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Sorting through it all

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, January 18th, 2011 at 4:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.

An eventful hiring day for coach Hue Jackson, who took a back seat to owner Al Davis at Tuesday’s press conference introducing him as the head coach of the Raiders.

I’ll have much more later, but a few quick points.

– It was apparent Jackson was being looked at as the head coach when he was hired a year ago for offensive coordinator.

– The $120,000 in fines levied against Tom Cable were part of a fallout of the investigations into the alleged attack on Randy Hanson and the ESPN report charging domestic abuse. Davis said Cable would have been out even if the Raiders had made the playoffs.

(Cable has been hired by the Seattle Seahawks).

– While not addressing the collective bargaining agreement directly, Davis conceded if teams that don’t have large reveues aren’t protected, it could be difficult to compete in terms of paying players.

– Al Saunders has yet to be officially hired as offensive coordinator. Jackson conceded he’s a candidate but the Raiders are still looking.

– Davis hopes Nnamdi Asomugha can be re-signed, but said that for the $17 million he would have been due this season, they could sign two or three players. Translation _ they were going to cut him even if the contract didn’t void automatically.

– Three prior candidates who Davis did not name were considered along with Jackson and were talked with on the phone. They didn’t get very far.

– Davis reiterated his belief in Jason Campbell, and also said he played no role in whether or not Campbell played.

– Davis was no fan of Cable’s zone blocking scheme. Jackson said he got along fine with Cable and there was no discord.

Davis, however, said of Jackson’s offensive philosophy, “He met some opposition from time to time.”

– Coaches you can count on seeing next year were in attendance. Defensive line coach Mike Waufle may be a defensive coordinator candidate (but expect him to remain with the defensive line). Secondary coach Kevin Ross and defensive backs coach Lionel Washington were in attendance.

More to come later . . .

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95 Responses to “Sorting through it all”

  1. The Real D-Rac Says:

    Al Davis is a living Football GOD!

    Jerr is the Man!

    RAIDER on Mr. Davis, RAIDER on!

    It is a GREAT day to be a RAIDER fan!

    Just Win Baby!

    #1

  2. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    waklaboo Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    La Milicia Negra Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    # waklaboo Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Why do people trash Al Davis yet still want to be Raiders a fan? Doesn’t make sense. You want things your way, buy your own team.
    _________________________________________________________

    because Al is not Raiders, we are Raiders fans, not Al-fans…

    a j3w might love his ford, but that does not mean he likes the antisemitic views Henry Ford had, now does that make sense to you??
    ————————————-
    Nope. If he didn’t like the maker, why would he support him by buying his product? The more it doesn’t make sense. It becomes hypocritical
    _______________________________________________________

    because he likes the car, thats why… product and maker isnt the same thing… just like the raiders are the team we love, and Al is pathetic in the view of some…

    if your dad is an 1diot, but you are a nice guy, shouldnt people still be friends with you? (not that Im saying he or you are any of these things)

  3. oo Says:

    Good old Al

  4. PurpleDrank81 Says:

    Cable signed with the Seahawks as Assistant Headcoach/O-Line Coach

  5. RaiderDuck Says:

    Any guesses as to the “three prior candidates?”

    I’m thinking Kevin Gilbride, Winston Moss and Jim Fassel. YMMV.

  6. raidertay Says:

    Basically Al said he decided to fire Cable once the Raiders began being named in Cable’s domestice violence lawsuits.

  7. raidertay Says:

    Al flat out said “I did the draft”….if thats the case then the old man deserves some credit.

  8. Carl Weathers Says:

    Anyone have a link to watch it yet?

  9. bcz24 Says:

    Pagano is out for DC. Baltimore just promoted him to be there own DC.

  10. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    This sucks!
    Where’s youtube when you need it?

  11. The Real D-Rac Says:

    If all this is true about cable, and I am sure most of it is, how/why would the Seachickens hire him?

  12. Ottomatic Says:

    Stoked! If it had to be cable or jackson, I;d do the same thing. Hopefully Jackson doesnt roundhouse an assisant halfway through the season.

  13. DKnight007 Says:

    Hue needs to hire a solid defensive coordinator that will be an upgrade to Marshall.

    Badly.

  14. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Jackson v. Cable. Jackson by TKO!!!

  15. La Milicia Negra Says:

    # raidertay Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    Al flat out said “I did the draft”….if thats the case then the old man deserves some credit.
    _______________________________________________________

    of course its not true, Al does the 1st round pick, but when we get kudos for our draft Al always says he did it, when the press calls it bad its always the Coaches…

    Thats how Al works, always has, he is a snake, we used to love him for it, but lately its pathetic..

  16. stubblebuzz Says:

    That stuff about punching Randy Hanson, the assistant coach, happened summer before last, with the other charges of abuse coming soon after. So Al kept Cable around for two full seasons after all this? And then cites it as a primary reason for firing him? Sounds fishy to me.

  17. M Lonetree Says:

    perhaps some of you did not have the oppotunity to watch the Raiders introduction of HueJack.

    HueJack is self-possessed and appears very real.

    Al appears on his last legs and very real.

    Many persons asked questions in the one and a half hour presser, the answers seemed to be honest from both participants…but whenever Kawakami asked anything Al would say “Who?” and then smirk…whenever JerryMc would ask something Al would respond “Jer…”

  18. flowbees Says:

    here is part of the presser. no al davis clips yet.

    http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/raidersvideo

  19. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    stubblebuzz Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    That stuff about punching Randy Hanson, the assistant coach, happened summer before last, with the other charges of abuse coming soon after. So Al kept Cable around for two full seasons after all this? And then cites it as a primary reason for firing him? Sounds fishy to me.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Sure does sound fishy-as usual.

  20. bcz24 Says:

    I was thinking the same. If all Als claims are true he looks like a moron for keeping Cable around for 2 more years. There is no excuse for it.

  21. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Anyone know the channel# for csn bay area on direct tv, I’m going to get a friend to dvr the replay @ 10:00..

    Thanks, in advance…

  22. J Hill Says:

    Good for Cable that he was able to get on with Seattle. Good fit with Pete Carroll. I wonder if he’ll be able to take Bob Gallery and Satele with him to Seattle?

  23. M Lonetree Says:

    LMN,

    did you pay attention? Al is litigious. Nothing proven or backed up, nothing to do. He said he had no definite info, like any prosecutor worth his salt, and then when he had it he could move.

  24. HairyBush Says:

    Al looks like he’s took a beating from Tom Cable before he was relieved of his head coaching duties.

  25. DKnight007 Says:

    The old man did NOT run that draft last year.

    If he did, he would have picked Bruce Campbell in the 1st Round and then Jacoby Ford in the 2nd Round!

  26. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Atta Boy Jerr,

    I hope you stuck around for the post-presser casual Al chat.

  27. J Hill Says:

    Davis hopes Nnamdi Asomugha can be re-signed, but said that for the $17 million he would have been due this season, they could sign two or three players. Translation _ they were going to cut him even if the contract didn’t void automatically.

    ——————————————————-

    Nnamdi better get a grip.

    10 million, take it or leave it.

  28. M Lonetree Says:

    Yes JHill, Barney Rubble found a job. When Betty and Wilma and Bam-Bam testify will that matter?
    Don’t ever bet against AD when his ducks are in a row.

  29. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
    Good for Cable that he was able to get on with Seattle. Good fit with Pete Carroll. I wonder if he’ll be able to take Bob Gallery and Satele with him to Seattle?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Damn, I wish you hadn’t said that.

  30. jugulator Says:

    698

  31. aig-raiders Says:

    Man I dont think Nnamdi aint coming back after Al Davis mocked his salary.

  32. J Hill Says:

    M,

    Huh?

    Cable has no chance in court against AD. None of my business.

    Still glad to see the guy get another job though. Didn’t have any ill will towards the guy, and I think he’ll do fine in Seattle.

    Nothing to do with his tenure in Oak or Al Davis’ charges against him.

  33. phatcable Says:

    al the way you look finish it of with bolts in your neck!

  34. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Didn’t really think Cable would be hired as an OL coach before Gallery was signed.
    That might just be tempting for Gallery to join him.

  35. M Lonetree Says:

    so, kids, none of y’all like when someone pisses down your back and tells you it’s rainin’.
    “Bleed Silver and Black forever” Curly signs with Carroll.
    Yeah, right.
    Never once did HueJack use the “I’ve always only wanted to be a Raider”. The man is real. He wants to be successful here, but unlike the grasping for anything Barney Rubble he didn’t make that idiotic proclamation.
    You is or you ain’t. Screw the words.

  36. J Hill Says:

    Oakland better find a way to get a new stadium built. Don’t think Al is going to stay in a place where he can’t make any $. I think there were clear hints at that today.

  37. crister Says:

    Man-o-man…Al Davis’s press conferences are beyond entertaining. Can he fire a coach very month? Please…

  38. M Lonetree Says:

    JHill,

    it isn’t AD’s charges, it is a league thing.

  39. J Hill Says:

    M,

    You didn’t expect Cable to look for work elsewhere after not being retained by the Raiders?

  40. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    Complete Hue Jackson presser: http://www.knbr.com/Podcasts/tabid/1065/Default.aspx

  41. M Lonetree Says:

    JHill,

    HCTC lied. Somebody handed me 2 million dollars for a year’s work I’d be in sayonara mode.

  42. bcz24 Says:

    Wonder if the hiring of Al Saunders has been delayed by todays firing of Jeremy Bates. I would love to bring this guy in to be our OC to work with Hue.

  43. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    Thanks not easilyimpressed, that’s impressive.

  44. phatcable Says:

    why was my 102 year old grandma at this press conference and why were they calling her al?

  45. bcz24 Says:

    No one has video of the complete presser yet huh…

  46. ottocrat Says:

    God, I just saw my first image from today’s PC. Al looks like he’s being held together with toothpicks and silly putty. There are plenty of vibrant, healthy people his age who look great. No, this guy’s all bitter and badness, and that’s manifesting itself physically in his old age. Father time is F’ing Al Davis in the A**, and he doesn’t even have the decency to give him a reach around.

  47. manassamauler Says:

    AD mocking ASOs 17 mil salary is a surprise. aso is AL’s guy a m2m corner and fits the style. maybe AD is conceding a little bit with the defense. first AD admits he was wrong about jabustus and now about paying ASO so much $$$. wow, we might see a 3-4 D this year. you never know.

  48. phatcable Says:

    I took Al to see the zookeeper and he said, “Thanks for bringing him back.”

  49. Kirk Says:

    What is it with the gaping wound on Al’s head?

    Did he fall?

    And Cable brought women on the road to sleep with him on the night before games? Sounds like a sweet gig to me!

  50. aig-raiders Says:

    Glad TC got a job and asst hC job too. He was good for the Raiders and stopped Al’s team from being the laughingstock of the league. Now on to Hue and Al Saunders. I think Hue will be a better HC than OC.

  51. aig-raiders Says:

    I guarantee you AD is mad at Aso for not playing through pain during the Miami and playoff stretch.

  52. Raiders for life Says:

    I think it was D Rac who posted the link for the presser at about 12:20
    Just wanted to say thanks.

  53. BoJacks Says:

    For those asking, The Raiders found out about another case brought against Cable in My/June 2010. That’s where Cable’s Roadtrips of Love came out.

    And to be somewhat fair, all Al said was that Cable brought family and friends with him on away games…but he phrased it as “brought friends to be with them”. In the post-Rex Ryan world, that will lead people to think menage-a-trois/orgies all the time. By lumping it in with Jamarcus, we start to think he was doing blow off of someone’s butt.

  54. antispy3 Says:

    Profootballtalk.com is airing approximately 45 seconds on Al lambastinf Cable & the lifestyle Al condemns.

  55. BoJacks Says:

    May/June 2010

  56. slvr n blk chef Says:

    Kirk Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    What is it with the gaping wound on Al’s head?
    ================================================
    Cable showed him what happened to Hanson

  57. r8eray Says:

    Skip to 1:26 mark…he’s got E.T. fingers???

  58. slvr n blk chef Says:

    Funny how Al makes himself look not so crazy at these pressers, Thats why they all feed out of his hand.
    Love the “were not losers anymore” shot he threw out after discussing all of Cables transgressions.

  59. slvr n blk chef Says:

    A bit senile but not crazy, year 2000?

  60. aig-raiders Says:

    since when did the Raiders cared about players having 3somes and group sex? The old raiders used to have a contest on how many one can have in a hottub. I believe it was Tooz that won that contest with 8 or something.

    Al should have fired Cable for the Randy Hanson incident. Al should have fired Kiffin prior to the 2008 season. He doesnt give a schytt about the fans and winning. He just didnt want to pay these guys while effin over the fans and winning.

    I used to like Al now I just shake my head in embarrassment.

  61. slvr n blk chef Says:

    Cant wait to watch the whole thing.

  62. aig-raiders Says:

    *players and coaches

  63. RaiderDebo Says:

    “I just didn’t think he could do it,” Davis said of Cable, “especially when I saw the contrast with (Jackson).”
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Any questions? A better, more qualified coach took over for that meathead. Better days are ahead.

  64. slvr n blk chef Says:

    Aig, I think the only problem that Al had was the woman he was bringing on these trips was the same woman prepared to sue the Raiders.

  65. slvr n blk chef Says:

    If Gallery wants to go so what!!
    I think Hue is going to go with a Power scheme.

  66. slvr n blk chef Says:

    Although 2nd in rushing with the z.b scheme needs to be seriously considered.

  67. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:33 pm

    Good for Cable that he was able to get on with Seattle. Good fit with Pete Carroll. I wonder if he’ll be able to take Bob Gallery and Satele with him to Seattle?
    ——————————–
    Good question.

  68. RaiderDebo Says:

    Slvr N Blk Chef Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
    If Gallery wants to go so what!!
    I think Hue is going to go with a Power scheme.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Agreed. The same goes for Aso. Why should that guy get paid so much? Just so we can say we have a top-3 corner in the league? Our defense has sucked ever since he’s been here. Some of the darkest days this organization has seen have coincided directly with the tenure of both these players. They can both take a hike as far as I’m concerned. Time for some new blood to go along with the new coaching staff.

  69. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Oakland better find a way to get a new stadium built. Don’t think Al is going to stay in a place where he can’t make any $. I think there were clear hints at that today.
    ——————————————
    What options does he have? Either sell the team, or build your own stadium.

    No civic entity is building Davis a stadium, period.

  70. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    Kawakami on KNBR just sounds bitter.

  71. KoolKell Says:

    A litigious, classless weird looking 81yr old. Who would possibly go into negotiations with Davis about a Stadium?

  72. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # waklaboo Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Why do people trash Al Davis yet still want to be Raiders a fan? Doesn’t make sense. You want things your way, buy your own team.

    ……………

    Some of us are fans of former Raider players and coaches that Al has clashed with, unnecessarily, in our view. Just as Al can’t be blamed for poor tackling, receivers not catching the ball, etc., Al also wasn’t down there on the field throwing game winning passes to Belitnikoff, gashing through a famed Redskins defense in Super Bowl 18, or putting together a game plan with Rich Gannon and Tim Brown that would catch our opponents, expecting nothing but the deep ball, by surprise and resulting in our first 12 win season in a decade. All Al did was sign the checks. He didn’t make those great moments, just as it’s not his fault Jano muffed that field goal against Arizona. So, we’re bashing Al because he did some Raider greats wrong. We’re bashing Al…because we’re Raider fans. And if you don’t understand that, then you’re the problem.

  73. noteasilyimpressed Says:

    Long live Mr. Al Davis and the Silver & Black!!!!!

  74. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    CREEPY ALERT!

    aig-raiders Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    since when did the Raiders cared about players having 3somes and group sex? The old raiders used to have a contest on how many one can have in a hottub. I believe it was Tooz that won that contest with 8 or something.

  75. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Think AIG’s been watching a little too much:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_CsZVbdVkI

  76. BoJacks Says:

    Well said MaddenRaider

    That ‘love it or leave it’ notion is played

  77. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Did Al ever explain what happened to his head?

  78. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Gruden’s tenure here will always be in the Raiders history books…love it or leave it.

    Gannon’s play will always be in the Raiders history books….love it or leave it.

    Marcus Allen’s play will always be in the Raiders history books…love it or leave it.

  79. phatcable Says:

    when al enters a bank they turn off the cameras!

  80. BoJacks Says:

    Nah, AIG has a point.

    Anyone that has played or been around college/pro football knows that there is a lot of domestic violence associated with football. There is a lot of sex stuff going on. Etc.

    Are we to believe that Al has gotten rid of every woman beater to come through the doors?

    Highly unlikely

    But I do figure he gets rid of those when the info is about to come out or if the Raiders get named in a case

  81. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Anybody find it interesting that Al’s biggest in house rivals in the past 20 years, …Gruden, Gannon, and Allen?

    Gruden the best coach he’s had.

    Gannon the best QB he’s had.

    Allen the best RB he’s had….before and after Bo Jackson.

    Al seems to clash with the best in his organization.

    Jealousy, anyone?

  82. phatcable Says:

    new post

  83. aig-raiders Says:

    RMR,

    I read that from one of the Raiders players books. Can’t pin on which one though. I think it was from either Stabler’s book.

    Nothing creepy about 3somes btw. You should try it sometimes.

  84. BoJacks Says:

    What did Kawakami say? I turned to the station too late.

    Probably butthurt b/c he got messed with

  85. BoJacks Says:

    new post

  86. manassamauler Says:

    AD was right in firing cable. cable had a lot of issues and was lucky to even get a head coaching job. the guy sucked.

  87. manassamauler Says:

    getting sued because of your employees personal problems is terrible. cable is no good.

  88. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    BoJacks Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
    What did Kawakami say? I turned to the station too late.

    Probably butthurt b/c he got messed with
    ______________________

    More than butthurt. He just bashed Al the whole time and wondered why Al would rip Cable when he ripped the guy before that. He was like “Al knows who I am.” Al my not think about this guy for 1sec after the presser.

    He was wrong in that Al doesn’t always rip coaches going out the door, just ones he doesn’t like.

  89. Football Fan Site » Sifting through the words of Al Davis Says:

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  90. ONE I AM Says:

    19.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    stubblebuzz Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    That stuff about punching Randy Hanson, the assistant coach, happened summer before last, with the other charges of abuse coming soon after. So Al kept Cable around for two full seasons after all this? And then cites it as a primary reason for firing him? Sounds fishy to me.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Sure does sound fishy-as usual.

    20.bcz24 Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    I was thinking the same. If all Als claims are true he looks like a moron for keeping Cable around for 2 more years. There is no excuse for it.

    ———————————————-
    Al cant win for losing in some eyes of the so called RaiderNation? So what should Al have done? fire another coach “for cause” in less than a few months?

    As he said no one save Randy Hanson who was in the room really said how his Jaw got broken.

    Then ex wifee and bun buns start claiming abuse!

    These were not Al’s claims these were claims that others brought against The Raiders as Cable was the coach at the time “under contract”.

    So Al should have fired him for Alegations?

    Al’s claim was once the law suits started to come in that is when he decided to go after Cable’s pockets.
    If that was the only reason? who knows? but who da f*ck cares? Not me!

  91. ONE I AM Says:

    So Al fired Cable? hmmm! I keep hearing this..

    So did Al also cut Nnamdi?

    Get real,if any of you thought Al would or should have paid Cable 5mil for goin 8 and 8 then maybe you should donate that dough! His contract had and option and Al chose not to pick it up? is that being fired? this was agreed on prior to being hired! Al already had a contengecy attack in Hue Jackson.Hmmm lets see?let Hue walk next year when his contract is up? or pay Cable 5 mil because “we are losers anymore”!

    Same with Nnam we knew that contract was back loaded!Everybody said he paid to much but you have to discount the 17mil. Al never intended to pay that but he did drive up the market up so lets see if anyone else will give Nnam 17mil for one season! I think not….

    Nnam still got paid nice for 2years and we agreed not to franchise him.Now Revis’ contract is the Bar and that is alot cheaper than 17mil a year.Now it just depends on if Nnam wants to stay or not and if he doesn’t then so be it.Again just something both sides agreed on prior to the signing of the contract.

  92. ONE I AM Says:

    correction ” we are not Losers anymore” !

  93. tharris236 Says:

    re:
    “raidertay Says:
    January 18th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    Al flat out said “I did the draft”….if thats the case then the old man deserves some credit.”

    Al always “Does the draft” But I think more of the success of the 2010 draft falls on Al listening to others who used more common sense that Al has in the past with draft picks. The 2010 draft seemed to focus more on players who could make an immediate impact. Not “Huge Potential” that Al usually falls in love with but that the coaches can never coach up to that potential.

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  95. hobber96 Says:

    I’ve been a Raider fan since the early 70’s. And while I don’t always agree with Al Davis, the one thing that stood out to me after watching his press conference was his comment about Jamarcus Russell.
    Like him or not, AD wants nothing more in life but to see his Raiders win. Which is why he invested what, $40 million in that big, stupid p.o.s. Jamarcus?
    Jamarcus has set this team back, at least, 2 to 3 years, and I don’t think after watching that press conference, Al has that long. That waste of life Jamarcus should be donating some of that cash back to Al to help him pay for some of the FA’s he’s going to have to re-sign.
    I just can’t imagine how you can let an old man invest all that money in you to try and achieve his last wish in life and then piss it away without giving a crap about doing anything but sitting on your big, lazy, fat ass! I know it won’t happen, but Jamarcus should be the next one Al takes to court.
    I normally don’t feel bad for Al, but that just struck a nerve. Sorry for ranting.

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