Raiders official announcment
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, January 17th, 2011 at 5:00 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A link to the Raiders’ official announcement of Hue Jackson as head coach on Raiders.com.
The press conference is scheduled for Tuesday at 1:15 p.m., according to senior executive John Herrera.
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January 17th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
FINALLY! Now, on to the DC hiring…
January 17th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
NFL Network reporting Hue is after Al Saunders for OC and Chuck Pagano (DB coach of Ravens) for DC.
Might be a hell of a staff.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
JFB – How do you know NO team fined their HC? HOW?
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Uhhhh….because I spent about 20 minutes looking it up before I typed it??
This guy!!!!
You see, that’s what I do. Before I type something, I cross check for a few minutes. That way, most all my “opinions” are at least somewhat factually relevant.
You should give it a whirl sometime.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
RT @ochocinco: Congratulations 2 Hue Jackson for becoming thee Oakland Raiders new HC. Best receiver coach I’ve ever had #continuedsucces
January 17th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Ocho will be a Raider soon enough.
This I am very confident in.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Pagano was our DB coach a few years ago before Kiffin came in and cleaned house.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RaiderDuck Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
FINALLY! Now, on to the DC hiring…
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we already have a DC. his name is al davis.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Well, My ideas for the DC spot, is more less gone… Sean McDermott goes to the Panthers, and it seems like Wannstedt is going to be the Browns DC..
who’s left?
January 17th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
YEEEEEEEEE! Cant wait for the presser!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Hmm….well at least that is settled.
Lets see if Hue can in fact, bring in his picks for coordinators.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Chad Ochocinco commences flirtation with Patriots
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 17, 2011, 7:27 PM EST
Bengals wide receiver Chad Ochocinco may or may not be on the outs in Cincinnati this offseason, depending on who you ask.
If you ask Ochocinco, he’d like to start a campaign to head to New England
January 17th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
I am hearing it’s Chuck Pagano at DC, good call Raider75. They are hoping to have the deal signed by tomorrow morning, if not tonight, in time for the presser…
January 17th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
finally
January 17th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Hue, Al Saunders, and Chuck Pagano.
We are now the Oakland Ravens.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Chuck Pagano…
Hmm..
—”In 2001, Pagano entered the NFL as secondary coach for the Cleveland Browns. In 2003, he helped the Browns tie a franchise record for the fewest passing touchdowns allowed with 13. In 2001, the secondary accounted for 28 of the Browns’ NFL-high 33 interceptions, and, in the same season, rookie cornerback Anthony Henry led the league with ten interceptions”—
—”After leaving Cleveland in 2004, Pagano spent two seasons as defensive backs coach of the Oakland Raiders. In 2006, the Raiders’ pass defensive allowed just 151 yards per game, and total defense just 285. This ranked them first and third in the league, respectively”—
January 17th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
JFB – IF you’ve already looked it up post it. I have no pride in this fight. I don’t give a sht. My opinion won’t change. Al was within his right to do so imho. That won’t change. But I find it highly unlikely you have such evidence because its almost unimaginable that such information as who exactly paid the fine would be reported. I think you’re full of sht.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Now we will be held hostage by the CBA crap! That needs to be settled ASAP!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Nice touch, to announce it on MLK Day. I’m looking forward to see the completion of his staff, the draft and next season. Haven’t felt this good in years. Let’s make it happen!!!!!!!!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
I thought that Al ALWAYS waits till AFTER the SB to announce his new HC.
Al is showing flexibility. It’s a good sign.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Al Davis, “The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation.”
January 17th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
nice coaches…
January 17th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Raiders Owner Al Davis: “The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation.”
January 17th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
OUL PATROL Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Hmm….well at least that is settled.
Lets see if Hue can in fact, bring in his picks for coordinators.
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Whoever Jax wants as OC and DC has to be cleared by crazy Al. I can he’ll tell the DC interviewee: “We’ll do man to man until I’m dead. We won’t blitz unless you sign your life it gets the QB sacked. And remember you and the HC are nothing. I am God. OK?”
January 17th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
14.Tricky70390 Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Hue, Al Saunders, and Chuck Pagano.
We are now the Oakland Ravens.
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And that’s a bad thing?
January 17th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
I wouldnt mind Pagano, kudos to him for making Chris Carr a starting CB in the NFL, I had never thought such thing would have happened..
Chris Carr won almost 2X the games as a ravens (2 season) as a raider (3 seasons)
January 17th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
22.RaiderDogg Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Raiders Owner Al Davis: “The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation.”
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Ha. Did he really say this?
January 17th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
@25
they won 12 just this year…i think he won like 10 as a raider…
January 17th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
408RAIDER Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Al Davis, “The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation.”
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and two years later, i’ll fire him whether you like him or not.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
408RAIDER Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Al Davis, “The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation.”
……………or the flames will burn down the raider nation.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
14.Tricky70390 Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Hue, Al Saunders, and Chuck Pagano.
We are now the Oakland Ravens.
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And that’s a bad thing?
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My thoughts as well
January 17th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
djohnnyg Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
22.RaiderDogg Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Raiders Owner Al Davis: “The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation.”
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Ha. Did he really say this?
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According to the Raiders Twitter account
January 17th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Hmm.
That was quick.
Figured Al would wait til after the SB.
HJ, Saunders & Pagano.
Sweet.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
OUL PATROL Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
Hmm….well at least that is settled.
Lets see if Hue can in fact, bring in his picks for coordinators.
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Whoever Jax wants as OC and DC has to be cleared by crazy Al. I can he’ll tell the DC interviewee: “We’ll do man to man until I’m dead. We won’t blitz unless you sign your life it gets the QB sacked. And remember you and the HC are nothing. I am God. OK?”
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That’s what I’m saying! You can bring in F’n Dick LeBeau and Big Al will dictate the defensive gameplan!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
I like the way this is going. I’d lost a little faith in Al after the JR debacle, but getting rid of Cable restored it. I love the fact that he fined that dumbass. It tells me that Al and I were on the same page with that guy. Hue was obviously the brain on our offensive staff and Al knew it. Time to clean house and get rid of the rest if the scrubs holding the team back. Hear that Tollner, Hackett and Grads? Pack your bags.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
14.Tricky70390 Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Hue, Al Saunders, and Chuck Pagano.
We are now the Oakland Ravens
………..when we moving too baltimore?
January 17th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Now campbell can take his game to the next level with a coach who is behind him.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
I read up on Al Saunders today. He’s been around the block. Sounds like he is in great shape for his age and could run a marathon.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
More like the Baltimore Raiders!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
ahahaah Here come the haters. Same ish different day in here.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Adam Schefter reports Al Saunders as Jackson’s likely offensive coordinator. Saunders has coached with the Rams, Chargers, Chiefs, and Redskins, spending 2009 and 2010 as the Ravens offensive coordinator. He was the Redskins’ assistant head coach in 2006 and 2007, the first two years of Jason Campbell’s career as the Skins starter. Campbell is currently on the Raiders roster.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Al davis should get credit for the recent draft picks and getting our offense going by bring hue to the raiders
January 17th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
I figured we would pluck the Baltimore tree.
I like the Saunders piece of this puzzle the best. I think he is just the experience Hue needs to add to improve his offense. Anything close to what we saw in KC is going to be golden.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
r8eray Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Adam Schefter reports Al Saunders as Jackson’s likely offensive coordinator. Saunders has coached with the Rams, Chargers, Chiefs, and Redskins, spending 2009 and 2010 as the Ravens offensive coordinator. He was the Redskins’ assistant head coach in 2006 and 2007, the first two years of Jason Campbell’s career as the Skins starter. Campbell is currently on the Raiders roster.
well if Adam Schefter says its gold!!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
As I remember Campbell was not very good in the Saunders offense, Redskins actually first took off, when Campbell got hurt, and Todd Collins entered..
January 17th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Well at least some continuity…
Now how long until we fire this guy!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Repost:
39.TerrapinRaider Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Dude …Al Saunders is widely acclaimed around the league. At first I forgot who it was although I recognized the name. But memory came back and this guy is a guru of offenses. Washington paid him $6mm under Gibbs. He was the asst head coach during the Greatest Show on Turf. He ran the KC offense in the early 2000s, which as a juggernaut! It was the top offense in the NFL for consecutive years running!!!!!
Holy sht man …this would be a major coup …my goodness. Its Al SAUNDERS!!! In offensive circles thats the equivalent of Mike Martz’s reputation, or Cam Cameron, or Norv Turner himself as OC. This is big.
Now I’m probably too damn excited. Hope these boys don’t let me down. It may be a shortened season which will have impact. Just don’t let the Nation down. Go get ‘em. SB BABY!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
r8eray Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
Adam Schefter reports Al Saunders as Jackson’s likely offensive coordinator. Saunders has coached with the Rams, Chargers, Chiefs, and Redskins, spending 2009 and 2010 as the Ravens offensive coordinator. He was the Redskins’ assistant head coach in 2006 and 2007, the first two years of Jason Campbell’s career as the Skins starter. Campbell is currently on the Raiders roster.
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I think Cam Cameron is the OC at Baltimore
January 17th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Cam Cameron is the OC in Baltimore, Saunders had a similar role to Hackett there.
Saunders is the best of these hires so far. He has been and could be an OC in a lot of other places.
Hue and Pagano are not hot items as HC’s or DC’s.
As long as we do well in the draft though, we should be OK. Our division is one of the weakest in the league.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
AFAIR before Al Saunders joined Redskins, he was interviewed by Al..
January 17th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Last time I checked the Ravens had a lot of success. More than we have had lately.
Borrowing from a successful organization, adding your own “Committment to Excellence” and rich, storied history, and you have a recipe for Super Bowl success.
*ALERT!!! The persons who come on here and say things like “What Storied history”? Are not Raider fans in the first place. Be aware!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Is the “Happy Buzz” back in Raiderland???
January 17th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Cable’s MO was the line of scrimmage. Our D-line dominated most of the season, and our O-line humilated our opponent every one of our division games this year.
Hue’s specialty is WR’s and QB’s. Let’s hope he can continue what Cable preached and got results in at the LOS, but do what Cable couldn’t, and bring our passing game out of the cellar of the NFL.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
at least we will have the first pick in 2012!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
As I remember Campbell was not very good in the Saunders offense, Redskins actually first took off, when Campbell got hurt, and Todd Collins entered..
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Saunders play book is 700+ pages…
JC was probably overwhelmed.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
The idea of Hue at HC has grown on me. Its too bad b/c I liked Cable but Hue has a higher ceiling as a HC. If these rumors about hte staff are true, I will be even happier because it seems like they are really trying to put a quality staff together
January 17th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Djohnnyg Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Is the “Happy Buzz” back in Raiderland???
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Absolutely! Having a loser like Cable on the sidelines sucked. Glad Al finally fixed it. Should have happened in 2009, but better late than never. I’m very excited to see what Hue can due in his 2nd season.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Yeah every body knew this the minute Cable was fired. Al Saunders? That guy is almost as old as Al! Thank God it wasn’t Rob “Prevent D” Ryan. Pagano? Why would he leave BAL to come to Dysfunction Junction?
January 17th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
52.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Cable’s MO was the line of scrimmage. Our D-line dominated most of the season, and our O-line humilated our opponent every one of our division games this year.
Hue’s specialty is WR’s and QB’s. Let’s hope he can continue what Cable preached and got results in at the LOS, but do what Cable couldn’t, and bring our passing game out of the cellar of the NFL.
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mike waffle gets credit for the d-line.cable the o-line but pass blocking in a problem.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
why does NO ONE seem to understand that tom cable and the offense wasn’t the problem? once again(an this sounds like a broken record) the defensive scheme is a complete joke. there was no need to fire a popular coach when the defense consistanlty ranks in bottom 4 of the league; ESPECIALLY with the personel on that defense. al davis’ out-dated man-to-man, rush four scheme does not work in the modern game. how amny coaches is he gonna fire before he buys a fVckin’ mirror?
5-11, piss-poor run defense…
January 17th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Hue has been Al’s pet for the last year, hopefully b/c Al likes him so much he will get a little more freedom and say so on how things are run. Dont want to get my hopes up too much though
January 17th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
57.joker94583 Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Yeah every body knew this the minute Cable was fired. Al Saunders? That guy is almost as old as Al! Thank God it wasn’t Rob “Prevent D” Ryan. Pagano? Why would he leave BAL to come to Dysfunction Junction?
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only espn says don`t go to the raiders.there is only 32 teams you better promote when asked.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
63 is old….but not that old!
He still looks good!!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gQbLhYQDz7U/TPCD_42dXlI/AAAAAAAAD6g/c7a8I25_M38/s1600/old%2Bman%2Bmuscle.jpg
January 17th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
# Raiders for life Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
As I remember Campbell was not very good in the Saunders offense, Redskins actually first took off, when Campbell got hurt, and Todd Collins entered..
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Saunders play book is 700+ pages…
JC was probably overwhelmed.
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true, and Todd Collins were a backup in KC when Saunders were there, so he had an advantage book-wize..
JC was overwhelmed by Hues playbook, so even if Saunders book about 700 pages, he must like that there will be “some” familiarity…
January 17th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
mike waffle gets credit for the d-line.cable the o-line but pass blocking in a problem.
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I agree that Waufle does deserve a lot of credit.
Can’t ignore the fact that Cable preached being tough and winning the LOS of scrimmage and in the SEA game, both DEN games, the 2nd KC and SD games at the very least, those teams got completely humilated at the LOS for 60 minutes.
Completely pushed around all game.
Cable had his faults no doubt, but Hue has to build upon this next year. Job #1 is to continue to manhandle our division opponents at the LOS like we did in 2010.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
100PercentRaider Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Hue has been Al’s pet for the last year, hopefully b/c Al likes him so much he will get a little more freedom and say so on how things are run. Dont want to get my hopes up too much though
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Don’t know if it has anything to do with liking him. I think Al recognizes coaching talent and “respects” Hue Jackson. Compared to Cable, I bet Hue looks like Albert Einstein on the chalkboard.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
More “coaches” no other team was interested in. The 49ers only interviewed Hue cuz he’s black and they had to, may as well make it someone close. Saunders is old and done, another dust farter like Davis himself. Al was so sure Harbaugh would sign with the Raiders that he figured he didn’t have to contact him. Harbaugh never had the Raiders on his radar, he’s way too smart. Wasn’t Saunders on the Raiders staff in the 70’s & early 80’s? Hey Al, it’s 2011! Remember?
January 17th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
al must have been druged by one of his assistants and told al the superbowl is over you can name a head coach now!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
JFB,
Since you are our head of propoganda for our Oline, what do you think about the idea floated around putting Veldheer back at C and us signing Gaither to play LT?
Gaither-Loper-Veldheer-Campbell-Walker
January 17th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Jackson Fired in Oakland”
(A.P)-
In an unprecedented move, the Oakland Raiders today fired their Head Coach Hue Jackson.
This is the shortest tenure of any Raider head coach, and the second shortest in league history. The Raiders also hold that distinction after Manager of the General Partner Al Davis fired HC Vern “Cramp” Gerstherfer after the 2002 season. Gersthefer, an insurance salesman, not only had no HC experience at any level in organized sports, but reportedly had no personal interest in sports altogether. “Crampy”‘ as he was known to friends, earned the nickname for his distinctive whining whenever called upon to participate in any physical activity beyond going back and forth to the bathroom, was the Raider HC for a mere 5 minutes beifre being releived of his duties.
He was subsequently sued by Al Davis for the entire cost of the “Happy Meal” he had consumed during his tenure as the Raider field chief.
After spending nearly $ 300,000 on legal expenses as part of the lengthy litigation process, Mr. Davis dropped the suit, citing his kind affection for insurance agents. ‘let bygones be bygones I always say’ quipped Mr. Davis at the end of the process. ‘I’m just glad it’s finally over” said “Crampy” who then was able to get on with the business of selling illegal insurance policies.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
well so far it has been a good day… (if the OC and DC rumors are true)
oh and yesterday we won a golden globe
January 17th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
about time they fired him!
January 17th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
well so far it has been a good day… (if the OC and DC rumors are true)
………………if adam schefter says its true its true gospel true
January 17th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Since you are our head of propoganda for our Oline, what do you think about the idea floated around putting Veldheer back at C and us signing Gaither to play LT?
Gaither-Loper-Veldheer-Campbell-Walker
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I think Satele graded out as a top 10 center and Jered made the all-rookie team as a LT.
Why on earth would you mess with that?
Gaither?? Did he even take a snap this year?
He’s an injury prone headache, I liked the no more knuckleheads approach and would stick with it.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
66.joker94583 Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
More “coaches” no other team was interested in. The 49ers only interviewed Hue cuz he’s black and they had to, may as well make it someone close. Saunders is old and done, another dust farter like Davis himself. Al was so sure Harbaugh would sign with the Raiders that he figured he didn’t have to contact him. Harbaugh never had the Raiders on his radar, he’s way too smart. Wasn’t Saunders on the Raiders staff in the 70’s & early 80’s? Hey Al, it’s 2011! Remember?
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does it matter if nobody wants these coaches.nobody wanted mike tomlin of pittsburgh or more recent the guy at auburn,the alumni didn`nt even want him.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
68.J Hill Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
JFB,
Since you are our head of propoganda for our Oline, what do you think about the idea floated around putting Veldheer back at C and us signing Gaither to play LT?
Gaither-Loper-Veldheer-Campbell-Walker
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NO. Gaither @ RT would not be bad, but the kid Veldheer is a LT, NOT a C.
For once T is not the biggest need on our line. G is. If we do lose Gallery, we may need two.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Why on earth would you mess with that?
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I heard this propoganda about Veldheer regressing at LT the 2nd half of the season.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
adam schfeter report is something you can bet your house on.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Hue+Campbell= < 8-8
January 17th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Saunders would then join the St. Louis Rams coaching staff. From 1999-2000 he served as the wide receivers Coach under Dick Vermeil and later as assistant head coach under Mike Martz. During this period, the Rams won Super Bowl XXXIV in 2000
Saunders would rejoin the Kansas City Chiefs in 2001 as the offensive coordinator when Vermeil came out of retirement. In his second stint with the Chiefs, Saunders built the NFL’s top offense, which was ranked #1 in the NFL from 2002–2005
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I’m feeling optimistic
January 17th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
What I would like to see:
Veldheer – Gallery – Satele/Wisniewski – Wisniewski/Campbell – Ryan Harris
January 17th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Nobody wanted Tomlin??
He was the 2nd youngest DC in the history of the NFL before coming a HC!!! A twenty something DB coach for the Bucs Super Bowl team. He was a rising prospect in the NFL.
This whole Rooney Rule thing with Tomlin is another often-posted myth on here.
Rooney already interviewed a minority candidate to satisfy the rule before interviewing Tomlin.
FACT
January 17th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Satele is a FA, and I don’t know if he fits what Hue and Saunders will be looking for at C. Heck he just might for all we know.
But was Veldheer to C something Cable wanted, or Al?
I just hope we don’t see Mario Henderson back at LT if Veldheer does get moved back to C.
With a whole offseason to practice the position, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him moved back to C. Not saying it should happen. Just all things considered, wouldn’t be surprised.
January 17th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
I am feeling VERY optimistic! And, excited! GO RAIDERS!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
its probably not offical till al davis press conference tomorrow too announce hue johnson as the next raiders head coach!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I think the Veldheer at Center was an Al thing that got completely botched by Cable. No proof of course, just speculation considering the media story that went out proclaiming Raider centers of old being just as big as Veldheer. That had Davis’ mark on it if you ask me.
I also think Veldheer can be a dominant Center in this league. He has issues with the better pass rushers in teh league which causes the penalties.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
What do you think JHill? Many will disagree with me; but they are only looking at it from what happened opening day. That f’ up was all on Cable for not giving him enough practice at center before starting.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Per Wikipedia-
“The Al Saunders offense, an Air Coryell offense, requires a quarterback with a very accurate sense of timing and trust with the receiver which could not be replicated in Washington during Brunell’s 2006 season.”
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Well that sure doesn’t sound like a description of Jason Campbell and our receivers….
January 17th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Confucius400 Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
its probably not offical till al davis press conference tomorrow too announce hue johnson as the next raiders head coach!
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too funny!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
All of this hooplah will be meaningless if Al continues to meddle and micromanage. This staff seems pretty good on paper, but if Al starts to undermine and steal coaches thunder, then we can get ready for a replay of the last few regimes.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Saunders as OC
Pees as DC
Is would be ok.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Why do you even bother to write this?There is nothing here, it’s an embarassment.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Veldheer sure seemed much more comfortable at T than C.
I only think you move him to C if he regresses further at LT.
I really hate the whole moving guys around thing. Veldheer was a LT in college, and played well at LT in his rookie year. Keep him there.
Draft a guy who played RT in college, and play him at RT. Leave your centers as guys who played C for years.
Just my opinion.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
JFB,
I hope we continue the smashmouth approach on defense, but I’d like to see more of a passing game on offense. I’d like to see us get some underneath routes for our WRs that allow them to get YAC. Would like to see us mix in some TE and WR screens as well.
I think all this will open up our run game even more as it will be against 6 men in the box instead od 7 and 8.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
J was right! They (Al & Hue ) are trying to steal coaches from the Ravens. I like it.
Fire Lal and Roll!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
With Hue and now Saunders running the Offense, you can bet your last dollar we drafting a QB in April.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Veldheer isn’t going back to center. Played much better at tackle than C and I don’t think he played c since like high school before that move. Plus he’s like 6′8″ which doesn’t lend to getting necessary leverage against the 350 pounders lined up at NT. Plus Satele played very well in 2010. Arguably our best lineman this year.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Looked at my work schedule for tomorrow and I am giving a presentation at a community center in ABQ tomorrow.
Name of the center? John Marshall community center,lol.
I will pour some beer out at the front door.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
81.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Nobody wanted Tomlin??
He was the 2nd youngest DC in the history of the NFL before coming a HC!!! A twenty something DB coach for the Bucs Super Bowl team. He was a rising prospect in the NFL.
This whole Rooney Rule thing with Tomlin is another often-posted myth on here.
Rooney already interviewed a minority candidate to satisfy the rule before interviewing Tomlin.
FACT
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name me 1 football team other than pittsburgh that wanted tomlin just 1,you got 31 teams to pick from.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Pouney or Wisniewski should be available in the 2nd.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
LMAO Vegas!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Would like to see us mix in some TE and WR screens as well.
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Your not running any WR screens with 350 pound lineman.
You need the Satele, Carlisle, Veldheer’s and even Bruce Campbell’s of the world firing off the LOS and getting out in time to get a piece of the DB and/or LB on those plays.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
check that – Pouncey
January 17th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Terrapin,
I was on board with Veldheer at C. I agreed with the notion that he would be a more powerful guy there. I can see the experience thing being an issue for some posters on here.
Personally, I was all for ANYONE not named Mario Henderson, Satele, or Carlisle last offseason.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
LOL JFB!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Veldheer made the all-rookie team at LT why on earth would you move him? The kids future is at LT and I also think we have a RT in Mario now that his most ardent detractor is gone. Mario is a physical talent not a ZBS player give him the chance RT and I’m telling ya’ he’ll be very good. I want to Bruce Campbell at RG or you can flop those two and make the right side of line very good.
Satele played damn good football as the seaon wore on. I woulkd like a FB capable of the things OO did when he was right. Let Reece play TE and HB. Add a WR so when Chaz goes down we’re not hurting. And the offense is ready to go.
I think we have a edge rusher in Jarvis Moss if we can get another stud LB we are on our way.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
92.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Veldheer sure seemed much more comfortable at T than C.
I only think you move him to C if he regresses further at LT.
I really hate the whole moving guys around thing. Veldheer was a LT in college, and played well at LT in his rookie year. Keep him there.
Draft a guy who played RT in college, and play him at RT. Leave your centers as guys who played C for years.
Just my opinion.
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Only move veld if he sucks in 2011. He earned another year. I think he’s gonna be ALOT better.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
is it just me, or do the Raiders not utilize the slot receiver – ala wes welker style?
i think we should throw Ford in the slot and utilize the “great” speed of DHB to open things up underneath.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Hue!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgNREzBAnY4
January 17th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Keep Waufle as DL coach.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
95.504 Raider Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
With Hue and now Saunders running the Offense, you can bet your last dollar we drafting a QB in April.
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Thats the best news all day.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
name me 1 football team other than pittsburgh that wanted tomlin just 1,you got 31 teams to pick from.
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He was a 34 year old Defensive Co-ordinator for the #1 ranked rushing defense in the Vikings, won a Super Bowl with the Bucs and was part of the Dungy coaching tree.
He was going to be a HC very soon and the Steelers beat everyone to the punch. He was interviewed by the Dolphins that same offseason for the HC gig.
He was widely considered a rising star in the NFL on the defensive side of the ball, similar to Hue on the offensive side of things.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Veldheer was out backup C this year.
Got some snaps in there a few games when Satele would go down with injuries.
Veldheer at C is not out of the question folks. Satele is a FA!
Technically, Veldheer is our only C on the roster at the moment, lol.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Not just you Soul Patrol.
Agree 100%!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Jhill I’m not sure what you have against Satele, but he played very well last year there was no way we would gotten that kind of play out Veldheer at that position. Veldheer is a OT that is his natural position to move him would be counterproductive.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
95% of Chaz’s offseason should be spent in a swimming pool. All the way up to opening day kickoff. He should arrive at the stadium soaking wet looking like an albino prune.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Al Saunders looks pretty intimidating. Marine background & all. Not the most flattering image but my guess is that’s not a priority to him. Love the (alleged) hire. Hopefully he & Hue can coach up the WR’s (I know; what do I think Hue was trying to do last season? Kinda like what Cable had to do with the OL in 2009).
Pagano plays into the Raiders’ emphasis on DB play. Hopefully he has something to say about gap control. Seems pass defense wasn’t the prime concern.
Works only if Waffle is retained as DL coach. However, with Pagano’s lack of clout hopefully an “inheritance” like this would come with the deal.
Gaither would solidify the Raven connection as well as add to the Raider Terripan affiliation.
Let Gallery go. If available Logan Mankins is the guy you want. Then move Walker over to RG. In the six weeks or so he filled in for Gallery @ LG he surely didn’t embrass himself, something I think we’d get a healthy dose of with Bruce Campbell (he of the not quite ready for prime time players) would provide.
Come to think of it, avoid the former Terrapins @ all cost!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
is it just me, or do the Raiders not utilize the slot receiver – ala wes welker style?
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I heard Chris Carter talk about how he is suprised more teams don’t go with a big slot WR like Colston in New Orleans. I kind of agree with him.
I like Chaz as a slot WR. Hopefully he is in one of Romanowski’s bubble chambers right now for the next 5 months.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Priest,
Satele is a FA is all I’m saying. Only C on the roster right now is Veldheer.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Satele is do a pay-raise.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
That was just one of the series of problems that I had with Cable to play that kid at C the first game of the year was very stupid. It almost seems i he did things to aggravate Mr Davis
January 17th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
-resign our key FA.
-Draft OL, CB, WLB, DT, and QB.
-Sign OL, CB, and a QB in FA.
-keep Campbell, and don’t resign Bruce, Frye, or Boller.
-Cut CJ, and don’t resign Routt.
Promoting Hue was a good move, add a good DC and a good staff, fire Lal & Roll, and keep Waufle as DL coach.
Make it happen Al.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
like Chaz as a slot WR. Hopefully he is in one of Romanowski’s bubble chambers right now for the next 5 months.
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nice!!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
If Satele and Gallery both move on…Veldheer moves to center, we’re talking about potentially replacing the whole O-line.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
119.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Satele is do a pay-raise.
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I’d rather have a rookie.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
If Satele and Gallery both move on…Veldheer moves to center, we’re talking about potentially replacing the whole O-line.
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gotta re-sign these guys!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
LET THE DEBATE BEGIN ON WHO THE NEXT HEAD-COACH WILL BE IN 2-3 YEARS..
January 17th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
If Satele and Gallery both move on…Veldheer moves to center, we’re talking about potentially replacing the whole O-line.
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gotta re-sign these guys!
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well, Gallery for sure. Maybe draft a center.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Let’s bring in Saunders and a good DC.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
111.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
name me 1 football team other than pittsburgh that wanted tomlin just 1,you got 31 teams to pick from.
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He was a 34 year old Defensive Co-ordinator for the #1 ranked rushing defense in the Vikings, won a Super Bowl with the Bucs and was part of the Dungy coaching tree.
He was going to be a HC very soon and the Steelers beat everyone to the punch. He was interviewed by the Dolphins that same offseason for the HC gig.
He was widely considered a rising star in the NFL on the defensive side of the ball, similar to Hue on the offensive side of things.
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he got offered 1 head coaching job (pittsburgh) just like hue(raiders),so again i asked you what does it matter if nobody wants.you just killed your own arguement.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
well, Gallery for sure. Maybe draft a center
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Raiders need a back up center for sure. Moving Veldheer to C is not answer.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Raccoon,
I agree. Draft a C, and try to resign Satele for cheap. If he wants a lot of money, then we cab add a FA to compete with the rookie.
How do you like the coaching moves so far, and who do you like for OC & DC?
January 17th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
he got offered 1 head coaching job (pittsburgh) just like hue(raiders),so again i asked you what does it matter if nobody wants.you just killed your own arguement.
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?????????
You said NOBODY wanted Tomlin.
I’m telling you he was a top flight up and coming head coaching prospect. One of the youngest DB coahces EVER. One of the youngest DC’s EVER. One of the youngest HC hires, EVER. Youngest coach to win a Super Bowl EVER.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Anybody seriously worried about losing Satele, the only way we lose him is if we want to and it doesn’t make sense when that psition is settled and you can contin ue to biuld the rest of the roster.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
A lot of good OL in free agency. Should have plenty of cash with no first round pick. Whole right side of Atlanta’s line is available. Then there is Gaither and the guard from N.O.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
What’s up RAIDER NATION!
Just read the good news and am happy we can get on now with the task of preparing for next year. Should be a great year next year! We have the players and we’ll soon have a solid staff ready to go.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Will be interesting to see if Wiz 2.0 plays any C in any of the senior bowl type games.
He didn’t take a single snap at C in 3 of his 4 years in college, including his senior year.
He is on record saying he wants to play G in the NFL.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Nice to see mosy of us are upbeat abut the announcement so let’s keep the ball and momentum rolling.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
HC: Hue
OC: Saunders
DC: I like Marinelli, Zimmer, Moss, Perry, and Pagano.
DL: Waufle.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
132.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
he got offered 1 head coaching job (pittsburgh) just like hue(raiders),so again i asked you what does it matter if nobody wants.you just killed your own arguement.
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You said NOBODY wanted Tomlin.
I’m telling you he was a top flight up and coming head coaching prospect. One of the youngest DB coahces EVER. One of the youngest DC’s EVER. One of the youngest HC hires, EVER. Youngest coach to win a Super Bowl EVER.
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i`m lost,you compare tomlin to hue but you don`t want hue because nobody else wants him.the 49ers interview hue you say it`s the rooney rule,miami interviews tomlin and it`s not the rooney rule.how do you know?i know one thing miami hired cam cameron head coach not tomlin.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
How about Ryan Cahill? Dude is a good center. Would be a steal if would could land this guy and Nicks foam the Saints.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I can’t stress enough how important it’s to keep Waufle!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Also make a hard push for Chad Greenway.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
i`m lost,you compare tomlin to hue but you don`t want hue because nobody else wants him.the 49ers interview hue you say it`s the rooney rule,
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I never said any such thing.
I think the 49ers were serious about hiring Hue if they couldn’t get Harbaugh, but had to do his interview first so they could actually offer Jim a contract.
I never said I didn’t WANT Hue, I just preferred him as OC and Cable as HC for one more year. If Cable was not re-signed, I said a million times on here to hurry up and hire Hue.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
Our entire DL was playing a a high level all season. I think Henderson should stay for the vet min, but we should also add a DT in later RDs to keep our DTs fresh in the 4th Q.
I think we should keep Houston at LE, and Bryant is another UT tweener. Like Seymour and Houston, Bryant can play DE too.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
o.k. i wrong .we both like hue so lets move on and support him.
p.s. i did not like cable thought he under-achieved with this team.5-4 in first place at the bye.than managed to finish 3rd.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
I have my reservations about Hue as play-caller, but if he hands that off to Al Saunders, that should work well.
I just really saw the effect Cable preached being a phyically dominant team at times. We completely punked our entire division. Who goes on the road to San Diego and throws like 16 passes and blows them off the field?
It was nice to see, and I think Cable deserves a lot of credit for it. If it continues and increases next year, than we will see that Cable doesn’t deserve credit for it. If we go a little softer, than we certainly know he did deserve credit it.
That’s been my stance from the jump.
January 17th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Jeff Fisher wishes hue good luck with vince young!
January 17th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RDE: Scott/ Matt S
DT: Seymour, Bryant
DT: TK, ?
LDE: Houston, and Wimbley in passing situations.
WLB: ?
MLB: McClain
SLB: Wimbley
CB: Nnamdi, McFadden/ ?
CB: ?, ware
Ss: Branch, MM, S Brown.
We have to resign Nnamdi, Wimbley, and Seymour. We should try to resign Huff too, but not before we resign those 3.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
I don’t get the “underachieving” by bringing a team to it’s best record in 7 years.
IMO, this was an overachieving team. Hadn’t finished over .500 divsion in 7 years and swept them. Hadn’t beat SD in 5 years and swept them. Hadn’t finished with over 5 wins in 7 years and got 8.
I don’t hang that all on Cable, clearly the players deserve a lot of credit, as well as Davis for nailing the draft and not going crazy in free agency.
I’m just not going to scape-goat Tom Cable until this team does better than 8-8.
We go 10-6 next year, I will gladly change my tune and dump on Cabes, lol.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
FA FS Jarrad Page should be brought in to compete for the FS spot with Brown (assuming Huff leaves)
Mitchell, Brown, and Branch should all compete for SS.
Depending on if Nnamdi and Routt stay, the 2nd round pick should either be OLB Greg Jones, the best man-to-man CB available, or C/OG Stephen Wisniewski.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
McShay said Greg Jones hurt his stock more than any other player in all of the bowl games.
Guess he looked awful against Alabama and he said he fell into the 3rd or 4th rounds in his opinion.
He is isn’t the be all end all on these things of course though. Just some food for thought.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
136.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 6:39 pm
Will be interesting to see if Wiz 2.0 plays any C in any of the senior bowl type games.
He didn’t take a single snap at C in 3 of his 4 years in college, including his senior year.
He is on record saying he wants to play G in the NFL.
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Great, draft him to play LG if Gallery goes, if Gallabust stays play him @ RG.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
JFB
Your opinion is as good as mine but this is my opinion. We haven’t beaten SD in SD since 2001 and we did it last year with a new OC and we did it too all of the division opponents for the first time since who knows when with a new OC. Seems to me the new OC made a huge difference and the owner knows more than anyone in here and he is extactic to hire this new OC as his HC.
When he hired Cable he needed an assistant to tell him about the guy during the presser. I knew then it was for one reason he had a young team that didn’t need to wonder about the new coach they needed someone they were familiar with.
This time he brought someone in from the outside and groomed him for the HC position. He never makes statements brfore his pressers and I can’t ever remember him being this positive about anyone. That statement he released was way out of character. It just shows he really likes this guy Hue Jackson.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Welcome Coach Jackson…
Now lets get us a playoff spot!
January 17th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Seems like a year since Cable’s contract wasn’t renewed. Al hasn’t moved this fast since???
OK Al, next priority…lead the owners and ratify the CBA.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
McShay said Greg Jones hurt his stock more than any other player in all of the bowl games.
Guess he looked awful against Alabama and he said he fell into the 3rd or 4th rounds in his opinion.
He is isn’t the be all end all on these things of course though. Just some food for thought.
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So I’ve heard, I watched a little bit of that game but didn’t really notice him. Maybe that’s part of it?
January 17th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
What a buch of pathetic whiners and babies…Mr. Al Davis hired Hue today because it was MLK day!! Mr. Davis is a visionary!! He sees things before any of you even think about them..He is a man that has been color blind his whole life!! It was a day for this symbolic hire of a man whose skin is black, but whose blood is red…Congratulations Coach Jackson….As always, Mr. Davis….Done with class and dignity…..Semper Fi….Silver and Black!!!!!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Vegas,Raider O and the rest of The Nation..how’s it going, fellas?
Kinda seems like the tide is staring to turn, huh. Not so much doom and gloom around here. I like the direction the coaching staff is starting to take, if Saunders is indeed hired.
I was all for giving Cable one more year, but that’s water under the bridge now. Let’s see if Hue and his staff can take this talented young team to the next level.
The AFC West is right there for the taking.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Priest,
Can’t disagree with you their. Hue deserves a lot of credit for this offense and the competiveness he brought to things.
But Hue’s background is in QB and WR’s, and we didn’t beat our division opponents with some fancy passing offense and getting huge games from our WR’s.
We won those games by being tough, and running the ball play after play behind our O-line.
I say that has a lot to do with Cable. I will meet you half way and say Hue and Cable (long-time friends and colleagues) deserve to split the credit for the LOS dominance in those games.
Until I see our team dominate that way without Cable, which could easily be done a few months into the season, I give him credit for it until proven otherwise.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
How bad will Hue J fell if he can’t get this team to
9-7 or better? The fat monkey did 8-8, and 6-0 in AFC West. If HuJac doesn’t get us to the playoffs he will/should be fired. Hell save the time, fire him now.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
“That’s why I came to the Raiders, was to improve, but we didn’t improve fast enough …,” Jackson said late in the season. “We expect to be challenging for the playoffs, challenging for our division year in and year out, and we’re not getting that done, so, to me, that’s a disappointment. There’s either first place or there’s last place, and there’s no in between.”
That was a far different tone than the one expressed by Cable, who notably pronounced “you can’t call us losers anymore,” after the Raiders capped the 8-8 campaign by beating the AFC West champion Kansas City Chiefs in the season finale.
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Statements like these can get you hired and fired, respectively.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
glad to read folks know we need a center .i like the obvious pouncey and wiesnewski.i see b. campbell rg. find a good rt.in free agency (best available)haven’t had a center since b.robb . if campbell the man (i don’t have a problem wit this)he needs a line like gannon had … the offense will be unstoppable
January 17th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
62.r8eray Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
63 is old….but not that old!
He still looks good!!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gQbLhYQDz7U/TPCD_42dXlI/AAAAAAAAD6g/c7a8I25_M38/s1600/old%2Bman%2Bmuscle.jpg
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some of yall talkin sh!t about saunders need to quit. lookin at that picture id say he could whup yall azz!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Hey Guys, this is the one year anniversary of the Mike and Mike live on air slip up of when Greenberg said “Martin Luther Coon Day.”
January 17th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
credit hue jack for getting rid of the zbs which didn’t allow dmac and bush to excell in the power running blocking scheme he was hired to implement
January 17th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Is that photo really Al Saunders? If so, I bet Sanjay Lal and Brad Roll wet their pants when they see him.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
AD: Herrera.
H: Yes, Mr. Davis
AD: Make sure my dentures are clean for the presser on Tuesday. Make sure I wear the same jacket I did for Lance’s going away press conference.
H: Yes, Mr. Davis. Anything else.
AD: I almost forgot. Make sure to bring the overhead projector in case Jackson gets out of hand and I have to fire him for cause.
H: Great idea, Mr. Davis.
AD: Herrera, what is Jackson’s first name.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
FINALLY!
Chuck Pagano would be a good hire as DC, but I hope Hue calls most of the plays on offense with input from old man Saunders.
I would rather see Pees be the DC though….but Pagano has worked for the Raiders before.
I don’t trust Saunders calling most of the plays.
I’m assuming Hue Jacksons’ offense playbook and terminology will remain also….which is a good thing.
They need to get a better WR coach in there as well.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
JFB Well let me inform you about the Oline last year and teh running game under Cable’s watch. WE struggled badly both in protection and running game. With two of the most talented RB’s in the game. He almost NEVER used Bush and we gave up a ton of sacks. This year we change to a much more aggresive power blocking system with traps and pulls. All of a sudden DMC is a top flight HB with MVP capabilities.
The Dline Cable wouldn’t know from beans. Get a clue……that is Wauffles dept. If Cable was so instrumental he wouldn’t have praised Hujack in the way that he did. Hujack contrary to your opinion is well versed in OLine play in fact the entire offense was his baby. That is the responsibility of any OC while he has position coaches the concepts and schemes are his.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
AD when i first met hue jefferson i knew someday he would be my head coach!
January 17th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
pouncey wont be available when we pick but if he is im all for taking him. im likin casey mathews as our wlb. them mathews boyz can play. keep building that front 7 on d and get us some physical players on offense.id look at marecic as our fb and 1 of these dynamic pass catching te’s with speed. we could use a hernandez type to go with miller. i do like the idea of reece being an h-back type. wouldnt be surprised to see tj housh play here next year. dont care if he dropped that pass he can still play.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
If that really is Saunders, Al Davis will introduce them as Hue and Huge.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
armond Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
62.r8eray Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
63 is old….but not that old!
He still looks good!!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gQbLhYQDz7U/TPCD_42dXlI/AAAAAAAAD6g/c7a8I25_M38/s1600/old%2Bman%2Bmuscle.jpg
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Thats NOT Al Saunders…..unless he has been seriously hitting the Roids the last two years! hahaha
January 17th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
LMAO!!!
That ain’t Saunders.
This is him a few years ago…don’t he turned the corner to ultra-jacked dude.
http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/425616/saunders.jpg
January 17th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
al saunders looks like fuggin magneto in that picture. we got a damn x-man as a oc. we gon be the sh!t!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Damn,
Haven’t checked in during the last few days. What’s this B.S. about Cable being fined? And why the He!! is it coming out now? Like who cares?
Just glad A.D. didn’t stretch the “coaching search” into February…
God knows what “palace drama” takes place at RAIDERS HQ.
Time to win some @#$% games and win the Superbowl…
Silver & Black Forever…
January 17th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
can you gay guys quit posting old muscular guy pics.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
this sh!t is funny in here man. vegas its more fun talkin this bullsh!t than rehashin the same stuff. stop messin with high man. we got magneto runnin the show!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Saunders has been one the top teir OC’s in the league for over 30 years he is to offense what Labeau is to defense. He is a direct decendant of Sid Gilman. If we get him he is one OC Hue is certain to listen to and lena on. His offense under Coryell was the best footballl had to offer Norv Turner learned from Saunders and made Dallas a power house. SD’s offense is almost precisely what Saunders brings to the table. If you like what you saw from those offenses that’s what you’ll see from the Raiders next year.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
next we will get cyborg to run the defense and hopefully hue jack will a black bald headed professor x.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
FINALLY!
Chuck Pagano would be a good hire as DC, but I hope Hue calls most of the plays on offense with input from old man Saunders instead.
I would rather see Pees be the DC though….but Pagano has worked for the Raiders before and anyone from the Ravens defensive staff should be able to do a good job.
I don’t trust old man Saunders calling most of the offensive plays. He is not creative enough.
I’m assuming Hue Jacksons’ offense playbook and terminology will remain also….which is a good thing.
They need to get a better WR coach in there as well.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Al Saunders is the guy standing next to JC in the link from post #174
January 17th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Saunders has been one the top teir OC’s in the league for over 30 years he is to offense what Labeau is to defense. He is a direct decendant of Sid Gilman. If we get him he is one OC Hue is certain to listen to and lena on. His offense under Coryell was the best footballl had to offer Norv Turner learned from Saunders and made Dallas a power house. SD’s offense is almost precisely what Saunders brings to the table. If you like what you saw from those offenses that’s what you’ll see from the Raiders next year.
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Personally I think Al Saunders is past his prime. His last stint as OC in Washington I believe was not a very memorable one.
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January 17th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Gotta give Cable credit for killing the monster and the general change in attitude around the team. He got the team from pitiful to average/mediocre. It was important to do that to set the stage for future greatness.
Thank you for that.
The next step, going from average to elite is probably harder. Just ask the Texans.
Hope this guy can do it without any regression to the bad old days.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
43.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
JFB – How do you know NO team fined their HC? HOW?
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Uhhhh….because I spent about 20 minutes looking it up before I typed it??
This guy!!!!
You see, that’s what I do. Before I type something, I cross check for a few minutes. That way, most all my “opinions” are at least somewhat factually relevant.
You should give it a whirl sometime.
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Too effin funny…..btw Vegas, I do the same thing too…most of the time.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Saunders has been one the top teir OC’s in the league for over 30 years he is to offense what Labeau is to defense. He is a direct decendant of Sid Gilman. If we get him he is one OC Hue is certain to listen to and lena on. His offense under Coryell was the best footballl had to offer Norv Turner learned from Saunders and made Dallas a power house. SD’s offense is almost precisely what Saunders brings to the table. If you like what you saw from those offenses that’s what you’ll see from the Raiders next year.
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Personally I think Al Saunders is past his prime. His last stint as OC in Washington I believe was not a very memorable one.
I would rather see Hue be the main play caller since he knows his own playbook and Saunders offer heavy input and share some play calling duties with Hue.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Al Saunders is a GREAT hire. Here’s to hoping he gets to call plays and leave the motivational stuff to Hue.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Saunders has been one the top teir OC’s in the league for over 30 years he is to offense what Labeau is to defense. He is a direct decendant of Sid Gilman. If we get him he is one OC Hue is certain to listen to and lena on. His offense under Coryell was the best footballl had to offer Norv Turner learned from Saunders and made Dallas a power house. SD’s offense is almost precisely what Saunders brings to the table. If you like what you saw from those offenses that’s what you’ll see from the Raiders next year.
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Personally I think Al Saunders is past his prime. His last stint as OC in Washington I believe was not a very memorable one.
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Washington will do that to coaches. Look how much better Greg Williams looked with the Saints.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
“He has a strong personality that will carry right over to the whole team,” Miller said. “Guys are familiar with him. They know what they’re getting with him. He’s not a new face coming in as a head coach. Having someone who has been here will make the transition that much easier.”
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Bet there are many more guys who feel like this in that locker room. Lechler is a moron.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Al Saunders is a GREAT hire. Here’s to hoping he gets to call plays and leave the motivational stuff to Hue.
…………..anybody have any pics of him?
January 17th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Al Saunders is a power running game OC who will stretch the field and amke this offense consistently powerful and explosive. He’s not nearly as flambouyant as Hue is but he is highly effective. We will be similar to the Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Gotta say I feel bad for me ex main man. If janodrunsky makes a fg and campbell didn’t stink it up against my cross bay enemies, we’e be playing some ball right now. My ex main man cable boys gradownski didn’t help his matters, but lest I digress, having to fire my main ex would made me look stoopid head we win the big one. Cable is my ex and I’m glad he didn’t win the suppa boll because I would a lood stoopid to fire him. I miss my ex, but I got me a new man now.
John, get in here and change my nasty smellin socks.
I remember back in the depression I was sellin tomatoes on a strret corner in what is now brooklyn. Back then it was brooklyn, but it had the dodgers. them bums move to califona I get home and my cousin bar mitzfas tonite and I want to meet this girl that bought a tomatoe from me. Well my dog was sick and momma (bless her heart) told me to stay home with the sick dog cause she knew I loved the dog. I named him raidah.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
# 504 Raider Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
“He has a strong personality that will carry right over to the whole team,” Miller said. “Guys are familiar with him. They know what they’re getting with him. He’s not a new face coming in as a head coach. Having someone who has been here will make the transition that much easier.”
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Bet there are many more guys who feel like this in that locker room. Lechler is a moron.
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Lechler didn’t have anything bad to say about Hue.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
Lechler is a confirmed leader of the locker room. I’m sure he knows a bit more than the semi-pro bloggers on here. What is Miller gonna say? No I dont respect Hue?
January 17th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
# Tricky70390 Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Hue, Al Saunders, and Chuck Pagano.
We are now the Oakland Ravens.
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Good hires if it happens.
Next up…hire a legit WR coach or just hire Tollner as the new WR coach.
Then prepare to try and keep and resign most of the potential in house free agents!
January 17th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
It was the fear of the unknown with lechler I forgive him this one mistake next time shut the hell up. You’re the highest paid kicker in the game. Cable didn’t do that for you, did he???
January 17th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Lechler feels like the world came to an end because Al Davis cancelled his Basic Cable.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
make no bones about it; this wasn’t a 11-5 that underachieved and finished 8-8, it was a 5-11 team that finished 8-8. this team played for its coach and won 8 games. cable should still be the HC with jackson as the OC.
the defense is the REAL problem, ergo, the owner is the problem.
hue jackson will win 8-10 games as raiders coach and be an awesome OC somewhere else in 2 years. the defense will to play 90% man and be REALLY bad.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Quit bangin on my ex man. Thats over. I got a new man now, he’s my main man. Heartbreak Hotel is what we call Raidah HQ now, cause I always breaking the hearts of my ex men.
I’m Al Davis and I approve this message.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
And never never count Al Davis out… the media has to come up with stories that are entertaining and they manifest most of the “crazy Al Davis” stories… Most are pseudo journalists anyway with the exception of a few good ones… Even Jerry talkn about us being unstable…. Funny choice of words if u ask me….Contrary to many around the league…. When Al walks through the door he is respected like Micheal Corelione…. Like i tell most non raider fans, Al has forgotten more football then most Owners already know….Don’t forget he hired Hue and dictated the best draft class of the 2010 season…. Bottom line u dis Al, you are dissing the Raiders…. Everything silver and black is manifested through the ole man…. So never look a gift horse in the face…..
January 17th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Al Saunders is a power running game OC who will stretch the field and amke this offense consistently powerful and explosive. He’s not nearly as flambouyant as Hue is but he is highly effective. We will be similar to the Cowboys under Jimmy Johnson.
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Similar to the 90’s Cowboys??
I hope not….that predictable stuff doesn’t work in this day and age in the NFL anymore.
Running power right off tackle and power left off tackle aint going to cut it in this day age in the NFL.
What Hue did this past year by mixing it up on offense was just what the doctor ordered.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Al Saunders is a power running game OC
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Maybe, but I thought he was originally a WR coach.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
so does this mean we can talk offseason moves instead of this hc bs? cant wait 2 watch the presser 2morrow. what bullsh!t will al davis say about cable? cant wait for a tell all book by somebody. i bet its so much stuff that goes on over there even tmz would be interested in this crap.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
east west shrine game this weekend, any thoughts?
January 17th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
A combination of Nnamdi Asomugha and Dominique Foxworth would be one of the better tandems in football. Not only that, but it opens up much more opportunities for the Ravens to blitz and put more pressure on the quarterback.
The main theme of this offseason is to begin building around Joe Flacco for the future.
However, not only would the acquisition of Nnamdi Asomugha benefit the purple and black for 2010, but in the long run of this franchise as well.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
AD: Herrera. Herrera. Where the hell are you.
H: Sorry, Mr. Davis. I was.
AD: Sorry, my ass. A couple of more things.
H: Yes, Mr. Daivs.
AD: Call that Jackson guy.
H: You mean, your new head coach Jackson.
AD: Did I hire a new head coach names Jackson.
H: Yes you did, Mr. Davis.
AD: That’s right, I did. Didn’t I?
H: Yes, Mr. Davis.
AD: Tell Jackson to forget all this Saunders, Pagano talk. Tell him the new DC will be George Allen and the new OC will be Tom Flores.
H: Mr. Davis. There’s a problem with those two.
AD: Don’t talk back to me, Herrera. I’ll fine you, too. By the way. Give Cable a call and ask him if he can drive me to the press conference.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
That predictable stuff will win a SB this year you MORON. What do you think the Bears and Steelers run…….god we have some dumbells in here.
The Ravens run that same system we ran it last year……..OMG if you don’t know something ask and until you know shut the hell up.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
203.armond Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
so does this mean we can talk offseason moves instead of this hc bs? cant wait 2 watch the presser 2morrow. what bullsh!t will al davis say about cable? cant wait for a tell all book by somebody. i bet its so much stuff that goes on over there even tmz would be interested in this crap.
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Graceful and Gracious, I assure you, it will be not.
Old fashioned mud-slingin
Smoke comin from my ears, fire breathing testimony
Take none alive, the world will see me in all my Raidah glory.
January 17th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
I like the way the coaching staff seems to shaping up. Now the next order of business is that long list of potential free agents. That concerns me.
No way they are going ot be able to keep all of them. They are probably going to lose some good football players.
I think they keep Seymour, Now way can you trade a 1st rd pick to rent a player for two years. He’ll be back, franchised again if nesc.
I said the other day I think Nnamdi will surprise Adam Schefter and a lot of people and re-sign with the Raiders.
However, I get the feeling Huff is gone. Probably to the Cowboys. That would be a shame. FS for the Raiders is a tough, demanding gig, and Michael Huff has been playing some damn good football.
Micael Bush might be gone looking for more carries and a possible starting job elsewhere.
I hope I’m wrong in both cases.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
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I hope you’re wrong too Buckeye. I hope they both stay.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Not a bit worried about keeping our guys or getting better players. This is all about wanna and I gaurantee you most don’t wanna go.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Seymour, Nnamdi, Miller, and Wimbley all should be re-signed.
Gallery and Satele probably won’t cost a whole lot to re-sign. If they ask for too much money, neither guy would be a huge loss. But Satele would at the very least be good depth for the C position, and Gallery has been instrumental to Veldheer’s progress at LT.
Loper, Eugene, Cartwright and John Henderson could all get one-year deals.
I’d like to see Huff and Bush back, but I’m not going to hold my breath on that. They’ll want big money and the Raiders’ will have other priorities.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
who is Hue bringing in at OC? figured jackson would just call the plays himself. guess not. Raiders should switch to a 3-4 scheme. they have the players for it. mcclain, seymour,wimbley,houston. all 3-4 Defensive players. woulld be a good idea. seymour could play NT. with henderson to spell him.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
we’ve hit the bottom of our blog here, time to go night-nighty and dont let the bed bug bity.
Exhibit A
so does this mean we can talk offseason moves instead of this hc bs? (on the one hand)
Exhibit B
cant wait 2 watch the presser 2morrow. what bullsh!t will al davis say about cable? (on the other)
Only can I run the double standard, cause I’m Al.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Outside of the in-house FAs, RT Ryan Harris, CB Jonathan Joseph, and FS Jarrad Page should all be potential targets.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
bush should leave if he wants to get paid. hes gone. raiders need to find a brusing RB in the draft or FA.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
198.MTraidernation Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
make no bones about it; this wasn’t a 11-5 that underachieved and finished 8-8, it was a 5-11 team that finished 8-8. this team played for its coach and won 8 games. cable should still be the HC with jackson as the OC.
the defense is the REAL problem, ergo, the owner is the problem.
hue jackson will win 8-10 games as raiders coach and be an awesome OC somewhere else in 2 years. the defense will to play 90% man and be REALLY bad.
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when you are 5-4 tied for first place at the bye and are 3-0 in the division and you finish 3rd 8-8,6-0 in the division some under-achiving is going on or low goals set and achived by the head coach.cable did not when a game outside the division after the bye week.that `s sad!!!!!!!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
YA,
I know the Raiders have like an unbelievable 25 or so potential free agents. I heard the announcers talking about Hasselbeck the other night.
Plus, some posters have mentioned Haloti Ngata is a FA. You know of any others? Is their a league wide list of FA’s on NFL.com or anything like that?
Anybody have a link?
January 17th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
@216
I’m sure you saw the last Raider game of the season. Bush is a bruiser.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
AD: Herrera. Herrera. Where the hell are you.
H: Sorry, Mr. Davis. I was.
AD- Herrera what by jesus are we doing here H – We are here to have a press conference AD – Press conference where are my lawyers H- Its to name a new head coach sir AD New head coach who is he ? H- Hue Johnson sir AD -Well where the heck is he? H- you sent him too mickey d”s for cheeseburgers sir AD-Well tell him dont forget the coleslaw
January 17th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
So in the matter of Jackson v. Cable, it looks like Jackson is the winner.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
It’s hard to find a good, consolidated list of free agents unfortunately.
If Baltimore is stupid enough to not sign Ngata to a massive long-term deal and the Raiders got him somehow (really doubt this happens), I wouldn’t even care if Seymour left. Ngata is probably the best lineman in football right now.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Buckeye,
As long as we resign Nnamdi and Seymour, I will be happy. I like to resign Miller & Bush too.
Go Bucks!
January 17th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
I guess it could be said that Hue is the reason for the revitalized offense. I like Cable, but when you go 2-8 outside the division and you play the NFC West, you’re kinda asking to be fired.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Nah,
I don’t see Baltimore allowing Ngata to go anywhere. He’ll be tagged, if such a thing exists in the new CBA.
I like our D-line rotation the way it is and hope they are able to keep it intact. I really liked bringing Wauffle back from NYG last year. I hope he is retained as well.
He did a good job, along with Seymour’s veteran presence of getting those young D-lineman to play some tough football most of the time. Really brought out the best in TK as well.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
GOI
January 17th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Buckeye,
Try Walterfootball.com.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
IMO Bush is one of the top backs in the league no one knows I personally like him better than DMC. I like big dominant backs with speed and his skill set is ridiculous, has great hands. Cable didn’t think it necessary to play him though. Another one of his head scratching moves.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Thanks O.
I’ll give it a look. I’d like to be able to keep most of the FA inhouse. Don’t know how realistic it is, though.
Guess we need to wait on a new CBA first.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
Hey, priesttj, defender of all things Al Davis, your repetitive and facile comment that Davis knows more than anybody here (i.e., on this blog) is, of course, entirely beside the point. Al’s recent track record of colossal failure is the direct result of him not knowing as much as the other GMs in the league, namely those who operate real professional franchises in New England, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Atlanta…etc. So this does little to support your argument that Davis still is “operating at the top of his game.” What you argue with, in the final analysis, is little more than wishful thinking unsupported by facts. In other words, friend, you’re biased.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
This is a huge offseason for our team cuz it will show if Al is confident in the free agents or wants to blow up the team and go in a new direction. I think Nnamdi is gone. Bush, Routt and Z. Miller might stay if paid. I have no idea about Seymour. He’s a family man and that could affect where he signs.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
I am biased and admittedly so, I’ve seen the man work up close and personal so there is sound reason for it. No one is right all the time and I recognize his faults but I also recognize his successes. IMO he has rebiult this team from an old beaten down team to a young vibrant dynamic unit. Capable of greatness. He hired a young punk who conned him and set him back roughly 5 years but it is undone finally.
Hue has the potential to do what Gruden did and some with this group and I for one am looking forward to it. So you can cry poor if you wnat o. I don’t have time for that.
So to each his own……..thanks for listening.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Priest,
How do you propose we use Bush more without sacrificing DMac?
What type of offense do you hope to see?
January 17th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
I would say Nnamdi and Seymour are not as important as Miller and Bush. The main aspect of this team is running and Z. Miller is our best receiver by far. Letting those two go would be a grave miscalculation.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
JHill,
Don’t mean to interject, but weren’t there games last year that Cable said we should have ran the ball more. If we follow this mentality into next year, there will be more touches for both backs.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Same old story. Nothing has changed. Two or three years from now AD will fire Hue Jackson and hire another. The nation will be excited again and two to three years later AD will fire the new coach. The nation will be excited again and two to three years later AD will …
January 17th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Lets hope he does stabilize things
“Hue Dah Man”
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2011_off_season
January 17th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Reign,
I just don’t see a scenario that gets Bush enough carries to stay in Silver and Black. He is NOT the player or threat that DMac is so 5-8 carries is about the best he can expect, imo.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
233. One with DMC in motion out wide or in the slot.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
The same one I had hoped to see this year. I know DMC is a wonderful player but this game at this level is extremely violent. He can dominate for a feww game sand then he starts to run with less violence. Bush is just the opposite defenders literally dodge him once he gets going. I said before the Steeler game if we ran Bush 25 times regardless of score we had a much better chance to win. The success would’ve come in the second half.
If we want to win this thing next year Bush has to carry the load DMC will benefit from that. It will keep him fresh and healthy I would give to DMC 15 times a game running 8-10 times via the pass. I would make him an integral part of the passing game where he is often in openfield where he does the most damage. Everyone else gets their touches after that.
If they follow that formula they’ll win 10-12 games because the skill level of those two are much better than any duo in the league IMO.
Bush can also catch out of the backfield, they both are legitimate phenoms if you split DMC out with Bush in the backfield very few teams can deal with that. Ford Chaz Murphy DHB and ZMiller can play off them I gaurantee you they’ll put up 30 a game.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
EYoung Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Same old story. Nothing has changed. Two or three years from now AD will fire Hue Jackson and hire another. The nation will be excited again and two to three years later AD will fire the new coach. The nation will be excited again and two to three years later AD will …
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this is complete insanity AND completely true. with big al, there’s no winning “your way” because that will outshine the boss(see jon gruden). problem is, al’s way hasn’t worked since ‘83 when the game and rules were much different. let’s recap: it’s either al’s way(which doesn’t work) or your way and you get fired. what a sweet gig.
ps…al saunders = tom walsh
the 2010-2011 raiders are like a drug addict who has been clean for months and jsut went out on a 4 day bender. we just took a couple steps back.
January 17th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Make that 25-30 a game if the defense can hold them to average 17 per game we’ll win 10 games hands down. No onw team can match the speed and talent on this team if it’s utilized right.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
# EYoung Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Same old story. Nothing has changed. Two or three years from now AD will fire Hue Jackson and hire another. The nation will be excited again and two to three years later AD will fire the new coach. The nation will be excited again and two to three years later AD will …
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It’s been two years since he emerged from the crypt.
Al at last sight was starting to resemble the undead. We haven’t seen him in a while.
I’m wondering how close he’s looking to one of the extras from “Thriller”, now.
HEE-HEE……SHUM-ON!!!
January 17th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
JHill,
With respect to Bush v. DMC, they are more like complimentary players. Smash and Dash. They could both easily get 20 carries each. Especially when you consider our wr corp. In fact they SHOULD get at least 20 carries each because they are the driving force of this offense. You look at other teams around the league with comparable backs, they always run it in the high 30’s.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Jhill that is darnnear laughable you have no idea what Bush is capable of. He just does it differently he uses power, DMC uses speed.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
245. DMC uses speed and power. He’s not a small Rb and I agree, when he’s dinged, not the same cat, but when he’s not, he’s finishing with violence. Ask alot of Safeties who tried to stop him this year.
Bush on the other hand (no pun intended) was out with a broken thumb and we all know about his busted leg.
No real way to know if is even CAPABLE of taking the amjority of snaps.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
I hope and think HJ is going to do a fine job as HC of the Raids.
Enjoyed reading the reports of him taking over the practices during pre-season. If Corkran and Jerry are to be believed, Hue’s banter motivated the players and kept things lively.
Although some here ridiculed Hue for being a butt kisser during his ‘Coach Davis’ presser/interview, I thought he came off as being well spoken, respectful and personable. I like the guy.
Also noticed that Hue seemed to interract well with the players when he was shown discussing things with them on the sidelines during games. The man seems to have the ability to get your attention. He’s animated and energetic and appears to be a good, confident teacher.
One critique though. There was more than one occasion where plays seemed late coming in from the sideline and the Raids blew quite a few time outs this year due to this tardiness, lack of comminication or indecisiveness. This is definitely an area for improvement.
Alot of the fans here have rebuked Hue for using the reverse way too frequently in 2010. I’m going to go against the grain here, and say I think for the most part those reverses were very succesful and it was refreshing to see the Raids have somewhat of a ’signature’ or ‘go to’ play in the arsenal for a change. The offense not only scored more points than we’ve seen since forever, it also seemed on the cusp of actually developing an identity.
Not a bad achievement considering Hue was saddled with JaJason at QB, an OL that is urine-poor at pass blocking and a less than stellar performance from the WRs.
Moving forward, Hue and Al must finalize the staff for 2011, and then decide what needs to be done personnel wise in the draft and free agency.
Can the moves made recently be construed as a lack of stability (as Jerry seems to think) or even dysfunction ? Maybe. But stability isn’t a good thing when you haven’t had resounding success. 8-8 is mediocrity. Yes, a step up from the sewer we descended into – but nothing to rest your laurels on. In my mind, things are falling into place nicely and the prospects for this franchise are greater than they have been in quite some time.
Of course, there’s still the elephant in the room which must be addressed – and that’s somehow, someway, finding and bringing a franchise QB to Oaktown.
JaJason sucks.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Besides Marshawn Lynch’s run, the final TD DMC had on Jacksonville was the best run of the year. I like Bush, we don’t use him as much as we should, but he ain’t no Dmac. Not tryna argue, just my opinion.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Priest,
Yes,
Bush is an excellent receiver out of the backfield. Maybe re-signing him should be even more of a priority than I thought.
Hell, I almost forgot DMac missed the finale vs KC with another occurance of turf toe.
Turf toe nearly derailed the beginning of McFadden’s Raider career. It so limited his effectiveness that about half of Raider Nation seemingly turned on the kid. He was a bust who was soft and tripped and fell over blades of grass and white lines on the field. He had skinny legs and would never be able to make it as a running back in the NFL. He was weak, and the only way the Raiders can possibly salvage the 4th overall bust was to move him to WR.
Well, this year we saw what a healthy McFadden could do. The guy was explosive. Punished would be tacklers with a devestating stiff arm. Led the league with explosive runs of 20+ yards.
However, that he suffered a recurrence of turf toe has to be worrisome. Hopefully it doesn’t become a chronic thing.
Maybe the Raiders do need to do everything possible to keep Michael Bush in Silver and Black. If not just for precautinary measures. Although the dude is a talent in his own right.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
I know he can maybe YOU don’t that big dude is dominant and is as capable of going for 1500 yards plus as anyone in this league. he just hasbn’t been given the chance by some stupid coaches. I trust him to carry the loas more than I do DMC he gets hurt too much. If not for that busted thumb on his strong hand he would’ve gone for 1,500+ and DMC 1,000. Both can go 70 yards Bush just runs over people. DMC runs by them.
Two truly great backs.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
251
January 17th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
hue johnson is just what al needed an “uncle tom”
January 17th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
That predictable stuff will win a SB this year you MORON. What do you think the Bears and Steelers run…….god we have some dumbells in here.
The Ravens run that same system we ran it last year……..OMG if you don’t know something ask and until you know shut the hell up.
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hahaha….once again your one dimensional way of thinking gets in the way of you making any sense at all foolio.
The Steelers and the Ravens do NOT run the same offense the Cowboys ran in the 90’s.
Stop lying to yourself ya old idiot.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
And yes we do need both, I would hate to see Bush in a chargers uniform. The thought makes me sick.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
250.priesttj Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
I know he can maybe YOU don’t that big dude is dominant and is as capable of going for 1500 yards plus as anyone in this league. he just hasbn’t been given the chance by some stupid coaches. I trust him to carry the loas more than I do DMC he gets hurt too much. If not for that busted thumb on his strong hand he would’ve gone for 1,500+ and DMC 1,000. Both can go 70 yards Bush just runs over people. DMC runs by them.
Two truly great backs.
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I love Bush also Priest, almost as much as McFaddy.
I think with he and McFaddy we would be #1 in rushing next year.
With that said, Miller is the bigger need to the team. If it came down to the two, I say Miller.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
You’re lying to yourself son the Cowboys just simplified the offense they didn’t need the majority of the playbook. The fact that you don’t know football or undestand concepts is not my fault. All these coaches come from the same family tree.
Hue just chooses to use a larger portion of the playbook kid it’s the same offense. gameplans and playcalling may make it seem different bu it is the same offense…………..period
January 17th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Priest,
Bush is not going to get 20 carries with a healthy DMac. That is just not realistic.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
priest u need to give that dmc bush stuff a rest. when did dmc prove to run with less violence? u mean the the games where the oline didnt block for either back? u are a bush fan and feels he should carry the ball more than dmc tho he proved YOU wrong. bush should get more rushes and catches as should dmc. dmc is your featured back and really should be the main guy in the offense. he should touch the ball over 300 times like priest holmes use to. bush had 158 carriers in about 14 games which isnt enuff. if we convert more 1rst downs and to’s on defense we will get them more touches. dmc dominated this year and u still wanna relegate him to some complimentary back. dude is a stud that shouldnt be held back.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Re post 240. I like the combo of McFadden and Bush. McFadden’s best games were when he carried less than 20 times but always broke off a couple of long runs. He needs to be involved in the passing game much more especially on the perimeter with Bush at running back. Bush and McFadden need to be in the game at the same time much more often. When will DHB be relegated to his rightful spot: 4th or 5th receiver, at best.
Re post 230. The Raiders need to become something resembling a multi-million dollar organization not the current mom and pop grocery store operation. Al wants to win but he wants to do it all by his lonesome. Does he even own a computer with internet access? I know he owns an overhead projector.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Raiders just announced that they will be teaming with HBO for next season’s Hardknocks, in the event that there is a season.
I can’t wait to see Hue and Al Saunders in action!
We’ll finally see what the real story is with Al Davis. How much he is really involved!
January 17th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
257.J Hill Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Priest,
Bush is not going to get 20 carries with a healthy DMac. That is just not realistic.
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Right, so spend the money on Miller, Seymour, Huff, Wimbly, and Gallery.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Zack seems to be on board:
”I’m excited about Hue getting the head coaching job,” Raiders tight end Zach Miller said in a phone interview with the Associated Press. ”I really like the direction our offense is going and how much we improved. This was the best offensive year we’ve had since I’ve been a Raider. I’m excited to have the continuity.”
January 17th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Don’t lie Dakota I would be way too juiced if that was true. Post the link!
January 17th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Other teams have been trying to pry Mike Bush away from this team since he got here because they know what he can do. I love DMC as a player but I prefer Bush that dude is a one man gang.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Raiderman99,
Good post. Totally agree about Campbell. He has a moment here and there but won’t push the ball downfield consistently enough to make this a legit passing attack.
I feel like Vince Young is the best option for what’s available to us. Didn’t follow McNabb at all this year, but consensus is he’s done.
One more thing is many have been in here ripping Cable for starting Grads over Campbell. Let’s get it straight though, Grads is > Campbell.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
dmc also runs over people. that stiff arm was considered the best in college and we saw why. keep both backs and make them top priority on offense. id like to see both guys get 250 carries a piece. then add on the receiving abilities of both and u would have the best rb duo. i think bush would be a
1400 yard rusher but so can dmc be 1.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
# Dakota Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Raiders just announced that they will be teaming with HBO for next season’s Hardknocks, in the event that there is a season.
I can’t wait to see Hue and Al Saunders in action!
We’ll finally see what the real story is with Al Davis. How much he is really involved!
^^^^^^^^
Link please?
January 17th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
There are no examples of team giving one running back 20-25 carries with another one getting 15 or so.
DMac is not Reggie Bush, lol.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
264.priesttj Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Other teams have been trying to pry Mike Bush away from this team since he got here because they know what he can do. I love DMC as a player but I prefer Bush that dude is a one man gang.
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You preferred Fargas over McFadden too….you are simply a hater.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
Dakota you’re full of it. LOL. That would be interesting though wouldn’t it.
You know they would never allow that kind of access to their facility. To the Raiders inner workings. That would blow their CIA-like wall of secrecy.
Hell, I was surprised they let the cameras in for that feel good story about that lil kids make-a-wish dream to tackle McFadden.
Hard Knocks. LOL. Not while Al’s alive.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
262.Dakota Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Zack seems to be on board:
”I’m excited about Hue getting the head coaching job,” Raiders tight end Zach Miller said in a phone interview with the Associated Press. ”I really like the direction our offense is going and how much we improved. This was the best offensive year we’ve had since I’ve been a Raider. I’m excited to have the continuity.”
——————————————————-damn i guess shane didnt talk to zach miller huh? hahaha
January 17th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Bush is big, but he runs light. McFadden is actually the more punishing runner….but some people will never accept him….that is okay, cuz I bet they cheer him when he is making all those plays.
Every team needs two good RBs so I sure hope we keep Bush. but giving him carries over McFadden would be idiotic.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
New post. Beat ya to it, Dakota.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
regarding prriest–and dknight
The whole concept thing is so true, i’m actually in an argument with a buddy of mine arguing the same thing. It all originated back then with Gilman then Air Corriel, its the vertical game with power running, football at its simplest, coordinators like HUGH,NORV,AL,CAM, and alot more share it basically, its one giant mish mash…it may seem different to some because some use it differently..lol..
January 17th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
It’s true 510
January 17th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
I really like Mike Bush.I was begging to draft him that year. But I fear it’s not going to be practical to tie up so much cash in a position with a large supply of capable RBs around. Somebody will offer Bush starting money.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Saunders has been one the top teir OC’s in the league for over 30 years he is to offense what Labeau is to defense. He is a direct decendant of Sid Gilman. If we get him he is one OC Hue is certain to listen to and lena on. His offense under Coryell was the best footballl had to offer Norv Turner learned from Saunders and made Dallas a power house. SD’s offense is almost precisely what Saunders brings to the table. If you like what you saw from those offenses that’s what you’ll see from the Raiders next year
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You goofy old bat.
“top tier oc in the league for 30 years”? You goofball. He’s only been an OC since 2001. Do the math, pops.
“Norv Turner learned from Saunders and made Dallas a power house”???
You GOOFBALL. No he didn’t. Turner and Saunders were both assts at USC, and both came into the league as WR coaches. Saunders had nothing to do with Turner being OC at Dallas. Al became OC tens years AFTER Norv became one.
You confuse yourself, don’t you?
January 17th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
268.J Hill Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
There are no examples of team giving one running back 20-25 carries with another one getting 15 or so.
DMac is not Reggie Bush, lol.
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he is like reggie bush remember? all of the semi pros said he was a 3rd down back including priest. vegas even said cantgetwright would have more rushing yards than him. we also shouldve traded him for a white t-shirt blue jeans and nikes. he also was ronnie harmon. no wait he was a slot wr! no he was suppose to be cut!
January 17th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
PriestTJ would like to limit this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYmj2NGjBnw
Just like his boy…the next Madden as TJ used to call him….Tom Cable limited him.
When are you and Cable going to take Fargas’ balz out of your mouths?
January 17th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
And hey guys its been a while, had to get a new password but yeah, basically the stuff that priest sais is all rite, people just dont want to believe it cuz he shares alot of the same beliefs of AD, which are rite, this team right now is a VERY VERY talented, bruising, fast, young, force to be reckoned with, HJ,and Saunders are gona have a field day with the talent on this team in 2011.
January 17th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
My thing is if we let Bush go, who is our secondary rb? We know DMC cannot carry the load for the entire year. So who could/would we get to replace him?
January 17th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
the one thing i will disagree with partially is the bush/dmac thing….dmac is a run up the middle back!! and will break it loose for a big one, the only thing that kills me is i think both of them are guys who need 20 carries a game to get that 140yd game!! but i think what PRIEST and AD want to see is more stuff like we saw with kaufman/harvey williams in the 90’s, thats why DAVIS wanted BUSH to play a lil fullback when he got here, he loves having both on the field, like with BO and ALLEN b4 ALLEN got cocky
January 17th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
They both can really do a lot,i think thats why HUGH came here and is attracting other offensive minds to come here, we have 2 great backs, a good tight end, and fast receivers, an offensive coordinators wet dream
January 17th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
and i love the chuck pagano sign!! this is a very very exciting time to be a raider fan, great great staff MR.DAVIS
January 17th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
new post
January 17th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
well goodnight raider nation, i will fall asleep to thoughts of vertical passing, long td runs, front 4 pressure, and lock down man to man coverage (which i think pagano will help our youngsters out with)
January 17th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Jmackraider12 Says:
January 17th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
the one thing i will disagree with partially is the bush/dmac thing….dmac is a run up the middle back!! and will break it loose for a big one, the only thing that kills me is i think both of them are guys who need 20 carries a game to get that 140yd game!! but i think what PRIEST and AD want to see is more stuff like we saw with kaufman/harvey williams in the 90’s, thats why DAVIS wanted BUSH to play a lil fullback when he got here, he loves having both on the field, like with BO and ALLEN b4 ALLEN got cocky.
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Totally agree. This team needs at least 40 carries a game. At least that will keep the defense off the field and keep Jajason from screwing us.
January 17th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
DMAC, despite missing 3 games, was a Top 5 RB in the NFL = All Pro E-L-I-T-E !!! These numbers don’t lie:
* Rushing yards per game: 89.0 (4th-best in NFL)
* Total scrimmage yards: 1,664 (5th-best in NFL)
* Scrimmage yards per game: 128.0 (2nd-best in NFL)
* Yards per carry: 5.2 (3rd-best in NFL, minimum 130 carries and minimum 10.0 carries per game)
* Total TDs: 10 (9th-best in NFL)
* 100-yard rushing games: 6 (5th-best in NFL)
* 20-plus-yard carries: 14 (1st in NFL)
* 40-plus-yard carries: 4 (2nd-best in NFL)
* Receiving yards by a RB: 507 (6th-best in NFL)
* Receiving yards per game by a RB: 39.0 (2nd-best in NFL)
* How consistent was McFadden when he was healthy? Well, out of 13 games played, he rushed for less than 89 yards only 4 times. By comparison, Peyton Hillis of the Browns played in 16 games, rushed for 20 more yards on the season than DMAC (1,177 to 1,157), but he had 9 games in which he failed to rush for at least 60 yards. More of a bruising-style runner, definitely more proven than Bush, media darling for the Pro Bowl, not as productive or consistent as DMAC.
* DMAC was the only NFL RB to record 4 TDs in a single game in 2010, earning him AFC Offensive Player of the Week in Week 7. And his 3-TD outburst in Jacksonville made him one of only three players since 1950 to have two rushing TDs of at least 35 yards and one receiving TD of at least 60 yards in a single game.
* DMAC’s 1st-down rushing percentage was a respectable 20.2% (18th in the NFL), but when you factor in the field-position changing explosion runs (he led the league in 20-yard-plus and 30-yard-plus runs, and was second in 40-yard-plus runs) — he was an undeniable force who flip-flopped field position more than any other RB in the NFL.
* Fumbles? 3 (this was 20th in the NFL, tied with a bunch of other RBs; solid for a guy who admittedly put the ball on the ground at a high rate in his first two seasons).
WE’VE GOT BUSH: Prior to the season finale in KC, Michael Bush’s two longest plays from scrimmage — a 50-plus-yard reception against Seattle and a 24-yard run at San Diego — were both fluke, busted plays where he was in the right place at the right time. The big reception against the ‘Hawks was a thrice-defelcted pass that wound up in his hands, and the 24-yard run against the Chargers was after JC pitched the ball to him in the flat after a pass play broke down. Good for him being opportunistic and in the right place at the right time, but his two best plays thru 15 games were busted flukes.
Fast-forward to KC in Week 17, and he had three rushing plays of 20-plus yards. But I was there, and he did not get touched one time on any of those three plays. Hey, he had a heckuva game, but Oakland dominated that d-linre all day and DMAC goes for 200 with those 23 or 25 carries and 3 scores on that day. Bush did have a couple of really nice catches out of the backfield that day, and those stood out more to me than the runs he had.
SUMMARY: Giving Bush the same attempts or even half as much as DMAC is like suggesting Gerhart should get the same or half of AP’s workload, or someting ridiculous along those lines.
Facts are stubborn things, and you can’t just wish them away or draw conclusions that run contrary without being held to serious ridicule.
January 18th, 2011 at 2:03 am
Jackson Fired in Oakland”
(A.P)-
In an unprecedented move, the Oakland Raiders today fired their Head Coach Hue Jackson.
This is the shortest tenure of any Raider head coach, and the second shortest in league history. The Raiders also hold that distinction after Manager of the General Partner Al Davis fired HC Vern “Cramp” Gerstherfer after the 2002 season. Gersthefer, an insurance salesman, not only had no HC experience at any level in organized sports, but reportedly had no personal interest in sports altogether. “Crampy”‘ as he was known to friends, earned the nickname for his distinctive whining whenever called upon to participate in any physical activity beyond going back and forth to the bathroom, was the Raider HC for a mere 5 minutes beifre being releived of his duties.
He was subsequently sued by Al Davis for the entire cost of the “Happy Meal” he had consumed during his tenure as the Raider field chief.
After spending nearly $ 300,000 on legal expenses as part of the lengthy litigation process, Mr. Davis dropped the suit, citing his kind affection for insurance agents. ‘let bygones be bygones I always say’ quipped Mr. Davis at the end of the process. ‘I’m just glad it’s finally over” said “Crampy” who then was able to get on with the business of selling illegal insurance policies.
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Idiotic as hell. Find new material,or at least make the story shorter. Jesus f$%King Christ.
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