Post-Cable notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, January 4th, 2011 at 10:13 pm in Oakland Raiders.
NOTE: Here’s a link to my Web column on Al Davis’ distaste for a .500 record, why players will get over Tom Cable’s departure and why things will work out just fine for Cable in the end . . .
So when is Hue Jackson’s press conference?
Nothing scheduled yet. In fact, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see the Raiders draw the process out, initiate a search, and then come to the decision which may have been made nearly a year ago when Jackson was hired as offensive coordinator with Cable in the last year of his contract.
Unless Davis fears the San Francisco 49ers might really make Jackson the head coach _ and the interview process has yet to begin _ he is already under contract and there is no rush to make things official.
He can name Jackson any time he chooses since the Rooney Rule is not in play.
– Yes, if he wishes, Davis could go trolling for Jim Harbaugh or make a large segment of the fan base extremely happy by reconnecting with Jon Gruden, but that’s not the way to bet. The Raiders don’t pay the kind of money they are likely to command, and Gruden’s sticking point when he left would not have changed _ he wants to hire his own coaches and pick the 53-man roster.
– Worst-case scenario _ Harbaugh says he doesn’t want the 49ers job, Jackson interviews and his quickly hired, and the Raiders lose their offensive continuity.
Wonder if Montreal Alouettes coach Marc Trestman is interested in getting back into the NFL?
– Here’s how I assessed Jackson’s hiring in this blog almost a year ago _ a no-lose situation.
– Punter Shane Lechler, who said Monday he wasn’t interested in having another new coach, thinks Cable’s ouster will have a negative effect on free agency.
“It’s going to influence a lot of guys’ decisions on free agency,” Lechler said by phone. “You’re going to for darned sure lose Robert Gallery now. You’re going to lose Michael Bush now, for sure. You’re going to lose a bunch of guys that are great football players and just because of this move . . . I already know what those guys are going to do. I’ve talked to them, I’m friends with them, and I know what’s going on.”
More Lechler: “It’s going to be a huge setback because you heard the locker room just like I did. It’s hard to understand how or why the decision was made when it seemed it was in the best interest of players and we finally felt like we were headed in the right way, and owner goes and pulls the (plug).”
– With regard to Bush, he may not even be an unrestricted free agent when a new collective bargaining agreement is reached. Bush spent his first season rehabbing a broken ankle and then played three seasons. His contract has expried, but the Raiders could end up with a right of first refusal in a new CBA _ just like with Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard last season.
As for Gallery, I talked to him on the phone and he was extremely disappointed while stopping short of saying he was heading for the door when free agency beckons.
“I really haven’t processed that yet,” Gallery said. “It’s definitely something to think about. Coach Cable and everyone else knows how I feel about him and the things he did as far as getting my career back on track. He’s a guy I wanted to play for. We’ll have to see what happens when free agency does come.”
More Gallery: “I think this is going to hit 99 percent of the locker room really hard because people respected how he dealt with us and where we were headed. It’s definitely a step back from what we’ve done going forward the last year or two.”
– It was almost surreal, listening to Raider-basher and Al Davis arch-enemy Marty Schottenheimer be so complimentary towards a Raiders coach _ who would learn shortly after hanging up the phone he was out of a job.
Cable was the “Late Hits” show with host Brian McGovern and Marty Schottenheimer, who made Raider-baiting (and beating) into an art form in Kansas City and San Diego.
“You’re probably aware I’m anti-Raiders and all this, but the bottom line is, I see a guy like yourself go to work, take a football team that’s struggling to understand the things that have to happen to win and all of a sudden you can see it just beginning to grow,” Schottenheimer said. “You have to be tickled to death, looking at the great picture of the way your football team is starting to rise up.”
The soon-to-be-former Raiders coach, in turn even said he borrowed from Schottenheimer in remaking the Raiders’ image and attitude.
“I actually stole a page from your book, because that’s been my mantra this whole time, that we’re going to own this division, and the way we’re going to own it is we’re going to be the tough guy, and we’re going to be the first one to punch you in the mouth and we’re going to be the last one to punch you in the mouth, and that’s the way I think you build a team at this level,” Cable said.
“If you don’t have that tough mentality, then you have no chance. You can throw it around all you want, and throwing the ball is pretty, and you’ve got to throw it some to win in this league, but at the end of the day, you’ve got to stop the run and you’ve got to be able to run.”
Cable continued to support the candidacy of Jackson as a head coach, although not necessarily for his job.
“In terms of Hue, he deserves it. He’s done a fine job,” Cable said. “We’ve been friends for a long, long time. I know what he’s about and what his goals are and all that. I know he wants to be a head coach in this league, so if that works out for him, I support it and I want what’s best for him.”
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January 4th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
1st
January 4th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
Al Davis for HC / GM
January 4th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Good God that old mans crazy…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_3
IS Hue next?
January 4th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Coach Hue!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:23 pm
“It’s going to influence a lot of guys’ decisions on free agency,” Lechler said by phone. “You’re going to for darned sure lose Robert Gallery now. You’re going to lose Michael Bush now, for sure. You’re going to lose a bunch of guys that are great football players and just because of this move . . . I already know what those guys are going to do. I’ve talked to them, I’m friends with them, and I know what’s going on.”
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These are not your fathers Raiders. Its a new era Al. Like it or not.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
They Fired The Fat Monkey!!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Alrighty!!
sooo…here we go…”Ode to Alzheimers AL” (please sing this to the melody of the Beverly Hillbillies’ theme song):
Come ‘n listen to my story ’bout Alzheimers AL
A shadow of himself, at the moon he would howl,
And then one day, dreamin of days gone by
Purple Drank appeared causing AL to sigh,
JaDumbarse, that is, black gold, BamaBoy…
Well, the first thing you know, AL’s 2 and 14
Nother seasons gone by, AL still has a dream,
Told ole Lance “Californy is a place you ought’nt be!”
So Lance loaded up the truck and moved to Tennessee
Hollywood..vertical attack, man-on-man, 1969…..
So AL’s still thinkin its 1969,
With a vertical attack everything’ll be fine
And Big AL know alls he gotta do, grab a Plunkett incarnate name of Campbell boo…
After 6 long quarters Campbells a slug,
ALs frothin at the mouth while Cable pulls the plug,
Overhead projectors burnin a hole, better turn AL out fore he has em all on the dole.
Well, now it’s time to say goodbye to AL and all his kin,
AL would like to thank you folks for kindly droppin’ in
Insanity and alzheimers, superbowls and gin.
You’re all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin’ helpin’ of AL’s hospitality
Dementia, that is, set a spell, take your shoes off
Y’all come back now, hear?
January 4th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
bgradkowski5 Bruce Gradkowski
by PGutierrezCSN
Its definatly a surprise it happen this fast! Cable did a great job with the team but he’ll be hired again fast what u guys think? @Huffy247
January 4th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Total Cable Supporter, but…….
2-8 out of division
2-2 against the NFC West.
Nuff said.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Weather you like Cable or not, this was an exciting year, and painful too. But when was the last time you saw a team play with the kind of fire they had, (when they did), and play not to lose? Regardless, Cable was the coach. As much as I love the Silver and Black, I got a sinking feeling. Hope I’m wrong, we’ll know in September.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
“I support it and I want whats best for him”-while he is stabbing you in the back.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Unexpected busy night, huh Jerry?
January 4th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
what about rob ryan as hc? gads…but there have been those rumors right?
January 4th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Now they have fat, bald-headed black monkey.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Gallery and Bush can be repaced, but we need a better HC to win more games. We had an easy schedule and the best we could do was 8-8.
Why Cable Got Fired:
-We lost to SF!!!
-We lost to AZ!!
-We had 2 weeks to prepare for the Steelers, and we played like crap!
-Bad roster mgmt. Who needs 8-9 LBs activated and only 3 CBs?!
-GarbageKowski!
-He was excited/ happy being 8-8!!!
We can do better.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Lefty12 I said many times early in the year that I didn’t know JC plenty of times BUT I’m not the coach Cable was. He should’ve known how to handle that situtaion and done amuch better job of it. To pull the starter is one thing but to bench him for the season was hasty at least. I didn’t know what JC was capable of until he beat SD in Oakland then I said why did he bench this kid if he can this. He had ALL OFFSEASON with him I didn’t.
If you can’t see in all of that who your better player is I have a real problem with that and I also think he played to the crowd it bit much listening to the crowd as to when to pull his QB. The crowd will get you FIRED EVERYTIME if he doesn’t know that I don’t want him coahcing here at all. Fans are fans your better off listening to an electric fan than one of these face painted Morons in the stands half drunk telling you what to do. That’s an egregious error from the start. YOU MUST KNOW your team better than anyone if you don’t you wont win……………period
To NOT play Mike Bush all year long was STUPID!!!!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
i was a cable supporter, lets be honest the x’s and o’s werent his thing but they didnt need to be, the players loved him and respected him, lechlers interview says it all. i will always be a raider fan but this is tough to swallow. al better have something better than hue up his sleeve
January 4th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Hard to believe that the SFChron beat writer has an inside source that JMac isn’t already aware of. Probably a calculated gamble on their part that Jackson is the man and who wouldn’t roll the dice to beat JMcD to the story for once.. But enough of that.
My concern is how Jackson will handle double duty as HC and OC. Cable also left his fingerprints all over the O’line which probably suffered the most during the Turner-Shell-Kiffin transition years.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
8-8 sux anyway you write it….
January 4th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Will Condo’s damage never cease?!
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Jon Condo for HC!!!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
Those of you threatening to jump ship over this, based on Cable’s results,
How did you manage to stay on board when he got rid of Gruden? Gruden had won back to back division titles. That was forgivable, but this isn’t?
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It was forgivable because Al fleeced the Bucs for all those draft picks…what other franchise has ever received draft picks for a HC?
January 4th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
I wish Hue would have declined the sht frisco interview and just said, “thanks, but I want to stay here and finish something I started and give Tom support for another season and see where we can take it. we are that close.”
January 4th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
the oline was horrible they could run block but couldnt pass block a high school team…that alone is why cabes got fired…thank henderson, carlisle and satalle
January 4th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
hire bob ladouceur
January 4th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Hue didn’t play Bush,not Cable.Remember Jackson had control over the offense,not Cable.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I hope Al goes fishing for some Jeff Fischer…
January 4th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Schedule is tougher next year and JCampbell has already maxed out. We’ll see how well Jackson does after he incurs Al’s wrath. 6-10 at best because there is no way we sweep the division again with a glorified cheerleader at the helm.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
i was a cable supporter, lets be honest the x’s and o’s werent his thing but they didnt need to be, the players loved him and respected him, lechlers interview says it all. i will always be a raider fan but this is tough to swallow. al better have something better than hue up his sleeve
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This is the NFL!!!!
Love doesnt get you Super Bowls!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
hue jackson will have people crying for cable. archive this if you want, players will not play for him the way they did for cable. with the schedule we have, and the players that are going to leave, we are back to a 5 win team.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Look what Raheem Morris has done down in Tampa that is what Mr Davis is trying to get done. Someone who can maximize the talent on this team. Look at what great coaches can do. Jim Harbaugh gets everything out of his teams EVERYTHING and Mr Davis sees that and says why can’t this guy do that??? This game is not rocket science there are some fundamentals that you MUST do and Cable too many times flubbed those.
Lefty12 You know I’ve said it many times all his coahces enfluence his drafting decisions contrary to popular belief and Cable did as well. So will his next coach because he wants to give them what they think they need to win. Now if they strongly disagree with him they BETTER win………….period
January 4th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
al you and lindsay rehab
January 4th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
starting grads against miami (and loosing big) stands out to me. why make that switch? we were at home, jacoby ford gave us a 7-0 lead, and then we play like sh!t.
how many teams do you think will interview him for a head coaching job? Idaho maybe.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
Knew Hue was a conniving gnome when he said that it was his decision to first pull Campbell “becuase he has great lattitude with Mr. Davis” and then tried to backtrack by saying he ran it through Cable first.
Et tu Brute, you slimy POS.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:39 pm
We still don’t have a HC.
I think Al may go for a big name HC to help keep the fans and team happy.
Gruden or Harbaugh will make the team and fans happy.
I don’t know if Hue will make everyone happy, and I don’t think can afford to lose fans or the respect of his team.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Oh yeah…..
We also were the most undisciplined team in the league!!! That almost always falls squarely on the coach.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Where is RMR when we need him. Only one who had the foresight to see Cable signed his walking papers by saying the Raiders were no longer losers. Cable gets axed for telling the truth.
These are not your fathers Raiders.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
So when is Hue Jackson’s press conference?
Nothing scheduled yet. In fact, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see the Raiders draw the process out, initiate a search, and then come to the decision which may have been made nearly a year ago when Jackson was hired as offensive coordinator with Cable in the last year of his contract.
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So what’s the advantage in that, Mr Spokesman?
January 4th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
randy hanson =head coach
January 4th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
lefty12 please man lets not play games with this, Tom Cable is the HEAD COACH if something happens his asss is on the line now if he let Hue hang him. So be it!!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
NOTE: Here’s a link to my Web column on Al Davis’ distaste for a .500 record, why players will get over Cable’s firing and why things will work out just fine for Cable in the end
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But the fans get screwed again….
January 4th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Wikileaks just released a “Cable” stating Gruden is packing his bags and heading west.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Anyone who thinks a rah-rah college coach can come in here and cheer lead these raiders to victory next season is off point.
The Raiders will ALWAYS draw flags. That just eminates from the owner. No way around that.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Wasn’t the decision to start Grads not Hue’s decision too? Wasn’t the 2-8 record outside the division on Hue’s watch too?
January 4th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
DaRayduh Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Where is RMR when we need him. Only one who had the foresight to see Cable signed his walking papers by saying the Raiders were no longer losers. Cable gets axed for telling the truth.
These are not your fathers Raiders
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Al’s mind was already made up before the KC game and Cable could probably sense it. It was a forward-looking comment made for the benefit of everyone else -not Al Davis – to show just how stupid and vindictive Al would be.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Everyone will know a lot more by the end of next week. Harbaugh has said he will decide in a week and a lot of teams will sew up their options after that.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
I dont know why people think Hue is guaranteed to receive the HC job? Especially with all the HC’s floating around.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Wikileaks -tom cable released by raiders for showing his weenie too amy trask.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
We all know this team could have done much better, and we all know who gets the blame. Get over it!
Bush didn’t play, We lost games we shouldn’t have lost, and we didn’t play well after having 2 weeks to prepare. We were 8-8 with an easy schedule. I font see the logic in keeping Cable other than the players like him, and I don’t think that’s a Valid/ good/ logical reason.
The players loved R Ryan, so maybe we should bring him back? lol
January 4th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
# CDERaider Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Wasn’t the decision to start Grads not Hue’s decision too? Wasn’t the 2-8 record outside the division on Hue’s watch too?
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Yep. 8-8 first year with organization. Good start.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
K…..sooo…here we go…”Ode to Alzheimers AL” (please sing this to the melody of the Beverly Hillbillies’ theme song):
Come ‘n listen to my story ’bout Alzheimers AL
A shadow of himself, at the moon he would howl,
And then one day, dreamin of days gone by
Purple Drank appeared causing AL to sigh,
JaDumbarse, that is, black gold, BamaBoy…
Well, the first thing you know, AL’s 2 and 14
Nother seasons gone by, AL still has a dream,
Told ole Lance Californy is a place you ought’nt be
So Lance loaded up the truck and moved to Tennessee
Hollywood..vertical attack, man-on-man, 1969…..
So AL’s still thinkin its 1969,
With a vertical attack everything’ll be fine
And Big AL know alls he gotta do, grab a Plunkett incarnate name of Campbell boo…
After 6 long quarters Campbells a slug,
ALs frothin at the mouth while Cable pulls the plug,
Overhead projectors burnin a hole, better turn AL out fore he has em all on the dole.
Well, now it’s time to say goodbye to AL and all his kin,
AL would like to thank you folks for kindly droppin’ in
Insanity and alzheimers, superbowls and gin.
You’re all invited back again to this locality
To have a heapin’ helpin’ of AL’s hospitality
Dementia, that is, set a spell, take your shoes off
Y’all come back now, hear?
January 4th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Just heard on ESPN that Cable and Al didn’t get along. Never heard that before. I’m sure that “we would have made the playoffs without Jamarcus” comments at the end of the season pissed Davis off. It sure pissed me off. Karma is a biotch!!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
and I don’t think can afford to lose fans or the respect of his team.
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Fans are fans mayne.
Winning brings fans in!
It’s the offseason so fans can get their vent on all day long.
Belive me when I tell you, and you probably already know this, Tom Cable is NOT going to be the reason Raider fans leave the Raiders, lol. Those guys will be right in front of the TV checking out the Senior Bowl and Draft wondering who the Raiders are going to take. And will be right here when we start the season off 2-0!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Don’t*
January 4th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Anyone who thinks a rah-rah college coach can come in here and cheer lead these raiders to victory next season is off point.
The Raiders will ALWAYS draw flags. That just eminates from the owner. No way around that.
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Yes there is. Its called fundamentals. Especially when you discuss false starts.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
So they say cable and Davis didnt get along an Davis couldn’t see them getting along in the future. Does Davis get along with anyone my gosh does he even have friends. You cant have a 100 yr old man running a NFL team proof is in how he has handled this team inthe last eight nine yrs.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
It has been painfully hard to bring this team back from gannons 5 ints’. It got bad before it got worse. Al is lucky no one did a ‘intervention’ on his ass for running this club the way he did. Now something at the least had some root. He just yanked it up.
I would be surprised to see this group perform for anyone else, cept maybe Gruden.
These are not your fathers Raiders.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
If Al and Cable didn’t get along it’s because Cable is not an obsequious wimp like the new HC will be. You get what you ask for. Jackson will be a flop. Gruden succeeded because he had Gannon. Jackson will fail because he has Campbell.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
This might be even crazier…
RETURN OF CHUCKIE?!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_3
January 4th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Good luck Cable, thanks for making us competitive and worth watching this season..
Don’t ufck this up, Al!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
raiders given permission too talk with usc coach monte kiffin about hc job
January 4th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Borsilli Eddie Borsilli
by RaidersBlog
I texted Cabel saying that I hoped coming on with Marty wasnt the final straw He texted me back and said “NO me and Al just didnt get along”
January 4th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Bruise, you’re next. No more Cable scholarship players. Things are finally looking up in Raiderland!!
January 4th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
RaidersBlog Chris Hansen
That is really telling text @Borsilli, I believed the Campbell benching may have fractured their relationship.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Bruise, you’re next. No more Cable scholarship players. Things are finally looking up in Raiderland!!
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No chance of that with the cowardly lion at quarterback and the scarecrow running the ship.
January 4th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
Cable admits he didn’t get along with Al.
see ya!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Bring back Gruden!!!!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
RaiderDebo Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Just heard on ESPN that Cable and Al didn’t get along. Never heard that before. I’m sure that “we would have made the playoffs without Jamarcus” comments at the end of the season pissed Davis off. It sure pissed me off. Karma is a biotch!!
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You’re still a little pootbutt who runs his mouth as if he knows everything anyway though, huh?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
Cable is not the reason why the Raiders improved this year, the credit for that belongs to a great draft class, and fantastic OC hire in Hue Jackson, and the emergence of Darren McFadden.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
hue jackson spotted at arbys carrying red flag in his pocket!!!!!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Al Davis want’s the fancy pants football.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
LMAO at you guys calling bringing in Grads a bad decision. If Cable didn’t make that move the season might’ve spiraled completely out of control. We would’ve lost to St. Louis and the next 4 as well.
Campbell got better as the season wore on, but don’t act like the guy is this great talent that was kept on the bench. He was atrocious vs. Tennessee, St. Louis, San Fran, Pittsburgh and pretty much mediocre the rest of the time. When Grads came in early in the year the offense was immensely better. Even the TV announcers doing those early games were stunned at how much better we moved the ball with Grads in there.
It’s obvious that neither Cable nor Hue had faith in Campbell. If Hue is indeed our coach in 2011, as it sure appears, it’ll be very interesting to see who our QB is.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
This move will probably guarantee even more empty seats next year and you can’t blame whats left of the dwindling fan base.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
No more dissin me now. Ya’ll can say the old man is a looney toone, but the geezer picked me #1 baby. Go diss on that, and sure I’ll miss my man TC, but we got JC now go diss on that. I am gonna be great and ya’ll won’t diss on me no mo! eat that and diss on Al. He da man, When he talks, thunder roars from his behind. The man can blow some wind. You seen it, I heard it. Cracks the sky. Go diss on that.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Running a Bruising Offense doesn’t jibe, with Al Davis’ version of Sid Gillman football, I guess?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:06 pm
72.lefty12 Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
This move will probably guarantee even more empty seats next year and you can’t blame whats left of the dwindling fan base.
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And to think Al wasn’t happy with an 8 & 8 season. Wonder how he felt the last 7 years. Pure lunacy.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
71.Chris in NY Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
LMAO at you guys calling bringing in Grads a bad decision. If Cable didn’t make that move the season might’ve spiraled completely out of control. We would’ve lost to St. Louis and the next 4 as well.
Campbell got better as the season wore on, but don’t act like the guy is this great talent that was kept on the bench. He was atrocious vs. Tennessee, St. Louis, San Fran, Pittsburgh and pretty much mediocre the rest of the time. When Grads came in early in the year the offense was immensely better. Even the TV announcers doing those early games were stunned at how much better we moved the ball with Grads in there.
It’s obvious that neither Cable nor Hue had faith in Campbell. If Hue is indeed our coach in 2011, as it sure appears, it’ll be very interesting to see who our QB is.
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That is a good post!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
You guys and the media are missing the point. Al didn’t fire Cable because the Raiders went 8-8. He fired him because he credits Hue with finally getting the offense going after years and years of inept play on that side of the ball. And he didn’t want to lose Hue since he considers him the real reason for our heading in the right direction this year.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
I would say I told you so on Lechler but what’s the point? You f’n inbreeds in denial will just say that comcast made it up.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
After listening to Shane Lechler, those hating on Lechler are just STUPID! Lechler was dead on in his assessment and he has more than saved our bacon the last few years. Sad to see Cable and Cable will win with another team I guarantee you that.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Lechler sounds like he’s bucking to get cut. Don’t think Al will do it though. Unless maybe if he keeps going. Lechler is a fantastic, fantastic punter. But, come on bro, you’re a punter. Slow your roll.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
And what did I tell you guys yesterday, when Cable said, “we’re not losers anymore”? I told you Al would take that personally. Just break down that statement. And Al reads into EVERYTHING!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
77.Chris in NY Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
You guys and the media are missing the point. Al didn’t fire Cable because the Raiders went 8-8. He fired him because he credits Hue with finally getting the offense going after years and years of inept play on that side of the ball. And he didn’t want to lose Hue since he considers him the real reason for our heading in the right direction this year.
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You may be right, I just wish Hue would of had the sack to say, no thanks, I want to finish something I’m a part of.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Chris in NY Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
You guys and the media are missing the point. Al didn’t fire Cable because the Raiders went 8-8. He fired him because he credits Hue with finally getting the offense going after years and years of inept play on that side of the ball. And he didn’t want to lose Hue since he considers him the real reason for our heading in the right direction this year.
…………………..heading in right direction credits go out too jacoby ford,richard seymore,d.mcfadden
January 4th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Enjoyed the Denial, Anger, Acceptance cycle with you guys regarding Lechler today. Too funny.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Al Davis got an ass kiss from Hue Jackson, promising he could make DHB into a superstar. He auditioned in Indy with the 42 pass attempts.
Give him what he wants, take his money.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
81.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
And what did I tell you guys yesterday, when Cable said, “we’re not losers anymore”? I told you Al would take that personally. Just break down that statement. And Al reads into EVERYTHING!
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Like I said, your insight to read between the lines is astounding. Hope you have a ‘career’ day with this one.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
DaRayduh,
That’s a nice sentiment, but the reality is the pay, prestige and power from head coach to coordinator is a pretty immense drop-off. Few if any would take that stance, unless something truly f’d up and shady went down. I don’t think this situation fits that category.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Frame it like this: Has Al made a good decision in the last 10 years? And don’t forget we got Cable because nobody else wanted the job.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Hey stupid what was Sid Gilman football?
There is no one in here that liked Cable more than I did but I cannot understand a few things he did. Somethings he said really pissed me off but I still think he did very good things here some outstanding. But I’m not sure he understood how to give the team an identity on offense. He showed last year when consistently went away from the run week in week out and ignored his best players on the bench. I also grew very tired of his Oline rejects that he would constantly plug in trying to get chicken salad from chicken you know what. I will never miss that crap.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
AIG, Cable’s not going anywhere, at least not as HC. Have you heard even so much as a rumor of one team being even remotely interested in him? Guy’s a good motivator. Big Rollie pollie who the players get behind. So was Bugel. He was an interim HC that Al Davis stuck with to save face, acting as if Cable was his guy all along when he hired Kiffin. Cable might get on with a good team as offensive line coach. That’s as far as he goes from here.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Run first football, is not the “Al Davis style”
January 4th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
I feel sorry for whatever hooker Cable gets tonight.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
You guys and the media are missing the point. Al didn’t fire Cable because the Raiders went 8-8. He fired him because he credits Hue with finally getting the offense going after years and years of inept play on that side of the ball. And he didn’t want to lose Hue since he considers him the real reason for our heading in the right direction this year.
anybody could have done better without lard as russel. hue isnt that good. have him keep running draws in the red zone. he blew a couple of games. we would be in the playoffs
January 4th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
I definitely will not miss his love affair with Cooper Carlisle. I bet he’s calling Cable to get on his coattails again. Because he’s days here are DONE.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
DONE.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:18 pm
cable will be coaching the titans in 2011
January 4th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
KK you don’t know what the Al Davis style is and if you did you’d LIE about it. EVery coach he’s ever hired was a run oriented coach Mike Shanahan, Gruden and Madden even Cable are run oriented coaches.
Stop lying fool.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Run first football, is not the “Al Davis style”
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It’s QB’s league period. Look at the top seeds in the playoffs they all have good QB’s. Cambell is OK at best. His pace is over all two slow and that is just him.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Don’t ufck this up, Al!
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Too late.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
will hue jackson pick favre up at the airport?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
I definitely will not miss his love affair with Cooper Carlisle. I bet he’s calling Cable to get on his coattails again. Because he’s days here are DONE.
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Amen.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
At least Al spared the sports world the overhead projector. I will give him credit for that. Meanwhile, him and his lap-dog hererra can enjoy more years of dysfunction together. and a note for hererra, your diaper duties will get messier before it gets worse.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
You guys and the media are so sure about Hujack I’m not I think maybe even Hue is on his way out. We’ll see what happens but I don’t think it’s a slam dunk as much as is reported.
I think he and Harbaugh have been talking for a while and I think Harbaugh is a VERY strong candidate.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
I just hope we hurry up and name a HC. Al is notorious for waiting until the final possible second and then scrambling because everyone is taken.
The quicker we ge a new HC. The faster the players and fans can get over Cable.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
I think a lot of the support for Cable here comes from the fact that we Raider fans have been so starved for any type of success the last several years, that after an 8-8 record, we look at Cable as the next Lombardi. But in reality, when you step back and look at it, he was just an average coach. I will say this, he at least he got rid of JaMarcus for us.
As far as Hue Jackson is concerned, before we anoint him the next HC, I hope Al Davis watches the Niner, Steeler and Indy games to realize that this guy may not be the best option either.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Jerry, if Norco Bob is banned for threatening to kill me that night, let him back in. We need his input.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Djohnny-99-Bingo.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
priest, why do you want Harbaugh? He’s Gruden all over again.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
I guess I would like to know if Al did this without thinking it through? He would have to have someone in mind before axing Cable wouldn’t he?
Everyone seems to think it’s Hue, but why would Herrera wish him “good luck” on his Niner interview?
If NOT Hue, than who? (bumper sticker idea).
January 4th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
It’s QB’s league period. Look at the top seeds in the playoffs they all have good QB’s. Cambell is OK at best. His pace is over all two slow and that is just him.
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It’s a QB’s league, if you got QB’s.
If you got RB’s run the freakin football.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
104.raidertay Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
I just hope we hurry up and name a HC. Al is notorious for waiting until the final possible second and then scrambling because everyone is taken.
The quicker we ge a new HC. The faster the players and fans can get over Cable.
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You know its his style to drag it on and waste preciuos time, especially for him. It’s mind boggling, the lunacy of it all.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
#102 DaRayduh Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
At least Al spared the sports world the overhead projector.
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It ain’t tomorrow yet!!!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
109.djohnnyg Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
I guess I would like to know if Al did this without thinking it through? He would have to have someone in mind before axing Cable wouldn’t he?
Everyone seems to think it’s Hue, but why would Herrera wish him “good luck” on his Niner interview?
If NOT Hue, than who? (bumper sticker idea).
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hererra speaks from both sodes of his tongue.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
I think what pisses the fan base off is we were finally seeing progress and improvement with a little continuity and the old man just threw it all out the window.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
RMR,
There is a lot of respect around the league for Cable right now. I think TC knew he was a gonna the entire time. The league knew TC turned this thing around and the love from the players will only bolster his chances of at least getting some phone calls. Personally I think he is a perfect fit for Dallas or SD. Dallas will stick to Garrett and I sincerely hope TC does not go to SD.
When Gruden left, I felt like we still had a pretty good roster that can manage itself. TC has built the attitude by convincing Al to get rid of cancers like MeAngelo and others. What TC did is even more impressive imo then Gruden because we have had over 5 years of being the bottom of the league and he was stuck witha fat lazy QB that the owner forced to start. I really think TC wanted one of those 4 OL guys last year and Al forced DHB on him again.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Lefty12,
Agreed. The fans deserved another year of keeping things together to see what can be accomplished.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
“We have not talked to anybody yet,” Raiders senior executive John Herrera told SFGate.com. “Nothing has been done. This was the decision (firing Cable) that had to be made first.”
Former Denver coach Josh McDaniels may also be in the mix in Oakland — FOX Sports’ Nancy Gay tweeted earlier this week that McDaniels “intrigues” the Raiders
January 4th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
AIG, what do you mean there’s a lot of respect around the league for Cable? That’s not what I asked you. I asked you if you heard so much as one rumor of any team even remotely considering CAble as head coach.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Here’s another thing, if Al had this all planned out with bringing in Hue as the HC after this year than why is he interviewing in SF?
Does Al have a plan or this all just flying by the seat of his plastic pants?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Herrera is nothing but a lap dog for the old man.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
114.lefty12 Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
I think what pisses the fan base off is we were finally seeing progress and improvement with a little continuity and the old man just threw it all out the window.
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Thats as simple as is gets.
No real defination for lunacy.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Yeah my main problem…will be if the decision to not keep Cable and promote Hue Jackson will cause the in house free agents to leave like Gallery, Satele, Huff, and Bush.
Than I will be worried.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
We have the 2nd best running production in the league and prob one of the top 3 RB’s in the leauge this year. So why didnt our passing game benefited from it? Is it Hue or JC?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
119.djohnnyg Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Here’s another thing, if Al had this all planned out with bringing in Hue as the HC after this year than why is he interviewing in SF?
Does Al have a plan or this all just flying by the seat of his plastic pants?
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Smoke screens and mysteries.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Good post # 115.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
It took Cable 3 years to get to 8-8. F@!# him.
Gruden improved the team 100% in first season. I look for two things in an NFL head coach. Drastic improvement in record in at least one of his first two seasons, and legitimate SB contenders by 3rd season. I’ll settle for one of those requirements, which is why Miami should keep Tony Soprano. Cable met neither. He’s not for real.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
RMR,
The guy was still employed by the Raiders until a few hours ago so how can you hear rumors about him going to other places. How about we give it a week to see if he gets his name out there? Do you think he is a better motivator than Norv and McDaniel? I do!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Cable had a job until a few hours ago.Why would anyone consider someone who has a job?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
I don’t know if Jackson actually got an offer from the 49ers, or Davis was just played?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
The old man Al better have a plan, by making such a quick decision on not renewing Cable.
He better have Harbaugh or promote Hue in mind.
If he hire someone like Fassell, Fox or McDaniels…I will be pissed….because that means they start all over on offense again, with a new playbook, new terminology and a new play caller and that will only cause the offense to regress from what was accomplished this year.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
LOL at those of you saying Cable wasn’t exactly fired. Nice hair splitting.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Hue has far better chances of being hired as a head coach in the NFL waaaaaay before Cable does.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
This unsettling mystery has made me tired. On the road in a couple of hours. Good luck and God speed.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
LOL at those of you saying Cable wasn’t exactly fired. Nice hair splitting
….he wasnt fired he was laid-off
January 4th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
I asked if anyone heard any rumors of any team being interested in Cable. Guess it’s a no.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Did Jackson actually interview with the 49ers?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Gruden had legit players on his roster. Gruden was not forced to live with Fat Walrus for 2 years. Gruden had at least inherited some decent talent. Who on our roster made the probowl from 2003 to 2009? Shane Lechler was the only constant. The offense was not having problem scoring when Gruden got here. It was the D and Willie Shaw had a lot to do with turning that group around.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
We have the 2nd best running production in the league and prob one of the top 3 RB’s in the leauge this year. So why didnt our passing game benefited from it? Is it Hue or JC?
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JC
January 4th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Cable wasn’t fired, he was exercised his option to be leased out against the 3rd year of what was to be an option year on his 3 year agreement per contract with regards to his tenure in which the Raiders optioned to not tender his option of his tender because technically they decided to not pick up his contract. So, there, he wasn’t fired. I’m smart.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Exactly Lefty. RMR, do you realize that it is considered tempering if you talk about the other team’s hc when he is under contract?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
Gruden had legit players on his roster.
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Cable should have gotten them too, the same way Gruden did. Your case that Cable basically let Al walk all over him is all the more reason to fire him.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Cable laid-off from raiders may re-appear as titans coach.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Some of you in here need to stop acting like Cable was Lombardi, Madden or even Gruden all over again.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
AIG, do you realize that rumors of coaches going to other teams emerge all of the time?
I’ll try again, cause I know you guys are slow.
Have you heard any RUMOR, read: R-U-M-O-U-R, involving any team around the league even being remotely interested in Cable?
PFT.com, even ESPN, all of their columnists and experts, are always mulling over possibilities and rumors floated around by inside sources. I never asked if any team actually openly pursued Cable.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
well i pre-ordered EA Sports Cable 2012 game cartridge!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
DK,
I blame both. Everyone knows I dont believe in JC. However, Hue’s gameplan leaves alot to be desired like against SF or as simple as Indy. We are a ground and pound team and yet Hue continually dial up passes. The only game I can remember Hue playing it perfectly is against SD in SD. We actually took advantage of the playaction in that one.
If you examine our points this year, a lot of it is contributed to our ST and D. For example, we scored 31 against KC but how many of those were the result of our D’s performance.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
135.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
I asked if anyone heard any rumors of any team being interested in Cable. Guess it’s a no.
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They have been saying on NFLN that “many teams” are already interested in him. They didn’t say for a HC gig though.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:42 pm
AIG-is it Hue or JC-a little bit of both.I hope I’m wrong,but I think the Jackson crowd is going to be disappointed if in fact he becomes HC.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Well, there you have it, because I said myself that Cable would get on somewhere as an assistant, just not a HC. Nobody is interested in Cable as an HC.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
You guys and the media are missing the point. Al didn’t fire Cable because the Raiders went 8-8. He fired him because he credits Hue with finally getting the offense going after years and years of inept play on that side of the ball. And he didn’t want to lose Hue since he considers him the real reason for our heading in the right direction this year.
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EXACTLY!
Someone else in here actually gets it!
Hue changed the offense around and brought in new, fresh ideas on offense and added some power blocking, trapping, pulling, and counter schemes mixed with some zone blocking.
If Cable would have stayed on as play caller, he would not have implemented any of those necessary offensive changes and DMC and the offense as a whole doesn’t have a break out year.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Because someone just LIED!!
I know he made great progress and I like Cable but to say we’re doomed because he’s gone is a real stretch I was open to change I didn’t want it but if I can get a coach who’s got great pedigree I was willing to change easy take a year but that doesn’t mean we can’t win 8 games with this roster. If you run the football wit those two HB’s and get the right WR’s to make plays with this defense we can win. There is no doubt in my mind Cable didn’t biuld this team as much as some would like to think Mr Davis did and there are a ton of coaches capable of doing what Cable did a ton of them.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
Cable laid off. LOL. Well, that makes it better. Don’t feel bad, Tom. You weren’t fired. You were laid off.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
We’re not acting like TC is the next Lombardi. We have been suffering from losing over and over again for a looonnnggg time. We deserved an opportunity to have some stability to see what can be done next year. If TC didnt win next year, I have no problem moving on. However, we are now in the gray area.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
atch Cable get ‘Coach of the Year’ award. Wouldn’t that be rich.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
Cable will wind up being the O-Line coach in Cleveland or Carolina or something. Maybe Denver or Seattle.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
AIG, why should Cable have gotten 4 years to get it right, when the industry standard is 3?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Johnny, that would be so funny. Cable getting coach of year. They’ll probably give it to him now just to make Al look bad.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
A good OC coach makes halftime adjustments….can anyone point out to a game this year where we made halftime adjustments and the O produced. Sorry but DMAC, ST, and D inflated Hue’s numbers this year.
I doubt Hue was responsible for DMAC making people miss and going the distance time and again this year.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
We’re not acting like TC is the next Lombardi. We have been suffering from losing over and over again for a looonnnggg time. We deserved an opportunity to have some stability to see what can be done next year. If TC didnt win next year, I have no problem moving on. However, we are now in the gray area.
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If we hire someone other than Hue or Harbaugh as head coach, and lose valuable in house free agents….than it is time to worry.
Promoting Hue maintains continuity….hiring someone like Fassel, Fox or McDaniels does not.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
RMR,
Because 2 of those 3 years he was forced to live with Jawalrus. Name me one coach that would have won with a fat and lazy half drunk Jawalrus. I dare you.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
Tom Cable to replace warren sapp on nfl network
January 4th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
You guys are the ones acting like Jackson is the next Lombardi and the guy hasn’t even ran 1 practice yet.You seem to forget his play calling cost our team 2-3 wins this year.At least we knew we were improving under Cable.Maybe not as fast as you’d have liked,but we improved every year he was our HC.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:46 pm
A good OC coach makes halftime adjustments….can anyone point out to a game this year where we made halftime adjustments and the O produced. Sorry but DMAC, ST, and D inflated Hue’s numbers this year.
I doubt Hue was responsible for DMAC making people miss and going the distance time and again this year.
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Hue was just responsible for designing the plays and implementing blocking schemes that fit to DMC’s strengths and utilized him as a WR by designing far better screen plays….DMC said it himself in an interview last week.
If Cable would have just stuck to his ZBS system….no way DMC goes off like he did.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Some of you in here need to stop acting like Cable was Lombardi, Madden or even Gruden all over again.
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I don’t think anybody said he was, or acted like he was.
Just saying, the Raiders were 6-0 in the division, and hadn’t beaten SD in what, 10 years?
Keep it going.
We don’t know a damned thing about Hue Jacksons ability as a Head Coach
January 4th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Cable wasnt exactly fired, his contract was up and was not renewed. Thats why he wasnt fired last year, because he was under contract. Davis just waited until his contract is up. He wasnt exactly the next Bill Parcells anyway.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Fox hates AD and he will not come back.
McDaniel ruined the Broncos. He made them worst.
Harbaugh has way too much ego to have to work with Al. He can write his own ticket for SF and he’ll prob go there.
Hue – Homie better be at least 10-6 next year but I doubt it if he is stuck with JC. My hunch is the players dont think highly of him at all based on Lechler’s interview. I’m just going off a hunch.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Lefty,
If it was between Cable and Hue who would you rather have?
If we lose Hue, then a whole new offensive coordinator comes in with a whole new playbook the offense has to learn again with whole new terminology and Campbell would be on his 7 play caller in 7 years practically. Offensive continuity would be lost.
Not good.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
# aig-raiders Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Fox hates AD and he will not come back.
McDaniel ruined the Broncos. He made them worst.
Harbaugh has way too much ego to have to work with Al. He can write his own ticket for SF and he’ll prob go there.
Hue – Homie better be at least 10-6 next year but I doubt it if he is stuck with JC. My hunch is the players dont think highly of him at all based on Lechler’s interview. I’m just going off a hunch.
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If Hue gets hired and doesn’t get the job done….then he will be gone to.
That’s what AD Football Inc is all about isn’t it? LOL
I will start worrying if the team loses a lot of their house free agents because of Cable. Ugh
January 4th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
RMR,
Because 2 of those 3 years he was forced to live with Jawalrus.
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No, he wasn’t.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Lefty,
If it was between Cable and Hue who would you rather have?
…………….if it was between cable and satelite which would you rather have?
January 4th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
While that’s true lefty12 he had a lot to work with and some of it he didn’t even use. I hate changing coaches but I feel we are much more ready to handle it now than any time before. Regardless to what the punter said he doesn’t run this team he PUNTS. If Seymour had spoken up or Bush or someone like Nnamdi I’d be a lot more concerned if they don’t that tells me either they don’t care or now that it’s done they’re more interested in who’s next than losing Cable.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
I also think there’s a chance Hue isn’t the next HC.
When Herrera confirmed that the Raiders had allowed Hue to interview for the Niners job, Herrera said, “we’re very happy for him”.
There COULD be a chance the next HC is Harbaugh, or maybe Gruden. We really wont know yet.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
# KoolKell Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
Some of you in here need to stop acting like Cable was Lombardi, Madden or even Gruden all over again.
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I don’t think anybody said he was, or acted like he was.
Just saying, the Raiders were 6-0 in the division, and hadn’t beaten SD in what, 10 years?
Keep it going.
We don’t know a damned thing about Hue Jacksons ability as a Head Coach
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The team would have never beaten the division opponents if Cable was still calling the plays IMO.
I agree…I would have liked to have seen Cable AND Hue stay….but it looks like only one of them can be kept.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
depcharger Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Cable wasnt exactly fired,
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We went over this.
His contract just wasn’t renewed, due to the Raiders wishing to not exercise their option to retain his services for additional seasons, because they didn’t want to renegotiate the terms of the contract since they were not going to renew the extension of the previous contract pursuant to the new contract in terms of the old contract in which the new contract nullified the terms. Dumbasses.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Hey Tom Cable, don’t feel bad, you weren’t technically fired.
Technically, the Raiders merely chose not to renew your contract. Have your locker cleaned out by the end of the day.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
I’d take the known over the unknown at this point.If Jackson left it wouldn’t necessarily mean the offense would go with him,but who is to say Jackson was leaving.The whiners are pushing hard for Harbaugh and I also heard if he doesn’t go there,Manwearing or Billick are their next choices.
January 4th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
# GG Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
I also think there’s a chance Hue isn’t the next HC.
When Herrera confirmed that the Raiders had allowed Hue to interview for the Niners job, Herrera said, “we’re very happy for him”.
There COULD be a chance the next HC is Harbaugh, or maybe Gruden. We really wont know yet.
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It better be Harbaugh, Hue or Gruden.
Anyone else would just blow!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
F’n Gruden hell f’n yeh!!! Please!!!!
January 4th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
You guys and the media are missing the point. Al didn’t fire Cable because the Raiders went 8-8. He fired him because he credits Hue with finally getting the offense going after years and years of inept play on that side of the ball. And he didn’t want to lose Hue since he considers him the real reason for our heading in the right direction this year.
^^^^^^^^
EXACTLY!
Someone else in here actually gets it!
Hue changed the offense around and brought in new, fresh ideas on offense and added some power blocking, trapping, pulling, and counter schemes mixed with some zone blocking.
If Cable would have stayed on as play caller, he would not have implemented any of those necessary offensive changes and DMC and the offense as a whole doesn’t have a break out year.
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This is right on. The part that really pisses me off about Cable is that he scapegoated Jamarcus for last year’s offensive struggles instead of his ineptititude as an OC and his decision to start two rookies (who may never turn out to be good) at WR. That was my biggest problem with the guy. He was a finger pointer. He preached accountability, but wasn’t accountable. Good riddance!
January 5th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Let’s go over the offense’s production this year. A lot of those points came from the 2 times we played vs Den and scorings by ST and D.
DMAC committed himself to training in AZ last offseason and he came back a new man. Sure the screen plays were great but how many times did we see DMAC singlehandedly make tacklers miss and go the distance or take a simple checkdown and go the distance. IMO, DMAC inflated JC and Hue’s numbers this year.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:01 am
priesttj Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
Look what Raheem Morris has done down in Tampa that is what Mr Davis is trying to get done. Someone who can maximize the talent on this team.
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Are you kidding me??? What has Raheem done …they only beat one team over .500 and that was the Saints on the last game of the season who laid down.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:02 am
scapegoat jamarcus?
what the hell?
tell me something, genius. How many teams have jumped at the chance to take Jamarcus?
yeah, zero. same as your thought process
January 5th, 2011 at 12:03 am
Maybe he has Harbaugh lined up, wishful thinking, wait and see time, RIP A Davis
January 5th, 2011 at 12:04 am
DK-you keep saying if Cable was still calling plays.Why,that isn’t even in the equation?He GLADLY gave that responsibility up after last season.We really don’t know that anyone brought in as OC/play caller wouldn’t have done just as well or maybe even better.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:04 am
# aig-raiders Says:
January 5th, 2011 at 12:00 am
Let’s go over the offense’s production this year. A lot of those points came from the 2 times we played vs Den and scorings by ST and D.
DMAC committed himself to training in AZ last offseason and he came back a new man. Sure the screen plays were great but how many times did we see DMAC singlehandedly make tacklers miss and go the distance or take a simple checkdown and go the distance. IMO, DMAC inflated JC and Hue’s numbers this year.
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Makes zero sense…..Ugh
Hue Jackson came in asked the offensive players what their strenghts were…specififally DMC.
So Hue, implements plays to take advantage and utilzie those talents. DMC said so himself in an interview last week.
No way DMC does what he did this year, if we ran the ZBS to the right and to the left every running play like we did when Cable was calling plays.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:04 am
Free Agent Ties to New Oakland Raiders Coaches Osi Umenyiora – Disgruntled NYG possible trade bait
January 5th, 2011 at 12:05 am
How many wins was this team supposed to have?
January 5th, 2011 at 12:05 am
Well I didnt expect TC back but the reality hit hard tonite when the moment finally came. You guys have a good nite and AIG has always stood for Al-is-God. Hopefully AD has something up his sleeve. At least make it Hue so that we get some continuity. Later all.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:05 am
# lefty12 Says:
January 5th, 2011 at 12:04 am
DK-you keep saying if Cable was still calling plays.Why,that isn’t even in the equation?He GLADLY gave that responsibility up after last season.We really don’t know that anyone brought in as OC/play caller wouldn’t have done just as well or maybe even better.
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The old man Al wanted and hired Hue, Cable didn’t….the only reason Cable was fine with it…was because Cable wanted to keep his job.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:06 am
Tampa is by far the youngets team in the league and they played extremely well if you can’t see that then maybe you can’t see. That team is not that talented and they were very competitive.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:07 am
RaiderDebo Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:58 pm
DKnight007 Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
The part that really pisses me off about Cable is that he scapegoated Jamarcus for last year’s offensive struggles instead of his ineptititude as an OC and his decision to start two rookies (who may never turn out to be good) at WR. That was my biggest problem with the guy. He was a finger pointer. He preached accountability, but wasn’t accountable. Good riddance!
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Here we go again … JaMarcus lovers are back.
HELLO … if JaMarcus is so great how come no other teams picked him up … including the Arena league … or the CFL.
Your true colors are showing.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:10 am
priesttj Says:
January 5th, 2011 at 12:06 am
Tampa is by far the youngets team in the league and they played extremely well if you can’t see that then maybe you can’t see. That team is not that talented and they were very competitive.
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When you can’t beat a team over .500 how can you be competitive?
January 5th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Raiders should keep Tom Cable as O-line coach.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Mr Davis always likes the HC to be the OC.He can recommend plays to him or get messages sent directly .
January 5th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Cable didn’t want to continue to call the plays.I don’t care who hired who.All I’m saying is we don’t know that if someone else had been hired to call the plays,they would have been as good as or better than HJ.I don’t agree that he did such a great job-he was too inconsistent-great one week,absolutely horrible the next.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:14 am
Here’s the problem … Cable is not the best coach just like Campbell is not the best QB but unless you can get someone better … why replaced them?
January 5th, 2011 at 12:14 am
It’ll be interesting to see how much freedom the next HC gets..
Whatever decision is made… Al Davis better hit the front page with this next move.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:15 am
al davis never hires a head coach till after the superbowl
January 5th, 2011 at 12:17 am
There were times when I was extremely frustrated with Hue even in the KC beatdown why a reverse on the first play from scrimmage?
January 5th, 2011 at 12:18 am
When you look at it McDaniels is an interesting option.With the Raiders,he wouldn’t be able to trade the team away,he would just be the coach.I could actually see Davis making a move for him and keep HJ as the OC.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Here we go again … JaMarcus lovers are back.
HELLO … if JaMarcus is so great how come no other teams picked him up … including the Arena league … or the CFL.
Your true colors are showing.
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He’ll be back here in the next week or so. My sources tell me so.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:20 am
# priesttj Says:
January 5th, 2011 at 12:17 am
There were times when I was extremely frustrated with Hue even in the KC beatdown why a reverse on the first play from scrimmage?
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Yeah, normally I’m like Jerry Mac, execution, not playcalls. but some of Hue’s calls were definite head scratchers.
Was hoping it got better with experience
January 5th, 2011 at 12:25 am
Matt Leinart says he’s ready to be a starter
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 4, 2011, 6:51 PM EST
After a season where Matt Leinart was cut in favor of Derek Anderson and sat on the bench behind Dan Orlovsky (and Matt Schaub), Leinart believes he’s ready to take the next step in his career.
“I want to be a starter in the league, and I feel like I’ve paid my dues,” Leinart told the Houston Chronicle. “I sat for three and a half years now and played behind a Hall of Fame quarterback [Kurt Warner] which a lot of people don’t remember. Obviously, coming here is not the way I planned, but I think Matt Schaub is a great quarterback.”
Leinart said he learned a lot in Houston, but sounds ready to move on. While there won’t be a lot of great free agent quarterbacks available.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:34 am
Cable just wanted to drag out the gravy train he was on. He often deflected blame to others. Anyway, as DkNight pointed out, Hue doing what he did with the offense right away, showed up Cable’s own limitations as a coach as well as highlight Jackson’s good X&O ability. Cable fumbled and bumbled from game to game. He engineered so many horrendous games, 2009 and 2010.
January 5th, 2011 at 12:37 am
new post
January 5th, 2011 at 1:00 am
[...] going to influence a lot of guys’ decisions,” Lechler said told Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. “You’re going to for darned sure lose Robert Gallery now. You’re going to lose Michael Bush [...]
January 5th, 2011 at 1:04 am
At 8-8 TC was not a loser, but he was not a winner either.
January 5th, 2011 at 1:22 am
[...] going to influence a lot of guys’ decisions,” Lechler said told Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. “You’re going to for darned sure lose Robert Gallery now. You’re going to lose Michael Bush [...]
January 5th, 2011 at 2:15 am
Holy Toledo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just woke up and found out.
This decision is a setback no matter how you look at it.
Al’s going to have a whole lot more disgruntled fans-not that he gives a s$$t .
The only way this is acceptable for me is if Al has Harbaugh on the end of his fishing line.
January 5th, 2011 at 2:17 am
WHAT ARE YOU EFFIN WELL DOING AL?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 5th, 2011 at 2:29 am
Al has been quiet all season. Not a word from him and he has kept himself in the background.
He just wanted to show that he actually calls the shots and get some attention.
Maybe he didn’t like Cable and Jackson getting credit for a great draft and improved offense?
January 5th, 2011 at 2:31 am
We have avoided drama all year, except for the QB issues, and we have improved.
Insert drama….chaos on the way and a demise into the darkness and lack of structure and focus once again.
January 5th, 2011 at 2:33 am
If it’s Hue, then it is definitely a setback.
Jackson has done wonders with the offensive scoring but part of that has been that McFadden has been healthy and Campbell has settled in more and improved his game.
With some games Hue’s play calling was downright terrible (e.g. the Indy game).
Jackson manned up and admitted this himself. He even gave himself a “C” for the year.
He may become a good head coach over time but for the Nation it’s back to waiting.
Just like the Raiders, Hue is a work in progress and is probably not ready to be a head coach.
Yes, he’s improved the offense but has had some terrible offweeks.
Take the trick play reverse with Ford at the beginning of the last game.
Everyone in the world smelled that play out.
Hue is like the great new baseball pitcher who hitters start to figure out.
If it’s Hue then it’s likely to be just as big a setback as when Cable first started.
If it’s Harbaugh then its a bold new long-term plan for the future and Al, nearing 82, has decided to relinquish some control and take it a little easier-we can dream can’t we?
Al might just want to set his son and the Raiders up for the future-plus he can take credit for hiring Harbaugh.
Al can get Harbaugh if he gives him what he wouldn’t give Gruden.
He might even wave a potential piece of the team in the future in Harbaugh’s face.
After all, that’s how Al first got part of the team.
January 5th, 2011 at 5:55 am
[...] that multiple coaching moves have brought over the years. A couple of Oakland players talked to the Oakland Tribune last night in opposition to Cable’s firing and there is some indication that key Oakland players [...]
January 5th, 2011 at 7:07 am
[...] free agency. You’re going to for darned sure lose Robert Gallery now,” Lechler told the Oakland Tribune. “You’re going to lose Michael Bush now, for sure. You’re going to lose a bunch [...]
January 5th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Had to gall the old coot to hear Schottenheimer credit Cable for turning the culture of the team around; basically implying that the team didn’t even understand the basics of how to win.
Couple that with Cable’s “We’re not losers anymore” comment and Al had to be spluttering to his minions.
January 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
January 4th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Will Condo’s damage never cease?!
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I dont understand your beef with Condo… You need to find someone who is worthy of being picked on…
…or are you just a douche?