The Raiders and free agency
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, January 11th, 2011 at 9:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.
NOTE: Inserted a couple of clarifications with regard to left guard Robert Gallery and strong sidelinebacker Kamerion Wimbley.
Was on a conference call Tuesday with two NFLPA executive council members, Dominique Foxworth and Scott Fujita, both of whom painted a bleak picture of reaching a collective bargaining agreement before the March 3 deadline.
Then spent different portions of the day in Twitter debates regarding my column on Nnamdi Asomugha, one of the most accomplished and professional of Raiders, and a player who in some quarters I apparently have grown to hate.
To review _ Asomugha is a fabulous cover cornerback, but his salary for 2011 ($16.8 million or the average of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL) is way out of line for someone who blankets receivers but whose obvious skills hasn’t done much to remedy the team’s defensive problems. He doesn’t create turnovers, the biggest single stat in NFL. Despite his presence, the Raiders still gave up 29 touchdown passes (only four teams gave up more) and 30-plus points six times.
I could go on, and already have, so never mind. If you think a cover corner should get a salary in the vicinity of Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, so be it.
So let’s look at it another way. If you pay Asomugha that much money in a single season as a straight salary, it’s going to affect the rest of free agency. It will have a huge effect if the new CBA has a salary cap. Then there’s the matter of whether the Raiders have the kind of actual liquid money to compete with the more corporate of the NFL teams considering their attendance, total worth, etc.
We have no idea at this point how free agency will work out, especially in the event of a protracted lockout. If a lockout goes on too long, there could be a reduced free agency this year, or in an extreme case, according to CNN-SI’s Peter King, no free agency at all until 2012. (He wrote that most people don’t expect that to happen, but if games are lost and teams must be thrown together, it’s a consideration).
In any event, here’s a list of Raiders who have played four, five or six years for when the CBA is complete and terms are reached. There are others whose contracts expire, but the Raiders will probably be able to have a right of first refusal. Until the uncapped year last year, having four years meant unrestricted free agency. That increased in 2010 year to six years.
Whether there are franchise or transition tags (and how many) will depend on the CBA. They’ll basically be making up new rules.
6-PLUS YEARS
Richard Seymour: If rules are similar, stands to get a 20 percent bump from nearly $13 million if there’s a franchise tag and he’s tagged again.
Nnamdi Asomugha: The ball’s in his court. Chances are Raiders weren’t going to pay $16.8 or more anyway. How much will they pay?
Robert Gallery: Was extremely loyal to Tom Cable, who helped turn his career around by moving him from left tackle to left guard. UPDATE: Gallery’s deal has reasonable salaries which run through 2014, but he made it clear following the season he was in a free agent year. Assuming those last four years are voidable.
Stanford Routt: If Asomugha were to go elsewhere, Davis could ante up big bucks for Routt after giving him a first- and third-round tender last year.
John Henderson: Missed seven games with a stress fracture but still showed he’s got something to offer as a run-stopper at defensive tackle.
Langston Walker: Much better as a starting right tackle in 2010 than he was in 2006, but will Raiders look for new blood?
Rock Cartwright: Every team needs a guy like this, and he won’t break the bank.
Khalif Barnes: Seemed to relish the team role and playing as backup tackle and power tight end.
Sam Williams: He’ll sign for the minimum and be happy about it.
Michael Bennett: Was strictly McFadden-Bush insurance and policy was never needed.
Kyle Boller: Has a chance at reserve role depending on how quarterback situation sorts out.
Charlie Frye: Went to every practice and meeting while on injured reserve all year. Could be rewarded with No. 3 QB job.
Daniel Loper: Started at left guard when Gallery was hurt then watched for the rest of the year.
J.T. O’Sullivan: Signed once Bruce Gradkowski went out with a shoulder injury.
5 YEARS
Michael Huff: Has five years of service but contract void could make him unrestricted regardless of how CBA is set up.
Bruce Gradkowski: Couldn’t make it through either of the last two years healthy and Jason Campbell played well when he went on IR.
Thomas Howard: Pushed into the background as linebacking corps was swept out. Hard to believe he won’t be looking elsewhere.
Ricky Brown: Has value as a backup middle linebacker and special teams player.
Hiram Eugene: Solid special teams player but passed up by Stevie Brown as a single deep free safety.
Jarvis Moss: May have shown enough as a pass rusher in season finale to get another look at a reasonable price.
UPDATE: The contract of strong side linebacker Kamerion Wimbley runs through 2011, but at a much lower salary than the $2 million and change he made in 2010. That is often an indication of a voidable final year.
4 YEARS
Zach Miller: Only the Raiders most productive receiver over the past four years.
Michael Bush: Yes, he only played three years, but I’m told his PUP year rehabbing his ankle counts.
Samson Satele: I may be in the minority, but it seemed to me Satele played extremely well in the last four or five games of the season. Both on the interior and getting to second level.
Mario Henderson: There is sentiment within the building (including at the very top) that Henderson should have been moved to right tackle early after Jared Veldheer won the job on the left side and started over Walker.
Johnnie Lee Higgins: Seems to have regressed the last two years after a strong second season. If Jacoby Ford takes over punt returns, hard to imagine him being back.
Note: This is the latest information I have and it’s conceivable some of the contracts could have been changed at some point during the season.
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January 11th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
1st
January 11th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Sign Seymour!!
January 11th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Waive chokie Lee and tell him to take Routt with him
January 11th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
lets jump ahead 3 years and talk about re-signing terrell owens!
January 11th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Hello Raider Nation!
January 11th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Thanks for the update, Jerry.
I said it before..I don’t know how they let this many contracts all expire at once. I know there is the uncertainty of the labor situation, but man.
I would like to think Mr. Davis was trying to extend some of these deals during the season. Maybe he was, and was rebuffed. Who knows.
Somebody described it earlier as a mass exodus. It could happen. Especially if there is player discontent over the coaching situation. More than likely they will be able to lock up some of them.
Like many have said before, Davis usually finds a way to keep those players he really wants to keep. Still, the uncertainty is kinda scary.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Preppie,
Do the have talent in Mich, or do they steal it all?!
Go to High St. you will find all kinds of bars there. I haven’t been there in 11-12 years, so I’m unable give you names.
Enjoy your stay in the Great State of Ohio.
OH
IO
Ohio!!!!
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Thanks Mustafa!
January 11th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
satalle played a bit better but still gets handled by bigger linemen….ricky brown has no value..
January 11th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
as a mlb that is…
January 11th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Preppie,
Do the have talent in Mich, or do they steal it all?!
……………….ohio state steals alot of talent from pennsylvania!
January 11th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
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January 11th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Preppie,
High st is also very close to The OSU campus. Enjoy! lol
They have a lot of bars there, but avoid saying your a Mich fan. It’s also very close to Downtown Columbus.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Stanford Routt: If Asomugha were to go elsewhere, Davis could ante up big bucks for Routt after giving him a first- and third-round tender last year.
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Jerry,
think about that for a second. Do you honestly believe Routt builds confidence in anyone as the #1 Corner. Hecckkkkk NOOOOOO!!!!
Also on your CWood vs Nnamdi..
CWood in his prime was actually tested time and again. I can remember vividly he got his rears kicked by TO in SF. I can remember CWood getting burned by KC late in the game in Oakland. Do you ever remember a game where Nnamdi got toasted time and again while healthy or giving up a bomb to lose the game?
January 11th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Sign Seymour, Routt, Bush, & Miller
The rest can be replaced.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Phatcable,
What?! Who did they steal from Penn?
January 11th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
I plan to sample some local OSU talent… then flee Nohio like LeBaron.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Nnamdi can’t be replaced, but I wouldn’t pay him QB money either.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
We need to concentrate on finding a good quarterback and O line.
Sign some good free agents with Aso’s money.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
I guess I’m in the minority with Jerry. I don’t know why everybody is so gung ho to replace Satele at C. The guy was playing good football, and he’s still very young. Just entering his prime.
I was watching NFLN last week( yeah I probably watch too much NFLN) and Mayock was previewing the KC/Balt wild card game. He was showing highlights from the Raiders game week 17, and how KC run D got gashed.
Mayock showed about five clips of Bush runs, and I swear Satele was just manhandling KC’s NT. Opening up gaping holes. And the guy is very mobile and adept at getting out and leading on those sweeps and screens, also.
Raiders didn’t get to #2 rushing attack by accident. Satele was a key contributor.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
For DJ, from previous #697
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/01/11/49ersraiders-update-the-harbaugh-spurning-farewell-nate-davis-talking-mcnabb-and-more/
January 11th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Richard Seymour: If rules are similar, stands to get a 20 percent bump from nearly $13 million if there’s a franchise tag and he’s tagged again.and al davis gets the other franchise tag.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
14.Raider75 Says:
January 11th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Sign Seymour, Routt, Bush, & Miller
The rest can be replaced.
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Yep, the passing D will take a dive without Wimbly and Nnamdi, but the $$$$$$ for Nn is too high. Wimb would be nice though.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
that’s 25 players,(only Moss and Sullivan are post original 53-man roster);
That makes 30 players Raiders have under contract or express rights to;
of those we do have a few key players in key positions:
most important QB- Mr. Jason Campbell
next most important LT- Mr. Jared Vehldeer
3rd most important on offense at least we have two gamebreakers in Mr. Darren McFadden & Mr. Jacoby Ford
others on offense:
our FB in Mr. Marcel Reece
our other WRs and only two Other OL Mr. Carlise & Mr. B. Campbell
on defense we have:
Mr. Houston DE or DT, Mr. Shaughnessy if healthy, Mr. Kelly and Mr. Bryant
Mr. McClain at MLB with back up in Mr. Goethel
SLB Mr. Wimbley
one CB position that is should Mr. Johnson be 100%
Safeties: promising young duo in Mr. Mitchell & Mr. Brown
We only have one starting QB, one RB, two OLs, 2 LBs, 1 CB
other than rookies
January 11th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Satele is not consistent, but he played better at the end of the season.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Kam Wimbley isn’t on Jerry’s list. I was under the impression his deal was up also. Was this an ommission on Jerry’s part or is he still under contract?
That’s another one. Usually when a team trades for somebody, don’t they usually redo/extend their contract. I’d hate to think Al traded a 3rd rd pick for this guy, only to lose him to free agency after one year. Geez.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Great job Jerry.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Phatcable,
What?! Who did they steal from Penn?
Western Pennsylvania high schools are located in prime recruiting territory – minutes from Pitt and close enough to West Virginia, Penn State and Ohio State that all four major programs claim the WPIAL as home turf.
“We always put a lot of time and effort into (recruiting) western Pennsylvania,” Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said. “It’s great football.”
January 11th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
I think we can keep Nnamdi cuz no team is going to offer as much as we will.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
We didn’t extend Seymour’s contract. I know we did with Campbell, but I don’t think we did it with Wimbley. I think Jerry forgot t add him.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Raider Ret,
Great analysis. I think we should be able to get several of the remaining key pieces without much problems, but this Hue Jackson thing could be the watershed event.
January 11th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
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January 11th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Jan 9, 2011 … His contract with the Raiders now voided, Nnamdi Asomugha will be a free agent – - and should be someone the Eagles pursue this offseason
January 11th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Terrell Pryor is from Pennsylvania. Yes Western Penn is a hotbed of HS football, and furtile recruiting grounds.
But, that doesn’t have anything to do with those scumbags from up north stealing Ohio HS football legends like Charles Woodson and Desmond Howard, amongst others. Does it, O?
January 11th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Phatcable,
We have enough talent in The Great State of Ohio, but nothing worng with expanding our recruiting area. lol
Go Bucks!!!
January 11th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
I think Kamerion is a free agent, but I am not sure.
January 11th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
No it doesn’t!
Sir Chales could have made that Bucks team one of the best in history. D Boston on offense and Chales on defense would have been too much to handle.
Damn you Mich!
January 11th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Raider O Says:
January 11th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Phatcable,
We have enough talent in The Great State of Ohio, but nothing worng with expanding our recruiting area. lol
Go Bucks!!!
…………………you guys come into pa.recruit players out of high school by offering them houses cars money.then when you get their whole family moved too ohio ya act like they always lived there.
January 11th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
the only statement by Schefter that I have ever agreed with, “There will 32 teams interested in Nnamdi Asomugha’s services.”
January 11th, 2011 at 10:07 pm
Buckeye,
Eddie George was from Penn too. He is one of my fav bucks.
January 11th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
actually I think you guys are correct, Wimbley has 5 years experience and I do not ever recall Raiders giving him a contract extension, I did forget about Mr. Groves, so we still only have 2 LB not counting this past season’s rookies.
You know who would love this roster and it’s open potential?
January 11th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Bill Parcells
January 11th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Nnamdi Asomugha oringinaly from western pa stolen from their by univeristy of kalifornia then signed by raiders ?
January 11th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
How dare you? The Great OSU doesn’t need to offer anything to it’s players. They consider it an honor to play for The Great OSU!
January 11th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Kids in Ohio (and surrounding areas) don’t dream of being a Brown,Bengal, or Lion, they dream of being a Buck!!!
Go Bucks!!!
Bucks > Penn > Mich
January 11th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
a young man gets a new job at a supermarket, and is met by the owner and handed a broom. “your first job is going to be to sweep the store.” the young man replies proudly, “But i’m a graduate of Ohio State” the owner says, “ooh i’m sorry, i didn’t realize that. here, give me the broom, i’ll show you how.”
January 11th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
mr. davis will find a way to keep and pay the players he wants. I think most players will want to stay together on their offense and defense squads knowing the havoc they can reek next season.
RAIDER NATION BABY!
January 11th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
SD lost their Def coordinator Rivera as he is now the HC for the Panthers
Every AFC West team will be hiring at least one new coordinator or HC
Raiders HC (also at least one coordinator as well)
Chargers DC
Chiefs OC
Broncos entire new staff
January 11th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
no one wants to coach the Broncos, Raiders just might be able to get Tebow for a 3rd round draft choice, if Denver can’t find anyone to coach for them, because no one wants Tebow, they just might choose to unload him.
January 11th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Eagles will role with Kolb, he is there future long term,they realize how old Vick will be, he will be a FA and lead some team to the playoffs next season.
January 11th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
All right PhatCable,
Enough outta you, already. First off no grad of THE Ohio State University would be working in a damn grocery store.
But, if he was.. and the manager made a crack like that…well..he could use that broom for a toilet bowl cleaner..and use it every time he sat down to take a shat.
January 11th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Actually, that excellent HBO Sports documentary that I was telling BSJ about was on again. “The Rivalry: OSU vs. Michigan”. It ends with alums from both schools telling jokes.
Mike Wallace: How do you get an OSU grad off your porch? Pay him for the damn pizza.
My favorite: How do you make Michigan cookies? Put em in a big bowl and beat the hell out of em for 3 hours.
LOL.
January 11th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Goodnight fellas.
January 11th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
Phatcable,
You are confused. The manager is an OSU drop out, and the Broom Monkey is from Penn.
January 11th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Later Buckeye.
Go Bucks!!
Raiders on ESPN2.
January 11th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
# 8RaiderReign8 Says:
January 11th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
I think we can keep Nnamdi cuz no team is going to offer as much as we will.
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My sentiments exactly.
January 11th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
how do you make a OSU graduate car more aerodynamic? take the pizza sign off the roof.
January 11th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
hey I just realized with Rivera going to Carolina that means Mr. Cowher is still available.
January 11th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Nnamdi just might settle for 8-11 million if it meant going to a clear-cut playoff and super bowl contender, especially if it was for 4 yrs, 50-60% guaranteed, his option in the 4th yr
bigger cities would also mean more endorsement contracts
January 11th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
tuck rule replay on espn2….why god why?
January 11th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
bspn likes to stick it to the Raiders
January 11th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
name a coach already….
January 11th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
Control would be the issue for Parcells,
I could see where Bill would tell Al, you choose the first Raiders draft pick, I pick the rest; I could see Al agreeing to that.
Al would sign who he wants as FA, but Bill would have final authority on who makes the 53-man roster.
Bill would want more control of coaching staff though,
money would not be an issue as Bill is getting a full paycheck from Miami, even if he coaches another team.
January 11th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
with Harbaugh going to SF and Rivera to Carolina
Bill Cowher is two step closers to the Oakland Raiders
there are now only 3 HC positions available:
Raiders
Browns
Broncos
January 11th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
ur smoking crack if you think either of those life long east coast Bills is coming to Oaktown. The chances are so infantismal they defy contemplation.
January 11th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
this from SB Nation
“At the same time, Hue Jackson, the current “Captain of Coaches” has been calling assistants around the league who he might want on his staff.”
January 11th, 2011 at 11:43 pm
yea I know Lofty
January 11th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
well alright then…;-)
January 12th, 2011 at 12:11 am
—”I could see where Bill would tell Al, you choose the first Raiders draft pick, I pick the rest; I could see Al agreeing to that.”—
this is how its been done for ages, before the gruden-days and up until now, that how it has been…
Parcells wont join not due to draft issues, but due to every day life issues, same with Cowher… we are lucky if even a washout like Wannstedt wants to join us…
that is actually why Cable was great, not his HC skills, but his manager skills, him able to make his moves on the team in the Davis-waters…
His Al-ness wont have a guy in the locker-room that has more power/respect… ask Gruden, ask Madden, ask Flores, heck yeah ask Cable…
so to think an a-list coach is coming to town, go back to your pipe… when did last have an a-list coach??? Never, if we are lucky, we make them…
January 12th, 2011 at 12:13 am
His Al-ness, is about Co-coordinators or Assistants or HC’c from College… well even assistants from college… not A-list coaches… his Al-ness doesnt fly that way…
January 12th, 2011 at 12:52 am
With cable gone we should give howard another chance,he is still the best weakside linebacker we got and I think he would be good with the line we got now.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:13 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 11th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
with Harbaugh going to SF and Rivera to Carolina
Bill Cowher is two step closers to the Oakland Raiders
there are now only 3 HC positions available:
Raiders
Browns
Broncos
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Cowher coached the Steelers too long to go to Cleveland–I think.
That leaves the Broncos, the Raiders and TV.
The Broncos are a mess but he would have considerable control.
The Raiders have talent but they also have Al Davis and its unlikely Al would hire a coach of that stature.
Besides, it has looked like Hue for a year.
Cable never did seem the same after Hue was hired as OC.
All year he seemed to be a guy walking the last mile and very unsure whether the governor was going to call.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:14 am
I would only resign huff as a corner because I think mike mitchell is ready to play and stevie brown would be a good backup.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:25 am
[...] Gallery has played his entire career in Oakland thus far while becoming “extremely loyal” to former head coach Tom Cable in the process according to Jerry McDonald of the Bay Area News Group. [...]
January 12th, 2011 at 3:20 am
[...] Gallery has played his entire career in Oakland thus far while becoming “extremely loyal” to former head coach Tom Cable in the process according to Jerry McDonald of the Bay Area News Group. [...]
January 12th, 2011 at 3:36 am
tissue?
January 12th, 2011 at 3:37 am
hmmm… “tissue” was my comment to someone last night…
the only word i wrote… and it’s awaiting moderation…
unbelieveable
January 12th, 2011 at 5:22 am
Be nice if we could bring almost all these guys back. Boller, Bennett, O’Sullivan, Moss and JLH being most easily replaced.
Satele was really good this year.
Huff was borderline a Pro Bowler, IMO.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Good Morning Nation!
January 12th, 2011 at 6:06 am
Bringing back Satele is essential, and I would say Carlisle as well for after Bruce Campbell flops.
We need better play from Veldheer. Way too many penalties, he was one of the most penalized O-lineman in all of football.
Can’t wait until the next head coach gets the memo from Al to play Campbell at RG, and Mario at RT, and you better throw the ball down the field to DHB.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:13 am
JFB…then are you saying that we won’t have a coach then? LOL
Good Morning BTW
January 12th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Not that it was even realistic, but we can rule out Gruden…
ESPN’s Jon Gruden has not been approached by Mike Holmgren about the Browns’ head coaching vacancy.
Gruden has a strong relationship with Holmgren, he grew up in the area, and his father remains a big Browns backer. The fit makes sense, but Gruden confirmed during Monday night’s BCS Championship Game that he will return to ESPN for another season of Monday Night Football. He’s getting paid for one more year by the Buccaneers, and his son is entering his senior year in high school as a quarterback. A 2012 return to the coaching ranks seems far more plausible.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:43 am
As much as I would absolutely HATE to see Nam leave us for another team. I say we take that money and make an offer to Peyton Manning that he can’t refuse, dude is almost 35, he ain’t gonna play more than 3-4 more years TOPS…Lets give him Nams Salary plus a million or so, make it 4 years 18 million….He’s gotta at least consider it.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Good Morning GG
I guess I can say that would put an end to all speculation or wishes!
January 12th, 2011 at 6:45 am
I think anyone would consider it but I don’t think that he will leave Indy…but that’s just me!
January 12th, 2011 at 7:00 am
Manning doesn’t play for money, he won’t leave for anything.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:06 am
Good morning all.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Manning doesn’t play for money, he won’t leave for anything.
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I bet he does all them adverts for free…
January 12th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Peter King said that he believes Peyton will get franchised because he won’t accept any type of hometown discount or anything other than top dollar.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:15 am
While I agree with you, that for him its not about the money, Its worth a shot in the dark. If we get rid of ASO and the money that was basically already allocated to him, we need to replace that talent with someone who has an equal or even greater talent to impact our team. You can’t just talent like ASO walk, and do nothing to replace it.
Never doubt the ability of AL to overpay for someone.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:17 am
good morning raider nation!
rotoworld world is reporting gallery is gone too!
wtf??
January 12th, 2011 at 7:17 am
There’s speculation based on uncertainty that with the CBA, they could put a rule in place where all FAs/UFAs become RFAs, so that there isnt a mass league-wide situation where teams have like half their teams taken away from them.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Hear what you’re saying MikieG but Nnamdi HAS walked and is a free agent.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:18 am
You got a link R8eray?
January 12th, 2011 at 7:20 am
but imagine how interesting it could be if they werent able to put that in. It would become like a fantasy draft madden league.
Suddenly this huge reshuffle of players all at different teams.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:22 am
The NFLPA lists Gallery as being signed through 2014, but the final four years on his deal voided. Now 30 years old, Gallery has missed 14 games over the past two seasons due to injury, causing concern that his body is breaking down. He’ll be a risky, if high-upside commodity on the open market.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:23 am
Reading profootballtalk it seems they’re just quoted the free agents that Jerry listed and are trying to make a story.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Now that Ray Sherman is available Hue should have a chat.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Remember, if due to the lockout/CBA, and if they bring in that rumored rule forcing all FAs/UFAs into RFAs, it would mean if say Asomugha ended up being a RFA, and we didnt match offer, we would keep draft pick compensation for him, like a 1st. And if we wanted to match offer, he would stay a Raider.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:28 am
More likely that rule would relate to someone like Gallery tho. Somone who actually normally would’ve still been under contract till 2014 under the previous CBA.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Neil,
Yep, Aso is a free agent, but he hasn’t completely walked just yet, we could still resign him. My point is simply the fact that if he does walk completely and signs with someone else, we MUST replace his talent with another impact level of talent. That money we allocated to him will either go back to him with his resigning, or we give it so someone who handles the ball every play of every game-OR-we give it to someone who has at least the impact level on a game or team that he had..or divide it between two players 8 or 9 mil each that could actually provide a talent upgrade from just one guy..ie. Sign V. Jackson, AND M. Vick or some other combination….That is the ONLY way we are going to make a successful transition from the Void that ASO leaves.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:33 am
MikieG….
Agreed we must have a replacementfor Nnamdi and the money used in other places.
I just can’t see him coming back.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:39 am
I hope that replacement isn’t Antonio Cromartie…….what an ejit.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:41 am
Mornin NATION.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Morning D-Rac.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Off for some Pasta.
Have a great Wednesday everyone.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:59 am
As far as Aso goes… I dont think Al will let him get away…
I would LOVE to keep Bush with DMAC… I seeing Rankin back in the mix, he could easily replace Bennett…. Whatever happened to Echemandu??? The dude was a TEAR in pre-season games!
If Al doesnt bring in a big-name QB, Campbell is serviceable… However, I may be the only one who thinks so, but the Vikes have been hoarding Sage Rosenfels… He’s just rotting away.. May be at least a good back-up or even push JC for starting job…
January 12th, 2011 at 8:06 am
SnB,
BJ Raji is having a great season. You were right.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:09 am
When the RAIDERS fired Cable, did they hand the AFC West to KC for 2011?
January 12th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Mornin O.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Now that Ray Sherman is available Hue should have a chat
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Screw Hue!
thats my motto this offseason …
Sherman can be Rob Ryan’s new OC or “Passing Game Coordinator”
January 12th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Ray Sherman is a local guy.
born in Berkeley, went to Fresno State, grad asst at San Jose State University, coached DB’s at University of California in 1975 (also coached RB’s there in 1981) spent 1991-1993 with the 49ers coaching RB’s & WR’s
been in the NFL since 1988
former OC of the Jets, Steelers & Vikings!
January 12th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Morning Raccoon.
I don’t think so. Due to Cable, we didn’t win in 2010, and GAVE it to KC!
January 12th, 2011 at 8:16 am
If HuJac stays the RAIDERS OC, and we improve in 2011 he will be the next New Hot Head Coach, just like Harbauggg!
January 12th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Al Davis did his job for 2010: he did well in trades, and he had a great draft. After putting a good team together, he expected to win the division.
Look at KC, they were 4-12 last season!
January 12th, 2011 at 8:20 am
114.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Al Davis did his job for 2010: he did well in trades, and he had a great draft. After putting a good team together, he expected to win the division.
Look at KC, they were 4-12 last season!
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Yes, 2010 was a good year for the GM. Mr Davis.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:20 am
the Vikes have been hoarding Sage Rosenfels… He’s just rotting away.. May be at least a good back-up or even push JC for starting job…
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On September 3, 2010, Rosenfels was traded, along with RB Darius Reynaud, to the New York Giants He was Eli Manning’s backup throughout the season and also was the team’s holder for field goals and extra points. His only action at quarterback was in the 4th quarter of a victory at Seattle. (WIKI)
He’s 32 years old, played for 5 different NFL teams and has a TD/INT ratio of 30-29
still an upgrade over Bruce Gradkowski though imo
January 12th, 2011 at 8:23 am
Bringing back Satele is essential, and I would say Carlisle as well for after Bruce Campbell flops.
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LOL!
Jhill, thoughts???
January 12th, 2011 at 8:23 am
It will be harder to win in 2011 because of our FAs situation.
I still think we can win the division, but Al needs:
1- find a way to resign our key FAs.
2- Add a good coaching staff
3- add a few players in FA
4- another good/ great draft.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:27 am
Satele is OK, buy no way Cooper should come back!
Cooper is an overpaid Cable guy! Cut him!
January 12th, 2011 at 8:34 am
But*
January 12th, 2011 at 8:36 am
O,
the part I was pointing out was …
“Keep Carlisle, because BCamp will flop”
Jhill is a big supporter of his and ‘Chris in NY’ even made an argument prior to the draft why we should take him in Round 1!
he’s obviously on Al’s scholarship program along with Heyward-Bey. We’ll see what happens :/
January 12th, 2011 at 8:39 am
RR,
I like Beast Campbell, and I think Cable made a huge mistake by not using him this season.
Campbell will start next season! Print that!
January 12th, 2011 at 8:41 am
—”Jagodzinski, a one-time rising star who served as Green Bay’s offensive coordinator before jumping to Boston College as head coach before being fired under awkward circumstances before joining the Bucs as offensive coordinator before abruptly being fired amid rumors of a draw-it-up-in-the-dirt playbook before landing in the UFL before being fired after only one season on the job, is now unemployed”—
here guys, meet your new HC, he is everything Al wants, bed-n-breakfast kinda playbook, a man with no respect so say hallo to yet another 4-12 Al Davis season…
his Al-ness rules…
January 12th, 2011 at 8:41 am
LOL.
To set the record straight, I am a big fan of whoever the guy behind Cooper Carlisle is. Since that happens to be Bruce Campbell ….
Carlisle can go use his skates at the local roller rink!
January 12th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Campbell should have played OT, but worse case he should have had some snaps at RG. He wasn’t activated most of the time. Same with our 2 young CBs (Ware & McFadden) at the end of the season. Another Cable mistake.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:46 am
interesting to read through the comments here on the roster and FAs, who to sign, who no to sign etc…completely disregarding JerryMc’s opening for this thread “…bleak picture of reaching a collective bargaining agreement…”
remember, billion of dollars in TV contracts are guaranteed money for the owners whether there are games in 2011 or not.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:46 am
To set the record straight, I am a big fan of whoever the guy behind Cooper Carlisle is.
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thank you and many appologies
I was thinking Walker or Loper at RG since Cable and the zbs wont be retained. Thoughts?
January 12th, 2011 at 8:48 am
# Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 8:39 am
RR,
I like Beast Campbell, and I think Cable made a huge mistake by not using him this season.
Campbell will start next season! Print that!
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Other than seeing his combine numbers, just what is that you’ve seen of his skills in blocking that make you say this?
I mean, I want him to be a great steal as much as the rest of us. But I haven’t seen him dominating any 1st string DLs yet. Hell, I haven’t even heard good reports on his progress from the uber optimistic Cable.
So I’m asking what you’ve seen with your eyes and not through Raider colored glasses that will let him translate the raw materials into a quality NFL lineman? And why, other than thinking that Carlisle doesn’t cut it, do you think he should be starting sooner than later? What evidence does anyone have that he’s far enough along in the very steep learning curve for how to play OL at the NFL level, especially considering how little previous experience he has in the lower ranks.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:48 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 8:20 am
the Vikes have been hoarding Sage Rosenfels… He’s just rotting away.. May be at least a good back-up or even push JC for starting job…
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On September 3, 2010, Rosenfels was traded, along with RB Darius Reynaud, to the New York Giants He was Eli Manning’s backup throughout the season and also was the team’s holder for field goals and extra points. His only action at quarterback was in the 4th quarter of a victory at Seattle. (WIKI)
He’s 32 years old, played for 5 different NFL teams and has a TD/INT ratio of 30-29
still an upgrade over Bruce Gradkowski though imo
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Billy Volek, guys!!1 comeon, he is the future star
January 12th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out Gallery.
We didn’t miss a beat when you were out hurt AGAIN this year.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:49 am
LMN,
how do your bosses reconcile that you spend your workdays either fighting against piracy on the high seas or cheering on the Raiders?
January 12th, 2011 at 8:50 am
I’d like to see …
LT – Veldheer
LG – Loper
C – Satele
RG – Walker
RT – Barnes/Campbell
January 12th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Oh yeah — and don’t read this as me being a huge Carlisle supporter or anything — but be careful what you ask for if you want him instantly replaced with any warm, 300+ lb body.
Let us not forget that he played one of the most important run blocking positions for most of the season on a line that lead the second best rushing attack in the NFL. It’s pretty hard to discount his effectiveness there in the the ZBS. And don’t even try to say that he was beign covered for by his neighbors given how half the people here also think that Satele is subpar and the Walker is just OK at RT.
Fact is, Carlisle was a big part of the rushing game. Anyone plugged into replace runs the very real risk of being a dropoff in effectiveness there, even if an improvement in pass blocking.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Yes, 2010 was a good year for the GM. Mr Davis.
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And he’s off to a good start this offseason.
Not extending a HC that went 2-4 after taking over 1st place in the AFC West.
Not paying a CB 16 million a year
Interviewing more than just Hue for the HC job.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Let Hue continue to be OC/Playcaller and I wouldn’t b surprised if gives a raise to Mike Waufle
January 12th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Campbell should have played OT, but worse case he should have had some snaps at RG. He wasn’t activated most of the time. Same with our 2 young CBs (Ware & McFadden) at the end of the season. Another Cable mistake.
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even after losing to the Jags in Week 14, there was an opportunity to make the playoffs, but we would have to win out and we only won 2/3 thanks to a run defense that couldn’t shut down Indy’s 32nd (DEAD LAST) rushing offense
can you really blame Cable for that?
Week 17 was a statement game to save Cable’s job and sweep the division for the first time since the merger. Also to finish at .500 (the first non losing record we’ve had in 8 years!)
If Seabass makes that FG in Arizona or Ford doesn’t fumble that kickoff against JAX we’re in the playoffs hosting Baltimore
January 12th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Carlisle has 9 penalties in 4 years, has only missed one out out 64 games and once went a whole season without a penalty.
Plus he is a great run-blocker, and we had to outbid the Ravens to get him in 2007.
He is not a “Cable guy”, he is a legit starting NFL RG.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:01 am
JFB,
The owner wants to see Bruce Campbell.
Time to move on.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Mario Henderson at RT, lol!!!!
And not sure why Jered gets such a pass in here. Granted he was a rookie, but he got worse as the season went along, wiffed on a block in preseason that lead to a cart-ride for Jason, wiffed on a block that ruined Bruce’s shoulder in the SD game, and lead all NFL LT’s in penalties.
He needs to get better next year, which I do think he will.
But let’s remember how high on the hog we were for Mario after 2008, and he played better than Veldheer did that year, IMO.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:03 am
The owner wants to see Bruce Campbell.
Time to move on.
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I’m not real impressed with Al’s vision of O-lineman.
RB’s and DB’s, Al’s the man.
Gallery, Mo Collins, Stinchcomb, Mario Henderson and now Bruce Campbell.
All colossal disappointments.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Week 17 was a statement game to save Cable’s job
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How do you figure?
That may have been what Cable was thinking, but he was clearly wrong.
I agree with O that Ware, McFadden, and Campbell should have at a minimum been active on Sundays.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I really dislike this kind of statement:
> If Seabass makes that FG in Arizona or Ford doesn’t fumble that kickoff against JAX we’re in the playoffs hosting Baltimore
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Yeah, you can single out a few obvious, end of the game plays. But what about the other 1000 key plays that weren’t made through the course of those games that were potential tide turners?
- If Grads doesn’t underthrow a wide open Murphy …
- If doesn’t get called on PI on that late 3rd quarter 3 and long . . .
- If Seymour makes that tackle on the RB behind the line, instead of letting him make break free for a 1st down to keep a scoring drive alive . . .
- If Campbell throws the ball out of bounds on 2nd and 8 instead of taking a sack and bringing on 3rd and 16 . . .
- If Seabass makes any of the prior 3 missed FG attempts in the game against Arizona . . .
Get it? This is a team game and EVERY play matters. In several of the lost games, the Raiders never should have been in the situations requiring clutch 4th quarter plays.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:08 am
JustFb,
all the Gallerys, Collins,and Stinchcombs were only selected because the Jets traded the No 1 overall to the friggin’ Rams. Al had manuoevred to #2 to select Pace. Whole different history.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:09 am
People say we should have won this game or that game and been 10-6. Well we could have also lost the first Chiefs game easy, as well as the first Chargers game.
We were just as close to 6-10 as we were 10-6, IMO.
We better nail it in the draft and Soup better step up his game for 2011.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:09 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 8:20 am
the Vikes have been hoarding Sage Rosenfels… He’s just rotting away.. May be at least a good back-up or even push JC for starting job…
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On September 3, 2010, Rosenfels was traded, along with RB Darius Reynaud, to the New York Giants He was Eli Manning’s backup throughout the season and also was the team’s holder for field goals and extra points. His only action at quarterback was in the 4th quarter of a victory at Seattle. (WIKI)
He’s 32 years old, played for 5 different NFL teams and has a TD/INT ratio of 30-29
still an upgrade over Bruce Gradkowski though imo
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Rosenfels may or may not be an upgrade over Gradkowski, I’d say probably not. He would be an upgrade over Jason Campbell though, IMO.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:11 am
I agree with O that Ware, McFadden, and Campbell should have at a minimum been active on Sundays
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for what reason?
I’d rather have guys that contribute on special teams than backups who have proven to stink when given the opportunity
remember: Ware & McFadden got significant playing time BEFORE we tried others at corner
Nnamdi & CJ37 even played hurt and still proved to be 80 percent more effective than the rookies
January 12th, 2011 at 9:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 8:36 am
O,
the part I was pointing out was …
“Keep Carlisle, because BCamp will flop”
Jhill is a big supporter of his and ‘Chris in NY’ even made an argument prior to the draft why we should take him in Round 1!
he’s obviously on Al’s scholarship program along with Heyward-Bey. We’ll see what happens :/
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I stand by that. Round of the draft they wound up getting picked in is meaningless. Murphy was a 4th round, DHB was a 1st. Who’s better? Ford was a 4th rounder, McClain was a 1st. Who’s having more of an impact?
And I’m not just going to take Cable’s word for it. The guy did some things I liked in his time here, but he also made some real screwy depth chart decisions. For example:
- Starting Kwame Harris at left tackle for almost an entire season even though the guy was leading the league in both penalties and sacks allowed.
- Starting Justin Fargas over DMC and Bush for two seasons. DMC wasn’t even averaging 10 touches per game and the real reason he broke out in 2011 is because he FINALLY started to get the ball about 20x per game.
So Bruce’s time on the bench doesn’t bother me one bit. With time, I still think he winds up the best o-lineman on the roster.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:17 am
We better nail it in the draft and Soup better step up his game for 2011.
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What about the defense stepping their game up and keeping just half of those 30pt games to under 20?
How about the WRs getting a little better?
You think we can write some blocking clauses in to Miller’s new contract?
January 12th, 2011 at 9:18 am
How do you figure?
That may have been what Cable was thinking, but he was clearly wrong.
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Cable thought he was pretty safe after going 6-0 in the AFC West and 8-8 overall, otherwise he wouldn’t have said “We’re not losers anymore. Make sure you write that” to the media
He was probably shocked at his firing, especially with full support from the locker room. Compare our first win against KC (barely won at home without Asomugha & Miller) to the second win against KC (smashed them at Arrowhead without McFadden & Seymour). Night & Day difference! JCamp didn’t need Jacoby Ford to put on a cape and be a superhero with any of those catches either. This team played for Cable and Davis pulled the plug. Right or wrong, I can see why the players are pissed
January 12th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Ford was a 4th rounder, McClain was a 1st. Who’s having more of an impact?
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I’ll let JFB answer this one
January 12th, 2011 at 9:19 am
JFB,Please tell me who you like this weekend. Come on man. I need the money.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:20 am
You think we can write some blocking clauses in to Miller’s new contract?
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We can, but I doubt he earns them, lol.
Defense was an issue at times, but they also played well at times. Way more turnovers than the year before. 3 defensive TD’s on the year, dropped rushing YPG down 20 yards from 2009.
There is reason for optimism there.
What’s my optimism for Soup? I am confident he will play like he did last year, like he did the last 4 years.
Beat up on the weaker teams, and piss his pants against the Pittsburgh Steelers of the NFL.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:21 am
remember: Ware & McFadden got significant playing time BEFORE we tried others at corner
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I remember Ware getting beat one time against Pitts for a TD and we didn’t see him again for the rest of the season. Instead, we see 5 S playing against the Jags.
McFadden had maybe 2 bad plays, one for a big TD.
I don’t agree with the play calls of leaving the 2 young guys on complete islands with no over the top help.
Regardless, Ware and McFadden showed talent this season for the most part, and needed the seasoning in at least the last game of the season when all was already lost.
Just my opinion mayne.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Miller blocks very well.
Tough to tell about the WRs because Captain Checkdown doesn’t push the ball down the field. With Grads in there, the WRs were more involved.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:22 am
JFB,Please tell me who you like this weekend. Come on man. I need the money.
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As soon as you tell me at least one other handle you have posted under, I got my picks ready for you.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I don’t agree with the play calls of leaving the 2 young guys on complete islands with no over the top help.
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Who knows they may have had help, but unfortunately that help was named Tyvon Branch.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Dude don’t be stingy. Baby needs a new pair of shoes.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Beat up on the weaker teams, and piss his pants against the Pittsburgh Steelers of the NFL.
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the Chiefs & Chargers both finished with a winning record (better than ours) and JCamp pissed all over their defenses
the Steelers Defense under Dick LeBeau has made many QB’s crumble and go crying back home to momma
January 12th, 2011 at 9:25 am
JFB, Guess what game will have the biggest ratings this weekend?
January 12th, 2011 at 9:26 am
I don’t agree with the play calls of leaving the 2 young guys on complete islands with no over the top help.
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me neither!
January 12th, 2011 at 9:27 am
We all know that the fact of the matter is the old man keeps the players that he wants to keep….plain and simple.
You never have to worry about him finding money to sign players. AD inc. will work it out.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:27 am
I don’t agree with the play calling that didn’t work.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:28 am
What’s my optimism for the defense? I hope they don’t play like they did last year, like they did the last 4 years.
Beat up on the weaker teams, and piss their pants against the Pittsburgh Steelers of the NFL.
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January 12th, 2011 at 9:28 am
the Chiefs & Chargers both finished with a winning record (better than ours) and JCamp pissed all over their defenses
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I think we may have rushed for close to 800 yards in those 4 games combined.
I knew he would play well against the Dolts. He played them 3 times in a span of 10 games.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:31 am
I knew he would play well against the Dolts. He played them 3 times in a span of 10 games.
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who was the last Raiders QB to sweep SD?
former MVP of the NFL?
January 12th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Vegas, You are a complete and total PU$$Y.
NE
PIT
SEA
GB
There you go loser. Consider it a gift.
Pay some bills you deadbeat.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:32 am
On the Nnamdi debate:
1) He is the best Corner in the NFL. He could play in any system and shut down whoever he is covering.
2) Corner should not be the highest paying position on a team.
3) IMO the most important positions in order:
QB
DE
LT
DT
CB
January 12th, 2011 at 9:32 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Beat up on the weaker teams, and piss his pants against the Pittsburgh Steelers of the NFL.
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the Chiefs & Chargers both finished with a winning record (better than ours) and JCamp pissed all over their defenses
the Steelers Defense under Dick LeBeau has made many QB’s crumble and go crying back home to momma
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Really those games were more about the defense and rushing attack.
- Cassel was sacked 7 times, threw a pick 6 and another INT deep in their territory which we scored on with a reverse on the next play. That’s 14 of 31 points vs. KC that Campbell had nothing to do with. Campbell was 15 of 25 for 155 yards. Hardly pissing all over them.
- Vs. SD we ran it 52 times for 251 yards. The D was thrashing Rivers all day. Campbell was 10 of 16 for 117 yards.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:36 am
137.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Carlisle has 9 penalties in 4 years, has only missed one out out 64 games and once went a whole season without a penalty.
Plus he is a great run-blocker, and we had to outbid the Ravens to get him in 2007.
He is not a “Cable guy”, he is a legit starting NFL RG.
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No, he WAS a stating RG. Now it is time to move to a back-up roll. I say keep/pay him as a back-up, and re-build the O-line.
As far as the future of the O-line, we only know we have 1 piece out of 5. We must continue to build it.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:38 am
sage rosenfells, wtf? people just talking crazy now…
January 12th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Wondering why none of these coaches are lining up to coach Timmy Tebow?
January 12th, 2011 at 9:40 am
I think Carolina took the Al Davis aproach to this offseason and hired the cheapes HC type they could find. you know Rivera would almost do it for free, he’s been looking for the HC for some 5-6 years now.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:40 am
carlisle legit? for a zbs team at one point, hue is going with a power o though and that makes carlisle a square peg…
January 12th, 2011 at 9:41 am
Let Nnamdi walk. Push Routt out the door. Find some decent Dlinemen. Bring in a DCoord in touch with his inner 21st century. Viola, we’re back in business.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:42 am
The o-line play is def one area that will concern me next year without Cable. Seemed like he got the line to play better than the sum of its parts.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:43 am
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-countdowns/09000d5d81d9fe2d/Top-10-Playoff-runs?module=HP_video
Top 10 playoff runs
January 12th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Even though the Oline does not get much credit, look at the production of both RBs. You could say both RBs are very good, or you could say it doesn’t matter who’s running the ball, the Oline will open some holes….the Pass Protection is another story, though,
January 12th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Macho Man,
WTF are you talking about. Our d-line was great this year. Seymour and Kelly were a Pro Bowler and Pro Bowl alternate. Shaughnessy is a beast. Houston just got better and better as the year went along and could be a future star.
Meanwhile, you want to push the 2 starting CBs out from the No. 2-ranked pass defense in the league. Nnamdi, a perennial Pro Bowler, and Routt who I believe allowed the lowest pct. of completed passes against him in the league this year.
This is your idea to fix it? Replace all those guys? WTF?
I could see where you’re coming from with wanting a more tricky, varied scheme — which at times Marshall brought this year — and thinking Namdi isn’t worth $15 million per though.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Rob The Slob, Gilbride, Fassell???
The same losers huh Old Man Al??
Ugh
January 12th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Man, Mr Davis has not been this Pizzed off and angry in a long time. Dude is LIVID at EVERYONE over not making the playoffs!
January 12th, 2011 at 9:49 am
And I think we could use a speed-rush specialist DE, not necessarily to just generate sacks, but to CONSISTENTLY at least force the opposing QB to step up into the oncoming onslaught of TK and Seymour.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Wondering why none of these coaches are lining up to coach Timmy Tebow?
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you think it’s about Tebow?
LOL!
the defense is AWFUL. Now Dumervil is coming off of I.R. and Champ Bailey is a free agent
not sure if they were the worst in the league this season “stats wise” but a 4-12 W/L record with a dynamic passing offense pretty much tells the story, doesn’t it?
Rick Dennison will probably be the Donks next HC
January 12th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Now that Nnamdi is a free agent, the Raiders will be forced to keep Routt.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I think we could use a speed-rush specialist DE
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meet Wimbley, Scott & Moss
January 12th, 2011 at 9:54 am
the WORST part about losing Nnamdi Asomugha is getting nothing in return …
I think he & Huff are both moving on, but Al Davis will throw a monster contract at Stan Routt
Routt & CJ37 at corner unless McFadden & Ware step it up in camp and steal a starting job from one of the vets
safety = Branch, Mitchell, Brown & Eugene
the new DC will decide who starts where
January 12th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Z,
I didn’t say Campbell will be great, or that he showed enough, but that’s my point. Cabledidnt give him a chance to to anything this season. Cable rather start Veldheer at C, Barnes as a power TE, but not give Campbell a chance.
Campbell needs to get on the field to show what he is capable of.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:55 am
carlisle legit? for a zbs team at one point, hue is going with a power o though and that makes carlisle a square peg…
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The Baltimore Ravens signed him in 2007, and announced that he would be the new starting RG on their website.
Last minute Al came in and beat their offer and we won their services.
To my knowledge, the Ravens do not run a ZBS and seemed fine on having him as a RG.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:56 am
180.The Real D-Rac Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Man, Mr Davis has not been this Pizzed off and angry in a long time. Dude is LIVID at EVERYONE over not making the playoffs!
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Old man needs to get over it and channel his anger in another way, instead of thinking about blowing the team up.
Most of the in house free agents need to be kept…namely Seymour, Gallery, Huff and Satele.
Cartwright was a valuable special teams player and backup and I think they need to keep Moss around as well, to compete for that RDE spot.
Don’t know if Wimbley is a free agent but he needs to be kept also.
Promote Hue Jackson and let him make staff upgrades….especially at the WR coach spot.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Bruce Campbell or Daniel Loper should be the RG next year.
Henderson and Campbell should compete for that RT spot also.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:54 am
the WORST part about losing Nnamdi Asomugha is getting nothing in return …
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Terrible….just terrible if that happens…which it will.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:00 am
D-line, IMO, is the second most important position in football. I beast D-line will beat up any offense, no matter if they got the best O-line in football.
That’s the key for 2011 and beyond. Keep our bad azz D-line intact and beating up on people, and figure a way to get some actual NFL quality production from our QB and WR’s.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Who is going to sign Nnamdi to more $ than Al Davis?
GB just signed the corner opposite C Wood to big $
Jets can sign Cromartie for WAY less coin than Nnamdi.
I can’t see Nnamdi getting Vick’s $ in Philly.
Patriots always cut their good corners once they start asking for more than 2 million a year, lol.
Seriously, who pays Nnamdi other than the Raiders?
January 12th, 2011 at 10:01 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I think we could use a speed-rush specialist DE
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meet Wimbley, Scott & Moss
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Yes, but Scott is coming off injury, Moss hasn’t really shown anything yet and Wimbley is an everydown LB.
Valid point, but I don’t think it would hurt to add a freakishly quick DE in the mid to late rounds of the draft who does nothing but get after the passer 10-15 times a game in key, obvious passing situations and chips in on special teams.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:02 am
I don’t think we need anymore DEs.
Houston: Base End
Matt S: DE
Scott: Pass Rusher
Wimbley: pass Rusher
Moss: pass rusher
Bryant: can play base end.
I think we need to add an OLB, CB, and another big DT.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Chris in NY Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:42 am
The o-line play is def one area that will concern me next year without Cable. Seemed like he got the line to play better than the sum of its parts.
good call, Cable or using more power blocking scheme, or both? We’ll soon find out
January 12th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Who is going to sign Nnamdi to more $ than Al Davis?
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Nnamdi has never CHOSEN to play for the Raiders because of money or anything else
his choice to sign the last 2-year deal was an alternative to being tagged (exclusive) again
assuming Nnamdi is all about the $$$ and doesn’t care about winning puts him on the same boat as Albert Haynesworth, doesn’t it?
going to the highest bidder? I don’t think so
He might take the Randy Moss rout and accept less money to play for New England
January 12th, 2011 at 10:06 am
I want a guy like G Jackson. 6′1-6′3 330+!
January 12th, 2011 at 10:10 am
We can sack the QB, but we still have problems against the run. Seymour & TK are great players, but the do better against the pass than the run. Same with Bryant, and Henderson can’t play a lot of snaps, and he is old.
We need to add a guy like G Jackson to rotate around with our guys, and that will make our DL one of the best in the league. That should also help our LBs & run defense.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:12 am
The Vikings make perfect sense for Nnamdi.
They will have the Favre money freed up, could use a DB having to play the Packers twice a year, and Calvin Johnson, and their coach is a former DB.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:14 am
-If we keep Nnamdi, add another CB, OLB, and big DT to rotate around, we can be a top 5 defense.
-Our offense needs OL help and a vet WR.
-we also need to improve our coaching staff.
Make it happen Al!!!!
January 12th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Al Davis was GM of the year
draft:Mcclain, Houston, Wimbley, Veldheer, B Campbell, Ford, JCampbell, Goethel, Ware, Mcfadden, Brown
FA’s: Henderson, Cartwright, Keeping his guys
Coaches: Hue, retaining Cable
Let’s see what he does this offseason
January 12th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:14 am
-If we keep Nnamdi, add another CB, OLB, and big DT to rotate around, we can be a top 5 defense.
-Our offense needs OL help and a vet WR.
-we also need to improve our coaching staff.
Make it happen Al!!!!
You don’t like Seymour, Kelly and Henderson with Houston playing inside some? Because I doubt we would get a fourth big money DT…
January 12th, 2011 at 10:19 am
We have a RB, TE, avg/ solid vet QB, and we have young & fast WRs. We need to add a vet WR with great hands, and add OL to help our avg QB. A QB can do a lot more with better talent around him especially on the OL.
I believe we can win our division next year.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:21 am
I like Houston, Seymour, and TK, but I want a true NT (like at Jackson) to rotate around. We can draft a guy like that in later RDs.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:24 am
184.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I think we could use a speed-rush specialist DE
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meet Wimbley, Scott & Moss
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Yep
January 12th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Well it looks like the Raiders will have a shot at Michael Floyd in the 2012 draft.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Seymour, TK, and Houston (as a DT) are better against the pass than the run. They are good penetrators, and that’s why we lead the league in sacks. They don’t do well against the run, and that’s (one of the reasons) why we are 29th against the run.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:28 am
I try not to even think about the Nnamdi situation. As I said before, if he signs for any reason other than dollars and cents it wont be in Oakland.
Who thinks New England finds a way to swindle us this year for one of their first round picks?
January 12th, 2011 at 10:28 am
204.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:21 am
I like Houston, Seymour, and TK, but I want a true NT (like at Jackson) to rotate around. We can draft a guy like that in later RDs.
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Like J. Henderson?
If we get another big DT that means JH has to go, cause the roster @ DT is full… assuming we get to keep Seymour. D. Bryant looks like a good cheap back-up DT/DE.
Tommie Hill is pretty good @ getting to the QB also.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:29 am
the only problem with having a DT rotation of Seymour, Kelly, Henderson & Bryant is consistancy
30 plays they could destroy a running play or sack the QB, but those 2 OR 3 running plays or QB scrambles = sustained drives or POINTS!
January 12th, 2011 at 10:31 am
What ever happene3d to Tommy Blake?
January 12th, 2011 at 10:31 am
No more young WRs!!!
We have Murphy & DHB (2 years exp), Ford (rookie last season), and Chaz (who never played a full season, and he is still young and developing).
We need a proven Vet WR with great hands to help JC and the young guys.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:32 am
210.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:29 am
the only problem with having a DT rotation of Seymour, Kelly, Henderson & Bryant is consistancy
30 plays they could destroy a running play or sack the QB, but those 2 OR 3 running plays or QB scrambles = sustained drives or POINTS!
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RR that is scheam, and play calling, not the quality of our D-line studs!
January 12th, 2011 at 10:33 am
30 plays they could destroy a running play or sack the QB, but those 2 OR 3 running plays or QB scrambles = sustained drives or POINTS!
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Cosign. As we researched in season, take away about 12 plays and we are a top 5 run D. Problem is, those 12 plays over 45 yards are the backbreakers! IF we eliminate those we can be a top 3 defense! We need a 20 something year old big nasty to replace Henderson!
January 12th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Raccoon,
JH can’t play more than 20 snaps. We need to draft a DT/ NT (like G Jackson) in later RDs who can play more than 20 snaps to help our run defense.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:34 am
You pay for agressivness and sacks by giving up a play or two against the run.
With the 3-4 you can cover this up a little better, IF you have the right guys, which we dont.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:37 am
You pay for agressivness and sacks by giving up a play or two against the run.
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Really? Pittsburg led the NFL with 48 sacks this year (1 more than us) and average 68 yards allowed and ZERO 100 yard rushers. Biggest play of the year against them was what 23 yards? With the right personal you can be aggressive AND not get burned!
January 12th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Morning peoples!
January 12th, 2011 at 10:39 am
214.bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:33 am
30 plays they could destroy a running play or sack the QB, but those 2 OR 3 running plays or QB scrambles = sustained drives or POINTS!
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Cosign. As we researched in season, take away about 12 plays and we are a top 5 run D. Problem is, those 12 plays over 45 yards are the backbreakers! IF we eliminate those we can be a top 3 defense! We need a 20 something year old big nasty to replace Henderson!
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Poblem is EVERY team wants/needs a 20 somthin big nasty. We could of drafted Cody, or Linval Joseph, or even Cam Thomas.
With TK, and RS even a 20? big nasty would not play moore than 20 snaps per game.
It is better to have a guy that can do both DT/DE well for depth. If roster space was not an issue, then ya go get a big nasty.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:39 am
A lot of it has to do with gap control, but also having the right players. We have 4-5 DTs (if you add Houston), but only one is known for his run stopping ability, but he can only play 20 snaps, and he can’t stay healthy for an entire season.
We need to draft a DT in later RDs.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:40 am
We need a 20 something year old big nasty to replace Henderson!
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John Henderson played pretty well for the vet minimum & depth!
his problems were not being on the field enough due to injuries or not getting after the QB on passing plays, but we knew that when we signed him
replacing Big John does nothing to remedy the big plays given up when Seymour, Kelly & McClain were all on the field
if you guys think that John Marshall is a crappy DC (and will be replaced) and that ROMAC will get better in Year #2 … and those things come true next year, the run defense should be fine with the current DT’s
Right?
January 12th, 2011 at 10:41 am
217.bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:37 am
You pay for agressivness and sacks by giving up a play or two against the run.
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Really? Pittsburg led the NFL with 48 sacks this year (1 more than us) and average 68 yards allowed and ZERO 100 yard rushers. Biggest play of the year against them was what 23 yards? With the right personal you can be aggressive AND not get burned!
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Correction 24, with the right personal and SCHEAM it can be done.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:43 am
I’d rather get a couple clutch passing TE’s to run in the double TE formation than a vet WR. (Support resigning of Miller)
i.e.: Bo Scaife, Kevin Boss or Marcedis Lewis.
I like what the Patriots have done in their double TE formation. A great formation to run against a 3-4 defense. I think having another clutch TE would really help Campbell (Capt. Checkdown) and our running game.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Pittsburg led the NFL with 48 sacks this year (1 more than us) and average 68 yards allowed and ZERO 100 yard rushers. Biggest play of the year against them was what 23 yards? With the right personal you can be aggressive AND not get burned!
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BCZ,
and you dont think my guy Keith Butler would make a better HC than Hue Jackson?
leaving Hue to run the “much improved” offense?
January 12th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Seymour & TK can’t take every snap, and what happens if they get injured? We need a DT that can stop the run. He can have 30 snaps a game, and that still leaves TK, Seymour, and Bryant a lot of snaps. We play 4-3, so we have 2 DTs on the field.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Who in here thinks MM, finally deserves his shot as our starting strong safety? (I do). Branch really struggled in coverage this season and could easily be our weakest link on the D this year.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:45 am
If we wanted to be a top D like Pitt, we would have to replace the guys that we have that grade out around 85-90 with guys that grade out around 93-97.
Not easy to do, and not very cheap.
Pitt has CB that support the run well. We do NOT.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:46 am
225.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Seymour & TK can’t take every snap, and what happens if they get injured? We need a DT that can stop the run. He can have 30 snaps a game, and that still leaves TK, Seymour, and Bryant a lot of snaps. We play 4-3, so we have 2 DTs on the field.
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Ok O, who you gonna cut to make room for this guy?
January 12th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Good afternoon fellas.
Finally get to chat with the mornin crew.
I think the Raiders runD was much improved, even if their ranking doesn’t reflect it.
They throttled the Chefs #1 running game, not once but twice. I bet they were amongst the league leaders in tackles for losses.
They still have the tendency to give up the long run seemingly once per game.
I can only think of two games where the opponent owned the LOS and was able to run at will on Oakland. The first was Houston. They just gashed em. Foster came in after halftime and ran wild. His backup was working them over in the first half as well.
The other one was kinda surprising. It was the 32nd ranked Colts. They ran at will. Didn’t matter the RB either. Domonic Rhodes for gawds sake. Six or seven yards a pop. Raiders seemed helpless to stop it.
Other than that they were farly stout vs run. Just gave up seemingly one long gain a game. CJ2K, Frank Gore busted a long one late. That Jax backup with the game changer.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:48 am
226.DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Who in here thinks MM, finally deserves his shot as our starting strong safety? (I do). Branch really struggled in coverage this season and could easily be our weakest link on the D this year.
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Yeah I’d like to see him start if he has earned it. Branch has shown he can be a very good SS, if MM is better then yep go for it.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Pitt has CB that support the run well. We do NOT.
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Its pretty tough for our corners to be aggressive against the run when we play man2man the majority of our snaps. Our DB’s back is against the QB. Thats why mobile QB always kill us w/ their runs.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:51 am
All the speculation is kinda absurd….
1. nnamdi is the Best Corner in the NFL
2. Plp act like he didnt get those Int’s/ fumble recovers on purpose. Or that he asked to be injuried and roll his ankle and miss 2 games this yr.
3. Going into wk 16, Nnamdi was planning on being a raider the following year and just cause he didnt meet the Likely incentives, doesnt mean that changes.
4. Nobody will out bid AL Davis for a player he wants, nobody!!!!
January 12th, 2011 at 10:52 am
I think having another clutch TE would really help Campbell (Capt. Checkdown) and our running game.
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Campbell would love the idea of having another guy running 4 yard patterns.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:52 am
When you run a penetrating D and man up CB/FS and the ball gets past the first line, you risk giving up big plays in the run game.
If you get OLB’s that play the run really well, they most often can’t rush the passer real well.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I think having another clutch TE would really help Campbell (Capt. Checkdown) and our running game.
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Fk it! Let’s bring back Doug Jolley.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:53 am
231.DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Pitt has CB that support the run well. We do NOT.
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Its pretty tough for our corners to be aggressive against the run when we play man2man the majority of our snaps. Our DB’s back is against the QB. Thats why mobile QB always kill us w/ their runs.
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That is my point. Our run D issue is not personal it is scheam and play calling.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:54 am
235.DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I think having another clutch TE would really help Campbell (Capt. Checkdown) and our running game.
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Fk it! Let’s bring back Doug Jolley.
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He!! yeah, Jolley and Miller would be awesome!
January 12th, 2011 at 10:54 am
We tried through five games to run a zone so our corners and safeties could aid in run support, it didnt improve the run d at all and hurt our pass d. Or secondary just doesnt run a zone well.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Seymour & TK can’t take every snap, and what happens if they get injured? We need a DT that can stop the run
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last 2 games we played without Seymour were Indy & KC, right?
against Indy, Henderson had 11 tackles but McClain was tackling Rhodes & Co. 9 yards beyond the line of scrimmage (please dont try to say that our fat blob nose tackle was chasing RB’s 5-15 yards down the field for some of those stops, because that clearly didn’t happen)
against KC, he had 1 tackle and a pass defensed… but the Chiefs only had 28 runs to 36 pass attempts and McClain had 8 stops
January 12th, 2011 at 10:55 am
I don’t agree with that Alex fella on a whole lot, but he does have a point about the Raiders playing so much man to man defense that the runD suffers.
Nobody is looking at the LOS. The secondary and even the LB’s are locked up in man coverage, chasing somebody all over the field.
Once or twice a game, the RB will find the crease in that imposing Raider front four, and they’re off to the races. They’re often 15-20 yds downfield before the safeties know what the hell is going on.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:55 am
It all starts at practice.^^^^^^^^^^
January 12th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Roy Schuening may be playing RG next year ahead of B. Campbell, IF BC don’t put in the offseason effort needed to get better.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:56 am
It all starts at practice^^^^^^^^^^^
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January 12th, 2011 at 10:56 am
and you dont think my guy Keith Butler would make a better HC than Hue Jackson?
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Is he the LB coach at Pitt?
I think we should definitely give him the opportunity to run the D if he wants it. Hue should be the HC, and focus on the O.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Practice… are we talkin bout … PRACTICE?
January 12th, 2011 at 10:57 am
yes sir
January 12th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Usually DB’s like playing zone more, it allows for more opportunities to make INT’s and such.
I just think the Raiders don’t know how to teach, hence guys blowing huge coverages and looking at each other like “WTF” afterwards.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:59 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Usually DB’s like playing zone more, it allows for more opportunities to make INT’s and such.
I just think the Raiders don’t know how to teach, hence guys blowing huge coverages and looking at each other like “WTF” afterwards.
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Branch. Huff. Routt.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:59 am
secondary just doesnt run a zone well
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3/4 of the starters are free agents
time to clean house and switch schemes?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:00 am
HC – Hue
OC – McDaniels
DC – Manusky
January 12th, 2011 at 11:00 am
DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:56 am
It all starts at practice^^^^^^^^^^^
238
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Yeah but Marshall started that zone (I cant even tell you if it was a cover 2-3-4 we were so bad at it) in training camp. Remember that we have been drafting bump and run corners and safeties since the freakin 70’s, so there isnt really a good zone guy on our roster.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Raccoon,
We have a lot of players we can cut. We have 5 Ss, 9-10 LBs, 4 RBs, so I’m sure we can find ONE roster spot for my Grady Jackson type player! lol
January 12th, 2011 at 11:01 am
247.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Usually DB’s like playing zone more, it allows for more opportunities to make INT’s and such.
I just think the Raiders don’t know how to teach, hence guys blowing huge coverages and looking at each other like “WTF” afterwards.
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Who specificly do you mean when you say “the Raiders don’t know how to teach”? Al Davis?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Maybe that’s a trade off the Raiders are willing to make, though. Giving up the occasional long game in order to play some suffocating pass defense.
The Raiders did end up with the #2 ranked pass defense in the league despite running a gauntlet of some of the best QB’s in the league.
Manning, Rivers 2X, Orton, Schaub.Cassell, Bradford……Tebow.JK.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:03 am
249.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:59 am
secondary just doesnt run a zone well
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3/4 of the starters are free agents
time to clean house and switch schemes?
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Ha ha ha NEVER GOOONNAAAA HAPPEN, til Al is gone.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:04 am
254.buckeyeraider Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Maybe that’s a trade off the Raiders are willing to make, though. Giving up the occasional long game in order to play some suffocating pass defense.
The Raiders did end up with the #2 ranked pass defense in the league despite running a gauntlet of some of the best QB’s in the league.
Manning, Rivers 2X, Orton, Schaub.Cassell, Bradford……Tebow.JK.
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Ding, ding, ding…
January 12th, 2011 at 11:04 am
What good is a great pass defense when a team can run a QB draw for 43 yards on 3rd and 19
January 12th, 2011 at 11:06 am
When did Moss take less $ to play for the Pats?
When has ANY FA taken less $ to play for a winner?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:06 am
OOOOOOOhhhhhh
nasty
January 12th, 2011 at 11:07 am
252.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Raccoon,
We have a lot of players we can cut. We have 5 Ss, 9-10 LBs, 4 RBs, so I’m sure we can find ONE roster spot for my Grady Jackson type player! lol
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Brother O, don’t do me like that. WHO you gonna cut on the D-line. The roster is the roster. We carry 3 dt’s and a guy that can play dt/de. So you got 3 spots to fill for true inside DT’s.
Who ya gonna cut?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:07 am
According to CSN Philly’s Reuben Frank, free agent Nnamdi Asomugha is “at the top of the Eagles’ offseason priority list.”
Frank is a very reliable beat writer, but he appears to be deducing here rather than reporting. Asomugha is adamant about playing for a contender, and the Eagles have a major need opposite Asante Samuel as well as money to spend on a top tier recruit. As far as fits go, Asomugha would be an instant secondary fix for a team that is expected to contend for the Super Bowl next year.
Source: CSN Philly
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Nnamdi will be in Philly or NY.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Nnamdi is no question the #1 free agent available this year. His agent will get at least feelers from EVERY team in the NFL. No doubt about it.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:10 am
257.bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 11:04 am
What good is a great pass defense when a team can run a QB draw for 43 yards on 3rd and 19
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I’d give up the “chance” of 1-2 plays like that a game instead of another 10 passes for 125 yards.
QB draw for 43 yards on 3rd and 19 aint gonna happen every game. Passes will.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Damn!
LMAO
Tebow fk’n gashed us!
January 12th, 2011 at 11:11 am
262.bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Nnamdi is no question the #1 free agent available this year. His agent will get at least feelers from EVERY team in the NFL. No doubt about it.
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Yep.
How would yall felt if Al tradded Nnam last year?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:12 am
“Practice”……..
The Associated Press reports that Allen Iverson is headed for an MRI after injuring his ankle playing for his Turkish team.
Just in case you were under the mistaken impression that Iverson’s career was thriving overseas. The MRI is scheduled for Thursday, at which point his immediate outlook should become more clear.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:16 am
How would yall felt if Al tradded Nnam last year?
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Disgusted… but better than letting him walk for free.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:17 am
I agree.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:23 am
Look for Houston to make a big play for Nnamdi.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:25 am
I see all the Al kissers are blogging for free tickets. Al did a horrible job, we did not make the playoffs for the 8th straight year. I don’t want to hear that was somebody else’s fault, he is the only one who’s been around for all the losing seasons. Bucks stops with the owner and GM, fire him because he sucks
January 12th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Look for Houston to make a big play for Nnamdi.
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Yup, and of course we play them at Reliant next year too… Nnamdi would be mostly useless against us though LOL Just put DHB on his side, we wont even realize we ignored him.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Nnamdi will go to a contending team. Houston hasn’t made the playoffs since…………Can’t remember.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:27 am
DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Nnamdi will go to a contending team. Houston hasn’t made the playoffs since…………Can’t remember.
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Since they were the Oilers.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:30 am
I thought the Ten. Titans were the Oilers.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Money is hard to turn down. Texans have it.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:32 am
oilers/titans
January 12th, 2011 at 11:33 am
I think Nnamdi has already cashed in and will end up in Philly or NY.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:33 am
when you look at the texans, they have the talent….nnamdi could be looked at as the piece that makes it all work.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:34 am
While the Raiders did have that lofty #2 ranking, they did give up too many TD’s. 29 I believe Jerry said. Too many.
As many in here have mentioned, Marshall did try to mix in some zone, and the Raiders usually looked lost trying to play it. They seemed to blow some coverages and turn some WR’s wide open for easy scores.
Teams also seemed to isolate Tyvon Branch and exploit him for way too many TD passes. He really seemed to regress and struggle in coverage. He was seemingly a star on the rise the season before.
The one guy who did not give up a score. #21. Beaten for one TD pass the last 3 seasons combined, Pretty damn impressive.
Raiders need to find a way to keep Nnamdi in Silver and Black. Just not at 16 mil per.
Way too many other FA’s to take care of, for that kinda $. Quite the dilemma.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:35 am
I thought the Ten. Titans were the Oilers.
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They were. But you didnt say the Texans, you said Houston. Houston hasnt seen a playoff game since the Oilers. Texans have NEVER seen a playoff game that wasnt on their TV
January 12th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Gotcha. Your right.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:37 am
looks pretty bleak if you ask me for our gm, he will have to pull a rabbit out of his hat, he has his work cut out for him. i hope he has the energy to keep up with all this, what is he 82?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:41 am
my favorite youtube clips…iverson cross over on jordan…iverson stepping over lue from
lakers after sinking a three on him….
January 12th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Wouldn’t we get a comp pick if Aso walked (think it would be the big 3rd rounder)?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:42 am
# DutchRaider77 Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Wouldn’t we get a comp pick if Aso walked (think it would be the big 3rd rounder)?
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This year?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:43 am
here are the players al resigns.
routt, s.williams, cartright, frye, loper, r. brown, eugene, moss, satale, henderson. not exactly guys being highly pursued but great talents for al.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:43 am
The compensatory pick would be in the draft following his departure, so 2012.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:46 am
how many db’s will he take in the draft? 3-4?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Last year, we drafted a booksmart MLB, and oversized DE, a LT and a RG in 4 of our first 5 picks.
Sounds like a Tommy Cable draft to me.
This year, with Hue putting in his input along with Al, we will draft two WR’s, a DB, a S, and two undersized OLB’s.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:53 am
A little respite from the doom and gloom;
Todd Haley is considering calling the plays for the Chiefs next year.
Elway is not sold on Tebow, and nobody seems to want to work for old Horeseface as a head coach.
San Diego just lost Ron Rivera, Darren Sproles could be a free agent, and Norv Turner is still the head coach there.
Just trying to lighten the mood a little
January 12th, 2011 at 11:53 am
This year, with Hue putting in his input along with Al, we will draft two WR’s, a DB, a S, and two undersized OLB’s.
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I think Hue continues converting our OLine to his power blocking scheme and gets rid of Satele and Walker at least.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:54 am
LOL! A Cable draft!
January 12th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I’m still waiting on an example of a FA, any FA turning down Al’s money.
More to the point, an in house FA that Al WANTED to sign that left?
January 12th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Todd Haley is considering calling the plays for the Chiefs next year.
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They are gonna go from 4-12 to 10-6 and back to 4-12. I love it. Haley sucks, next year will be his final as an NFL HC
January 12th, 2011 at 11:57 am
# edward teach Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 11:53 am
A little respite from the doom and gloom;
Todd Haley is considering calling the plays for the Chiefs next year.
Elway is not sold on Tebow, and nobody seems to want to work for old Horeseface as a head coach.
San Diego just lost Ron Rivera, Darren Sproles could be a free agent, and Norv Turner is still the head coach there.
Just trying to lighten the mood a little
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Yeah.
KC are pretenders.
San D-eggo isn’t the same team of the past and are on the decline.
Donkies just plain suck.
Raiders were the up and commers, but we’ll have to wait and see what Al comes up w/.
January 12th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Jets just put Damien Woody on IR… that isnt gonna help their chances against NE this week.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Raiders were the up and commers, but we’ll have to wait and see what Al comes up w/.
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We really are teetering on a fine point right now. If Al gets it right we could be on our way to being the bully Hue said we were earlier this season… If he gets it wrong, could be another 7 year slide through misery and irrelevence. Anyone care to place wagers which way this works out.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
293.J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I’m still waiting on an example of a FA, any FA turning down Al’s money.
More to the point, an in house FA that Al WANTED to sign that left?
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Sir Charles Woodson
January 12th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
How can you credit the HC for one good draft, and blame the Owner for the bad ones?!
Wasn’t Cable the HC when we drafted DHB and MM in the 1st 2 RDs!!!
Stop giving the Fat Nonkey credit for last draft! That’s crazy!!!
January 12th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Sir Charles Woodson
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I dont think we tried that hard to retain him. With all the games he missed the last 2 years due to injury and his general distaste of being franchised.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Raccoon,
I don’t want to cut anyone, I also don’t see the logic behind it when we have other roster spots, but since I like you I would say:
If I had to cut someone from the DL (I rather no do that), then I would cut Henderson or Bryant. I still don’t think we should cut any DL to be able to add another DT.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
I would cut Bryant, who is a marginal pass rusher, and really just depth on the line anyways in order to add a proven run stopper that can play 30+ snaps a game if needed.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Can’t remember when Al went 3 trenchmen in the first five picks of a draft, coupled with a MLB without blazing speed.
You would think that if that was all Al’s doing, he would have sent Herrera out there to gloat draft weekend instead of Cable and his hawaiin shirts doing every interview.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
# Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Raccoon,
I don’t want to cut anyone, I also don’t see the logic behind it when we have other roster spots, but since I like you I would say:
If I had to cut someone from the DL (I rather no do that), then I would cut Henderson or Bryant. I still don’t think we should cut any DL to be able to add another DT.
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Hey O,
You would cut Hendu or Bryant over Moss?
January 12th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
300.bcz24 Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Sir Charles Woodson
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I dont think we tried that hard to retain him. With all the games he missed the last 2 years due to injury and his general distaste of being franchised.
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You are not serious are you?
January 12th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
# The Real D-Rac Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:43 am
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-countdowns/09000d5d81d9fe2d/Top-10-Playoff-runs?module=HP_video
Top 10 playoff runs
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Yeah! Two Raider highlights in the Top 10!
January 12th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
301.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Raccoon,
I don’t want to cut anyone, I also don’t see the logic behind it when we have other roster spots, but since I like you I would say:
If I had to cut someone from the DL (I rather no do that), then I would cut Henderson or Bryant. I still don’t think we should cut any DL to be able to add another DT.
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I luv u too man…
Ya the cut’s gotta be JH. ya can’t cut DB unless you replace him with another dtde guy. If we can find that big nasty, then trade JH, and sign dude up.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
Jhill,
Moss had two years remaining on his current deal and was scheduled to earn $9.75 million in 2007 and $11.25 million in 2008. Once the Patriots had Moss on their roster, he quickly agreed to a new one year contract to replace his old one. The new deal gave him a $500,000 signing bonus, a base salary of $2.5 million, and the ability to earn an additional $1.75 million in incentives.
“I’m still in awe that I’m a part of this organization,” Moss said, clearly thrilled to join a team that could contend for the Super Bowl and to work with Coach Belichick. “I think that he’s the kind of coach that can motivate me. He has a proven track record.” (WIKI)
January 12th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
At the 1986 NFL Combine, Bo ran a 4.12 in the 40-yard dash, the fastest time ever recorded at the event. This led the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to select him with the first pick overall of the 1986 NFL Draft.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Wow, didn’t know that Bo ran that fast. Always thought he was a shifty, powerful back.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
DMAC,
I would cut/ not resign Henderson because he can’t play a lot of snaps. In case of an njuty, Moss can be more valuable and he is younger.
Again ( I blame Raccoon for all this), but I wouldn’t cut anyone from the DL to add another DT. I would cut 1/5 Ss or 1/10 LBs we have.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
mcglockton
January 12th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Bo was a freak and he was that fast for being that strong. I believe it was what they called country strong here in the South. Nature caught up with him though. His muscles were too strong for his bones. What a shame. Best Raider RB I ever watched play.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
I hear Bo and Prime were the only 2 players to ever run a sub 4.2 40.
Crazy speed!!!
January 12th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
“Woodson has stated that at the time of the contract he “did not want to come to Green Bay” due to a perception that the city is less than cosmopolitan, but was forced to do so because the Packers were the only team to offer him a contract.”
I honestly didnt pay attention to the offseason then like I do now, but I just dont think, after the string of injuries and his obvious distaste at being franchised twice that Al did everything he could to keep him, like he has with other free agents (Tim Brown sticking out in my mind the most). He didnt counter offer, at least not publicly, the contract GB gave Woodson.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
BCZ,
Hue’s guys Gradkowski & Heyward-Bey sure bullied teams around, didn’t they?
January 12th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
The Real D-Rac Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
At the 1986 NFL Combine, Bo ran a 4.12 in the 40-yard dash, the fastest time ever recorded at the event. This led the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to select him with the first pick overall of the 1986 NFL Draft.
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Wasnt Bo the last guy to ever refuse to play for the team that drafted him and reenter the draft the following season?
January 12th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Sir Charles Woodson
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Actually, we said NO THANKS to C Wood and his agents after they F’d us and signed that franchis tag offer. I don’t recall us making any attempts to deal with the Polston bros after that.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
He also ran a 40-yard dash in a blistering 4.08 seconds (hand-timed), which is still the fastest verifiable 40-yard dash time ever recorded at any NFL Combine.
Wow. Imagine if he could have stayed healthy…
January 12th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Jhill,
care to add some flavor to your prior Randy Moss comments?
January 12th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
chester mcglockton spurned us signed with chiefs, i think grady jackson and l’roi glover as well, maybe the lb who went to jets a couple years ago scott?
January 12th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
From Bruce’s twitter:
Headin into the facility now gonna throw a little bit! Feels good to be bk
about 2 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Wow it feels good to sling that rock around! Feelin great!!
11 minutes ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
January 12th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
McGlocton was the all time fkcface for me. he’d tell the Chiefs to take it easy on him during the game cuz he gonna sign with them. And he did. Dont know why AD would let this cancer into the facility again.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Once the Patriots had Moss on their roster, he quickly agreed to a new one year contract to replace his old one. The new deal gave him a $500,000 signing bonus, a base salary of $2.5 million, and the ability to earn an additional $1.75 million in incentives.
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We traded Moss for a 4th rd pick.
NO ONE wanted him.
He took a pay cut to avoid getting cut.
I’m looking for an example of a FA taking less money to go to another team.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
didnt we cut Laroi Glover? One of the worst move ever.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Don’t start that garbageKowski crap again. Keep Frye and draft/ sign another QB.
Bruce is weak arm QB that can’t stay healthy. He is useless!
January 12th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Bruce sure seems confident he’s gonna be back with the Raiders.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
321.Hobs Gnarly Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
chester mcglockton spurned us signed with chiefs, i think grady jackson and l’roi glover as well, maybe the lb who went to jets a couple years ago scott?
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2 points you missed …
That Al wanted to keep, and signed for less $.
Are you telling me those 2 things apply to those guys you listed?
January 12th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
I wonder if Bruce gets to the facility (without any type of contract???)early enough before Al wakes up and sends Herrera out to tell him to scram.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Why wouldn’t some of you want to bring Gardowski back?
January 12th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
jhill i am saying it’s a myth that al has never lost someone he wanted to keep.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
let’s tell it how it is about davis. he stole the team, made it into a winner and now has crashed and burned it. yep he’s done it all, no denying that fact. now he’s nothing but a has been hanging on too long.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
So then it shouldn’t be too hard to list a few of them Hobs.
I’m not saying he’s NEVER lost a player he’s wanted to keep, but if we can’t think of one off hand then this Nnamdi’s gone argument seems a little far fetched to me. Especially can’t think of any examples since the salaries have jumped into the millions.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
# J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I’m still waiting on an example of a FA, any FA turning down Al’s money.
More to the point, an in house FA that Al WANTED to sign that left?
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Napoleon Kaufman
January 12th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Hobs Gnarly Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
let’s tell it how it is about davis.
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Ok now I see why you say we end up on the opposite side, lol.
Frankly this is stuff you just can’t do anything about.
Did you like the GMs last draft?
January 12th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Good one DMAC.
GOD beat Al.
What can I say.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Rev. Napoleon
January 12th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Yeah, you make a valid point Jhill, except, I very highly doubt money is going to be the determining factor in where Nnamdi ends up. The guy will turn 30 before training camp, and the sands of time are not kind to NFL players.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Not sure he was a FA though.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Al Davis has made plenty of mistakes
DHB
Mike Mitchell
Gruden
Sarkisian/Kiffin
Cable
D Hall
Sapp
And that’s just off the top of my head.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Gibril Wilson
January 12th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Larry Brown
January 12th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Ran across this article. What do you guys think?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/420037-oakland-raiders-history-jersey-numbers-that-should-be-retired-offense#page/2
Offense Numbers that Should be retired:
3, 12, 16, 21, 25, 30, 32, 63, 78, 81, 87, 00
Def
22, 24, 32, 43, 53, 60, 72, 75, 77, 83,
We’d run out of numbers for new players.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Mike Mitchell in his 2nd year is way ahead of Nnamdi and Huff in terms of contribution as compared to those guys in their 2nd year. C’mon man.
January 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I like that we dont retire numbers, although for all intents and purposes is 00 retired, has anyone but Otto ever worn that?
January 12th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Hall and Shavonn gotta be the worst FA’s Al ever paid for imo.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
since I dont like wearing last names on the jerseys, not retiring numbers work perfect for me. I got enough numbers to customize a 44 Marv Hubbard but was never around to see him play. Read up on him last nite and he was a bad a$$ at 4.82 ypc. Wow.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
BCZ,
Nnamdi should be smart enough to realize the AFC West is his ticket to the playoffs.
MAYBE joining McNabb and Harbaugh in SF might be an easier route.
Other than that, I can’t see a playoff team out there that will give Nnamdi the $ his agent Tom Condon would sign off on him accepting.
Just don’t see it.
Maybe Philly gives Nnamdi Vick’s $.
Maybe Indy cuts Bob Sanders and one of their DEs and signs Nnamdi?
Salary Cap mayne, Salary Cap!
January 12th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Did you like the GMs last draft?
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Did a great job listening to his coaches
January 12th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
I know he was a Charger but kinda liking Chromartie right now.
!@#$ Tom Brady indeed…
January 12th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
345. If they retired Raider #s there wouldn’t be any for current players to wear.
Thats not an exageration either.
The League made an exception for Otto and no one else has or will wear the famous double O
January 12th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
jhill why do you continue to defend him, you know there is no proof at least that we will know, who drafted every player, why even bring it up. al has stated he let coaches draft people himself so to say he does it all is disengenuious.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
344.aig-raiders Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Mike Mitchell in his 2nd year is way ahead of Nnamdi and Huff in terms of contribution as compared to those guys in their 2nd year. C’mon man.
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He’s relegated to the big nickle pakage. The fact that he can’t beat out the worst SS in the league is a problem.
At this point, all things considered, I think we could’ve gone in a different direction with that pick. Stevie Brown and Huff should be our starting Safeties, right?
January 12th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
al davis needs to retire.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Hobs,
How am I defending him, by saying how bad a draft pick Mike Mitchell was?
January 12th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
We traded Moss for a 4th rd pick.
NO ONE wanted him.
He took a pay cut to avoid getting cut.
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J,
you seriously think the Pats would trade a 4th rounder for somebody and then promptly CUT him?
thats a straight up RAIDER move bro!
Moss didn’t have to take a pay cut. He could have got better money on the market as a FA or perhaps in Green Bay with Brett Favre lobbying for him
Moss was doing a lot of boot licking and he’s not usually that type of guy. Speaks his mind like Warren Sapp
January 12th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
But since we ALL know he’s not going to retire ….
January 12th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
the Big Nickel was involved in many snaps for the Raiders this year and actually was successful against San Diego.
And what has Stevie Brown done for you to state that he’s the starter. Other than his preseason plays, can you tell me exactly where in the reg season he has contributed? I look forward to your reply. Please back it up with some type of proof though alright. We’ve already proven that you have a history of recalling plays that never happened.
The coaches loved Branch. Nothing Mike can do to supplant him. If Stevie was so good, why didnt he replace Branch according to your logic?
January 12th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
w/o a CBA players will not be required to abide by any rules the owners implement, remember the U.S. Federal Courts ruled in favor of the players on free agency.
It has been the law since the 80/90’s, that is the main reason Mr. Marcus Allen went and played for Kansas City, he was one of the first half dozen or so to file suit for his free agency.
without a collective bargaining agreement, all players NOT UNDER contract are free agents even if they only were signed and played for one week, let alone 4-6 years.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
you seriously think the Pats would trade a 4th rounder for somebody and then promptly CUT him?
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You’re probably right about that. The the new contract had to be agreed to prior to the trade.
Are you telling me he was under contract to the Patriots for 2 years 20 million, and just strolled into Belechick’s office and said I’ll play for 3 million this year, and we’ll talk again in the offseason?
ANd besides mayne, the question was a FREE AGENT going to another team for less money.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Cromartie would be a decent replacement for Nnamdi.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
w/o a CBA players will not be required to abide by any rules the owners implement, remember the U.S. Federal Courts ruled in favor of the players on free agency.
It has been the law since the 80/90’s, that is the main reason Mr. Marcus Allen went and played for Kansas City, he was one of the first half dozen or so to file suit for his free agency.
without a collective bargaining agreement, all players NOT UNDER contract are free agents even if they only were signed and played for one week, let alone 4-6 years.
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While this is technically true, it is basically wrong. In the event that no CBA is reached by the March deadline, the NFL and the 32 teams will freeze all transactions. Of course under federal law a player is technically allowed to sign wherever he wants, no team will be conducting signings making that a moot point.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
361.aig-raiders Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Cromartie would be a decent replacement for Nnamdi.
^^^^^^^^
are u high????
January 12th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
We’ve already proven that you have a history of recalling plays that never happened
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LMFAO!
Who is “we” ????
AIG, you just need to stop.
You have NEVER proven anything. You’re upset because I disagreed with your take that Bruce Gardowski was “BY FAR” the best QB on this roster, and you’ve been trying to regain face ever since, lol.
“WE” are still waiting for you to comment on the QBs comments on that last drive of the Jags game, lol.
But “WE” all know you want to focus on me not being able to open your link, lol.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
And what has Stevie Brown done for you to state that he’s the starter. Other than his preseason plays, can you tell me exactly where in the reg season he has contributed?
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Why don’t you just ask yourself why your boy Cable had Stevie Brown playing SAFETY ahead of Mike Mitchell?
Sorry, but I don’t like Mitchell as a LB. Would rather see Goethel or Howard on the field.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Jhill,
Just like England accused of you the other day of changing the subject, you refuse to answer the question on Stevie Brown and Mike Mitchell. I know you dont have an answer and that is why you’re playing another misdirection.
Proof of you recalling plays that never happened.
1. vs STL, 4th and 1. You claimed Reece went up the middle. I proved that he went to the right side of the line. You try to backtrack by saying it’s the diff between the C and RG. BS! You didnt know wtf you were talking about.
2. vs Jax, you claimed it was Ford that caught the final ball and it was his fault for not getting out of bounds by moving forward. I proved to you that he was tackled immediately and the ball was no where near the sideline.
3. BG only outplayed JC when they played vs the same opponent and with teh same supporting staff. I dare you to show me proof other wise. I believe you’re the only moron on here that didnt think BG outplayed JC against STL. I dont even think Mistic ever went that route.
Why dont you just go back to the original Mike Mitchel vs Stevie Brown vs Branch discussion. Please show me the proof of Stevie Browns making more plays in the reg season this year than MM34. I’ll wait patiently for it.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
365.J Hill Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
And what has Stevie Brown done for you to state that he’s the starter. Other than his preseason plays, can you tell me exactly where in the reg season he has contributed?
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Why don’t you just ask yourself why your boy Cable had Stevie Brown playing SAFETY ahead of Mike Mitchell?
Sorry, but I don’t like Mitchell as a LB. Would rather see Goethel or Howard on the field.
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Ok so at least you admitted it was your opinion and cannot be backed with any facts. I have no issues with opinions. I do have issues with people that can’t back up their claims.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
In an unrelated topic… Ever notice the resemblance between Tom Brady and the Geico cavemen??…. just saying…
Gotta love that, Raider Nation!!
January 12th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Oh and What has Goethel contributed in the reg season? I’m a Goethle fan btw.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
The League made an exception for Otto and no one else has or will wear the famous double O
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The NFL ruled 00 won’t be used by any team.
Numbers 0 and 00 are no longer used, though they were issued in the NFL before the number standardization in 1973. George Plimpton famously wore 0 during a brief preseason stint at quarterback for the Detroit Lions. Jim Otto wore number “00″ (”aught-oh”) during most of his career with the Oakland Raiders. Wide receiver Ken Burrough of the Houston Oilers also wore “00″ during his NFL career in the 1970s.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
I believe you’re the only moron on here that didnt think BG outplayed JC against STL. I dont even think Mistic ever went that route.
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Mistic spent the whole week screaming at the 5 or 6 int’s Bruce should have had that game, how he almost cost us the game and didn’t win it, and even got so angry he dropped a few ALL CAPS posts on us.
Classic semi-pro moment.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
BCZ #217, what you said makes complete sense.
What scares me and the rest of the NFL teams is mr. Nnamdi Asomugha going to Pittsburg playing with Troy P.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
If we can’t get Nnamdi back, then I dont mind Cromartie at all. He was a former probowler and still young. CJ and Routt will never sniff the probowl.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
What has Goethel contributed in the reg season?
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if it wasn’t for him we’d be 32nd against the run this year and he missed the first 10 or 11 games!
January 12th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Mike Mitchell is CONSTANTLY out of position. His only strength is cleaning up tackles that his teammates start. Thats not necessarily a diss on him, tho. He can tackle. He just doesn’t know when to dial back on his spazz-o-meter
Stevie Brown hasn’t done anything with the time he’s seen. He has promising talent, but Free Saftety for the Raiders is a VERY difficult position to play.
Huff and Branch are by FAR our best safties. How is this even a topic? They both make mistakes, but think about it. They both have made lots of plays for us, too.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Stevie Brown seems pretty good in pass coverage, but he wiffed on a few open-field tackles, and he wasn’t on the field that much.
I see him as a slight upgrade to Hiram Eugene.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
CJ and Routt will never sniff the probowl
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hard to say what would happen if they are retained and Nnamdi isn’t
I’ve always said that CB’s are dime a dozen with a good pass rush. Lock up Seymour & Wimbley!
January 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Branch has been posterized for the majority of the passing TD’s we gave up this year.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
goethel…really? another lb tackling 10 yards downfield?
January 12th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Stevie Brown seems pretty good in pass coverage, but he wiffed on a few open-field tackles
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Big Ben treated him like JaWalrus treated the Eagles last year! haha. so embarrassing
January 12th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
goethel…really? another lb tackling 10 yards downfield?
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you’re thinking of Rolando against Indy!
January 12th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
I am a big fan of Huffy 24/7. Always have been.
Branch just don’t do it for me. He seems pretty good around the line of scrimmage, and is an above-average tackler.
But he gets roasted in pass coverage, and than after giving up a ton of plays, will finally make a play and do that stupid dance like he is fencing with someone.
I’m ready for the Toast Branch era to end.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Branch = Burnt toast (this season)
Give MM a fair shot at starting at SS.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Big Ben treated him like JaWalrus treated the Eagles last year!
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The Kevin McHale drop step was easily my favorite Jamarcus memory.
Close second was when he snapped the ball at the end of one game in the victory formation with about 7 seconds on the clock, followed by the opposing team calling a timeout and Cable almsot having a heart attack and the whole sideline giving Russell the “1″ finger to tell him one second. Next snap, even though the clock was stopped, Russell still waited for it to go to one second.
Camera panned to Cable with Gerard Warren next to him, and all they could do is laugh.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
There were “miscommunications” between Branch and Mitchell (KC), Routt (Tenn, SD), just off the top of my head, that resulted in TD’s. Whose fault those were, we don’t know. He didn’t give up the “majority” of passing TD’s. That’s crazy.
I would say he had a down year compared to what I expected of him. But he, Huff, and Routt all get murdered on this blog, and not enough credit for the plays they do make.
They need to play better as a unit. No question. But it can happen with the current talent we have, I believe.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
nobody else is anxious to see Branch, Mitchell, Brown & Eugene battle it out for the 2 starting safety spots ???
January 12th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Although, no, I am not a fan of the Branch fencing dance, either LOL
January 12th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I like Huff, but I dnt think he is coming back.
Branch & MM will start at S next season.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
a lot of us liked Goethel after the draft and for that 1 goaline play in the preseason. However, I dont remember him making any plays at all when he finally played in the reg season. Here’s hoping to a better 2nd year.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Huff had a great years this season, and he showed improvement last season, but I don’t think he earned that huge salary he will demand.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Mike Mitchell starting at Strong Safety is a nightmare. Trust me. I have every game on DVR and have been watching them. He’s one of those players that jumps off the screen like “where the hell are you supposed to be???” He really doesn’t get it mentally. I now see why the coaching staff wanted him cut.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
The biggest question is who is Routt (Al will resign) going to look at for help to line up properly, when Nnamdi is gone?
Routt = Toast (2011)
January 12th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
# JONTRAIN Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Mike Mitchell starting at Strong Safety is a nightmare. Trust me. I have every game on DVR and have been watching them. He’s one of those players that jumps off the screen like “where the hell are you supposed to be???” He really doesn’t get it mentally. I now see why the coaching staff wanted him cut.
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No. Your thinking of Routt.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
If Huff leaves, I’m trying to tell you…we’re gonna have problems. Stevie Brown would have to make a HUGE leap to fill Huff’s shoes.
And no, MM can not, and will not, be starting alongside Branch. Mitchell doesn’t even play the FS position.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
311.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
DMAC,
I would cut/ not resign Henderson because he can’t play a lot of snaps. In case of an njuty, Moss can be more valuable and he is younger.
Again ( I blame Raccoon for all this), but I wouldn’t cut anyone from the DL to add another DT. I would cut 1/5 Ss or 1/10 LBs we have.
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Blame Al, cause he won’t stock 4 pure dt’s, and d@m sure not 3 big run stuffin dt’s. To be a dt in the Town ya gotta penetrate… like D-Russ… well at least on the field. If we have 2 big run DT’s on the roster @ 1 time we are lucky.
Blame it on the rain.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Jhill,
Just like England accused of you the other day of changing the subject, you refuse to answer the question on Stevie Brown and Mike Mitchell. I know you dont have an answer and that is why you’re playing another misdirection.
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LOL!
England?????
You and England are “we”???
What a tandem.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
SLB = Wimbley(plays DE in passing situations)
MLB = McPain
WLB = Groves/ Goethel
I think Groves and Goethel are solid guys, but we need to improve that position!
January 12th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Routt gets a bad rap too. It’s been well documented in this blog that his completion percentage is lower than Aso, and WAY lower than Revis. Routt’s only problem (and not a small one) has been a few critical PI’s that extended opponents drives in critical situations. If you watch other teams play, you realize that EVERY db gets burned.
The great ones just make big plays to outweigh the bad ones.
Routt isn’t great, but he is far from toast.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
maybe in the indy game but i remember more positive pkays from
mcclain than bad and defenitely more than brown or goethel…
January 12th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
393.DMAC Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
# JONTRAIN Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
Mike Mitchell starting at Strong Safety is a nightmare. Trust me. I have every game on DVR and have been watching them. He’s one of those players that jumps off the screen like “where the hell are you supposed to be???” He really doesn’t get it mentally. I now see why the coaching staff wanted him cut.
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No. Your thinking of Routt.
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DMAC is exactly right. Against KC late in the game, Bowe was the only WR out there for KC. Routt decided to go and cover the TE and leaving MM34 out there trying to defend a WR. You can clearly see MM34 yelling at Routt on that play.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Proof of you recalling plays that never happened.
1. vs STL, 4th and 1. You claimed Reece went up the middle. I proved that he went to the right side of the line. You try to backtrack by saying it’s the diff between the C and RG. BS! You didnt know wtf you were talking about.
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MOST people would say our FB dive is a play that is designed to go up the middle. Now if you want to hang your hat on him going behind RG as not being up the middle, then have fun with that, lol.
The POINT was the pre snap read and JC recognizing the overload. Since when is a FB dive supposed to go to the “outside” instead of up the middle?
January 12th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
34mm will be a beast ST next season!
We need to resign Mr. Cartwright he is a beast on STs!
January 12th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
owners need to careful of collussion the NFL does not have anti-trust exemptions likr the MLB owner5s do and they were found guilty of collusion, of course the NFL does have better lawyers than MLB,just ask Al.
January 12th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Routt’s stat are extremely misleading. His agent will use it to leverage a fat contract out of Al though. How many times have we seen Routt get burned by a WR on a crossing route. The only thing Routt can defend is a deep ball. He can’t line up in the slot and he can’t defend over the middle. Miami game pretty much showed how bad Routt was.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Whatever happens with our FAs happens, NONE of us have ANY control over ANYTHING!! Its all in the hands of Big Al…
Just as long as we dont re-sign Jawalrus or Moss, how bad can it really be??
(see #368 for a good chuckle)
Good night Nation!!
January 12th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
2. vs Jax, you claimed it was Ford that caught the final ball and it was his fault for not getting out of bounds by moving forward. I proved to you that he was tackled immediately and the ball was no where near the sideline.
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You proved it to me? Actually me watching the play again instead of just going off recall proved it to me.
But the POINT was YOU talking about JC throwing it into the end zone, right? What a horrible decision it was to throw it to Ford, right?
My POINT was that the QB was trying to get the ball OOB. But that messed up your whole JC sucks rant, and here we are. We are still waiting on your comments from the QB saying exactly what I said.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Raiders defense will be a top ten defense, remember theis Raider D is young.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Hill
You should really give up.
1. You stated emphatically Reece went up the middle. The play was to the right side and it actually ran to the right side. You’re now trying to BS your way out of this argument.
2. Tom Cable admitted after the game that JC should have recognized the situation with STL overloading the right side and called a timeout. That is why Tom tried to call a timeout. You’re still trying to make excuses for JC.
I’m done with you. You can BS as much as you want.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Raccoon,
I blame Al for that too. I know it’s a passing league now, but can we keep more than 1 run stuffing DT that can play more than 20 snaps, and he can stay healthy!
Add a guy in later RDs 4-7th that is strong, and young enough to play more snaps when we need him to.
I would daft:
CB
G/T
WLB
C
DT
QB
January 12th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
3. BG only outplayed JC when they played vs the same opponent and with teh same supporting staff. I dare you to show me proof other wise. I believe you’re the only moron on here that didnt think BG outplayed JC against STL. I dont even think Mistic ever went that route.
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Moron???
Are you getting upset again?
Don’t get all fired up again. People are allowed to disagree with you, right?
LOL at you lil emotional arsse.
And when did I say BG didn’t outplay JC in the STl game? I believe I was discussing with Alex how he could say that JC couldn’t come back in the STL game when he did it against KC?
January 12th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Hill, you spent an entire day arguing with me how you didnt think BG’s 2nd half was any different than JC’s first half against STL. So yes, you deserve the moron title of the day.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Why don’t you just ask yourself why your boy Cable had Stevie Brown playing SAFETY ahead of Mike Mitchell?
Sorry, but I don’t like Mitchell as a LB. Would rather see Goethel or Howard on the field.
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Ok so at least you admitted it was your opinion and cannot be backed with any facts. I have no issues with opinions. I do have issues with people that can’t back up their claims.
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You sure do beat your own meat a lot.
What makes you think anyone gives a fly F what you have an issue with, lol.
How convenient of you to ignore the FACT that Stevie Brown is playing SAFETY ahead of Mike Mitchell?
Did you not like that FACT?
January 12th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
371.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
I believe you’re the only moron on here that didnt think BG outplayed JC against STL. I dont even think Mistic ever went that route.
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Mistic spent the whole week screaming at the 5 or 6 int’s Bruce should have had that game, how he almost cost us the game and didn’t win it, and even got so angry he dropped a few ALL CAPS posts on us.
Classic semi-pro moment.
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Sure you weren’t confusing me with Mistic AIG?
You know we all post alike, right?
January 12th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Routt has INT’s and pass deflections to his name. Mitchell has done nothing positive. Thats all I’m saying.
I’ve jumped up and down screaming at Routt as many times as the next man. I’ve screamed for him to be outright released. But re-watching the games, he’s shown me a lot. He deserves way more credit than yall give him
January 12th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
My POINT was that the QB was trying to get the ball OOB. But that messed up your whole JC sucks rant, and here we are. We are still waiting on your comments from the QB saying exactly what I said.
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The main issue here is two-fold.
First of all, if a coach called this play (presumably Hue) he is a moron. No defense is going to let you go 15 yards down the field and out of bounds in that situation (well all DC’s except the one we may go hire).
Second, if a OC did call this play, any QB worth his salts would say “WTF???, scratch that here’s what we are doing” and at least heave into the end zone.
That last play in Jax was an epic fail, no way around it. Blame the OC, blame the QB, blame both (I’m sure some will blame Cooper Carlisle), but that was stuidity.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Hill
I’m done with you.
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aig-raiders Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Hill,
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If I had a dollar for every dismissive “I’m done with you” to only have you post to me 5 seconds later, lol.
It’s you typical MO.
You try to go a few rounds with the big doggs, get slapped around, and then you have to run to the gym or something, lol.
Yeah man, we know the FB dive to Reece isn’t designed to go up the middle. WTF am I talking about.
Yeah, we know the fact that the PRE SNAP READ is the point doesn’t matter to you and is a bunch of BS.
LMFAO!
January 12th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
JFB, You follow Gradkowski on Twitter!!! LOL!
January 12th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
# JONTRAIN Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Routt has INT’s and pass deflections to his name. Mitchell has done nothing positive. Thats all I’m saying.
I’ve jumped up and down screaming at Routt as many times as the next man. I’ve screamed for him to be outright released. But re-watching the games, he’s shown me a lot. He deserves way more credit than yall give him
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Routt has improved, but he still gave up 2 many TD’s.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Wow, so now Brown and MM34 are both FS? LMFAO? I thought Brown was teh backup to Huff and MM34 back up to Branch whenever MM34 is not in the big nickel? Wow, you sure do trust your eyes dont you.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
JFB,
You can argue that JC should have changed the play. But it was out of a TO and how many times do you see that happen?
Ford was running a sideline pattern to get OOB, JC had pressure from both DEs, threw off his backfoot, game over.
To try and put that last drive on the QB is just plain short sighted IMO. Even the play where JC ran into Carlisle, lol. A Double move???? That was the play that was called and the OFFENSE was not able to execute it. From the RG to the WR not being able to get open quick enough or what ever.
Expecting JC magic, so to speak was not going to happen. It’s not like he missed an open DHB streakign down the sidelines, lol.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
it’ll be interesting to see what happens at safety next year …
Mitchell was a 2nd rounder that the team compared to Jack Tatum and Al Davis personally saved him from elimination last year. He rewarded the Owner/GM by playing pretty well in 4 or 5 games covering some of the games best TE’s and in run support or special teams
Stevie Brown was a playmaker in OTA’s, camp & preseason. made a few nice plays during the regular season too, most of them on special teams. 7th round speedy project that played LB for Michigan
Tyvon Branch was a 4th rounder that Al Davis traded up to draft. played CB in college and SS in the pros (much like Michael Huff that way) … big hitter that often seems lost or burnt in coverage (opposite of Huff that way) another special teams ace
Hiram Eugene was an absolute BEAST on special teams this year. A Lane Kiffin & Tom Cable favorite, Eugene always seems to get some play on defense, too. Has starting experience at FS – which may come into play when Huff joins Baltimore this spring
January 12th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go DUBS! (beat LA)
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
January 12th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
JC didn’t lose the JAX game.
Special Teams lost the JAX game.
January 12th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
419.aig-raiders Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Wow, so now Brown and MM34 are both FS? LMFAO? I thought Brown was teh backup to Huff and MM34 back up to Branch whenever MM34 is not in the big nickel? Wow, you sure do trust your eyes dont you.
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Still posting to me?????
Like I said, a dollar ….
Anyway, didn’t ur boy Cable say those positions were interchangeable? Why don’t you go back and read what Cable was saying about Branch and Mitchell playing SAFETY together and then get back to us.
Mile Mitchell is now playing LB, right or wrong?
Or are we realling playing a dime with the extra DB in there and the coaches don’t know WTF they are talking about?
January 12th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Get a room!
January 12th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
If I had a dollar for every dismissive “I’m done with you” to only have you post to me 5 seconds later, lol.
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excuse me?
I beleive I’ve told you “we’re done” and “mind your bidness” before, but never “I’m done with you” !!!
and it lasted a few days, not a few seconds
but at the end of the day, I’m still a fan of DJ Wiggle
January 12th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
sweaters
January 12th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
I remember when Cable said FS and SS were interchangable. And I remember thinking to myself “BS!”
Only because FS is the only one that they ever leave as the single deep safety.
I’m sure the positions are interchangable in some ways, but only some. No way Mitchell or Branch is getting left as the single free S
January 12th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Is Hue the coach yet?
January 12th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Still unsure why we didn’t dust off Howard in the jax game to cover the TE. I know he was in the Cable dog house but he could have helped in coverage as opposed to a bunch of safeties out there. Is he gone next year?
January 12th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
no Dakota not until we interview Rob Ryan and John Fox first!!
January 12th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
NEW YORK – This year, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers prepaid for its place in the big game. Sending $8 million and four top draft picks over three years to the Oakland Raiders, the Bucs signed coach Jon Gruden to a five-year $17.5 million deal last January. On Sunday, in what has been pegged as the “Gruden Bowl,” the Bucs coach will face his old squad, now headed by former offensive coordinator Bill Callahan, who demands just $1 million per year.
It’s clear that winning brings more pay, but does higher pay mean results? According to Sports Business Daily, the average annual salary for an NFL head coach is $2.5 million per year. Of the 13 coaches who make less than that, only one–Callahan–has been to a Super Bowl.
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must read for Hue Jackson!
January 12th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
PTI just reported Jon Gruden has stated he will not be coaching in 2011.
So no return to Oakland.
January 12th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
A Double move???? That was the play that was called and the OFFENSE was not able to execute it.
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Should have dusted off the Tom Cable classic “four verticals”, lol.
Regardless, I just don’t buy the excuses on that last play. It was CLEARLY not the reason we lost, I’m not hanging that on him/them.
Just have some fkn life at the end of the game would ya? Talking sacks, throwing short of the end zone on the last play and wathcing the last 5 seconds just tick off is what losers do.
January 12th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Here’s a name for Al…
Pete Carmichael Jr
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2010/1/5/1235217/coaches-worth-a-damn-pete
Pete Carmichael Jr.: Carmichael is the Saints offensive coordinator. It’s his first year in the position and so he might not yet be ripe for promotion. Before serving the Saints at OC, he was the quarterbacks/passing game coordinator. He took that position in 2006. That’s the season Drew Brees joined the Saints and metamorphosed from broken down, but talented young quarterback to Breesus. That’s also the season Marques Colston went from seventh round “who” to rookie #1 receiver. Here’s a quick snippet from Carmichael’s bio:
As offensive coordinator, Carmichael will bring the perspective of having a wide range of coaching experiences, including working with nearly every position group on offense during his career. With the Chargers, he assisted wide receivers coach James Lofton for an offense that ranked 10th in the NFL in 2004 and 2005. Carmichael joined the Chargers in 2002 and served as offensive assistant/quality control until being promoted.
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Worked with Lofton (former Raiders WR coach) and helped rejuvenate Brees in New Orleans
January 12th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Good Hue Jackson bio when he was with Ravens…
http://www.zimbio.com/Watch+NFL+Football+Games+Online+Live+On+Your+Computer/articles/m3h975SuzWa/Hue+Jackson+Biography
Hue Jackson was named the Baltimore Ravens quarterback coach in February, 2008, joining the staff of John Harbaugh.
Hue Jackson coached with the Atlanta Falcons during the 2007 NFL season. This was his second time being the Offensive Coordinator for an NFL team. Jackson was the highly-respected wide receiver coach for the Cincinnati Bengals the past three seasons. During his successful time with the Bengals, Jackson coached wide receivers Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh who were one of the most productive receiving tandems in Bengals history and one of the top duos in the league. In 2006 Johnson (1,369) and Houshmandzadeh (1,081) became the first Bengals teammates to each surpass the 1,000-yard receiving mark. Johnson’s 1,369 receiving yards led the NFL and marked the fourth consecutive season that he paced the AFC in receiving yards, becoming the first player in NFL history to lead his conference in receiving yards four consecutive seasons.
While working with coach Hue Jackson, Chad Johnson set NFL and several Bengals team records over the years. Johnson established a new League mark for most receiving yards in back-to-back games with 450 in 2006 and a new Bengals record for most receiving yards in a single-game with 260 against San Diego. Johnson has posted the top four receiving yardage games in Cincinnati history and holds the team record for most 100-yard receiving games in a career (21 in just six seasons).
Jackson also saw the fruits of his labor with T. J. Houshmandzadeh as he helped build the former seventh round draft choice into a key cog in the Bengals offensive machine. Houshmandzadeh enjoyed his most productive years under the watchful eye of Jackson as he recorded progressively better numbers each season. Starting in 2004 with Jackson’s arrival, Houshmandzadeh totaled 73 and 78 catch seasons, respectively. And culminating with his 90 catch, 1,081 yard, nine touchdown career year in 2006. Jackson’s worked with second-year wide receiver Chris Henry who produced career-highs in catches (36), yards (605) and touchdowns (9). In 2005, the wideout duo of Johnson-Houshmandzadeh combined to post 175 receptions for 2,388 yards while helping Cincinnati win the AFC North title and reach the playoffs for the first time in 10 seasons. Johnson’s 97 receptions were a career-high, besting his previous high of 95 he posted under Jackson’s watch in 2004. Together, the wideouts scored 27 of Cincinnati’s 48 touchdowns in 2005 as the team finished fourth in the NFL in scoring (26.3 points per game). The Bengals were also fifth in the league in net passing yards per game (238.8). In 2005, Jackson tutored an impact rookie in third-round draft choice Henry, who had 31 catches for 422 yards. Henry’s six touchdown catches were the most by a Bengals rookie since 1985. The 2004 campaign saw Johnson and Houshmandzadeh post 2,252 receiving yards and 168 receptions.
Jackson came to the Bengals from the Washington Redskins, where he was the Running Backs Coach from 2001-02 and Offensive Coordinator in 2003. Jackson called plays for head coach Steve Spurrier as Offensive Coordinator in Washington, the first time Spurrier allowed someone other than himself to handle that task during his head coaching tenure. Jackson was back in the job market in 2004 after Steve Spurrier resigned as Redskins head coach, and was quickly recruited by Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis, who had been Jackson’s coaching colleague on the Washington staff in 2002. Jackson helped guide Redskins RB Stephen Davis to a career-high 1,432 yards in 2001, and Davis was on pace for another 1,000-yard season in ‘02 before a shoulder injury prematurely ended his year.
Jackson spent 14 years as a college coach before joining the Redskins. His last college post was as Offensive Coordinator for the University of Southern California from 1997-2000. Jackson’s duties in his last three years at USC included the recruiting and early development of Bengals QB Carson Palmer, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2003 NFL Draft. Palmer came to USC in 1998. Jackson also helped recruit Matt Leinart before he left USC.
Jackson began his coaching career in 1987 at his alma mater, the University of the Pacific. After three years there, he moved on to Cal State Fullerton (1990-91), Arizona State (‘92-95) and California (‘96). At Cal, he was Offensive Coordinator and helped lead the Golden Bears to an Aloha Bowl berth.
He picked up his first year’s experience in the pro ranks in the spring of 1991, coaching running backs, wide receivers and special teams for the London Monarchs of the World League. He also had three NFL summer internships, working with the Los Angeles Rams in 1990, the Arizona Cardinals in ‘92 and the Redskins in ‘95.
Personal life
Hue is currently married to Michelle Jackson. They have two daughters, Jordyn and Baylee Jackson.
Born October 22, 1965, in Los Angeles, California, Jackson played quarterback at Pacific in 1985-86, throwing for 2,544 yards and 19 touchdowns in his career. He also lettered in basketball in 1986. Hue is now coaching for the Baltimore Ravens.
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Jackson helped guide Redskins RB Stephen Davis to a career-high 1,432 yards in 2001, and Davis was on pace for another 1,000-yard season in ‘02 before a shoulder injury prematurely ended his year.
He also got McFadden on track this season.
January 12th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Another article on Pete Carmichael Jr.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/tag/_/name/pete-carmichael-jr
January 12th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
If you go to the web site of Gallerys agency,
January 12th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Let’s try it again, if you go to the website of Gallery’s agency, you will see they claim to be CBA experts in loopholes and outs. They have a huge client roster.
http://www.prioritysports.biz/football/contracts.html
January 12th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Oakland coaching update
January, 12, 2011
Jan 12
5:30
PM ET
By Bill Williamson
The Oakland Raiders have denied a report that said defensive coordinator John Marshall has been let go.
“That is untrue,” Oakland senior executive John Herrera said Wednesday.
Herrera reiterated that the Raiders have begun the search for a head coach. He would not reveal who was interviewed or how many candidates have been interviewed. Herrera has also said the team has been reviewing the status of the assistant coaching staff, including Marshall, for a week and that it will continue. Herrera didn’t give a timetable for the hiring of a new coach for the evaluation of the coaching staff.
Oakland offensive coordinator Hue Jackson is considered a top candidate to be named the head coach and to replace Tom Cable. Former Oakland assistants Marc Trestman and Rob Ryan have been mentioned.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/23258/oakland-coaching-update
January 12th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
“That is untrue,” Oakland senior executive John Herrera said Wednesday.
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Whatever Herrera says, you know the opposite is true.
January 12th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
JFB, College basketball tonight. Who do you like?
January 12th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
I haven’t watched more than the one half of Cal playing Kansas in college hoops all year.
BTW, I like the Pats, Bears, Ravens (to lose but cover) and the Falcons.
There you go.
January 12th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Thanks man. I’ll take the opposite.
January 12th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
JFB, Laying 9 and 10 points in the playoffs don’t pay the bills.
January 12th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 11th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Stanford Routt: If Asomugha were to go elsewhere, Davis could ante up big bucks for Routt after giving him a first- and third-round tender last year.
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Jerry,
think about that for a second. Do you honestly believe Routt builds confidence in anyone as the #1 Corner. Hecckkkkk NOOOOOO!!!!
Also on your CWood vs Nnamdi..
CWood in his prime was actually tested time and again. I can remember vividly he got his rears kicked by TO in SF. I can remember CWood getting burned by KC late in the game in Oakland. Do you ever remember a game where Nnamdi got toasted time and again while healthy or giving up a bomb to lose the game?
**********************************************************************************************************Cwood had Eric Allen opposite of him for a fee seasons so he got tested alot and I remember TO burnt him all day in Oakland all day… We were supposed to win but that 1 on 1 matchup killed us and we lost… But TO would do that to Nnamdi too…. He is faster and stronger and hits ridiculous hops….Cwood is a better playmaker than Nnamdi he forces fumbles and gets to the qb and baits quarterbacks into picks…. Nnamdi has had no one close to his skills on the opposite side so it is easier to pick on the other side or one of our safeties or linebackers who can’t cover a tight end…. I can also remember that Nnamdi couldn’t cover all that great for the first few years either…. I think Routt will get better as time goes on and he had more picks and touchdowns then Nnamdi… Bottom line Nnamdi is not a playmaker…. Yeah nice to blanket recievers but I want to hear some noise every once in a while….. 16.8 million pays for at least 25-30 touchdowns and he will never post that in his whole career…. Make him take a patchy or get rid if him…..
January 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
seymour,aso, huff, bush, reese and miller are the top to resign. then there is wimbley. bush will probably leave. aso is gone IMO. seymout,huff,miller,reese and wimbley should all get resigned. expensive.
January 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Hue was a great hire by Al but with so much experience and positive results coaching WR’s, how come DHB and Murphy are progressing so slowly and how come Jerry Mac noticed 9er receivers going after the ball noticeably harder than the Raider receivers during practice?
January 12th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Randy Moss and Miles Austin both eat Aso for lunch. You know who eats up Revis? Nobody.
January 12th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
BTW, I don’t think this has been discussed yet, but former Raiders OL Steve Wright is gonna be on the next season of “Survivor.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_Redemption_Island
January 12th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
1eye,
Agreed on your assessment. Cwood had more natural football skills but Nnamd is bigger and worked harder at his craft than CWood ever did. I’m still disappointed we never had an opp for both CWood and #21 in the backfield at the same time as corners. What could have been.
I just feel like Jerry has been hating on Nnamdi lately and comparing him to Cwood without really telling the whole story.
January 12th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
448.inonewordraider Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Hue was a great hire by Al but with so much experience and positive results coaching WR’s, how come DHB and Murphy are progressing so slowly and how come Jerry Mac noticed 9er receivers going after the ball noticeably harder than the Raider receivers during practice?
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Because Sanjay Lal coaches the wide receivers and he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
This is the same argument I hear about Tom Cable and the o-line, with folks forgetting that we actually have an o-line coach. Hue is the offensive coordinator and Cable was the head coach; they weren’t position coaches and while I suppose you could say that each had done the respective position job before, once you take on a head coaching or coordinator job it doesn’t leave much time for the details. That’s why you hire guys to do it for you.
January 12th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Hue Jax said he owns the offense. So if he gets teh credit for ST and D points, then I lay the blame on him for not improving our WR’s. As a matter fact, Murphy regressed and DHB and JLH were non factors again. The only bright spot was Ford’s incredible plays.
January 12th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Coaches CANNOT teach a player how to catch a football.
January 12th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Can they just announce a coach already
January 12th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
454.The Real Oakglenn Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Coaches CANNOT teach a player how to catch a football.
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That’s mostly true, but if a raw player (DHB, anyone?) has bad mechanics a good coach can work with him to improve that. That said, I do absolutely agree that Murphy and DHB are just not catching all the balls they should.
I just have to believe that our young guys are not getting coached properly. Jacoby Ford gets targeted often enough; of course, he doesn’t drop balls and he probably runs better routes. It frustrates me a little that Campbell gets the “Captain Checkdown” thing in here. When you only have one reliable receiver (who’s a rookie) and the opposition deliberately takes your TE out of the game there aren’t many options left sometimes.
January 12th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
My strategy: let nnamdi and routt leave, bring in some real Dline help! Here’s why Chris in NY…
Top 5 Defenses vs the RUN: Pitt, Chicago, NY Jets, Chargers, Baltimore.
Bottom 5 Defenses vs the RUN: Buffalo, Denver, Arizona, Oakland, Tampa.
Teams with good run D make the playoffs, teams with bad run D don’t. Its not rocket science.
January 12th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Oak ranks 11th in total yardage Defense, Baltimore ranks 10th, not bad you say…Oak ranks 20th in points received, Baltimore ranks 2nd…so what happened? Baltimore gave up just 5 rushing TDs, while Oak gave up 14…Wanna fix the D? fix the POS Dline, bring in some big uglies and stop the friggin run!
January 12th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
There is this girl that I work with and she is a HUGE RAIDER fan, she’s from Oakland and today I asked her who she thought the new HC would be….
She said her brother works at a prison and that Hue’s brother is locked up there. This “supposedly” brother said that Hue has already signed a contract with the Raiders to be the HC.
Now don’t bite my head off, I just thought that it was an interesting conversation that I should share with you all. I don’t even know if Hue has a bro that is in prison. Pure speculation and probably a bunch of bs.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Routt gets beat alot on crossing routes, which is the scheme if you ask me.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Campbell played GREAT considering he had the RAWEST receiving corps in the league.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
HUE IS DUE!
BOOK IT!
January 12th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
I say let Miller walk. I want an athletic, dynamic playmaker as tight end. Finley, Gates skill set comes to mind.
FACT: Both of NE’s rookie TE are better than Miller.
Print that.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
keep miller,wimbley,seymour,routt, huff,bush.let aso,gallery,lechler(trade or cut )leave.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
classy and compassionate speech by Prez BO tonight … WHAT ?!??!?!?!?!?
January 12th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
It does seem like TEs are popping up outta nowhere. Dallas Clark goes down and this Tomme kid steps right in.
2 TEs in NE
The TE from Seattle this past weekend.
Wouldn’t break te bank for Miller.
Enough of this making our guys the highest paid player at their position!
January 12th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
i would keep miller but not break the bank,but i don`t think you have too.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
J Hill the TE from Seattle has actually been pretty good up until this season, 5 TD’s his rookie season 7 TD’s before that. Unless you are talking about the other TE..
January 12th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
but lechler at 6.5 mil a year needs to go.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
mevis got ate up by ted ginn jr
January 12th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Revis was beat by Demariyous Thomas, but was having hamstring problems. Nnamdi was also getting punked by Bess, but he was on a bad ankle.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Guy,
Whoever that TE was who caught 2 TDs this past weekend. Hadn’t noticed that guy before this season. Same with a lot of these TEs that seem to be scoring every week.
Just saying I wouldn’t break the bank to sign Miller. We could start Meyers and draft a TE in rd 6 and not miss a beat.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Mevis ain’t got beat yet.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Oakglenn I know he has given up atleast 1 TD but that can be blamed on his Hamstring injury. When was it that Nnamdi was smoked by Moss? I don’t think it was a couple a years ago, I believe that was all Chris Johnson.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPtJF-IgPc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
ted ginn beating revis so did moss
January 12th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
457.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
My strategy: let nnamdi and routt leave, bring in some real Dline help! Here’s why Chris in NY…
Top 5 Defenses vs the RUN: Pitt, Chicago, NY Jets, Chargers, Baltimore.
Bottom 5 Defenses vs the RUN: Buffalo, Denver, Arizona, Oakland, Tampa.
Teams with good run D make the playoffs, teams with bad run D don’t. Its not rocket science.
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theres no point in being good at the run, but poor in pass coverage.i.e the Texans and Colts def’s
January 12th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
449.The Real Oakglenn Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Randy Moss and Miles Austin both eat Aso for lunch. You know who eats up Revis? Nobody.
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are u a raider fan or a revis fan??? your a clown if you think that statement is true. Revis is a good corner in a Great def, that def is able to disguise blitz and bring pressure. If you put him in an avg Def( the Raiders def) watch what happens.
Nnamdi is able to cover one side of the field, even in the absence of pressure.
January 12th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
473.The Real Oakglenn Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Mevis ain’t got beat yet.
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You’re joking right? Moss beat him one handed earlier this year on a bomb.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Datruth, I actually saw somewhere the Raiders get one of the best pass rush/ play in the league. I think it was something like football outsiders.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
One play.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Nam doesn’t make plays. How many PI calls did Nam get this year? How many did Revis get?
Get back to me chumps.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
Oakglenn,
I can assure you as soon as Al Davis signs him back you’d be on here touting Nnamdi’s greatness.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
“classy and compassionate speech by Prez BO tonight … WHAT ?!??!?!?!?!?”
Nothing wrong with the words–everything wrong with the venue, IMHO: I disliked the pep rally tone, which was the result of the venue and the high school girls cheering, as if a three pointer had been sunk.
Everyone is raised differently when it comes to what he or she expects as to tone at a memorial. I happen to prefer a setting with more decorum. I realize others may feel differently.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Anyone consider the possibility of Al holding out on a real HC because of the pending lockout? That could affect Gruden’s decision to stay out, too. Not necessarily meaning he would come here or anything, just that it’s making him hesitant to go anywhere. There’s probably not going to be an NFL season next year. The owners want to add more vacation homes to their estates and those pesky players, who get the job done on the field, want to get their fair share of the NFL’s lucrative profits.
January 12th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
I gotta say you were rite RMR……. My plea of denial saying that there was not going to be a lockout was nothing but pure Denial….. Everything points to Lockout
January 12th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
It’s going to suck not having a football season, but in the long run I think it will be good for the country. Hopefully it will reverse a trend, that basically started in 1980, of union leadership buckling to corporate bullies who intimidate them with bleak economic scenarios and public outrage. DeMaurice Smith is a former corporate lawyer. He knows their games, and knows they’re lying about being broke, which is why he’s not budging until they show him the books.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
314.Raider O Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
I hear Bo and Prime were the only 2 players to ever run a sub 4.2 40.
Crazy speed!!!
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Some LB from NV runs a pretty fast 40 now. Sumpin like 4.16
January 12th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Richard Seymour: Franchised. Leader of the D
Nnamdi Asomugha: Gone: Wont match what he gets somewhere else
Robert Gallery: Gone, perennial underachiever and easily hurt
Stanford Routt: sign – 2-5 yr deal- starter alongside CJ/MCf
John Henderson: sign – 1-2 yr – still a monster when healthy
Langston Walker: sign – 1-2 yr cheap, can start/backup T/G
Rock Cartwright: sign – 1-2 yr cheap – Leader of the ST
Khalif Barnes: sign – 1-3 yr cheap, versatile, could start
Sam Williams: Are you kidding me? Cut this guy already, Al
Michael Bennett: Gone: Sign a young RB late in draft or FA
Kyle Boller: sign: makes the min, is a good backup, knows Hue
Charlie Frye: Gone: Sign a young kid draft/FA for the future
Daniel Loper: sign: makes the min, played well for Gallery
J.T. O’Sullivan: Gone – is this guy still in the league?
Michael Huff: sign – extension – Stevie’s not ready
Bruce Gradkowski: Gone. Working for Comcast now-should stay
Thomas Howard: Gone – will be starting in a 3-4 system
Ricky Brown: Gone: Love the heart, can’t play
Hiram Eugene: sign: good on ST, can backup both safety spots
Jarvis Moss: hmmm… Give him a shot in camp…
Kameron Wimbley: sign!!- One of the best players on D -stud!
Zach Miller: sign – 2nd best player on offense
Michael Bush: sign – probably wants to leave tho.. Dallas??
Samson Satele: sign – he played well 2nd half – knows system
Mario Henderson: sign – start at RT/RG, if he cant, cut him
Johnnie Lee Higgins: Gone: what ever happened to Johnnie Lee?
January 12th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
by the way there was pi on that play too…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geC91sUvo88&feature=youtube_gdata_player
moss on revis…slouching
January 12th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sxkXH6gZ08&feature=youtube_gdata_player
lee evans told him yo hitbthe weights even with jp losman throwing….
January 12th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
nnamdi just on Kcal9 and said he doesnt know where he’ll end up
January 12th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
the rook thonas scored on revis…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8tBvGqOkgk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
January 12th, 2011 at 8:44 pm
20.DaRayduh Says:
January 11th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
For DJ, from previous #697
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/01/11/49ersraiders-update-the-harbaugh-spurning-farewell-nate-davis-talking-mcnabb-and-more/
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Thx., but Kawakami says NOTHING in that weak article based on ANYTHING he KNOWS to have actually happened. Every statement he makes in it is based on conjecture and outright guessing. He quotes Harbaugh as saying he hadn’t talked to Al Davis “lately” so “obviously Al was spurned by Harbaugh? There is NO PROOF Al went after Harbaugh at all. But since Harbaugh said HE DID NOT talk to Al, which is the FACT of what happened in HARBAUGHS OWN WORDS, Kawakami totally twists that to mean that Al was just waiting for Harbaugh to come crawling to Al to beg him for a job and how Al must be so disappointed.
Is it possible Al didn’t actually WANT to talk to Harbaugh? Based on what Harbaugh ACTUALLY SAID you would say NO! I never heard a report that Harbaugh winked when he said that. But Kawakami is so sure of what Al thinks and feels DESPITE WHAT IS ACTUALLY SAID.
Since Kamakrappy is so sure of what AL Davis thinks and feels then please tell us which players he’s gonna sign and who our next HC will be. I’m sure when it is announced he’ll tell us he “knew who it was gonna be all along”.
Kawakami needs to get over the embarrassment of Herrera making him pee his pants at that press conference and quit making stuff up.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Mevis sucks.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
LOL. I forgot all about that Herrera/Kawakami spat. The Raiders have definitely provided the sports world with a side show the past 8 years. Gotta give them that much.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Nam doesn’t take chances. Nam doesn’t get to the ball. Nam doesn’t make plays.
NAM IS NOT A GAME CHANGER.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Wrong again MR.
The sports world couldn’t care less about the Raiders.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Well, from a serious football standpoint, the sports world couldn’t care less about the Raiders. They haven’t exactly been contenders. But as far as entertainment goes, the Raiders are always on the main stage. There’s some real characters in the organization.
January 12th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
January 12th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
459.Raiders for life Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
There is this girl that I work with and she is a HUGE RAIDER fan, she’s from Oakland and today I asked her who she thought the new HC would be….
She said her brother works at a prison and that Hue’s brother is locked up there. This “supposedly” brother said that Hue has already signed a contract with the Raiders to be the HC.
Now don’t bite my head off, I just thought that it was an interesting conversation that I should share with you all. I don’t even know if Hue has a bro that is in prison. Pure speculation and probably a bunch of bs.
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Who knows? Interesting though. Glad you shared it though. If it turns out to be true you can hopefully get more nuggets throughout the season.
More reliable than anything Kawakami spews.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Djohhny,
1)What EXACTLY did Kawakami say in that piece that you have a problem with?
2) Do you actually SUPPORT that f’n embarrasment Jon Herrera?
January 12th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Jon Herrera is a Raider.
Go Raiders!
January 12th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Jon Herrera is an embarrasment. NO real professional franchise would employ such a fool.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
I have no problem with Herrera.
He speaks for Al.
Tell me one thing Herrera has done so horribly wrong?
PR doesn’t matter between the white lines.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
How about confronting Kawakami like a 14 year old punk? How bout how he went after Gannon last year?? The dude is the dictionary def of “unprofessional”.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Come on, dude.
One thing.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Yeah dude, that really screwed the Raiders for decades.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Gannon. LOL!
January 12th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
Who said it “screwed the Raiders for decades”??
January 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
“Gannon. LOL!” Whats that even mean?
January 12th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
MR, come on one thing.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Thats right, Herrera has done his job. Nothing more and nothing less.
Long live Al.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
If he died fifty years ago he still would have accomplished more in his life than your ENTIRE BLOODLINE.
Long live Al.
Go Raiders!
January 12th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Tell me when I’m wrong.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
501.Dude Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Djohhny,
1)What EXACTLY did Kawakami say in that piece that you have a problem with?
2) Do you actually SUPPORT that f’n embarrasment Jon Herrera?
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My problem is EVERY THING Kawakami said was not based on anything that happened. It was all guessing how Al must feel about supposedly being spurned by Harbaugh. He offered no proof whatsoever that supports that Al wanted Harbaugh and that he’s really upset about him signing with SF. NONE.
He didn’t even bother to throw out ” a source close to the Raiders” or anything.
I don’t like Kawakami. Never have. He comes off as a Denver Bronco fanatic who was sentenced to work in the Bay Area.
I’m not neccessarily a Herrera fan, but if both were drowning and I had one life preserver, i’d throw it to him over Kawakami.
Al does enuff weird stuff to make fun of than having to make stuff up as Kawakami did in that article.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
MR is scum.
Go Raiders!
January 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Sounds familiar.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Herrera is the man!
January 12th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Herrara is more of a Raider than you will ever be.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
D,
Kawakami seems to be more of a guy writing to entertain and be funny then actual fact reporting. This piece seems to stay along these lines. I for one dont put it past Al Davis to be pissed that Harbaugh went to the 9ers and there is NO WAY he didnt try and get Harbaugh to coach the Raiders, so even if Kawakami had to proof, he probably isnt too far off.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Little people hate on LEGENDS.
Go Raiders!
January 12th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
It’s very simple.
Reporter (talking to Harbaugh): Have you spoken with AL Davis?
Harbaugh: Not lately.
Anybody who doesn’t have access to the inside of Al Davis’s thinking and emotional demeanor as Mr. Kawakami eveidently does, would make the logical conclusion that Al Davis was not interested in Harbaugh, or maybe, just maybe, he would have tried to talk to him about it. But he DID NOT. Mr. Kawakami obviously knows how AL Davis REALLY feels and oh how it must burn Al up that Harbaugh didn’t come to him first to beg for the job, cuz Kawakami KNOWS how AL REALLY feels of course.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Come on bro, like I said, Kawakami writes to be entertaining and funny. Hes looking for a reaction from Raider fan. Hes trying to be cute and land a gig like Rick Reilly or Plaschke. Take it in the context its meant to be.
Do you REALLY believe that Al Davis has not tried to get Harbaugh?
January 12th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
This may be old news in here, but PFT has an article that says voiding Asomughas contract may give us a compensatory draft pick.
It all depends on when, if, and how a new CBA is reached.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
525.Dude Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
D,
Kawakami seems to be more of a guy writing to entertain and be funny then actual fact reporting. This piece seems to stay along these lines. I for one dont put it past Al Davis to be pissed that Harbaugh went to the 9ers and there is NO WAY he didnt try and get Harbaugh to coach the Raiders, so even if Kawakami had to proof, he probably isnt too far off.
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“Maybe, probably”, you may be right but there is NO PROOF. The only PROOF we have is what Harbaugh said. Did Harbaugh lie? Possible, but we have no proof of that. No source cited whatsoever to support Kawakamis knowledge of the inner workings of AL’s mind and thought pattern in the matter except a documented predisposed hatred for the Raider organization and inclination to force opinion and conjecture in the face of what was actually said.
January 12th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
529.Dude Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Come on bro, like I said, Kawakami writes to be entertaining and funny. Hes looking for a reaction from Raider fan. Hes trying to be cute and land a gig like Rick Reilly or Plaschke. Take it in the context its meant to be.
Do you REALLY believe that Al Davis has not tried to get Harbaugh?
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I hear ya. Much more palatable if you take his stuff in that kind of way for sure. I think it would of made sense for Al to go after Harbaugh, but he doesn’t always do what makes sense. I just have never liked Kawakami’s smart aleky style. He really annoys me.
I’m not sure though if Al went after him THIS TIME. I know it’s documented he did a few yrs. ago.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:00 pm
I want Al to hire Marc Trestman. Whether that’s OC or HC or Asst HC + OC. Trestman has an excellent W-L career record, and has taken Montreal to three Gray Cups in a row, winning the last two.
If Trestman can be persuaded over as OC, with Hue at HC, that would be ok. But so would Trestman as HC, with Hue at OC. Trestman would have less incentive to come over as a lesser-paid assistant. However, if he can be persuaded that would be less toxic between Hue and Marc than if Marc became HC over Hue.
But whatever, I just want those two in the HC/OC roles right now.
The DC is a VERY important piece too. We’ve had one of the worst ranking defenses for about a decade now. Ryan failed, so dont bring him back. Marshall is doing ok, but he still hasnt fixed it in two years but it’s been better in year 2 than year 1.
January 12th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Sweep The Leg, as i posted at 07:20 on this blog…
GG Says…
There’s speculation based on uncertainty that with the CBA, they could put a rule in place where all FAs/UFAs become RFAs, so that there isnt a mass league-wide situation where teams have like half their teams taken away from them.
Remember, if due to the lockout/CBA, and if they bring in that rumored rule forcing all FAs/UFAs into RFAs, it would mean if say Asomugha ended up being a RFA, and we didnt match offer, we would keep draft pick compensation for him, like a 1st. And if we wanted to match offer, he would stay a Raider.
More likely that rule would relate to someone like Gallery tho. Somone who actually normally would’ve still been under contract till 2014 under the previous CBA.
January 13th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
528.GG Says:
January 12th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Sweep The Leg, as i posted at 07:20 on this blog…
GG Says…
There’s speculation based on uncertainty that with the CBA, they could put a rule in place where all FAs/UFAs become RFAs, so that there isnt a mass league-wide situation where teams have like half their teams taken away from them.
Remember, if due to the lockout/CBA, and if they bring in that rumored rule forcing all FAs/UFAs into RFAs, it would mean if say Asomugha ended up being a RFA, and we didnt match offer, we would keep draft pick compensation for him, like a 1st. And if we wanted to match offer, he would stay a Raider.
More likely that rule would relate to someone like Gallery tho. Somone who actually normally would’ve still been under contract till 2014 under the previous CBA.
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I hope this happens. It would the team tremendously.
January 13th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Help the team tremendously that is
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