Never make it about money with Davis
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, January 18th, 2011 at 10:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.
You wonder if everything Al Davis laid out for the media Tuesday is worth $120,000 to Tom Cable.
If Cable had never filed a grievance for six paychecks at $20,000 each, Davis wouldn’t have eviscerated his former coach at an event that was supposed to be a coronation for Hue Jackson.
The press conference appeared to be at an end, with the media confused as to whether Davis’ earlier mention of getting back to the reason Cable was fired would take place in the usual gaggle around the stage.
Then Davis wanted everyone seated, and opened up a folder, a moment which brought an overhead projector kind of feel to proceedings that had been relatively normal up to that point.
Davis re-opened the ESPN domestic abuse and Randy Hanson incidents, saying they had brought lawsuits upon the team which had tied up lawyers and served as a distraction. He said Cable flew former girlfriend Marie Lutz in on road trips.
“He’s the head coach and this is the guy who’s talking bout focus, we’ve got a job to do, we’ve got a game to play, we’ve got to win, and they’re flying friends so they can be with him the nigh before the game,” Davis said. “All of this stuff goes a long way against my wishes, my way of living, against my life and against the Raider way and I just wasn’t going to take it any more.”
He said Cable violated the NFL constitution by not keeping him informed on a “timely basis relative to past transgressions.”
Davis said Cable never said a word about the fines, then accused him of leaking the information (ESPN’s Adam Schefter was the first to report it).
“He found something that would stimulate all all you people, as if I wounded him,” Davis said. “He knew I could have thrown him out without any money for what he did to the Raiders with the initial stuff with Hanson . . . there are some things I can’t say because of the legalese about this but there’s no way that he can’t come clean on this.”
Cable discovered the same thing Lane Kiffin did. Make it about money, and Davis won’t hesitate.
He’s long been much more forgiving of the transgressions of his players than his coaches. The things Cable is accused of would be a blip on the silver and black screen of what Raiders players did in their glory years on a weekly basis.
But the players who truly draw Davis’ ire are the ones who go public over issues with money. The root of the Marcus Allen feud in Davis’ mind is that he offered him the most money ever paid to a running back and Allen not only turned him down, but ripped him during a halftime interview on Monday Night Football.
Steve Beuerlein wound up carrying a clipboard for a year for going public in the papers about his contract.
Chester McGlockton complained about his contract to the media and as a result spend his last few years bitter and of course never got the contract.
On the other hand, Tim Brown would routinely have pointed criticisms about the organization but it was never a problem. Why? Because Brown never complained when the Raiders matched an offer sheet to keep him from going to the Broncos, and then routinely renegotiated his contract to help with the salary cap, accepting bonuses instead of salary and doing what he could to help the bottom line.
The money issue so angered Davis that he simply crushed Cable in public, just as he did Kiffin. Those of us who speculated Davis would be livid about his “We’re not losers any more” quote issued after the Chiefs game and during his final press conference were on point. He made one sarcastic reference to it, then later expanded upon his feelings when asked directly if it bothered him.
“I went back and checked it thoroughly. Cable has been in football 20 years, had been with a winning team three years out of 20,” Davis said. “I didn’t like his statement, and some of you took it and used it, but I didn’t like it. If that’s not being a loser in our world, I don’t know what it is, come in 500. That’s never been my goal.”
Hopefully, Hue Jackson was taking notes.
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January 18th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Raider75, you missed my point about how Jimmy Carter was able to unite southern whites and urban blacks for a political cause. Remember those days? Or are you too young?
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Too young. I’m only 38. My first real memories of politics is Reagan getting shot and the Iran Contra stuff with Ollie North.
I was a middle class southern, country white boy with better things to do than get caught up in politics.
Didn’t really care until my pot smoking teen years. lol
January 18th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
lol… I was fir… never mind. Doesn’t really matter!
January 18th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
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and 10!!!
January 18th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
My other concern with today’s PC was that the name of Bush never came up from AD. I certainly hope AD is intending to resign him especially when DMac gets nicked up which happens more often than we’d like. The running game will be the salvation of our offensive dominance. It was good to hear AD draw a connection between Ford and old #21. For those of you too young to have seen Cliff Branch in action, you really missed someone special.
January 18th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Al Davis was a vicious bastard from the jump, but that was all fine when he was winning. Now he just seems weak, vain and old.
Vanity is really his Achilles heel.
Here’s the thing, though: When he kicks it, it is not necessarily going to get better for us. I see no post-Al scenario that doesn’t get pretty sketchy.
January 18th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
JB, he mentioned Bush at length as a battering ram in the secondary, making folks hurt in the second half.
January 18th, 2011 at 10:47 pm
# JB Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
My other concern with today’s PC was that the name of Bush never came up from AD. I certainly hope AD is intending to resign him especially when DMac gets nicked up which happens more often than we’d like. The running game will be the salvation of our offensive dominance. It was good to hear AD draw a connection between Ford and old #21. For those of you too young to have seen Cliff Branch in action, you really missed someone special.
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AD said the combo of McFadden and Bush was explosive. Said it before he introduced Hue.
January 18th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Thanks for the update. I had to step out of the room for a minute & I must have missed that. Good news that he views him that way.
January 18th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Hue said he got over 20 texts from players excited about him getting the job.
I bet Gallery, Lechler, and Gradkowski were 3 that declined.
January 18th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Raider75 Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Hue said he got over 20 texts from players excited about him getting the job.
I bet Gallery, Lechler, and Gradkowski were 3 that declined.
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They can all “decline” their asses right out of town for all I care. All easily replaced.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
There aren’t any real good guys in this situation. Davis has hurt the organization by picking the coaches he later loathes. It’s like a high school break-up. Win the division!
January 18th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Cable and Hackett down. Tollner and Gradkowski to go.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Raider75 Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Hue said he got over 20 texts from players excited about him getting the job.
I bet Gallery, Lechler, and Gradkowski were 3 that declined.
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They can all “decline” their asses right out of town for all I care. All easily replaced.
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no doubt. I said this as a joke. 2 of those 3 won’t be here next season.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:08 pm
Raider75 Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:41 pm
I was a middle class southern, country white boy with better things to do than get caught up in politics.
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Then why are you telling me to shut up? To tell someone to stop talking politics IS a political view in and of itself. The discussion of politics is the want of reform. To denounce such a discussion means that you must believe reform isn’t needed. That everything is fine. If that’s what you believe, I believe you’re in the minority, and you’re going to have a tough time trying to get people to not discuss politics.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
# JB Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Thanks for the update. I had to step out of the room for a minute & I must have missed that. Good news that he views him that way.
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Al just said Bush has the speed and power and not knocking some secondaries, but some teams just don’t want to tackle him in the 4th quarter.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:11 pm
# Tricky70390 Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
We got politics being discussed on this blog now?
Jesus Christ people…
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What’s wrong with that? Almost every comment here is off topic from Jerry’s current blog entries.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Raider75 Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
# RaiderDebo Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Raider75 Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Hue said he got over 20 texts from players excited about him getting the job.
I bet Gallery, Lechler, and Gradkowski were 3 that declined.
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They can all “decline” their asses right out of town for all I care. All easily replaced.
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no doubt. I said this as a joke. 2 of those 3 won’t be here next season.
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Lechler will be here. Would like to see Gallery back but if he wants to go up north, so be it. Bruise absolutely, positively must be shown the door. No more scrubs. I’d have no problem with Alex Smith replacing him.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
KK we will definitely agree on that about StankyBrown the bigot.
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I’ll third that. But why call him “trailer trash”?
January 18th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
He gave Bush a lot of love actually. Said something like he wasn’t going to call out any particular team, but when Bush gets into the defensive backfield in the 3rd and 4th quarters, the DBs are scared to tackle him.
Al and Hue actually gave a lot of players props. Mentioned all the WRs, Zach, Reece, McFadd, Bush, Veld, Camp, gave backhanded props to Bruce, “the three young ends”, Kelly, Seymour vaguely, McClain, think I heard Branch. Didn’t give Nnamdi as much as he could’ve.
I was mostly trying to see who didn’t get mentioned.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
I thought politics and other off topic stuff was the norm around here?
Maybe that guy is new and has never gone through an offseason where the news is really slow.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
I don’t understand why he can’t just discuss what he wants to discuss. He told me to “STFU”, right off the bat, in response to some political views I expressed. Now does that sound to you like someone who’s above politics?
January 18th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
I like Hue. Watching his interview with Papa right now. Jon Gruden meets George Foreman. I love it. He’s really sharp, really business like. And I mean managerial. He reminds me of a former boss of mine who was very similar. Very upbeat, sharp, and positive, yet didn’t tolerate a lack of effort or insubordination. I see the same in Hue. You can see it in his demeanor and hear it in his voice. We’ve got a coach. But unfortunately, we still have Al.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
I love that we got the glimpse of what it’s like to work for Al with the PR guy who told everyone to leave.
“You really f***** that one up”
And the reporters had barely gotten 5 feet away from their seats.
Now imagine if you call a 5 safety defense, go for it on 4th down and it doesn’t work, or call a bad timeout
Pray for Hue…
January 18th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
we forget Al sued the NFL and won… karma from the football gods…. you gotta love em if your a true RAIDERS fan…. cuz once he goes who will take over and best believe they will never come close to this old mans charisma…. and that aint too far from now… Im not wishing death upon him and never have cuz that aint cool in my book but he is very old and you can tell he is degrading physically, as evident today… I admire that old decreped man cuz you know when a man is either LOVED or HATED (nothing in between)he is well respected…
January 18th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
2.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
– Remember the front office hire Davis promised a couple of years back following the Kiffin overhead projector conference?
Turns out the guy has been here and gone.
“One worked here about eight months and you people didn’t even know he was working here,” Davis said. “He was a name, a very prominent name in professional football. He worked in our talent department, he worked in our pro personnel department.”
The assumption is Davis is talking about Rich Snead
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OMFG. It just gets more embarrassing. LOL.
Anyhow, Jerry, I think he wanted Madden when he said that, and thought he could get him.
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Yeah it can be more embarrassing. He could be a guy that sits around all day every day and complains about how un-great another man is. Being a sad un-happy boy, posting to anyone whom will listen, slinging anti greatness propaganda and tryin to smear the greatness that is Al Davis.
So you tell me mr whats more embarrassing?
January 18th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
I don’t love or hate Al, so you’re wrong right there. I feel sorry for him, that’s for sure. He looks like he’s in horrible health.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
# The Real D-Rac Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
So you tell me mr whats more embarrassing?
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The “big addition” Al once boasted about turning out to be Rick Snead. And by a long shot.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Flap flap flap, peck, peck, peck… baok, boak, boak…
MR you are awesome man.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
That’s the crazy thing (and what the ignorant national people can’t grasp)…he looks horrible, but you can tell his mind is still extra sharp.
Getting names mixed up is funny, but I figure once you hit 70+ you’ve heard 600 different name combos, you’re gonna get some twisted.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:37 pm
34.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
# The Real D-Rac Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
So you tell me mr whats more embarrassing?
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The “big addition” Al once boasted about turning out to be Rick Snead. And by a long shot.
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Does this make you sad mr, are you hurt it may have been Rich Snead?
January 18th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Hue Jackson is sharp. And we need him. Al may be sharp in some regards but he doesn’t get today’s game like Hue, so hopefully he steps aside and lets Hue do his job.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
I don’t even know who Rich Snead is. So if this is the guy Al was talking about all of that time, I would say Al’s not “sharp” at all.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
In my opinion, Coach Hue deserved much more of the spotlight and Coach Cable didn’t deserve all his personal stuff thrown out in the air like that. I always thought he did his best to win. And he was a badass (Cable KO’s Shannon last year, Seymour KO’s Big Ben this year….lead by example!). The media often says that Al Davis isn’t open with them. That was as candid as an owner will ever get. Everything was on the table. Just win baby! Seriously though, lets get a makeup girl or a nurse in there. What was up with that bloody bandage?? It wasn’t even Silver and Black, like the ones Neil Smith used to wear but ‘Raiderized’.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
39.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 11:39 pm
I don’t even know who Rich Snead is. So if this is the guy Al was talking about all of that time, I would say Al’s not “sharp” at all.
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BINGO, that showes what you DO NOT know.
Leme guess, you think only the video game god knows football enough to help ol Al out? nobody else in the football world has what it takes to tell ol Al how to do things?
January 18th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Rich Snead might be a smart football guy, Raccoon. But is he really worth being billed as “something big”? Al said it as if he was resurrecting Vince Lombardi and hiring him as personnel director. I have never heard of Rich Snead. Maybe he is good. But he’s nothing “big”. So either Al is nuts, or he really wanted someone else all along and couldn’t get him. Both are likely scenarios.
January 18th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
42.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 11:47 pm
Rich Snead might be a smart football guy, Raccoon. But is he really worth being billed as “something big”? Al said it as if he was resurrecting Vince Lombardi and hiring him as personnel director. I have never heard of Rich Snead. Maybe he is good. But he’s nothing “big”. So either Al is nuts, or he really wanted someone else all along and couldn’t get him. Both are likely scenarios.
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The Raiders had one of the best years in a very long time (aquiring talent wise) draft, and fa’s. very one loved the way they signed there own fa’s first, then went out a plucked fa’s that filled a need, and drafted starters, and solid depth.
You of all people, I would think would want to give the credit to anyone but Mr. Al Davis, yet you down play the roll, and skill of Rich Snead?
January 18th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
Cash Cow on Webkinz is the bomb!
January 18th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
“What Tom Cable is as a football coach is an exceptional line coach.’’
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LOL! Burn!! Basically called it like most of us saw it. Cable is a line coach who is very mediocre at calling timeouts and decent enough at being the “ra ra!” male cheerleader.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:00 am
The Real D-Rac Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
The Raiders had one of the best years in a very long time
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Something must have been wrong. Al immediately canned the coach.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:07 am
The News,
It would be interesting to pull up Al’s transcript of when he hired Cable. Of course all owners talk up their new hires, but I’ll bet you Al was giving some specific opinions on Cable that flat out contradict what he says today. Maybe Al should listen to his haters, like me. We can save him 3 years.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:11 am
Yeah somthing very wrong. He was a women beater.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:15 am
I bet you’d stick your head in fire if I told ya you could see He!!. Meanwhile, you’re too stupid to realize you got a demon stickin’ out your aZZ singing, “Holy Miss Moley,
Al is kinda like Captin Spaulding.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:25 am
Watching The House Of 1000 Corpeses
January 19th, 2011 at 12:25 am
Ray Ratto is a douche.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:26 am
51.Raider75 Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:25 am
Ray Ratto is a douche.
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Yep, and mr loves him.
Prob because they are both from Tracy.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:28 am
# The Real D-Rac Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:11 am
Yeah somthing very wrong. He was a women beater.
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Al and al of us knew he was that when the season began..
so why was it suddenly a problem now?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:29 am
# The Real D-Rac Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:25 am
Watching The House Of 1000 Corpeses
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Rob Zombie, right?
Great Movie!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:32 am
Some people re so dumb they can’t understnd plain english or they’re such haters that common sense makes no sense.
If Mr Davis didn’t understand today’s so-called modern game he would never challenge Hue Jackson to go to the blackboard and explain to him how he would implement his offense. How the protection would work. And then Hue jackson would never refer to Mr Davis as coach and then tell us all if there was something he didn’t understand he knew he could go to Mr Davis and get it……….if that’s not understanding todays game then them maybe YOU need help with comprehension.
there isn’t anything going on in todays NFL that Mr Davis doesn’t understand or anything that Hue jackson can come up with that he already hasn’t endorsed. They both made taht abundantly clear. Hue was hired for his skills on offense to get it in the endzone…………..period Cable was let go primarily because he didn’t possess that ability……………period
January 19th, 2011 at 12:40 am
54.La Milicia Negra Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:29 am
# The Real D-Rac Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:25 am
Watching The House Of 1000 Corpeses
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Rob Zombie, right?
Great Movie!
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Yes, one of the sickest ever made. Devils Rejects was part two, not as sick.
” What you don’t like Clowns? Why? Don’t we make ya laugh? Aren’t we fu(kin’ funny?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:41 am
Mr Davis just echoed what I’ve been saying about Mike Bush all year long. To leave that guy on the bench especially in the second half is very very stupid. It was criminal to give him 2or 3 touches in some games. You’re noit tyring to win in my estimation. I told you all how highly he thought of Mike Bush all year long. I know what he likes and players like Mike Nush are his cup of tea…………period
January 19th, 2011 at 12:43 am
yeah, I actually liked Devils rejects better, not becasue it was less sick, but because the craftsmanship was better executed..
January 19th, 2011 at 12:47 am
Grandpa Al takes a lickin’ and someone in the nursing home keeps patchin’ him up or is it the owners and the NFL players ie..the press conference dealing with Fatboy Cable. A band-aid on the forehead? Give it up Grandpa! Its not 1980 anymore, know when to fold’em! Take a course on not to Hold’em! Its not your money all the time! Leave respected not rejected! Your time has passed, Grandpa! Judging by the nursing home accident/beat down by Cable. The Raiders are your baby, but the time has come to fade to black and exit now.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:51 am
58.La Milicia Negra Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:43 am
yeah, I actually liked Devils rejects better, not becasue it was less sick, but because the craftsmanship was better executed..
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Yeah, DR’s was made for everyday movie goers. 1000 corpeses was made for the sick folks out there…
An I am watchin git for the 3rd time.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Night LMN, MR, Priest, NATION!
Long live Al Davis!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:59 am
Jer,
When are we getting the after party quotes where he gathers all of you reporters around and drops nuggets?
January 19th, 2011 at 1:04 am
yeah Night all…
My conference call seem pretty much over now, hate to talk business after only 2-3 hours sleep
January 19th, 2011 at 2:52 am
What a friggin circus.
When you cut through all the b+llsh!t it all comes down to the usual Al pattern of the last 7-8 years:
Al hired Jackson a year ago and wanted him as head coach THEN but felt like he didn’t know enough about Hue and so he delayed for a year.
None of it had anything to with Cable’s girlfriend, Randy Hanson, global warming, sun spots, or anything other than an impatient Al wanting to win a Superbowl again before he dies and throwing coaches through the window in his impatience.
When Al said that having girls in your room “goes against the Raider way” I damn near collapsed on the floor laughing
I expect Snake Stabler thought it was pretty funny as well.
That’s all this is.
Period.
What the hell Al, it’s you’re team as you’ve told us, you can fire who you like.
Don’t unpack your suitcase Hue.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:00 am
Morning nation. BSPN reporting Pagano promoted to D coordinator in baltimore Who’s next option??? Loved the news conference BTW…what is Al like 135 yrs old now?
January 19th, 2011 at 5:18 am
I hope Al never dies. Without him the Raiders are just another middling NFL team. Who else in the league could manage to make a perrenial bottom feeder so interesting?
January 19th, 2011 at 5:27 am
“What Tom Cable is as a football coach is an exceptional line coach.’’
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Well if he is “exceptional” we need to replace that exceptionalness because our O-line stomped on our division last year.
I always feel good after an Al Davis presser. He is quite the spin-master.
Sounds like Cable was fired for off the field stuff more so, which makes a lot more sense.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Good Morning Nation! Morning crew…you all know who you are!
Someone mentioned it here last night…I hope Huey was taking notes!
January 19th, 2011 at 6:00 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. HWNRDR,JFB.HUE WAS PROBABLY LOOKING 4 A SIDE OR BACK DOOR 2 SLIP OUT OF..POOR GUY WAS WANDERING IF THIS IS WHAT IS WAITING 4 ME IN A YEAR OR 2.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:00 am
I think Hue Jackson is the first real coach we have had since Gruden.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:05 am
You have to love how the pro-Davis sycophants try to spin this. As if mocking Gallery, Lechler and Gradkowski about not being here next year is something they (the players) should be concerned about. I don’t know what team you’ve been watching for the past 25 years but for a brief interlude with Gruden (who, of course, was shipped out of town and advised Sean Payton to avoid Oakland at all costs) this team has been mediocre to awful.
Leaving the Raiders isn’t a punishment or something they should be ashamed of — it’s a time of celebration and renewal. Being free of Davis and the Oakland Raiders is a blessing, not a curse.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves while Davis continues running this franchise into the ground. Puppet Jackson will suffer the same fate in two years and you’ll all be saying the same nonsense about Hue that you were saying about Tom. What coach worth a crap would want to put up with this clown show?
January 19th, 2011 at 6:08 am
Hue gets the benefit of the doubt for at least a year, and if he wins than no one will care.
But if he loses, he is going to be considered a major puppet with all this Coach Davis stuff.
Don’t ever remember Gruden calling him coach. Did Jon respect Al’s knowledge of football? Of course, everyone in league circles does.
But why call him coach PUBLICLY for any other reason other than to stroke Al’s ego?
January 19th, 2011 at 6:13 am
Dirt Lot…for all we know, Hue probably did slip out the back door…all eye’s were on Davis…LOL
Hue stroked his ego but wasn’t Bugle worse by putting his arm around him and saying “I love this guy” ?
January 19th, 2011 at 6:14 am
Tom Cable is a good fit with the Seattle Seahawks.
They wanted a ZBS O-Line Coach and Cabes is one of the best in the business. He finished 8-8 as HC, which was better than the 7-9 Seahacks … including 6-0 in the division and a 30 point thumping of Carroll’s squad in Week 8!
Cable also gets the title of Asst HC and he’ll get to work with Russell Okung, who he wanted to draft. He’ll get to work under Pete Carroll, one of greatest college football HC’s EVER … so that should help TC if he ever tries to get another HC gig in the college ranks. He also stays on the West Coast (close to home)
January 19th, 2011 at 6:16 am
Of our potential FA’s, Al didn’t say much about Nnamdi or Gallery, but did talk up Miller and Bush, and said Bruce showed the ability to play QB in the NFL, but is too fragile (I agree with Al).
Wonder if he tipped his hand a little. Miller and Bush are staying, Nnamdi and Bob maybe not, and Bruce will be tendered again and traded for whatever he can (probably the Kirk Morrison deal, we will give you Gradkowski to move up 10 spots in the 6th round type thing).
January 19th, 2011 at 6:18 am
I’m willing to bet that Robert Gallery, Samson Satele, Cooper Carlisle, Langston Walker, Mario Henderson & Daniel Loper would LOVE to play for Tom Cable again in Seattle … and I’m sure at least 2 of these guys will
January 19th, 2011 at 6:20 am
But why call him coach PUBLICLY for any other reason other than to stroke Al’s ego?
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I think Jackson is going to try and have it both ways. On one hand, be the obliging Joe “I love this man” Bugel to the owner and on the other be the fiery ass-kicker in the Chucky mold to the players.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:21 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 6:18 am
I’m willing to bet that Robert Gallery, Samson Satele, Cooper Carlisle, Langston Walker, Mario Henderson & Daniel Loper would LOVE to play for Tom Cable again in Seattle … and I’m sure at least 2 of these guys will
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Most likely one I think is Gallery. It’s not an exaggeration to say Cable saved his career. Walker and Henderson could be headed to Seattle…they need a right tackle.
Carlisle is under contract, although now that his #1 supporter is gone, I’m not sure how long he’s going to stay.
I don’t see Satele following Cable to Seattle…remember, Cable benched him at the beginning of the year for a rookie who’d never played center.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Reading the tea leaves:
Al is going to put the full court press on Miller and Bush to re-sign them.
Gallery isn’t gone for sure, but I don’t think Al is going to make his best effort to keep him.
Same goes for Nnamdi. If he wants to come back at a reasonable rate, I’m sure Davis will pay him. Otherwise he’s gone too.
I think Gradkowski is offered a deal to come back, but this time with the clear understanding that he’s the backup only.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:24 am
I will say Hue is much “sharper” in public than any of our previous coaches.
He talks with an energy that seemed amazing yesterday compared to who he was sitting next to.
Now if we could just stop talking about DHB at press conferences until he starts producing more than 1 TD a year, I could take things a little more seriously.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:25 am
I don’t see Satele following Cable to Seattle…remember, Cable benched him at the beginning of the year for a rookie who’d never played center.
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Cable benched Mike Huff for Hiram Eugene in the past too, but Huff24 is a HUGE TC supporter right now today, same thing with Michael Bush
players usually get over it, especially if they earn those starting jobs back!
January 19th, 2011 at 6:26 am
Now if we could just stop talking about DHB at press conferences until he starts producing more than 1 TD a year, I could take things a little more seriously.
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Co-sign.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:26 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 6:25 am
I don’t see Satele following Cable to Seattle…remember, Cable benched him at the beginning of the year for a rookie who’d never played center.
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Cable benched Mike Huff for Hiram Eugene in the past too, but Huff24 is a HUGE TC supporter right now today, same thing with Michael Bush
players usually get over it, especially if they earn those starting jobs back!
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That’s true enough, RRS. And Seattle does desperately need an upgrade at center right now. Chris Spencer is TERRIBLE.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:27 am
NEWSFLASH:
Hue likes/preferred Gradkowski! How quick people forget. Al apparently likes Gradkowski too (see yesterday).
My bet is when Gradkowski gets well (again) Campbell will have a leash. Maybe not as short as his 2010 dog collar but a leash nonetheless.
Of course UPGRADING the qb is what we really need. That or real competition with maybe a VY in camp? VY knows one more f’up and hes ex-NFL. These guys are dumb but they also know its their only real money train.
Personally I’d like to see VY here -knowing- OAK is is last chance.
Bet you see a different (and more mature) player.
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# Raider75 Says:
January 18th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Hue said he got over 20 texts from players excited about him getting the job.
I bet Gallery, Lechler, and Gradkowski were 3 that declined.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Now if we could just stop talking about DHB at press conferences until he starts producing more than 1 TD a year, I could take things a little more seriously.
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Exactly. I don’t get where all these guys are coming from that say Hue Jax is going to bring in Vincent Jackson, Chad Johnson and trade for Dez Bryant!
DHB = 16 game starter
Ford & Murphy on the other side.
Chaz (if healthy) they think is still a #1 WR too!
the QB/WR situation doesn’t change unless you’re talking about replacements for Gradkowski, Boller, Higgins & Nmiller! BACK UPS! DEPTH!
January 19th, 2011 at 6:29 am
I gotta say, the old man can still undercut people like nobody’s business. I especially liked his swipe at Lechler….basically “You’re very well paid, STFU and kick the damn ball”
January 19th, 2011 at 6:29 am
I think Gradkowski is offered a deal to come back, but this time with the clear understanding that he’s the backup only.
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I’m watching Bruce this offseason, and he seems to be trying to work some crazy media career angle.
If he is willing to toe the company line AS THE BACKUP and spin things off well on TV like he does, than I would bring him back. He could really also help a rookie QB draftee understand the business and all that, as Soup probably wouldn’t provide as much, basically because he should be working on winning and actually playing.
The thing is, Charlie Frye could probably do all that, at a slightly cheaper pay grade, and not be as big as potential distraction.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
JFB,
True enough and Jerry has said Frye has earned himself a lot of goodwill in the organization (read: from Al) the past couple seasons. He’s basically the perfect 3rd string QB.
Very interested to see what happens with the #2 spot.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:32 am
“THESE GUY’S ARE DUMB BUT THEY ALSO KNOW ITS THERE ONLY REAL MONY TRAIN” JAMARCUSS BEING THE EXCEPTION 2 THAT RULE I GUESS.GOOD MORNING TUCKRULE…
January 19th, 2011 at 6:33 am
But why call him coach PUBLICLY for any other reason other than to stroke Al’s ego?
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One of the reasons Gruden was able to coach the team his way was that he had the balls and the accumen to battle Al Davis on the chalkboard.
The comparisons to Gruden are obvious, and to me thats a good thing
January 19th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Gotta feel bad for Al. His mind is still there, beyond the usual old person lapses with names and stuff, but his body is failing him at a horrible rate. That has to be tough for a guy with his ego.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:35 am
JFB,
Grads, Frye, Boller & Losman have all been praised in Oakland for being film room junkies and gym rats and likened to having another coach out on the field …
which brings me to my next point, if you can’t play *** COACH! (no offense OAKlifer)
Hue Jackson & Tom Cable both know all about that
January 19th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Trade Sanjay Lal for…ok, got me scratching my head at the moment! Was he really better than James Lofton? I mean really?
January 19th, 2011 at 6:36 am
which brings me to my next point, if you can’t play *** COACH!
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Danny Southwick, baby!
January 19th, 2011 at 6:37 am
@RRS
Gallery could leave for Cable. Carlisle is a pure ZBS guy, he needs to leave by any means necessary. The rest will stay. Not sure if thats good for us though LOL…our O Line still needs a makeover
January 19th, 2011 at 6:37 am
Al Davis went TMZ on us yesterday.
There was no need to go as far as he did for as long as he did.
That chick could just be a crazy women and lying. On one hand she is trying to sue the team, on another hand she is flying into town on road games to serve up Cabes?
And Al seemed to side with her on things.
Come on Al, your bigger than that!!!!
January 19th, 2011 at 6:37 am
If Ochocinco was telling the truth when he called HueJax the best recievers coach he ever had (and I have no reason to doubt him), then I have to think Jackson will make replacing Lal a first order of business. Watching that incompetent, unqualified buffoon attempting to mold young receivers had to be painful for Hue.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:37 am
beyond the usual old person lapses with names and stuff
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PA,
Hue Jackson called your defensive rookie of the year and pro bowl MLB stud “Ronaldo”
January 19th, 2011 at 6:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 6:37 am
beyond the usual old person lapses with names and stuff
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PA,
Hue Jackson called your defensive rookie of the year and pro bowl MLB stud “Ronaldo”
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LMAO. Really? That’s awesome. Maybe RoMac is an international soccer star in his spare time…
January 19th, 2011 at 6:40 am
I like Grads. I really do. But clamoring for playing time during games isn’t what a backup QB should be doing. A true backup QB waits his turn, then when it comes, outperforms the starter. That didn’t happen for him this year. He needs to fall back.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:43 am
I like Grads. I really do. But clamoring for playing time during games isn’t what a backup QB should be doing. A true backup QB waits his turn, then when it comes, outperforms the starter. That didn’t happen for him this year. He needs to fall back.
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his best friend and mentor was Jeff Garcia!
what do you expect?
January 19th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Al Davis is gonna have a stroke if both Alex Smith & David Carr are available (UFA’s) this offseason across the bay
January 19th, 2011 at 6:45 am
@RRS
True. Now if he only had Garcia’s talent….
For real tho, players don’t like that kinda ish.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:47 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Al Davis is gonna have a stroke if both Alex Smith & David Carr are available (UFA’s) this offseason across the bay
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Matt Leinart will be a FA and Vince Young will almost certainly be cut. Al will be beside himself.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:48 am
Good morning all.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Now if he only had Garcia’s talent….
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no kidding!
Bruce Gradkowski is 28 years old, the same age Jeff Garcia joined the 49ers and went to 3 staight Pro Bowls
January 19th, 2011 at 6:50 am
Vince Young
Matt Leinart
David Carr
Alex Smith
Bruce Gradkowski
Pick one
January 19th, 2011 at 6:50 am
Al does not not look well at all.Hue better have a winning first season.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Jon,
Hue Jackson has ties to Joey Harrington, Byron Leftwich & Patrick Ramsey. three former 1st rounders that Al Davis has never gotten his hands on!
plus theres the former Heisman trophy winner Troy Smith
should Raider Nation be concerned ???
January 19th, 2011 at 6:52 am
That’s like Sophie’s choice JONTRAIN.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Im glad we dont have a first round pick to pee away on Kim Newton…
January 19th, 2011 at 6:54 am
Neilb Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 6:52 am
That’s like Sophie’s choice JONTRAIN.
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Indeed
January 19th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Bcz24….
I’m sure our secret GM will get us a first round pick some how.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:55 am
I always liked Grads – but his time to depart has come. I truly hope that Hue can continue to bring the fire and still learn from the master (the “coach”) as the Nation continues to see progress with the guys on the field. Cable was never going to stay in Oakland long – he’s lucky he got a head coaching paycheck at all, this past year! Gallery – see ya; Satele, Carlisle – go learn another trade, like brick masonry; Bush, Lechler – hope to see you back; Al – please have someone clean you up before public appearances … and PLEASE PLEASE don’t show off those “ET” hands anymore – they make you look like an alien!
January 19th, 2011 at 6:56 am
Who knows, Al may package Nnamdi and (pick one) to get back into the first round…who knows, get back our original 17th pick (even though I would hate for him to go to NE)…
January 19th, 2011 at 6:57 am
To me, the safe pick is Grads.
If you want upside, take VY
Pretty sure we all know what Al would do…
Also, I hope everybody noticed that Al qualified his endorsement of JC, when he said that JC is our QB “right now”.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:57 am
My first thought on seeing coach Al last night was has he had a stroke.
January 19th, 2011 at 6:57 am
THING IS NEILB,WE WILL BE HERE 20 YRS FROM NOW SAY’N ” MAN,AL SURE LOOK’S BAD” GOOD DAY 2 U BY THE WAY..
January 19th, 2011 at 6:58 am
I think Nnamdi is gone, so we have to start preparing for life without him. Let’s see how good of a trade we can negotiate, so we can move back into the first round of this year’s draft.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:00 am
Good morning Dirt-lot….
I actually felt sorry for Al.His mind was/is still sharp but he looked really ill.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Cant trade Nnamdi. He is an unrestricted free agent. Only way we can trade him is if we resign him first.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Al is always up for a good fight. Cable brought him one. I guess he thought he could “punk” the old man; but I think it galvanized him more than anything. Cable lost – now, he’s out!
January 19th, 2011 at 7:03 am
I’m sure our secret GM will get us a first round pick some how.
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We fired the ’secret GM’ already
January 19th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Ummm. we can’t trade Nnamdi. He’s gone. Adios. I will miss him. But he wasn’t worth 17 mil for one more season
Nnamdi was due the average of the top 5 paid QBs in the league. With Brady and Manning in line for raises???
Ouch.
Good Luck Nnamdi
January 19th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Jer Mac was the secret GM.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:05 am
121.bcz24 Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Cant trade Nnamdi. He is an unrestricted free agent. Only way we can trade him is if we resign him first.
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Oh, I think a sign-and-trade is definitely going to happen. Al has really upped his value, and that may well bode well for us in the market. The only caveat in this whole thing is the screwed-up relations between players and owners – everything’s going to hell, first!
January 19th, 2011 at 7:07 am
No one will pay Nnamdi 17m.No one.Not even Snyder.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:09 am
If Snyder paid $100 million for Haynesworth, I think he would CERTAINLY pick up 17 large for an All-Pro, lockdown corner!
January 19th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Anyone got any info on the next D coach?
January 19th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Oh, I think a sign-and-trade is definitely going to happen. Al has really upped his value, and that may well bode well for us in the market. The only caveat in this whole thing is the screwed-up relations between players and owners – everything’s going to hell, first!
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I doubt it, If they spend the time and money to convince Nnamdi to sign a contract they arent just going to trade him away.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Why is everyone so eager to dump Grads? Brought instant credibility to an otherwise hapless offense both times he was inserted the last two seasons.
I get the injury factor and that we can’t really count on him as our only option because of that, but he’s been our best QB since Gannon. The games we won in the second half of the season were due to our rushing attack, defense, special teams and guys like Reece and McFadden taking short passes a long way. Campbell was largely along for the ride in most victories. Did a decent job of scrambling, but wasn’t completing tough passes 20, 30, 40 yards down field.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Do you not think Snyder learnt his lesson with Haynesworth?
January 19th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Anyone got any info on the next D coach?
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Pagano was the only name I was hearing, but he signed to be Baltimores DC. Waufle might get a promotion.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:14 am
The way the D-line played I kinda hope Waufle stays where he is.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Chris In NY Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Why is everyone so eager to dump Grads? Brought instant credibility to an otherwise hapless offense both times he was inserted the last two seasons.
I get the injury factor and that we can’t really count on him as our only option because of that, but he’s been our best QB since Gannon. The games we won in the second half of the season were due to our rushing attack, defense, special teams and guys like Reece and McFadden taking short passes a long way. Campbell was largely along for the ride in most victories. Did a decent job of scrambling, but wasn’t completing tough passes 20, 30, 40 yards down field.Chris In NY Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 7:10 am
Why is everyone so eager to dump Grads? Brought instant credibility to an otherwise hapless offense both times he was inserted the last two seasons.
I get the injury factor and that we can’t really count on him as our only option because of that, but he’s been our best QB since Gannon. The games we won in the second half of the season were due to our rushing attack, defense, special teams and guys like Reece and McFadden taking short passes a long way. Campbell was largely along for the ride in most victories. Did a decent job of scrambling, but wasn’t completing tough passes 20, 30, 40 yards down field.
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This year, when healthy, Grads, IMO, was the same as Campbell. I came in this year as a big Grads supporter, but he really threw some ill advised passes this year.
Whereas Campbell would hold onto the ball (cuz face it its not like our WR’s were getting open), and live to fight another down.
They are very different QB’s but their results this year were similar, with a slight edge to JC. The only solution is to get somebody better than either of them. Until then, I’m OK with Campbell. I hate silly INT’s.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:18 am
If Waufle gets the promotion, hopefully he can get the most out of the entire defense like he did out of the line!
January 19th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Checked on Profootball talk.Nothing ’bout a D coach,they’re still talking about Al.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:20 am
Sorry……Coach Al.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:20 am
The way the D-line played I kinda hope Waufle stays where he is.
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I was going to say the same thing Hwnrdr said… damn work getting in my way! LOL.
Waufle is just a guess, I still like Keith Butler to take over at DC, but we wont even be able to interview him until the Steelers are done (3 weeks max)
January 19th, 2011 at 7:21 am
This years Qb ratings:
JC – 84.5
BG – 66.3
January 19th, 2011 at 7:22 am
If the presser was any indication, it seems that Al was dropping heavy hints to Hue that Waufle should get promoted to D-coordinator (that’s how I read it, anyway).
January 19th, 2011 at 7:23 am
Jeremy Bates could be the next OC too, I think Saunders was the guy, but with the news of Bates being let go, they may have taken a step back, to try and interview this guy. They can still bring in Saunders as an offensive consultant, or he could replace Lal as WR coach with maybe an Assistant HC title. Just conjecture on my part.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:23 am
New post by Jer.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:24 am
I like Mike Trgovac (from Green Bay) for a shot at DC, but he has really close ties to John Fox.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:26 am
According to wikipedia, Keith Butler is set to take over the DC job when Dick Lebeau retires…
January 19th, 2011 at 7:26 am
140.JONTRAIN Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 7:21 am
This years Qb ratings:
JC – 84.5
BG – 66.3
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What, no rating for Southwick?
January 19th, 2011 at 7:29 am
I’ll tell you guys something that really concerns me that everyone is laughing about now.
That’s the Kim Newton mistake.
If Al just said it once, ok – it’s a slip of the tongue.
But twice ?
I guess Al could have mis-spoke twice, but if he didn’t and thinks the name is actually Kim – well then, we better hope the ‘mystery’ GM is going to be back again for the upcoming draft.
If Al can’t get Cam Newton’s name right, then he’s been totally oblivious to the college game and prospects, and the thought of him being in charge of a draft is pretty scarey.
January 19th, 2011 at 7:37 am
147.RAIDERMAN99 Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 7:29 am
I’ll tell you guys something that really concerns me that everyone is laughing about now.
That’s the Kim Newton mistake.
If Al just said it once, ok – it’s a slip of the tongue.
But twice ?
I guess Al could have mis-spoke twice, but if he didn’t and thinks the name is actually Kim – well then, we better hope the ‘mystery’ GM is going to be back again for the upcoming draft.
If Al can’t get Cam Newton’s name right, then he’s been totally oblivious to the college game and prospects, and the thought of him being in charge of a draft is pretty scarey.
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If that’s the only mistake Al made, I wouldn’t worry too much. The man does very well for 81! Mistakes are made – but that certainly wasn’t the worst one. Several years ago, when Spurrier was coaching the Redskins, a reporter asked him about the progress of a player on the team who had been cut several days before. Spurrier said, “Yeah, that guy – he’s pretty good; he’s been working really hard and doing well” … he had no clue about one of HIS OWN PLAYERS! Don’t worry about Al – and don’t worry about Kim Newton – he’ll never be in the Sliver and Black, anyway!
January 19th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
so much love for Cable…
i have no explanation…