UPDATED: Asomugha speaks . . . sort of
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, January 13th, 2011 at 9:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.
UPDATED WITH APPEARANCE ON ESPN’S FIRST TAKE
Nnamdi Asomugha was a panelist on ESPN’s “First Take” Friday morning and obviously made it clear with producers he wasn’t going to get into any discussions about where he might wind up as a free agent.
In the final segment, co-hosts Dan Graziano and Skip Bayless made their cases for where Asomugha should play while Asomugha listened intently. Graziano said he wanted to see Asomugha team with Darrelle Revis on the New York Jets.
Bayless made an impassioned plea for Asomugha to remain in Oakland.
“To me, you’re on the verge in Oakland of something good or maybe even something great,” Bayless said. So I say, go ahead and play the field and feel the love from everybody and get wined and dined because it’s fun to do and you’ve earned the right to do that. But in the end I want you to stay put.”
Nnamdi Asomugha spoke on the record for the first time since learning he would become an unrestricted free agent after failing to meet likely-to-be-earned incentives, choosing his words carefully in a brief interview with Jim Trotter of Sports Illustrated, who put the item on his Facebook page.
“Honestly, I’m trying not to get too caught up in it right now,” Asomugha said of his impending free agency, noting that nothing can happen until after a collective bargaining agreement is reached.
A link to Asomugha’s comments is above.
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January 13th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
BAN THE TROLLS!
January 13th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Okay, you’re gone!
January 13th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
3?
January 13th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Beep beep M fer
January 13th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
This is some messed up action man. Who knows A – Who our head coach will be. Probably Jackson but not guaranteed. B – How many free agents will we lose? C – Will there even be a season? Don’t like this at all.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
He doesn’t sound to excited to hit the market to me. But as he said it’s new to him. So we’ll see.
All I know is I don’t want to hear how loyal Nnamdi has been because he’s benefitted so much from what has happened to him so far in his careeer. He hasn’t won but everything else has been top of the line for him. Now we’ll see if he is loyal or not. I’m not saying he should be but I am saying we’ll see soon enough.
As far as this dooomsday attitude because Cable is gone I seem to remember everyone saying worse when Kiffin left. That we would never win again because we’re stuck inthe dark ages. I never saw a more imaginative offense in Raider history than what I saw last year. I also feel that Hue Jackson’s credentials are better than what I saw from Gruden before he was hired.
In some ways Hue Jaxkson remainds me of Gruden with his approach to the game. He is extremely aggressive even more so than Gruden. The offense is more explosive and has more variety. His attitude and aptitude for the game is very similar in that he understands the entire offensive package. The Oline and skill positions especially the QB position are very similar to Gruden. I’m not sure he’s as ground oriented as Gruden was but his offense has those components.
I see Hue Jackson as almost in the same mold as Gruden and Kiffin now will he have the same success as Gruden or will he challenge the authority and buck the trend like Kiffin with disregard ofr his bosses wishes.
I se Hue Jackson as a much mature and grounded man who very self assured and self sufficient. If Mr Davis and Hue can work together for the good of the team this could be a great marriage.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Well, I guess political correctness is even taking over in the U.S. now. Tried to post about that ridiculous decision by the Canadian Broadcasting Committee to ban “Money For Nothing” from radio play but the censors wouldn’t let my post go through. Wonder if this one is “allowed”?
January 13th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I think Nnamdi will stay. If he is gone, then we can use that his salary to sign more FAs. J Joseph, etc…
January 13th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
We’ll lose as many FA’s as the owner wants to lose, irregards to popular opinion Big Al aint stupid he knows exactly what he’s doing and why.
He has to get this right hiring a coach to say you have a coach hired is stupid if that coach is NOT the one YOU really want. There is no need to try to satisfy fans anxieties and the medias expectations the most important thing is to get it right………..period
January 13th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Aso has earned the right to go where he wants. Hope he stays of course. If not, anywhere but S.D. please.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
184.djohnnyg Says:
January 13th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
181.DaRayduh Says:
January 13th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
DJ, I can’t say if this is true or not, but one of my business partners in New York City said he heard from a friend that a hot-dog venor told him that Al and Jon bought some dogs together and said he saw them share a bench in Central Park eating hot-dogs. This is what the vendor told a friend of a partner of mine.
Next time I go to NYC I am going to try and find that hot-dog vendor and see if I can pick his brain.
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Please do. I trust that source more than 90% of the “experts” out there right now. He’ll tall you insecret code what you need to know. If he puts two pickles in the hot dog then it’s Hue Jackson, but if he puts on relish instead, then Al is still undecided.
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Maybe he had one of those ‘ear-shot’ radios and taped their conversation. I’ll see what I can find out, and I will pay very close attention at the condiments.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
My guess is you’re right Raider O unless Nnamdi can go where he is sure to win a ring he probably opt for the known. Charles Woodson has put up great #’s since he left but the only SB he’s played in was with the silver and black. So which memory is more precious to him?? at this point I would bet that SB appearance.
If he can get back there and win it then the move was worth it. He’s been on muc better teams than the Raiders have had since he left but still no ring.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
Woodson might get there this year. My money says the Pack take the Falcons this weekend.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Al can/ will take his time with the HC issue? Hue and the rest of the stafff can’t do much, Al can still add coaches, but he will not lose Hue and the staff since there are no more HC positions available.
Al is a smart business man, but I don’t know if that’s the best thing for the team. Smart business moves are not always the best moves for the football team IMHO.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Tom Brdy did an interview with Mike Lombardi and it was very insightful into a QB’s mental picture. He was very candid in how a QB thinks, he said the biggest thing is can he trust the reciever if he cannot he wont throw to him and he will tell the guy why he doesn’t.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
BHP,
I think Nnamdi is a defferent type of player. He is really involved n the community, he loves the bay area, and he was committed to helping the Raiders improve. He wasn’t tagged 2 years ago, but he still signed with us (and it wasn’t because of Cable).
January 13th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
15.priesttj Says:
January 13th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Tom Brdy did an interview with Mike Lombardi and it was very insightful into a QB’s mental picture. He was very candid in how a QB thinks, he said the biggest thing is can he trust the reciever if he cannot he wont throw to him and he will tell the guy why he doesn’t.
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Sounds like a pre-empted excuse for Campbell already.
January 13th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
Sir Charles left Ohio to go play in Mich, he also left the Raiders to go play in GB, but I still like the guy a lot.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
The interview has nothing to do with Campbell at all it’s an insightful interview I thought it would help some understand what a QB is thinking when he plays. Forget Campbell.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
What’s the rush to officially appoint Hue as the HC ?
One possible negative ramification would be that Hue gets ticked off and bolts.
Likelyhood of this happening ? Next to zero.
Then there’s the chance that the Raids might miss out on signing or retaining a free agent due to the delay of naming the new HC.
Chances of this happening ? Slim and next to none.
Guys, there’s no reason to panic over not extending Cable and immediately announcing his replacement.
Lechler is a helluva punter, but please don’t subscribe to his ‘the sky is falling’ perspective or the media’s doomsday prognostications and speculations.
I believe things are going to work out just fine and the Raider upswing is going to continue in 2011 (if indeed there’s a season).
But the Raids still have to find another QB.
JaJason sucks.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
JC wasn’t the problem. We were 6/7th in scoring. What killed us was our defense allowing 30+ points in 6 games. I’m not saying our offense is great, but we were great rushing (2nd), and we scored points.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
priesttj Says:
January 13th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Forget Campbell.
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At last, a post I wholeheartedly agree with.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:12 pm
What was so striking about the interview was when he said even when a guy is open if he didn’t run the right route he may not throw it to him because he wants to teach him if he keeps doing it he may end up on the bench. Most QB’s would throw it but he uses it as a teach mechanism, I thought that very interesting.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
“We’ll lose as many FA’s as the owner wants to lose, irregards to popular opinion Big Al aint stupid he knows exactly what he’s doing and why.”
Yes, he does–Big Al (actually he’s not really big in any way, now is he?) knows exactly what will salve his ego–that is the only “why” Al takes any action.
This has always been his motivator. The problem is that there was a day and an age in which he could both salve his ego AND be the owner of a winning franchise. At one time the competition was limited to shoddily-run franchises that existed as toys and tax breaks. A lot has changed. Now he is the one limited, by both money and Ego. (The money could be less of a problem if he could sell tickets, but Ego keeps sales down). “His way” no longer produces winners.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
WANT TO GET PI$$ED OFF, READ THIS:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/twitter/ci_17087407
IS ANYTHING IN OAKLAND ON THE UP & UP?
January 13th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Raider O Campbell was the problem he was the solution. He is the solution for that position until we can get someone better he is plenty good enough to win big with. That kid can play the position contrary to popular opinion.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
I’m trying to imagine JaJason not throwing to an open reciever because he ran the wrong route.
Not that hard to do.
Now I’m trying to imagine JaJason just throwing to an open reciever and hitting him.
A little more difficult.
Now I’m trying to imagine the Raiders winning a SB or even making the playoffs with JaJason at QB.
Can’t do it.
JaJason sucks.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
We need to upgrade the quarterback position and the O line. Use Aso’s money to do it.
Then we need to draft a run stuffing defensive tackle.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
JC is not a great QB, but he doesn’t have a lot of great talent around him.
Look at a guy like M Ryan, he has White, Gonzalez, Turner, and a good OL.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Wins sells tickets, who cares about tickets start winning and the rest will take care of itself.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
They’re on NFLN picking there choice of who has the most dysfuctional franchise and Mooch was first up and said ‘Oakland Raiders. They beat up on Kansas City, sweep their division, go 8-8, best they’ve looked in years and then fire MY BUDDY Tom Cable.” Then Theismann siad “I think it’s Washington”.
Surprised me to hear Theismann slam his former team and oh my dear Mike Shanahan? How could the great Mike Shanahan be the HC of the most dysfunctional franchise? No way!
Mooch was visibly ticked about Cable. I think they were good buddies like he said, but Mooch does not care if the Raiders win a single game make no mistake. I don’t know if he was a “hater” before Cable got axed, but he has no vested interest in the Raiders success he’s just mad his “buddy” is out in Oakland.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Give JaJason Matt Ryan’s supporting cast and he’d still suck.
JaJason sucks.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Yeah we need to upgrade the QB, do you have any ideas who that will be?
Saying we need to upgrade is great, get someone who can upgrade it. I think JC upgraded that position form the previous year and he;’ll upgrade it from last year as he gets better. But we wont get a Tom Brady off the streets. Get a clue will ya’?
January 13th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
The thing about these “experts” and Tom Cable is they wanna blast Al for firing him but it’s all becuz he’s “good enough for the Raiders” and no one else. Cable did this he did that but I’d loooove to hear the comments if Cable got hired in Dallas or Pittsburgh as the HC? Ohhhhh now how do you feel about him? “Well, we’re talking about Pittsburgh or Dallas here, ummmm errrr yeah Cable was great FOR THE RAIDERS but, err, ummmmm.
Yeah. What I thought.
January 13th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Priesttj Says:
January 13th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
He doesn’t sound to excited to hit the market to me. But as he said it’s new to him. So we’ll see.
All I know is I don’t want to hear how loyal Nnamdi has been because he’s benefitted so much from what has happened to him so far in his careeer. He hasn’t won but everything else has been top of the line for him. Now we’ll see if he is loyal or not. I’m not saying he should be but I am saying we’ll see soon enough.
As far as this dooomsday attitude because Cable is gone I seem to remember everyone saying worse when Kiffin left. That we would never win again because we’re stuck inthe dark ages. I never saw a more imaginative offense in Raider history than what I saw last year. I also feel that Hue Jackson’s credentials are better than what I saw from Gruden before he was hired.
In some ways Hue Jaxkson remainds me of Gruden with his approach to the game. He is extremely aggressive even more so than Gruden. The offense is more explosive and has more variety. His attitude and aptitude for the game is very similar in that he understands the entire offensive package. The Oline and skill positions especially the QB position are very similar to Gruden. I’m not sure he’s as ground oriented as Gruden was but his offense has those components.
I see Hue Jackson as almost in the same mold as Gruden and Kiffin now will he have the same success as Gruden or will he challenge the authority and buck the trend like Kiffin with disregard ofr his bosses wishes.
I se Hue Jackson as a much mature and grounded man who very self assured and self sufficient. If Mr Davis and Hue can work together for the good of the team this could be a great marriage.
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nice post priest good points
January 13th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Priest, just throwing this out there, and is not my choice, but it seems like Vince Young has cashed his check with his current team.. and might be a psycho.. but has some talent and the big arm… Al’s kind of guy?
January 13th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Here’s the thing you don’t realize Priest.
JaJason isn’t going to get better. He is who he is.
And he sucks.
Also it isn’t necessary to get a Tom Brady to upgrade over JaJason.
A healthy Gradkowski is an upgrade.
Hue Jackson knows this, even if you don’t.
Heck, even Al Davis knows this. Unless you’re naive enough to think that Al didn’t sign off on the decision to bench JaJason, not once – but twice, and that Hue didn’t have anything to do with that.
Just the fact that Hue is likely to be the next HC should tell you that JaJason is on very thin ice and would be jettisoned if a more viable option was available.
Most of the posters here have completely written Grads off. Honestly, that’s understandable.
But I’m going to go out on a limb and predict unless Gradkowski has a Stafford shoulder he’s gonna be back in 2011, and will either beat out JaJason for the starting position or replace him very early in the season.
JaJason sucks.
January 13th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Yeah he liked VY a lot coming out of college. But is he better than Campbell in terms of stability and production I would be somewhat hesitant to make that move unless he came with certain langage in his contract. The guy has quit on his team TWICE.
He wins games though but I would tend to go with a safer Campbell who IMO has great upside.
January 13th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Look Raiderman that is YOUR opinion I happen to differ with that. There is nothing you can tell me to change my mind. So stick to your comic relief and I’ll stick to football………thanks for listening.
Gradkowski is a FREAKIN JOKE FOOL get a damn clue…
January 13th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
To each his own I guess. Seems like he’d be much happier covering a different team.
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Whaddya want, cupcakes all day? You worried about his happiness? really?
January 13th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
PlunkforHOF, VY would be the classic Raider reclamation that Al loves to pull off.
No doubt VY has issues, but he’s also proven he can win in the NFL.
He’s lightyears better than JC despite his problems.
Don’t know how anyone could have watched JaJason against the Titans, Rams, Steelers, Niners and the first KC game and NOT conclude he sucks.
Then again, there are people that watched JaMoron here for 3 years and still haven’t concluded that he’s a POS.
Hell yeah, bring VY in.
Raids need to make a move.
JaJason sucks.
January 13th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
So stick to your comic relief and I’ll stick to football………thanks for listening.
Gradkowski is a FREAKIN JOKE FOOL get a damn clue…
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Snarky, snarky from the holier than thou Priesttj, Al Davis confidant.
January 13th, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Al Davis has the last job yet, any takers?
January 13th, 2011 at 11:30 pm
David Shaw, Stanford Head Coach!
I wonder what his wonderlic score was?
January 13th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
I will grant that Canpbell isn’t a great QB by any stretch but to keep vomiting up this idea about Gradkowski borders on madness. That guy has been given more chances than Steve Howe and he isn’t what a team would want in a starter……….period
I will even grant that VY is a better QB IMO than Campbell but Campbell will run a conventional offense. He can run the offense from the pocket better than VY. He reads defenses much better and is much more stabile as an individual.
Now I’ll trade Campbell in the morning for a better player if that can be done. Getting a great QB is everyones quest in the NFL. There are only 6-7 the rest of them you can throw into a grab bag from 10-20 then you have the bottom feeders.
January 13th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
# The Real D-Rac Says:
January 13th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
No one thinks of Al more than MR.
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Awww, you don’t like me picking on Al, do you? Too bad. He sucks.
January 13th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
priesttj Says:
January 13th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
I see Hue Jackson as almost in the same mold as Gruden and Kiffin
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So, you do realize Kiffin and Gruden were good coaches. That’s why you’re using them as examples of what you wish Hue was like. We’ll call it progress.
January 13th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
MR here’s a clue son take it and sleep on it and when you wake up recite 10 times. There is no time at all that I consider you as someone I want to discuss anything with…………period
January 14th, 2011 at 12:05 am
Priest…Gruden was awesome. Wasn’t he? That’s why you just held Hue to his standard.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Al has disgraced this franchise over and over again.
He’s like the drunk uncle that shows up at ever family picnic and shows his azz.
Lawsuits, moving to LA then back to Oakland, trading his HC, firing people every year, all the losing, crazy press conferences.
Its gotten real old, man.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:00 am
Where is everyone tonight?
January 14th, 2011 at 1:02 am
I have a feeling that Nnamdi will be back. This reminds me of when timmy b hit the market in the 90’s and everyone was convinced that he would go to Denver. timmy B had been critical of the organization before he hit the market and everyone said he desreved a chance to win.
On top of that the usual big fish in the FA market that drive prices up are typically Washington & Dallas: both are dysfunctional and further away from winning than Oakland is if Hue Jack is HC.
New england is the best team in football, Green bay has a young shut down corner, Jets have three good corners (counting 1st rd pick Wilson from Boise st.)
Miami & the Texans are not winners and only advantadge over raiders is the state income tax… I don’t think Nnamdi is too concenred about $ at this point.
The chargers are a joke as long as Norvel turner is the acting offensive coordinator and alex Smith is acting like a knock off Al Davis.
Nnamdi will be back in Oakland.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:02 am
AJ smith not Alex smith I meant
January 14th, 2011 at 1:05 am
The contracts of many of the other assistants, including defensive coordinator John Marshall, expire next Tuesday. Marshall could be in jeopardy after the Raiders allowed at least 30 points in six of their eight losses.
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/01/14/3323442/davis-last-again-to-find-a-coach.html#ixzz1AzyV5UwI
We should start hearing some kind of news after this happens.
I look for Rob Ryan to join the Raiders again.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:16 am
Yeah I have supported AD for a long time but I think I’m done after the Cable firing, not because Cable is a great coach but because Cable had people believing for the first time in years fans, players, heck even the press, that the Raiders were something other than toilet floaters. The great AD has been wrong wrong wrong and more wrong in the last decade than right. Heck he hasn’t even been close in ten years. HJax is a good guy and yes he has done a lot already and I wish him the best of everything!
AD has this huge shadow that blots out any sun that last season gave us. Now to have done this with all the FA this year was stupid, stupid stupid!We had a good team this year and with a little more confidence the team could have been great! No team can be great if you just knock the legs out from under them every couple of years.
The great AD will pull in Rob Ryan or some dumbass to undermine all the progress this year – it’s a freaking wonder anyone buys a ticket anymore. What smart move has AD done in ten, count them TEN years?
Not one that I can think of,…
It’s like the Tuck Rule broke him,…
January 14th, 2011 at 4:13 am
We’re still debating Gradkowski? What is wrong with you people? Nice guy, lot of heart, but nothing more than backup quality.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:04 am
To say “JaJason sucks” makes me not take you seriously. That’s just a ridiculous statement. The fact is, he is average. In every way. Grads isn’t any better and I think he showed his tru colors a bit this season in terms of his poor decision making.
I would like to bring in a QB who is better than both of them. That’s the only way we can make noise in the playoffs.
But who? Like someone said earlier good qbs are hard to come by. AD coveted VY coming out of college but do y’all really want someone known for not preparing and not studying? That type ofbehavior, IMO, earns someone the “Ja” prefix.
Let’s upgrade OL and WR and see what JC can do in year 2 with Hue.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:21 am
Sounds like Nnamdi is choosing his words carefully, to make sure not to take one dime off his table.
All this talk about him either wanting to play for a winner or taking less money to stick around here and be loyal is nonsense.
He will go to the team, that will give him the most money, like 98% of the players in this league.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:30 am
Bwahahaa
Ro-Ry as DC in Dallas LOL
January 14th, 2011 at 5:38 am
Morning nation,
I was just reading an article on LT and there was a mention of Dave Megget sent to prison 30 years for criminal sexual conduct and burglary! I never knew that little Megget was in the clink!!
January 14th, 2011 at 5:39 am
Also, I wonder if raping 16 year olds is in LT’s game Blitzed!
January 14th, 2011 at 5:43 am
What kind of hoodie is Robo wearing here?
Looks like a Jersey Shore fist-pumping deal.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/14/rob-ryan-will-interview-for-defensive-coordinator-job-in-dallas/
January 14th, 2011 at 5:56 am
Looks like Rob Ryan could end up the new DC of Dallas.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:58 am
Looks like Rob Ryan could end up the new DC of Dallas.
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Lucky them…
January 14th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!
Nnmadi right now is replaying “Should I Stay or Should I Go” by The Clash over and over again!
January 14th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Nnamdi is going on Mike and Mike in about 25 minutes
January 14th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Good morning GG,
Can you post our SB picks
January 14th, 2011 at 6:25 am
JFB, Where can one hear Mike & Mike?
January 14th, 2011 at 6:25 am
Nnamdi is going on Mike and Mike in about 25 minutes
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Mike and Mike are on ESPN?
January 14th, 2011 at 6:29 am
ESPN 2
January 14th, 2011 at 6:30 am
Who? What? When? Where? How? Al???
January 14th, 2011 at 6:30 am
He will go to the team, that will give him the most money, like 98% of the players in this league.
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Thank You!
January 14th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Priestt says…
“by the way vince young wins more games than campbell, also had a top 10 qb rating last year, a better touch down to interception ratio, lower turnover ratio, and gets sacked less often. Did I mention he wins games too?”
“But I still take JC over him. No I’m not a blind fan, why do you ask?”
January 14th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Screw Hue!
Lets do the New England thing, like KC did.
no chance of getting a GM, but this would be nice imo
HC Ryan
OC McDaniels
DC Mangini
interview Hue Jax and get the rooney rule thing out of the way …
oh yeah, hire Jeff Pitman & Ray Sherman to replace Brad Roll and Sanjay Lal too!
January 14th, 2011 at 6:34 am
The contracts of many of the other assistants, including defensive coordinator John Marshall, expire next Tuesday.
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great news, thanks 75!
January 14th, 2011 at 6:38 am
Marshall gives us the best D we’ve had here since 2002 and people can’t wait to let him go. As if it can’t get worse much easier than it can get better. Strange.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:39 am
I don’t care if Al Davis offers Nnamdi a contract for 3-years $50 million, he will NOT be a Raider next year!
He’ll probably take 4-years $40 million to play for the Chargers, Vikings or Eagles
January 14th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Marshall gives us the best D we’ve had here since 2002 and people can’t wait to let him go. As if it can’t get worse much easier than it can get better. Strange.
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Same people who want to fire Hue Jackson for taking us from 32nd in the NFL with 197 points to 6th in the NFL with 410!
January 14th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Interesting takes from Nnamdi.
First off, he is wearing a silver and black jacket, with the #24 on the side. Not sure what it is, but it looks Raider-ish.
Said that everyone listens to Shane as he is a leader of the team. Nnamdi also said that he didn’t even think it was question whether Cable was coming back or not. He thought for sure he would be here to continue on.
Seems like he didn’t want to go there as far as leaving, and was somewhat upset that it did happen. Golic was trying to get him to talk about what it is like leaving, and Nnamdi shot back that he hasn’t left yet.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:42 am
Nnamdi on with Skip Bayless a little later is going to be hilarious!
Skip laughs at the thought of Tom Cable being a head coach, so that should be interesting.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Rockstar…that may be a good idea, but there’s something about Mangini that bothers me…just something about him…
January 14th, 2011 at 6:44 am
JFB,
You forgot to mention how he knows it wasn’t a snap decision to fire Cable, as everything is looked at by “Al and the people he works with”. Said he felt confident everything was looked at, and he has moved on.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:45 am
want to fire Hue Jackson
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not giving somebody a promotion = want them to be fired?
BCZ, you’re trying to challenge me for the propaganda crown, aren’t you?
I will not give it up easily. Jhill gave it to me, but I earned it. I got plenty on McClain in my back pocket
January 14th, 2011 at 6:46 am
and Nnamdi shot back that he hasn’t left yet.
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Thats important. I dont think its a forgone conclusion that this guy is leaving just yet…
January 14th, 2011 at 6:47 am
Yup, sounded like Nnamdi thought Cable was a dead man walking apparently.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:49 am
He’ll probably take 4-years $40 million to play for the Chargers, Vikings or Eagles
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Are you totally ignoring the impending salary cap?
Eagles are not going to be able to pay Vick, Jackson, AND Nnamdi.
Why would Nnamdi go to Minny to play with Tavaris Jackson?
Nnamdi won’t stab Oakland in the back to go to SD. Just don’t see him as that type of dude. Don’t see him being a fan of that GM the way he’s treated SD players. Besides, I’ll take Jammer or Cason if they take Nnamdi as one of them will have to be cut.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:51 am
When are we going to get a player go on the record, and when asked about losing Cable, they take the opportunity to talk up Hue Jackson?
Only person who did it was Bruce Gradkowski and he is just trying to keep his gig.
Nnamdi and Shane didn’t. All the Raider tweeters (MM34, Bush, Branch, Huff) have all been silent.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Bcz24 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 6:46 am
and Nnamdi shot back that he hasn’t left yet.
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Thats important. I dont think its a forgone conclusion that this guy is leaving just yet…
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He has to keep his poker face to get the best possible contract. You can’t read into anything he’s saying right now.
He’s gone. He wants to play for a team that will use him in a way that ALLOWS him to make plays. It’s that simple.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Why would Nnamdi go to Minny to play with Tavaris Jackson?
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T-Jax is a free agent and I’m willing to bet Minny ends up with one of the following in FA or trade: Carson Palmer, Donovan McNabb or Kevin Kolb
Besides, even if they roll with the youngster Joe Webb he has Peterson, Gerhart, Rice, Harvin, Berrian, Shiancoe (good supporting cast!)
January 14th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Mike Golic is a jerk. Nnamdi is saying it’s tough to think about leaving the Raids and Golic is insistent that he’s as good as gone.
Even after Greenie corrects Golic, saying ‘he doesn’t have to leave’ and Nnamdi is nodding in agreement, Golic still arrogantly implies there’s no way Aso is coming back.
Nnamdi was the diplomat and played it cool regarding letting Cable walk. Said he was very surprised by the decision, that Lechler was entitled to his opinion, but that Davis put alot of thought into the matter. Very careful not to criticize Al.
He knows who signs his checks and is obviously keeping the door open to get some more of them. If Al wants to ante up and match or exceed competing offers theres an excellent chance Nnamdi signs again with the Raids.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:56 am
JFB…good point! I saw on twitter last night that some dude named DieHardRaiderFan tod Bush basically to F off and went on rambling that he’s gonna unfollow him and without “us” fans you’re nothing…and you can’t even answer our questions…blah, blah, blah!
Bush responded with “questions about the HC, if I’m staying, etc…I can’t answer you until a CBA is in place…and if you want to unfollow me…go ahead…
So I say kudos for Bush for that one!
January 14th, 2011 at 6:56 am
not giving somebody a promotion = want them to be fired?
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Well Hue, at the very least, is under contract to be our Offensive Coordinator, so please tell me under this situation that you have promoted:
HC Ryan
OC McDaniels
DC Mangini
Where our contracted Offensive Coordinator fits in? Seems to me he was not retained, or in other words FIRED.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:56 am
NY Jets have Revis and Cromartie
GB just signed their young SB opposite Woodson to a big deal.
Pittsburgh maybe ?????
January 14th, 2011 at 6:59 am
He’s gone. He wants to play for a team that will use him in a way that ALLOWS him to make plays. It’s that simple.
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Like Revis????
Another guy who had zero picks this year because teams just avoid them.
Nnamdi is going to be in the same situation no matter where he goes. QBs are not going to all of a sudden start throwing the ball his way.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:00 am
LOL!
Nnamdi with the wardrobe change, now suited and booted for his battle with Skip.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:00 am
And shame on us (i.e. Al) for being so damn simple and predictable on defense. It’s ridiculous. Nnamdi leaving will be Al’s fault. Face it people. He’s gone.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:00 am
BCZ,
perhaps Jackson & McDaniels can coexist as OC & Passing Game Coordinator?
Hue Jax could use some help in that dept anyways, since we finished 23rd and Dungver finished 7th!
January 14th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Besides, even if they roll with the youngster Joe Webb he has Peterson, Gerhart, Rice, Harvin, Berrian, Shiancoe (good supporting cast!)
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Better chance to make the playoffs in Silver and Black in the TERRIBLE AFC West.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:03 am
J Hill Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 6:59 am
He’s gone. He wants to play for a team that will use him in a way that ALLOWS him to make plays. It’s that simple.
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Like Revis????
Another guy who had zero picks this year because teams just avoid them.
Nnamdi is going to be in the same situation no matter where he goes. QBs are not going to all of a sudden start throwing the ball his way.
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Wrong. That simply means the Jets wouldn’t be a good fit. And Revis had WAY more balls thrown at him this year than Nnamdi.
The Jets and Revis are besides the point. Nnamdi has made NO secret that he envies how the Packers use Charles Woodson. That is exactly the type of situation he wants, which was my original point.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:03 am
Nnamdi Asomugha on playing for the Raiders:
“It’s like being a garbage man. The work stinks, but it pays good”
January 14th, 2011 at 7:04 am
If Carolina offers Nnamdi the most money, good chance he goes there.
If Al offers the most money, or very close to it, I think he will stay.
It will be this simple.
Ideally for the Raiders, there will be no CBA before the draft, so they can see what happens DB wise in the draft before having to make a decision on Nnamdi.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Hue Jax could use some help in that dept anyways, since we finished 23rd and Dungver finished 7th!
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Thats like saying we have the 2nd best pass defense in football because everyone runs on us. Denver had the 7th ranked pass offense because they passed the ball more than 70% of the time! Oh… and their WRs catch the ball, important fact.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:09 am
If Carolina offers Nnamdi the most money, good chance he goes there.
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JFB,
Rivera ran a 4-3 in Chicago and a 3-4 in SD
what do you think he’ll do with the Panthers D?
I think John Marshall would be an excellent fit there to replace Ron Meeks as DC
January 14th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Train,
What teams do you see on Nnamdi’s radar?
And you can’t possibly think that $ isn’t a top priority for Nnamdi as well as the playoffs?
Only team I can POSSIBLY see is Pitts.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Need a clarification on a few things.
First, can a FA sign with another team without a new CBA being in place ?
I think the answer to this is no, which means alot of players are going to be in limbo until an agreement is reached. If the agreement is reached with only days or weeks remaining before the 2011 season there’s going to be pandemonium. Also, how does this impact the signing of draft picks ?
Second, I know Adams has stated VY will not be back in Tenn. But I don’t think they released him. Is VY going to be a FA or will he have to be traded for ?
January 14th, 2011 at 7:12 am
Thats like saying we have the 2nd best pass defense in football because everyone runs on us.
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McDaniels turned Orton & Lloyd from scrubs to studs!
and whats with the jab at the Raiders Run D?
your boy ROMAC has it under control, no?
Hue Jackson made it clear that Gradkowski & Heyward-Bey were “his guys” and what did they do? I’ll wait
January 14th, 2011 at 7:14 am
I think it’s funny that everybody in here assumes two things
#1 Nnamdi will go to the highest bidder
#2 other teams can’t afford him
LOL!
January 14th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Need a clarification on a few things.
First, can a FA sign with another team without a new CBA being in place ?
I think the answer to this is no, which means alot of players are going to be in limbo until an agreement is reached. If the agreement is reached with only days or weeks remaining before the 2011 season there’s going to be pandemonium. Also, how does this impact the signing of draft picks ?
Second, I know Adams has stated VY will not be back in Tenn. But I don’t think they released him. Is VY going to be a FA or will he have to be traded for ?
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There can be NO free agent signings until a collective bargaining agreement is reached.
VY has NOT been released, the soonest he could be is 2/7/11 The day after the Superbowl (this is to prevent him from signing with a playoff team). The Titans will try to get something in trade for him, but no one will bite because they have already said they will release him.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:15 am
—-SB LIST—-
Thec07 – Pats vs Eagles
GG – Chiefs vs Packers
SilverNBlackPA – Pats vs Falcons
Dirt-Lot Football – Pats vs Falcons
Hwnrdr – Steelers vs Falcons
860Todd Christensen – Pats vs Eagles
Plunketthead – Colts vs Packers
Carl Weathers – Ravens vs Bears
Midwest Fan – Steelers vs Packers
Just Fire Baby – Pats vs Saints
Raiderzmaverick – Pats vs Bears
CanuckRaider – Steelers vs Saints
January 14th, 2011 at 7:16 am
I’m not sure. A lot of teams are gonna offer him a lot of money, and they r all gonna tell him what he wants to hear as far as scheme, etc. And yeah ur right he’s gonna want to go to at least a .500 team. Eagles come to mind..
But with all the CBA stuff, who knows who can afford what? I certainly don’t.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:17 am
At least I tipped the correct result in the Seahawks-Saints game! I’ll take that, lol.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Nnamdi just told Skip that it’s wrong to keep your best cover corner on one side of the field. Offense doesn’t even have to look at him
January 14th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Ravens vs Packers
January 14th, 2011 at 7:19 am
and whats with the jab at the Raiders Run D?
your boy ROMAC has it under control, no?
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When did you enroll in the RealMaddenRaider class on twisting crap around…
Orton is a stud? Ok. Didnt he get benched for a guy who was thought to be a better fullback then QB?
January 14th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Nnamdi was on Mike and Mike this morning. Golic was trying to make it sound like Nnamdi would be leaving the Raiders and Nnamdi (and the other Mike) corrected him and said he could still remain with Oakland.
Glimmer of hope?
January 14th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Pats vs Pack in the SB
January 14th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Glimmer of hope?
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If you were any later with your comments you would have to change your name to FEMA…
LOL
We discussed that like 20 minutes ago Dakota! Hahaha…
January 14th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Nnamdi just told Skip that it’s wrong to keep your best cover corner on one side of the field.
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Al Davis just closed his checkbook and got Stan Routt’s agent on the phone
January 14th, 2011 at 7:25 am
When did you enroll in the RealMaddenRaider class on twisting crap around…
Orton is a stud? Ok. Didnt he get benched for a guy who was thought to be a better fullback then QB?
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comparing me to other bloggers is not a response to my question.
Orton & Tebow are both better QB’s than Hue’s guy Bruce Gradkowski
on to the next topic or are you gonna start in with the name calling?
January 14th, 2011 at 7:25 am
—-SB LIST—-
——12 Teams Alive——
Thec07 – Pats vs Eagles
GG – Chiefs vs Packers
SilverNBlackPA – Pats vs Falcons
Dirt-Lot Football – Pats vs Falcons
Hwnrdr – Steelers vs Falcons
860Todd Christensen – Pats vs Eagles
Plunketthead – Colts vs Packers
Carl Weathers – Ravens vs Bears
Midwest Fan – Steelers vs Packers
Just Fire Baby – Pats vs Saints
Raiderzmaverick – Pats vs Bears
CanuckRaider – Steelers vs Saints
—–8 Teams Alive—–
JonTrain – Ravens vs Packers
Bcz24 – Pats vs Packers
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January 14th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Hue’s guy Bruce Gradkowski
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Hue didnt bring in Bruce. He just did the best with what he had, and he turned us into a top 6 scoring offense with garbage QBs and WRs that cant catch anything but hamstring injuries. I say he should be nominated for coach of the year for being able to score 410 points WITHOUT throwing the ball.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Bcz24, sounds right and confirms what I thought. Thanks.
If the CBA is reached shortly before the start of the 2011 season, there’s going to be mayhem.
I can easily envision a scenario where the 4 pre-season games get cancelled due to lack of a CBA and an 18 game regular season comes into play (even though the players won’t like it) when an agreement is eventually reached.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:30 am
GG –
I want to say Pats vs Packers, but since BCZ already has that locked down I’ll take Atlanta & New England
January 14th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Ok i got it down, will post list later if i get more predictions
January 14th, 2011 at 7:32 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:29 am
I can easily envision a scenario where the 4 pre-season games get cancelled due to lack of a CBA and an 18 game regular season comes into play (even though the players won’t like it) when an agreement is eventually reached.
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co-sign
January 14th, 2011 at 7:33 am
112.JONTRAIN Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Nnamdi just told Skip that it’s wrong to keep your best cover corner on one side of the field. Offense doesn’t even have to look at him
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What he actually said was it’s wrong to keep a talent like Revis man’d up against Welker as Brady would always know where he is.
Nnamdi said he should be on everyone.
Said if it were him talking to his coordinator, he would want to cover moe than one WR.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:34 am
If the CBA is reached shortly before the start of the 2011 season, there’s going to be mayhem.
I can easily envision a scenario where the 4 pre-season games get cancelled due to lack of a CBA and an 18 game regular season comes into play (even though the players won’t like it) when an agreement is eventually reached.
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There are over 500 unrestricted free agents this season (under the old CBA rules, could change but not likely). 18 game season will, under NO circumstances play a part in the 2011 season. The soonest that would occur would be 2012. If a CBA is reached shortly before the start of the new season, the start may be postponed by a week to allow for an abbreviated free agency period. Some have said free agency could be cancelled but I could see some players taking great issue to that!
January 14th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Hue didnt bring in Bruce. He just did the best with what he had
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Hue wanted Bruce to start over Jason Campbell, which in hindsight could have been the difference between being a playoff team & not
who benches thier best QB 3 times and starts a liability like DHB at WR?
Hue’s QB’s in Washington were Patrick Ramsey & Tim Hasselbeck. His QB’s in Atlanta were Byron Leftwich & Joey Harrington. Hue played QB himself for U.O.P. in Stockton, CA (yet the guy is still friggin clueless when it comes to passing)
and before you start in with the crap about Hue Jax coaching up Joe Flacco, that holds about as much water as Sanjay Lal coaching up Jacoby Ford. You either have a talented football player or you don’t. It’s that simple
January 14th, 2011 at 7:39 am
J Hill Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:33 am
112.JONTRAIN Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:18 am
Nnamdi just told Skip that it’s wrong to keep your best cover corner on one side of the field. Offense doesn’t even have to look at him
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What he actually said was it’s wrong to keep a talent like Revis man’d up against Welker as Brady would always know where he is.
Nnamdi said he should be on everyone.
Said if it were him talking to his coordinator, he would want to cover moe than one WR.
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He said you gotta “move Revis around” Same difference. Not worth arguing about.
Clearly he has a problem with how Raiders have used him. My point this morning has been that this is reason number 1 why he will leave, regardless of how much money Al pays him
January 14th, 2011 at 7:42 am
I always had the feeling that those reports of Hue wanting Bruce over JC in the STL game were bogus. Bruce was always Cable’s guy based on last year. Logically, Hue had no reason to bench JC just 6 quarters in to the season. He had no experience with Grads (remember he was hurt during much of the offseason)
I also tend to believe the reports of Cable and Hue not seeing eye to eye. Cable felt threatened by him, and rightfully so.
Cable flip flopped over and over in regards to the QB, which is part of the reason he is gone.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Who starts a liability like DHB at WR?
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Someone who works for Al Davis and is emminately aware of his preferences. Its called job security.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:46 am
He said you gotta “move Revis around” Same difference. Not worth arguing about.
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Dude, your really dont think that the opposing qbs are going to locate Nnamdi and Revis and ignore them, regardless of where they line up? Im going to submit that to ESPN.
C’Mon Man.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:48 am
JONTRAIN Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:42 am
I always had the feeling that those reports of Hue wanting Bruce over JC in the STL game were bogus. Bruce was always Cable’s guy based on last year. Logically, Hue had no reason to bench JC just 6 quarters in to the season. He had no experience with Grads (remember he was hurt during much of the offseason)
I also tend to believe the reports of Cable and Hue not seeing eye to eye. Cable felt threatened by him, and rightfully so.
Cable flip flopped over and over in regards to the QB, which is part of the reason he is gone.
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I tend to agree. What Hue did early in the year was present a show of solidarity to the media. That doesnt mean d!ck behind closed doors.
Grads may be Hues guy. Only time will tell. WHEN Hue is named HC we will have to pay attention to his roster moves to be sure.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:49 am
128.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:37 am
and before you start in with the crap about Hue Jax coaching up Joe Flacco, that holds about as much water as Sanjay Lal coaching up Jacoby Ford. You either have a talented football player or you don’t. It’s that simple
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If coaching doesn’t matter, then why are you biotching about Hue so much?
January 14th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Someone who works for Al Davis and is emminately aware of his preferences. Its called job security.
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BCZ,
in other words, Hue Jackson is a puppet.
so then whats the difference between Cable & Jackson again next year and whatever we end up with?
January 14th, 2011 at 7:51 am
and before you start in with the crap about Hue Jax coaching up Joe Flacco,
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Look at how Flacco played under Hue in the playoffs and how he played last week.
Will be interesting to see if Flacco takes that leap this weekend against the Steelers.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Yeah, I’m sure our timeout co-ordinator had the ability to go over both Hue’s and Al’s head to start Bruce not once, but twice, even after he went 0-2 in his first two starts.
Get a clue!!! Cable said it was Hue’s offense, I’m sure that was determined by Al ahead of time, and Hue pulled the switch for Bruce.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:54 am
If coaching doesn’t matter, then why are you biotching about Hue so much?
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Dakota,
are you suddenly one of those guys that thinks Hue Jax discovered Darren McFadden?
DMAC was ALREADY our best RB, but it took a year or two for Al Davis to end his love affair with Justin Fargas. McFadden didn’t have turf two on both feet and a shoulder injury this year either. McFadden also took it upon himself to go to some football camp last offseason, working on his own game
January 14th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Bcz24 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:46 am
He said you gotta “move Revis around” Same difference. Not worth arguing about.
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Dude, your really dont think that the opposing qbs are going to locate Nnamdi and Revis and ignore them, regardless of where they line up? Im going to submit that to ESPN.
C’Mon Man.
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That’s not what I mean at all. Of course if you have one DB who is clearly the best playing man to man, or even zone, you can avoid him, if you choose.
My point is this: you gotta make the opposing QB think. For instance, in GB, CWood often lines up in the slot and either covers the slot receiver, drops into a free roam type zone in the shallow middle, or blitzes. You never know. That’s called “mixing it up”, which is the exact opposite of what the Raiders have done with Nnnamdi.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:58 am
I wonder what Nnamdi & Huff would say if Al Davis told them to choose between Ryan & Jackson ???
January 14th, 2011 at 8:00 am
in other words, Hue Jackson is a puppet.
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Yup… AND, in other words RaiderRockstar has become the top scoring graduate in the RMR School of Spinning!
January 14th, 2011 at 8:02 am
That’s called “mixing it up”, which is the exact opposite of what the Raiders have done with Nnnamdi.
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True, Green Bay also has had the luxury of a better secondary around CWood as well. Nnamdi is ignored (regardless of where he may line up) because the path of least resistance is around him. We STILL gave up 29 TD passes this year. Lets not forget that Charles Woodson played in the same system as Nnamdi and he made plays.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:03 am
BCZ,
I learned to spin from DJ Wiggle, aka Jhill
but thats beside the point. you clearly have run out of things to debate. It has been obvious since you began pulling 1 sentence to argue about in my 3 paragraph posts
It’s cool. I know you’re a stand up guy … even if you are a Hue Jackson boot licker
January 14th, 2011 at 8:06 am
I pull one sentence because I dont feel its necessary to address ALL of your drivel, nor is it necessary to pollute the blog with GIGANTIC posts. Thought you would have given up trying to beat me after the 140 point FF thrashing I gave ya…
January 14th, 2011 at 8:11 am
It’s cool. I know you’re a stand up guy … even if you are a Hue Jackson boot licker
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Im not really a Hue boot licker… but lets look at the facts. Do you really think there is any reason we improved by 3 games over last year that is MORE relevent than the fact that we learned how to score touchdowns? I dont. If Hue is soley in charge of the offense, a fact you love to point out when reminding us of negative things like the QB carousel and DHB, then you absolutely have to give him credit for getting us in the end zone!
January 14th, 2011 at 8:11 am
Thought you would have given up trying to beat me after the 140 point FF thrashing I gave ya…
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ZIINNGGEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
January 14th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Hue deserves the most credit for moving the ball between the twenties as well as we did at times.
We were at the top of the league in rushing and first downs, but near the bottom in 3rd down conversion and Seabass lead the entire NFL in FG attempts under 35 yards.
Of course, I hang that on Soup and our passing game. 3rd and 8’s, and converting TD’s with a shorter field (in the red zone) are not their strengths at all.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Thought you would have given up trying to beat me after the 140 point FF thrashing I gave ya…
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Aaron Rodgers got hurt man. You’re REALLY gonna go there?
You must think pretty highly of him too, to predict him leading GB to the Super Bowl!
I gave you your props for that, but that doesn’t make you right about EVERYTHING … and it’s funny thats you’re gloating about Dell’s FF league when just a few months ago you admitted not caring about it. (before winning) You focused more on your “other” league, remember?
January 14th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Good morning fellas.
I see Nnamdi’s on First take. Missed the first hour. Did he have any comments on his situation?
Right now they are talking this weekends playoff matchups.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:20 am
lets look at the facts. Do you really think there is any reason we improved by 3 games over last year that is MORE relevent than the fact that we learned how to score touchdowns? I dont.
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Al Davis gets the credit.
He kicked Russell, Fargas, Walker, Watkins, Stewart, Green, Morris, etc TO THE CURB!
then he drafted Ford & Veldheer and traded for Campbell
it wouldn’t matter if Tollner was the OC last year, we weren’t going to finish worse than 8-8
January 14th, 2011 at 8:22 am
and it’s funny thats you’re gloating about Dell’s FF league when just a few months ago you admitted not caring about it.
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Didnt say I didnt care about it Spin-master flex. I said I didnt pay as much attention to it as my other league. It was true.
And dont tell me you think Aaron Rodgers was gonna score you 140…
Its all in good fun dude. I just like bickering with you because we share such different views on things, AND you are USUALLY reasonable enough to argue with, without me wanting to throw my computer out the window!
January 14th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Spin-master flex?
LOVE IT!
“you are USUALLY reasonable enough to argue with, without me wanting to throw my computer out the window!”
hey man, I haven’t said anything positive about Cable, Higgins or Morrison in at least a week. You gotta give me something for that
January 14th, 2011 at 8:26 am
it wouldn’t matter if Tollner was the OC last year, we weren’t going to finish worse than 8-8
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Then why is Hue even being considered for the HC position? He IS responsible for our crappy (improved over the time when he WASNT here) passing game, is NOT responsible for the improvement in any other area, and single handedly cost us the playoffs by benching JC in week 2. Seems to me like he should have been swept out with Cable!
Oh. YOU sir can not give props to Jacoby Ford for anything. We got him because of trading Captain Kirk. We wouldnt have Ford if you had YOUR way.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Bcz24 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 8:02 am
That’s called “mixing it up”, which is the exact opposite of what the Raiders have done with Nnnamdi.
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True, Green Bay also has had the luxury of a better secondary around CWood as well. Nnamdi is ignored (regardless of where he may line up) because the path of least resistance is around him. We STILL gave up 29 TD passes this year. Lets not forget that Charles Woodson played in the same system as Nnamdi and he made plays.
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Good point. But I wonder if we mixed up our coverages more, would our secondary play better or worse? In other words, if we weren’t stuck in the 70’s scheme wise, would we be giving up 29 TD passes?
January 14th, 2011 at 8:29 am
Oh. YOU sir can not give props to Jacoby Ford for anything. We got him because of trading Captain Kirk. We wouldnt have Ford if you had YOUR way.
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my way?
I would have kept Kirk and drafted Ford instead of that waste of space Bruce Campbell!
January 14th, 2011 at 8:31 am
My point this morning has been that this is reason number 1 why he will leave, regardless of how much money Al pays him
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Nnamdi played the #1 WR for most of the season, just like he asked to this offseason.
Nnamdi will go somewhere else because he wants to win, IMO.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:31 am
if we weren’t stuck in the 70’s scheme wise, would we be giving up 29 TD passes?
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Does a falling tree make noise if no one is around.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Of course Hue pulled JaJason for Grads.
How could he not have ?
JaJason absolutely bombs in Tenn. He’s tipping off plays, taking a knee on a live play, pansy sliding 2 yards short of an attainable first down, and the Raids get blown out.
Next up is the 1-15 Rams at home, and JaJason is still stinking the joint up. The offense can’t do squat with him. If the Raids lose this game at home to the worst team in the NFL the previous year, the season is over before it even had a chance to get started.
Rightfully, JaJason gets the hook, Grads comes in, suddenly there’s life and the Raids win.
What was Hue supposed to do ? Stick with JaJason and lose to the Rams at home ? And please don’t tell me JaJason would have won that game in the 2nd half.
Don’t forget, Hue had the benefit of seeing JaJason in practice as well. Hue has the advantage of knowing if JaJason knew the entire playbook (he admitted he didn’t). Hue got to see the pre-season game against SF when Grads noticebly outplayed JaJason. Too bad Grads wasn’t available against SF in the regular season as JaJason got the chance to stink it up again and cost the Raids that game.
People that criticize Hue for yanking JaJason the first time are out of their minds.
Giving Bruce the start against Miami was the wrong thing to do. Not because JaJason had done anything to claim the starting position or given any indication he was better than Grads – it was a mistake only because Grads clearly wasn’t 100%. Grads shouldn’t have even attempted to play and Hue should have known his shoulder still wasn’t right.
I’ll say it again, even though no one believes it…a healthy Grads will beat out JaJason again if they’re both on the roster. If BG doesn’t have a Matt Stafford shoulder condition, he’ll take the starting slot from JaJason again, with Hue’s approval.
Not because Bruce is necessarily the next Drew Brees, but because…
JaJason sucks.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:35 am
why is Hue even being considered for the HC position?
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#1 because he’s on the current staff
#2 because he’s an offensive coach & play caller
#3 because he wants the job
“Seems to me like he should have been swept out with Cable!”
If it works out that way, so be it. I’m willing to give him another year as OC, but NOT a promotion. If he maintains our already good rushing attack and gets our Passing Game to Top 12 or 15 then I’ll consider a promotion. I’d like to see if he plays QB switcheroo again and either gets something out of DHB in Year #3 (when most receivers start to “get it”) or benches him
January 14th, 2011 at 8:38 am
J Hill Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 8:31 am
My point this morning has been that this is reason number 1 why he will leave, regardless of how much money Al pays him
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Nnamdi played the #1 WR for most of the season, just like he asked to this offseason.
Nnamdi will go somewhere else because he wants to win, IMO.
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That only happened once. Against AZ. Check the tape.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Get a clue!!! Cable said it was Hue’s offense, I’m sure that was determined by Al ahead of time, and Hue pulled the switch for Bruce.
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Huh?
Al wanted Bruce?
Maybe so since he still had a key to the facility.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:40 am
That only happened once. Against AZ. Check the tape
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yeah, I know in Week 17 Routt was covering Dwayne Bowe 90 % of the time
January 14th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Folks like to rip on Cable for benching JC in the St. Louis game cuz it screwed up the continuity etc. but you have to remember where we were at that point in the season.
We just came off a thumping against Tenn to open what was supposed to be the season we turn it around. You are losing to a team that went 1-15 the prior year and you’re at home. Your offense is doing NOTHING and your QB looks awful. The very real risk of going 0-2 to start the year is very real at that point and talk about HOT SEAT for Cable???
If he doesn’t put Grads in WE LOSE PERIOD!
I can’t vouch for the other changes with QB, but that one had to be done.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Didn’t Nnamdi just shadow Reggie Wayne?
And I said most of the season, not all. Coming back off that ankle injury, we didn’t see it as much. But prior to the ankle injury, Nnamdi was all over the place.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:44 am
He was lined up against Wayne a lot only because ironically, the Colts use Wayne almost exclusively on the left side.
Nnamdi didn’t shadow anybody this year except L Fitz. That’s it. It drove me nuts.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:45 am
If he doesn’t put Grads in WE LOSE PERIOD!
I can’t vouch for the other changes with QB, but that one had to be done.
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we were down 7-3 at halftime!
LOL
McFadden wouldn’t run wild and set up the play action pass with JCamp in the game?
the defense made some adjustments at halftime to completely shut down Steven Jackson in the second half too.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:46 am
It sure seemed like Nnamdi took offense to Skip Bayless’ disbelief that Seattle could lose to Oakland 33-3. I think Nnam’s still a Raider at heart.
I may be being a little overly optimistic, but I think he’s coming back, for several reasons.
First, he’s a Cal guy. he has deep roots in the community. Very active in the community. I think he takes that stuff very serioulsy. It’s personal to him.
Secondly, He defenitely won’t have a shortage of offers. He’ll probably make the rounds and listen to what some teams have to say. Might be a tough call for him, but ultimately I don’t think anybody will be willing to outbid Al.
In Madden’s books he mentioned an ongoing debate he had with Davis. they both agreed that QB was obviously the most important position on a football team. Big John though an OT to protect the QB’s blindside was next Priority. Al Davis thought a shutdown corner was second only to QB in value to a football team.
Al has arguably the best corner in football on his team. I don’t believe anybody is going to outbid him for #21’s services. I just hope it doesn’t take 16 mil per. It shouldn’t.
Finally, Nnamdi can resign in Oakland without losing any face. he might take some heat, but it’s not like Oakland was 4-12 last year. He can legitimately say ..hey we were right in the thick of things last year…and I don’t want to bail on my teammates when we are right on the cusp of winning the division.
Nnamdi can cash Al’s big checks and look himself in the mirror and honestly feel like he’s doing the right thing. He could ultimately bolt to New England and try to win him a quick, cheap ring…But He doesn’t seem like that type of guy to me.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:47 am
RRS,
Did you ever get an answet to how Al allows his QB to be benched but not DHB?
January 14th, 2011 at 8:47 am
I have been a Raiders fan for 40 freaking years and for the last 8 years, A.D. has been pissing me off. Six coaches in that time span is insane. The Pittsburgh Steelers had 4 coaches in the last 40 years and that’s why they are in the playoffs just about every year. I now live on the east coast and it is embarrassing when I tell people that I am a Raider fan but I still stand tall and represent.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Raiderman,
even though you are correct in a lot about what you say about JC, there’s just no reason to think that it was Hue that pulled Grads against STL. Hue’s seat wasn’t hot. Cable’s was. Hue knew that the HC job was potentially his the day he signed on. No way he rocks the boat with Al that early on.
I agreed with the decision to pull JC out of that game. It was the right thing to do at the time. But it was Cable’s call, not Hue.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:49 am
The RAiders have the highest payroll and not much to show for it. With 27 free agents maybe its time to purge this roster.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:49 am
For a QB who had twice as many games (4) throwing for less than 150 yards than he did throwing for more than 300 yards (2 games) we sure spend a lot of time talking about Campbell.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:50 am
FYI, what happened three months ago in a halftime adjustment is of no consequence. You do what you have to do to win any given Sunday.
A QB is stinking it up, put in a reliever.
A RB is fumbling, put in another.
A PR is fielding punts at the three, put in someone else.
A WR is dropping passes, go to another WR.
None of it means anything 100 days later except to semi-pros with a lot of time on their hands.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Al wanted Bruce?
Maybe so since he still had a key to the facility.
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Al Davis doesn’t have a fascination for 6th round injury prone QB’s with noodle arms
sorry – not buying that one. Grads was a Paul Hackett connection from Tampa Bay and our best QB in 2009 (compared to Russell & Frye, whoopie!)
ALL players have a key to the facility, impending free agent or not
January 14th, 2011 at 8:51 am
GG Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:25 am
—-SB LIST—-
——12 Teams Alive——
Thec07 – Pats vs Eagles
GG – Chiefs vs Packers
SilverNBlackPA – Pats vs Falcons
Dirt-Lot Football – Pats vs Falcons
Hwnrdr – Steelers vs Falcons
860Todd Christensen – Pats vs Eagles
Plunketthead – Colts vs Packers
Carl Weathers – Ravens vs Bears
Midwest Fan – Steelers vs Packers
Just Fire Baby – Pats vs Saints
Raiderzmaverick – Pats vs Bears
CanuckRaider – Steelers vs Saints
—–8 Teams Alive—–
JonTrain – Ravens vs Packers
Bcz24 – Pats vs Packers
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Redneck Raider – Ravens vs Falcons
January 14th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Packers v. Patriots
Pats win again.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Marshall tried a lot of different defenses early in the year. It was the talk of the board, for one reason or another. Mostly, the blown zone coverage by the secondary. At some point in the year, don’t recall exactly when, seems like Marshall just said F it, man up.
Our execution of the zone was terrible man.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Did you ever get an answer to how Al allows his QB to be benched but not DHB?
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Jhill,
Nope. I did get labeled ‘Spin-master flex’ though!
January 14th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Skip Bayles….Wow!
January 14th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Rockstar,
do you realize how improbable it is to have both a top 10 run offense and a top 10 pass offense?
If you do one really well, you usually don’t even ATTEMPT the other one often enough to put up big numbers both ways.
Also, a top-10 defense that gets off the field often would help that.
All we want is points. Hue gets us points. I don’t care if it’s through a top-ranked run game, a top-ranked pass game, or a mix of both that makes neither top-ranked.
It’s points.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:56 am
RR,
Are you trolling? You had a lot of practice the last few weeks. lol
January 14th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Our execution of the zone was terrible man.
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didn’t Marsh know these guys are brainwashed in Al’s system?
that secondary was AWFUL against San Fran & Jax!
January 14th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Nnamdi’s taking his talents to South Beach…lol.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Lonetree,
but when what happened week 2 happened again 3 more times in the year, it becomes a pattern.
Hue knows JC isn’t the answer.
As some have said, that might be the best thing that comes out of HJ being named the HC.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Skip Bayless was pretty good just now.
Gave Nnamdi a nice speech about why he should stay with the Raids.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:59 am
I love Skip!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Bayless nailed it!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Ravens vs Falcons. Ravens in the SB gets Seabass in the Pro Bowl.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Nnamdi resigned 2 years ago!!!! We didn’t tag him, and we had no problems signing him to a new contract with 5-11 record.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Somebody recap what Skip/Aso said for me please?
January 14th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Bayless was pretty spot on about Tom Cable, so I am not surprised that he sees good things coming for Oakland now that Cable is out of the way.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:03 am
178.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Did you ever get an answer to how Al allows his QB to be benched but not DHB?
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Jhill,
Nope. I did get labeled ‘Spin-master flex’ though!
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When folks get try and distract the argument with various forms of name calling, it simply means they are running outta material, lol.
It just amazes me that the coach could have the “power” to play musical chairs at QB and LT, but is “forced” to play DHB.
LMFAO!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Competant coach + talented team = playoffs.
Now we just to convince Al not to hire Rob Ryan.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Skip basically said that Oakland is on the verge of great things and Nnamdi needs to finish what he started. Said Rob Ryan or Hue would be pretty good HCs for us.
Said Nnamdi LOVES Al Davis. Has paid him a lot of $ and treated him so well, yada yada …
Nnamdi shaking his head in agreement the whole time even said you are 100% correct on the AL Davis points.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Rob Ryan will never be a HC in the NFL! Print that!!!!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:09 am
I’m still on my Rob Ryan limb!
I’d take him as the HC all day long. Pretty sure he could bring in a legit DC and he can run his 3-4 defense with man coverage on the outside.
Would also be looking forward to the circus on this blog when he ok’s the Jamarcus Russell reclamation project, lol!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Wow, go Skip.
So is Al waiting for a playoff game to announce a head coach? Al likes to do stuff in prime time.
Wonder if Nnamdi would go somewhere where they would set him free, allow him to make more plays, play the best WR every play, etc.
To me more than money or a ’sure contender,’ I would imagine Nnamdi wants to spread his wings.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:10 am
do you realize how improbable it is to have both a top 10 run offense and a top 10 pass offense?
If you do one really well, you usually don’t even ATTEMPT the other one often enough to put up big numbers both ways.
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Alex,
first off I said TOP 15 passing offense, not 10.
better play calling and personnel usage (benching DHB) could have us better than 23rd. Perhaps you could blame player execution, but the only free agents at QB & WR next year are Grads, Boller, Higgins & Nmiller
why didn’t we play a lineman at FB and have Reece play TE when Zmiller was hurt? or use B Myers more?
I’m think we’ll have 4 new starters on the OL this year, which could be very good or very bad. Get the right OL Coach and players to fit the system and that could be the difference in jumping 8 spots in Passing O if we could also get WR drops under control!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Huff, Nnamdi, and Seymour will all be back.
We will finish what we started!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:11 am
It just amazes me that the coach could have the “power” to play musical chairs at QB and LT, but is “forced” to play DHB.
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Hey hey hey… I wasnt running out of material when I called him spin-master flex! Im not RMR or KK. I got material for days. I was just breakin Rocks chops and he knows it.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:12 am
In case any of you weren’t paying attention (happens when your mind is already made up one way or another), after the Pitts debacle, JaSoup played quite well every single subsequent Sunday. The process of getting better and more comfortable as the season progressed. Ain’t that how it is supposed to work out?
(And F^7k Cable for playing his Boy-toykowski against the ‘Fins. A firing offense right there.)
January 14th, 2011 at 9:16 am
I don’t understand the JC hatred that happens here, he’s by far the QB the Raiders have had since Gannon. The Raiders have had some pretty piss poor QBs since then. Everyone of them is selling cars right now and NOT in the NFL. ( At least I don’t think so)
January 14th, 2011 at 9:17 am
4 new starters on the OL?
I think Walker comes back. He’s a power blocker.
I think most of next year’s starters were on the team this year.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:18 am
We have to sign:
1- Nnamdi
2- Seymour
3- Z Miller
4- Wimbley
5- Gallery
6- Bush
7- Huff (he is our best cover S, but we have 3 young Ss who show potential)
January 14th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Kerry Collins is selling cars?
January 14th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Jhill,
also if Hue Jax was forced to play DHB I highly doubt he would have said the youngster is capable of an eight catch game for 224 yards and three touchdowns and that it’s around the corner!
He also said that DHB wasn’t dropping balls!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Im not RMR or KK.
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Wasn’t saying that at all.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Competant coach + talented team = playoffs.
Now we just to convince Al not to hire Rob Ryan.
++++++++++++++++
This.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Please remember the fact that our 23rd ranked passing offense was DEFINITELY hampered by Tom Cable’s Olines inability to pass block. Both of our QBs were smacked around all season, and that did play a part in our rankings.
As far as DHB, I have never been questioned as to how Hue could bench Campbell but not DHB, but I could take some guesses.
1. DHBs shoddy performance is far less consequential than Campbells
2. Davis drafted DHB #7 overall, he traded away a future 4th rounder for Campbell, so DHB is going to be held in higher regard to Davis
3. Does anyone REALLY think our passing Offense would have been in the top 15 with Nick Miller starting over DHB? Our wide receiving core, aside from Ford and occasionaly Murphy, is crap.
Im not saying Hue Jackson is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but come on dude, the most important stat in the game is points scored. He improved us from DEAD LAST to #6 overall in one season. Hue HAS to get credit for that if he is going to get the blame for everything else since Kennedy was assassinated!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:20 am
PFT reports Robbo is interviewing in Dallas for their DC job. Hire him, Jerry! Remove all temptation from Al!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:20 am
I like it when M gets angry. lol
January 14th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Fire Marshall!
I mentioned Dave Wannstedt’s name some days ago as a good DC for Oakland. Since then, he’s drawn interest from several teams.
This can only mean that NFL personnel guys read this blog and pay attention to what I say.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:22 am
3- Z Miller
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We can find a TE in rd 6.
Meyers can get it done too.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Dakota,
No, but that second to last sunday in Arrowhead, he looked like he shoulda been. LOL.
Actually, it was the Tennessee defense that looked like they just mailed it in that day. They didn’t even care. Disgusting performance.
Kerry stunk it up too, though.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:23 am
RR, why are you so down on Hue for not benching DHB… I know you have defended him all along in saying that WR’s dont come on until year 3, AND I know you nicknamed him DHBeast last years offseason (maybe you didnt coin it but you used it, and no I am not sifting through this blog to prove it).
January 14th, 2011 at 9:24 am
4 new starters on the OL?
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yeah (Veldheer)
your boy Bruce Campbell might earn a job at RG or RT this offseason – but don’t hold your breath!
I don’t see Gallery, Satele, Carlisle or Walker back
January 14th, 2011 at 9:25 am
We can find a TE in rd 6.
Meyers can get it done too.
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You have GOT to be joking.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:26 am
When you here Nnamdi talk about Belechick being the most prepared coach in the league, referencing his teammates who have played to Belechick and how they say he is the most prepared coach in the league …lol …
What do you really think he and say Seymour thought of Tom frickin Cable?
January 14th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Based on Vittorio Tafur’s report that Al wanted Cable to get Bruce Campbell in at RG in the season finale and Jerry’s mention that Al thought Mario Henderson should’ve been moved to right tackle after Veldheer won the starting LT job….
Veldheer-Gallery-Satele-Campbell-Henderson is the
offensive line next season.
I don’t think it’ll be too difficult to convince Satele and Henderson to re-sign.
To me, Gallery is the wildcard. I don’t know how miffed he is at Cable’s departure. But then I don’t know who might offer him more money than Al.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Titans signed Yamon Figures!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:29 am
You have GOT to be joking.
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Bcz24,
You’ve got to know by now that I’ll go agains the grain in here from time to time. I just don’t see Zack Miller as anything that can’t be replaced.
And I’m talking in terms of what he MIGHT be asking for to come back. I’d pay him in accordance to the production he’s had the past few years as a TE compared to the rest of the leagues.
He’s not getting Antonio Gates $ from me.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Veldheer-Gallery-Satele-Campbell-Henderson is the
offensive line next season.
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I think Hue will draft a Center. Satele improved this year, but was a liability in pass blocking. We could probably land O’Dowd or Kirkpatrick in the 3rd round.
I agree with the rest of your assessment of our line though.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:31 am
BCZ,
I bought the hype when Jerry Mac was tweeting about DHB catching everyting thrown his way in OTA’s & camp … then the Raiders stupidly issued that statement about him being the next big thing at WR!
DHBeast was Jhill’s and I did use it on occasion (sometimes sarcastically) and I told Richochet that DHB would outplay Terrell Owens this year, LOL
but it was obvious early on in the regular season that the kid wasn’t ready and shouldn’t be out there with the big boys. Hue, Ted or Sanjay should have noticed this and let him continue to work on his craft in-house. Murphy & Ford were the starters and when injuries came JLH should have been the guy. If they weren’t confident in this trio they should have made a plea to Al Davis to get a veteran in there asap!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
He’s not getting Antonio Gates $ from me.
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I dont think he will see Gates money either. Miller is invaluable to our offense. Dont complain about our 23rd ranked pass offense and then say we can replace our top reciever, and our ONLY consistant receiver with a 6th rounder.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Kerry Collins is the exception, but man you have to admit we have had some crappy a$$ QB’s
January 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
I don’t see Gallery, Satele, Carlisle or Walker back
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The CBA was mentioned earlier this morning.
If this thing draws out and we miss pre season games and all, I can’t see many FA changing teams. There will be what 2 weeks or so before the start of the season?
I think there is going to be a lot less movement than you think. Guys are going to be snatching up offers pretty much on a first come first serve basis, IMO.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Morning peoples!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Honestly, with all the other head coaching jobs in the NFL filled, and Hue Jax still sitting pretty as the OC, I think Al played this one pretty smart.
Cable was very popular with the players but that was his only positive quality. As for his improving the mentality of the team, I dunno? He was the coach all last year, and they got their a$$ stomped by several teams while producing atrocious offensive output. This year, they also got stomped by a few teams, but the offense was the difference in beating some below average teams and getting to 8-8. I want to root for Curly, because he was at the helm for our best season since 02′; but I really think Hue’s offense was a more important factor in our semi-success.
If Al makes a play for Rob Ryan as head coach, I wouldnt be surprised or dissapointed. Always liked Rob, but he wasnt much of a coordinator under Al’s thumb, perhaps he can flourish as a Time Out and Challenge Coordinator; just so long as Hue runs our offense.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:33 am
If they weren’t confident in this trio they should have made a plea to Al Davis to get a veteran in there asap!
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Thats completely conjecture. You will never know if they did or not. Just because they towed the party line about our WR core doesnt mean they werent begging Al behind closed doors to bring in somebody.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:38 am
J,
Z Miller is one of the best TEs in the game. His blocking is not that good, but he is our best receiver.
Stop hating on dude. He is a great player! Get over it!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:40 am
BBB,
Al Davis played it smart because the Raiders offer the last HC position available and he can now make Jackson or Ryan the lowest paid HC out there and they’d be happy to take it!
… and the players know both candidates
January 14th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Auburn DT Nick Fairly is expected to announce Friday that he’s skipping his senior season to enter the 2011 NFL Draft.
Fairley is fresh of a defensive MVP performance in the BCS National Championship Game with a sack, three tackles for a loss, and a forced fumble. Playing his best in big games throughout the season, Fairley led the SEC with 24 tackles for a loss and had a school-record 11.5 sacks. Though he’ll face questions about his maturity level and penchant for dirty play, Fairley will also draw strong consideration from the Panthers at No. 1 overall. At 6′5/298, he’s a dominant physical talent.
Source: ESPN.com
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Definitely an Al Davis type of DT.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:41 am
I wonder what it would take to move up about 49 spots in the draft? lol
January 14th, 2011 at 9:42 am
JC is better than A Brooks, A Walter, Collins, Garbagekowski, JaBustus, Dante C, McClown, and Tui. He is the best QB we had since Gannon.
Crazy!!!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:42 am
I wonder what it would take to move up about 49 spots in the draft?
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Travis Goethel
don’t do it AL!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I dont think there will be any change along our O-line next season (assuming there is a season).
Veldheer is entrenched at LT
Gallery is all talk, nobody is gonna spend more money than the Raiders to bring this guy on as a gaurd.
Satele was solid if not spectacular. He will need replacing eventually, but the debacle against Tenn. is all the warning they need against throwing a rookie center in the mix again.
Carlisle is our most technically proficient lineman. I cant stand the guy, because he looks underpowered at times, but I think he makes everyone around him better and replacing him with B. Campbell right away would be a disaster. Al just wanted to see Campbell get some playing time in a meaningless game, doesnt mean he will force him to start.
Finally Walker; I am the least sure about this one, because Walker is so penalty prone and awful in pass pro, but he was a HUGE part of our running game and I just dont see Henderson of all people replacing him. Maybe we find a rookie than will come on as the year progresses, but game 1, Walker gets the start.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:44 am
JaWalrus made me miss Rick Mirer, Rob Johnson & Tee Martin!
shoot. I was ready to get Vince Evans or Jeff George on the phone
January 14th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Miller is invaluable to our offense. Dont complain about our 23rd ranked pass offense and then say we can replace our top reciever, and our ONLY consistant receiver with a 6th rounder.
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Invaluable? Disagree.
Could easily replace him with 3 WR set keeping the 6th rd TE in to block. Ford in the slot, Vincent Jackson and Murphy on the outside.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Jasyrup made me miss Shraoder.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Z Miller is one of the best TEs in the game.
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If you consider top 15 best in he game, then sure.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:47 am
JC is the best QB we had since Gannon! Get over it!
If you still think that garbagekowski should start, then you are craaazy!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:47 am
DMac,
Good game the other night.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:48 am
As long as none of his injuries appear to be career threatening, than Zach Miller must be a priority to resign.
The guy has been Oakland’s only reliable, consistant and professional receiving threat for the last four fricking years.
Opposing DC’s know it and gameplan to take him away, too. If the rest of the Raiders passing game could elevate their play to his level, I have no doubt that Z Miller could be a Dallas Clark, Jason Witten type of weapon. Amongst the league’s elite.
The guy seemed to drop more passes this year than I can ever remember. You have to give him credit for trying to tough it out on one leg, basically. Shoot it up, tape it up and go.
The Raiders have struggled forever to find the heir apparent to Todd Christenson. Burned a #1 on Dudley. Second on Doug Jolley. I think to lose Zach just as he enters his prime would be a huge blow for this franchise. A defenite step back for a struggling passing attack.
Geting Zach Miller resigned has to be another high prority for Al. One of many.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:48 am
J,
Top 8!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Resign Miller and bring back Doug Jolley.
Killer double TE sets.
Holla!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:48 am
234.Raider O Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 9:42 am
JC is better than A Brooks, A Walter, Collins, Garbagekowski, JaBustus, Dante C, McClown, and Tui. He is the best QB we had since Gannon.
Crazy!!!
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Sadly he might be better than those guys, but he still isn’t very good lol.
There is an interesting phenomenon I have observed in the Raider Nation over the course of the last 5 years or so. Things have gone so bad for so long that the Fans tend to glob on to even mediocre play or coaching and then exalt it like it was the best thing since sliced bread. From Cable to Fargas to Gallery to Campbell to Marshall…..
I find that behavior kind of pathetic, but understandable.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:49 am
I think Hue will draft a Center. Satele improved this year, but was a liability in pass blocking. We could probably land O’Dowd or Kirkpatrick in the 3rd round.
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If we could land O’Dowd or even trade up for Wiz’s nephew, I might p!ss my pants. That’d be great. Must confess I know almost nothign about Kirkpatrick.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:50 am
J,
Yeah, pretty exciting even though my team loss. Your thoughts on Ellis? I think he deserves a spot on the All-star this year.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:50 am
DMAC,
if Russell ever re-enters the NFL (as Debo predicts) you know that contract is going to have a few clauses for weight and Sizzurp!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:51 am
J,
Name 14 TEs that are better than Miller.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Zach “The Truth” Miller is a solid, above-average NFL TE. He has great chemistry with all of our QB’s, is already familiar with Hue’s system and is our best 3rd-down reciever. Al should do everything within reason to bring this guy back, but certainly not Antonio Gates money, not even close.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:52 am
The guy has been Oakland’s only reliable, consistant and professional receiving threat for the last four fricking years.
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Which says more about the WRs than it does Miller.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Satele was solid if not spectacular. He will need replacing eventually, but the debacle against Tenn. is all the warning they need against throwing a rookie center in the mix again.
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We never started a rookie center. The PROBLEM was we started a rookie LT at center.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Must confess I know almost nothign about Kirkpatrick.
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I dont know much about him, but he won the award for best center in the nation this year…
January 14th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Random QB thoughts:
Unless Al hasn’t managed to get over his Vince Young love the past 5 seasons, Jason Campbell will be the QB next year. And I think he played well enough the last several games to have earned it.
Charlie Frye will be the 3rd string. If Jerry tells the truth (and I’m sure he is), he’s learned a lot of goodwill in the organization through his hard work and dedication, even showing up to meetings and practices despite being on IR. Then too, I remember Frye talking about Al calling him into his office to chat. Davis only does that with players he really likes. A competent 3rd string for the vet minimum? I’ll take it.
Second string is more complicated. I think Boller is gone, since even in limited action he didn’t do much of anything. Wouldn’t shock me to see Hue argue successfully to have Bruce stick around.
A wildcard might be Matt Leinart who will probably leave Houston and may be another 1st round bust collected by Davis.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Your thoughts on Ellis? I think he deserves a spot on the All-star this year.
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Haven’t seen enough of his games. Was thinking you needed to trade Curry for a big man.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Dakota,
I don’t think JC is great, and we can upgrade the QB position, but let’s be honest. His play wasn’t that bad considering the talent around him. He is a solid/ avg NFL QB that we can win us games with the right talent around him, good coaching, and a great scheme.
Giants went tithe SB with Collins, and the Ravens won it with Dilfer!
Avg QBs can take their team to the SB, if they have enough talent around them, and good coaching.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Name 14 TEs that are better than Miller
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Fasano, both Pats TE’s, Keller, Heap, Gresham, Watson, Hmiller, Daniels, Clark, Lewis, Scaife, Moeaki & Gates are ALL pretty good TE’s and thats just in the AFC
I still think we should re-sign Zach Miller though, as long as his agent doesn’t ask for Top 3 NFL TE money!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:59 am
250.Raider O Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 9:51 am
J,
Name 14 TEs that are better than Miller.
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All the TEs in the playoffs, Mercedes Lewis, Vernon Davis, Gates, Winslow, Witten …. off the top of my head.
KC has a rookie TE that’s pretty good, and so does Cincy and Det.
Miller might not even be top 20.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:02 am
The guy has been Oakland’s only reliable, consistant and professional receiving threat for the last four fricking years.
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Which says more about the WRs than it does Miller.
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Heard that, also says alot about the QB situation. But really though, our WR’s are terrible.
Ford ranked 66th (out of the 85 players that caught 50 or more passes)
Murphy ranked 69th and the great DHB ranked 82nd. (Per Football Outsiders)
Just terrible…
January 14th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Fasano!!!
Heap!!!!
H Miller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moeaki!!!!!!!!
Pats TE!!!!!!!!
Gresham!!!!!
Really dude?!?
January 14th, 2011 at 10:03 am
the NFC has Witten, Boss, Celek, Cooley, Olsen, Pettigrew, Finley, Shiancoe, Gonzalez, Shockey, Winslow, Vdavis & Carlson
#2 TE’s for the Redskins & Saints are solid too!
Jhill is right. obviously not hard to find a good TE in this league. but how much is Zmiller really worth?
He’s worth Top 10 money imo, but not Top 5
January 14th, 2011 at 10:03 am
You would rather have Fasano than Zack Miller? Watson is like 38… Scaife? I guarantee you all three of those teams would trade those guys head up for Miller in a heartbeat!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:04 am
I still think we should re-sign Zach Miller though, as long as his agent doesn’t ask for Top 3 NFL TE money!
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I agree. I don’t think Top 10 money is out of the question though.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Screw that! Miller is awesome! We need WR to pull some coverage off of him. He’s always covered because the opposing defense knows he’s the best receiver we have (with the possible exception of Ford)
I think with a deep threat we can spread the opposing defenses even more and open up the passing game, the Raiders only have a couple of guys you can count on to throw it to.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:05 am
I say we get rid of McFadden… he was only good because we didnt give Bush the ball enough.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:06 am
bcz24 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:05 am
I say we get rid of McFadden… he was only good because we didnt give Bush the ball enough.
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Pass what you’re smoking this way.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:07 am
BCZ & O,
a list of guys that are “all pretty good TE’s” does not mean that I would take them over Zach Miller!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I say we get rid of McFadden… he was only good because we didnt give Bush the ball enough.
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LOL
January 14th, 2011 at 10:10 am
I say we get rid of McFadden… he was only good because we didnt give Bush the ball enough.
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trade him to Denver for Orton, Clady and their 1st round pick
January 14th, 2011 at 10:11 am
I’m wondering who the weakside linebacker will be next year.
Scott isn’t the answer. Groves was up and down.
Goethel?
January 14th, 2011 at 10:11 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:10 am
I say we get rid of McFadden… he was only good because we didnt give Bush the ball enough.
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trade him to Denver for Orton, Clady and their 1st round pick
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Elway just might be stupid enough to do that.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:14 am
I’d love to have Miller back too.
But we were discussing him being the #3 priority FA for the Raiders.
Only guys that will get serious FA play will be Seymour, Huff, Bush, and Nnamdi, imo.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:16 am
I think Al will franchise Seymour again this year and negotiate a 3 or 4 year deal after.
With being franchised again, Seymour will make over 15 million, which will give him one more big payday before having to take a salary more in line with his age. Especially if the Raiders make the playoffs next year, I have to think he’d be cool with that.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Elway just might be stupid enough to do that.
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Tebow & Lloyd remain and they now have a RB tandem of McFadden/Moreno … then they could overspend in FA for a LT or draft one high in RD2
good for both teams imo
January 14th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Developing Ford in our passing game is gonna be huge for our offense. As a rookie, that only played half the season, he is already our best reciever. I really hope they get another big-bodied WR in the draft; this might put me in the minority, but the success of Ford shows me that waiting around for Murphy and DHB to develop or Schilens to develop stronger tendons, might be a fool’s errand. We need TALENT, not potential.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Ahhh, new additions to the McFadden hater list!
Rockstar
SnBPA
BCZ24
January 14th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Ahhh, new additions to the McFadden hater list!
Rockstar
SnBPA
BCZ24
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Don’t even, dude! I’m sitting here in a McFadden jersey right now.
(Black and gold day at work. I wore my Raiders jersey. They can suck it)
January 14th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Black and Gold Day?? Please tell the Steelers fans that their team colors are Black and Canary Yellow.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Dakota,
you wouldn’t trade Darren McFadden for a 24 year old 2x Pro Bowl LT, starting QB and the #2 overall draft choice ???
January 14th, 2011 at 10:23 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Black and Gold Day?? Please tell the Steelers fans that their team colors are Black and Canary Yellow.
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I’ve already told them worse.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:24 am
and with the 48th pick of the NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select …
???
January 14th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Ahhh, new additions to the McFadden hater list!
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Dude that was COMPLETE sarcasm!!! I am no DMac hater!!! I only said it because of JHill and RR saying ZMiller is expendable.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:25 am
trade him to Denver for Orton, Clady and their 1st round pick
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Not a bad offer, but I’d have to pass. Don’t know if Orton is mobile enough in th pocket for us and Veldheer seems to be just fine at LT.
Wouldn’t essentially trade DMac for the #2 pick in the draft.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:26 am
283.bcz24 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Ahhh, new additions to the McFadden hater list!
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Dude that was COMPLETE sarcasm!!! I am no DMac hater!!! I only said it because of JHill and RR saying ZMiller is expendable.
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Relax, I am just kidding too.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:27 am
has Richard Seymour been worth the 17th overall draft pick (this year) these past 2 years?
I think our Run Defense has ranked bottom 5 both seasons!
now after being named to the Pro Bowl you know his agent will be seeking Top 5 DT money
January 14th, 2011 at 10:27 am
So we have some undercover DMAC haters, Dakota?
PUT EM’ ON THE LIST!!!!!!!!
LMAO
January 14th, 2011 at 10:27 am
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 13th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Here’s the thing you don’t realize Priest.
JaJason isn’t going to get better. He is who he is.
And he sucks.
Also it isn’t necessary to get a Tom Brady to upgrade over JaJason.
A healthy Gradkowski is an upgrade.
Hue Jackson knows this, even if you don’t.
Heck, even Al Davis knows this. Unless you’re naive enough to think that Al didn’t sign off on the decision to bench JaJason, not once – but twice, and that Hue didn’t have anything to do with that…
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I love Grads heart, but is this is a serious post?
Grads is who he is and that’s a journeyman back-up quarterback. I will be surprised if he is resigned by the Raiders vs going with Boller or Frye as our #2 and someone to develop at #3.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:27 am
So Z Miller is to our TEs what DMac is to our RBs????
Well maybe we can trade Miller to the Donks for Orton, Clady, and the #2 pick?
January 14th, 2011 at 10:27 am
RR saying ZMiller is expendable
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LOL! here we go
January 14th, 2011 at 10:28 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:24 am
and with the 48th pick of the NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select …
???
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I have seen Tyron Smith OT USC mentioned on a few Mocks.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:29 am
now after being named to the Pro Bowl you know his agent will be seeking Top 5 DT money
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He should send half his check to Tommy Kelly!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:30 am
The only guy I’d let go of would be Aso.
I’d use his money to find a better quarterback.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:31 am
My only wish is that Stefan “Little Wiz” Wisnewski is still around at #48.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Pretty nice Friday!
I just got payed.
I got a 3 day weekend coming.
My young ones are healthy.
And I’m still breathing.
Holla!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Only 6 hours until Al wakes up for the day!
GM of the year!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:32 am
He should send half his check to Tommy Kelly!
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Jhill,
TK has PLENTY of Al’s money!
how about Houston & ShoNasty ???
January 14th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Wassuppp,
1. Wimbley should be a pass rushing DE specialist. Al Davis better draft that Matthews LB kid from Oregon. Groves, McClain and Matthews would be awesome.
2. For the earlier discussion on JaSuck, Hue Jack went on the record to say he wanted to bench JC in the first game against Tenn and it was he who made the recommendation to pull JC in the STL game.
3. Nnamdi is wayyy too smart to tip his hands. I hope he comes back. Glad to hear Lechler is respected in the locker room. Those who hated on him are just silly.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Here’s a littl Oakland A’s news update for my A’s fans…..
The A’s and reliever Grant Balfour are close to agreement on a multi-year deal, a source told FOXSports.com’s Jon Paul Morosi.
Financial terms have not yet been released for the Type A free agent. Since Oakland’s first-round pick is protected, Tampa Bay will get their second rounder as well as a supplementary first round pick. Balfour, 33, posted a strong 2.28 ERA and 56/17 K/BB ratio over 55 1/3 innings with the Rays last season and should be an elite setup man for closer Andrew Bailey with the A’s.
Source: Jon Paul Morosi on Twitter
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Enough w/ the pitching. We are solid there already. Lets add some fk’n bats already!!!!!!!!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Time to talk about the Lakers….I see Orlando is already afraid Howard will be leaving them in 2012 for the Lakers.
Make it happen Mitch!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:38 am
I have seen Tyron Smith OT USC mentioned on a few Mocks.
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Meh. Veldheer is entrenched on the left side and Smith will be lucky to hit 295 pounds by the Combine. Not big enough for a right tackle.
Possibilities I see include:
Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
Curtis Brown, CB, Texas
Kris O’Dowd, C, USC
Greg Jones, OLB, Michigan State
Jurrell Casey, DT, USC
January 14th, 2011 at 10:38 am
RR
In my opinion I think Seymour was well worth the pick. He did what Al paid fat Sapp to do. Sapp instead brought the “Collect a check” attitude to Oakland and then bad mouthed us as left with a pocket full of our money.
If you remember Seymour was the first guy off of the rookie bus this summer at Napa. He set the tome for us all year long with his work ethic and had play. I would give him a lot of credit for our defensive trun around for not just his play but his leadership out there and the way he lead by example.
If you ask me, Hell yes he was worth it!!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Dakota,
What time do you think Jerry Buss wakes up?
If you were had Al Davis $ and owned a pro sports team, you wouldn’t get up until 1 pm either. Especially during the offseason, lol.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:39 am
how about Houston & ShoNasty ???
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They didn’t make the pro bowl.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:40 am
DMAC Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Pretty nice Friday!
I just got payed.
I got a 3 day weekend coming.
My young ones are healthy.
And I’m still breathing.
Holla!
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Holla!
I got the same situation, ‘cept I got no young ones…but the wife still puts out, so that could change, LOL!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:41 am
303.J Hill Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Dakota,
What time do you think Jerry Buss wakes up?
If you were had Al Davis $ and owned a pro sports team, you wouldn’t get up until 1 pm either. Especially during the offseason, lol.
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I have no problem with owners sleeping whenever and wherever they want….GMs on the other hand…..
January 14th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Dokota
Is there no Lakers blog for that crap!
I hate basketball!!
a 50 year old man made 5400 free throws in a row and a Lebron James cant shoot 80% from the line like Isaiah Thomas/ Magic Johnson era players did?
Just plain lazy no defense dunking all the time is so boring to watch!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:42 am
307.Silver-and-black666 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Just plain lazy no defense dunking all the time is so boring to watch!
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You need to stop watching the Warriors….other teams actually try!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Mitch Kupchak doesn’t wipe his nose without Jerry Buss’ approval.
Mitch Kupchak = John Herrera
January 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Dakota
Why is it that the old fashioned high tight shorts they used to wear made them better players?
January 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Silver-and-black666 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Dokota
Is there no Lakers blog for that crap!
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Yes, but I have found that B-ball blogs are full of people that seem to have low IQs….the football fans in here that also have an interest in B-ball tend to be more intelligent for some reason.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:47 am
I have seen Tyron Smith OT USC mentioned on a few Mocks.
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Tyron Smith is closer to 285 pounds than he is 320. Not the prototype Al Davis power lineman.
Maybe if Cable was still here he’d be a consideration, but methinks the ZBS is gone. I’m not one to predict things, but I’d say we’re going to have a new o-line coach next year (to go with our new WR coach), and he won’t be a ZBS guy.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Dakota
“.the football fans in here that also have an interest in B-ball tend to be more intelligent for some reason.”
Ok I am with you on that one…..but the high tight shorts can you explain that to me?
January 14th, 2011 at 10:49 am
309.J Hill Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Mitch Kupchak doesn’t wipe his nose without Jerry Buss’ approval.
Mitch Kupchak = John Herrera
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Lol good one. Mitch certainly has to get approval from Buss due to the luxury tax, but Mitch makes the call as to most of the players. As in all sports, the Owner makes the call on the superstar players like Kobe and Shaq….but Mitch builds the team around them.
Herrera changes diapers and hands out memos undercutting the HCs.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Not saying I am lobbying for Smith… just said I had seen him mentioned on more than one Mock is all.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Maybe if Cable was still here he’d be a consideration, but methinks the ZBS is gone. I’m not one to predict things, but I’d say we’re going to have a new o-line coach next year (to go with our new WR coach), and he won’t be a ZBS guy.
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Agreed with edward teach
would also like to add that we’ll have 4 new starters on the OL next season
January 14th, 2011 at 10:52 am
310.Silver-and-black666 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Dakota
Why is it that the old fashioned high tight shorts they used to wear made them better players?
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When your nutz are falling out of the bottom of your shorts you tend to concentrate on the game so that it will end sooner so you can get back to the locker room and change back into normal clothes.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:52 am
BCZ,
Tyron Smith > Jared Veldheer?
you bastard!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:53 am
I said no such thing. We DO field TWO tackles ya know…
January 14th, 2011 at 10:53 am
295.DMAC Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Pretty nice Friday!
I just got payed.
I got a 3 day weekend coming.
My young ones are healthy.
And I’m still breathing.
Holla!
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Good for you bro, you have earned it. Do EVERYTHING you can to keep it. Yer in better shape than 80% of the WORLD.
Raider on my friend.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Dakota,
The only difference between Al Davis and Jerry Buss are the 2 young hot ones on Jerry’s arm on any given night.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:55 am
I am not entirely sure that Cable won’t be back as our O-line coach next season. I have heard about exactly zero teams showing any interest in him for any job, at the college or pro level, and the coaching carousel is almost done spinning. If Al plays it cool, Cable may have nowhere else to land.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:56 am
I am not entirely sure that Cable won’t be back as our O-line coach
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Pass
January 14th, 2011 at 10:56 am
I said no such thing. We DO field TWO tackles ya know…
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I know what you’re thinking before you eveb type. It’s like a game of chess
checkmate!
January 14th, 2011 at 10:57 am
322.BART Bridge Blues Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:55 am
I am not entirely sure that Cable won’t be back as our O-line coach next season. I have heard about exactly zero teams showing any interest in him for any job, at the college or pro level, and the coaching carousel is almost done spinning. If Al plays it cool, Cable may have nowhere else to land.
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that would be wierd, but i can see cable doin it.
January 14th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Cable has more pride than that
plus it may divide the locker room if Hue Jax is indeed named HC …
January 14th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Haha Cable is coming back as Head Coach… Al wanted to start fresh with a new contract.. LOL
January 14th, 2011 at 11:00 am
321.J Hill Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Dakota,
The only difference between Al Davis and Jerry Buss are the 2 young hot ones on Jerry’s arm on any given night.
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And the fact that one is the GM of his team and the other one is jet-setting across the world when the offseason starts.
Buss and Al are nothing alike. You are bordering on getting your Laker fan card pulled with that kind of talk.
Oh, and Jerry Buss is a winner….Al hasn’t been one of those for 27 years.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Cable is coming back as Head Coach… Al wanted to start fresh with a new contract
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2.5 mil was WAY more than he was worth. You never know what Al Davis has up his sleeve
Cable would CERTAINLY accept a contract for 1 year and the lowest HC salary in the NFL
January 14th, 2011 at 11:04 am
ESPN First Take just did an entire segment/panel discussion with Nnamdi and three other analysts(sorry I didn’t get any of their names) where the topic was, “Where should Nnamdi go next year?”
One of the analysts made a quite passionate plea for Nnamdi to stay here in Oakland. He said that Al Davis loves Nnamdi and has been very good to him, to which Nnamdi replied, “Yes he has.”
He said the Raiders are on the verge of something really good and possibly even greatness, and that Nnamdi should stay here and finish what he started.
It actually made me a little emotional inside hearing someone on ESPN showing that much passion FOR the Raiders instead of AGAINST us for a change.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:05 am
You are bordering on getting your Laker fan card pulled with that kind of talk.
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That can never happen.
Need I remind you that Jerry West was ran outta town a la Gruden?
Kupchak takes care of the minor details of things like finding a team to take Sasha’s contract. But you know it’s Buss that is the one telling him to cut the payroll!
January 14th, 2011 at 11:05 am
If your Tom Cable and you have a relationship with these players and nobody else is offering you a paycheck, you take the job every time. Coaching is a profession where you have to swallow your pride a lot, these guys swap places between manager and subordinate all the time. Cable once lived in his car, and he was once the head coach of an NFL team; he could manage to tolerate anything in between.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:06 am
John Marshall is still the Oakland Raiders defensive coordinator despite reports to the contrary.
Al Davis is currently evaluating the Raiders coaching staff and began the process of interviewing new coaches, but no changes to the defensive coordinator position have been made as of yet.
Raiders senior executive John Herrera said such reports were “untrue” on Wednesday.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Oh, and Jerry Buss is a winner….Al hasn’t been one of those for 27 years.
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Al doesn’t have his stadium in LA …. yet!
January 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
“To me, you’re on the verge in Oakland of something good or maybe even something great,” Bayless said. So I say, go ahead and play the field and feel the love from everybody and get wined and dined because it’s fun to do and you’ve earned the right to do that. But in the end I want you to stay put.”
I will forever be a Skip Bayless fan
January 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Terrell Suggs says that the Superbowl New England won in 2002 is tainted because of the “Tuck Rule” game against the Raiders…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Terrell-Suggs-Tom-Brady-s-three-Super-Bowl-ring?urn=nfl-307256
January 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Cable once lived in his car
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seriously?
when was that ???
January 14th, 2011 at 11:08 am
John Marshall and most of the other assistants contracts are expired on Tuesday.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:09 am
# inonewordraider Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
“To me, you’re on the verge in Oakland of something good or maybe even something great,” Bayless said. So I say, go ahead and play the field and feel the love from everybody and get wined and dined because it’s fun to do and you’ve earned the right to do that. But in the end I want you to stay put.”
I will forever be a Skip Bayless fan
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There you go…I was talking about that interview a few posts back. Thanks for this quote.
Bayless almost brought a tear to my eye…
January 14th, 2011 at 11:09 am
With Cable as HC, Hue as OC, Waffles as DL, and Ryan as DC the RAIDERS go 13-3 next year.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:09 am
337.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Cable once lived in his car
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seriously?
when was that ???
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After his wife threw him out for beating on her?
January 14th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Last week was definitely disappointing for us. It’s not the way we’ve been preparing and showed ourselves during the preseason, for whatever reason we just came out flat and it just lasted throughout the game and we couldn’t catch our rhythm, and we never just got (energetic) to play at a high level and it’s something we can learn from as a team.
- Jason Campbell 09-15-10 on the loss to the Titans on opening day.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:12 am
341.Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:09 am
337.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Cable once lived in his car
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seriously?
when was that ???
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After his wife threw him out for beating on her?
*****
I’d let the fat monkey kick my ass every day for 2.5 million per year.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:12 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Cable once lived in his car
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Big Deal! So did I! There is still a lot of people I’ll never work for again. As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire!
Cable will not be back at the Raiders.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:13 am
340.The Real D-Rac Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:09 am
With Cable as HC, Hue as OC, Waffles as DL, and Ryan as DC the RAIDERS go 13-3 next year.
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So basically replacing Marshall with Ryan = 5 more wins? We barely won 5 games a season with Ryan as DC his first five seasons with us, but now he alone will improve our record by 5 games?
Wow.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:13 am
What it comes down to is that we’ve got five quarterbacks now and we’re going to have a great competition.
- Tom Cable 4-24-10 on his quarterback situation heading into OTA’s (including JaMarcus Russell)
January 14th, 2011 at 11:14 am
I remember reading that he lived out of his car for awhile, when he first started out in coaching. Those guys make peanuts initially.
That is why you can’t sell me on the “Cable has too much pride” line of reasoning. Jim Fassell was once an NFL head coach and he has now been relegated to begging Al Davis for a job.
Coaches are a much different breed than NFL players, they are not pampered and arrogant, these guys do what they gotta to make ends meet and keep doing what they love. Cable might be a little butt hurt that he lost his dream job, but he will get over it for a steady paycheck and a chance to redeem himself as an O-line coach.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Are you sure those quotes are right? Or did the Raiders change them?
lol
January 14th, 2011 at 11:15 am
344.Raiderbuck Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:12 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Cable once lived in his car
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Big Deal! So did I! There is still a lot of people I’ll never work for again. As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire!
Cable will not be back at the Raiders.
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Wow, what did the RAIDERS do to pizz cable off like that?
Just like players, coaches can be “re-signed” after they reach FA.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:17 am
345.Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:13 am
340.The Real D-Rac Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:09 am
With Cable as HC, Hue as OC, Waffles as DL, and Ryan as DC the RAIDERS go 13-3 next year.
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So basically replacing Marshall with Ryan = 5 more wins? We barely won 5 games a season with Ryan as DC his first five seasons with us, but now he alone will improve our record by 5 games?
Wow.
*****
No, not really. Just seein if you are payin attention.
I do believe even with a harder sched, if we kept EVERYTHING the same we would make the playoffs in 2011.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Tom Cable: Likely Landing Spots for Ex-Raiders Coach
1. Buffalo Bills
2. SportsCenter
3. St Louis Rams
4. Minnesota Vikings
5. Houston Texans
6. Carolina Panthers
7. University of Michigan
8. Fox NFL Sunday
9. Oakland Raiders
10. The Court Room
Bleacher Report (01/14/10)
January 14th, 2011 at 11:18 am
No I do not like Campbell as our QB.
Dude is a slow thinker.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:18 am
I’d like one example of a guy losing the HC spot and then taking a spot under the new HC. Interim guys don’t count.
Go.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:18 am
351.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Tom Cable: Likely Landing Spots for Ex-Raiders Coach
1. Buffalo Bills
2. SportsCenter
3. St Louis Rams
4. Minnesota Vikings
5. Houston Texans
6. Carolina Panthers
7. University of Michigan
8. Fox NFL Sunday
9. Oakland Raiders
10. The Court Room
Bleacher Report (01/14/10)
*****
For forgot Friday Night Fights.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Yeah, I’m pretty sure (I’ll be back). As sure as I can be.
- Tom Cable 01-03-10 on his job status after the final game of the 2009 season (in which the Raiders lost to the Ravens 21-13)
January 14th, 2011 at 11:19 am
I think we’ve done a really good job. People thought we weren’t doing much in free agency, but we actually were because we were letting go of different people and moving things around with the team. So that’s actually doing a lot.
- Nnamdi Asomugha 4-29-10 on the Raiders’ offseason moves last season
January 14th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I think every guy on the team is pretty optimistic about what we can do next year, just because we’ll be another year better. I think with each year we’ve gotten a little bit better. I think going into next year I think everybody will be pretty excited with the way the offense played this year, and the young guys, that stepped up for us. There’s a lot of reason to have optimism.
- Nnamdi Asomugha 12-26-10 right after the loss to the Colts and the day the Raiders’ playoff hopes were ended.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:28 am
330.ArmChair GM Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:04 am
ESPN First Take just did an entire segment/panel discussion with Nnamdi and three other analysts(sorry I didn’t get any of their names) where the topic was, “Where should Nnamdi go next year?”
One of the analysts made a quite passionate plea for Nnamdi to stay here in Oakland. He said that Al Davis loves Nnamdi and has been very good to him, to which Nnamdi replied, “Yes he has.”
He said the Raiders are on the verge of something really good and possibly even greatness, and that Nnamdi should stay here and finish what he started.
It actually made me a little emotional inside hearing someone on ESPN showing that much passion FOR the Raiders instead of AGAINST us for a change.
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the guy you’re referring to is Skip Bayless. He loves Al Davis and I used to exchange emails with him when he was here in the Bay Area writing on the Raiders.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:29 am
The Real D-Rac Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I think every guy on the team is pretty optimistic about what we can do next year, just because we’ll be another year better.
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And then, Al Davis pulled the rug out from under everybody by firing Tom Cable.
We’ll see who stays.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Oh everybody in the NFL loves Al Davis, but nobody is beating his doors down for that HC job. lol
January 14th, 2011 at 11:37 am
This is who I want playing LB for us in the future….
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/gallery/enlargePhoto?id=5987026
January 14th, 2011 at 11:44 am
I would take Shayne Skov.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:44 am
You would have to be an idiot like KK to think that there is any loyalty in the NFL.
To think a player would stay or leave because of a coach is BS!
NFL players today are loyal to money and that’s it, as long as daddy Al will over pay them, I guarantee they will stay regardless of who is our head coach next year.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Which teams out there were coaches beating down the door to gt their HC job?
January 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Purp,
I heard his little brother is a beast also and will be joining Staford also.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Stanford
January 14th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Too bad for my Cal Bears! (Fk!)
January 14th, 2011 at 11:51 am
I agree Jhill
There was no one beating down Jerry Jones door for a job he had to hire Garett.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Keenan Allen for the Cal is going to be great if we can get a halfway decent qb to throw to him….
January 14th, 2011 at 11:57 am
3. Holmgren confirmed he talked to Jon Gruden, Bill Cowher, and “a number of people that didn’t appear in stories anywhere.” Holmgren had an initial list of ten candidates, but only wanted to interview three finalists.
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Holmgren couldn’t get anyone to sniff that Cleve job.
Miami tried to get Gruden with 7 million who said no, and even Cowher turned them down when they wouldn’t give him “control”, lol.
January 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Great article breaking down Marshawn Lynch’s run last weekend. If you truly love football, then this article is for you. Stuff like this is how the OC gets inflated with his stats (Hue Jack – DMAC).
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2013931508_hawk14.html
January 14th, 2011 at 11:59 am
I don’t know why, but Tedford doesn’t convince me.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Thursday was Day Nine of the coach watch, which we envision as offensive coordinator Hue Jackson watching his phone, waiting for Al Davis to tell him the day and time for the news conference.
Cleveland and Denver both hired coaches on Thursday, making the Raiders the last team yet to hire a coach. Davis could conceivably now wait until after the new CBA or lockout to promote Jackson, but I don’t think he is going to do that.
Players are still disappointed that coach Tom Cable was not brought back after an 8-8 season, and making the popular Jackson official should grease the skids for a smooth transition.
Posted By: Vittorio Tafur (SF Gate)
January 14th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Miami tried to get Gruden with 7 million who said no, and even Cowher turned them down when they wouldn’t give him “control”, lol.
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Gruden and Harbaugh turned down 7 million for Miami in 48 hours….
January 14th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Gruden and Harbaugh turned down 7 million for Miami in 48 hours
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Al Davis “I’ll pay you $2 million and consider your advice on potential free agents and draft choices, as well as the depth chart. I already have your asst coaches in place. Just Win”
January 14th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
It’s Friday.
I’ma put my 40oz. in the freezer cause I wanna get bent.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
You wanna get bent. I’m going to get wasted!
LMAO
January 14th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
According to FOX Sports’ Adam Caplan, TCU QB Andy Dalton is “highly thought of in the scouting community.”
Dalton was the Mountain West Conference Player of the Year in both 2009 and 2010, leading the Horned Frogs to an undefeated record this past season and compiling a 27:6 touchdown-to-interception ratio. Senior Bowl practices start two Mondays from now, and Dalton will be on the field for the West squad. He’s picking up steam as a potential second- to third-round pick.
Source: FOX Sports NFL Buzz
January 14th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Rob Ryan has a interview with the Cowboys for the DC job
January 14th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
DMAC how strong is Dalton’s arm.???? I havent heard anything about his arm.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
377.DMAC Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
You wanna get bent. I’m going to get wasted!
LMAO
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Come over DMAC, I got some Deer steaks soakin in some Soy/Ginger/Sesame juice, and the 211 gettin cold.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Purp,
Many scouts are saying that he has a strong arm, but I personally didn’t get a chance to see him much.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Deer Steaks and 211 boy that sounds like a good Friday
January 14th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Got some Purp, and Northern Lights is that is your taste.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
D-Rac,
Where you reside, my raider brother?
January 14th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Yea I havent seen to much TCU game tape…. All I know is I want us to pick upa qb somewhere in the draft to sit behind JC
January 14th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
C’mon PurpDank81 I got room for more RAIDERS.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Schefter said on his weekly chat that there are a lot of teams interested in Nnamdi, and more will jump in. Nnamdi has basically earned the right and respect to choose whereever he wants. The only think Schefter said he knows for sure is that Nnamdi will NOT resign with the Raiders.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Starting to get a sinking feeling about this whole thing.
Looks as though Al had no plan and doesn’t know how to move forward.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Peace out ya’ll.
Gotta run. Have a good weekend peoples.
Go A’s!
Go DUBS!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
January 14th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
385.DMAC Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
D-Rac,
Where you reside, my raider brother?
**********
South Side of Sacramento Killafornia.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Unfortunately Im workin until 8 and then gotta be back at work at 7 in the morning
January 14th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Raider75 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Starting to get a sinking feeling about this whole thing.
Looks as though Al had no plan and doesn’t know how to move forward.
****
Why? Because he hasnt named Hue his HC publicly yet? Who cares. We all know thats where he is going. Why give Hue a raise before the impending lockout. Not like Hue can do anything with free agents… He can scout the senior bowl and other events as on OC.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
No worries if Nnamdi does leave and goes to an in- division rival…like the Chargers. We can just line up DHB on his side of the field and play 10 on 10. Oh wait…on any defense not run by Al, Nnamdi might actually be covering one of our receivers that we would throw to. He deserves better.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
# bcz24 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Raider75 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Starting to get a sinking feeling about this whole thing.
Looks as though Al had no plan and doesn’t know how to move forward.
****
Why? Because he hasnt named Hue his HC publicly yet? Who cares. We all know thats where he is going. Why give Hue a raise before the impending lockout. Not like Hue can do anything with free agents… He can scout the senior bowl and other events as on OC.
……
I’m all cool with Hue. Just looks like a big mess to me.
No coach and all the FAs happening at the same time just seams crazy.
January 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
All this jibber-jabber about Cowher as a possible HC canidate…
Tell me Raider Nation, would you REALLY want a former HC of the Sh@#tsburgh Queer-lers coaching YOUR team??
I would rather see Art Shell and his lame ass coaching staff come back before that… and god knows, I would NOT want to see that either!…
I would rather go 0-16 for eternity before that!…
Lets face it, we will never have a HC with a mind of his own until King Al steps down
Either way, Win, Lose or Tie, RAIDERS til I Effin DIE!!
January 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
No coach and all the FAs happening at the same time just seams crazy.
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There is nothing happening with free agency right now. Its all conjecture by talking heads, most of whom are not fond of Al Davis and the Raiders.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Schefter said on his weekly chat that there are a lot of teams interested in Nnamdi, and more will jump in. Nnamdi has basically earned the right and respect to choose whereever he wants. The only think Schefter said he knows for sure is that Nnamdi will NOT resign with the Raiders.
Really?
January 14th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
inonewordraider Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
bcz24 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Schefter said on his weekly chat that there are a lot of teams interested in Nnamdi, and more will jump in. Nnamdi has basically earned the right and respect to choose whereever he wants. The only think Schefter said he knows for sure is that Nnamdi will NOT resign with the Raiders.
Really?
if that’s the case I don’t want him on my team
January 14th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Yep. Schefter is certain Nnamdi will NOT resign with us.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Chargers just hired Manusky to replace Rivera.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
# raiderinpa Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
All this jibber-jabber about Cowher as a possible HC canidate…
Tell me Raider Nation, would you REALLY want a former HC of the Sh@#tsburgh Queer-lers coaching YOUR team??
I would rather see Art Shell and his lame ass coaching staff come back before that… and god knows, I would NOT want to see that either!…
I would rather go 0-16 for eternity before that!…
Lets face it, we will never have a HC with a mind of his own until King Al steps down
Either way, Win, Lose or Tie, RAIDERS til I Effin DIE!!
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odd post. First it’s “do you really want Cowher?” to “no one he’ll ever come here”.
Which is it? Personally, yeah, I would love Cowher. What does it matter where he used to coach? It’s a business, not a religion.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
BCZ,
when is the deadline for a CBA?
when do we know whether or not 2011 = lockout?
January 14th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Chargers just hired Manusky to replace Rivera
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CRAP!
thats an even swap. was hoping they’d downgrade at least a little …
January 14th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Drama, always the drama with Al.
Y string a guy along, if you plan on hiring him?
Why disrespect Hue that way? If you want a man to run your organization, treat him right, with respect, and let the players and the fans know you have faith in this person.
Instead its the waiting game. The ‘is there anyone else better, available’? Which leads to the “was the only person left’ comments, that Hue reads, players read, fans read, and reporters laugh at.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
@ SilverSurfer:
With all due respect, being a Raider fan for 41 years in the heart of “Steeler Country” and cousin of #55 Dan Conners, yes it is more than business to me… it’s personal!..
I’ve developed a thick skin & a pure hatred for all things Steeler-related!… ‘F’ those ‘F-in’ ‘F-ers!’
January 14th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
if Al Davis signs Hue Jackson to a $2.5 mil contract and theres a lock out next season, we’ve essentially paid him $2.5 million for nothing, correct ???
January 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
CBA expires on March 3rd or 4th at midnight. After that: anarchy. There are literally no rules on how the NFL, NFLPA, players and owners will proceed. Should get real interesting!
January 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
What happened to Brien? Is he in jail?
January 14th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
@raiderinpa. I see your point, but honestly, the NFL routinely switches players and coaches, and it’s a whole new ballgame, right?
I mean, Romo? Raider fans hated him with a passion. Until he became a Raider.
Everyone hated 49ers Rice, Lott, Craig, etc, until they put on the Silver and Black.
Dallas fans hated T.O. until he caught his first TD.
I could care less who brings us to the promised land, as long as they get the job done.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
I think that he and Bob got banned for the the threats of beating people up that they had in here one night. Could be wrong though. They could have just had enough with this blog…
January 14th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
407.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
if Al Davis signs Hue Jackson to a $2.5 mil contract and theres a lock out next season, we’ve essentially paid him $2.5 million for nothing, correct ???
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Correct….which makes me nervous….I think Al might just wait and see and not name a HC until the labor strife is settled….which might save him a couple of million bucks, but would go a long way towards turning off the players. Changing HCs is one thing, but leaving the team hanging for months and months is another story and may force those players out. Al usually keeps the players he wants, but a circus act like that might push those players away.
Al has always been penny smart, but pound foolish.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
CBA expires on March 3rd or 4th at midnight.
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and free agency starts on March 5th, right?
Hmmmm…
January 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
@RaiderRockStar.
If there’s a lockout, does anyone get paid?
Isn’t that kind of the idea of a lockout? Things shut down, affecting all?
I understood that the players, and the coaches received their salary, divided up by 17 weeks, and paid out each monday am, during the season?
Of course, no doubt, I’m sure some contracts are written up addressing just that, in the event of a lockout.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
SilverSurfer,
Love the name btw…I see your point also and it is a great point, but I can see his side also. Yes, I hated Rice, Lott, Romo…etc until they donned the Silver and Black, but I would never buy their jerseys…because none of them were true Raiders…just saying…
January 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/23355/examining-oaklands-coaching-search
Good article.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
413.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
CBA expires on March 3rd or 4th at midnight.
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and free agency starts on March 5th, right?
Hmmmm…
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No free agent period until a new CBA is agreed too….meaning we might have an NFL Draft in April without having signed our free agents in March & April, which could really change the way teams approach the draft.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Dakota,
what will players be doing from now until March 5th anyways?
7 more weeks without a HC while they work out at the facility or enjoy some time off with the family = no big deal imo
Now if there is football to be played next season and the Raiders dont have a HC in place by March 5th we’re in trouble!
Hue Jackson is under contract as an OC, so he ain’t going anywhere. All the HC gigs are filled. We can name him official HC 5 minutes after the CBA thing gets signed or extended or whatever and just post something on the team’s official website. Al could even have Hue call the player’s agents to make things seem all hunky dory in Oakhole
January 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
@ SilverSurfer:
I get your point, I was SO against Rod Woodson coming to Oaktown, but loved his pick against the old ‘Black & Gold’ (technically it isnt gold its baby-poop yellow), what a kick in the balls that was for them…
I’m actually OK with Woodson, he doesnt goof on our boys like Massengil’s poster child Warren Sapp!!
Still, I am not pining for “The Chin”!
January 14th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
if you worked for a CEO that came across as slightly loopy, and another company was willing to hire you? same pay, or maybe even more?
1-800-Bekins
January 14th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
No free agent period until a new CBA is agreed too….meaning we might have an NFL Draft in April without having signed our free agents in March & April, which could really change the way teams approach the draft.
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If we draft a DB at #48 i’m guessing one of the following is gone: Asomugha, Routt, Huff
January 14th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
418.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Dakota,
what will players be doing from now until March 5th anyways?
7 more weeks without a HC while they work out at the facility or enjoy some time off with the family = no big deal imo
Now if there is football to be played next season and the Raiders dont have a HC in place by March 5th we’re in trouble!
Hue Jackson is under contract as an OC, so he ain’t going anywhere. All the HC gigs are filled. We can name him official HC 5 minutes after the CBA thing gets signed or extended or whatever and just post something on the team’s official website. Al could even have Hue call the player’s agents to make things seem all hunky dory in Oakhole
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Why are you assuming there will be a free agent period begining on March 5th?
There is talk that this labor situation might go into August, or even into the regulat season….meaning if we don’t have a coach in place now, the players will not have the playbooks or even get to meet the HC for months and months, and the free agents will be sitting at home watching the Raiders get ridiculed for the next 8 months.
Teams that have hired their HCs now will have had the opportunity for the players to meet the coaches, get their playbooks, and have their offseason expectations set. Our players will be sitting around all offseason with no direction so that Al can maybe save a couple million in the event that there is no season in 2011.
That is my concern.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
409.Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
What happened to Brien? Is he in jail?
******
He is here every day.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Raccoon,
Let me know if you come to SD. I’ll take care of you. Purp, Cush, and mixed (my fav). BBQ Pit (El Cajon), and Tacos El Gordo in National city!
January 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
assuming the CBA expires on the 4th; free agency as we know it, no longer exists. In fact, depending on how things roll, all of our current free agents could be forced to remain on as employees of the Raiders organization at their current salary for at least one year. Al is no dummy when it comes to the CBA, he must be keenly aware of where the owners land on all of these issues and it seems to me that he is betting on no CBA in the 2011 season, a drastically altered CBA in 2011 than the one we know now or possibly no football in the 2011 season.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
I can’t wait for the Shefter tweet that says “The Raiders have decided to name Hue Jackson head coach, but only in the event of a 2011 season, so until then Hue Jackson will be the captain of the coaches, and will remain being paid as the offensive coordinator.”
Or would that be too long for a tweet?
January 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Teams that have hired their HCs now will have had the opportunity for the players to meet the coaches, get their playbooks, and have their offseason expectations set. Our players will be sitting around all offseason with no direction so that Al can maybe save a couple million in the event that there is no season in 2011.
That is my concern.
***
what is a HC in Oakland responsible for anyways?
addressing the media, calling timeouts and challenges, rah rah locker room speeches, etc
If Hue holds the title of OC, but is hopeful Al Davis will eventually name him HC … don’t you think he’d be more than happy to accept these additional responsibilities?
January 14th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
I read somewhere that some players that have wives/girlfriends that are preggo, are asking if they should have them induce labor. Before the CBA is up, and the players health insurance coverage is void…
January 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
427.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Teams that have hired their HCs now will have had the opportunity for the players to meet the coaches, get their playbooks, and have their offseason expectations set. Our players will be sitting around all offseason with no direction so that Al can maybe save a couple million in the event that there is no season in 2011.
That is my concern.
***
what is a HC in Oakland responsible for anyways?
addressing the media, calling timeouts and challenges, rah rah locker room speeches, etc
If Hue holds the title of OC, but is hopeful Al Davis will eventually name him HC … don’t you think he’d be more than happy to accept these additional responsibilities?
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Yes, that is exactly what I would expect out of the Raiders…..but my CONCERN is with how the players will react to it….having to watch the Raiders ridiculed for months and months and then suddenly having to make free agency choices when the CBA is finalized….those guys are going to steer clear of such a classless organization.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
I can’t wait for the Shefter tweet that says “The Raiders have decided to name Hue Jackson head coach, but only in the event of a 2011 season, so until then Hue Jackson will be the captain of the coaches, and will remain being paid as the offensive coordinator.”
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bwahahahahahahaha!
you’re exactly right
January 14th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
See this is what I am talking about….turn to espn news right now….there is a story coming up called “worst Raiders blunders”
here we go….
January 14th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
those guys are going to steer clear of such a classless organization.
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Al Davis’ M.O. is sifting through all the coaches and players nobody else wants and getting them at a price he deems fair (which is usually an overpayment with players and underpayment with coaches)
the Raiders will field a 53 man team if there is football to be played next season and Al Davis will expect that team to win more than 8 games and finish better than 3rd in the AFC West … thats what it boils down to
if we fail to do that (which I fully expect) it’s another Head Coach and QB in 2012 – maybe Shaw & Luck from Stanford ???
January 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
“Worst Raiders Blunders”? That could be like a whole hour show, maybe even a feature length film. I assume the overhead projecter press conference is #1, that was the stuff of legends.
January 14th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Lakota,
the Raiders are the team everybody loves to hate
if Al Davis isn’t 100 percent of the reason, he’s about 95 percent
the reality of it is that he isn’t going anywhere as owner or GM. He doesn’t want help and he’s going to have a hand in just about everything
January 14th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
just a poll question.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
I just read that Nnamdi will be wearing a neutral red helmet with no Raider insignia on it in the upcoming pro bowl.
Shouldn’t he be forced to wear a Raiders helmet even though he is a free agent?
January 14th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
424.Raider O Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Raccoon,
Let me know if you come to SD. I’ll take care of you. Purp, Cush, and mixed (my fav). BBQ Pit (El Cajon), and Tacos El Gordo in National city!
************
Will do bro, we gotta try and hook up @ a game. Maybe I can get down to SD is the gam eis in November.
We should put together a fund: “Get Raider O, and 4evaRaider to the Oakland Coliseum”
A weakend you’d NEVER forget.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
436.Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
I just read that Nnamdi will be wearing a neutral red helmet with no Raider insignia on it in the upcoming pro bowl.
Shouldn’t he be forced to wear a Raiders helmet even though he is a free agent?
***
Uh yeah, he made it as a RAIDER!
January 14th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Gotta love Priesttj, still deifying the old man, defending the indefensible to the bitter end. Two words for you, friend: JaMarcus Russell, a mere backwater kid who took your hero for $30 million dollars.
Listen up, douche, your hero won’t win another Super Bowl as long as he’s alive. His respect with the rest of the league is at all time low. He is a has been. If he were a CEO with a Fortune 500 company he’d have been fired. You think overseeing eight years of unrelenting ineptitude, financial mismanagment, and dramatic loss of franchise value doesn’t reduce a man’s legacy? What world do you live in?
January 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
I just read that Nnamdi will be wearing a neutral red helmet with no Raider insignia on it in the upcoming pro bowl.
Shouldn’t he be forced to wear a Raiders helmet even though he is a free agent?
***
if he really said that or plans to do it, they should force him to wear a leather helmet, from back in the good ole concussion friendly days!
January 14th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Nnamdi just set the ESPN people straight….called them out for calling him a former Raider all day and assuming he will not be a Raider again. Then said he would love to come back, but anything could happen in free agency.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Raccoon,
I will do my best to make it up there next season. I wanted to take my wife, and being a student I can’t afford some luxuries. I have no excuse next season, unless I start my MBA program early (I Need a break from school, so I don’t think that will happen). I would like to find an employer who is willing to pay for my program. I get the exp I need, make money, and I don’t pay for school.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Looks like Davis could have brought back Cable & Jackson intact.
But, the players liked Cable.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
440.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
I just read that Nnamdi will be wearing a neutral red helmet with no Raider insignia on it in the upcoming pro bowl.
Shouldn’t he be forced to wear a Raiders helmet even though he is a free agent?
***
if he really said that or plans to do it, they should force him to wear a leather helmet, from back in the good ole concussion friendly days!
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just kidding….but #441 is true.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
“There’s a chance, there’s a good chance,” Asomugha said. “It’s funny because I’ve been doing interviews all day and I hear a lot of people saying, ‘No longer an Oakland Raider,’ ‘You are not a …’ but anything could happen at this point.
“When you go into free agency and have options, any team is up for you to be on — and the Raiders, obviously with me having been there for so long, have a great shot at it.”
Does he want to come back?
“I would love to be back,” Asomugha said, “but I do have options so we’ll have to see what happens.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/detail?entry_id=81028#ixzz1B3DFLEfH
January 14th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
CBSSportsNFL CBSSports NFL blog
by RaidersBlog
Mike Holmgren: “You just can’t keep changing things around here every two or three years. You can’t do that.”
….
Al can.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Dell,
I think you said you work in the bay area, and I’m willing to move up north, if you are willing to hire me & pay for my MBA program at Haas.
I’m a hard worker, and I don’t demand a lot of salary. I’ll be happy with 60k and full tuition exp.
Do you drug test? LOL
January 14th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
yeah, let’s make this guy our HC!
If Rob Ryan winds up back with Oakland it won’t be because of the stats his defenses have posted. In seven seasons as an NFL defensive coordinator – five with Oakland and the past two with Cleveland – Ryan’s defenses have ranked between 22nd and 31st in total yards allowed all but one time. Raiders RapidReports
January 14th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CBRhLKOINc&feature=youtu.be
Nnamdi on Hue and Raiders on ESPN
January 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
Raiders could blow everybody else out of water with Asomugha offer, and still save big on $16.8 mil he was going to be due. Who knows?
January 14th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
RaiderO,
Dell asked me to tell you that he wasn’t trying to embarrass you the other day and he will not be on the blog for a few months.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
aso needs to stay put we are bowl bound
January 14th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Raider O,
I think you have a better shot to work for Kell, than Dell …
January 14th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
al davis calls all the shots anyway,from style of defense (4,3 man ),offense almost no shot gun,philosophy ,not sure about game plans.hires all coaches ,free agents ,drafts,starters ,media access ,he started coaching in the 60’s and still coaches today ,longest tenured coach in sports history of all sports.all hc’s know this going in they are puppets and the team belongs to him,always has and will till he dies.what you do get is a little raise in pay above assistant coaches more t.v. time and your first job title of hc,and then you get fired .so it doesnt really matter who gets the job title ,its only temporary and they know that going in .the coach has been the same for 50 years .and why not if i owned them i would call some shots too.a lot of guys want that first shot at hc,pretty much a 2 year interview for who ever will watch ,the good ones go on with their career as hc for someone else ,and then t.v. and the bad ones go to ten. and then usc
January 14th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Dakota,
Thank you for the MSG.
If you can be kind and tell Dell: He didn’t embarrass me, and I appreciate his post the other day. He is classy, and he is my Finance Guru Mentor. I also hope to see his post sooner than a few months, but I know he gets busy this time of the year. I wish him luck, and I can’t wait to see his posts again.
Thank you Dakota.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Dell runs a fortune 500 company
Kell runs a Century 21 or H&R Block in the ghetto
Which do you think is more willing to hire a car salesman college student that smokes weed, hates unions and calls everybody who disagrees with him a talking monkey?
I’m just sayin’
January 14th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
RR,
I’m a jerk, but I know my job, and I do it well. I’m great at sales, and I’m still learning finance ( I know I will be great at it since it’s my passion). I’m cheap now since I’m still learning and I lack the exp, but I will cost a lot more in a few years. I’m an investment! lol
January 14th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RaiderO,
Done.
January 14th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
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January 14th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
442.Raider O Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Raccoon,
I will do my best to make it up there next season. I wanted to take my wife, and being a student I can’t afford some luxuries. I have no excuse next season, unless I start my MBA program early (I Need a break from school, so I don’t think that will happen). I would like to find an employer who is willing to pay for my program. I get the exp I need, make money, and I don’t pay for school.
************
Check out UTC United Technologies Corp. They pay for any education, job related or not.
Specifically Carrier.
What is your major?
January 14th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
its a slow Friday before a three-day weekend; are we allowed to talk draft yet?
Here is my initial, completely biased, fully conjectured and not based on any reality thoughts about our picks in the draft, just to get the ball rolling:
R2-Stefen Wiz, Mike Pouncey or Ahmad Black(SS)
R3-Titus Young(WR), Jarvis Jenkins(DT), Marcus Gilbert (OT), Shane Vereen(RB)
R4-Owen Marecic(FB), Sione Fua(DT), Austin Pettis(WR), John Moffitt(OG), Andy Dalton(QB), Greg Romeus(DE)
R5-Noel Devine(40-time), Lee Ziemba(OG), Casey Matthews(OLB), Derek Hall(OT)
R6-James Brewer(OT), Zach Hurd(OG)
R7-Ryan Whalen(WR), Ricky Stanzi(QB)
January 14th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
O, I tried to post the links to theese two co’s but it is awaiting the big brother.
utc
carrier
January 14th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
O,
Good luck to you.
I have little doubt that one day you will stick it to BSJ and ex-military anti-gun liberal preppies nationwide!
January 14th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
w**.utc. com
w**. corp.carrier. com
January 14th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Where is Bo anyhow?
Killed himself after Mich missed out on Harbaugh and picked the nobody coach I predicted?
January 14th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
RR you should join the “Get Raider O, RR, and 4evaRaider to the Oakland Coliseum”
January 14th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Nnamdi: “There’s a good chance I could return to the Raiders.”
BSPN talking head: “But Nnamdi, our BSPN football insider Adam Scheftforbrains has said there is ZERO chance of you returning to the Raiders. Is Scheftforbrains wrong then?”
Nnamdi: “Ah, I have been expecting that one, yes he is. Mr. Davis has always said that ‘Scheftforbrains is a rumor mongoring a**hole.’ And Mr. Davis is right about that.”
January 14th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
I feel like Austin Pettis would be better for our team… More of a possesion reciever… Titus young is real nice but his nfl twin would be Jacoby Ford…We need a solid 3rd down move the chains reciever
January 14th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
we are three steps away from the SB hue and a better deffensive coach = 1 coaches 2= a vetran wr 3= secondary help
January 14th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
you should join the “Get Raider O, RR, and 4evaRaider to the Oakland Coliseum”
***
a drive from San Diego versus a flight from Podunk, Missouri with a 2 month old baby = much different scenarios bro!
I will make it back to Oakland for a game, but only God knows when … I’ll probably make the drive up to Arrowhead before that happens. Watch my boys crush it in KC again
January 14th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Thx Dakota.
RR,
LMAO you make a good argument.
I have potential!
January 14th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
5pm in Podunk – you fellas have a great weekend!
January 14th, 2011 at 3:00 pm
So I finished Dexter and am now watching Californication on netflix watch instantly…..I need to order showtime.
January 14th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RR,
Thx bro. That’s my dream. Own an empire, and sticking it to the preppies!
January 14th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
if he really said that or plans to do it, they should force him to wear a leather helmet, from back in the good ole concussion friendly days!
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Was thinking more on the line of those styrofoam bike helmets with the wind tunnel gaps in them.
of course with a cool visor
January 14th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Later RR, and enjoy your weekend.
Later Nation.
January 14th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
New post!
January 14th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Dell runs a fortune 500 company
Kell runs a Century 21 or H&R Block in the ghetto
Which do you think is more willing to hire a car salesman college student that smokes weed, hates unions and calls everybody who disagrees with him a talking monkey?
I’m just sayin’
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Kell runs a century 21?
From what I read he’s just one of a couple dozen real estate agents on the roster, all making didly until they make a sale.
He’s here a lot, it seems, so it’s doubtful sales are happenin
January 14th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Would love to get Austin Pettis on this team; great hands, fights for the ball and just seems to find openings on 3rd downs and in the endzone.
I agree Titus Young is a duplicate of Ford, but that has worked out pretty well, two is better than one.
January 14th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
478.BART Bridge Blues Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Would love to get Austin Pettis on this team; great hands, fights for the ball and just seems to find openings on 3rd downs and in the endzone.
I agree Titus Young is a duplicate of Ford, but that has worked out pretty well, two is better than one.
no more young guys we need vets
January 14th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
What Vet is out there thats worth any kind of money?
Breaston?????? Unless he’s cheap I dont wan him..
January 14th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
I’d take Ocho Cinco just because he’s hilarious…
January 14th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
If Cable is such a great coach where was all the interest in him for other coaching jobs?
For an offensive line coach we sure had quite a few penalties in that area…
January 14th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Fix the run defense. Period. everything else is a piece of cake.
January 14th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Rob Ryan is going to the DC with Cowboys. Thank God, he isn;t coming here
January 14th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Is Rob Ryan officially the biggest gut in the NFL?
Entrants on the Biggest Loser would look at Rob and say “I’m big, but damn, he’s disgusting”
January 14th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
You wanna stop the run draft Muhammed Wilkerson
January 14th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Haven’t heard a single team even interviewing Cable, for any position.
That puppet on a string tag has to suck
January 14th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
we have to get a first round pick some how some way 48 overall aint cuttin it
January 14th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
sign seymore,huff.wimbley the rest can save it
January 14th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 13th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
We’ll lose as many FA’s as the owner wants to lose, irregards to popular opinion Big Al aint stupid he knows exactly what he’s doing and why.
He has to get this right hiring a coach to say you have a coach hired is stupid if that coach is NOT the one YOU really want. There is no need to try to satisfy fans anxieties and the medias expectations the most important thing is to get it right………..period
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‘not the one you really want’?
‘has to get this right’?
‘knows exactly what he’s doing’?
are you sure your talkin about Al? Al Davis?
the guy who hired Joe Bugel?
who hired back Shell?
Callahan?
Kiffin? you are saying he wanted Kiffin? because he knew what he was doing? He interviewed kiffin as OC. wz only after he wz turned down did he settle on kiffin. He didn’t even know Kiffin’s name, and called him Lance.
I think you are confused. Big time
January 14th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
if we dont move up in the draft and still have the 48th pick they should probably go tackle walker is to old and the mario henderson projectnever pannded out kalif barnes is another teams outkast our usuall baggage
January 14th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
If this is the Raiders offensive line in 2011, Jason Campbell is going to get killed:
Veldheer – Loper – Satele – Campbell – Henderson
… but I have a feeling that’s how it’s going to end up.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
If the Raiders can afford to re-sign Asomugha, Seymour, Miller, Wimbley, and Gallery, they absolutely should.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
i say we get wisniewskis son hes pretty good or demarcus love from arkansas
January 14th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
I like that Oline with the exception of Henderson at RT. Would like to see big Langston back at that spot.
Actually wouldn’t mind seeing Walker moved over to RG with Campbell at RT.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
who sould we sign first wimbley or huff??? i say huff that guy developed leaps and bounds finally learned to wrap up an ball hawked all year long ( defeniteley got help from tommy kellys great year)
January 14th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
I’d love to see Huff back but I think he would be much more difficult to re-sign than Wimbley.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
yeah defintetley have 2 let the beast campbell out next year
January 14th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Dr.Death Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
who sould we sign first wimbley or huff??? i say huff that guy developed leaps and bounds finally learned to wrap up an ball hawked all year long ( defeniteley got help from tommy kellys great year)
should be our 3rd priority behind Nnamdi and Seymour
January 14th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
If Huff comes back, hopefully his performance in 2010 wasn’t a mirage.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
i dont think that it would be that hard its a good system for a saftey that likes action the press on the corners leave the safteys w/alot of oppertunitys and dont forget the great willie for position coach
January 14th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Miller should be franchise tagged.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
The FS in the Raiders’ system has more responsibility than any other player on the field. Huff at the very least has a lot of experience in that role, which would help if the Raider secondary looks a lot different next season.
If he walks, Jarrad Page from NE would be a solid free agent signing. He could compete with Stevie Brown for the starting spot.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Jay_Glazer Jay Glazer
by VittorioTafur
Dallas is right now trying to work out a contract for Rob Ryan to become new coordinator of the Cowboys
January 14th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
aint much u can do about the aso situation and seymore is definitley is coming back
January 14th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Miller should be franchise tagged.
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I don’t understand the infatuation with Miller..he’s only average IMO.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I don’t understand the infatuation with Miller..he’s only average IMO.
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Well he’s led the Raiders in receiving every year since he was drafted. And letting him walk opens up yet another hole on a team that already has too many.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
We had the Miller discussion earlier today.
Named 20 or so TEs in the league who could replace Miller right now.
Franchise tag????
Outta the question!
January 14th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Are those TEs free agents? Would like to see that list.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
No, not FAs.
The discussion was where Miller ranked as far as TEs in the league right now in an effort to put a value on him as a FA.
Would like to have him back, but at a fair price. Highest paid TE in the league, or even top 5?
Pass!
January 14th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
YA
Check post 257 or so ….
January 14th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Well the question really isn’t what his value around the league is. It’s his value to the Raiders.
With the amount of FAs the Raiders have and the caliber of players they are, better to lock up a young, key player for a season and worry about his long-term deal in 2012.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Earlier, Asomugha was asked his thoughts on offensive coordinator Hue Jackson possibly being named Oakland’s next head coach.
“He was with us during the 8-8 season, and that was the best season we’ve had in the last eight years. So he understands the players and knows what it takes to win. So I think bringing Hue along has to be the right choice if you’re getting rid of Tom Cable.”
January 14th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Yeah, I mean, there are some good players in that list. A few are better than Miller. Most of them are about on par with him. I don’t think Gresham or Scaife are anywhere close to the kind of player that Miller is, although at least Gresham is young.
Bottom line? Miller is a key player for the Raiders, their most reliable and experienced receiver, and there are several teams in the league who would gladly make a run at him if the Raiders let him test the free agent market. Unless Al Davis is planning on moving up to the first round and taking Kyle Rudolph from ND, there isn’t a player out there that could be brought in for less than Miller would want and have the same impact he has.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Well the question really isn’t what his value around the league is. It’s his value to the Raiders.
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Exactly, just like some people want to value Cable based on what how many interviews he’s had elsewhere.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Miller is our best rec primarily speaks to how bad our WRs have been.
Would much rather have Vincent Jackson with the $ your are proposing go to Miller.
Resign Miller at fair market value for a top 20 TE. Enough of this having to make these players the highest paid at their position to stay here.
January 14th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Miller is our best rec primarily speaks to how bad our WRs have been.
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It also speaks to the inconsistency at the quarterback position. With consistent QB play, who knows what the numbers would look like.
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Resign Miller at fair market value for a top 20 TE. Enough of this having to make these players the highest paid at their position to stay here.
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This has been going on for many, many years. That’s the state of the Raiders as an organization, unfortunately.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
YA,
I just don’t understand why a QB can complete passes to the RBs, TEs, Jacoby Ford, and Chaz (when he plays) but DHB, Murphy, JLH, etc all need better QB play.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
This has been going on for many, many years. That’s the state of the Raiders as an organization, unfortunately.
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Now’s the time to make a change in that regard.
Nnamdi, Huff, and Seymour have earned nice paydays, imo. Miller would be 5th on my list of FA priorities behind Wimbley and only ahead of Bush because he’s a starter.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
The team as a whole needs better QB play. Not any specific players.
QB play improves = all the offensive skill positions improve
January 14th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Now’s the time to make a change in that regard.
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Well the easiest ways to do that are through organizational stability and by winning consistently.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
# Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
New post!
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What is up with this guy?
Constantly blurting out stiff that isn’t true. It’s like he has typing tourettes or something.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Report: Cowboys working to sign Rob Ryan
Posted by Evan Silva on January 14, 2011, 7:06 PM EST
The Dallas Cowboys lost interim defensive coordinator Paul Pasqualoni to the head coaching position at UConn, and they’re closing in on Pasqualoni’s replacement.
According to Jay Glazer of FOX Sports, Dallas has formally begun contract discussions with in-limbo Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan. The Cowboys’ top defensive coordinator target may have been Greg Manusky, but he returned to the Chargers on Friday.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Lost in translation?
Minnesota -
Mankato 911 rec’d a call from Faisal Alshirhy with his complaint that the prostitute he had paid 200 dollars absconded with the money without performing her promised services. Alshirhy and the woman were both arrested on prostitution charges as well as public nuisance beefs. – from USA Today
can pro athletes and politicians be charged for “failure to deliver” on their promises of production after they charge hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars to unwitting clients?
“Since every pleasure’s got an edge of pain, just pay for your ticket and don’t complain.” ‘Silvio’ – B Dylan
January 14th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
Dallas plans to hire Rob Ryan as its defensive coordinator. Cowboys play at Jets next year, which means Rob Ryan at Rex Ryan.
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yeah. no return to Oakland.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
So how many dunks does Blake have on our beloved Dubs tonight?
At least 7 I would guess.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
If Rob Ryan was Al’s idea of “upgrading” the DC position, I just hope John Marshall stays…
January 14th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
If Zack Miller could block he would be a top 5 TE.
Since he is an awful blocker, he gets in the 9-15 ranger for me.
Remember the awful hold against Jax, when he wiffed on the the guy than just grabbed his jersey from behind, only the most obvious holding call ever?
Would have been nice to have those extra 4 points it cost us at the end of the game.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Looking like Hue will be HC/OC and Marshall will be renewed.
January 14th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
just a thought, why not get Zach to lose a few, move him to WR and sign another TE
January 14th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Al should consider talking Blake into being a 2 sports athlete
January 14th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
if not a big name HC – Parcells, Cowher, Gruden, Marriuchi, Edwards, Johnson, etc., then Raiders should promote Hue to HC
January 14th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
# Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
New post!
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What is up with this guy?
Constantly blurting out stiff that isn’t true. It’s like he has typing tourettes or something
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He posted that at 3:06.
You read it at 5:08, and you still rushed to see if there was a new post?
It’s two hours later, dude.
Quit with the girly posts.
Aren’t you the one who posted earlier that you got all emotional because ESPN or someone didn’t rag on the team?
now you’re posting the above?
need to grow up a little, dude.
unless your a chick?
January 14th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Marshall is a far better DC than Rob The Slob.
The Cowgirls can have Ron The Slob.
Raiders need to keep Marshall now.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
# RaiderRetribution Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
if not a big name HC – Parcells, Cowher, Gruden, Marriuchi, Edwards, Johnson, etc., then Raiders should promote Hue to HC
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long gone are the days that any big name would even glance in the direction of the east bay.
when you get assts and college coaches turning down the job, you know the image is shot
January 14th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
This is Rob Ryan’s first decent roster to play around with. Let’s just say I’ll bet you he has his best season as a DC with DeMarcus Ware and Co.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
When did we ever bring in a big named coach?
Even in the so called good ole days?
January 14th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Al isn’t even taking the calls of these so called big names. And he dam sure isn’t calling them and offering 5 or 6 million a year.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Hopefully the Raiders can move up to get another 2nd round pick.
I truly do not think we need to move up into the 1st round, even if we lose Mr. Asomugha and/or Mr. Seymour and depending on CBA, Raiders might own the entire draft board after the first round because of comensaory picks for the Raiders from losing so many FA, maybe Al hasn’t lost his touch after all.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
From what I’ve heard, the compensatory picks would be for 2012, not 2011.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Then the Raiders will promote Hue, or one possibility is NYG’s def coordinator, Perry Fewell.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Jhill I wouldn’t say that he’s not taking their calls but he’s got someone strong in his opinion in mind and I know Hue being under contract makes him feel there isn’t any rush. If he wants he can get whomever it is that he’s considering anytime within the next few months prior to the draf.
I’m really not concerned about the FA’s involved Mr Davis doesn’t lose players he wants to keep. If someone walks without being offered top dollar at his position or relatively what he’s worth then I’l assume he didn’t really wnat that player.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Y American you are correct 2012, and I knew that and meant that, just had a brain fuse blow out and forgot.
I was actually hoping that it was for 2012, but I doubted my own entusiasm and figured it was for this 2011 draft.
As this years draft is not going to be as deep as next years anyway, which would be even better for the Raiders!
January 14th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
J Hill Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
When did we ever bring in a big named coach?
Even in the so called good ole days?
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Didn’t need one, then. The Raiders weren’t the laughingstock of the league then, Al Davis wasn’t 80 years old then.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
JFB
Bill Maher’s show’s on at 7pm, HBO. You’d like it!
January 14th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Raiders core players are now:
Mr. Vehldeer LT
Mr. Houston DE/DT
Mr. McClain MLB
Mr. McFadden RB
Mr. Ford WR
Mr. Shaughnessy DE
and a promising 2010 draft class (remaining)
I like who the Raiders have to build around.
so PJ is correct, Al will keep who he wants, other teams will have to pay the $$$ and out spend AL, those that don’t Al will resign at his price, with the exception of those that chose to play for another team for other reasons, closer to hometown/family, or a stronger Super Bowl contender.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
time to go see the Green Hornet
January 14th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Yeah I was going to say, the 2012 draft is going to be better anyways. Especially for offensive linemen. Outside of a few prospects, this year’s crop of offensive tackles in particular isn’t all that great.
I like Morris from Temple and Cannon from TCU, but both those guys will likely be OGs at the next level.
Wisniewski and Moffitt are two linemen I think the Raiders should consider, especially if Moffitt ends up dropping to the fourth round. But other than those guys the Raiders might not have a lot of options, and may be better off targeting the best player available regardless of position.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Al should let Nnamdi walk and use 20 mil to get Manning.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
time to go see the Green Hornet
…………………..dont forget the popcorn!
January 14th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Muhammad Wilkerson should be looked at real close
January 14th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Some saying Al will keep whoever he wants?
Players in the past bought out their contracts, just to get out of Oaktown. Money wasn’t the issue.
non-dysfunctional was.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
All biug name coaches wee once asistants, there somegreat assistants out there capable of winning SB’s just the same as Sean Payton and Jon Gruden were. Big name only means one thing “well known” I think Raheem Morris is a perfect example. Now Leilie Frazier the landscape is filled with these types that can flat out coach but without the “BIG NAME”.
I think Hue Jackson has shown what he is capable of the only reason IMO he doesn’t have a BIG NAME is his skin color. Just keeping it real….
I think Hue is as capable as any coach we’ve ever had Shanahan, Gruden, Flores, Madden and others. In this case perception has nothing to do with reality.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
296.Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Only 6 hours until Al wakes up for the day!
GM of the year!
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FINALLY!!! Someone who “gets it”.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
lot of good that will do having a big name coach,we have the biggest name of all al davis and we did not make the playoffs.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
You can be certain when Al talks to HueJack he’ll ask why in the fhuk did you you run reverses time after time, game after game, the first play from scrimmage? Yeah, here and there, but every friggin’ game?
oh well, youse guys have already decided everything that AD thinks and believes about offenses and defenses and coaches and assistants and players and contracts and everything there is to do with the Raiders and the NFL. so then why bother? if everything is predetermined why bother?
by the way, Nostradamus had the Tuck Rule in quatrain #314.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
They all had to start somewhere the didn’t have big names before they were hired they made their names when they got the opportunity.
January 14th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
Man I hope the Jets beat the Pats
January 14th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
There goes the racist POS again, running his racist bull****.
Hue isn’t a big name because of his skin color?
HE’S NOT A BIG NAME BECAUSE HE’S DONE NOTHING IN HIS CAREER, YOU SORRY FOOL. Nothing. Zero. Amounted to squat. hasn’t excelled anywhere. How in the hell does someone who’s done nothing become a big name, you idiot?
You need to put down the bottle, Old Man.
Want to see your ignorance, in all it’s glory?
You state Hue is as capable as Madden, Flores, Gruden, all proven winners, where you then follow it with “perception has nothing to do with reality”?? lol.
You’re exactly right, Old Man, your perception of Hue has NOTHING TO DO WITH REALITY.
# priesttj Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
All biug name coaches wee once asistants, there somegreat assistants out there capable of winning SB’s just the same as Sean Payton and Jon Gruden were. Big name only means one thing “well known” I think Raheem Morris is a perfect example. Now Leilie Frazier the landscape is filled with these types that can flat out coach but without the “BIG NAME”.
I think Hue Jackson has shown what he is capable of the only reason IMO he doesn’t have a BIG NAME is his skin color. Just keeping it real….
I think Hue is as capable as any coach we’ve ever had Shanahan, Gruden, Flores, Madden and others. In this case perception has nothing to do with reality.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Neither has Harbaugh but he got 25 mill as a big name. The college game is a different sport than at this level. Harbaugh hasn’t done a thing at this level. He didn’t even win a BCS championship at his level. Yet he was bigger than coaches that have won SB’s.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Anyone wo says that race isn’t involved in this hiring process is either stupid or blind. Why do we needa Rooney Rule? it’s obvious but some retards can’t handle truth. RACISM EXIST!!!……….period
January 14th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
BHP,
at least Crazy Eyes Jimmy can call up his bro Harbaugh and Jon can tell him that this ain’t college anymore. Grown men don’t take that Mangini/McDaniels screaming very well.
For 25 mil? Uh, JimmyCrazyEyes should begin donating some of that to various foundations and charities ’cause he definitely hasn’t earned it nor is he likely to.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
On the other hand just becuz someone doesn’t like Hue it doesn’t mean they are racist.
I will judge ALL Raider coaches on their won loss record.
I don’t care if they’re black, white, red, yellow or polkadot. In fact I would prefer our next coach BE polkadot.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
The niners could’ve gotten Hue Jackson for half what they paid for Harbaugh and he’s shown what he can do at this level. All they did is bring him in to satisfy the rule and proceed to prostrate before Harbaugh’s greatness. Giving him a contract worthy of a HC who’s been there and done it.
It’s CRAZY and I love Harbaugh but no way at that price.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
If the Colts franchise tag Manning then it would come out to be about 22 million a year… IF th Franchise Tag him the next year would be 27 million….. Manning as a free agent??????
January 14th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
It’d be pretty awesome to have a Polka Dot Coach
January 14th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Amen M…
January 14th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
On the other hand just becuz someone doesn’t like Hue it doesn’t mean they are racist.
I will judge ALL Raider coaches on their won loss record.
I don’t care if they’re black, white, red, yellow or polkadot. In fact I would prefer our next coach BE polkadot.
………………..yeah i dont care what color our coach is as long as its not a woman!
January 14th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/80s/sites/tampabay.com.blogs.80s/files/images/typepad-legacy-files/50831.wildcats.jpg
January 14th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
i wouldnt want a midget as head coach either
January 14th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
I would doubt very much Al considers race in his hirings of coaches. Others, not for me to say. Al see’s a man from the inside, I am sure.
What Al is looking for in a coach is the cheap. A coach who basically will work for the minimum and take orders.
Hue probably hasn’t been named yet because Hue feels he is worth more than the cheap. Not for me to say what Hue is worth, but maybe he knows the b.s. that comes with being a Raider hc, and probably wants true value for it. Not market value, but true value for having to deal with Al ( which has to be way much more than 2 mil ).
Cables value on the open market may not be squat, but as a Raider hc he guided them to the first season of no 11 losses in 7 years, and the future looked promising. And a hc should have quality guys like Hue and co. to run a functional team. Maybe Hue knows he can be named but doesn’t want some of the cheap assts. Al has in mind.
One other quick note: who knows how Hue feels about Cables walking papers. Did he agree with it, was he taken aback by it, did he see it as an opportunity for him ( I doubt it ), did he think it was under-handed and sinister, or how does he see it? I would really like to know. But breaking the shroud of mystery behind the silver and black curtain is not easy.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
I would love a midget as a headcoach
January 14th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
566.PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
It’d be pretty awesome to have a Polka Dot Coach
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It’d be the first one in the league. Now THAT is innovation.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
BHP,
the Rooney Rule in concept is fine. Force the white boys club to open up. In practice most of it is a sham. Token interviewees and then off they go.
Glad that Leslie Frazier doesn’t have to go through the crap year after year anymore.
addendum : A Stanford profeesor just completed a process of interviewing a sample of US adults asking if any of them had done anything heroic. He found that 20% of them, by his criteria, had done so with selfless acts.
The professor also accounted by his interviews and statistics that Blacks and Hispanics were twice as likely to have performed heroic acts as Caucasians.
The professor offered some surmisals but no explanations for this finding.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
then all of his assistants would be midgets and they would all drive out on to the field and pile out of one of those little cars!
January 14th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Anyone wo says that race isn’t involved in this hiring process is either stupid or blind. Why do we needa Rooney Rule? it’s obvious but some retards can’t handle truth. RACISM EXIST!!!……….period
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I agree racism do exist, but racism has 2 sides… and you just keep on showing the other side of the coin, all the time…
Hue was a no-name in you tiny world until he was hired here as an OC for the mighty raiders with all our gratness (LOL)… had he gone to the donkoes, you would say he was still a no-name coach…
Raheem is considered as COTY, you mentioned Frazier, do I have to remind you of who won the COTY last year??? well it was Marvin Lewis, btw runner up was Lovie Smith… hmmmm what does they all have incommon!?!?
why does these guy being mentioned??? BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD AND HAVE SHOWED IT…
Hue, is a No-name coach, because he only got a 8-8 record, he couldn’t win more than TWO games outside the division and duuuuh btw he was only a goddam OC, not a freaking HC..
^^^^So thats why Hue IS a No-name and not a big-name…
January 14th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
You guys are something else with all this race battling…..
I cant wait fro the first black midget woman coach
January 14th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Confucious say,
last man standing is first man breeding after the Apocalypse.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
A Stanford profeesor just completed a process of interviewing a sample of US adults asking if any of them had done anything heroic. He found that 20% of them, by his criteria, had done so with selfless acts.
The professor also accounted by his interviews and statistics that Blacks and Hispanics were twice as likely to have performed heroic acts as Caucasians.
The professor offered some surmisals but no explanations for this finding.
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wow, great!! well I dont doubt it one bit, but btw, what color did the professor have?
well another thing, was it >heroic in a selfless act< in the eyes of the questioned person or to the study/questioneer?… because there is also a study that says belief in ones abilities, though unfunded are huge in the USA, and more within black and hispanic communities, than caucasian..
January 14th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
man with tool in woman’s mouth not necessarily dentist.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
On the other hand just becuz someone doesn’t like Hue it doesn’t mean they are racist.
I will judge ALL Raider coaches on their won loss record.
I don’t care if they’re black, white, red, yellow or polkadot. In fact I would prefer our next coach BE polkadot.
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I 100% agree, or maybe not about the polkadot-thing, that would just be plain weird =)
January 14th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
M that is a very interesting study. I wonder what was his criterion was and if it has cultural elements in the findings. Nonetheless very interesting!
January 14th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
PurpleDrank81,
I would love to have the Oaktown Raiders with the first female Head Coach. A motivator and time-out coordinator? Why’nda hell not? Doesn’t have to be black nor a midget at all.(Jessica Alba?)
January 14th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
I’ll take Jess Alba for whatever she wishes to be.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
The niners could’ve gotten Hue Jackson for half what they paid for Harbaugh and he’s shown what he can do at this level. All they did is bring him in to satisfy the rule and proceed to prostrate before Harbaugh’s greatness. Giving him a contract worthy of a HC who’s been there and done it.
It’s CRAZY and I love Harbaugh but no way at that price.
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hmmm ole BHP, sounds to me your mancrush on Harbaugh is a reason to this hissyfit!?, that and you mancrush for Hue…
or maybe you are just pissed, that your beloved 9′ers wasted money on a unproven guy from college?
January 14th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_335DKn2pO6U/Sup-NJTZQPI/AAAAAAAACCw/5CFr-852Jnk/s400/JessicaAlbaRaiderFan.jpg
January 14th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
I just love Little People LOL
January 14th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
http://img7.pimp-my-profile.com/i89/4/4/10/bn_9d16da1950.png
January 14th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
http://smartasssports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/pregnant-oakland-raiders-fan.jpg
January 14th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
BHP,
don’t know the criteria, professor’s name is Philip Zimbardo. probably find it all on line.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Al Davis would do Raider Nation right by getting Jessica on board. I don’t care what capacity, PR, HC, Raiderettes, just hire her Al.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
PurpleDrank81,
I would love to have the Oaktown Raiders with the first female Head Coach. A motivator and time-out coordinator? Why’nda hell not?
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Amy trask have had my vote for years, she could coach better than our last many coaches, and she’s obviously have more football-knowledge than his Al-ness..
January 14th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
BHP,
don’t know the criteria, professor’s name is Philip Zimbardo. probably find it all on line.
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Bwhahhahhahaa, LOL NOT him, oh, then I recall my trust in the study. LOL
he was the man with THEE experiment… you know, the prison experiment…
January 14th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
I just love Little People LOL
………….would you still like midgets if one was standing next too your girl and says your hair smells nice?
January 14th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Course Beyonce would make a pretty bad-ass Raider coach too. I doubt that would ever happen, but can you imagine anyone steppin out of line with her? No way.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
LMAO Thats Hilarious and yea I Probally would…. My fascination with Midgets is borderline Insane
January 14th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
LMN,
I agree. Amy Trask should run the org top to bottom.
as far as the study at Stanford I have no idea about the professor’s angle, but I do not doubt his findings as implausible.
January 14th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I want a Trestman-Jackson or Jackson-Trestman combination.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
LMN,
I agree. Amy Trask should run the org top to bottom.
as far as the study at Stanford I have no idea about the professor’s angle, but I do not doubt his findings as implausible.
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well, I ont either, gotta read more about it though to make such stand, but Zimbardo is a very questionable fellaw, he married his student (well who can blame him) and some say he actually have a satanic angle within him, since most his studies have made huge emotional scars in his “lab-rats” with NO care what-so-ever…
the movie ‘the experiment (2010)’ sux, but the german version from 2001 is waaay better are both based on a book about the schism in the standford prison study… Qwaaaaysiiiie! =)
January 14th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
sign T.O.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
The most courageous white man I ever knew was black. That’s all I need to know.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
# GG Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I want a Trestman-Jackson or Jackson-Trestman combination.
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Me too, but probably not like you =) if I was the owner, I would change everything except the name and the city!
Team name Oakland Raiders
Owner LMN
GM Scott Piolo
Director of Player Personnel Tom Cable
Director of College Scouting Thomas Dimitroff
HC Gary Kubiak
OC Marc Trestman
QB Coach Josh McDaniels
OL Coach Bill Callahan
WR Coach Hue Jackson
RB Coach Tom Rathman
DC Marvin Lewis
DL Coach Mike Waufle
LB Coach Jack Del Rio
DB Coach Jeff Fisher
ST Coach Brian Schneider
Kicker Coach Morten Andersen
salary, always the same amount as 16 highest paid Team players…
January 14th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
What Huff is thinking…
Huffy247 Michael Huff
I just landed and I got a text that robo is goin to Dallas…can somebody confirm or deny that report?(oh boy)
January 14th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
LMN,
when I was in Afghanistan, long before you had your deployment, it was a place of a millenium ago.
No Russians, no Gringoes, no Islamic militants.
Is what I saw less real than what you experienced?
January 14th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
# Orthodoxdj Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
The most courageous white man I ever knew was black. That’s all I need to know.
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the most courageous MAN I ever knew is dead… thats always how it ends…
its about the end-game, always is, dont matter sh1t if you are a brave 1diot, whom gets killed in the act, that doesn help those you leave behind…
the bravest man I READ about was Flashman, worlds best coward =) go read the books about him, they are hilarious =)
January 14th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
LMN,
when I was in Afghanistan, long before you had your deployment, it was a place of a millenium ago.
No Russians, no Gringoes, no Islamic militants.
Is what I saw less real than what you experienced?
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I dont understand, sorry, please elaborate.. you have lived for 1000 years? or what?
January 14th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
M..
and Im not quite sure, where and when afghanistan or deployment got into the talk, well I might have missed something…
I would like to reply, but its late, i’ll go brush my teeth, and then I hope you have explained the stuff I dont get from your previous post!?
January 14th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Anyone wo says that race isn’t involved in this hiring process is either stupid or blind. Why do we needa Rooney Rule? it’s obvious but some retards can’t handle truth. RACISM EXIST!!!……….period
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In what hiring, Racist Old Man?
You’re saying harbaugh was hired because he was WHITE?
That Hue wasn’t hired because he’s black?
Which one?
But that wasn’t even the comment, was it??
YOU STATED: “I think Hue Jackson has shown what he is capable of the only reason IMO he doesn’t have a BIG NAME is his skin color. Just keeping it real….”
my reply is he isn’t a BIG NAME because he hasn’t done one single thing in the NFL.
So, instead of having the balls to reply to the comment, you switch direction to running the racist bull**** about hiring?
Are you a fall down drunk? Seriously, you babble like you are out of it. You can’t stay on track. You can’t even reply to comments made.
All we know, for sure, is that you are a racist POS.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
M..
and Im not quite sure, where and when afghanistan or deployment got into the talk, well I might have missed something…
I would like to reply, but its late, i’ll go brush my teeth, and then I hope you have explained the stuff I dont get from your previous post!?
……………….DONT FORGET TOO FLOSS
January 14th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
C400..
I remembered! =) LOL
well night guys, take care..
M, i might get back to you with a comment tomorrow, its nearly 6AM here, so I better find the egyptian cotton and the goose down =)
Night all
January 14th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
The UFL publicly has admitted that the upstart league is having trouble making ends meet.
A memo from Commissioner Michael Huyghue to “the fans of the United Football League,” Huyghue writes that the UFL “will catch up on our bills and resolve any issues with our business partners in due course,” which is an indirect reference to: (1) the fact that players weren’t paid for the final week of the season, weeks after the season ended; and (2) Mark Cuban has recently sued for the recovery of a $5 million loan that is past due.
Huyghue also strongly implied that the league considered not proceeding with a third season. “Last week at our Board Meeting the owners agreed to fund 2011 because they believe in the UFL and they believe in the progress that we have made,” Huyghue said.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Amy trask have had my vote for years, she could coach better than our last many coaches, and she’s obviously have more football-knowledge than his Al-ness..=
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How so?
Where do you get the idea Amy trask knows anything about the NFL, at all? She’s Al’s mouthpiece in court, and not a very good one.
You know what Amy is responsible for? Her title? CEO. For Al Davis. Which means she’s a token exec who is supposed to handle finance, and admin. Duties, year to year, are in charge of ticket sales. Supposed to rep the team at meetings. But she rarely does. And the Raider attendence is dead last in the league.
So, what has Amy ever done that indicates she’s someone to respect, or notice?
John Herrera, Al’s personal puppet, is the one up front. Amy’s pretty much no where to be found.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Sources say Oakland Raiders’ Al Davis is close to naming head coach, and it appears it will be offensive coordinator Hue Jackson
By Steve Corkran
Oakland Tribune
Posted: 01/14/2011 07:43:17 PM PST
Raiders managing general partner Al Davis has wrapped up his staff evaluations and shifted his attention toward naming a new head coach. A decision is expected sooner rather than later.
That’s the word emanating from several people familiar with the situation. Barring a last-minute change of mind by Davis, offensive coordinator Hue Jackson is days away from being announced as the replacement for Tom Cable, according to several people who requested anonymity.
Davis typically is the last one to hire a coach during offseasons in which he makes a change. This year won’t be any different, as every other vacancy has been filled.
The only question appears to be when Davis springs the news and presides over a news conference for the first time in more than 16 months.
Davis commenced the interview process Monday, and he has interviewed at least one candidate. Jackson is believed to be the odds-on favorite, even if he hasn’t interviewed yet.
Jackson could not be reached for comment. However, a person close to Jackson said Jackson is prepared to be a head coach in the NFL for the first time in his career and that he fully expects it to be with the Raiders in 2011.
In other news, three-time Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said in an ESPN interview that it would be difficult to leave the Raiders after eight seasons.
He is eligible to become an unrestricted free agent, unless he and the Raiders work out a new contract before free agency begins.
Asomugha said in an interview with Sports Illustrated that he was caught off guard by the news that the option year on his contract voided because of his failure to reach any of a number of likely-to-be-earned incentives last season.
“When you’re playing to get into the playoffs, your contract is the last thing on your mind,” said Asomugha in his first interview since the season ended Jan. 2. “It wasn’t until the season ended (that) the reality of the situation set in.”
He added that he hasn’t put too much thought into which team he is going to play for in 2011.
“I’m trying not to get too caught up in it right now,” he said, citing stalled labor negotiations between NFL players and owners. “Plus, it’s my understanding that nothing can really happen until the (collective bargaining agreement) issues are resolved. … The thought of (free agency) is very new to me. It’s tough to describe. I’ve never been in this position before, ever.”
January 14th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
The most racist black man I ever knew was white.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
LMN,
when I was in Afghanistan, long before you had your deployment, it was a place of a millenium ago.
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not sure you can compare a Senior Tour Vacation stop as the same as being deployed there.
You did say you, TJPriest, Lefty, and Kool were all old as the hells, right?
I don’t think we were deployed to Afghanistan in the 60’s.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
*hills
January 14th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
what other options, besides Hue, is there?
serious options. Not hopeful, but serious options?
not much, actually.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Sign T.O.player/coach
January 14th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
If a sign post says go left do you sit and argue with it to? The NFL itself has acknowledged that racism exist. Hue Jackson turned around an offense that was non-existent and made it one of the most explosive units in the NFL. Hue has done as much as any hot named assistant in this league for one year. He also has the chance to be a apecial componenet to any team as an OC same as Jon Gruden or Mike Shanahan or tons of assistants who benefitted from similar situations. Now if you call that nothing, so be it. I’ll consider the source.
January 14th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Interesting how TJPriest disappears when he gets called out.
Some have a word for that.
Rhymes with Howard.
For the life of me, can’t recall it.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
priesttj Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
If a sign post says go left do you sit and argue with it to? The NFL itself has acknowledged that racism exist. Hue Jackson turned around an offense that was non-existent and made it one of the most explosive units in the NFL.
…………………..he has done a mediocre job 8-8 i could take the same team and go 11-5 on my worst day.i could have went 8-8 with 2009 team.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
I love the rooney rule, but I don’t think it goes far enough. I think each team should have to interview a black man, black woman, white man, white woman, Native American man, Native American woman, Asian man, Asian woman, latino man, latino woman…..and a cave man (Rob Ryan) and a cave woman (Rosie O’Donnell)
January 14th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
That good news if infact it’s accurate. This way he can go to the allstar games with the staff and get prepared for the draft. So we’ll see…
January 14th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Dakota Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
I love the rooney rule, but I don’t think it goes far enough. I think each team should have to interview a black man, black woman, white man, white woman, Native American man, Native American woman, Asian man, Asian woman, latino man, latino woman…..and a cave man (Rob Ryan) and a cave woman (Rosie O’Donnell)
…………..yeah but no midgets…..
January 14th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
M,
Islam ruled that area for centuries. Ottomans, Mughal Empire, etc….
January 14th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
He wasn’t the HC as I understand it. Correct me if I’m wrong.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
“At least one candidate was interviewed” lol
January 14th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
priesttj Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
He wasn’t the HC as I understand it. Correct me if I’m wrong.
………..cable was the head coach and called the plays it did not work ,then they brought in hue jackson and they got better, now they are going back to hue jackson head coach and calling the plays ,it aint going to work again!!!!
January 14th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Raider O has been pissed at the white man ever since Trojan conquered the Nabateans.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
388.bcz24 Says:
January 14th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Schefter said on his weekly chat that there are a lot of teams interested in Nnamdi, and more will jump in. Nnamdi has basically earned the right and respect to choose whereever he wants. The only think Schefter said he knows for sure is that Nnamdi will NOT resign with the Raiders.
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Remember he said that IF Nnamdi DOES re-sign with Raiders.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
I’d love Nnamdi to resign if for nothing else to prove Schefter wrong again.
But according to some here Schefter is ALWAYS right about the Raiders; even though i’m still waiting for McNabb to show up as the Raiders new QB.
January 14th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
or was it Trajan?
January 14th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
new post
no really….i am serious this time
January 14th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
M,
“Islamic militants” have been there for decades, but Islam ruled that area centuries ago. It’s sad what humans can do in the name of faith. I blame humans and not the faith.
I like to talk to you about Islam, when/ if you are interested. You said prophet Mohammad was a shepherd, but He was also a caravan manager & a Merchant.
October 2nd, 2011 at 8:27 pm
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