Raiders shoot for consolation prize
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 29th, 2010 at 2:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and quotes and observations as the Raiders prepare to face the Chiefs Wednesday at Arrowhead Stadium in the 2010 regular-season finale:
– It’s not going to be like 1999, when the Raiders were out of the playoff race at 7-8 but went to Kansas City knowing they could stop the Chiefs from going as well.
But the Raiders are doing their best to convince themselves that finishing with a 6-0 record in the AFC West and .500 overall would be a stepping stone into something special in 2011.
After the 1999 win, the Raiders jumped to 12-4 and began a three-year run of AFC West titles.
How it all works out this time around remains to be seen.
“We all expected a little bit more. We all expected to be in the playoffs,’’ cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said. “That was our theme coming into the season; that was the goal. In training camp, we were saying it all along, this team was different, this team looks like we’re ready to contend. It’s a big year for us.”
Said quarterback Jason Campbell: “We’re just trying to finsh out this year on the right note, a strong note, finish 8-8 and try to get to 6-0 in our division in our division and go into the offseason feeling good about our last game and getting ready for next year.’’
– Asomugha and Richard Seymour conceded they’re not locks to play in the Pro Bowl Jan. 30 (held the week before the Super Bowl) although they hope to be healthy enough when the time arrives.
– Besides alternates moving up the ladder either because of injuries or players who made the team otherwise occupied with preparing for the Super Bowl the following week, another possible Raiders addition is long-snapper Jon Condo.
He was added last year on Jan. 19 in the days leading up to the game as a “need’’ player.
— Sounds as if Jacoby Ford, named the AFC special teams player of the week for his 99-yard kickoff return and 188 return yards against Indianapolis, could add punt return duties next season.
Ford could have conceivably been a Pro Bowler as a rookie this year if he returned punts with anywhere near the effectiveness that he returned kickoffs. The Pro Bowl return specialist (this year Tennessee’s Marc Mariani) typically does both specialities.
“We have been kicking him the ball,’’ coach Tom Cable said.“We did that in camp, in OTAs and all that, but were never really comfortable with that. As the year has gone on, he’s getting more and more comfortable. That certainly may be something for his future.’’
As for Cable’s future, he sidestepped the issue again when asked if he thought the outcome of the Chiefs game could play into his job security.
“I don’t think about that,’’ Cable said. `I think it determines if we can get it to 8-8 and 6-0 in the division. That’s really our goal so that’s what we’re trying to do. We’re focused on that.”
– Shane Lechler was stumping for Sebastian Janikowski, with Baltimore’s Billy Cundiff getting the nod at place kicker for the Pro Bowl.
“Not to have Seabass after the year he’s had, that’s very disappointing,’’ Lechler said. “I know he’s disappointed. I’m disappointed for him. There would be a whole lot of head coaches around the league I guarantee would take him. They won’t say it to their guy’s face, but they would take him over their guy right now. That’s just how it is. That’s how good he is.’’
— The difference between the division title-winning Chiefs and the Raiders?
Cable thinks it’s turnovers. The Raiders have 25 turnovers, more than twice as many as Kansas City (12).
He thinks it’s the biggest reason the Raiders have given up so many points.
The biggest area that I feel like we’re short is turnovers. We’ve done a nice job of scoring points, moving the ball, although erratic at times, but compared to where we were before we’ve done a nice job,’’ Cable said. “We need to be more consistent from game to game that way but the turnover thing is what really hurt this football team in terms of giving people extra opportunities.’’
The Raiders have given up 30 or more points six times, losing all six games. In those games, they have 13 turnovers and six takeaways. Overall, the Raiders are at a minus-3 in turnover margin.
— Although they took the field for warmups, right tackle Langston Walker (concussion) and Darren McFadden (ankle) did not practice along with Seymour.
Wide receiver Johnnie Lee Higgins (ankle), Nick Miller (ankle), cornerback Chris Johnson (groin) and safety Mike Mitchell (ribs) were limited.
Asomugha (ankle), and Zach Miller (foot) were full go.
— With an early game Sunday, the Raiders again moved up their schedule as they did before they played Jacksonville, getting meetings in before a 9:45 a.m. practice.
The Raiders started well against the Jaguars, leading 17-7 at halftime, but didn’t finish.
“I thought we fired a great shot at Jacksonville, in terms of our effort, and the energy level and the focus and all those things, I felt like were there,’’ Cable said. “And we adapted to it quite well by Friday of that week. And here we’re doing the same thing this week and kind of went right into it this week like no big deal. So, I think it’s something that will stick to us for the future.”
— Chiefs coach Todd Haley told Bay Area reporters by conference call he had no intention of backing off to keep players healthy against Oakland.
“Maybe some teams can think another way but we’re clearly not in that position,’’ Haley said. “We need to take advantage of every practice day we have and every game we have.’’
Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel said: “Absolutely we plan on playing it like a regular game and I’m planning on playing 60 minutes and I think everyone else in the locker room is too. The last thing you want to do is go out and get your butt kicked by the Raiders on Sunday and lose any momentum we’ve built up to this point.’’
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December 29th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
Garcia, I would say you should be a lawyer, but that’s only a line of work for good liars.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:43 pm
The 6-0 AFC West record is actually embarrassing. To run the table in your division without not only winning it, but even getting a wild card, just has C H O K E R S written on your entire season.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
I think McClain has been a complete bust this year. He doesn’t have the motor to be an effective MLB (ala Matthews, Cushing) Both have been dominant for 2 years. McClain had only 1 pick and did not cause a single fumble!!!! He is not a playmaker.
Just so we can quiet the RockStar down, I would like to see Goethel start at MLB in the KC game.
Then we can once and for all, find out how lost and ineffective Goethel plays.
Then we won’t have to hear RockStar pimp his old college room mate (Goethel) anymore!!!!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
FIRE CABLE!
December 29th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
WHY FIRE CABLE??????
December 29th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
So many reasons.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:54 pm
Dec. 29, 2010 4:51 p.m. – DT Richard Seymour has yet to land a long-term contract with the Raiders, but he called Oakland a “great place to play” and lauded the fans. “The history, the mystique of putting that silver and black on and representing the Raiders — it’s been a lifelong dream for me, and hopefully it continues.” Raiders RapidReports
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December 29th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Chiefs coach Todd Haley told Bay Area reporters by conference call he had no intention of backing off to keep players healthy against Oakland.
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Yes!
we will beat a fully healthy KC squad at home to knock the wind out of their sails heading into the playoffs.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
“Fox analyst Tucker Carlson says Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick “should have been executed” for his role in a dogfighting ring.
Carlson was guest hosting for Sean Hannity’s show Tuesday night on Fox News Channel when he made the remarks. He led a panel discussion about President B@rack Ob@ma commending the owner of the Eagles for giving Vick a second chance after his release from prison.
Vick served 18 months in federal prison for running a dogfighting ring.
Carlson says, “Michael Vick killed dogs, and he did [it] in a heartless and cruel way.”
Carlson added, “I think personally he should have been executed for that.”
Carlson, a conservative commentator, is angry that Ob@ma told Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie he believes people who have paid for their crimes should have the opportunity to contribute to society again.”
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
wow!
December 29th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
10th
Dmac got snubbed.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Does Carlson still wear the bow tie?
December 29th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Tucker Carlson should be executed for his bow tie.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:09 pm
I’d bet that most in here wohuld consider Eli Manning a great QB because they won a SB. Well IMO if Bruce Gradkowski had the same team and system around him as long he’d probabaly be better.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Tom Cable, has a John Madden vibe to him.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
17.KoolKell Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Tom Cable, has a John Madden vibe to him.
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Is being fat, white, male and human a “vibe”? Cuz that is all those two have in common.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Madden 103-32-7
Cable 16-27
I cant see the “Vibe” KK please show me where to look?
December 29th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
A couple of big, blue collar ex-lineman Head Coaches, with a plain football style, plain spoke. Not very good dressers. Raiders.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Madden started the slacks up to the belly button look, KK. Still popular with men 50-70 today.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
I thought Madden was a LB coach before becoming HC.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Sorry KK, I thought you meant coach….you meant as a player. My bad.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Madden was an ex-Olineman, turned LB Coach.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
When I said th same thing KK you wanted to make believe I was comparing TC to JM as a coach. Now you’re doing it.
However I do feel their approach to the game is similar Madden had much better players. They made some of his mistakes look pretty good.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:30 pm
[...] Jerry McDonald reports that Darren McFadden (ankle) sat out of Raiders practice on Wednesday.Our View: McFadden sustained the injury in Sunday’s loss to the Colts. Seeing as the Raiders no longer exist in the AFC playoff picture, we may easily end up season McFadden inactive for Week 17 and plenty of Michael Bush against the Chiefs. del.icio.us this! [...]
December 29th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
190.CDERaider Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Reasons the Queefs are going to the playoffs and not the Raiders.
1) Their OLine is better.
2) Running Game – DMac is as good as Charles but they got more from Jones than we got from Bush and they were able to run more consistently. This has alot to do with #1.
3) Legit goto WR – we have nothing to compare to what Bowe is doing over there.
4) Run D is much better – 30-40 yds a game better plus don’t give up the big play.
Cable will be back. The marching orders are obvious. Go to work in the offseason and focus on Run D upgrades (LB’s especially), a true #1 WR, and make Oline upgrade the #1 priority. Gallery, Carlisle, Walker gone as starters. Replace with BCampbell at RT + 2 new starting guards. Make a splash in the offseason and sign a pro bowl caliber Guard and draft an instant starter in round 3 to go with our young guys. Satelle is serviceable.
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Exactly!
Plus Cassel played better overall than Campbell, however the Raiders need a TRUE #1 WR….badly.
They need to go hard at Vincent Jackson!
Our front office and coaches need to remind V-Jack, the way the AJ Smith and Chargers treated him and that paying them back would be to sign with us, and the Raiders need to give him a nice 5 year deal.
He would be a great pickup for this Raider team.
They would be able to let JLH and Chaz go.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:37 pm
Priestj
Why did the Raiders run so many screens against the Colts?
December 29th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
12.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Tucker Carlson should be executed for his bow tie.
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He should be executed for making such a stupid statement.
Typical right wing moron who has mental problems.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Priesttj
The Colts had a small fast defense, the Raiders had a big bad running game, going in.
Yet the Raiders were running wide and throwing screen passes all day.
I don’t get it.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Colts couldn’t stop the run right up the middle all year long….and our best run of the day was right up the gut….KK might be onto something.
Hue is tanking games to get Cable fired!
I don’t know whether to love him or hate him for it! lol j/k
December 29th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
“Raiders shoot for consolation prize.”…
Is Cable taking them to Denny’s looking for the leftover skanks, after the clubs/bars close?
December 29th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
DKnight007
you are an idiot for making such a comment
Keep your Political Views off our blog
We all express enough crazy comments about the Raiders. Why bring in your ignorant Ideological views (however skewed they might be) here?
December 29th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Most just don’t realize wht a great wr can do for the confidence of a QB. You can make a lot of bad throws to a great WR and he’ll protect you with his aggressiveness. We just didn’t have what that luxury(Chaz Schilens) would’ve afforded us. If you throw a bad ball to our guys it will come out bad.
Had Chaz or some other bigtime rec been on this team JC could’v etaken a lot more chances. Knowing his guy will eithe catch it or knock it down. DHB made strides this year but they were so few and far between that they were almost unnoticeable.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
“…the Raiders are doing the best they can to convince themselves…!
Jerry, I like your writing but that sucks. As does the beginning to this article.
I can tell you this JERRY, your dad wouldn’t like it.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
# KoolKell Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Priesttj
The Colts had a small fast defense, the Raiders had a big bad running game, going in.
Yet the Raiders were running wide and throwing screen passes all day.
I don’t get it.
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Apparently neither did HuJack. IMO. that was a very poorly called game – playwise. Running wide and screens wide were immediate failures. Up their middle for screens & runs are what should have been called. He gave up on the running game far too early. That game was on HuJack.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
greatgradkowski, eli manning is a qb who played on a great team. and nothing more….
December 29th, 2010 at 3:53 pm
“Raider shot for consolation prize…”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Screw the effin consolation prize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go to KC and beat the crap out of them and show them who is going to be dominant NEXT year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Neither do I KK, I’ve been preaching the same sermon all year Bush heavy between the tackles and DMC as a weapon on the perimeter and in the passing game. But our OC gives up on the run game at the first sign of trouble. They wouldn’t have stopped Bush if he had given him the chance to play. Now we may lose this kid because he may not want to play here.
It’s cost us at least 2 games and maybe 3, stupid very stupid.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Damn you Hue Jackson! Took us from 12.31 ppg to 25.26! I want to go back to Cable calling plays!
December 29th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
priesttj Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
Most just don’t realize wht a great wr can do for the confidence of a QB.
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Screw that Priest.
Stabler had all the confidence he needed, as does Brady, Manning, etc.
Sure, you need great receivers but you also need a great quarterback and Campbell isn’t it.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Hujacks EGO got in the way of the Raiders playoff run.
Question Dakota! name the two best players on offense for the Raiders, and then tell me how many touches they got out of the offensive plays we ran???
December 29th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
15.Dakota Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
17.KoolKell Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Tom Cable, has a John Madden vibe to him.
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Is being fat, white, male and human a “vibe”? Cuz that is all those two have in common.
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I can just see it now, EA Sports Presents Cable 2018!
December 29th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Dakota Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Colts couldn’t stop the run right up the middle all year long….and our best run of the day was right up the gut….KK might be onto something.
Hue is tanking games to get Cable fired!
I don’t know whether to love him or hate him for it! lol j/k
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Can’t believe Jackson is doing that on purpose but the play calling in the last game sucked: 4-1 passes even though our strength is running.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Priesttj,
McFadden and Miller….and certainly not enough touches….but you were jsut advocating on here that McFadden should be relegated to specialty duties with Bush getting the carries….what is up with that?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Still wonder if Hue Jack’s suspect playcalling is falling on Cable’s shoulder upstairs at Harbor Parkway…
December 29th, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Maybe because the Raiders were already out of it at game-time, they decided to experiment??????????????
December 29th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
priesttj Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Now we may lose this kid (Bush) because he may not want to play here.
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Bush is only a restricted free agent, if I’m not mistaken. So if Al wants to keep him, Bush either plays here or plays nowhere.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
McFadden for Raider Player of the Year. Do I get off the RUe the day list?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
This just isn’t a Hue Jackson deal…think back to last year…when we played Cleveland and they had one of the worst run Ds in the NFL….and yet we passed and passed and passed the ball. We lost 9-23.
Maybe the guy upstairs has more say about how this team is run on game days than most of you want to believe?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Tom Cable, has a John Madden vibe to him.
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That’s an interesting comment although it may just be that they’re both in the Nation.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Dakota Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
This just isn’t a Hue Jackson deal…think back to last year…when we played Cleveland and they had one of the worst run Ds in the NFL….and yet we passed and passed and passed the ball. We lost 9-23.
Maybe the guy upstairs has more say about how this team is run on game days than most of you want to believe?
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Exactly, maybe Hue Jackson was sucking up, and auditioning?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Dakota,
What’s up with the Lakers?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Guess we’ll see how much the players are behind Cable.
If they really want him to stay, they better kick K.C.’s ass up and down the field..They should know that 7-9 probably ain’t going to save his job..
December 29th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
The whole idea that Jackson and Cable are somehow competing or not getting along makes no sense.
They both decided to bench Campbell because they didn’t think he was what they needed to win.
Period.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
53.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:09 pm
Dakota,
What’s up with the Lakers?
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Kobe slowed down and the rest of them are satisfied with last year’s trophy.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
They both decided to bench Campbell because they didn’t think he was what they needed to win.
Period.
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You don’t know that, AND, what does one have to do with the other?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Jerry just said the other day, that when Jackson was hired it was understood he was the HC in waiting.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
If our QB could have moved the chains on some 3rd downs we would have had the chance to run the ball a few more times.
But converting 3rd and 8’s consistantly for the Raiders is unheard of.
4 of 17? Really?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
If our QB could have moved the chains on some 3rd downs we would have had the chance to run the ball a few more times.
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Raider 1st possession, Z Miller drops a 3rd & 4 pass at the sticks.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
If our QB could have moved the chains on some 3rd downs we would have had the chance to run the ball a few more times.
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2 nd posession Campbell is sacked by Mathis, over your boy Mario Henderson on 3rd down.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
33% 3rd down efficiency.
25th in the league.
Hue Jackson, checkdowns, iffy pass-protection and errant throws.
Not going to work.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
KK I agreethey both said that there was an agreemenet that JC was to sit and Grads would start.
Dakota, Bush is a dominant inside runner while DMC is extremly dangerous in openfield, it’s a simple concept. DMC can make the passing game explosive with Reece and Ford. ZMiller is for 1st downs and TD’s.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
For those of us, myself included that thought Seabass’s miss would cost us the playoffs, we would still have only been playing for pride this weekend. We were wrong. But it did cost him the Pro-Bowl.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
DMC didnt get snubbed. He needs to show more consitency B4 he begins to even be mentioned in a probowl
December 29th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Did anyone here watch Jacoby Ford during his college years? I didn’t and never heard of him until he became a Raider.
Just wondering.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
Sebastain’s miss cost me a potential great night on a vacation.
Just went to my hotel room and pouted for hours on here, lol.
My Bruce bromance was in full swing fresh of comeback win against the Rams, and another crazy 4th quarter last minute drive.
Than Seabass shanked it and things were never the same between us.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
Mcnabb, behind an improved oline, to Vincent Jackson would be a nice combination in Oakland next season. Give Hue Jack a real starting caliber QB to work with instaed of the perpetual 2nd stringers we trot out year after year and let’s see what he can do…
December 29th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
lakers will be ok, and dah raiders will be ok too, not sure about the a’s yet..
December 29th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Im good wit goin into next season with Cambell as a starter and Bruce as a backup. Cambell showed remarkable improvement during the year. Another year in Hue’s system should do wonders. Plus I like Bruce breathing down his neck. I hope we bring him back.
The Raiders should not be developing QB’s. We do not have enough structure for that. We should only have vets at QB. Campbell works….for now.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Hard for me to root for the A’s because i hate the infield. No football stadium should have a diamond in the middle of it.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:32 pm
Hue Jackson made great improvements on offense.
I’m just saying, he is a first time play-caller and a few games were weird.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
They both decided to bench Campbell because they didn’t think he was what they needed to win.
Period.
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You don’t know that, AND, what does one have to do with the other?
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As far as the first part of your question, Jerry reported that in a article.
Do you come on here to read his articles or just to fart on everything in sight?
As far as the second part of your question…who the hell knows what that means?
December 29th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
A’s stink.
The Houston Texans of baseball of the last few years, always right around .500, but never above it.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
If there is an vet QB that will be an improvement over Campbell Im all for it. I like McNabb. I dont get Shanahans problem. He was very productive wit a below avg supporting cast.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
I’m just saying.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Campbell IMO has shown if given the chance he can win bigtime games, that means the coaches USE the best players and get them the ball consistently. When Bush is standing on the sideline 55 out of 60 plays that is DUMBASS football whenever DMC gets 15 touches that is DUMBASS football. The rest of it call it what you want. Those two are your BEST players get them involved as much as possible and you’ll win a high % of games………..period
December 29th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Neither one of our QB’s are starters imo. Sign Mcnabb and draft Newton and sit him down for a year or us him in the wildcat.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
priest
dmc had his biggest runs up the middle. dont know why u insist that bush is such a far better inside runner than dmc when its proven on flm that he isnt. dmc has been very successful up the gut. he told hujack that he prefers the inside power runs like he had at arkansas. if anything we shouldve ran him outside more along with up the middle. dmc is an everydown back whether some of yall like it or not. he has actually delivered more blows to the defense than tippy toes bush. agree that dmc shouldve been used as a receiver more. i told yall that dmc was gonna kick azz this year. HATERS RUE THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
I like McNabb too. he is a leader and a winner IMO. can still make all the throws.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Anyone watch the Iowa-Mizzou bowl game last night?
Wasn’t all that impressed with either QB. Stanzi just doesn’t seem that talented, and the Missouri QB looked good for awhile and than just folded like a tent at the end of the game.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
priesttj Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
Now we may lose this kid (Bush) because he may not want to play here.
Man I hope not! I love this guy. People on here have been suggesting trade Bush for years.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
71.Just Fire Baby Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
A’s stink.
The Houston Texans of baseball of the last few years, always right around .500, but never above it.
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haha damn silly azz giants finally know how it feels to win a WS and now they experts. they do stink but not cuz YOU said so. its cuz beane is an azzhole along with wolfe/fisher ownership. dont trip, talkin sh1t about the A’s dont rile me up like it used to. they make sick with their anti oakland bs, fuggin losers.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
Give me Campbell over McNabb, plus he is cheaper.
Palmer only if he is waived. Can’t give up draft picks and spend more money just for washed up Carson Palmer.
Give Jason Campbell the one back to back year in a system that he apparently so desperately needs, improve the rest of the team, and maybe take a flyer on a rookie QB in the back of the draft and see where it takes you in 2011.
With Old Al at the helm, we can only take it one year at a time.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Call me wierd but i like Dmac up the middle because he has great acceleration if he gets a crease. i also like Bush to the outside. Just the opposite of what how people think they should be used. Bush is big but he’s really not a power guy. he’s a finnese guy in a big body.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:34 pm
A’s stink.
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The A’s don’t stink, Billy Bean stinks.
Billy Ball? It doesn’t exist unless you’re talking about Billy Martin
Cheap Charley Finley was playing exactly the same game kind of ball game as Bean-with better results.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Armond,
HA!!! Wanted to rile up someone out there, lol. Beane does great with his cheap players, but when he decides to pony up some money, he is awful (Sheets, Chavez, etc.)
Only hope you got is the A’s and the young arms as always, and Dejesus hits .325 with 30 homers (he has the talent).
Go Dubs!!! 3 in a row with Udoh playing Defense
December 29th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
Cambell over McNabb? Really you can’t be serious… and why do you care about who is cheaper? it’s not your money…
December 29th, 2010 at 4:46 pm
231.Sir Dennis Eeatin-Hog Says:
December 27th, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Alex7, NFL games are hard to judge by numbers alone. When you look at 11 carries for DMAC and 42 passes for JC against INdy’s D, it looks like Hue took the day off. But as you pointed out, about half of those pass attempts came late when the run was no longer an option trailing by two TDs.
Problem with you thinking is how quickly Oakland gave up on pounding the ball inside. The opening KO return for TD kept the Raiders in the game the entire first half, when more should have been done on the ground directly challenging the Colts’ front seven.
Also, there is no way in hell Bush is more effective in the red zone, inside the 10-yard line, or inside the 1-yard line than DMAC. DMAC is an end zone hound and always has been. Bush is a 240-pound tip-toer who otherwise is a decent backup, but he should not be getting carries in winning minutes down near the goal-line. DMAC can score it in so many ways down there, and if you prove that week in and week out, then that gives the D more to think about.
Bush failed way too many times inside the 1 this year, and really, most of his team-leading 7 TDs were either ingarabge time of blowouts OR they were runs that and scrub in the league could have finsihed after DMAC did all the heavy lifting.
I know I’ll get crucified for calling Bush out a bit here, because all the Raiders love him, but he is not the caliber back that DMAC is, and the Raider’s brainstrust that has convinced themselves that he is a better runner in goal-line situations need to go back and watch DMAC’s career film inside the 5-yard-line.
Hell, even this season DMAC has been more effective by the percentages when you compare his attempts to Bush’s inside the 10-yard line.
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this is exactly what ive been sayin!! see the keepers of the faith know what we talkin bout!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
McNabb is a good quarterback and he’s a good man too.
The problem is he’s way past it. McNabb hasn’t completed a season in years.
We’re better off going with Campbell in the new year but we need to be looking for a quarterback-along with help on the OL. Especially center.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
vegas, there is no way this team will be that good with this joke of an ownership group unless we get a priest, 2 deacons and a million man march of missionaries to save this organization. they need jesus like a mugg!!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
If Hue does get the HC position, he better hire Chris Peterson as his OC.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
The last 2 years Mcnabb lookec like crap.. He’s not mobile anymore so when he does try to scramble out the pocket he either gets hit or throws an INT.. Theres no reason for Mcnabb on this team unless him and his MAMA are gonna serve the player Chunky Soup before the game.
Keep Campbell next year take a chance on a young guy in the draft in the middle to late rounds and let Hue work with him.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Hue will be OC for 1 more year.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
i actually thought gabbert from mizzou looked good last night. he made some bone headed decisions but was pretty impressive. never liked stanzi. only qbs that i like are luck, newton and kapaernick. the few others i have seen i dont like for us. would rather wait until 2012 with a stronger qb class to get a qb if we didnt get 1 of the 3 mentioned above.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
Cambell over McNabb? Really you can’t be serious… and why do you care about who is cheaper? it’s not your money…
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It’s my team, and spending money foolishly affects the W-L.
Don’t care about the PERSON making the money but do care about the PLAYER making it.
Big difference.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
McNabb is just a capable JaMarcus Russell, nothing more, nothing less.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Poll:
Which QB would you draft?
1. Andrew Luck
2. Cam Newton
I would take Luck over Newton without even blinking…
December 29th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Hue will be OC for 1 more year.
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I think so, he’s got a two year contract.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Kevin Flynn Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:56 pm
Poll:
Which QB would you draft?
1. Andrew Luck
2. Cam Newton
I would take Luck over Newton without even blinking…
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I second the motion.
Luck will come if Harbough comes.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Im taking Luck for sure…..
December 29th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Which QB would you draft?
Cam Newton?
Ryan Mallet?
December 29th, 2010 at 5:10 pm
Right hand to gawd!
Just saw Nnamdi & Hiram Eugene at Safeway’s Harbor Bay.
I didn’t recognize the white guy.
They must be working late tonite.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
KK Plz dont tell me you chased Nmandi out of town?
December 29th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Nnamdi’s a class act with people. 2nd time I’ve see him up there.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
I wanna know who the white was? Brad Roll???
December 29th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Aso is a class act period.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
The white guy 6′3″ 210-20? Sweats. He could have been staff. They were all looking for something to eat.
They must be working late tonite??? Film???
December 29th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
My comment is awaiting moderation?
It was on the Tonight Show moderator. Try to get out once in a while.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Randy Hanson?Brad Roll?
December 29th, 2010 at 5:37 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
Which QB would you draft?
Cam Newton?
Ryan Mallet?
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I’d like Mallet.
Don’t care for running quarterbacks-they tend to get injured, although Vick was a suprise.
Of course, he probably had a lot of experience running away from all those angry dogs.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
I think Mallet needs to be more accurate even though is accuracy has been gettin better with each better.
I like running QB’s with our o-line because it give us alil more time to let a play open up. Defenses are getting faster and faster and we need a guy who is some what mobile..
Im happy with either guy as long as we dont reach for them…
Mallet is a Al Davis type of guy?
December 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
Kevin Flynn Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 4:55 pm
McNabb is just a capable JaMarcus Russell, nothing more, nothing less.
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Surely that is a contradiction in terms!
December 29th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
*****I think Mallet needs to be more accurate even though is accuracy has been gettin better with each better.***** Murdered that
I think Mallet need to be more accurate even though his accuracy has been gettin better with each year
December 29th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 5:40 pm
I think Mallet needs to be more accurate
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That’s true and I hear that he has an attitude.
On the other hand–
a. Al got rid of Snake because he had an attitude.
b. Captain Checkdown is relatively accurate and has great stats-which he works on once the game is lost.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Mallet=Rivers Attitude
December 29th, 2010 at 5:47 pm
We could use some of that Rivers attitude.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
HEY DORKO BOB!
You out there?
December 29th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
What a crying Poor Sport???We could use some of Rivers Talent but his attitude is terrible? And Mallet isnt as talented as Rivers. So when you get a no talented rivers with a bad attitude you end up with Ryan Leaf
December 29th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
I havent heard from in awhile
December 29th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Well, Ryan Leaf had an attitude but it was fostered by his loving mother.
The attitude of a guy like Snake is something completely different.
Hard to see how you can compare Leaf with Rivers.
If we had Rivers, we would really like that.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Because they both have terrible Attitudes…
Snake had a rebel attitude
Rivers has a If I dont get my way im gonna cry and blame everything on my team attitude
December 29th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
Well, I guess there’s truth there PurpleDrank81, but Rivers is a baby who gets it done whereas Leaf was just a baby.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
I’m not prone to following reader comments on other teams – especially the Raiders – but I’ve enjoyed the ones on this article. A lot of insightful comments and no whining. As as old-school Chiefs fan, I have mixed emotions about seeing a playoff quality Raiders team visit Arrowhead, but it’s great to see the Chiefs/Raiders rivalry mean something again. I look forward to truly hating the Raiders again in the future.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:09 pm
Haha Rivers only gets it done in the regular season. He’s still tryin to do it in the Playoffs and cant…
Im really hoping we draft a QB in the Middle rounds and Im dying for Austin Pettis on this team
December 29th, 2010 at 6:10 pm
What? The Raiders aren’t going to add to their consecutive losing streak of 11 or more loss seasons in a row?
December 29th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
chiefsagain Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 6:06 pm
I’m not prone to following reader comments on other teams – especially the Raiders – but I’ve enjoyed the ones on this article. A lot of insightful comments and no whining. As as old-school Chiefs fan, I have mixed emotions about seeing a playoff quality Raiders team visit Arrowhead, but it’s great to see the Chiefs/Raiders rivalry mean something again. I look forward to truly hating the Raiders again in the future.
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I hear you chiefsagain.
The dischargers are just upstarts but You’re going to get the living hell knocked out of you next Sunday ’cause the Raiders are coming to town.
It’s good to have a KC team worth depising again.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
Purpledrank81:
I’m sure hoping for a quarterback in the next draft too.
Funny how Al does so well in the middle rounds but not so well with that first.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:29 pm
We beat KC and we’re 6-0 in the effin division.
That “Raiders shoot for Consolation Prize” title is crap Jerry.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
No to Newton and Mallet.No to any SEC QB.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Take it easy PurpleDrank81.
It’s 2:35 in the UK and time for bed.
RAIDERS UBER ALLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 6:39 pm
I was bored and started lookin at Mock Drafts…about 17 out of 20 has the Niners takin Cam Newton
December 29th, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Dead Kennedy’s …nice
December 29th, 2010 at 6:42 pm
What about Jake Locker??? He seems like he’s fallin down some Draft Boards? Anybody no anythin on Locker?
December 29th, 2010 at 6:43 pm
England Raider, I may poach the “RAIDERS UBER ALLES” that’s a good one.
December 29th, 2010 at 6:47 pm
“Oakland Raiders ich liebe Dich ueber alles in der Welt”
December 29th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Uncle Kell taught me german when I was a child
December 29th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
2. RMR you have an amusingly bleak outlook
December 29th, 2010 at 6:59 pm
I hope that the Raiders go in there with enough fight in them to let KC and the rest of the AFC West know that THE RAIDERS ARE GOING TO DOMINATE THE WEST! Hopefully next year, they learn how to win in the rest of the divisions!
December 29th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
I say they just let me draft this year……Ofcourse I’ll use some of your guy’s output….I was rigth on the Lamarr houston and Jacoby Ford Picks last year…
December 29th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Ne1 out there
December 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
If Hue Jackson deliberately called the game the way he did to sabotage Cable and get the head coaching job he should be fired immediately.
If he called the game the way he thought he should have to win the game, then he isn’t qualified to be the head coach.
In the end it doesn’t matter. He called a stupid game and that’s not going to get him promoted.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
1st thing we need to do during the off season is fire Brad Roll
December 29th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I registered here for the sole purpose to say, NO WAY to McNabb. I live in philly and have watched almost everyone of McNabbs games. He CANNOT throw a short pass and is not mobile enough for our offensive line. He’d get killed here. Campbell is so much better than McNabb at this point in their respective careers.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Ryan Mallett will be a great NFL QB.
Print that.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
If we sign him raider75 then I’ll jump behind him and support him but everytime I see him in a interview I wanna fly to Arkansas and slap the Dog s#!t out of him
December 29th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
I will agree that Purple…FIRE BRAD ROLL!
December 29th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
I wanna punch Brad Roll rite in the hamstring… I’ve seen better Athletic training at the Pinole Hometown Buffet
December 29th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
If we sign him raider75 then I’ll jump behind him and support him but everytime I see him in a interview I wanna fly to Arkansas and slap the Dog s#!t out of him
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lol… kinda like Phillip Rivers, Tom Brady, and Cutler.
I would like to slap all those dudes.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Suggesting that Hue ’sabortaged’ the game is pretty ridiculous. You don’t win HC jobs by losing games.
Yes, maybe there were too many stretch plays ran vs Indy – maybe; but overall our run game was getting stopped in its tracks and screens were getting snuffed out. This put us in too many 3rd and long situations.
In case you didn’t notice the Colts were wreaking havoc in the backfield. The Oline was getting thier azz handed to them. In these situations you have to call screens and quick outs to slow them down. That is what Hue was calling to protect that line.
Lastly, I don’t buy the argument that MBush should get the inside stuff and DMC the outside stuff and receiver duties. Its baloney. DMC has proven to be a superb inside and outside runner. The guy is a dynamic pro bowl caliber player. You feed him as much as you can.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
I think I would drop an elbow on brady from on top of a bus. Cutler deserves to get hit in the face with a putter and I would tie Rivers to a goal post and beat him with Tommy Kelly’s jock strap until he started to bleed and then run over both of his ankles with a ZAMBONI
December 29th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
‘Sup fellas?
December 29th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Buckeye…..My main man!! Quick question what do you think of Devier Posey???
December 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
Some of DMC biggest runs this year came from running inside. I just don’t get the argument.
That monster highlight reel run vs Jax where he spinned out of a tackle and stiff-armed a guy for a TD was an inside run.
His longest run vs Indy was an inside run for 26yds.
I just completely disagree with that argument.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
PD81,
Posey’s OK. He’s been OSU’s big play WR the last couple of years. Had some big drops though. I don’t think he’s anywhere near as good as Santonio Holmes was.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
We need a solid possesion reciever….But man that Blackmon kid impresses me more and more when I watch his tape
December 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
That sucked Holmes went to the Jets for just a 4th. That guy played some good football in NY. What a steal.
I know the dude was suspended the first four games, and all. Therefore he probably violated Cable’s “No knuckleheads” rule.
But, damn..the guy just likes to smoke a little weed. As do a lot of NFL WR’s..and players in general. Not like he shot somebody. Besides, legalize it..Right O?
I understand the Raiders (and almost every other NFL club) avoiding a guy in the league’s substance abuse program. I still think he’s worth the gamble for a 4th. Guy makes some clutch catches.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Chances are we draft OT, C, WR, DB
The Oline in Oakland will be see some new faces:
Walker or Draft pick (RT)
Campbell (RG)
Draft pick (C)
Gallery (LG)
Veldheer (LT)
December 29th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Terrapin,
I’m hoping this years draft is tilted much more towards the defense. I think this young offense just needs to grow together. They have the #2 ranked run game. Just need to get the QB and WR’s in synch.
Not sure why so many people are all for replacing Satele at C. Guy got off to a rough start in Oaktown but is playing much better.
I just hope Bruce Campbell is ready to step up and hopefully replace CC at RG.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Curious …what to think of the prospect of moving Veldheer to Center next year and drafting another OT in the 2nd?
Veldheer has done a pretty good job at LT. I don’t know his stats. But he could be a dominate center. Cable just screwed up starting him there without a lot of game experience and Henderson needed to be replaced.
Just a fantasy thought
December 29th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Satele has been better this year; however, Cable has shown an inclination to replace him and tried to with Veldheer. I think this says that he’s not satisfied with that position.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Locker looked really impressive just now in the interview.
Hope he finds success in the NFL.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
I think the defense, while playing well at times…needs the most attention this offseason.
I think they need another OLB to complement McClain and Wimbley. Groves seems to be a stopgap at best. The guy didn’t make much of an impact at all. He wasn’t horrible, but I think the position can be upgraded.
I like the Raiders two young DE’s ends in Houston and Shonasty. They are both fairly balanced..strong against run and pass. Both should get even better.
I would like to see the Raiders add a pure speed rusher. A pass rush specialist for 3rd downs. Kick Houston inside on 3rd. Somebody that can put his hand in the dirt and then just beat the OT around the edge. Make offenses account for him. Slide protection his way.
I think that is something this defense lacks. They have a lot of sacks spread amongst a lot of players, but no dominant speed rusher. One reason they give up so damn many 3rd and long conversions,IMO.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
I have no quarrels with drafting defense except for the fact that we do not have a 1st round pick and I would think that pick would likely be for a DE. We have a mid/late 2nd round pick.
By that time I highly doubt a DE will be on the board capable of cracking our starting lineup. And thats what we need.
On the other hand there may be quality OTs, Cs, WRs, and DBs …possibly DTs (but they won’t crack the starting lineup ahead of Kelly/Seymour …maybe not even Big John). Thats why I say the probability is we draft OT, C, WR and DB.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
OLB is a possibility. Maybe Jarvis Moss shows up and solves our DE need?
December 29th, 2010 at 8:42 pm
The number one thing they need to add this offseason, either through the draft or FA is a #2 corner to pair with Nnamdi,IMO. That is, if they are going to play old school Raider man to man most of the time. And they probably should, because they look absolutely horrible when they try to play zone.
90% of NFL quarterbacks not named Rivers are going to avoid throwing at #21 like the plague. So that other corner is going to get picked on, and worked over.
Stanford Routt frustrates me to no end. He is the prototypical corner. He has the perfect size and speed for the position. He just seems to have no instincts.
He will actually have very nice coverage, but he just doesn’t do the little things like turn and look for the ball. He has an infuriating habit of grabbing the WR at the last second, and drawing a cotly PI. Even when he doesn’t need to.
What’s even worse is, he seems to have the rep amongst league refs as a player who grabs and holds because he gets the most costly, untimely penalties imaginable. Calls a lot of corners wouldn’t get.
Playing opposite Nnamdi is a tough gig, but if he hasn’t mastered the techniques of the pos. by now, I don’t know if he ever will.
For this Raider defense to work, they need a Lester hayes to Nnams’ Mike Haynes, if you will.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:48 pm
I think McClain has been a complete bust this year. He doesn’t have the motor to be an effective MLB (ala Matthews, Cushing) Both have been dominant for 2 years. McClain had only 1 pick and did not cause a single fumble!!!! He is not a playmaker.
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Matthews and Cushing are not MLBs, they’re WLBs. Cushing played MLB when DeMeco Ryans went down to injury, and disappeared there.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:02 pm
I cannot believe it’s week 17 already. Football season goes by so fast. Seems like it takes forever to get here and then it’s over in the blink of an eye.
Hopefully next year the Raiders are playing well into Juanuary. Extend the season a little.
G’night fellas.
December 29th, 2010 at 9:31 pm
Right! Legalize it!!!
Holmes was traded for a 5th RD pick.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:19 pm
Raiders schedule next year (if I got this right):
2X division opponents KC, SD, Denver
NFC East (Dallas, Philly, Wash, NY Giants)
AFC east (Pats, NY Jets, Miami, Buffalo)
assuming 3rd place finish:
Cleveland Browns
Tennessee Titans
If 2nd place (raiders beat KC, Chargers lose to Denver)
Baltimore Ravens
Jacksonville Jaguars
That’s a whole lot of east coast trips
December 29th, 2010 at 11:24 pm
“We’re probably the youngest offense in the NFL,” Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell said, “(but) we rank 10th in the NFL. That’s a good accomplishment.”
-Jason Campbell
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A “winner” QB doesn’t say something like that. A “winner” doesn’t care what their offensive ranking was they care if they win games and make the playoffs.
Would Brady, Rivers, Brees, heck even Vick or Roethlisberger make a statement like that? NO!!!
December 29th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Raiders are going nowhere until they get rid of this “it’s okay to lose” mentality. They go nowhere until they refuse to accept 7-9 as a “pretty good season” nor accept their 30th ranked QB considering himself doing “a pretty good job”.
Yes the Raiders have improved this year, but they seem to be okay with average or just below.
You can’t be so easy to accept losing and expect to be a playoff team.
Quit patting yourselves on the back Raiders.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
False statements are just that, he’s not saying he’s satisfied you are. He wants to win a SB I’m sure does he need to say it everytime he asseses the season.
Armond just to respond to your DMC take. No one is saying the guy isn’t a every down back He showed that he is. But my point is we have two outstanding HB’s and I want use both of them. DMC is great in openfield and I would get him out there as much as possible with the passing game. No knock on him at all but he can help us in a lot of ways, why not use him?
I would get him 25+ touches a game and run Bush inside more. Use Ford in the slot and DHB as a flanker. Move the chains with ZM and you would score 25 pergame just with those weapons.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
This isn’t rocket science.
Winners win, losers lose.
Cambell-Used to losing. Hs he ever had a winning season as a pro?
Cable- Horrible record as a coach at Idaho and no winning seasons as a pro.
These guys are used to losing and it’s become a part of who they are.
The only “culture change” this org. needs is replacing the ones who are used to and accept losing and bring in the people who are used to winning and don’t accept losing as a neccessary fact of football life and who don’t pat themselves on the back for acheiving meaningless statistics.
We need WINNERS.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:56 pm
Just as soon as you can get a QB capable of greatness I’m all for it. In the meantime Campbell has played well and has been a stabilizing force at QB. If you can get Brady in here let us know and while you’re at it get Larry Fitzgerald and Dwight Freeny.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
For all the “progress” this team has made this year, and yes there has been some. We are no longer a joke and have acheived a level of respectability by improving the overall win loss record, and have shown flashes of excellence we haven’t seen in a long time. That’s great. Problem is we peaked at 5-4 and all of a sudden we are headed down the tubes yet again and are sinking AGAIN.
We lose Sunday and it’s a 2-5 finish. Hardly a “Raider Resurgence” and concern should be we are going back to exactly where we were before this season.
It’s not how you start it’s how you finish right? Losing five of your last seven shows a team on the decline yet AGAIN.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:18 am
Wwe’re giving up way too many points the defense has been really bad lately.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:22 am
How do you give up 200 yards rushing to Indy??
December 30th, 2010 at 12:58 am
Matthews and Cushing are not MLBs, they’re WLBs. Cushing played MLB when DeMeco Ryans went down to injury, and disappeared there.
hey YoungOne
I don’t care if they play Mike, Sam, or Will. They were 1st round LB’s and have motors that dont quit like Rolando’s
Its as if he’s trying to power his Caddy with a VW engine
There is nothing there!!!!!
December 30th, 2010 at 1:27 am
why you bhave a problem rolando?
December 30th, 2010 at 1:35 am
The best thing about this season was the 3 straight wins and beating the Chargers twice. Other than that we didn’t do much. We should’ve played much better vs the Cards and SF and definitely should’ve beat Miami.
Losing those games are the reason we’re not a playoff team. If you can’t beat bad teams you don’t deserve to go. You’re just not good enough, next year they have to beeat teams they should beat and win in the division again. We’re as good as most teams in the playoffs talent wise but we lack confidence when games are on the line. It showed in SF, AZ, Jax and at home vs Miami that’s 4 loses if you win you have 11 wins looking for the 12th.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:47 am
Again it’s that whole “winning thing”. Talent is there as they always say about Oakland, but when u are so used to coming up short it becomes a part of you that appears is difficult to shake.
By the way, did the Raiders complete ONE SINGLE LONG TD PASS ALL YEAR? I know we had short passes that turned into a long TD, but I don’t recall one single deep route long toss for a TD.
With all this speed we have, you’d think there’d be a at least a few of those.
December 30th, 2010 at 2:37 am
I havent been on here in sometime, I sat and watched this young team with ups and downs like I said sometime ago. I remember all the back and forth of who should be starting qb. I remember saying cable I didnt like the way he handled the qb situation and you dont come out and say Garcia is the starter even when he s hurt and you need campbell to save your season and butt. Now look at everything, Campbell has lots of questions still and the question of will he go down field but you know I still stick to my guns. I wish Cable to be gone and I still wish for AL to do whats right, Gruden , Callahan as line coach and floyd reece as gm old tenn gm. Just continue growing becuase what was acomplished this year was with smoke and mirrors. That Offensive line is not good at all. When it comes time to have to battle REAL teams and Real defenses they get NO PUSH even for the run let alone teh DEEP PASS lol. THe WR arent good at all , we relied on a 7th round 6 foot? Id keep both qbs and still draft another but offensive line is number one on this team C…Tackle ..Guard…and that could be done somewhat with some signings one or two and then draft a qb. Its funny we could have used T.O but many of us was scared. AL do the right again and sign Gruden if it hasnt been too long and get a GM…I have never liked how we for 7 years cant battle and be apart of the tradition of years past of great gms vs NE …PITT…
December 30th, 2010 at 2:38 am
SMOKE AND MIRRORS
December 30th, 2010 at 2:50 am
And the thing about Hue Jackson is can he game plan and make adjustment during gm like a gruden also great coaches have the players on guard against certain tendencies during a gm. We get beat by teams tendencies.
December 30th, 2010 at 3:29 am
Kaepernick.
December 30th, 2010 at 5:34 am
Some say we need a C, and a G and T for the right side.
The Atlanta Falcons, at 12-3 and with a fierce rushing attack, have a 7th round pick at C and two undrafted, multiple-times cut, guys at G and T.
Tyson Clabo and Harvery Dahl were NFL scrubs before Atlanta, Dahl waived once and floundering on the 49ers practice squad for two years and Clabo waived 4 TIMES!!!!
It’s the QB!!!
December 30th, 2010 at 5:41 am
Colts have had 3 left tackles in the last 4 years, settling on a converted college TE and a 6th round pick (Charlie Johnson).
December 30th, 2010 at 5:45 am
Good Morning Nation!
JFB…what’s up bro?
December 30th, 2010 at 5:48 am
Colts have switched at least one lineman every season since 2006 (last year one, 2008 two including LT).
Results
2010-#1 in sacks allowed
2009-#1 in sacks allowed
2008-#4 in sacks allowed
2007-#7 in sacks allowed
2006-#1 in sacks allowed
Not rocket science folks. RG’s for Super Bowl teams switch from year to year, get picked up off NFL Europe teams and practice squads, are undrafted and easily replaced.
December 30th, 2010 at 5:49 am
Morning Hwnrdr!!
Just off to my morning rant with my coffee, lol.
December 30th, 2010 at 5:52 am
I hear ya…that’s my next move…coffee! With a chocholate cupcake! LOL
My last working day of the year…
December 30th, 2010 at 5:55 am
My last day of the work year is going to be multiple hours with Rosetta Stone
December 30th, 2010 at 6:00 am
What language you tryna learn?
December 30th, 2010 at 6:02 am
Does the O-line need to improve? Of course.
But just drafting lineman high in the draft is not the answer.
Look at our O-line and their draft status. With Walker in the game, we have two 1st round picks, a 2nd and a 3rd round pick on our O-line.
I’m not even sure there is another team in the league with that high of draft picks along their line.
December 30th, 2010 at 6:03 am
Spanish.
Necesito hablo espanol por El Paso empleados.
December 30th, 2010 at 6:05 am
I think McClain has been a complete bust this year. He doesn’t have the motor to be an effective MLB (ala Matthews, Cushing) Both have been dominant for 2 years. McClain had only 1 pick and did not cause a single fumble!!!! He is not a playmaker.
Just so we can quiet the RockStar down, I would like to see Goethel start at MLB in the KC game.
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Big Lefty = stud!
Thec, I would like to nominate him for semi pro blogger status.
Please let me know when approved (so we can toast to him) or denied (so I can file an appeal)
Thanks in advance,
your friendly neighborhood redneck
December 30th, 2010 at 6:07 am
It’s crazy in El Paso. You got actual city workers, born in the US, who speak less English than I speak Spanish.
Something wrong there.
December 30th, 2010 at 6:09 am
Then we won’t have to hear RockStar pimp his old college room mate (Goethel) anymore!!!!!!
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LOL!
Goethel was born in Oceanside, attended Vista High School and went to Arizona State
I have no connection to him. Just know he’s a beast on the football field, the next Greg Biekert
December 30th, 2010 at 6:14 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.HWNRDR,JFB,ROCKSTAR.GUESS WE GOT 4 MONTHS OF DRAFT BS 2 LOOK 4WARD 2..AHH YES,I REMEMBER GREG BIEKERT CHASING PEOPLE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD..
December 30th, 2010 at 6:16 am
Travis Goethel’s bio:
As a junior in high school, he recorded 155 tackles, including 14 tackles for loss, 8 quarterback sacks, and 5 interceptions, two which he returned for touchdowns. He was rated as high as the No.10 linebacker in the country by Rivals.com. He picked Arizona State over scholarship offers from Oregon State, Utah and Washington.
He played in all 50 games over his four-year career, including 41 starts. He totaled 228 tackles (143 solo), 19.0 tackles for loss, 2.0 sacks, nine pass break-ups, three interceptions, three forced fumbles and one fumble recovery in his career. He was an Honorable Mention Pac-10 All selection in his senior season, and in his freshman season, garnered Pac-10 All freshman honors and honorable mention Freshman All-American.
December 30th, 2010 at 6:19 am
SMASH!
http://prod.static.raiders.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/OAK/photos/clubimages/2010/12-December/Jaguars40–nfl_large_580_1000.jpg
December 30th, 2010 at 6:22 am
That’s too funny JFB, but I believe it! Haha…
Good Morning Rockstar, Dirt Lot! The great Greg Biekert…recovered that fumble in the snow…oh wait…it was overturned!
I am hoping that the Niners don’t get Harbaugh, but it looks like it may happen (unless Luck stays in school and Harbaugh decides to stay one more year…)
December 30th, 2010 at 6:34 am
I like Jim Harbaugh, always have even as a player for Chicago & Indy …
hope he doesn’t take a HC job for SF, because I have a feeling he’s going to fare pretty well in the bigs (like his brother John in Baltimore)
December 30th, 2010 at 6:40 am
Hwnrdr,
aren’t Chester McGlockton & Steve Wisniewski coaching under JH at Stanford right now?
December 30th, 2010 at 6:46 am
Yup, you’re right!
Chester McGlockton is a defensive intern and The Wiz is a strength and conditioning intern
December 30th, 2010 at 6:48 am
You think The Wiz would be a better strength and conditioning coach than fn Brad Roll? I would say Run Run would have probably been a better S&C Coach than him…
December 30th, 2010 at 6:51 am
NEED SOME OF THAT WIZ ATTITUDE 4 SURE.GUY PLAY’D EVERY DOWN TO THE WHISTLE AND BEYOND.
December 30th, 2010 at 6:51 am
Chester McGlockton is a defensive intern and The Wiz is a strength and conditioning intern
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Raiders current staff:
Offensive Assistant – Eric Sanders
Defensive Assistant – Mike Clark
buh bye !!!
December 30th, 2010 at 6:57 am
Yup…The “Real” #76! He was a badass!
LOL @ Rockstar!
Trade Brad Roll for The Wiz!
December 30th, 2010 at 6:57 am
By Jason Cole
Looking ahead to the free-agent class of 2011 is a precarious issue because of the lack of a collective bargaining agreement. There are a number of labor related scenarios that could happen:
First, owners could follow through on their threat to lock out players, meaning that free agency wouldn’t begin until a new agreement was negotiated. Even then, players could put a wrench in that if they were allowed to decertify the union.
Second, owners could continue to negotiate with players during the offseason, using the current rules (no salary cap and six years to unrestricted free agency) of the CBA until either a new agreement is reached or there is impasse (in which case the owners could invoke their last offer).
Third, there could be a strike.
Fourth, the sides could reach an agreement by March, which would likely mean a system similar to the previous rules (a salary cap and four years to unrestricted free agency).
With that in mind, here’s a look at the top potential free agents broken into three categories. The first is the players with at least six years, who will almost assuredly be unrestricted free agents regardless of what happens with the CBA. Then there is a list of players with five years experience and with four years experience.
Under the previous rules, players in all three categories would have a shot at unrestricted free agency:
December 30th, 2010 at 6:59 am
WHAT WAS GALLERY’S # HIS 1ST YEAR? WAS IT 74..B4 HE SWITCHED
December 30th, 2010 at 7:01 am
I hope they reach an agreement b4 the SB!
What would we all do without football on Sundays and Monday Night? LOL
December 30th, 2010 at 7:02 am
I think he asked Wiz if he could wear 76 and The Wiz said that he better wear it proudly! So I believe he was always 76…
December 30th, 2010 at 7:05 am
Does any feel Cable cost us two wins with the back and forth qb shuffle so early in the season? Guys we could have made the play offs with some better line coaching and decision on LT. Hell When campbell got killed in the preseason vs SF I thought then maybe we should try someone else. How about the crazy Center situation vs Tenn?
December 30th, 2010 at 7:06 am
SIX-YEAR (OR MORE) CLUB
1. QB Peyton Manning – He can name his price with the Colts and he will (Manning doesn’t do discounts). The worst-case scenario is that he gets slapped with the exclusive franchise tag.
2. QB Michael Vick – Vick and agent Joel Segal are dreaming about a $15 million a year deal. Based on Vick’s play, he’s worth it. Based on his past, yikes. This is going to be a tough one, meaning the franchise tag is probably coming.
3. G Logan Mankins – Great offensive linemen don’t often get to free agency. When they do, they’re expensive. Mankins could be the first interior lineman to make $10 million per year.
4. WR Vincent Jackson – San Diego’s passing game without him and his off-field issues will give teams reason for pause. When they actually see him and talk to him, they’ll pay. He can ball and he’s very bright. More than $9 million a year is a lock.
5. DL Richard Seymour – Somebody is going to pay handsomely for the 31-year-old Seymour, who is having a terrific season. He’s really good, but has a tendency to play on cruise control.
6. CB Ike Taylor – When cornerbacks hit the market, they get paid. That’s just the way it is. Taylor, 30, isn’t great (11 picks in eight seasons), but he’s a good one and he can run.
7. LB Barrett Ruud – Ruud was miffed in training camp when Tampa Bay extended LT Donald Penn before they extended him. Sorry, Barrett, but that’s the reality of left tackles and inside linebackers. Ruud is very good and still young, but he would be best served re-signing with a team that knows his limitations.
8. WR Randy Moss – His value on the open market is going to be interesting. Is a team going to pay a lot on the belief he’ll play to the big deal or will the 33-year-old receiver be forced to play on a make-good contract?
9. CB Champ Bailey – Again, cornerbacks get paid and there is little question that Champ Bailey is better than Taylor. However, Bailey is two years older and has had a run of nagging injuries.
10. WR Terrell Owens – At 35, Owens is proving he can still put up great numbers. Whether he can help a team win is debatable. Then again, it’s hard to blame him when he plays for the Bangles.
Other notables: WR Braylon Edwards, LB Shawne Merriman, RB Cedric Benson, S Quintin Mikell, OT Matt Light, DT Pat Williams and RB Ricky Williams.
FIVE-YEAR CLUB
1. CB Johnathan Joseph – Don’t expect a down year by the Bengals defense to impact Joseph’s value. The franchise tag beckons for a guy who can both cover and lay the wood.
2. NT Haloti Ngata – Pure beast. He’s one of those rare players you look at and say, “How in the world do I attack that?” He also picked a good year to have nearly as many sacks (five in nine games) as he had in his first four years (6.5).
3. LB Tamba Hali – He’s not only one of the great stories of the NFL (his escape from his native Liberia is the stuff of movies), but he’s a very good pass rusher having a great year. Emphasis on “very good.” He’s not great, but even “very good” pass rushers get paid.
4. DE Ray Edwards – Where Hali has to be an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defense, Edwards is purely a left defensive end in a 4-3. There’s nothing wrong with that, but he’s more of a complementary piece than a guy who stirs the drink.
5. LB Chad Greenway – An absolute tackling machine. Has 92 in the first nine games this season. Has also shown pass rush skill in the past with 5.5 sacks in 2008.
6. DL/LB Mathias Kiwanuka – After getting four sacks in the first three games, Kiwanuka suffered a herniated disc in his neck. This is an example of why free agency needs to be after four years. It would be a shame if he’s healthy and gets stuck as a restricted free agent.
7. RB DeAngelo Williams – He had one magnificent season with 1,515 yards rushing and 20 touchdowns scored in 2008. He’s out for the rest of this season (he played in six games) with a foot sprain. Will have to be healthy to get paid.
8. G Davin Joseph – He’s a very good guard, but a notch below Logan Mankins. He’s the type of player who gets paid because of scarcity, not necessarily talent. On the open market, he’ll do very well, perhaps as much as $8 million a year.
9. TE Marcedes Lewis – Picked a great year to realize his vast talent. But tight ends generally don’t get paid and he could be heading for the franchise tag with the penurious Jags.
10. TE Owen Daniels – Before his knee injury, he was a pass-catching machine bound for elite status. The return has been slow and painful.
Other notable: WR Santonio Holmes.
FOUR-YEAR CLUB
1. LB LaMarr Woodley – Critics say he’s not great against the run or in coverage. But when you’re projected to average more than 10 sacks in three straight seasons, you get paid. That’s the bottom line.
2. LB David Harris – Stout, sure-tackler with just enough pass rush ability from the inside to be dangerous. He’s going to make some serious money soon.
3. CB Eric Wright – Like Ike Taylor, Wright is a good corner at a time when even the very good become the very rich (See: Robinson, Dunta). Wright has better ball-hawking skills than Taylor, so that will put him at a higher premium.
4. WR Steve Smith – The Giants’ version is an incredibly versatile wideout, capable of being a terrific third-down guy and a good deep threat. Great hands, great route runner.
5. TE Zach Miller – Always good, but is having a career year now that the Raiders offense is competent.
6. WR Sidney Rice – Sitting out the year won’t hurt him as much as some might believe. He’s a monster target and a big-play threat. Another guy likely to be franchised.
7. RB Ahmad Bradshaw – The little back that could. He plays extraordinarily hard and can hit big plays if defenses aren’t careful. He has a bad attitude, but that’s part of his talent.
8. OT Doug Free – Workmanlike left tackle who will never look like much under the eyeball test. But he can play and competent offensive linemen get paid.
9. S Eric Weddle – Some people prefer Dashon Goldson, but Weddle has been more consistent. Probably will never be a star, but he’s the glue of a defense.
10. S Dashon Goldson – Has flashed ball-hawking skills and is considered very bright.
Other notables: LB Stewart Bradley, DL Paul Soliai, LB Paul Posluszny, TE Kevin Boss
December 30th, 2010 at 7:06 am
We need to still get a coach and gm and draft and sign linemen 1st then get a qb in later of draft or trade for someone. We play in the afc west and it showed
December 30th, 2010 at 7:11 am
bummer for the Jags if the Colts lose to the Titans on Sunday, because they have NO SHOT to beat Houston without David Garrard …
December 30th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Bcz24
You actually won Dell’s League…
There was some sortf of adjustment in the scoring and you ended up beating me by 1 point.
Well done man.
December 30th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Later.
December 30th, 2010 at 7:18 am
I don’t think that the Colts are gonna lose to Tenn, though…not at home…
December 30th, 2010 at 7:20 am
[...] all expected a little bit more,” Asomugha said, per the Oakland Tribune. “We all expected to be in the playoffs. That was our theme coming into the season; that was [...]
December 30th, 2010 at 7:21 am
good morning raider nation!
December 30th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Morning Ray!
December 30th, 2010 at 7:25 am
Last game of the year…then a couple more weeks of cheering just for the game itself then … boredom for a while!
December 30th, 2010 at 7:35 am
a couple more weeks of cheering just for the game itself
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I’ll be cheering for the Chiefs to lose.
then the Patriots, Steelers & Saints to lose (in that order)
as long as 1 of these 4 teams doesn’t win the big one, I’m cool with it
December 30th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Read the Broncos might be interested in Hue Jackson. If thats the case Big Al will fire Cable and hire Hue just to keep him away from Denver.
December 30th, 2010 at 7:47 am
the Donks have went with offensive minded HC’s the last 3 times Shanny, McDaniels & interim guy Stutesman
I hope they switch it up and go defensive so we don’t have to worry about Gruden, Jackson, Cable or Garrett.
Maybe they’ll settle for Rob Ryan, Perry Fewell, John Fox or Leslie Frazier?
December 30th, 2010 at 7:52 am
Why are people in here talking about Andrew Luck? He is a lock for number 1 pick….we dont even have a first round pick as of right now. If people in here want to talk about drafting a QB, better get your mind wrapped around Mallett or the kid from Nevada. Both will probably be there in the second. Mallett maybe even late first, would probably have to trade up to get him. DEEP QB class this year, but like any year NOBODY knows who will pan out and who will be a bust.
December 30th, 2010 at 7:57 am
Who do you want to win the SB? Atlanta? Philly?
I agree with you though…KC must get destroyed the weekend of Jan 9. 10…
December 30th, 2010 at 8:01 am
If I’m in the NFC I wouldnt wanna see the Packers on the other side of the field right now. Could be looking at a Packers, Pats Super Bowl.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:05 am
Hwnrdr:
AFC – Ravens, Jets, Colts
NFC – Falcons, Bears, Eagles
in that order
note: the Packers, Giants & Bucs are all 9-6 and one of those teams will enter as the sixth seed. Of these 3 it’d be cool to see the Packers go imo
December 30th, 2010 at 8:06 am
Just to reply to someone’s reply to me about it being the wrong thing to do to let Cable go after us going 6-0….
I don’t think Cable had much affect in our improvement this year. It was all Hue Jackson and the offense. We are pretty much the same team defensively as last season, but the huge change was we no longer were scoring like 7 pts a game but 20 or so. Hue is still going thru growing pains calling plays, he made blunders, getting too cute, straying from things, etc.
If we’re going to lose Hue Jackson, we’d have to get a very good OC under Cable. Again, Cable isn’t the key. If we don’t get a good OC, retaining Cable is like going back to the 2009 season again. Cable did a lot of good things, and is a good personality that suits the Raiders, but he can still only take us so far.
Cable + a Mike Leach or Marc Trestman as OC would be an idea if we lost Jackson.
Question then…
Would you all rather retain Cable as HC but lose Jackson. Or promote Jackson to HC and lose Cable??
December 30th, 2010 at 8:09 am
if Hue Jackson gets a Head Coaching gig elsewhere? good for him. he earned it
if that happens I’d like to hire Childress & Phillips as my coordinators (they aren’t going to get HC offers). Retain Cable and let the X’s & O’s guys do thier thing
it worked for KC bringing in proven coaches that couldn’t cut it at the HC level (Weis & Crennel)
December 30th, 2010 at 8:12 am
the idea that teams are so beat up after playing the Raiders that they’re useless in the next games may not hold true in every case but it certainly does with the Jags. MJones-Drew and Garrard haven’t been the same since.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:19 am
Retain Cable and let the X’s & O’s guys do their thing
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That’s the thing. Key part the X&O guys. Cable as a figure-head and someone who can work with Al…with the engine really being the OC/DC. As long as we get coaches who are renowned and relevant. Not the Gilbrides etc.
My point as you intimated too, is that it’s the X&O guys at OC/DC that will make a difference in Oakland. Cable per se isn’t the reason for our improvement this season.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:21 am
Would you all rather retain Cable as HC but lose Jackson. Or promote Jackson to HC and lose Cable??
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GG,
good position coaches & coordinators often flop as Head Coaches. the players want Cable back and he obviously has the ability to work with Al Davis. It’s easier to find OC’s & Dc’s than it is HC’s – especially for a team like Oakland.
it was Hue Jax’s decision to bench Campbell for Gradkowski. He went ultra conservative in some games and had a few head scratching play calls in each game throughout the season. Not sure i’m sold on him as my Head Coach.
OC? fine – but even then he’s got to turn it on every week.
Scoring points had more to do with Al Davis than Hue’s offense imo.
Who kicked Russell, Walker, Fargas & Green off the team? Who drafted Veldheer & Ford and traded for Campbell?
December 30th, 2010 at 8:31 am
Russell, J Walker, Fargas & Green = gone last year
Gradkowski, L Walker, Bennett & Nmiller = gone this year
NO MORE SCRUBS!
December 30th, 2010 at 8:32 am
I love Raider fans……glad they and the Chiefs are back……Hope you give us a good PRACTICE game. Damdecent of you folks to help us prepare for
….THE PLAY OFFS….!!!!!!
Be prepared to be Kansas City STRIPPED of your undefeated AFC ” thank you for participating ” trophy…
GET MAD RAIDER NATION GET MAD…..
December 30th, 2010 at 8:35 am
I love Raider fans……glad they and the Chiefs are back
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Terry,
Oakland beat KC last time without Nnamdi Asomugha & Zach Miller. plus Rolando McClain only played the first quarter
what do you think a HEALTHY Oakland team is going to do this week with Cable’s job on the line and KC having nothing to play for?
December 30th, 2010 at 8:42 am
Chiefs getting better every game and
it is at ARROWHEAD…..gotta be there to know….
….Marty Sottenhiemer and all the old RAIDER beaters will be there to cheer on the PLAY-OFF team…..
December 30th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Rockstar,
you mentioned your thoughts that HueJack had less to do with the Raiders’ resurgence than ol’ Uncle Al. if that’s the case plus the fact that AD says he checks this blog thereby coming across your words…is HueJack a goner? It’s all on your head if it comes to that.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:47 am
Rockstar,
why don’t you mosey over from Podunk to KC for the game? You and Terry can have a throwdown in the parking lot.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Of course Al had an impact on why this offense improved. But really it was Hue Jackson. McFadden, for instance, was on this team before Hue arrived. When we had different OCs. But immediately Hue made an impact in Oakland. He did do a lot of different things, and spiced it up, utilized players better. He wasn’t a genius, not saying that, but we finally had someone capable in the role compared to previous OC’s the last 5 years, and the impact was immediate on his arrival.
Al drafted Reece. But Hue made him effective, brought him into the gameplan, found ways to utilize him, McFadden, Ford, etc etc.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:53 am
Marc Trestman as OC would be an idea if we lost Jackson.
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Not really. Trestman wont even interview HC positions, why would he go back to Oakland as a coordinator?
December 30th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Oakland beat KC last time without Nnamdi Asomugha & Zach Miller. plus Rolando McClain only played the first quarter
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LOL funny seeing you type that Rock… that last line specifically.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Anyway, RR, the thing is, I’m agreeing with you anyway. Cable is good as a pep-talking go-between for Al who can work well with him etc. But he’s expendable, replaceable. The real work is being done at OC/DC, especially as you say, in Oakland in our system and GM/Owner being Davis post-Gruden/Allen.
I agree that Jackson may not make a good HC, they often dont. But he might also. Remember all those JerryMac blogs from training camp about how vocal and drill sargent Jackson was? As if professional players wouldn’t/don’t respond just as well to those types as they might to Cable rah-rah types.
Like i said too…if we lose Jackson to Cincinnati, and retain Cable, that’s ok if we do get ourselves renowned proven X&O guys at DC/OC.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:59 am
is HueJack a goner? It’s all on your head if it comes to that.
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LOL @ M
let it be so!
December 30th, 2010 at 9:03 am
GG,
McFadden’s “arrival” had more to do with staying healthy and getting Justin Fargas out of the RB rotation imo. Hue didn’t make DMAC great.
Marcel Reece went undrafted and the Dolphins gave him a look in 2008 before we did. He was a FB before Hue Jackson came to town, just came off the practice squad for the final 2 games of 2009 after Lawton was suspended
December 30th, 2010 at 9:05 am
2009 – 17 TDs for the season.
2010 – 12 TDs in two games against the Donks
December 30th, 2010 at 9:06 am
Another example…
Al always likes offensive-minded HCs, who can call their own plays, and be responsible for the whole offense, while Davis can separate from that to be more attached to the defensive side of the team and the DC.
Cable isn’t that type. 2009 was evidence of that. He failed and for the sake of keeping the players happy and trying to maintain some consistency, also appreciative of Cable himself, how he doesn’t rock the boat like Kiffin, can work with Al, then Al kept him on as long as he delegated the whole offense and play-calling to an OC.
So if you take away Cable, that HC job is still a position Al would naturally want filled by an offensive-minded X&O coach who can run it all and do all the play-calling.
Whilst Jackson is still on training wheels, he at least does fit that HC as OC role. It’s feasible for Al to get rid of the middle-man (Cable) in order to retain Jackson on staff. Al might be ecstatic with Jackson, be really excited about his potential as a HC/OC. He’s still developing and Al might think he has a high ceiling to lose to Cincinnati.
The players at least know Hue know and respect like him. They’re professionals and would adjust and be comfortable with Hue as HC if Cable left. Not like the players are gonna stand in the corner and refuse to work in 2011 if Cable left.
December 30th, 2010 at 9:07 am
funny seeing you type that Rock… that last line specifically
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BCZ,
most of you guys think the Run Defense is better with McClain in at MLB than Ricky Brown. Correct?
well if they couldn’t run it on us with Brown (undrafted) then they sure better not be able to do it with our Top 10 MLB in there!
… but i’m sure if Charles/Jones combine for 200+ rushing yards you guys will find a way to blame it all on Tyvon Branch or Quentin Groves, LOL
December 30th, 2010 at 9:08 am
The Raiders will have a problem consistently stopping the run as long as they coach a defensive scheme that does not emphasize gap discipline.
The way it is now, all four defensive linemen are primarily pass rushers. Their goal is to shed the offensive linemen and get to the QB. On running plays, you see the entire defense trying to converge on the ball carrier. This is why good cutback runners usually have big days against the Raiders. They get the entire defense going in one direction, and then with one move cut back upfield into a lot of empty space.
It’s a scheme that is effective when it works, but when it doesn’t the result is usually a big play (sound familiar?).
Personnel-wise, the Raiders aren’t going to do much better than what they already have on the defensive line. If the Raiders really want to become more consistent in stopping the run, they’re going to need to become more disciplined, and start playing as a team instead of freelancing.
December 30th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Who got Fargas out of the HB rotation? Hue. The guy who Al just gave the keys to the car and said “the offense is yours”.
Who got McFadden better utilized? Hue.
Who got Reece into the starting line-up and schemed him to play a focal role on offense, utilizing his H-back skills? Hue.
Cable didn’t do it last year. Nor did Knapp or Kiffin.
December 30th, 2010 at 9:10 am
if we lose Jackson to Cincinnati, and retain Cable, that’s ok if we do get ourselves renowned proven X&O guys at DC/OC.
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good point man. If we lose Hue Jackson and we get Tollner or Hackett to replace him as play caller, we might as well pack it in!
December 30th, 2010 at 9:15 am
Hue Jackson was hired on Jan 26th and Fargas was dumped on March 6th … if you think thats all Hue’s doing, be my guest
I still think Al Davis makes all the roster moves in Oakland. draftee & free agent alike
December 30th, 2010 at 9:28 am
Al makes the moves, but if Hue says to Al, I dont want Fargas, and explains his vision and why etc, then Al will pull the trigger. Al has confirmed that’s how he operates when discussing Kiffin’s firing. Also, Hue acknowledged he spent a ton of time when first hired looking over tape, assessing his roster etc. Why he was off-limit to the media for so long.
December 30th, 2010 at 9:45 am
Al makes the moves, but if Hue says to Al, I dont want Fargas, and explains his vision and why etc, then Al will pull the trigger.
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not sold on this theory. did Kiffin want Russell?
all the defensive coaches & coordinators since 2003 wanted Sam Williams?
Gruden wanted a kicker in Round 1?
December 30th, 2010 at 9:47 am
Hue Jackson got his first OC job at USC, under head coach Paul Hackett.
If Paul replaces a departed Hue, I’ sure there would be very little difference.
December 30th, 2010 at 9:47 am
not sold on this theory. did Kiffin want Russell?
all the defensive coaches & coordinators since 2003 wanted Sam Williams?
Gruden wanted a kicker in Round 1?
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It doesn’t mean Al listens all the time. He listens when he wants to. Sometimes the coaches can sway him, sometimes Al has his own ideas.
But everything filters through Al, and Al makes the final call.
December 30th, 2010 at 9:49 am
With Kiffin, I don’t think Al ever really liked the fact that he had to settle for hiring him when every other coaching candidate fell through.
I think part of the reason Al listens to Hue a little more than he has to previous coaches is because Al thinks he made a great coaching hire.
December 30th, 2010 at 9:53 am
Fair enough you’re not sold, but there’s evidence/history of it. Each situation/coach is different too. He might loosen the reigns the more he has faith in that coach’s ability.
Anyway, Hue is a far bigger loss to Oakland (if he goes) than Cable.
Put yourself in Al’s shoes, sitting there up in the luxury box, watching game after game. What Al saw this season was an offense led by Hue Jackson that broke a ton of franchise and NFL records. That was FINALLY getting it’s groove. After suffering years of seeing putrid offenses, here’s Al sitting in his box and saying to himself, “i got me a winner”.
Meanwhile, he’s seeing the defense is pretty much the same as the last 5 years, signs of improvement, better players, some better coaching here and there, but still now wowing.
Imo, Al would be ecstatic with Hue, and the potential for further improvement on offense being a high ceiling.
Imo, Al’s thinking—if Cincinnati don’t make a move for Hue, keeping Cable-Hue together is do-able. But due to the possibility of Hue leaving, then I cant let this guy go.
December 30th, 2010 at 9:54 am
JUSTIN BLACKMON IS THE TRUTH
December 30th, 2010 at 9:54 am
I find it humorous that popular wisdom holds BParcells to be some kind of great franchise builder. He won a couple of smashmouth titles with the Gints yes. Got to the big dance with the Patsies. The Jets did nothing under him. The Cowpies still have only one playoff victory since Rockstar was in gradeschool (and it weren’t BillyBoy got ‘er done). And ‘Fins are ready to axe the Sparano regime, hand-picked by BP, after going 1-7 at home. This popular wisdom seems more like myth.
December 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am
Yeah, I’ve never bought into the Parcells hype. His Jets teams were awful.
December 30th, 2010 at 10:04 am
Cowher is an under-achiever then. Only 2 super bowl appearances between 20 years, and the second the Seahawks rorted out of it. 20 years and a million division titles.
Parcells is not an under-achiever compared to Cowher. He may not be a genius, but he certainly knows his stuff.
Why, if both Parcells and Cowher are to be considered over-rated, do people still wish they came to Oakland? Because those guys, and the likes of Vermeil, Schottenheimer, etc, are very very good at what they do, and often do it from team to team, (Cowher yet to do that). Compare them to how many hundreds of HC’s bust.
People can say the same about Gruden….but people still wish for him. There are no such things as absolute godly HCs in the NFL like Phil Jackson that just win like 10 super bowls in 20 years.
December 30th, 2010 at 10:09 am
names like Parcells & Cowher are wasted on this blog. those guys are about as likely to come here as Peyton Manning in free agency next season …
Jon Gruden has a healthy respect for Al Davis, but #1 Does he want to get back into coaching? and #2 what other offers would he get?
December 30th, 2010 at 10:14 am
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_16969236
December 30th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Not saying Cowher/Parcells are realistic candidates, but trying to point out how so many thousands of Raider fans dream of them being here. People will disparage them as over-rated etc, but they dream inside. And let’s say either of them was reported as the new Raider HC, you’d see those same people jumping for joy.
Why? Because they’re very good HCs. Billions of HCs bust in the NFL every year. People have some unrealistic notion that top HCs win 10 super bowls in 20 years.
December 30th, 2010 at 10:16 am
GG,
even with an in-house promotion, another coaching change in Oakland destroys whatever hope this team had of turning the corner and building something. Players love Cable and his no nonsense approach. He tells it like it is and he’s pretty animated.
Al Davis is a players owner. He will listen to them moreso than any coach. If Tom Cable has full player support and we go 6-0 against the AFC West, Al Davis would be a friggin douchebag to every player in that locker room
Hue Jackson as HC of the Oakland Raiders = 4-12 next year and Tom Cable will be a Head Coach elsewhere and finish with a better record
Print That
December 30th, 2010 at 10:22 am
new post!
December 30th, 2010 at 10:26 am
Ok. But my money is on Hue as HC, Cable let go. Especially if hue is courted by Cincinnati. Tom Cable wont be an NFL HC elsewhere.
Look at how many coaching changes are gonna happen for 2011, and how many big names are likely to return, and how many recently let go HCs could be in the interview circuit…
Parcells, Cowher, Gruden, Lewis, Kubiak, Garrett, Frazier, Sparano, Coughlin, Phillips, etc. Cable is not a hot commodity in that field?
December 30th, 2010 at 10:26 am
On Mallett:
this one is hard to call. He has a cannon for an arm, but does have accuracy issues at times. His accuracy percentages are improved this season over last, but a lot of that has to do with Bobby Petrino’s system. Mallett is not mobile — not talking about dual-threat here, just stating that he has difficulty moving in or out of the pocket. He reportedly has a good understanding of sophisticated offenses, but he doesn’t execute that understanding consistently. He has improved from 2009 to 2010, so there was progress, but I also question his mental toughness and ability to lead a team based on his maturity level NOW. Not saying he can’t improve in that area, but it remains to be seen.
December 30th, 2010 at 10:32 am
From what I’ve seen, Luck is the best QB in college football.
Newton looks like the kind of pick that will either be GREAT or DISASTROUS if he goes in the first half of the first round. He won a junior-college national championship last year and is playing for the D-1 title in a week, so he must be doing something right. Reminds me a lot of Vince Young.
Gabbert is getting a lot of attention right now, but that spread offense doesn’t really show enough of what kind of downfield or intermediate passer he is, and I’d be interested to see how he handles taking snaps behind center since they don’t do that at Missouri (same questions about Newton regarding center-QB exchange).
If I was ranking them, I’d have it Luck, Mallett, Locker, Gabbert, Newton.
December 30th, 2010 at 10:33 am
RockStar right on
I think Q Groves has been a terrible addition too. He is still completely lost out there after 15 games
WLB with a grand total of 36 tackles The LB that we all thought was afraid of contact (T. Howard) had 79 tackles last year. Over 2 times as many
How about this stat for our great LB trio
McClain, Groves and Wimbley all year 1 FORCED FUMBLE & 1 PICK
Check this out: Ricky Brown and Jon Condo 3 FORCED FUMBLES and 0 Picks
How about them apples
December 30th, 2010 at 10:40 am
Raiders at Chiefs
Florio’s take: Anyone who thinks this game is meaningless doesn’t understand the depth of the rivalry between the franchises. The Chiefs need to maintain momentum, and they’d love to atone for close loss in Oakland from earlier in the year. The Raiders are on their way, but they’re not yet ready to win at Arrowhead.
Florio’s pick: Chiefs 20, Raiders 13.
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Has this dumbfk ever watched a Raider-Chiefs game? Jamarcus kicked KC’s ass at Arrowhed the last two years. And Culpepper beat them there in 2007. THREE STRAIGHT FLORIO!
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