Still no Seymour as Raiders begin practice
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, December 23rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour remained absent from practice with a hamstring strain during the Raiders’ media availability window Thursday, increasing the possibility he won’t be able to play against the Indianapolis Colts.
Offensive tackle Langston Walker was on the field but without a helmet, assistant a line coach giving pointers to Mario Henderson. Henderson will start if walker has not completed concussion protocol.
Defensive coordinator John Marshall told the media extra film study was necessary this week to deal with the tempo set by quarterback Peyton Manning.
That being the case, maybe that’s where everyone was during the team’s open locker room session, during which fewer players were available than at any time I can remember.
Saw Tommy Kelly, Sam Williams, Shaun Bodiford, Stanford Routt, Bruce Davis and Jarvis Moss, and Cooper Carlisle. John Henderson came in before closing time and wasn’t much interested in talking. Jarvis Moss made his way across the room a couple of times.
More to come . . .
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December 23rd, 2010 at 1:15 pm
1st
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Seymour would be a huge loss.
Edge pass-rushers have very little impact on Peyton, but the up front rush is very impactful.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:20 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:08 pm
If Hue leaves this year (could happen) and Campbell struggles to start next year, I’m sure many people will be banging on the whole another year another new system deal.
But in regards to Cassell, he gets the whole 6 degrees of seperation from OC treatment.
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Not really, they are still running the same system, a spread version of the wc offense. Maybe the terminology, perhaps the flavor of the play calling is a bit different but it is essentially the same offense. Thats why dion branch was able to easily reintegrate into the offense.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Riveting, Jerry…
A report on which players you witnessed walking across the locker room..
Pulitzer material…
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Mario Henderson at RT is a nightmarish thought against Indy
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Cam Newton idolizes Tim Tebow.
Said so himself.
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and???? so he looks up to the guy he backed up, that is now starting in the nfl, this has nothing to do with the fact that he couldnt teabag couldnt carry newton’s jock with a pack mule in the back of a dump truck
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Well Hue Jackson coached along with Tom Cable and under Paul Hackett before at USC.
So no matter what if Hue leaves, and Cable and Hackett stay, I guess it will be the same system as well.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:24 pm
I don’t know if this link has been posted yet, but here’s a list of the 50 biggest draft busts of all time:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/529369-the-50-biggest-nfl-draft-busts-of-all-time#page/2
God, what a lot of qbs on that list! Hey Al, pay attention
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Well Mistic1, that’s why they play the game.
Nothing is a sure thing, especially Scam Newton and his 12 play college offensive playbook.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Well Mistic1, that’s why they play the game.
Nothing is a sure thing, especially Scam Newton and his 12 play college offensive playbook.
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ROFL Scam newton
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:32 pm
i don’t see drafting wiz’s kid high, if we are lacking anything at center it is size to handle the big nose tackles, wiz doesn’t have that.. when you watch the replays, satele is always downfield blocking.. i think the weak link on our line is carlisle.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
Scam Newton?!?!?!? why didnt i think of that, good one bra
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
If we dont have to move up to pick him up and he falls into our lap then I say pick up but I wouldnt want to jump up to get him
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
the raiders are at the point, we can draft the best athlete available.. last years draft was one of the best of all time.. we have a few upgrades to make, don’t know if the draft can supply them.. wide receiver for example, i think plax would be a better signing than anyone we can get in the later rounds.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
U have no I dea what kind of shape Plax is in…Not every1 can pull a Vick get out of jail and be real good.. To pick up Pettis in the 3rd is not going to hurt us neither will picking up Curtis Brown in the 2nd
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
# r8rwill Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:41 pm
the raiders are at the point, we can draft the best athlete available.. last years draft was one of the best of all time.. we have a few upgrades to make, don’t know if the draft can supply them.. wide receiver for example, i think plax would be a better signing than anyone we can get in the later rounds.
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plax?
i think his celly would be jealous
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
U have no I dea what kind of shape Plax is in…Not every1 can pull a Vick get out of jail and be real good.. To pick up Pettis in the 3rd is not going to hurt us neither will picking up Curtis Brown in the 2nd
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you are making too much sense for this board today
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
I thought the James Jones by someone in here earlier was a good name to through out.
He would be a #1 here right now, and a #2 most else places.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Haha Its all you Bro
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
if the chefs lose, seymour and walker need to be in otherwise what are they saving themselves for?
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Robert Mathis(9.5 sacks)vs. Mario Henderson at RT!!!!!!!!
Hello????
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
James Jones would also be a good pick up
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
i am sad to say we should have taken calvin johnson instead of jamarcus. hind sight is always 20-20. if we could pick 100% in the draft we’d be wealthy beyond belief
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
1987-88
1989
1990
1991
1992-97
1998
1999
2000-03
2004-05
2006
2007-08
2008-present Idaho – GA
San Diego St. – GA
Don’t see a stint for Cable at USC
CSUF – DL
UNLV – OL
California – OL
Colorado – OL
Colorado – OC
Idaho – Head Coach
UCLA – OC
Atlanta Falcons – OL
Oakland Raiders – OL
Oakland Raiders – Head Coach
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:48 pm
What a lousy paste job.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:50 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Robert Mathis(9.5 sacks)vs. Mario Henderson at RT!!!!!!!!
Hello????
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i dont even want to think of it
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Double Tight Ends the whole game for JC’s Safety
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:50 pm
James Jones, you guys are on fire today
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Double Tight Ends the whole game for JC’s Safety
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Try riot gear
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Funny how people saw the same game last Sunday but came away with opposite opinions on how Tebow played. Other than the long run, I thought the guy looked horrible. I think he’d be a hell of an RB/FB/TE type though.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:52 pm
Haha maybe Chuck Norris is free to play Fullback
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
yeah i don’t know what kind of shape plax is in or whether he can even play. that was not my point, we need a big possession receiver with nfl savy, we haven’t been able to do that in the draft to date.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Do you know of any possesion reciever out there in the free agency that would be half way decent????????????
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Mathis vs a green Henderson at RT………false starts and QB fumbles.
It would have been nice to have a legit backup RT.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
# r8rwill Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
yeah i don’t know what kind of shape plax is in or whether he can even play. that was not my point, we need a big possession receiver with nfl savy, we haven’t been able to do that in the draft to date.
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he would come cheap thats for sure, but if we are going to go cheap old vet why not driver. still has skill withut the baggage, or hand guns
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Ex,
I was saying that Cable and Hue worked together before, and Hue worked as OC when Hackett was the HC at USC.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Funny how people saw the same game last Sunday but came away with opposite opinions on how Tebow played.
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Not only on this board but in the media too.
Dilfer and Mort thought he played pretty well for his first game, Peter King and the Herd were trading jokes at how awful he is/was/will be.
Tebow is a polarizing figure, on and off the field.
I’m just suprised people don’t realize the athlete the guy is. His combine numbers last year were out of this world. He had a higher vertical than 90% of the WR’s, a faster shuttle time than Javhid Best, and more bench press reps than most of the TE’s.
We better hope he never learns how to throw.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
mistic, as usual we are on the same page..driver would be a great addition altho he is smallish
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Mathis vs a green Henderson at RT………false starts and QB fumbles.
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and yellow piss stained socks ( hendu’s and mine)
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
i thought we made a mistake in camp when we didn’t sign to or go after housh, t.o. is a head case but the man can play the game..
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:08 pm
sign t.o.”
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:14 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Funny how people saw the same game last Sunday but came away with opposite opinions on how Tebow played.
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Not only on this board but in the media too.
Dilfer and Mort thought he played pretty well for his first game, Peter King and the Herd were trading jokes at how awful he is/was/will be.
Tebow is a polarizing figure, on and off the field.
I’m just suprised people don’t realize the athlete the guy is. His combine numbers last year were out of this world. He had a higher vertical than 90% of the WR’s, a faster shuttle time than Javhid Best, and more bench press reps than most of the TE’s.
We better hope he never learns how to throw.
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Trent dildo sucked, but at least he knows it and readily admits as much. i respect his opinion on qb’s not like that dip ish gannon
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Henderson will be OK on the right side.
This is what he does, play OK and sometimes well against the Robert Mathis’ of the world, than makes the no-name guy for the Titans look all-world.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
8. BLEACHER REPORT?!
Any idiot with an opinion can post their drivel and claim its a news worthy story. Yuck…
Scariest thing is when I click on a CBS posts link and get taken to…BLEACHER REPORT…
WTF?
Eroding media intergrity one step at a time.
Thank gawd for Jerry Mac
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:20 pm
43. I think so too. Hope Hendu’s ok if he plays there…
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:26 pm
42. Heres the thing, Tebow is Tebow is Tebow.
They can claim all they want that he’s worked on his throwing motion et al but the fact is he looks exactly like the same cat from Florida and I think he always will.
Give him some weapons and yeah he could do some things but with that wind up he’s going to get eaten alive and fumble ALOT.
He also sticks that lead leg out there when throwing deep.
Oakland did not rush him and he had all the time in the world.
Sure he’s a danger to take off on the ground but you get to him on the rush you can make good things happen for your D.
Unless he’s got ironman stamina he is going to get injured running around like its college in the NFL.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:26 pm
So alone…:)
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Where’s Debo at?
“QBs are only as good as their supporting cast,” he says??
It’s weird when people make such absolute, incorrect statements.
If QBs were only as good as their supporting casts, Rivers would have sucked this year with all of his WRs out. Brady would have struggled throwing to castoffs Woodhead, Julian Edelman, and Brandon Tate. Instead, both will get MVP votes.
Peyton Manning is throwing to Blair White, Austin Collie, former nobody Jacob Tamme, and a formerly benched Pierre Garcon.
Manning is about to set career highs in yards, while throwing his 2nd most career TDs.
Matt Schaub beat us without Andre Johnson. He did just fine.
Big Ben continues to throw well and win games with a garbage O-line.
QBs ARE the system. No one misses a WR, or a TE, or a lineman, or a RB as much as they miss a QB.
Kevin Kolb couldn’t turn that Eagles cast into points. Vick could.
All Matt Flynn showed the other night is he’ll be a very good QB wherever he goes.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
36.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Ex,
I was saying that Cable and Hue worked together before, and Hue worked as OC when Hackett was the HC at USC.
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I understand. Few UCLA coaches ever coach at USC. Cable was the 1st coach fired at Idaho in 22 yrs. The 4 after him were successful. I guess for him, 8-8 looks good for a career loser.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:34 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Riveting, Jerry…
A report on which players you witnessed walking across the locker room..
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Jerry Mac has access to the locker room? I thought he got his info by peering thru the fence until Raider security chased him off.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:35 pm
jfb, you are right about henderson, i would rather have him face mathis sweeney. langston gets eaten alive by speed rushers..
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:37 pm
I’ll bust some more myths while we’re at it.
“Maybe DHB will break out his 3rd year like Dwayne Bowe did!”
Bowe rookie year: 70 rec. 995 yards 5 TDs
Bowe second year: 86 rec. 1022 yards 7 TDs
No comparison.
Guys like he and Roddy White are also 210+ pounds of matchup problems.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:40 pm
DHB 6′2 210
Roddy White 6′0 212
Dwayne Bowe 6′2 221
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
jfb, i want to commend you about your stance on j campbell. i understand you don’t care for him but you are man enough to put that aside and take one for the team
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Mythbuster #3.
“We need a better Defensive Coordinator!”
Truth: Al Davis doesn’t want a great DC if it means playing zone. He had a chance to bring in Monte Kiffin, an all-time great, and passed.
Why? Couldn’t fathom playing zone.
So much for Committment to Excellence.
As long as Davis forces our DC to play 90% man-to-man and doesn’t allow us to practice and master zone, we WILL CONTINUE to give up big runs.
The simple logic is a zone defense allows more players to look into the backfield and see a RB breaking out.
Check out the big runs we give up and you’re likely to see one or two corners or safeties with their backs turned chasing some receiver down the field for no good reason.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Seymour Bush…
It’s BHP, who peeks through the fence..
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:47 pm
I added a few inches and pounds when I played college sports. DHB has done the same at the NFL level.
You KNOW he’s no where near 210 pounds. Kid runs around 195. You can see a huge difference in his body, White’s, and Bowe’s.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:48 pm
The next time anyone looks at DHB and pictures him a size mismatch-problem for a DB will be the first time.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Any word on whether or not the Coli is sold out for Sunday?
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Henderson will be OK on the right side.
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I concur. And just for good measure, we should probably run 5 power rushes to his side to start the game. And if that doesn’t work, put in Khalif “jerry rice” Barnes
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
To Me looking at him play he looks like he’s 205-210…The kid is far from small
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:54 pm
The randomness of fantasy football:
Played 3 leagues, made it to 1 championship game.
Starting QB that gives me best chance at winning?
Rex Grossman
Orton and Ben have taken a backseat.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:00 pm
This is my first time playing Fantasy and Im in the championship…..My Starting QB??????? Peyton Manning…..
Looks like im hopin I lose the Championship
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
Funny how people saw the same game last Sunday but came away with opposite opinions on how Tebow played.
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Not only on this board but in the media too.
Dilfer and Mort thought he played pretty well for his first game, Peter King and the Herd were trading jokes at how awful he is/was/will be.
Tebow is a polarizing figure, on and off the field.
I’m just suprised people don’t realize the athlete the guy is. His combine numbers last year were out of this world. He had a higher vertical than 90% of the WR’s, a faster shuttle time than Javhid Best, and more bench press reps than most of the TE’s.
We better hope he never learns how to throw.
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The fact that he’s a great athlete is obvious! How the hell else could he have accomplished the things he did at Florida if he wasn’t? The people who call him an inferior athlete remind me of the people who say Jamarcus is stupid and the only reason he’s been as good a QUARTERBACK as he’s been since he was a freshman in high school is because he is big with a strong arm. But I don’t liken him to VY or Vick as a runner. He’s like an Earl Campbell or John Riggins type. He ran over guys in college and from what I saw on that 40-yd run, he might get away with it at this level too. For a while anyway.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Wow Devier Posey was with Pryor…He was projected as a 2nd round pick maybe he’ll slide to the 4th
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:12 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Any word on whether or not the Coli is sold out for Sunday?
out for the season
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Havent heard anything about it
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
There’s Debo!
I don’t know Jamarcus as well as you might, Debo.
What has he done to demonstrate that he’s intelligent?
Majored in “general studies”, didn’t understand the value of hard work or film study, missed NFL time to do real estate stuff he could have done online or with professional help, dabbled with drugs.
He’s smart? Maybe nice. But smart?
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Inoneword,
he’s asking about the Coliseum, not Austin Collie
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
r8rwill Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
jfb, i want to commend you about your stance on j campbell.
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No commending needed, in fact might as well take the time to admit being wrong.
The MO for him was good first halves and bad second halves. Good starts to the season, falls apart in November-December.
Well this year, he has been much better in the 2nd half of games than the first, and was awful to start the year and has gradually gotten better (he still blew in the first half last week, but again was much better in the second half).
I still find him far from a long-term answer, he never can even string together a consistant good month, better yet a season. But I would much rather have him than McNabb, Bruce, Palmer or a rookie in 2011.
He has earned his slated raise next year, and really with a good last two games, maybe even an extra year or two are on the table.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Where’s Debo at?
“QBs are only as good as their supporting cast,” he says??
It’s weird when people make such absolute, incorrect statements.
If QBs were only as good as their supporting casts, Rivers would have sucked this year with all of his WRs out. Brady would have struggled throwing to castoffs Woodhead, Julian Edelman, and Brandon Tate. Instead, both will get MVP votes.
Peyton Manning is throwing to Blair White, Austin Collie, former nobody Jacob Tamme, and a formerly benched Pierre Garcon.
Manning is about to set career highs in yards, while throwing his 2nd most career TDs.
Matt Schaub beat us without Andre Johnson. He did just fine.
Big Ben continues to throw well and win games with a garbage O-line.
QBs ARE the system. No one misses a WR, or a TE, or a lineman, or a RB as much as they miss a QB.
Kevin Kolb couldn’t turn that Eagles cast into points. Vick could.
All Matt Flynn showed the other night is he’ll be a very good QB wherever he goes.
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You forgot to mention that Manning still has Pro Bowl wr Reggie Wayne. And in case you didn’t notice, the guy has struggled. He thre what, 11 picks and three games, four of them pick-sixes. Unlike the Colts of yesteryear, they’re fighting for their playoff lives with two games left.
When it comes to Shaub, understand that when I say supporting cast, I’m not just talking about wrs. I’m talking about the running game and the defense as well. If my memory serves me correctly, Shaub’s running game, which features the league’s leading rusher Arian Foster, kicked the schitt out of us that day. Didn’t even need to pass. Too bad his D sucks so bad or maybe he’d sniff the playoffs for the 1st time in his career.
Brady still has Welker, a great scheme and Belichek as his coach. They’ve managed to stay ahead of the NFL for years (gag), with or without Brady. 11-5 with Matt Cassel in 2008 is all you need to know.
No QB in the NFL gets more help from his defense than Big Ben. Won’t try to take too much away from him because he creates something out of nothing a lot of the time. But the guy has not been lighting it up lately. Just look at the Baltimore game a couple of weeks ago. He can afford mistakes because the D will cover him. And I’ll take Ward, Wallace over any of the receivers on our roster. The supporting cast is EVERYTHING.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:26 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
There’s Debo!
I don’t know Jamarcus as well as you might, Debo.
What has he done to demonstrate that he’s intelligent?
Majored in “general studies”, didn’t understand the value of hard work or film study, missed NFL time to do real estate stuff he could have done online or with professional help, dabbled with drugs.
He’s smart? Maybe nice. But smart?
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He demonstrated intelligence by kicking ass at the most cerebral position in sports since he was a freshman in HS. You don’t get recruited to college football’s national champion and during your time there, put a body of work together that gets you drafted #1 overall at QB if you’re not damn smart.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Maybe tennesse and us can help each other out.They are 2 games behind the colts and we are 2 games behind the cheiefs with both of us playing them next week.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Goodness Debo,
Matt Cassell as your example? He happens to be…a really good QB. Have you missed out on his awesome season this year?
And you mention the running game as part of the equation for a QB, yet it works against you with Manning as he’s had no running game for YEARS since Edgerrin left town.
What got the Vikings into the NFC championship last year and their coach fired this year? Their same exact system? The same O-Line? Same Peterson? Same coach?
Oh yeah, QB play.
What’s making Norv Turner look like a great coach? Oh yeah, QB play.
It’s a QB league.