Raiders players unanimous in support of bringing back coach Cable
By Steve Corkran
Monday, December 27th, 2010 at 11:57 am in Oakland Raiders.
A canvassing of the Raiders locker room Monday revealed unanimous support for coach Tom Cable coming back for a fourth season in his current capacity.
Cable replaced Lane Kiffin four games into the 2008 season as the interim coach. Managing general partner Al Davis removed the interim tag after the 2008 season and entusted the Raiders fortune to Cable, who was the Raiders offensive line coach in 2007 and the first four games of the ‘08 season.
The Raiders went 4-8 under Cable in 2008, 5-11 last season and are at 7-8 this season. Already, the Raiders have won more games this season than they did in any of the previous seven campaigns. To a man, Raiders players say Davis needs to exercise the option he holds on Cable’s contract.
“It would be a huge setback,” punter Shane Lechler said. “We’ve invested so much of our time and there’s been so much commitment starting from the day he took over. Not only this year. He had a plan. The plan is working. It would be a terrible disappointment if there was a change because he’s the guy for this job. This job is for a blue-collar, hard-nosed coach. That’s what we need.”
Lechler is playing for his sixth coach since he arrived in Oakland in 2000 — Jon Gruden, Bill Callahan, Norv Turner, Art Shell, Kiffin and Cable. He said he’s tired of hearing from new coaches who promise change and fall short on the delivery part.
With Cable, the Raiders are making steady progress and headed in the right direction, Lechler said.
“You can’t have a flashy guy come in,” Lechler said. “I’ve heard it too many times. Every coach comes in, ‘Oh, I’m going to fix this. I’m going to turn this thing around.’ (B.S.). You can’t say that every time because people start calling your bluff. … Cable’s the hard-nosed, blue-collar guy that we need for this job.”
On it went, from one end of the locker room to the other, with player after player singing Cable’s praises and lobbying for his return. The support came from offensive, defensive and special teams players.
“Obviously, I don’t make that decision,” left guard Robert Gallery said. “I know this locker room wants that. We need that. We didn’t accomplish what we wanted to this year, going to the playoffs, but we definitely took a step forward from where we’ve been. He’s a big reason for that step.”
Tight end Zach Miller said that Cable has garnered the respect of the players because of his no-nonsense approach. Players know what to expect, where they stand and how things are going to be day in, day out.
“He tells it like it is,” Miller said. “He doesn’t sugarcoat anything. He’s honest with us. He tells us exactly how things are, what he needs from us, how he wants us to work, how he wants us to keep grinding as a football team and keep getting better. He’s always been like that and he’s always motivated us to play as hard as we can every chance we get. You see that most of the time on the field. … The guys respect that. All the guys respect coach Cable for being like that.”
First-year Raiders linebacker Quentin Groves said he is impressed with the way Cable is in tune with his players’ needs and does more than pay lip service to looking out for their well being.
“We love him, man, and he’s a great guy to play for,” Groves said. “He’s a player’s coach, and I never knew what that was until I came here. He is really a player’s coach. He doesn’t beat your body down, he takes care of your body during the season. He is actually a player’s coach and I would hate to see him go.”
Cable said he hasn’t spoken with Davis about his long-term status. For now, his thoughts are centered on the Chiefs game.
“I haven’t even thought about it yet because of what we’ve been trying to do here in the last month,” Cable said. “It’s really been probably the furthest thing from my mind. As we get done with the season, we’ll have a couple, two- or three-week period there here, it will be time for all that. But right now, I just want to concentrate on trying to win that eighth game and seeing if we can go 6-0 in the division. So, in all fairness to that question or situation, I just haven’t thought about it yet.”
Cable doesn’t sound like a man worried about his job security, though he admits he wants to stick around for at least another season.
“I’m good at what I do,” Cable said. “So I’m going to coach football. That’s just what I do. In terms of being here and all that, I know that I want to coach this football team. But that’s for after the season, in terms of how it’s discussed and when it’s discussed.”
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December 27th, 2010 at 11:58 am
First, STOP THE DAMN RUN!
December 27th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
Who are you and where is Jerry?
December 27th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
It would be a terrible disappointment if there was a change because he’s the guy for this job. This job is for a blue-collar, hard-nosed Al’s spy slappin’ coach. That’s what we need.”
December 27th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
I could have sworn Mistic1 told us Cable lost the lockerroom.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Man, ever time I see cable, I want to tell him about my troublesome toilet and ask him if he can fix it. But, there’s no denying it that the team has looked better this year than in years past. Being relevant especially after the recent past feels really good. Baby steps…
December 27th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
He said he’s tired of hearing from new coaches who promise change and fall short on the delivery part.
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HHEEEYYY. O told us not to get political!!!
December 27th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
LMAO TW.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Singletary was fire and his record as HC was 18-22.
Cable should stay with 16-27 record!!!!??????!!!!!
You Suck!!! We want Jerry!
December 27th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
16-27?!?!?!?!
Fire The Fat Monkey!!
December 27th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Well, with the Raiders, you have to give two takes:
1) As long as Al’s in charge, we might as well stick with Cable. The improvement Cable has brought in this system is off the charts compared to his predecessors.
2) If Al’s not GM…And you start from scratch to build a real SB team like a New England or New Orleans…Cable isn’t even on the long list.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Absolutely NO reason to dump Tom Cable. The Raiders are a better team and better lead through the staff (and that all starts with Cable) and you canot keep changing coaches every few years. Had Gruden been left intact the Raiders would have had at least one and maybe two Superbowl titles by now. Cable isn’t Gruden. But he isn’t better or worse, just different.
Leave Tom Cable in and the Raiders will take a huge step up in 2011.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Singletary was fire and his record as HC was 18-22.
Cable should stay with 16-27 record!!!!??????!!!!!
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All Singletary did is yell at his players! Barney Rubble b!tch slapped Al’s spy!!! lol
December 27th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
His track record as a head coach is awful. This team is 7-8 because the schedule is soft and the division is awful. Too many blow outs on his watch and the lack of consistency is what is most discouraging. Great individual play has carried us not good leadership…any coach would have won seven games with this schedule when you have Jacoby ford and Mcfadden have so many great individual games.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Jerry’s on Vacation?
December 27th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
Let’s finish the season 8-8….have some pride!
Undefeated in our division, we’ll have something to brag about!
December 27th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
49ers protect their QBs. Goes back to Montana and Young. Local media hails every Niners QB as the next Montana. So there’s a marketing aspect to it, too. If the Niners dump their lame QBs and start over in that department, the media will turn on them and their fans might too.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Don’t overthink it.
Coaches need good QBs.
Look at Norv’s and Fisher’s record with Rivers/Young/McNair and with scrub QBs
Coaches don’t get dumber and smarter year to year.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Gents, what makes you think you know better than the 53 guys in the locker room who’ve seen Cable in action every day for the last five months. Do you think any panty-waist coach (like Norval) could have gotten more out of this team than Cable did? The players have said it themselves – the answer is a resounding NO!
December 27th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
49ers protect their QBs. Goes back to Montana and Young. Local media hails every Niners QB as the next Montana. So there’s a marketing aspect to it, too. If the Niners dump their lame QBs and start over in that department, the media will turn on them and their fans might too.
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This is why you should stick to your porn sites, instead of trying to discuss football. The Niners have had lame qb after lame qb, since Young left, you moron.
And seems every single home game of theirs is still on tv, you moron.
Now tell us again why you can’t get a date.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
I think Cable has done a good job in bringing this team back to relevance. It sucks that we didn’t make the playoffs this year, I thought after we beat SD the first time that this team was going to start firing on all cylinders, but we had some of those maddening losses (SF, MIA, JAX) to remind us that we were quite there yet. I think that this week is going to decide Cable’s fate. A win could get him some more time to push this team into the playoffs next year, or a loss could begin the Hue Jackson era. But this feels an awful lot like ‘99, as Jerry has said a lot this year. I think if we show up and beat whoever KC decides to put on the field next week, good things will happen for us next year. But we still need to tighten up the O-line and D-line, draft some guys that can TACKLE, and find a solid WR.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
Pretty lame to run the “players want him back”.
Is there ever, as in EVER an instance where a current player dissed a current coach, and didn’t suffer the consequences? Of course they’re going to say they want him back, knowing Al, and the coaches are reading their comments.
And oddly, after the coaches are fired? All those same players now state “we needed a change”.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Cable is a players coach, keep him around.
Cable kinda reminds me of Madden….players like him.
Our main objective is keep Hue also…
First year Cable and Hue was not bad, give them a couple of years together.
We’ll be Best in the West…ladies and gents, and that’s how the west is won!
December 27th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
How many fantasy points did Jano put up?
December 27th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Expect Cable to be back AND Hue Jackson!
December 27th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Players LOVE soft coaches, that never demand better.
They look at it as job security.
Guy never gets in their grill? Never benches players? Doesn’t hold them accountable for penalties?
Wht’s not to like?
Cable had no idea who is running back was, like a fool.
States “Grad is our starting qb” on Monday, only to state on Wed “oh. meant JC is” then states Grad is, then JC is.
Asked about injuries? “Can’t talk about that”
Players asked about injuries? “for some reason, can’t talk about that”
assts hired? Cable last person to know.
Some idiot above actually compared Cable to Madden?
Guys record sucks because as a hc he sucks.
some of you, sadly, need to be told what to think.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
We need to face facts. We still do not have a lot of premium talent on this team. When we win, it’s because we play the best we can possibly play. When we can play poorly and still win, then we will be a good team. It’s like a moving average: there are still a lot of bad data points in there.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Reminds me of….I’m not talking about track record!
You seem to be wise guy, who do you think our coach should be?
December 27th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Sammy, you want a “tough” coach like Shanahan? What has Shanahan ever done without Elway. Even in their Superbowl years, they could not have won without two all-world years from Terrell Davis – a fluke 6th round find.
December 27th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Spartacus,
looking at the 53-man rosters, we had much more talent than the Colts.
More talented D-line, DBs, RBs, and special teams. Talent-wise, similar on the O-Line (their QB gets rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds). Similar at LB (they weren’t trying to stop the run with 6 in the box
)
Our schemes suck, and our QB sucks.
Our D scheme sucks because Al hates zone so we don’t improve on it, and our QB can’t keep drives going.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
Shanahan has proved to have a running system where every single RB excels. Give him credit for Terrell Davis. That play-action system also helped get superb seasons from Brian Griese and Jay Cutler.
Outside of Elway, Shanahan has zero Super Bowls, but a few playoff appearances.
Continue your debate from there.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Richochet, no doubt Al’s calling the shots. But at least Cable tried to bench Campbell. In fact, he did, knowing he could get fired for it. He eventually caved. Out of the parade of buffoons that followed Gruden, only Lance has shown more balls than Cable when it comes to standing up to Al. The Raiders are at least back to the middle tier of the league now, sort of where they were for so many years in the late ’80s to late ’90s. Playing for a playoff spot in the final game, or second to final game, etc. I’ll take that over the cellar. In a perfect world, Al retires and hires a GM. And you know I will be as critical of him as anyone until he does. But until that day, I’ll take Cable’s improvement. The Raiders will probably stay this way under Cable…making it interesting right up to the end..either barely getting a wild card and getting eliminated in the first round, or just missing the playoffs. If we want to win a SB we have to do what the SB winning teams do, and we’re nowhere near it. Never will be again as long as Al’s here because nobody like Gruden would ever come here again, IMO. Not after that Kiffin fiasco.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
alex7 Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Spartacus,
looking at the 53-man rosters, we had much more talent than the Colts.
More talented D-line, DBs, RBs, and special teams. Talent-wise, similar on the O-Line (their QB gets rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds). Similar at LB (they weren’t trying to stop the run with 6 in the box )
Our schemes suck, and our QB sucks.
Our D scheme sucks because Al hates zone so we don’t improve on it, and our QB can’t keep drives going.
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All valid points, Alex, I guess the common denominator in all our deficiencies is the ingrained “corporate philsophy”.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
cable is not the problem 16-27 is not bad for what he has remember mr davis is the gm.russell was here and gone and we improved,we have no wr’s other than ford and miller,and our defense is still suspect although improved this year.Give cable at least 1 more season go out and get some free agents and next season is playoffs or bust then fire him if we don’t make it next season.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:04 pm
I am Spartacus Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Sammy, you want a “tough” coach like Shanahan? What has Shanahan ever done without Elway.
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Kept the Broncos on the top tier of the league for nearly a decade after Elway left. I don’t like Shanarat any more than you do, but don’t embarrass yourself by calling Shannahan’s results into question while wearing a Raiders shirt.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
You are all cunts — leave Corkran alone.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Alright, let’s predict what Romo’s take will be after Cable’s press conference:
“They need to get fired up. Just get after it. Crack someone’s head. You have to do that in this game. You can’t just go out there and hope you’re going to win, whatever. You have to smash someone’s face in. You have to really get physical. That’s what I want to see. Physicality. I want to see opposing players going off in stretchers. I want to see blood squirting out of their every orphus. Hold on a second, I’m not done. I’ve played in this league. I’ve won championships. I know what it takes. And I’m not seeing it out of this team. I’m seeing too many guys who just think this is some football league with rules. That’s not going to do it. You have to go out there and really try to murder someone. I mean literally. Take a shiv on the field if you have to. Some jive talking hip hoppper starts talking smack after play you gash him right in his throat with that thing. Who cares what the critics say. Get after it. This is football, man. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to ramble, go ahead, guys”
December 27th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
You can even remember what handle you think I am. Because you are a cross posting POS, guess it’s convenient to run the same take.
“he eventually caved”? You moron. that means he has no balls, and no authority. We all know that. Only an idiot, such as your meek self, would say he stood up to Al.
He had to ask for permission to bench Russell. Had to ask for permission to keep russell on bench. What hc in the league has been forbidden to even discuss injuries? Except Cable? Even the writers of this blog laugh at that absurdity. Zero head coaches would have left bey in, when he wasn’t close to being ready. Except Cable had no choice.
The list is long on Cable being a tool.
Your attention span, however, is much shorter.
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 1:02 pm
Richochet, no doubt Al’s calling the shots. But at least Cable tried to bench Campbell. In fact, he did, knowing he could get fired for it. He eventually caved. Out of the parade of buffoons that followed Gruden, only Lance has shown more balls than Cable when it comes to standing up to Al. The Raiders are at least back to the middle tier of the league now, sort of where they were for so many years in the late ’80s to late ’90s. Playing for a playoff spot in the final game, or second to final game, etc. I’ll take that over the cellar. In a perfect world, Al retires and hires a GM. And you know I will be as critical of him as anyone until he does. But until that day, I’ll take Cable’s improvement. The Raiders will probably stay this way under Cable…making it interesting right up to the end..either barely getting a wild card and getting eliminated in the first round, or just missing the playoffs. If we want to win a SB we have to do what the SB winning teams do, and we’re nowhere near it. Never will be again as long as Al’s here because nobody like Gruden would ever come here again, IMO. Not after that Kiffin fiasco.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Yeah…leave Corkran alone!
December 27th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Damn, sounds like I am missing out not getting to hear Romo’s takes on things!!
December 27th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Whatever Richochet. In looking for a fight you miss the point entirely. Whatever the case, Cable has taken this team much further than any coach since Gruden. And just how do you know Cable had permission to bench Campbell? Even during a game? How would you even know that? Cable has stood up to Al a lot more than previous coaches.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Trade Condo for a shiv and a jive-talking hip-hopper
December 27th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Players usually support their current coach (usually, because as we well lnow as long time Raider Fans, coaches such as Shanahan, Callahan, and a couple others lost respect from their players within the Raider organization).
Cable at the very least got the players to respect themselves, each other, and their coaching staff.
I still think we need a new head coach, Cable has been a successful coach for the Raiders whether he remains or not.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Romo as our Defense Coach? Marshall doesn’t have IT!
December 27th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Correction, because I know Richochet is going to look for any slip up he can to win an argument: Callahan has done better than Cable, obviously, taking the Raiders to a Super Bowl. What I should have said is that since 2003 Cable has shown more balls than any coach sans Kiffin. Any person with a brain would know what I meant in the first place. But we’re talking about Richochet here, so you have to make a little more effort to explain yourself.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
# I am Spartacus Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Sammy, you want a “tough” coach like Shanahan? What has Shanahan ever done without Elway. Even in their Superbowl years, they could not have won without two all-world years from Terrell Davis – a fluke 6th round find.
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I never mentioned Shanahan. And never confuse that cross posting POS maddenraider with me, if that’s what happened.
What I want is a head coach in charge. A HC who lives and breathes with his results. Someone everyone knows made the decision, including the players. Someone the players respect, and fear. Not someone who’s a token.
Where everyone can say “good decision” or “why the hell is bey still in”? Where the HC can actually step up and give a solid, no bs, answer.
Cable doesn’t. Cuz he can’t. He has no say on not just the decisions, but on what he can actually say.
think about that.
He has a gag order, from Al, on what, or what not he, OR the players, can say.
Example: Singletary made the decisions, right or wrong. His record is the result of his decisions. He just got fired, as he should have been.
Cable has an even worse record, and is still around, because many know he’s just a yes man anyway, and that Al’s calling the shots.
Yeah, be nice to have a head coach with balls, who’s in charge, instead of a token fat guy who is being told who to play, and what to say.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
We’re here with Bill Romanowski, the new defensive coordinator with the Oakland Raiders. As defensive coordinator, what scheme do you plan on bringing to the Raiders, Bill?
“Scheme? Sure, I have a scheme. And I’ve been drawing it up for 20 years now. It is quite intricate and nuanced, and I’m hoping I can sell it on the players. It’s called Smashing Your Opponents’ Face In. If you like, I can go over it with you right now.”
December 27th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Last time the players backed a coach it was Joe Bugel. SoFoookinWhat if the players like Cable? Of course they like him, he keeps expectations low, training camps easy and practices short….what’s not to like as a player? Other than winning of course, but let the fans worry about that.
Fact of the matter is if we had a decent NFL HC this season we would be at least 10-6 and in the playoffs.
Good coaches can get their teams to play consistently good football….
Fire the Buffoon and let’s move this franchise forward.
If the only other candidates for the job are Joe Bugel, Mike White, Art Shell and Rob Ryan….yes, then keep Cable, otherwise dump his ass and move forward with someone qualified for the job.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
Dakota Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
Last time the players backed a coach it was Joe Bugel. SoFoookinWhat if the players like Cable? Of course they like him, he keeps expectations low, training camps easy and practices short….what’s not to like as a player? ===================
give the man a ceeegar!!
I’ll say it again. What player, EVER, on any team, dissed the front office, or coaching staff who was CURRENTLY ON THE TEAM?
Not going to happen. The smart ones never do, knowing it very well could come back to bite them
December 27th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
re: Bugel?
I recall incident, not so funny then, where Tim Brown went public with how bad things were, how he took it upon himself to actualy call plays because of how sorry things were.
Bugel called a meeting where he told the players to keep all comments in house, that if you have something to say, say it here, now.
Apparently things got so testy, Bugel quickly cancelled the meeting, instead of listening to everyone harping on him, and his decisions.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
Kept the Broncos on the top tier of the league for nearly a decade after Elway left. I don’t like Shanarat any more than you do, but don’t embarrass yourself by calling Shannahan’s results into question while wearing a Raiders shirt.
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The facts don’t embarrass me. Shanhahan’s average record is a very pedestrian 9-7 over the past 11 years. Hardly good enough to make the playoffs in any year. If you want to make an argument to the contrary, that’s fine, but keep your editorializing to yourself. After all, you have left a treasure trove of imbecilic comments that can be used against you.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:35 pm
I’ll say it again. What player, EVER, on any team, dissed the front office, or coaching staff who was CURRENTLY ON THE TEAM?
Not going to happen. The smart ones never do, knowing it very well could come back to bite them
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Maybe not on the record. But when a coach has lost a team, reporters never have any trouble finding players willing to talk off the record. That doesn’t seem to be the case with Cable.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Raiders defensive coordinator Romanowski to face fines for punishing defensive players who fail to injure opponents
* NFL.com Wire Reports
* Published: Dec. 27, 2010 at 11:56 a.m.
* Updated: Dec. 27, 2010 at 02:46 p.m
Alameda, Ca-
The league will now fine Bill Romanowski for a policy he’s imposed in which he fines defensive players for any opposing offensive player who gets up, uninjured, after a tackle. The league has warned Romanowski several times since the preseason to stop the practice, only for Romanowski to deny the claims. The issue came to surface when several defensive players for the Raiders complained to the players’ association that they are going broke from the harsh fines. Romanowski was also fined in July, at the beginning of Raiders’ training camp, for destroying a stereo in the locker room and yelling several racial epithets.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81d3eb71/article/raiders-defensive-cordinator-fined
December 27th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
didn’t realize how young this team really is.
We get some continuity and another pre seaon things could be good next year.
http://www.raidernationstation.com/ones_to_watch
December 27th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Since we all know that Al calls the shots, who is out there that can, and will, try to run his own show? The answer is nobody. Therefore, Cable has proven to be the only guy since Gruden that can operate within those constraints.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Spartucus, Shanahan’s record very pedestrian? If it’s pedestrian, just how would you describe the Raiders’ record in the past 7 years?
December 27th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
52, For rizzle?
December 27th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
55. Abysmal
December 27th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
# SammyTheBull Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
What I want is a head coach in charge. A HC who lives and breathes with his results. Someone everyone knows made the decision, including the players. Someone the players respect, and fear.
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Sure. How about General Patton?
December 27th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
This is what Cable said around Dec 29th of last year:
“Without even asking that question, you know that we would have,” Cable told the reporter who asked him if the Raiders would have been in the playoffs with an average or above-average quarterback.
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Well Cable, you threw Jamarcus under the bus at the end of last year, and you got average QB play this year….and we still aren’t in the playoffs despite a CAKE schedule…..
In all likelihood we will still be in 3rd place in the division after next week.
Hue Jackson took over the offense and with one week still left we have scored 379 points! We only scored 197 ALL OF LAST YEAR….and yet with the increased scoring….AND the cake schedule….AND the average QB play, we still are not in the playoffs….AND probably still 3rd in our weak ass division!
We couldn’t beat one team that plays outside of the afc or nfc West!
Tom Cable….you are fired!
JUST WIN BABY!
December 27th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
I’m sure Brady’s “afraid” of Belichick, Sammy. Considering Brady can walk into Kraft’s office any time he wants to, say that either he goes or Belichick goes, and Belichick is gone…
December 27th, 2010 at 1:42 pm
Oops, did I just call him “Sammy”? I meant Richochet, obviously.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:47 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
Spartucus, Shanahan’s record very pedestrian? If it’s pedestrian, just how would you describe the Raiders’ record in the past 7 years?
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I would describe the Raiders’ record as abysmal. I would still characterize Shanahan’s record as pedestrian. For context, I would call Madden’s 10-year record as top tier.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
I’m sure Brady’s “afraid” of Belichick, Sammy. Considering Brady can walk into Kraft’s office any time he wants to, say that either he goes or Belichick goes, and Belichick is gone…
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Good call on that one, RMR.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
I vote ?
December 27th, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Cable’s a boob.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
So, like I said, you realize how ridiculous you look, as a Raider fan, having the gall to criticize Shannahan? 9-7 or not, he’s been good enough to keep the Broncos in contention for nearly a decade after Elway’s left. THAT is what he’s accomplished after Elway left. Plus, he did win 2 Super Bowls with Elway, to boot. Something that Dan Reeves couldn’t do. Shannahan just rubs people the wrong way. I’ve always hated him because he looks like George W. Bush. But you know and I know that the guy knows how to win in this league. And the only people who seem to think he doesn’t are kool aid drinking Davis loyalists who in denial of how bad their team has been…like you.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
I would describe the Raiders’ record as abysmal. I would still characterize Shanahan’s record as pedestrian. For context, I would call Madden’s 10-year record as top tier.
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With the exception of those 5 choked away conference championships of course…
December 27th, 2010 at 1:51 pm
This 2010 Raider team made strides. Left a lot of wins out there on the field. Young teams learn and grow from these types of situations. Read a great article on sfgate and MM34 was prettty adamant about this season. These Raiders really cared and wanted to turn this thing around. We finally have some game-breakers and need another strong draft to gain some more depth. As the Great Al Davis always says, “The Raiders will win”.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
So, like I said, you realize how ridiculous you look, as a Raider fan, having the gall to criticize Shannahan? 9-7 or not, he’s been good enough to keep the Broncos in contention for nearly a decade after Elway’s left. THAT is what he’s accomplished after Elway left. Plus, he did win 2 Super Bowls with Elway, to boot. Something that Dan Reeves couldn’t do. Shannahan just rubs people the wrong way. I’ve always hated him because he looks like George W. Bush. But you know and I know that the guy knows how to win in this league. And the only people who seem to think he doesn’t are kool aid drinking Davis loyalists who in denial of how bad their team has been…like you.
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We have a difference of opinion, RMR. How can I argue with someone who hates someone just because he looks like GWB? Anyways, I just paid you a compliment on one of your latter posts. So, no animus toward you from my side.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
“There have been 29 teams that gone unbeaten in their division since 1970. All of them have made it to the playoffs.”
Bill Williamson
December 27th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Can’t overlook him not being able to get the team ready to play teams out of their comfort zone. Most of the time they looked lost with teams outside the AFC West.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
“There have been 29 teams that gone unbeaten in their division since 1970. All of them have made it to the playoffs.”
Bill Williamson
Except Tom Cable’s team of course. He couldn’t coach them up or motivate them to even beat the lowly 49ers or Cardinals! Couldn’t coach them up when we really needed wins at home against Indy and Miami or on the road in Jax.
Tom Cable is not a good HC.
December 27th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
16-27!!!
Fire Cable!!
December 27th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
70.Dakota Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 1:56 pm
“There have been 29 teams that gone unbeaten in their division since 1970. All of them have made it to the playoffs.”
Bill Williamson
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Johnson said he even heard a rumor the league would make a rule change of some sort to reward teams that went unbeaten in division play but didn’t make the playoffs.
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The NFL is gonna bend the rules for the RAIDERS!! LOL
December 27th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Cable or Not, who is the Raiders next QB? That’s all I give a damn about…
December 27th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
75.Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
Cable or Not, who is the Raiders next QB? That’s all I give a damn about…
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Jim Plunkett
December 27th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Shannahan looking like GWB was tongue in cheek. I don’t even now what Shannahan’s politics are. Basically, I think the guy’s a good coach. And I thought he looked like a jerk before I even knew who G.W. Bush was.
Spartacus, we’ve only had one coach even close to being as good as Shannahan in the past 20 years, Jon Gruden. None of your skewed numbers are going to change that.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Dude, seriously? It would be an upgrade…how sad is that?
December 27th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Until Al and the Raiders change how they operate/conduct football business, Tom Cable is the best you are going to get.
So if you don’t like Cable, call for Al’s dismissal. Since Al’s the owner good luck with that.
Until then, Cable is doing a fine job under the circumstances. Finding someone AWESOME who wants to work under Al and his MO is FANTASY.
He has introduced some accountability, has the players playing hard, and has them moving in the right direction. Perhaps Al will find a QB to have Hue groom since Al and Tom don’t really seem too good at that and that is the largest missing piece.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Very sad, lol….and old azz Flores would be an upgrade at HC too….that is even more sad….
December 27th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Our schemes are not good enough on defense. We looked unprepared and manning had little difficulty exposing our weaknesses.
why we got away from the run I will never know. And when we did we ran right at their strengths on the outside. Campbell, either because he can’t get the ball out fast enough or by design, is like a ststue back there. he made some terrible throws and equally bad decisions with the ball.
My solution is a real GM, a new QB and yes, a new head coach. Sorry Tom. I kinda liked you but that just aint cutting the mustard.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
I will be pi$$ed if we keep Marshall. Keeping Cable would be a mistake too IMHO, but not as big as keeping Marshall.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
Several times campbell could have run when he instead tried to force a ball to a covered receiver. he is a good back up but what this team needs is someone like manning, and we all know that will never happen.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:13 pm
5 minutes ago – Team president Jed York reiterated that whoever he hires as general manager will be responsible for hiring the team’s next head coach. “It’s about making sure the GM and the head coach are really working together and he’s going to be the person living and dying with the coach,” he said. 49ers RapidReports
that is the way it should be…..
December 27th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Shannahan looking like GWB was tongue in cheek. I don’t even now what Shannahan’s politics are. Basically, I think the guy’s a good coach. And I thought he looked like a jerk before I even knew who G.W. Bush was.
Spartacus, we’ve only had one coach even close to being as good as Shannahan in the past 20 years, Jon Gruden. None of your skewed numbers are going to change that.
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Fine. You think Shanahan’s a good coach, I think he’s overrated. He and Cable have to operate in parallel universes. Shanahan wasn’t so great when he had to work under Al Davis.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Dakota – that is the way it should be but we all know that will never be the case here as long Al Davis is in charge… I am not an Al basher, because he is the oakland raiders imo, but when will he wise up and look in the mirror? If I were one of the minority owners of this team I would be fricking pissed.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Dec. 27, 2010 3:51 p.m. – Starting left guard Robert Gallery, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2004 draft, will be a free agent after this season. “This is the first time going to free agency for me so I don’t know what the process is like,” he said. “I’m not really worried about it. We’ll see what happens.” Raiders RapidReports
Dec. 27, 2010 3:47 p.m. – OLB Quentin Groves on Sunday’s season-finale against the Chiefs: “It’s huge because we have to impose our will on somebody else. This is our playoff game.” Raiders RapidReports
Dec. 27, 2010 3:46 p.m. – The Raiders are out of the playoff race but can still set some records – for penalty yardage. They lead the NFL with 1,199 penalty yards. They’re 105 shy of tying the NFL record of 1,304 yards set by K.C. in ‘98 and 75 short of tying the team mark of 1,274 set in ‘69 in just 14 games. Raiders RapidReports
Dec. 27, 2010 3:26 p.m. – OLB Quentin Groves said the Raiders are “on the threshhold of being a great team” in the NFL. “I think we’re really close,” he said. “You look at the San Fran game; you look at the Arizona game. We could have easily had two wins right there.” Raiders RapidReports
Dec. 27, 2010 3:22 p.m. – P Shane Lechler called Tom Cable the “hard-nosed, blue-collar guy that we need” as Raiders coach. “You can’t have a flashy guy come in,” Lechler said. “I’ve heard it too many times. Every coach comes in, ‘Oh, I’m going to fix this.’ Bull. You can’t say that every time because people start calling your bluff.” Raiders RapidReports
Dec. 27, 2010 3:11 p.m. – P Shane Lechler said it would be a “huge setback” if team owner Al Davis didn’t bring back coach Tom Cable next season. “We’ve invested so much of our time, and there’s been so much commitment, starting from the day he took over. He had a plan. The plan is working.” Raiders RapidReports
Dec. 27, 2010 3:08 p.m. – TE Zach Miller on the importance of beating the Chiefs this week: “Our goal was to make the playoffs. That’s over, so now we have to look to do whatever we can do, and that’s be 6-0 in the division and finish 8-8. We’re going to do whatever we can to make that happen.” Raiders RapidReports
Dec. 27, 2010 3:04 p.m. – After being eliminated from playoff contention Sunday, the Raiders have readjusted their goals approaching their season finale at K.C. At 7-8 overall and 5-0 in the AFC West, they have a chance to avoid a losing record for the first time since ‘02 and sweep the division for the first time since ’76. Raiders RapidReports
December 27th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Does anyone else wonder if RMR sweats every time congress is voting whether to extend unemployment benefits?
Dude – you post a lot!!!
Or you are Jerry.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
The Raiders record has indeed been abysmal. This year is as risen to average. This year’s Raiders have improved drastically. The inconsistencies in performance are of concern with Cable as HC, but Cable, with some veteran help, has built confidence in this young team. It’s probably his greatest contribution. Cable stays for another year. Improve the offensive line, add a go-to WR, some strong cover help at DB, defensive line depth, consistent game plans on both O and D… Another year’s experience, and these guys go deep into the playoffs.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:19 pm
We are 29th against the run!
Fire Marshall!!!
Hire a DC that can fix this problem!!!
December 27th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
What about Singletary for DC?
December 27th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
86.No Mas Diamante Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Dakota – that is the way it should be but we all know that will never be the case here as long Al Davis is in charge… I am not an Al basher, because he is the oakland raiders imo, but when will he wise up and look in the mirror? If I were one of the minority owners of this team I would be fricking pissed.
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He will never wise up….I’ve said it before, Al Davis would rather drag the team to hell with him than see another man step in and have success as the Raiders GM while Al is still alive. It would kill Al to see someone succeed with his team when he could not.
I would probably be the same way if I owned the team, so I can understand why he is doing it…..but as a fan it kills me.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Sorry to break the news to you 89706Raider, but a Cable coached team will NEVER go deep into any playoff…not even his future UFL team.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:24 pm
Hate to say it, but if Cable stays as Head Coach, Hue
Jackson probably leaves for HC job somewhere else. Then what????
December 27th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
I’ve been sitting in my seats for 10 years. The run stopping D looked a lot better many times this year than it had in years past. However for the first time in a long time, we played with a lead a lot more (thus forcing teams to pass).
We continue to have tackling problems (a byproduct of fact that there are few live drills during training camp).
Michael Huff is not the answer at Free Safety – he plays too vertical. Tyvon may lead the team in tackles, but he still misses a lot.
Rule of thumb – DTs miss a tackle – 6inches. line backers miss a tackle – 6 yards. DBs miss a tackles – six points.
John Marshall actually did safety blitzes,leveraged his best asset (Kelly and Seymour in the middle), and uses to DTs as outside line backers.
As a defensive coordinator, you have to cook the meal, but you have no input on the ingredients.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:27 pm
Dec. 27, 2010 3:51 p.m. – Starting left guard Robert Gallery, the No. 2 overall pick in the 2004 draft, will be a free agent after this season. “This is the first time going to free agency for me so I don’t know what the process is like,” he said. “I’m not really worried about it. We’ll see what happens.” Raiders RapidReports
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Here is the process Gallery….your agent calls a few teams and those teams offer you what they think you are worth as a average to below average NFL guard, and then you tuck tail and stick your hand out to Al Davis once again and hopes he still wants to keep another of his high draft picks on the roster for a couple more years.
Just be glad that the C and right side of the line are even worse than you Bobby boy.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Three very poorly called games will probably ensure that Hue doesn’t get a head coaching job.
He’ll get Rooney rule interviews, but he probably won’t get any HC jobs unless we are missing something (and I don’t think we are).
December 27th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Hey Dakota… thanks for the heads-up. I’ll try to remember that, but you are short changing the guy.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Sec144r18 Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Three very poorly called games will probably ensure that Hue doesn’t get a head coaching job.
He’ll get Rooney rule interviews, but he probably won’t get any HC jobs unless we are missing something (and I don’t think we are).
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I don’t know about that. Ex-Raider coaches usually get the benefit of the doubt, for working for a nutty organization.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:38 pm
Met a guy that went to school in Idaho…said Cable was a complete joke on campus during his time as their HC. Worst coach in school history. First HC at Idaho that had to be fired in 20+ years.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
As long as I’m writing – let’s do a report card on different groups on our team to see who grades out well, and who doesn’t.
Let’s start with a bright spot on the team: Running Back.
Darren McFadden – A
No question about it – those tantalizing morsels from training camp where delusional – this year we learned they were the truth – and so is Darren.
Michael Bush – B
He came into camp #1 on the depth chart, then saw his status drop when he was injured during preseason. Nonetheless he continued to show the inside toughness that made him popular with us over the last couple of years.
Marcel Reese – B-/C+
His unique receiving capabilities give him the potential to redefine the fullback position in the NFL. Unfortunately receiving is not all that a fullback does. He needs to work on his blocking skills.
Rock Cartright – B+ Didn’t get a lot of play because of Bush and McFadden, but showed that he is an intense special teams asset.
Michael Bennett – not enough info to grade.
Whaddayaall think?
December 27th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
This year was a wasted opportunity to pad a record. Weak schedule should have produced at least a 10-6 record. Next year we play the NFC central and others. Imagine Campbells eyes when he see Suh coming at him. I’ve always wanted to see a QB sh*t in his pants on the field.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Jason Garrett for HC
December 27th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Add on to #100. The 3 coaches following Cable at Idaho had success and went on to bigger programs.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Cable & Jackson aren’t on the same page, imo. Of course that’s the way Davis set it up.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Jason Garrett for HC…and he can bring Kitna with him to push Campbell…at least for 1 year.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Jason Garrett for HC
Gary Kubiak for OC
Mike Singletary for DC
This would never happen though.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Yeah at first glance 16-27 is nothing to cheer about but considering where we were and where we are 16-27 aint bad. It pains me to say this but we were truly the worst team in the league and the way we lost some of those games was a complete joke. We have had to start from the very bottom and work our way back to respectability and I think we’ve done that. We are no longer a laughingstock organization. I believe we are on the right track to playing championship RAIDER FOOTBALL and we need to have some continuity going into next year. I know everyone’s first instinct after missing the playoffs is that this was an unsuccessful season and we need to fire everyone and start over but let’s give this team another year and see what happens. If next year we don’t improve our win total then I’m all for changes but let’s ride this one a little bit longer……
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 27th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
11 Carries for McFadden
3 carries for Bush
42 Pass attempts for J Campbell.
Does that look like a winning formula to anybody?
December 27th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
Didn’t Mike Trgovac run a 4-3 defense under John Fox? I think he is now the d-line coach with the Packers, who run a 3-4, but I think he might be a decent guy to look at for a 4-3 DC when Marshall is fired.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
11 Carries for McFadden
3 carries for Bush
42 Pass attempts for J Campbell.
Hue Jackson think’s that is a winning formula, Really?
December 27th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
108.raidermarty Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Yeah at first glance 16-27 is nothing to cheer about but considering where we were and where we are 16-27 aint bad. It pains me to say this but we were truly the worst team in the league and the way we lost some of those games was a complete joke. We have had to start from the very bottom and work our way back to respectability and I think we’ve done that. We are no longer a laughingstock organization. I believe we are on the right track to playing championship RAIDER FOOTBALL and we need to have some continuity going into next year. I know everyone’s first instinct after missing the playoffs is that this was an unsuccessful season and we need to fire everyone and start over but let’s give this team another year and see what happens. If next year we don’t improve our win total then I’m all for changes but let’s ride this one a little bit longer……
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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No thanks….just because some people need to be repeatedly hit in the face before they finally understand they should move doesn’t mean we are all that ignorant. Cable is a joke. He is completely unqualified to be an NFL HC. He has no ability to manage this team to consistent play. This year he took the team to maybe 8-8 despite getting 10+ more points per game thanks to Hue Jackson and playing 10 of 16 games against the putrid AFC and NFC West divisions. This year is about the maximum we can expect out of a guy like Tom Cable….we are going nowhere with him, and the sooner we figure that out, the better.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Raider75 Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Jason Garrett for HC
Gary Kubiak for OC
Mike Singletary for DC
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I’d take Garrett in a heartbeat but not Kubiak and definately not Singletary. Not an x’s and o’s guy. Had his motivational skills suck. Right Troy!
December 27th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Right now the Raiders are only 2 games better than what we are used to.
I’m not satisfied with this coaching staff.
No ball control passing game. No defense against the run.
McFadden saved this season, period.
December 27th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
I am out.
FIRE CABLE!!!!!
December 27th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
why all the doom and gloom? we have had a very successful season.. we have many things in place for next year.
cable isn’t going anywhere! why would we want to start again?
aren’t the colts a super bowl team? did you really think we should have dominated them? manning is a hall of fame quarter-back, one of the best of all time, if not the best! did you expect our db’s to shut him down?
now we know big richard seymour is the ish!! and j henderson is too, but m henderson is not. he made langston look good yesterday.
we need to enforce both lines. find a free safety who can cover and tackle. i like what huff has done he just doesnt instill any fear in receivers.
December 27th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
If you don’t give Shanarat credit for the 2 SB’s because he had Elway than you can say that about any great coach.
If Phil Jackson didn’t have Jordan and Kobe, he wouldn’t have had anything, so he sucks.
If Green Bay didn’t have Favre than they wouldn’t have won their SB so Holmgren sucks.
If New England didn’t have Brady they wouldn’t have won anything either. Hence, Belichek sucks too.
December 27th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
What’s the goal here with the Raiders? Make sure the players are happy with their “inspirational’ coach who teaches them it’s okay to lose as long as you try hard?
Dallas in the mid 90’s won three Super Bowls because they had a ton of talent AND they “were afraid to lose” because Jimmy Johnson would ‘make their lives miserable” when they did.
I want the Raider players to be “happy” as much as the next guy, but I’d rather they go out and win a Super Bowl instead.
That Dallas team of the mid 90’s hated Jimmy Johnson at the time but now they respect and admire him.
December 27th, 2010 at 6:44 pm
If you don’t give Shanarat credit for the 2 SB’s because he had Elway than you can say that about any great coach.
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How about when they cheated the salary cap by $95 million to “buy” 2 SBs?
December 28th, 2010 at 7:37 am
Im late with this, but wondering what Dakota’s solution to winning is?? Its apparent that he doesnt want Cable, but who would YOU bring in? Better yet, who would you bring in that would actually COME for an interview? Cable gives us the best chance of winning next year (given the wacky Raiders management structure), PERIOD!!
Again, curious as to what your solution is??
December 28th, 2010 at 7:44 am
We need A QB, that’s the heart & soul of where your leadership is. AL, RAIDER FRONT OFFICE we need to get CARSON PALMER back home to CALIFORNIA. He is a proven veteran and no wimp! That would be the best vet Qb signing since Plunk & Gannon, this has been the problem for too looong! We spend gazillions for other position players but not for QB??? Carson would revive this Organization local kid too, get rid of Cantball, AKA as Campgirll, next years Qb’s should be Palmer, Fry, & bring back Brennan to develop him. Use draft for OL!