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Ochocinco and the Raiders

If Chad Ochcocinco and the Cincinnati Bengals are truly headed for a divorce as speculated on Bengals.com, Hue Jackson’s presence as head coach would seem to make the Raiders a potential destination.

If the team’s own Web site is floating the possibility, there’s probably something there.

When Jackson was hired, Ochocinco said on his Twitter account: “Congratulations 2 Hue Jackson for becoming the Oakland Raiders new head coach. Best receiver coach I ever had.”

Earlier this month, there were these tweets:

“I would not care where Hue Jackson got a job. I would go play for him, run through a wall, jump in front of a bus, etc. u get the point.”

“Man that was the greatest coach I ever had. Hue Jackson would choke me out, cuss me out, just to make sure I was precise on everything.

“It would be refreshing to be with Hue Jackson again. I know I wouldn’t have to worry about being thrown under a bus again.”

The “under the bus” reference has to do with his strained relationship with current Bengals coach Marvin Lewis.

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  • alex7

    “Ok Mr. Davis, we can either get to the playoffs with a top QB or a top swarming, turnover-producing 3/4 confusing D. Which one will it be?”

    “Naww. Let’s do it with a mediocre QB and a man-to-man defense that can’t swarm to the ball because 7 men are running 7 different directions 2 seconds after the snap.”

  • aig-raiders

    Harbaugh was prob not happy with Pagano but the dude was hella funny though.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    You also know ANYTHING can happen in a playoff game,
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    Not the way you put it. You postulate you “can’t” win without a QB with a 100 rating or higher.

  • alex7

    Mistic,

    how am I “reaching” by pointing out that, no, you DON’T need a top O-line to make the playoffs.

    Those 3 teams have very average to below average o-lines.

    So no, you don’t build through the O-line.

    You build and win through either the QB, or a confusing, blitzing, zone, ball-hawking D.

    We don’t seem to value either.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Aig-Raiders Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    KK,

    JC has no football instincts. Al Davis is very wrong on his JC is better than “Kim” Newton. Kim walks in and has the attitude that he will carry his team.
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    I’m sure you know very little about “Kim Newton”, and absolutely nothing about his pro career.

  • aig-raiders

    You can win with JC. It just that you need a fantastic D like the Ravens of 2001 or the loaded team of the Raiders in the 70′s and early 80′s with a bunch of HOF’s.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The key every year is to find a way into the playoffs, maybe hope for a good draw and try to win a couple of games and the Super Bowl.

    The experience of playing in these types of games are so valuable over the years of making the playoffs regularly, yet our man Soup has never played in a meaningful Week 17 game, better yet the playoffs.

    He may have the talents and the manicured stats, but he has to much quit in him for me. I really hope we draft a QB or look to add some competition to “JC” in case he doesn’t take us to the playoffs in 2011.

  • alex7

    KK,

    postulate. Insinuate. Why not just take the actual words, the actual facts.

    Of the top 12 QBs, 9 made it to the playoffs, and 2 missed it by one game.

    There is no stronger correlation to making the playoffs each year.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    alex,

    over the last few weeks of the season all 3 of those o-lines have played pretty well. Its about getting hot at the right time.

  • aig-raiders

    I know that Kim Newton is not surrounded by 2 top 5 RB’s in the draft and that he actually was the reason they won the National Championship on the offense. I also know and have seen JC bombed on 2 exactly similar 2 min drive situation in back to back years (vs Det and vs Jax). That’s a whole lot more than you know.

  • JONTRAIN

    Vince Young quit on his team. Literally. That’s a huge strike against him. And Jeff Fisher couldn’t deal with him not preparing for games, that’s why he had issues with him, even when they were winning games. He’s been benched twice because he has mental/maturity issues. No leadership intangibles.

    VY at his best? Of course I’d take him.

    But ur just not sure what ur getting with this guy.

    I’m on the fence about him.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Most teams that in the trophy are solid in the trenches. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

  • JONTRAIN

    Cam Newton is just another Tebow.

    He doesn’t throw the ball like a real pro prospect should.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    I love Cam Newton. To be fair davis was pointing out that campbell was rated as a better pro prospect coming out than newton is.

    Newton to me is a once in a generation player

  • aig-raiders

    Kim Newton can throw a ball for 70 yds at ease. Puhleezzz. His knock is he has not been tested as a thrower but his QB rating is 40 points higher than Brees and Manning when they were in college.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    cant compare newton and tebow, dont be fooled by the one sub par passing performance after a 5 week lay off. newton is an excellent passer, tebow cant throw t all.

  • JONTRAIN

    I’ve watched a lot of Cam Newton this year. Trust me he aint it. He reminded me way too much of Jamarcus throwing to wide open receivers with a huge margin for error.

    He doesn’t have pro level accuracy, and u can forget about all those off tackle runs in the pros. He’s in for a rude awakening.

    Tebow 2.0

  • Just Fire Baby

    Most teams that in the trophy are solid in the trenches. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

    *******************************

    More so the defensive lines than the O-lines.

    NY Giants, Steelers, Ravens, even the Colts.

    All won bowls with much better D-lines than O-lines. That’s why your going to see a crazy amount of D-lineman taken early in this years draft.

    These elite D-lines and players simply just push around whoever’s in front of them every week. Don’t matter who they play.

    Steelers, Jets, Packers, Bears. If you had to say which four teams pressure the QB the best in the NFL, those are them.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    ” cam newton is the best passing qb prospect in the sec,in recent memory just a notch below stratford was, better than russell, better than tebow”

    Gary Danielson cbs college football analyst, and former 10 year nfl pro.

    i think he knows what he is talking about. His opinion also matche what i saw on the field with my own eyes, and i watched almost every newton game.

  • Hunt Eat Raiders

    4.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    Let’s see…

    Would Pittsburgh, NYJ, Green Bay, or Chicago take a chance on Ocho?

    Probably not.

    Neither should we, if we plan on competing at their level.

    ///////////////////////////////////////////////

    What is this “WE” stuff you are talkin? We? We? We who? You got a mouse in your pocket? Who are you to be sayin we? You don’t like the Raiders, nor Al, nor most of OUR players n coaches, er scheam, er even City! YOU are NOT a Raiders fan at all kid. You are a WANNA BE Raider fan. You have no guts and no class kid! You timidly wear a Raider shirt in public now and then hopein not to have to try and defend the team, players, scheam, or owner, but talk like a tuff guy online. ONLINE! I would bet the farm you NEVER say shizit about Al in public. I bet you have never been to a game. I know you don’t talk yer tuff guy stuff in the H.O.T.!

  • JONTRAIN

    Eh. We’ll see. Cam’s a guy who it totally depends on who drafts him. I’m in SEC country, and most people down here see him as a 2nd round guy, not a 1st round franchise type.

    As opposed to Andrew Luck. I watch him throw the ball and it’s like wow. Now THAT’s a can’t miss prospect. He puts the ball right on the money.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
    Most teams that in the trophy are solid in the trenches. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

    *******************************

    More so the defensive lines than the O-lines.

    NY Giants, Steelers, Ravens, even the Colts.

    All won bowls with much better D-lines than O-lines. That’s why your going to see a crazy amount of D-lineman taken early in this years draft.

    These elite D-lines and players simply just push around whoever’s in front of them every week. Don’t matter who they play.

    Steelers, Jets, Packers, Bears. If you had to say which four teams pressure the QB the best in the NFL, those are them.

    ===================================================

    Can anyone name a team that has won it all with a bad o-line? I know some teams havent had great o-lines, but most have good o-lines. We have had terrible o-line play. Pass protection in particular.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The thing that Tebow and Newton have in common, is that they converted so many 3rd and 3′s, 3rd and 4′s in college by simply taking a shotgun snap and plowing up the middle.

    That’s not going to work in the NFL. Those are going to be the tough throws and I’d rather have a guy from a crappier school that’s used to guys getting in on him while trying to complete passes.

    But he throws a much better ball than Tebow does.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    JONTRAIN Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
    Eh. We’ll see. Cam’s a guy who it totally depends on who drafts him. I’m in SEC country, and most people down here see him as a 2nd round guy, not a 1st round franchise type.

    As opposed to Andrew Luck. I watch him throw the ball and it’s like wow. Now THAT’s a can’t miss prospect. He puts the ball right on the money.

    ==================================================

    I like luck too. If newton does fall to rd 2 maybe he can end up here in hu jack city and carry a clip
    board behind jc. hu jack and saunders can coach him up.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The Bears are widely considered to have a crappy O-line, and the Packers have had issues as well.

    Aren’t the Jets starting 2 or 3 different guys at O-line than last year?

    You need good players everywhere obviously, but defensive lines and hybrid blitz guys like Clay Mathews and James Harrison are dominating football right now.

  • YoungAmerican

    Honestly? I wouldn’t be completely opposed to Cam Newton.

    Massive boom or bust potential. He could be incredible. He could be JaMarcus-level bad. Neither would surprise me.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    JFB,

    Newton is the wave of the future…lmao

  • YoungAmerican

    Bears o-line has played very solid football as of late. Moving bust LT Chris Williams to LG was a great movie. Frank Omiyale has played solid football at LT in his place. Kreutz is solid as always, and Garza is healthy again. Jamarcus Webb has improved at RT.

    Not the best offensive line in football, but they’ve come around since the beginning of the season. The offensive line’s play is the reason they’re one game away from the Superbowl and not watching from home.

  • Hunt Eat Raiders

    251.alex7 Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
    “Ok Mr. Davis, we can either get to the playoffs with a top QB or a top swarming, turnover-producing 3/4 confusing D. Which one will it be?”

    “Naww. Let’s do it with a mediocre QB and a man-to-man defense that can’t swarm to the ball because 7 men are running 7 different directions 2 seconds after the snap.”

    *****//////////////

    We were a game away from going this year with a half retarded QB, a women beating nympho for a coach, and a very young team. Loss time injuries to DMAC, Miller, McClain, Henderson, Nnamdi, Gallery, Huff, the LT to C flop… We can do it with two things.

    Better WR’s play, and a years worth of experiance on the D.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
    The Bears are widely considered to have a crappy O-line, and the Packers have had issues as well.

    Aren’t the Jets starting 2 or 3 different guys at O-line than last year?

    You need good players everywhere obviously, but defensive lines and hybrid blitz guys like Clay Mathews and James Harrison are dominating football right now.

    ==================================================

    This is true however the bears o-line has played really well over the last 3-4 games. Its about playing well at the right time. but i still cant think of one lombardi winner with a bad o-line, they have all been at least solid.

  • YoungAmerican

    Move*, not movie. I need to start sleeping more.

  • Just Fire Baby

    The Bears, like last week and every week before it, were carried by their defense and special teams.

    Has been that way for years now with the Bears. Get some good play like Cutler the last few weeks and they can win a bowl.

    They just need the O-line to not get in the way.

  • http://tada Florida Pete

    198.BornInOakland Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Oh HELL NO on Ochocinco. I do not want that Twitter addicted little girl in Oakland. He’s a clown act and a fake.

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    now this made me laugh…

  • OAKlifer

    hey the local troll!!!!!

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    The bears are who we thought they were, they wont win with bad o-line play. Teams dont win it all with bad o-line play, its just that simple.

    The o-line is imposible to minimize, they are crucial on every snap.

  • YoungAmerican

    The defense and special teams were there early in the season, and they barely eeked out some wins against mediocre teams, and lost in embarrassing fashion to Seattle.

    The defense and special teams are always good with the Bears. But the offensive line giving Cutler enough time to make throws and opening up the running game is why they’re anywhere close to the NFC title.

  • http://tada Florida Pete

    since RMR, mistabrown, richochet aren’t here…

    i’m thinking you’re talking to me…

    if so… piss off…

  • aig-raiders

    Kim Newton is just like Tebow, except in a few areas. He is faster. He is as fast as Tomlinson when LT was drafted. He has a stronger arm than Tebow. However, Tebow is stronger physically.

    yesterday, Kiper projected Kim to go at 10th to the Titans.

  • aig-raiders

    AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
    by PGutierrezCSN
    Oakland hired former Ravens assistant coach Al Saunders as its offensive coordinator.

    good hire!

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  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Alright Al Saunders. I’m glad he wasn’t scared off by Davis’ appearance, whew.

  • Kirk

    251.alex7 Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
    “Ok Mr. Davis, we can either get to the playoffs with a top QB or a top swarming, turnover-producing 3/4 confusing D. Which one will it be?”

    “Naww. Let’s do it with a mediocre QB and a man-to-man defense that can’t swarm to the ball because 7 men are running 7 different directions 2 seconds after the snap.”

    ……………………………………………….

    That’s it in a nutshell.

    We will never be anything without a top ten quarterback.

    I miss Rich Gannon.

  • http://chismetime.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sofia_vergara_01.jpg r8eray

    Official…Al Saunders is our new OC!!

  • OAKlifer

    or piss ON come FP, I would never insult a fan/fellow blogger/Floridian of your stature never sir….but that huntsville guy creeps me out and was on here jawing Double R earlier now MR he is just here to argue!

  • YoungAmerican

    Now for Chuck Cecil as the new Raiders DC…

  • Hunt Eat Raiders

    283.Florida Pete Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
    198.BornInOakland Says:
    January 20th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Oh HELL NO on Ochocinco. I do not want that Twitter addicted little girl in Oakland. He’s a clown act and a fake.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    now this made me laugh…

    ***********

    I am with you 100% FP. We do need a vet poss WR though.

  • OAKlifer

    Yes to Saunders we are starting to get sound football minded people in here I love it!!!!!!

  • PurpleDrank81

    If you guys are gonna watch The Shrine Game….MAke sure you look for Will Rackley and Armon Binns

  • inonewordraider

    for our first pick (round 2) should we go for the best RT?

  • Hunt Eat Raiders

    Raiders tab Al Saunders as offensive coordinator
    Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 20, 2011, 9:17 PM EST
    Raiders Al Davis continues to make the coaching hires that everyone expects.

    Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Davis hired Ravens assistant Al Saunders as offensive coordinator in Oakland.

    Saunders spent the last two years in Baltimore, and is well known for his run in Kansas City from 2001-2005 as offensive coordinator. He also was the head coach of the Chargers from 1986-1988, so he’s almost completed a tour of the AFC West.

    Saunders’ hire was largely expected around the league after Davis tabbed Hue Jackson, who worked with Saunders in Baltimore. Davis has also previously interviewed Saunders for spots on previous staffs.