefty and Preist will call Campbell a good QB until Al lets him go. Then they’ll say the same things about him everyone else is.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:20 am
I’d be happy to accept that JC can be like Young. But show me this year where JC has improved. People points out to the W/L but imo W/L are really for coaches. The coach is responsible for all 3 phases of the game. JC is responsible for only 1 phase. Can you actually show me that he has improved our passing game? His last game as atrocious. 2 ints and 30 yds passing at halftime. Japanic and Tebow kept the game close. We were lucky the Donks do what bad teams do….let us off the hook with those turnovers.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:20 am
Typical childish response”don’t make it to hard on them Campbell supporters”.It isn’t about liking or disliking JC.He is the QB of the team you support.He will be the QB of said team.When he takes the field wearing a Raider uniform you would like to believe while he is playing he has the support of every fan of that team-in other words don’t you want him to do well so we can win?.That is the support I have for him.Some of you are constantly trying to make things us vs them.I thought we were all Raider fans,well most of us anyway.As I told AIG yesterday,I root for the uniform,even if I don’t like an individual.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:20 am
# r8rwill Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
hey, i was wondering whatever happened to “the great gradkowski raider” someone said he crawled back in his hole.. is that true??? lol
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I know you’re slow, but that was me, and I admitted it was me. You just go to your settings, type in a nickname, then select the nickname. it wasn’t a covert scheme by any means. but if you want to think you cracked some code, go ahead. You already think Al Davis is a good GM and that Jason Campbell is the next Jim Plunkett, so your imagination knows no bounds.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:21 am
Armond, the D was fine vs SF but our QB choked for the 3rd time in his first 5 starts.
No one is debating starters here, just showing that all evidence proves QBs don’t suddenly improve after six years of starts.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:23 am
Lefty, I hope Campbell gets his back broken. That’s how much I’m rooting for him. Let’s face it, we have a lunatic GM who’s forcing his will on the coaching staff. We’d probably be 2 games better and playoff shoe ins if Campbell had just been cut. Campbell gets no support from me. I want to win, not support some lousy QB who Al and his loyalists just want to see succeed.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:27 am
Shouldnt you want a starting QB to actually have the capability of carrying this team when needed? Why are we settling for someone who needs both our D and ground game for us to have a chance to win the game?
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:29 am
campbell helped us win the sd in oakland didnt he? jc will be here next year and we better just improve the team around him to help him out. i would like a probowl qb but we aint gettin 1. this qb issue is just pointless to keep arguing over. what about the damn defense under performing this year? they have lost us a few games as well. jc didnt lose the game against jax.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:30 am
Just like I have no say over the way the owner absurdly runs the team,i have no say over who the QB is going to be.Therefore,just as I support the team,I support the Qb the team puts out there as long as he is wearing the Silver and Black uniform.If that makes me a JC supporter,so be it.But if you ever read what people say,you’d have known after the Mia. game I said we may as well start Boller because we don’t have an NFL caliber starting QB on the team.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:31 am
Lefty,
I was at the game. The fans around me and I never booed JC. Excuse us if we get nervous when JC attempts a pass. Even my buddy who is a hardcore JC fan, was sweating it when JC was missing every where. I was once a supporter and backer of the great Jawalrus too. I dont do blind support. If the guy earns it, I will call it. If the guy sucks, I will call it.
What I hate about JC is you never hear him accept responsibility for his actions. It is always aw shcucks we let one get by or it’s one of those days. Homie thought that the reason he got pulled in Pitt was because he was getting too many hits! JC is just like that chick Amarosa on Trump’s show.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:32 am
aig, for the record, campbells’ team beat the hell out of grads team last year, wasn’t even close. grads, as is his norm got hurt, missed the rest of the season.. that’s just for the record. spin it any way you want. jc is going to be the qb here for years,,get over it!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:35 am
JC sure didnt lose the game vs Jax but he should had a chance to be a hero. BUT he didnt even attempt to be a hero. That’s my problem with him.
One of JC’s myths this year is that he won the SD game. Excuse me if our spec team and D scored 18 out of the 31 points we scored. JC was gifted with a 12 points lead and he needed dumb luck of Loper to save one of those 2 TD drives. Sorry I am not buying it. The Qb scored 17 out of 31 points and we give him all the credit for winning that game. I’m not that generous. The closest game he came to doing decent this year was against Sea but we were never challenged in that game. We gave up 3 points.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:36 am
lefty12 Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:30 am
I support the Qb the team puts out there as long as he is wearing the Silver and Black uniform.
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Sure. Unless it’s Gradkowski. You’re such an idiot. Just shut up before I reach through the screen and slap you.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:37 am
Lefty——–
don’t question my loyalty to this team and I won’t question ur’s. I root for this team every weekend and ya as much as I don’t like Campbell I root for him to have a good game. No picks, good passes, etc. He would have to do more for me to feel safe with him. For me to want him to be are starter next yr would be excepting a backup qb as are starter. Sorry man I want better. I know we all want what’s good for this team. And IMO campbell is not that.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:38 am
Wow,
The skins had a 7th ranked D last year and how was our D last year. I believe we were in the 30th rank. Nice try.
How about we compare them in games where they go up against the same defense? I dare you to prove to me that he fared better when they went up against the same D from last year to this year?
1 game vs the Cowboys – Bruce got 10 points.
2 games vs the Cowboys – JC got 6 points (one was a donut).
For the record, let be known that when going up against the same D or with the same supporting cast, Grad has outplayed JC in 4 instances. How many can you point out for JC?
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:42 am
2009 skins vs Raiders
Bruce played 2 qtrs had 153 yds passing 10/18 attempts.
JC through 4 qtrs had 222 yds passing 16/28.
Bruce against a 7th ranked D.
JC against a 30th ranked D.
You call that a thrashing?
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:44 am
AIG,I know how you feel.But the constant complaining will do no good.Just like when some come here and biotch and moan about the old man over and over-it is fruitless.I don’t think JC is great,or even good,but I realize we are stuck with him and since we are,I hope for the best.I just want to win and enjoy the team.I’m not going to complain 24/7 about something I have absolutely no control over.My only alternative is to root for a different team and that won’t happen.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:45 am
Lefty,
No matter what the QB will be debated on here. I’ve been off this site much of the time while on vacation back to the Bay Area for the holidays and you guys still debate the QB. There is a reason why JC is still debated.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:46 am
rmr, most here scorn you, you give them good reason. i don’t scorn you, i find it hard to believe that anyone would spend as much time on this blog as you do.. i imagine that you are confined somehow and can’t get out in the real world. so this blog has become your world, and that is sad to me. mom would have described you as an “empty wagon”. i think you run your mouth for attention, the more posters disagree, the better you like it.. it’s a troll thing isn’t it??LMAO
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:46 am
aig your boy grads didnt carry us either. he had 4 different tds HE missed against arizona. he also fugged up at the goal line which gets overlooked. u wouid be all over jc had he done that. if grads was the man we wouldnt have needed jano to make that kick. the whole team fugged up to put themselves in this position. no qb has carried us without a run game or defense in years. its pointless to even go there.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:48 am
Jm-I didn’t question your loyalty,I just explained how I feel.If I wanted to question you,I would have worded my comment totally different.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:49 am
Face it guys, were stuck with Campbell, it could be lots worse.
After Mr Davis called him the 2nd conning of Plunkett were going to have him for the next 2-3 seasons. Face it and get on the band wagon.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:52 am
Dude,
How many bombs have JC missed this year? Let’s agree that they both have missed opportunities throughout the game. Howevever, I truly believe a good leader rises to the occasion. There are always moment of truth. If Jano makes that kick, we win the game. You know that to be 100% true. When needed at least Grad gave the team a chance to win the game. When needed JC didnt even attempt to do that. You know that to be 100% true as well. That’s where I dont buy the “JC is improving BS!”
BTW, I have been more than fair in my assessment. I have consistently called Grad out for his lousy performance against Miami.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:55 am
The only saving grace about JC I will credit is that he puts in his efforts. Sure we are stuck with him but it doesnt mean we have to be rah rah about it. If AD decided to keep Jawalrus as the starter, does that mean you would get on the bandwagon too?
I know in my heart JC cannot carry the team when needed. That is why I want AD to attempt to upgrade that position this offseason. We have one of the best D in the league and IMO the best ground game in the league. We deserve at least an attepmt to get better at the QB position.
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:59 am
jc did help us win the damn sd game and u know it. aig u just want to complain about the guy and have used black folks being homers as a way of attacking him. u have an agenda against the guy and wont let it go. its really pointless at this point. neither qb is a good qb until they prove it. grads is 0-3 as a starter. he didnt have a running game against mia and lost. had a decent running game against houston and lost. had a running game against arizona and lost. fugged up at the goal line and missed 4 tds and threw a int. he fugged up against pitt just like jc. what qb has carried us at all? jc has gotten better and i hope he does well enuff to get us to our future qb. thats all we can ask for as of now. btw i said when we traded for him that he needs to become a pro bowl caliber qb to make us a really good team. everyone said he just needs to be average and i never bought it. he has an opportunity to establish himself so he better do it.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:00 am
campbell= face of the franchise, haters suck..simple really…
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:03 am
show me where JC has gotten better? How did he do in his last game? If he got better, shouldnt you have something to back it up? I love all these proclamations but zero proof of it.
BTW, I am on record to say that a QBs’ W/L is overrated. But if you insist on W/L for the Qb, then I’d be more than happy to show you JC’s career W/L. You want to go there?
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:04 am
Nice debating with you all. Let’s all agree on this raiders DESTROY DEM COLTS. And Campbell show us what ya got if ya got it biggest game of the yr. Peace out nation.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:05 am
The fact is the key to this team is the Def. If they keep the game close we will have chances to win.When they let it get out of hand and we fall too far behind early we are done.What most don’t seem to understand,at least it seems this way,is that most teams are just like we are.Once things start to go bad that snowball gets rolling pretty fast.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:05 am
the great gradkowski’s future is not certain, campbell is going to be employed as a starting qb,, and you think grads is the better player? really?
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:07 am
I don’t think that is the debate,but that is what many try to make it.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 am
With one of the best pass rush in the league and the best RB in the league (imo), shouldnt JC basically locked down the QB position and allow those 2 areas to inflate his numbers? Nope.
He still lead the leauge in turnovers per pass attempts. And you guys think he improved?
Good nite.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:09 am
easy….Dont know if Grad is the answer to the QB position.
All I know is when he played against the same D that JC played against, he outplayed him in each of those 4 instances. 3 of them had the same exact supporting casts.
Easy enough for me. I dare you to show me proof otherwise.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:10 am
also aig dmc had 2 games this year where had under 15 yards rushing. a bad game is a bad game to me. some may be worse than others but im not into that 10 qb rating vs 55. if we lost both games it doesnt matter. i know jc has had better games to make up for that.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:13 am
lefty, i am not so sure the raiders can’t come from behind and win. in past years i would whole heartedly agree, but this season our o can put up numbers..and hold on to the ball..
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:18 am
I’m talking about getting down fairly big.In games that has happened this year we have been terrible but a lot of that is the Def not keeping us close.We’ve put up numbers when either we scored 1st and get up big or we are in a shootout where each team is going back and forth.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:18 am
compare jc NOW to the beginning of the year and he has improved. his record for this year is better than grads. what is grads record for his career since he is supposed to be better? jc does have the qb position locked down cuz if he didnt we would see boller and we saw him. do yall really wanna see boller again? u always wanna point to his career record when talking about this year. what has our record been the last few years? does that mean anything now that we are a better team? hell no so its pointless what he did somewhere else. what other qbs out there make sense for us to get? we arent getting fitz from buffalo and palmer is a double agent throwing pick 6’s. unless we get vick who will be available that is better? we are stuck with him so get use to it like i have. draft a youngin and hope HE is the right guy this time in a few years.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:19 am
I’m done-nite all.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:23 am
lefty u are saying what I’m talking about. our defense needs to be more consistent. they have let us down more than any player or unit on the team. they were supposed to be our strength. they havent shut teams down like we expected and didnt make enuff game changing plays. if they did we would be leading the division. our pass rush has been too hot n cold plus the # of big plays we still allow. I’m really disappointed they have underperformed so much.
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:23 am
peace
December 22nd, 2010 at 4:28 am
# armond Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 1:23 am
peace
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…love and understanding…
December 22nd, 2010 at 4:58 am
#36 if grad is such a good qb why did the bucs got rid of him
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:28 am
I am in 110% support of Tom Cable and Jason Campbell leading this team in 2011.
Let Tommy kill it with another stellar draft, and see what happens.
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:46 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:56 am
The negative comments I am hearing about Jason Campbell were the same sort of comments that I heard when the Raiders signed Jim Plunkett. Plunkett was drafted by the Patriots and they gave up on him. He went to the 49ers and they gave up on him. When Al Davis got Plunkett, people were saying why is the Raiders signing that bust, he is native american and can’t think, he was too slow, he couldn’t read defenses and he didn’t do anything with the other teams he was on. It was down right hatred. Al Davis never bowed down to none of that non-sense. Two Superbowls later some of these fair weather fans wanted to jump all on Jim Plunkett n*ts and it made me sick! What I am saying is give Jason Campbell a chance before you throw him away. Years later some of you would be saying we should have kept Campbell.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 am
GOOD DAY HWNRDR.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:03 am
I’m not willing to give Campbell years yet, but I will hand him the reigns in 2011 and see what happens.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:04 am
Morning JFB, Reggie, Dirt Lot…
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:09 am
I HOPE THERE IS A 2011 JFB.I JUST DONT TRUST UNIONS AND LAWYERS,HOPE I AM WRONG..
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:11 am
We just need to get Campbell out of this awful first half rut he seems to have.
Titans, Rams, Chiefs, Broncos, 49ers and Steelers.
Awful first halves in all of those, but in the Chiefs and Broncos case he turned around and played much better in the second half.
There is no easy upgrade, and I am willing to see if JC can win a division in 2011, and than we can take it from there.
Whatever we do, I want to see Tom Cable and his hawaiin shirts next year in the draft!!! What a draft this was this year.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:12 am
DLF,
There will be football in 2011, I am sure of it.
But training camp and preseason will be messed with, IMO.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:16 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:28 am
I am in 110% support of Tom Cable and Jason Campbell leading this team in 2011.
Let Tommy kill it with another stellar draft, and see what happens
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Just Fire: I can agree with that. I am not saying to give Campbell a long term deal but at least give him a full season with this coaching staff. I just get pissed at hoe some of the so called Raider fans keep hammering this guy and this is only his first year with the Raiders. The is only about five superstar quarterbacks in this league and the Raiders are not going to pry one away. Therefore, we need to keep working with what we have at least for 2011. Jay Cutler struggled his first year with the Chicago Bears and Matt Cassel struggled his first year with the Chiefs and their fans are not going after their heads.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:20 am
WAS JUMPING BACK & FOURTH BETWEEN FISHING CHANNEL AND PORN CHANNEL LAST NIGHT. WIFE FINALY SAID “HEY, STICK WITH THE PORN,U ALREADY KNOW HOW 2 FISH” ..!!!!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:23 am
I’m resigned to Campbell as the starter for next season. But looking at the available options out there…might as well stick with him and see what happens. Palmer? McNabb? No thanks. At this point in their careers, it’d be a lateral move and making a change for it’s own sake.
Kolb would cost a king’s ransom that we shouldn’t pay and frankly I’m not sold on the guy yet. Vick isn’t going anywhere. Raiders don’t have the pieces to trade up for one of the top flight QBs and if you want my honest opinion, Andrew Luck is the only 1st round projected QB I’d want to draft anyway.
So….basically we’re looking at Campbell for next year. If he closes the year strong, I’ll be fine with it if only because there’s nothing better out there.
I’m calling the Raiders depth chart next year like this:
1. Jason Campbell
2. Matt Leinart (Al won’t be able to help himself)
3. random castoff ala JT O’Sullivan or late round rookie
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:12 am
DLF,
There will be football in 2011, I am sure of it.
But training camp and preseason will be messed with, IMO.
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I think there will be an abbreviated season next year as well. Bet your sweet a$$ that they come to an agreement by October 1st though.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 am
The optimist in me hopes they’ll have an agreement in place by the Super Bowl, because they won’t want any dark clouds hanging over it.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:33 am
Grads will be a FA after the season. I see him ending up as the starter in one of the following, Minnesota, Phoenix or Cinn. He will get a multi-year deal. The Vikings would be the best fit as they have a good OL and Peterson.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:37 am
I see him ending up as the starter in one of the following, Minnesota, Phoenix or Cinn. He will get a multi-year deal.
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Dude, pass what you’re smokin’ this way.
I could see Grads getting a training camp invite to mulitple places. Lots of teams in need of a dependable backup. But a multi-year starters deal? No way. Not in a million years. I’ll eat a hat and a shoe.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:44 am
The Vikings would be the best fit as they have a good OL and Peterson.
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Their offensive line has been atrocious this year. Thats why Favre has gotten killed this year, and why TJax last exactly 1 half of 1 game. Bottom 10 oline in the NFL this year.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:54 am
I don’t know…I hope the stars don’t align this weekend and we blow it…that would suck! But anyways, happy for a good season!
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:59 am
Kudo’s to Rockstar for calling it on the Bears in the preseason!!!
And who needs an O-line!!!!
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thanks JFB!
way to mix in your own agenda at the end there. haha
good point though. Bears have given up the MOST sacks so far this year. Cutler & Forte are getting it done regardless
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:02 am
When Mn gets healthy for next year, their OL is a good one. The loss to injury of Herrera and Hutchinson ruined what had been a solid line. Kind of like losing Veldeer and Gallery and having to go back to matador Mario and a scrub.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:02 am
your only hope is to flee eastward and perhaps get a job in Podunk with Rockstar
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M,
Raider O has a job waiting for him in Podunk. He’s a numbers guy – like myself. I think he’s going to school to earn an accounting degree, so I could hook him up no problem. Jobs don’t pay a fraction of what he’d earn in Sandy Eggo, but the cost of living (housing especially) more than makes up for it!
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:13 am
Bottom 10 oline in the NFL this year.
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BCZ,
what happened to the Vikings OL?
center Matt Birk left for Baltimore in free agency. did he make ALL the difference ???
both starting guards Anthony Herrera & Steve Hutchinson were placed on I.R.
Sidney Rice was inactive until Nov 21st and even though he’s only missed 1 game, Percy Harvin has been playing the entire season with migraines
the injuries to Favre plus the NY scandal certainly haven’t helped the passing game there either …
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:14 am
Lakers fkn suck…what is going on?
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
Lakers fkn suck…what is going on?
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they are still 21-8 bro
the only teams with a better record are the Celtics, Spurs & Mavs!
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 am
Heat, Jazz & Thunder are about even with the L.A. Beaches
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:29 am
I will not be satisfied until the Lakers lose to the Kings, Clippers or Warriors. that would be hilarious!
losing to Memphis was embarrassing, but not suicide-watch level
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 am
138.hwnrdr Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:54 am
I don’t know…I hope the stars don’t align this weekend and we blow it…that would suck! But anyways, happy for a good season!
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Losing to Peyton Manning and the perennial winner Colts, especially when they’re fighting for a playoff spot is not blowing it, but losing to Arizona and San Fran and blowing a big second half lead to Jax with everything on the line IS.
If we win on Sunday everybody will be saying “What has happened to the Colts and Peyton Manning?” “How could they lose to the Raiders like this?”
KC loses, SD loses, Raiders win and we play for the division title next week in KC.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:34 am
Bad day for Kobe. Car accident on the way in to Staples Center, 1/2 hr. late to pregame, tossed from game, probably big fine for cussing at officials after getting ejected, losing.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 am
144.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 am
Lakers fkn suck…what is going on?
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they are still 21-8 bro
the only teams with a better record are the Celtics, Spurs & Mavs!
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You don’t get beat at home by the Bucks by 20 points and still consider yourselves serious contenders.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 am
TOM CABLE AS GM!! i must give due where due is deserved..
While Cable in charge we have been drafting wisely, 2 4th round picks I hated have become huge assets… Ford and Shonasty…
but I still dont like him as a coach, but I sure credit him for getting us up out of the hole we have been in.. getting rid of Cable will put us at a 3-4 win seasons again.. but I doubt if he ever will get us 10 wins… so hire him as GM and get another coach..
thats my 2 cents..
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 am
The league won’t allow Kobe to be suspended for the XMas day matchup w/ the Heat you can book that.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 am
HELLS BELLS!!!!
GO LAKERS!!!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 am
I havent been able to follow college football as I used to, so is there any great CB out there, able to play man-D?
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:38 am
Al came out right before the season and said he put the team together. Cable has about as much to do with the draft as he does calling plays. very little.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:38 am
Raider Dell Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 am
HELLS BELLS!!!!
GO LAKERS!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Dakota
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:40 am
Baugher led the UFL with a 44.6 yards per punt average and a 36.7 net for the two-time league champion Las Vegas Locomotives. Las Vegas is coached by Jim Fassel, the father of Raiders special teams coordinator John Fassel.
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promote this guy to the 53 and deactivate Shane Lechler. We’re gonna need him in the playoffs
he can have the roster spot of a few players as far as I’m concerned: O’Sullivan, Bennett, Nmiller, BCamp, Moss & Davis
none of these clowns contribute!
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:41 am
2 4th round picks I hated have become huge assets… Ford and Shonasty…
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ShoNasty was a 3rd rounder and he leads the team with 7 sacks!
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:41 am
That we should, I mean we have nothing to lose at this moment…and if we do get in…we need Lechler!
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:49 am
Al came out right before the season and said he put the team together. Cable has about as much to do with the draft as he does calling plays. very little.
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Cable has an important role here. to motivate & inspire. to make sure this team comes out focused and prepared. We’re as talented as any other team in the league and we have a 7-7 record, so I guess it’s fair to say he’s been hit or miss so far this season.
3 starts by Gradkowski (Houston, Arizona & Miami) could have been wins with JCamp. If McFadden is healthy enough to play against SF, that could be another win. If Ford doesn’t fumble or Boller doesn’t throw that INT, JAX could be another win.
7-9 or 8-8 is MUCH IMPROVED from where we’ve been the past 7 years, but Cable said that this team was over the hump and primed to make the playoffs. I’m sure Al Davis remembers that. it’ll take 8 wins for him to be retained, but he still wont have much respect from Al Davis. 500 is average and AD is about winning
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:54 am
if Walker is cleared to play against Indy, does anybody even want him out there against speed rushers Mathis and/or Freeney? I sure dont!
this guy is slower than molasses AND he just got his bell rung last week.
I’ll take Henderson or Barnes at RT please!
Barnes played against Indy 8 times during his 4 years with JAX … something to think about?
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:55 am
something I found on WIKI …
While in Jacksonville, Barnes earned the nickname of “Khawiff” due to his frequent missed blocks in the passing game, leading to sacks. Barnes played left tackle exclusively during his time in Jacksonville, where he typically had to face the opposing teams’ best pass rushers. His run-blocking, however, was typically very good.
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doesn’t this describe the ENTIRE O-Line ???
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:57 am
Hells Bells indeed Dell!
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 am
I wish I understood why there are so many pro and anti JC posts. He’s the starting qb. He isn’t a great qb but he’s the best qb on the roster. There’s been some non-great qb’s like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer who have won Super Bowls. A lot of other non-greats (Delhomme, Neil O’Donnell and too many others to mention) who have gone to Super Bowls.
If he isn’t the long term answer then draft someone next year to learn behind him. There are no “savior” free agenents out there. For right now, he’s our QB. Let’s get behind him.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:05 am
garcia Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 am
I wish I understood why there are so many pro and anti JC posts. He’s the starting qb. He isn’t a great qb but he’s the best qb on the roster. There’s been some non-great qb’s like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer who have won Super Bowls. A lot of other non-greats (Delhomme, Neil O’Donnell and too many others to mention) who have gone to Super Bowls.
If he isn’t the long term answer then draft someone next year to learn behind him. There are no “savior” free agenents out there. For right now, he’s our QB. Let’s get behind him.
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Garcia: Well said!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:05 am
Merry Xmas to BSJ: The Navy is buying 20 more Littoral Combat Ships… MAJOR boost to BSJ’s bidness…
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 am
LMN,
During the chat yesterday, I suggested to JerryMac that Cable should get “promoted to Asst G.M.” as a way to get HJ to stay as Head Coach. JerryMac derided my post as he said Cable is a position coach, not an administrator. I then said he could take over Herrera’s job as Depends Changer. No response to that.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 am
Garcia well put my fellow Raider fan.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:14 am
RRS..
okay, a 4th and 3rd… fact is, I hated them both during their offseason, but Im glad it was unfounded..
Cable as GM!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
Trade Condo for 20 littoral Combat Ships
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 am
Don’t think I didn’t try Dell.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 am
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# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 am
LMN,
During the chat yesterday, I suggested to JerryMac that Cable should get “promoted to Asst G.M.” as a way to get HJ to stay as Head Coach. JerryMac derided my post as he said Cable is a position coach, not an administrator. I then said he could take over Herrera’s job as Depends Changer. No response to that.
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Bwahahaha, good stuff.. well Cable doesnt seem as the administrator kind of type, but its evident we are a better team under his guidance.. that said, the only administrator-type the raiders have is Amy Trask… as you said, Herrera’s job would Cable easily fill.. btw, Herrera is stain on the pride of the franchise, I truly hate that guy, and I wish him gone tomorrow, he is dumbing the organization, and it frightens me that he has the power he has…
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Cable should get “promoted to Asst G.M.” as a way to get HJ to stay as Head Coach
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can you picture that fat monkey Tom Cable in a suit defending every move that Al Davis makes for Hue Jackson?
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:24 am
Garcia…
I totally agree, but the then Delhomme was lightyears ahead of todays JC..
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 am
RRS
Many wild Turkeys on my property, and very big. I wish you were local, and I’d have you come over and take aim and have Christmas Dinner.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
Cable is out there punching assistant coaches and telling his players to step on throats.
giving this guy an office job = bull in a china cabinet!
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 am
Raider Dell Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
Trade Condo for 20 littoral Combat Ships
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BSJ is mad that Condo makes 1.6 million, and you want to trade him for about 12 Billion dollars worth of Navy ship? Talk about cost effective…
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
Cable is out there punching assistant coaches and telling his players to step on throats.
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You have an issue with Cable telling players to step on throats? Maybe you shouldnt be watching football if that offends you.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 am
bcz24 Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:27 am
Raider Dell Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:16 am
Trade Condo for 20 littoral Combat Ships
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BSJ is mad that Condo makes 1.6 million, and you want to trade him for about 12 Billion dollars worth of Navy ship? Talk about cost effective…
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Stimulus baby!! Stimulus!!!Bill
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 am
the only administrator-type the raiders have is Amy Trask…
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Amy Trask only handles financials, she plays no roll in the football operations at all, other than shaking the hands of players on the sidelines during home games.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:32 am
Many wild Turkeys on my property, and very big. I wish you were local, and I’d have you come over and take aim and have Christmas Dinner.
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Dell,
me too! I didn’t kill any during fall turkey season. didn’t even fire the shotgun. killed 1 in the spring time. 1/4 = not good enough
I tagged out during deer season though. opening day of rifle season = 8 point buck. black powder season opened on Saturday and I killed a doe on Sunday night (stayed home saturday night & sunday morning). gutted that deer and hung it in my father n laws tree, LOL
We won 2nd place in a contest for best Christmas lights/decorations. prize = Lowes gift card and (drum roll please …) a frozen turkey!
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 am
America at its finest – “The Navy has apparently budgeted $490 million per ship for the 20 ships, while the Congressional Budget Office has projected a cost of $591 million per ship.”
LOL
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:34 am
Let Tollner continue as Asst. GM. I believe Al listens to him, and his views are reflected in our:
> “no knucklehead” approach
> fewer scholarship gym freaks
> drafting of intelligent kids
> avoiding cancerous FA signings
> focus on developing young players from within
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 am
You have an issue with Cable telling players to step on throats?
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Nope. In fact, thats why i’m convinced we’re going to sign Fat Albert in the offseason!
Seymour-Kelly-Haynesworth-Henderson rotation at D Tackle
draft a CB in Round 2. give Routt a modest deal to stay. barely starter money
2011 Raiders = 11-5
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:37 am
Hey BSJ,
hows Lamont?
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:37 am
RRS
Were I live no tags necessary, for wild turkey, their on my property and it’s legal. I say they weigh around 20lbs-to 24 lbs. you can’t miss, even BSJ could kill one, as their in a pack of 20 or 30.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 am
Condo makes well over $2 mil, Bcz.
And that $591 mil per ship translates to many jobs and a stronger domestic manufacturing base. One of few govt. stimuli that actually trickles down to the blue collar worker. And it keeps our shorelines safe.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 am
Lamont is AWESOME, thanks. Both fun and affectionate. Still sketchy on going up/down stairs though.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 am
hopefully that beast Lamont will protect your daughter from Steve Alford types … since you Illinois folks can’t legally conceal & carry a firearm
happy Christmas, liberal!
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 am
Dell, I have flocks of turkeys in my yard daily and I would never consider killing one. They trip me out, especially when my foxhound scares them up into the empty trees. Creepy…
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 am
happy Christmas, liberal!
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You meant Seasons Greetings I hope, lol.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:42 am
Raider Dell Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:37 am
RRS
Were I live no tags necessary, for wild turkey, their on my property and it’s legal. I say they weigh around 20lbs-to 24 lbs. you can’t miss, even BSJ could kill one, as their in a pack of 20 or 30.
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BTW, I was a high expert on the M16 in the Marines. 237 out of 250 on a course that went back to 500 meters. I could have been a PMI (Primary Marksmanship Instructor) if I didn’t love field artillery so much (sarcasm).
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 am
Were I live no tags necessary, for wild turkey, their on my property and it’s legal. I say they weigh around 20lbs-to 24 lbs. you can’t miss
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Dell, hook it up brother!
most of my family has relocated to Missouri from Cali. dad, sister, neice & nephew (divorced brothers kids), etc
still got some family in Ca though aunt, uncle, cousins, brother, and tons of friends all over the state. If I head that way to visit, I’ll let you know. Might eventually be there for a wedding or (gasp) funeral. you never know
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 am
And that $591 mil per ship translates to many jobs and a stronger domestic manufacturing base. One of few govt. stimuli that actually trickles down to the blue collar worker. And it keeps our shorelines safe.
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Oh dude I have absolutely ZERO problem with spending $591 million. I have never taken issue with defense spending. Not a fan of how the contracts are determined, but thats not really the issue. I just find it amusing that they are budgeting $490 million when they KNOW they cant get it done for less than $600. That kind of shady accounting is exactly what causes all the issues.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
BCZ,
no response to my posts about Minnesota, Tom Cable or Fat Albert … Hmmm
bad day?
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
189.Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 am
Dell, I have flocks of turkeys in my yard daily and I would never consider killing one. They trip me out, especially when my foxhound scares them up into the empty trees. Creepy…
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lol
Wild turkeys are great….almost ran over a troop of them on the highway coming home from the airport yesterday.
When I was a kid, I used to love watching them jump off a hill behind my parents house. They would “fly” down and land in our Russian olive trees. One time one of the turkeys landed badly in the middle of our garden, it was just flopping there on the ground. Suddenly a bobcat came out of the trees, looked around a bit, then jumped the 5′ garden fence, picked that turkey up, and then jumped the fence again holding that damned turkey. I couldn’t believe it.
The circle of life. lol
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 am
That kind of shady accounting is exactly what causes all the issues.
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shady accounting has RRS & Raider O written all over it. give us your bidness!
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 am
I see Dakota is a fellow Podunkian
we go land trapping for bobcat, raccoon & coyote
river trapping for mink, otter & beaver
possum & skunk = worthless!
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:56 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
Cable is out there punching assistant coaches and telling his players to step on throats.
giving this guy an office job = bull in a china cabinet!
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I rather have a bull, than a clown..
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
I rather have a bull, than a clown..
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LMN,
who is higher on AD’s scholarship list?
John Herrerra or Sam Williams ???
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 am
BCZ,
no response to my posts about Minnesota, Tom Cable or Fat Albert … Hmmm
bad day?
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Not at all. Trying to finalize some stuff before I leave for my… wait for it… 17 day vacation!
Minnesota- Havent given up a lot of sacks (22 for Favre) but have allowed all 3 qbs to be hit way too much. The injuries/free agent losses really hurt
Tom Cable – No to him being a GM. There is so much involved in that position. Its not just a go between for Al and players man. That would be a disaster of a magnitude that would make the Jamarcus Russell draft pick look like a decent idea
Fat Albert- his talent is undeniable, but I really dont want his mentallity polluting our team. I think we are really on to something, but I think the ‘house that cable built’ is still pretty fragile. Haynesworth is the type of guy who could bring it all down around us.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:59 am
who is higher on AD’s scholarship list?
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Jon Clowndo
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 am
Is alex7 aig?
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:06 am
I brought my wife & son into work yesterday. only 2 of like 50 people got to hold him and I’ve got some pissed off ladies to deal with today, LOL
on the bright side, my boss shook my hand and gave me $40 and said “go buy the little fella some pj’s or something” – Pretty sure that’ll buy me an authentic JLH jersey!
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
154.Dakota Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:38 am
Al came out right before the season and said he put the team together. Cable has about as much to do with the draft as he does calling plays. very little.
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Source or link please…
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:08 am
RR you can get that jersey for about fifty cents right now… maybe even the same one he wore last week…
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:06 am
I brought my wife & son into work yesterday. only 2 of like 50 people got to hold him and I’ve got some pissed off ladies to deal with today, LOL
on the bright side, my boss shook my hand and gave me $40 and said “go buy the little fella some pj’s or something” – Pretty sure that’ll buy me an authentic JLH jersey!
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Very cool. My boss sent me $100… I was very surprised. Much more generous than usual.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 am
Cable is out there punching assistant coaches and telling his players to step on throats.
giving this guy an office job = bull in a china cabinet!
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was there another coach becuse you are using a plural there when you say “Coaches”… besides, it was proven that actually slipped and bonked his noodle..
Source – link?
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:11 am
NMD,
how bout them Lakers?
bwahahahahahaha!
Mistic,
if alex7 is AIG then MR is a Raider fan … no chance!
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:12 am
# alex7 Says:
December 21st, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Goodness Lefty, he started 3 games his first year in san francisco 3 more the next year and was already kicking butt those first 2 years.
why are you ignoring those starts?
you are talking total years I’m talking starting years being that Jason has had 6 of those and shown nothing special.
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Putrid non applicable comparison. Young had rice, groomed behind the greatest qb of all time joe cool, and played for bill walsh, and qb guru holmgren.
JC has been afforded none of those advantages, Gibbs was his best ally in his first two years.
For the record young was traded to sf because he was considered a bust in tampa.
Jc may not be considered stellar, or a star, but i have never heard anyone describe him as a draft bust.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:15 am
204.No Mas Diamante Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:07 am
154.Dakota Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:38 am
Al came out right before the season and said he put the team together. Cable has about as much to do with the draft as he does calling plays. very little.
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Source or link please…
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Look it up yourself. Most of us know about the interview Al gave prior to the season. You can find it.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:16 am
what do the lakers have to do with anything. I’m a Mavericks fan when it comes to NBA
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:17 am
dakota – That’s what I thought…lol.. when you make a staement have the cajones to back it up…
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:19 am
No Alex7 is not AIG. I doubt he has as many grammatical errors or get as annoyed as I do with JC. BTW, Raider Reggie please stop insulting Jim Plunkett by comparing him to JC. Jim Plunkett would never dump off when we have 11 secs left and no time out. Jim Plunkett was actually wanted by the fans to replace Pastorini. Jim Plunkett actually sat for a few years and had to earn his starting job rather than being given like JC was. JC aint no Jim Plunkett but keep on dreaming.
Sure let’s give JC another chance in 2011. However, I doubt he will give our team a chance when faced with a 4th and all or nothing. He’ll dump off again like he has his entire life.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:21 am
jmcclain Says:
December 21st, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Campbell is who he is to think he is gonna become good are decent is wishfull thinking. The flaws this man has can’t be coached it’s the way he’s gonna be period. Can’t read defenses, slow decision making in the pocket, overthrows everybody, but the most important one he gets to nervous after as many yrs he’s been starting he just shouldn’t be that nervous.
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For the record the knock on jc is that he is only decent not good (media hype).
Also please tell me how you can ascertain his level of proficiency when it comes to making decisions, the speed of his decision making, or his ability to read defenses?
These are phony labels, that cant be proven by any of the haters on this board, by any tangible proof. they fall into the realm of useless opinion.
However his career numbers not only suggest that he is able to read defenses and make good decisions, they blow those labels right out of the water. 66 td to 46 ints fellas, it really is that simple.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:25 am
IMO, you guys have lowered the bar of expectation so low with JC at the helm. It’s as if you’re doing everything you can to make sure JC look good. Ford, DMAC, Dline, and even the Oline have all carried the team at least once this season. JaPanic has yet to carry this team when faced with the moment of truth. He looks good padding his stats when dumping off and Reece/Ford/Dmac takes it to the house. Why should we settle for this? Shouldnt we want our starting QB to at least be competent? You guys let the Dline and DMAC mask JC again. I have a hunch he will get exposed again this weekend. Indy is a good team and will not let us off the hook like the Donks did last Sunday.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:26 am
was there another coach becuse you are using a plural there when you say “Coaches”… besides, it was proven that actually slipped and bonked his noodle..
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according to that ESPN special, Tom Cable has displayed a history of violence against women. I’m assuming that means his ex wives, Hansen & Lal
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:27 am
# aig-raiders Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 12:20 am
I’d be happy to accept that JC can be like Young. But show me this year where JC has improved. People points out to the W/L but imo W/L are really for coaches. The coach is responsible for all 3 phases of the game. JC is responsible for only 1 phase.
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Comical.
You posted his win loss record and even claimed that he was the reason for the foreskin failures, because he was surrounded by a good team in washington.
Which one is it bra? Now that he is in a better situation and winning, and your guy flopped, winning doesnt matter?
you are flipping like a trapeze artist, and getting man handled by jc.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:29 am
good one RR. but is espn really a reliable source?
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 am
212.No Mas Diamante Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:17 am
dakota – That’s what I thought…lol.. when you make a staement have the cajones to back it up…
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Sorry you didn’t know about Al’s interview on the radio in August. There, maybe now you have enough info to go look it up. Or are you just generally lazy?
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:31 am
Mistic,
I am on record to say that W/L are overrated for the QB as per prev discussions with JFB. However, I’d be more than happy to stick with the W/L as a standard bearer for judging the QB. Do you really want to do that? You were just touting his career numbers. Would you like me to show you his career W/L record and winning %? I wont be this nice next time. Please dont bring up w/l alright?
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:32 am
When I suggested Cable as an Asst. G.M., it was as a figurehead only. Runner for McDonald’s cheeseburgers and KFC Coleslaw. Just a way to get him out as Coach and to keep Hue Jackson.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:33 am
Good Morning Nation.
RR,
LMAO @ 196.
Merry Christmas!!
Happy Holidays!!
Happy winter Break!!
Happy “I Stick it to a Preppie” day!!
Oh happy day!!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
RR you can get that jersey for about fifty cents right now… maybe even the same one he wore last week…
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Higgins was inactive against Denver with an ankle injury.
You’re Done!
Nick Miller has 3 catches for 40 yards, 2 kick returns for 37 yards and 32 punt returns with a 7 yard average. Impressed?
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:36 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:33 am
Grads will be a FA after the season. I see him ending up as the starter in one of the following, Minnesota, Phoenix or Cinn. He will get a multi-year deal. The Vikings would be the best fit as they have a good OL and Peterson.
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grads will never start another nfl game any where, barring an injury to whichever two guys he is backing up.
The book is out on that dude, and its a horror novel
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
Raider O,
the Bucks beat Mich and now the “other” Bucks have beaten the Lakers … is operation neutered liberal complete yet?
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
BSJ = Liberal Preppie Rambo!
I can’t believe preppie was in the military.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 am
RRS,
You want a brandnew #8 white authentic jersey? I got 1 sitting right here. I offered it to the JC fan club but nobody took the offer. Will sell it for cheap.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
The book is out on that dude, and its a horror novel
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He will be in the NFL longer than Campbell.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
Grad will go where Gruden goes. Gruden will take Hackett with him too. I see Grad/Gruden/Hackett in SF.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 am
TOM CABLE AS GM!! i must give due where due is deserved..
While Cable in charge we have been drafting wisely, 2 4th round picks I hated have become huge assets… Ford and Shonasty…
but I still dont like him as a coach, but I sure credit him for getting us up out of the hole we have been in.. getting rid of Cable will put us at a 3-4 win seasons again.. but I doubt if he ever will get us 10 wins… so hire him as GM and get another coach..
thats my 2 cents..
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i honestly believe this is cables greatest asset, the way he works with Davis to build the team. he is better in the draft room than on the field.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:40 am
Mistic,
What was Grad’s worst game compared to JC with the Raiders? 10.7 vs 60. Grad at least put his team in a position to win the game with a 2 min drive. Your boy didnt even bother to give our team a chance with 11 secs left. NOT A FRIGGIN CHANCE.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:42 am
Mistic,
I agree. Even fellow backups like Kerry Collins, Jon Kitna, Tim Tebow, Troy Smith, Rex Grossman, Matt Flynn, Drew Stanton & Shaun Hill are outplaying Grads this season. He’s competing for a UFL job next year
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:43 am
Have you all been voting for your Raider players for the Pro Bowl at NFL.COM??
DMC,Nnamdi,T Kelly,Lechler,Condo?
Heck I even vote for Reece and Gallery.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:44 am
Collie-less Colts still a threat…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_3
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
Mistic
Campbell can’t take competition for his position whether it’s Grads or whoever they bring in next year. I wish they had brought in Troy Smith so you would not be able to make it a skin thing. Know what I mean. Folds like a deck of cards. Same as facing a serious pass rush.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
230. What on earth makes you think a line coach would know the first thing about front office management?
Ridiculous.
Cable’s got very little to do with those draft picks.
Thats Al pulling the trigger baby.
Rip him for his sh-t drafts and praise him for his good ones.
He’s rebuilt this team through the back half of the draft.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
230.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 am
TOM CABLE AS GM!! i must give due where due is deserved..
While Cable in charge we have been drafting wisely, 2 4th round picks I hated have become huge assets… Ford and Shonasty…
but I still dont like him as a coach, but I sure credit him for getting us up out of the hole we have been in.. getting rid of Cable will put us at a 3-4 win seasons again.. but I doubt if he ever will get us 10 wins… so hire him as GM and get another coach..
thats my 2 cents..
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i honestly believe this is cables greatest asset, the way he works with Davis to build the team. he is better in the draft room than on the field.
^^^^^^^^
The old man Al’s best move last year was allowing the coaches and scouts to run the draft and him staying the heck out of it.
If the old man would have run the draft like he did when they took DHB and Mitchell in the first two rounds in Cables first full year as coach, he would have REACHED for Bruce Campbell with that 1st pick and would have taken Jacoby Ford in the 2nd Round.
LOL
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
Colts still a threat
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N21, if Seymour & Asomugha play we will win this game by 17 points
Nnamdi on Wayne. Routt on Garcon
Huff is the help over the top from FS
Indy = not a running team. GAME OVER
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:48 am
235. Campbell has been making the O line BETTER.
JC’s deft scrambles and pocket awareness has bought time for our less than experienced WRs to get open.
He’s struggled this year no doubt but give cred where its due.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:50 am
238.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_3
“Turnovers could play a major role in this one especially if Oakland can use its 2nd ranked running game against the Colts 28th ranked run defense.
If the Raiders can sustain drives, eat the clock and keep Peyton on the bench they’ll increase their chances of securing a win and keeping heir slim play off chances alive.”
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:52 am
# aig-raiders Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:31 am
Mistic,
I am on record to say that W/L are overrated for the QB as per prev discussions with JFB. However, I’d be more than happy to stick with the W/L as a standard bearer for judging the QB. Do you really want to do that? You were just touting his career numbers. Would you like me to show you his career W/L record and winning %? I wont be this nice next time. Please dont bring up w/l alright?
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I didnt bring up wins and losses, you did. I am only reminding you of that fact, and now you want switch your stance?!?!?
Hilarious!! Jc is posting ws’ here in oakland, and has you back pedaling like one of manny pacquiao’s sparring partners.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:53 am
LMAO @ Operation Neutered Liberal!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:45 am
Mistic
Campbell can’t take competition for his position whether it’s Grads or whoever they bring in next year. I wish they had brought in Troy Smith so you would not be able to make it a skin thing. Know what I mean. Folds like a deck of cards. Same as facing a serious pass rush.
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Of course i knew it wouldnt take long for someone to bring down the intelectual value on this board. Skin thing??? I dont know what you mean, please expose, i mean explain yourself.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 am
Sup bishes? I see Nnams shilling aqgain…
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:57 am
Rockstar,
’stead of dreamin’ ’bout shootin’ turkeys in Dell’s backyard why don’t you take some of those opossum, skunk and squirrel carcasses you’ve got laying around and whip up some special Menagerie de Podunk stew. Then drive it over to Arrowhead as a pregame meal offering (hint: don’t wear your Raider gear) to the Chefs.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:57 am
243. Seems pretty self explanatory
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
We match up well against the Colts.
-Their strength: Passing, and pass Defense.
-Our strength: pass Defense, and running.
-their weakness: stopping the run.
-Our Weakness: Stopping the run.
Raiders 34
Colts 28
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:58 am
GoodOle,
Not my site so I don’t care but you’ve never even been to it have you?
Theres a lot of good Raider info bruh. Of course Jerry’s the King…
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:47 am
230. What on earth makes you think a line coach would know the first thing about front office management?
Ridiculous.
Cable’s got very little to do with those draft picks.
Thats Al pulling the trigger baby.
Rip him for his sh-t drafts and praise him for his good ones.
He’s rebuilt this team through the back half of the draft.
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i wouldnt go quite that far. i think he has on some level been able to have input with al, and that is a good thing. he also is able to shut up, when Al puts him in check ( jc. vs. grads) and that is a very good thing.
However the amount of input he has really cant be proven or otherwise. i wouldnt want him as a gm.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
Mistic,
Amazing how you avoided the actual point. I’ve only brought up JC’s W/L when other people on here used W/L to make the case against Orton/Palmer/McNabb. Again, do you want me to go down the W/L path with JC? I KNOW YOU DONT. So please move on already.
I’ve never switched my stance Mistic. I know 100% to be a fact that JC is not an NFL QB. He is the token qb that you have lowered the bar of expectation for. If he was not Black, you know darn well you’d be all over his a$$.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:02 am
new post!