Raiders will avoid scoreboard watching Sunday
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 22nd, 2010 at 4:05 pm in Oakland Raiders.
To know, or not to know?
At some point in the moments leading up to the kickoff of Sunday’s game against the Indianapolis Colts, the Raiders will learn if they’re already out of the playoff race based on the Titans-Chiefs game in Tennessee.
Or still in it.
Raiders coach Tom Cable knows the information will be available but has no plans to mention it, even if the Chiefs lose.
“I wouldn’t bring it up one way or the other,’’ Cable said Wednesday at his weekly press briefing. “The focus needs to be on Indy.’’
Quarterback Jason Campbell won’t be watching the scoreboard.
“I wouldn’t want to know. It’s not going to make us play any harder or any less. This is the game, this is what we get paid to do,’’ Campbell said. “You should try to give it 100 percent regardless and just go out and play extremely hard.
“So, I don’t think it should matter to us either way or not. We just got to go out and play as hard as we can play.”
Shane Lechler recoiled when asked if he would avoid any news about the Chiefs.
“Hell no, I’m gonna’ watch. I watch every game on Sunday,’’ Lechler said before conceding it was a strange situation.
“That’s one thing we can’t control and we all know that,’’ Lechler said. “We wish we could, but we can’t. And I think it’s important. Whether if they win or lose, no matter what, if we can turn this around and win these last two, we’ll have swept the division, which I think is a big statement, big turning point for this organization heading into next season.’’
Cornerback Stanford Routt was ambivalent about hearing the Chiefs score.
“If somebody walked up to me before the game and said, hey, Stan, Kansas City did this or did that, I wouldn’t necessarily shun the information away, but I know it’s not going to have any effect on how we play on Sunday,’’ Routt said.
More news, notes and observations Wednesday:
– Right tackle Langston Walker (concussion), defensive tackle Richard Seymour (hamstring) and punter Shane Lechler (hamstring) did not practice. Those who were limited were cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha (ankle), wide receiver Johnnie Lee Higgins, wide receiver Nick Miller (ankle) and cornerback Chris Johnson (groin). Safety Mike Mitchell was listed as having sore ribs, but practiced without limitations.
Walker’s situation will likely not be clear until Friday, with Mario Henderson starting if he can’t play. Cable said he was concerned about Seymour’s availability but noted, “It’s still early.’’
— Once upon a time (OK, it was Sept. 10, 2000), Raiders middle linebacker Greg Biekert deciphered the audible calls of Peyton Manning at halftime of a game Oakland trailed at halftime 24-7.
With Biekert taking to the chalkboard and tipping off the defense, the Raiders stuffed the Indianapolis offense, scored five consecutive touchdowns and left with a 38-31 win.
Biekert is now on staff as an assistant linebackers coach, ostensibly with some advice for rookie middle linebacker Rolando McClain.
“Sure, it can be helpful, sharing that wisdom with Rolando and the rest of the players,’’ Cable said. “Ultimately, it will have to be us figuring it out and solving it as we go.’’
— Campbell was in agreement with Cable’s assessment Monday that it would be a mistake to go so run heavy because of the presence of Peyton Manning that the Raiders miss chances for big plays in the passing game.
“We have to run our offense. I think we’re a pretty good offense,’’ Campbell said. “We can’t get away from what we do really well to get us out of synch. We understand we’re facing a great quarterback, a guy that’s been in the league for a long time and has been a great quarterback for many years.
“But we can’t get so much into that where we keep ourselves from doing what we do best. It’s a situation where we’ve just got to, it’s going to come down to just playing football and protecting the ball.’’
— Practice squad punter Danny Baugher is preparing himself as if he’s Kyle Boller.
“I kind of picture myself as the backup quarterback preparing to play, as If I’m going into the game,’’ Baugher said. “But things are still to be determined at this point.’’
Baugher played for the Las Vegas Locomotives, which won the UFL championship under Jim Fassel, the father of Raiders special teams coordinator John Fassel.
— Cable spent three games in a Colts uniform as an offensive lineman in 1987 when the NFL used replacement players during the strike.
Cable was already starting his coaching career at Idaho but gave it one more shot.
“Most every one of us had been cut prior to that, so that kind of ended your hopes of being a professional football player,’’ Cable said. “The strike gave you one more opportunity.’’
— The NFL can go until next Tuesday before declaring a Sunday night game for Week 17. Chicago-Green Bay and Oakland-Kansas City could both be games that could be moved to the evening slot which is left vacant on the original schedule.
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December 22nd, 2010 at 4:07 pm
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December 22nd, 2010 at 4:20 pm
This is the best we’ve had it in a long time, 7 wins! Start of the year, same as the last 5, I predicted 8-8. Finally hope.
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December 22nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
So Jerry, how’s it looking for a sellout or no sellout? Any indication on Probowl numbers? Over-under on how many Raiders will end up being selected to the Probowl squads after almost all the original selections find an excuse to not go?
December 22nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Raiders against the Colts! Just seeing the the Colts unis at the Coliseum will invoke memories of Bert Jones and Lydell Mitchell against the Snake and the Ghost… Just want to see some good football these last two games.
December 22nd, 2010 at 4:36 pm
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December 22nd, 2010 at 4:44 pm
So JC wants to throw it, hmmm he’s getting confident in what they can do with the passing game vs the Colts. In some ways that is exciting I hadn’t heard him sound like that at all before. It tells me he thinks he can get things done. Nice to see even if one doesn’t agree.
December 22nd, 2010 at 4:44 pm
Dear Santa,
All I want for Christmas is Raider victory. And maybe a Chiefs loss. And a Bungal win. And while were at it, maybe a spot in the playoffs. That’d be sweet. And since I’m here asking, no begging really, maybe a bottle of Hendricks and a copy of Call of Duty Black Ops.
December 22nd, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Run the ball, JC.
December 22nd, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Please don’t try to get cute, Hue.
December 22nd, 2010 at 4:56 pm
All year and not 1 prime time game. What a travesty? Man have we fallen. The Oakland Raiders used to be made for MNF.
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:00 pm
Jc’s getting kinacocky! Lets see what he can do he had medicore game last week maybe he wants to show what he can do across from the great Manning. Hey if he thinks he has it I’m all for it. Confidence is 80% of his battle he has enough talent to do whatever he wants to do. But does he play with the kind of confidence to get it done? I like it!! Lets see what happens. There is no doubt that we can run it on them if he can make a few stick throws that’s really all we need he needs to make about 5 real throws that make the difference.
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Hue Jackson sometimes gets way toooo cute. we had a team Sunday that had zero confidence and we could’ve ground them into the dirt and he gets too flambouyant with the playcalling. After you go up 7 the rest was easy just dominate them and he’s calling all this extravagant stuff that we didn’t need and lets them get right into the game.
Hujack is the one who really scares me, sometimes he outcoaches himself.
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Bill and Michael
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Not sure if people realize but
TENNESSEE IS STILL ALIVE at 6-8
so…
THEY HAVE PLENTY OF INCENTIVE TO PLAY HARD @KC on Sunday…
GO T3NN!
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:22 pm
I’ll be rooting for the Titans for sure..but, even if KC wins I would still love to see the RAIDERS beat indy and KC and finish up at 9-7.
That would make me moist.
December 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Priest – I really don’t understand your axe with Hue. It seems to be misplaced. The guy has done a superb job with this offense. Not everything will be perfect but overall he has done some excellent work.
The numbers speak for themselves.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:06 pm
I heard rich gannon rip campbell, and the raiders last night on the radio and almost drove off the road. this dude is so smug and arrogant, what an idiot. he must have forgotten who he was as a player. i know he had a nice run here for 3-4 years, but to rip jc and claim he/ the raiders cant compete with cassel and rivers was an outrage. Scoreboard jackass, jc and the raiders have pounded those turds this year.
gannon was one of the best regular season qbs to wear silver and black for hot minute. i steress regular season qb. he was peyton manning without the lombardi hardware to bail out his legacy. Does he remember his epic post season flame outs. The tuck rule sucked, but gannon didnt play well enough to win that game either. Saragusa knocked him out of the game, but gannon wasnt lighting it up before that happened. Noone will ever forget when he became tony eason in the superbowl. What a joke!!!
Gannon you couldnt beat out sean salisbury or elvis grbac, you sucked!
Campbell is way ahead of you after six years. your first six years in the nfl isnt even in the conversation with jc.
You got injured your career was over and you are upset with Davis for showing you the door, get over it hater!
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:12 pm
‘Sup fellas?
Kell,TJ, Terrapin…hope everybody is in a festive,Holiday spirit.
It’s week 16 and the Raiders are still in playoff contention. It’s been awhile since we could say that, yes?
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:16 pm
gannon was not clutch, he didnt win the big games. he was on a team that was super bowl ready for a nice year window and failed. there were hall of famers all over that team and gannon flopped miserably. I dont care about his techmo bowl regular season stats, or his crappy mvp trophy. ill take Plunkett and Snake every day of the week and twice on sunday over gannon. Why because they brought home the hardware, and won in the clutch! Gannon do us all a favor and go away
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
*2-3 year window*
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:17 pm
I’ve got to think that someone at headquarters is communicating with someone in the Titans camp about playing hard this weekend.
We got Indy and Titans have KC. Then next week, we have KC and Titans have Indy. We win our two and they win their two, Raiders and Titans make playoffs. That is if Jax’ville loses two also.
But at least we make it. If Cincy or Tebow comes through.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Tennesse is playing at Kansas City.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Hope Big Rich can go Sunday. I hope that hammy isn’t too severe. His absence would be critical. He and Tommy are almost unblockable at times. Seymours absence would allow the Colts to double TK.
Getting that inside pressure is paramount vs. Peyton because the blitz is almost useless.
I don’t know if there’s a front four playing much better that L Houston,TK, Rich and Shonasty. They can look downright dominant at times. Losing Rich for this one sure would hurt,though.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:24 pm
How has John Henderson been vs the pass this season?
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:30 pm
sup buck!
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Both TK and Seymour have been getting such quick penetration up the gut they have almost taken a couple of hand offs.
Even that backbreaking run vs Jax’s backup RB, Seymour damn near had him for a four yard loss. Routt looked like a candy ass trying to play flag football and let the dude outside for a 70 yarder. Then the ensuing fumble and boom a convincing Raider road win turns into a heartbreaker.
It’s a shame the Raiders have lost control of their own destiny, they have nobody to blame but themselves. They miss the playoffs this year they can look back at those Jax, Ariz, and SF games and kick themselves in the ass.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
I disagree about the blitz being useless against Peyton. The same was said about Rivers and look what it caused him to do.
I think Peyton has problems when he throws on the run. We gotta flush him out the pocket. He’s not as nimble as two years ago which could have something to do with his gut being bigger.
We make him move and we can get him. Plus we have to roll coverage to Wayne and take our chances with the WR on the other side. Collie is out. This game is there for the taking.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Believe it or not, it’s San Diego who scares me more than anything…
Not in terms of us playing them, because we own them this season.
But in terms of, I am not confident that Cincy or Denver will beat them.
If we win our last two, I will be extremely happy, but I will still feel sick at seeing those pansy Chargers win the division.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:35 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Routt looked like a candy ass trying to play flag football and let the dude outside for a 70 yarder.
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I agree. Routt admitted it was his fault in his post game interview and said that a mistake like that from him would never happen again.
Then he gives up a phantom TD against Denver with the ball sailing right through his hands…
Hey, I guess it wasn’t the SAME mistake,lol.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Yeah I have no confidence in Cincy or Denver. But I do have confidence in their weather.
December 22nd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
Point taken 504. Maybe blitzing Peyton too often is asking for trouble. How about that? I agree you have to make Peyton uncomfortable. I’d just like to see TK and Seymour right in his face at the snap.
I love to see Marshall bring the heat. I don’t think he’s used MM34 enoough on blitzes. I thought the guy was very impressive as a rookie. I though Marshall would be sending him early and often this year.
I think we could agree that the best way to defend Manning would be to keep his butt on the sideline by Bullying that undersized Colt defense all over the field. I’d like to see the Raiders have about a 40:20 T.O.P. advantage.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:00 pm
504,
I’ve got a good feeling about Cincy this week, actually. I could be wrong and Phillip and SD could come in and roll em 41-10, but I don’t thnink so. You’re right about the weather. It’s cold as hell and I believe the weatherman is calling for like 5-9 inches of snow around Christmas. Could be a factor.
How does SD luck out and get a 4:00 pm et kickoff? Why aren’t they playing at 1:00?
Besides, it’s been the Bungle MO for about 18 of the last 20 years to start out at about 3-10 and then win their last 3 meaningless games and have Bungle fans say “just wait till next year”. Then start out 2 and 12 again. Wash, rinse, repeat.
The Bungles aren’t horrible, even if they did lose 10 in a row. LOL. They were 11-5 last year and do have some talent. Losing TO doesn’t help the cause though.
All I can say is, for this week at least….Who Dey!
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Another factor for Cincy is because they are out of the playoffs, they may try to run a bunch of plays they never ran all year. Maybe some trick plays that San Diego will not see on film this week.
I hope they pull out all the stops. Plus Palmer is due for a big game. I don’t recall him having one all year. Hopefully the Monday morning talk will be “where was that Palmer all year?”
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Austin Pettis with a TD…..Man I hope we sign him
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
How about trading for that backup green bay qb we need to find a good qb to get us back into the playoffs
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
They need to push that pocket back into Peyton’s face. No stepping up in the pocket.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm
I hope seymour plays
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:28 pm
LT Dan was thinking the same thing… Guy has some talent and an attitude to go with it…
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:31 pm
It was a real positive to see Tenn show some signs of life last week. They were in like a six week funk. Hopefully their Vince Young vs Jeff Fisher drama is over and behind them. They are still a pretty good football team.
Don’t know if they can go into Arrowhead and steal a W, but they’ve got a shot. I’d love to see CJ2K have one of his 220 yd, 2 TD gems.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 pm
No Mas the attitude is what could be special but who knows maybe he is a career back up
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
All I know is Austin Pettis has 10 receptions for a 137 yards and a Touchdown…We need that kind of player on the team
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
That giant kicker punting to jackson with no time left and lose a game is something the Raiders would do glad it wasnt us this time.lol
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:39 pm
36.LT DAN Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
How about trading for that backup green bay qb we need to find a good qb to get us back into the playoffs
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I was telling folks down here about that yesterday. He was JaMarcus Russells backup at LSU. We were talking about how it’s a shame he turned out to be a better pro than Russell. Shows youngsters how hard work and being humble can take you a long way. He’s been coached up real well by Mike McCarthy.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:43 pm
504 looks like he has put in the work and been coached up I agree. I am also wondering how close cwood is to being a FA maybe he could finish his career as a RAIDER
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:55 pm
I hope it’s cold, rainy and muddy as hell in Oakland on Sunday.
Indy is the epitome of a dome team. They are built for Peyton and that quick strike offense to build a lead and make their opponent one dimensional. Then they turn their speed rushers Freeney and Mathis loose on that quick indoor track. OT’s are already struggling to hear the snap count inside that noisy dome.
Let’s get them out of their elemant and into the mud and muck of Oakland and just use that big offensive line to lean on em all day. Pound DMac and bush at em over and over. Wear their azzes out. Then set up the play action and the bootlegs and rollouts.
This game is there for the taking. I can feel it.
December 22nd, 2010 at 7:55 pm
Flynn displayed toughness by leading Robert E. Lee High School to a semifinal appearance in one of the toughest classifications in Texas despite playing his last four games with a broken foot. His team lost to Midland High School 24-14.
On January 7, 2008, Flynn led LSU to a BCS National Championship, beating Ohio State 38-24. Flynn was named offensive MVP of the game. As the starting quarterback for LSU, Flynn led the Tigers to an undisputed #1 ranking in the polls.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Was that really necessary 504? Damn.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm
LSU’s 2005 Roster
No Name Pos Ht Wt DOB Yr City, State (High School)
10 Joseph Addai RB 6-0 205 05/03/1983 SR Houston, TX (Sharpstown HS)
91 Charles Alexander DE 6-3 290 10/09/1985 FR* Breaux Bridge, LA (Breaux Bridge HS)
83 Kyle Anderson TE 6-6 260 09/26/1986 FR The Woodlands, TX (The Woodlands HS)
73 Will Arnold OL 6-4 315 12/30/1984 SO Centreville, MS (Centreville Academy)
48 Darry Beckwith LB 6-1 225 05/15/1987 FR Baton Rouge, LA (Parkview Baptist School)
70 Ciron Black OL 6-5 315 10/29/1986 FR Tyler, TX (Lee HS)
35 Andre Boagni K 5-9 171 07/05/1984 JR Zachary, LA (Zachary HS)
80 Dwayne Bowe WR 6-3 202 09/21/1984 JR Miami, FL (Miami Norland HS)
17 Bennie Brazell FL 6-1 165 06/02/1982 SR Houston, TX (Westbury HS)
22 Alley Broussard RB 6-0 235 09/06/1983 JR Lafayette, LA (Acadiana HS)
2 Shyrone Carey RB 5-6 185 01/04/1982 SR Marrero, LA (Archbishop Shaw Jr HS)
50 Jarrod Carter DT 6-2 291 12/24/1984 SO River Ridge, LA (John Curtis Christian)
23 Xavier Carter WR 6-3 190 12/08/1985 SO Melbourne, FL (Palm Bay Senior HS)
26 Nick Child CB 6-0 169 08/22/1985 SO Metairie, LA (Archbishop Rummel HS)
81 Mit Cole TE 6-4 245 08/14/1985 SO Picayune, MS (Picayune Memorial HS)
43 Harry Coleman LB 6-3 205 11/10/1985 FR Baldwin, LA (West Saint Mary HS)
11 Dominic Cooper DE 6-3 199 08/22/1985 SO New Orleans, LA (O. Perry Walker School)
85 Brady Dalfrey P 6-0 198 05/05/1986 FR* Lafayette, LA (Carencro HS)
31 Jesse Daniels S 6-0 195 01/08/1984 JR Breaux Bridge, LA (Breaux Bridge HS)
3 Buster Davis WR 6-2 190 10/05/1985 JR New Orleans, LA (O. Perry Walker School)
72 Glenn Dorsey DT 6-2 295 08/01/1985 SO Gonzales, LA (East Ascension HS)
9 Early Doucet WR 6-0 211 10/28/1985 SO Saint Martinville, LA (St. Martinville Senior HS)
77 Peter Dyakowski OT 6-4 300 04/19/1984 JR Vancouver, BC (Vancouver College Prep)
93 Marlon Favorite DT 6-1 310 06/22/1986 FR* Harvey, LA (West Jefferson HS)
36 Patrick Fisher P 6-5 224 03/01/1985 SO Hyattsville, MD (Dematha Catholic HS)
15 Matt Flynn QB 6-2 224 06/20/1985 SO Tyler, TX (Lee HS)
37 Daniel Francis RB 5-11 179 09/09/1984 JR Port Barre, LA (Port Barre HS)
39 Ryan Gaudet K 5-7 155 05/29/1984 JR New Orleans, LA (Jesuit HS)
24 Keron Gordon CB 6-1 174 08/04/1984 JR Tampa, FL (Plant Senior HS)
5 Skyler Green SE 5-9 189 09/12/1984 SR Marrero, LA (Higgins, L W, HS)
29 Chris Hawkins DB 6-1 180 04/12/1986 FR Walker, LA (Walker HS)
74 Brett Helms OL 6-2 290 04/16/1986 FR* Stuttgart, AR (Stuttgart HS)
18 Jacob Hester FB 6-0 225 05/08/1985 SO Shreveport, LA (Evangel Christian Academy)
7 Ali Highsmith LB 6-1 225 01/20/1985 SO Miami, FL (Miami Central HS)
86 Lyle Hitt DT 6-2 282 08/27/1986 FR Baton Rouge, LA (Parkview Baptist School)
78 Paris Hodges OT 6-5 350 09/13/1984 JR Fairfield, CA (Vanden HS)
56 Kenny Hollis LB 6-0 241 10/29/1982 SR Adamsville, AL (Minor HS)
66 Max Holmes OL 6-4 275 04/05/1986 FR Baton Rouge, LA (Parkview Baptist School)
32 Jeffery Jack DB 5-10 175 05/19/1986 FR* Houston, TX (James Madison HS)
21 Chevis Jackson DB 6-0 180 12/11/1985 SO Mobile, AL (St. Pauls Episcopal School)
41 Chris Jackson K 5-11 159 12/13/1983 JR River Ridge, LA (John Curtis Christian)
28 R.J. Jackson RB 6-0 197 11/26/1986 FR Houston, TX (Westside HS)
93 Tyson Jackson DL 6-5 282 06/06/1986 FR* Edgard, LA (West Saint John HS)
87 Ricky Jean-Francois DE 6-3 275 11/23/1986 FR
75 Brian Johnson OG 6-4 315 03/24/1984 JR Tallahassee, FL (Amos P. Godby HS)
79 Herman Johnson OL 6-7 380 01/29/1985 FR* Denton, TX (Denton HS)
45 Quinn Johnson LB 6-3 230 09/30/1986 FR* Edgard, LA (West Saint John HS)
47 Tremaine Johnson DE 6-2 255 09/26/1985 FR* Galena Park, TX (Galena Park HS)
84 Alfred Jones DE 6-3 240 02/27/1985 FR New Orleans, LA (St. Augustine HS)
82 David Jones TE 6-4 252 09/15/1983 SR Silver Spring, MD (Springbrook HS)
40 Shawn Jordan RB 5-11 242 10/21/1984 SO El Paso, TX (Riverside HS)
14 Sammy Joseph DB 5-11 179 05/10/1983 JR Marrero, LA (Archbishop Shaw Jr HS)
42 Steven Korte FB 6-2 230 03/10/1986 FR Mandeville, LA (Fontainebleau HS)
51 E.J. Kuale LB 6-2 225 06/22/1983 SR Daytona Beach, FL (Seabreeze Senior HS)
88 Brandon La Fell WR 6-3 180 11/04/1986 FR Houston, TX (Lamar HS)
30 LaRon Landry S 6-1 180 10/17/1984 JR Boutte, LA (Hahnville HS)
71 Nate Livings OT 6-5 322 03/16/1982 SR Lake Charles, LA (Washington/Marion Magnet HS)
57 Alonzo Manuel OLB 6-2 234 10/24/1983 JR Jennings, LA (Jennings HS)
68 Terrell McGill OG 6-4 323 11/04/1983 SR Miami, FL (Miami Norland HS)
63 Ryan Miller OL 6-6 315 08/10/1985 FR* Lake Charles, LA (Barbe, Alfred M, HS)
64 Rudy Niswanger OL 6-5 293 11/09/1982 SR Monroe, LA (Ouachita Christian School)
90 Melvin Oliver DE 6-3 255 07/25/1983 SR Opelika, AL (Opelika HS)
11 Ryan Perrilloux QB 6-2 207 01/01/1987 FR Reserve, LA (East Saint John HS)
53 Gant Petty LS 6-0 208 09/21/1983 JR Baton Rouge, LA (Redemptorist Sr HS)
94 Chase Pittman DL 6-4 275 03/15/1983 JR Shreveport, LA (Evangel Christian Academy)
49 Kirston Pittman DE 6-3 238 01/18/1985 SO* Reserve, LA (East Saint John HS)
8 Ronnie Prude Jr. CB 5-11 175 06/04/1982 SR Shreveport, LA (Fair Park HS)
4 JaMarcus Russell QB 6-6 236 08/09/1985 SO Mobile, AL (Lillie B Williamson HS)
35 Luke Sanders LB 6-4 227 10/26/1984 SO West Monroe, LA (West Monroe HS)
33 Jason Spadoni LB 6-0 218 01/04/1983 JR* River Ridge, LA (John Curtis Christian)
16 Craig Steltz DB 6-2 193 05/07/1986 SO Metairie, LA (Archbishop Rummel HS)
44 Kevin Steltz FB 5-9 243 04/06/1983 SR Metairie, LA (Archbishop Rummel HS)
6 Mario Stevenson CB 6-2 193 04/02/1983 SR Memphis, TN (Melrose HS)
96 Carnell Stewart DT 6-4 297 12/20/1983 SO River Ridge, LA (John Curtis Christian)
27 Curtis Taylor DB 6-2 196 07/13/1985 FR* Franklinton, LA (Franklinton HS)
46 Cameron Vaughn ILB 6-4 225 02/27/1984 SR Marrero, LA (Archbishop Shaw Jr HS)
25 Justin Vincent RB 5-11 205 01/25/1983 JR Lake Charles, LA (Barbe, Alfred M, HS)
97 Brandon Washington DT 6-4 295 07/15/1983 SR Tuscaloosa, AL (Central HS W Campus)
92 Tim Washington DE 6-4 270 07/16/1984 FR* Sugar Land, TX (Dulles HS)
76 Andrew Whitworth OT 6-7 320 12/12/1981 SR West Monroe, LA (West Monroe HS)
69 Garett Wibel OL 6-3 303 09/17/1983 JR Metairie, LA (Archbishop Rummel HS)
95 Kyle Williams DT 6-3 289 06/10/1983 SR Ruston, LA (Ruston HS)
52 Ryan Willis DE 6-4 266 10/05/1983 JR New Orleans, LA (Holy Cross School)
98 Claude Wroten DT 6-3 315 09/16/1983 SR Bastrop, LA (Bastrop HS)
19 Jonathan Zenon CB 6-0 172 08/02/1984 SO Breaux Bridge, LA (Breaux Bridge HS)
65 P.J. Zimmerman LS 6-4 220 04/07/1986 FR* New Orleans, LA (Jesuit HS)
89 Keith Zinger TE 6-5 255 10/09/1984 JR Leesville, LA (Leesville HS)
No Name Pos Ht Wt DOB Yr City, State (High School)
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 pm
I wish Matt Flynn had the experience to go with that performance…he almost beat the great NE that night! But couldn’t get the call in and time ran out…all in all though…great performance!
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:05 pm
My bad Buckeye, I hit submit before I realzed you were still on here.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:10 pm
It’s all good, man. JK.
Lot’s of future NFL starters on that roster and 1st rounders to boot. Pretty impressive.
Beanie Wells took one to the house on the first play from scrimmage, I believe. It was all downhill after that.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 pm
What ever happened to Ryan Perrilloux?
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:13 pm
One of the most successful dudes on that roster is #95 Kyle Williams. He is #95 DT for Buffalo Bills. He’s been a monster for them. Nobody really talks about him.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 pm
Perrilloux was either a late rnd or undrafted FA by Minnesota this year. Didn’t make the team.
That dude was the real deal in HS and his first year starting at LSU. He just couldn’t follow the rules.
His biggest problem was he lived life like he was in the NFL from his last year of HS until his 3rd year at LSU when Les Miles finally kicked him off the team.
He had plenty money, flashy cars, and plenty women. His family wasn’t exactly rich either.
Ended up finishing at Univ of North Alabama NCAA DI AA.
Terrible waste of talent.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 pm
All we really need is for one of the other WR’s to step up and play big and we can have a very good passing game. Ford has shown that he be another D Jackson but we need either Murphy or Chaz and especially if DHB could get it done that would be awesome. With his speed DHB could be a devastating weapon on the other side with Ford because of his size and raw speed. It’s frustrating to not have that going for us with the running game we have.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Correction: Jacksonville State located in North Alabama is where Perrilloux finished.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:22 pm
I don’t believe a single player that says that their approach to the game will be the same whether KC wins or loses, and I don’t mean that in a bad way.
Anyone that’s ever been a competetive athlete knows that the mindset is completely different in that situation.
Here’s what I hope happens; if KC loses, we play because we know we still have a shot. Enough said there.
If KC wins, we’re pissed that we missed it but we know it’s our own fault, and the 2011 season STARTS NOW.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Ford is faster than D Jackson, but Jackson is way more shifty and elusive. He can turn and cut then accellerate to full speed in a heartbeat. That dude is on another level.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 pm
I know they have different body types but in terms of bigplay ability I think Ford has that same ability. He can take simple plays to the house with very little effort it seems. That reverse was awesome he takes all the angles away due to his speed. Jackson is quicker laterally Ford is stronger runner of the two. Ford is nowhere near the route runner yet tho.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Ford is biult like Nap Kaufman if you ever see hi up close he is well put together not like a WR at all more like a scatback.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Ford is a stud!
Love the kids enthusiasm for the game, and his straight up ball hawking skills, on top of the 4.2 speed…steal of the draft, along w/ Veldheer.
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Hasn’t been this kind of excitement/tension around here in Dec for 7 years.
Actually get butterflies thinking about this weekend.
Can Oakland get past Indy? Can the Titans steal a win in KC? Will the Chargers stumble against in Cincy?
Can’t wait!!!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:03 pm
TO is out for the season but Cincy can still take a piss on SD in that cold weather.
Speaking of TO, tj said DHB is better than TO so Cincy is probably better off without him! Guarantee’s win for the Bengals!
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# Raider75 Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Hasn’t been this kind of excitement/tension around here in Dec for 7 years.
Actually get butterflies thinking about this weekend.
Can Oakland get past Indy? Can the Titans steal a win in KC? Will the Chargers stumble against in Cincy?
Can’t wait!!!!
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:24 pm
TJ,
To tell ya the truth I was on the fence with JC early in the season. I had my doubts about his fire and leadership ability. But as this season has worn on I’m warming to the guy. He’s been pretty impressive as of late. His pocket presence is improving. He seems to be feeling the rush, pulling down the ball and making plays with his legs when nothing else is there.
Is the guy ever going to be an elite QB in the class of Brady and Manning? Probably not. but not many are. The Raiders could do alot worse. I think you can win in this league with jason Campbell.
Another offseason with Hue Jackson and his young WR corps could do wonders for this guy. There is a lot of exciting young talent in Oakland. The needle is finally pointing up. Yet it seems half the people in here want to blow the whole thing up. Strange.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Buck it’s just much easier for people to naysay than anything else because it doesn’t require any thought. They don’t want to be called out later so they criticise. I just look at what players can do rather than what they can’t no player can do it all. Athough Mike Vick is making a run at it.
JC has very good talent I just didn’t know much about him so I held my judgement and let his play speak to me an dhwen he brought us back vs SD it said a lot. Not many can do that and the way he did it spoke volumns.
No he’ll never be what I would consider a great QB but we can win bigtime games with JC no question about that.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Lomg time no see fellas, I see Priest and Mista remain good friends….
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Bobby what it is man? you been hiding out?
No man I should just ignore the bore but sometimes I have to verbally slap the crap.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
The handling of the WR corps by the Raiders has been a head scratcher to me. Did anyone notice Soloman Wilcots refer to Murphy as the veteran of the group during the Jax game? Sad. Murphy and DHB still raw in their second year. Ford’s a rookie. Chaz often injured. JLH still inexperienced.
And to top it off they are all coached by an inexperienced and seemingly in over his head WR coach in Sanjay Lal. All these guys are young and full of exciting potential, but damn, this unit just screams for a veteran WR to mentor them. Teach them the little tricks of the trade and finer points of playing the position.
The failure by Al and this staff to bring in a veteran WR like Tory Holt or TJ to work with these guys in practice is baffling.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Priest
–Bobby what it is man? you been hiding out?–
I just don’t have as much time as I’d like, and we’re winning now (sort of), so I don’t spend all week pissed off and thinking how to fix us….
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Raiders will rack up another 500yds of offense and at least 250 on the ground;
Raiders will win the turnover battle by two;
Raiders will win the sack battle by 2 as well;
Raiders will win by two touchdowns, 28-14!
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Buck to be honest I didn’t want a vet in here stopping the progress of these young WR’s but I thought Chaz would be a player. He hasn’t and it has been mess quite frankly. I had high hopes for DHB and Murphy and neither of them have come closew to fulfilling anything near what you call a go to guy. I’m definitely convinced we need a vet now I realy wish we had done it in hindsight.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Mr. M Bush will rush for over 100yds,
one of the Raiders WRs will have a hundred yard game as will TE Mr. Z. Miller.
Defense will score at least one touchdown.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:57 pm
Buckeye,
Veterans help a little. But these “young” receivers have to step up. Its all on them. While I am sure there are better coaches than Lal, I am going to guess he is teaching them the basics on route running etc…
Who’s teaching Calvin Johnson? Who taught Larry Fitzgerald? Maclin? Deshaun Jackson? Who was the wily vet giving guidance to Johnny Knox?
Nope, these guys we got here just have to man up and play. And they need some competition. Not for teaching purposes…but straight up to replace them if necessary.
Offense has a lot going for it right now. A competent receiver would go a long way.
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Raiders’ WRs that are a lock to be back next year:
Ford & DHB;
Schilens and/or Murphy will be traded for a veteran WR plus a low round draft pick.
Raiders will trade one of their DB as well, they will probably draft one in the middle rounds.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Boise St. WRs are projected to go mid to late rounds Raiders will draft one of them in the 4th, take it to the bank!
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:07 pm
We’ve rolled with DHB, Murphy and Ford this year and we’ve already have 7 wins, the production has not been great but neither has been the QB play….might as well let them play next year too.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:08 pm
I agree they have to step up and produce. And, I think they have the ability to do so.
That’s just a lot of youth in one position group. I wouldn’t want an offensive line consisting of all rookies and second year players. Or a secondary. You need a little bit of a mix. Some veteran leadership on the field.
Don’t think for a second our young D-lineman like Houston and Shaugnessy aren’t benefitting greatly from the presence of Big richard seymour.
That’s all I’m saying.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:14 pm
And in the same vain you wouldn’t want to get too long in the tooth in a position group either. The Patriots got old and slow at LB a couple of years ago. Seau, Bruschi abd Vrabel. They needed an infusion of youth and speed. Like Mayo and Spikes.
Like I said, gotta find that balance. Have a mixture.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:18 pm
There’s no question this group would’ve benefitted from a vet WR but I thought we had one in Chaz he has just contributed NOTHING at all. I didn’t anticipate that. I thought he would miss maybe 4 games 5 at the most well he missed 12 and since he’s been back still nothing it’s very disappointing.
Can you imagine what that guy could’ve done had he been healthy all year that’s probably 60+ catches missing form this offense. It’s HUGE, he is the possession rec everyone talks about.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:30 pm
Every once in awhile we get a tantalizing glimpse of what DHB might become. A lil tease. That was a nice 20 yard catch he had last week along the sidelines. Caught it with his hands, away from his body. I was like damn, that was nice. But where is the consistency. Need to see that five or six times a game. Not once every three or four games. Frustrating.
I think the potential is there, though. Haven’t written him off yet. Next year he better have his DMac like breakout season. Geez.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:34 pm
I’m to frustrated with DHB to be objective about the kid anymore. He just seems like he’s satisfied with his production when he should be just the opposite. The kid needs to understand that HE has to demand the ball with his play and his mouth. He’s making like $6 mill a year. I know he works hard I’ve seen him but he’s here to make plays………….period
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:40 pm
According to that draft do over, we have 4 1st RDers:
1- McClain
2- Houston
3- Veldheer
4- Ford
Campbell, McFadden, Ware, and S Brown arwnot bad for 4th- 7th RD picks.
Best Raiders draft in 2 decades.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Chaz is not a vet WR.
He has to play 1 full season before people start calling him a vet.
We have a young WR who can benefit from a vet WR, and so will our entire offense.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:47 pm
‘Sup O?
How ya been?
BSPN is on in the background talking about a Buckeye investigation/Scandal. Ink for ink. Trading autographed memorabilia for tatoos. LOL. Hopefully it’s much ado about nuthin. Hope nobody is suspended for bowl game vs Arkansas.
BTW, what draft do over are you talkin about?
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:55 pm
G’night fellas.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:58 pm
Nite Buck.
December 22nd, 2010 at 10:59 pm
# buckeyeraider Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
The handling of the WR corps by the Raiders has been a head scratcher to me. Did anyone notice Soloman Wilcots refer to Murphy as the veteran of the group during the Jax game? Sad. Murphy and DHB still raw in their second year. Ford’s a rookie. Chaz often injured. JLH still inexperienced.
And to top it off they are all coached by an inexperienced and seemingly in over his head WR coach in Sanjay Lal. All these guys are young and full of exciting potential, but damn, this unit just screams for a veteran WR to mentor them. Teach them the little tricks of the trade and finer points of playing the position.
The failure by Al and this staff to bring in a veteran WR like Tory Holt or TJ to work with these guys in practice is baffling.
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Amen. Plus DHB is a huge bust.
December 22nd, 2010 at 11:17 pm
I’m willing to give DHB one more year, he has had an okay sophmore year (usually WRs suffer from a sophmore jinx anyway, before they become pro-bowlers).
He now remmebers how to catch a pass, he will have the same starting QB next year, all year (barring injury).
Accept it everyone Jason Campbell is the Raiders QB (unless they can swing another trade with NE for Tom Brady).
Raiders need to keep the tandem of Hue & Jason together, even if it means making Hue HC.
Raiders do need to get a quality WRs coach though, I hear Josh McDaniels is looking for work.
December 22nd, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
December 22nd, 2010 at 9:51 pm
The handling of the WR corps by the Raiders has been a head scratcher to me. Did anyone notice Soloman Wilcots refer to Murphy as the veteran of the group during the Jax game? Sad. Murphy and DHB still raw in their second year. Ford’s a rookie. Chaz often injured. JLH still inexperienced.
And to top it off they are all coached by an inexperienced and seemingly in over his head WR coach in Sanjay Lal. All these guys are young and full of exciting potential, but damn, this unit just screams for a veteran WR to mentor them. Teach them the little tricks of the trade and finer points of playing the position.
The failure by Al and this staff to bring in a veteran WR like Tory Holt or TJ to work with these guys in practice is baffling.
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I’ve been saying this for two years. The Chaz injury last year has had a devastating effect on our passing game. Starting DHB and Murphy as rookies was madness! And there’s no guarantee they’ll ever pan out. We’ve got to get a legit guy in here in the offseason.
December 22nd, 2010 at 11:45 pm
we should make a play for james jones if vjax isnt available to us. he wouldnt cost as much but he would be a low risk high reward type of guy. comes from a well coached team and is a physical possession wr we need. all of those green bay wrs can catch. if not him get tj from baltimore.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:02 am
Armond,
James Jones would be our #1 WR the day he walked in the door. Green Bay has an embarrassment of riches at WR, as evidenced by the play of Matt Flynn on Sunday night. He’s living proof that QBs are only as good as their supporting casts. That group has been great for Favre and Rodgers.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:13 am
I would be extatic if we got Donald Driver.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 am
top 4 rbs this year:
McFadden
Peterson
Johnson
Foster
only two have shot of making the playoffs (McFadden & CJ) and they both need each other to have a big game
this is now a QB driven league- we need to keep Jason & Hue together- bring in a veteran WR even if just as a #3
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:20 am
Raiders could finish 9-7 with 6-0 divisional record and still miss the playoffs, I never would have thought that would happen… oh wait I called it multiple times…at the beginning of the season.
Raiders to be 6-0 in the division and finish 9-7 or 10-6, but I thought we most definately make the playoffs.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:21 am
Retribution, I hate the Queefs but I’d also say Jamaal Charles is a top 4 RB. His yards per carry is crazy and he has more yards per game then McFadden who I believe is around 3rd in the NFL.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 am
James Jones would be a solid FA pick-up if Jackson is unavailable.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:13 am
Guy you’re right I forgot about Charles, he is a top tier RB, he’s the only top tier RB that has a great shot of making the playoffs.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:21 am
Raiders and Colts are pretty even in almost every category except 3 (3rd down, penalties, and rushing):
Indy is 4th in 3rd down% (around 45%) -Raiders 26th (34%)
Indy one of the top teams in fewest penalties with 70-Raiders with the most at 128
Raiders 2nd best in rushing 157 yds a game – Colts least rushing yds per game only 85 yds a game.
(Colts are top passing team, but the Raiders are one of the better D’s (5th) against the pass) so that category negates each other.
Raiders actually have quite a few more sacks than Indy 40-26. In fact Shaughnessy, Kelley, Seymour, and Wimbley together have as many sacks as the entire Indy D.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:29 am
Everyone on the Raiders sideline will be watching the scoreboard. I don’t care what they say.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:38 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:20 am
Raiders could finish 9-7 with 6-0 divisional record and still miss the playoffs,
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It tells me the Raiders are putting too much emphasis on besting division rivals, and not enough on opponents around the league in general. The road to the Super Bowl hasn’t gone through the AFC West in years. So while there’s a valid reason to put a little extra effort in beating AFC West opponents, since they’ll be facing each one twice, the ideal thing is to prepare for the other AFC divisions, and the NFC South and East, because those are the divisions the Super Bowl champions have come from in recent years. Heck, we didn’t even prepare for the NFC West, which made up for our primary NFC opponents this year. Losing to Arizona and SF? Priority one is winning the games you’re supposed to win. As usual, the Raiders forwent the basics and got ahead of themselves.
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:10 am
All these players saying if they heard the news it wouldn’t affect their play is TOTAL BULLSH1T!
If they find out they’ve been eliminated and they’re down by two scores they’ll mail it in. They may not intend to, but they will. Especially since Indy is playing for the Divsion.
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:16 am
If I’m Cable my pre-game speech goes something like this…
OK guys, it’s Christmas time. we open our gifts after the game and we give our family, teammates, fans and Mr. Davis a great gift in our 8th win of the season guaranteeing a .500 or better season!
If after the game we check the scores and we’re eliminated, well at least we can say we did our part and put up another W against one of the best QB’s of all time. A pretty good christmas gift for the Raiders Nation!
If we’re still in the hunt, we’re gonna go down to KC next week and kick some a$$ for the division title and a trip to the playoffs!!!!!!! NOW GET OUT THERE AND WIN THIS MUTHAFUGGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:52 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
And to add to post 102…and pimp slap everyone one of them for messing up! (If they do…just saying)
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:59 am
Colts run like Jerry said may be better than indicated. We’ll need Campbell to complete soem throws even with Feeney on the feild…
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:01 am
What the heck is wrong with people today?
http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_16922441
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:04 am
Mornin’ Nation!
Someone said it already, but it bears repeating: if KC wins and eliminates them before gametime and the players go out and roll over, then they didn’t deserve to make the playoffs anyway.
Whatever happens in KC on Sunday, go out and beat the living hell out of Manning!
Who would’ve thought the Colts would only be 3 point favorites at the beginning of the season?
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:07 am
Heck of an article by Stevie C on Veldheer:
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_16924584?source=most_viewed
I particularly liked this bit:
“Against the Kansas City Chiefs on Nov. 7, Chiefs defensive end Tamba Hali blew past Veldheer for a sack of Campbell on one play. Hali used the same move in overtime. This time, Veldheer responded with a block of Hali that enabled Campbell to complete a deep pass to wide receiver Jacoby Ford.”
I remembered watching the replay and seeing Veldheer run Hali out of the way on that play and thinking “Good job, kid.” Didn’t know that was the same move Hali had used earlier to beat him.
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:14 am
Having to deal with sh!t from Steelers fans here in Pittsburgh today because they’re all touching themselves over the anniversary of Franco Hararis’ illegal lucky catch. I may commit Christmas homicide.
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:33 am
Good Morning PA…that was 30 something years ago…was any of those fans born?
Yeah, that was one of the most crappiest pissed off days of my childhood! Even though Franco Harris apologized to Madden on the anniversary a few years back on MNF…I still hate that guy for that!
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:34 am
SNBPA, hopefully they lose tonight. Wouldn’t htat be a kick in the ol’ pouch!
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:35 am
Haha…and Carolina does something similar….that would be hilarious!
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:40 am
Colts run like Jerry said may be better than indicated. We’ll need Campbell to complete soem throws even with Feeney on the feild…
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Can’t say it enough, got to have a plan B.
The Jaguars just figured they would walk in and dominant both LOS last week, run the ball and stop the run and control the clock.
Well they went 3 and out a few times early, gave up a couple quick TD’s, averaged under 4 ypc a game, gave up the Colts season-high in rushing yards, and didn’t start to get in the game until they started throwing the ball (and keeping MJD on the sidelines.)
They had two 4th and 1’s they went for on MJD carries, and lost yardage both times.
I think the Colts will keep our running game somewhat in check (maybe 140 yards or so) and we will have to throw the ball close to 30 times to win this game.
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:41 am
21-16 Steelers… 11 seconds remaining… Panthers ball at the Steelers 49… the snap, Claussen(sp?) steps back, ducks away from Farrior, scrambles right throws deep middle, Ike Taylor pi— Oh my goodness, it went through his hands! Smith has it and is on his toes and finger tips, regains his balance, at the 10, 5, TOUCHDOWN PANTHERS!!!!!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:45 am
Haha! On his toes and finger tips…I like that!
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:46 am
good morning raider nation!
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:50 am
THAT SPEED DEMON SNAKE STABLER,LONG HAIR,SIDE BURNS AND ALL, RACING 4 THE RAIDERS ONLY TD.CLASSIC..
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:57 am
V jax is a talent, but he may get franchised by sd. Beside the fact that he is a jackass. I would take less production & higher character. He can’t be trusted not to pout, or be disruptive, or stay out of jail. Even a guy near the end that can be a possesion guy & mentor would be great in my book.
DHB will impact this game in a major way by running vertical routes forcing the 2 deep safties to back pedal or turn and run. This time his decoy value is actually important. However I hope they find him in some sideline stops & let him use his size to wall off yhe small DBS catch & run.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:01 am
Good morning Nation from a snowy UK.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:03 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot! What time you guysgetting in on Sunday?
Good Afternoon Neil!
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:04 am
Morning Hwnrdr!
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:15 am
Just got my first sporting news issue, pre X-mas gift, and the feature article and cover is on Cam Newton.
When asked the one QB, pro or college, that he watches and tries to emulate his game after? Cam’s answer:
Tim Tebow, lol
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:17 am
Who’s from Arizona ? I’m sure there’s someone on here from Arizona.Caught the news yesterday with houses being washed away in that state.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:20 am
Huh? Must have been a big flood…
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:21 am
If I was a coach I’d be telling my QB not to try and emulate Tebow.Not because he doesn’t have talent but because if he run’s the same way as Tebow does then he’ll be nothing but injured all the time.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:22 am
Plunketthead lives somewhere up in Northern Arizona I believe.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:23 am
It looked it Hwnrdr.It was like something from one those extreme weather shows on the Discovery channel.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:24 am
Thanks JFB,I knew someone said he lived there.Hope he’s okay.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:25 am
Wow, that’s nuts! Hope all that live there is ok!
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:27 am
Damn. PFT reporting Addai returning to practice.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:39 am
As much as people hate our so called vanilla defense this week vanilla is the best flavor. Don’t get fancy or cute, just line up & play 11 on 11, mix an occasional blitz up the gut, that is how you beat this team. We ate not the patsies that can run those exotic 3-4 zone blots schemes. Our guys in zone are brutal. We just need to bully them & let our front do the heavy lifting.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:40 am
Sorry I missed your posts Buckeye. I started my smoking session. I also have problems posting.
I didn’t hear about Ink for Ink issues, but I know Mich is involved. I blame Mich.
The draft do over was for the 2010 draft.
Later Buckeye, and I’m sorry for not responding faster.
Go Bucks!
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:42 am
By the way, shaugnessy is really flying under the radar he may finish with double digit sacks, & plays the run extremely well. Our d tackles get the press & they should but our young ends are no joke!
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:45 am
What a shame.PFT is also saying that Tom Brady has the flu.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:47 am
I know people say jax tried to pound them and failed, however there is a major difference between jax & us. Jax isn’t a vertical passing attack, they are short and medium passing team. This means the safties were free to squeeze down and essentially load the box against the run. The dolts will be afforded no such luxury. DHB & Ford going vert will force the safties out of run support.
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:53 am
Jc is right, now that we are finally past cables ridiculous qb blunder, we are forging a true identity on offense. Surprise it’s classic Davis, power run deep pass. Stick to your guns & do what you were built to do. Do it better than the guy your lined up with.
Davis is a genious, he picked the perfect qb & matched him with the perfect oc for his vision.
Impostor fans Al Davis owns you!
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:56 am
Off to get some dinner.
Have a great Thursday everyone.
…….and all the best for the Christmas Holidays!
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:22 am
Lots of testing to do….GO RAIDERS!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:27 am
Mele Kalikimaka Raider Nation.
Only one gift necessary to lift the spirits of the One Nation this holiday season, a Titan victory.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:29 am
Thanks for the concern but I built high and dry in North AZ.
This was a small town near the Virgin river that flooded. Heres a clip of a house going under.
http://www.lvrj.com/multimedia/House-in-Beaver-Dam-Arizona-falls-into-river-112281519.html
I have seen way worse floooding in Vegas over the years and right now Mt Charleston has no power untill Christmas at the earliest. Thats a big deal for Southern Nevada.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:31 am
More pics of houses being washed away
http://www.lvrj.com/
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:44 am
Looking forward to Marcel Reese adding some violence to his game, more blocks, more chips, he’s got the finess part down, we all know that, but can he target a player and block him out? Will he make the chip blocks as he leads the way?
I hope so, the fact is he needs to play more violently, more like a fullback and less like a wideout.
Other thoughts….the Raiders need a return man, an exclusive return man, it’s a weak part of our game.
Go Raiders!
Rumble son Rumble!
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:12 am
My thoughts this morning on draft needs….
1) Right side of O-line, has done surprisingly well considering some of the past performances, but we need to start grooming for the right side (Bruce Campbell aside)
2) Center, again, i like some of the things Satele does, but he’s also really good at whiffing and then quickly vacanting the area, like he forgot something in the locker room. (Seriously watch when he misses a block, then quickly goes to where someone else is blocking someone, its quite comical)
3) A return specialist, Jacoby has too much talent to be back there, and PR, well have we seen anything from a PR this year)
4) Another TE, although I am actually enjoying the Khalif Barnes experiment, let`s either get another blocking TE, or lets get Barnes a TE number, one of the two.
obviously more to come…
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:15 am
129.SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:27 am
Damn. PFT reporting Addai returning to practice.
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That’s good news! Hope he starts. Would rather see an out of shape Addai with tight hamstrings on the field than an in shape Donald Brown coming off a big game thirsting for more touches trying to prove that he deserves to be the Colts RB of the future.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:16 am
More Thoughts…..
Can anyone say the ROCK CARTRIGHT is NOT the BEST free agent pick up of this past off season!!
The guy is a special teams STUD!
It`s guys like Cartright that make the difference in games against evenly matched opponents`..
Another thought to ponder, do we beat SD in the first game without Cartright`s blocked punt..
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:21 am
We need to add a good CB.
Sign J Joseph!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:26 am
Wow, about the Arizona flooding. I know a thing or two about flooding down here in the N.O.
Hope everyone is safe over there and no casualties.
In the aftermath of Katrina two of the most amazing things I saw were:
A huge shrimp boat docked between a couple of two story homes where there was a tree behind it and a utility pole in front of it. The tree and the pole were undamaged so it took me a min to figure out how the hell the boat got in there. It came from over the top and settled down when the water receded.
The second was one of those huge $49.95 U-Haul trucks sitting on top of an Oak Tree. The truck was about 40 feet off the ground stuck in the tree. The branches did not snap. Held that big truck up there.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:27 am
If the Indy D coordinator were smart he would say ‘Screw it. Don’t even cover that DHB guy, he’s not gonna catch it anyway’.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:33 am
Both PFT guys picked the Raiders in the upset this week. Don’t know whether to be encouraged or worried.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:39 am
SilveNBlackPA,
Where`s the link to the PFT article, i`d appreciate reading it, thanks.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:42 am
Wassup Raider fans we been looking good this year
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:45 am
96.YoungAmerican Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:06 am
James Jones would be a solid FA pick-up if Jackson is unavailable.
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Yeah, James Jones would be a good pickup.
He has some upside.
The Raiders need to resign as many in house free agents to remain with the team.
I think it’s important to maintain some important internal player continuity for a team that is growing, coming together and learning how to win.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:46 am
Buckeye, where you at?
They reporting on Ohio State. Pryor and four other players gotta sit out the first 5 games next season because of those tatoos. They can play in the Sugar Bowl.
This is going to really screw up next season for Ohio State.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 am
Marshall may not be fired after the season. Think of it, we dont stop the run very well, but we are a decent pass defense. This isnt the eighties where you need a dominant run defense to win. You can be average or slightly below average against the run, as long as you have a high scoring offense. You take away the pass and make offenses use a time consuming run game, while you quick strike on offense. This will allow you to out distance your opponents, so to speak. for examples look no further than those 18-0 patsies, or brees and company, the colts win they won the super bowl, and even the greatest show on turf.
This isnt your fathers nfl.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:49 am
Pryor and the rest got suspended for selling Big 10 Championship rings, jerseys and gold pants given out for beating Michigan. Pryor and others must repay to regain eligibility.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:52 am
Buckeyes open up with Akron and Toledo. Play Mich St. game 5. Ohio St. is appealing length of suspension.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:52 am
What do you do with huff? is he worth big money? will he get big money offers from other teams? good thing is we have some flexibility where he is concerned, because of the emergence of our young safeties. how ever if he leaves we lose experience and depth. This will be interesting to follow.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:53 am
We need a Vet WR who can help the young guys develop, and I don’t think J Jones is that player.
We need a vet like Chad Johnson, TJ, etc…
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:54 am
That was a dumb move by pryor. He isnt good enough to leave early, and he needs every game next year so he can improve his stock for the nfl.
i just dont think this kid will be a good nfl qb.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:54 am
Not suspended for Bowl game against Arkansas because Univ. did not properly advise students.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 am
Troy Smith was also suspended at Ohio St. for receiving improper benefits. Don’t they ever learn.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 am
Roch R,
Here: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/23/week-16-picks/
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:59 am
The Bucks will win 5 games without Pryor. We play great defense, and we run well.
We will beat Mich again next year, and make it 9 consecutive wins! Print that!
Go Bucks!!!!!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
I would draft Pryor in the 3rd RD, if he was available.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:03 am
Those NCAA rules are dumb they shouldn’t have got suspended for that
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
Pryor is not worth a draft pick. Period. As for the rules violations…its not an issue of whether they are fair or not…its the rules required to play ball.
These players lack the discipline and basic respect for rules that often carries over into their professional careers.
You have a chance to play NFL football and get a college education from a great institution. The school provides living arrangements, food, etc. So just grin and bear it.
You got people working 2 and 3 dead end jobs just to pay to go to school part time at some third tier school with no chance of Millions of Dollars waiting a year from now.
Not too mention those that just can’t afford school at all.
Follow the rules or do something else with your time!
See Maurice Clarett
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:09 am
Any veteran WR the Raiders bring in is for the purpose of starting and PUSHING one of these underachieving youngsters to the bench or off the roster entirely.
I am not big into the veterans being able to teach so much that it turns plodding players into good players.
Coaches do that! I will BET Sanjay Lal is teaching the fundamentals. Chaz is hurt and DHB and Murphy are just raw!
Who “mentored” Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Johnny Knox, DeShaun Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Hakeem Nicks and others…..that’s right…no veteran that was any good.
Good players just freekn get it and start performing….the rest get phased out of the league
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:09 am
Pryor is worth a daft pick 2-4! Period!!!
He has a great size, strong arm, and he can run, so he will be drafted!
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:10 am
# Raider O Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:00 am
I would draft Pryor in the 3rd RD, if he was available.
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Tebow has terrible mechanics, and isnt a very good passer. He is a decent athlete.
pryor has terrible mechanics, is a better athlete, a better passer and has a stronger arm than tebow, so im sure he will get drafted.
Unfortunately he reminds me of a less athletic version of vince young, and isnt the passer that young was. I wonder if he can succeed in the nfl.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:10 am
He has great size, ….
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 am
“This isnt your fathers nfl.”
I disagree I still think teams that can, late in the season, run the ball well and stop the run go further in the playoffs. Sure there are more domed stadiums now than in the 1980’s but you still have to beat tough teams in rough weather on the road in January and in places like Pitt, Baltimore, Green Bay, NE, and New York.
The greatest show on turf was the exception and if you look at it 9 times out of 10 the best defense wins the playoffs games especially for road teams.
I would rather us be a team that can run the ball well and stop the run, than be a greatest show on turf style of team.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 am
Id take Kaepernick over Pryor he has more upside
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:14 am
Having to deal with sh!t from Steelers fans here in Pittsburgh today because they’re all touching themselves over the anniversary of Franco Hararis’ illegal lucky catch. I may commit Christmas homicide.
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Remember it like it was yesterday— I was a kid watching in the livingroom next to the Christmas tree–
Oakland was just about to knock off Pitts and probably would have gone to the Superbowl
and then that lucky peice of junk play.
We got Frenchy Fooqua’d
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:12 am
I’m not a huge fan of Pryor, and I don’t think he is ready for the NFL. I also think he has a lot of talent, so he is worth a mid RD pick like the 3rd.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:13 am
# SnB Production Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
Pryor is not worth a draft pick. Period. As for the rules violations…its not an issue of whether they are fair or not…its the rules required to play ball.
These players lack the discipline and basic respect for rules that often carries over into their professional careers.
You have a chance to play NFL football and get a college education from a great institution. The school provides living arrangements, food, etc. So just grin and bear it.
You got people working 2 and 3 dead end jobs just to pay to go to school part time at some third tier school with no chance of Millions of Dollars waiting a year from now.
Not too mention those that just can’t afford school at all.
Follow the rules or do something else with your time!
See Maurice Clarett
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I agree in part, however i would argue that there are plenty of so called high character guys in the nfl, that broke all kinds of rules in college. The difference being they didnt get caught. after all these are kids, and kids make bad choices. i would suspend the moral judgments, unless we are talking about drug dealers and domestic violence.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:14 am
I like that Vegas kid too. I would draft him or Pryor.
Pryor played against better talent, and comes from a big program.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:15 am
I like Kellen Moore from Boise when he comes out he’ll probably go in the 3rd so it’s a good deal
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:17 am
If u look at what Kaepernick did its pretty good…They smashed CAL they beat Boise St…..he threw for 2800 yards and 20 TD’s and rushed for a 1100 yards and rushed for 20 TD’s
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:17 am
# Silver-and-black666 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:11 am
“This isnt your fathers nfl.”
I disagree I still think teams that can, late in the season, run the ball well and stop the run go further in the playoffs. Sure there are more domed stadiums now than in the 1980’s but you still have to beat tough teams in rough weather on the road in January and in places like Pitt, Baltimore, Green Bay, NE, and New York.
The greatest show on turf was the exception and if you look at it 9 times out of 10 the best defense wins the playoffs games especially for road teams.
I would rather us be a team that can run the ball well and stop the run, than be a greatest show on turf style of team.
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its a matter of taste and preference, both styles can and do work. the saints were a terrible rushing defense as were that super bowl colt team. the lambs were barley middle of the road. The thing is that these teams could run the ball, you must do that on the road. Stopping the run, eh. This really depends on what kind of scoring offense you have. When you can score 24-35 points a game, stopping the run isnt quite as important as it is for a team that doesnt score.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:18 am
Only thing about Kellen Moore is he’s 2 inches shorter than Gradkowski
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:19 am
# 17yearsold17yearfan Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:15 am
I like Kellen Moore from Boise when he comes out he’ll probably go in the 3rd so it’s a good deal
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i dont like moore at all. i think he is the new tim rattay
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:22 am
We need another good draft, upgrade the coaching staff, and sign our FAs & add a few more in FA.
Sign J Joseph!!!
Nnamdi & Joseph will allow us to be very effective playing man. We can load the box (8-9 players), and dare teams to beat our CBs.
Sign J Joseph!!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
If Gradkowski could start games for us Moore has to be worth a look he’s a hard worker but has skill he’s accurate and he throws deep good enough and he knows his playbook just as good as his coach
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:25 am
I would love to pick up Austin Pettis
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:25 am
We can also rush the passer, so having another good/ great CB can improve our pass & run defense.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
We need a WR bad Ford is great but we need a true #1 that can stay on the field those are our two biggest needs WR and QB
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:28 am
# SnB Production Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:06 am
You got people working 2 and 3 dead end jobs just to pay to go to school part time at some third tier school with no chance of Millions of Dollars waiting a year from now.
Not too mention those that just can’t afford school at all.
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Dont get me wrong i agree in principal. Do the right thing should be the bottom line. However we cant compare joe public grinding out a work schedule to earn his college education to blue chip athletes. The blue chip plays ball than anyone else, this IS how he earns his education. Joe public cant do it. the blue chip is a special breed, they’re earnings are reserved for the truly elite in their field.
Just as in the public arena, not everyone will be the ceo of a major corporation. again only a select few will occupy this role, therefore the rules are different. Im not saying its right, but it is the reality.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:30 am
# 17yearsold17yearfan Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:24 am
If Gradkowski could start games for us Moore has to be worth a look he’s a hard worker but has skill he’s accurate and he throws deep good enough and he knows his playbook just as good as his coach
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Grads should never have started any where at any time he is terrible. i think moore will be better than grads, however I cant see him being anything more than a career back up. A jason garret type.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:30 am
All I know is Austin Pettis will be a great player
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:34 am
The reason some of us are asking for a vet WR is the fact that Sanjay Lal is the WRs coach. We also need a vet WR to help our passing game. Every team is different and they have different situations.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:35 am
We also need a center Rt and CB
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:41 am
# 17yearsold17yearfan Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:27 am
We need a WR bad Ford is great but we need a true #1 that can stay on the field those are our two biggest needs WR and QB
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Wr is a need, I wouldnt say its the biggest need. Qb definitly isnt the biggest need. Jc is getting it done. What qb in the draft will be better than Jc is now? Luck, Newton? maybe but its a crap shoot, no other qbs in the draft are on par with those two guys. niether Newton or lcuk will be on the board when we draft. there are no free agent qb i would rather have than JC outside of the great Eagle 7 mike vick, and he isnt going anywhere. Young is a head case that hasnt been able to stay healthy, Mcnabb is aging fast. i think Jc is as good as it gets going into next year.
Biggest needs right side of the o-line, olb, and depth in the secondary, as in a corner to play opposite of area 21
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:43 am
I honestly thin if Newton plays great in the Championship that Al will find some way to draft him
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:43 am
Young, and Pettis from Boise would be good Wr to draft and Hankerson from Miami because they would still be there in the 2nd with Green, Blackmon(if he comes out), and Jones being gone inn the first or we can get the center wisnewski from Penn St I know you guys would like him since you saw his uncle play back in the day
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:45 am
You could grab Pettis up in the 3rd and Young will be a 4th or 5th round pick because of his size….5′9…
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:47 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain I can’t really get behind Jc he’s doing alright now but I can’t get over stuff like the 49ers game I do agree with another cb and oline but I don’t think olb is that big of a need
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:48 am
I wouldn’t be suprised if the Raiders converted DHB to TE seeing as he is the best blocking wideout this side of Hines Ward. lol
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:49 am
Free agnent wr, maybe donald driver. He is old but he can fill that mentor role, and still has enough in the tank to be that 3rd down possesion guy, (think mushin muhammad in his last years in carolina). He wont cost much, and wont take too many reps away from or developing youth. plus he has that shiny super bowl ring and will get instant respect in the locker room.
If your looking for a splashy big name, try sidney rice. however i think he is a little one dimensional.
personally i would go with driver, he would provide leadership to that position group, and doesnt have to be on the field as much to do it. he will do what javon walker was supposed to do.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:51 am
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:43 am
I honestly thin if Newton plays great in the Championship that Al will find some way to draft him
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This would be my dream come true!!!!! having him learning behind jc, wow!
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:51 am
Al loves him some Heisman Trophy winners
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
On a side note did anybody see ESPN this morning Mel Kiper was asked if the Panthers should give up on Clauson and get Luck and Kiper was still defending Clauson it was hilarious
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:55 am
Alot of people still believe in Clausen and I wouldnt be surprised if AJ Green gets picked with the 1st pick..
I’d pick up Luck if I was them but who knows
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:02 am
Steve Smith from Carloina put his home on the market…
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:06 am
200.17yearsold17yearfan Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:52 am
On a side note did anybody see ESPN this morning Mel Kiper was asked if the Panthers should give up on Clauson and get Luck and Kiper was still defending Clauson it was hilarious
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Carolina would be stupid if they didn’t pick Luck.
They can always trade Clausen for a pick or something.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:10 am
Silver-and-black666 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:02 am
Steve Smith from Carloina put his home on the market…
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I saw that as well, I’d take him in a heartbeat.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:10 am
Luck is gonna have a terrible time in Carolina….They have a terrible O_Line….Steve Smith is gettin old and there run game is diminishing with Injuries
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:12 am
Rod Woodson said that the Raiders are going to beat the Colts!
-Vet WR
love to see the angry little man wearing silver and Black
Also could see the old man bring in Chad Johnson or Housh/Hue Jackson connection.
Love to see the Raiders sign Kevin Boss, Bo Scaife or Mercedis Lewis.
Also would people be more inclined to have Reece play more if he was labeled not as a fullback but the H-Back/F-Back type of position. Reece really does fit that description better than a Fullback.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:12 am
The Raiders need to concentrate of drafting O-Line and add a DT who is a strong athletic beast, who is about 310-320 pounds.
They need to add a big target TE or WR who can run routes and has soft hands.
They can draft the CB’s later in the draft to add more depth.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:14 am
205.PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:10 am
Luck is gonna have a terrible time in Carolina….They have a terrible O_Line….Steve Smith is gettin old and there run game is diminishing with Injuries
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Agreed. I feel sorry for whoever ends up being the coach over there in Carolina. They have a long way to go to be relevant again. Losing Smith will not help either.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:14 am
Is this one of the first years in memory where a lot of teams would be willing to offer some big time offers to get into the No. 1 draft spot. Carolina really could get a lot of players/draft picks for moving from the No. 1 pick.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:16 am
I dont know about draftin o-line to early in the draft….This years draft isnt a very good class for O-Linemen…There alot of big DT’s available…. We picked up Veldheer in the 3rd and I believe he will be our starter for a long time….
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:18 am
188.PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:30 am
All I know is Austin Pettis will be a great player
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Agreed!
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:19 am
I weant Austin Pettis on this team so bad it’s not even funny….I think we can get a good right tackle in free agency
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:20 am
210.PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:16 am
I dont know about draftin o-line to early in the draft….This years draft isnt a very good class for O-Linemen…There alot of big DT’s available…. We picked up Veldheer in the 3rd and I believe he will be our starter for a long time….
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C/G STEFAN WISNEWSKI is who they should target with that 2nd Round pick or trade the 2nd rounder and the 4th to move up to get him.
Austin Pettis should be targeted also potentially.
Jerrell Powe is a beast DT.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
194.PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:45 am
You could grab Pettis up in the 3rd and Young will be a 4th or 5th round pick because of his size….5′9…
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Pettis should be there in Round 2….but not Round 3.
Unless he runs a bad 40.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
The only thind about Wisnewski is that he is alil small and has problem with big players
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
I talked up Clausen too much and too long to give up on him. My pride won’t allow it!
Seriously though, I do still believe in Clausen. Part of 1 season on a team that bad with a coach that doesn’t care and guys (other than Steve Smith) that make our WR corps look like Brown and Rice? C’mon, man. Can’t tear the kid down too badly for that.
That said, Carolina is insane if they don’t take Luck. You can flip Clausen for a decent draft pick to another team.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:22 am
There’s alot of available possesion recievers available around 2 and 3
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:23 am
215.PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
The only thind about Wisnewski is that he is alil small and has problem with big players
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He not that small. He is around 305 pounds….be is bigger than Satele I believe.
It’s in the blood with him. He will be solid.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:24 am
Everything I’ve read on Wisniewski says he needs to add mass and strength to his lower body.
Which is, you know, what NFL strength & conditioning coaches are for.
Draft him if he’s there and don’t think twice about it.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:25 am
Is anyone else getting the warm fuzzies about Scatarat blundering along in the D of C?
Look at what Snyder had done there with a storied franchise.
He has tried everyway possible to win. From hireing a great college to hiring a former Redskin coach who won three SB’s at the Dof C to hiring the greatest and most expensive coaching staff ever.
They all failed. Theres no proven way to win the SB.
Thats what makes Al Davis so great. He does it his way.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:27 am
The thing I love about Pettis is that he catches with his HANDS and he makes the tough catches!
Reminds me of Fitzgerald in that regard.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:28 am
We have the worst conditioning coach in the NFL and his name id Brad Roll
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:30 am
222.PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:28 am
We have the worst conditioning coach in the NFL and his name id Brad Roll
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I agree. Can you imagine if the Raiders had a solid conditioning coach?
A conditioning coach like who the Pats and Steelers have?
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:31 am
Not having Chaz on the field this season is the reason we have found out about Ford, so it is not all bad.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:31 am
The thing I love about Austin Pettis is that he catches with his HANDS and he makes the tough catches!
Reminds me of Fitzgerald in that regard!
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Wiz stack has dropped but I think it could be just the fact that he has switched positions a couple of times. Find a home and leave him there.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:32 am
Im going to my first game suday vs the colts and i am ridding bart any tips or heads up about anything? thanks
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:33 am
If we could pick up Wiz,Pettis and Kaepernick I would wet myself
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:35 am
No way is Al thinking about Cam Newton.
He is probaly set on giving Jason another year. He might look at Orten or Palmer or someone else who has been around for his QB.
If Al trades up it will be to get some help for his defense. I would not be suprised to see Al and Cheating Bill make another deal.
Al loves to trade up for fast backfield players
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
I would say education but I bet its too late
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:38 am
Theres not to many oustanding defensive backs in the 1st round so why would he trade up for 1….
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:41 am
I could see Al goin for Curtis Brown from Texas in the 2nd.. He’s fast and big
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:42 am
The good thing about corers is you can find them late in the draft, yo dont need to take one high unles its a cant miss guy like prime, how often do those guys come around?
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:43 am
Last year……Joe Haden will be amazing
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:45 am
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:43 am
Last year……Joe Haden will be amazing
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Not bad but we dont need a star, just a reliable solid guy
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:46 am
Haha yea I feel it but man Hadens looks real good
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:47 am
Actually I think ware will be fine i dont think it was smart to shut him down. They did it because we are still technically alive for the post season, and wanted to get the vets in, i think it was a mistake. get him on the field let him take his lumps, and hit the ground running next year. This team doesnt deserve a play foo spot, nor will they go anywhere if they do sneak in by miracle.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:48 am
play off spot*
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:52 am
When it comes to corners this year, there’s Patrick Petersen and Prince Amukamara and then there’s everyone else. Both are probably top 10 picks.
Amukamara is basically Al’s wet dream of a corner, but he’ll be looooonnngggg gone.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:54 am
What if Jc and the raiders beat indy, and jc plays well. will he get respect in here then? it wouldnt change my opinion, you already know what i think.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:58 am
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:33 am
If we could pick up Wiz,Pettis and Kaepernick I would wet myself
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That’d be pretty sick. As long as everyone understands Kaepernick is gonna need to sit at least a year.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:59 am
Colt RB Joseph Addai expects to play against us…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-colts-addai
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Yea Kaepernick is gonna have to sit but what I think is interesting is he has the same throwing motion that Flacco had…. I like Kaepernick sitting behing Campbell and letting Hue coach him up
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:04 pm
PurpleDrank,
I could deal with that.
And good call on Curtis Brown, by the way. Fast and great in man coverage. Likes to lay the wood too. Should be there in the second round. Might have to trade up in the round.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Gates is out rest of regular season and Chargers expect to go to play offs. Loathe them!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Rite on…. Yea Curtis Brown is Interesting…Seems like he was made for the Raiders
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Anyone interested in Carson Palmer? Chances are he won’t be back with Cinncy next year.. Could be one of those classic Raider vet signings.. I would very much like it!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Colt injuries.
Austin Collie WR, Kelvin Hayden CB, Charlie Johnson T, Fili Moala DT, Jamey Richard G, Mike Hart RB, Joseph Addai RB, Clint Session LB, Jacob Tamme TE, Jaimie Thomas G, Bob Sanders S, Jerraud Powers CB, Cody Glenn LB, Chip Vaughn S, Anthony Gonzalez WR, Dallas Clark TE, Brandon King CB, Devin Moore RB, Melvin Bullitt S, Jordan Hemby CB, Kevin Thomas CB, Tom Santi TE, David Caldwell S, Jamie Silva S, Brett Swenson K
Indy stopped Jacksonvilles #1 ranked rushing attack last week end.
With so many dinged in the secondary we have to go air to win this…
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:08 pm
This is a Silver&Black playoff run. The Raiders losing seasons can also come to an end on sunday.Keys to a Raider win:
1)The corners must play aggressive on passing and running plays.
2)Pressure on Payton, Seymour will get doubled so L. Houston should make them pay. L.Houston has played extremely well as a rookie. I hope sunday will be one of his better days.
3)Great special teams with the absence of JLH. Johnny Lee Dearth Higgins does not belong on any special teams unit in the NFL with the exception of the Denver Broncos.Sabatage would be the reasoning for a JLH and Denver Bronco joint venture.
4)Plays to quickly get the ball out of Jason’s hands. Hue has done a fantastic job so far. I know he will try something to ease the pass rush pressure. Receivers get ready to block!!! The Raiders will need all 11 to win this one.
Raiders Be With You
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Im not a fan of Carson being on this team
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:09 pm
247. I started that whole Carson thing on here weeks ago…:)
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
I think Terrelle Pryor will not be earlier than a 4th round pick.
And he is nowhere near the athelete Tebow is, not even close. Tebow put up great combine numbers for a RB, some of the best ever for a QB (highest vertical leap of any QB ever and best 3 cone drill of any player EVER AY ANY POSITION).
I doubt any of Newton’s 40, vertical, 3-cone and bench press will be better than Tebow’s.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Palmer’s done. Arm strength gone and decision making is horrible anymore. If he’d want to come here as a backup and not make noises about starting, fine. Otherwise, do not want.
I say it run it down Indy’s throat. DMac >>>>> MJD
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Nmandi21……. MJD was really banged up and was running at 75%
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I wouldn’t even kick the tires on Carson Palmer or Donovan McNabb.
Unless Campbell just face plants these last two games, he has earned the right to be the QB in 2011.
Than no system complaints, looking over his shoulder stuff, none of that.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:14 pm
Tebow ran like a 4.7 at the Combine…….Not very Impressive…..Haha Jason Campbell ran a 4.69
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:15 pm
What we need is simply a possession reciever, someone who will attack the ball, and catch the 4-8 yrd routes.
We have the clear out WR – See DHB, Ford.
The hope that is Chaz Schillens, and what Murphy at times shows flash of is that possession reciever that wants the ball, that will go up and get the ball, a la Wes Welker (if only).
My biggest issue with Murphy is that at times it seems he’s only trying to get the Pass Interference call and not trying to get the ball. (Not to mention a few aligator arm plays)
Go get a blue collar, slow in the forty, guy that catches bricks for fun. That’s the missing ingredient IMO…
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Tim Tebow ran a faster 20 yard shuttle than Jahvid Best and the best 60 yard shuttle of any RB, QB and every WR but 2.
He ran a faster 3 cone drill than Deon Sanders!!!
But since he is white, he doesn’t get considered a great athlete, while Terrelle Pryor is.
Nonsense!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
One more thing, I need to go on the record here in Raider Land as saying I AM a Jason Campbell guy.
Yeah we all poke and prod, but I am declaring, I am going to attend JCamp U. I
He’s a magician out there, he sustains drives, and plays the PA perfectly which is why we are only going to get better with Jason Campbell at the helm.
He’s calm in the storm, and he knows the one truth that we all need to know….When it breaks down put it in McFadden’s hands.
(I still recall the look that McFadden gave boller on the 4 and 3 in Jax, McFadden was right there! And his look said “didn’t you get the memo, I’m the man around here” for that play alone, Boller should never see the field again as a Raider)
Jason Campbell is a GOOD qb, when was the last time the Raider nation could say we have a GOOD qb.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Tebow ran a 4.72 at the combine, Jason Campbell ran a 4.72 at the combine.
Campbell ran a 4.69 at his campus day, but those are biased. Jamarcus ran a 4.6 at his LSU day, lol.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Hey JFB, stop smoking Tebow’s w@ng, stop buying the hype, outside of a few plays the Raiders ATE him up.
And how long do you think he’ll be able to throw up those ducks before safeties around the league just start playing center field and pick’ing him steady.
Tebow is a wanker, stop the hype, stop buying the hype. Or you can choose to move to Denver and trade your wardrobe for a barrell, and some suspenders.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Jason Campbell is an average QB, and it has been awhile since we had an average QB, so I will hook my saddle to him in 2011.
19th in QB rating with #2 rushing attack screams mediocrity. What’s the guy with the #1 rushing attack (Cassel) doing with his first year in a new system?
#5 QB rating, 24 TD’s to 6 turnovers. That is a good QB.
Campbell is average, and I can live with average for now.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:17 pm
Tim Tebow ran a faster 20 yard shuttle than Jahvid Best and the best 60 yard shuttle of any RB, QB and every WR but 2.
He ran a faster 3 cone drill than Deon Sanders!!!
But since he is white, he doesn’t get considered a great athlete, while Terrelle Pryor is.
Nonsense!!!
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is it always about race with you?
Please tebow is not the runner that pryor is. combine speed and football speed are two different things.
tebow is nowhwre near not even in the same catagory as Newton. newton is a btter qb hands down, and a better runner.
i know your on tebow’s nutz but give me a break.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Campbell sucks. Get over it!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:35 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Jason Campbell is an average QB, and it has been awhile since we had an average QB, so I will hook my saddle to him in 2011.
19th in QB rating with #2 rushing attack screams mediocrity. What’s the guy with the #1 rushing attack (Cassel) doing with his first year in a new system?
#5 QB rating, 24 TD’s to 6 turnovers. That is a good QB.
Campbell is average, and I can live with average for now.
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This is not cassels first year in that system or team, he was there with haley last year, also he has dwayne bowe for the second year in a row. just because you change coordiantors doesnt mean the system has changed very much.
JFB you sound like just another hater where Jc is concerned, just admit you dont like him. you only say you accept him so when he wins people dont blast you for being wrong.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:35 pm
228.PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:33 am
If we could pick up Wiz,Pettis and Kaepernick I would wet myself
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Yep! Those guys are FOOTBALL players who have the athletic skills and smarts to be big time contributors to the Raiders.
The team needs to use the draft template they used in last years draft and use that same formula for every draft. That way they can keep reloading legit talent.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Tebow was throwing jump passes in the raiders game. jump passes? its bad whena point guard leaves his feet to pass, but a qb?!?!?!/
What a joke
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
F TeBLOW!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Wonder if Campbell has Herrera deliver some of AD’s Depends to the locker room to change at half time. He seems to piss in his drawers during the first part of the game.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 pm
cassel played for wiess in n.e so this is not his first year in that system! you cant compare his situation to jc, apples and oranges, sorry
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Palmer is done!
Would rather have Kolb!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Known jc haters club
aig, alex7, jmcclain, exlawhateveryournameis
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
272.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Known jc haters club
aig, alex7, jmcclain, exlawhateveryournameis
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LMFAO! Good one!
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Not bad for a guy that spells the, tha. lol
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:44 pm
http://www.jchatersclub.com
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Mistic1,
This is Cassell’s first year in the Charlie Wiess’s system.
If Hue Jackson leaves next year, will you consider 2011 not Jason Campbell’s first year in whatever system is in place?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Cassell with Weiss in New England?
Cassell was a sophmore in college when Weiss left.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
tebow is nowhwre near not even in the same catagory as Newton. newton is a btter qb hands down, and a better runner.
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Do you think the NFL draft will agree?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
# Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Known jc haters club
aig, alex7, jmcclain, exlawhateveryournameis, JFb (closet hater)
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
I think Newton will be drafted before Tebow was drafted
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Cassell with Weiss in New England?
Cassell was a sophmore in college when Weiss left.
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Same system different coordinator
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:50 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:47 pm
tebow is nowhwre near not even in the same catagory as Newton. newton is a btter qb hands down, and a better runner.
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Do you think the NFL draft will agree?
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I hope they dont and he falls to us, but yes I do think most people know that cam is far superior to your bust, i mean your boy teabag er tebow
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:51 pm
239.SilverNBlackPA Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:52 am
When it comes to corners this year, there’s Patrick Petersen and Prince Amukamara and then there’s everyone else. Both are probably top 10 picks.
Amukamara is basically Al’s wet dream of a corner, but he’ll be looooonnngggg gone.
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I don’t know if anybody watched the game but Amukamara got schooled when Nebraska played OU in the Big 12 championship.
I don’t know about Peterson, but I watched Amukamara a couple of times this year just to see what the hype was about. I wasn’t all that impressed.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm
281.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Cassell with Weiss in New England?
Cassell was a sophmore in college when Weiss left.
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Same system different coordinator
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Just admit u made a mistake! JC haters will forgive U! lol
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:54 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:52 pm
281.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:49 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:46 pm
Cassell with Weiss in New England?
Cassell was a sophmore in college when Weiss left.
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Same system different coordinator
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Just admit u made a mistake! JC haters will forgive U! lol
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LMAO!!!!! ooops, should have said wiess system
happy exlax
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:01 pm
228.PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:33 am
If we could pick up Wiz,Pettis and Kaepernick I would wet myself
^^^^^^^^
Yep! Those guys are FOOTBALL players who have the athletic skills and smarts to be big time contributors to the Raiders.
The team needs to use the draft template they used in last years draft and use that same formula for every draft. That way they can keep reloading legit talent!
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:02 pm
#227; yes bart is the best way to the game unless you can go with a limo full of hot ladies
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:08 pm
If Hue leaves this year (could happen) and Campbell struggles to start next year, I’m sure many people will be banging on the whole another year another new system deal.
But in regards to Cassell, he gets the whole 6 degrees of seperation from OC treatment.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Cam Newton idolizes Tim Tebow.
Said so himself.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Yea because Tebow is making big bucks and throwin lame ducks
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
JFb (closet hater)
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I have stated that he has earned the right to be the QB in 2011 based upon his play this year.
I wouldn’t give him a contract extension, but give him his $6 million next year and see what he can do.
He has changed from a guy who plays well in the first half and than falls apart at the end of games, to a guy who gets off to slow starts but plays more of his game in the second half. This is a major improvement for him.
Still like to see him put together maybe 4 straight solid halves, before I can elevate him to anything beyond an average QB.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:27 pm
i don’t see drafting wiz’s kid high, if we are lacking anything at center it is size to handle the big nose tackles, wiz doesn’t have that.. when you watch the replays, satele is always downfield blocking.. i think the weak link on our line is carlisle.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Funny how people saw the same game last Sunday but came away with opposite opinions on how Tebow played. Other than the long run, I thought the guy looked horrible. I think he’d be a hell of an RB/FB/TE type though.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
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