Seymour, Asomugha, Lechler make Pro Bowl
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, December 28th, 2010 at 4:02 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and punter Shane Lechler were the Raiders’ selections to the Pro Bowl Tuesday.
Seymour, who was at his most dominant earlier this season, is a reserve interior lineman with Baltimore’s Haloti Ngata and New England’s Vince Wilfork as the starters.
Asomugha is a starter at cornerback along with the Jets’ Darrelle Revis, with New England rookie Devin McCourty the third corner.
Running back Darren McFadden did not crack the top three running backs, with Jacksonville’s Maurice Jones-Drew (the starter), Houston’s Arian Foster and Kansas City’s Jamaal Charles getting the nod.
Place kicker Sebastian Janikowski, who set a Raiders scoring record with 135 points, lost out to Baltimore’s Billy Cundiff.
The Raiders announced that defensive tackle Tommy Kelly, tight end Zach Miller, McFadden and Janikowski were named as alternates, although it was not divulged at what level. All would have a chance to go to be added to the team if someone drops out because of injury.
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December 28th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Kool, baby!
December 28th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Reputations.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:07 pm
This year Kelly>Seymour
Ford should have made it for SPc teams
Surprised janoKOWski didnt make it…high points and rep/name recog…must have been the AZ unclutch kick!
December 28th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
KK,
Art Shell was hired February 11, 2006.
And we all know that Al could care less about the media and making sure they are updated, but I think Cable new his job was safe the entire time.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
No Condo??
Blasphemy!!!!!
December 28th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
More proof it’s who you are,not what you do.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:10 pm
Reflecting on another loss…………
http://bit.ly/ffmhvI
December 28th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
1st
December 28th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
DMC still has a shot if one Charles gets banged up in the playoffs. Seymore was well deserved. Kelly benefited from Seymore’s domination. Ford was hosed
December 28th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Who made it as a kr ahead of Ford?
December 28th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Seymour, Asomugha, Lechler make Pro Bowl
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Alternate headline:
“3 Raiders to Participate in a Meaningless Exhibition Game that Nobody Cares About”
December 28th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
seriously f7cked up that SeaBass was hosed. yeah he stunk against AZ, cost the Raiders a chance at a playoff berth, but other than that led the league in points.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
“3 Raiders to Participate in a Meaningless Exhibition Game that Nobody Cares About”
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I think Pro bowls = Bucks.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
Marc Mariani ahead of ford bs!
December 28th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Jacoby Ford got hosed. Some scrub from Tenn. is the KR..
December 28th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
a couple of years ago the Cowturds had 13 (13!!!!!) effing probowlers on a squad that did zero in the playoffs. who votes for these things? (fans=homers, writers=agendas, coaches=save their a#ses, players=possibly honest but who do they hate or who did they play against or what did others tell them.)
December 28th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
McFadden deserved it, so did Ford.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
A report in San Francisco Tuesday indicated York has Jim Harbaugh and Jon Gruden atop his wishlist of coaches, although York said the team’s general manager will choose the coach.
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It would be a shame if Al lets the Niners scoop Harbaugh.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Jacoby Ford
Kickoff Returns
KR Yds Avg Long TD
51 1244 24.4 101 3
Marc Mariani
Kickoff Returns
KR Yds Avg Long TD
56 1411 25.2 98 1
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Mariani had a better season early on, Ford finished strong.
Gimmie Ford, all day
December 28th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
It’s a great evening to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
The Raiders have the right man for the job, for this time in their history. Harbaugh MAY be a great NFL coach, but he isn’t one right now…and the players have already expressed their feelings to the core, with zero ambiguity.
Cable’s the man the players THINK they need to keep the ball rolling up that big ol’ hill. We’re so close to being a Playoff team, they can taste it. If the players REALLY believe it, I gotta believe it too.
There’s no reason to disassemble this coaching staff, especially based on who MIGHT be available to replace them at the top. This isn’t to say there isn’t room for improvement on all staffs…but Cable and his O/D-Coordinators need to stay right where they are.
If Harbaugh’s ready for an NFL HC job, it shouldn’t be for one in Oakland in 2011.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Mariani, ex-Griz yay.
Ford, better returner yay.
Raider75,
Harbaugh God? Harbaugh McDaniels? We’ll see.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
The Raiders have the right man for the job, for this time in their history. Harbaugh MAY be a great NFL coach, but he isn’t one right now…and the players have already expressed their feelings to the core, with zero ambiguity.
Cable’s the man the players THINK they need to keep the ball rolling up that big ol’ hill. We’re so close to being a Playoff team, they can taste it. If the players REALLY believe it, I gotta believe it too.
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Don’t let the players twist in the wind wondering. Keep that good vibe going right into the off-season without delay.
December 28th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Darren McFadden
G Rsh Yds Y/G Avg TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC TD
13 223 1157 89.0 5.2 7 47 507 39.0 10.8 67 11.9 3
Maurice Jones-Drew
G Rsh Yds Y/G Avg TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC TD
14 299 1324 94.6 4.4 5 34 317 22.6 9.3 75 9.6 2
Jamaal Charles
G Rsh Yds Y/G Avg TD Rec Yds Y/G Avg Lng YAC TD
15 216 1380 92.0 6.4 4 43 455 30.3 10.6 31 9.9 3
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Not an easy race to call. All of these guys had All Pro seasons. My impartial vote goes for DMac though
December 28th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
A report in San Francisco Tuesday indicated York has Jim Harbaugh and Jon Gruden atop his wishlist of coaches, although York said the team’s general manager will choose the coach.
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It would be a shame if Al lets the Niners scoop Harbaugh.
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The real shame is that the drooling, brain-dead old beeotch forced Gruden to leave.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
No thanks to the Gruden thing (again)…he leaves rough wakes. Despite the despair of missing the Playoffs, this ship is sailing smoothly with Cable at the helm.
And, admit it…you drool sometimes, too. A little too much Jack & Coke, maybe? Boxers around your ankles, face-down in the neighbor’s petunias?
December 28th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Jon Gruden and Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh are atop York’s wish list for a potential coach.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Promote Hue to HC
Bring in an OC/OL coach that runs the system Hue likes instead of that ZBS BS.
I have to imagine Hue will be a better play caller in his 2nd year.
Bring in an Asst HC/DC!
December 28th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Great year to be a Raider fan! A coaching change would be a setback – Monte Poole – put your spoon away – this years Raiders are young, exiting and worth every penny I paid for my tickets – I went to every home game this year feeling that the Raiders can win.Didn’t feel that way last year.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Owner Dean Spanos confirmed Monday night that Norv Turner will return as the Chargers’ head coach in 2011.
Best NEWS I’ve heard all day!!!
December 28th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
New STs coach and new DC is a MUST!!!!!!!
December 28th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
AJ Smith: You’ve been NORVED!!!
December 28th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
Hue won’t be a better play caller as HC than he is as Coordinator. He needs to ripen as a coach yet — enthusiasm isn’t the only requisite for inspiring men.
Imagine this team starting 1-3 under another HC next year. Disaster for the team, the players, the new coach. Instead of starting fresh…with Cable, we now have an EXPECTATION of being a winner in 2011. And that’s even with the inconsistent play at QB and WR we have.
We no longer have a hope of “turning the corner”…we have an expectation of winning again. That’s a pretty good feeling.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
You guys post like new coaches makes a huge difference at 1220 HarborBay Parkway. Al picks the coaches from the HC, Coords, on down. Al picks the roster, Al does the drafting, and Al determines the schemes to a large extent. Often it appears Al determines who plays.
So a coach is going to make a huge difference? Bullcracky.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:25 pm
IF Luck stays at Stanford, so does Harbaugh..imo
December 28th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Some of you guys are way too happy for a 3 game swing(or 2 games if Oakland loses this week).
5-11 to 7-9 is not much different to me.
Too many missed opportunities, penalty yards, and points given up for my taste.
Without McFadden and Ford, this team was the same ol’ sh!t.
The schedule was weak. 12 games against teams at or below .500 (KC twice, Steelers, and Colts only games against winning teams)
THAT IS NOT IMPROVEMENT!
Time for Cable to go away.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
with Cable, we now have an EXPECTATION of being a winner in 2011.
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According to who?
If we go into next year as is, I’d disagree as would most.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Marshall had a rough few games, but still has this Defense playing at a higher level than they have in many years. The more we get to know these young players, the more we’ll see Marshall get creative with his schemes in future.
The Defense’s shortcomings this year, including the play-calling, aren’t worthy of Marshall losing his job…but, I’m sure he’ll be getting/has gotten a friendly hello from the Old Man about it.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
What about DHB? Travesty!
December 28th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Yes, good ol’ Mr. Davis. A guy who’s ego is so inflated that he couldn’t deal with a coach who turned his moribund franchise around actually getting credit and recognition. Sacrebleu! And, how about that classy move of cussing Jon out in front of his own father. Yep, that’s our lovable Al. I’m glad you like Cable, though. Cuz he’s a goner. P.S. Yes, I am currently drooling with my pants down That’s only because I’m watching porn…at work, but that’s beside the point.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
As mentioned above…there are now plenty of people who walk into the stadium and expect the team to win (or at least battle to the bitter end). And the players do, too. Denying there is a huge difference in the 2010 Raiders and the 2009 Raiders is taking a narrow view of things.
Major change can never happen if the players don’t buy-in…and the Raiders players have bought what Cable’s selling. They had their chances this year, but next year is really theirs for the taking…and they finally, truly, realize it.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
# Raider75 Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
A report in San Francisco Tuesday indicated York has Jim Harbaugh and Jon Gruden atop his wishlist of coaches, although York said the team’s general manager will choose the coach.
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It would be a shame if Al lets the Niners scoop Harbaugh.
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That’s the ‘Wish List’ – it ain’t gonna happen. Niners still think after all these years of being pathetic they have one of the premier franchise’s and top tier coaches want to come there – they haven’t been even close to premier since the mid-nineties and even then it was the tail end of their glory days – when Policy was kicked out it was over. Their ownership is more screwed up than ours even.
They won’t get an A-lister. Harbaugh, if he wants to leave Stanford which I doubt, can have any job in the league if he wants – why would he want to go to the Niners? They might get a tier-2 retread or an up and comer – I’m sure HueJack has already thrown his name in the pot.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Cable is a below nfl caliber coach..lack of discipline and consistency is his legacy here and in Idaho..garbage
December 28th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
29. Awesome!! Now we know the Chargers won’t be in the SB anytime soon.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Gruden’s a great flash-in-the-pan…might be perfect for the Niners.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Hasn’t it been 8 years since we’ve had an offensive player in the probowl?
December 28th, 2010 at 5:52 pm
New STs coach
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Really have the ST been that bad?
We got 3 TD’s on returns, only given up 1.
Recovered 4 fumbles, only lost two.
Than you have the SD two blocked punts game and also our kicker leads the AFC in points and our punter made the Pro Bowl to boot.
Yes, punt returns have been bad, the Jacoby fumble killed us, and we have given up the occasional big return like every team.
But there is no doubt, IMO, we won the ST battle against our opponents for the year. Not ever week, but for the year.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:54 pm
162.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Hire some dude named Brian VanGorder!!!!
That D-line they have is nuts though. I especially like Abraham and his prison scalp tatoo’s.
We need guys on the D-line with tattoos on their temple!!!
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Better yet, we need guys with a big gap in their two front teeth and one tooth is Gold.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
What discipline is lacking in Oakland? Are there players out of control? Last I heard, everybody was in-line for the first time in years. And…consistency starts by having a consistent coaching staff.
The players want Cable to stay. Want to ruin a locker room in a hurry? Toss their stated overwhelming favorite for an unknown (or known) coaching commodity. Coaching is about getting your team to respond…and Cable has this team responding.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
# Raider75 Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Some of you guys are way too happy for a 3 game swing(or 2 games if Oakland loses this week).
5-11 to 7-9 is not much different to me.
Too many missed opportunities, penalty yards, and points given up for my taste.
Without McFadden and Ford, this team was the same ol’ sh!t.
The schedule was weak. 12 games against teams at or below .500 (KC twice, Steelers, and Colts only games against winning teams)
THAT IS NOT IMPROVEMENT!
Time for Cable to go away.
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Sorry. Could be 9 games against teams at or below .500
SD could still finish 9-7, and so could the Jags.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
I can’t remember…what was the reason Ford did not play in the beginning of the season?
December 28th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Looking back on the year, I will give credit to Jason Campbell definately in one area. He is the king at finding the 5 yard pass that will end up getting 25+ yards. He does deserve credit for that.
If there is a 5 yard pass that could get big yards, Campbell is the man for the job.
December 28th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I Agree Hayes.
Anyone who posts here saying 2009 ~the feel of 2010 is on craq…lots of it…
I think its like saying Gruden’s (TWO) 8-8 years were only a little better than that 1997 Bugel year.
NIGHT and DAY then and now.
2011 is the year fellas.
That said it wont be if we do zer0.0. We MUST at least address the following come January 3.
0. Continuity. Keep Cable and Hue. Marshall? Maybe not. Would love a TOUGH DC that refuses to pander to the old man. Ok, I’l settle for a toughER DC with at least SOME latitude beyond what Marshall has.
1. Look to upgrade the QB. Campbell and or Grads can battle it out for backup. I’d prefer a vet but not sure if one exits. I’d like to see Palmner given a fresh start here. Esp with our gr8 running game.
2. GET C. BAILEY. This lone would help our D (incl run D) enormously. C.B. is still very capable shut down corner.
3. Sign Steve Smith or some other solid WR vet.
4. Last but not least consider hiring a DC with 3-4 experience. FIX THE RUN D ALREADY! Add a Henderson-esque NT and a run stufffer ILB (draft and/or Free Agency)
Do these 5 things and I think we have a shot at being an elite team. For real.
December 28th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
DMAC had a Pro Bowl season, but 7 of the NFL’s top rushers were from the AFC, including the league’s top 4 rushers.
The two missed games kept his rushing TOTALS below the others, but his total scrimmage yards (4th), scrimmage yards per game (2nd), and average rushing yards per game (4th) scream Pro Bowl. His 5.2 ypc were 3rd best among backs with a minimum of 100 carries and a minimum of 10.0 rushes per game. First in carries of 20-plus-yards, 1st in carries of 30-plus yards, 2nd in carries of 40-plus-yards, and his 6 100-yard rushing games were 5th best in the league.
He was the league’s only RB with a 4 TD game (Week 7 at Denver), he was AFC Offenisve PLayer of the Week (Week 7), and his outburst in Jacksonville made him one of only 3 players since 1950 with 2 rushing TDs of at least 35 yards each PLUS 1 receiving TD of at least 60 yards in a single game.
It also hurt DMAC that his TD numbers were not on par with guys like CJ, Hillis and Foster, and his TD numbers would have been better than all of the NFL’s rushers, save maybe for Foster, if not for the Bush-inside-the-10-love-affair.
Hard to argue with the selections of Foster, MJD, and Charles, though. Honestly, I think DMAC was a better, more productive back than anyone in the NFL except for Foster.
Example: Going into the Tuesday night matchup between Minnesota and Philadelphia, DMAC and Adrian Peterson had both played in 13 games on the season. DMAC led in every statistical category except for TDs (12 to 10) and 1st downs. Total rushing yards, rushing yards per game, receiving yards, total scrimmage yards, scrimmage yards per game, yards per carry, 20-, 30-, and 40-plus-yard runs — all of these categories saw DMAC over the NFL’s top fan-vote-getting RB.
Oh well, I hope DMAC makes a statement while I’m watching in person in KC on Sunday!
December 28th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
50.r8eray Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
I can’t remember…what was the reason Ford did not play in the beginning of the season?
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Yamon Figurs
December 28th, 2010 at 6:05 pm
TRF — Not a bad list, for starters…except, I wouldn’t touch that old CB from Denver with a 10′ pole next season.
Dinner time.
Yes…it’s a great night to be a Raiders fan. Still. Isn’t it?
December 28th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
# tuckrulefool Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
I Agree Hayes.
Anyone who posts here saying 2009 ~the feel of 2010 is on craq…lots of it…
I think its like saying Gruden’s (TWO) 8-8 years were only a little better than that 1997 Bugel year.
NIGHT and DAY then and now.
2011 is the year fellas.
That said it wont be if we do zer0.0. We MUST at least address the following come January 3.
0. Continuity. Keep Cable and Hue. Marshall? Maybe not. Would love a TOUGH DC that refuses to pander to the old man. Ok, I’l settle for a toughER DC with at least SOME latitude beyond what Marshall has.
1. Look to upgrade the QB. Campbell and or Grads can battle it out for backup. I’d prefer a vet but not sure if one exits. I’d like to see Palmner given a fresh start here. Esp with our gr8 running game.
2. GET C. BAILEY. This lone would help our D (incl run D) enormously. C.B. is still very capable shut down corner.
3. Sign Steve Smith or some other solid WR vet.
4. Last but not least consider hiring a DC with 3-4 experience. FIX THE RUN D ALREADY! Add a Henderson-esque NT and a run stufffer ILB (draft and/or Free Agency)
Do these 5 things and I think we have a shot at being an elite team. For real.
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Did the Steelers game feel different? How about Miami, Titans, or Texans?
Did all those FGs feel different against the Colts?
The 2 wins against a 4-11 Broncos squad is all that stands between where we are now and another 5-11 season.
The Raiders lost to 5-10 Cardinals, 5-10 Texans, and 5-10 Niners.
Forgive me, but I am not jumping for joy.
December 28th, 2010 at 6:11 pm
J Hill Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 6:04 pm
50.r8eray Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
I can’t remember…what was the reason Ford did not play in the beginning of the season?
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Yamon Figurs
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Oh Yeah..mon!
December 28th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
You know what’s funny… how is it that we see talent during preseason (Ford) and it takes our coaches half way through the season to notice?
IMO..Ford would have been Rookie of the year and made the probowl if he would’ve started from day one!
December 28th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
I’m STILL wondering why Ford isn’t returning punts.
December 28th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
R8eray Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
You know what’s funny… how is it that we see talent during preseason (Ford) and it takes our coaches half way through the season to notice?
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Yep. Higher paid players play, here, period. Until Al Davis’ hand is forced.
Why do you think Kwame Harris played so long, here?
December 28th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
Raider75,
So we should have gone 16-0 nd then its a better feel?
Come on man I didnt say perfect.
I am saying RELATIVE to the UTTERLY HOPELESS 2009…and 2008 and 2007….
Its also why listed 5 things we MUST do to get to the next level.
Clearly we are not ready for the likes of Pitt and Indy.
SF and AZ were early year and this team was gelling (and Campbell was still L-O-S-T). Miami was much more disturbing since it showed our really bad tendency for inconsistency.
To me THATS the biggest potential knock on Cable. He gets the team fired up when we have our back up against the wall (SD1 SD2) or when we are completely dissed by the media. When its tight or we are supposed to win? Not nearly as good. In his defense we are a VERY young team so hopefully they get it now…finally…2011 offers no excuses though that’s for sure
December 28th, 2010 at 6:24 pm
Scholarships, Pet’s, Favorites of Mr Davis’
December 28th, 2010 at 6:26 pm
I think Cable said “the ball turns differently from a punt to a kickoff”, maybe next year?
Ford is a dynamic player, he needs to get the ball more often!
Have him return kickoffs, punts, WR shoot….have him play RB too!lol..
December 28th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Clearly we are not ready for the likes of Pitt and Indy.
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Imo, we could have beat Indy.
Dmac 11 carries, Bush 3. Jason Campbell 42 attempts.
Somebody decided to go backwards.
December 28th, 2010 at 6:28 pm
We need a new DC and ST coach.
Our defense improved mainly because we brought in guys with chips on their shoulders. J Henderson, K Wimbley, Q Groves, L Houston, and ROMAC.
Our Special Teams: Rock Cartright and Jacoby Ford.
December 28th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Imo, we could have beat Indy.
Dmac 11 carries, Bush 3. Jason Campbell 42 attempts.
Somebody decided to go backwards. Sid Gillman Football, baby!
December 28th, 2010 at 6:30 pm
Live by the Vick, die by the Vick.
lol… 7-7 against the Vikings.
December 28th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
The main thing I don’t like about Cable is his game adjustments.
He makes them on Monday instead of Sunday.
Other than that he’s a beast for us.
December 28th, 2010 at 6:35 pm
Mike Vick MVP?
Child please. They might lose to the Packers in the first round.
December 28th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
R8eray Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
You know what’s funny… how is it that we see talent during preseason (Ford) and it takes our coaches half way through the season to notice?
IMO..Ford would have been Rookie of the year and made the probowl if he would’ve started from day one!
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JFORD was slowed by a hamstring injury, would have been starting and played more as a WR as he was having a great camp…
December 28th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Vegas….kiss the baby! lol
What do you think about #85…maybe?
December 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Hill Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 6:20 pm
I’m STILL wondering why Ford isn’t returning punts.
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Actually he did in the last game, think he has one for 17 yards… He is a weapon that needs to get touches on doubt…who knew??
December 28th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
No way that JFORD should not be in the pro bowl…
As his agent we will miss some of the incentive money we were due…
December 28th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Thec, I said before season started…look it up!
December 28th, 2010 at 6:49 pm
R8eray Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
Thec, I said before season started…look it up!
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I believe you Bruh however, you must have been in the minority report, as most of the semi’s in the blog wee telling me he is too shot, or that he would only be running back kicks only, or he was a typical Mr. Davis speed guy…
December 28th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
MVICK will play in the NFC championship game….
December 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Wouldn’t that be funny if The Eagles play in Atlanta for the NFC Championship game?
December 28th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
‘Sup fellas.
Vegas, I’d give Campbell credit for a lil more than that. I’m not a JC “guy” who is going to support his “guy” no matter what. As a matter of fact I supported Cable’s move to Grads early in the season. Thought he brought more fire and the offense seemed to move at a brisker, fluid pace with Grads at the helm.
The thing is, Alex and a lot of JC’s critics say after six years he is who he is. He isn’t going to get any better. I don’t nesc. buy that, because IMO he’s improved quite a bit as the season wore on.
Remember how he started out. In the preseason he about got decapitated vs SF. Got to ride on a rickety golf cart. Season opening disaster w/ Veldheer at C, and Mario late off snap he got levelled again.
I thought the guy looked shell shocked, like WTF did I get myself into?. Deer in the headlights look. I thought he looked tentative, slow to make his reads and even slower to deliver the ball. Hesitant. Long, looping delivery. Like I said, after six quarters I was ready for Grads too.
But after Grads went down, and JC came back in, down the stretch..he has been much improved. Much more confident. Especially the last four or five games when the team was still in playoff contention. Improved pocket presence. Cut down on fumbles and even kept drives alive with his legs.
I remember logging in after the Jax loss and the guy was getting killed on here for not being a winner and leading GWD with 1:30 left. The dude was 21-30 for 322 yds 2 td’s and no picks. HE played well enough to win. Defense and costly fumble lost that one.
Bottom line, Another offseason together with Hue and these young WR’s and who knows? I think the guy could improve the passing game even more. Improved timing and familiarity with the wideouts. Will he ever be an elite QB like Manning or Brady? NO, but I think he can get better and the Raider offense take another step forward and grow together. Continuity is key.
December 28th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Maybe the Raiders can get Joe Webb
December 28th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Wouldn’t that be funny if The Eagles play in Atlanta for the NFC Championship game?
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Total irony…
December 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
I know right? How’s it going Thec07?
December 28th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Raider75 Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Maybe the Raiders can get Joe Webb
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HAHAHAHHAHAHA good one Bruh….We do need a franchise QB however, until that happens i am ok with JC for now. Wouldn’t mind we draft a franchise guy and sit him let him see it from the bench at least a year…
December 28th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Sorry ’bout the long, rambling post people. Probably should broke that up a lil.
I think a lil continuity would serve both JC and the Raiders well.
Remember Manning threw a fit when his coordinator was going to retire after spending like 10 years together?
Confidence, familiarity and comfort between coaches and players IS important.
Both JC and the Raiders have suffered for lack of it, IMO.
Don’t want to see the coaching carousel fired up and spinning out of control again. I would like JC get a chance to show what he could do with another year in same system.
December 28th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 7:01 pm
I know right? How’s it going Thec07?
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I have been good Brethren, looking forward to 2011…
I have put myself on a blog diet of sots…
How goes it with you?
December 28th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
I do too, Buckeye! But would love to have a qb to groom behind JC…and not Kyle Boller
December 28th, 2010 at 7:07 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
Sorry ’bout the long, rambling post people. Probably should broke that up a lil.
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On the contrary, I appreciate the insight. Thanks for the post …
December 28th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
I do too, Buckeye! But would love to have a qb to groom behind JC…and not Kyle Boller
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Exactly….
December 28th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Been good…got caught up in the hype of the “OMG, can we make the playoffs”, so got a little disappointed. But in the end, I’m happy with progress, as long as we all see a better team next year!
December 28th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
Hwnrdr Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Been good…got caught up in the hype of the “OMG, can we make the playoffs”, so got a little disappointed. But in the end, I’m happy with progress, as long as we all see a better team next year!
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Young team and it showed…with some continuity game should slow down a bit… Lock for the team to seriously challenge for the AFC west… The “other forces” will need to be around for the draft…
December 28th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
Anyhow back to the shadows…1 NATION…
December 28th, 2010 at 7:13 pm
That is what I am really hoping for. Decided that the team did good enough and was exciting enough to renew my season tix for next year, unless there;s a lockout!
December 28th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
# Thec07 Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Raider75 Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 6:55 pm
Maybe the Raiders can get Joe Webb
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HAHAHAHHAHAHA good one Bruh….We do need a franchise QB however, until that happens i am ok with JC for now. Wouldn’t mind we draft a franchise guy and sit him let him see it from the bench at least a year…
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Webb is a beast! LOL! Just scored again.
December 28th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
8-8 was my prediction coming into this year. A non losing year would be good.
But, there seems to be drama, looming in the offing.
December 28th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
Hwnrdr,
Exactly. I think sometimes we forget how young this team really is. Especially in some key spots. Rookie LT protecting QB’s blindside. Rookie MLB making def. calls. Rookie DE. Branch, Shaughnessy, MM34 all young key contributors on D.
As I’ve said before, the entire WR corps still very Young and raw. Rookies and 2 yr players.
I think that is more of a cause of the uneven play throughout the season. The ups and downs. Moreso than Cable not having them ready to go. I think he has this teams ear. They like him and play hard for him. They just make too many mistakes. Hopefully they get corrected.
Don’t get me wrong, Cable makes his fair share of mistakes, too. Some real head scratchers. But he is still learning on the job too. Head coach of the Oakland Raiders isn’t the easiest job in the world (or league). I think Big Tom is doing OK. Like everybody else..there is room for improvement.
December 28th, 2010 at 7:28 pm
haha… Vick fumbles again.
December 28th, 2010 at 7:32 pm
Just watching pro bowl selection show.
1st of all Torry Holt is Sooooooooo painful to listen to. Soooooooooooo painful! He makes me want to mute the television.
2nd) How the hell did Seymour make the probowl? oh yeah it’s all about name recognition. He probaly had a all his friends vote for him so he can get a better contract this year. pathetic, I like Seynour but he’s not a pro bowler. Kelly was better.
3rd) Ford and SeaBass should be on roster
4th) it sucks Mcfadden didn’t make it, but I understand it is tough with some of the backs in the AFC.
December 28th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
Good post Buckeye.A couple of years ago everyone was complaining because we were changing coaches every year.We have finally had some continuity and gotten better each of the last couple of years but didn’t make the play-offs this year-which most knew probably wouldn’t happen this year-so now they all want to fire the HC.How short some of their memories are.If we don’t make the play-offs next year,or at least have a winning record(10-6 or 11-5),then a change should be made,but not yet.Cable has earned another year.
December 28th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
How ya doin Kell?
I hope not, man. This team does not need any drama. Wan’t it nice to go through a whole season with no Raider bashing and talk of “dysfuntional organization”?
No entire segments of “c’mon man” dedicated entirely to the Raiders.
Let’s leave the offseason drama to Denver and SF. The Raiders have improved into a competitive team who appear to be knocking on the door of the playoffs. We should be looking forward to another solid offseason and draft to improve this team and get it over the hump. Labor situation, notwithstanding.
To blow it all up, and start over would be disasterous, IMO.
Hopefully, Mr Davis feels the same way.
Just have patience,Baby!
December 28th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
The fans don’t need patience. They’re in control. They can stop purchasing tickets any time they want to. Al Davis is the one who needs to get a Super Bowl team onto that field, if he wants to keep his season ticket holders. So instead of telling the fans to be patient, I’d tell Al Davis he’d better get on the ball. 8-8 is better than 5-11. But it’s not a goal by any means for a respectable franchise.
December 28th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Did cable miss a FG in AZ,did cable not make a play at the QB position in the SF game,did cable drop a 4thqtr pass vs. The texans,did cable draw up the defense against Miami look there’s alot to point out. But the main thing I see is cable has gotten this team competitive in the division an that’s where u start to build u match up with ur division
cable has done that well. So yes for continuity cable MUST return as well as the entire coaching staff,save for maybe Marshall but in his defense he’s playing ALs system well with the players given him. Next yr is our yr guys
December 28th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
The fans don’t need patience. They’re in control. They can stop purchasing tickets any time they want to. Al Davis is the one who needs to get a Super Bowl team onto that field, if he wants to keep his season ticket holders. So instead of telling the fans to be patient, I’d tell Al Davis he’d better get on the ball. 8-8 is better than 5-11. But it’s not a goal by any means for a respectable franchise.
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nice post !!!!!
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nice post!!
December 28th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
It might be one thing if Al says this team is close, but I just don’t think Cable can get them there. Maybe if he could bring in Harbaugh, with his Raider asst. ties. But I just don’t see it. Harbaugh is too hot of a commodity and will command more $ than Al will pay a HC. I don’t think it will happen.
All the talk of Cowher and Gruden II is just sillines and wishful thinking, IMO. Not gonna happen, either.
The most likely scenario is something like Jim Fassel or Kevin Gilbride. Not that much of an improvement, IMO. Probably a set back.
The other scenario is a young up and coming asst. Could get lucky and find another Gruden. Or it could be another Lance. Kinda like playing Russian roullette.
I think they should give Big Tom and his staff at least one more year to see if they can build off this season.
Stability, Continuity. Growth. They took some baby steps this season. Next year, let’s see if they’re off and running.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Mike Singletary was fired and his record was 18-22!
You people think we should keep cable 16-27?!?!?
16-27 as Raiders HC!!!!
C’mon Man!!
December 28th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
-He was 4-5 replacing Kittin.
-He went 5-11 in his 2nd season.
-We are 7-8 this season.
What has he don’t to earn all this love and respect?
Just because we are not crap it doesn’t mean we are good.
Upgrade the coaching staff and the players.
We need results!
December 28th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Look the players play for him that’s the bottom line an what I posted line #100
December 28th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Joe Webb! Dude’s got game.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
We need to get competitive out side the west
that will happen next season. IMO
we make the playoffs next yr. We will also do well inside the west again that my friends spells playoffs
2011 is the raiders yr
it was nice to go to every game feeling confident we could win
almost got a cocky feel for a moment
haven’t felt that round here since……well you know!!
December 28th, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Done*
I agree that the players like him and they do play for him, but that’s not enough IMHO. We need a guy who can prepare better, adjust better at halftime, and manage the roster better.
We had 8-9 LBs activated with only 3 CBs last few games!?!
I though we ran the 4-3 and 3-4?!? 8-9 LBs and 3 CBs?! Really?
December 28th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Thought*
We need a HC who can override bad calls from the OC and DC.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:13 pm
Yea we played that stupid big nickel/dime package
with romac being the only LB on the field
December 28th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
# Raider O Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
-He was 4-5 replacing Kittin.
-He went 5-11 in his 2nd season.
-We are 7-8 this season.
What has he don’t to earn all this love and respect?
Just because we are not crap it doesn’t mean we are good.
Upgrade the coaching staff and the players.
We need results!
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Upgrade to who? Have you been around the last decade or so? No decent coach wants to coach this team. Cable is doing the best of anyone since Gruden, by far. As sad as that sounds, its true.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
IMHO I think cable has that authority
rather he excercises it or not I don’t know
December 28th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
RMR,
If that was directed at me, then you misunderstood my post. I wasn’t telling Raider fans to be patient. They are starved for a winner.
My comment WAS directed at Mr. Davis, theoretically. I said, Hopefully Mr. Davis feels the same way. Just have patience, Baby!
I’ve said before, that Davis’ lack of patience with his coaches is the biggest reason for the seven year tailspin.
If the avg tenure of a Raiders coach since Flores is 20 games…well no players can flourish in that much turmoil and constant turnover. The HC is neutered of all authority.
That is on Al. it’s one reason I think Cable should be retained. He’s not a strategist or tactition. But, he seems to have the players attention and respect. They are competitive and seem to be improving. At least moving in the right direction.
Let’s see if they can take the next step.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
We could have used TH or Grove, but we had Mitchell on the field. Everyone here knows how much I like MM since I wanted us to draft him, but we need to use him as a S and not LB in some pakages.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Glad Seabass didn’t get the nod…
his lack of nerve cost us a shot at the playoffs.
He’s NEVER been clutch going back to FSU,
and for the money he makes, his leg should NEVER get TIRED!
Guy is overhyped, OVER WEIGHT, and under performs year after year…
Playoff teams cut their kickers when they miss 3 in a game and cost them a road victory.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
-Harbaugh
-L Frazier
-Gruden was traded and not fired, so there is a chance he can come back. He also said ok am interview they be really liked this Raiders team.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:22 pm
Raider O Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 8:17 pm
We could have used TH or Grove, but we had Mitchell on the field. Everyone here knows how much I like MM since I wanted us to draft him, but we need to use him as a S and not LB in some pakages.
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this is true…that big nickel/dime package has him lined up on TE an slot recievers
you can’t put him in that situ for more than 10plays at the most
if the other team puts a RB in the slot he’s toast IMO
December 28th, 2010 at 8:24 pm
I agree Buckeye, but as you know, it’s not in our hands. I’m not sure both the HC & OC are coming back.
And the quicker that resolution, the better.
Dragged out drama, will deflate the players and their off-seasons, imo.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Raiders 1st pick in the 2nd Round…
Dontay Moch, OLD Nevada
AZ 200m champ. 4.25 40
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=75935&draftyear=2011&genpos=OLB
You can take that one to the bank.. AD is drooling.. (more than usual..)
December 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
How’s it going O?
I know you’ve wanted the Fat Monkey fired for sometime now. If they’t going to do it, they better have a solid plan, and a defenite upgrade on hand.
I don’t want to see the coaching carousel spinning wildly out of control again. Counterproductive. Self destructive.
With that, I’m out.
G’night fellas.
Oh yeah…Go Bucks!
and, Legalize it!
December 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Sorry I misunderstood you, Buckeye. A little sick today and I’m speed reading. LOL. I might miss some context here and there so I’m open to correction.
As far as Cable goes…I’m split. Part of me sees what you see, improvement. Another part of me think…meh…it was all Ford and McFadden. Keep those two, blow up the rest, bring in a real GM and HC.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
-Harbaugh
-L Frazier
-Gruden was traded and not fired, so there is a chance he can come back. He also said in an interview that he really liked this Raiders team.
Posting from the ITouch is not easy. I have big fingers.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
I meant OLB –
Dude ran a 4.08 at pro day?? NoF’inway
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/wac/2010-08-18-preview-nevada-dontay-moch_N.htm
December 28th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
We should be running Tampa 2 on defense, as well. With our speed an agility. Nobody would be able to throw on us. We get killed in man so much.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Darren McCondo didn’t make the Pro Bowl? Awwww….
December 28th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Good Night Nation!
December 28th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Funny that Al will overPay for special team players,
but is a cheapskate when it comes to coaches…
Take the ridiculous contract’s he’s given out kickers and give it to a Proven NFL Coach and maybe we can get to the post season next year, but allowing Cable to keep learning on the job will make us dream for an 8-8 season…think about his fake punt call against KC and the Horrible use of Challenges in the KC and Jax games just for starters…
December 28th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Buckeye,
I’m enjoying my break. How are you? I hope things improve after this week.
I understand what you are saying and I agree, and that’s why I only want to upgrade the coaching staff and not just fire them.
Marshall has to go IMO, but I will only let Cable go If I had a better coach who is interested (Harbaugh, Gruden, Frazier).
Go Bucks!!!!!
Legalize!!!
Good Luck Bro.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
# Raider O Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
-Harbaugh
-L Frazier
-Gruden was traded and not fired, so there is a chance he can come back. He also said in an interview that he really liked this Raiders team.
Posting from the ITouch is not easy. I have big fingers.
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Harbaugh – No way he comes here – he’s the hottest college coach right now and can choose any team in the league
Gruden – Will never come back – might coach the Niners tho..
L Frazier – He’s a D coach – Al never hires them as HC and he’ll prob get the Minn job anyway
December 28th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
buckeyeraider Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Oh yeah…Go Bucks!
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Suckeye monkeys!
December 28th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Later R8.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:35 pm
Cable’s use of challenges is comical. He basically throws a red flag every time we get scored on. Talking about “That’s bull@#%!!”
December 28th, 2010 at 8:39 pm
any given Tuesday kids. any given Tuesday.
Joe webb/Jack Webb/Joe Friday/Joe Tuesday outguns McVick.
Bears win! Bears win!
why?
NFL fears out on Sunday snow.
never before!
possibilities of (not probabilities) of South Philly snow problems.
hmmm…postpone all California games because of eartthquake possibilities.
hmmm…postpone many midwest games because the Thunderbird might sing (tornadoes).
postpone many southeast games because hurricanes happen.
PennGov – “A nation of wussies…”
yep
December 28th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
As far as Cable goes…I’m split. Part of me sees what you see, improvement. Another part of me think…meh…it was all Ford and McFadden.
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.. And Reece, Bush and Miller, and even JC (to some extent) … so things are looking up on Offense. If we could have just stopped the ridiculous 3-and-out insanity when we had leads we would have won 10 games easy.. We had leads in all but 3 of the losses this year that we blew because of the barrage of 3 and outs that killed the D – including the loss to the Colts..
December 28th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
KiffinRaider,
as I feel sorry for you, I do hope that your mother loves you. If she does not, or does, it is a dreadful thing that you continually inflict your pathetically transparent self-disdains in your pretendering to be a Raider fan. Move along in your self-hatred. It will be better for your mother, for yourself, and for everyone here.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
preppie monkey!
December 28th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
LOL Lonetree.
December 28th, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Mustafa, Jim “Bowtie” Tressel is the Larry Craig of college football (look it up).
December 28th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
where’s a good place to stream movies?
December 28th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Tom Cable has to remain the coach. I don’t think he’s a very good coach, however, he’s the only coach that can succeed here in Oakland.
If the Head Coach can’t pick his assistants, it makes no sense to replace Cable.
Same with the Quaterback. You are NOT going to find a better QB in free agency than a Jason Campbell with a year under his belt.
If you haven’t recognized by now that the Raiders are run in a very UNIQUE manner…you will forever be frustrated
December 28th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Stop hating Preppie.
We stuck it to you Preppies again!
December 28th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
# SnB Production Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 9:00 pm
If you haven’t recognized by now that the Raiders are run in a very UNIQUE manner…you will forever be frustrated
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And if you haven’t recognized by now that most fans are fed up with the unique manner in which the Raiders are run, you will be forever frustrated.
December 28th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
It’s frustrating for us because Al will never step down. It’s frustrating for the team shills because you guys are clearly incapable of selling us on Al’s unique ways. Cuts both ways.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:01 pm
For the sake of consistency, Cable should stay. I personally don’t think he is the 10 year franchise coach, at least he has not proven it yet, but he has done enough to buy himself 2 more years in my opinion. Plus the players seem to have bought into his system and also seem tired of all the coaching changes as of late.
I do believe there has been improvement this year. I’ve been expecting 8-8 all season, but I do think 7-9 would be a bit of a disappointment. Regardless, improvement has been made. We are scoring points, we have something that actually resembles a decent offense right now, add a true #1 WR and we are good. Our D could use some adjusting, but it has shown flashes of being good. More often than not.
I say concentrate on the positions that need improvement this off season, resign Bush, Seymour, Miller, Gallery, and whoever else holds their own, keep the coaches, and give this team one more year.
Let’s beat the chiefs on sunday, who will be looking passed this week into the playoffs. GO RAIDERS!
December 28th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
I’m pretty sure there are FA QBs better than Campbell, who is 19th in the NFL in QB rating, despite having a top-5 easy schedule.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
SnB,
good points regarding the HC. Hue Jackson will be kept at all costs. He’ll either become the HC, or Cable will be kept to ensure the coaches stay together.
Please remember, all, that Cable or any other Raider HC doesn’t exactly do much.
Gruden couldn’t cut down on the penalties. What exactly would a new unproven coach bring to the table?
December 28th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Evening Gentlemen, Been a long road but I’m back.
My simple points:
Cable will get better as time goes by.
So will Hue.
Constincency is good.
Als’ impatience with coaches and his desire for FAs’ with big names has gotten us nowhere over the last seven years.
Since JC doesn’t go deep (poor o-line, too quick to check down, stares too much, and for whatever other reason), would it be possible to implement a bit of WC offense to quicken his release? (not really a WC fan, but what the heck). Not that we have good enough recievers to cut across the field, but just a thought. Gannon was WC to some degree but was able to strike it now and again. I mean, every pass by JC last Sunday was short but one I believe. Plus, he’s got big enough playmakers in the backfield. Who knows.
We’ve got a foundation here, just can’t wrap my mind around how firm it is.
Als’ gotta bend here a bit. He has got to be pleased we’ve come out of the dumps, broke the double digit loss streak.
And on a parting note, what the heck happened after the SB loss to Tampa that drove us into the ground. Teams suffer a bit (Buffalo hung in there), but my gosh, 7 years of strange stuff. We coulda come back in a year of two, but 7 years? We are close now, and tho we have a much, much tougher schedule next year, our players and rookies and coaches will get better, and I feel we can meet the challange. We’ll be questionable at QB, but see how hard JC works in the off-season.
And I hope Al inks everyone ASAP so they can get right to work. No time off. No vacation (well maybe a day or to break, but that its). Get to work NOW for the 2011 season.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
QB possibilities next year:
Campbell – 12 Tds 8 Tds 2,232 yds 30 sacks
Palmer – 25 Tds 18 Ints 3,665 yds 26 sacks in 150 more throws
Seneca Wallace – Lifetime 29 Tds 16 Int (wow!), higher QB rating than JC (both this year and lifetime)
D. Stanton – Same Comp. % as JC 4 Tds 3 Ints only 6 sacks in one-third of Campbell’s attempts.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Another note:
I like Kolb from the Eagles. He could develope into a fine QB under the right conditions. Doubt he’ll leave Philly, but who knows. Chance he might go to Seattle. Hawks are messed up right now.
Palmer: No
McNabb: No
Singletary: No
December 28th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Seneca Wallace: Hmmm…. Kinda erratic at times. What is he 6′-6′1?
December 28th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Kolb is 6′3″, what 26 or 27, still unbeat up enough to have some drive.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
DaRayduh,
Easy option is we lost GM Bruce Allen and no one could replace the majority of our Super Bowl roster that was 30-38 year old veterans.
Hard to replace Gannon, Brown, Rice, Rod Woodson, Kennedy, Parrella, Romo, and Armstrong when Al is drafting…
Derrick Gibson, Brayton, Teyo Johnson, F. Washington, and Andrew Walter.
Can’t reload without a good QB.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
I’m wondering though, if Kolb struggled this year in Philly, what exactly does he need to succeed?
Pro Bowl RB, WRs, and excellent coaching staff…
and he struggled. Risky.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Wallace is 5′11
yet he’s thrown more TDs than INTs every year, including a solid 11 TDs 3 INT the one year he started in Seattle (2008)
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6446/career;_ylt=Av6.jJdlTUwTQ2KBdQER7zj.uLYF
There’s his link. Surprisingly, he’s never had a bad year.
Might make good competition and easy to bring in.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
wonder what scouts/fans have seen in him.
#s show a high completion %, few turnovers, kinda JC-like. Hope he takes more shots down the field than JC.
What he has going for him is he isn’t a known quantity like JC, being he hasn’t started more than 20-something games. Kinda Gannon-ish in that regard.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
You can’t take Palmers numbers in Cincy and transfer them here.
You can’t take Tom Brady’s number’s in New England and transfer them here.
You can’t take Kolb’s in number’s Philly and transfer them here.
This is not Fantasy Football.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Wallace is fiesty. Don’t know how well he could scramble anymore. And 5′11″ won’t help him. But a good back up no doubt.
I fell Palmer is just to hammered. I will give JC hte benefit if Al inks everyone ASAP and we will know about Campbell after the first game next season. If I can guess Al correctly, Campbell is here to stay. He’s gotta make a Plunkett out of him if it’s the last thing he does.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
You can’t just plug in somebody else’s numbers from a different system and transfer them to the Raiders from your play-station.
This is not Fantasy Football.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
KK, about the only take charge qb I could see making it in Oakland would be Payton Manning. But if JC has the same support team he’s had this year, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt til the first game of the season in ‘11. We’ll know then how him and Hue spent their off season.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:13 pm
I’m pretty sure good QBs put up good #s and give us a glimpse into the talent-level of a QB.
If you really think otherwise, ok.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Wouldn’t you think Campbell would have progressed by now?
Not sure why 2 months in shorts will make a bigger difference than 15 games.
Especially when he’s a 29-year old veteran.
Basically, his flaws are career-long. Lack of pocket-presence. No leadership. Dumps off without giving deeper routes much time, even when he has time. Struggles against pressure Ds. Doesn’t read the field.
Those were his problems in Washington, and he brought them here. Not sure one off-season suddenly cures that.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
He did well vs the Chargers, Broncos, Jaguars.
Horrible vs Titans, Rams, , 49ers, Steelers, Chiefs (until OT, and Colts.
Its hard to give him the benefit of the doubt when that’s been his history for 6 years now. Panics.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Cable will get better.
So will Hue.
JC, we’ll know after the first game.
Cable and Hue and Marshall will spend a lot of time together drinking beer and eating pizza and burn a lot of midnight oil in an attempt to make this team better. And they’ll have to do it in the late hours and early morning hours because Al will be sleeping, so they won’t have him breathing down their backs. Cable can present to Al a concept and plan for the 2011 season and Al will like it because he’ll know they’ve spent a lot of time doing their homework.
Just don’t see it any other way. JC is here to stay. So is Al.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Denver and Jax had league-bottom pass defenses, so just not that much to get excited about.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
It would be great to see what Al has thought of JC’s season so far, especially given how little he uses that big arm of his.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
To echo KoolKell’s comments, numbers just don’t automatically translate.
Carson Palmer has played on the same team and same system for 7 or so years and is still not very good at it.
Seneca Wallace….”C’Mon Man!”
Drew Stanton & Kevin Kolb? The Raiders are not the place for players needing a ton of development.
JC is the best for now. If he can improve on where he is now…gain some more chemistry with his receivers…I’ll “Roll the Dice” with JC again…then roll the dice with sketchy QBs on the street
December 28th, 2010 at 11:23 pm
DaRayduh Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 11:12 pm
KK, about the only take charge qb I could see making it in Oakland would be Payton Manning.
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Probably be the only one with carte blanche from Al Davis to do so.
Or else he’d storm out of here.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
Why are most people saying that the fact that the players loooove Cable that we have to keep him? Is it that they love Cable cuz he’s got them on the right path to the playoffs OR is it because Cable makes it okay to lose? That he doesn’t get “down on the guys when we come up short”? That “he understands how it is and doesn’t get upset with the players when they come in unprepared or when they’re inconsistent and lose to the dregs of the league.
I like Cable as a guy. He’s easy to like with his happy go lucky locker room talk and his general warm fuzziness, but is he the guy to get this team to the next level?
Cable told everybody THIS TEAM THIS YEAR was a playoff team. You guys are forgetting that even guys like Adam Schefter had us at 9-7 this year. Cable said playoffs, but at the end of the day WE ARE STILL 3RD PLACE IN THE AFC WEST and poised to finish the season at 2-5. It’s a weak finish period. To me 3rd place and finishing 2-5 is the most damning thing against him.
I think with this weak finish we are getting worse NOT better.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
alex7 Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 11:18 pm
He did well vs the Chargers, Broncos, Jaguars.
Horrible vs Titans, Rams, , 49ers, Steelers, Chiefs (until OT, and Colts.
Its hard to give him the benefit of the doubt when that’s been his history for 6 years
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I know. But maybe (30% chance) he finds a comfort zone, likes his support team, gains a little confidence, works hard in the off-season, who knows. But we will for sure know after the first game. But you are right in your assessment of him, but lets’ give him the first game. He is here to stay. Al will make sure of that.
That SF game was strange.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:25 pm
1st
December 28th, 2010 at 11:28 pm
whoa, Palmer’s not good at it?
You want better than playoff trips, Pro Bowls, 3,500 yards, and 33 TD seasons? Easy now.
Off-year? Yes.
Not good at it? wow.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
DJ-
The thing with Cable is consistency. That’s all. Als’ impatience with coaches has gotten us 7 years of garbage. I am excited for next year if things stay in tact. If it doesn’t work, put it all out to the trash, because that is where it will remain for some time.
But we got a bit of a foundation here, would like to see where it goes next year.
But Al needs to ink his staff so they can get right to work.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
poised to finish the season at 2-5.
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Good point. Probably what Al’s looking at, too.
Then what, start over with Kevin Gilbride? Wooohoooo!
December 28th, 2010 at 11:38 pm
If the Raiders lose, does Jackson, win? Interesting.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
Here’s how it reads:
(AP) Raiders fire Tom Cable
A press conference is scheduled by Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis at 5pm today to announce the firing of head coach Tom Cable.
Cable led the Raiders to their best start since 2002 even holding a first place tie with the Kansas City Chiefs for one week as late as week 9. Cable ends his stint as Raiders coach with a record of 16-28 with his most impressive victories being a sweep against the San Diego Chargers and an overall 5-1 record against rival foes in the AFC West, but failures against presumably much weaker teams such as Arizona and San Francisco ultimately proved more telling for Cable’s future with the Raiders.
Also working against Cable was despite performing much better during a three game win streak earlier in the season the Raiders faltered when it mattered most and losing the positive momentum gained by dropping five of their last seven games.
Owner Al Davis cited the poor finish and loss of positve momentum as one of the key factors in his decision to fire Cable. “The search will begin immediately for the next head coach who will lead the Raiders back into the playoffs”, and beyond”.
-Melissa Shuster (AP).
December 28th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
The above is obviously fake by the way. My writing isn’t that good, but strangley better than some of the hacks out there believe it or not.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
Pretty damn good.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Well, lets just trash KC next Sunday and roll into the off-seson on a good note, and Al inks his staff right away so they can get to work.
But Davis needs to bring Cable, Hue and Marshall into his dungeon and tell them what a good job they did, with the improvements and all, then rip them a new one, read them the riot act, let them see fire coming out of his nostrils, tell them where the fire and brimstone really lies, that he means business or he’ll roast them, then end his tirade with another positive like, come and see me any time, my gates are always open, and then let them get to work.
I got faith in Cable and Hue and Marshall. They were so close they could taste it. So could Al. They’ll make the necessary adjustments and we’ll be fine for next season. And we’ll know after the first game.
JC is here to stay. At least for next year.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Bummer for DMcF. Maybe he will be motiv in ‘11 and slay them all…
PB is all about the past anyway. McFadden is about the future.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Dj-
You forgot to add that on a parting note, Cable was very displeased about the firing, and left a pimp hand on Davis as he walked into the press conference and abruptly left right after the incident.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
I think the Raiders could/should have won 9 games including Indy.
Jackson get’s cute. I hear he’s never been a play-caller before.
But, I think Davis favors cute, rather than a run-team.
Gnite Gentlemen.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:55 pm
4AM is near. Later Folks.
Oakland 51
KC 17
December 29th, 2010 at 12:03 am
Thx. KK.
180.DaRayduh Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 11:50 pm
Dj-
You forgot to add that on a parting note, Cable was very displeased about the firing, and left a pimp hand on Davis as he walked into the press conference and abruptly left right after the incident.
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Ha. “After the incident with owner Al Davis Cable reportedly ran into one of the Raider waterboys and in a shocking display swooped him off the ground and body slammed him into the ground. Services for Scott ‘Geek’ Fernstein will be held Monday at Blanda-Wells funeral home just outside Jack London square in Oakland.”
December 29th, 2010 at 12:10 am
99.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
The fans don’t need patience. They’re in control. They can stop purchasing tickets any time they want to. Al Davis is the one who needs to get a Super Bowl team onto that field, if he wants to keep his season ticket holders. So instead of telling the fans to be patient, I’d tell Al Davis he’d better get on the ball. 8-8 is better than 5-11. But it’s not a goal by any means for a respectable franchise.
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Patience is for losers. We need Jon Gruden back NOW! If the 49ers get Gruden, count 2 tickets off the season ticket holder list.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Which 9 games KK?
December 29th, 2010 at 12:17 am
I’d love to hear that Gruden has booked a flight to Alameda presumably to meet with Raider owner Al Davis about the Raider head coaching job and the announcement that he’s the next head coach the next day.
Whatever Al decides to do, I pray he does it right after the KC game, or as soon as possible. Either way.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:19 am
I don’t wanna wait months to hear which way Al is going with this. If Cable stays he stays and we hope for the best, but if there’s gonna be a change I hope we hear it quickly.
Only thing though; Al doesn’t care what I want or how or when I want it.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:20 am
Al loves Hue.
You guys get that, right?
Either everything remains the same, or Hue becomes HC.
Those are the only two options.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:21 am
Beach, we agree on one thing, if SF gets Gruden, I’ma be one pizzed off mofo!!
December 29th, 2010 at 12:22 am
185.alex7 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 12:13 am
Which 9 games KK?
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He sounded like he was cashing in for the night. I’d better do the same.
Nite.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:24 am
We traded the most knowledgeable coach we’ve had.
Traded him after going 8-8 with Donald Hollas and owning the AFC West two years in a row.
Why would you be ticked? At Gruden? At Al? curious.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:25 am
Gruden, will know how to use all this speed, and mix in a few very good vet’s. If Chuck came back we WILL be BURST into the 2011 Playoffs, and kick azz. 13-3, 14-2
With Cable we should still make the playoffs, but prolly need help in the end, like 9-7,10-6
Gruden should keep cable as O-line coach/ast head coach.
Keep Hue, if not McDannl.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:26 am
I agree Djohnnyg, Cable stays unless the boss swallows his pride and brings back Jon Gruden. I’ve had so many relatives and friends give up their season tickets the last 7 years. I’m one of the few remaining suckers.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Traded him for P. Buchanon, Tyler Brayton, Langston Walker, and Teyo Johnson.
And $8 million.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:28 am
lol, at least Gruden would kick JC to the curb during his first press conference.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:30 am
Nice to see we’re on the same page, DRAC. Just like in 1995, Al would be forgiven by just making one major move!!! Hopefully, someone in Al’s inner circle can show him the light. Bring back GRUDEN!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 12:30 am
191.alex7 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 12:24 am
We traded the most knowledgeable coach we’ve had.
Traded him after going 8-8 with Donald Hollas and owning the AFC West two years in a row.
Why would you be ticked? At Gruden? At Al? curious.
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I am not mad about this. Al made a move that should have greatly benefited our team, and org. Gruden showed his hand when he showed intrest in other jobs, and was asking big way bucks.
If this had worked the way many thought it was gonna, had we won that SB, Ol Al would have been executive of the year/decade, WORLD!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 12:32 am
I’m even willing to go out on a limb and say Gruden would come back to Oakland for less money than other teams, if he can just run the show!
December 29th, 2010 at 12:38 am
Please forgive me if I’ve been watching too many Disney films. I like happy endings! Why can’t the season ticket holders get together and demand GRUDEN BACK? Can Al Davis enjoy having little or no fan base? Tom Cable is OK if mediocrity is your goal. Come on, 0-6 vs. the rest of the AFC and over 30 points allowed to all 6 of those teams? That is a freaking embarrassment.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:38 am
CDERaider Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 8:49 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
As far as Cable goes…I’m split. Part of me sees what you see, improvement. Another part of me think…meh…it was all Ford and McFadden.
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.. And Reece, Bush and Miller, and even JC (to some extent) …
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“to some extent” …LOL. So even you know how ridiculous that is.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:41 am
M Lonetree Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
it is a dreadful thing that you continually inflict your pathetically transparent self-disdains in your pretendering to be a Raider fan.
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Why in the world would anyone pretend to be a Raider fan? Who pretends to be something that gets made fun of almost anywhere it shows its face? It’s outright embarrassing being a fan of this team. You should be thanking me for hanging in there.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:42 am
But he left because Al wouldn’t give him more power.
You’re saying Al would suddenly change his tune and say
“my bad, fans. I screwed up the last 8 years by not doing it right the first time.”
ehhh, no.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:44 am
He’s had 8 freaking long years to realize he effed up!
December 29th, 2010 at 12:55 am
alex7 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 12:42 am
But he left because Al wouldn’t give him more power.
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He was “sent” on his way, he did not leave.
December 29th, 2010 at 1:05 am
Wouldn’t you think the lack of control is why he started “snooping” around college jobs he wasn’t really that interested in?
regardless, zero chance he comes here.
Hue is Al’s new love.
December 29th, 2010 at 1:30 am
alex7 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 12:42 am
You’re saying Al would suddenly change his tune and say
“my bad, fans. I screwed up the last 8 years by not doing it right the first time.”]
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He did it with Shell.
Then again, Shell didn’t become bigger than Al Davis in his first stint her, or kick Al’s ass in a Super Bowl.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:19 am
That may have been the worst QB’d game I ever seen in my life last night from Mike Vick.
He could have had 5 or 6 turnovers, and was lucky to have only three.
In Vick’s last 5 games he has 10 TD’s to 7 picks, 3 rushing TD’s to 11 fumbles with 4 lost.
13 TD’s to 11 turnovers and people want him to have MVP talk? He is falling apart at the end of the season.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:23 am
And if you want to go one game furthur for him, the first NYG game, than he has another two fumbles, one lost, a rushing TD and no picks or passing TD’s.
14 TD’s to 12 turnovers since the Redskins MNF debacle.
Think about that. Over 6 games (almost half the season and half of his games played) and he is barely averaging a better than 1-1 TD:turnover ratio.
I said it weeks ago, he should have got his new contract a few months ago. After he sits out next week hurt, than loses in the first round of the playoffs, his market value will decrease dramatically.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:38 am
–”Some Raiders actually seemed confused that they weren’t going to get a shot at the playoffs even if they run the table in the division”–
LOL, well “young amarican” thought that was the deal too, and I tried to tell him, but he didnt get it, lets hope he now is wiser than the raiders players..
December 29th, 2010 at 5:44 am
Good Morning Nation!
Nothing new this morning, I see…
December 29th, 2010 at 5:59 am
Damn those worthless Chargers!!
If they could have beat the lowly Bengals, our game this weekend would have been an exciting playoff type atmosphere, that would have been a great learning experience for our young players. Coupled that with a Chargers-Broncos game that would have also been a fun one to watch as well.
Instead, both games mean basically nothing.
Way to go Norv!!! Just as solid as ever.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:20 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HWNRDR,JFB.I HEAR WHAT YOUR SAY’N JFB,BUT THE RAIDERS SHOULD NOT BE RELYING ON NORV & THE CHARGERS 4 HELP.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:28 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…are you renewing next year? I think I’ve seen enough improvement that I can move forward with…
I think what JFB meant is that if they won, and we beat KC…KC would be out…play spoiler kind of stuff…but oh well…SD did it to themselves!
December 29th, 2010 at 6:31 am
Good morning DLF.
Yeah we blew an opportunity this year, but even if we won last week, this weekends game would still be meaningless.
The ‘99 game against the Chiefs propelled us for a few years, and it was the same type of situation we would be facing this weekend if Norv wasn’t such a bum.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:41 am
AS OF NOW I WILL NOT BE RENEWING HWNRDR. A LOT OF FACTORS GOING INTO MY DECISION.I HONESTLY THINK THERE WILL BE SOME GAMES LOST 2 THE LOOKOUT,BUT THAT NOT ALL. I HATE EM BUT WOULD RATHER C KC TAKE THE DIVISION OVER NORV’S BOYS IF NOT THE RAIDERS…
December 29th, 2010 at 6:48 am
I hear ya, Dirt Lot…I’m waiting for the results of the lockout! If it gets locked out, I probably won’t either!
December 29th, 2010 at 6:54 am
NOT AN EASY DECISION 4 ME HWNRDR. MY FATHER AND HIS 3 BROTHERS HAVE BEEN SSN-TIX HOLDERS SINCE 1968 (INCLUDING L.A. YEARS )JUST 2 MANY OTHER THINGS 2 CONSIDER U KNOW..
December 29th, 2010 at 7:05 am
good morning raider nation!
December 29th, 2010 at 7:11 am
Wow, that does make it tougher! I understand…
December 29th, 2010 at 7:21 am
Defensive tackle Richard Seymour, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha and punter Shane Lechler were the Raiders’ selections to the Pro Bowl Tuesday.
Tommy Kelly, tight end Zach Miller, McFadden and Janikowski were named as alternates
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no mention of Rolando McClain? what the heck !?!?!?!?
just curious, did Kirk Morrison ever have 2 Pro Bowl DT’s in front of him?
December 29th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Morning people!
My sports world is crashing around me. The Raiders are on the verge of making another mistake in keeping Tom Cable insuring another season or two of inconsistent, mediocre play; the Cubs have done jack squat this offseason; ND isn’t looking promising for 2011; the LA Kings are good, but who cares?
And then there are the Lakers….Kobe has finally taken that step backwards and will soon become Allen Iverson part II.
My only hope? The Raiders let Cable go and convince Harbaugh to take the helm and the Lakers trade Kobe to Denver for Melo and Billups (and we could watch the Colorado fans embarrass themselves by slobbering all over Kobe after all these years of them booing him lol).
December 29th, 2010 at 7:23 am
it’s a rainy cloudy day. i’m feeling blue
i am both shocked and disappointed.
when do we find out if McBeast won DROY?
December 29th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Kobe has finally taken that step backwards and will soon become Allen Iverson part II.
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trade Kobe Bryant to the Besiktas for Mustafa Abi?
December 29th, 2010 at 7:30 am
Lakers trade Kobe to Denver for Melo and Billups
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pitch in Artest!
that would make the Lakers a classy franchise. probably why it’ll never happen
December 29th, 2010 at 7:31 am
Come on now…Kobe will stay in LA…LOL
All sports teams take that step backwards, but not worried about that yet!
Getting Harbaugh would be something but…rumors are flying that SF is going to offer hin the job come Monday!
December 29th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Bynum, Odom, Gasol, Fisher, Anthony & Billups = championship
I personally hope the Lakers stick with Kobe for another 4 years and sink right along with him
December 29th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Jim Tomsula = next Raiders DC
December 29th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Rockstar…I really hope you’re kidding on this one…
RaiderRockstar Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 7:38 am
Jim Tomsula = next Raiders DC
December 29th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Getting Harbaugh would be something but…rumors are flying that SF is going to offer hin the job come Monday!
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SF hasn’t satisfied the rooney rule. Expect a visit from Dennis Green or James Lofton this week
December 29th, 2010 at 7:49 am
I really hope you’re kidding on this one
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why?
Many fans want to switch to a 3-4 Defense and Tomsula is an excellent young coach
He was DC for the Berlin Thunder in 2004 & 2005.
Head Coach for the Rhein Fire in 2006.
4 years as DL coach for SF he’s produced some pretty stout run defenses and turned Aubrayo Franklin into a Pro Bowl calibur NT
better candidate than John Fox imo!
December 29th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Yeah I guess…but you think we will switch to 3-4? Do we have the personnel to do it?
December 29th, 2010 at 7:50 am
Tomsula is only 42 years old and lives in San Jose. has Al Davis written all over him
December 29th, 2010 at 7:54 am
you think we will switch to 3-4? Do we have the personnel to do it?
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we could have drafted Terrence Cody and signed Jamal Williams, Maake Kemoeatu & Howard Green in free agency.
all those guys can play 3-4 NT. We’ll have the same opportunity this offseason. Have to wait & see what happens. I have a feeling we will spend 2nd & 3rd rounders on a WR and CB (unless we trade for Kevin Kolb)
December 29th, 2010 at 7:55 am
As for the Rooney Rule…since they were interviewing for a GM, and Softli came in to interview, does that satisfy that rule or will they have to do it for each position?
December 29th, 2010 at 7:59 am
I’m pretty sure Al Davis will see that both DT’s Seymour & Kelly made the Pro Bowl and both will return next season … obvious to me that we had “STUFF THE RUN” on the mind when we drafted McClain & Houston.
doubtful we will take a nose tackle in the 1st 3 rounds this year imo. Fat Albert may be released, but we already know how he feels about 3-4 defenses!
I bet Marshall & Haluchek will be fired and somebody will be brought in with more intensity to light a fire under Rolando’s butt
December 29th, 2010 at 8:11 am
Mike Singletary? LOL
That would be funny just to see him and Cable go at it on the sidelines…
December 29th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Mike Singletary? LOL
That would be funny just to see him and Cable go at it on the sidelines…
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the Raiders don’t have a therapist on staff do they?
not aware of an anger management program either.
we would need BOTH for Tom & Mike to coexist – we almost thought Hue Jackson was going to get a broken jaw a few weeks ago, remember?
apparently they both laughed about it. Hmmm
December 29th, 2010 at 8:28 am
I would love for Singletary be LB coach here. It’s already been mentioned that he will not get any coordinator or HC job. He can turn McClain into a beast!
December 29th, 2010 at 8:31 am
LOL, well “young amarican” thought that was the deal too, and I tried to tell him, but he didnt get it, lets hope he now is wiser than the raiders players..
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Huh? I never said the Raiders would get into the playoffs if they swept the division. I don’t even think I ever discussed it with you. They weren’t getting into the playoffs without the Chiefs and Chargers losing, and even then they would have had to win their last three games. You must be confusing me with someone else.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:37 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/29/cardinals-havent-shown-interest-in-re-signing-breaston/
Interesting. Breaston would make a good veteran addition to the WR corps. Fast guy with good hands, and can return punts as well…
December 29th, 2010 at 8:41 am
contract expires or will be handed walking papers:
Gradkowski, O’Sullivan, Bennett, Higgins, N Miller, M Henderson, Walker, Bryant, Moss, R Brown, Davis, Howard, Huff, Johnson
thoughts?
December 29th, 2010 at 8:44 am
McClain is a Beast!!!!
Trade RR for a poster who can see/ appreciate real talent like McPain, and is not happy with avg talent that had no real production like JLH.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Bryant will only go if they draft another DT who performs well in training camp.
Johnson will probably go if the Raiders draft another CB, or if Ware and McFadden show improvement in training camp.
I’ve mentioned before why I think Huff should stay, but I think it’s conceivable that he’ll get an offer somewhere else.
The rest I agree with.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:46 am
I like to see cable trying to slap Singletary. Those crazy eyes!
December 29th, 2010 at 8:47 am
under contract or will be resigned:
QB Campbell, Boller, Frye
RB McFadden, Bush, Cartwright
FB Reece
WR Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Schilens, Ford
TE Miller, Myers
OT Veldheer, Barnes
OG Gallery, Carlisle, Loper, BCamp
C Satele
DE ShoNasty, Scott, Houston
DT Seymour, Kelly, Henderson
OLB Wimbley, Groves, Williams
MLB McClain, Goethel
CB Asomugha, Routt, McFadden, Ware
S Mitchell, Branch, S Brown, Eugene
ST Janikowski, Lechler, Condo
December 29th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I think Huff is playing for a new contract. He doesn’t play this hard, and he didn’t do much till last year.
I will only resign him, if he gives us a discount.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:49 am
I definitely hope Loper comes back. Dude played pretty well in Gallery’s place, so he’s a good guy to keep around for depth.
I think Gallery will be re-signed for sure. He’s had a big role in Veldheer’s development.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:51 am
No Huff?!?!
December 29th, 2010 at 8:51 am
Yeah, it’s always difficult to tell with contract-year players.
Yet another reason I’m not sold on Routt. He had his best season this season, but whenever he gets burned it seems to be on key downs, or in the red zone.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:52 am
If we bring Cooper back, one of us should go slap Cable!!
December 29th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Routt is garbage!
We drafted him and Washington due to their speed. Washington is an avg CB, and Routt is below avg- avg at best.
Great 1st and 2nd RD picks!
We need a CB to be able to play better man, which can help us stop the run by having 8-9 players in the box.
Sign J Joseph!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Unless Wisniewski somehow falls to the Raiders in the second round, Satele should absolutely stay.
I think the focus should be on upgrading the RG and RT positions.
FA:
RGs Harvey Dahl, Carl Nicks
RTs Ryan Harris, Jared Gaither, Tyson Clabo
Darrius Morris (Temple) or Marcus Cannon (TCU) are both decent G/T prospects in the draft.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:58 am
Jonathan Joseph at CB across from Nnamdi would be spectacular. It would finally give the Raiders a CB tandem that can turn opposing offenses one-dimensional, and let the defense focus on stopping the run.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:59 am
I still don’t understand why we traded Washington for a 4th RD pick. He wasn’t making a lit of money, and we didn’t get a lot for him.
Is it true that GB offered A Rodgers for Moss?
December 29th, 2010 at 8:59 am
In the draft, I like Brandon Burton (Utah), Curtis Brown (Texas), and Davon House (New Mexico State).
December 29th, 2010 at 9:02 am
A guy to keep an eye on if Bush isn’t re-signed is Derrick Locke from Kentucky. He has the kind of speed that makes Big Al drool (more than he normally does…).
December 29th, 2010 at 9:04 am
We need:
1- CB
2- C
3- G/T
4- OLB
I like us to add:
1- Vet WR
2- DT/ DE
3- Blocking FB
4- QB
December 29th, 2010 at 9:06 am
I like Brandon Harris, but I don’t think he will be available in the 2nd. I don’t like the 2 kids from Texas.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:11 am
If there are good CBs available next FA like J Joseph, I would like to sign one, and use our 2nd RD pick on OL or WLB.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:15 am
I would sign AJ Hawk from GB, if they let him go due to salary issues. He can be a great WLB. We need a WLB that can help us against the run, and he can stay on the field with McPain in passing situations (nickel).
MM is a S!! Not a LB?!?!
December 29th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Is it true that GB offered A Rodgers for Moss?
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To my knowledge GB (mostly Favre)was interested in Moss, when Al asked for Rodgers GB soured on the deal. Favre was pissed, and it was one of the factors in him leaving the next year.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Stupid Marshall is playing MM as a LB, asking the S to shed blocks from TEs and OL?!?!
Great Idea Marshall!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 9:17 am
If the Raiders are going to draft a WLB, I think Greg Jones would be a tremendous pick.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Word is CB Jonathan Joseph might get franchised by the Bengals, but Mike Brown might be too cheap to franchise him, given Revis and Nnamdi’s salaries.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:19 am
Thx bro. That makes more sense than them offering Rodgers and Al passing on it in favor of a 4th RD pick from the rats.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:22 am
No Way. Brown is too cheap. He will extend a contract, but he will not pay top salary.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Re-sign Seymour, Miller, Gallery, Satele, John Henderson, Barnes, and either Bush or Huff.
Sign CB Jonathan Joseph, RG Harvey Dahl or Carl Nicks, RT Ryan Harris, and a veteran WR (Vincent Jackson, James Jones, Steve Breaston). If Huff walks, sign FS Jarrad Page.
Draft OLB Greg Jones, QB Pat Devlin or Nathan Enderle, RB Derrick Locke (if Bush walks), DT/NT Ian Williams.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:26 am
# Raider O Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 9:22 am
No Way. Brown is too cheap. He will extend a contract, but he will not pay top salary.
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And Joseph will want a lucrative long-term deal. Who knows how willing the Bengals will be to do that, considering CB Leon Hall will also need to be re-signed soon enough.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:29 am
YA,
I like your plan, but I’m not sold on Satele. I think we should draft a C too.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:31 am
# Sir Dennis Eeatin-Hog Says:
December 28th, 2010 at 6:02 pm
DMAC had a Pro Bowl season, but 7 of the NFL’s top rushers were from the AFC, including the league’s top 4 rushers.
The two missed games kept his rushing TOTALS below the others, but his total scrimmage yards (4th), scrimmage yards per game (2nd), and average rushing yards per game (4th) scream Pro Bowl. His 5.2 ypc were 3rd best among backs with a minimum of 100 carries and a minimum of 10.0 rushes per game. First in carries of 20-plus-yards, 1st in carries of 30-plus yards, 2nd in carries of 40-plus-yards, and his 6 100-yard rushing games were 5th best in the league.
He was the league’s only RB with a 4 TD game (Week 7 at Denver), he was AFC Offenisve PLayer of the Week (Week 7), and his outburst in Jacksonville made him one of only 3 players since 1950 with 2 rushing TDs of at least 35 yards each PLUS 1 receiving TD of at least 60 yards in a single game.
It also hurt DMAC that his TD numbers were not on par with guys like CJ, Hillis and Foster, and his TD numbers would have been better than all of the NFL’s rushers, save maybe for Foster, if not for the Bush-inside-the-10-love-affair.
Hard to argue with the selections of Foster, MJD, and Charles, though. Honestly, I think DMAC was a better, more productive back than anyone in the NFL except for Foster.
Example: Going into the Tuesday night matchup between Minnesota and Philadelphia, DMAC and Adrian Peterson had both played in 13 games on the season. DMAC led in every statistical category except for TDs (12 to 10) and 1st downs. Total rushing yards, rushing yards per game, receiving yards, total scrimmage yards, scrimmage yards per game, yards per carry, 20-, 30-, and 40-plus-yard runs — all of these categories saw DMAC over the NFL’s top fan-vote-getting RB.
Oh well, I hope DMAC makes a statement while I’m watching in person in KC on Sunday!
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Excellent post.
Very professional researching and summation as well.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:32 am
We need to trim the fat in terms if salaries to make it work.
Cooper has to go!
Brown Routt, CJ, and Eugene have to go too.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:34 am
please stop throwing around big names in free agency or in Round 1 of the draft …
the Raiders will go low key, yet again.
the only guys we’ll overpay are our own imo
that happens to be Seymour, Gallery, Bush, Routt & Wimbley (to name a few)
December 29th, 2010 at 9:37 am
Why would we resign Routt over a guy like J Joseph?!
December 29th, 2010 at 9:38 am
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# Raider O Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 9:29 am
YA,
I like your plan, but I’m not sold on Satele. I think we should draft a C too.
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I would like to, but I’m not sure the Raiders will have a shot at any of the top Cs in the draft.
The second-tier guys are O’Dowd (who has a pretty nasty injury history) and Linnenkohl (who at this point might be a lateral move from Satele).
All the more reason to upgrade RG and RT, in my opinion.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:39 am
WOW!
Seymour ahead of Kelly and no DMC?
Shows how out of whack the whole Pro Bowl selection process really is.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:39 am
Mankins made the Pro Bowl when he didn’t even play half the season?
December 29th, 2010 at 9:40 am
I don’t think guys like Dahl, Harris, or James Jones are exactly household names. Nor Joseph, for that matter.
Jackson I only throw out as a possibility because he might want a long-term deal, and other teams (including the Chargers) could shy away from him given the DUI history.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:40 am
We should resign Seymour, Miller, Wimbley, and Gallery if he gives us a discount. We should try to upgrade other positions instead of over paying guys like Routt. I rather resign your boy Huff over Routt.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:42 am
I wouldn’t mind seeing Eugene stay, but he’d have to do it on the cheap. He’s a key special teams contributor. Not sure what kind of offers he’d get in FA, though.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Is Wimbley’s deal up after this season? I haven’t seen his name among the Raiders’ impending free agents.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Nnamdi makes the Pro bowl with 19 tackles zero picks or sacks?
Wow…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_3
December 29th, 2010 at 9:43 am
Yeah, just checked. Wimbley would need to be re-signed, too. Scary crop of FAs coming up for the Raiders, that’s for sure.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Raiders should sign Mankins ahead of Gallery and release JLH and Chaz and sign V Jackson!
Resign Huff. Give Seymour the tag again. Put Mankins at RG and Loper at LG.
Now that would be serious moves!
December 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
I agree that signing Seymour long term probably not a good idea but want him here next year. We’ll need someone to replace him and can use that year to train him up
December 29th, 2010 at 9:46 am
Huff should definitelt be resigned without a doubt.
Otherwise, there will be huge void in center field and neither Mitchell, Branch or S Brown is ready to take over that center field position yet.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:47 am
282. Davis always keeps who he wants
December 29th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Marc Mariani really? 1 PR TD 1 KR TD vs 3 KR TD with a long of 101 yds. no love for Ford i like him hes been a bright spot for sure.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Seymour
Miller (franchise tag, if it’s back with the new CBA?)
Gallery
Wimbley
Bush
Satele
Huff
Barnes
J. Henderson
I think all these guys at least merit consideration for being brought back into the fold. Barnes and John Henderson could potentially be replaced in the later rounds of the draft. Bush is a good player, but might want a crack at a starting job somewhere. Huff might get a good offer somewhere else and walk.
What I’m afraid of is Routt getting a massive long-term deal…
December 29th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Nnamdi is one of the two best CB’s in the whole damn league….of course he is going to make it.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Seymour will be back one way or another. No way Al gives up a 1st rounder for a two-year rental.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:51 am
They need to find someone who is better than Routt.
They need a huge upgrade at RT and they need someone with who can pull but has more power than Carlisle at RG.
A young Center to compete with Satele at would be good as well.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Mankins made the Pro Bowl when he didn’t even play half the season?
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same with Ed Reed
Gallery & Huff got the shaft imo
December 29th, 2010 at 9:55 am
290.YoungAmerican Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 9:50 am
Seymour will be back one way or another. No way Al gives up a 1st rounder for a two-year rental.
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Agreed. Seymour has at least 3 more good years left IMO.
He also brings valuable leadership to that locker room along with the D-Line and whole defense.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Sadly, aside from Jonathan Joseph, the best chance to upgrade from Routt would be with the second round pick.
In FA, the only other guys there are Champ Bailey (who is ancient in CB years) and Eric Wright (who makes more plays than Routt, but gets burned just as often).
December 29th, 2010 at 9:57 am
292.RaiderRockstar Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 9:54 am
Mankins made the Pro Bowl when he didn’t even play half the season?
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same with Ed Reed
Gallery & Huff got the shaft imo
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Yep.
Gallery should have made it and so should have Huff quite honestly. Huff did well overall this season.
Don’t worry, those guys will have a shot to be added on as replacements, due to the Pats and Ravens going deep into the playoffs most likely.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:59 am
The good thing about right now and due to our stronger showing this year, is that there are some tough decisions for Al to make regarding the HC job.
Harbaugh could be got and could be interested, Gruden could be got and could be interested, and Hue Jackson is a possible loss to Cincinnati meaning he’s in demand and could be interested in Oakland too. At least Al has those options alongside the thought of retaining Cable.
If we lose Jackson, there’s no use holding onto Cable if we could entice Harbaugh/Gruden. There may be a chance that Jackson decides to remain OC instead of take a HC job elsewhere, if he loves it here and is excited about his offensive weapons here and learning more about coaching before venturing elsewhere as a HC.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:00 am
294.YoungAmerican Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 9:55 am
Sadly, aside from Jonathan Joseph, the best chance to upgrade from Routt would be with the second round pick.
In FA, the only other guys there are Champ Bailey (who is ancient in CB years) and Eric Wright (who makes more plays than Routt, but gets burned just as often).
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Not a fan of picking a CB in Round 2 and “hoping” he can replace Routt. We still have McFadden and Ware to compete for Routts spot also.
We need to draft a Center, RT, or BEAST two gap DT with that 2nd Round pick IMO….unless a big #1 type of WR like Jonathan Baldwin slips or something.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:03 am
under contract or will be resigned:
QB Campbell, Boller, Frye
RB McFadden, Bush, Cartwright
FB Reece
WR Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Schilens, Ford
TE Miller, Myers
OT Veldheer, Barnes
OG Gallery, Carlisle, Loper, BCamp
C Satele
DE ShoNasty, Scott, Houston
DT Seymour, Kelly, Henderson
OLB Wimbley, Groves, Williams
MLB McClain, Goethel
CB Asomugha, Routt, McFadden, Ware
S Mitchell, Branch, S Brown, Eugene
ST Janikowski, Lechler, Condo
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draft will give us a WR & CB in Rounds 2 & 3. Cable will get 2 O-Linemen, a DE and a OLB (hopefully not Moss/Scott type tweeners)
we will added some undrafted free agents or vet FA’s that nobody else wants (with upside) for special teams and backup positions
December 29th, 2010 at 10:06 am
The good thing about right now and due to our stronger showing this year, is that there are some tough decisions for Al to make regarding the HC job.
Harbaugh could be got and could be interested, Gruden could be got and could be interested, and Hue Jackson is a possible loss to Cincinnati meaning he’s in demand and could be interested in Oakland too. At least Al has those options alongside the thought of retaining Cable.
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If Cable finishes 8-8 going 6-0 in the AFC West we’d be crazy to let him walk
we are a missed FG (AZ) and Ford fumble (JAX) away from being in the playoffs this year – despite a 29th ranked Run Defense!
Grads wont be retained, so there is 2 or 3 more wins
December 29th, 2010 at 10:06 am
BBL – LUNCH!
December 29th, 2010 at 10:07 am
Not a fan of picking a CB in Round 2 and “hoping” he can replace Routt. We still have McFadden and Ware to compete for Routts spot also.
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To be honest, neither am I. I think Joseph should be the top target for the Raiders in free agency because of that. But it’s a pretty steep drop off talent-wise after Joseph in free agency.
I don’t see the Raiders doing any better at DT than the ones they have, so I don’t think that should be the second-round pick. If anything, the Raiders should look for a young guy who can play the NT position on a rotational basis (since the Raiders defensive scheme doesn’t use an NT) in the later rounds, much like they use Henderson now.
As I mentioned before, there isn’t much there for the Raiders at the C position. It’ll be easier for them to upgrade the RG and RT positions and keep Satele, unless they trade up for Wisniewski.
If Baldwin, Blackmon or Floyd are somehow available in the second round, one of those guys should be the pick.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:07 am
DKnight007 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 9:51 am
They need to find someone who is better than Routt.
They need a huge upgrade at RT and they need someone with who can pull but has more power than Carlisle at RG
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His name is Bruce Campbell. We’ll have to see next camp if he’s ready.
We’ll keep Routt and over pay him but need to evaluate what we’ve got in Walter McFadden
December 29th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Nothing scares me more than the distinct possibility that Al will hand Routt a huge long-term deal.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Agree with post 301
December 29th, 2010 at 10:12 am
C/G John Moffitt from Wisconsin could be a decent late-round pick, but I wouldn’t pencil him in as a day 1 starter or anything. If Satele can be brought back on the cheap, Moffitt might be good competition for him.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:17 am
305.YoungAmerican Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 10:12 am
C/G John Moffitt from Wisconsin could be a decent late-round pick, but I wouldn’t pencil him in as a day 1 starter or anything. If Satele can be brought back on the cheap, Moffitt might be good competition for him.
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There you go!
December 29th, 2010 at 10:18 am
I think Satele can be brought back cheap… There’s no1 who really impresses me in the early rounds of the draft when it comes to O-Line play…. That Blackmon Kid has some amazing stats
December 29th, 2010 at 10:20 am
should be a rule that a player has to play in at least twelve games to be eligable for pro bowl consideration. mankins selection is a joke. The whole thing is basically a popularity contest anyway. since we are never on primetime and very little coverage nationally noone really knows about our really good players…
December 29th, 2010 at 10:21 am
307.PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 10:18 am
I think Satele can be brought back cheap… There’s no1 who really impresses me in the early rounds of the draft when it comes to O-Line play…. That Blackmon Kid has some amazing stats
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Bringing back and resigning Satele and Huff should be priorities and either resigning Gallery or signing Mankins instead of him.
Gallery will be cheaper though.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Signing as many in house FA’s as possible is going to be important this off season.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Pouncey at center would be nice. he will be as good as his brother. i hope they give campbell some playing time this week. get his feet wet so to speak. give us something else to talk about this off season, which starts this monday…