Jackson-Davis highlights, Part II
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, January 18th, 2011 at 6:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Second in a series of posts with highlights from the Hue Jackson-Al Davis press conference Tuesday:
– Not comparing their ability as a head coach in any way, but Hue Jackson went out of his way to ingratiate himself with his new boss more than any coach than Joe Bugel.
Bugel actually put his arm around Davis after replacing Mike White and said, “I love this man.’’
Jackson referred to Davis throughout the proceedings as “coach Davis’’ and had this to say in his opening statement:
“Obviously when I came here a year ago a lot of things were said. ‘Why you want to go work for the Raiders?’ One, I’m from California and I love being back home. But two, the opportunity to work for coach Davis. I know a lot of people quote me when I say coach because he is a coach. He was one of the greatest coaches of our time coaching a football team.
“I want you guys to know, I’ve worked for a lot of owners in this league. I’ve been on four different football teams. I started with Dan Snyder, I worked for from there to Mike Brown, from there to Arthur Blank, from there to Steve Bisciotti. And I’m not saying this because I’m sitting here. I’m being very honest with you, not one of those guys, and they’re all excellent at what they do, but I’ve never had the opportunity to sit and talk football, football, the X’s and O’s and what it takes to win in this league consistently on a consistent basis, and there’s nothing like working for coach Davis.
“I know a lot of stuff gets said about this and that, I’m telling you I’m here. I’m a walking testimony of coming here in the first year and having an opportunity to make something great. We’re not where we want to be but I’m so excited about the opportunity that the men that are sitting in the back of the room, Mike Waufle and Kevin Ross, guys that I know this past year that we did everything that we could to get this organization where we want it to be, and none of us are satisfied. We all are ready to roll up our sleeves and go to work. So I’m glad, to be here, glad to be the head coach of this football team. I plan on being here for a long time.’’
OK, it’s probably a good idea to talk up the boss. But referring to Cincinnati owner Mike Brown as “excellent” strains the credibility of the speaker.
– Davis wasn’t overly impressed with the show of support in the locker room for Cable in part because he promoted after a show of player support instead in 1997 instead of Jon Gruden, a mistake he rectified the next year after the Raiders went 4-12.
“Three of the players came to me, led by the minister, Napoleon Kaufman, who runs a church now. They wanted a guy to be the head coach, and I wasn’t sure that I wanted to go in that direction,’’ Davis said. “ I hired the line coach as the head coach because the players wanted him. They were all excited. And he was a great coach. This guy was a great line coach. His name was Joe Bugel, and uh, but those things, sometimes you relent and sometimes you don’t. But this had no chance.’’
Davis felt Cable cultivated the support because “he was through, and he also knew how to go into the locker room and get the support. Which is good. I think it’s great for a coach to get support when you’re leaving.’’
Davis seemed to find the pointed criticisms from punter Shane Lechler more amusing than disturbing.
“My first reaction was three years ago, if you get out your newspaper, Shane said publicly he wasn’t coming back, he didn’t like it here,’’ Davis said. “A month later, he was coming back because I gave him the highest paid contract of a specialist in pro football.’’
– Sounds as if the Raiders had no intention of picking up the option the contract of cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, whose deal voided automatically anyway because he failed to meet performance incentives.
Davis acknowledged Asomugha’s skill as a cornerback and his worth in the community but noted, “that 17 million dollars can bring you two or three players that can help you win.’’
When there were stories that Asomugha wanted to play with the New York Jets and Darrelle Revis, Davis said he him asked him point blank if he wished to be traded.
“He said, `No. I want to stay. I don’t want to go.’ ‘’
– Davis on the trade which dealt a first-round draft pick to the New England Patriots for Richard Seymour: “You may not think it was a good trade. I thought it was a great trade. Still do.’’
– Wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey still has the owner in his corner, although it’s notable Davis didn’t use the word “great’’ when evaluating him.
“He’s going to be good. (He has) explosion. He can catch, he’s getting better, and he’s a good guy. He’s going to be good.’’
More to come in a couple of hours . . .
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January 18th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Jer, What happened to Davis’ head? Looks like a pretty nasty crack.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
# waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Why do people trash Al Davis yet still want to be Raiders a fan? Doesn’t make sense. You want things your way, buy your own team.
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because Al is not Raiders, we are Raiders fans, not Al-fans…
a j3w might love his ford, but that does not mean he likes the antisemitic views Henry Ford had, now does that make sense to you??
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Nope. If he didn’t like the maker, why would he support him by buying his product? The more it doesn’t make sense. It becomes hypocritical
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because he likes the car, thats why… product and maker isnt the same thing… just like the raiders are the team we love, and Al is pathetic in the view of some…
if your dad is an 1diot, but you are a nice guy, shouldnt people still be friends with you? (not that Im saying he or you are any of these things)
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Product and maker may not be the same. But if there is no maker there will be no product. But still why would you buy a product from someone you hate?
If my father were an 1diot(as you mentioned) and I were a nice guy(not that I’m saying he nor I are any of these things), I would not want to be friends with nor trust anyone who would not respect him, even if he’s an 1diot.
You say the raiders are the team you love. The raider team does not always have the same players every year. If they leave do you follow each of them to the next team? If not, why not? Are you a fan of the brand?
A lot of negativity begin with the raider “fans” and then the haters build on it.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Tom Cable backhanded him when he found out he was getting fired…
January 18th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Im excited about next year!
January 18th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
OK, it’s probably a good idea to talk up the boss. But referring to Cincinnati owner Mike Brown as “excellent” strains the credibility of the speaker.
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Gotta give him credit. He is pretty excellent at being a tightwad owner
January 18th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Just goes to show what kind of ass kissers Al surrounds himself with. Nobody had the balls to tell him how horrible his head looked.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
great day to be a raider fan…glad cable is gone….hue da man!
January 18th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
1.KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
Jer, What happened to Davis’ head? Looks like a pretty nasty crack.
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he`s old man,i hate to say it but al looks like my mother-in-law her last few years.so just keep falling down and each fall would take off 5 years.al will be lucky to make it to 85.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Kell,
Did you get to see the presser in it’s entirety?
What did Davis say about Cable? Picked up bits and pieces from posters comments, don’t know what to believe.
Cam Inman said he was shoveling dirt on Cable’s Raider grave.
Brief summary of what was said if you don’t mind, please.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Joe Bugel had no problem running that offense. Jeff George had over 3k yds, 29tds, and only 9 ints. It was Al Davis’ outdated D that was ranked 29th in the league that year that made us 4-12. That lousy man-2-man couldnt stop anyone from running them over. Al Davis loves to rewrite history.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
ham inman is a moron…
January 18th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
He pretty much started a smear campaign agaisnt Cable. Said he was dishonest about the wife-beating issues, said that he involved the Raiders in several lawsuits regarding those isssues, and that he brought friends along on raod trips which is unacceptable. He was also quick to point out that Cable is still a “loser” because he has only been on 3 winning teams in 20 seasons. Pretty bizarre. He also dropped an f-bomb at one point when the PR guy started to dismiss the press early.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
LMN,
I think what you need to tell your debate buddy is the Raiders are like crack cocaine. Hard to get rid of it from your system even when you hate the crack dealer.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
“The Baltimore Ravens elevated former defensive backs coach Chuck Pagano to defensive coordinator on Tuesday. He replaces former defensive coordinator Greg Mattison, who left Baltimore to take over the same post at the University of Michigan.”
From ESPN.com
January 18th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
# waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Why do people trash Al Davis yet still want to be Raiders a fan? Doesn’t make sense. You want things your way, buy your own team.
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because Al is not Raiders, we are Raiders fans, not Al-fans…
a j3w might love his ford, but that does not mean he likes the antisemitic views Henry Ford had, now does that make sense to you??
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Nope. If he didn’t like the maker, why would he support him by buying his product? The more it doesn’t make sense. It becomes hypocritical
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because he likes the car, thats why… product and maker isnt the same thing… just like the raiders are the team we love, and Al is pathetic in the view of some…
if your dad is an 1diot, but you are a nice guy, shouldnt people still be friends with you? (not that Im saying he or you are any of these things)
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Product and maker may not be the same. But if there is no maker there will be no product. But still why would you buy a product from someone you hate?
If my father were an 1diot(as you mentioned) and I were a nice guy(not that I’m saying he nor I are any of these things), I would not want to be friends with nor trust anyone who would not respect him, even if he’s an 1diot.
You say the raiders are the team you love. The raider team does not always have the same players every year. If they leave do you follow each of them to the next team? If not, why not? Are you a fan of the brand?
A lot of negativity begin with the raider “fans” and then the haters build on it.
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Lol product or maker? The maker is Al the product hasnt had a good season in years, whats there to like about either.
January 18th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
1.The Real D-Rac Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Al Davis is a living Football GOD!
Jerr is the Man!
RAIDER on Mr. Davis, RAIDER on!
It is a GREAT day to be a RAIDER fan!
Just Win Baby!
#1
January 18th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Well we got a good coach in my eye…. But we are still incomplete as a coaching staff…. We need a good D coordinator not some second rate coach…. Cuz if you noticed we always have some average D coordinator to go along with are supposed above average offensive coordinator… I believe we are already better with hue cuz the head coach should be the one to have to call the plays ( defense or offense) because he is the most competent to do so… Let’s you know your coach knows or doesn’t know what he is doing…. Hue was masterful on calling the reverse at the right time…. I don’t think we had any negative reverse plays… He came out flat a few games but execution has had it’s role in that more than a few times…. And gotta love his honesty saying cable is just a great o line coach….
January 18th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
the prob is the D coordinator has to run Al’s man2man scheme and not be allowed to disguise or blitz like they do with Rex Ryan’s Jets.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
aig-raiders Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
LMN,
I think what you need to tell your debate buddy is the Raiders are like crack cocaine. Hard to get rid of it from your system even when you hate the crack dealer.
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Yea.
You hate it, and it costs you money, but you do it anyway.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
From the brief part of today’s event that I got to see..first, I thought Hue sounded very self-assured. I thought he was impressive.
Second, Davis looks very, very bad. Not just the huge, seeping wound on his head that two bandages couldn’t conceal. He obviously took a tumble recently.
Although he mispronounced some names, and occasionaly started to ramble, I thought he seemed surprisingly sharp mentally. Still on top of things, for an 81 year old man.
Just wish I would’ve gotten to see the rest of it. Sounds like I missed the best parts.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Hue was definitely impressive today. He always carries himself well. I think he’ll be more effective as a motivator than a playcaller though.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Who is “Kim Newton”?
January 18th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Cable was a moron, glad he is gone.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
HE CALLED THE PLAYS THIS YEAR LOOKED GOOD 2 ME
January 18th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
The Oakland Raiders’ wide receiver corps is full of youth and talent andmost of which is untapped.
Reality television has a way of making seemingly untalented people into instant celebrities.
What correlation is there between a celebrity and an All-Star athlete? They are practically synonymous. It seems to me, that in the new era of diva receivers. Most wide receivers create their celebrity status from their off-field antics rather than from their precise route-running and sure-handedness.
Darrius Heyward-Bey, Louis Murphy, Jacoby Ford and Chaz Schilens each have strengths and weaknesses, as does every human being. A reality television show would build confidence for this group.
I feel that as at the end of the 2010 NFL season, the only Raider receiver who has the necessary amount of self-confidence is Jacoby Ford.
I say this because Jacoby came into the 2010 season with little to no expectations and contributed heavily in the second half of the season. His small frame and lightening speed enable him to get around defenders and go unnoticed in the secondary of opposing teams. He made some fantastic plays. Whether he was blowing by cornerbacks or practically fist-fighting to gain control of the football.
Darrius Heyward-Bey is the complete opposite of Jacoby Ford. He was drafted seventh overall in 2009, much to Mel Kiper’s surprise. Physically, Heyward-Bey has all of the intangibles. He runs decent routes, he has blazing speed, and he has the frame that is standard amongst NFL receivers.
Tim Umphrey/Getty Images Darrius, due to his draft status, was expected to come in and immediately contribute to a languishing offense. He did not. In fact, in his second year, although he did make some remarkable improvements in his physique and route-running, he still lacks the ability to get separation and his hands are suspect at best.
Louis Murphy was a fourth-round pick in 2009 and was a pleasant surprise, making some big plays for the Raiders immediately. He is an aggressive player, and he boasts an attitude. In his first year however, Murphy made some spectacular catches—scores even—that the referees deemed incomplete for one reason or another. That could have gone one of two ways. One, Murphy could have started playing with a chip on his shoulder, and showed the refs who was boss. Or two, which was the case, he let it affect his confidence.
In 2010, Murphy’s numbers should have improved greatly from his rookie season. He actually gained 100 yards less, and scored two less times, albeit, he did miss two games.
Chaz Schilens is a depressing case. I don’t know what goes on behind closed doors, or in the doctor’s office, but I have theories. Schilens had an unremarkable rookie season, only starting six games. His second year, 2009, his season was still unremarkable, but the games in which he performed at a high level, he looked amazing.
Then he was hurt. His injury problems are frustrating. It’s as if when he gets hurt, it gains interest, compounding at unrealistic rates. When he is finally healthy, one has to wonder if he will be able to put the fear of injuring himself again aside.
I know that T.O. and Ochocino didn’t have “incredible” seasons, but I think that they are a great example of confidence, or arrogance, depending on your take.
Our receiving corps could certainly use an infusion of the energy and attitude that these guys bring to the table. Will it make them catch a ball and hold it securely? No. But it would certainly enable them to deal with the spotlight of being great and that’s where they are headed—greatness.
Well Raider fans, let’s hear some potential titles. I look forward to your responses.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
PassTheCheetos Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
# waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Why do people trash Al Davis yet still want to be Raiders a fan? Doesn’t make sense. You want things your way, buy your own team.
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because Al is not Raiders, we are Raiders fans, not Al-fans…
a j3w might love his ford, but that does not mean he likes the antisemitic views Henry Ford had, now does that make sense to you??
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Nope. If he didn’t like the maker, why would he support him by buying his product? The more it doesn’t make sense. It becomes hypocritical
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because he likes the car, thats why… product and maker isnt the same thing… just like the raiders are the team we love, and Al is pathetic in the view of some…
if your dad is an 1diot, but you are a nice guy, shouldnt people still be friends with you? (not that Im saying he or you are any of these things)
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Product and maker may not be the same. But if there is no maker there will be no product. But still why would you buy a product from someone you hate?
If my father were an 1diot(as you mentioned) and I were a nice guy(not that I’m saying he nor I are any of these things), I would not want to be friends with nor trust anyone who would not respect him, even if he’s an 1diot.
You say the raiders are the team you love. The raider team does not always have the same players every year. If they leave do you follow each of them to the next team? If not, why not? Are you a fan of the brand?
A lot of negativity begin with the raider “fans” and then the haters build on it.
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Lol product or maker? The maker is Al the product hasnt had a good season in years, whats there to like about either.
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So…if you don’t like either one…what are you doing here?
January 18th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Hue is an above average playcaller but he was a little inconsistent, if the defense can put the offense in better situations…. He can be deadly… Just like the Denver and Seattle games…..
January 18th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
THE WRS ON THIS TEAM NEED 2 B TOUGH LOOK AT THE LAST GREAT RAIDER RECIVER TIMMY BROWN INTHE BEGINING YES FAST BUT BECAME A SUPERIOR THREAT OVER THE MIDDLE JUST PRODUCED ALLA HINES WARD JACOBY BROUGHT THAT AND SUCEEDED EVEN THE AIR APPARENT JERRY PORTER WITH THE TUTORING OF HALL OF FAMERS JERRY RICE AND TIMMY COULD BRING THAT NEEDED TOUGHNESS REGARDLESS OF BEING A DIVA
January 18th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I’ll try to put my feelings into words. Al Davis is like no other owner in pro sports. This is his life. He’s like a family member, who is not your favorite, but you have to deal with. I admire his football knowledge, but can’t stand the way he does business. Players love him, because he pays them extremely well. Coaches end up hating him, because he is too controlling. Al Davis’ lack of trust in Head Coaches and pick of QBs has cost the Raider Nation big time in the past 20 years. I can only hope he lets Hue Jackson do his job, peacefully.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Listening to the presser (voice only).
NEVER EVER go against Al when it comes to the legal sht. Man, he will eat you alive!!!!
He just blow up Cable!
January 18th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Buckeyeraider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Kell,
Did you get to see the presser in it’s entirety?
What did Davis say about Cable? Picked up bits and pieces from posters comments,
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Yeah, Buckeye. He went overhead projector on Cable in the 2nd half of the 1hr 38 min press conference.
Basically went over the battery charges of women and Randy Hanson. Accused him of lying about it. Accused him of taking whores on Road Trips.
Said he didn’t act on the charges before because he was waiting for the legalese to sort itself out.
The Check garnisheeing was an insurance the possibility of a lawsuit again the Raiders in Cables Domestic Violence cases & or Randy Jackson.
And that Cable had done grave damage to the Raiders, etc, etc, etc.
I thought it was tacky and classless, He could have taken a few reporters aside to provide that background info off camera.
But, he was settling scores.
That was a nasty crack on his skull too. I guess he fell
January 18th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Thanks Kell.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Buckeye
It was a hella long Press Conference, one of his assistants tried to get him off the stage before he went there on Cable.
But, Hue Jackson was very impressive, imo. I just wish he didn’t have to sit there all that time while Davis talked about Tom Cable.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
You guys forget. Its ‘rumored’ that its Cable or someone in his camp that actually began leaking the info about Al fining him in the first place. Now Al just blow him up on it.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
two words :vincent jackson
January 18th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
One more thing. I thought Al Davis was more coherent than I’ve seen him in his recent hiring press conferences, in the first half of the presser when the focus was Hue Jackson and the future.
Then, of course, he had to go there.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
I found the Presser very interesting. But I have to admit Al looking hella crazy and gong after Cable undermines the Raiders credibiliy. He would have been smart to introduce Hue and move on. The press was fine with that. They were all heading out. He is the one that called everyone back in for the fireworks.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
8RaiderReign8 Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
BoJacks Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
What did Kawakami say? I turned to the station too late.
Probably butthurt b/c he got messed with
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More than butthurt. He just bashed Al the whole time and wondered why Al would rip Cable when he ripped the guy before that. He was like “Al knows who I am.” Al my not think about this guy for 1sec after the presser.
He was wrong in that Al doesn’t always rip coaches going out the door, just ones he doesn’t like.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
I think Al had to tell his story of Cable, not only for the fans but the players. I thought that he had some good points to make. Does this mean that I always agree with AD and worship him? Nope.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Is it at all possible Davis hires someone for the only purpose of firing them? At least once a month so he can take questions and answers?
My goodness, his press conferences are fun.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Al just loves this stuff. No, he didn’t have to go there. But he went there because he could.
Al doesn’t come out and defend the Raiders publicly a lot but boy when he does it is good!
January 18th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
dmac,mike bush,z.miller, jford,vince jackson,schillens dhb , build a strong a strong line from center thru the right guard and tackle ,the offense will be unstoppable.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Is it at all possible Davis hires someone for the only purpose of firing them? At least once a month so he can take questions and answers
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I’m 99% sure this was the first time Al has talked to the media in over a year.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
with al you have job security!
January 18th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
i am excited about the raiders direction.. hue jackson has an aura about him. he is a confident man. and i don’t think there is any BS in him.. he looks you directly in the eyes..i am glad to hear waufle and ross are on board.
maybe we’ll get a young gun defensive coordinator. any suggestions?? winston moss?
January 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Cable bascially was getting the Raiders caught up in lawsuits. Al didn’t give any new info really. He just brought the facts out in one cohert picture. The deduction was for insurance.
Cable is pathetic. All this talk about focus blah blah and he’s joy riding it on away games.
(OK maybe a bit of an exagerration but he wasn’t 100# focused on the task at hand)
January 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
How about a young gun at QB?
January 18th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
# waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
# waklaboo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Why do people trash Al Davis yet still want to be Raiders a fan? Doesn’t make sense. You want things your way, buy your own team.
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because Al is not Raiders, we are Raiders fans, not Al-fans…
a j3w might love his ford, but that does not mean he likes the antisemitic views Henry Ford had, now does that make sense to you??
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Nope. If he didn’t like the maker, why would he support him by buying his product? The more it doesn’t make sense. It becomes hypocritical
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because he likes the car, thats why… product and maker isnt the same thing… just like the raiders are the team we love, and Al is pathetic in the view of some…
if your dad is an 1diot, but you are a nice guy, shouldnt people still be friends with you? (not that Im saying he or you are any of these things)
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Product and maker may not be the same. But if there is no maker there will be no product. But still why would you buy a product from someone you hate?
If my father were an 1diot(as you mentioned) and I were a nice guy(not that I’m saying he nor I are any of these things), I would not want to be friends with nor trust anyone who would not respect him, even if he’s an 1diot.
You say the raiders are the team you love. The raider team does not always have the same players every year. If they leave do you follow each of them to the next team? If not, why not? Are you a fan of the brand?
A lot of negativity begin with the raider “fans” and then the haters build on it.
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My respect towards Al goes like this, Im glad that he made a club that I could love, but he is a snake and a liar, thats how he made this franchise, we gotta remember that, he is no saint…
I had genuine respect for him till 1989, from then on it declined (the respect) the gruden-deal, the jano-pick/letting Nedney go and so on, thats when he lost it, 97-01. since then I dont believe ONE word he say, and today he just showed how classless a man he is… Hue Jackson speaks of Arthur Blank, probably tha Classiest owner in the league, but that doesnt mean I love the Falcons does it?
you ask if a player isnt a raider anymore.. if he was great I will love the guy no matter what team he is on, and I will be a fan of him, but I dont love him as I does my raiders.. just as many here once were fans of Favre, even he never played in S&B…
let me say this, regarding the Father-analogy.. respect is earned, so if we were friends, and your father were and 1diot i.e. in the Madoff caliber he never would get my respect, but as of respect towards YOU, I would never say it..
Now Raiders-business and fan-hood isnt a private/family/friendship thing, so I admit, in that case it cant be compared…
Im a fan, and a fan cant be measured, its binary, either you are or not. If some-one says he is fan, well there it is, HE IS!
I dont buy the real fan and hater talks, but I think there are kinds of fans… there are those who buy everything AL is selling all the propaganda all the sh1t… Those often goes to such length to defend Al that they seems like they enjoy the losing streak, as long everything is done Al’s way…
Im the other group. the ones that want more than mediocrity. Al has proved for long time now, that he grasps only fraction of todays game, his stubbornness gets often in the way of winning. He rather be right than win. I dont buy the talk about nobody want to win more than AL, his priority is, being right or remove them who were, get fast guys and then maybe win…
some call that group ‘Haters’ I dont understand, they sure love the raiders if they actually ‘hate’ anyone its the raiders. That group of fans just want more than the complaisant group, lets call the Al-lovers…
JFC what a rant =) well I just dont compare AL towards the raiders.. yeah his coniving and cheating are the reason they exist, but when on the field and we score I dont see Al down there, I see Silver and Black!
Now! I need a smoke =)
January 18th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
# Raiders for life Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
Is it at all possible Davis hires someone for the only purpose of firing them? At least once a month so he can take questions and answers
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I’m 99% sure this was the first time Al has talked to the media in over a year.
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This is the first time Al has spoken publicly since September 2009
but maybe it would be a good idea, then we would have a new HC every other year… like cable should ahve a punching bag installed in Seattle, Al should have a guy he could fire each day..
January 18th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
but when on the field and we score I dont see Al down there, I see Silver and Black!
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How many owners actually run into the endzone and belly bump and high five with the players? Plus…Al can’t do that. The game would be over before he was wheeled down to the field.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
WOW! it seems that Cable is some kind of slimball much worse than I would’ve ever believed. His crap about loving the Raiders and all seems very sgallow right now.
AS I said last night he wouldn’t have taken his money unless he knew it was within his rights.
But to hell with Cable I think Hue is a great aquisition at this juncture. He certainly knows what it’s like to coach the raiders there is no mystery here.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
The first part of the presser was great. I was proud of the Raiders, thought Hue was awesome and Al conducted himself calmly and coherently. NFLN broke away at the right moment to contain national ridicule of the conference, and Al.
If he could have just let it go when they tried to end it it would have been fine, but then he started to talk about the Cable stuff and I was like; no…..don’t do it Al, c’mon man. But it was too late.
It was going so well.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Gotta Love Al, the history channel was talking today…
January 18th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
At times it showed on the field that he wasn’t necessarily on the up and up with the QB situation and someother things. I think he confused the Oline at times which also showed on the field. Never allowing guys to settle in one position.
January 18th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Al is classic. Love him or hate him. That guy is just classic. He went overhead projector on Tom. Man. The guy is the best entertainment money can buy.
Question for Tom Cable? If you knew Al had this information WHY THE HEL WOULD YOU FILE A GRIEVANCE????? Especially when you were a 1st hand witness when he blasted Kiffin!!!!! with the overhead projector (which was one for the ages)!
Just shows how stupid Cable is. Man, he should have just walked away and let things get swept under the rug.
And you guys wanted this for your HC? HA!
January 18th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Bwhahahhah let me just correct some glitch here first, >>>corrections<<>>NOT<<>>ITS AL<<<. That group of fans just want more than the complaisant group, lets call the Al-lovers…
January 18th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
When asked about Hiring a GM Mr Davis said about someone who had been working for the organization in that role for the Raiders that the press did not know about for the last 8 months.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
I gotta say that if Hue works out, I hope that he will stay here for a long time because The Raiders need stability and no more fights with Al who is always against the world! Why I became a fan and why I still am!
January 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
I dont get what happened in post 56..
well, Ill try again.
Bwhahahhah let me just correct some glitch here first,
>NOTITS AL<. That group of fans just want more than the complaisant group, lets call the Al-lovers…
January 18th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
wtf?? its editing my posts!?!?
January 18th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I kinda felt sorry for Cable and now I really for sorry for him! Wow…
January 18th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
I dont get what happened in post 56 AND 59..
well, Ill try again.
Bwhahahhah let me just correct some glitch here,
*-* = correction
“some call that group ‘Haters’ I dont understand, they sure love the raiders if they actually ‘hate’ anyone its *NOT* the raiders, *ITS AL*. That group of fans just want more than the complaisant group, lets call the Al-lovers…
January 18th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
man, after looking at the slide show…is it just me or does hue jackson remind anybody of george foreman….and al davis like that thing from tales of the crypt
January 18th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
there it was…
freakish weird, though
January 18th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
>NOTITS AL<.
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Did you just call him no tits Al?
January 18th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
I’m not trying to be disrespectful to AL I have alot of respect for his accomplishments over the years. The last few years he has lost me, having said that he looks like the walking dead. Holy cow how much longer can he go?
January 18th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
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# hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
I gotta say that if Hue works out, I hope that he will stay here for a long time because The Raiders need stability and no more fights with Al who is always against the world! Why I became a fan and why I still am!
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we all know Hue tops will get 2 years here
January 18th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
First time I heard Hue speak last season I knew he was the man! That guy is a motivator. He will get the best out of you. He almost carries the same brashness of Rex Ryan. In your face confidence.
Now sounds like the Ravens had to make a move to keep Pagano there. That sucks! This guy must have been really good for them to let go their DC after making the playoffs! That really sucks man. Hue had his guy and he must have had the right one. I hate going after 2nds
January 18th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Al is who he is. He felt the need to exonerate himself. Feels unfairly criticized, and actually made good points.
I just wish he didn’t come off so defensive. Al should just do what he does and leave it at that. He shouldn’t feel it neccessary to explain himself cuz it always comes off as overly defensive, and then it just gets weird like it did today.
Al, just do what you do and don’t worry what the media think cuz they’re just gonna blast you even worse. There’s no point. Nothing good comes from it.
Haters are gonna hate no matter what you say and your supporters are gonna be there no matter what. No need to justify yourself. Let well enuff alone.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
# Raiders for life Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
>NOTITS AL<.
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Did you just call him no tits Al?
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Muahahahhaha, LOL, well it was sure as he11 not intentionally, but compraed to cable and Rob Ryans man-tits, Al lacks =)
January 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Hey LMN, you know I mentioned that I hope Hue will be here for a long time because that is what Hue said. He said that he plans on being here for a long time!
January 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Now, the Ravens said Cam Cameron was safe. Hopefully that means we can get Saunders in here. But will Saunders go for an OC job where he’s not calling the plays?
Hopefully the ‘false rumor mongerer’ use of the word “likely” carries some weight.
Damn Ravens pulled the magic carpet from under our legs with Pagano.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Ravens saw the writing on the wall and had to act fast with Pagano. It says a lot that they departed with their former DC just to keep him and promote him to DC.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Al is who he is. He felt the need to exonerate himself. Feels unfairly criticized, and actually made good points.
I just wish he didn’t come off so defensive. Al should just do what he does and leave it at that. He shouldn’t feel it neccessary to explain himself cuz it always comes off as overly defensive, and then it just gets weird like it did today.
Al, just do what you do and don’t worry what the media think cuz they’re just gonna blast you even worse. There’s no point. Nothing good comes from it.
Haters are gonna hate no matter what you say and your supporters are gonna be there no matter what. No need to justify yourself. Let well enuff alone.
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here is the hater crap again, grow up, learn some new words for christ sake…
you say he was defensive, I say classless/pathetic..
yeah if he were smart he would take up the fight, and just say “we didnt pick up the option on Coach Cable’s contract” and leave it wiht that… but NO, AL each year has to give this smallminded pathetic explanation about what this and what that…
AL maybe know how to get the attention, but here sure as he11 dont know how to spin the press..
January 18th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Hue said the system will stay the same so that means the new OC is just a puppet. Saunders doubtfully would go into a situation where everything was setup and he had little or no input.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
I think Al can swing Saunders. He’s interviewed that guy a dozen times. They must like each other.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
I told you guys 2 years ago he had someone already in mind and was probably already working in that capacity. It’s someone I think he was grooming for taht position in the near future. His son is also getting very involved in some other things as well as the personnel like Stadium issues.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
People have compared Steinbrenner to Al Davis. Fairly or unfairly. Steinbrenner fired Billy Martin like 5 times? Went thru numerous managers etc. etc.
One big difference is Steinbrenner WON and often, but it took a while.
The criticsim would turn to mad, eccentric genius IF Al were to WIN..CONSISTENTLY.
Stenbrenner had much more money but not right away. He built up the franchise and made smart moves buy being willing to do whatever it takes to WIN.
Lets start winning and the rest takes care of itself.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
tj, you havent told anybody anything in here ever….period
January 18th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
So Tom Cable was having all these meetings with guys and said they learned their lesson from losing to Pittsburgh and Miami about maintaining their focus. Then goes out and flies broads in to Jax’ville to get some the night before the game.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
# TerrapinRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Ravens saw the writing on the wall and had to act fast with Pagano. It says a lot that they departed with their former DC just to keep him and promote him to DC.
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LOL… its not like we could snag him from them, if they chose to make him DC and we too, he could decide himself, even make a contract negotiation out of it..
and ther didnt departed with their DC, he went away on his own…
January 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
504 where did you read that?
January 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Why?
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# hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I kinda felt sorry for Cable and now I really for sorry for him! Wow…
January 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
I’m not sure if Al meant friend(s) in a singular fashion or plural. He was talking about 1 woman really. But he said he would fly his friends out to be with him in a plural sense. It could of been that he misspoke.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
We will have a DC when Green Bay lose it’s next game.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Hey LMN, you know I mentioned that I hope Hue will be here for a long time because that is what Hue said. He said that he plans on being here for a long time!
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well does that matter at all? Im sure all the other HC said they would stay here for a long time, that they would turn it around, that they would get us to the Playoffs, just like Hue did… But what actually happened and what they wnat to happen is not the same thing… I hope it wont happen, but my money is on, that Hue is gone in 2 years time, and we yet again are below .500
January 18th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
well wasnt I going for a smoke?
January 18th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Do you really believe their DC went away on his own. I mean Seriously?
Things don’t just happen in a vaccuum as we say. What reason would he have to leave after makin the playoffs ONE and just to be a DC at the college level TWO??
Cause and effect man. Cause and effect. Pagono was being propositioned by the Raiders. You think it was a coincidence that the Ravens immediately moved to make Pegano DC?
January 18th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Because he got served by Al…LOL
# Mistabr0wn Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Why?
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# hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I kinda felt sorry for Cable and now I really for sorry for him! Wow…
January 18th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
tj get served by me every night Im here do you feel sorry for tj?
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# hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Because he got served by Al…LOL
# Mistabr0wn Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Why?
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# hwnrdr Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
I kinda felt sorry for Cable and now I really for sorry for him! Wow…
January 18th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Tom Cable is riding high off perceived reputation right now. Al just dropped the bomb on him. He’ll be done within a few years. Maybe two max when his contract runs out or he’s fired.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Thats why I don’t understand why he just didn’t let it ride. But that just goes to show just how stupid he was/is.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Tom Cable buffoonery
January 18th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Mista,
It was in the Al Davis presser on that link provided in the previous thread. Al Davis presser #3.
Al said Cable was preaching to the team about staying focused and he flew in women on road trips to see the night before game. It happened within playoff stretch run and the Jax’ville game had to be what he was referring to. That was a big loss for us and Al was mentioned on this blog after that game as being pissed.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Whats wrong with flying in women at night?
January 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
It’s in here:
40.noteasilyimpressed Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Complete Hue Jackson presser: http://www.knbr.com/Podcasts/tabid/1065/Default.aspx
January 18th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Mista, I was being sarcastic…preach staying focus and himself goes out of the way to get distracted? And whats between you and Tj, I’ll stay out of…
January 18th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
95.Mistabr0wn Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Whats wrong with flying in women at night?
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Nothing for you and me. But Al Davis said “it wasn’t the Raider way.”
January 18th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
The Cable Guy??
January 18th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Al said #21 wont be resigned for 17 mil. The old man has seen the light…Aso isnt worth top DB $$$$$. Like AL said we can sign 2 or 3 guys for that money that can make an impact.
Zero Int’s, zero forced fumbles, 17 or 18 tackles on the year is downright pitiful for a guy making that jack.
See you #21!!!
Also, AL said J Ford would look good wearing #21 like the great Cliff Branch, enjoy your new # Jacoby!
January 18th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Hue turned around the offense and is Head Coach. Great! Now the test is getting a darn good Defensive Coordinator. Then we can talk playoffs!
January 18th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/ae336/r8eray/ad/tom.png
January 18th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
It was the Raider way back in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. Its ok if we are winning. I didnt care for Cable but if he wants to have a piece in his hotel room after hours who gives a toot!
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# 504 Raider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
Nothing for you and me. But Al Davis said “it wasn’t the Raider way.”
January 18th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
You know that explains why he looked out of it while wearing the headset for nothing…
January 18th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Then the beating women stuff. Just gotta put the kabosh on that. Sounds like a few women involved.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
I know the players did that; but I never heard the coaches doing it. Certaintly not the HC.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Do you really believe their DC went away on his own. I mean Seriously?
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yeah, seriously! no team fires their DC, if they have the 2nd best defense.. Im sure he just felt he was done in the NFL, and wanted more time..
they could promote Pagano, but he still have to accept, if he wanted to be raiders DC, they couldnt do much about it, other than pay him more.. and Im sure he got more as DB coach in Baltimore than he would have in Oakland as a DC, so yeah, I dont buy it one bit… actually I think its funny you think that pagano wanted to go back here as DC, when he already have been in this circus, in stead of being in a smooth franchise, with all going for them..
whats Pagano’s chances for a Playoff trip as a baltimore employee compared to as a raider employee… if were are lucky were on the way up, they are already there..
So no, I dont think their DC got fired, I think he left.
if you are right it just shows 2 things, that we are to slow to act (as always) and that were are an inferior franchise compared to baltimore…
If we ever had a chance to snag Pagano, we should have anounced Hue as HC the same day Cable got fired, no reason to waste time
January 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Isn’t there a blog for all you Niner and Bronco fans to go to?
Go to google and type in ‘Bronco lovers’. (wait. that might take you to a very weird fetish site which you’d probably prefer anyway). Or, “Niner fans football talk”. Something like that and you’ll get to you guys need to be.
The fact you hate the Raiders so much and yet frequent THIS blog show much you are actually owned by you obsession and hatred for the Raiders.
Remember:
“Hatred is a poison that a person drinks and then waits for the other person to die”.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
The dude has issues to be sure, he likes putting his hands on people when he can’t get his way. He is going to pay one way or the other. Hitting women is cowardly act he’s 280+ lbs. how many women could handle being hit by him.
I hue get sthe people he wants to help him get things done I think he has a plan as I stated months ago I just hope he’s ready to execute it.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Priest, you knew about Cable hitting women before last season, yet I hardly heard you rail against it in this activist manner like you are now. Guess women beaters have to be out of Al’s inner circle before you’ll criticize them. A@@hole.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
lol
January 18th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
well guys..
Ill go home to bed, its 6AM here soon..
take care!
January 18th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
tj steps in cow piles every night but he comes back for his beating every freaking night…LMAO!
January 18th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Jason Campbell could beat a woman to a bloody pulp tonight, priest, and you’ll say she had it coming. Oh, and when I say she, I’m talking about the woman he hits, not Campbell.
January 18th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Campbell looks like Ashanti.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
tj whatever you do…..dont stop posting.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
priesttj Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
The dude has issues to be sure, he likes putting his hands on people when he can’t get his way. He is going to pay one way or the other. Hitting women is cowardly act he’s 280+ lbs. how many women could handle being hit by him.
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I see you are no longer calling him the next Madden?
January 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
H Jack’s gap rivals Strahans….wow that thing is wide!
January 18th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
H Jack’s gap rivals Strahans….wow that thing is wide!
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Yeah, when I saw that gap I didn’t know if I should smile….or kick a field goal.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation……..AL DAVIS……what he meant too say was i will fire hue
January 18th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
AL didnt like Cable personally or professionally. Its kinda funny that they spent 4 or 5 years together.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Then the beating women stuff. Just gotta put the kabosh on that. Sounds like a few women involved.
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That was 2 years ago, and you never said a word, bootlicker.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
i don`t know if cable beat his wife,that a he said she said thing.he did how ever break the jaw of a asst. coach.
p.s. he cost the raiders the division.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
this is great… Even Al’s wife gives him sh!t.
“I’ve made mistakes, yes. No question. We also need great players,” Davis said. “Should I take some of the blame? I certainly do. You guys give it to me. You want me to get it from my wife? I do. She was used to winning.”
January 18th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
priest, I have news for you. If Hue wins, and I think he will (and be subsequently ran out by Al, like Gruden was), guess what? Al will have very little to do with it. Al signs Hue’s checks, that’s it. Hue’s going to be the one putting the gameplans together, and getting the players in position to win. Then it’s the players getting it done. Al’s role? To sit up there with his mangled f’n hands and just watch, like the fans.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
# phatcable Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
The fire in Hue will set a flame that will burn for a long time in the hearts and minds of the Raider football team and the Raider Nation……..AL DAVIS……what he meant too say was i will fire hue
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lol
January 18th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
KK, shouldn’t you be cleaning your bed pan?
January 18th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Is it just me?….or did Al just break-up with Nnamdi in the presser?
January 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
No wonder Al never sued me for calling his HC a Wife Beating Buffoon.
He agreed with me.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Al’s nothing more than a fan, priest. He’s never thrown one touchdown pass. Never made one game saving tackle. Hasn’t put together a game plan to put his players in position to win in nearly a half century. He’s just the guy who hired everyone, that’s it. And that’s all he’ll get credit for if this team turns the corner. Might as well warm up to that now. If you think there’s going to be this “he’s a jolly good fellow” celebration for Al if this team turns the corner under Hue, forget it. It’s Hue will be hoisting, same as Gruden. Just get used to it.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Al said the obvious:
“#21 isnt worth 17 mil”
And then he put an exclamation point on it by saying J Ford will look good wearing #21
January 18th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Just one hour after Raiders owner Al Davis did his best to make sure no one would ever hire Tom Cable again, the Seahawks announced they’ve hired Cable as assistant head coach/offensive line coach.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
al davis = tales of the crypt
January 18th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
KK, thats the Seahawks problem. You go out of your way to backhand AL and all you do is make a buffoon out of yourself.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
Al Davis bashes another great Raider.
Marcus Allen
Jon Gruden
Rich Gannon
Nnamdi Asomugha
Sorry, Al, but they’re in the history books. They’ve played great football wearing the silver and black, and you can’t erase that. They’re great Raiders. All of them. That’s what you get for bringing in good players. Typically, they’re going to play good. The proper thing to do is thank them when they leave.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
BrownStains, why don’t you go back to your trailer & cockroaches, where you’re happy, I guess.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
U forgot Howie Long & T Christensen.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2011/01/18/al-davis-post-presser-on-gruden-the-patriots-missing-moss-and-the-squareness-in-me/
—-AL DAVIS, post-presser gaggle/
-Q: Do you regret trading Jon Gruden to Tampa?
-AL DAVIS: Oh no, no, I don’t. No. Not at all. Nope. Because look, Jon beat us in the g-damn Super Bowl, that’s the only thing I regret. But take a look at Jon’s performance at Tampa.
-Q: But Gruden won a Super Bowl.
-AL DAVIS: What are you talking about? His deal at Tampa, how long was he there?
-Q: Five years? Seven years?
-AL DAVIS: What did he do?
-Q: He won a Super Bowl.
-AL DAVIS: Yeah, the first year. Beat us. He didn’t win a Super Bowl, he beat us with … Dungy goes around and says it’s Dungy’s team.
Q: But you haven’t had a coach longer than four years since then…
-AL DAVIS: Yeah, well that’s true. But I gave him the first two years, and then the next two years I gave it to him because I felt that we were ready. But that’s what it is. I can’t deny it. You can read.
-Q: Did Jackson get the same kind of contract, two years and two years at a team option?
-AL DAVIS: I didn’t say what he did.
-Q: I’m asking you…
-AL DAVIS: Yeah, well, I’m not telling you. That’s up to you.
-Q: Are you demanding on coaches?
-AL DAVIS: No, that’s B.S.
-Q: Would you say you’re about average as far as the league goes? It seems to me you’re demanding.
-AL DAVIS: Yeah, I’m demanding of doing it right and being right, and treating players right.
I’m a great believer that you praise players. For a while here, between Kiffin and the other fellah, they were knocking the players. He changed this year because of me, praising players.
I don’t believe you knock people like that. I just never have. I like players. If I’m demanding, I’m sorry that I am. But I don’t think I am. I’ve had a lot of great coaches come through here.
Look, go get David Shaw. He would be a perfect guy. Ask him where he learned. Go get Jim, ask him where he learned. Harbaugh. Ask Fox, who’s now the head (coach) and getting a second chance at Denver .
I could just go down the list of all these guys that have been here, they go through here. What’s his name couldn’t wait to come back, Mike Waufle. He was the most sought after defensive line coach other than from the Giants. But, I’m not going to sell my philosophy.
-Q: Were the allegations of Cable doing stuff while he was coach of the Raiders?
-AL DAVIS: No, I’m talking while he was with the Raiders and I told you that ESPN documented all three things. You have to get it out of ESPN.
But then there are other things that he did that were not documented on ESPN. This Lutz complaint. But I can’t talk about it, I just can’t. Check with a lawyer. Is he telling us the scoop? I’d like to talk about it, I really would.
-Q: So, the Lutz lawsuit was settled?
-AL DAVIS: I was told that it was just settled, not dismissed.
-Q: How important is a head coach to winning?
-AL DAVIS: A head coach? Very important.
-Q: How frustrating has it been not to get the right head coach in here in recent years?
-AL DAVIS: Well, it may not have been the right one; it may not have been (we had) all the good players. I have to be honest. I have to check myself. I thought we could have done better several times.
Take a look at Norv (Turner) is fighting for his life down there in San Diego. Everyone was excited when he was with the 49ers. Then, when he went down there, he got them into the playoffs and all but now they’re starting to slip a little. It’s pretty tough to hang on to that damned thing.
I had picked Payton, Sean, brought him out here, Mike Lombardi was handling it, got him under contract all set. He went home to Dallas, and Jerry (Jones) didn’t want to lose him, so he gave him a million-dollar contact as an assistant and made promises to him and then the next year he goes to New Orleans.
They win a Super Bowl, then this year they’re supposed to ride through the playoffs, they get beat by Seattle that we nailed them (by 30 points).
-Q: What do you make of Kiffin’s post-Raiders career?
-AL DAVIS: Well, you make the determination. You guys had it all figured out. You ought to read the opinion of what the arbitrator said (about) who’s a liar.
-Q: We would like to read that ruling.
-AL DAVIS: You can’t get it? You can get it.
-Q: Was there any doubt that you would beat him in arbitration?
-AL DAVIS: Well, I beat him because he lied. He’s a liar. He lied to you guys. He got letters… (Expletive) him if he was a liar. He lied in Tennessee .
-Q: Do you have the talent to win 10, 11, 12 games?
-AL DAVIS: I don’t think games. We had the talent to get into the playoffs, like we did in ‘80 – I saw Glenn (Dickey) sitting here; he laughed at me in his column because I’m playing Cliff Branch and Jim Plunkett. He called them … What is that word they use for old-timers?
-Q: Legends? Reclamation projects? Retreads?
-AL DAVIS: Yeah, yeah, retread, that’s the one they use. No one that we ever played wanted to cover Cliff Branch, that’s for sure, no matter how old he was.
Then, New England got a lesson the other day. Not that the guy still has it, but had they kept him, they would have beaten the Jets.
-Q: Moss?
-AL DAVIS: Yes.
-Q: Do you regret trading Moss?
-AL DAVIS: Yes, I did at the time. Yeah.
-Q: Not now?
-AL DAVIS: I can’t look back that far now. No, that’s a mistake I made. I let it happen. The coach wanted to trade him. He scared him. All coaches are scared of him.
-Q: Are you worried that Cable’s going to come out with some stories?
-AL DAVIS: Oh, I don’t care. He can tell whatever he wants. He can tell whatever he wants. Cable…
-Q: Do all the coaching changes wear on you?
-AL DAVIS: No, they don’t wear on me but there’s no question it could be easier if I didn’t have to make the changes.
-Q: Why was it improper for Cable to bring a lady friend on the road? I know when Nolan was coaching the 49ers, his wife regularly went to road games. What’s the etiquette of it?
-AL DAVIS: I guess it’s the squareness in me that it’s never been, the players can’t have wives before the game. If the coach has got to concentrate on the game, and he’s got his wife there, in another room, she shouldn’t be with him.
We never have allowed it. She shouldn’t be with him in the hotel. I don’t think it’s right, that’s all. Sometimes, it leads to what happened.
She claims, it was on the ESPN show, I don’t know what show she was on, that he hit here. What the hell does that have to do with the football game of ours. No, I don’t like it.
-Q: Did some of these alleged incidents occur during Raiders road trips?
-AL DAVIS: Yes. Look, let me say something. I’m not apologizing for any of that. He deserved it.
What am I going to do, sit here and take the wrath of a lot of women because I supposedly didn’t …. I don’t know what he did. It’s just what they claim.
-Q: What are your thoughts about Darrius Heyward-Bey?
-AL DAVIS: He’s going to be good.
-Q: What do you see from him that makes you think so?
-AL DAVIS: Explosion. He can catch, he’s getting better and he’s a good guy. He’s going to be good.
-Q: Would you like to see your son Mark taking on a heightened role?
-AL DAVIS: He’s going to take on whatever role he wants because, as for longevity, I don’t have a cap or no cap, so I could be four years or a few weeks. So, when I’m gone, he will take on the role.
-Q: How will this team be different from tenures of Kiffin and Cable, whose problems one could say almost exceeded those of Kiffin?
-AL DAVIS: What do you mean, you could almost say? So, what are you asking me? Well, I don’t expect to even think of terms of what we’ve had over the last few years.
No, I think in terms that (Jackson)’s upstanding, got a super family and that he knows how to live and what’s expected of him.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
KK, why dont you get a new dis that isnt played out & retarded?
January 18th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Cable’s actually a good offensive line coach. It’s where he belongs. He’s a good enough O line coach to coach anywhere. Pittsburgh. He was just never a head coach. Only Al thought he was. Cable was Al’s idea. Nobody else’s. Nobody else had ever considered him as head coach. Same with Russell. Nobody else had considered Russell in the first round. It was Al’s idea.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
I read in the newspaper the other day, that Davis has sued 4 out of his 5 last Head Coaches.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
123.KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Then the beating women stuff. Just gotta put the kabosh on that. Sounds like a few women involved.
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That was 2 years ago, and you never said a word, bootlicker.
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Oh that BS. I been wanted Cable FIRED before and after the reported incident! Nothing changed in my stance. Watch how you callin’ bootlicker, mf
January 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
So he hires another Head Coach with no options elsewhere.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
lol… Al said f’k him talking about Lane Kiffin
-Q: What do you make of Kiffin’s post-Raiders career?
-AL DAVIS: Well, you make the determination. You guys had it all figured out. You ought to read the opinion of what the arbitrator said (about) who’s a liar.
-Q: We would like to read that ruling.
-AL DAVIS: You can’t get it? You can get it.
-Q: Was there any doubt that you would beat him in arbitration?
-AL DAVIS: Well, I beat him because he lied. He’s a liar. He lied to you guys. He got letters… (Expletive) him if he was a liar. He lied in Tennessee
January 18th, 2011 at 9:21 pm
I think Al is a major impediment to the Raiders winning, but damned if he doesn’t keep things interesting and entertaining…..but mostly frustrating.
Al has made some good choices over the past few years, like drafting McFadden, firing Cable, firing Ryan, firing Marshall and cutting Russell and hiring Jackson.
Too bad Al was simply fixing his own mistakes with Cable, Marshall, Ryan and Russell.
Worst GM in football.
I’ll gladly trade all the offseason entertainment for an owner that canget the job done.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
BrownStains
Do you fly the confederate flag outside your trailer?
January 18th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Nobody talking about Mark talking over…??
January 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
KK, since I dont live in a tralier has it ever crossed your feeble mind how eff’ing retarded and lame you are ?
January 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
tj left?
lmao
January 18th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
When I’m gone, he’s going to take over.”
#Raiders owner Al Davis on his son Mark
January 18th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
KK, since I dont live in a tralier has it ever crossed your feeble mind how eff’ing retarded and lame you are ?
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You’re definitely poor trailer trash, but does this blog ALWAYS have to be about you?
January 18th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Raider75, enjoy it all you want. The last 25 years of Al’s career are going to be remembered more for the disarray and losing than Al’s tough guy antics.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
BrownStains
Don’t you get ANY attention in real life, geez?
January 18th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
Today a reporter asked if Mark has taken on more of a role with the team. Al said, “Why don’t you ask Mark that?”
January 18th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
Al Davis has almost completely buried his legacy. People under 50 don’t know anything about him, except his fingers.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Al Davis has been LOUSY since 1989.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
AL could do a 1hr PPV show for 10.00 once a week on Sunday nights. I bet he would have more jack than J Jones to spend on his beloved Raiders. He priceless behind that mic…
January 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Q= Al did you have the bolts removed from your neck A=yes i wanted too look my best for this press conference.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
KK, you have been lousy since the day you were born.
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# KoolKell Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Al Davis has been LOUSY since 1989.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
KK, since I dont live in a tralier has it ever crossed your feeble mind how eff’ing retarded and lame you are ?
………..he does not live in a trailer its a house with axles!
January 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
You guys watching Chronicle Live and SportsNet Central? Awesome stuff about JaMarcus. Also had a great interview with JC. On SportsNet Central, Wofford said he called JaMarcus to get his take on Al’s comments about his personal problems. His uncle who is a doctor od some kind said the Raiders are “covering this whole thing up”. Said that JaMarcus was dealing with two deaths in a month’s time and that the Raiders gave no support and that JaMarcus will be back in the NFL next season. Jason Campbell said that Al called him after the Indy game and asked him why he didn’t push the ball downfield more. He said because Indy played so much Cover 2.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
It’s a testament to how he’s surrounded by ass kissers. No other franchise would let their owner get in front of the cameras looking that awful. Raiders’ front office is too scared of Al to confront him about it. It’s like GG said, Al needs an intervention. This guy’s going on camera with a literal gash in his forehead. It looked like fresh blood. It was disgusting. Did anybody in the media there actually ask him about it? They had every right to. It appears to be an injury for crying out loud. Just weird.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
………..he does not live in a trailer its a house with axles!
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too effin funny!
January 18th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
If Russell stays sober he’s capable of anything. He stays sober, gets on a real franchise (heck, even here, if Hue is involved), and he could play in this league. I just don’t think he was worthy of a first round pick. Al and his loyal fans sure did, though.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Hue will not be here no more than 4 years. If he excells, he will get his meal ticket ala Jon Gruden. If he doesnt, it’s gonna get ugly again. Never easy to be a Raider fan is it.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
There was one poster on here who uses to proclaim Al Davis as a Billionaire, remember?
January 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Obvious troll is obvious
January 18th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
If Russell stays sober he’s capable of anything. He stays sober, gets on a real franchise (heck, even here
………..j russell done here take that dog for long walk!
January 18th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Quit making fun of where people live. Don’t you guys realize that’s part of the wealthy class’s plan, to turn the poor against each other? Poor whites calling blacks “ghetto”, poor blacks calling poor whites “trailer trash”. This divisive strategy goes back to Ronald Reagan, using the term “Welfare Queens”. The term “queen” was designed to target black women. The Republican party had to split the poor vote, and they did so by turning poor whites against blacks, making them feel blacks were getting entitlements that were theirs. Don’t fool yourselves. Southern whites are as s o c i a l i s t as any pinko you can name, they just don’t want minorities in on the cut. Look up “dixiecrat”. They were s o c ialists. Believed in a government for their people, confederates.
January 18th, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Tom Cable lands in Seattle
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 18, 2011, 7:33 PM EST
Just one hour after Raiders owner Al Davis did his best to make sure no one would ever hire Tom Cable again, the Seahawks announced they’ve hired Cable as assistant head coach/offensive line coach.
Down the coast in Oakland, Cable’s old co-worker Hue Jackson was simultaneously slamming Cable and giving him a reference.
“What Tom [Cable] is, he’s an exceptional line coach,” Jackson said. (Ouch.)
January 18th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Jimmy Carter was able to unite urban American blacks and southern American whites. Nobody’s done it since. President O. has the right idea, with his talk of unity. But he’s gotten nowhere as far as getting it done. Clinton was a corporatist who was able to spread the wealth and make sure it trickled down to the middle class, and that helped the poor. America saw its lowest crime rates and its most prosperous and peaceful time in history on Clinton’s watch. Interesting that 1999 was supposed to be when the world was going to end. It was the greatest year in American history, as far as the quality of life for the average American goes. It was never better, and will probably never be that good again. When Jimmy Carter ran, it was the people against the wealthy. Period. And he won! We need to get back to that.
January 18th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
noteasilyimpressed Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
How about a young gun at QB?
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Don’t be surprised when AD picks up Alex Smith on the cheap from FA. Then let’s him sit a year or two. Strong arm, mobile, accurate some of the time, frazzled most of the time and most likely lacking a lot of confidence. He was the #1 pick and Al love those types of reclamation projects. Besides, we’ll be needing both a #2 & #3 QB. I don’t see Gradkowski coming back especially after AD mentioned him by name and said “he was just too fragile”.
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