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Who will be the new defensive coordinator?

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Been working on other assignments (a Hue Jackson piece will be forthcoming next week in print) as well as my weekly column, but will post as news or rumors merit.

As it stands, all the Raiders have confirmed is that John Marshall won’t return as defensive coordinator, something Al Davis conceded at the Jackson press conference. Marshall’s name has even been removed from the coaching roster at Raiders.com.

My understanding is that line coach Jim Michalczik and quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett also will not return, although their names are still listed.

The next major hire for the Raiders will be defensive coordinator, and there aren’t a wealth of names bubbling to the surface. Chuck Pagano, a former Raiders assistant, wound up being promoted in Baltimore and essentially mocked Oakland as even being an option, saying he’d already served a “two-year sentence” in 2005-06. He and Jackson were said to have a good relationship.

Big names such as Jim Mora and Eric Mangini aren’t an option based on their pay scale as well as their aspirations to be a head coach again, which is the last thing Jackson needs in Year 1.

Jay Glazer of Fox Sports had an interesting Tweet a few days back saying it was his believe the Raiders were looking for a coordinator to implement an aggressive 3-4 scheme similar to the one Rex Ryan has with the New York Jets.

It becomes more if a possibility when it moves from the Tweet stage into an actual story. The Raiders have run the 3-4 in their past, but not since they’ve been back in Oakland. And although it’s true middle linebacker Rolando McClain excelled in a 3-4 at Alabama, Kamerion Wimbley was a 3-4 outside linebacker at Cleveland Travis Goethel could make a nice inside companion for McClain in a 3-4, Oakland’s defensive line doesn’t set up that way.

Yes, Richard Seymour has done good things in a 3-4 in New England, provided he returns. Trevor Scott, after ACL surgery, could be an outside linebacker.

But the two most improved players on the Raiders defensive line were Tommy Kelly and Matt Shaughnessy, who combined for 14 sacks, and neither of them has played a lick of 3-4 and both are coming off breakout seasons.

Add to that the most talked-about assistant at the Jackson-Al Davis press conference was defensive line coach Mike Waufle _ a four-man line guy from way back _ and a 3-4 defense, while not impossible, seems at least unlikely.

The Raiders have rarely gone with a big name as their defensive coordinator. When they returned to Oakland it was John Fox, who was replaced by Fred Whittingham, who was replaced by Willie Shaw, who was replaced by Chuck Bresnahan, who was replaced by Rob Ryan, who was replaced by John Marshall.

At no point was there a big shakeup in philosophy. All espoused the philosophy of winning individual matchups with superior athletes and an abundance of man-to-man coverage, and all had a single-deep safety.

There was nothing in Davis’ performance during the Jackson press conference that leads me to believe he’s ready to shake things up philosophically.

The Raiders could promote from within with someone like Waufle or secondary coach Kevin Ross, although the former is an established line coach and the latter has never been a coordinator.

Call me a cynic (as many of you have, and with some degree of accuracy), but when I heard Titans defensive coordinator Chuck Cecil was let go after his defense dropped to the lower third of the league, was among the league leaders in penalties and had given a referee an obscene gesture, the first thing I thought was he could be headed to Oakland.

Other purely speculative candidates?

Green Bay has a pair of potential candidates in former Raiders staffers Winston Moss (inside linebackers) and Darren Perry (secondary). New York Jets defensive backs coach Dennis Thurman worked with Jackson on the staffs of USC (2000) and the Ravens (2008).

I like Green Bay and Pittsburgh Sunday, for what it’s worth, and that’s not much.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • bigblackdeath29

    green bay runs a 3-4.

  • SnB Production

    The Raiders need to stick with the 4-3.

    However, they need to play with the same tempo and pressure that we see out of elite defenses like GB, Pitt and others

  • bigblackdeath29

    the raiders blitz more this year than years pasted.

  • bigblackdeath29

    i want more than just man to man.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    bigblackdeath29 Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    the raiders blitz more this year than years pasted.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That’s one of the reasons that Marshall got fired with no replacement in sight.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    bigblackdeath29 Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    i want more than just man to man.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Then you better fire Al Davis.

  • bigblackdeath29

    marshall got fired because he did not do a good job.

  • ENGLANDRAIDER

    SnB Production Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    The Raiders need to stick with the 4-3.

    However, they need to play with the same tempo and pressure that we see out of elite defenses like GB, Pitt and others

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Shaughnessy and Kelly had a good year with the 4-3 and have no experience with the 3-4.

  • bigblackdeath29

    yes fire al davis!!!!!!the guy who owns the team.

  • bigblackdeath29

    but that still does`nt help the 5 safety look against jacksonville.(THE BIG NICKLE)

  • SnB Production

    412.bigblackdeath29 Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    but that still does`nt help the 5 safety look against jacksonville.(THE BIG NICKLE)

    ================================================
    That playcall alone was reason for dismissal.

    Leaving Michael Huff on an island.

    Ridiculous

  • YoungAmerican

    Guess the Raiders will have to wait another couple weeks to interview Winston Moss.

  • bigblackdeath29

    and cable for signing off on it .

  • that Jacksonville game hurt…

    so did SF…

    Phoenix…

  • bigblackdeath29

    jacksonville,cardinals,s.f,miami that`s the division right there.just when 3 out of 4.

  • bigblackdeath29

    i`m wrong 2 0f 4.

  • SuicideRaider

    #110 My mistake. Charles Woodson wasn’t technically a bust but he just couldn’t stay healthy. Reminds me of Chaz. Maybe he can get past all of the nagging injuries and play a full season at his full potential. If Chaz doesn’t pan out do you call him a bust?

  • Guy

    Chaz wont be a bust cause he was a 7th round pick, I dont think there is such thing as a 7th round draft bust.

  • Yeah, why fire Marshall with nobody in sight? Winston Moss?…..weak.

  • M Lonetree

    feets done failed Rex now.

  • M Lonetree

    KK,

    it is obvious that your hatred has other sources than Al Davis. you, for yourself, your hatred for your life as it has become, ma, pa, wife, whatever. no one can have such venom for an NFL owner on a daily basis, week after week, year after year without something very dark and personal as motive.
    buena suerte.

  • Whatever Lonetree. Pray for me, ok?

  • MakeItRain

    Who here wants Dirty Sanchez now? The Jets are looking a lot like we did against Pittsburgh

  • 504 Raider

    385.Guy Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 3:32 pm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY5elGqb7Zc

    CB Brandon Burton vs a 6-5 (I think) receiver. He might be the pick if Asomugha is let go. I would also like to have Baldwin in the 2nd if he drops that far.

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    Is this some kind of joke? That Pitt receiver is pushing Burton around like a rag doll on run plays and bump and run coverage. Burton better hope a cover 2 team picks him.

  • edward teach

    419.SuicideRaider Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
    #110 My mistake. Charles Woodson wasn’t technically a bust but he just couldn’t stay healthy. Reminds me of Chaz. Maybe he can get past all of the nagging injuries and play a full season at his full potential. If Chaz doesn’t pan out do you call him a bust?

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    CWood reminds you of Chaz Schilens???

    I don’t recall Chaz Schilens ever being named Rookie of the Year or making three consecutive Pro Bowls as a Raider. Yeah, he was dinged up his last couple of years here and one could question his desire at times, but if he reminds you of Chaz Schilens you obviously never saw the man play in Silver and Black.

  • 504 Raider
  • MakeItRain

    Chaz Schilens can never be considered a bust just a disapointment, no 7th round pick that see’s playing time is a bust

  • # Guy Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Chaz wont be a bust cause he was a 7th round pick, I dont think there is such thing as a 7th round draft bust.
    ________________________________________________________

    LOL, No I dont think I ever heard about that either =)

  • 504 Raider

    HA HA, Jets just played Al’s D. Tight man coverage and single deep safety.

  • remember when I said its sad that you long for playoffs all season, and then they are boring..

    afair, we have had 7quaters of good football this offseason..

    I hope Jets will score some fast points so we all can sit on the edge of our sofas..

    but a funny stat I have here, when Nick folk doesnt miss a kick, JETS wont win from behind…

  • # 504 Raider Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    HA HA, Jets just played Al’s D. Tight man coverage and single deep safety.
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    Jets have executed better during the season, but thats more or less their standard formation, cover 7..

  • the safety was just waaay out of position.. Nothing like Al D… its based on the bears 4-6 (Buddy D)

  • TerrapinRaider

    Jets got too cute at the goal line. Should have just pounded it in. But that safety may have bailed them out just a tad.

  • TerrapinRaider

    Time isa wastin …they gotta get this thing in the endzone quickly!

  • Nnamdi21

    Our new Def Coord?

    SanJay Lal

  • TerrapinRaider

    Don’t make me puke

  • TerrapinRaider

    The Jets OC should be embarassed. Yes, they scored but he is throwing this game giving them less of a shot to win it. He can’t get the damn plays in fast enough! Its ridiculous!

  • ajoakrader

    steelers in it again just horrible. lets cheer for green bay raider nation

  • ajoakrader

    dont want these punks wining #7

  • TerrapinRaider

    I know I did NOT just hear “Steeler Nation” …OMFG

  • Just Win Baby

    Chicago is where QBs go to die. Jay Cuntler will probably be available next year……I hope he doesnt come here.

  • BoJacks

    WTF is this ‘Steeler Nation’ crud?

    All these wack teams claiming nation status is getting out of hand.

  • TerrapinRaider

    OMFG Not again! Steeler Nation? WTF!

  • ArmChair GM

    What the hell is the Steeler Nation?????

  • TerrapinRaider

    I don’t know what these ball clubs are trying to do. We need to represent and show the real NATION! We have to start winning now. These freakin’ clubs trying to steel everything Raider in our absense.

  • Raiders for life

    “Steeler Nation” coming directly for Rooney? Fck them.

  • BoJacks

    # TerrapinRaider Says:
    January 23rd, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    I don’t know what these ball clubs are trying to do. We need to represent and show the real NATION! We have to start winning now. These freakin’ clubs trying to steel everything Raider in our absense.
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    Bad enough every team is trying to wear Black as their colors…now this

    Same way I feel other teams shouldn’t be waving towels, this ‘false nation’ stuff is getting out of hand

  • TerrapinRaider

    This sht is disgusting. Steeler Nation. WTF?

    Why did we have to fall off? This sht is getting ridiculous …now we have to endure hijacking of slogans,etc.

    Steeler nation …man, I almost threw up

  • TerrapinRaider

    Next thing you know they’re going to be talking about “Rams Nation”

    I know Al is going ballistic

  • SuicideRaider

    CWood reminds you of Chaz Schilens???

    I don’t recall Chaz Schilens ever being named Rookie of the Year or making three consecutive Pro Bowls as a Raider. Yeah, he was dinged up his last couple of years here and one could question his desire at times, but if he reminds you of Chaz Schilens you obviously never saw the man play in Silver and Black.
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    I’m speaking of the fact that some of the players we have have all the talent in the world but can’t seem to stay healthy. Charles Woodson dinged up the last couple of years? Maybe it is YOU who never saw him play in Silver & Black. Go back and count how many years Woodson actually played the entire season without missing games. I remember Woodson laying down and giving up on the Raiders. Also, Woodson didn’t deserve to go to the Pro Bowl as many times as he did with the Raiders. IMO Nnamdi didn’t deserve to go this year but he did. Look at the stats.