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Campbell: Issue was between Davis-Cable

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, January 5th, 2011 at 10:38 am in Oakland Raiders.

NOTE: Both ESPN and CSN-Bay Area have reported Hue Jackson is interviewing with the 49ers today, which means he was not immediately rubber-stamped as the Raiders head coach. My understanding is that Jackson, however, expects to be talking with Raiders owner Al Davis very soon.

In contrast to some teammates who are upset over the decision to change coaches, Jason Campbell sounded cool and detached Wednesday morning when analyzing the demise of Tom Cable.

Campbell, a guest on SiriusXM’s “Mad Dog Radio,” said he learned late last night via text messages from teammates that Cable had not been renewed.

“I think it probably came down to the relationship between Mr. Davis and coach Cable, and their view on things and how they saw things,” Campbell said. “I didn’t really get a chance to see that, because I was always in offensive meetings and I got there late in the offseason so I really didn’t get a chance to be around coach Cable a whole lot one-on-one and be around Mr. Davis one-on-one.

“Most of my focus was on the field and being around the young guys. The decision was made and I’m pretty sure it just came down to Mr. Davis and coach Cable and they probably sat down and talked about it, and that’s where they went.”

Considering Cable was on a Sirius show a short time before the announcement and was hopeful of keeping his job, the conversation couldn’t have amounted to much other than a “Thanks, but no thanks” message either to Cable or his agent.

During that show, Cable spoke of Campbell’s development over the course of the season and in his final press briefing suggested benching him for Bruce Gradkowski actually helped in terms of his play. Yet at the same time, Cable made it clear Campbell wasn’t a quarterback who could carry a game on his shoulders without the kind of support he received when the Raiders were running well.

“The quarterback position here is solid,” Cable said. “You’ve got to be wise enough to understand what it takes for them to succeed. To me, it’s a run game. We’re going to throw the ball vertical here. Our play-action game allows us to do that.

“So we need a good manager at quarterback. No question Jason proved in the last six weeks of the season that he has command of what we’re asking him to do, and he’s able to control it and lead this team. As long as you do the things around him, meaning run the football, run the football, run the football, and let him explode with deep passes, we have a chance because we certainly have some talent at the receivers position.”

When Campbell was benched for the first time at halftime of a Week 2 win over St. Louis, Jackson said the switch was made at his recommendation. Following the season-ending win in Kansas City, however, he spoke his developing relationship with Jackson as a coordinator.

“Most definitely we have a better feel for each other,” Campbell said. “You don’t just come in out o the middle of nowhere and somehow light it up. It takes time to get to know each other, to know my strengths and what I can do well and what I need to work on.”

During his last press session with beat writers heading into the Chiefs game, Jackson said he was impressed with Campbell’s development as a quarterback who can do more than drop back and deliver.

“I think Jason is a young man who can stand in the pocket and throw it and obviously has the ability to move around and throw the ball,” Jackson said. “I am surprised by his mobility to make plays outside the pocket. He’s done it, but not to the extent that he’s doing it now. He’s really done a good job. He really has. I think Jason has really grown into this role for our football team. Im very excited about his future and what he can be in 2011.”

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453 Responses to “Campbell: Issue was between Davis-Cable”

  1. DMAC Says:

    primero

  2. DMAC Says:

    So when do we bring in………..

    http://coacheshotseat.com/coacheshotseatblog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/JimHarbaugh.jpg

  3. aig-raiders Says:

    Dakota,

    If I wasnt following the Raiders of the past 7 years, I’d think you’re right. However, you tend to forget where we have been for the past 7 years. I for one believe that the QB plays a very important position on the team. I dont believe we have a legit “starting” QB in Oakland. We’ve come from being the laughing stock of the league and you actually used to say that last year. To being a very competitive team that finally made it to mediocrity without a legit starting QB and a very young roster from the past 2 years.

    I dug up the Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson. 1989 1-15, 90 7-9, 91 11-5. TC is not JJ. However, JJ had Troy Aikman during those 3 years. TC had Jawalrus for 2 and the Fake Plunkett for the other. I think TC overachieved with our roster.

  4. RaidingTexas Says:

    SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Because each group has to deal with a way past his prime old man who insists he still knows how to run things best?

    ————————–

    Pretty close. One has a coach that’s 83 years old and has no idea what he is doing. The other has an owner in the same situation . . . age maybe slightly different.

  5. RaidingTexas Says:

    Aig, I have to agree with you. I posted it here earlier. Cable was hamstrung by a junkie QB, an injury-prone duckball QB, and an inconsistent slow-to-move checkdown QB.

  6. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    repost:If I was Shane Lechler, I’d be thinking about the clause in his contract that AD successfully used to fire Kiffin with cause and not pay him.

  7. HayesDaze37 Says:

    repost

    Tom Cable?? Thanks for the hard work…and congratulations on surviving, and reviving, your career. Here’s wishing you the best, and I hope you find a great job in a hurry.

    Al Davis’ treatment of Tom Cable?? Al helped Cable stay in football (not just the NFL, but in football), when he nearly lost all hope of doing so. The allegations from within — and without — the Organization were so serious, it would’ve been easy and understandable for Cable to lose his job anywhere else.

    It may seem cold to axe Cable now…and I think he could’ve/should’ve stayed at least one more year…but Al gave Tom the room to settle into his work, and gave him the relative security of the thick walls in Alameda when all other walls were tumbling down.

    Tom Cable has a future thanks to Al Davis.

    And the Raiders are going to be alright when the dust settles again.

  8. HairyBush Says:

    not sure what to think

  9. Chioeke 3 Says:

    Keeping Jackson will mean continuity for the team. If Jackson goes it will be the 3rd offensive scheme in three years. Team just learning how to move the ball. Will keep the same D as this year. It looks more like a strategic move Al had to make to keep the team moving in the right direction.

  10. RaydaSwagger Says:

    WTH! Speechless. Here we go again.

  11. Dakota Says:

    Now step 2….replace the turd coaches like Marshall, Fassel, Lal and Roll.

  12. Chris in NY Says:

    Unless he gets much, much better in the off-season, if Campbell is our unquestioned QB again in 2011 don’t expect any better than 8-8.

    Endless indecision and constant checkdowns from teh QB position will keep you from being a legit contender in this league.

  13. aig-raiders Says:

    541.McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:38 am
    Can anyone point out to any part of this year where Hue Jack came back with a good halftime adjustment?

    ——————-
    How about the first KC game when we were down 10 -0 and scored 23pts in the second half to win.

    ———————–
    McRaider,

    You can’t be serious. You’re talking about one of our worst offensive performance this year. Ford on ST took one back for 7. And Ford became superman and bailed out JC twice from sure ints. Failed. Try again.

  14. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Why do people want to get ride of Bones Fassell?

    Our kicker lead the NFL in points, our punter made the pro bowl, we gave up 1 ST touchdown and we scored 4 plus a safety, and were +2 in the ST turnover department.

    Damn good job from Bones!!!

  15. Chris in NY Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:48 am
    Now step 2….replace the turd coaches like Marshall, Fassel, Lal and Roll.

    —————————–

    Why was Fassel so bad? We scored 4 TDs on special teams this season plus a safety. Lechler is headed back to the Pro Bowl. Condo continues to be flawless. And Janikowski set a franchise record for points by a kicker.

    What’s the problem?

    The coverage units have been solid, IMO. We gave up a TD to Arizona and the long runback against the Jags, which stung. But I don’t recall another big return against us all year. I don’t even recall a kick returner getting it past the 50 against us this season other than the two I already noted.

  16. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    How the hell do you downgrade from Cable? Let Al find a way!

  17. Chris in NY Says:

    Wow, Just fire Baby,

    Great minds think alike.

  18. GG Says:

    The real winner in all that happened yesterday was Swayze Waters.

  19. aig-raiders Says:

    5.RaidingTexas Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:44 am
    Aig, I have to agree with you. I posted it here earlier. Cable was hamstrung by a junkie QB, an injury-prone duckball QB, and an inconsistent slow-to-move checkdown QB.

    ———————-

    Are you sure you’re the same dude I’ve been disagreeing with all year on JC? Who took over your body? just kiddin. Thanks man.

  20. aig-raiders Says:

    Here is a fair question…..

    How many games must the new HC win next year to meet expectations?

    I say must be at least 10-6.

  21. Just Fire Baby Says:

    LOL Chris.

    Just standard fodder around these parts.

    When things fail, no matter what, blame the O-line, Cooper Carlisle, Fassel and Sanjay Lal.

  22. Toyz Says:

    We all know that AD is about money so cutting Cable saves 2.5 mil, moving Hue to HC will mean not hireing an OC (saves money)and AD is going to need all the money he can get to keep are key free agents and go after others.

  23. r8eray Says:

    So I guess this means we’re keeping Campbell for our 2011 campaign??

  24. Dakota Says:

    15.Chris in NY Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:48 am
    Now step 2….replace the turd coaches like Marshall, Fassel, Lal and Roll.

    —————————–

    Why was Fassel so bad? We scored 4 TDs on special teams this season plus a safety. Lechler is headed back to the Pro Bowl. Condo continues to be flawless. And Janikowski set a franchise record for points by a kicker.

    What’s the problem?

    The coverage units have been solid, IMO. We gave up a TD to Arizona and the long runback against the Jags, which stung. But I don’t recall another big return against us all year. I don’t even recall a kick returner getting it past the 50 against us this season other than the two I already noted.
    +++++++++++

    I may have to revisit Fassel….but ST performance last season was a huge fall off from the last coach. Maybe I have not let that go yet. lol

  25. ibcode3 Says:

    Aren’t we all forgetting what went on in training camp. The players saying Hue was challenging the players and Cable just watched. No interaction from Cable with the line or Offense.
    Training camp was different and all you could hear is Hue with the players on both O & D.

    Cable knew he was gone at this point. The Nation knew we would win more games this season.

  26. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Okay Hue haters, here are the offensive ranks 09 vs. 10:
    First downs: 234 – 306
    Total yds: 4258 – 5674
    Sacks: 49 – 44
    TDs: 17 – 44
    FGs: 26 – 33

    Who gives a flying shag about halftime adjustments?

  27. DMAC Says:

    I wonder if Jim Fassel is writing another letter to Al?

  28. DMAC Says:

    PUKE

  29. Pretty Rick Says:

    If I was Shane Lechler I’d shut the f up or we’ll have a new head coach and a new punter for the 2011 season.

  30. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:34 am
    The game against seattle where we pulled away i the second half showed me that hu-jack does make good adjustments at half time. he decided to throw deep in the second half and it worked. I also saw it in the first kc game, we scrapped the wild cat and played it straight up and pulled it out at the end.

    people in here are hating on hu-jack the same way they hated on jc.

    Davis knows better than you.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I am Al Davis and I approve of this message.

    Listen to this guy’s crap. No one talks that way
    ===========================================================

    Spare us. You were wrong about jc and grads, and now your bitter because cbale has been shown the door. I know you cant stand the fact that i was right abut jc being the best qb on this team. i also called cable getting the axe, stop crying ad get over it. score board reads SupaVillain 1 englander 0

  31. DKnight007 Says:

    Just got to hope that the looney old man will be able to keep the in house free agents!

    Hiring Harbaugh or Hue would be the best way to go to keep the in house free agents here!

    If this team loses most of it’s in house free agents….it will be no good.

  32. DMAC Says:

    # Pretty Rick Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    If I was Shane Lechler I’d shut the f up or we’ll have a new head coach and a new punter for the 2011 season.
    ===========
    If they want a guaranteed 35 yard punt every time, them I’m your guy
    + I’ll sign pretty cheap too

  33. ibcode3 Says:

    the pre-season punter on the field was pretty good. Whatever happened to him. Might have to bring him back

  34. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Here’s Tommy Cable’s resume per year as a Raider:

    07- O-line coach, immediately upgraded a disasterous O-line that was previously coached by two HOF O-lineman (Shell and Slater) in one offseason. Takes rushing from 29th in the league to 6th, and decreases sacks from 72 down to 41.

    08- Fills in admirably and stays a true Oakland Raider soldier in the midst of the grease-fire that was Lane Kiffin. Got the team to fight hard at the end of the year, and got the most out of Jamarcus Russell at the end of the year.

    09- Fails to improve record-wise, but is hamstrung by Jamarcus’ immaturity. Still wins a few games towards the end of the year to keep job.

    10- Takes team to best record in 7 years, transforms team into a physically dominating team, while seamlessly taking less of a role specifically on offense and focus’ in on team goals. 6-0 division, including mostly beat downs, for first team in over 7 years as well.

    Seems pretty solid to me.

  35. DKnight007 Says:

    26.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:58 am
    Okay Hue haters, here are the offensive ranks 09 vs. 10:
    First downs: 234 – 306
    Total yds: 4258 – 5674
    Sacks: 49 – 44
    TDs: 17 – 44
    FGs: 26 – 33

    Who gives a flying shag about halftime adjustments?

    ^^^^^^^
    EXACTLY!

  36. Raider75 Says:

    Tom Cable f’d up the handling of Russell.

    Davis would not allow him to do it to another one of his hand-picked QBs.

  37. M Lonetree Says:

    In Cable’s own words…”no more coulda shoulda woulda”, he didn’t.

    Cable, “stay the course…”
    08 – 3rd place in AFC west
    09 – 3rd place in AFC west
    10 – 3rd place in AFC west

  38. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    “I think Jason is a young man who can stand in the pocket and throw it and obviously has the ability to move around and throw the ball,” Jackson said. “I am surprised by his mobility to make plays outside the pocket. He’s done it, but not to the extent that he’s doing it now. He’s really done a good job. He really has. I think Jason has really grown into this role for our football team. Im very excited about his future and what he can be in 2011.” – Hu Jack

    This should shut down all the garbage about hu jack vs. campbell. it is clear Hu jack and campbell are on the same page. why arent you?

  39. aig-raiders Says:

    Macho

    John Gruden once said halftime adjustments are key to winning games. I believe he is 100% correct. I looked at our scoring this entire year and I believe the 2 games vs Den way over inflated our stats.

  40. J Hill Says:

    Aren’t we all forgetting what went on in training camp. The players saying Hue was challenging the players and Cable just watched. No interaction from Cable with the line or Offense.
    Training camp was different and all you could hear is Hue with the players on both O & D.

    —————————————————–

    Exactly!

  41. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Shane Lechler would be the league’s highest paid punter for ANY team because he’s the best at what he does. He can say whatever he wants and if Al Davis cans him, he’ll have the opportunity to sign on with a more stable franchise that has an oppotunity to win a ring – same with Nnamdi Asomugha

    these guys have ZERO reason to keep their traps shut

  42. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Mistic1,

    What happens when Cable is gone, Bruce is a FA, and Hue still makes it happen that we re-sign him to be the backup at worse?

    I think this will happen. May not, but Bruce seemed a lot more comfortable with the coaching change than just about any other player that went on record the last two days.

  43. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    reads hue knows jc is al’s plunkett. yes man.

  44. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I think Al messed up Cable’s contract with his TV contract:

    Herrera: You wanna renew the Cable contract?
    Al: Naw, Im going Directv
    Herrera to Cable: Hey fat monkey, pak it up, your outta here!

  45. DKnight007 Says:

    Making quick IN GAME adjustments before and after halftime are the KEY to winning games IMO!

    That’s what the elite teams in this league do.

    They make adjustments within the game if necessary and don’t wait until freakin halftime!

  46. DKnight007 Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:05 am
    Aren’t we all forgetting what went on in training camp. The players saying Hue was challenging the players and Cable just watched. No interaction from Cable with the line or Offense.
    Training camp was different and all you could hear is Hue with the players on both O & D.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!

  47. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Aig:

    Please spare me the halftime adj. talk. Hue took an offense that ranked 30th or worse for more than 3 years and made it top 10. is he Bill Walsh? nope. Will Al ever hire Bill Walsh talent? nope squared buddy.

  48. Toyz Says:

    Now step 2….replace the turd coaches like Marshall, Fassel, Lal and Roll.

    ============================================================

    Marshall is next to be shown the door and Waffle will be moved to DC (another way AD saves money)

  49. McRaider5150 Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    Another messenger from 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway.

    Look at this obvious stuff too-especially the last sentence.

    Just go away and pick up Al’s check idiot.
    ________________________________

    ENGLANDRAIDER????? You stupid!!!!!!

    First, my last comment was a joke. I never lived in a Trailor Park, but I have lived in the hood.

    Second, I don’t live in oakland or in the area anymore.

    Third, I am not a huge Al Davis fan. I am a Raider fan.

    Damn, you don’t have to get so angry over me asking you a simple questions.

  50. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jason Campbell seems pretty slimy.

    Played waaaay better once there was no competition with Bruce hurt, never warmed to the HC, only to the OC who MIGHT become HC if the team didn’t play well. Immediately after traded, declared himself the starter and had to have Herrera quiet him down.

    Nice to have a career 40% winner pulling stings behind the scenes!!!

  51. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Mistic1,

    What happens when Cable is gone, Bruce is a FA, and Hue still makes it happen that we re-sign him to be the backup at worse?

    I think this will happen. May not, but Bruce seemed a lot more comfortable with the coaching change than just about any other player that went on record the last two days.
    ========================================================

    i dont care, Hu jack knows like davis and i know, adn you and most others didnt know. hu jack and jc are here to stay and they will be good together.

    Al Hu jack and jc have the impostors on the run!!!

  52. M Lonetree Says:

    likely 2011 schedule will have a Sept game in Miami, Dec games in Green Bay, Buffalo and Denver, yep.

  53. r8eray Says:

    Raiders OC Hue Jackson reportedly expects to speak with owner Al Davis “very soon,” despite his Wednesday interview for the 49ers’ head coaching vacancy.
    Jackson is satisfying the Rooney Rule for San Francisco this morning so that new GM Trent Baalke can move on Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh. Worth adding: Michigan athletic director Dave Brandon told the press Wednesday that he’s convinced Harbaugh — a Michigan alum — is headed to the NFL. Jackson remains the heavy favorite to replace Tom Cable as Raiders coach.

  54. DMAC Says:

    # M Lonetree Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    likely 2011 schedule will have a Sept game in Miami, Dec games in Green Bay, Buffalo and Denver, yep.
    ========
    No worries.
    We smash opponents in cold weather.

  55. aig-raiders Says:

    So has Hue demonstrated any adjustments this year that have been talked about or we are aware of. We know he absolutely stunk it up in his gameplanning vs SF, Mia and Indy. How many times did his wildcat screwed us this year?

  56. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    also remember jc not talking to any teammates only looking glumly on sidelines. also remember him all but sliding 10 yards before anyone was around him and almost taking a knee during a live play.

  57. Just Fire Baby Says:

    i dont care,

    ******************************

    I highly doubt that.

    You don’t want Bruce anywhere near this team, you said so many times, and there is a good chance your new HC makes sure he comes back next year to play the same role he did this year.

  58. Raider75 Says:

    lol!!! From twitter…

    RealSkipBayless Skip Bayless
    by cottovic
    Can’t get worked up about Al firing Cable. It’s Tom Cable! Laughingstock when hired! Think he’ll go win SBowl elsewhere? Will even get job?

  59. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jackson is satisfying the Rooney Rule for San Francisco this morning so that new GM Trent Baalke can move on Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh

    ***

    ray,

    where did you get this from?

    and who will Al Davis pursue after Hue Jax satisfies the Rooney Rule for Oakland?

  60. J Hill Says:

    Nice to have a career 40% winner pulling stings behind the scenes!!!

    —————————————————–

    Young B has a photo of them, remember?

    Little did he know what really going on at that table, lol.

  61. DKnight007 Says:

    Toyz Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:09 am
    Now step 2….replace the turd coaches like Marshall, Fassel, Lal and Roll.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Lal and Roll for sure!

  62. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    and he’s not very accurate to boot.

  63. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Jason Campbell seems pretty slimy.

    Played waaaay better once there was no competition with Bruce hurt, never warmed to the HC, only to the OC who MIGHT become HC if the team didn’t play well. Immediately after traded, declared himself the starter and had to have Herrera quiet him down.

    Nice to have a career 40% winner pulling stings behind the scenes!!!
    ========================================================

    JFB,

    Sour grapes dont make good whine, so save it.

    Jc earned his position by virtue of his play on the field. You didnt know he could play, i tried to tell you he could. we will know more after next year.

    I know you arent a hu jack guy either, but its a joke. from bottom feeders to a feared offensive force in one year.

    Hu Jack & Jc are whuppin your a$$ today!

  64. RaiderRockstar Says:

    75,

    somewhere along the line, Cable must have given Skip Bayless a broken jaw …

  65. M Lonetree Says:

    DMAC,

    just throwing different logs on the fire as otherwise the ad nauseum commentaries on Cable’s exit can get a bit boring. 8)

  66. DKnight007 Says:

    Rumors are saying that Harbaugh is going to be asking for about 6 million a year to coach the lousy Niners!

    6 million a year?? WOW!

    If Harbaugh gets that much money, he better win and get into the playoffs by year 2 at the very least!

  67. Raider O Says:

    Fire Marshall and Lal now!

  68. aig-raiders Says:

    Macho.

    You look at stats as a whole. I try to break it down into smaler pieces. Sure our offense improved and I personally think DMAC’s breakout year had a lot to do with it. I see DMAC taking a checkdown for 6 points and you see it as Hue’s offense taking it for 6.

    We scored 31 points last Sunday but you look at it closely the D scored or set up 14 of those 17 points. I stand by my assumption that Hue Jack is overrated.

  69. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    people talk on here about having a mediocre coach, but it’s the mediocre qb that we should worry about. have to have a lights out defense that gives up nothing in order to have a mediocre qb.

  70. Dakota Says:

    Gruden has left Glendale Arizona on a flight to Oakland! Hmmmmmmmmmmm

    http://www.sportsnetwork.com/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/newstest.aspx?id=4368750

  71. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    i dont care,

    ******************************

    I highly doubt that.

    You don’t want Bruce anywhere near this team, you said so many times, and there is a good chance your new HC makes sure he comes back next year to play the same role he did this year.
    ==================================================

    Again i dont care! i am concerned with the coach the play caller and the starting qb. jason campbell & hu jack! Im juiced, Al Davis is still the man!

  72. M Lonetree Says:

    Raider O,

    you got your wish to be rid of your “fat monkey”, now you wanna monkey around with the rest of the staff? Take a deep breath young man.

  73. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so Hue Jackson is linked to 2 football teams, right?

    only 2 teams interested out of how many HC vacancies?

    the 49ers reportedly just want to interview any local black guy to hire Jim Harbaugh before Denver does …

    and the other team is Oakland? the only team giving him serious consideration? WHY ???

  74. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:01 am
    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:34 am
    The game against seattle where we pulled away i the second half showed me that hu-jack does make good adjustments at half time. he decided to throw deep in the second half and it worked. I also saw it in the first kc game, we scrapped the wild cat and played it straight up and pulled it out at the end.

    people in here are hating on hu-jack the same way they hated on jc.

    Davis knows better than you.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I am Al Davis and I approve of this message.

    Listen to this guy’s crap. No one talks that way
    ===========================================================

    Spare us. You were wrong about jc and grads, and now your bitter because cbale has been shown the door. I know you cant stand the fact that i was right abut jc being the best qb on this team. i also called cable getting the axe, stop crying ad get over it. score board reads SupaVillain 1 englander 0

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LMFAO!

    What a dip. It’s wonderful that you think you count.
    Too bad you can’t reason.
    Doesn’t seem like Al is getting his money’s worth with you idiot.

    The problem peabrain is that whenever the situation approaches stable, Al fires the head coach.
    My objection has nothing to do with Cable or Jackson.
    Both Cable and Jackson are average coaches and I’m no super supporter of either, just of the Raiders.

    We only over get average coaches because Al will never relinquish any power to encourage a superior coach to apply for the job.
    Go back and tell that to the guys who sent you on here.

    I know that’s hard for you grasp what with you having to chant Al’s mantra all the time and spitting out all those talking points.
    That and the number of reasons that you’re a dik-headed moron-but who’s counting.

  75. Dakota Says:

    64.RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:15 am
    75,

    somewhere along the line, Cable must have given Skip Bayless a broken jaw …

    ++++++++++++++

    Tom Cable would piss himself if Bayless even flexed on him lol. Cable sticks to beating women and skinny little assistant coaches.

  76. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Jc earned his position by virtue of his play on the field. You didnt know he could play, i tried to tell you he could. we will know more after next year.

    ************************************

    LMAO!!!

    So it’s still up in the air whether he could play or not after this year?

    Thought so.

    I always said he would be what he was this year. I junk stat compiler, a slightly better 1-1 TD to turnovers ratio (13 to 10 this year), below-average QB rating and a guy who never wins meaningful December games or leads a team over .500 .

    Sounds about right still.

  77. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    “we are no longer losers”, that is nearly as bad as “the dumbest team in america”

  78. M Lonetree Says:

    Wonder if Cable punched someone or something last night.

  79. GoodOle00 Says:

    The 49ers request could’ve triggered cutting Cable…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/raider_war_room_3

  80. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Bruce seemed a lot more comfortable with the coaching change than just about any other player that went on record the last two days.

    ————————————-
    Bruce has to kiss up as his options are to get a new contract or to relocate to another city. With his wedding in mid June, he is hoping to stay. After he opened his mouth and was put on IR, I guess he learned. Yes, I am and was a Grads supporter instead of the Soupman.

  81. aig-raiders Says:

    69.Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:17 am
    people talk on here about having a mediocre coach, but it’s the mediocre qb that we should worry about. have to have a lights out defense that gives up nothing in order to have a mediocre qb.

    ——————

    100% correct.

  82. Dakota Says:

    Campbell is not the long-term answer, just like Cable was not the long term answer….but finding a HC with an IQ above 80 to replace Cable won’t be a problem….finding a good starting NFL QB is much more difficult. I think we may have to endure another year of Campbell.

  83. aig-raiders Says:

    77.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:21 am
    “we are no longer losers”, that is nearly as bad as “the dumbest team in america”

    ————————
    Were those statements incorrect? NO!

  84. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    It’s going to be funny if after the usual lengthy waiting period, the Raiders announce that they’re going with Harbaugh or Gruden.

  85. Just Fire Baby Says:

    How does Randy Hanson turn into a skinny assistant coach?

    He was 6′3 when he played QB in college.

    Cable is a big dude, but I bet Randy Hanson is somewhere around 6′3, 190 pounds and younger and in better shape than Cabes.

  86. GoodOle00 Says:

    Raiders new Head Coach?

    RANDY HANSON

    Davis likes a guy who can take a punch

  87. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Cable would piss himself if Bayless even flexed on him lol. Cable sticks to beating women and skinny little assistant coaches.

    ***

    this guy?

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rtdP-SZP21c/SI3ya5v1b6I/AAAAAAAABxY/lJ6VB_6-rnk/s400/skip_bayless_points_at_liar.jpg

  88. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Jc earned his position by virtue of his play on the field. You didnt know he could play, i tried to tell you he could. we will know more after next year.

    ************************************

    LMAO!!!

    So it’s still up in the air whether he could play or not after this year?

    Thought so.

    I always said he would be what he was this year. I junk stat compiler, a slightly better 1-1 TD to turnovers ratio (13 to 10 this year), below-average QB rating and a guy who never wins meaningful December games or leads a team over .500 .

    Sounds about right still.
    =========================================================

    Wrong as usual. the new head coach and owner think he can play. You and I can revisit after next year. why after next year? because he will be our starter, in his second year in the system. i already know he can play, it is you that is a non believer.

    beating kc was a meaningful game. it meant that we build toward next year with a win over a division rival.

  89. RaidingTexas Says:

    aig-raiders Says:

    Are you sure you’re the same dude I’ve been disagreeing with all year on JC? Who took over your body? just kiddin. Thanks man.

    ———————

    Once again, don’t confuse the “rather see Campbell than Gradkowski” argument with “Campbell is a great QB”. I have repeatedly said that I don’t see Campbell is a long-term solution.

    I just knew what Gradkowski was. I didn’t buy into the emotional win over a Pittsburgh team that was mired in a 5-game losing streak. Some people around here got too carried away by that one game in 2009.

  90. Raider O Says:

    M,

    No time for breaks. We need to take care of business. Marshall & Lal should be next to go.

    Cry-baby Punter is next, if he doesn’t shut it!

  91. M Lonetree Says:

    Aig,

    the Raiders scored more points this past season than 8 of the playoff teams. should’ve been good enough except the “lights out” defense often wasn’t.

  92. RaiderRockstar Says:

    why is Oakland the only team with serious/legit interest in Hue Jackson as a HC candidate?

  93. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Why do people want to give credit to cable for 8-8, but at the same time trash campbell for the same record? remember campbell was benched by cable and as a result we finished with only 8 wins.

  94. Dakota Says:

    http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/75468239.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F5432DD7FA70CEBAC1F34A8D429F7A05824E8DFA62B0214979

  95. RaiderRockstar Says:

    O,

    if Lechler gets traded you can bet your sweet bippy that Jon Condo will not re-sign, forcing Al’s hand to put the franchise tag on a long snapper

  96. RaidingTexas Says:

    RR, I believe SF has serious interest.

  97. Raider O Says:

    We can’t afford mistakes. We need to make some moves now!
    Add a HC, upgrade the rest of the staff, and let’s deal with players.

  98. Dakota Says:

    92.RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:27 am
    why is Oakland the only team with serious/legit interest in Hue Jackson as a HC candidate?
    +++++++++++

    Are you related to the Yorks or something? How do you know that?

  99. The Real Oakglenn Says:

    I knew Dakota would have to scramble to find something new to complain about.

    Now it’s Campbell.

  100. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic,

    Why was JC benched again? He was lighting up against Tenn and STL and Pitt. Damn you Cable.

  101. Dakota Says:

    Hey Rockstar,

    How many teams were beating Cable’s door down to be a HC? College even? And what are the odds he gets another HC job in the NFL?

    I’d say zero, but Mangina got another chance…..

  102. M Lonetree Says:

    cable tied his noose to a tree limb named brucekowski.

  103. J Hill Says:

    69.Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    people talk on here about having a mediocre coach, but it’s the mediocre qb that we should worry about.

    ——————————————————

    If you are against mediocre, why all this about Cable?

    It is barely arguable that Cable was even Mediocre.

  104. Just Fire Baby Says:

    beating kc was a meaningful game. it meant that we build toward next year with a win over a division rival.

    *******************************

    Uhhh…..it wasn’t to meaningful for the HC coach.

    Seems the owner had his mind made up already. They could have won be 50 or lost by 50 and he was gone.

    The essence of a MEANINGLESS game for us.

    Chiefs had plenty to play for though.

  105. KoolKell Says:

    “So we need a good manager at quarterback. No question Jason proved in the last six weeks of the season that he has command of what we’re asking him to do, and he’s able to control it and lead this team. As long as you do the things around him, meaning run the football, run the football, run the football, and let him explode with deep passes, we have a chance because we certainly have some talent at the receivers position.”
    ——————————-
    Just as I tried to tell you guys yesterday. Al Davis isn’t going for any run-first football. Even if it means winning.

  106. sec144r18 Says:

    I have to confess – I went to bed pretty bummed out on the news of Cable’s departure last night… As some of you know I’ve been sitting in my seats for quite a while and the ‘product’ this year was the best its been in years.

    However, after a night’s sleep reflecting on it here are my thoughts:

    1) I doubt any team is going to beat down the door for Cable’s services as a head coach… I doubt it now and I doubt it for a long time. He did a great job of managing Al, a good job of bringing the team together (probably rallying against Al), but he isn’t a top echelon head coach. Cable probably ‘topped out’ this year. We’ll never know any better, but some of the errors he made make me think that its as good as it was ever going to get.

    2) Cable screwed up putting Gradkowski in the SF and Miami games – no question about it in Al’s eyes. Those losses with Grads at the helm all but sealed his fate, especially after listening to Greg Papa on KNBR (Remember Greg Papa and Al actually talk to one another whereas we *speculate* on what Al thinks / talks about).

    3) Gradkowski can probably pack his bags. I know that there are a lot of Grads lovers out there, but I think that Al really likes Campbell, and he isn’t a big fan of 5′8″ guys with mid-strength arms.

    4) If I’m Al, I wait to see if anyone actually offers Hue a contract – for all we know he has a head-coach ‘matching’ clause in Hue’ coordinator contract – making sure that the Raiders have the right of first refusal – if no one offers Hue the HC job – we can probably get him on the cheap.

    5) The big questions are what are we going to do about the defensive coordinator position? Wide receivers coach? and Oline coach? Those are three very important coaching positions that need to be addressed.

    6) I’ll leave y’all with the following: “Winning washes away all of the turmoil” – If the next coach takes the team to the next step (10 wins?) – then we’ll think Al was a genius.

  107. Raider O Says:

    I don’t care about a punter and a LS!
    Lechler is an idiot. He said players will not resign but he did due to a big contract. What an idiot!

  108. J Hill Says:

    Campbell is not the long-term answer, just like Cable was not the long term answer….but finding a HC with an IQ above 80 to replace Cable won’t be a problem….finding a good starting NFL QB is much more difficult.

    —————————————————-

    Exactly!

    Not that hard.

  109. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Mistic,

    Why was JC benched again? He was lighting up against Tenn and STL and Pitt. Damn you Cable.
    ===================================================

    Its not about lighting it up, its about having the best players on the field. Az, hou, and mia, these are the games that sting the most. shutting down jc after the win streak was ridciulous. These cost us a playoff birth, period end of story.

  110. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ray and several other have posted this:

    Jackson is satisfying the Rooney Rule for San Francisco this morning so that new GM Trent Baalke can move on Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh

    not sure where it came from since they didn’t credit the source, but I am not the least bit surprised due to all the reports about JH & San Fran …

  111. DKnight007 Says:

    97.Raider O Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:29 am
    We can’t afford mistakes. We need to make some moves now!
    Add a HC, upgrade the rest of the staff, and let’s deal with players.

    ^^^^^^
    Exactly!

    However,the lack of a CBA will delay FA signings.

    I think there won’t be a new CBA until after the Draft IMO.

  112. Dakota Says:

    99.The Real Oakglenn Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:29 am
    I knew Dakota would have to scramble to find something new to complain about.

    Now it’s Campbell.
    __________________________

    I’ve been very consistent talking about Campbell this year….not good, not horrible….very replaceable if the opportunity arises.

    Don’t worry, there are always things for me to sink my teeth into when it comes to the Raiders.

  113. ibcode3 Says:

    Send Shane away for a #1 pick and those who want Luck as QS makes it now possible

  114. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    jhill

    i don’t see cable as mediocre, i see al as mediocre. cable brought player buy in and improvement and that improvement was there before hue jack came in

  115. aig-raiders Says:

    sec144r18 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    2) Cable screwed up putting Gradkowski in the SF and Miami games – no question about it in Al’s eyes. Those losses with Grads at the helm all but sealed his fate, especially after listening to Greg Papa on KNBR (Remember Greg Papa and Al actually talk to one another whereas we *speculate* on what Al thinks / talks about).
    ——————–

    sorry man. Grad never played in SF. He was hurt. Was JC lighting it up against Pitt and got benched for Mia?

  116. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:09 am
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    Another messenger from 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway.

    Look at this obvious stuff too-especially the last sentence.

    Just go away and pick up Al’s check idiot.
    ________________________________

    ENGLANDRAIDER????? You stupid!!!!!!

    First, my last comment was a joke. I never lived in a Trailor Park, but I have lived in the hood.

    Second, I don’t live in oakland or in the area anymore.

    Third, I am not a huge Al Davis fan. I am a Raider fan.

    Damn, you don’t have to get so angry over me asking you a simple questions.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Lol!

    It only happens when my twitch starts or Al fires another coach.

  117. KoolKell Says:

    Now Hue Jackson has to make a bomb factory out of Jason Campbell and Darrius Heyward-Bey.

    Al Davis Football, baby!

    (sarcasm)

  118. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    jhill, from your posts i know you to be pro davis and pro players, not pro raiders as a team but this is my guy and that is my guy.

  119. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    beating kc was a meaningful game. it meant that we build toward next year with a win over a division rival.

    *******************************

    Uhhh…..it wasn’t to meaningful for the HC coach.

    Seems the owner had his mind made up already. They could have won be 50 or lost by 50 and he was gone.

    The essence of a MEANINGLESS game for us.

    Chiefs had plenty to play for though.
    ========================================================

    Who cares if it was meaningless for cable, he sucked he needed to go.

    It wasnt meaningless for the team though, nor was it meaningless to davis, who thinks cable again screwed up by not having b campbell on the field.

  120. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Az, hou, and mia, these are the games that sting the most.

    ************************

    But not Tenn, SF and Pitt???

    Opening game, first game after 3 game winning streak and coming off a bye, and a loss to an 0-5 team.

    How does those not “Sting” or even sting the most??

    Craziness!!! They all sting. Tenn, AZ, HOU, Mia, PITT, SF.

    6 killer losses when QB’s played like crap.

  121. aig-raiders Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am
    # aig-raiders Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Mistic,

    Why was JC benched again? He was lighting up against Tenn and STL and Pitt. Damn you Cable.
    ===================================================

    Its not about lighting it up, its about having the best players on the field. Az, hou, and mia, these are the games that sting the most.
    ——————

    So Mistic,

    Your boy Hue took credit for benching JC in game 2 vs STL and proclaimed that he wanted to bench JC in the first game too. Are you sure you got your facts straight?

  122. RaidingTexas Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    ray and several other have posted this:

    Jackson is satisfying the Rooney Rule for San Francisco this morning so that new GM Trent Baalke can move on Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh

    not sure where it came from since they didn’t credit the source, but I am not the least bit surprised due to all the reports about JH & San Fran …

    —————————

    If they can’t provide the sources, then it’s as good as not being true. I think it’s just speculation on the part of message board residents. A lot of people here think they know what Al is thinking, so they may as well think they know what Baalke’s thinking too.

  123. Raider O Says:

    DK,

    Damn bro. I forgot all about the CBA.
    Fix the Staff now, wait for CBA, then deal with players.
    We still need to improve our coaching situation. We need to act early to get a good HC.

  124. zopi Says:

    I hate to say that not renewing Cable is a mistake.
    I wanted Cable fired at the beginning of the season, and said that regardless of the record Cable was a lame duck coach. I wanted HueJax to get a chance to show what he could do. However, Cable turned the team around as well as my opinion, and wanted him back.

    The CBA issue might not get resolved on time to give a new coach the time needed to gel with the team. So, if it’s HueJax the target then it makes a lot of sense to have the continuity.
    Also, I believe that HueJax will come at a cheaper rate than renewing Cable, always an Al Davis priority, specially given his economic reality in Oaktown. Mr. Davis might get more for his money with HueJax.

    Maybe there’s a chance Mr. Davis has the inside connection with Harbaugh, or with another top notch coach available, I wouldn’t hold my breath, though.

    I tell you that if Chokey Gruden returned, I would walk to Oaktown Downtown and join the party. So, Mr. Davis I suggest that you get Chokey back, make him GM and give him a part of the team, whatever it takes.
    Naw…

  125. aig-raiders Says:

    117.KoolKell Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:35 am
    Now Hue Jackson has to make a bomb factory out of Jason Campbell and Darrius Heyward-Bey.

    Al Davis Football, baby!

    (sarcasm)

    ————–
    But that’s exactly what he is going to say to get the Job!

  126. RaiderRockstar Says:

    RaidingTexas,

    SF passed on Hue Jax as OC. Why on earth would they want him for HC less than a year later?

    SF saw first hand how awful Hue Jackson’s offense was in Week 6

    179 total yards, 2 turnovers and no touchdowns

    10 first downs, 6 punts and 3 FG’s. 0/2 in the red zone

  127. Just Fire Baby Says:

    who thinks cable again screwed up by not having b campbell on the field.

    **********************************

    Al Davis also patted his own back praising his call for playing Mario Henderson in 2008, after writing the check for failed Kwame Harris in the first place.

    I trust Cable that Bruce Campbell is a stiff at this stage.

  128. Carl Weathers Says:

    Hines ward just now on Sirius:

    I don’t care about stats anymore. You know, I’ve had over 900 catches, 12,000 yards, so I’m all about winning, doesn’t matter how many balls I get.

    LMAO!

  129. DKnight007 Says:

    Rumors are saying that Harbaugh is going to be asking for about 6 million a year to coach the lousy Niners!

    6 million a year?? WOW!

    If Harbaugh gets that much money, he better win and get into the playoffs by year 2 at the very least!!

  130. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am
    Campbell is not the long-term answer, just like Cable was not the long term answer….but finding a HC with an IQ above 80 to replace Cable won’t be a problem….finding a good starting NFL QB is much more difficult.

    —————————————————-

    Exactly!

    Not that hard.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    All true, but when you find that great coach, will he apply for the job given Al’s restrictions?

    Man, I’m a long time Al Davis supporter but I’m sick of this firing the coach crap!

  131. DKnight007 Says:

    Harbuagh is not going to the Niners.

    He will say thanks….but no thanks.

  132. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hue Jackson will say the same things Tom Cable said when he got hired on as full term Head Coach of the Raiders… whatever Al Davis wants to hear!

  133. I am Spartacus Says:

    Jerry says..”In contrast to some teammates who are upset over the decision to change coaches, Jason Campbell sounded cool and detached Wednesday morning when analyzing the demise of Tom Cable”.

    ___________________________________
    In contrast to being frightened and lost on the football field? A guy who only played better once his main competition was placed on IR because he couldn’t handle the pressure of competition? Doesn’t inspire a whole lot of confidence for me.

  134. Dakota Says:

    If Harbaugh isn’t going to the 49ers, Phins or Mich then where the hell is he going?

  135. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Az, hou, and mia, these are the games that sting the most.

    ************************

    But not Tenn, SF and Pitt???

    Opening game, first game after 3 game winning streak and coming off a bye, and a loss to an 0-5 team.

    How does those not “Sting” or even sting the most??

    Craziness!!! They all sting. Tenn, AZ, HOU, Mia, PITT, SF.

    6 killer losses when QB’s played like crap.
    =======================================================

    Pitt is a superbowl contender, so i didnt expect the raiders to win that game on the road.

    Losing to az hou and mia, inexcusable because we didnt have the best qb on the field. This cant be forgiven. That is why these are far worse defeats. Losing is one thing, having a your best qb on the bench while healthy, ridiculous.

  136. r8eray Says:

    RR, got it from Rotoworld.

  137. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    we all know that players on the field play and win the games. we all know that al is the puppet master so a coach with an iq above 90 is not really relevent. it doesn’t matter, that is why he doesn’t pay coaches, it’s his way or the highway and if you say different then your a fool. next year depends on 90% campbell and 10% luck. the reason i liked cable was stability and players played for him, it’s not always like that in the raiders locker room. just a couple years ago players were playing for paychecks first and foremost, laughing at lossses.

  138. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Since most of the team, especially guys that have been here a minute (Gallery, Shane, Nnamdi, Miller, Bush) all seem to be big Cabes guys, wonder how it stands that Campbell was not one.

    Nobody likes the spoiled kid who gets favortisim.

  139. J Hill Says:

    jhill, from your posts i know you to be pro davis and pro players, not pro raiders as a team but this is my guy and that is my guy.

    —————————————————–

    ??????????????

    Really?

    That’s interesting.

    How do you determine “pro Raiders”?

  140. McRaider5150 Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:34 am
    McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:09 am
    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    Another messenger from 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway.

    Look at this obvious stuff too-especially the last sentence.

    Just go away and pick up Al’s check idiot.
    ________________________________

    ENGLANDRAIDER????? You stupid!!!!!!

    First, my last comment was a joke. I never lived in a Trailor Park, but I have lived in the hood.

    Second, I don’t live in oakland or in the area anymore.

    Third, I am not a huge Al Davis fan. I am a Raider fan.

    Damn, you don’t have to get so angry over me asking you a simple questions.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Lol!

    It only happens when my twitch starts or Al fires another coach.
    —————————–

    lol! I understand the frustration, but I am so use to it. It’s why I think unless we bring in Gruden, Cower, Harb, or another coach with winning history and HC experience, Hue is the best option.

    Someone mention earlier that Al has never hired a coach that had previous success. That is 100% true and maybe he never will. He does not respect coaches the same why he respects players. That is my issue with Al.

  141. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If Harbaugh isn’t going to the 49ers, Phins or Mich then where the hell is he going?

    ***

    Denver, Oakland or staying at Stanford

  142. r8eray Says:

    Dakota, where does it say that Gruden is on his way?

  143. Raider O Says:

    Dakota,

    Harbaugh = Raiders!

  144. tuckrulefool Says:

    “REALLY REALLY challenging”?

    Come on thats GOT to be here/oakland.

    Could it be?

    ====(from profootballtalk)—-

    Michigan AD says Jim Harbaugh is NFL-bound
    Posted by Michael David Smith on January 5, 2011, 12:55 PM EST

    Jim Harbaugh

    In addition to Ravens coach John Harbaugh, there’s another voice saying that Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh will not be the next head coach at Michigan: Michigan’s athletic director.

    Michigan A.D. Dave Brandon, in announcing today that he had fired coach Rich Rodriguez, made clear that he was not firing Rodriguez in the hopes that Jim Harbaugh was coming to town.

    “I personally believe Jim Harbaugh is headed to the NFL,” Brandon said. “My personal belief is that Jim Harbaugh is going to end up with a really, really challenging opportunity in the NFL.”

    So Harbaugh apparently turned Michigan down not because he’s staying at Stanford, but because he’s heading to the NFL. But which NFL team? We really don’t know right now, but there are indications that Harbaugh would like to stay in the Bay Area, where there are two NFL vacancies.

  145. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    who thinks cable again screwed up by not having b campbell on the field.

    **********************************

    Al Davis also patted his own back praising his call for playing Mario Henderson in 2008, after writing the check for failed Kwame Harris in the first place.

    I trust Cable that Bruce Campbell is a stiff at this stage.
    =======================================================

    Then you should hit the bricks along with cable. this is 2011 not 2008. it is clear henderson at this point is a flop.

  146. DKnight007 Says:

    134.Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
    If Harbaugh isn’t going to the 49ers, Phins or Mich then where the hell is he going?

    ^^^^^^
    Harbaugh going to Fins, Carolina, Michigan, or Denver.

  147. Raider Dell Says:

    What’s all the fuss about– He (Cable) was just a head coach.

    I just scanned all the other teams newspapers/media, covering all the other potential coaches on the firing line. I read many players, who commented about the coach and his ability to lead and his football knowledge for X and O’s.

    I can’t find one Raider player, to comment on his X and O’s since his firing.

    If you guys want a HC to motivate the players, the team is in trouble.

    If the team wants a spiritual leader, rah, rah type and brutally honest, they should hire Tony Robbins and have a real professional care taker in their midst.

  148. KoolKell Says:

    If I’m M Bush, I get the hell out. The Raiders are going back to”Sid Gillman Football” next year. There won’t be many carries for him here.

  149. DKnight007 Says:

    134.Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
    If Harbaugh isn’t going to the 49ers, Phins or Mich then where the hell is he going?

    ^^^^^^
    Harbaugh going to Fins, Carolina, Denver, Oakland or staying at Stanford with Luck I think.

  150. sec144r18 Says:

    # aig-raiders Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    sec144r18 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    2) Cable screwed up putting Gradkowski in the SF and Miami games – no question about it in Al’s eyes. Those losses with Grads at the helm all but sealed his fate, especially after listening to Greg Papa on KNBR (Remember Greg Papa and Al actually talk to one another whereas we *speculate* on what Al thinks / talks about).
    ——————–

    sorry man. Grad never played in SF. He was hurt. Was JC lighting it up against Pitt and got benched for Mia?

    ——————–
    You are right – I was thinking Arizona.

  151. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
    If Harbaugh isn’t going to the 49ers, Phins or Mich then where the hell is he going?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The Dolphins are doing their best to get Harbaugh.

  152. Raider O Says:

    Gruden or Harbaugh will make me happy.
    I’m not 100% sold on Hue.

  153. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Here’s to Hue Jackson telling Al everything he wants to hear in the interview, then throwing out everything that reeks of Al as soon as he gets the job and starting his own regime. Let Al try to fire another head coach for “cause”. Arbitration will laugh.

  154. Dakota Says:

    142.r8eray Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:43 am
    Dakota, where does it say that Gruden is on his way?
    ++++++++++++

    In the immortal words of John Matrix in Commando….”I lied!”

  155. DKnight007 Says:

    134.Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:41 am
    If Harbaugh isn’t going to the 49ers, Phins or Mich then where the hell is he going?

    ^^^^^^
    Harbaugh either going to Fins, Carolina, Denver, Oakland or staying at Stanford with Luck IMO!

  156. Raider O Says:

    Tell’em Dell!

  157. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    by pro raiders let me clarify, i don’t have favorite players. i simply want the team to win, not my guy to win. you seem davis first, whatever he says is word and then your players. you place your guys above team

  158. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dolphins would be stupid to get rid of Soprano. He brought drastic improvement his first year, and plays in the toughest division in football.

  159. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:46 am
    If I’m M Bush, I get the hell out. The Raiders are going back to”Sid Gillman Football” next year. There won’t be many carries for him here.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    We spent two years waiting for this guy and I think he’s going to be great-wherever he plays.

    Trading McFadden would really enhance our draft prospects-not that I want to.

  160. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    This is it, another Al davis home run! hu jack will take us to the playoffs next year, he will get the keys to the Ferrari.

    He knows how to work with Al, and still have his own input. his philosophy on offense is the davis philosophy. he loves campbell at qb. any questions?

  161. DKnight007 Says:

    152.Raider O Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:47 am
    Gruden or Harbaugh will make me happy.
    I’m not 100% sold on Hue.

    ^^^^^^^
    Hue has plenty of upside.

  162. Raider75 Says:

    where do you guys go for the crazy, throw crap at the wall type of NFL rumors you used to find at PFT?

  163. I am Spartacus Says:

    If the team wants a spiritual leader, rah, rah type and brutally honest, they should hire Tony Robbins and have a real professional care taker in their midst.

    ______________________________________
    A rah, rah type is exactly what the Raiders will get with Jackson.

    Anyways boys, have at it. I’ve been an ardent fan of this team for 30 years and this was the last straw. I’m done with this team.

  164. DMAC Says:

    a)Harbaugh is coming to Oakland

    b)Harbaugh is going to Dungver

    c)Harbaugh is staying put at Stanford w/ Luck

  165. McRaider5150 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    Here’s to Hue Jackson telling Al everything he wants to hear in the interview, then throwing out everything that reeks of Al as soon as he gets the job and starting his own regime. Let Al try to fire another head coach for “cause”. Arbitration will laugh.
    _______________________

    Agree and disagree.

    Take a page out of Gruden Book. Start off doing what Al asks you to do, then gradually sneak in some of the more innovative ideas and scheme that fit in the current world of the NFL.

  166. RaiderRockstar Says:

    any questions?

    ***

    yes Mistic, one question

    why is Oakland the only team with serious/legit interest in Hue Jackson as a HC candidate?

  167. DMAC Says:

    I wouldn’t be mad to see Hue Jack at HC and McDaniels hired as Offensive Coordinator.

  168. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    miami should get rid of their coach, they were not improving and going in the wrong direction at the end of the year. he lost that team

  169. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    no mcdaniels! what a putz

  170. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I wouldn’t be mad to see Hue Jack at HC and McDaniels hired as Offensive Coordinator.

    ***

    if Hue is hired, he will also be the play caller

    McDaniels would replace Tollner as ‘Passing Game Coordinator’ , but nobody even knows what he does!

    Hackett coaches QB’s and Lal coaches WR’s

  171. r8eray Says:

    Did we fire Marshall yet??

  172. J Hill Says:

    If the team wants a spiritual leader, rah, rah type and brutally honest, they should hire Tony Robbins and have a real professional care taker in their midst.

    ——————————————————

    Big Dell in da house.

  173. r8eray Says:

    Did we fire Lal yet??

  174. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    So Harbaugh apparently turned Michigan down not because he’s staying at Stanford, but because he’s heading to the NFL. But which NFL team? We really don’t know right now, but there are indications that Harbaugh would like to stay in the Bay Area, where there are two NFL vacancies.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It is going to be so effin annoying if this guy goes to the whiners or the donkies.

  175. DMAC Says:

    Did we cut Michael Bennet yet?

  176. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    for those of you who think another coach can come in now and win easy peasy now that cable has changed the locker room mentality are wrong. yeah they are pros and they play for paychecks. cable had them playing for him and not quitting and playing for each other and not laughing after losing games. easy to go back to that mentality

  177. sec144r18 Says:

    Puleez do not keep Sanjay Lal… Our wide receivers do not come back for the ball and rarely get separation.

    That is coaching.

    I’m not talking about an innate ability to drop passes (DHB).

    Lal should be a QC coach or something – perhaps hang out with Randy Hanson.

  178. nycraiders Says:

    Last year Grads saved cable’s job, this year he got him fired…Cable wont be interviewed for another HC job now or in the near future..so whats the big deal..he is a great cheerleader, nothing else..

  179. Raider75 Says:

    on pft…

    We’re told that the Dolphins also have spoken with former Raiders and Bucs coach Jon Gruden.

    Per the Herald, Cowher backed away due to the issue of power over the football operations, which suggests that the Dolphins may be willing to dump Sparano but keep G.M. Jeff Ireland. As to Gruden, a league source tells us that talks occurred on Monday and into Tuesday, that Gruden asked for too much money (in the estimation of the Dolphins), and that Gruden stepped away once the Dolphins started to bat lashes at Harbaugh.

    We’re also told that Harbaugh wants $7 million per year, and that he is putting out the word that he was offered $5 million annually from Michigan (John Clayton says it was $5.2 million) in the hopes of leveraging even more from an NFL team.

    …….

    wow.

  180. Raider Dell Says:

    Let me float out the rumor of Chris Petersen of Boise State.

    Just signed a five year contract, but has the Usual clause, to opt out, for a another job.

    If you want imaginative offense and fun and how to utilize players, he’s your HC.

  181. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Hobs, our extra wins this year were all Ford and McFadden. Cable’s “locker room mentality” had nothing to do with it.

  182. KoolKell Says:

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    by pro raiders let me clarify, i don’t have favorite players. i simply want the team to win, not my guy to win. you seem davis first, whatever he says is word and then your players. you place your guys above team
    ——————————–
    Exactly, Fantasy Football pootbutts.

  183. DMAC Says:

    The 49ers are scheduled to meet with Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh at an “undisclosed location” on Wednesday.
    Harbaugh won’t be at the team’s facility — probably to avoid a massive media gathering — but the 49ers can move quickly on the hottest coaching candidate in football after satisfying the Rooney Rule Wednesday morning. At this point, Harbaugh looks like a virtual lock to be the 49ers’ head coach assuming he wants to the job and doesn’t play hardball by bringing the Dolphins or Broncos into the mix. The Niners can offer the most power.
    Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

  184. Silver-and-black666 Says:

    Harbaugh is going to Denver so he can draft Luck.

    Cower will go to Carolina

    McDaniels will end up in KC replacing Weiss

    Fisher is the wild card and the one I hope Al davis has in his sites.

    Not likely but a guy can wish!

  185. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    al would rather get headlines for discovering a new genius head coach himself then win a superbowl and have to share the limelight with a coach or gm

  186. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Isn’t is sad that the Raiders are not even on the long list for Harbaugh? Why is Al Davis letting this happen? Harbaugh is the big thing going right now and he also is the type of coach Al’s hired in the past and succeeded with, and the Raiders are nowhere in the running. Why is Al letting this happen? Why isn’t Al at least throwing lucrative offers to Harbaugh to remind the football world that the Raiders are still relevant, if anything?

  187. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    but didn’t haley wag his finger at mcdaniels? hard feelings there?

  188. DMAC Says:

    Silver-and-black666 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Harbaugh is going to Denver so he can draft Luck.
    ===============
    + Elway back in Denver (Stanford Alumni)

  189. Silver-and-black666 Says:

    MR its because deep inside Al Davis wants to hire John Fox.

    This would be par for the course as far as AD propects go!

  190. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    madden, baloney. you seen all too well how guys can quit on this team and just go through the motions and it was not that long ago.

  191. J Hill Says:

    you seem davis first, whatever he says is word and then your players. you place your guys above team

    ——————————————————

    I think you are the first person I can recall to call me an Al Davis guy. I think Al had totally messed up the coaching situation for as long as I can remember. Was and still am a BIG Gruden fan. I don’t fall for all the AL Davis is the devil stuff you hear on the national media, but he CERTAINLY is as responsible for this mess as anyone else.

    I comment on certain players because that’s the way this blog flows.

    But to say I have “my guys” is a stretch, IMO. I think “my guys” are the best ones at their position, on this team, at this time.

    Who would you say are “my guys”?

    And please don’t say Jason Campbell. Just because I don’t realistically see us getting anyone better, and I think he is better than Gardowski does not make him my guy. I’d take plenty of QBs over him, if they were available.

  192. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the 49ers can move quickly on the hottest coaching candidate in football after satisfying the Rooney Rule Wednesday morning. At this point, Harbaugh looks like a virtual lock to be the 49ers’ head coach assuming he wants to the job and doesn’t play hardball by bringing the Dolphins or Broncos into the mix. The Niners can offer the most power.
    Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

    ***

    I guess Hue Jackson didn’t impress?

  193. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    sorry jhill but everytime i talk with you, it’s about al davis or one of his guys. you fall into agreement with priest and marley a lot.

  194. RaiderRockstar Says:

    didn’t haley wag his finger at mcdaniels?

    ***

    Dikembe Mutombo > Andrew Bynum!

  195. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    but didn’t haley wag his finger at mcdaniels? hard feelings there?

    =======================================================

    Wagged his finger, shook his fist, and wouldn’t shake his hand.

  196. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    i thought fox didn’t like davis

  197. McRaider5150 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    Isn’t is sad that the Raiders are not even on the long list for Harbaugh? Why is Al Davis letting this happen? Harbaugh is the big thing going right now and he also is the type of coach Al’s hired in the past and succeeded with, and the Raiders are nowhere in the running. Why is Al letting this happen? Why isn’t Al at least throwing lucrative offers to Harbaugh to remind the football world that the Raiders are still relevant, if anything?

    ———————————
    Al will never pay a coach 5 to 7 million a year before that coach wins him a SB. Also, Al will never allow a coach to hire ALL of his own staff because of the loyalty to some of his current staff members.

  198. Silver-and-black666 Says:

    fox hates AD which was the sarcastic slant to my post

  199. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    harbaugh was never going to coach the raiders, a hot prospect like himself can kill a career if the davis experiment doesn’t work. coaching the raiders on your resume only works if your a nobody first.

  200. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    January 5th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    the 49ers can move quickly on the hottest coaching candidate in football after satisfying the Rooney Rule Wednesday morning. At this point, Harbaugh looks like a virtual lock to be the 49ers’ head coach assuming he wants to the job and doesn’t play hardball by bringing the Dolphins or Broncos into the mix. The Niners can offer the most power.
    Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

    ***

    I guess Hue Jackson didn’t impress?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not if you wanted Harbaugh in the first place.
    Also, the Hue interview was probably to get Al to panic and not go after Harbaugh.

  201. DMAC Says:

    Owner Bud Adams do us a favor and pick VY or Fisher, so we can finally hire a real HC.
    (yeah, I know I’m dreaming)

  202. DKnight007 Says:

    179.Raider75 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:56 am
    on pft…

    We’re told that the Dolphins also have spoken with former Raiders and Bucs coach Jon Gruden.

    Per the Herald, Cowher backed away due to the issue of power over the football operations, which suggests that the Dolphins may be willing to dump Sparano but keep G.M. Jeff Ireland. As to Gruden, a league source tells us that talks occurred on Monday and into Tuesday, that Gruden asked for too much money (in the estimation of the Dolphins), and that Gruden stepped away once the Dolphins started to bat lashes at Harbaugh.

    We’re also told that Harbaugh wants $7 million per year, and that he is putting out the word that he was offered $5 million annually from Michigan (John Clayton says it was $5.2 million) in the hopes of leveraging even more from an NFL team.

    …….

    wow.

    ^^^^^^^
    Yep and if the Niners get him….they will be most likely seriously OVER paying for him!

    The pressure will be on Harbaugh immediately if he gets paid over 5 million a year to be the coach of Whiners….without a QB for him and a lousy secondary.

  203. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jeff Fisher (if dumped) would probably chose Denver or Miami over SF or Oakland …

  204. DMAC Says:

    In other news……..
    KC is going to get beat down this week end

  205. DKnight007 Says:

    197.McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    Isn’t is sad that the Raiders are not even on the long list for Harbaugh? Why is Al Davis letting this happen? Harbaugh is the big thing going right now and he also is the type of coach Al’s hired in the past and succeeded with, and the Raiders are nowhere in the running. Why is Al letting this happen? Why isn’t Al at least throwing lucrative offers to Harbaugh to remind the football world that the Raiders are still relevant, if anything?

    ———————————
    Al will never pay a coach 5 to 7 million a year before that coach wins him a SB. Also, Al will never allow a coach to hire ALL of his own staff because of the loyalty to some of his current staff members.

    ^^^^^^^
    Yep…it doesn’t make sense to pay an unproven head coach in the NFL 5-6 million a year.

    It’s ludicrous and ridiculous actually.

  206. DKnight007 Says:

    204.DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
    In other news……..
    KC is going to get beat down this week end

    ^^^^^^^
    Yep!

  207. ArmChair GM Says:

    # r8eray Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Dakota, where does it say that Gruden is on his way?
    ______________________________________________________

    It doesn’t r8eray…

    Dakota is notorious for spewing forth spurious, unsubstantiated comments just to get a reaction. I learned to ignore most of his posts long ago…

  208. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    I think you are the first person I can recall to call me an Al Davis guy.
    ———————————–
    Really?…..Seriously? You must have me on ignore.

  209. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    you never know with hue, i am willing to give him a chance but i can’t help but feel him a little disingenuous. he may have thrown (literally colts game haha) cable under the bus. now cable maybe sealed his own fate with campbell but winning the indy game could have made that case harder. not saying he did but it at least stinks a little.

  210. J Hill Says:

    193.Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    sorry jhill but everytime i talk with you, it’s about al davis or one of his guys. you fall into agreement with priest and marley a lot.

    —————————————————–

    I see.

    No problem.

    No answer to who my guys are?

    How about you rolling with Tom Cable despite the Raiders going in a different direction?

    Are you sticking with “your guys”?

  211. Raider O Says:

    C’mon Al. Make a move!

  212. J Hill Says:

    Really?…..Seriously? You must have me on ignore.

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

    How can I forget my man KK.

    My bad, I just thought you called all of us who told you to stop the repeat posting Al Davis guys.

  213. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill

    Your stupid assed insistence on Jared Veldheer playing Center over Satele in his first pro game, never having played Center before.

    Sounds like Fantasy football nonsense.

  214. PK28 Says:

    i think the team has enough talent now to attract a top flight head coach and/or head coaching prospect even with the perceived incompetence @ the top. until that is proven true, we’re stuck with guys (cable & jackson) who i believe aren’t legitimate head coaches that will lead the organization to a championship.

  215. J Hill Says:

    I guess I am an Al Davis guy. Al Davis is the Raiders and I realize he isn’t going anywhere and makes all the decisions.

    What can we do about it?

    I’m still rolling with the Raiders!

    He just nailed a SOLID draft a fired a tard coach. He hasn’t completely lost it, lol.

  216. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    http://www.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don-banks/01/05/jim-harbaugh-nfl/

    The five teams that might want him and why by don banks.

  217. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    i don’t see the raiders going in a different direction. they played their hearts out in kc and i feel they were playing for cable’s job. they went 6-0 in their division which before in the 11+ loss seasons was a sore topic for al….losing to division rivals was a source to let other coaches go. and i see an positive team concept going on, so definately i see them going the right way. i just want wins.

  218. J Hill Says:

    Kell,

    Satele was HORRIBLE, and SLIGHTLY improved this season. I’d take you at C over him.

  219. No Mas Diamante Says:

    What a slap in the face to hue jack administered by SF. He was used to satisfy the rooney rule and to possibly gain a lttle info into his football philosphy and that is it. They had no intention of ever signing him. The job is harbaughs if he wants it and that’s always been the plan.

  220. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    I think you are the first person I can recall to call me an Al Davis guy.
    ———————————–
    Really?…..Seriously? You must have me on ignore.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Lol.

  221. DMAC Says:

    Sorry, but Satele was not horrible.

  222. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    I guess I am an Al Davis guy. Al Davis is the Raiders and I realize he isn’t going anywhere and makes all the decisions.
    ———————————–
    Exactly, now quit lying and denying. And you’ll eat an unlimited amount of fecal mattered covered losses to defend him.

  223. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
    In other news……..
    KC is going to get beat down this week end

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That isn’t news.

  224. J Hill Says:

    And Kell,

    It was that tard Oline guy Cable who INSISTED on playing Veldheer at C, right?

    Again, WHOEVER he named NOT named Satele was fine with me.

  225. RaiderWill Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    Sorry, but Satele was not horrible.

    —————————————————

    He was horrible when he faced an elite nose tackle.

  226. No Mas Diamante Says:

    How about this for a long shot? Bill Parcells? He has said that he wants to coach again. Would Al give hime the power he wants?

  227. DMAC Says:

    Its not Cable news, so its news.

  228. DMAC Says:

    # RaiderWill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    Sorry, but Satele was not horrible.

    —————————————————

    He was horrible when he faced an elite nose tackle.
    =======
    The key word is elite.

  229. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    i am sure hue knew what the 49ers had in mind and he sure benefited from it, in it forcing al’s hand.

  230. RaiderWill Says:

    No Mas Diamante Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    How about this for a long shot? Bill Parcells? He has said that he wants to coach again. Would Al give hime the power he wants?

    —————————————————-

    Hahahahahahahahahah!!!! Thats a good one.

  231. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    No Mas Diamante Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    How about this for a long shot? Bill Parcells? He has said that he wants to coach again. Would Al give hime the power he wants?

    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Al wouldn’t give Vince Lombardi any power. No one on the Raiders has power but Davis.

  232. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    any questions?

    ***

    yes Mistic, one question

    why is Oakland the only team with serious/legit interest in Hue Jackson as a HC candidate?
    ====================================================

    This doesnt bother me at all, even if it is true. however he is interviewing as we speak.

    None the less, did anybody want madden before he was head coach, or flores? What about chucky?

    before anybody says stop going so far back into the past, how about mike tomlin? he wasnt red hot candidate.

    It doesnt matter who else is interested, it only matters that davis picks the right guy, and i think he has.

  233. DMAC Says:

    # No Mas Diamante Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    How about this for a long shot? Bill Parcells? He has said that he wants to coach again. Would Al give hime the power he wants?
    =========
    The answer is hell to the no.

  234. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    http://www.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don-banks/01/05/jim-harbaugh-nfl/

    The five teams that might want him and why.

    That should be don_banks

  235. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    i am sure hue knew what the 49ers had in mind and he sure benefited from it, in it forcing al’s hand.

    +++++++++++++++

    Ding ding ding!

  236. J Hill Says:

    221.DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Sorry, but Satele was not horrible.

    ——————————————————

    Yes he was which is why he was which is why there was talk of a rookie who had never played the position taking his spot.

    He was better this year than he was last year.

  237. Raider O Says:

    I’m so happy we fired Cable. Now it’s time to fire Marshall and Lal.

    -Marshall: it’s the same results as R Ryans Defense. We are top 10 against the pass, but we still allow too many yards against the run, and we can’t blame the offense anymore. I’m also sick of his S blitz, and who has a package that takes all the CBs off the field in a passing situation?!?!?! Crazzzzy!

    -Lal: look how we devolop our young WRs!

  238. YoungAmerican Says:

    Satele improved dramatically as the season went on, but his pass blocking is still suspect. Still, it’s not going to be an easy position for the Raiders to automatically upgrade unless Wizniewski or Pouncey fall to the Raiders in the second round.

    Best bet is to re-sign him on the cheap and draft Wisconsin C/G John Moffitt to see if he can do any better.

  239. ArmChair GM Says:

    221.DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Sorry, but Satele was not horrible.
    _______________________________________________________

    If Satele wasn’t horrible then there was no reason to experiment with starting Veldheer on the road at center against Tennessee.

  240. DMAC Says:

    # J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    221.DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Sorry, but Satele was not horrible.

    ——————————————————

    Yes he was which is why he was which is why there was talk of a rookie who had never played the position taking his spot.

    He was better this year than he was last year.
    ==========
    At the beginning of the season J. We all saw how that panned out w/ Veldheer at Center.

  241. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    Its not Cable news, so its news.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This is true.

    Better than waiting for the Al announcement. The one that never comes and you don’t like it anyway.

  242. RaiderWill Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    I’m so happy we fired Cable. Now it’s time to fire Marshall and Lal.

    -Marshall: it’s the same results as R Ryans Defense. We are top 10 against the pass, but we still allow too many yards against the run, and we can’t blame the offense anymore. I’m also sick of his S blitz, and who has a package that takes all the CBs off the field in a passing situation?!?!?! Crazzzzy!

    -Lal: look how we devolop our young WRs!

    ——————————————————-

    Yes this is not Marshalls fault. This is an AL Davis Scheme he wants implemented with any D cordinator we have. I rather keep Marshall at least he sold Davis the blitz.

  243. Raider O Says:

    What makes that package worse was the fact that they practiced it!!!!
    Crazy Monkey needs to go!

  244. DMAC Says:

    AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON, FOLKS.

  245. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Al will never pay a coach 5 to 7 million a year before that coach wins him a SB. Also, Al will never allow a coach to hire ALL of his own staff because of the loyalty to some of his current staff members.

    …………

    Do you really believe Al’s that stubborn? Do you believe he’s that detrimental to winning? I don’t think so. I think he has some convictions, but I think he wants to win, too. I don’t think he would sabotage himself to the point to where he would never give a good head coach a big contract to start off, or allow him to hire his own staff. You guys talk about Al Davis as if there’s just no hope for him. I don’t think he’s that crazy.

  246. No Mas Diamante Says:

    I see this a bit differently. I think Al will, and has been, very, very slowly giving up the day to day decisions. I think he hires a GM or a coach / gm combo guy. Al will still have some control, but i think he senses that he has to do this in order to reach the next level. I dont think Jackson is the choice.

  247. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Raider O Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    I’m so happy we fired Cable. Now it’s time to fire Marshall and Lal.

    -Marshall: it’s the same results as R Ryans Defense. We are top 10 against the pass, but we still allow too many yards against the run, and we can’t blame the offense anymore. I’m also sick of his S blitz, and who has a package that takes all the CBs off the field in a passing situation?!?!?! Crazzzzy!

    -Lal: look how we devolop our young WRs!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Fire Lal?
    But Al’s going to make him head coach when he fires Hue in two years.

  248. KoolKell Says:

    If Satele wasn’t horrible then there was no reason to experiment with starting Veldheer on the road at center against Tennessee.
    ——————————-
    How did that work out for ya?

  249. J Hill Says:

    And you’ll eat an unlimited amount of fecal mattered covered losses to defend him.

    ——————————————————

    Very colorful.

    What does that even mean?

    I accept the losing?

    Since you have yet to ride up to Alameda to handle Al for us, are you accepting the losses too?

    What are proposing we do to get another owner in here, post his losing record on blogs multiple times?

    Hell a billboard didn’t work, so what makes you think your methods will?

  250. DMAC Says:

    # ArmChair GM Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    221.DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Sorry, but Satele was not horrible.
    _______________________________________________________

    If Satele wasn’t horrible then there was no reason to experiment with starting Veldheer on the road at center against Tennessee.
    ======
    A Cable experiment.

  251. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    From Don Banks’ column:

    “Oakland Raiders
    Why it makes sense: Stop me if you’re heard this one before, but Harbaugh knows someone in the Raiders organization. Guy named Al Davis. I think he runs the place. Harbaugh was a Raiders offensive assistant in 2002-03 under head coach Bill Callahan, and he and Davis have remained friends. Davis certainly is intrigued by Harbaugh’s coaching work at Stanford, in his proverbial bay area backyard. Sources say one reason Davis moved so uncharacteristically quick in letting go of head coach Tom Cable this week was because he thinks he has a legitimate shot of enticing Harbaugh to Oakland.

    Why it may not work: It’s our considered opinion that Davis is delusional if he thinks he’s going to talk Harbaugh into the Raiders job, which isn’t exactly the league’s plum assignment in terms of working environment and hands-off ownership. The chances are greater that Harbaugh sees the Raiders’ interest as a way of leveraging his best possible deal out of the cross-bay 49ers, because we all know how much Davis likes losing any battle to the folks in San Francisco.

    And did we mention the Raiders aren’t known for paying head coaches even a fraction of the money Harbaugh is said to be seeking?

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/don_banks/01/05/jim-harbaugh-nfl/index.html#ixzz1AC8jueIk

    Lots of words to say “Hahahahah, no way Harbaugh coaches the Raiders. But he will use Al as a tool to jack up his asking price.”

  252. Raider75 Says:

    While the players responded well to Cable, most of them really like Jackson, too. He came from Baltimore and made as big an impression on the practice field as on game day, when the Raiders scored 213 more points than in 2009.

    His energy and trash-talking to defensive players was a highlight of training camp, and Jackson made a point to get to know all the players — not just the offensive ones. Before each game, he could be seen during warmups going player to player, offering a quick pep talk followed by a jab to the chest, handshake or pat on the back.

    Jackson often called Davis “Coach Davis,” and for all we know Davis called him “Coach Jackson” back all season.

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?entry_id=80368#ixzz1AC8uM0AK

  253. Raider O Says:

    Al wants us to be last against the run!?!?!
    Al wants he to have a package with no CBs on the field?!?!
    Al wants us to keep blitzing Ss?!?!?!

    Wow!

  254. YoungAmerican Says:

    Still not sure what a new DC will/would do differently than Marshall.

    The Raiders problems with stopping the run stem from a scheme where all four defensive linemen freelance in an attempt to get to the ball carrier, instead of playing disciplined and staying in their gaps, occupying blocks so the linebackers can come clean up.

    Unless Al finally lets his coaches not rely almost entirely on natural pressure on the QB from the four-man front, the Raiders are still going to give up the occasional (or frequent) big running play.

  255. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    al wants his philosophy above all even if it doesn’t fit his handpicked players. wants vertical passing game with seven step drops even though jc has stated early in the season that he does not feel that is a strength for him and lets not even mention his wr’s being greener than green and not reliable in routes or hands or that the line is made for running not passing. defense is all about line play if they play their butts off each and every snap then we have a chance.

  256. Raider O Says:

    England,

    If that ever happens, I will take care of the old man myself!

  257. RaiderWill Says:

    Still not sure what a new DC will/would do differently than Marshall.

    The Raiders problems with stopping the run stem from a scheme where all four defensive linemen freelance in an attempt to get to the ball carrier, instead of playing disciplined and staying in their gaps, occupying blocks so the linebackers can come clean up.

    Unless Al finally lets his coaches not rely almost entirely on natural pressure on the QB from the four-man front, the Raiders are still going to give up the occasional (or frequent) big running play.

    —————————————————-

    No matter who comes in here it always looks the same. Like I said before at least he sold AL the blitz. I think Marshall has faired a hell of alot better than Ryan did.

  258. J Hill Says:

    At the beginning of the season J. We all saw how that panned out w/ Veldheer at Center.

    —————————————————–

    Don’t get caught up in Kell’s attention grab DMAC.

    Veldheer at C was CABLE’s decision, not mine. Remember I wanted to draft Alex Mack, so it is what it is with Satele in my book.

  259. DMAC Says:

    I think Marshall has faired a hell of alot better than Ryan did.
    ========
    I 2nd that!

  260. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Players responded well to Cable…give me a break. Any NFL football player who doesn’t give 100% every play doesn’t belong in the league. We won 3 extra games this year for two reasons:

    JACOBY FORD

    DARREN MCFADDEN.

    That’s it.

  261. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    I think Marshall has faired a hell of alot better than Ryan did.

    +++++++++++++++++

    That’s a little like saying Nagasaki got off easier than Hiroshima.

  262. No Mas Diamante Says:

    Marshall > Ryan

  263. DMAC Says:

    # J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    At the beginning of the season J. We all saw how that panned out w/ Veldheer at Center.

    —————————————————–

    Don’t get caught up in Kell’s attention grab DMAC.

    Veldheer at C was CABLE’s decision, not mine. Remember I wanted to draft Alex Mack, so it is what it is with Satele in my book.
    ========
    I’m going w/ what I saw all season J. Satele struggled a bit at the beginning of the season, but IMO finished off pretty solid. There are other weaker links on the line.

  264. McRaider5150 Says:

    If Bush does not resign, it will have zero to do with Cable getting fired. Bush wants to be the #1 guy. He wants to ball 20 times a game and he will not get that here. He also would like a starters salary as well.

    I say we fanchise, then trade if there is a market for him. I don’t want to see him in the AFC west, or in SF. I think he would be better than Gore and can stay healthy.

  265. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Players responded really well to Cable vs. Miami and Jacksonville, didn’t they? Boy you could see that…

  266. raidertay Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 11:05 am
    Aren’t we all forgetting what went on in training camp. The players saying Hue was challenging the players and Cable just watched. No interaction from Cable with the line or Offense.
    Training camp was different and all you could hear is Hue with the players on both O & D.

    —————————————————–
    Remember the report from Jerry that AD came out to camp in his cart. Talked to Hue and left. He didnt even acnowledge Cable. We should have known then.

  267. YoungAmerican Says:

    I think the biggest problem with starting Veldheer at C wasn’t the idea in and of itself, it was that Cable neglected to try it until the season opener.

  268. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Veldheer at C was CABLE’s decision, not mine.
    ——————————————
    And YOU ate it up like schit covered goobers.

  269. Raider O Says:

    Let’s blame Al for starting garbagekowski!
    Let’s blame him for not playing Bush!
    Let’s blame him for activating 8-9 LBs and only 3 CBs!!!
    Let’s Blame him for allowing 31 points in 1 half!
    Let’s blame him for losing to AZ, SF, Tenn, and Miami!!
    Let’s blame him for not preparing for the steelers when he had 2 weeks to do it!!
    Let’s blame him for playing Veldheer at C the first game of the season!

  270. RaiderWill Says:

    I think if we lose Marshall it maybe a set back. The young core is getting comfortable with the Scheme. Not to mention ive never seen us blitz like this past year. It was nice to see, even though he got a little to happy with it. Like the dolphin game it just wasnt called for at times. He needs to pick his spots better.

  271. YoungAmerican Says:

    Wimbley = AFC Defensive Player of the Week

  272. Random Drug Tester Says:

    cut Lechler and Janokowski….sign Swayze Waters.

    Save a roster spot and a salary…and get rid of a choker and a cry-baby.

  273. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yeh, sure. Al deserves no blame. He’s only the owner of the team ,and the self proclaimed general manager…What does he have to do with any of this? LOL

  274. raidertay Says:

    I like Marshall. I hope we keep him. Didnt Cable bring him in.

  275. DMAC Says:

    In other news…….

    My ballz have a slight itch to them.

    Naw!

    I’m just fk’n w/ ya’ll
    LMAO

  276. J Hill Says:

    I’m going w/ what I saw all season J.

    —————————————————–

    And KELL was talking about preseason.

    I’ve already agreed with you that Satele improved as the season went on. But I think we can all agree that he still has room to get better.

    Going to be interesting to see if we resign him.

    Wouldn’t bet on it.

  277. r8eray Says:

    #252, seems to me that Hue’s got his knee pads on!

  278. RaiderWill Says:

    raidertay Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    I like Marshall. I hope we keep him. Didnt Cable bring him in.

    ————————-

    Head coachs dont bring anybody onto this team. Its all ran by the old man.

  279. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    if that’s the case there are a lot of players who don’t belong in the league. i am not sure who you are anymore madden, your gig was bad al. we are not getting gruden back, not that it wouldn’t be genius of davis a masterstroke move, but it just isn’t happening. i simply would rather have the raiders play 8-8 football with a last 2 weeks of the season chance at the playoffs and have the players actually playing as a team and for each other than go back to laughter after losing a game and losing 11+ a season. cable made that happen along with other things but it started with him.

  280. Raider O Says:

    Cable is a fat monkey, Marshall is a crazy monkey, and Lal is a useless monkey!

  281. J Hill Says:

    268.KoolKell Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Veldheer at C was CABLE’s decision, not mine.
    ——————————————
    And YOU ate it up like schit covered goobers.

    ——————————————————

    I thought your point was Al Davis fecal matter, bit Tom Cable decisions?

  282. raidertay Says:

    Maybe Hue will bring in some B’More defensive coaches.

  283. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Hobs, for now on, get a grown up to type your comments for you so I can understand them.

  284. Raider O Says:

    Fire the 2 other monkeys! No more Monkey Business!!

  285. RaiderWill Says:

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    if that’s the case there are a lot of players who don’t belong in the league. i am not sure who you are anymore madden, your gig was bad al. we are not getting gruden back, not that it wouldn’t be genius of davis a masterstroke move, but it just isn’t happening. i simply would rather have the raiders play 8-8 football with a last 2 weeks of the season chance at the playoffs and have the players actually playing as a team and for each other than go back to laughter after losing a game and losing 11+ a season. cable made that happen along with other things but it started with him.

    —————————————————-

    Who is this guy ???

  286. DMAC Says:

    You guys want a real coach.
    You got it……..

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c3v0yIrAxb8/SQ6uReyaIzI/AAAAAAAAAyU/YXwcIsiupBQ/s400/Jeff+Fisher7.jpg

  287. Raider O Says:

    Will,

    I agree bro. I do credit Marshall for blitzing more, but that wasn’t enough to keep his job. We need results.

  288. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    that jacksonville game was theirs to win, it wasn’t a blow out by any means, they fought to win it at the last minute (no one quit) and if jano kicks that f’ing ball for a touchback that play never happens. should coulda woulda but that game was a coin flip away. miami was embarrassed by the stealers the week before they were a tough team at that point.

  289. DMAC Says:

    Hey O,
    Got a nice one for you.

    http://www.abergifts.com/images/NO%20MONKEY%20BUSINESS.jpg

  290. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    raiderwill i have been on this blog for 4 years, who are u? i don’t post everyday, don’t have the time.

  291. YoungAmerican Says:

    I like Fisher, but it seems like he’d had enough of the overbearing Bud Adams. Not sure if he’d want his first new coaching gig after 16 seasons in Tennessee to be for Al Davis.

  292. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    madden, not long ago i think you asked me to be your wingman. it was about two years ago, my have i fallen from your grace?

  293. raidertay Says:

    No Mas Diamante Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
    What a slap in the face to hue jack administered by SF. He was used to satisfy the rooney rule and to possibly gain a lttle info into his football philosphy and that is it. They had no intention of ever signing him. The job is harbaughs if he wants it and that’s always been the plan.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You never know. The Steelers admitted that they had no intention of hiring Tomlin until he blew them away in the interview. They could have had any coach they wanted. Thats the beauty of the Rooney rule. It doesnt require that you hire anyone, but gives minorities (not just Black coaches) a shot.

  294. inonewordraider Says:

    GG Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 10:53 am
    The real winner in all that happened yesterday was Swayze Waters.

    YES!

  295. alex7 Says:

    If DHB was “worth” $6-8 million a year on his rookie contract, Al better not blink at Harbaugh also asking for $6 million.

    Shoot, we’re paying our kicker and punter about $6 million combined, and they both can be adequately replaced my minimum-wage 5th and 6th rounders.

  296. McRaider5150 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    # McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Al will never pay a coach 5 to 7 million a year before that coach wins him a SB. Also, Al will never allow a coach to hire ALL of his own staff because of the loyalty to some of his current staff members.

    …………

    Do you really believe Al’s that stubborn? Do you believe he’s that detrimental to winning? I don’t think so. I think he has some convictions, but I think he wants to win, too. I don’t think he would sabotage himself to the point to where he would never give a good head coach a big contract to start off, or allow him to hire his own staff. You guys talk about Al Davis as if there’s just no hope for him. I don’t think he’s that crazy.
    ————————-
    Sorry man, but he’s had plenty of time to show that he values coaches. Please tell me what makes you think he will hire a proven coach over promoting and OC?

    Madden- No HC Exp
    Flores- No HC Exp
    Bugel- No HC Exp
    White- No HC Exp
    Shana- No HC Exp
    Shell- No HC Exp
    Gruden- No HC Exp
    Calaha- No HC Exp
    Norv- HC with Skins (not a good HC)
    Kiffin- No HC or NFL Exp
    Cable, or HC Exp
    —————

    I would like to be optimistic, but I am being realistic.

    He’s not going to pay a college coach 5 mil.

  297. Raider75 Says:

    timkawakami Tim Kawakami
    Safe to say Harbaugh will want more than the $30M deal received by rival Pete Carroll. Presumably the 49ers know this & are ready to pay it.

  298. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    madden, not long ago i think you asked me to be your wingman. it was about two years ago, my have i fallen from your grace?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Lol!
    He comes in many guises.

  299. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Cable is heading to Denver.

    the bad news is he’s taking Bush, Miller, Huff & Wimbley with him!

    Seymour will be tagged …

  300. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, Hobs, I asked you to be my “wingman”. LOL. Sorry, Goose.

  301. Raider O Says:

    LMAO DMAC. Is it just me, or did that monkey look fat to you too?

  302. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Marshall came here for one reason because he had connections with Cable.

    Don’t be suprised if a familiar fat figure becomes either our next DC of HC.

  303. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    McRaider,

    I don’t think Al’s that stubborn and that detrimental to winning. You talk about Al as if there’s just no hope for him. He’s going to do things his way and that’s that. I don’t think he’s that screwed up. I think the guy will make changes to win.

  304. DMAC Says:

    He is a little over weight.

  305. DKnight007 Says:

    Only way Harbaugh goes to the Niners is if they are stupid enough to pay him 5.5-6 million a year??

    Ludicrous for an unproven Head Coach at the NFL level!

    I like Harbaugh, but him that much money is utterly ridiculous!

    They won’t get him unless they pay him that much!

    Quite sad actually

  306. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    You did Madden. You said you could use a good second to help you with your Al is an idiot argument or something to that effect. I know you remember, it’s not like you to forget. Talk to me Goose!

  307. Dakota Says:

    Imagine if Al brought Gruden back and gave him a little control over the roster….our QB chart in August might look like this:

    Jason Campbell
    Bruce Garbagekowski
    Vince Young
    Matt Leinart
    Daunte Culledpecker
    Jeff Garcia
    John Kitna

  308. inonewordraider Says:

    Smells like Cable did what he wanted (Ie. benching Campbell for Grads, not playing B Campbell) and since we didn’t make the playoffs he’s gone. Truth is I don’t see Cable as an elite coach but if Hue doesn’t come back or Harbaugh doesn’t come to Oakland we’re f’d

  309. Dakota Says:

    299.RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    Tom Cable is heading to Denver.

    _______________

    As HC? We can only hope!

  310. DMAC Says:

    If your uncle Al, who would be your first Raider free agent to be resigned? (besides Seymour)

  311. Nnamdi21 Says:

    295. Get a clue. J Kow and Lechler can be replaced by scrubs?

    They are two of the best to EVER play the position.

    You obviously have no clue what Oakland went thru before they came.

  312. DKnight007 Says:

    299.RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    Tom Cable is heading to Denver.

    the bad news is he’s taking Bush, Miller, Huff & Wimbley with him!

    Seymour will be tagged …

    ^^^^^^^
    I can see Cable guy being the next O-Line coach in Denver, Seattle, Cleveland or Carolina.

  313. inonewordraider Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    Imagine if Al brought Gruden back and gave him a little control over the roster….our QB chart in August might look like this:

    Jason Campbell
    Bruce Garbagekowski
    Vince Young
    Matt Leinart
    Daunte Culledpecker
    Jeff Garcia
    John Kitna

    Haha Jason would suck then with all the pressure to perform when all those qbs are breathing down his neck

  314. Dakota Says:

    With no CBA we don’t even know who will be free agents or not…so why bother?

  315. DKnight007 Says:

    310.DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    If your uncle Al, who would be your first Raider free agent to be resigned? (besides Seymour)

    ^^^^^^^^
    Gallery, Huff, Bush and Satele in that order!

  316. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hue Jackson became very close with Chuck Bresnahan from 2004-2006 while both were employed by the Cincinnati Bengals. Bresnahan stands a very good chance of becoming the Raiders Defensive Coordinator next season, a position he previously held from 2000-2003

    Roto World

  317. RaiderWill Says:

    Imagine if Al brought Gruden back and gave him a little control over the roster….our QB chart in August might look like this:

    Jason Campbell
    Bruce Garbagekowski
    Vince Young
    Matt Leinart
    Daunte Culledpecker
    Jeff Garcia
    John Kitna

    —————————————————–

    Anyone with a big arm you can scratch off this list. You can put Mcnabb on here though he fits his west cost philosphy type of qb. He’s built this team for a vertical pass offense so you can forget Gruden.

  318. DKnight007 Says:

    314.Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    With no CBA we don’t even know who will be free agents or not…so why bother?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!

  319. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    Dmac……Miller @ TE

  320. McRaider5150 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    McRaider,

    I don’t think Al’s that stubborn and that detrimental to winning. You talk about Al as if there’s just no hope for him. He’s going to do things his way and that’s that. I don’t think he’s that screwed up. I think the guy will make changes to win.
    ———————-
    He’ll make changes in hopes of winning. I would never questions Al desire to win.

    But he wants a coach to come in and win his way. He is not going to let a coach come in and do what Josh MacD did to Denver.

  321. ibcode3 Says:

    Cable said in his own interview that he is a O-line coach. He will never be a HC again. Atleast not in the NFL. He should be kissing Al butt for the opportunity

  322. inonewordraider Says:

    DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    If your uncle Al, who would be your first Raider free agent to be resigned? (besides Seymour)

    Michael Huff = playmaker

  323. DMAC Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Hue Jackson became very close with Chuck Bresnahan from 2004-2006 while both were employed by the Cincinnati Bengals. Bresnahan stands a very good chance of becoming the Raiders Defensive Coordinator next season, a position he previously held from 2000-2003

    Roto World
    ==========
    That would be nice.

  324. Nnamdi21 Says:

    308. Have to admit Cable did make some questionable personell choices but look at Davis.

    He kept Yvonne Walker for years…

  325. Raider O Says:

    Nnamdi,
    Jano’s avg is 79+%!! that’s not great!

    Lechler is great, but he is still a punter.

  326. DMAC Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    314.Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    With no CBA we don’t even know who will be free agents or not…so why bother?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!
    ========
    Change of conversation.
    Its better than starting rumors of Chucky flying to Oakland.

  327. Nnamdi21 Says:

    322. Have to wait for a CBA or strike.

  328. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    You did Madden. You said you could use a good second to help you with your Al is an idiot argument or something to that effect. I know you remember, it’s not like you to forget. Talk to me Goose!

    …………….

    It’s me and you, Hobs. To the end.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2M7QwHnVXQ

  329. ArchiveTony Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    madden, not long ago i think you asked me to be your wingman. it was about two years ago, my have i fallen from your grace?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Lol!
    He comes in many guises.
    ===============
    You would think he wouldn’t be so obvious?

    maybe it’s by design~

  330. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Cable is heading to CO as Head Coach of the Denver Broncos.

    the bad news is he’s taking Bush, Miller, Huff & Wimbley with him!

  331. Nnamdi21 Says:

    325. Does Davis over pay? Absolutely. Are these two great? Absolutely. Did I want to strangle Jano with his girdle after the Arizona game? Absolutely…

  332. morilla Says:

    Can you guys even read? It was Baby Hueys call to bench Campbell.

  333. Dakota Says:

    326.DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    314.Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    With no CBA we don’t even know who will be free agents or not…so why bother?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!
    ========
    Change of conversation.
    Its better than starting rumors of Chucky flying to Oakland.

    ________

    Oh come on….made you look! That was funny! Too me at least!

  334. Nnamdi21 Says:

    330. Cable is headed back to college.

  335. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    McRaider,

    I don’t think Al’s that stubborn and that detrimental to winning. You talk about Al as if there’s just no hope for him. He’s going to do things his way and that’s that. I don’t think he’s that screwed up. I think the guy will make changes to win.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    OK, that is clearly not MR’s opinion of Al
    Therefore, MR is imply pretending to engage McRaider in a phoney conversation (i.e. talking to himself again).

  336. RaiderWill Says:

    morilla Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Can you guys even read? It was Baby Hueys call to bench Campbell.

    ———————————————

    Dont believe everything you read thats all i can tell you.

  337. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    lechler is a weapon like no one else has. he could make any team in the nfl and be a pro bowler for them, let’s not kid ourselves about the punter……he’s a heck of a punter. who do you want kicking from out of your end zone?

  338. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    McRaider, I don’t think so. You’re saying Al will basically never allow the team to improve. That he will only do things his way, his way only. I don’t think so. I think Al will make changes to put wins on the board.

  339. DMAC Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    326.DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    314.Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    With no CBA we don’t even know who will be free agents or not…so why bother?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!
    ========
    Change of conversation.
    Its better than starting rumors of Chucky flying to Oakland.

    ________

    Oh come on….made you look! That was funny! Too me at least!
    ============
    Hell to the no. I stopped reading after the first sentence.

  340. Nnamdi21 Says:

    McDaniels was to Denver as Kiffen was to Oakland…

  341. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    hue even said so, was he lying?

  342. ArchiveTony Says:

    Question: What is Lechler tripping about?

    He says ‘I can’t go through another head coach. I just can’t”

    YOU ARE A PUNTER!

    Mild work in the weight room. Light jogging. lots of stretching.
    oh yeah. and punt a ball into the air.

    how does a head coach affect any of the above?

    Oh, I know. Stretching, then jogging, then weight room?
    well, that makes sense.
    in that case, Lech should be thrilled.

  343. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Uh oh, McRaider, did you hear that? You’re me. Says’ EnglandRaider. They caught us again! LOL.

  344. Raider O Says:

    How come Nnamdi, Seymour, anr DMC didn’t day anything? Who cares about a punter! It must have been a low day for the media to interview a punter!

  345. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    # morilla Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Can you guys even read? It was Baby Hueys call to bench Campbell.
    ===================================================

    it was hue’s idea, it was cables call. this was only during the first two games. Whos idea was it to bench him in pitt miami, arz and houston? I didnt hear hu jack say he did it.

  346. ArchiveTony Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    # Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    326.DMAC Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    # DKnight007 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    314.Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    With no CBA we don’t even know who will be free agents or not…so why bother?

    ^^^^^^^^
    Exactly!
    ========
    Change of conversation.
    Its better than starting rumors of Chucky flying to Oakland.

    ________

    Oh come on….made you look! That was funny! Too me at least!
    ============
    Hell to the no. I stopped reading after the first sentence.
    ============

    Is this kind of like when someone says “I’m done posting to you” then proceeds to remind them of that a couple dozen times?

  347. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    madden,

    are you really saying al will make changes to put wins on the board? alien abduction? have you been kidnapped and brain washed by herrera? sorry but that is not you.

  348. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    ibcode3 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Cable said in his own interview that he is a O-line coach. He will never be a HC again. Atleast not in the NFL. He should be kissing Al butt for the opportunity

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    He can’t do that while you’re busy changing Al’s diaper.

  349. Dakota Says:

    340.Nnamdi21 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    McDaniels was to Denver as Kiffen was to Oakland…

    +++++++++++++

    Cable was to Oakland as Wade Phillips was to Dungver. Wait, no even Wade Phillips was better than Cable!

  350. Raider O Says:

    Say*

  351. ArchiveTony Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    How come Nnamdi, Seymour, anr DMC didn’t day anything? Who cares about a punter! It must have been a low day for the media to interview a punter!
    =============
    Seems Lechler called into the show, on his own, and did a phone chat

  352. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Hobs, are you reading EnglandRaiders’ comments? I’m actually McRaider, too. According to Archive Tony (Richochet), I’m also GhosttothePost. Of course, I could be Jerry. These guys are good. Raider fans were detectives in their former lives.

  353. ibcode3 Says:

    348.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
    ibcode3 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Cable said in his own interview that he is a O-line coach. He will never be a HC again. Atleast not in the NFL. He should be kissing Al butt for the opportunity

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    He can’t do that while you’re busy changing Al’s diaper.

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    A Funny!!!

  354. r8eray Says:

    Jason Campbell on NFL Live in a few minutes!

  355. Raider75 Says:

    Al should be awake in a few more hours and the news will start flowing again.

  356. McRaider5150 Says:

    ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    McRaider,

    I don’t think Al’s that stubborn and that detrimental to winning. You talk about Al as if there’s just no hope for him. He’s going to do things his way and that’s that. I don’t think he’s that screwed up. I think the guy will make changes to win.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    OK, that is clearly not MR’s opinion of Al
    Therefore, MR is imply pretending to engage McRaider in a phoney conversation (i.e. talking to himself again).

    ———————–
    Damn and I didn’t even catch that. I thought Madden was a Al hater.

  357. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LOL ..355

  358. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    McRaider, what are you doing? We’re the same guy! EnglandRaider already figured us out. Cat’s out of the bag. Let’s just stop.

  359. Raider O Says:

    Jano’s avg is 79%, and you think that’s great?!

  360. Dakota Says:

    354.r8eray Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    Jason Campbell on NFL Live in a few minutes!
    ____________

    Al is sending out his troops to rally support for his decision. Next we will see Romo popping up.

  361. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    well it’s hard to keep up with everyone when you don’t read the posts each and every day. you are sounding very un you. i wouldn’t have pegged you for anchovy tony.

  362. ArchiveTony Says:

    # ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    McRaider,

    I don’t think Al’s that stubborn and that detrimental to winning. You talk about Al as if there’s just no hope for him. He’s going to do things his way and that’s that. I don’t think he’s that screwed up. I think the guy will make changes to win.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    OK, that is clearly not MR’s opinion of Al
    Therefore, MR is imply pretending to engage McRaider in a phoney conversation (i.e. talking to himself again).
    ===================
    lol.
    Same M.O.
    Different day.
    Same group of people laughing at him.
    Same sorry little joke of a man rushing to accuse you of being someone different, me of being someone different, while calling out to his other handle how “funny” everyone is for pointing out the obvious.

  363. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Raider75 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    Al should be awake in a few more hours and the news will start flowing again.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    LMAO!

  364. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Jano’s average is 80 proof.

  365. kokomo Says:

    There is just NO WAY Al will get Harbaugh. Harbaugh is looking at a similar deal Carrol got in Seattle and we all know Al is a miser. So it’ll be either Hue Jackson or one of the other losers like Fassel, Gilbride etc

  366. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    360. not to mention the al propagandists will be coming onto the blog. free tickets anyone?

  367. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    I have to say, I’m a bit surprised we haven’t seen some website making up “Davis to reach out to Gruden” rumors just to drive their hit count up.

  368. McRaider5150 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    Uh oh, McRaider, did you hear that? You’re me. Says’ EnglandRaider. They caught us again! LOL.

    oh, I didn’t get that at first. So we are the same person???? Got it.

    Well Madden, We’ll have to agree to disagree. Al will always do it his way and expect his coaches to do it his way. When it doesn’t work, it’s the coaches fault for not making it work.

  369. ArchiveTony Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    McRaider, what are you doing? We’re the same guy! EnglandRaider already figured us out. Cat’s out of the bag. Let’s just stop.
    =================
    This was your same reply, give or take a word, for the last half dozen times you created a new name, just so you have someone to “talk to”.

    Maybe you should change your schtick?

    Naw. Wouldn’t work. too transparent.

    Carry on

  370. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Next we will see Romo popping up.

    …………

    The same Romo who said Schefter’s report was “BS” the other day.

    But you’re right, Romo will show up and shill for Al’s decision.

    “The good thing about this is that the Raiders can just finally get out there and crack some peoples’ f#@##ng heads! Because that’s what’s it’s all about.”

  371. r8eray Says:

    LOL…Campbell trying to talk smart!!

  372. daraider09 Says:

    I couldn’t disagree more with the post about John Marshall. You can’t compare his defense to Rob Ryan’s. Rob Ryan is a 3-4 defensive coordinator like his brother. He tried to implement that his 1st or 2nd season here with the likes of Tyler Brayton and Grant Irons playing OLB and Warren Sapp playing the Richard Seymour NE Patriots role as a 3-4 Defensive End. That is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Those just weren’t the players for that system, so we never saw what Rob Ryan could have done if he was allowed to build a defense like that over a few seasons. So when that failed miserably, he was forced to play a vanilla 4-3 man-to-man defense throughout his final few years here, by Davis. The same problems kept occurring no matter which players were brought in or upgraded. The problem was, and is always against the run. That is because when you play man-to-man the corners and linebackers have an assignment to follow their man. This gets the corners back turned to the line of scrimmage and preoccupied, and opens things up for the running backs to find more lanes. The Raiders can play tough on the D-line all game, but ONE or two bad run fits by a D-Linemen or linebacker and it is nothing but open space for the running backs. It’s not that the players aren’t good, or that Marshall or Ryan weren’t good coordinators. It is that the Raiders play the same type of defense almost always and other teams know that so they are susceptible to a big gash run sooner or later. So the opposing teams never abandon the run against the Raiders. This season, it seemed to improve because we upgraded the talent level of the defense quit a bit, so they were able to have the occasional game where they played dominate defense. Like the first Denver and the Seattle game. That’s mainly because the D-Line was ferocious and did not allow running lanes. But the minute they did, you saw what would happen. Most every game you can recall a gashing huge run allowed by our defense. It would be just like old times with Kirk Morrison and Thomas Howard on the field. ONE PLAY by the running back and he has his 100+ yard game because he got 70 yards on one play. I truly believe that as long as Davis is around this would never change no matter who the coordinator is. Firing John Marshall does nothing besides make the players have to learn something new from a different coordinator, not to mention more turnover which could be the last straw for free agents to want out like Seymour. Where would we be without him???

  373. ArchiveTony Says:

    # McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Well Madden, We’ll have to agree to disagree.

    ====================
    LMAO.

    You idiot.

    You say that everytime.

    which leads to you now making up with yourself.

    where you then start complimenting yourself.

    and then you get a new name.

    Wow.

    Yep. you sure fooled us.

  374. r8eray Says:

    From the sounds of Campbell….it sounds like HUE is our new coach!!
    It’s CONFIRMED!!!

  375. The one who really knows Says:

    Nice one, MR.

    Guys, if you can’t see this one from a mile away…

    MR is actually “Archive Tony”. Notice how they both show up the same time, and both start arguing with each other.

  376. Dakota Says:

    It blows my mind that Al Davis will blow hundreds of millions of dollars on guys like DHB, Russell, Wilson, Walker, Harris, Fargas etc, but can’t pony up $5-7 million a year for 4 years to get us a coach with a chance to take us to the SB.

    Talk about penny smart and pound foolish.

  377. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    268.KoolKell Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    J Hill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Veldheer at C was CABLE’s decision, not mine.
    ——————————————
    And YOU ate it up like schit covered goobers.

    ——————————————————

    I thought your point was Al Davis fecal matter, bit Tom Cable decisions?
    ————————————-
    You thought like Vitt, you thought you farted, but had schit.

  378. ArchiveTony Says:

    #1 reason harbaugh won’t even bother to pay the $4.00 to cross the bridge, and talk to Al.

    $$$$$$$$$

    Harbaugh will be expecting lots of it.

    Al doesn’t pay head coaches $$$$$$$$$$

    more on the line of $$$$

    When they expect $$$$$$$$$$$$, Al sabotages the deal.

    Exhibit A: See Chucky

  379. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Im so tired of AL’s Bull$#!}

  380. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh, now I’m Archive Tony! Of course, Archive Tony is Richochet, everyone knows that. But according to this “one who knows” (EnglandRaider, probably..), I’m now Richochet. This is too fun. People, let me guess, I’m the man on the moon, too!

  381. ArchiveTony Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    It blows my mind that Al Davis will blow hundreds of millions of dollars on guys like DHB, Russell, Wilson, Walker, Harris, Fargas etc, but can’t pony up $5-7 million a year for 4 years to get us a coach with a chance to take us to the SB.

    Talk about penny smart and pound foolish.
    ====================
    Bingo

  382. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    OC candidates if Hue becomes Timeout and Challenge Coordinator:

    Ted Tollner-current passing game coordinator
    Bill Musgrave-current Atlanta QB Coach
    Kim Helton-former Oakland OL coach
    Al Saunders-current offensive consultant for Ravens
    Joe Pendry-current OL coach at Alabama
    Josh McDaniels-former Broncos head coach

  383. ArchiveTony Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Oh, now I’m Archive Tony! Of course, Archive Tony is Richochet, everyone knows that. But according to this “one who knows” (EnglandRaider, probably..), I’m now Richochet. This is too fun. People, let me guess, I’m the man on the moon, too!
    —————-
    Don’t you accuse everyone of being ricochet?
    Again, hows that workin for ya?

  384. The one who really knows Says:

    ArchiveTony Says:

    “Don’t you accuse everyone of being ricochet?
    Again, hows that workin for ya?”

    Nice try, MR ^^^^

  385. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    It blows my mind that Al Davis will blow hundreds of millions of dollars on guys like DHB, Russell, Wilson, Walker, Harris, Fargas etc, but can’t pony up $5-7 million a year for 4 years to get us a coach with a chance to take us to the SB.

    Talk about penny smart and pound foolish.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I agree.

    Kawakami theorizes that it’s because Al is fully aware of how fast he, Davis, sours on coaches and doesn’t want to pay guys who aren’t coaching for him.

  386. The one who really knows Says:

    ArchiveTony Says:

    “#1 reason harbaugh won’t even bother to pay the $4.00 to cross the bridge, and talk to Al.

    $$$$$$$$$

    Harbaugh will be expecting lots of it.

    Al doesn’t pay head coaches $$$$$$$$$$

    more on the line of $$$$

    When they expect $$$$$$$$$$$$, Al sabotages the deal.

    Exhibit A: See Chucky”

    Well said, MR. Couldn’t agree more.

  387. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    A guy and his wife are having some marital problems.
    One day the guy comes home with a live rabbit in his arms.
    He goes in his house, sits down at the dinner table.
    His wife comes in, looks at him and the rabbit in his arms, says nothing and goes out to get the dinner.
    She comes back into the room with the dinner and sits down, looking at her husband and the rabbit.
    Guy looks at her, looks at the rabbit.
    He says: This is the pig I’ve bee fuk’n all these years.
    His wife looks at him, sneering.
    That’s not a pig stupid, she says.
    Guy says, I wasn’t talking to you.

    Yeah I know its an old joke but like Raider75 said, the news won’t be flowing again until Al wakes up in a few hours.

    I’ll bet Al sits straight up in bed every morning and yells out: You’re fired!

  388. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    One who really knows,

    Richochet is not going to be happy that you’re accusing him of being me. Next, he’ll accuse you of being me.

  389. KoolKell Says:

    If you’ve read Jerry piece above, you know that Cable wanted to run the ball, Al didn’t.

    Dmac/Bush
    Jason Campbell
    Rookie WR’s.

    Cable wanted to run the ball, Al, didn’t

  390. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    Im not sure harbaugh will be a good nfl coach. being here in the bay there are plenty of reports about his iron fisted style to coaching. does that work in the nfl from an unproven guy? it didnt work for singletary. however we have already what hu-jack can do, it is is damn good.

  391. kokomo Says:

    If Hue is HC, Al Saunders would be a good OC candidate. Campbell has played for him in DC

  392. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    i am willing to bet there will be no oc with hue as hc, saves a measly amount by nfl standards but al pockets that

  393. McRaider5150 Says:

    ArchiveTony Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    # McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Well Madden, We’ll have to agree to disagree.

    ====================
    LMAO.

    You idiot.

    You say that everytime.

    which leads to you now making up with yourself.

    where you then start complimenting yourself.

    and then you get a new name.

    Wow.

    Yep. you sure fooled us.

    ————————-
    Funny $hi+

    I think I might really start posting as 2 different people, but instead I will agree with everything I say and compliment myself on how smart I am and how I should be a GM for an NFL team.

  394. chappy23us Says:

    “They can’t call us losers anymore!” For the first time in 8 years I was not ashamed of my team. It took Al all of two days to remind me of what the Raiders are and will always be as long as he is calling the shots. Losers!

  395. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    McRaider, well said. Oh, wait, …you’re me!

  396. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable: “We’re not losers anymore”

    Davis: “Yes, we are”

  397. Dakota Says:

    394.chappy23us Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    “They can’t call us losers anymore!” For the first time in 8 years I was not ashamed of my team. It took Al all of two days to remind me of what the Raiders are and will always be as long as he is calling the shots. Losers!
    ++++++++++++

    Hey Tom Cable, shouldn’t you be looking for work right now instead of posting in this blog?

  398. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    I would rather have hu jack than cable or harbaugh. cable stinks on ice, and harbaugh is unproven and an extreme tyrant.

  399. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    Cable: “We’re not losers anymore”

    Davis: “Yes, we are”

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    LOL!!

  400. J Hill Says:

    Chance to make playoffs …

    We go 2-4 with 2 incredibly bad losses to Miami and Jags.

    You’re fired!

  401. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Wait, I just laughed at something RMR said, so I guess that makes me RMR as well!

  402. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    SilvernBlackPA, darn, we’re caught again! Well, at least we confessed it before Richochet called us on it. Wait, why am I saying “us”? We’re the same person!

  403. Raider75 Says:

    # chappy23us Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    “They can’t call us losers anymore!” For the first time in 8 years I was not ashamed of my team. It took Al all of two days to remind me of what the Raiders are and will always be as long as he is calling the shots. Losers!
    …..

    You mean the same Al Davis that was in charge 8-9-& 10 years ago when they were winning?

  404. Dakota Says:

    http://mediaoutrage.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/tom-cable.jpg?w=447&h=512

    “Welcome to McDonalds where we are not losers anymore! Would you like fries with that?”

  405. J Hill Says:

    Hey Tom Cable, shouldn’t you be looking for work right now instead of posting in this blog?

    —————————————————–

    No one is taking his call.

  406. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    EVERYONE HERE IS ME, AND I AM EVERYONE HERE! Where would we be without Richochet’s vigilante eye?

  407. chappy23us Says:

    Just to spite Al I hope that Hue Jackson gets the 49ers job. Al is forced to bring back Art Shell and Tom Walsh. Let’s remember the good old days with the “bed and breakfast offense”. At least we will have a top 3 pick in 2012

  408. souldogdave Says:

    Someone up there posted an objection to calling Randy Hanson a “skinny assistant”, and then stated he was 6′3″and 190lbs.That is a twig!!Why would any idiot bring up Randy Hanson anyway?(Besides my horrified reaction, of course).I’m sorry, but now that they dumped Tom Cable, will there be lobbying for Randy Hanson in Raiderville?Is Al on PurpleDrank?I have always considered Al Davis the “Evel Knievel” of football,but this decision was probably made a while ago.Too bad for Tom, but he has achieved a certain cachet for inspiring the uninspirable.It will be interesting to see how this shakes out,is there a Dark Horse head coach looming?Is it the obvious Hue Jackson?Who will the coordinators be?If Hanson resurfaces, FTW, I’m moving to Maui to fish.

  409. Raider O Says:

    Jim Rome is an idiot.

  410. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Just to spite Al I hope that Hue Jackson gets the 49ers job. Al is forced to bring back Art Shell

    ***

    me too, Chap!

    Art Shell as HC with Josh McDaniels as OC and the current OL Coach (Jim M.) would have this team 12-4 next year

  411. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    What did Jim Rome have to say??

  412. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    you mean when gruden/allen was here when we were winning? then everything turned to crap when al touched his midas touch and got us draft picks for a coach. yeah we went to the super bowl but how does a team that good get so bad so fast?

  413. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    obviously Al has his man lined up, otherwise we would have cable still waiting to get the axe

  414. RaiderRockstar Says:

    is there a Dark Horse head coach looming?

    ***

    let’s hope so!

    Hue Jackson = flop waiting to happen

  415. Raider75 Says:

    twitter…

    MaioccoCSN Matt Maiocco
    by PGutierrezCSN
    RT @JasonLaCanfora Hue Jackson did indeed interview with 49ers today. Lengthy. Went very well I’m told. Made a strong impression.

  416. McRaider5150 Says:

    That’s talent either you have 3 or 4 different CP screens up at one time, or you are logging in an out like crazy. How do you keep up with yourself????

    I mean how does he…me..you..they…shoot, never mind

  417. KoolKell Says:

    The 49ers hadn’t even offered Jackson anything yet, had they?

    They’re meeting today!

  418. Dakota Says:

    Chris Mortensen said something on Mike and Mike this morning about Harbaugh and the Raiders being a possibility with Mike Lombardi coming back to Oakland.

    What did Al say about Lombardi at the Kiffin presser? He has a lot of ability? Something like that.

    Lombardi fills the buffer roll like Bruce Allen did before him?

    You have to remember, Harbaugh was here when things were good. He knows people can succeed under Al Davis.

  419. DMAC Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    The 49ers hadn’t even offered Jackson anything yet, had they?

    They’re meeting today!
    =======
    Reports are they met this morning.

  420. Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:

    can someone please explain the dislike for hujack? We are now a legti top 10 offense, in points per game and tardage gained. we were 31st last year. whats not to like. he did it with terrible pass protectioin, suspect run blocking, and no wrs.

    Wait til he gets his guys in,its going to be nuts!!!

  421. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hue Jackson did indeed interview with 49ers today. Lengthy. Went very well I’m told. Made a strong impression.

    ***

    Yes!

    hopefully Jim Harbaugh is out of their price range :)

  422. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    al can’t win all by himself, but he can sure lose all by himself. that’s why he would rather get the limelight for discovering head coaches rather than share the limelight with a great head coach because he’d rather get all the attnetion himself. in some ways when you are that old you revert back to being childish to get attention. his age is a real issue.

  423. McRaider5150 Says:

    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    can someone please explain the dislike for hujack? We are now a legti top 10 offense, in points per game and tardage gained. we were 31st last year. whats not to like. he did it with terrible pass protectioin, suspect run blocking, and no wrs.

    Wait til he gets his guys in,its going to be nuts!!!

    ——————————-

    Mistic, Stupidity can’t be explained

  424. KoolKell Says:

    McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:40 pm

    That’s talent either you have 3 or 4 different CP screens up at one time, or you are logging in an out like crazy. How do you keep up with yourself????
    ———————————-
    Raider employees?

  425. ArchiveTony Says:

    lol @ MR, two new names, just like that, to post to/about MR.

    get help, little man.

    now

  426. Raider O Says:

    Normal media Al bashing crap.

  427. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    i am willing to bet there will be no oc with hue as hc, saves a measly amount by nfl standards but al pockets that

    *****************************

    Exact thing happened in 2008.

    Hence the creating of things called “Passing game co-ordinators”.

  428. KoolKell Says:

    Old people tend to get selfish. Al Davis was born selfish. Not a good combo.

  429. ohioraider Says:

    Shane Lechler quote:
    “Whether he can call plays and pull off the whole head coaching deal and deal with Al Davis on the side, I don’t know. That’s a lot on somebody’s plate, so we’ll see.”
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    The key phrase being…”and deal with Al Davis on the side.”

    Hahahaha…Shane knows the score.

  430. Dakota Says:

    Who was that FB from Ark last night….looked like that kid is just the blocking FB we need!

  431. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    i’ll eat my shoe if harbaugh comes to coach the raiders. post it on you tube too.

  432. RaiderWill Says:

    McRaider5150 Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
    Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    can someone please explain the dislike for hujack? We are now a legti top 10 offense, in points per game and tardage gained. we were 31st last year. whats not to like. he did it with terrible pass protectioin, suspect run blocking, and no wrs.

    Wait til he gets his guys in,its going to be nuts!!!

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    Mistic, Stupidity can’t be explained

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    They are so use to losing they dont know a good coach if it hit them over the head. Which Hue did this past season hit us over the head: 31st to 9th on offense.

  433. RaiderWill Says:

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
    i’ll eat my shoe if harbaugh comes to coach the raiders. post it on you tube too.

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    It has to be an old shoe though.

  434. SilverNBlackPA Says:

    Dakota,

    My memory is that Davis threw Lombardi under the bus and said something like “That guy’s been fired from every job he’s every had.”

    I could be wrong about that though; Davis may have been referring to someone else.

  435. J Hill Says:

    409.Raider O Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Jim Rome is an idiot.

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    I thought it was pretty funny.

    Said he was upset Al took the professinal route with Cable instead of breaking out the overhead projector.

    LOL!

  436. Raiderbuck Says:

    5-11 in 11 mark it, it was here first.

    Al likes to take that crap and shoot himself right in the foot! Cable would have had these guys playing.

    Harbaugh isn’t coming here, he strikes me as a smart fella and will just stay away.

  437. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    #1 reason Hue Jackson will become the next Raider Coach, he loves cheeseburgers from McDonalds and KFC Coleslaw

  438. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Mistic,

    Not anti-Hue at all. He brought a competitive atmosphere to the entire offense. Wasn’t scared to bench guys, from Campbell to DHB to Mario Henderson. 3 of Al’s pets.

    It’s about value. Hue was a good and potentially great OC. He is an anknown at HC. He’s never been the head cheese, anywhere at anytime. Cable was the same way, and it took him 20 games to settle him down. Hue made rookie mistakes last year, and will probably make rookie mistakes in 2011.

    I look at Hue as a potentially one step backwards for two steps forward scenario.

  439. Dakota Says:

    434.SilverNBlackPA Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    Dakota,

    My memory is that Davis threw Lombardi under the bus and said something like “That guy’s been fired from every job he’s every had.”

    I could be wrong about that though; Davis may have been referring to someone else.

    +++++++++++++++

    That does sound familiar lol…..there goes that conspiracy theory!

  440. r8eray Says:

    Oakland up next on Rome!

  441. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    hue is smart enough not to have an oc too, so he doesn’t do to him what he did to cable.

  442. Hobs Gnarly Says:

    oh well fck it, nite all.

  443. RaiderWill Says:

    Hobs Gnarly Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    hue is smart enough not to have an oc too, so he doesn’t do to him what he did to cable.

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    Hue will run the offense and will have an offensive consultant. Cable we relived playing calling duties because he kept calling madden09 game plays. Mind you the madden plays were better than the bed and breakfast ranch.

  444. Raider75 Says:

    twitter…

    RaidersBlog Chris Hansen
    I haven’t heard a peep about who Davis is looking at. All is quiet. I know Davis has called Harbaugh.

  445. RaiderWill Says:

    Hey there might be a slight chance of landing Harbaugh. I think the raiders have the best roster out of all the teams looking for a head coach. Maybe that will intrigue him enough to take the job.

  446. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    RaiderWill Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    Hey there might be a slight chance of landing Harbaugh. I think the raiders have the best roster out of all the teams looking for a head coach. Maybe that will intrigue him enough to take the job.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    We have a much better roster tha the whiners.

    Harbaugh, however, has let it out that Michigan offered him $5 million and it wasn’t enough because he wants $7 million.
    The whiners can’t afford that.

    Harbaugh is also asking too much for the Raiders since Al’s offer is somewhere between a nickle and a free ticket to a game.
    Harbaugh may just end up in Miami.

  447. raidertay Says:

    NFL Teams Total Payroll 2010
    1. Raiders – $ 152,389,371
    2. Cowboys – $ 146,401,600
    3. Vikings – $ 133,354,045
    4. Browns – $ 131,916,300

    If I was an owner and I was paying top 5 money, then I would expect a top 5 salary to go along with it. Cable underachived.

  448. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    raidertay Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    NFL Teams Total Payroll 2010
    1. Raiders – $ 152,389,371
    2. Cowboys – $ 146,401,600
    3. Vikings – $ 133,354,045
    4. Browns – $ 131,916,300

    If I was an owner and I was paying top 5 money, then I would expect a top 5 salary to go along with it. Cable underachived.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Al pays top money to the players not the head coaches.
    I think Cable was going to get $2.5 million(a raise) next year.

  449. Cable’s Relationship With Al Davis Led To Dismissal Says Campbell | Sports Journey Says:

    [...] things,” Campbell said on SiriusXM’s “Mad Dog Radio” via Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. “I didn’t really get a chance to see that, because I was always in offensive meetings and I [...]

  450. Cable’s Relationship With Al Davis Led To Dismissal Says Campbell | Sports Journey Broadcast Network | Serious sports talk for the serious fan Says:

    [...] things,” Campbell said on SiriusXM’s “Mad Dog Radio” via Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. “I didn’t really get a chance to see that, because I was always in offensive meetings and I [...]

  451. ohioraider Says:

    # raidertay Says:
    January 5th, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    NFL Teams Total Payroll 2010
    1. Raiders – $ 152,389,371
    2. Cowboys – $ 146,401,600
    3. Vikings – $ 133,354,045
    4. Browns – $ 131,916,300

    If I was an owner and I was paying top 5 money, then I would expect a top 5 salary to go along with it. Cable underachived.
    ———————————————–
    Of course, that’s the convenient excuse of any owner. But you’re implying that Davis has a good track record of assessing talent and paying accordingly. Recent history suggests otherwise.

  452. EARP Says:

    Dakota & RaiderO are 2 very keen fellows, let’s hope draft was a indicator of Al changing for better, next step= Gruden or Harb. Al is either getting good advice or is changing? I think something big is brewing, surprise, surprise= I think this time it’s coming as w/ draft.

  453. turner42 Says:

    John Fox for coach;
    a) He’s a defense first coach, who will fix the d and get them playing top tier D, week in and week out
    b) He runs the ball, and throws deep, which fits Al’s likes, and can keep Hue as O coordinator
    c) He took Carolina to the SB with Jake “pick” Delhomme at qb, so JC would be a huge upgrade.
    I mean Carolina in a SB? He’d be a great pick!

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