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The Cable waiting game begins

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There’s a raucous meeting of some sort going on behind the thin walls between the media room and the club facility, but the open locker room period was largely devoid of activity.

Only a few players trickled in between 10 a.m. and 10:45 a.m. Monday in advance of an 11 o’clock team meeting, all voicing support for coach Tom Cable as well as addressing concerns about a potential work stoppage.

Punter Shane Lechler, asked about the difference between the Raiders of past years and the 2010 version, continued his campaign for Cable.

“I think it was, to tell you the truth I think it was Cabes,’’ Lechler said. “Cable came in and was like, ‘Hey guys, this is what we’re going to do. We’re going to win the AFC West and we’re going to go do this and we’re going to compete and we’re going to win.

“He really helped this team out because he’s a blue-collar coach, and that’s what this organization I think needs. He’s not going to – excuse my French – he’s not going to (B.S.) you.

“He’s a straight shooter, and that’s how he is. That’s what I enjoy about him. I enjoy playing for him. Hopefully he’s here for a while. But I really do really, seriously think he’s the main reason we’ve got this thing headed back in the right direction.’’

Lechler has read the reports _ both ESPN’s Adam Schefter and the NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi have said Cable is “unlikely’’ to return _ and hopes they’re not true.

“That would be a shame. I seriously believe that it would set us back again,’’ Lechler said. “I can’t go through another head coach, man. I just can’t. I’ve been through too many of them. And they all come in here and say the same thing, ‘I’m going to do this, I’m going to turn this …’

“No, you’re not. I’d rather be with the guy that’s here right now, and we’ll roll with him.”

Lechler has played for six head coaches in 11 seasons _ Jon Gruden (2000-2001), Bill Callahan (2002-03), Norv Turner (2004-05), Art Shell (2006), Lane Kiffin (2006-07) and Cable (2007-present).

Tight end Zach Miller said if Cable weren’t retained “That would be a disappointment for everyone on the team. We’ve rallied behind him and he’s always been an honest coach with us, a great guy we follow. I don’t think anybody on the team wants that.’’

Said linebacker Ricky Brown: “You know what, I think he’s done a great job here. It seems like that other rumor started yesterday and we were kind of taken aback by it. None of that stuff, the players have no control over that, and the only thing we can do is play.’’

Brown, however, was realistic enough to understand there’s always a possibility of change and donned his silver and black colored glasses to look at the bright side.

“There’s a lot of respect for coach Cable just as there was a lot of respect for Art Shell when he was here.’’

Cable meets with the media for his weekly press briefing at 2 p.m.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Bring back the fat monkey.

  • 4evaRaider Says:
    January 3rd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    AHHHHH YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BONUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

  • OAKlifer

    Yes bring him back!

  • raiderman81

    Cable is good.. but hue jackson is the one we need to keep…….

    who would replace cable is hue doesnt?

  • Take that jama charles LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • DMAC

    I’m rolling w/ you Cable guy!

  • YoungAmerican

    YA, thats 1 example and its 20-25 years ago man!

    nothing since then?

    ———-

    Well, the Raiders certainly haven’t had a CB tandem the quality of Haynes-Hayes since then. Closest thing was Woodson-Allen, and Allen was a FA acquisition.

  • Keep staff together

  • 4evaRaider, that’s splitting hairs, isn’t it? Kiffin was for all intents and purposes out when that big scandal broke right after the ‘07 season. Several reports had him out of the loop, predicting he’d either be fired before the ‘08 season or early in the season, and they were right. No reason to doubt the scope of their reports, that Kiffin was out of the picture the minute Al found out he was flirting with other jobs. Cable was a name thrown around as Kiffin’s replacement ALL THROUGHOUT that time, which tells me he was being groomed into the job. I don’t think those rumors were by accident. This was Cable’s 3rd year. And what could he accomplish in the first 6 games next year to nullify his past results, anyway? How about this…Al gives Cable 6 games next year…and if he’s not 4-2 in those 6 games, he’s gone. Would that be better? IF he doesn’t reach that goal, it would have been better to just replace him now. I like Tom Cable, but the long term success of this franchise is more important than Cable’s ego. He’s had several chances. Several. Pittsburgh was a tall order, they’re one of the best teams in football. And although I’d have like to seen the Raiders at least give the Steelers a game, I don’t blame Cable for losing that one. But Miami and Jacksonville? If I’m Tom Cable I’m pulling no punches against those two teams. They’re winnable games, and must win games. They were his true test, and he lost them both. He’s not a head coach in this league.

  • OAKlifer

    Al should hire me! I will get this O line playing old school Raider football!

  • ArchiveTony

    # ArmChair GM Says:
    January 3rd, 2011 at 10:10 am

    I know we all wanted to go to the playoffs this year, and with better coaching and QB play we could have…

    But we have to realize the HUGE strides this team took this year. After 7 years of being the worst team in the league over that span, we accomplished a lot.

    We SWEPT SAN DIEGO FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!!

    We hadn’t beaten SD in years!

    WE swept the AFC West. That is HUGE for us.

    Our offense was downright explosive several times this year.

    Are there changes still needed, OF COURSE. But you don’t go from the depths of mediocrity like we were in to the Superbowl Champs in one season…

    Things are getting better guys, and the rest of the NFL knows it as well…
    ==================
    U need a dose of reality.
    O was explosive against really weak defenses.
    And what the NFL knows is that the AFC W is the second weakest div in the league.
    Yeah, we beat SD. What’s also obvious is cycles show all teams dip, and SD did as well.
    We got better, but are far from what you state, unfortunately

  • YoungAmerican

    It seems to me that the Raiders have done a great job of getting a bunch of players who have too much class to publicly trash their coach.

  • YoungAmerican

    If Cable’s option isn’t picked up, I wonder if Jack Del Rio would be interested in coming to Oakland as HC.

    It would be nice to see him as DC if Marshall isn’t re-hired, but he’d definitely get higher-paying offers as a DC elsewhere.

    Hell, he’ll probably get higher-paying HC offers too. Who knows, though.

  • OAKlifer

    well MR post 9 as much as I hate to say it is about right on. I am all for keeping Cable but if history were to repeat it self its best to start now not 6 games into next season

  • With pre-season, Cable is 11-9 this year. That is a winning season. Jackson hasn’t yet earned a HC job. I say stay the course, and build the O-line in April.

  • So say…around 2pm we’ll find out if he stays?

  • ArchiveTony

    Cable isn’t going anywhere.
    He’s a yes man, and that’s #1 on Al’s application he hands out.
    He’s also a “whatever you say, boss” guy, who doesn’t put up a single peep when Al tells him he’s hiring his staff, or that he’s losing his play calling ability, or that regardless of what he tells the press, Grad is not the starter. All important to Al. He also toes the company line regarding what Al allows him to say to the press.

    Only thing more certain than Cable staying is that Al won’t give an inkling of that, if at all, until after the Super Bowl, just to milk it.

  • YoungAmerican

    Don’t often agree with RMR, but post #9 more or less hits the nail on the head.

  • OAKlifer

    Jeff Jagodzinski has been fired as head coach of the Omaha Nighthawks.

    The bad thing is We would have to go after someone like this someone Al can control and wasnt he a canidate a few years ago when Bc was doing so good?

  • YoungAmerican

    Well, Al has two weeks to see what his options are for the head coaching position. A lot can happen in two weeks, and only Al truly knows what Al is cooking up…

  • ArchiveTony

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    January 3rd, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    With pre-season, Cable is 11-9 this year. That is a winning season.
    =================
    man, talk about a stretch??
    pre-season?
    Had the Raiders gone 1-3 in preseason, would you be posting “with pre-season, the Raiders had a losing record, and Cable should go”? No, don’t think so.

  • ohioraider

    Whenever I read these great tag lines from Raider lore I get all misty eyed:
    “Committment to Excellence”
    “Pride and Poise”
    “The Greatness of the Raiders is in the Future”

    …and now we can add to this great pantheon:

    “We’re Not Losers Anymore”

    **sniff**

  • MR….

    no….but even if Cable doesnt go 4-2 I say keep him.All the players play for him,buy into him.He is,in less than 3 years,molding a truly dominating O-line and a mean aggressive bust your jaw defense that these players see and believe,imo

    But your 4-2 example is a good reference on where Cable should be,imo

  • MR….

    no….but even if Cable doesnt go 4-2 I say keep him.All the players play for him,buy into him.He is,in less than 3 years,molding a truly dominating O-line and a mean aggressive bust your jaw defense that these players see and believe,imo

    But your 4-2 example is a good reference on where Cable should be,imo

  • hwnrdr

    My question to you all…who would come here knowing that Al runs everything? Cable has been perfect for the job…now if Al can get a big name like a Harbaugh, then I’m all for it…

  • WOW how I do dat?

  • Belichick took 2 years in New England.

    S. Payton won his division his first year.

    Tomlin wins Super Bowl his first year, and since he inherited Cowher’s team, it should be noted that Cowher won his division his first year, in 1992.

    Andy Reid had the Eagles at 11-5 his second year.

    Tom Coughlin was 11-5 his second year.

    Just what team are you guys using as a standard when you say that the Raiders just need more continuity with their head coach? I’m trying to find a team in the league that gives any coach more than 3 years to come up with at least a winning record.

  • there is a split in the matrix

  • J Hill

    With pre-season, Cable is 11-9 this year. That is a winning season.

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    LOL!

  • zopi

    The mistake to change coaches now is that the 2011 season has a lot of uncertainties due to the CBA issue.
    The most probable scenario would be a late start of the season, meaning that contact with players would be minimal to none until the issue is settled.
    Bringing in a new staff would be disastrous right now for the up and coming Raiders, and at least there’s a general consensus and support for Cable from the players.
    Blaming losses or praising victories entirely on Cable is non-sense. But there was significant improvement this season, and everything starts from Al Davis on down, no need to doubt he calls all shots, amazing for a man his age. Must respect that.
    The current coaching carousel will go on with or without resolving the Cable situation.
    I believe Al Davis will keep Cable and fill the needs with the draft, and with free agents once the CBA issue is resolved. Next season is reload and move up, no need to revamp. However, for 2012 all bets are off, baby.

  • 4evaRaider, I’m trying to find an NFL team in the modern era that gives a coach more than 3 years to at least produce a winning record. Can you help me? Do you know of any? Save me some time. This is exhausting. I can’t find one team. I keep hearing in here that the Raiders need continuity. But it’s funny, I can’t find one team, at least not a successful one, in the modern era that keeps a coach on for more than 3 years when he hasn’t so much as produced a winning record. What gives?

  • da trinity

    i like cable, but if we have to pick between him and hue, i pick hue. by what im hearing hue is getting other offers. cant afford to have jason to have to learn another system. man now a days it seems coaches have loyalty to teams, if a team has a great season there assistants get plucked. they should do something about that, make them honor there contracts.

  • hwnrdr

    All of those coaches don’t have an owner like Al who insists on doing it his way! I know that some of the plays are not his way that was done this year, ie. blitzing…but we have done more of it than in the past 8 years! But with that, the front 4 has learned to shed their blocks and become dominant in the pass rush game. Now we need them to figure out the run stop and its all good!
    That is the one reason why I am for keeping Cable and staff together. They have gotten rid of the losing culture and the players, especially those who have been here since 2003 believing again! Al Davis even said it in his introduction speech of John Madden in the Hall…he’s a hard man to work for…

  • the count-down has begun

  • Just how many years do you guys want to give Cable? 5? 5 YEARS WITHOUT A WINNING RECORD? Are you serious? Then what? An extension? 7 years? He just needs a couple of more years? I mean, after all, our biggest problem has been our lack of continuity, right? So why not give Cable an additional 3 years? That makes it 10. Then when an entire decade has gone by, and Cable’s still YET to produce a winning season, what then? Continuity, baby. Last thing we need is to just blow everything up and start over. After all, in Cable’s 10th season, we were 8-8! And, a few of those losses came down to field goals. What’s one more year?

  • Lowdown_in_Beijing

    I hate Bellechek, but he ranks up there with Madden, Lombardi, et al.

    Cable? Well, he’d be cool to hang with in Vegas and come in handy if I got in a fight with my ex-wife.

    That being said, I don’t think it would take much to find a better than an 8-8 coach.

    As for JC, he reminds me of Jay Schroeder, pure Schizo.

    Granted JC has shown improvement, but leave open the option of improving the position.

    Hopefully Jed York jettison Troy Smith…the kid is a natural playmker.

    With a year under his belt, JC is sure to beat out the likes of Brian Brohm, Trent Edwards and Orton…

    Like, Cable, you make the switch if there is a considerable upgrade available.

    You don’t replace a Chevy with a Dodge…

  • hwnrdr Says:
    January 3rd, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    All of those coaches don’t have an owner like Al who insists on doing it his way!

    ………

    That’s not an excuse. Gruden did just fine. Take control of the team. If you need a certain player, tell Al to sign him, or you’re walking. Cable chooses to just sit there and take orders from Al. He has a lot of options. He can do what Kiffin did, take it public. Do whatever it takes. Don’t just sit there and be a door mat. That’s all the more reason to fire Cable.

  • da trinity

    i hope we keep bush

  • Lowdown_in_Beijing

    “We’re not losers anymore” may possibly be the dumbest quote in America…

  • 100PercentRaider

    I think Cable deserves another year because he literally took the hardest head coaching job in the history of the NFL. The team was in the middle of the worst 7 year stretch in the history of the NFL, had very little talent and alot of wasted cap space, was forced to play the worst NFL qb ever, and had to work with Al Davis w/o choosing his own staff. If he doesnt get it done next year, by all means he should be fired. But that needs to be taken into consideration

  • Those of you who say we can’t do better than Cable should really think about your words before saying something so foolish, especially with Jon Gruden, Bill Cowher, and Bill Parcells just sitting there out of the league. Yeh, Cable’s the best thing going. Sure. Listen to yourselves.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Just what team are you guys using as a standard when you say that the Raiders just need more continuity with their head coach?

    *************************************

    I am using the Raiders as the standard.

    Gruden was 8-8 his first year with a real QB, so was Cable.

    Cable has only had two training camps and offseasons as the coach. His first season in Oakland was thrust upon him and he just tried to keep people from bailing on the season in October.

    Gruden was 8-8 his first two years. Cable is on his way.

  • JLofty

    Keep Cable. I want to see another year of this staff.
    I think Hue can grow as a play caller which will help. The young guys get another year of continuity and growth.
    Work on the line, get another QB, and some vet WR for depth. And figure out how to reduce the dead ball penalties and big plays on D.
    And we take the SupaBo next season. Or at least have a shot.

  • # 100PercentRaider Says:
    January 3rd, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    I think Cable deserves another year because he literally took the hardest head coaching job in the history of the NFL.

    …………..

    What does that mean? Why is the Raiders head coaching job the hardest in the NFL?

  • JLofty

    RMR there is ZERO chance of any of those guys working at 1220 HarborBay Parkway. Zero, nada, 0.

  • YoungAmerican

    Norv Turner on getting fired (NFL Network): “Sometimes it helps when you know the guy firing you doesn’t know what he’s doing.”

    Cut to Michael Lombardi: (laughing) “Norv [being] honest…” “Norv Turner at his finest.”

  • Dr. Hunter S. Thompson

    I agree with Lowdown. The ONLY way you replace Cable is with a MAJOR upgrade.

  • 504 Raider

    OAKlifer Says:
    January 3rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    Al should hire me! I will get this O line playing old school Raider football!

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    What you gonna do for preparation every week? No game planning or meetings, just run the Pit Drill all day everyday?

  • da trinity

    man al is going to have to do some salary magic to resign our free agents.

  • igster2013

    Keep Cable! We need some stability.

    This is my first post on this forum after 5 years or so of read-only. I’ve been a Raiders fan all of my life which stretches back to the mid-60’s. I currently live outside of Kansas City in Chiefs country.

    This season I went to the neighborhood sports bar to watch almost every Raiders game and this is the first year in a long time that I wasn’t ashamed or apologetic to wear my Raiders sweatshirt. During this season, fans of other teams regularly came over to my table and gave me respect as a Raiders fan including many Chiefs fans yesterday. To be honest, it felt real good.

    If any of Al’s people are reading this, PLEASE KEEP THE COACH!