Final: Colts 31, Raiders 26
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, December 26th, 2010 at 4:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Fourth quarter notes
– Peyton Manning’s 7-yard back shoulder throw to Pierre Garcon with 7:38 to play put the Colts up 31-19 and in control.
Indianapolis, following Janikowski’s fourth field goal fo the game, drove 68 yards nine plays, doing much of the damage on the ground as the Raiders stuck almost exclusively with the big nickel defense they used most of the game.
– The Colts played a deep Cover 2 and enabled the Raidres to pile up completions while eating up valuable clock time in the fourth quarter.
– The Raiders drove 80 yards in 12 plays to score on a 6-yard touchdown pass from Jason Campbell to Zach Miller, but Jacob Tamme recovered Sebastian Janikowski’s onsides kick.
— Manning’s second interception of the game, this one by Chris Johnson after a deflection on a slant route to Garcon deflected by Rolando McClain, set Oakland up at the 37.
The Raiders only netted 10 yards with a third-down sack by Mathis forcing Janikowskon to the field for his fourth field goal of the game, this one from 45 yards with 12:59 left, bringing Oakland within 24-19.
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December 26th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
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December 26th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
167.J Hill Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
0-6 in games where we give up over 30 pts!
Just keep that in mind JFB!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
did anyone notice that easy audible? there wasnt a single raider on the right sight of the field…
December 26th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
We must upgrade the QB pos!
Draft a QB, and sign a fa QB.
Campbell starts untell we get a guy to play better than him!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
167.J Hill Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
0-6 in games where we give up over 30 pts!
Just keep that in mind JFB!
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No one wants to contemplate that JHill….
No one!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Walking papers = John Marshall
December 26th, 2010 at 4:13 pm
Look at Bruce talking to Peyton.
“Bro, I am way better than Curtis Painter and Jim Sorgi, and I will carry your golf clubs on Tuesday.”
December 26th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
See ya on draft day!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
How you numbnuts blame Campbell for this game is beyond me. What’s your problem idiot?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
167.J Hill Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
0-6 in games where we give up over 30 pts!
Just keep that in mind JFB!
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Most teams loose when they give up over 30 points! Prolly like 85% or more!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Bruce Gradkowsi looks like Franco Harris.
Ed Reed looks like Vampire in Brooklyn Maximillon.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
31 points to the Colts, when you get two turnovers against them and no help from your offense is not bad.
Not good, but not bad either.
Just like Jason Campbell right?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Amen Raider Nation.
Losing to Peyton is not a crime.
Losing the West is.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
of course D sucked, they were on the field the whole game. the raiders gave up on the run at halftime, even tho we had some big gains (which the colts are prone too)
future note, Jacoby Ford opening returns are bad omens…
December 26th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
7-9 is not good enough.
Cable said this IS a playoff team.
It isn’t. He failed. Goodbye.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
It was the Oline and to a lesser but not much, Dline, getting beat. Thats all to it.
This game was not on JCamp. He did not play a bad game. He did have pathetic protection however.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Cable’s not going anywhere.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
14.187killa Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
of course D sucked, they were on the field the whole game. the raiders gave up on the run at halftime, even tho we had some big gains (which the colts are prone too)
future note, Jacoby Ford opening returns are bad omens…
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Yep, the other team feels the pressure to score more points, and so they do! Our D can’t hang.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Gotta throw the ball down the field!!!
Lousy play calling today, poorly thrown checkdowns with no RAC, lousy pass protection, and no Dick Seymour…..we need CB, T, G, C and WR and DT. Our Dline was horrible today….
December 26th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Somehow the key is to alow Jacoby to only return KOs for Tds opening the 2nd half. Game openers seem to be deflating.?????????????????????
December 26th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Both sides were getting pushed off the ball. It was embarassing almost.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
I’m still proud of these guys. This is the best I’ve felt about our team since the Super Bowl. Hopefully they’ll continue to keep getting it together. We need to stomp KC.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
If we had Walker and Seymore, maybe we win. If Jano don’t miss in AZ, maybe we make the playoffs?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Colts average over 27 ppg, and 389 yards of offense.
Today they got 31 points, and 370 yards.
Offense failed us, defense played the Colts to about a draw.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Colts are still an elite team. Raiders not there yet but getting close.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Well at least we know DHB can catch. LOL. Gives some conselation heading into the offseason. One more offseason of hard work and he might be a viable threat.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
We gotta win the first game of 2011, cause it will set off our confidancess
December 26th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
I think we mailed it in today. The play calling was very suspect. What happened to our running game. When we pounded the middle we got yards. When we went wide, NADA. What’s wrong with HuJack? POUND THE DAMN BALL UP THE MIDDLE! DMAC – 45 yards on 11 carries. HuJack tanked our O this week.
I’m sure the fact that KC locked things up had an impact on our level of play. Oh well, the only saving grace is that the Chargers are out too.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
26.TerrapinRaider Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Well at least we know DHB can catch. LOL. Gives some conselation heading into the offseason. One more offseason of hard work and he might be a viable threat.
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Not very well.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
31 points to the Colts, when you get two turnovers against them and no help from your offense is not bad.
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What are you talking about?!?!?
Giving up over 30 pts IS terrible!
No help from the offense? We scored the 24 pts the coach asked for, lol!
I expect to win when we score over 24 pts. Amazing that you don’t.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Incredible we did not run RIGHT at them. We kept trying slashing and running outside….why we did not POUND it right at them perplexes me….
The penalties must stop as well……
Although Routt got screwed by the refs again today.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
gotta get the TRENCHES fixed…Dont care who is playing QB, without decent pass protect forget it…
December 26th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Colts average over 27 ppg, and 389 yards of offense.
Today they got 31 points, and 370 yards.
Offense failed us, defense played the Colts to about a draw.
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You’re off your nut dude with such an absurd observation.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Copenhagen you are correct.
Papa and Flores were commenting on the same thing throughout the game.
Four yard out patterms were not the deal. Ya gotta go to the middle or down the field.
Fear of Freeney and Mathis? Who cares? Play the game.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
we also need real Dline depth…Draft a run clogger…
December 26th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
If there is an elite Free Agent QB available…by all means..bring him in.
Please tell me who that person is.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
J Henderson had 9T and 2A
December 26th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
its cool guys, a 6-0 finish in the division is huge. i remember watching raider games, and all the little stats the cbs bar shows is “Stat (last in NFL)”. this year, i see a lot of positive stats, like most pts scored in 1st quarter.
this team is going places.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Someone said it best that JC just doesn’t have “it”. No fire, not a motivator. All of these guys have the “fire”, and they are ALL top tier QB’s:
-Brady
-Manning
-Rivers
-Rodgers
-Matt Ryan
You see the above mentioned players talking to receivers who miss passes, firing up the offense, etc. etc. etc. You see NONE OF THAT with Campbell.
He plays like he really doesn’t care one way or the other. I seriously wonder if he even likes football.
It’s obvious he doesn’t like to compete. It just isn’t in him. He doesn’t seem like he cares.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
You guys are just totally absent minded I’m thinking. Did you not see the Colts stuffing the run!?1?
Sheeez …how can you keep running the damn ball when you’re getting down by scores(*S) against the COLTS of all teams.
THINK FOR A MINUTE!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
J Henderson had 9T and 2A
The big man played VERY well today!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
If you think you are going to score 24 points and beat the Colts you are high.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Doesnt matter who the QB is, if the TRECH is busted the QB will get hammered…
Fix the Oline…
December 26th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
J Henderson had 9T and 2A
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J.Henderson was getting blown off the ball. I saw this coming when he spelled Seymour vs the Donks. No rush up the middle and just standing up. Sometimes gettign push others getting pushed back. But he is better than Terdell Sands LOLOLOL.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
djohnnyg,
So who do you bring in that is a MEASURABLE upgrade from a JC with 1 year in the system…
December 26th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
JB,
suspect play calling? don’t know. McF had the field to take it to the house and preferred to run staight into the only tackler left in an open field. shrug, play caller can’t do anything about that.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
42.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
If you think you are going to score 24 points and beat the Colts you are high.
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26 should get it done though, right?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
27.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:19 pm
We gotta win the first game of 2011, cause it will set off our confidancess
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But……..there is still a chance of going 8-8 with a division sweep.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
You can’t dis on “The Terd”.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
we gave up 191 yards rushing today…thats mostly on the Dline…
December 26th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
i guess colts should get rid of manning -he had 2 picks and his rating wasnt much better than campbells?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
For the first time in a long time, the saying wait ’til next year actually, means something.
Keep working and build for 2011.
Optimism……FINALLY.
DRAFT MALLETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
his completion % was worse
December 26th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Colts have lost 6 games this year.
They gave up 31+ in 5 of them (26 in the other).
Score 30 points against the Colts, you are 5-2 (they won once when they gave up 35).
Score under 30 points and you are 1-7.
We got a Ford kickoff, a 59 yard FG, and two turnovers inside the 50 yard line, and still didn’t get the requisite 30 points.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Well DHB showed us he can catch the ball and be a factor in the game besides clearing out. Have a consectutive game like it …go into the offseason with the same mindset as before …getting 3X better …we might have something.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
M Lonetree
I questioned the play calling because the Colts D was just too fast to run wide on. They are susceptible to running right at them. We we ran at they we made yards. When we went wide we got nowhere. Why did HuJack keep calling edge running and why did he just give up on the running game at half time. That’s why I question the play calling.
If you do something and it works, keep doing it until it no longer works. HuJack doesn’t subscribe to that policy.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
I really wish the Chargers won.
At least we would have one more meaningful game to assess our players.
I wouldn’t be suprised if the Chiefs sit almost all their veterans next week.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
I’m pretty sure that someone leaked the Titans KC score to the players before the game!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Velheer’s performance today was OK. Nothing to be too excited about. Well, maybe, considering the fact that he is a rookie and all.
Get Bruce Camp in the lineup next year, new center and maybe Walker and we may have something here.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Houston holds Indy to 24 and wins.
SD hold Indy to 14 and wins.
Philly hold Indy to 24 and wins.
Cincy held Indy to 23 pts, lost the game though.
Defense wasn’t ready, plain and simple! Penalties in the secondary killed us all day, not Manning. 3rd and 19 and CJ37 gets a PI which leads to a TD to end the half.
JFB doesn’t see an issue with CJ37 though if I understand you correctly, right?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
JB Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
M Lonetree
I questioned the play calling because the Colts D was just too fast to run wide on. They are susceptible to running right at them. We we ran at they we made yards. When we went wide we got nowhere. Why did HuJack keep calling edge running and why did he just give up on the running game at half time. That’s why I question the play calling.
If you do something and it works, keep doing it until it no longer works. HuJack doesn’t subscribe to that policy.
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Lol.
I question the play calling too especially when going in we had the #2 running offense going against the #28 running defense.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
You’ve solidly made your point JHill.
You don’t accept 31pts as some sort of victory. That’s absurd.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
CJ got a pick and a few break up off passes. The PI was awful though.
Not saying the D played well, not at all. They played the NFL average of what NFL defenses do week in and week out against the Colts.
With our offense today, they needed to be better than average and they were not.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Keep bringin it Jhill
December 26th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
San Diego loses to Cincy!
LMFAO!
Before the game the dischargers were talking about what they’d do in the playoffs.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
Why didnt we use Mcfadden more? Ima loose my FF finals… lol Im still proud of our Raiders. Look out for us next year..
December 26th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Our secondary just has a really low football IQ, IMO.
The fact that they CONSTANTLY miscommunicate in zone coverage is just hard to understand. The PI calls they get on 3rd downs are just unexplainable.
Just WAYYYYY too many head scrathcing moments from the secondary
Tyvon Branch is just flat out TERRIBLE! Worse player in our secondary.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Show me one DC claiming victory when they get blasted for 31pts or more.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
I think anyone that is upset about this season must be a bandwagon fan for sure. The last 7 years for me football season has been over by thanksgiving and it has been painful. Last night on Christmas day I couldn’t sleep waiting to get up and watch the KC TEN game on my computer for a hope at the playoffs.
“Someone said it best that JC just doesn’t have “it”. No fire, not a motivator. All of these guys have the “fire”, and they are ALL top tier QB’s:
-Brady
-Manning
-Rivers
-Rodgers
-Matt Ryan”
You do realize that there are 32 teams in the NFL? You named 5 quarterbacks…12 teams go to the playoffs. That means the rest have to work with what you got.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Branch has most definitely had a bad year. Its his 2yr though. Maybe its some softmore jinx. Start MM34. Enough fooling around …I can see this guy is a player.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
i was shocked to see the line at 2.5 today colts. 11 rushes for dmac? wow!
couldnt watch the game today. did routt get exposed again?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
Houston holds Indy to 24 and wins.
SD hold Indy to 14 and wins.
Philly hold Indy to 24 and wins.
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No mention of those teams averaging 32 ppg against them? Averaging over 350 yards of offense?
Certainly racking up those yards helps your D “hold” an opposing offense.
That’s all I’m saying.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
AL, before the rest of your face falls off into your drool towel, call Gruden so this team can go to the playoffs.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
We really needed a push up the middle on D. Not having Seymour in there with Kelly was HUGE. JHenderson is adequate for most running D but when Manning is the QB, we really needed to collapse the pocket and couldn’t get it done today.
I’m not sure John Marshall should be with us next year. Who are his potential replacements?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:42 pm
With our offense today, they needed to be better than average and they were not.
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Like you said, the PI in that situation is just awful. They were not even in FG range.
The offense having to make up for those types of F ups is what’s cost us all year. Our offense is not that good, and we all know it. Especially when the OC is not creative enough to adjust out of the run/screen game he loves so much.
I’ll say it again. That spread offense we ran the last 5 minutes of the game is somehting we should have been seeing as a big part of our offense. Dink and dunk down the field with the RBs and TE in against single coverage caused by spreading out 3 WRs.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:44 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Show me one DC claiming victory when they get blasted for 31pts or more
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Can’t show you a DC, but I could show you 4 head coaches who gave up 31 points to our opponent today, who claimed an actual NFL victory.
Again, that’s all I’m saying. I knew all week we would have to score 30 points to win, and our running game would be non-existant.
This is what the Colts have been doing in post-December football for a decade. Sorry some of you haven’t been paying attention.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
No mention of those teams averaging 32 ppg against them? Averaging over 350 yards of offense?
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Stats, smats, JFB!
If CJ37 doesn’t make that STUPID PI on 3rd and 19, Indy has 10 pts at the half.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
JFB,
You can’t make a living giving up 30+ points in too many games.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
December 26t.
Henderson was getting blown off the ball.
And how.
Velheer got turned around some but played pretty well considering his opponent and it’s his first year.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Did McFadden get injured? Every time Red Zone showed the Raiders Bush was playing and not McFadden.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
You guys love to hate hime but Seabass shuts your mouths today as well (mostly)
December 26th, 2010 at 4:47 pm
JFB,
You can’t make a living giving up 30+ points in too many games.
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You can’t make a living playing the Colts every week either.
This an elite offense.
Now giving up 38 points to the Jaguars or 30+ to the Titans? That is awful.
31 points and two turnovers against the Colts isn’t life altering.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
EnlandRaider – Did you not see the push Indy was getting off the line?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Indy was getting good push and their blocking was solid.
So was their tackling for the most part. Its interesting as hell to watch that defense all of a sudden show up when its playoffs time.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
How about the 31 yd PI in the 3rd qtr that set up the short TD pass by Manning?
Same ole good play, good play, REALLY BAD play by the Raiders seconday.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Well, at least next week’s game is in the can. We’ll be going against KC practice squad thanks to SD losing.
8-8
Fire Cable anyhow.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
I think if you told most NFL coaches playing Peyton Manning, that you will give up 31 points, but you will also get two turnovers inside the 50, a kickoff return for a TD, and a 59 yard FG, every NFL coach would take that as about a 50/50 chance to win.
And 50/50 against the Colts is all you can ask.
We had a chance to take the lead or tie the game many times in the second half, once after a CJ int, and settled for FG’s or punts every time.
Every fkn time!!!!!
December 26th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
i think hue jackson oughta be ashamed of themselves. jackson really disappointed me today. first of all i dont understand how you dont play to our strengths, Running the ball. Yeah the run was getting stuffed but if you noticed most of the runs we ran to the left side and up the gut it was succesfull.i dont understand how you run the ball majority of times on stretch play against a fast defense and run it to the right towards arguably the worst tackle in the nfl henderson. and everybody thats giving campbell credit, child please, this guy is just captain checkdown and zones in only on miller and rbs and rarely threw the ball to our wrs in the early going. Along with the terrible playcalling, terrible oline protection, and disappointing qb play, the offense really let us down.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
I must admit though. I left the impression that their team is coached much better than the Raiders. They were crisp. Solid blocking. Solid tackling.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
I could see if Manning was back there carving us up.
But it was our seconday giving up dumb PIs on guys what were covered, lol.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Or it could just be talent? Take your pick. Maybe a little of both.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
One to grow on, Peyton took Branch and McClain to school,
nice moment, Peyton giving Aso props…
I think Jason Campbell had the Fear this game, maybe no faith in Super Mario, but he was playing not to get hurt today. Bad day for Campbell, no question.
Defense was admirable, but that naked bootleg will/should haunt McClain for a long time.
Go Raiders.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Anyone know about my boy McFadden? Injured? Why was Bush always in?
December 26th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Please STOP IT with this running the ball sht!
You guys don’t even watch the game. You just look at the stats and try to make a point.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
EnlandRaider – Did you not see the push Indy was getting off the line?
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Is that a rhetorical question? You could hardly miss it.
I just think Velheer played well for a rookie.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
DMC was out becuase nothing was happenng on his carries. Bush came in to change pace and we started running the ball a little. And I mean a little.
The big problem we had on this game was when we ran it we didn’t get very far and faced a lot of 2nd or 3rd and longs.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Every big run play…and there weren’t that many, Reese actually made a block, makes me wonder what our running game could be with a fullback good at blocking.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Interesting. Night all.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
SO WHAT Campbell had 4 or 5 passes off target?
They were simply incomplete passes.
December 26th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
# Dakota Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Anyone know about my boy McFadden? Injured? Why was Bush always in?
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Turf Toe again..
December 26th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:48 pm
EnlandRaider – Did you not see the push Indy was getting off the line?
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Is that a rhetorical question? You could hardly miss it.
I just think Velheer played well for a rookie.
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I think we missed each other on this. I wasn’t saying Veldheer had a bad game or looked bad. I was saying he did OK and maybe better than OK if you want to project forward wth him being a rookie and all.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:00 pm
LOL….
Deon Sanders on the NFLN.
“Man, that Raiders Defense really stepped up.”
I never believe anything he says though.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
marshall needs to be fired
December 26th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
tazZraider Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
i think hue jackson oughta be ashamed of themselves. jackson really disappointed me today. first of all i dont understand how you dont play to our strengths, Running the ball. Yeah the run was getting stuffed but if you noticed most of the runs we ran to the left side and up the gut it was succesfull.i dont understand how you run the ball majority of times on stretch play against a fast defense and run it to the right towards arguably the worst tackle in the nfl henderson. and everybody thats giving campbell credit, child please, this guy is just captain checkdown and zones in only on miller and rbs and rarely threw the ball to our wrs in the early going. Along with the terrible playcalling, terrible oline protection, and qb play, the offense really let us down.
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That about sums it up for me.
Out.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
I laugh when people say fire the Def Coach…it’s marshall now, it was rob ryan before him, I think it was Brenahan before him…..what’s changed??? NOTHING. I’ve been a Raider fan for 35 years now and the only time I’ve seen the defense play unraider like was when Gruden was coach and they hired Willie Shaw….lots of zone….i’m not saying that’s the way to go but don’t lay to much blame on the Def Coordinater. It’s kinda hard to coach with restrictions……my 2 cents
December 26th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
Deon is watched up. I don’t find him insightful or even entertaining anymore.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
washed
December 26th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
QB Devlin in the second round, WR Pettis in the third.
Sign free agents Harvey Dahl and Ryan Harris to shore up the right side of the line, make a run at CB Jonathan Joseph.
Re-sign guys like Seymour, Miller, Gallery, and if possible Bush or Huff. Bring Satele and maybe Barnes back on the cheap… with another halfway decent draft, you’d be looking at a team that can play with the better teams in the league.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
Than he took some shots at the Raiders, and somewhat their D, after the highlight clip in talking up the Colts.
Typical Deon. During the highlights he says one thing, afterwards, says the complete opposite.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:05 pm
He also yelled “there is no quit in Jason Campbell.”
December 26th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
I feel bad for Nnam. This guy has been at the top of the game for years running but will never get the stats or receive the great credit he deserves. At this rate he deserves HOF mention but I don’t think he gets there.
We imported what suppose to be a great corner to work beside him (DHall) and he makes him look like an amateur.
You can’t give me another corner that gets thrown to as few times as Nnam. That’s the stat everyone should be looking at. Sad but he’ll never make it.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Say kids, the fact that, knowing their season was already done, the Raiders came out and gave a tooth and nail game to an elite team is honourable. yeah yeah yeah, they all get paid millions of dollars but they gave an honest effort despite the chefs victory before PST gametime.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
There was a play early in the game where Nnamdi bumped Wayne and released him to the S. The S wasn’t there and Manning faded the ball to him for a 20 yd gain.
Nnamdi and Branch talking to each other after the play trying to clear up the miscommunication, lol.
Saw another play in the 2nd half where Wayne was on the right side with 2 other WRs and Nnamdi was on the left side covering no one. 1st down pass to Wayne obviously, lol. The announcer even commented that is how yo free up Wayne.
Zone defense doesn’t get called much by Marshall because it NEVER works.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Big issue was the f’n penalties.
The Reece penalty that erased a 20 yard run
The PI penalties.
Eliminate those and the Raiders win
December 26th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
SnB,
you are correct, but the season was SeaBass in AZ and Jacoby in Swampland. Game over both times, both victories in hand, playoffs done.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
Andy25g Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
I laugh when people say fire the Def Coach…it’s marshall now, it was rob ryan before him, I think it was Brenahan before him…..what’s changed??? NOTHING. I’ve been a Raider fan for 35 years now and the only time I’ve seen the defense play unraider like was when Gruden was coach and they hired Willie Shaw….lots of zone….i’m not saying that’s the way to go but don’t lay to much blame on the Def Coordinater. It’s kinda hard to coach with restrictions……my 2 cents
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i’ve been a raider fan for a long time too bro, but i’ve never seen ryan, bresnahan or shaw employ 1 and 2 linebackers in the game most of the time. I mean come on how are u going to blitz 2 safeties at the same time at peyton manning? someone’s bound to be open, and thats how tamme made most of his catches. and all you haters bashing on rolando, he played well its not his fault he was the only lb in most of the time, he’s going to be an excellent mlb in time.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
If Bruce Campbell can’t get into the LAST game of his Rookie year. Cut him and move on! We need to see this guy under live fire!
December 26th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
This was a better year. I hope we improve even more next year. If Campbell’s our starter again, we’ll probably have a season a lot like this one. He’s okay, but nowhere near good.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Lonetree,
Those penalties are every week and many times erase a big play (offense or defense).
Its those attention to detail things that has me concerned about Cable and company.
The real progress will be made when they eliminate the double digit # of penalties and give themselves back 120 yards a game
December 26th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
December 26th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
This was a better year. I hope we improve even more next year. If Campbell’s our starter again, we’ll probably have a season a lot like this one. He’s okay, but nowhere near good.
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Yep, with JC and our 2011 sched 8-8 ish would be expected.
With a real QB 12-4
December 26th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Did someone compare JC to Manning?
December 26th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Before the season started I said this would be a .500 team +/- 1 game but anything could happen. So this turns out to be as expected.
Now going into next year; I don’t know what will happen but I expect us to win the division and make the playoffs having a shot at the SB ..not sure if we can win it however.
A lot depends on how strong of an offseason we have. The team needs to be better along the Oline and more experience.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Actually, when the Raiders get double digit penalties, they win.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
Well, that sucked.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
I shouldn’t say “not sure if we can win it” but “if we can make it there” …but we can win it if the team is that good on that day.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 5:16 pm
If Bruce Campbell can’t get into the LAST game of his Rookie year. Cut him and move on! We need to see this guy under live fire!
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Are you kidding me?
December 26th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Next year will be tougher though. Must tougher schedule.
Attention to detail should be the M.O for next year.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Satele has had a good year overall but I think Cable believe that position is a weak link on the line.
Bruce Campbell should be our new RG next year.
Walker or someone esle will be RT.
Gallery and Veldheer remain on the left.
Another WR will be in the fold.
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On the defensive line: Shonasty is really good but we need something great there – however, I don’t believe we can get this done in the offseason ..or at least the odds are not great.
Expect another CB to be drafted.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Why should Bruce Campbell be anything next year. We don’t know what he is. Will be telling if he is left inactive next week.
Raiders need another CB BTW
December 26th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
42 passes against the Colts!!!
Fire Marshall!!!!
Fire Cable!!!
Hire a real HC, DC, and keep Hue one more year. Hue needs help with the offense.
We need a HC who changes plays when the OC cantcall them right.
We need to upgrade our coaching staff before we upgrade our players!!!!!!
Why didn’t we Run more?!?!?!??
December 26th, 2010 at 5:43 pm
Cable is high on BC and what he could become in that position. I think he’s the new RG. CC has slown down and is no longer that good. When we had a very bad line he looked really good to us. Now that we have an OK line he looks weak.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
what I don’t get is that the Sun night game is cancelled because of snow. snow??? this is freakin’ football. Philly has public transpo to the gamesite. Is Goodell afraid that Dogman might slip and hurt his tootsies in a blizzard? what a joke.
December 26th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Fire O!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
playrs are playin for contracts, for their future.
Some of you are actually surprised players didn’t just go through the motions?
Every week is an audition for your future.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
what I don’t get is that the Sun night game is cancelled because of snow. snow??? this is freakin’ football. Philly has public transpo to the gamesite. Is Goodell afraid that Dogman might slip and hurt his tootsies in a blizzard? what a joke.
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Seems the jokes on you, fool.
Suggesting tens of thousands hit the road in those conditions for a mere game makes you a moron, along with the fool tag.
some things just make sense.
You aren’t one of them.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
I do my job, but I can’t say the same for our coaching staff.
Fire Marshall and Cable!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
Leave it up to Campbell again. Like the comment about good qb’s gettin in the faces of there recievers and backs faces when they screw up. Campbell has no personality no emotion that’s not a leader just plain garbage. How can we not run the ball against the colts there a soft team. How can we not stop there run 190 somethin yd’s against us it’s the freakin COLTS people. That’s why we lost as much as I dislike Campbell and he did nothing to help us win IMO. But we gave up 190 somthin yd’s to the damn colts.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
The trend I noticed and found most troubling this year is how often the Raiders score points and on the very next posession, they allow the opposing team to march straight down the field and score a touchdown. It’s always a touchdown too. This defense is incapable of protecting a lead for us for even one posession in a lot of cases. Our offense isn’t great (with the exception of McFadden) and our offensive game plan today should have been 2 to 1 run vs. pass instead of the opther way around, but our defense is even more disappointing to me.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Jason Campbell 42 attempts, Darren McFadden 11. Period.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
Jason Campbell 42 attempts, Darren McFadden 11. Period.
Maybe Hue Jackson won the Head Coaching J.O.B.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
vegas,good point,think they missed big 92?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
I’m not sure if the players scoreboard watched, but maybe Hue did.
Put Darren on ice for the most part, rest the wheels for next year, and see if Campbell can at least trade punches with Peyton Manning.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm
Koolkell—
couldn’t be more right. As far as the offense is concerned.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
KK,hue aint a head coach,get over that nonsense already even the comms allude to as much.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
would like the odds on jasoup trading punches with manning vegas,lol,in a ring yeah but on the field,,,,nope
December 26th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
If you give up 191 yds on the ground to Indy, you’ve got no chance.
Hue Jackson got cute, tried to.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
I’m not sure if the players scoreboard watched, but maybe Hue did.
Put Darren on ice for the most part, rest the wheels for next year, and see if Campbell can at least trade punches with Peyton Manning.
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dmac makes 10 mil a year and he gets rested.wow.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
will Jason campbell be the starter next year? let it begin.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
well said kk,for a change,looked like we tried to pass then run
December 26th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
In a close game, Dmac get’s 11 carries, REALLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
And 55 looked stupid
December 26th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
vegas,good point,think they missed big 92?
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How could they not, he is one of the best players on the team.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Was that Hue Jackson’s audition?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
A 8/8 season Cable stays. That is what was expected of him and the Raiders. A winning season should have come from this team. But,oh well, their only the Raiders.What is expected is a win in Arrowhead, period!!!!! The Raiders are a better team than the Chiefs and they need to prove it.
Let’s talk about stanford Routt. I thinks he should be a much better player than he is now. Overall, he played a pretty good game today. He went up against the best quarterback in the game without question.Payton demands precision route running from his receivers and those types of quarteback and receiver combo make for a hard day on the job. Routt problems start when he loses battles he is expected to win. The tackles he should have made to get the defense off the field. There where many times I can remember that he should have won those type of battles.Today was different. It was a tougher task today because of the superior quaterback play. bottom line, I don’t feel he is or will be a better cover corner the Nnamdi. I do feel he can become a much better overall cornerback than what he is now.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Oakland is out of the playoffs, and I lose the FFL final
dammit dammit DAMMIT! sometimes I just hate sundays!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Payton manning 3 carries for 25 yd’s this is Peyton manning. The most non mobile qb in the league as good as he is. Wow the d line choked in this game. How is this possible lol.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
hue jackson isn’t a god. when he keeps it run based the raiders win, when he pretends to have the chargers QB and WRs we lose. whats wrong with this guy?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
A 8/8 season Cable stays. That is what was expected of him and the Raiders. A winning season should have come from this team. But,oh well, their only the Raiders.What is expected is a win in Arrowhead, period!!!!! The Raiders are a better team than the Chiefs and they need to prove it.
Let’s talk about stanford Routt. I thinks he should be a much better player than he is now. Overall, he played a pretty good game today. He went up against the best quarterback in the game without question.Payton demands precision route running from his receivers and those types of quarteback and receiver combo make for a hard day on the job. Routt problems start when he loses battles he is expected to win. The tackles he should have made to get the defense off the field. There where many times I can remember that he should have won those type of battles.Today was different. It was a tougher task today because of the superior quaterback play. bottom line, I don’t feel he is or will be a better cover corner the Nnamdi. I do feel he can become a much better overall cornerback than what he is now.
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chiefs will rest their starters. raiders will blowout KC next week.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
we should have ran it more.
I don’t understand what Hue is doing, and I have no clue an Cable doesn’t change the calls.
You beat the Colts by running, keeping PM off the field, and take advantage of their Weak Run Defense.
Cable and Marshall were avg at best this season, but Marahall has to go. His unit allowed 30+ points in 6/15 games. They allowed 31 points in 1 half against the Jags!!
Fire Marshall now!!!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
Was that Hue Jackson’s audition?
It’s probably better when Head Coaches hire their own staff.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Routt is garbage!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Sammy,
jokes on you stupid mofo. tickets are already sold in Philly and the idiots don’t have to go to the stadium if they don’t want to. get a clue before you bring your braindead sh(t my way. call Goodell and get comfirmation. the NFL DOES NOT CARE ABOUT TICKET PAYING CUSTOMERS (except perhaps highrollers).
December 26th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Raider O Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Routt is garbage!
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Least of the Raider’s problems.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:31 pm
Key ingrediants to a good win (meal),92 mia,mBush not wanting to take it to the house but would rather run back to run someone over and i cant believe that with all our wr’s speed that no one can get open therfore meaning ja-soup doesnt have to dump off after 1 read downfield.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
WTF did Hue do to earn a HC position?
Keep hue as an OC, and hire new HC and DC.
I think the new HC sgiykd be more involved in our offense.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
Man we had a great opportunity in the second half.
INDY’s drives to start the 2nd half:
INT
4 and out
3 and out
TD
INT inside the 35
And we got a whole 6 points out of that.
Two INT’s and two quick punts out of 5 drives, and they still outscored us over that stretch, lol.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Why in the world would you want Hue as HC?!
So short sighted and pre-mature, he hasn’t done jack to prove he is worthy. At least Cable has turned this thing around and changed the culture. The team respects him and rallies behind him. The worst possible thing the man upstairs could possibly do is to promote baby Huey. It would set this team back another 4 years.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Raider O,cable is the HC not the OC unless your wanting him overriding cals then that takes us back to lasy year,thats why hue is here.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Jason Campbell 42 attempts. REALLY? SERIOUSLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
CB is a huge need for us. Routt gets picked on every game, and he gives up a lot of plays. You can’t play man, if you don’t have good CBs. Our great CB can cover only cover 1 WR each play!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Darren McFadden 11 carries
Michael Bush 3 carries
REALLY? SERIOUSLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
168.morilla Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Why in the world would you want Hue as HC?!
So short sighted and pre-mature, he hasn’t done jack to prove he is worthy. At least Cable has turned this thing around and changed the culture. The team respects him and rallies behind him. The worst possible thing the man upstairs could possibly do is to promote baby Huey. It would set this team back another 4 years.
Bang on
December 26th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Jason Campbell 42 attempts. REALLY? SERIOUSLY?
-Sid Gillman Football!
SERIOUSLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Yo JFB,
Timmy T didn’t look so bad after all. Maybe I was wrong about him. Guess we’ll see.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Darren McFadden 11 carries
Michael Bush 3 carries
#2 Rushing Team
REALLY? SERIOUSLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Hue Jackson bent over, and Al took over.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
I want to keep Hue as the OC, and hire a new HC that is capable of overriding bad calls.
Fire Marshall and hire Mike S!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
Only thing I can say possitive right know is these games we won this yr we didn’t last yr. Ecspecially against the colts not a win but we didn’t look as bad as we would of if it was a yr ago. Still I hope this team will learn a lot from this yr. The division is ours to have. Atleast sd didn’t win the division this yr and shoot not even in the playoffs. That alone and how improved this team is minus Campbell. Made this yr a hell of a good yr IMO.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Raider O Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
I want to keep Hue as the OC, and hire a new HC that is capable of overriding bad calls.
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Stfu!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:45 pm
-Hire a good HC (Harbaugh), keep Hue, and hire a new DC like Mike S.
-Add a CB, C, G/T, DT/ DE, and a LB.
-Keep JC one more year with Hue, and add a vet WR.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
What about Fitzgerald? Is he going to be a FA?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Ignorant bastard,
You are an idiot, and having a white wife will not help your ignorance!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Was it marshalls fault the D didnt know what it was meant to be doing or maybe the MlB calling the reads?
seem to remember tyvon an namdi goin at it,colts look at that and laugh, “these guys dont know what there doing”
December 26th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
O,when is a good call a bad call?,,only with hindsight.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
I think that’s when Namdi was playing zone and expected tyvon to close in quicker on the receiver. Way too much padding.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Everyone here is posting their opinions and this ignorant MOFO is trying to insult people for having opinions.
Then he calls himself a buhddist, and acts like he is well informed due to his travels.
What an idiot?!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Manning saw zone on that play and audibled into that call. I love that QB, but hate him when he plays us.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Go F yourself you Buhddist Monkey!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
True morilla,but tyvon appeared to be right on that 1,i thought at the time that 21 was indifferent
December 26th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Raider O, my thoughts exactly:
Hire Harbaugh
Keep JC & Hue together for at least one more year (Jason & Hue did earn three 500 yard games for the Raiders this season, even though they did not use Darren and Michael enough)
Singletary is out after season, he would be a fantastic defensive coordinator for the Raiders, he could coach Rolando into an intimidating MLB and even make our defensive a dominating unit.
Keep our Special Teams coach- 3 Tds from KO returns and what 3-4 blocked punts, so close to so many more like today- Cartwright & Ford have been a beast!
December 26th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Identity?
What Identity, Sid Gillman passing team?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Morilla,
Passing 42 times was bad play calling, and the HC should gave done something like override some calls.
December 26th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Raider O Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 6:48 pm
Ignorant bastard,
You are an idiot, and having a white wife will not help your ignorance!
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Go F yourself and that Allah monkey too
December 26th, 2010 at 6:57 pm
O,have a smoke an dont get so worked up,why not wind him up instead,sorry KK
December 26th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
I agree that some of you must simply not watch the game.
The Raiders TRIED to run the ball early, Colts were overloading the run D, and we got
8 YARDS IN THE 1ST QUARTER.
Hmm, I wonder why we didn’t keep trying to do the same thing that got us 8 yards in the first quarter? Wonder why…why…
December 26th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Excuse me, were the Raiders a passing team this year?
December 26th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
RR,
I like your logic.
Mike S can help our D, and improve our young LBs especially McClain.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Stanford stature is ideal for cornerback play.The Raiders can win many more games if they played black and blue ball with average teams.Stanford needs to support his corners position better on running plays than passing plays, in my opinion.
The same goes with Chris Johnson.Next week with a balance attack the Chiefs have,the Raiders will need an aggressive style of on both spectrums of play.
If the corners of the Raiders would have played a better overall game, even including the stale offensive performances, they would be in the playoffs.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
Darren & Michael had some good runs (a few called back due to penalties also), Raiders should have ran more, of course we should have gone .500 against against all the ten loss teams we lossed to (AZ, SF, Hou, Tenn-probably will be).
Raiders never quit against Indy, even though they knew they were out of the playoffs, I’m proud of our team.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:00 pm
What, the #2 Rushing team, can’t rush on the #30 Rushing Defense?
REALLY, SERIOUSLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
Mac,
I’m good bro. I just don’t think Monkeys should be allowed to vote or post.
Damn you Monkeys!!!!!
December 26th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Mike S can help our D, and improve our young LBs especially McClain.
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I thought about this too however, is spingletary DCO material? I know he was a great LB but what is his scheme?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
The Raiders Running game got stuffed in the 1st qtr. Give Up!
REALLY SERIOUSLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Hey, I agree 42 times is not this teams M.O. That game was a mirror image of the Miami game.
I am not sure how the dynamic works between the two. Maybe Hue is under direct control from above on certain things. And if that’s the case, no HC will have veto power in this system.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
First drive: DMC 2 runs, 6 yards, we punt.
2nd drive: DMC 1 run, -4 yards.
3rd drive, 3 and out, quarter over.
We tried running the ball. It gave Manning the ball many times.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
RaiderRetribution
my thoughts a year ago but imo TC has us going in the right direction plus keep hue as OC
December 26th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Give up running the ball in the 1st qtr, against the #30 rush defense?
REALLY SERIOUSLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Raiders get burned often when we go into zone, because we do not play it very often, we probably have this glazed look on our face, and Peyton just reads it,
biggest problem of the day is we never got to Manning, even when we blitzed, we had minimal pressure, no sacks though, Seymour would have made a difference, no way Dominic looks like a pro-bowler with Richard in there.
It was an intense game, too many FGs, not enough sacks, TDs, rushing attempts.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
2nd quarter
3 of 8 plays 1st drive were runs. FG.
5 of 11 plays 2nd drive were runs. FG.
For the first half, Hue Jackson tried running the ball almost half of all the plays, even though we were sucking at it.
Leave our best coach alone.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
You can’t run the ball on the Indianapolis Colts.
REALLY SERIOUSLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Thec,
All Raider DCs have to play man, and they are not allied to blitz. The can only attach the QB! lol
December 26th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
First drive: DMC 2 runs, 6 yards, we punt.
2nd drive: DMC 1 run, -4 yards.
3rd drive, 3 and out, quarter over.
We tried running the ball. It gave Manning the ball many times.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
2nd quarter
3 of 8 plays 1st drive were runs. FG.
5 of 11 plays 2nd drive were runs. FG.
For the first half, Hue Jackson tried running the ball almost half of all the plays, even though we were sucking at it.
Leave our best coach alone.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Saw that Alex,looked like the colts had 15 men on the field
December 26th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Allowed*
December 26th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
First drive: DMC 2 runs, 6 yards, we punt.
2nd drive: DMC 1 run, -4 yards.
3rd drive, 3 and out, quarter over.
We tried running the ball. It gave Manning the ball many times.
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Did we win, or lose?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Raider O Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Thec,
All Raider DCs have to play man, and they are not allied to blitz. The can only attach the QB! lol
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so what are yoyu saying, this is a mandate from the Gm?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
We lost. The #2 Rushing team in the NFL had 14 carries and 42 pass attempts, in a close game.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
KK,
just to be clear, you would have continued to run the ball ineffectively the 2nd half of the game too, right?
Even as the Colts kept putting up points, and we settled for punts and FGs.
Just want to make sure I understand what you would have done.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Cable did get us in the right direction, brought us to respectability.
He is not going to lead us to the playoffs though.
Tom does not have the authority to ovrride Hue, he said it so himself. He and Hue are friends, but it is Hue’s offense.
Raiders need that coach that will get the Raiders to play inspired football against weaker teams.
We are 2-3 players (a veteran WR, OL, and a speed rusher and 2-3 coaches (WR, DC, & HC) away from the SuperBowl.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
209.RaiderRetribution Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Raiders get burned often when we go into zone, because we do not play it very often, we probably have this glazed look on our face, and Peyton just reads it,
biggest problem of the day is we never got to Manning, even when we blitzed, we had minimal pressure, no sacks though, Seymour would have made a difference, no way Dominic looks like a pro-bowler with Richard in there.
It was an intense game, too many FGs, not enough sacks, TDs, rushing attempts.
exactly,the way to beat manning is to confuse not to blitz,after that the pressure will work,sais so in earlier post.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Btw, thanks to Jacoby Ford, the Raiders started with a lead, and could have called whatever they wanted.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
I can see KK going 3 and out constantly in the 2nd half, running Bush and McFadden into 8-man fronts, punting, giving Manning the ball, and getting blown out.
Then KK would congratulate himself for having 20 runs (they don’t add up much when you go 3 and out, huh KK
) and 10 passes in the game, for a time of possession of 3 minutes total, and 13 points.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Overall, I am pretty happy this year with what has happened. There is improvement and a glimmer that this team can be a force. I got to go to a game and see them beat the Donks. SD is knocked out of the playoffs and being down here is great now. It’s suicide watch.
I thought 8-8 ( i know, not yet) would be a huge improvement. I think next year can be a special. Just a couple of pieces away.
One more to go. How about 6-0 in the division? Nation!!!!
December 26th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
And KK, they did call whatever they wanted, running the ball almost half the time, without success, for the entire 1st half.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
What was the teams 3rd down conversion percentage?
Run or Pass we had our shots in the red zone, seems to me we failed to convet those opps…
December 26th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Morilla, what pieces would you say we’re still missing? If you don’t mind, list them in priority, I’m curious.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
It’s not like the Raiders were forced to pass. 80 yds rushing, against the Colts?
Giving up 191 yds on the ground?
That was Hue Jackson’s audition.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
yes Alex, how many times must it be said, you must run the football, even when you are averaging only 2-3 yards a carry to set up your passing game (unless you have a Manning, Brady, Vick, or Brees).
Key note that even the CBS researches caught Darren leads the league in plays of 20+ yards.
Sometimes you have to put up with alot of 2 yd gains until you break one.
That and the size and speed of the Colts D we were playing right into there hands.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
Thec,
Our DCs can have different schemes, but they all have to play man.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
6-0
8-8
December 26th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
LOL, a raiderloss = all the loonies eating each others throats..
December 26th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Thec07 Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
What was the teams 3rd down conversion percentage?
Run or Pass we had our shots in the red zone, seems to me we failed to convet those opps…
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Only in the Red Zone twice.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
221.RaiderRetribution Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 7:10 pm
Cable did get us in the right direction, brought us to respectability.
He is not going to lead us to the playoffs though.
Tom does not have the authority to ovrride Hue, he said it so himself. He and Hue are friends, but it is Hue’s offense.
Raiders need that coach that will get the Raiders to play inspired football against weaker teams.
We are 2-3 players (a veteran WR, OL, and a speed rusher and 2-3 coaches (WR, DC, & HC) away from the SuperBowl.
so why bring in harbaugh,is he gona be allowed to over turn ‘hue’s calls?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:17 pm
Indy was 4 of 11 on 3rd down, Raiders were 4 of 15.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Later Nation.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 7:15 pm
It’s not like the Raiders were forced to pass. 80 yds rushing, against the Colts?
Giving up 191 yds on the ground?
That was Hue Jackson’s audition.
++++++++++++++
Hue jack should be on sucide watch..No way he should be a HC…
December 26th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Yes, or he won’t take the job!
December 26th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
shut it lmn or your toast,,lol,naw good to see your at work,watch the game?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Thec,
JC kept checking down on 3rd downs. No idea why.
Actually, I know why. He plays not to lose, not to throw picks, he needs to be reminded by his coach to “cut it loose” even though it’s his 6th year, takes no chances, even if it’s the only way to win.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
LOL, a raiderloss = all the loonies eating each others throats..
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Right? I usually don’t like coming on here right after the Raiders lose because there are too many kneejerk reactions about who to fire, etc..
December 26th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Ooooohhhhhh the 8 man fronts…….I forgot about that.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
later o
December 26th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
Jason needs Hue to return as offensive coordinator as much as the Raiders do.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
4 of 15 or 26% 3rd down conversion rate….
December 26th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
mute point RR
December 26th, 2010 at 7:20 pm
ltr O…Enjoy the disc loss….
December 26th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
I would say a veteran WR, fix the right side of the OL, and work on our secondary ( there has been some shaky play back there as of late).
December 26th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
It’s Hue Jack’s fault we couldn’t run the ball when he tried running it on 40% of our 1st half’s plays?
He called for runs on 5 of our first 8 plays. The Colts stopped us, we punted twice. Hue kept running it 2nd quarter, and the Colts were expecting it and shoving it.
But it’s Hue’s fault for not being able to block 8 men with 6 men.
You are something else.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:21 pm
was mario really that bad as RT?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
The naked bootleg works every time.
But the Raiders aren’t smart enough to use it or defend against it.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
with the 2nd pick Raiders now a lock between the 12th and 18th pick of the second round, barring a trade.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
It’s Hue’s fault he didn’t run any misdirection except one play.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
First round pick is just that no matter how you slice it. Thankfully its not a top ten like most ssuggested…
December 26th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
I think how they approach the run could have been handeled different. They seemed to do better right up the gut. Trying to get the edge on the Colts is almost impossible. They are way too fast.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Young American,
I hear you on the knee-jerk reactions. I’m trying to educate some people here and bring facts into the equation.
Seems like a lost cause sometimes.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
I know there is a lot of frustration boiling over after another disappointing loss…but, damn some of you guys are killing me. Bashing Hue and JC…really????
For most of the last seven years this team would be giddy if they scored 17 fricking points. This team has taken a monumental leap forward in Jackson’s first year as OC. They are 8th in total offense. They have scored 30+ ponts in 5 diff. games, plus 28 in a win over the chargers. Swept SD after losing the previous 13.
Hue should get at least partial credit for helping jumpstart DMacs career. He’s utilized him well, and playcalled to his strengths for the most part.
If they beat KC and sweep div. rivals and head into offseason at 8-8, that is something to build on. Another strong draft and FA period and look out. Continue to strengthen the OL.
Another offseason should do Hue, JC and the WR corps a world of good.
They have taken a large step up from abysmal, bottom of the barrell offense to competent and respectable.
Hopefully, next year they take another jump from decent to formidable or even dominant.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Kirk, Jason used it just a few weeks ago.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Kirk wants more misdirections against a fast defense.
Morilla wants more runs up the middle.
I want a QB who can throw the ball down field instead of checking down twice in a row on 2nd and 10 and 3rd and 6.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Completely agree Buckie
December 26th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
#257,
I couldn’t agree more.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:29 pm
nice one Buckye
December 26th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
gotta agree with the 257 too
December 26th, 2010 at 7:30 pm
Buckeye,
thanks for your non-emotional, rational post.
I will say though that the whole “QB needs more than a year in a system to be comfortable” thing is a little far-fetched.
Rex Grossman took the Redskins reigns and ran with it right away.
Orton came out on fire in Denver last year.
Warner in Arizona didn’t need an adjustment.
Bradford in St. Louis is kicking butt 1st year in system with no WRs.
Brees 1st year in NO
Schaub 1st year in Houston.
If you’re good, you can QB well your 1st year in a system.
If you’re really young, I’d understand. But Campbell is almost 30.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:31 pm
Alex7 Says:
December 26th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Kirk wants more misdirections against a fast defense.
Morilla wants more runs up the middle.
I want a QB who can throw the ball down field instead of checking down twice in a row on 2nd and 10 and 3rd and 6.
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Hahahahaha, now that’s a list.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
hard to fathom that we have brains istead of dolts for a welcome change
December 26th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
You think Ortin will be in Denver next year?
Runs from the room.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Next year we have a very very tough schedule.
Our QB has sucked against the Titans, 49ers, Rams, Steelers, and Colts.
Next year he gets the Patriots, Jets, Bears, Packers, and Vikings D.
I don’t see an improvement next year unless the top position changes.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
14 Rushing attempts against the #30 Rushing Defense, in a close game.
The #2 Rushing Team Lost.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Orton would be an improvement, Morilla
At least his WRs lead the team in catches.
Imagine if he’d had a D and running game there with his passing #s.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
plus the lions are gona be very hard
December 26th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Fellas,
The Raiders were not a playoff team this year. Still too many holes…too many penalties and too much inconsistency from players to coaches.
Key for the offseason is:
1. Keeping Miller, Seymour and Bush.
2. Sign an elite 2nd corner to match with Nnamdi or allow and practice more zone concepts
3. Get a RT that can both run and pass block
4. Send the coaches to a couple of clinics on how to run a training camp, coach fundamentals and both identifying and executing in-game adjustments
5. Oh, hire a special teams coach
December 26th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Checking down to Mac/Bush are not rush attempts.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
ok KK change your tag to SK
December 26th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
The Raiders should be kicking themselves for being eliminated from playoff contention. They let some opportunities slip away. AZ,SF and Jax most notably.
But, they are a young team, learning how to win. They are close. Knocking on the playoff door, really.
And yet it seems the majority, or at least a very vocal minority want to blow it all up and start all over. Fire this coach, He’s gotta go too. They’re all bums.
It would be funny, if it wasn’ so sad. I don’t wanna hear about Cowher, or Gruden coming back. That’s pie in the sky BS. Ain’t happenin folks.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Al Davis will not allow a Rushing Team.
Hue Jackson is applying.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
no one expected the playoffs this year,that we were close is commendable,good things to build on.keep the faith.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Every time the Raiders get away from the running game, they lose.
-On principle
December 26th, 2010 at 7:41 pm
McFadden get’s 11 carries, Bush 3. REALLY SERIOUSLY?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
McFadden get’s 11 carries, Bush 3. REALLY SERIOUSLY?
What, the game got out of hand?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
McFadden get’s 11 carries, Bush 3. REALLY SERIOUSLY?
What, the game got out of hand?
When did the game get out of hand?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
or maybe mjd up the gut for 31 yards was bad
on principle
December 26th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
It was great to see Schilens get some receptions.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:44 pm
time for a hairut old man?
maybe trim some bush?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
KK, why do you ask questions if you ignore the answer?
That’s a trait of someone averse to learning.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
for some reason D’s hate it when he’s(eventually) on the field.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
Alex,
I don’t think JC was that bad today really. Wasn’t great, by any means. But, as you’ve already mentioned, quite accurately to those who are complaining we didn’t run it enough…well, they tried..but couldn’t.
The Colts controlled the LOS. They throttled the Raiders #2 ranked run game. Their speed eliminated the Raiders screens. Plays that might have been huge gains against other D’s were dragged down from behind for meager two yard gains.
So after those two elements of the Raider O were neutralized, what did Hue and JC have left? A rookie LT matched against Dwight frickin Freeney and Mario Henderson making his first career start at RT vs. Mathis. Really?
People complaing about checkdown. Really? You think JC had all day back there for the deep routes to develope.
I think JC accounted fairly well for himself today. As he has since Grads went down, really. He wasn’t the reason they lost to Jax, and he wasn’t the reason they lost today.
They lost the battle at the LOS. Both sides.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
jason campbell had plenty of times to throw down the field. there was 1 play where he immediately checked down to bush when he had dhb open down the sideline. he took the safe route 2 many times to make things happen. he had a play where he couldve ran for a td or atleast to the 5 and threw across his body to miller who was covered. the pass was incomplete and we kicked a field goal. i think that was the kick jano missed. we were down 24-19 at the time. this dude just isnt a winner. he has no fire to will his team to a victory and im sick of it. tired of guys who just accept things as they are instead of taking it. this was a game HE needed to take from peyton. notice how peyton called that bootleg for himself to ice the game? thats what winners do.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
for kk,too many roofees Alex?
December 26th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
There was a play in the first quarter that was a head-scratcher.
3rd and long, we have our O-line in and bring in Miller for added protection. The Colts rush only 4, but yet somehow we roll the protection to have Zac Miller singled up on Mathis, who blows past him and nails JC before he can throw it.
Don’t no who to blame on that. Was it a designed call? Is the C supposed to call out protections? I know QB’s also call out some protections as well.
Either way, it was another example of being severely outcoached/outsmarted, even though the Colts just stayed in a base defense.
Hue Jackson, Jason Campbell and Tom Cable are the kids in the back of class not paying attention, eating paste and being part of no child left behind.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
The Raiders ran the ball for 40% of their 1st half’s plays, all the way until they went pass-mode for the 2 minute drill and got a FG out of it.
40% of 1st half plays were runs.
We sucked at them.
We punted alot.
We gave Manning the ball alot.
That isn’t a recipe for success if it’s failing.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:55 pm
dhb was open all day and jc didnt look his way enuff just like last week. if we want our wrs to develop then we need to get a qb who is willing and talented enuff to do it. fugg not havin confidence in these guys.he doesnt have confidence in himself and it shows. he did another one of his puzzy azz get down slides. i mean really, he doesnt even slide right. i have never seen a more scary qb play in my life.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
When you go 3 and out a lot because you can’t run the ball well, the number of carries you get stays very low.
Seems logical.
The Raiders threw about 20 passes in just 3 drives:
One-minute drill at end of first half.
Two drives in 4th quarter when down 2 scores.
JC passed 11 times in final drive, ending in a TD.
Take away those 3 drives where you kinda HAVE to throw, and it was a balanced game-plan.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Raiders had a great special teams this season, they got off to a slow start, but came out like gang busters ever since the first victory over the Chargers.
We had two blocked punts that game – nearly a third, we’ve had 3 KO’s returned for TDs (two opening KO’s, which the HC and OC wasted) and we have been so close to blocking a half dozen other punts.
We do not overhaul that we build upon it, just as we build upon Cable’s efforts to steer this team in a winning direction, we need a true HC.
We must build on Hue’s production as well.
December 26th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
should have been a fan last year armond
December 26th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Armond,
I think your point in post 292 is VERY true but most fans can’t see that because of the TV camera views we get.
I would LOVE to see that 22-man camera angle and see how often a WR is actually open and JC checks down instead.
Might this be the reason Jackson and Cable benched JC twice this year?
December 26th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
it just really sucks because we were scheduled to play the 3 worst divisions in football (AFC south(this year it sucked) AFC West(really no GREAT team) and NFC West)-and we got to play them 14 games(13 so far). the fact that the raiders didnt go atleast 8-5 up to this point is a dissapointment, shoulda been 9-4 against those teams. we’ll probably never get a schedule this easy again, but that being said, this team will be even better next year (watch out for J. Ford.) and i think we can match up with the bears and vikes etc.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
I still like the taste of Elmer’s glue when it removes the crud from between my fingers.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
One thing noboby seems to touch on, is that part of the reason the O-line looks so bad, is because teams blitz the crap out of us and than just cover the short route.
They know that (A) our O-line will not do a good job picking up the blitz and (B) Campbell will immediately dump it off.
So they bunch the LOS, attack the backfield and make sure to cover the TE or FB on the short route.
Campbell refuses to stand tall and take a chance down the field to a WR, and sometimes he would break the pocket (he is good at sliding in the pocket) but again he will dump it to RB out of the backfield. He has had some success at this, but you just can’t do it EVERY SINGLE TIME.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
They’re showing the Highlights on NFLN right now. Deion’s in the background yelling “let ‘em play”. Those PI’s piss me off. They get no breaks..no benefit of the doubt. They get held to the letter of the law, every time. I don’t know if it’s because of reputation or what.
It’s something they’re going to have to fight through and overcome. Doesn’t make it fair, though.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
we had a crap st this year,if only for a few plays we would be at the arse end,coverage was awful
December 26th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
that pi on routt should never been called. the only reason the colts got 30 was cuz of the punkazz refs on that play. our zone is fugged up and i dont know what to say. u can really see how stupid these guys/coaches are when u r at the game. u can call out what will happen based on the alignment before it happens. naamdi on the other side of the field in a trips set, the blown coverage by branch behind aso and mcclain slpit out wide AGAIN. we are so fundamentally flawed its pathetic.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Offense:
Its hard to judge a QB that has never been in a system for more than one year. JC has had a new OC and new system every year that he has been a professional. I think that going into next season the Raiders should see how much development occurs.
Also I think that its hard to judge a OC that is just completing his first year of ever being an OC. Give JC a chance to create chemistry with his WR corps. Give Hue a chance to truly evaluate what he has in his toolbox. Personally I think that DHB is not a deep threat. His strength is RAC. Now we just have to focus him on route running and catching the ball. I think that Hue will make those adjustments and use him better. I think that Ford is a potential big play threat in the Steve Smith mode. Next year will be exciting to see him develop. Maybe we get Chaz back and Murphy continues to develop. Couple that with an effective run game and we are in a good position to be successful next year. I would like to see the Raiders hire a better WR coach. I’ve never been sold on Sanjay Lal.
We can increase depth and get some competition thru the draft. I’d like to see the Raiders pick up Wiz’s nephew out of Penn State or the Center at FSU. I was happy with Satele’s development late in the season but we need depth in the interior of our line. Tackles can get some help from chip blocks and TE’s. But the best way to help an offense in pass protection is for the QB to able to step up in the pocket.
I’d also like to see the Raiders pick up a young QB that can be developed. I was hoping Colt Brennan would have stayed as the 3rd QB but I don’t know if he has recovered from his car accident after the Raiders cut him. It won’t hurt to bring back Grad’s but we have to understand that he can’t be relied on because he is injury prone.
As for Cable, I’ve been on the fence with him for a long time. I wanted Trestman to come back because the offense he brings has the same firepower that we saw today with the Colts. I hope that the Broncos (he “retaught” Tebow how to throw a football) don’t pick him up from the CFL.
Cable did something that no one else has been able to do since Gruden. He convinced this team to give a damn about being Raiders again. What none of the media (Jerry) has mentioned is that we haven’t been blasted by the term “organizational dysfunction” by all of the mainstream media, unless you count KK and RMR as mainstream. We built on a solid off-season and draft and took a good first step in the right direction. Now the bar has been raised and a playoff run should be expected for next year.
Although no one can be satisfied with a potential 8-8 finish, everyone has to admit we have come out of that 7 year tunnel and taken one step closer to being back on top. If we beat KC next week and I mean beat them bad, then this team can go into the off-season knowing that they dominated the AFC West. That is something to build on. We haven’t had that around here in a long time.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
There was just too many things that needed to go right today, and about half of them did even then the Raiders still only lost by five points. Still a loss.
It was going to be a tall order and got bigger without Seymour, there is also a big gap between Walker and Henderson, and Jason is still learning, very hard too handle Freeney and Mathis.
And, as always either the Raiders are just the most undisciplined players in the league or the refs have a different agenda with the them. Bad enough to play against Manning another is to have the refs make every call against you.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
OK Nation, I calmed down after taking a nap.
Here’s what I think will happen with the coaches.
*Cable stays because the team did make a big improvement from last year.
Hue Jax will obviously stay and build on the success of the offense in year two.
Marshall will be given one more year because his unit did improve from last year and it would be another year for his defense to grow.
*If anyone is let go it’s Cable because he is in last year of contract and he’s been here the longest and still no playoffs. He’s the last of the double digit loss stench still around.
Now what Hue Jax and Marshall have going in their favor is the QB of each unit.
We know Campbell will take maybe a week off after the season and be right back at it, working out, watching film and correcting mistakes. He won’t eat much either.
McClain is a well known film junkie so he will improve from his rookie year.
I feel good about our direction. Go Raiders!
December 26th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Alex, I can tell the WRs are open, when I see 4 rushing the QB, two defenders on Zach and two on Darren, that leaves 3 on 3 which means 3 one on one.
JC does check down too much, he will have a complete training camp and a second year with these WRs and OC ( as long as he doesn’t accept a HC job somewhere else) to resolve that issue.
If we lose Hue, I have no problem getting a better QB than Jason…
who is better than Jason that will be available?
December 26th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
McClain didnt het a tackle until half-way through the third quarter. I’ve never seen a MLB guess wrong so many times in 1 game and fill the wrong gap.
All three LB’s sucked today. no contain
December 26th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Buckeye Raider,
I think a good QB gets rid of the ball in the 3 seconds that Campbell was afforded on most passing plays. He too often backpedals then checks down (instead of stepping up and finding a WR).
More importantly Buckeye, do you see JC as a guy that can lead us to victories when the Jets, Patriots, Bears, Lions, and Packers also choke off our run game next season?
December 26th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
oh, and Vikings too.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
If he isn’t the type that can do that, then I don’t see much of a reason to expect to go better than 7-9 next year.
To be a playoff team, you need a playoff QB.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Jets, Patriots, Bears, Lions, and Packers oh my
December 26th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Black haired draft guru may get his wish,
Panthers will draft Luck (possibly Cam), depending on contract negotiations.
So the Raiders could offer a 7th round pick for Clausen….
acgghhkkrgkk
December 26th, 2010 at 8:08 pm
Campbell refuses to stand tall and take a chance down the field to a WR, and sometimes he would break the pocket (he is good at sliding in the pocket) but again he will dump it to RB out of the backfield. He has had some success at this, but you just can’t do it EVERY SINGLE TIME.
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BINGO, HALLELUJAH!!! he will not stand tall in the pocket and make the big league throws. he had time to do that but refuses. that was the talk of the whole damn section i was in. he plays scary. all he wants to do is play safe without taking chances. no guts no glory.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Other teams we play don’t fear Campbell not there d cordinators not there safetys not there d backs no one. They no stop the run have campbell TRY to beat us and we win. If we only had a qb who could do more. Other teams would fear us as far as the offense goes. Everyone just imagine how potent we would be on O with a good qb you think we scored points this yr imagine a good qb in our system. And Campbell is not the reason we scored points this yr if ghats what some people are thinking.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Dare i say it ,trade a film junkie(MOVIE BUFF) for a playa
December 26th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Stanzi, Locher could be there when we draft in the second, but I would much rather have that top tiered OL or DE that fell down in the draft.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
I really want to see Schilens more involved. I know they need to creep him in slowly, but he is a beast.
Imagine him and Fitzgerald out there running routes.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Retribution,
good points on the one-on-one matchups. EVERY NFL QB lives for 1-1 matchups, but ours doesn’t take advantage of them.
The problem is, he had that reputation for 4 YEARS in Washington, despite having Santana Moss and Chris Cooley as sure-handed options.
Campbell earned the nickname “Captain Checkdown” in Washington.
I don’t think this problem is correctable.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
also some of u in here were asking who jacob tamme was. well i watched him alot at kentucky and thought he would be a good backup to miller when he came out. he can catch really good but is undersized by todays standards. he also isnt a great blocker but miller aint that good at it himself. dont sleep on tamme cuz he can ball. he is way better than meyers.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
dmc suffered another lil turf toe yall. probably why he didnt play as much.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
McClain needs to train hard this offseason. He needs to cut some fat and work on his lateral speed and overall closing speed. I am willing to cut him some slack since he is a rookie.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
JC has had Cable telling him to “cut it loose” for months.
His coaches in Washington certainly told him the same thing if he had the “Captain Checkdown” nickname AND was benched multiple times in his career there.
He didn’t have the sense to throw it into the end zone at the end of the Jax game.
He waited until we were down 2 scores to start forcing throws downfield.
I think it’s part of his too-laid-back demeanor, and that isn’t correctable.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Mr. Ford & Mr. D. McFadden are the main two reasons we had our three 500 yard games against Denver (twice) and Seattle.
Each game Darren had a 100+ yds rushing nad Ford had a big play (reverses and/or receptions).
Ford is the primary reason we defeated Kansas City.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
alex7 it aint correctable. he is who he is and it makes me sick that he doesnt see it as a problem. we need a speed rusher at de. more evidence of that 2day as i have been saying for so long. when seymour is out we dont do sh!t. shawny is good but he aint great. houston is more of a dt in a 4-3. all of this gets exposed when big sey is gone. yall need to hear me on this.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
gnite ladies points taken,will discuss in the morrow,
,morilla,alex7, RaiderRetribution ,and the old man,,KK,have a blast gents,ciao
December 26th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Carson Palmer might be available, and while he’s had a down year, he also has made the playoffs twice in his career, thrown for 3,500 yards and 25 TDs almost annually, and has done this facing the
Ravens and Steelers twice each year.
You saw what he just did to the Chargers.
Imagine him against the soft AFC West.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Alex,
Next years schedule does look daunting to say the least. At least the rest of the div. should play a similar schedule. KC’s should be tougher they play the other div. winners. Raiders will play 3rd place schedule.
Who knows how good a team is going to be next year anyway. Hell, teams can change dramatically from one part of a season to another. Let alone one season to the next. Look at Tennessee this year. The team that started 5-2 and looked like a contender to what we saw today vs. KC.
Then you factor in injuries, roster turnover. Minnesota could be 10-6 next year or 3-13. Hell, who knows?
December 26th, 2010 at 8:20 pm
Morilla, most definately,
McClain needs some acceleration, he needs to put in some of Mr. Walter Payton’s workouts.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
thanks Mac, see ya.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
Tamme has someone on his staff that teaches route running better than Lal.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
True, anything can happen with other teams, but for the most part, teams with Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, Jay Cutler, Tom Brady, and the Jets run-game will continue to outrace us
if we have JC.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Holy crap..it’s 11:30. Past my bedtime. Back to work tomorrow..my last week.
G’night fellas.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
See ya Mac. I am stuck in a blizzard out here in NY. Currently drinking in the basement of my in-laws. By myself and drawing on my daughters GloDoodle. Haha.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
alex7 Says:
I think it’s part of his too-laid-back demeanor, and that isn’t correctable.
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Stabler had the most laid back demeanor of any Raider QB’s. And he put the ball where he wanted to when he wanted to. Two factors about JC checking down too much (which i think that he does).
1. I think is has to do more with the fact that this is his first year in this system and a lack of faith in his WR’s. If you drop back and see DMAC or Louis Murphy who are you going to pass to?
2. When do you see JC step up in the pocket? Now that’s either a problem with the interior of the Oline or its something that he has to be coached up on.
The problem with getting rid of JC is that I don’t see anyone that is going to be an improvement. I don’t see any QB’s that are coming out of the draft that wouldn’t benefit from a year on the bench learning (we might have a shot at a Ponder or Locker).
Personally, I’m hoping that we pick up Landry Jones from OU in a couple of years, so i’m willing to wait and let JC get the job done in the meantime.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Peyton Manning makes all guys with 2 hands look awesome.
Tamme has 60 catches and 564 yards in 9 games.
He’s legit, or Manning is legit, or both, so no shame in our safety losing a 1 on 1 battle with him.
I can’t remember the last time I saw JC throw a nice seam route down the middle of the field.
Weird.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
14 Rushing attempts against the Indy Colts?
Really?
December 26th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
lol, KK is on noob or troll ignore.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
DT42,
good points on JC, and I’m not sure if a veteran QB who still doesn’t have pocket awareness and mobility inside of it will suddenly learn it at age 30 next year
As for the laid back demeanor, I know Stabler didn’t carry that over onto the football field. He wanted to win at all costs. Can’t say JC shows that same passion or awareness.
He’d RATHER check down because it’s the safe bet, not because it helps his team win. He does it regardless of the situation (Jax to end the game) and he’s been plagued by it even though he had Santana Moss year after year in Washington.
Don’t think it has to do with WR trust issues, nor should it.
December 26th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Can we all agree that the Raiders made it a game today! I wasn’t expecting to win against Peyton Manning, horrible team this year. But the progress the Raiders made since the first half of the season. Are we better than the past 10 years, maybe. We need to be a running team. Does Fatboy Cable need to be around next season? No. Just bring in a shared HC for the team. Draft more capable T, G, Blocking TE, veteran WR for the Offense. A troublemaker on the field and not OFF. Revamp the Defense on the line, CB to help out. Bring in the old Raider mystique the misfits, the misled and young players. Watch this team florish to the days of old. I believe this Raiders can wipe the division clean with an 6-0 record.
I’m all the way HAPPY. And for the haters of Jason Campbell quit wining like a bunch of old ladies that you are!!!!! We don’t need Donovan McNabb either!!!!
December 26th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
Once again, give me a free agent QB that is MEASURABLY better than JC.
Don’t give me another retread with question marks because that’s what we have with JC. I’ll take JC with all his flaws after a year in the system and another offseason.
You bring in another new QB, and you are tossing the season away. With all the B.S about this and that…the Raiders could have been a playoff team.
Let’s get a possession receiver OR pray that Schilens can stay healthy…BTW, he shouldn’t play tomorrow…
All the teeth gnashing in the world is not going to change the fact that the QB situation is what it is.
Bringing in an unproven rookie to start is lunacy after the JaDavis debacle and the Raider history developing QBs.
You run with JC and beef up the o-line and receiver corps. The offense, with all the issues still was top 10.
December 27th, 2010 at 3:26 am
GRUDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!