Pagano wasn’t coming to Oakland
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, January 19th, 2011 at 12:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.
It appears Chuck Pagano, newly named defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens, was never in the mix for the same job with the Raiders.
Working for the Raiders in 2005 and 2006, the second year through the whole Art Shell fiasco, was enough.
“Two years was plenty,” Pagano told reporters in a story on the National Football Post.
Pagano extended his congratulations to Hue Jackson, with whom he worked on the Ravens staff, noting, “He will earn every cent they pay him. And that won’t be much.”
Pagano left after the 2006 season to become defensive coordinator at the University of North Carolina before joining the Ravens as secondary coach in 2007. He became defensive coordinator Tuesday when Greg Mattison left to become defensive coordinator at the University of Michigan.
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January 19th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Ed Reed and Ray Lewis TJ and Mason are old and their superbowl window has shut
January 19th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Youch!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
333
January 19th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
lol….guess not.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
W/ Pagano gone. Let’s make a move for Moss.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Wow – that’s a pretty bad knock back to “how many coaches want to come to Oakland”
January 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Winston Moss has previously expressed interest in the Raiders…..so at least there is that…..make him assistant HC/DC for Al, I mean Hue…..
January 19th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I don’t know of any other owner who bashes their coaches like Al does. Or limits their flexibility to maximize product.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Dean Pees for DC!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
8.raiderzmaverick Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
I don’t know of any other owner who bashes their coaches like Al does. Or limits their flexibility to maximize product.
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hush now….Father knows best!
lol
January 19th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Winston Moss wouldn’t be a bad deal for DC. He’s done a great job with those GB linebackers. Matthews, Barnett, Bishop, Hawk, Chillar, etc..
January 19th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Clancy Pendergast sighting in Oakland
-Mort (ESPN)
January 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Keith Butler for DC!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I was hoping Pendergast would take over the secondary last season, but isn’t Ross still there?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Clancy Pendergast sighting in Oakland
-Mort (ESPN)
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hmm…..
January 19th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Ouch…….I have a feeling that Pagano’s beliefs are more the rule than the exception as to how NFL coaching circles views the Oakland Raiders.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
That was my point. As entertaining as Als presser was yest. It undermines Hue ability to add quality coaches. Who would want to come to this zoo. Its all about perception whether its acurate or not.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Report: Patriots’ Brady dealt with foot fracture all season
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excuses excuses
January 19th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Hue gets hamstrung earlier than we all thought!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Damn. “two years is plenty” and “will earn every penny, and that won’t be much” is pretty telling.
These beliefs are pretty universal.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Pretty sad when your own guy wont come work for you, and proclaims through the media that Hue wont get paid much!
OUCH!!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Translation: “Al didn’t want to pay me enough and I got lucky the in-house guy left for a sweet college gig.”
January 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
W/ Pagano gone. Let’s make a move for Moss.
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Moss would be a great addition
January 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Pagano sounds like a bitter ex-employee.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Maybe Chuck Pagano was coming here until he heard that crap we all heard yesterday, he then realized he was better off coaching some where else.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Clancy Pendergast sighting in Oakland
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I hate to “Close the Door” on him, but I don’t know “How you mend a broken organization” by adding him.
“If you don’t know Al by now” while it may bring “Joy” to some of you to sign Pendergrass, Al really has a “Love TKO” when it comes to his defense, and their is no “Voodoo” that will change it.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
raidertay Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Pagano sounds like a bitter ex-employee.
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Most of got the Randy Hanson treatment lol
January 19th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Refreshing commentary for once from someone in the coaching fraternity… Coaching the Raiders has in essence become the Crucible for pro coaches. A defining stepping stone. The opportunity to learn in the most intense, stressful and bizarre of environments. A select few realize, however, that working with Davis also provides the chance to tap into one of the great football minds of our time. And despite the outward appearance, Davis’ mind and mental faculties are definitely still there. Fueled by stinginess, vindictiveness, rage, all those feelings you’re mom told you to stop acting out or else those feelings would stay on your face forever. And if you kids out there want to know how this looks like after 80 years, look no further…
January 19th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
*must
January 19th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Clancy Pendergast??????????
Hmmmm
That Cal Bear D looked pretty good last season, but we all know what Romeo Crenell did for that KC D, after Pendergast left.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Pendergrast would not be a bad move. Al obviously likes him and he has had decent success as a DC with some above average NFL defenses.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Chuck Pagano should watch his big mouth! Classless comment.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Good luck Hue.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Gary
You dont read much do you, there are about million of them out there today after that great presser we had yesterday.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Clancy Pendergast……….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clancy_Pendergast
January 19th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
7.Dakota Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Winston Moss has previously expressed interest in the Raiders…..so at least there is that…..make him assistant HC/DC for Al, I mean Hue…..
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Hue don’t want a dang asst HC. He would take it as a threat to his job, and leave as soon as he could.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Clancy is a 3-4 guy, if Al is really interviewing him, that could be an interesting wrinkle, considering that Waufle is running his 4-man line to Al’s liking already
January 19th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Dick Jauron?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Im not to excited about Clancy….wonder if Moss has what it takes…
January 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Sean McDermott?
Anyone?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Clancy runs much more 3-4 than 4-3. If Wauffles has a say we will stay the way we are. Might be some tention there.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
McDermott was hired by the Panthers.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Dick Jauron?
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Ahhh….
January 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Nevermind.
I guess he already signed w/ the Panthers.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
40.DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Sean McDermott?
Anyone?
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Didn’t he get hired by another team?
I guess if we gave him a higher posisition we could get him… ast HC/DC? I don’t think Al will do that.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I’d like Pendergast to come aboard as a DBs coach, but not to run a the defense.
Hopefully Al is waiting to interview Winston Moss. I’d still like to see Dean Pees get an interview, too.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Keith Butler for DC!
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Co-signed!
January 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Hue gets hamstrung earlier than we all thought!
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Silver,
was he working out with Brad Roll?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Dick Jauron?
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Dont think he has the right attitude to work with Hue and run our defense. Just my opinion from his time here in Buffalo, he seems to reserved.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I’d like Pendergast to come aboard as a DBs coach, but not to run a the defense.
Hopefully Al is waiting to interview Winston Moss. I’d still like to see Dean Pees get an interview, too.
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Yeah, I 2nd that.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Hue gets hamstrung earlier than we all thought!
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Silver,
was he working out with Brad Roll?
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Now thats funny right there….
January 19th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
76.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 6:18 am
I’m willing to bet that Robert Gallery, Samson Satele, Cooper Carlisle, Langston Walker, Mario Henderson & Daniel Loper would LOVE to play for Tom Cable again in Seattle … and I’m sure at least 2 of these guys will
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Gallery, and Carlisle I can see, maybe Loper, but why would Cable want to be stuck with Henderson, or Walker?
January 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Dean Pees seems like a better idea.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Pees is interesting..
January 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Gallery, and Carlisle I can see, maybe Loper, but why would Cable want to be stuck with Henderson, or Walker?
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I doubt Cable is going to have authority over the roster in Seattle. He will make recommendations to Carroll but why would Pete want to bring in a bunch of turnstyles for his up and coming team, with its more than fragile QB. Hasselbeck missed a game with a back injury he suffered without contact! They will continue to build through the draft.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
why fix what isnt broken? Our four man line is one of the best pressure fronts in foot ball. We can upgrade a few players behind them, and avoid 5 safty line ups, we will be fine.
January 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
The Real D-Rac Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Dean Pees seems like a better idea.
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Our defense “Pees” on opponents…
January 19th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
I would be in favor of a more pre snap disguise however
January 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I still don’t get why Al isn’t pursuing Dave Wannstedt. Wanny believes in a 4-3 front that maximizes natural pressure with selective blitzing. Right up Davis’s alley.
Plus, he has a killer mustache.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
RR
That is damn funny!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
why would Cable want to be stuck with Henderson, or Walker?
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Depth. plus experience in the zbs
I’d laugh pretty hard if Seattle trades for Cornell Green! Erik Pears also plays for Buffalo
James Marten = Dolphins
Chris Morris = Panthers
January 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
What about this dude Darren Perry??????
http://prod.www.packers.clubs.nfl.com/team/coaches/darren-perry/23c7d6e1-2f60-440a-9cea-bd4a20b0426d
January 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
2 years from now Hue will get the Al Saunders will get the HC gig and Al will blast Hue for being a traitor for leaving for a big fat check somewhere else!
Guaranteed!
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VERY probably so.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Bring in Mathias Kiwanuka….
Shaugnessy
Seymour
Kelly
Houston
Kiwanuka
Henderson
Bryant
Killer rotation…
January 19th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
I don’t think that Hue and Saunders, if does become the OC, will be told what to do as much as they are told what to to on the D side of the ball.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I still don’t get why Al isn’t pursuing Dave Wannstedt. Wanny believes in a 4-3 front that maximizes natural pressure with selective blitzing. Right up Davis’s alley.
Plus, he has a killer mustache.
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One of the best stache’s around….but he likes a lot of Zone…
January 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Pendergast runs a 3-4 D, same with Winston Moss.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Our defense “Pees” on opponents
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I love it!
Dean Pees was the Pats DC for 4 seasons before he joined Baltimore as LB Coach
January 19th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
There are a lot of cars over there today, just passed by.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
El Tato Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Pendergast runs a 3-4 D, same with Winston Moss.
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Winston hasnt run a defense before… Hes been a LB coach/asst HC only….
January 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
55.bcz24 Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Gallery, and Carlisle I can see, maybe Loper, but why would Cable want to be stuck with Henderson, or Walker?
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I doubt Cable is going to have authority over the roster in Seattle. He will make recommendations to Carroll but why would Pete want to bring in a bunch of turnstyles for his up and coming team, with its more than fragile QB. Hasselbeck missed a game with a back injury he suffered without contact! They will continue to build through the draft.
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When you hire the best ZB coach, you let him but the groceries, and cook the grub!
Our scrubs were better than thiers,
January 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
What other team runs a similar D to the Raiders?
January 19th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Pees has been in the playoffs 5 of the past 6 seasons
2008 was the exception, when Tom Brady got rocked by that Chiefs safety …
January 19th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
59.SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I still don’t get why Al isn’t pursuing Dave Wannstedt. Wanny believes in a 4-3 front that maximizes natural pressure with selective blitzing. Right up Davis’s alley.
Plus, he has a killer mustache.
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Maybe he can give Klutz a mustache ride to the awau games?
January 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Pees is from Ohio, but has previously served as DC for Michigan State …
thoughts from BSJ & Raider O??
January 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
give Klutz a mustache ride
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Who?
January 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Zach Miller just made the Pro Bowl because of Gates injury. Congrats.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Congrats Zack!
Zach Miller will replace Antonio Gates (toe, foot) on the AFC Pro Bowl roster.
For a player who’s never made it to Honolulu, it’s a nice resume builder as Miller heads to free agency. Still just 25, Miller set a career high with five TDs in 2010 while reeling in 60 passes for 685 yards. A true three-down player, Miller finished as the No. 10 overall tight end in fantasy football.
Source: ESPN.com
January 19th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Zach Miller’s asking price just went up!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Contract Information for Antonio Gates
7/28/2010: Signed a six-year, $39.8 million contract. The deal contains $20.4 million guaranteed, including a $4.575 million signing bonus, $3.47 million first-year “option” bonus, and Gates’ first two years’ base salaries. His 2012 salary and $2.4 million of his 2013 salary are guaranteed for injury (not skill). 2011: $5.2 million, 2012: $4 million (+ $6.4 million option bonus), 2013: $4.5 million, 2014: $5 million, 2015: $5.9 million, 2016: Free Agent
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Expect Miller’s agent to ask for something similar!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
I don’t know RRS. I love Zach, but he is no Gates.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Tony Gonzalez turns 35 years old next month and is due to make $5.75 million in 2011
January 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Tony’s a future HOF.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Contract Information for Kellen Winslow
4/6/2009: Signed a six-year, $36.1 million contract. The deal contains $20.1 million guaranteed, including his 2009 and 2010 salaries. Winslow’s 2011 base salary is guaranteed for injury, but not for skill. Another $7 million is available through incentives. 2010: $6.721 million, 2011: $8.259 million, 2012: $3.3 million, 2013: $4.5 million, 2014: $4.5 million, 2015: Free Agent
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DMAC, how about this ???
January 19th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110119_al_saunders_expected_to_land_raiders_coordinator_job
Al interviewed Al today. Can the Raiders handle another Al?
January 19th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Winslow was obviously over payed.^^^^^^^^^^^
January 19th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
76.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
give Klutz a mustache ride
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Who?
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Dave Wannstache!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Jeremy Shockey is slated to make $4.2 million in 2011
January 19th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Whats Cooley salary?
January 19th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Jason Witten & Chris Cooley are making roughly $4 million in 2011 on contracts they signed back in 2006 or 2007!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Yeah, I don’t know??????
January 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Bring in Pees and Ray Lewis to teach R.Mclearning how to kick azz!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
we will move forward without Pagano…
and piss in his general direction…
January 19th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Contract Information for Heath Miller
7/29/2009: Signed a six-year, $35.3 million contract. The deal included a $12.5 million signing bonus. 2010: $2.498 million, 2011: $3.386 million, 2012: $4.274 million, 2013: Free Agent
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Todd Heap = $4.6 million in 2011
Dustin Keller = cheap rookie contract (less than $1 million)
January 19th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Zach Miller will make anywhere from $5-8 million in 2011
Print That!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
z miller’s hands went numb after his injury…
January 19th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Bring in Pees and Ray Lewis to teach R.Mclearning how to kick azz!
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Isn’t that what Greg Biekert and his protege Travis Goethel are for ???
January 19th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Fair market value for Zmiller would be $5.5 million, but Al Davis will give him $7 mil just to make him happy!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
97.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Bring in Pees and Ray Lewis to teach R.Mclearning how to kick azz!
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Isn’t that what Greg Biekert and his protege Travis Goethel are for ???
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I liked Biekert, and he was a very good MLB, but he NEVER kicked azz like R. Lewis.
Goethel is just not very good, nor does/can he kick azz.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
98.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Fair market value for Zmiller would be $5.5 million, but Al Davis will give him $7 mil just to make him happy!
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If not. I sure Dungver would love to.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Fair market value for Zmiller would be $5.5 million, but Al Davis will give him $7 mil just to make him happy!
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To keep him from leaving, you mean.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
In a few hours, Jerry is going to put the cheeseburger down and start a new post w/ the Zach Miller news.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
how about bring in laron mcclain if bush is not re-signable. word is mcclain is on his way out in baltimore. would give us a similar 1-2 punch.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Goethel is pretty good from what he showed in preseason…. Sucks that he hurt his back… looked super slow after that
January 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
If not. I sure Dungver would love to.
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You’re probably right, especially since Pro Bowl WR Brandon Lloyd is only making $1.4 million next season!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
103.irjonny Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
how about bring in laron mcclain if bush is not re-signable. word is mcclain is on his way out in baltimore. would give us a similar 1-2 punch.
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Yeah, that would be good.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Jim Rome is a tool.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
As someone else mentioned I would sign Mcclain, only to play FB for us and move Reece to TE.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
104.DeuceDeuce Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Goethel is pretty good from what he showed in preseason…. Sucks that he hurt his back… looked super slow after that
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Dude was pretty slow before the injury. He is not an NFL starter. If he learned to long snap, he should stay, if not… we can use the roster spot another way.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
108.DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
As someone else mentioned I would sign Mcclain, only to play FB for us and move Reece to TE.
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Reece needs to stay on the track he is on… the X factor/FB. It would be nice to have a better short yardage FB though.
January 19th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Reece has great hands and knows how to get open. Imagine that double TE set w/ Zach and Reece?
WOW!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
It would be nice to have a better short yardage FB though.
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too bad there isn’t a Jon Ritchie or Mike Alstott in every draft!
January 19th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
RRS,
What ever happened to Conner from the Panthers?
January 19th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Not Conner, what was that dudes name from Carolina?
January 19th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
Hoover! My bad. What happened to that dude?
January 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
D-Rac,
Travis Goethel is a run stuffing beast at MLB.
They just put him at WLB to get some snaps as a rookie.
Unfortunately, the WLB in our defense covers RB’s & TE’s and this guy missed 10 weeks with back surgery!
he’s not gonna come back from an injury like that and run a 4.3 forty man!
former Pro Bowl MLB Zach Thomas looked like Ricky Brown after he had back surgery!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
111.DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Reece has great hands and knows how to get open. Imagine that double TE set w/ Zach and Reece?
WOW!
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Yep, so leave him where he is. He does play TE from time to time. It is better to have hin in the back field so the D does not know if he is gonne Run the ball, block for a RB, pass block, or go out on a pattern. This dude is a TRUE X factor. Dont mess it up Hue/Saunders!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
DMAC, nice memory!
I wanted to sign vet FB Brad Hoover and draft FB John Conner last offseason.
John Conner (as expected) is a THUMPER for the Jets. Hoover at 34 years old was out of the NFL this season
January 19th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I’m glad most of the talking-heads are being negative about Al Davis.
Here’s an honest look at Davis’ recent career.
Traded Gruden (1 good coaching hire out of last 7)
Passed on Monte Kiffin as D-coordinator
Keeps bringing in reject QBs so DAVIS can get the
glory if they resurrect.
Fires nobody head coaches 5 out of 6 times.
Forces his outdated D philosophy on coaches, then fires them when they fail.
Davis has 14 non-playoff seasons in the last 20, and he’s calling others losers.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
116.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
D-Rac,
Travis Goethel is a run stuffing beast at MLB.
They just put him at WLB to get some snaps as a rookie.
Unfortunately, the WLB in our defense covers RB’s & TE’s and this guy missed 10 weeks with back surgery!
he’s not gonna come back from an injury like that and run a 4.3 forty man!
former Pro Bowl MLB Zach Thomas looked like Ricky Brown after he had back surgery!
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Sorry RR I just don’t see it. I am not saying the guy has never made a tackle, he just aint a starter in the NFL, not even in the 3-4. I would be glade tobe wrong, and have him play like Ray, or even like a average MLB, but I don’t see that happnin.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
D-Rac,
absolutely right on 117.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Reece, McFaddy, Miller, Ford, Bush are all game changers, or can be.
BUT without a real WR or two, and a QB it will all go to waste.
On a team like Green Bay Miller, McFaddy, Reece, and Ford would all be superstars!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
I cant imagine Hue doing anything drastic next season. Continuity is key with a young offense that was showing some promise but still lacked a killer instinct in execution (lots of broken plays and penalties).
Campbell comes back as unquestioned starter
Reece should absolutely stay at FB, I dont think Hue requires a bruising lead-blocker FB, especially with a more powerful line.
Bush and Miller sound like Al’s priorities for FA
The recievers are young, but I have heard that Lal is staying and it seems they are just gonna stay the course with these guys for now
The outside of the line seems set with Walker and Veldheer, and I think Hue will stick with Satele, Carlisle and Gallery/Loper as the starters, but start working some younger/larger guys in at RG and Center as the season progresses (unless they steal a blue-chip interior lineman in the draft: Wisniwski or Pouncey)
January 19th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
D-Rac,
quit comparing guys to Ray Lewis man. Or even Patrick Willis & Karlos Dansby for that matter!
MLB’s like this don’t grow on trees and McClain is his own man. Same thing with Goethel. Sky is the limit for these young MLB’s. God only knows what they are capable of …
Keith Butler, Winston Moss or Dean Pees as DC would be pretty sweet!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Goethel does look undersized to ever dominate in this league. Zach Thomas was a 1 in 100 type for a reason.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
I have heard that Lal is staying
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BBB,
from where ???
January 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Impending free agent Michael Vick reiterated Wednesday that the Eagles have not approached him about a contract extension.
“Nothing has happened as of this point,” he said. Vick, 31 in June, did confirm that he “absolutely” wants to re-sign, although serious negotiations may have to wait at least until the NFL and NFLPA make legitimate progress in CBA talks. Vick won’t be a free agent until a new agreement is struck.
Source: Philadelphia Daily News
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Let’s give Vick, Nnamdi’s $$$$$$$$$$$$
January 19th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
With the way the offseason is shaking out thus far, it’s very difficult to tell what the focus of the offseason is going to be.
My money is on new pieces being brought into the secondary, and the offensive line being somewhat neglected yet again.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Any reason WAUFLE is not being (very) seriously coinsidered as DC?
HE did for our DLine what Hue did for our offense.
Give him full reign over the whole deal in 2011. Why not?
names beign thown out here are not sure things by ANY stretch and after Al’s’s NIGHTMAE presser (ca you say shoot your organization in the foot, head and torso?) who would come here?
Waufle is under contract and deserves a shot. (If need be make him keep many of his Dline responsibilities too)
This would maintain continuity and he sure had a h3ll of a year. If you had a year like that don’t you ask your boss to consider a promotion?
Waufle for OAK DC
PS He got production out of fata55 KELLY for pete’s sake!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Vito at the SF Gate indicated that Lal was not one of the coaches let go. I hope that report is wrong, but if not I can see that the strategy is to just keep growing these guys with consistent position coaching.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Waufle has been a defensive line coach for literally his entire career, except for one brief stint as an offensive line coach. He has never called plays on the defensive side of the ball…
But I suppose Al is doing that anyway…
January 19th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
While on teh subject of Crazy Al….
Not sure if you saw it but for some reason Davis now has 3-pronged, ET-esque hands…(?)
My mom and dad are 84/85 and in comparison they look like teenagers relative to this guy. I don’t get it.
Unless of course decades of running a team like a MADE-MAN MOBSTER has its own payback that we are all witnessing now. He truly is a nasty, vindictive, petty old man. Sad to see/say that about anyone but true in this case.
Owner insanity aside, I truly think 2011 will be a playoff year with any luck (low injuries) and good offseason moves (decent draft, keep key free agents incl both h-backs…and shore up the run D with an agressive Dcoordinat0r/scheme–> Waufle!).
They do have a tough schedule (AFC east and NFC north) but Denver, KC and SD have the same road to hoe.
(I just typed hoe)
January 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
What about these DC’s?
Jim Mora
Dave Wansdted
Both seem very capable. But there might be a unseen candidate around, a current defensive asistant.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
DMAC Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Impending free agent Michael Vick reiterated Wednesday that the Eagles have not approached him about a contract extension.
“Nothing has happened as of this point,” he said. Vick, 31 in June, did confirm that he “absolutely” wants to re-sign, although serious negotiations may have to wait at least until the NFL and NFLPA make legitimate progress in CBA talks. Vick won’t be a free agent until a new agreement is struck.
Source: Philadelphia Daily News
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Let’s give Vick, Nnamdi’s $$$$$$$$$$$$
in a heartbeat
January 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go DUBS!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
What about these DC’s?
Jim Mora
Dave Wansdted
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FART!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
http://www.counterpunch.org
For all the political heads on this board.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Tuckrule,
the reason is the Peter Principle. Why waste one person’s dominance in position A by moving up to position B?
Hue as head coach will mainly be calling the plays, his dominant trait. Not much else for a Raider HC to do.
Waufle as D-coordinator would be asked to do something completely beyond anything he’s ever done. Good recipe for failure.
If you’re going to hire a 1st-time DC, better that it be someone who has experience coaching all units of the D, and maybe even the O (know the enemy!).
January 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
124.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
D-Rac,
quit comparing guys to Ray Lewis man. Or even Patrick Willis & Karlos Dansby for that matter!
MLB’s like this don’t grow on trees and McClain is his own man. Same thing with Goethel. Sky is the limit for these young MLB’s. God only knows what they are capable of …
Keith Butler, Winston Moss or Dean Pees as DC would be pretty sweet!
*****
Why should I quit? I want a MLB like RL! McClain can be close, as he has the tools, and may be able to be a more complete LB than RL. Goethel on the other hand will never be as good as Isaiah Ekejiuba.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Vick?
no thanks … Al Davis is going to let Miller, Bush, Reece, Seymour, Asomugha & Wimbley go to make Peyton Manning a Raider QB (double Indy’s offer)
then McFadden, Murphy, Ford & Myers will be Pro Bowlers. The Raiders will make the playoffs and Al Davis will look like a genious!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
I want a MLB like RL! McClain can be close, as he has the tools, and may be able to be a more complete LB than RL.
***
start preparing now for the letdown!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Green Bay 43.5
@Chicago +3.5
New York 38.5
@Pittsburgh -3.5
Thoughts anyone?
January 19th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Eli Manning earns $16.25 million per season under his current contract and Brady earns $18 million per season. Manning and the Colts, could, for instance agree to a 4 year, $80 million extension thereby making him the highest paid player in the NFL for the length of his contract
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/15719
Al Davis is offering 4-years $100 million!
January 19th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
140.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Vick?
no thanks … Al Davis is going to let Miller, Bush, Reece, Seymour, Asomugha & Wimbley go to make Peyton Manning a Raider QB (double Indy’s offer)
then McFadden, Murphy, Ford & Myers will be Pro Bowlers. The Raiders will make the playoffs and Al Davis will look like a genious!
****
Just keep Reece, and Miller.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
ouch.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
141.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
I want a MLB like RL! McClain can be close, as he has the tools, and may be able to be a more complete LB than RL.
***
start preparing now for the letdown!
******
Why do you want me to prepare for a letdown??
McClain was a very good rookie MLB, and will get better. What do you think is gonna happen, he turns into the next N. Harris?
January 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Just keep Reece, and Miller
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Nope!
we’d be lucky to resign Higgins …
January 19th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
147.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Just keep Reece, and Miller
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Nope!
we’d be lucky to resign Higgins …
******
Whats up with you RR?
January 19th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
McClain was a very good rookie MLB, and will get better. What do you think is gonna happen, he turns into the next N. Harris?
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Who knows?
but Lewis/Willis = lofty expectations and his rookie season didn’t show ANY indication that he’s got that much talent and leadership ability
could he be good? sure.
could he be a bust? yes.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
D-Rac,
paying Peyton Manning $100 million leaves almost NO ROOM to sign our free agents …
Al Davis is going to let Miller, Bush, Reece, Seymour, Asomugha & Wimbley. It’s already in the works
McFadden, Murphy, Ford & Myers will be Pro Bowlers
Don’t sweat it!
skill position guys are not a priority with PM under center. We only have so many draft picks to remake Cable zbs scrap heap O-Line. combine that with a few undrafted guys and FA’s nobody else wants for the vet minimum. Bank on a CB in RD2 to replace Nnamdi and Routt getting “modest” starter money
January 19th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
So RR what do think? Will RM be good or a bust?
I did not say I expect RM to be RL, and I never mentioned Willis. I said I want a MLB like RL, and I think RM has the tools to come close.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
150.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
D-Rac,
paying Peyton Manning $100 million leaves almost NO ROOM to sign our free agents …
Al Davis is going to let Miller, Bush, Reece, Seymour, Asomugha & Wimbley. It’s already in the works
McFadden, Murphy, Ford & Myers will be Pro Bowlers
Don’t sweat it!
skill position guys are not a priority with PM under center. We only have so many draft picks to remake Cable zbs scrap heap O-Line. combine that with a few undrafted guys and FA’s nobody else wants for the vet minimum. Bank on a CB in RD2 to replace Nnamdi and Routt getting “modest” starter money
****
How do you know we will have no room? Do you have some info yer not sharing? What will the cap be in 2011? How would PM contract be set up??
January 19th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Ya know RR I like you, so I gonna stop now. Have a good day.
RAIDER on my brother.
January 19th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
So RR what do think? Will RM be good or a bust?
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I haven’t seen enough. Give him a few years
He had some ups and downs as a rookie
He was supposed to be the most NFL ready dominant MLB to come out in the draft over the past 10 years and our Run Defense ranked 29th!
I also know it takes 11 guys to stop the run and our DC was not retained for a reason … these things have a way of working themselves out
January 19th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
5pm in Podunk – later gents!
January 19th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Just Win Baby Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Jim Rome is a tool.
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Hehe, wish I had heard his take today.
January 19th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 19th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
It would be nice to have a better short yardage FB though.
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Mike Bush is enough.
January 19th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
I’ve just been reading the kind words expressed about Marcel Reese.
I just want to remind the consistent readers that can go back three years when Reese first made his apperance.
Mind you I had the opportunity to view Reese dorung his formtive years @ the U of W (a veritable bastion of talent that Al regurarly picks through. Usually comes away happy).
So I just want to see how much love is out there for a fellow reader tht has been touting Reese EVER SINCE HE PULLED UP IN OAKTOWN.
So; a little love? Homeboy makes good!
January 19th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
I saw Bush play a few games in college with the Cardinals.I was specifily watching him because of course we needed a carry the load type RB at that time and he was that but was never a power runner.He has power but he was never a real hammer type,former QB.I saw the game when he broke his stick man it reminded me when LT did Joey Theisman.Thought we could get em with a steal and we did.Would love for us to try and re-sign him but?
January 19th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Someone is going to pay him to be a starting RB? I know I would if I needed a full time back.
So should Al pay him starters money when we have that in Run DMC now? I dont think he will,depending on what the tags are like in the new CBA he may franchise or T Tag him. Atleast he could get a pick for him and if not then we will still have him for atleast another year.
January 19th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Well Pagano was a candidate in Al’s demented Senility ridden mind. Oh so was Harbaugh. This job will set Hue back a good 3-5 years. Few NFL teams want a vormer Raiders head coach.