Still no Seymour as Raiders begin practice


Defensive tackle Richard Seymour remained absent from practice with a hamstring strain during the Raiders’ media availability window Thursday, increasing the possibility he won’t be able to play against the Indianapolis Colts.

Offensive tackle Langston Walker was on the field but without a helmet, assistant a line coach giving pointers to Mario Henderson. Henderson will start if walker has not completed concussion protocol.

Defensive coordinator John Marshall told the media extra film study was necessary this week to deal with the tempo set by quarterback Peyton Manning.

That being the case, maybe that’s where everyone was during the team’s open locker room session, during which fewer players were available than at any time I can remember.

Saw Tommy Kelly, Sam Williams, Shaun Bodiford, Stanford Routt, Bruce Davis and Jarvis Moss, and Cooper Carlisle. John Henderson came in before closing time and wasn’t much interested in talking. Jarvis Moss made his way across the room a couple of times.

More to come . . .


Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • r8rwill

    jfb, you are right about henderson, i would rather have him face mathis sweeney. langston gets eaten alive by speed rushers..

  • alex7

    I’ll bust some more myths while we’re at it.

    “Maybe DHB will break out his 3rd year like Dwayne Bowe did!”

    Bowe rookie year: 70 rec. 995 yards 5 TDs
    Bowe second year: 86 rec. 1022 yards 7 TDs

    No comparison.

    Guys like he and Roddy White are also 210+ pounds of matchup problems.

  • PurpleDrank81

    DHB 6’2 210

    Roddy White 6’0 212

    Dwayne Bowe 6’2 221

  • r8rwill

    jfb, i want to commend you about your stance on j campbell. i understand you don’t care for him but you are man enough to put that aside and take one for the team

  • alex7

    Mythbuster #3.

    “We need a better Defensive Coordinator!”

    Truth: Al Davis doesn’t want a great DC if it means playing zone. He had a chance to bring in Monte Kiffin, an all-time great, and passed.

    Why? Couldn’t fathom playing zone.
    So much for Committment to Excellence.

    As long as Davis forces our DC to play 90% man-to-man and doesn’t allow us to practice and master zone, we WILL CONTINUE to give up big runs.

    The simple logic is a zone defense allows more players to look into the backfield and see a RB breaking out.

    Check out the big runs we give up and you’re likely to see one or two corners or safeties with their backs turned chasing some receiver down the field for no good reason.

  • Seymour Bush…

    It’s BHP, who peeks through the fence..

  • alex7

    I added a few inches and pounds when I played college sports. DHB has done the same at the NFL level.

    You KNOW he’s no where near 210 pounds. Kid runs around 195. You can see a huge difference in his body, White’s, and Bowe’s.

  • alex7

    The next time anyone looks at DHB and pictures him a size mismatch-problem for a DB will be the first time.

  • Any word on whether or not the Coli is sold out for Sunday?

  • Seymour Bush

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    Henderson will be OK on the right side.

    I concur. And just for good measure, we should probably run 5 power rushes to his side to start the game. And if that doesn’t work, put in Khalif “jerry rice” Barnes

  • PurpleDrank81

    To Me looking at him play he looks like he’s 205-210…The kid is far from small

  • alex7

    The randomness of fantasy football:

    Played 3 leagues, made it to 1 championship game.
    Starting QB that gives me best chance at winning?

    Rex Grossman

    Orton and Ben have taken a backseat.

  • PurpleDrank81

    This is my first time playing Fantasy and Im in the championship…..My Starting QB??????? Peyton Manning…..

    Looks like im hopin I lose the Championship

  • RaiderDebo

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    Funny how people saw the same game last Sunday but came away with opposite opinions on how Tebow played.


    Not only on this board but in the media too.

    Dilfer and Mort thought he played pretty well for his first game, Peter King and the Herd were trading jokes at how awful he is/was/will be.

    Tebow is a polarizing figure, on and off the field.

    I’m just suprised people don’t realize the athlete the guy is. His combine numbers last year were out of this world. He had a higher vertical than 90% of the WR’s, a faster shuttle time than Javhid Best, and more bench press reps than most of the TE’s.

    We better hope he never learns how to throw.

    The fact that he’s a great athlete is obvious! How the hell else could he have accomplished the things he did at Florida if he wasn’t? The people who call him an inferior athlete remind me of the people who say Jamarcus is stupid and the only reason he’s been as good a QUARTERBACK as he’s been since he was a freshman in high school is because he is big with a strong arm. But I don’t liken him to VY or Vick as a runner. He’s like an Earl Campbell or John Riggins type. He ran over guys in college and from what I saw on that 40-yd run, he might get away with it at this level too. For a while anyway.

  • PurpleDrank81

    Wow Devier Posey was with Pryor…He was projected as a 2nd round pick maybe he’ll slide to the 4th

  • inonewordraider

    909RaiderLifer Says:
    December 23rd, 2010 at 2:50 pm
    Any word on whether or not the Coli is sold out for Sunday?

    out for the season

  • PurpleDrank81

    Havent heard anything about it

  • alex7

    There’s Debo!

    I don’t know Jamarcus as well as you might, Debo.

    What has he done to demonstrate that he’s intelligent?

    Majored in “general studies”, didn’t understand the value of hard work or film study, missed NFL time to do real estate stuff he could have done online or with professional help, dabbled with drugs.

    He’s smart? Maybe nice. But smart?

  • alex7


    he’s asking about the Coliseum, not Austin Collie 🙂

  • Just Fire Baby

    r8rwill Says:
    December 23rd, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    jfb, i want to commend you about your stance on j campbell.


    No commending needed, in fact might as well take the time to admit being wrong.

    The MO for him was good first halves and bad second halves. Good starts to the season, falls apart in November-December.

    Well this year, he has been much better in the 2nd half of games than the first, and was awful to start the year and has gradually gotten better (he still blew in the first half last week, but again was much better in the second half).

    I still find him far from a long-term answer, he never can even string together a consistant good month, better yet a season. But I would much rather have him than McNabb, Bruce, Palmer or a rookie in 2011.

    He has earned his slated raise next year, and really with a good last two games, maybe even an extra year or two are on the table.

  • RaiderDebo

    Alex7 Says:
    December 23rd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
    Where’s Debo at?

    “QBs are only as good as their supporting cast,” he says??

    It’s weird when people make such absolute, incorrect statements.

    If QBs were only as good as their supporting casts, Rivers would have sucked this year with all of his WRs out. Brady would have struggled throwing to castoffs Woodhead, Julian Edelman, and Brandon Tate. Instead, both will get MVP votes.

    Peyton Manning is throwing to Blair White, Austin Collie, former nobody Jacob Tamme, and a formerly benched Pierre Garcon.

    Manning is about to set career highs in yards, while throwing his 2nd most career TDs.

    Matt Schaub beat us without Andre Johnson. He did just fine.

    Big Ben continues to throw well and win games with a garbage O-line.

    QBs ARE the system. No one misses a WR, or a TE, or a lineman, or a RB as much as they miss a QB.

    Kevin Kolb couldn’t turn that Eagles cast into points. Vick could.

    All Matt Flynn showed the other night is he’ll be a very good QB wherever he goes.

    You forgot to mention that Manning still has Pro Bowl wr Reggie Wayne. And in case you didn’t notice, the guy has struggled. He thre what, 11 picks and three games, four of them pick-sixes. Unlike the Colts of yesteryear, they’re fighting for their playoff lives with two games left.

    When it comes to Shaub, understand that when I say supporting cast, I’m not just talking about wrs. I’m talking about the running game and the defense as well. If my memory serves me correctly, Shaub’s running game, which features the league’s leading rusher Arian Foster, kicked the schitt out of us that day. Didn’t even need to pass. Too bad his D sucks so bad or maybe he’d sniff the playoffs for the 1st time in his career.

    Brady still has Welker, a great scheme and Belichek as his coach. They’ve managed to stay ahead of the NFL for years (gag), with or without Brady. 11-5 with Matt Cassel in 2008 is all you need to know.

    No QB in the NFL gets more help from his defense than Big Ben. Won’t try to take too much away from him because he creates something out of nothing a lot of the time. But the guy has not been lighting it up lately. Just look at the Baltimore game a couple of weeks ago. He can afford mistakes because the D will cover him. And I’ll take Ward, Wallace over any of the receivers on our roster. The supporting cast is EVERYTHING.

  • RaiderDebo

    Alex7 Says:
    December 23rd, 2010 at 3:17 pm
    There’s Debo!

    I don’t know Jamarcus as well as you might, Debo.

    What has he done to demonstrate that he’s intelligent?

    Majored in “general studies”, didn’t understand the value of hard work or film study, missed NFL time to do real estate stuff he could have done online or with professional help, dabbled with drugs.

    He’s smart? Maybe nice. But smart?

    He demonstrated intelligence by kicking ass at the most cerebral position in sports since he was a freshman in HS. You don’t get recruited to college football’s national champion and during your time there, put a body of work together that gets you drafted #1 overall at QB if you’re not damn smart.

  • chuck

    Maybe tennesse and us can help each other out.They are 2 games behind the colts and we are 2 games behind the cheiefs with both of us playing them next week.

  • alex7

    Goodness Debo,

    Matt Cassell as your example? He happens to be…a really good QB. Have you missed out on his awesome season this year?

    And you mention the running game as part of the equation for a QB, yet it works against you with Manning as he’s had no running game for YEARS since Edgerrin left town.

    What got the Vikings into the NFC championship last year and their coach fired this year? Their same exact system? The same O-Line? Same Peterson? Same coach?

    Oh yeah, QB play.

    What’s making Norv Turner look like a great coach? Oh yeah, QB play.

    It’s a QB league.