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Who will be the new defensive coordinator?

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Been working on other assignments (a Hue Jackson piece will be forthcoming next week in print) as well as my weekly column, but will post as news or rumors merit.

As it stands, all the Raiders have confirmed is that John Marshall won’t return as defensive coordinator, something Al Davis conceded at the Jackson press conference. Marshall’s name has even been removed from the coaching roster at Raiders.com.

My understanding is that line coach Jim Michalczik and quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett also will not return, although their names are still listed.

The next major hire for the Raiders will be defensive coordinator, and there aren’t a wealth of names bubbling to the surface. Chuck Pagano, a former Raiders assistant, wound up being promoted in Baltimore and essentially mocked Oakland as even being an option, saying he’d already served a “two-year sentence” in 2005-06. He and Jackson were said to have a good relationship.

Big names such as Jim Mora and Eric Mangini aren’t an option based on their pay scale as well as their aspirations to be a head coach again, which is the last thing Jackson needs in Year 1.

Jay Glazer of Fox Sports had an interesting Tweet a few days back saying it was his believe the Raiders were looking for a coordinator to implement an aggressive 3-4 scheme similar to the one Rex Ryan has with the New York Jets.

It becomes more if a possibility when it moves from the Tweet stage into an actual story. The Raiders have run the 3-4 in their past, but not since they’ve been back in Oakland. And although it’s true middle linebacker Rolando McClain excelled in a 3-4 at Alabama, Kamerion Wimbley was a 3-4 outside linebacker at Cleveland Travis Goethel could make a nice inside companion for McClain in a 3-4, Oakland’s defensive line doesn’t set up that way.

Yes, Richard Seymour has done good things in a 3-4 in New England, provided he returns. Trevor Scott, after ACL surgery, could be an outside linebacker.

But the two most improved players on the Raiders defensive line were Tommy Kelly and Matt Shaughnessy, who combined for 14 sacks, and neither of them has played a lick of 3-4 and both are coming off breakout seasons.

Add to that the most talked-about assistant at the Jackson-Al Davis press conference was defensive line coach Mike Waufle _ a four-man line guy from way back _ and a 3-4 defense, while not impossible, seems at least unlikely.

The Raiders have rarely gone with a big name as their defensive coordinator. When they returned to Oakland it was John Fox, who was replaced by Fred Whittingham, who was replaced by Willie Shaw, who was replaced by Chuck Bresnahan, who was replaced by Rob Ryan, who was replaced by John Marshall.

At no point was there a big shakeup in philosophy. All espoused the philosophy of winning individual matchups with superior athletes and an abundance of man-to-man coverage, and all had a single-deep safety.

There was nothing in Davis’ performance during the Jackson press conference that leads me to believe he’s ready to shake things up philosophically.

The Raiders could promote from within with someone like Waufle or secondary coach Kevin Ross, although the former is an established line coach and the latter has never been a coordinator.

Call me a cynic (as many of you have, and with some degree of accuracy), but when I heard Titans defensive coordinator Chuck Cecil was let go after his defense dropped to the lower third of the league, was among the league leaders in penalties and had given a referee an obscene gesture, the first thing I thought was he could be headed to Oakland.

Other purely speculative candidates?

Green Bay has a pair of potential candidates in former Raiders staffers Winston Moss (inside linebackers) and Darren Perry (secondary). New York Jets defensive backs coach Dennis Thurman worked with Jackson on the staffs of USC (2000) and the Ravens (2008).

I like Green Bay and Pittsburgh Sunday, for what it’s worth, and that’s not much.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Raiders for life

    Yep, I hope that lights a fire under Al’s azzzzzzzzzzzz

  • bigblackdeath29

    rapist nation!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TerrapinRaider

    Man now I really hope Hue gets us in the big game and take it to those damn squeelers. The Raiders just have to reclaim our glory. Can’t put up with this crap any longer. At min 2 more SBs within the next 4 years, PLEASE. Get those SB trophies up just to put a stop to this steeler nation crap!

  • bigblackdeath29

    screw charles woodson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TerrapinRaider

    Steelers lose to Green Bay ..print that!!!

    Gawd damn that steeler nation crap cut deep

  • If Davis would go somewhere and be quite, maybe they could go to the playoff’s, too.

  • Charles Woodson’s going to the Super Bowl!!!

  • TerrapinRaider

    They can only claim nation status because of these ignorant fans don’t know who the real nation is. They are newbees and don’t know understand what the Raiders once were. But we’ll be back. We’ll be back. Hue will put an end to this sht.

  • OAKlifer

    Woodson declared his eligibility for the NFL Draft following his junior season at Michigan and was selected 4th overall in the 1st round of the 1998 Draft by the Oakland Raiders. After Woodson’s first season in the NFL he was named The NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year by the Associated Press. He started all sixteen games, becoming the first rookie Raider since 1971 to do so. Woodson had 64 tackles that season, leading the NFL for defensive backs. He was third in the league in interceptions with five and recorded one interception return for a touchdown as well as one forced fumble.[10] Woodson was named to his first Pro Bowl. In his second season in 1999, Woodson was selected to his second Pro Bowl and was named All-Pro by the Associated Press.[2]

    In the 2000 NFL season, Woodson started all sixteen games of the season but suffered a turf toe injury, which prevented him from practicing.[11] He finished the year with a career high 79 tackles, intercepted four passes, forced three fumbles and recovered one fumble.[10] He was named to the All-Pro team by Sports Illustrated, and second-team honors from the Associated Press.[2] In his fourth year in the NFL, Woodson started sixteen games. This was the fourth consecutive year Woodson played in every game of the season. Woodson finished with two sacks, one interception, one forced fumble and one blocked field goal.[10] Woodson returned punts for the first time in the NFL, returning four punts for 47 yards. He was named to his fourth consecutive Pro Bowl. He made All-Pro teams of The Sporting News and College and Pro Football Newsweekly and the All-AFC squad of Football News.

    Just sayin any body who says this man didnt do his job is a Hack!!! not untill his fourth or 5th season did he indure set backs and we parted ways..earl on he was the man

  • Mistabr0wn

    MR is M.I.A after telling me A Rogers would be beaten by J Cutler.

    The end

  • bigblackdeath29

    sign plex,he`s getting out of prison,good things happen to sport teams with no conscience,and everyone will love us,and we could commit penalty`s with no call from the ref.all we have to do is start being nice to the media.

  • bigblackdeath29

    woodson tanked his last 2 years with the raiders.dranked,smoked and partyed.

  • priesttj

    CWood was as good a pick as you could ask for, He just kinda got into partying at one point but WOW could he play. I’d take a focused CWood over Nnamdi in a heartbeat more physical and the best tackling corner since Rod Woodson.

    M Lonetree
    I’m glad someone else noticed that about KK, there is definitely something wrong there……..

  • # SuicideRaider Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    CWood reminds you of Chaz Schilens???

    I don’t recall Chaz Schilens ever being named Rookie of the Year or making three consecutive Pro Bowls as a Raider. Yeah, he was dinged up his last couple of years here and one could question his desire at times, but if he reminds you of Chaz Schilens you obviously never saw the man play in Silver and Black.
    —————————————————————-
    I’m speaking of the fact that some of the players we have have all the talent in the world but can’t seem to stay healthy. Charles Woodson dinged up the last couple of years? Maybe it is YOU who never saw him play in Silver & Black. Go back and count how many years Woodson actually played the entire season without missing games. I remember Woodson laying down and giving up on the Raiders. Also, Woodson didn’t deserve to go to the Pro Bowl as many times as he did with the Raiders. IMO Nnamdi didn’t deserve to go this year but he did. Look at the stats.

    Woodson
    88-89 16 games
    99-00 16
    00-01 16
    01-02 16
    02-03 8
    03-04 15
    04-05 13
    05-06 6

    There was only 2 years where he missed significant time.

  • Mistabr0wn

    Thats why KK is still on his jock.
    _____

    # bigblackdeath29 Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    woodson tanked his last 2 years with the raiders.dranked,smoked and partyed.

  • 22,000 Season Ticket holders, and people are quibbling about Steeler Nation. Too funny.

    All we get is talk, from Davis and his “people”

  • Mistabr0wn

    tj,
    Did you just take the moral high ground over KK?

    LMFAO!!!

  • Mistabr0wn

    And of course hypocrites & low lifes like you that dont buy game tickets or season tickets piss & moan about the number of season ticket holders & sellouts.

    Stooge.
    ____

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    22,000 Season Ticket holders, and people are quibbling about Steeler Nation. Too funny.

    All we get is talk, from Davis and his “people”

  • Just Fire Baby

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 7:06 am
    So I took the Bears +3.5 and under 44

    And the Steelers -3 and over 39

    *****************************

    I’ll take 3 out of 4.

    Not sure if the line is out yet, but I would put it at Steelers -4.

  • SuicideRaider

    #463- I stand extremely corrected. I think that the last years of his Raider career overshadowed what he did earlier. Just seemed that once he started to have injuries he had no desire to play as a Raider.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I don’t think Bruce will be offered to come back (and I kind of hope he doesn’t), but I don’t agree that he “will be fighting for a roster spot”.

    Anyone watch Todd Collins today? I think Bruce will easily find a #2 gig somewhere around the league and weasle his way into starting a game or two next year.

  • djohnnyg

    452.TerrapinRaider Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 7:14 pm
    This sht is disgusting. Steeler Nation. WTF?

    Why did we have to fall off? This sht is getting ridiculous …now we have to endure hijacking of slogans,etc.

    Steeler nation …man, I almost threw up

    I don’t get being upset about the “nation” stuff. Nearly every team in every sport is using the “nation” thing.

    Heck, I drove by a high school the other day and it said “Viking Nation”, and this is a small high school in a fairly small town.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Charles Woodson might be the greatest Raider I ever watched play.

    Tim Brown was the consistant steady hand, and did some amazing things over the years. Have to give it to him on a lifetime achievement thing.

    But C-Wood in his prime would lock up Tim Brown in his prime. No doubt in my mind.

  • bigblackdeath29

    no desire to play because he was enjoying the night life too much.

  • alex7

    suicide Raider getting owned by the CWood facts.

  • alex7

    JFB,

    Charles Woodson was a better wide receiver than DHB.

    True.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Just heard that Mark Sanchez is the first QB in NFL history with 4 road postseason games with over a 100 QB rating.

  • Mistabr0wn

    Woodson needed a change of scenery nothing more nothing less. It happens to some players on occasion. Oakland wasn’t the best place for a guy who wasn’t 100% dedicated. GB is a perfect fit and the owner doesn’t meddle with the DC there.

  • alex7

    Rodgers just made a good Bears D look silly for the first half (until he got his head dinged)

    Ben and the Steelers run game making the Jets D look lame.

    QB = #1 position in football. D-Coordinator = #2.

  • bigblackdeath29

    if the people on this web sight knew charles woodson when he was with the raiders they would not be bragging on him.

  • big oak boy

    January 23rd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
    no desire to play because he was enjoying the night life too much.

    i know i seen him on a rap dvd at a club called sweet jimmys

  • alex7

    As Woodson and Moss showed, hard to be 100% dedicated when your owner isn’t, and when your talents are being wasted. Can’t say I blame either one for wanting out and flourishing again elsewhere.

    Loved the Ravens D-coordinator’s “I already served my 2-year sentence in Oakland” line.

    Al: I’m hiring you to help ME run this outdated defense, but if we fail I’m blaming and firing you.

  • Just Fire Baby

    How about that Butte College Fighting Roadrunner pride from Aaron Rodgers today??

  • alex7

    I played baseball against Butte College. I remember a deer calmly walking behind the outfield fence during the game. Cool little place.

  • alex7

    Why did it take the Jets 3 quarters to realize you have to spread out and pass against the Steelers? That’s what we’ll have to do next year against the Vikings, Jets, Dolphins, and Bears. Hope we have the horses for that.

  • Thec07

    steeler nation
    ++++++++++

    No such thing…Only one NATION in all the sports world…

  • Mistabr0wn

    Of course none of us are a smart as MR, he is pure genius, ranks up there with KK & tj, no doubt.
    ________

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 16th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    MB, you and every other girl in the country in love with Rogers are going to be very upset next week.

  • alex7

    The Raider “nation” averaged about 35,000 people for home games last year. Sad days.

  • djohnnyg

    272.SnB Production Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    268.J Hill Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
    I’ll take Huff, Bush, and the change on the OL for the 17 million or anything close to that it would have taken to have Nnamdi here. If Nnamdi wants to take the change left over from Huff and Bush, then I’d love to have him.

    =======================================================
    Jhill, sounds good in theory until we are all throwing up profanity filled posts and yelling at the tv at yet another long 3rd and forever completion.

    Nnamdi does something that is special. He shuts down an entire side of the field.

    If the Raiders continue running the man2man as much as they do…they need BAUCE cornerbacks.

    Look at when the Raiders defensive scheme has worked well….its been with very good to dominant cornerbacks that can play that man2man with no help.

    You get rid of Nnamdi, without adjusting scheme, and the pass defense will become the achilles heel that the run defense has been

    And what did that get us for 7 years? 5 freaking wins and 11 freaking losses in our BEST years. He doesn’t tackle, he doesn’t force fumbles. He is great for what he does which is an ability to cover receivers like a blanket, but DOES NOT MAKE TACKLES PERIOD.

    5 wins for seven years? How much worse do we do with out him?

  • big oak boy

    see how big ben got it done that could have been our 2010 #7 pick wtf al we could of got ieye poker brandon spikes

  • Just Fire Baby

    LOL….I played baseball FOR Butte College (00-01).

  • big oak boy

    later i the draft

  • SuicideRaider

    Owned by the fact that he quit on his team and decided there were more important things in his life than staying focused and playing for his team. That BS. As far as the Tim Brown comments, there is no, I repeat NO comparison between the two. Tim Brown is a TOTAL class act. I speak from a personal experience with Tim in Dallas. Too bad more players in the league aren’t like him. HE deserves respect from every Raider fan on the planet.

  • alex7

    no wonder I liked your posts JFB. I played for Shasta College in ’99. Just missed ya.

  • I was wrong about Rodgers, right about Steelers edging out Jets, which is exactly the phrase I used. I didn’t know the Bears’ offense sucked that bad. They play offense like a last place team. I still think the Jets jinxed themselves by not talking as much smack this week. It’s their charm. It’s worked all of this time. Suddenly they go humble and lose.

    Anyhow, MB, Steelers over Packers. And that’s not hyperbolic. Green Bay had trouble putting the Bears away and the Bears offense just stunk. Steelers had trouble putting the Jets away but the Jets are much better than the Bears. Pittsburgh wins next week by 2 scores. I’m saying it. Aaron Rodgers is an overrated media darling, like Brady.

  • Mistabr0wn

    What happened?
    _____

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 16th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Chi beats Green Bay. Green Bay’s too west coast-ish and good defenses always stifle WCO teams.

  • alex7

    Suicide, you’ve never, ever taken it easy for a day or two at a job where your owner was wacky and you were looking to leave asap? Never?

    Tim Brown was great, but he also bad-mouthed every coach on the way out, after whining about him behind his back in the locker room.

  • KoolKell Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    22,000 Season Ticket holders

    ………

    Yikes. That’s bad.

  • I already said I was wrong, MB. I won’t be next week, though. Rodgers isn’t good enough to be Pittsburgh.

  • “beat pittsburgh”