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Still no Seymour

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 29th, 2010 at 10:20 am in Oakland Raiders.

No sign of Richard Seymour as the Raiders started practice earlier than usual Wednesday.

Everyone else was accounted for, including right tackle Langston Walker, who was wearing a helmet and appeared to be getting ready to work with the first team. Walker missed the Indianapolis game, still suffering from the effects of a concussion.

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202 Responses to “Still no Seymour”

  1. carnitas Says:

    1st

  2. Dakota Says:

    Mort reported that Cable is probably safe with the Raiders….so now Al will certainly fire him no matter the outcome this weekend.

  3. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Pouncey at center would be nice. He will be as good as his brother. I hope they give Bruce Campbell some playing time this week. Get his feet wet so to speak so we will have something else to talk about this off season, which starts this monday…

  4. ELWAYs TEETH Says:

    Seymour is saving himself for the ProBowl.

  5. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Mort couldn’t predict a fart at bean eating contest…

  6. Mansti Tyson Says:

    Mort is a professional liar.

  7. Dakota Says:

    Bill Parcells is meeting with the 49ers and will be their new GM and head coach!

    WOW!!!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5966114

  8. YoungAmerican Says:

    I really hope McFadden, Ware, and Campbell are active this weekend.

  9. Mansti Tyson Says:

    7.Dakota Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 10:29 am
    Bill Parcells is meeting with the 49ers and will be their new GM and head coach!

    WOW!!!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5966114

    ——————-

    Looks like you are now the “Professional Liar”

    Parcells is only consulting the 9ers on what they should do etc… Come on dikota.

  10. Mansti Tyson Says:

    Cable needs at LEAST another two years. Then lets see what happens.

  11. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Little premature there Dakota… lol

  12. Mansti Tyson Says:

    11.No Mas Diamante Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 10:34 am
    Little premature there Dakota… lol

    ————————————

    He is used to that, dikota is all about premature and immature…

  13. Mansti Tyson Says:

    Just ask his boyfriend..

  14. Dakota Says:

    With his job hanging in the balance why would Tom Cable give playing time to a bunch of scrubs or young players?

    If he doesn’t win this weekend he is gone, so any evaluation time that might give him on those players is pretty useless to The Buffoon.

    Cable seems to luck into end of year wins that keep him around….first it was Bush and a Cadillac injury that bailed him out in TB, then last year he beat Steelers and Broncos teams that were already crashing and burning.

    This year Cable gets to play a KC team that has little motivation to give their best effort, so Cable might scratch out an 8-8 season having played the majority of the games against weak ass AFC and NFC West opponents.

  15. M Lonetree Says:

    anyone know a site that gives comprehensive stats about DBs – # of times thrown at, completions allowed, yards allowed, TDs allowed etc.?

  16. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Trade DMAC for Bill Parcells!

  17. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Looks like Parcells is only being consulted by SF regarding another GM candidate, Dakota. But I like the idea of SF flirting with the Parcells tree, because that’s only going to put a fire under Al’s ass to do the same.

  18. Dakota Says:

    15.M Lonetree Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 10:38 am
    anyone know a site that gives comprehensive stats about DBs – # of times thrown at, completions allowed, yards allowed, TDs allowed etc.?
    ++++++++++++

    Here you go M!

    http://funnyfact.com/peanut-butter-then-jelly/

  19. Mansti Tyson Says:

    Dikota if you are so right about Cable, who should and would replace him then genious?

  20. Dakota Says:

    Oh that’s right, I forgot….Tom Cable is irreplaceable! No one could do a better coaching job than Tom Cable!

    LMAO

    Outside of Bugel, White, Shell, Lal or Rob Ryan, just pick a name of any coach and that guy is likely to be a better HC than The Buffoon.

  21. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Good point, Tyson. I mean, there’s NOBODY on the planet better than Cable.

  22. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And before you bring up John Madden…remember, Al Davis didn’t hand pick John Madden. Madden, then an assistant coach, volunteered for the job after John Rauch left and nobody wanted it. Al asked the assistants who wanted the HC job, and John stepped up. John was rewarded for his loyalty. Al didn’t hand pick him out of some kind of keen eye for coaching talent.

  23. Mansti Tyson Says:

    RMR if I wanted to hear anything out of you I would have farted.

  24. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A fart would have been more intelligent than your point that Cable is irreplaceable.

  25. Mansti Tyson Says:

    Hey Jackhole, where did I say “Cable is irreplaceable”

    Talk about intelligence you fking MORON.

  26. Mansti Tyson Says:

    COME on RMR, where did I say that, point it out?

  27. Mansti Tyson Says:

    Im waiting RMR

  28. Dakota Says:

    Give me Russ Grimm, Perry Fewell, Harbaugh, Hue Jackson, Marty Mornhingweg, Brian Billick, Nolan Cromwell, Ron Rivera, Mike Mularkey, Leslie Frazier….the list could go on and on…

  29. Mansti Tyson Says:

    Or is it beause I DIDNT say “Cable is irreplaceable”

    You assume to much you dumb padawan.

  30. J Hill Says:

    Brandon Lloyd a pro bowl WR????

    Cmon DHB, that spot is right there waiting for you!

  31. Mansti Tyson Says:

    28.Dakota Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:00 am
    Give me Russ Grimm, Perry Fewell, Harbaugh, Hue Jackson, Marty Mornhingweg, Brian Billick, Nolan Cromwell, Ron Rivera, Mike Mularkey, Leslie Frazier….the list could go on and on…

    ——————

    Guaranteed not ONE on your “list” would accept the job, or even entertain an offer..

  32. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Getting rid of Cable would be a huge setback….Im not saying he’s the best coach out there or he’s a football genius…Just that the chemistry on this team would go down the drain..The players on this team trust him and do what he says…Cable is like the Uncle Buck of Coaching

  33. BadMoodGuy Says:

    Trolls gotta troll. Don’t fall for it.

    BAN THE TROLLS!

  34. Mansti Tyson Says:

    32.PurpleDrank81 Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:01 am
    Getting rid of Cable would be a huge setback….Im not saying he’s the best coach out there or he’s a football genius…Just that the chemistry on this team would go down the drain..The players on this team trust him and do what he says…Cable is like the Uncle Buck of Coaching

    ——————————————————-

    Why trust the players or continuity? They certainly don’t know as much about this Raiders team as some loser pawn shop worker in Crap Dakota, and a loser pimple faced homo living in his moms basement who calls himself The RealMaddenRaider…

  35. Mansti Tyson Says:

    Dikota and RMR certainly know more about football and the Raiders than the players themselves… better recognize.

  36. J Hill Says:

    Is Philly really all in on Mike Vick?

    What are they going to do with Kolb.

  37. Mansti Tyson Says:

    36.J Hill Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:07 am
    Is Philly really all in on Mike Vick?

    What are they going to do with Kolb.

    —————-

    Who knows, but guranteed Vick will screw up again somehow some way… He is just not a good guy, doesn’t have a functioning brain. Too bad really..

    Personally I don’t think Kolb is all that…..

  38. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Mansti Tyson Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:08 am

    He is just not a good guy, doesn’t have a functioning brain.

    ………..

    Now, you wouldn’t like it if someone said that about you.

  39. Dakota Says:

    Yeah trust the players Al, like you did when you hired Bugel at their behest…I mean the players love the Cable!
    First thing he did as HC was to stop that mean Kiffin ploy of making them practice plays until they got them right, I mean who would want that? Then he instituted the patty-cake training camps, who can’t use a dance class or two? And he only throws drug addicted QBs and job threatening coordinators under the bus….now that is loyalty!

    Cable is a joke and any fan that wants him to remain is simply a poor soul who has been so disillusioned by the past 7 years that they have lost sight of the fact that there is something better than bad to mediocre coaching….which they call for in the name of continuity.

    Pathetic.

  40. J Hill Says:

    Chemistry?

    What chemistry?

    We’re still a bad football team. Easiest schedule in years and we still miss the playoffs choking style.

  41. Dakota Says:

    The players loved Rob Ryan too….pizza parties, no accountability.

    Yeah, let the players choose their coaches lol.

  42. Dakota Says:

    Oh I forgot, Cable once let the players use a day of practice to practice their TD celebrations.

    Gotta love that!

  43. Mansti Tyson Says:

    RMR you said you supported Cable and you approved of the changes he made this year, so why are you backtracking now?

  44. Thec07 Says:

    the Tom cable issues you could make a compelling argument either way. no matter what happens at KC he will be the HC of the 2011 Raiders…

  45. RaiderRockstar Says:

    guranteed Vick will screw up again somehow some way… He is just not a good guy, doesn’t have a functioning brain. Too bad really..

    ***

    Vick will get a long term deal somewhere and he’ll get the opportunity to pay back his debtors from bankruptcy. He’ll probably try to do the “good guy thing” by making a donation to charity as well, more than likely a animal shelter, humane society or PETA

    not sure the whole Ron Mexico thing is behind him, but the dog fighting sure is and he’s been playing some great football this season, hence the Pro Bowl re-birth

  46. Mansti Tyson Says:

    RMR you publicly stated on this blog that you liked Cable and hoped Al would do the right thing and bring him back next year, so why are you changing now?

    You like the taste of a loser pawn shop works nutz?

  47. Thec07 Says:

    guranteed Vick will screw up again somehow some way… He is just not a good guy, doesn’t have a functioning brain. Too bad really..

    +++++++++++++

    Highly disagree with this statement… Athleticism aside you too can be an NFL QB right??? that position does not
    take any amount of cerebral usage right????

  48. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Contract Information for Kevin Kolb

    4/29/2010: Signed a two-year, $12.25 million contract. The deal, fully guaranteed, included a $10.7 million signing bonus. 2010: $715,000, 2011: $1.392 million, 2012: Free Agent

    ***

    if we traded a 2012 3rd rounder for him, would we be on the hook for part of that signing bonus or just the $1.4 mil salary?

  49. Thec07 Says:

    We’re still a bad football team. Easiest schedule in years and we still miss the playoffs choking style.
    ++++++++

    Still very young in a lot of key positions, should experience a re-birth of th NATION and show improvement…

  50. ottocrat Says:

    Truth is, Al Davis hasn’t made up his mind yet. Whenever he has a tough decision to make, he always makes it a point to fill up his diaper, dump the dump, and read the skid marks as if they were tea leaves. That process was instrumental in his decision to draft DHB.

  51. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Doesnt matter who the Coach is because this is Al’s show…Not that I agree with the stuff Al does all the time but this is his circus and he’s the ring leader

  52. Mansti Tyson Says:

    50.ottocrat Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Truth is, Al Davis hasn’t made up his mind yet. Whenever he has a tough decision to make, he always makes it a point to fill up his diaper, dump the dump, and read the skid marks as if they were tea leaves. That process was instrumental in his decision to draft DHB.

    ——————-

    HAHAHAHAHA, wow that was funny, how long did it take you to come up with that one? You are a real comedian…

    I bet you kick over people in wheelchairs too right?

  53. Mike Davis 36 Says:

    50.ottocrat Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Truth is, Al Davis hasn’t made up his mind yet. Whenever he has a tough decision to make, he always makes it a point to fill up his diaper, dump the dump, and read the skid marks as if they were tea leaves. That process was instrumental in his decision to draft DHB.

    __________________________________________
    Actually, I think he scrapes your lip off his zipper, and reads THAT….which is how he picked Jacoby Ford.

  54. RaiderRockstar Says:

    this is Al’s show…Not that I agree with the stuff Al does all the time but this is his circus and he’s the ring leader

    ***

    Cable & Jackson = Barnum & Bailey ???

    Tollner & Hackett = Siegfried & Roy ???

  55. Mansti Tyson Says:

    54.RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:26 am
    this is Al’s show…Not that I agree with the stuff Al does all the time but this is his circus and he’s the ring leader

    ***

    Cable & Jackson = Barnum & Bailey ???

    Tollner & Hackett = Siegfried & Roy ???

    ————————————

    So would that make:

    Dikota and RMR = Cole Ford ???

  56. Thec07 Says:

    Cable & Jackson = Barnum & Bailey ???

    Tollner & Hackett = Siegfried & Roy ???

    ++++++++++++++++

    hahahahahahahahahahahahaha….More like keystone cops….

  57. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jason Campbell & Darren McFadden = David Copperfield & David Blaine ???

  58. RaiderRockstar Says:

    amazing that Barret Robbins & Cole Ford were on the SAME TEAM … scary thought, eh?

  59. RaiderRockstar Says:

    is Robbins still in a halfway house ???

    If not, I’m sure BSJ wants to trade Jon Condo for him …

  60. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cole Ford
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Ford had this to say about professional football: “NFL players are in the environment of the Roman Coliseum. Sacrificing takes place. It’s possible that I didn’t want to become a successful athlete because then I would have been sacrificed.”
    [edit] Legal troubles

    He moved to Las Vegas in 2004 to pursue a lawsuit against the Mirage casino, demanding $5 million in damages for what he perceived as exploitation of athletes from profiting off sports betting. The lawsuit was dismissed.[1]

    On September 21, 2004 police said that he fired a gun toward the house of entertainers Siegfried & Roy. Ford was arrested and charged with three counts of felony firearms charges.[2] At a January 2005 hearing, judge Jackie Glass ruled that Ford was incompetent to stand trial and ordered him sent to a state mental health facility to be evaluated. Ford argued that he was competent and wanted to plead guilty.[3]

    According to a psychiatrist’s evaluation after the shooting, Ford stated that he did not intend to harm the performers, but wanted to “warn the world of the illusionists’ unhealthy danger to them and to animals”. The psychiatrist, Norton Roitman, wrote that “While watching Siegfried and Roy, he had a sudden realization that what was wrong with the world was linked to the illusionists’ treatment, dominance and unhealthy intimacy he saw them having with their animals.” Ford told Roitman that he believed the performers had a sexual relationship with their animals and it was a factor in the development of the AIDS virus.[4]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Ford

  61. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I say sign Cole Ford now. A Raider if there ever was one.

  62. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:31 am

    amazing that Barret Robbins & Cole Ford were on the SAME TEAM … scary thought, eh?

    …………

    With Al Davis as their boss…

    Talk about the cuckoo’s nest.

  63. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I read an interview type thing on Cole Ford from the Las Vegas Review Journal.

    Strange, strange feller he was.

    Major pot head as well.

  64. Thec07 Says:

    My heart goes out to anyone with mental issues…
    Wonder how much drug use contributed to his decline.
    Sad story…

  65. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Pretty sure Eagles won’t move Kolb, unless for a 1st round pick because of his very friendly salary number.

    Vick just lit about $15 million on fire last night and threw it out the window. If he is equally awful in his playoff game as he was last night, the Eagles may not outbid other teams for Vick, and you can kiss the franchise tag goodbye as well.

    14 TD and 12 turnovers the last 6 games. Jason Campbell has been better than that!!!

  66. Mike Davis 36 Says:

    I’m still mad at Ford for missing that would-be game winner against the Bucs in 96. I mean, I’m sorry he went crazy and everything, but still….

  67. RaiderRockstar Says:

    With Al Davis as their boss…

    Talk about the cuckoo’s nest.

    ***

    too bad Todd Marinovich washed out in early 1993.

    Marinovich, Ford & Robbins in 1995 would have literally been nuts!

  68. Thec07 Says:

    MVICK will be one of the richest QB’s in the league again. no way to stop it even if he is one and done in the playoffs, which wont happen…

  69. Just Fire Baby Says:

    In Cole Ford’s defense, there was always the rumors that Roy was catching it from the Tiger that ended up attacking him.

    Just like those crazy lawyer people in the Bay Area who had the bull mastiff dogs for the dude on death row that ate that lady.

  70. Thec07 Says:

    MVICK will get his money…
    How many NFL teams would take MVICK now?
    Have to F tag him or sign him straight up no way around it..

    The CBA may have something to say when, but again he is going to get maximum dollar as he took his opportunity and ran with it….

  71. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:46 am
    MVICK will be one of the richest QB’s in the league again

    ************************

    Not a chance in hell he gets anywhere near the money Peyton, Brees and Brady are making.

    One great 2 month span is not going to get him paid like proven Super Bowl winners. I doubt he gets paid more than Mark Sanchez is making on his top 5 draft pick deal.

  72. Just Fire Baby Says:

    One team that needs a QB next year that probably won’t be in the market for Vick is the Vikings.

    They played there best game of the year defensively against him, and they should have had at least two more picks.

  73. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
    Contract Information for Kevin Kolb

    4/29/2010: Signed a two-year, $12.25 million contract. The deal, fully guaranteed, included a $10.7 million signing bonus. 2010: $715,000, 2011: $1.392 million, 2012: Free Agent

    ***

    if we traded a 2012 3rd rounder for him, would we be on the hook for part of that signing bonus or just the $1.4 mil salary?

    ++++++++++++++++

    I am not sure korn would be much better than what we have…

    What is your opinion on the HC issue? Or is it an issue?

  74. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I doubt he gets paid more than Mark Sanchez is making on his top 5 draft pick deal

    ***

    JFB,

    Contract Information for Mark Sanchez

    6/10/2009: Signed a five-year, $44.5 million contract. The deal includes $28 million guaranteed. Sanchez can earn $6 million more via “likely to be earned” incentives. Another $9.5 million is available through escalators, but they are “unlikely to be earned.” 2010: $6,442,500 (+ $10 million guaranteed option bonus), 2011: $13.5 million, 2012: $8.5 million, 2013: $4 million, 2014: Free Agent

  75. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I don’t think Marinovich had any mental illnesses. He was just a stoner. Marinovich was the classic case of father trying to live out his dreams through his son. The guy never wanted to play sports. I know someone who was just like that. High school baseball star, played well his first year in college, then just quit, Within months he had long hair, was hanging out with nothing but stoners. Total transformation. Guy was on top of the world, and wanted none of it. He never wanted to play sports.

  76. Thec07 Says:

    Yeah you could add Indy, NE, ATL, NO, SD, Hous, GB, KC
    Balt, Clev, Pitt at a bare minimum…

    Vikes have the kid Joe webb, not sure if he is a long term answer but IMHO he looked better than JC…Could be the oline he has, or he may just wind up being a better QB…

  77. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What is your opinion on the HC issue? Or is it an issue?

    ***

    Thec,

    If Cable finishes 8-8 going 6-0 in the AFC West we’d be crazy to let him walk

    we are a missed FG (AZ) and Ford fumble (JAX) away from being in the playoffs this year – despite a 29th ranked Run Defense!

    Grads wont be retained, so there is 2 or 3 more wins

  78. RaiderRockstar Says:

    hard to know if Joe Webb is the next Randall Cunningham or Tarvaris Jackson at this point!

    could go either way …

  79. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:56 am
    What is your opinion on the HC issue? Or is it an issue?

    ***

    Thec,

    If Cable finishes 8-8 going 6-0 in the AFC West we’d be crazy to let him walk

    we are a missed FG (AZ) and Ford fumble (JAX) away from being in the playoffs this year – despite a 29th ranked Run Defense!

    Grads wont be retained, so there is 2 or 3 more wins

    ++++++++++++

    Solid post man…Like I said you can make a compelling argument either way for the HC issue.

  80. SnB Production Says:

    If Cable is fired, would the new coach be able to pick his staff?

    You all know the answer to that question…

    Cable stays…..he’s not a very good coach, but he’s the best coach for this UNIQUE situation

  81. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
    hard to know if Joe Webb is the next Randall Cunningham or Tarvaris Jackson at this point!

    could go either way …

    +++++++++++++

    Truth…We don’t have enough film on him… Funny how when you get to see a guys tendencies over and over again the pattern develops that will allow you to conquer them. Only the truly elites find ways to beat you after being schemed to the hilt….

    Thats what we need is a franchise QB to take us to the promised land. Can we get there with JC knowing he is not a franchise QB???

  82. Thec07 Says:

    SnB Production Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
    If Cable is fired, would the new coach be able to pick his staff?

    You all know the answer to that question…

    Cable stays…..he’s not a very good coach, but he’s the best coach for this UNIQUE situation

    +++++++++++=

    Yet another compelling argument with a different perspective…

  83. Aimonas Says:

    What the Raiders need to do is Sign Logan Mankins LG – Move Gallery to RG & move Bruce Campbell to RT

  84. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Thec, are you that naive? You don’t know what RRS just did?

  85. Thec07 Says:

    ALL of you enjoy the rest of the day, back into the shadows….

    1 NATION….

  86. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Thats what we need is a franchise QB to take us to the promised land. Can we get there with JC knowing he is not a franchise QB???

    ***

    hard to tell. A franchise QB like Peyton Manning wasn’t benched 3 times this year or sacked 40 times…

    JCamp isn’t great, but he’s good enough. Look at the drops, fumbles and bad routes from his WR’s. Look at the Run Defense too. shut down Indy’s 32nd (DEAD LAST) running game and JCamp walks away a winner. He went 2-0 against Phil Rivers this season

  87. SnB Production Says:

    If the defense stopped the run this year and special teams didn’t flub it up…the team would be in the playoffs.

    Giving up 24+ points to Arizona?

    Giving up 30+ points 6x

    The long kick return near the end of the gm against Jax

    And getting run over by teams good and bad.

    DEFENSE WINS GAMES! If the defense gave up 17 pts or less…the Raiders are 12-4 with Jason Campbell and Tom Cable

  88. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    1) Cable running the football

    2) McFadden

    3) Ford

    That’s it. Take away those three things, and we’re 5-11. It’s really not scientific.

  89. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If the defense gave up 17 pts or less…the Raiders are 12-4 with Jason Campbell and Tom Cable

    ***

    good point!

  90. SnB Production Says:

    JC could grow into a competent QB. Right now he’s about 19th in the league in QB Rating.

    A good offseason with better receiver play could get him into the top 15.

    Top 15 would be a godsend for this HISTORICALLY quarterback starved franchise

  91. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, so we have the woulda shoulda coulda take on Campbell. Now can anyone tell me what his proven skills are?

  92. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 11:26 am
    this is Al’s show…Not that I agree with the stuff Al does all the time but this is his circus and he’s the ring leader

    ***

    Cable & Jackson = Barnum & Bailey ???

    Tollner & Hackett = Siegfried & Roy ???
    ————————————-
    If Cable & Jackson are Barnun & Baily, what does that make the Minnesota Vikings?

  93. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so we have the woulda shoulda coulda take on Campbell

    ***

    I like to think of it as the “supporting cast” theory

    JCamp isn’t going to put this team on his back and will it to victory week in & week out, but he can do his job with some form of competency and he certainly isn’t the weak link holding this team back!

  94. HairyBush Says:

    If there were some legit coaches that were beating down Al’s door to coach the Raiders, I would definetley entertain the idea of a new coach. Reality is until the Raiders are a consistent winner and/or Al steps down (lol) there will be no “marquee” coaches in Oaktown. Give Cable another year with his workman like approach and see if the Raiders can continue to improve. Cable is no genius by any means, But he is right for this team right now. (except the soft practices) I think if there is an NFL season next year, The Raiders will continue to grow. Unfortunetley next years schedule may stunt our growth as far as wins/losses.

  95. HairyBush Says:

    How sad when next weeks Sunday prime time game is between 2 teams that can’t even get a winning record with a win to enter the playoffs. I don’t think they should redo the playoff format, But I still must say how pathetic. Thankfully this situation is the exception not the rule. Just for haha’s I will cheer for the Rams or Seahawks in the playoffs hoping they can upset someone and that team will be ranked on for the next year. lol

  96. SnB Production Says:

    Good post Rockstar. People seem to think that if JC isn’t a top 10 QB he should be quickly replaced. THey don’t realize that no one, except Davis, sees JC as a top 10 QB.

    But what he can be is the next tier down. And that’s all this team, with a strong running game, needs.

    The folks also neglect the fact that the Raiders don’t have the organization, the stability or the patience to develop a young QB like Rogers, Bradford or Freeman.

    So, this is the best we can get. And its not too bad considering the JaDavis debacle.

    JC is not the reason this team missed the playoffs. Its a defense that can’t stop the run and gives up long plays on 3rd and long.

  97. RaiderRockstar Says:

    HB,

    I’d much rather see the Packers or Giants in the playoffs than the NFC West division winner!

    Does it really matter who wins between the Rams or Seahawks? Either team will get CRUSHED the very first week (wildcard round)

  98. r8rwill Says:

    #91, it is plane obvious that jc is the best raiders qb since gannon..it is plane obvious that jc has all the physical tools to do the job..it is plane obvious that he is our best chance now.. and by the way cable is not going anywhere..you can’t see any of that because you are stuck on the greatgradkowski’s nuts.

  99. VanHeathen Says:

    If Cable stays, i’d like to see someone upstairs become his ‘Challenge Co Ordinator’,
    his use of the 2nd challenge early in games was suspect at best…

  100. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you are stuck on the greatgradkowski

    ***

    who?

    that guy will be bagging groceries next year

    no way Al Davis lets this love affair continue and for good reason. After Campbell it’s Boller & Frye next year unless we want to take a flier on Matt Leinart, Patrick Ramsey or Joey Harrington for the vet minimum

    Print That!

  101. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
    HB,

    I’d much rather see the Packers or Giants in the playoffs than the NFC West division winner!

    Does it really matter who wins between the Rams or Seahawks? Either team will get CRUSHED the very first week (wildcard round)
    ———————————–
    I wouldn’t mind watching the Bucs if they got in. I don’t like GB and the NYG, so it doesn’t really matter to me. I realise it is 90% that Seahawks or Rams will get pummeled in 1st round, But it would be amusing to see the “underdog” pull off an upset win or two, however unlikely. Basically when the Raiders are not in the playoffs I usually find myself cheering for the underdog or cheering for the team that is playing against the Pats or Steelers or Colts. (sooooo tired of them). Dare I say I may cheer for the Cheifs to represent the AFC west.

  102. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if the Jags win and the Colts lose (only beat Tennessee by 2 points three weeks ago) Peyton Manning will be watching the playoffs on the couch like us!

  103. HairyBush Says:

    Why is MJD starting ahead of Arian Foster in pro bowl? purely name recognition?

  104. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I just don’t get the hate on the ST this year.

    Yes the AZ game started and ended with a disaster (we did recover TWO fumbled punts that day though) and the entire Jax game was a disaster and cost us the game.

    But on the flip side, the KC game we had a KO TD to start the 2nd half, than forced and recovered a fumble on the ensuing kickoff. Seabass made two tough, clutch FG’s in the rain to tie and win the game. We certainly don’t win the 1st Charger game as well with the two blocked punts.

    You look at other games as well, and ST was mostly solid.

    ST cost us two games, won us two games, and played well in most other games.

    At worst it was a push on the year.

  105. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Dare I say I may cheer for the Cheifs to represent the AFC west.

    ***

    I live in Missouri and as a Raider fan I must veto that!

    Baltimore, baby.

    Chris Carr & Fabian Washington could end up with Super Bowl rings, LOL

  106. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JFB,

    Fassel Jr = stud ???

  107. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    JCamp isn’t going to put this team on his back and will it to victory week in & week out, but he can do his job with some form of competency and he certainly isn’t the weak link holding this team back!

    …….

    OK, then, we’ll call it the coulda, woulda, shoulda, can theory. LOL

  108. HairyBush Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    Dare I say I may cheer for the Cheifs to represent the AFC west.

    ***

    I live in Missouri and as a Raider fan I must veto that!

    Baltimore, baby.

    Chris Carr & Fabian Washington could end up with Super Bowl rings, LOL
    ———————-
    fair enough, I only cheered for the Ravens when they destroyed the Pats last season. It was so nice to see all the locals hanging there head and making excuses.

  109. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    HairyBush Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

    If there were some legit coaches that were beating down Al’s door to coach the Raiders, I would definetley entertain the idea of a new coach.

    …………

    Clever. Don’t bother offering coaches lucrative contracts with substantial control, then tell your fans that it’s the coaches who don’t want to come here. Davisism 101.

  110. HairyBush Says:

    Davisism 101
    ———————–
    It’s like a whole new language lol

  111. Just Fire Baby Says:

    If the Seahawks make the playoffs they will get destroyed.

    But I think the Rams at home might play the Saints a little tighter than some might think.

    They played a few weeks ago in New Orleans, and the score looks worse than the game was. I believe Bradford was going in for a score in the 3rd quarter to really tighten it up, and it ended up like a 100 yard pick six.

    I’m rooting for the Rams, our only other win against a playoff team other than our division winner.

  112. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    r8rwill Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    #91, it is plane obvious that jc is the best raiders qb since gannon..

    …………..

    I don’t know where he ranks amongst all of the buffoons since Gannon, but I know this, he’s had to have Gradkwoski come in and save him this year.

  113. Kevin Flynn Says:

    112.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
    r8rwill Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    #91, it is plane obvious that jc is the best raiders qb since gannon..

    …………..

    I don’t know where he ranks amongst all of the buffoons since Gannon, but I know this, he’s had to have Gradkwoski come in and save him this year.

    ————

    Bafoons? How can you say that? Donald Hollas will go down as one of the greatest Raiders QB’s of all time, with Josh McClown right behind him.

  114. SnB Production Says:

    Kick coverage game had big letdowns…..punt return game awful….Janikowski was a disgrace this year…AZ and Jax….

    Pluses for J. Ford’s returns…although his fumble contributed to the lost season

  115. VanHeathen Says:

    Best QB since Gannon is not much of an honor…

  116. Kevin Flynn Says:

    Jano a disgrace? I wouldn’t go that far… He certainly cost us a few games, but hind sight is , on nm…

  117. Guy Says:

    Nick Miller has not been terrible on returns, he looks like Desean Jackson compared to higgins

  118. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    @ Flynn

    Hollas was before Gannon.

  119. VanHeathen Says:

    the last kickoff against Jax would be the most disappointing…watching Seabags try and run to make a tackle was hideous…
    That man needs to train like a Professional athlete.

  120. Kevin Flynn Says:

    I hate Gannon. He is a complete POS Raider hater. Did you see his lame azz “red scarf and tie” he was wearing during the Chiefs v Titans broadcast? He bashes the Raiders every chance he gets. Not to mention he single handedly lost the SuperBowl. 5 int’s in ONE F’ING GAME? Tom Brady only had 4 through 15 games…

  121. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # VanHeathen Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    Best QB since Gannon is not much of an honor…

    ………..

    I’m not even sold on him being the best QB since Gannon, and of course that seems to be the company line now. LOL. You can just tell by the people who are saying it. We’re a running team, and we’ve succeeded with the run. That’s helped Campbell’s rating. I don’t think he’s better than Gradkowski. I don’t even know that he’s better than Kerry Collins. But if they want to keep saying it and basing it on a couple of stats to back it up, more power to them.

  122. Kevin Flynn Says:

    Campbell is NOT better than Gradkowski or Collins PERIOD. All three SUCK. We need Kolb or Carson Palmer.

  123. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Janikowski just fell apart in the desert, but when else has he really faltered?

    He was money in the KC game.

    Both our kick returns and kick coverage return averages where in the top half of the league, and that doesn’t account for Seabass still at the top of the league in touchbacks. And Shane made the Pro Bowl again.

    Just two bad games, and punt returns. Your not going to have special teams perfection for 16 games.

  124. Kevin Flynn Says:

    We will CONTINUE to be an 8-8 team with Jason Campbell.

  125. VanHeathen Says:

    Flynn…
    Gannon was at a serious disadvantage considering he was playing against the coach who drew up all of the plays he was running, who was now teaching those plays to the other defense, terminology and all…
    It’s one thing to have film, but to have all the info on each formation/adjustment is a massive advantage.
    Maybe Al cost us that Superbowl by TRADING the Coach to a SuperBowl Contender?

  126. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Did you see his lame azz “red scarf and tie” he was wearing during the Chiefs v Titans broadcast?

    *********************************

    He did play in KC for years.

    Fans always care way more about this stuff than the players. A lot of players’ best friends in the game now, or not teammates but other guys that share the same agent.

    Can’t take this stuff too serious. Rich Gannon has a new job now, he is pretty good at it, and it does not entail him hyping up the Raiders for no reason.

  127. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kevin Flynn Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:11 pm

    Jano a disgrace? I wouldn’t go that far…

    …………

    He’s a disgrace for a kicker drafted in the first round. It’s not even debatable. A kicker in the first round is Superman. Al’s a gambler. He lost with that one. He could have gotten Jano’s numbers in the past decade with walk ons.

  128. r8rwill Says:

    being the best since gannon might not be an honor , but it is a good start..

  129. Kevin Flynn Says:

    125.VanHeathen Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Flynn…
    Gannon was at a serious disadvantage considering he was playing against the coach who drew up all of the plays he was running, who was now teaching those plays to the other defense, terminology and all…
    It’s one thing to have film, but to have all the info on each formation/adjustment is a massive advantage.
    Maybe Al cost us that Superbowl by TRADING the Coach to a SuperBowl Contender?

    ———————-

    BS dude How the fck can you blame a retarded old man for a superbowl loss? Lame excuse. Gannon threw 5 fing interceptions, superbowl record, not Alister Davis…

    He didn’t HAVE to throw the pass…. All Gannon’s fault.

  130. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kevin Flynn Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

    he (Gannon) single handedly lost the SuperBowl.

    ………….

    I’m now going to check the mental hospitals to see if a Kevin Flynn is missing.

  131. Kevin Flynn Says:

    126.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Did you see his lame azz “red scarf and tie” he was wearing during the Chiefs v Titans broadcast?

    *********************************

    He did play in KC for years.

    Fans always care way more about this stuff than the players. A lot of players’ best friends in the game now, or not teammates but other guys that share the same agent.

    Can’t take this stuff too serious. Rich Gannon has a new job now, he is pretty good at it, and it does not entail him hyping up the Raiders for no reason.

    ————————

    Paint it how ever you want bro. He bashes the Raiders and doesn’t support the Raiders. He publicly talks crap about the Raiders.. F Gannon.

  132. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:15 pm

    Janikowski just fell apart in the desert, but when else has he really faltered?

    ……….

    When did he earn his first round draft status, is the question. Al could have gotten Jano numbers out of walk on kickers throughout his tenure.

  133. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jano earned his first round status last week.

    99% of the kickers in the history of the game have never made a 59 yarder.

  134. Kevin Flynn Says:

    If not Jano, who would you rather have as a kicker? Cundiff? Gramatica? Akers? Vinatieri? Feely? Cocklicker? Douchesniffer?

  135. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Earned it last week? In a loss? JFB, you’re usually safe and careful about what you say. This is a rare, unhinged moment for you.

  136. VanHeathen Says:

    JFB…
    Problem is ‘He Fell Apart’ at all!
    He’s a kicker, a veteran and he’s out of shape…
    Kid has been a MindF**k since he came in the league.
    do you remember the GHB charge/ Bribing an Officer?
    nearly deported, all before he played 1 game.
    The Snow room incident, the fight at the Steak House?
    Cellulitous, from the carpet at his house…
    Not even mentioning the misses…
    And now he’s overweight, runs like a weeble,
    and his leg ‘is tired’?
    but we’re supposed to cut him MORE slack?
    Sorry, he’s got to step his game up…

  137. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Flynn, sorry, I’ve deemed you mentally unfit to serve in this discussion since you said Gannon was solely to blame for Super Bowl loss.

  138. Kevin Flynn Says:

    Real Madden:

    5 int’s… Current Superbowl record…. What more can be said??

  139. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    http://www.comcast.net/articles/sports-nfl/20101229/Vick-Carlson/

  140. Kevin Flynn Says:

    5 int’s in a SUPERBOWL, in Diego, which is Oakland South, nearly a home game….. In a SUPERBOWL..

    T Brady, 4 int’s over a 15 game span…

    R Gannon, 5 int’s in ONE game…

  141. SnB Production Says:

    JFB,

    Janikowski gets paid big money to be big time kicker. He’s unreliable in the big games….that Arizona game he missed some 3 or 4 kicks….the Jax game he couldn’t put the damn ball in the endzone.

    Tell him to hit the treadmill during training camp instead of having to bring in a substitute kicker to kick for him while he plays golf!

  142. Kevin Flynn Says:

    5 int’s IN ONE GAME!! ONE FING GAME. UNO. ONE. 1.

  143. Just Fire Baby Says:

    He leads the NFL in points, 50+ yarders made, and is 2nd in touchbacks.

    He is easily one of the best 5 kickers in the game.

  144. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    A kicker drafted in the first round is winning games left and right. Venatieri turned out to be everything that Al had hoped Jano would be. Venatieri was undrafted.

    Jano is, for all intents and purposes, a bust, particularly where his value as a first round draft pick is concerned. We could have gotten much out of Shaun Alexander or Keith Bulluck. Al’s a gambler. Some gamblers are winners, some are losers.

  145. Kevin Flynn Says:

    Agree Jano needs to hit the treadmill and eat a salad, but hey, I bet most of you on this list are fatties too… So eat a salad yourself.

  146. KoolKell Says:

    SnB Production Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
    JFB,

    Janikowski gets paid big money to be big time kicker. He’s unreliable in the big games….that Arizona game he missed some 3 or 4 kicks….the Jax game he couldn’t put the damn ball in the endzone.

    Tell him to hit the treadmill during training camp instead of having to bring in a substitute kicker to kick for him while he plays golf!
    ———————————–
    Isn’t that the organization’s job?

  147. SnB Production Says:

    Gradkowski is not a starting QB. He doesn’t know how to protect himself and tries to be superman out there.

    Hopefully he watched as Manning slid on that last bootleg.

    Gradkowski always trying to prove something instead of just playing.

    He put himself out of the league

  148. Kevin Flynn Says:

    144.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
    A kicker drafted in the first round is winning games left and right. Venatieri turned out to be everything that Al had hoped Jano would be. Venatieri was undrafted.

    Jano is, for all intents and purposes, a bust, particularly where his value as a first round draft pick is concerned. We could have gotten much out of Shaun Alexander or Keith Bulluck. Al’s a gambler. Some gamblers are winners, some are losers.

    ———————————————

    LMFAO.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. Are you f’ing kidding me? Jano a bust? And you think I am mental for dissing Gannon? LMFAO… You just flushed any credibility you had on this blog with that big turd you just dropped….. Jano a bust.. I might be wrong, but isn’t he the leading all time Raiders scoring leader? And he is a bust? LMFAO…

  149. SnB Production Says:

    KoolKell,

    True…so true…goes back to Tom CAble’s Club Med approach.

  150. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Sebastian’s major issue this year is the 40-49 range. 8 of 12 is not going to cut it.

    But 20 of 21 from 39 yards in (yes the one miss was a killer) and the most 50+ yarders in the league.

    All in all, about 90% of the league would trade kickers with us in a heartbeat, and maybe 95% of the league.

  151. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Kevin Flynn Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

    Real Madden:

    5 int’s… Current Superbowl record…. What more can be said??

    …………

    Al Davis running Gruden out of town…and to Tampa, coincidentally.

    The Raiders playing Charles Woodson on a bum ankle.

    The Raiders hiding Barret Robbin’s problems under a rug for years, instead of addressing them.

    Possibly the worst offensive gameplan in Super Bowl history.

    Oh, and btw, it’s hard to say how much better we could have played in that game if Shaun Alexander or Keith Bulluck were in the lineup. But Al decided Jano was a better investment.

  152. Kevin Flynn Says:

    149.SnB Production Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
    KoolKell,

    True…so true…goes back to Tom CAble’s Club Med approach.

    ————-

    Nope, he has been a fatty since he came into the league. All coaches have let him eat.. But I bet most of you on this blog are fatties too. Fat!

  153. Kevin Flynn Says:

    5 ints….

  154. HairyBush Says:

    Coach Callahan’s lack of adjustment to the playbook when knowing he was playing a team that has a head coach that coached the Raiders the year before had just as much to do with the super bowl loss as Gannon’s poor judgement. The Bucs knew 1/2 the plays before they happened. print that!

  155. J Hill Says:

    I sometimes find myself getting caught up in the whole Jano was a first round pick thing.

    Then I remember it was late 1st rd, and if not him it would have been Jerry Porter in rd 1 and Seabass #2.

    Not that bigga deal.

  156. SnB Production Says:

    145.Kevin Flynn Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    Agree Jano needs to hit the treadmill and eat a salad, but hey, I bet most of you on this list are fatties too… So eat a salad yourself.

    ====================================================
    Ha, Ha, Ha….good point…but I am in better shape than Janikowski…I bet he couldn’t keep up with me in a conditioning drill…..but he is a better kicker making far more cash than I will make..so I guess he should consider it a spoonfull of advise from me.

    He is overweight and out of shape…and it shows.

  157. Kevin Flynn Says:

    5 Real Madden 5, cinco, five, fiver, five spot, the big five, five-a-rooskie! Fiiiveee. F-hive. hi FIVE.

  158. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    JFB, all of those numbers might justify signing a free agent kicker for a moderate amount, but not drafting him in the first round. A first round kicker wins games, period. He’s so good, you know all you have to do is keep the game within 3, like the Patiots did pretty much throughout their Super Bowl run.

  159. Kevin Flynn Says:

    Real Madded is your excuse for EVERYTHING Raiders Al Davis?

    He is a retarded old man, can’t blame him for everything. We don’t blame him for nailing your mom and give birth to you.

  160. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’m in way better shape than Seabass myself.

    He’s got probably 2 inches and 70 pounds on me.

    And that’s at his listed “250″. LMAO!!! No way in hell that dude is 250.

  161. Kevin Flynn Says:

    Real Madden 5

  162. Kevin Flynn Says:

    5, no jive, 5. 5.

  163. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Real Madded is your excuse for EVERYTHING Raiders Al Davis?

    *************************

    You must be new around these parts.

  164. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    JHill, Shaun Alexander and Keith Bulluck were available when we drafted Janikowski. So where are you getting this Jerry Porter nonsense?

  165. J Hill Says:

    And just thing how SeaBass would have fared if we actually had a decent offense these past years.

  166. Kevin Flynn Says:

    163.Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
    Real Madded is your excuse for EVERYTHING Raiders Al Davis?

    *************************

    You must be new around these parts.

    ———————————-

    I fly in and out every now and then, rarely post. But I do remember Real Maddener always crying about Alister Davis.

  167. VanHeathen Says:

    Callahan was running Gruden’s Offense, period…
    Chuckie coached two teams to the superbowl in the same year…Al dealt him so late, that Callahn couldn’t have changed the Offense , if he had one to channge it too…
    John Lynch claims they new EVERY play we ran, you can hear him calling them out onthe NFL films…
    But it’s all Gannon’s fault…

  168. DKnight007 Says:

    7.Dakota Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 10:29 am
    Bill Parcells is meeting with the 49ers and will be their new GM and head coach!

    WOW!!!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5966114

    ^^^^^^^^
    Nah…it’s going to be Baalke or Lombardi who winds up with the GM gig and they will wind up hiring Philly OC Marty Morningwheg as the new Head Coach! LOL

  169. Kevin Flynn Says:

    164.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
    JHill, Shaun Alexander and Keith Bulluck were available when we drafted Janikowski. So where are you getting this Jerry Porter nonsense?

    ———————–

    And, with your point, or pointless point, of the three which is still playing in the NFL, starting in the NFL, and holds all time scoring leader for their team?

    Al Davis right?

    5

  170. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The case made today to justify Jano’s first round pick was comical. You guys made a good argument justifying his employment in the league. He’s good enough to be an NFL kicker, but not good enough to be a first round pick. It was one of Al’s many blunders as GM of the Raiders. You guys are just in denial.

  171. J Hill Says:

    I remember reading a post of Jerry Porter in training camp wearing a #2 jersey or something like that based on what rd he was drafted in. Might have been him wearing a #1 jersey …

    Anyway, he was upset at being taken in the 2nd rd by the Raiders when he had been under the impression that he would be taken in the 1st rd. Gruden told him the owner wanted the kicker.

  172. Kevin Flynn Says:

    5

    170.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
    The case made today to justify Jano’s first round pick was comical. You guys made a good argument justifying his employment in the league. He’s good enough to be an NFL kicker, but not good enough to be a first round pick. It was one of Al’s many blunders as GM of the Raiders. You guys are just in denial.

    ————————–

    Denial? Nah, you are just a moron.

    5

  173. KoolKell Says:

    Another Re-Cycled Troll, eh?

  174. VanHeathen Says:

    90% of the league might trade for Seabags ability,
    but not his contract…
    If this offense had actually scored TD’s instead of fg’s for the last 7 yrs, his numbers wouldn’t be so inflated…

  175. Kevin Flynn Says:

    Kookie!! How’s the wife? How’s the shack in Brazil? How’s the real estate business? You still driving that sweet azz ride in parades?

  176. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    What’s Jano’s salary, btw? If I came in as Raiders GM, first thing on the menu would be to do whatever I could to wash away the embarrassment of my organization having wasted a first round draft pick on him 10 years ago. He’s still capable. But a game winner he’s not. I’d give him a choice between taking a cut down to the median NFL kicker salary, or a bus ticket.

  177. Kevin Flynn Says:

    We need a QB, Safeties, Center, RT, LB, and 1 DB

  178. Kevin Flynn Says:

    176.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
    What’s Jano’s salary, btw? If I came in as Raiders GM, first thing on the menu would be to do whatever I could to wash away the embarrassment of my organization having wasted a first round draft pick on him 10 years ago. He’s still capable. But a game winner he’s not. I’d give him a choice between taking a cut down to the median NFL kicker salary, or a bus ticket.

    —————-

    Good thing you aren’t a GM..

    5

  179. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    KK,

    Kevin Flynn…Kevin GLENN

  180. KoolKell Says:

    Oh, ok. lol.

  181. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 1:41 pm

    You (Kevin Flynn) must be new around these parts.

    ……

    Not hardly.

  182. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Patton Oswalt hung around Oakglenn (Kevin Flynn) for a week to study for his character in Big Fan.

  183. Kevin Flynn Says:

    5 ints…

  184. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    #2 all time Raiders’ passer…

  185. Kevin Flynn Says:

    5 ints… #1 Superbowl record for most int’s thrown in ONE game.

  186. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    #2 all time Raiders’ passer.

  187. SnB Production Says:

    186.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    #2 all time Raiders’ passer.

    =====================================================
    Considering the revolving door of Raider QBs…not sure that #2 rating means much…..Stabler the only QB to play for a significant amount of time

  188. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    #2 all time Raiders passer..

  189. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If stats are to be used to determine that Jason Campbell is the best Raiders QB since Gannon, then why shouldn’t they be used to determine that Rich Gannon is the 2nd best passer in Raiders history? Because that’s what the numbers say.

  190. CDERaider Says:

    Reasons the Queefs are going to the playoffs and not the Raiders.

    1) Their OLine is better.

    2) Running Game – DMac is as good as Charles but they got more from Jones than we got from Bush and they were able to run more consistently. This has alot to do with #1.

    3) Legit goto WR – we have nothing to compare to what Bowe is doing over there.

    4) Run D is much better – 30-40 yds a game better plus don’t give up the big play.

    Cable will be back. The marching orders are obvious. Go to work in the offseason and focus on Run D upgrades (LB’s especially), a true #1 WR, and make Oline upgrade the #1 priority. Gallery, Carlisle, Walker gone as starters. Replace with BCampbell at RT + 2 new starting guards. Make a splash in the offseason and sign a pro bowl caliber Guard and draft an instant starter in round 3 to go with our young guys. Satelle is serviceable.

  191. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Here the Chiefs were dreading this game all year, considering what happened the last time they played us. But leave it to the Raiders to blow a couple of games they should have won, and now the Chiefs get a free pass. The story of Al Davis’s life.

  192. r8rwill Says:

    jerry porter sucked, and it had nothing to do with how he was drafted..sebastian janokowski best raiders kicker ever. hall of fame career. do you think he should make every kick?

  193. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # r8rwill Says:
    December 29th, 2010 at 2:18 pm

    do you think he should make every kick?

    …………

    Considering we blew a first round pick on him? YES!

  194. r8rwill Says:

    condo, lechler and jano are money!……again!

  195. garcia Says:

    I see Woodson and D.Hall both made the Pro Bowl. Hall was beyond awful against Denver but I still find it hard to believe that with millions of dollars and a couple of draft picks involved we gave up on him so quickly. If nothing else, with his tackling ability and ball hawking he could have been the best nickel back in the league.

  196. r8rwill Says:

    we have many things to fix, the kicking game isn’t one

  197. garcia Says:

    By the way, why all the hate on Jano. He didn’t draft himself in the 1st and who cares about his salary, Al pays it, not us. It would also be very easy to make the point that with the exception of Asomugha,and possibly McFadden, he’s the best 1st round pick the Raiders had this century. Of the 31 1st round picks that year there’s only 6-7 of them left in the league so the return on that investment isn’t that bad after all.

  198. r8rwill Says:

    jano is worth every bit of that first round pick, and he is still at the top of his game…59 yards on a cold, rainy heavy air day from a mud puddle,,and he had room to spare..dude is money.. you can spin it any way you want

  199. raidertalk Says:

    I think ppl get frustrated that Jano is the highest paid kicker. Esp when he is mediocre at best in the clutch and his kickoffs are getting shorter by the day.

    Look at the Mia, Jax, Ariz and yes even the Colts game, how big would the kick before the half have been? JC drove us into FG range to see Jano miss it when it could have totally changed the game esp toward the end.

    But if you like meaningless long FGs once and a while and high scoring out of a kicker who can’t help you win games than Jano is 1st round talent

  200. priesttj Says:

    Truth is this is a QB starved league, great QB’s aren’t walking the street with nothing to do. You have to be in the right place st the right time and even then the guy may not pan out. IMO JC is already in the top half of the league. I’d bet that most in here wohuld consider Eli Manning a great QB because they won a SB. Well IMO if JC had the same team and system around him as long he’d probabaly be better.

    I was somewhat impressed with his lastr outting and it wasn’t anything worth wrting home about in fact it was rather ordinary. Buyt what he did is kept us in it by not turning the ball over and causeing the game to get out of control. If we scould’ve broke a few tackles or big gains we could’ve won. The Indy defense tackled better than we did and won that game.

    The RB’s weren’t special at all but they got and extra 5 yards almost everytime on bad tackling. On the other hand they got our guys on the ground. We went away from the run much faster than we shguld as usual with 17 carries for 2 great backs in a tight game. When you take the ball out of those two HB hands and start throwing you better hit on some big plays because they are your bread and butter. We just seem to think we have Lerry Fitzgerald at WR as well Roddy White. It’s DUMB IMO to go away from your best players and try to win. But we do it consistently.

    Our record is 7-8 and I gaurantee you those 7 wins we ran at least 35x’s each game. The loses we average less than 20 between those two HB’s. Which begs the question WHY??????

  201. r8rwill Says:

    priest, i agree, jc is not one of the things we need to fix now..nor is jano. i think we can fond what we need in the draft, except for a vet wr..

  202. Aimonas Says:

    The problem is Seabass makes 1 great kick and then falters. In Arizona he missed 3 the last one killed us. That game alone would have kept us with a fighting shot at the playoffs against the Colts. Then his horrible kickoff after Mcfadden scores a Touchdown in Jacksonville. Jano has one games for us but it is the inconsiticy that kills us.
    As for the offseason We need to bring in Mankins, and draft a good Guard. Shift Mario to Right Tackle. Could be a special line. On D we need OLB that Howrd falled to be, and we need to figure out the safety situation, rid the contract of Chris Johnson & figure out what the heck is wrong with Stnaford Routt.

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