Raider presence slim for Super Bowl
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, January 23rd, 2011 at 8:27 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Not a lot of Raiders’ presence for Super Bowl XLV when the Pittsburgh Steelers meet the Green Bay Packers in an appealing pre-lockout finale.
The only player for Raider Nation to have a vicarious attachment to is Green Bay cornerback Charles Woodson, a very good player with the Raiders who became a great one with the Packers.
Other than that, zero. The argument that NFL teams happily snap up the leftovers because the Raiders’ eye for talent will be one to keep quiet about with regard to the Super Bowl.
The Steelers have no one on the roster who played for the Raiders, although cornerback Bryant McFadden is at least the older brother of rookie cornerback Walter McFadden.
Strength coach Garrett Giemont worked for the Raiders from 1995 through 2002 before joining Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers through 2006 and moving on to Pittsburgh in 2007.
Two Green Bay assistant coaches have Raiders connections _ assistant head coach and linebackers coach Winston Moss, who played for the L.A Raiders from 1991 through 1994, and Darren Perry, a defensive backs coach in 2007 and 2008.
Since Moss has interviewed with Al Davis before, and has gone on record as having great reverence for the Raiders’ owner, his name has naturally come up with regard to the defensive coordinator vacancy. Green Bay’s presence in the Super Bowl means the Raiders will be waiting until Feb. 6 before being able to hire Moss, although there is plenty of back-channel opportunities between now and then to size things up.
Championship weekend observations:
– The Raiders were already beginning the process of parting with Tom Cable by the time the Raiders played the Steelers on Nov. 21, as his every-other-week paychecks were being docked $20,000. But any chance Cable had of returning probably evaporated when the Raiders returned from their bye with a head of steam and a 5-4 record and got whacked 35-3 with two weeks to prepare for a game in Pittsburgh.
That led to Cable benching Jason Campbell in favor of Bruce Gradkowski the following week against Miami, and, well, you know the rest.
So the AFC champions had a role in shaping the 2011 Raiders.
– I’ve never been a big Jay Cutler fan. Struck me as being the life of the party in good times and a spoiled brat in bad ones. A guy you’d never look to in an important game or situation.
That said, judging the severity of an NFL injury from the safety of your computer screen or couch is beyond ridiculous. If you’ve ever stood along the sideline of an actual NFL game, and been that close to the violence that ensues with every snap, it would be hard to fault anyone who actually set foot that arena.
And for players to do it on their Twitter accounts, knowing what they know about injuries and the NFL, attests to the problem of instant media. They talk before they think.
– I got the Super Bowl half right, which is better than usual. I had New England vs. Green Bay in my column setting up the playoffs. Leaning toward Pittsburgh as the winner, but I’ve got awhile to make up my mind and put in print, as I’m still hearing about last year when I assured everyone Indianapolis would beat New Orleans.
– Have to give Ben Roethlisberger credit, along with head coach Mike Tomlin and offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, for the way the Steelers closed out the game with two key third-down conversions on pass plays. If those passes fall incomplete, Pittsburgh is getting crucified by every “game management” critic in the mainland United States and beyond.
Instead, it led to Rex Ryan throwing his headset to the ground in frustration.
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January 23rd, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Chances to get a danish player in the NFL again just got a bit better… GO Fighting Illini!!
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:30 pm
# priesttj Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Deion Sanders ruined Phillip Buchanan
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What on earth does that mean?
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
The media (and some in here) are acting like Rodgers is the best, Alex. They’ve already crowned Green Bay. They’re playing the Steelers.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
BFD
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:31 pm
# alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:19 pm
The Patriots QB shredded the Steelers.
Mark Sanchez, once the Jets realized 3 quarters late that you need to throw on the Steelers, passed well against Pittsburgh.
Steeler weakness = pass D.
Packers strength = passing.
No reason Steelers would shut down Rodgers.
How the rest of the game plays out is anyone’s guess. But to think Rodgers will struggle against the Steelers makes no sense.
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well to me it seem you get at this from the wrong angle…
whats important in this SB is,
Steelers ability to run and packers ability to stop it..
btw it seemed to me, Steelers D was pretty good stopping the pass most of the game
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Weird points in Jerry’s article.
Woodson, Chris Carr, PBuc, and Fabian Washington all leave Oakland and play better elsewhere.
And those are DBs, Al’s love position.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Listened to JMac’s interview on xx1090. Nice job! Need to give the local stations some run. Got it right this time with GB and Pittsburgh.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:33 pm
The love affair with Rodgers we’re seeing reminds me of how Jesus was going to carry Kurt Warner and the Cardinals over the Steelers a couple years ago. Looks like Jesus was with Santonio Holmes that day.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
If you’re reading this Al, nice job squashing the Aaron Rodgers for Randy Moss trade a few years back. That would’ve easily made up for one of the worst drafts in Raider history (2005) which never gets mentioned.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Negra, I was just looking at that angle because someone said the Steelers would make Rodgers look bad.
Most good passing teams pass well vs Steelers. Been true for a decade now. You spread them out and that’s your best bet.
The Jets finally gave up on the run late in the 3rd quarter, and passed their way to most of their points once they spread out and threw.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:36 pm
So the Raiders were 5-4, battling for a playoff spot, entering their bye week…
AND AL DAVIS DECIDES IT’S THE PERFECT TIME TO DISTRACT THE HEAD COACH by docking 20 grand weekly.
My goodness, Mr. Davis’ ego knows no bounds.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
GB Pass game: A++
GB Run game: B+
GB Pass D: A++
GB Run D: A+
vs
PS Pass game: B++
PS Run game: A++
PS Pass D: B++
PS Run D: A++
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on paper very tight..
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Davis is scum. Anyone who doesn’t get it at this point…
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Jerry what the heck are you talking about?? Whu the hell cares about that crap.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:40 pm
Yeah, Jerry. Only write about what Priest wants you to write about. After all, this is his blog.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:41 pm
lol
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:41 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Davis is scum. Anyone who doesn’t get it at this point…
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Actually Al Davis is the owner of a storied and respected football team worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
You are just a guy that comes on here to talk about him and his football team about 70% of the time…
I think you are the scum.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Davis started docking Cable the week of the Steeler game, THE game of the year, the biggest game for this franchise in 7 years. Good time for such a distraction. Nice priorities. What a scumbag.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 pm
At least we won’t have to read two weeks’ worth of the media (I’m looking at you, SI’s Peter King) kissing Rex Ryan’s ass…
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Think we could offer a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year plus DHB for Fitzgerald??
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:46 pm
According to priesttj DHb is better than Tim Brown, Cliff Branch, and TO. So tell us why you would make that trade.
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# Demon Raider Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Think we could offer a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year plus DHB for Fitzgerald??
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:46 pm
al davis you are scum!how could you dock cable for beating women and breaking a coaches jaw.what`s wrong with you. this is america where you can rape sombody and play in the superbowl and your team gets called classy for it.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:47 pm
night guys, its nearly 6 AM here, so I will hit the covers…
Night and take care…
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:47 pm
The media (and some in here) are acting like Rodgers is the best, Alex. They’ve already crowned Green Bay. They’re playing the Steelers.
*****
He is a shade better than mike Huff…..
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Al docking Cable had nothing to do with Cable’s behavior away from work.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Re post 19.
That’s a big ass to kiss. On the other hand, or should I say foot, “Can I smell them?”
Who in the hell wants DHB? I forgot. “Get over it. He’s great. Just coach him>” Isn’t that what Al said about Jamarcus? We all know about that experiment.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Al Davis has never, ever parted ways with an employee or player for moral reasons. Never has, never will, and that’s because there isn’t a moral bone in his body. Al is rotten to the core. His only adversaries are those who’ve bruised his ego.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Cuz I’m scum?
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Al quotes:
“Dang it, this Gruden kid is winning and getting credit. How can I muck it up?”
“Dang it, this Kiffin kid doesn’t want to play my silly team-crippling head games, and wants to bring in a legit D-coordinator. How can I muck it up?”
“Dang it, we’re overachieving and getting positive press, and our coach is being mentioned on ESPN for coach of the year votes. How can I muck it up?”
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:53 pm
18.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Davis started docking Cable the week of the Steeler game, THE game of the year, the biggest game for this franchise in 7 years. Good time for such a distraction. Nice priorities. What a scumbag.
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Dang that Mr. Davis for beating his wife, and girlfriend, and Rand Hanson. And Dang Mr. Davis for gitting his freak on all night before. Way to focus Cable!
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:54 pm
Al knew Russell had a drug problem, did nothing to intervene. Cut him to save face.
Al knew of Barret Robbins’ problems, did nothing.
Al knew of Darryl Russell raping women, did nothing.
BTW, Al admitted himself that he docked Cable’s pay for “insurance”, in case of Raider being named in a lawsuit. Of course, that’s a lie, too. But even if it were true, that’s not a moral reason. Even when Al lies he admits his an immoral rodent, only out for his own interests.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:54 pm
alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Well, the Jets did it with Revis. The Steelers with Troy. The Packers with Woodson and Tramon Williams. Bears did it with Urlacher.
You kinda need SOMEONE big-time on D.
Why get rid of your best
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Raider fan always over rates the plodding talent and discounts starts that don’t appear to be “all-in”
Nnamdi is either #1 or #2 in the league and is recognized by opposing players and media as the best in the business.
But Raider fan thinks CJ and Routt or a green Walter McFadden will be able to just slide right in.
Just like Raider fan thought the run defense could get it done with guys like Warren, Sands and other no-names.
Most winning teams have some dominant players…not just average to below average players with a great attitude
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Raccoon, Davis’s transgressions with Cable have nothing to do with him hitting women. Raiders have had plenty of woman beaters over the years that Al’s known about. He couldn’t care less. Al is not a moral person. He’s not good.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:55 pm
I think Ocho would be a good vet for our young wide outs….
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Al Davis has to look in the mirror and ask why he struggles so much finding a decent head coach.
Keeps hiring guys he ends up fighting with.
Hopefully Hue Jackson is the coach that stops the bleeding
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:57 pm
SnB Production Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Al Davis has to look in the mirror
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He probably tries, then vomits. Like the rest of us.
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I wished Oakland had drafted NT Cam Thomas last year instead of Bruce Campbell….
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Like the rest of us who have to look at him, I meant. Not the rest of us who look in the mirror. I look in the mirror and pull my pants down, and I look like Ron Jeremy.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:01 pm
you guys hate al davis.thats why you side with cable for beating women and breaking jaws,you cant seperate the two.being a jerk owner or boss and firing a guy for not making the playoffs are not the same thing.right or wrong cable is gone and a rapist will when the superbowl because good things happen to bad people in this country.just asked ray lewis.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
That’s one fugly dude.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
yeah fabian is doing better sure….pbuc us a perennial pro bowler uh huh and carr is handling those recievers…
the only guy is woodson and he has always had talent….
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Ew. You got long hair, the porno mustache, and a huge gut??
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Al Davis is taking a huge amount of criticism because he’s the one hiring these stiffs.
Again, Hue Jackson is the first legit candidate (at Raider standards) since Norv Turner…and Turner was a pure washout at that time
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
37.Demon Raider Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I wished Oakland had drafted NT Cam Thomas last year instead of Bruce Campbell….
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Perhaps….a 4th round pick won’t kill you.
Its the DHB pick that is really hurting this team. To get no production from a top 10 pick really hurts…
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Norv is purely a OC. He has a good team in SD and he barely won 9 games….
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
but on a football only note i would have kept cable last year and fired him this year.the team underachived in my opinion.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:08 pm
44.SnB Production Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:05 pm
37.Demon Raider Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:59 pm
I wished Oakland had drafted NT Cam Thomas last year instead of Bruce Campbell….
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Perhaps….a 4th round pick won’t kill you.
Its the DHB pick that is really hurting this team. To get no production from a top 10 pick really hurts…
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agreed .thank god ford turned out to be what dhb is not.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:09 pm
I really wanted us to draft Eugene Monroe or BJ Raji instead of DHB….
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Yes Olinesux,
all those guys you mentioned are playing better away from Oakland. Thanks for agreeing.
You don’t just walk onto Baltimore’s D and play for them. Yet Carr got in there and is balling year in and year out.
Fabian wasn’t good enough for us, but played there for years after we traded him. PBuc has started 16 games 3 of the last 4 years.
Simple point is we don’t exactly coach players up.
Why Davis doesn’t value coaching is beyond absurd.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Raider Nation should be rooting for the Packers to win this Super Bowl!
The cheatin dirty rapistberger Steelers don’t need to win another Super Bowl!
However, the early line shows the Pack is favored! Wow….I had to put money on the Pitt money line at +125….it is now down to +100?
The Packers will spread the Steelers out and their WR’s should beat Pitts weak corners and they can run screens and dump offs to the running backs Kuhn, Jackson and Starks who can beat the Steelers bad coverage LB’s in space.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Bigblack,
what could Cable have done better?
He doesn’t run the offense, the defense, or the special teams. He has little say in the philosophy that those units run. He has little to no say in the final roster, the draft, free agency, trades, or play-calling.
To blame ANY Raiders head coach for Raider struggles, when they’re not in charge of ANY of the important things, is silly.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:12 pm
At least then we’d have our LT or a DT to help clog the middle. Maybe drafting Raji would’ve led to us not trading for Seymour, but I think we still would have since we played him at DE that year………
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:13 pm
watch those guys play bro… they always get picked on…wouldnt take them back over our safties playing at cb…
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Why Davis doesn’t value coaching is beyond absurd.
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Probably still lives with the belief he has super bowls teams that beat the eagles and the skins. Lot of those guys really didn’t need to be coached up, just knew how to play. Davis probably still listens to the Everly Brothers.
These are not your fathers Raiders
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:16 pm
WE should sign Lamar Woodley and have him take over for Groves as the SAM backer..
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
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January 23rd, 2011 at 9:17 pm
Davis is spending $150 million in payroll this year in his attempt to get superior athletes all over the field.
Man-to-man 90% of the time is quite expensive.
AND it doesn’t work?? Yikes.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:18 pm
LMN,
A++?!
B++?!
LOL
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
If you don’t know you don’t know so all that’s left to do is spend your life speculating berating and hating.
So much foolish talk says find something worthwhile same fools same cricticisms because they just don’t know.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
The SB Raider teams would be flagged every single play these days….
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Woodley is a system talent.
Put him on another team, and he blends in, becoming average.
That’s the story for almost all Pittsburgh LBers the last decade.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Charles Woodson was the Raider’s best player everyday he put that uniform on.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Priestt,
same criticisms because…
same owner/GM/outdated scheme/run-D problems for 2 decades now.
It’s kinda easy to “know” what the problem is.
What other GM would last through a historic rut like ours.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:23 pm
I have never seen a former Steeler LB on another team…. I don’t know. But I think that Woodley could be pretty beastly….
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:23 pm
pbuc playing for his fifth team in six years, chris carr became a starter after dominique foxworth got hurt, and washington isnt even a starter….
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:24 pm
54.DaRayduh Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Why Davis doesn’t value coaching is beyond absurd.
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Probably still lives with the belief he has super bowls teams that beat the eagles and the skins. Lot of those guys really didn’t need to be coached up, just knew how to play. Davis probably still listens to the Everly Brothers.
These are not your fathers Raiders
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Ha. “Everly Brothers”? Who doesn’t crank up “Bye, bye love” when they’re cruisin’ down the highway? I’m thinkin’ more Oak Ridge Boys than Everly’s. Gotta be a big Neil Diamond fan too i bet.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:25 pm
AD: Herrera. Herrera. Where the hell are you?
H: Sorry, Mr. Davis. I was
AD: I don’t give a damn. Set up another press conference.
H: Mr. Davis, we just had one a few days ago.
AD: I don’t give a damn. Set up another one.
H: Mr. Davis, why?
AD: I need to communicate more with the fans. Besides, I thought I was lookin kind of good with that white shirt, black jacket and the band aid on my forehead. My teeth looked nice and yellow. Kind of like a punk rocker.
H: Mr. Davis, are you sure.
AD: Herrera, shut the f… up and do what I say. I’m feeling fiesty. Get me my viagra and call up Amy.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
51.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Bigblack,
what could Cable have done better?
He doesn’t run the offense, the defense, or the special teams. He has little say in the philosophy that those units run. He has little to no say in the final roster, the draft, free agency, trades, or play-calling.
To blame ANY Raiders head coach for Raider struggles, when they’re not in charge of ANY of the important things, is silly.
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he called every play in a 5-11 season.he took the play calling away from greg knapp and went two games without a touchdown in 98.he some how lost 35-3 to pittsburgh after a bye week,than benched the qb and went and lost to miami.
i will never forget jacksonville(big nickle)if it was`nt his idea he had to sign off on it.and your own words he does not run the offense so why is he here?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Kid you are about as ignorant as they come.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
I think we’ll run a 4-3, 3-4 hybrid next year. That’s why we’re gonna have Moss at DC. Him and Wauffle are gonna combine their knowledge and a love child will be the product of their union…. A 4-3/3-4, punch you in the mouth defense….
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:27 pm
I would like to get Greg Little if he were available late in the 2nd
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Today’s games had some of the worst offensive play calling I have seen.
Nothing clever or confusing. Just drop back to pass and let your quarterback get killed.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:29 pm
lol Mr. Davis’ GM resume:
- Traded our best/smartest coach in the last two decades.
- Wasted two top-10 picks in a three-year span.
- Brought in the following QBs: McCown, Culpepper, Walter, Aaron Brooks, J. Russel, and Culpepper.
Each sports a nifty career LOSING record!
- Constantly have top-5 NFL payroll while losing.
- Berate the coaches I hired once they leave.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:30 pm
70.Demon Raider Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:26 pm
I think we’ll run a 4-3, 3-4 hybrid next year. That’s why we’re gonna have Moss at DC. Him and Wauffle are gonna combine their knowledge and a love child will be the product of their union…. A 4-3/3-4, punch you in the mouth defense….
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than hire someone from baltimore,they all ready run it .
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Gotta get Wiz Kid in the 2nd……
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Priesttj, for a guy whose always wrong, you might be a little more considerate, no?
Priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
So far I’m waiting until I see this fat astard make a single play. He’s doing the same thing I saw him do in the senior bowl nothing. Hightower is running right at them BJ is getting handled.
All you wannabe GM’s, tell me exactly what this guy does that makes you drool over him?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I really think Jarvis Moss is going to be a player for us. With that in mind I’d like to get depth at DT and another TE as well as WR. But as for Moss I just like his length and reach. He is a natural pass rusher he needs to add upperbody strength and he’s got great get off. Like him a lot.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:33 pm
There’s no one left from Baltimore who has the pedigree to be a DC yet, imo.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:33 pm
I’m telling ya you guys would be all over the Raiders if they responded at the post game the way the Bears have after losing to GB today. Talk about being “happy to be there.”
Urlacher: “Nobody expected us to be here”
Tillman: “I wouldn’t say it wasn’t a successful season. Nobody expected us to be here and we were a game away from going to the Super Bowl. Only one team can win it all”.
Substitute Urlacher and Tillman for Seymour and Routt for instance and I have a feeling we would be nailing these guys for that attitude.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Exactly BigBlack.
Davis hired an O-line coach, stretched him too far, took away his responsibilities, then blamed him THIS year when the team improved. Like what did Davis expect out of him?
Just bizarre.
How could Cable “sign off” on a defense he has no say over?
It’s like if I hire you on my football staff, tell you to go stand in the corner all year, then blame you for my failures.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:33 pm
KK for a guy who’s really stupid you might mind your own business………no?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Priesttj, your player evaluations leave something to be desired, no?
Priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
So far I’m waiting until I see this fat astard make a single play. He’s doing the same thing I saw him do in the senior bowl nothing. Hightower is running right at them BJ is getting handled.
All you wannabe GM’s, tell me exactly what this guy does that makes you drool over him?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:34 pm
you mustve forget the three sb wins, countless afc playoff games, bo jackson, ford, aso, mcfadden gannon …. etc etc
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Who cares what the Raider presence is in the Super Bowl? Come on, Jerry. Slim pickings, ay?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Priestt, as long as you think Moss will simply be a passing-down rusher off the edge, then sure.
However, he’s not going to magically add upper body strength 5 years into his career and become worthwhile against the run.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Re-unite Wauffle with Barry Cofield…
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:37 pm
If Pitt wins another SB, I think I’ll puke.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Oline,
is it too much to ask that your GM show a half-decent resume for the last 25 years?
The highlight of the Raiders last 25 years was when Bruce Allen was allowed to GM.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Bears GM Jerry Angelo (after the game): “Well to accomplish what we did this year says alot about the character of our ballclub. We don’t have a tremendous amount of talent on this team but yet here we were in the NFC Championship game”
Imagine a GM ADMITTING he put together a team that doesn’t have alot of talent.
How quick do you think Mr. Davis would be on the phone making arrangements for his departure?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:39 pm
KK show me one player eval that you got right? shut up fool I’ll slap you in a corner when it come sto football because you don’t know anything about it.
You come in here watsing your life away about someone who doesn’t even know you exist. Get a life!!
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Priesttj
If your “film study” of Jarvis Moss is anything like your “film study” of BJ Raji…………well…….
Priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
So far I’m waiting until I see this fat astard make a single play. He’s doing the same thing I saw him do in the senior bowl nothing. Hightower is running right at them BJ is getting handled.
All you wannabe GM’s, tell me exactly what this guy does that makes you drool over him?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:41 pm
There is no Raider presence in the super bowl. Its GB and Pitt. And Al Davis looks like James Dean if he were still alive. Is Al a big Elvis fan?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:41 pm
So the Bears GM let his coaches coach up average talent and win games. Nice.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Anyone for getting Palmer in a Raider uni? I personally don’t see how it could hurt. Campbell, Palmer, and Glasskowski
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Can Al Davis use a computer mouse or anything?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
Raji gets after it and he commands extra blockers and he still gets in the backfield…..
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
KK, you’re sticking to that Raji post tighter than his Colts posts with me!
Priestt, you will be worn out by KK’s repetitiveness. Just a warning.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:43 pm
89.djohnnyg Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Bears GM Jerry Angelo (after the game): “Well to accomplish what we did this year says alot about the character of our ballclub. We don’t have a tremendous amount of talent on this team but yet here we were in the NFC Championship game”
Imagine a GM ADMITTING he put together a team that doesn’t have alot of talent.
How quick do you think Mr. Davis would be on the phone making arrangements for his departure?
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I agree, but it would be hard for davis to arrange his own departure. Not impossible, but highly improbable.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Not to mention his pick-six…
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
Trade for Palmer if the price is right. Why the heck not? Could do much worse in the draft.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
The News,
Palmer’s average season is better than Campbell’s best season.
So yes, he’s an upgrade, but Davis’ ego wants to see JC become someone he isn’t (a good QB), so Davis may get the glory.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
What does Davis do all day? Watch film?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:44 pm
95.KoolKell Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Can Al Davis use a computer mouse or anything?
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He can use a overhead projector.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:45 pm
The Chiefs are 1 and done as far as being atop the AFC West. Charlie Weiss is outta there. Offense will suck donkey balls without him.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Palmer would have been a real possibility last year…. Although we could still trade for him, but it’s unlikely now since we still have Campbell….
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Here’s the deal: We just came off an 8-8 season which was a vast improvement and we are young and talented and on the rise and have shown on any given Sunday we can lay a serious can of whoop azz on alot of teams in the NFL, including playoff teams. We just got rid of a coach who was basically an extended interim coach to bring in a guy who is bright, committed to winning, has proven he can vastly improve an offense, offers continuity for this 8-8 team, and who vows we are ready for the next level.
Why all the doom and gloom? We should all be pumped as heck in expectation for next season. Except for the ones on here who are posing as Raider fans everyday for whatever demented reason spending all their time here even though they can’t stand the team.
There is very good reason to be pumped right now. Is it perfect? No, but looking pretty darn good.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:46 pm
BJ Raji has better hands than DHB.
BJ Raji had the same number of TDs this year as DHB.
We could have drafted BJ and made him play both ways.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:48 pm
DJohnny,
what playoff teams did we lay a whoopass on? The Chiefs? Hahahah.
I think the Titans, Steelers, Jaguars, and Colts game is MUCH more indicative of our true talent level than the AFC West games.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
I agree Alex. Campbell is mediocre. At his best, he’s a good game manager if the running game is on point. At his worst, he’s a piece of hot garbage if the team needs to rely on him.
But never underestimate the desire by Davis to pick up another former great and restore him to glory. Palmer has lit up the league before and Davis might just be getting that game film warmed up as we speak.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:49 pm
KK wo have you gotten right, come on tell enlighten us with your football knoledge who’s the best player rated between 40-50 where should we go i the draft and who will fit our system best. Come on KK get it to us genius?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
I really wanted us to draft Raji instead of DHB…
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Demon Raider Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Palmer would have been a real possibility last year…. Although we could still trade for him, but it’s unlikely now since we still have Campbell….
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Been reading Williamson’s stuff? I personally think Hue Jack isn’t sold on Campbell and might just bring up the case with Davis.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Djohnnyg, I feel good about next season. But that News Conference spooked me. I still see Al Davis is going to be a problem.
God bless the coaches, they’re going to need it. They’ll have to carry Davis all the way.
How is Hue going to respond when he’s disrespected by Davis?
We don’t know that yet.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Raiders’ honest “best-case” scenario for next year.
5-1 in AFC West
3-7 outside AFC West.
(2-8 this year despite cupcake schedule)
We are an 8-8 team again next year unless we upgrade our QB and WR situation, AND bring back most of that core set of FAs.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Your mama as our NT……
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:53 pm
The News,
you are spot on. There is NO WAY Hue is impressed with the QB he benched THREE times this year.
Al Saunders also watched Campbell lose games for him in Washington, where it’s said he dialed down the playbook quite a bit.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:53 pm
FYI
as most of us know (yes I had to look some of this up)
Aaron Rogers was the 24th pick of the 2005 NFL draft;
Raiders drafting 23rd selected Mr. Fabian Washington;
the 25th pick was…guess who?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
DJ what we have in here is a failure to comprehend what has happened or what will.
IOW rampant stupidity.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Definitely need an upgrade at QB. Campbell is Captain Mediocre and Grads is a twig. Boller…well, it’s clear the coaches don’t have much confidence in him as he didn’t even get a shot in the midst of all that turmoil at QB.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Wilfork?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:56 pm
I like Palmer more than Campbell, but what are the odds that we trade for a vet QB for the 2nd year in a row? If Campbell struggles this year and Palmer is still with the Bengals after this season, then I can see it. But I think it’s unlikely that we’ll trade for Palmer given that we just traded for Campbell last year.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:57 pm
Priesttj, just saying, why are you calling everybody stupid, when you post stuff like this
Priesttj Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
So far I’m waiting until I see this fat astard make a single play. He’s doing the same thing I saw him do in the senior bowl nothing. Hightower is running right at them BJ is getting handled.
All you wannabe GM’s, tell me exactly what this guy does that makes you drool over him?
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:58 pm
I agree Alex. Heck, Hue made Campbell this year. His play-calling protected the kid from being exposed most of the time. Other times, well…the kid just got exposed.
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Priesttj Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
DJ what we have in here is a failure to comprehend what has happened or what will.
IOW rampant stupidity.
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You’re the guy who gave us “personal” assurances that the Kiffin/Davis feud was a media conspiracy, C’mon dude.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
I think we should try like hell to sign Vick…
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:01 pm
yeah, Hue quickly figured out what JC was, and called for screen after screen after dump-off after hand-off.
Good coaching that maximized the little that JC brings to the table.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:02 pm
114.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:51 pm
Raiders’ honest “best-case” scenario for next year.
5-1 in AFC West
3-7 outside AFC West.
(2-8 this year despite cupcake schedule)
We are an 8-8 team again next year unless we upgrade our QB and WR situation, AND bring back most of that core set of FAs.
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12-4 who cares who you play.that will be the attitude from hue jackson not the dumb o-line coach.you know the one who played a 6-8 rookie center.another game giving away.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Imagine Vick and DMac on the field together…. That’s a whole lotta speed to account for in the backfield. Vick is a better QB now than he ever was before. Arm is still strong, but he’s a lot more accurate than he was in ATL. Now he’s a pass first QB too…..
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Seems like one of the big concerns here is how we are being perceived by the rest of the world. We all want respect for the Raiders and we were getting it at the end of the season, and then…the Cable firing and the Hue presser/Cable evisceration.
If we continue on our upward swing the wins will come and with it the respect of the media and the “rest of the world”.
Do we really need everybody “else” to give us props and nice, flowery accolades? We never really got it before, but we did get in the past was the respect that comes with being a formidable opponent. We are that right now.
I look at like the more people hate us the better we’re doing. The laughing at us doesn’t feel good but the laughing stops when you get your butts handed to you at the hands of the evil Raiders and we were able to do that at times this year.
Forget the media and the idiot writers who have a pre-disposed agenda against us that gets reinforced whenever Al does something “weird”.
We’re pretty good right now and with Hue Jackson at the helm, does anybody think we’re gonna get worse?
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:04 pm
Raiders are sitting in an excellent position at #48
There are three positions that will have 5 drafted:
OT, CB, DE
four positions that will have at least the top 4 drafted:
WR, DT, OLB, S
five will have top 3 drafted:
QB, RB, C, G, MLB
one position that will have only 1 drafted: TE
(not expecting a P or K drafted in top 50)
thats 47 picks before we draft at #48
Raiders do not have to move up too far anyway to get a top OT,CB,DL this year as after the top ten picks, mock drafts have the next 22 players up and down, in n out,
pending who/how other teams draft of course:
Raiders have a great shot at getting anyone of the following:
CBs J Smith, Colo or others ranked 3-5
Cs Wisnewski, Penn St or Hudson, FSU
Austin, DT, UNC
OTs Gilbert, Sherrod, Carpenter, (Smith of USC they would have to move up to get)
LBs Jones, Rolle, Irving, Foster
or a top 5 RB (not named Ingram)
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:05 pm
TV fitness guru Jack LaLanne died today.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:07 pm
At the ripe old age of 96. Did a good job of keeping himself going.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Bigblackdeath,
who cares who we play?
Ughh, our QB does. Did he have ONE single quality game against the top teams we faced outside our division? Stunk against the Titans, Steelers, Colts, and 49ers. He was 1-5 outside our east AFC West.
So yes, JC cares who we play.
He won’t magically change his career losing record and lead us to victories over the AFC East and NFC North.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:11 pm
Fans are burning Cutler jerseys in Chicago.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:12 pm
With Desmond Bryant becoming a legit NFL player this year, I don’t see the Raiders using their first pick in the draft on a DT that would be 4th in our rotation.
They will either take the best available WR, OLB, RT, or C
Or they can take the TCU QB and have a shot at a legit NFL QB for a change.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:12 pm
Alex
If JC has a good season next year and the Raiders make the playoffs, will you show up here under another name?
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Charles Woodson was the Raider’s best player everyday he put that uniform on.
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Nope. Nice try though;)
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:13 pm
I didn’t realize Cutler let Aaron Rodgers slice the defense down the field and score 2 TDs in the first 20 minutes.
The Packers pass D is kinda really good.
Ask Vick.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:16 pm
KK, I already stated I was willing to bet $100 to a few posters that said we’d go 12-4.
If Campbell magically has his best season ever next year at age 30, and we overcome the Jets, Patriots, Packers, Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, and Lions to win more than 9 games, I’ll just send you $100 out of sheer wowness and joy.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:16 pm
the 25th pick before and after Aaron Rogers by Green bay was…
Washington’s selection of Mr. Jason Campbell.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:16 pm
I’m going with Green Bay to win it all. I said so before the playoffs and so far so good.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Priesttj
We had your personal assurances that the Davis/Kiffin feud was a media conspiracy. (Adam Sheffer perhaps)
Your “film study” showed BJ Raji as a Bust.
Your “film study” of DHB put you in mind of Jerry Rice.
C’mon man you might want to be a little more circumspect before you start calling people ignorant.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:17 pm
was trying to be ironic with before and after
Washington by the Raiders 23rd
Washington’s selection of Jason now with the Raiders with the 25th
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Can I get in on the 100 bucks, Alex??
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Shut up KK until you challenge me on anything concerning football just shut up. I’ve don ethings you’ll only DREAM about…….period
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Raiders need to get two of the following FAs:
Woodley
Hali
Ngata
Gaither
Mankins
Light
Rice
and resign Mr. Seymour, Mr. Bush or Mr.Asomugha
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Packers strength is Pittsburg’s weakness
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Am I the only one who wants Vick at QB?
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:25 pm
Demon, sure! I’ll put my word on it, you put yours, and we can meet up at the end of next year.
What is it on, 10 wins? I take the under.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:25 pm
108.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:48 pm
DJohnny,
what playoff teams did we lay a whoopass on? The Chiefs? Hahahah.
I think the Titans, Steelers, Jaguars, and Colts game is MUCH more indicative of our true talent level than the AFC West games.
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Well, if you laughed at the Chiefs then you’ll laugh even more when I mention Seattle.
I also consider SD a playoff “caliber” team who we beat twice.
The glass is half empty with you obviously.
Do we need work? Definitely, but I think there’s alot of reason for optimism.
Such great fans we have in here.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:26 pm
I do not mind if the Raiders get Palmer… for a back up and at a back ups salary.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Demon,
you’re the only one that thinks Vick is available.
Speaking of,
why do some of you think Ngata won’t be franchised or re-signed by the Ravens?
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Priesttj Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Shut up KK until you challenge me on anything concerning football just shut up.
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What did I just challenge you about, tidly winks? lol
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 pm
133.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Bigblackdeath,
who cares who we play?
Ughh, our QB does. Did he have ONE single quality game against the top teams we faced outside our division? Stunk against the Titans, Steelers, Colts, and 49ers. He was 1-5 outside our east AFC West.
So yes, JC cares who we play.
He won’t magically change his career losing record and lead us to victories over the AFC East and NFC North.
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i`m not a big campbell fan.just a anti cable fan.12-4 with hue jackson.as long as campbell is the best qb on the team i will support him.but cable is gone thats worth 4 victories.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Raiders need to draft either Stanzi or Traylor with a 4th/5th round pick
either Pettis, Boise St. or Matthews, Oregon should be available in the 3rd round
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:27 pm
131.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:05 pm
TV fitness guru Jack LaLanne died today.
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I was gonna order the juicer he was selling on late night TV.
He can forget about it now.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:28 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Raiders need to get two of the following FAs:
Woodley
Hali
Ngata
Gaither
Mankins
Light
Rice
and resign Mr. Seymour, Mr. Bush or Mr.Asomugha
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How about signing Woodley, Mankins, and Rice….
As well as Seymour, Aso, Bush and Miller as well…..
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:28 pm
RR,
Palmer to Campbell…
“Sure JC, I’ll tell you all about what the playoffs feel like.”
“Sure Jason, I’ll explain to you how to read a pre-snap blitz.”
“Of course Jason. I’ll teach you how to get your WRs involved.”
“Yes Jason, it is ok to throw an INT once in a while as long as you’re actually causing damage with your completions.”
“Yes JC, I’ll show you how to not pee your pants vs the Steelers. Wait, why am I backing you up??”
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:29 pm
5 victories,
Tenn, Hous, AZ, SF, Miami
make that six
Jax
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:29 pm
DJ what did I say earlier we have Raider naysayers in here they hate the owner and the team IMO.
Come in here only to drag the place down.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:30 pm
lol Demon. Can’t tell if you’re serious, but that would make our payroll be about $200 million.
We turned into the Yankees. Except for the whole winning part.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Blame Cable for:
- JC’s disappearing act vs Tennessee.
- Janikowski’s miss vs AZ.
- Our D’s inability to stop Arian Foster
even though Andre Johnson was out.
- JC’s disappearing act vs the 49ers.
- Our D giving up 220 rushing yards vs Jax.
Interesting power we give to Mr. Cable around here.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:34 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Raiders need to get two of the following FAs:
Woodley
Hali
Ngata
Gaither
Mankins
Light
Rice
and resign Mr. Seymour, Mr. Bush or Mr.Asomugha
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How about signing Woodley, Mankins, and Rice….
As well as Seymour, Aso, Bush and Miller as well…..
Ngata would cost too much… But he’d be great…..
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Alex I would much rather spend the money on:
Woodley,
Woodley
Hali
Ngata
Gaither
Mankins
Light
Rice
but if we are going to go after a veteran QB,
hell let’s make a go after FA Peyton Manning
pass on Vick even
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:36 pm
what are you saying cable is a good coach?
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:37 pm
I wonder how big of a contract Vick would want…..
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Ngata will hear the horror stories from his D-coordinator that already blasted us this week. And he’ll likely be franchised.
Mankins has been part of an organization that lets coaches coach, and the owner stays out of it. They won a lot. He’ll avoid this place. Too young to care about any 1970s mystique.
Hali will be franchised.
Woodley, sure, but don’t expect much out of those Steeler LBs. Usually are average when they leave that system.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Peyton would command a contract in excess of 100 million, easy. Vick would likely only cost a third of that.
What if we tried to sign Ngata over Seymour?
I wonder if we talked to Aso and Seymour about signing smaller contracts so that we can sign other good players, if they’d be willing to do it….
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Bigblack,
I’m saying that the fault lays on the GM for the product he puts on the field, not on the coach that has 2% input into what happens on Sunday.
The blame falls on JC, the WRs, the OLBers, and the O-line.
Or on the man that signed all those players.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Demon I see us resigning Seymour,
Bush goes to highest bidder, he will be starting for another team, even Al knows it
Nnamdi is going to play opposite Revis next season, after being just one step beyond the Super Bowl three years in a row, Jets will pay top $$$ to have the two best CBs on their team. (Gholsten you’re getting cut).
LT, Taylor, and Richardson odds are at least 2 of those will retire- Jets will have the dough.
So it’s Seymour, Woodley, Hali, and Mankins (Al will pay him more than he will pay Gallery), Mankins will be a better teacher for Vehldeer and Campbell.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Peyton is worth 3 times Vick.
Vick will get you 10 regular season wins, then be confused by legit playoff Defenses.
Manning will get you 10 regular season wins AND a chance at winning post-season games. Manning would make our WRs look like stars.
He’s never had a running game like ours.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:43 pm
mankins likes money which n.e. will not give him.the team that pays him the most will win.
p.s.when are all the experts going to say the raiders got the best of the seymour trade.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm
I disagree about Mankins. His family owns a ranch in Chowchilla. He’s a real family guy. I think he’d be willing to sign with us. Especially since his former teammate, Seymour, wants to re-sign with us.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm
By signing Woodley, Hali, and Mankins; Raiders make the top 3 teams that won their division weaker.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Al Davis is both the best and the worst thing about the raiders.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Veteran WR Raiders should make an offer for
Reggie Wayne, there is a quite a bit of disharmony in Indy.
Raiders might be able to get him for a 3rd or even a 4th and a player.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:46 pm
RR,
If Mike Tolbert of the Chargers was a free agent, would teams be waiting in line to offer him a starting job?
All Tolbert did was outproduce Bush this year. Same body type, same skill-set, healthier non-metal leg.
Just curious if we’re looking at Bush through seriously pink fan glasses.
Bush had 15 or more carries against the 49ers, Chargers, and Broncos and didn’t do much. One big game vs Chiefs, and we’re acting like the NFL can’t wait to throw millions at him despite the fact most teams are going to a 2-man backfield and no-names like the Packers RB can be plugged in to produce at minimum pay.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:47 pm
I guess the lock out is imminent. Or is Jerry just being his old cynical self?
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
169.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:41 pm
Bigblack,
I’m saying that the fault lays on the GM for the product he puts on the field, not on the coach that has 2% input into what happens on Sunday.
The blame falls on JC, the WRs, the OLBers, and the O-line.
Or on the man that signed all those players.
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you only left out the te,backs on offense .hue jackson is great too score all those pt`s with scrubs.yes cable gets credit for 2% of the pt`s with his 2% input.12-4 next year without the dumb avg.o-line coach.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
164.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Alex I would much rather spend the money on:
Woodley,
Woodley
Hali
Ngata
Gaither
Mankins
Light
Rice
but if we are going to go after a veteran QB,
hell let’s make a go after FA Peyton Manning
pass on Vick even
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I’m with you on Mankins, Ngata. I’, not sure were Light would play but he should be an upgrade @ rt.
Hali would be awesome, but I don’t think this team is in a big hurt for pass rushers.
Woodley… O yeah.
Rice prob too $$$$
No to Gaither. the injury thing.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Mankins is from Chowchilla, CA
Welcome home Mankins!
If Raiders resign Seymour we sign Mankins!
or is it the other way around?
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:49 pm
RR,
you think NONE of the other 31 teams would offer a 2nd rounder for Wayne? Patriots would. Chiefs would. Bears would. Ravens would. Jags might.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
173.Demon Raider Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:44 pm
I disagree about Mankins. His family owns a ranch in Chowchilla. He’s a real family guy. I think he’d be willing to sign with us. Especially since his former teammate, Seymour, wants to re-sign with us.
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you guys opinion of athletes are too high.money,money money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Assuming than there will be franchise tags in the new CBA, Hali will likely be tagged KC. Same goes for Ngata. Niners Aubrayo Franklin would be a good NT to get. I think Aso will be back, as will Miller, Bush, Wimbley and Seymour.
RT Ryan Harris is very underrated and he’d be pretty cheap. CB Richard Marshall would be a good young player to have opposite of Nnamdi. Woodley couldn’t possibly be worse than Groves at SAM.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Bigblack,
How many points did we put up against legit D’s like the Colts, Steelers, 49ers, Dolphins, and Titans?
I would LOVE to see you bet the over next year when Vegas puts the Raiders wins at 8.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Interesting thing about this year, is that the draft might (probably) come before FA signings and trades.
Should the Raiders get the opportunity to draft Austin DT, J Smith CB or T Smith OT that would greaty affect who they go after in FA market.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Bigblack,
exactly what top free agents have we been able to lure over here with $ the last few years?
Still waiting…
Langston Walker!
Your rep is quickly fading.
Players stay away from us.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:56 pm
Alex I would give up our 2nd for Reggie Wayne in a heart beat.
I’m not Al, you are correct, other teams would especially NE, although I do not think Indy would trade Wayne to NE, Indy may not see Raiders as much of a threat though.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:57 pm
Bigblack, what I was saying was that his family in CA could very well be the swaying factor if we get in a bidding war with another team. He played for NE cuz they drafted him. If he could choose where to play, I am sure that he’d want to be close to home. I didn’t say we could throw pennies at him and he’d be ok with it just cuz of his family. The offer has to be right too.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Mr. Wimbley will be back, take it to the bank or better yet Las Vegas, at least the Casino’s are honest in letting you know they are trying to con you out of your money.
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:59 pm
184.Demon Raider Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Assuming than there will be franchise tags in the new CBA, Hali will likely be tagged KC. Same goes for Ngata. Niners Aubrayo Franklin would be a good NT to get. I think Aso will be back, as will Miller, Bush, Wimbley and Seymour.
RT Ryan Harris is very underrated and he’d be pretty cheap. CB Richard Marshall would be a good young player to have opposite of Nnamdi. Woodley couldn’t possibly be worse than Groves at SAM.
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Ryan HArris would be a good fa pick up. WoodLayer is a big upgrade over Groves. I like Groves, but Wood is a stud, and plays the run way better.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:00 pm
alex7 Says:
you play 16 games.just like every team in the nfl.some good ,some bad, the raiders avg 25 pt`s a game played by the same rules as everyone else.gave up 23 a game.it can not be hue jackson gets no credit but marshall gets no blame.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Al is looking to pay three players 4-8 million dollars
Nnamdi’s salary split three ways in various allotments
and still plans to resign Seymour around $10 million
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Groves provides great depth for the Raiders made some big plays on D at DE and OLB late in the season.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Couldn’t agree more w/ florio. The new conference championship trophies are hideous. shouldn’t have messed around w/ the originals.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/conference-championship-10-pack/
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:03 pm
We know we have the rookies Mr. McClain and Mr. Goethel; we are solid at the MLB position.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Would love to be in the Raiders War room this year!
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:04 pm
Bigblack,
for the most part, I blame JC.
Sure, 25 a game is nice. But were you consistent in that average? Unfortunately, every time you get a meltdown game from your QB, it’s very likely a loss.
And JC gave us FOUR complete meltdown games (Tenn, StL, SF, Pittsburgh, and Indy.
Hard to win games when your QB shoots himself in the foot 1 out of every 4 games. Won’t get much easier w/ next year’s Ds he has to face.
So all 25 point averages aren’t created equal.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:05 pm
I am of the opinion that we should trade some of our higher picks to get young vets and just draft from like rounds 3 thru 7…. That’s where we have the most draft success anyways. Sign Mankins and trade a 2012 1st and a 2012 3rd for Mangold would set our OL for years. Draft C/G Stefan Weisnewski for RG and move Campbell to RT maybe.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:05 pm
NFL draft is three days this year, correct?
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:06 pm
we will need our 2nd round pick to get Wisnewski, no way he lasts till the 3rd.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:06 pm
we only have one pick in each rounds of 2nd thru 7th.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Fans forget quickly, but you know how ugly Cutler looked against the Packers?
That’s what JC gave us FIVE times this year.
And he only started THIRTEEN games!!!
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:07 pm
187.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Bigblack,
exactly what top free agents have we been able to lure over here with $ the last few years?
Still waiting…
Langston Walker!
Your rep is quickly fading.
Players stay away from us.
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you listen to the media too much.the same one that says cable the jaw breakin woman beater is a good coach because hue got him too 8-8.yes hue did it.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:09 pm
Keep our 2012 1st round pick, we must- alot of top underclassmen stayed for their senior year.
Barring injury, Luck is the number one overall pick next year.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:09 pm
alex7 ,
you got a better qb to play and don`t name someone on another team .
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:09 pm
All this talk about O-line.
The Bears, Packers, and Steelers O-lines were all deemed horrible this year.
Amazing what a good QB that gets rid of the ball can overcome.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Black,
you failed to tell me what top free agent we’ve been able to convince to come to Oakland.
Blaming the media is boring. Show me who took money from us and left another team to come here.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:11 pm
is Hanie an RFA
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Keep this year’s 2nd round pick but trade this year’s 3rd and 2012’s 2nd rounder for Fitzgerald. Sure we might not have our first 3 2012 picks, but would they have gotten us guys comparable to Mangold and Fitzgerald??
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:12 pm
194.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Groves provides great depth for the Raiders made some big plays on D at DE and OLB late in the season.
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Yes he did, and he should stay, as a starter, or back-up.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:13 pm
John Henderson. He canceled his trip with KC to sign with us.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:13 pm
We have top players AND top coaches laughing and declining us.
Those are facts.
Also, why can’t I ask for a QB from another team? Isn’t that what we just did last year? Now it’s not allowed? Odd.
Shoot, Andy Dalton could probably step in next season and duplicate Campbell’s 19th-ranked 12 TDs, 8 INTs, league-leader in sacks contribution from this year.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 pm
players know the momentum has shifted for the Raiders, that they are on the cusp of being in the playoffs,
players know they will get paid by Al,
players respect Hue and Saunders, Wauffle as well
they will come
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 pm
V Jackson would love to stick it to SD
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 pm
John Henderson is now, at his age, considered a top free agent?? He came to be a 3rd DT.
Only Oakland fans list that as a top free agent move.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Groves will be a back up cuz we will sign Woodley,dammit….
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 pm
Rice has no clue who his QB is going to be in Minn
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:15 pm
201.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:06 pm
we will need our 2nd round pick to get Wisnewski, no way he lasts till the 3rd.
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It may be a good year to use our 2012 1st rounder to get Wisniewski in the 1st, and use our second on the best wr, or O-line avalable.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:16 pm
I would trade our next two #1’s for Larry Fitzgerald immediately!
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Agreed RR, though if I was him, I’d go to KC where the QB actually has his WRs put up numbers and wins.
But yeah, I’d be all for Jackson.
Ocho and Pettis (Boise St.) are backup plans.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:16 pm
A7 is correct. For the past 7 years, we’ve been so bad that players do not want to come here. For all that spin bs job on Seymour, it was obvious he didnt want to be here when he got traded. I dont blame him either.
However, all that is changed now. I think this season we showed that there is something good brewing here.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:17 pm
215.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 pm
V Jackson would love to stick it to SD
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That would go a long way to fix our wr problem.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Oh, top free agent? Didn’t see the top part.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:17 pm
220.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:16 pm
I would trade our next two #1’s for Larry Fitzgerald immediately!
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Yes yes yes… you are a smart man RR.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Rice would be franchised. No other solid O guys are FAs in Minny.
Cardinals will find a QB (Palmer) and keep Fitz. Palmer has Whisenhunt AFC North connection.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:19 pm
With a real NFL wr, and a good kick in AZ, we are in the 2010 playoffs. We could have beat all the teams that made it… well maybe.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Woodley McClain Wimbley
(with Goethel, Groves, and rookie Matthews as backups)
now that would be a linebacker corp
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:20 pm
Aig,
that’s what was so dumb about the Davis press conference.
His ego wouldn’t allow him to simply introduce our new coach and be done with it. Keep that momentum going.
Instead, he hogged the attention, gave a Kim Newton quote, cussed out a young employee, trashed a head coach HE HIRED, and cost us value as a franchise over a measly $120,000.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:20 pm
VJax would be great, but Rice would be cheaper and almost as good.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:21 pm
I agree Alex, Rice will be franchised, I see Palmer going to AZ, SF, or Minn
Cincy will be a completely different team next season, as Ocho, TO, and possibly even Benson are gone
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Rice has less baggage than V Jax ( one mistake away from year long or life time suspension)
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Re-sign John Henderson and sign Pat Williams. Sign both to 2 year deals. That’s a massive rotation of old guys.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 pm
alex7 ,
what top free agent does pittsburgh have or n.e.,green bay(charles woodson 5 years ago) what does it matter.the team is on the rise you might not give them credit but scoring points is a good thing and a start.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 pm
NE was completely wrong in not resigning Richard Seymour, they have not won a Super Bowl since and they cannot even stop a nose bleed!
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Racoon, agree with your first point.
Disagree BIG TIME with your second one.
Losing scores the last time we played these playoff teams:
(all in the last 3 seasons, including this one)
Steelers 35-3
Giants 44-7
Jets 38-0
Saints 34-3
Falcons 24-0
Colts 31-26
Ravens 21-13
Patriots 49-26
We tend to get BLOWN OUT by legit playoff teams most of the time.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Bigblack,
those teams have SYSTEMS so they can develop their own talent.
We have no SYSTEM so we NEED free agents. Big difference.
And again, if you can’t score against the good teams you play, what good is it scoring 59 on Denver, 33 on Seattle, 35 on San Diego, and 39 on Denver again to pad your season stats?
It’s what you do against good teams that matters.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Alex7,
Yeah I was going to post something on that bizarre presser too. We were doing well until Al has to remind the whole professional nfl world that he still runs a frickin bizarre operation in Oakland.
On another note, a lot of folks on here have been giving credit to Hue Jack for our resurgence and ignoring the rest of the coaches. I find it interesting that Mike Tomlin does not own the offense nor D in Pitt. Yet his team is winning. There’s a whole lot more to X’s and O’s for a HC. The HC sets the attitude of the team.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 pm
colts 31-26 is blown out.pittsburgh is this year.the rest is cable.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:31 pm
WE should sign Tolbert if we don’t re-sign Bush…..
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:32 pm
235.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:25 pm
NE was completely wrong in not resigning Richard Seymour, they have not won a Super Bowl since and they cannot even stop a nose bleed!
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I agree. They got pushed around by the Jets. That’s what Big Sey brings to the table. In 2 seasons here, he has been able to get the boys at teh Dline to improve and bring that nasty attitude with them. We got ways to go but Big Sey sets the tone. Tommy Kelly has already benefited from being around Big Sey.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:33 pm
in our 8 losses, we gave up an AVERAGE of 175 rushing yards.
That’s been our problem for 2 decades.
That is Al’s fault, not whoever he handcuffs as our DC.
If he allows our new DC to run whatever the heck he wants, he redeems himself.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Black,
what was confusing about “most” of the time we play playoff teams, we get blown out. All of them on the list except for 1, and honestly the Colts game wasn’t even that close. Garbage time TD late in the 4th quarter to make it closer.
Cable’s fault for not having a QB or defensive scheme that can do jack against a playoff team?? lol, again, the power you guys give Cable is amazing!
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 pm
237.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Bigblack,
those teams have SYSTEMS so they can develop their own talent.
We have no SYSTEM so we NEED free agents. Big difference.
And again, if you can’t score against the good teams you play, what good is it scoring 59 on Denver, 33 on Seattle, 35 on San Diego, and 39 on Denver again to pad your season stats?
It’s what you do against good teams that matters.
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once again every team in the league plays by the same rules,but only the raiders math matters too you.n.e. runs the score up every chance they get.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 pm
1997, we had a very good offense but one of the worst D in the league. No name guys like Fred Lane ran all over our ass. The next season we brought in Willie Shaw and he ran his own system. We improved dramatically and Al let him go the next season.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:37 pm
237.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:28 pm
Bigblack,
those teams have SYSTEMS so they can develop their own talent.
We have no SYSTEM so we NEED free agents. Big difference.
And again, if you can’t score against the good teams you play, what good is it scoring 59 on Denver, 33 on Seattle, 35 on San Diego, and 39 on Denver again to pad your season stats?
It’s what you do against good teams that matters.
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and the raiders have good young talent that they drafted.seymour and campbell by trade give them some credit.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:38 pm
243.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Cable’s fault for not having a QB or defensive scheme that can do jack against a playoff team?? lol, again, the power you guys give Cable is amazing!
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Cable didnt own the offense either. Hue owned the WR and QB. 5 out of 8 losses we were a no show on offense. Hue said he owns the offense but everyone likes to blame it on Cable for some reason.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Black,
just like Aig said, when your QB doesn’t show up for 5 games, that kills a season.
Patriots run up the score. Fine, but they dont have 5 games a season where Brady lays an egg.
Our QB for his CAREER has about 4 games a season where he simply lays an EGG. And he was on talented Redskins teams that made the playoffs twice without him.
Can’t make the playoffs with him.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Minny will tag either Rice or Greenway, who has become a very good 4-3 OLB. I think whoever they don’t tag is who we should sign.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:42 pm
pittsburgh blow out the jets today.24-19 a real stanford routt by 5 pt`s.don`t know how the jets can live with them selfs.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:45 pm
i`m not a campbell fan(o.k. in my book) but please tell me who you would play.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:46 pm
later boys.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:47 pm
228.RaiderRetribution Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:19 pm
Woodley McClain Wimbley
(with Goethel, Groves, and rookie Matthews as backups)
now that would be a linebacker corp
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Not too sure about Goethel as a BU. Nit very fast, not very strong, not very instinctive, not a good back up. But I may be wrong.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:48 pm
new england should have never traded seymour?
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:49 pm
236.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:26 pm
Racoon, agree with your first point.
Disagree BIG TIME with your second one.
Losing scores the last time we played these playoff teams:
(all in the last 3 seasons, including this one)
Steelers 35-3
Giants 44-7
Jets 38-0
Saints 34-3
Falcons 24-0
Colts 31-26
Ravens 21-13
Patriots 49-26
We tend to get BLOWN OUT by legit playoff teams most of the time.
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Yeah with a real NFL WR do you think those games would be the samr score? I am not talkin about games played before 2010. In 2010 we were a real NFL WR form the being a playoff team.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Greenway in Groves place, and a year of ex for our young d-line guys…… man that would be good.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 pm
and a real coach.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 pm
I dont think our line is nearly as good without Seymour. He comands respect, and these guys respond to him. He is the perfect roll mod 4 young Houston.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 pm
257.bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:52 pm
and a real coach.
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Word, and check.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Dirtee,
THIS year
Blowout by the Steelers 35-3
Blowout by the Titans 38-13
Blowout by the Dolphins 33-17
All of those games, two things can be said.
Our QB play was HORRENDOUS
Our run D was HORRENDOUS.
Thank you Al Davis for scrap heap starting QBs and outdated D schemes that get run on for 2 decades in a row.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:56 pm
lol Black.
again, what would a “real” coach have done this year, when they had no say in the O, D, ST, or roster?
“Pumped up” the team more?
Hue ran the O completely!
Davis and Marshall ran the D completely!
What would Mike Tomlin have done here if he isn’t allowed to do anything his way? Nada.
Davis doesn’t WANT a real head coach. He traded the only one we’ve had in Oakland in two decades.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:56 pm
the jets and bears made this far with scrap heap qb play.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:58 pm
you keep posting like the Oakland Raiders head coach has ever had much authority or say in matters.
Twice a coach has come in here and demanded a change in style, increase in accountability, quality assistants, a change in the way things are done, and didn’t give a rat’s butt about our “mystique”.
Gruden and Kiffin. Both were shipped out.
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:58 pm
so al davis coached the team too 8-8.wow!!!!!!!!!!
January 24th, 2011 at 12:00 am
You do realize “scrap heap” Cutler just had a better season than Campbell has EVER had right?
Nah, you probably don’t realize that.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:01 am
gruden was good.kiffin sucked.so what i liked gruden too but he ain`t walking through that door,and if he did cable would break his jaw!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 24th, 2011 at 12:01 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Raider Nation should be rooting for the Packers to win this Super Bowl!
The cheatin dirty rapistberger Steelers don’t need to win another Super Bowl!
………….
I don’t care if Roethlisberger raped the Queen of England. I’m still rooting for the Steelers. I can only imagine the media circle jerk if Rodgers wins it, which could only happen if the refs give it to them, anyway.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:01 am
Sanchez a scrap heap QB?You guys get more ridiculous by the minute.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:02 am
260.alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Dirtee,
THIS year
Blowout by the Steelers 35-3
Blowout by the Titans 38-13
Blowout by the Dolphins 33-17
All of those games, two things can be said.
Our QB play was HORRENDOUS
Our run D was HORRENDOUS.
Thank you Al Davis for scrap heap starting QBs and outdated D schemes that get run on for 2 decades in a row.
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With a real wr we would have scored more points. When our O scores early we played much better. and Yes our QB sucks.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:02 am
drunk cutler had a slightly better year.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:03 am
so in BigBlack’s world, it was
Jon Gruden’s fault
Bill Callahan’s fault
Norv Turner’s fault
Al Shell’s fault
Lane Kiffin’s fault
Tom Cable’s fault
but not Al Davis’ fault, because ALL HE DOES is run the draft, free agency, trades, roster cut-downs, hires the head coaches, approves assistants, and installs the philosophy on defense.
Got it.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:05 am
267.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:01 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Raider Nation should be rooting for the Packers to win this Super Bowl!
The cheatin dirty rapistberger Steelers don’t need to win another Super Bowl!
………….
I don’t care if Roethlisberger raped the Queen of England. I’m still rooting for the Steelers. I can only imagine the media circle jerk if Rodgers wins it, which could only happen if the refs give it to them, anyway.
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at least your keeping it real.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:05 am
267.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:01 am
DKnight007 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Raider Nation should be rooting for the Packers to win this Super Bowl!
The cheatin dirty rapistberger Steelers don’t need to win another Super Bowl!
………….
I don’t care if Roethlisberger raped the Queen of England. I’m still rooting for the Steelers. I can only imagine the media circle jerk if Rodgers wins it, which could only happen if the refs give it to them, anyway.
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So why should we care if Cable beat his wife, or Russell tape himself doin drunk girls, or if Jano takes GHB and touches himself, or if Jafata ss dirks the purp?
January 24th, 2011 at 12:06 am
in alex world jets got blown outr by 5 pt`s.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:07 am
How in the world did we score so many points on O with sorry qb’s, shoddy D, NO good wr’s, and the fat monkey?
January 24th, 2011 at 12:07 am
oh, Dirtee,
you mean a real WR like pro-bowler Santana Moss in Washington.
Yes, yes, that’s what JC needs.
Wait, he had him, and Portis, and Cooley, and Jansen, and Randle-El, and a D. He lost 32 out of the 52 games he played.
AND GOT TRADED FOR A FUTURE 4th ROUNDER while in his prime.
Excuses, excuses.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:08 am
we act like JC has never been surrounded by talent.
And to answer 275, his name is Darren McFadden.
Ford helped a bit too.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:08 am
Pitos
January 24th, 2011 at 12:10 am
271.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:03 am
so in BigBlack’s world, it was
Jon Gruden’s fault
Bill Callahan’s fault
Norv Turner’s fault
Al Shell’s fault
Lane Kiffin’s fault
Tom Cable’s fault
but not Al Davis’ fault, because ALL HE DOES is run the draft, free agency, trades, roster cut-downs, hires the head coaches, approves assistants, and installs the philosophy on defense.
Got it.
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not a al davis fan,but i like the direction of the team right now with hue jackson .major improvement over cable.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:10 am
Black’s world omits the word “most” from his tiny little vocabulary. Goodnight.
Put your money where your mouth is, and bet the Raiders will win even 10 games next year, now that they have a “real” coach and have solved their run D and QB problems somehow.
I’ll be here whenever you’re done blabbing, and ready to put up.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:10 am
276.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:07 am
oh, Dirtee,
you mean a real WR like pro-bowler Santana Moss in Washington.
Yes, yes, that’s what JC needs.
Wait, he had him, and Portis, and Cooley, and Jansen, and Randle-El, and a D. He lost 32 out of the 52 games he played.
AND GOT TRADED FOR A FUTURE 4th ROUNDER while in his prime.
Excuses, excuses.
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No excuses, Jason Campbell sux, and always has. I would fire his azz in a hot min, start over with a fresh QB, and our youn D. We have some good young players on O too.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Hue will fix the run D that has plagued us 8 years in a row.
The QB that Hue benched 3 times last year will lead us to wins next year over the Packers, Patriots, Jets, Bears, and Vikings.
Makes sense.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Pito
January 24th, 2011 at 12:12 am
277.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:08 am
we act like JC has never been surrounded by talent.
And to answer 275, his name is Darren McFadden.
Ford helped a bit too.
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Exactly! So draft a QB, re sign Miller, get a real wr in fa, and let our young and good D off the chain!
January 24th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Alright Racoon, I’m with you then.
Bring us Andy Dalton from TCU, Matt Flynn of GB, or even Vince friggin Young (head case who just wins, perfect Al Davis guy) and let’s have a real shot at winning soon.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:14 am
The Raiders will never have a top tiered QB. That’s why its just best to stick with what they have and see if he can get comfortable and do a few things in the offense.
I am not interested in any more musical chairs at QB or coach. Just roll with what we got and HOPE for the best.
There are too many issues behind the scenes that prevents the Raiders from developing talent at certain positions.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:14 am
mcfadden is starting to find himself and play like we all all saw in collage.so dmc helps your arguement,but ford did not score a single point the first 8 games.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:16 am
I’ll admit that I’ve been getting excited about the prospects of bringing in an Ochcinco or V. Jackson…only to realize that it’s not gonna matter if we still have Jason Campbell under center.
A good quarterback can make receivers looks like stars…but a good receiver can’t necessarily make a QB look great. (Randy Moss was here…)
The fact is it doesn’t matter who we bring in receiver if we have a QB who can’t throw to WRS. Campbell is a sub-par QB and he has been his entire career. I cannot fathom how some raider fans could watch him week in and week out and think they see potential. He has none of the qualities I look for in a QB…except height. Yes try to being in a good vet receiver. But for God’s sake bring in a QB or three!
+Vince Young
+Carson Palmer
+Matt Leinart
+Kevin Kolb (status?)
+Michael Vick (People have been throwing his name around, has there been any evidence that the Eagles would part with him??
If your QB is not one of your top 2 or 3 players on your offense – you need a new QB
January 24th, 2011 at 12:18 am
282.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:12 am
Hue will fix the run D that has plagued us 8 years in a row.
The QB that Hue benched 3 times last year will lead us to wins next year over the Packers, Patriots, Jets, Bears, and Vikings.
Makes sense.
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hue benched 1 time.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:18 am
285.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:13 am
Alright Racoon, I’m with you then.
Bring us Andy Dalton from TCU, Matt Flynn of GB, or even Vince friggin Young (head case who just wins, perfect Al Davis guy) and let’s have a real shot at winning soon.
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Hue Jac, Saunders, Miller, Ford, McFaddy, Veeld, Reece, we have some really good pieces, but we need more. The most important is a QB, and second in a vet poss WR. With that and a good young D we are good to go.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:19 am
287.bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:14 am
mcfadden is starting to find himself and play like we all all saw in collage.so dmc helps your arguement,but ford did not score a single point the first 8 games.
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Thats cause Cable didn’t know about him.. lol
January 24th, 2011 at 12:21 am
http://www.monkeyf uckingafootball.com/order.html
January 24th, 2011 at 12:21 am
we should have kept cable. that could have been our new logo.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:21 am
alex7
o.k. it`s clear you got a thing for campbell.i got a thing for cable.the question is why?
January 24th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Black, you are waaaay out of touch if you don’t know that Hue benched him against the Rams, for the Cardinals game, for the Texans game, and against the Steelers.
I’m being nice with 3.
Hue had the Raiders put up their first 400 yard offensive day in 6 YEARS with Bruce and the Cards. Hue was ALL FOR benching JC against the Texans the next week too. Got himself yet another 400 yard milestone day.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:23 am
Nopassingzone,
When was the last time the Raiders had a QB that threw the ball consistently?
Who was his receivers?
Developing QBs requires strong organizations and consistency in the coaching / system
The Raiders are a junkyard team. THey have to find guys that can grind it out with limited direction.
The silver lining this year is that Hue Jackson appears to be a qualified professional head coach. I think they will run a legitimate training camp without the distractions or “innovative” ideas like 3 days of walk throughs….maybe Jackson will have them run wind sprints and stretch their hamstrings before practice
January 24th, 2011 at 12:24 am
291.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:19 am
287.bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:14 am
mcfadden is starting to find himself and play like we all all saw in collage.so dmc helps your arguement,but ford did not score a single point the first 8 games.
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Thats cause Cable didn’t know about him.. lol
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cable know about fargas.what a dumb o-line coach.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:26 am
# The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:05 am
So why should we care if Cable beat his wife, or Russell tape himself doin drunk girls, or if Jano takes GHB and touches himself, or if Jafata ss dirks the purp?
………..
Sounds like you’re playing a game of “gotcha”. And as always with the “gotcha” game, you’re taking past comments out of context. Run along.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:27 am
Alex,you also forget how Jackson started an injured BG over JC in the Miami game.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:27 am
296.SnB Production Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:23 am
Nopassingzone,
When was the last time the Raiders had a QB that threw the ball consistently?
Who was his receivers?
Developing QBs requires strong organizations and consistency in the coaching / system
The Raiders are a junkyard team. THey have to find guys that can grind it out with limited direction.
The silver lining this year is that Hue Jackson appears to be a qualified professional head coach. I think they will run a legitimate training camp without the distractions or “innovative” ideas like 3 days of walk throughs….maybe Jackson will have them run wind sprints and stretch their hamstrings before practice
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i forgot about the walk throughs.that cable guy was a real innovator.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:29 am
why? Campbell had a lifetime 20-32 record in Washington despite that team having enough talent to make the playoffs twice during his time there, each time only AFTER JC was benched or hurt and the team went on a win streak.
-Career losing record.
-JC can’t handle pressure (overwhelmed by Steelers, Titans, 49ers, and Rams pressure D’s, and by having Bruce looking over his shoulder)
- No leadership, emotion, or coaching on the field.
-Earned himself “Captain Checkdown” nickname in DC because he plays it too safe.
-Had to be asked by TOM CABLE to cut it loose.
-Still checked down all through the season. 3rd and 9? I’ll throw the quick 4 yard out without even looking at the rest of the field.
-Lacks awareness (took that knee right after the snap vs the Titans on a live play that he THOUGHT the D jumped off-sides. Hello?! That’s when you throw the deep route.
Threw to Ford at the 20 instead of to DHB into the end zone on last play vs Jaguars.
Couldn’t run his own 2-minute drill that game, costing us precious time waiting for plays to be called in. (He’s a 29-year old veteran!)
Other than that, what’s not to like?
January 24th, 2011 at 12:31 am
lefty12 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:27 am
Alex,you also forget how Jackson started an injured BG over JC in the Miami game
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Does it matter? Both JC and BG would be hard pressed to start anywhere else in the league…and may have a hard time making the rosters.
This is an organization that drafted JaDavis. When you BUST out like that with a #1 draft pick…and then follow that up with DHB…your offense is going to struggle.
The best bet is to rely on DMAC and find the handful of things JC can do and roll with that.
I’ve said this for 10 years…the best bet for this team is to build a CHAMPIONSHIP level defense and the offense to limit turnovers.
It is what it is!
January 24th, 2011 at 12:32 am
Bigblack,
remember Davis doesn’t ALLOW tough camps.
Chris Carr has told Raider players about how crazy tough the Ravens camps are compared to Oakland.
And it’s made him a much better player. Oh, and they win.
Here? Davis got mad that Cable’s tough camps cost the Raiders 2 days of OTAs, and he fined him DURING THE CRUCIAL STRETCH of the season for it.
Davis is a players owner through and through. He’s SAID he doesn’t want some disciplinarian coach. So if you think camps are going to be tough and strengthen this team, Davis has a word for you.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:34 am
# alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:22 am
Black, you are waaaay out of touch if you don’t know that Hue benched him against the Rams, for the Cardinals game, for the Texans game, and against the Steelers….Hue was ALL FOR benching JC against the Texans the next week too.
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I’ve been hoping & praying that Hue was behind yanking Campbell…I seem to remember both Cable and Jackson trying to take credit for the benching. Hue has a lot more credibility with me. I hope Jackson is not content with Campbell at starting QB for 2011. I hope his praise of Campbell’s “flawless” play in the presser was just coach-speak. We have too much talent to waste next year on hope that Campbell’s untapped (and unseen) potential will miraculously blossom. What if it doesn’t?
I know it’s crazy but gee…what if past performance really is the best predictor of future behavior?? Teams only get a short window of opportunity to put a talented group together and make a run…it’s tough to keep a good team together…we can’t afford to waste another year on Jason Campbell.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:34 am
298.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:26 am
# The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:05 am
So why should we care if Cable beat his wife, or Russell tape himself doin drunk girls, or if Jano takes GHB and touches himself, or if Jafata ss dirks the purp?
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Sounds like you’re playing a game of “gotcha”. And as always with the “gotcha” game, you’re taking past comments out of context. Run along.
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Run along? Why cause ya got nothin?
January 24th, 2011 at 12:35 am
agreed lefty,
except Davis won’t allow us to build said championship D either.
Doesn’t want a big time QB, doesn’t want a modern D. Weird.
“Hey Mr. Davis, I’m going to bring in Monte Kiffin to run our D. You know, top 5 D every single year. He’s willing! No? You want Rob Ryan AGAIN?”
Then, of course, Davis releases Ryan one year later anyways.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Exactly No Passing Zone,
people keep talking about Jason as if he’s some 24 year old young-pup.
The dude turns 30 next year. There is no POTENTIAL left in him. We see what he is. A guy who crumbles against good teams, holds the ball too long, and plays it safe.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Because that is when his contract was up.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:38 am
cable 17-27 record as a pro coach.11-35 as a collage coach.life time record of 28-62.career losing record.look at that, it`s worst than campbell.a real loser.but hay he went 8-8 with hue jackson.other than that,what`s not to like?
January 24th, 2011 at 12:38 am
be careful what you say RMR.. Al Davis is a ganster.. with millions of dollars.. just looking out for you! lol
January 24th, 2011 at 12:41 am
bigblack,
and who hired Cable and stretched him out too much?
and who traded for JC?
see the common denominator.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:41 am
damn it.. that could have been another Cal star drafted by the raiders to become a pro bowler.. imagine.. Aaron Rodgers a Raider.. instead, we ended up with Ja purple drank
January 24th, 2011 at 12:41 am
cable beat his wife like she was randy hansen .i`m glad hes gone.
p.s. do the raiders have a better qb than campbell.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:42 am
Right lefty,
Davis KNEW he wasn’t going to retain Ryan. Had 5 years of evidence. Yet given the chance to bring in a bona-fide top-5 NFL defensive coordinator, he passed.
Probably to save a few hundred thousand and spite his young head coach.
Commitment to Excellence my butt.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:43 am
307.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:37 am
Exactly No Passing Zone,
people keep talking about Jason as if he’s some 24 year old young-pup.
The dude turns 30 next year. There is no POTENTIAL left in him. We see what he is. A guy who crumbles against good teams, holds the ball too long, and plays it safe.
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and gets blown out by the colts 31-26.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:44 am
Black, some say a healthy Bruce is better than JC.
Hue seemed to like healthy Bruce better than JC throughout 1st half of season.
I think both are too limited to make a difference.
I would trade for Palmer, Flynn, or Young, depending on asking price. Would draft Dalton as well. No other position is more important.
Again, Bears, Steelers, and Packers O-lines were all deemed terrible throughout the year.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:44 am
what top 5 d.c are you talking about.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:46 am
I can picture Black sitting there during the game vs the Colts.
Down 2 scores late in the 4th.
“We got this! We’re going to win!”
That game was over by halftime when Dominic Rhodes looked like Bo Jackson out there, and JC looked like, well, JC.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:46 am
Cable slapped his wife over 20 years ago and admitted he made a mistake.There were 6 coaches in the room when that slim ball Hanson broke his jaw and not one of them stood up for him or said he was wronged.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:48 am
Monte Kiffin, who Lane had convinced to come coach the Raider D.
But Al would have none of that winning mumbo-jumbo!!
So he overruled Kiffin and let Rob Ryan stay another year, guiding us to yet another 28th ranked D.
Good times.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:48 am
And Jackson kept trying to run around the ends when the weakness of the Colts run D was to attack them up the middle.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:49 am
316.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:44 am
Black, some say a healthy Bruce is better than JC.
Hue seemed to like healthy Bruce better than JC throughout 1st half of season.
I think both are too limited to make a difference.
I would trade for Palmer, Flynn, or Young, depending on asking price. Would draft Dalton as well. No other position is more important.
Again, Bears, Steelers, and Packers O-lines were all deemed terrible throughout the year.
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trade for this guy.if bruce was healthy.is this like your scoring method again.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:50 am
Look Al Davis is the owner. The decisions are going to be bad. If you’ve been following for more than 15 years you just recognize it.
Al Davis is the owner.
It took Lefty seeing Cable fired for him to start to see the situation as it is and he is clearly frustrated now.
I recognize what this is. I just hope for competitive football on more weeks than not. So overall I was satisfied with the season.
The Raiders will have a tough time competing with the upper echelon because of the unique situation. Can’t develop top tier QBs, incomsistency in the o-line for decades, bad, no-name receivers and massive busts in the top end of the draft.
Yet the Raiders managed to compete this year and have a generally positive outlook next year…
Super Bowl or AFC Championship? No. But they could sneak a division championship in a watered down division….sort of like the early 90’s…..7-9 to 10-6.
I am cool with that and any of you long-time fans should be too
January 24th, 2011 at 12:50 am
comical Lefty. Davis then takes his high-class self, and airs out dirty laundry on live television of an ex-employee that HE HIRED.
How honorable.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:50 am
# bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:41 am
p.s. do the raiders have a better qb than campbell.
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From what I’ve seen of Jason Campbell, I’d say it’s hard to be worse, I’d rather take a chance with any QB on our current roster (and it’s slim pickings)than start Campbell for all the reason’s we’ve posted for months ad nauseum. I’d start a glass Gradkowski, I’d see what Boller had to offer, hell I’d even throw Frye in there, at least he seems like he is reading the playbook!
BUT the main point is, who cares who is on our roster now? We need to go out and get an available QB: Young would be top of my list.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:51 am
good post SnB. I’m done for the night. Take care all.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:52 am
For example, drafting DHB for his 40x over BJ Raji and his ability to attack the o-line was just a bad decision on top of others.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:54 am
318.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:46 am
I can picture Black sitting there during the game vs the Colts.
Down 2 scores late in the 4th.
“We got this! We’re going to win!”
That game was over by halftime when Dominic Rhodes looked like Bo Jackson out there, and JC looked like, well, JC.
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i went to that game.sat behind the colts bench.17-13 at half time and the game was over.wow!!!!!!!!!
January 24th, 2011 at 12:55 am
Vince Young
Lifetime record 30-17. Two years without Chris Johnson.
Does everything you ask a QB to do…
better than JC.
win, not fumble, not get sacked, throw to receivers, complete passes, not throw INTs.
But of course, fans will be like “that crazy guy, get out of here” ignoring, you know, the winning and QB ability.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:56 am
oh, he’s also made the playoffs and the Pro Bowl.
And is 4 years younger. No biggie.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:57 am
319.lefty12 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:46 am
Cable slapped his wife over 20 years ago and admitted he made a mistake.There were 6 coaches in the room when that slim ball Hanson broke his jaw and not one of them stood up for him or said he was wronged.
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slim ball,never meet the guy in my life have you.but hes a slim ball for getting his jaw broke.cable gets a pass for his wife 20 years ago.but what about the lady from last year.i know cable went 8-8 so hes all good.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:00 am
sorry you can’t look ahead Black.
“Our D is getting gashed by a no-name RB, AGAIN!”
“Our O can’t run the ball.”
“We have ZERO 1st downs in the first quarter. Our only TD came on a kickoff return.”
“We have JC, they have Manning.”
uhhh, yeah, game over.
lol, JC was 1-5 passing, for 1 yard in the 1st quarter. Yay JC flawless 2nd half of the season!
January 24th, 2011 at 1:00 am
Alex,
You can bring in VY or Palmer or anyone else. Bottom line is teams do not willingly release or trade good QBs. VY worst traits will be amplified in Oakland….the lack of receiving talent handcuff him and he will be reduced to just tucking and running.
Carson Palmer? If you can’t get it done with T.O and Ocho and the young guys with a decent back in Benson…what’s he going to do with DHB, Murphy and Schilens on crutches with the Raider pass protection.
I just don’t think a QB change matters much.
I would focus on building up a championship level defense and leave it at that. Give DMAC the ball and have a “safe, ball control passing attack” read checkdowns and high percentage passes.
Again, the unique situation here drives everything
January 24th, 2011 at 1:02 am
again Black, willing to give you 2-1 odds that the Raiders won’t win more than 9 games next year.
$100 for you if they do,
$50 to me if they don’t.
Goodnight.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:02 am
vince young is not on the team.what`s wrong with you.if you are just going to grab players than hell i want logan mankins he way better than gallery.desean jackson too pair with ford ,gates over miller and brady as my qb.tomlin my coach and blackdeath29(me) as owner.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:02 am
NoPassingZone Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:50 am
# bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:41 am
From what I’ve seen of Jason Campbell, I’d say it’s hard to be worse,
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Is it hard to be worse? Maybe in other places. But here?
JaDavis
McCown
Culpepper
Brooks
Walter
KFC
Hobert
Schroeder
Quite easy to get worse.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:03 am
The allegations about that woman from last year were investigated by the league and by ESPN-also supposedly by the team-and nothing was found.If Hanson was right,why didn’t any of the other coaches in the room stand up for him?Did they all commit perjury and risk going to jail to protect Cable?
January 24th, 2011 at 1:05 am
but SnB,
we DID have a safe, ball-control passing attack with a top run game.
How does that work vs the Colts, 49ers, Steelers, and Titans of the NFL? The pressure D’s? It doesn’t.
We need a QB who can just make 5 to 6 quality downfield throws a game with our top RB. That’s it.
Palmer can do that. We’re not asking him to win the game like Cincy did all year. Benson and the run-blocking sucked this year.
Young has been doing that with no-name receivers in Tennessee for 4 years now. Hand the ball off, make the timely downfield throw, but HIT IT. He does. Our guy doesn’t.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:07 am
Warner was let go and flourished after people thought he was done.
Trent Green was in his 30s when he went to KC and flourished there.
We know Gannon’s story.
True, a better WR helps us out. But IF we get that better WR, I want a QB that has proven he can pass the ball downfield to his WRs, and win games, and make the playoffs.
Palmer and Young make that list. JC is nowhere near it.
Young wasn’t a top-10 rated QB this year by some fluke.
His 30-17 record covers 4 seasons now. The guy gets it done.
Palmer made the playoffs just LAST year. He’s not suddenly worse than JC.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:08 am
Lefty,
Tom Cable is gone man. It doesn’t matter much because he really didn’t have much input in the offense (Hue) and defense (Al Davis). Didn’t do much with the roster and the only thing it appears he had rule over was the o-line, which was ok run blocking but poor pass blocking.
Therefore, what role did Cable have to justify his salary. Might as well give the job to Hue.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:09 am
Black, I’m done with you.
It’s called players who are available. If that’s too complicated for you to understand, log off.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:10 am
337.lefty12 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 1:03 am
The allegations about that woman from last year were investigated by the league and by ESPN-also supposedly by the team-and nothing was found.If Hanson was right,why didn’t any of the other coaches in the room stand up for him?Did they all commit perjury and risk going to jail to protect Cable?
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poor slimball faked his own broken jaw.x-rays and all.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:12 am
Alex7,
Free agent QBs are all limited. If VY and Carson were good there is no way their teams would let them go and return to the wilderness of trying to develop a young QB.
I am saying it doesn’t matter who the QB is. and because it doesn’t matter, you save the money and pump up the defense and o-line and tell the QB not to turn the ball over.
Look at the SB teams this year. Rogers and Rothlisberger. You gotta develop your own QBs if you want to win
January 24th, 2011 at 1:13 am
The Raiders have probably had the most head coaches and quarterbacks over the last 25 years.
Just time to stop the madness.
I would rather see the Raiders bring in a mid-round draft pick and let him develop while JC dinks and dunks.
Just tired of all the change
January 24th, 2011 at 1:13 am
341.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 1:09 am
Black, I’m done with you.
It’s called players who are available. If that’s too complicated for you to understand, log off.
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hay if you could make statments like 31-26 (17-13 halftime)is a blow out than i could make crazy staments also.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:14 am
# SnB Production Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 1:02 am
NoPassingZone Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:50 am
# bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:41 am
From what I’ve seen of Jason Campbell, I’d say it’s hard to be worse,
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Is it hard to be worse? Maybe in other places. But here?
JaDavis
McCown
Culpepper
Brooks
Walter
KFC
Hobert
Schroeder
Quite easy to get worse.
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BigBlack, your question was “do the raiders have a better qb than campbell?” I said yes, any of the other QBs currently on the roster would be a better bet.
Not sure what these QBs have to do with my answer. But I think Brooks & Walter could have been good QBs they just didn’t have the coaching, the talent, or most importantly, the O-Line to ever have a chance. On the 2010 team both Brooks and Walther would have had this team in the playoffs.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:15 am
340.SnB Production Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 1:08 am
Lefty,
Tom Cable is gone man. It doesn’t matter much because he really didn’t have much input in the offense (Hue) and defense (Al Davis). Didn’t do much with the roster and the only thing it appears he had rule over was the o-line, which was ok run blocking but poor pass blocking.
Therefore, what role did Cable have to justify his salary. Might as well give the job to Hue.
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you are the most level headed person on this blog.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:16 am
I don’t care if Cable is gone or not.I doubt it will make much,if any,difference.Jackson had as many bad games as good ones so unlike most of the sheep,I’m not convinced he’s the answer.I just get sick of the BS put out there as to why Cable wasn’t retained.Davis once again proved how petty he is,and many on here eat it up and repeat the BS.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:18 am
man i would hate to be jason campbell.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:22 am
cable did`nt get retained because he`d dumb.hes got a dumb football mind.he did a good job with the attitude on the team and changing it.but to get over the top he had too go.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:22 am
Lefty,
Jackson was brought on board with the idea he would be head coach. Al Davis, in his mecurial ways, felt it better to let Hue focus all his efforts on offense before “taking over”
Will it make a difference? Who knows. But Cable was stripped of any real responsibility other than cheerleader.
Other HCs don’t run their offenses or defenses. But they have significant input and ultimate responsibility.
Tom Cable didn’t have any significant input/oversight or responsibility.
He was fired at the end of last year
January 24th, 2011 at 1:24 am
The only strength Cable was though to have was the ability to co-exist with Davis and maybe shield the team from some of the B.S.
Apparently that wasn’t true at all. Therefore, he had no real job
January 24th, 2011 at 1:25 am
Also, these coaches and players that get released aren’t really all that good. Most of them end up in the UFL, Canada or out of football all together.
The Raiders have to just focus on building the current roster with more FOOTBALL players and hope that they can have a productive offseason and a real training camp
January 24th, 2011 at 1:29 am
S&B,I don’t mean any offense,but don’t lecture me on the workings of the Raiders.I’ve been a fan of this team since before the petty old man stole it.I know how he operates.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:32 am
329.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:55 am
Vince Young
Lifetime record 30-17. Two years without Chris Johnson.
Does everything you ask a QB to do…
better than JC.
win, not fumble, not get sacked, throw to receivers, complete passes, not throw INTs.
But of course, fans will be like “that crazy guy, get out of here” ignoring, you know, the winning and QB ability.
330.alex7 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:56 am
oh, he’s also made the playoffs and the Pro Bowl.
And is 4 years younger. No biggie.
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Sign this man up.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:36 am
The Raiders are not the place for players with discipline/motivation issues.
That’s why there is no way VY would be a good pickup in Oakland.
Not enough discipline and structure.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:38 am
Lefty,
If you are aware of how Davis works…then it should be no surprise to you at all the way things went for Tom Cable and the 9 other head coaches over the last 20 years. Or the high number of quarterbacks to run through here.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:45 am
It isn’t surprising.Nothing Davis does surprises me.But it does pi$$ me off when he acts so petty like he did at the press conference.Makes me ashamed to call the Raiders my favorite team.I’ll get over it.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:54 am
BREAKING NFL NEWS: Pam Oliver is accusing Jay Cutler of texting her pictures of his va gina.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:57 am
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What happened to Groves?
January 24th, 2011 at 1:58 am
QuentinGroves52 Quentin Groves
I’m hearing a lot of “Steeler Nation”…but to me “Raider Nation” is the ONLY nation..#ANDIZDAT
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Well said QG.
January 24th, 2011 at 2:17 am
alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Weird points in Jerry’s article.
Woodson, Chris Carr, PBuc, and Fabian Washington all leave Oakland and play better elsewhere.
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Because Al’s not dictating a 1970 defence to other teams, just to the Raiders.
January 24th, 2011 at 2:22 am
dbaz09 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
If you’re reading this Al, nice job squashing the Aaron Rodgers for Randy Moss trade a few years back. That would’ve easily made up for one of the worst drafts in Raider history (2005) which never gets mentioned.
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I’d forgotten all about that Moss for Rodgers thing.
Holy Toledo!
Never mind, Al went out and got us fatarse Russell
January 24th, 2011 at 3:20 am
362.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 2:17 am
alex7 Says:
January 23rd, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Weird points in Jerry’s article.
Woodson, Chris Carr, PBuc, and Fabian Washington all leave Oakland and play better elsewhere.
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Because Al’s not dictating a 1970 defence to other teams, just to the Raiders.
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woodson wanted out and played like it… it was time to let him go…
i thought washington was good… developing nicely… but he got into a domestic dispute here in florida… he got released soon after…
the carr thing i didn’t understand… i would have kept him…
buchanon had ego problems that wouldn’t quit… he had to go… he cost us as much as he gave us…
January 24th, 2011 at 3:49 am
The contract of famed Steelers DC Dick LeBeau expires after this season. Could be biggest free agent out there
-Adam Schefter (twitter)
Screw Hue!
January 24th, 2011 at 3:54 am
Lady Tomlinson was once again a no-show in the playoffs…
just retire already. you ain’t getting a ring!
ditto for Moss & Owens
January 24th, 2011 at 4:25 am
Carson Palmer wants out of Cinci and Ocho love Hue..
They dont like to play together, so who would you want of those to joining the raiders?
if Ocho’s getting here, he might be a team player for a few weeks, but I dont think it will take long for Ocho to throw Campbell under the bus, once he realize Campbell isnt a tenth of the QB he had in cincy..
Many here said Palmer is done, I dont think so, I stated for a year all he needs is a change of scenery and a more offensive minded coaching staff..
So what would we benefit most of, a great WR or a great QB?? well if we look at the GB games, Rodgers made much of one good WR and some above mediocre… THAT would be Palmers situation here in Oakland…
its a great question Palmer or Ocho, im leaning towards Palmer…
January 24th, 2011 at 4:29 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 3:49 am
The contract of famed Steelers DC Dick LeBeau expires after this season. Could be biggest free agent out there
-Adam Schefter (twitter)
Screw Hue!
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didnt take you long to turn on Hue!?
Lebeau plays a proper D, so he will never be SnB as long Davis in the house…
January 24th, 2011 at 5:43 am
Screw Chad Johnson! Bring in Santonio Holmes and give DHB his walking papers.
January 24th, 2011 at 5:47 am
Both teams in the Superbowl have great quarterbacks and like to blitz a lot.
I wonder if we need to get a great quarterback and an aggressive defense?
Naah….
Let’s just keep being stupid.
January 24th, 2011 at 5:58 am
Oh and Jer, this is probably the worst blog entry I’ve seen around here.
I’m gonna guess that most of these players in the SB have ties to the Packers and Steelers organizations… fool!
Seriously, how many palyers on either team are from other teams in the league?
January 24th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Mornin’ Nation.
Stuck here at ground zero of Steeler delirium. I no longer fear Hell.
January 24th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
good Point, CW! (369,371)
Rockstar…That was the highlight of the game…LT stopped at the 3 inch line!!! LOL
January 24th, 2011 at 6:00 am
Al will try to bring in LeBeau so he can finally have a member of his own generation to converse with
January 24th, 2011 at 6:00 am
Good Morning PA…that really must be hell, huh?
January 24th, 2011 at 6:00 am
374…OUCH! LOL
January 24th, 2011 at 6:02 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 6:00 am
Good Morning PA…that really must be hell, huh?
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You have no idea. God help me if they win. 2009 was hard enough to stomach.
January 24th, 2011 at 6:04 am
3 out of the 4 teams in the conference finals and both participants in the Super Bowl play a 3-4 defense that emphasizes aggression.
But let’s stick with the 4-3 because we generated a few sacks last season, right?
January 24th, 2011 at 6:08 am
I going out on alimb here by saying that I am actually picking Green Bay for this one…if Mark Sanchez could pass on the great Steeler D…imagine what Rogers can do…they are evenly matched to me…
I hear ya, PA…that would be 7 and probably the whole world would never hear the end of that!
January 24th, 2011 at 6:14 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 6:08 am
I going out on alimb here by saying that I am actually picking Green Bay for this one…if Mark Sanchez could pass on the great Steeler D…imagine what Rogers can do…they are evenly matched to me…
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It should be a hell of a game, no question.
If Green Bay’s offensive line can give Rodgers time, he can shred that secondary, regardless of Polamalu. Packers have too much depth at receiver for the Steelers to match it.
I think the Steelers’s offensive line will find that Green Bay’s defensive line is a different proposition altogether from the Jets’s.
Cullen Jenkins, BJ Raji and Ryan Pickett are no joke. The Jets’s line has Shaun Ellis and no one else. Sione Pouha? Mike Devito? Scrubs. Fortunately for the Jets, there’s a lot of good 3-4 D-line prospects available in the draft this year.
Preliminary guess at the final is Green Bay 27 – Steelers 17
January 24th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Yeah, and if Pouncey can’t get healthy by February 6Th…BJ Raji is gonna have a field day!
January 24th, 2011 at 6:19 am
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 3-4 NT get manhandled and abused the way Pouha was yesterday. Pouncey destroyed and even Doug Legursky, who is no great shakes, walked him all over the field at will.
Jets need to hope Kris Jenkins can stay healthy next year or start scouting NT prospects.
January 24th, 2011 at 6:25 am
I will say this much: 4-3 scheme, 3-4 scheme, none of it matters if it’s not predicated on stopping the run.
Steelers, Bears, Jets were #1, #2 and #3 against the run last year.
Packers are the odd run defense out at #18, but they were riddled by injuries much of the year, so I’ll write that off as an aberration.
January 24th, 2011 at 6:27 am
And hell, if the Raiders climb to #18 against the run next year, I’ll vote for our D-coordinator for President!
January 24th, 2011 at 6:31 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Yeah, and if Pouncey can’t get healthy by February 6Th…BJ Raji is gonna have a field day!
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That dude that replaced him did a real good job.
January 24th, 2011 at 6:32 am
R.I.P. Jack LaLanne.
January 24th, 2011 at 6:33 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 6:32 am
R.I.P. Jack LaLanne
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Imma raise a glass of juice tonight in his honor
January 24th, 2011 at 6:38 am
Who will our DC be? I don’t think Lebeau will leave Pitt…Winston Moss? maybe?
January 24th, 2011 at 6:47 am
hwnrdr Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 6:38 am
Who will our DC be? I don’t think Lebeau will leave Pitt…Winston Moss? maybe?
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I’m going to guess it’s Moss.
Haven’t heard a single other name mentioned and he can’t be interviewed until after the Super Bowl.
January 24th, 2011 at 6:51 am
But will Al have to tag him with the Assistant HC thingy too?
January 24th, 2011 at 7:13 am
Even one of Cutler’s fellow quarterbacks, Oakland’s Bruce Gradkowski, got in on the action, writing that he once played with two torn MCLs and adding, “Is cutler still ur starter next year? Did the players give up on him?”
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What a dirtbag! Cable was a start, but the Raiders’ locker room still needs “cleaning out”.
January 24th, 2011 at 7:16 am
Morning Nation!
Lebeau will stay he is too old to tske on a new D plus his JoPa commennt leads me too belive he loves PA I would vote for a Waffule, Moss combo
January 24th, 2011 at 7:26 am
This hype about 3-4 vs 4-3 scheme is ridiculous. For every scheme there is another scheme deigned to defeat it. Eventually it comes down to players execution and talent.
Jay cutler sat down due to injury, I get it. However the problem is while your on the sideline losing the biggest game of your career, you shouldn’t be caught on camera yucking it up with the back up qb that just got benched for the third stringer. At least act like you care.
Some people had the nerve to say cutler was a very good qb. He stinks on ice. I would take our JC over cutler every day of the week & twice on Sunday. JC is tougher, makes better decisions & is more accurate. All around better teammate & player.
January 24th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Even one of Cutler’s fellow quarterbacks, Oakland’s Bruce Gradkowski, got in on the action, writing that he once played with two torn MCLs and adding, “Is cutler still ur starter next year? Did the players give up on him?”
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Laughable!!! Gradkowski won’t even be in the NFL next year. Bg how about a nice big bowl of stfu!
January 24th, 2011 at 7:36 am
HC – Dick LeBeau
OC – Al Saunders
DC – Keith Butler
keep Tollner & Hackett on staff for continuity. Hire Ray Sherman for WR Coach
draft a BEAST nose tackle in Round 2.
Playoffs, Baby!
Screw Hue!
January 24th, 2011 at 7:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 7:36 am
HC – Dick LeBeau
OC – Al Saunders
DC – Keith Butler
keep Tollner & Hackett on staff for continuity. Hire Ray Sherman for WR Coach
draft a BEAST nose tackle in Round 2.
Playoffs, Baby
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A beautiful fantasy. Ever consider writing novels?
January 24th, 2011 at 7:40 am
I also think it’s really interesting that the steelers play the same brand of football since the knoll era & people on this board say nothing. A few minor tweaks on offense but still pressure qb stuff the run on defense. Run first offense qb 20 -25 throws a game.
Noone says it’s out dated.
When al Davis sticks to his formula peope say it’s 70’s football. Check yourselves impostors, 70’s football still works. Now the hated steelers are on their way to yet another bowl appearance.
Comical
January 24th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Labaue was one of the worst hc in football in cincinnati no way would I ever want him running my beloved raiders. Hu Jack city will be a much better hc.
Outrageous
January 24th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Screw Hu?????!!!?!? Wow. All he did we make chicken salad ou of chicken ish. Doesn’t even have his guys to run his offense and gave us the # 6 scoring offense in the league, behind one of the worst olines in football.
Some folks have no clue
January 24th, 2011 at 7:49 am
I’d trade a 4th rounder for Carson Palmer.
January 24th, 2011 at 7:50 am
Packers’ Mike Trgovac in line for Broncos’ defensive coordinator job
Detroit Free Press News Services
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Facebook Twitter FarkIt Digg Del.icio.us Reddit Newsvine Buzz up!GREEN BAY, Wis. — Mike Trgovac, the Green Bay Packers’ defensive line coach since 2009, reportedly is in position to become defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos if he wants the job.
The Denver Post reported that Trgovac is the favorite of new Broncos coach John Fox.
“He’s a great coach,” Packers head coach Mike McCarthy said, referring to Trgovac. “I’m sure there will be opportunities. But I haven’t talked to John (Fox). I haven’t heard a word.”
If the Packers lose to Chicago today, it’s expected that the Broncos will send a letter of request to interview Trgovac.
If the Packers win, league rules would prevent Denver from making the request until after the Super Bowl.
Trgovac, 51, wouldn’t say whether he would leave Green Bay for what would be a much higher-paying job in Denver.
“I don’t know,” he said. “I haven’t even talked to Foxie. To be honest, I haven’t given it a lot of thought. I haven’t even discussed it with my wife yet.”
More Green Bay: Safety Atari Bigby will be in uniform and probably will play some from scrimmage against the Bears. He missed the last three games with a groin injury. “We’ll try to get him some snaps,” safeties coach Darren Perry said. “We’ll see how the game goes. Absolutely, Charlie (Peprah ) is our starter.” Since being activated from reserve status Nov. 6, Bigby has played in just four of a possible 10 games.
MIAMI: Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland signed a multi-year contract extension with the team. Ireland was brought in from the Dallas Cowboys after the Dolphins’ 1-15 season in 2007 and has overseen an overhaul of the team’s roster. Dolphins owner Steve Ross praised the young talent Ireland has added to the team. The Dolphins finished 7-9 and failed to make the playoffs for the eighth time in the last nine seasons.
Pro Bowl: Arizona defensive tackle Darnell Dockett was added to the NFC team as a replacement for Minnesota’s Kevin Williams, himself a replacement for Detroit’s Ndamukong Suh. Williams’ wife is expecting a child. Suh has a shoulder injury.
FREEZING FANS: About 7,500 New York jets fans turned out to give coach Rex Ryan’s crew one last boost before leaving for Pittsburgh. It was early. It was freezing. It didn’t matter. The Jets held a raucous rally from 9 a.m. until noon at their training facility. General manager Mike Tannenbaum spoke, as did New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and superfan Fireman Ed. The Jets (13-5) meet the Steelers (13-4) in the AFC Championship Game today.
Read more: Packers’ Mike Trgovac in line for Broncos’ defensive coordinator job | freep.com | Detroit Free Press
January 24th, 2011 at 7:52 am
The Steelers got to thank officiating. Vs. Baltimore the Refs practically handed them the game with the phantom holding call on the punt return….
January 24th, 2011 at 7:54 am
PA,
Dick LeBeau would have 3-4 DE’s Kelly, Houston, ShoNasty & Seymour instead of
Aaron Smith, Brett Keisel, Ziggy Hood & Nick Eason !!!
Casey Hampton & Chris Hoke at NT is not easy to replicate though … Hampton is a 5x Pro Bowler and 2x Super Bowl champ (going on 3?)
McClain, Goethel, R. Brown & Williams at ILB instead of Lawrence Timmons, James Farrior, Larry Foote & Keyaron Fox
Wimbley, Groves & Scott at OLB instead of James Harrison, LaMarr Woodley & Jason Worilds
Desmond Bryant, Jarvis Moss, Thomas Howard & Bruce Davis would NOT be retained! (unfortunately John Henderson is a bad fit for a 3-4 Defense too)
January 24th, 2011 at 7:55 am
GOOOOO PACKERS!
Although they will then have 4 SBs….but better than Pitt getting, what, #7?
jeeez!
January 24th, 2011 at 7:56 am
I didn’t think the Jets O was a good match-up vs the Steelers. Pitt will be challenged by GBs QB and set of receivers, if they could imitate NE’s spread offense, GB easy wins it.
January 24th, 2011 at 7:58 am
Casey Hampton & Chris Hoke at NT is not easy to replicate though … Hampton is a 5x Pro Bowler and 2x Super Bowl champ (going on 3?)
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Hampton is maybe the most underrated player of my lifetime. I seriously think he should be in the Hall of Fame after retirement, no joke. That defense depends on him to eat up two gaps every play.
January 24th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Al Davis taking swipes at Calvin Johnson? WTF? Damn Davis you are an idiot.
Calvin Johnsons first two years:
126 receptions 2087 yards 16 TDs
DHB’s first two years:
35 receptions 490 yards 2 TDs
Give me a fkn break Davis.
January 24th, 2011 at 8:04 am
I think its gonna be a good SuperBowl…Pitts swarming D is gonna test Green Bay’s offense…however, Aaron Rogers is better than Mark Sanchez and have better receivers…we’ll shall see…but still pulling for GB!
January 24th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Dakota Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Al Davis taking swipes at Calvin Johnson? WTF? Damn Davis you are an idiot.
Calvin Johnsons first two years:
126 receptions 2087 yards 16 TDs
DHB’s first two years:
35 receptions 490 yards 2 TDs
Give me a fkn break Davis.
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It’s funny (not really “funny ha-ha” though), but those career numbers for DHB were what I was predicting for his first season alone.
January 24th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Well, isn’t that who Kiff wanted? Maybe that’s why? LOL
I know, yeah…give me a break!
January 24th, 2011 at 8:08 am
we could have had Aaron Rodgers and Calvin in drafts…..makes me wonder
January 24th, 2011 at 8:11 am
OAKlifer Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 8:08 am
we could have had Aaron Rodgers and Calvin in drafts…..makes me wonder
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Not satisfied with Fabian Washington and JaMarcus Russell? LOL.
January 24th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Labaue was one of the worst hc in football in cincinnati no way would I ever want him running my beloved raiders. Hu Jack city will be a much better hc.
Screw Hu?????!!!?!? Wow. All he did we make chicken salad ou of chicken ish. Doesn’t even have his guys to run his offense and gave us the # 6 scoring offense in the league, behind one of the worst olines in football.
Some folks have no clue
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Mistic, where to begin?
I have given a BEAT DOWN to every Hue Jax boot licker in here since before we ever announced he would become Head Coach. I’m sure you’ve read my material since you’re here every day – remain in the dark if you wish
Re: Dick LeBeau
is Bill Belichick the same HC for the Pats that he was for the Cleveland Browns?
Compare Pete Carroll as HC from Jets & Pats to USC & Seattle
Dick LeBeau 2000-2002 would be the same HC today for a team other than the Cincy Bungles ???
LOL!
January 24th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Dick LeBeau not ready to talk about contract status
Pittsburgh Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau downplayed speculation that he could leave the team for another after the season.
ESPN reported on Sunday that LeBeau’s contract will expire after this season, which will end on Feb. 6 when the Steelers play the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XLV.
LeBeau was asked about the possibility of moving to the Philadelphia Eagles next season.
“If I’m in the state of Pennsylvania, I’m going to be in Pittsburgh,” LeBeau told the Philadelphia Inquirer.
Last week, LeBeau, 73, told USA TODAY he wasn’t ready to talk about a potential retirement.
“Well, I have a standard retort to that. Hell, I’m not even the oldest coach in the state of Pennsylvania. There’s a guy up there at Penn State that’s 10 years older than me,” LeBeau said, referring to the Nittany Lions’ Joe Paterno, 84. “I feel like the baby.”
By Sean Leahy, USA TODAY
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yeah baby. go get’em Al
Screw Hue!
January 24th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Not satisfied with Fabian Washington and JaMarcus Russell? LOL.
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No not really.. LOL it just makes me wonder while there are no sure things There are a number of cant miss targets in every draft and untill last year we we horrible a finding them.
offtopic…
Man I wish we would have drafted or had Keshon Johnson for a while anyone ever read the DP interveiw with him he wanted to be a Raider so bad!
January 24th, 2011 at 8:25 am
I have it recorded that RaiderRockstar believes we will only go 4-12 next year under Hue Jackson.
I think he will be wrong.
January 24th, 2011 at 8:30 am
I have it recorded that RaiderRockstar believes we will only go 4-12 next year under Hue Jackson.
I think he will be wrong.
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I hope so!
I am 100 percent certain we won’t finish with 8 or more wins …
January 24th, 2011 at 8:36 am
DP: Do you still feel like a Raider or a Raider-type of player? You once told me that you wishedyou had been drafted by them. Do you think you’ll end up there?
KJ: I was brought up watching and following the Raiders by living in Los Angeles. I wasnt a lamb fan. It was USC. It was the Coliseum. It was the whole Marcus Allen thing. Thier home staduim was across the the street from where I grew up. My attitude fit that image of a Raider. When I look at my self on a football field , I see myself as a nasty reciever. I Play like a wide reciever thats a linebacker. I’ll block all that attitude, to me is a Raider attitude.
January 24th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think our schedule next year looks something like this:
HOME:
Chiefs
Broncos
Chargers
Bills
Dolphins
Packers
Vikings
Browns
AWAY:
Chiefs
Broncos
Chargers
Jets
Patriots
Lions
Bears
Texans
That’s a tough damn schedule. 4-12 is a very real possibility if Hue doesn’t have this team up and ready!
January 24th, 2011 at 8:38 am
I am 100 percent certain we won’t finish with 8 or more wins …
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Not even 8-8 Double R?
even with Aso gone we can muster up 8 wins.
January 24th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Dakota,
we announced yet another HC that did fairly well as a position coach that totes the company line. He’s not even a qualified Coordinator, let alone HC material … but I was willing to give him another year as OC to get our passing game on track
I don’t understand how YOU PEOPLE expect to be in the playoffs with a hot mess at QB, WR & OL (and our Pro Bowl TE is a FA!)
and how do you expect to retain #2 rushing team in the NFL with Bush & Reece FA’s and 4 new starters on the O-Line ??? and a new position coach
Tom Cable is the CEILING for Hue Jackson as far as wins & losses. Lets just replace the loser NOW! Al Davis could use the Roids thing to avoid paying Hue Hax’s Head Coach pay for a week or however long it’s been
January 24th, 2011 at 8:49 am
even with Aso gone we can muster up 8 wins
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OAKlifer,
thats like saying Pro Bowl starter and highest paid CB Nnamdi Asomugha was a complete NON-FACTOR this season.
I don’t think that’s fair bro. Our secondary gave up like 29 TD’s through the air and I think Nnamdi was only responsible for 1 of them and it was against Larry Fitzgerald!
without NA21 I think we’d give up a league high 34+
January 24th, 2011 at 8:51 am
I could list a dozen coaches I would rather have than Hue Jackson, but to pretend that he is something less or equal to Tom Cable is just ridiculous.
Merely hearing the man speak you can tell he is much more intelligent and together than the Wife Beating Buffoon.
I suggest you give the man at least half a season before making such judgments. Then again, I called it on Tom Cable after about 2 weeks….
January 24th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Hey RR, calm down bud!
regarding the Roids thing, that was the first thing I thought of when I heard about it, old Al has an out!
Well, off to the airport, headin to the dominican, back in time for the SB.
Cheers all!!
January 24th, 2011 at 8:59 am
thats like saying Pro Bowl starter and highest paid CB Nnamdi Asomugha was a complete NON-FACTOR this season.
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I think he was a huge factor I understand that only having half the field too work with in a HUGE atvantage/factor. But either he comes back for cheaper or we fill out our roster with two or three talented players for that 16 mill. I also firmly believe Reece will be back along with Z Miller Davis is in love with our FB and he wont let Miller walk. Hue brings continuity Saunders brings Experince. when I say muster up I ment it next year will be tough With out Aso and a few O-line replacements But our O-line replacements should be better and our Dfense might change a bit with out a TOP COVER corner we might not be able to just play man and have to switch it up a bit wich could lead to a better out come defensivly.. we’ll see I guess but 4-12 is not fair 8-8 seems more realistic.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Cant believe the Queer-lers made it to the SB with such a weak-arse offense! Praying for a Green Bay victory to shut the mouths of these one-tooth wonders I have to listen to all year long…
Superbowls dont mean shiz-nit if you dont win… remember the last Raiders debochle… Love to see Sh%ttsburgh with a big ‘L’ on their SB record… Knockin of Seven’s door… give me an F-ing break!…
Bottom line on last nights game… “F those F-in F-ers!!”
Go Silver & Black!!
January 24th, 2011 at 9:14 am
I think there’s a good chance the Raiders will get Nnamdi back for cheaper while still paying him just as much, if not more, than any other team would.
However, if he leaves and the Raiders use his money to sign Jonathan Joseph and/or Richard Marshall, maybe draft Jimmy Smith or the best CB on the board in the 2nd or 3rd round, there might not be a HUGE drop off. But that’s assuming that the rest of the defense continues to improve.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:14 am
RRS,
Why so down on Hue?
I think we’ll be better prepared, organized and efficient with Hue at the helm. One of the most dangerous offenses in the league.
Defense is a bit up in the air, but what else is new?
Hue’s playcalling wasn’t perfect, but the Rah-Rah thing is done. Hue will motivate without the pom poms and he gets after the D as well during practice.
I don’t see how we could not improve.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:16 am
2.) CB Jimmy Smith (Colorado) or OG/C Stephen Wisniewski (Penn State)
3.) OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin) or OLB Greg Jones (Michigan State)
4.) OG/OT Lee Ziemba (Auburn)
January 24th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Morning peoples!
Well, I was right about GB, but wrong about the Jets.
I still like GB to win the super bowl. That D is playing well + you have Aaron Rodgers at QB.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:17 am
I could list a dozen coaches I would rather have than Hue Jackson, but to pretend that he is something less or equal to Tom Cable is just ridiculous.
Merely hearing the man speak you can tell he is much more intelligent and together than the Wife Beating Buffoon.
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Dakota,
I am NOT a Tom Cable fan or supporter. My comments about Hue Jackson in comparison to TC are a reflection of how I feel about HJ …
Screw Hue!
January 24th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Hue>Cable
January 24th, 2011 at 9:19 am
I’m (surprisingly) comfortable with Jason under center. I don’t know that we’ll need 4 new starters on O LIne, either and I’m confident Hue will have us going in the right direction.
Is it a coincidence that Hue comes to town and we more than double PPG, Jason looks more than solid down the stretch, McFadden gets 1000+ yards, and Reece is utilized like the deadly weapon he is (and I expect more of him in 2011)?
My prediction: More efficiency in the passing game, better pass protection, more Bush sprinkled in with McFadden, more Reece and here’s the dark horse: improved WR play. Even if we don’t replace anyone from that group.
I think Hue will get the most out of DHB, if Chaz stays healthy, he proves he’s a legit #1 and the progression of J Ford.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:20 am
I have my doubts about Hue, but I’m going to be optimistic until he gives me a reason not to be.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:20 am
I find it HILARIOUS that you guys would rather have Hue Jackson & Winston Moss as HC & DC than Dick LeBeau and Keith Butler …
January 24th, 2011 at 9:22 am
Dick LeBeau isn’t coming to Oakland.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:23 am
I’m (surprisingly) comfortable with Jason under center. I don’t know that we’ll need 4 new starters on O LIne
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I agree with both of these things. I at least advocate rolling with Campbell in light of the fact that there are no other realistic better options.
As for the o-line, it wouldn’t surprise me if replacements need to be made, most of them come from within.
I could see Campbell replacing Carlisle and Henderson replacing Walker. From what Jerry’s revealed about Al’s thinking on the matter, I’d say those are even likely.
I think Gallery goes to Seattle. Whether we replace him through the draft or free agency should be worth keeping an eye on.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:24 am
29 passing td surrendered. Zero against area 21! This speaks for itself. Its not the scheme its the execution. Having said that I would love to see Al bring in someone from that bears staff. 4-3 front that can teach the cover two, this would allow a nice mix in coverage along with our staple man press. we could also disguise pre snap.
Outside of that lets go winston moss
January 24th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Dick LeBeau isn’t coming to Oakland
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I know that, YA.
It’s a pipe dream – like you guys thinking we’ll win 8 or more games with Rookie HC Boo Jackson in 2011!
January 24th, 2011 at 9:27 am
435.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:20 am
I find it HILARIOUS that you guys would rather have Hue Jackson & Winston Moss as HC & DC than Dick LeBeau and Keith Butler …
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I find it hilarious that you waste your time thinking about such fanciful things.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:27 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:20 am
I find it HILARIOUS that you guys would rather have Hue Jackson & Winston Moss as HC & DC than Dick LeBeau and Keith Butler …
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i dont get it at all. Number 6 scoring offense in the nfl, whats not to like. This while taking over a team with piss poor pass protection, and one reciever worth a damn.
By the way lebeau is 153 years old, and has only had one shot to be an hc. Was a miserable flop, and you want him?
wow
January 24th, 2011 at 9:28 am
would love to see Al bring in someone from that bears staff. 4-3 front that can teach the cover two, this would allow a nice mix in coverage along with our staple man press.
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“Bob Babich enters his seventh year as an assistant coach with Chicago and fifth year of working with the linebackers. The first assistant to join Lovie Smith’s inaugural coaching staff, Babich was initially hired by the Bears on January 17, 2004, as the team’s linebackers coach. He added the title of assistant head coach for the 2006 season in which Chicago advanced to the Super Bowl for the first time in 21 years. Babich assumed responsibility as the Bears defense coordinator on February 20, 2007, a title he held for two seasons. In 2008, he once again oversaw the linebackers while handling the duties of defensive coordinator.
During Babich’s six years with the team, the Bears linebacker corps has been arguably the most productive in the NFL”
http://www.chicagobears.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=5
January 24th, 2011 at 9:30 am
LA to TheBay Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:19 am
I’m (surprisingly) comfortable with Jason under center. I don’t know that we’ll need 4 new starters on O LIne, either and I’m confident Hue will have us going in the right direction.
Is it a coincidence that Hue comes to town and we more than double PPG, Jason looks more than solid down the stretch, McFadden gets 1000+ yards, and Reece is utilized like the deadly weapon he is (and I expect more of him in 2011)?
My prediction: More efficiency in the passing game, better pass protection, more Bush sprinkled in with McFadden, more Reece and here’s the dark horse: improved WR play. Even if we don’t replace anyone from that group.
I think Hue will get the most out of DHB, if Chaz stays healthy, he proves he’s a legit #1 and the progression of J Ford.
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What the hell???!?!? Who is pretending to be L.A & chenneling thier inner SupaVillain? Feeding the board the same things I have said since day one?
January 24th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Hue Jackson isn’t some no-named douche bag like Tom Cable was when he was hired. People have been looking at Hue as a potential HC for a few years now. Does that mean he will have success? No. Does it mean he has potential? Absolutely.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3920792
January 24th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Meh, I’ll reserve my judgment on Hue for after I see how he and Al handle free agency, the draft, training camp, and the first stretch of the season.
He’s no more or less qualified than Gruden was when he took over in 1998, so who knows.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Am I alone in thinking the offensive line is pretty much settled outside of left guard?
Veldheer-?????-Satele-Campbell-Henderson
I can’t see it falling out much different. Satele has a good thing working here. Al wants to see Campbell and Henderson play. Veldheer is intrenched.
Gallery staying or going is the only question mark….trade up for Mike Pouncey!
January 24th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Henderson is a free agent, or maybe a restricted FA depending on what the new CBA says…and he hired Drew Rosenhaus as his agent. He might get the Walker treatment….let someone else overpay him.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Posted by Andy Benoit
Sounds like a slew of former NFL players and overactive Twitter users might owe Jay Cutler an apology. According to Sean Jensen of the Chicago Sun Times, the Bears quarterback suffered an MCL tear in Sunday’s NFC Championship game.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Dakota Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Henderson is a free agent, or maybe a restricted FA depending on what the new CBA says…and he hired Drew Rosenhaus as his agent. He might get the Walker treatment….let someone else overpay him.
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Pretty sure he’s a restricted free agent as of now, which is what I’m going on until the new CBA is in place.
I wish we could let someone else overpay him, but Al seems like to the guy and wanted to see him starting at RT over Walker. Don’t see him letting Henderson go.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:44 am
2- Stephen Wisniewski (OG/C Penn State)
3- Pat Devlin (QB Delaware) / Colin Kaepernick (QB Nevada)
4- Davon House (CB New Mexico State)
5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida)
7- D.J. Holt (ILB Cal)
& Sign Ochocinco in free agency. Holt allows us to experiement more with 3-4 (though we’d still need a true NT) and provides depth. Gilbert is a RT with experience at G. House is a tall cover corner with ball skills. We need a QB to develop and these are two good options in the 3rd round (hopefully). I’m inclined to prefer Kaepernick. And I like Wisneiwski to help our Oline this year at either G or C (probably C).
Thoughts?
January 24th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Im not sold on veldeheer at left tackle, he gave up 11 sacks in 10 games, that was worse than hendersons 9.5 sacks in 16 games 2009
January 24th, 2011 at 9:45 am
with Hue Jackson heading in 2011 it looks like the Raider Nation is forced to assume the following:
-Michael Bush, Marcel Reece & Zach Miller are locks to be re-signed on offense.
-We aren’t worried about the following defensive players being free agents, because we’ll either re-sign them all or upgrade in the draft or free agency: Richard Seymour, John Henderson, Kamerion Wimbley, Stanford Routt, Michael Huff & Nnamdi Asomugha
-Hue Jackson will milk some production out of Darrius Heyward-Bey or bring in Chad OchoCinco to replace him in the starting line-up
-All of the zbs clowns that Cable brought in who could run block, but couldn’t pass protect or stay penalty free will be UPGRADED and the running game won’t take a dive. The passing game will be much improved, despite the same guys at QB & WR
-Chaz Schilens will stay healthy and Murphy wont drop so many balls
-Hue Jackson wont bench Jason Campbell 3 times for an injury prone guy with half the talent
-Whoever Hue Jax chooses to replace Paul Hackett & Jim Michalczik on Offense will be significant upgrades
-Whoever Hue Jax chooses to replace John Marshall & Mike Haluchak on Defense will be significant upgrades
-We will win more than 8 games in 2011
Anything I missed ???
January 24th, 2011 at 9:46 am
451.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Im not sold on veldeheer at left tackle, he gave up 11 sacks in 10 games, that was worse than hendersons 9.5 sacks in 16 games 2009
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Plus a ton of penalties.
He needs to improve dramatically before he is pronounced the LT of the future.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:47 am
446.SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Am I alone in thinking the offensive line is pretty much settled outside of left guard?
Veldheer-?????-Satele-Campbell-Henderson
I can’t see it falling out much different. Satele has a good thing working here. Al wants to see Campbell and Henderson play. Veldheer is intrenched.
Gallery staying or going is the only question mark….trade up for Mike Pouncey!
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I’d take Wisniewski over Pouncy. Dont like Henderson @ rt. We don’t know if Campbell can even play G in the NFL.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:47 am
RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…) Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:44 am
2- Stephen Wisniewski (OG/C Penn State)
3- Pat Devlin (QB Delaware) / Colin Kaepernick (QB Nevada)
4- Davon House (CB New Mexico State)
5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida)
7- D.J. Holt (ILB Cal)
& Sign Ochocinco in free agency. Holt allows us to experiement more with 3-4 (though we’d still need a true NT) and provides depth. Gilbert is a RT with experience at G. House is a tall cover corner with ball skills. We need a QB to develop and these are two good options in the 3rd round (hopefully). I’m inclined to prefer Kaepernick. And I like Wisneiwski to help our Oline this year at either G or C (probably C).
Thoughts?
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I cant see wasting our 2nd pick on a qb that has no shot of ever being an nfl starter. Qb class is terrible outside of newton. We need to use our picks on the o line lb and secondary.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Im not sold on veldeheer at left tackle, he gave up 11 sacks in 10 games, that was worse than hendersons 9.5 sacks in 16 games 2009
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Where’d you get those numbers? Not doubting you, just been looking for a site that provides that kind of data.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:48 am
453.Dakota Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:46 am
451.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Im not sold on veldeheer at left tackle, he gave up 11 sacks in 10 games, that was worse than hendersons 9.5 sacks in 16 games 2009
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Plus a ton of penalties.
He needs to improve dramatically before he is pronounced the LT of the future.
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Yep. The O-line is far form settled. We need to draft 2 more this year.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Dont like Henderson @ rt. We don’t know if Campbell can even play G in the NFL.
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Not about what we want. Al wants Henderson at RT and Campbell at RG.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:49 am
I actually thougth veldeheer was good at right tackle in the preseason when he lined up next to b campbell.
Satele cant be our starting center, he doesnt fit the power running scheme. he is a zone guy, we wont be doing that bs anymore ( thank god).
That loser cable is gone, and all of his pets need to go with him
January 24th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:47 am
RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…) Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:44 am
2- Stephen Wisniewski (OG/C Penn State)
3- Pat Devlin (QB Delaware) / Colin Kaepernick (QB Nevada)
4- Davon House (CB New Mexico State)
5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida)
7- D.J. Holt (ILB Cal)
& Sign Ochocinco in free agency. Holt allows us to experiement more with 3-4 (though we’d still need a true NT) and provides depth. Gilbert is a RT with experience at G. House is a tall cover corner with ball skills. We need a QB to develop and these are two good options in the 3rd round (hopefully). I’m inclined to prefer Kaepernick. And I like Wisneiwski to help our Oline this year at either G or C (probably C).
Thoughts?
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I cant see wasting our 2nd pick on a qb that has no shot of ever being an nfl starter. Qb class is terrible outside of newton. We need to use our picks on the o line lb and secondary.
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I see your point, not sure I agree. Who would you take in round three then? Thoughts on the rest of my wish list?
January 24th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Not about what we want. Al wants Henderson at RT and Campbell at RG
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Agreed with PA!
Unfortunately …
January 24th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I see your point, not sure I agree. Who would you take in round three then? Thoughts on the rest of my wish list?
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OLB akeem ayers ucla, or herzlick from bc
January 24th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Lol Rockstar,
Almost all of those supposed “issues” would be the same had anyone been named Raiders HC. Of course there are a ton of questions going into 2011…the same things would be issues if Lombardi himself had been resurrected to coach the team.
We have free agents? OMG!
We don’t have a great QB? OMG!
We are replacing garbage coaches like Marshall? OMG!
I don’t see anything on your list that scares me.
But then again, I don’t expect them to win playoff games next year. The schedule is much more difficult than last year, and we are not going undefeated in the AFC West again, no matter who our HC is. But maybe Hue will be the guy we can build on for the future. Cable had no future.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:58 am
I definitely see Al drafting Rashard Carmichael, CB out of Vtech. Alot of scouts are predicting him to have the fastest 40-time at the combine, nuff said. He is looking like a 3rd rounder, if he does in fact run well.
January 24th, 2011 at 9:59 am
458.SilverNBlackPA Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Dont like Henderson @ rt. We don’t know if Campbell can even play G in the NFL.
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Not about what we want. Al wants Henderson at RT and Campbell at RG.
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Not sure Al wants Hendo on the Right.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:00 am
I think you’re in for a pleasant surprise, RRS (assuming there’s football next year).
January 24th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Not sure how I feel about Gallery, would like him to stay at a reasonable price.. If his price is too high, bring in a PROVEN guard.
IMO Campbell should have had some playing time to get a feel as to where he is in his development.. There was no hesitating in throwing Veldheer to the lions…
Give Veldheer a shot at LT maybe move over to the right to replace Henderson / Walker.. neither of which I hope are in a starting role this year…
Would love to see Wisnewski come in, but dont count on him being around in the second round… His uncle was as solid as they come…
We NEED another stellar draft like last year’s!…
January 24th, 2011 at 10:04 am
I don’t expect them to win playoff games next year. The schedule is much more difficult than last year, and we are not going undefeated in the AFC West again, no matter who our HC is. But maybe Hue will be the guy we can build on for the future. Cable had no future
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Lakota,
Regardless of the schedule, any less than 8 wins is a step backwards. A step in the WRONG direction
8 wins = might as well keep the doofus O-Line coach in Seattle
January 24th, 2011 at 10:05 am
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/23682/no-burn-zone-in-oakland
Oakland’s CB stats this year. Sure didn’t seem they were playing this way, but it makes sense when I think about a quote I believe Brian Billick said on NFL Network, something like “It’s not how many great plays you make, it’s about not giving up too many bad ones.”
January 24th, 2011 at 10:07 am
The fat monkey wife beatin ho hittin nympho is a great zbs line coach…
Hue does need to go 10-6 or better to save his azz and prove he is a real hc.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:08 am
468.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:04 am
I don’t expect them to win playoff games next year. The schedule is much more difficult than last year, and we are not going undefeated in the AFC West again, no matter who our HC is. But maybe Hue will be the guy we can build on for the future. Cable had no future
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Lakota,
Regardless of the schedule, any less than 8 wins is a step backwards. A step in the WRONG direction
8 wins = might as well keep the doofus O-Line coach in Seattle
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Very simplistic view IMO. Everything was set in our favor last year and the best we could do under Cable was 8-8. This upcoming year, with Cable and a more difficult schedule = 5-11 at best. There are more factors at play than just the win-loss column. We could be an all around better team next year and go 7-9 simply because we are not going to win every AFC game again, that only happens about once every 35 years, and because we play the NFC North instead of the NFC West next year…you know, the division that had the two best NFC teams in it this past season….
…judging Hue to be the wrong move if our record isn’t 9-7 or better next year is simple ignorance….just like people who were throwing McFadden under the bus before Hue arrived on the scene.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am
This upcoming year, with Cable and a more difficult schedule = 5-11 at best. There are more factors at play than just the win-loss column.
judging Hue to be the wrong move if our record isn’t 9-7 or better next year is simple ignorance
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Al Davis cares about win & losses. PERIOD
true or false ???
January 24th, 2011 at 10:14 am
what y’all whining ’bout “tough schedule”?
if ya wanna sit at the big boy’s table, since there are a limited number of chairs, you have to grow a pair and be willing to toss somebody out on their a$$ in order to get seated.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Green Bay said they weren’t letting Aaron Rodgers leave for any trade…don’t know where some of you got your info from.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:16 am
With the turnover in the NFL every year, it may not be the nightmare schedule some expect. Several of those teams are going to be good and we just know that.
Some we expect to be good/improved and maybe they won’t. Some teams go backwards. Hopefully it’s not us. We just need to learn how to hold a lead and finish a team off.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:17 am
472.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am
This upcoming year, with Cable and a more difficult schedule = 5-11 at best. There are more factors at play than just the win-loss column.
judging Hue to be the wrong move if our record isn’t 9-7 or better next year is simple ignorance
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Al Davis cares about win & losses. PERIOD
true or false ???
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Yeah, Al cares about wins and losses….but was Cable fired after going 4-8 or 5-11 his first two years?
Hue isn’t getting fired if he doesn’t win more than 8 games next year.
Jeezuz dude, get a grip.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am
BURN PERCENTAGE
Player Team Targets Completions Yards TDs Burn pct. Pass def.
1. Darrelle Revis Jets 56 19 340 4 33.9 10
2. Terrence McGee Bills 21 8 88 1 38.1 2
3. Stanford Routt Raiders 99 39 635 5 39.4 13
3. Nnamdi Asomugha Raiders 33 13 205 0 39.4 6
5. Brandon Carr Chiefs 108 43 758 6 39.8 25
6. Chris Johnson Raiders 42 17 288 3 40.5 9
January 24th, 2011 at 10:19 am
473.M Lonetree Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:14 am
what y’all whining ’bout “tough schedule”?
if ya wanna sit at the big boy’s table, since there are a limited number of chairs, you have to grow a pair and be willing to toss somebody out on their a$$ in order to get seated.
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Nice M. Agreed.!
January 24th, 2011 at 10:20 am
perhaps one of you labor attorneys in here can explain the CBA negotiations to me.
yes, the issues of rookie caps and 18 games and bigger slices of pie for vets and retirees, less overall pct of revenue for the players etc. appear clear enough.
but, didn’t the players on each team vote unanimously to decertify the player’s union in order to be able to take grievances before Congress?
so, exactly who is Demaurice Smith and who does he represent?
please explain.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:21 am
476.Dakota Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:17 am
472.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:11 am
This upcoming year, with Cable and a more difficult schedule = 5-11 at best. There are more factors at play than just the win-loss column.
judging Hue to be the wrong move if our record isn’t 9-7 or better next year is simple ignorance
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Al Davis cares about win & losses. PERIOD
true or false ???
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Yeah, Al cares about wins and losses….but was Cable fired after going 4-8 or 5-11 his first two years?
Hue isn’t getting fired if he doesn’t win more than 8 games next year.
Jeezuz dude, get a grip.
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Have you met Al Davis? Do yo watch the Raiders?
January 24th, 2011 at 10:22 am
477.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am
BURN PERCENTAGE
Player Team Targets Completions Yards TDs Burn pct. Pass def.
1. Darrelle Revis Jets 56 19 340 4 33.9 10
2. Terrence McGee Bills 21 8 88 1 38.1 2
3. Stanford Routt Raiders 99 39 635 5 39.4 13
3. Nnamdi Asomugha Raiders 33 13 205 0 39.4 6
5. Brandon Carr Chiefs 108 43 758 6 39.8 25
6. Chris Johnson Raiders 42 17 288 3 40.5 9
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We had/have 3 CB’s in the same group as Revis.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:23 am
The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am
BURN PERCENTAGE
Player Team Targets Completions Yards TDs Burn pct. Pass def.
1. Darrelle Revis Jets 56 19 340 4 33.9 10
2. Terrence McGee Bills 21 8 88 1 38.1 2
3. Stanford Routt Raiders 99 39 635 5 39.4 13
3. Nnamdi Asomugha Raiders 33 13 205 0 39.4 6
5. Brandon Carr Chiefs 108 43 758 6 39.8 25
6. Chris Johnson Raiders 42 17 288 3 40.5 9
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Source Link:
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/23682/no-burn-zone-in-oakland
January 24th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Is a combo of Hue Jackson, Al Saunder and DC X better than a combo of Tom Cable, Hue Jackson and Marshall?
Pretty much put any DC’s name in there and I guarantee the team will be better coached next year. Hue is clearly more intelligent than Tom Cable, and is a guy that can get the players motivated….which Cable could not do. Saunders is a better OC than Hue, so that is an upgrade too. Now we just have to find a DC who can somehow do better than the bottom 3rd against the run and you have improved the three most important coaching positions on the team.
Does that guarantee more victories? No. Schedule is different, players will be different. But I would certainly put my money on this new crew over a coaching staff that included such garbage POS coaches like Tom Cable and Marshall.
Get rid of Lal, Fassel and Roll and now we are really talking about progress.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:45 am
that link above to burn pct goes a long way to demonstrating just how many people on this site know so little of which they opine.
all of the “Routt is terrible”, and “Nnamdi is overrated”, and “Johnson stinks” comments are shown for what they are, foolish and wrong.
too bad Williamson didn’t show the other end of the list, the maximum burn pct. as well.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:45 am
397.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 7:40 am
I also think it’s really interesting that the steelers play the same brand of football since the knoll era & people on this board say nothing. A few minor tweaks on offense but still pressure qb stuff the run on defense. Run first offense qb 20 -25 throws a game.
Noone says it’s out dated.
When al Davis sticks to his formula peope say it’s 70’s football. Check yourselves impostors, 70’s football still works. Now the hated steelers are on their way to yet another bowl appearance.
Comical
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OK, for the moment let’s give you the benefit of the doubt (except of course the Raiders’ run defense has been atrocious for years). Why, then, aren’t the Raiders as successful as the Steelers? They were well-matched, dominant franchises in the 70s, so what happened?
January 24th, 2011 at 10:48 am
484.M Lonetree Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:45 am
that link above to burn pct goes a long way to demonstrating just how many people on this site know so little of which they opine.
all of the “Routt is terrible”, and “Nnamdi is overrated”, and “Johnson stinks” comments are shown for what they are, foolish and wrong.
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Yeah, those guy were almost as foolish and wrong as the Darren McFadden haters….
January 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
481.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:22 am
477.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am
BURN PERCENTAGE
Player Team Targets Completions Yards TDs Burn pct. Pass def.
1. Darrelle Revis Jets 56 19 340 4 33.9 10
2. Terrence McGee Bills 21 8 88 1 38.1 2
3. Stanford Routt Raiders 99 39 635 5 39.4 13
3. Nnamdi Asomugha Raiders 33 13 205 0 39.4 6
5. Brandon Carr Chiefs 108 43 758 6 39.8 25
6. Chris Johnson Raiders 42 17 288 3 40.5 9
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We had/have 3 CB’s in the same group as Revis.
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Not true, Revis covers the opponents #1 receiver. Routt and Johnson cover 2nd a 3rd options.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:55 am
But in plain English it shows Nnamdi giving up 0 Td’s this year. Impressive.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Al cares about wins and losses….but was Cable fired after going 4-8 or 5-11 his first two years?
Hue isn’t getting fired if he doesn’t win more than 8 games next year.
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Dakota,
Bill Callahan was fired for going 4-12 a year after going 13-6 (Super Bowl!)
Norv Turner won 9 games in 2 years – FIRED
Art Shell 2 wins in 1 year – FIRED
Lane Kiffin won 5/20 games – FIRED
Tom Cable won 8/28 games in 2 years … retained for a 3rd season to go 8-8 = FIRED
How long do you think Hue Jackson’s leash is ???
January 24th, 2011 at 10:58 am
You can prove just about anything with statistics.
People were all over Branch for giving up 8 TDs this season. Routt gave up 5.
How many third-down conversions did he give up? How many times did he get called for pass interference? How many tackles did he fail to make?
If John Marshall gets unending grief for the five-safety set against Jacksonville, why doesn’t Routt get the same for leaving Dwayne Bowe completely uncovered in the first KC game? You’re in man coverage 90% of the time! How do you let your only assignment run unimpeded into the end zone?
Routt improved dramatically this season, and would be a starting CB for most teams. But for the way the Raiders want to play defense, he’s a less than ideal fit.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Alright Rockstar…Hue goes 7-9 or 8-8 next year you are on record that Al will fire him.
Marked it down.
Guess we might see.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:58 am
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Not true, Revis covers the opponents #1 receiver. Routt and Johnson cover 2nd a 3rd options.
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Revis doesn’t always cover the team’s #1 receiver. The Jets/Pats game they stuck Revis on Branch and doubled Welker. The previous game they put Revis on Welker and he had problems in traffic staying with Welker (too many bodies). Kinda changed my opinion that Aso should have always cover the teams #1 guy.
January 24th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Yeah, nice link. There were a lot of Routt haters in here.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/23682/no-burn-zone-in-oakland
January 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Again, reasons why we are not switching to the 3-4 in my opinion. Football Outsiders has the Oakland defense ranked #1 in rushing the passer and #4 in stuffing the run. They get these numbers by isolating long runs that are the fault of the back 7.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl
Waufle is doing an amazing job with these guys, just need to get the LB’s and secondary on the same page
January 24th, 2011 at 11:08 am
487.Raider 510 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
481.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:22 am
477.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am
BURN PERCENTAGE
Player Team Targets Completions Yards TDs Burn pct. Pass def.
1. Darrelle Revis Jets 56 19 340 4 33.9 10
2. Terrence McGee Bills 21 8 88 1 38.1 2
3. Stanford Routt Raiders 99 39 635 5 39.4 13
3. Nnamdi Asomugha Raiders 33 13 205 0 39.4 6
5. Brandon Carr Chiefs 108 43 758 6 39.8 25
6. Chris Johnson Raiders 42 17 288 3 40.5 9
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We had/have 3 CB’s in the same group as Revis.
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Not true, Revis covers the opponents #1 receiver. Routt and Johnson cover 2nd a 3rd options.
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You need to look at the “targeted” and the “pass defenced” vs the “completed” colum. If a pass was thrown, but not caught OR defended it is of no cause of the CB, prolly just a bad throw.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:08 am
The long runs are hardly all the back 7’s fault.
This scheme doesn’t work because LBs are not allowed to blitz unless their man stays in to block, and the defensive line doesn’t play with gap discipline.
Cutback runners have a field day against the Raider defense because the linemen all follow the ball carrier instead of staying within their gaps, and with one cut the runner can change direction faster than the big linemen can, and since it’s all man coverage behind there’s usually a nice soft spot in the middle of the field.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:09 am
‘Sup fellas.
The thing Williamson’s article leave out is PI. and penalty yardage. The Raider corners get flagged for some very costly penalties. The Colts game for example, they were playing very good pass D, actually.
Turned P. Manning into a 50 % passer.
However, they had two huge and critical PI go against them.
Routt especially. I’ve called Routt a very frustrating player. He has the size and speed to be a perfect bump and run CB. His man to man coverage skills are improving every year. He could be excellent.
However, even when he is in perfect position, he tends to grab and hold even when he doesn’t need to. Or he doesn’t get his head around in time.
What’s even worse is he seems to have gotten that reputation with the officials because he gets flagged for any contact possible, stuff other even lesser corners might get away with.
If he could master some of the finer points of corner play, like when to turn his head and make a play on the ball he could be an excellent cover corner.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Note on the D-line stats, despite being the #4 ranked defensive line against the run, we were ranked 31st in open-field runs (runs over 10 yards from the line of scrimmage) last year and 13 in 2nd level yards (5-10 yards from LOS). Clearly the run defense failure is coming from the LB’s and secondary’s inability to prevent long runs.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Wonder where Huff, Mitchell and Branch stand in the safeties’ burn zone standings?
January 24th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Raider 510 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:54 am
481.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:22 am
477.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am
BURN PERCENTAGE
Player Team Targets Completions Yards TDs Burn pct. Pass def.
1. Darrelle Revis Jets 56 19 340 4 33.9 10
2. Terrence McGee Bills 21 8 88 1 38.1 2
3. Stanford Routt Raiders 99 39 635 5 39.4 13
3. Nnamdi Asomugha Raiders 33 13 205 0 39.4 6
5. Brandon Carr Chiefs 108 43 758 6 39.8 25
6. Chris Johnson Raiders 42 17 288 3 40.5 9
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We had/have 3 CB’s in the same group as Revis.
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Not true, Revis covers the opponents #1 receiver. Routt and Johnson cover 2nd a 3rd options.
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That’s not true at all.
Nnamdi covers whoever’s on his side and Routt/Johnson whoever’s on their side.
If anything, Nnamdi’s numbers may look a bit better than they should because he DOESN’T cover the #1 exclusively.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Clearly the run defense failure is coming from the LB’s and secondary’s inability to prevent long runs.
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When the defensive line allows blockers to get to the second level on a consistent basis, this is what will happen.
Again, the linemen are concerned with shedding blocks, not occupying blockers so that the linebackers can come in and make tackles. Unfortunately, that is how every successful NFL defense works. But Al values his scheme over actual success.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Dang! … If you give a Pig A Pancake!
January 24th, 2011 at 11:17 am
So our O-line was 5th in rushing to the left, and 15th rushing to the right. Hmm Way to go CC and LW.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Young American,
Very good points. I see our D-line going for broke on most downs. They penetrate and get after the RB in the backfield, which sometimes allows for a TFL and sometimes allows him to get way downfield with a caravan of blockers. But the fact that our D-line is pretty solid statistically, and Al has been very complimentary of them lately, makes me think that the changes will be in the LB corps and secondary, rather than switching to a 3-4.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Besides, stats are for losers.
Bottom line, offense will only get better. More passing TDs, fewer turnovers, more Mike Bush.
Defensive line can get to the QB and stuff the run. We were solid against the run save for a few long ones. Better DC, better WLB and the secondary HAS to play more disciplined.
Special teams needs to prevent the big returns. Jacoby is obviously the guy at KR. Prob PR as well.
Oakland should improve next year.
Go Raiders.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Think Al is waiting for Winston Moss.
Gave props to Waffles and Ross.
Personel in the secondary is fine, just needs to be more organized. D Line looked great.
LB is the area that needs biggest improvement.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:29 am
New York Jets defensive backs coach Dennis Thurman worked with Jackson on the staffs of USC (2000) and the Ravens (2008).
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LA, here’s your new DC
the Jets are out, so expect an interview with Al Davis in 3 days or less
January 24th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Cool, let’s rock and roll.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
The one change to this team that would provide for the biggest improvement, is to have Hue and our new DC convince Al to mix up the coverage in the secondary.
We have the #1 ranked defensive line against the pass, we have 3 of the top 6 CB’s in burn percentage in the league, and yet our defense is ALWAYS in the bottom of the league. The difference between the success of a guy like Revis, and our CB’s is that Revis is a dangerous CB that teams are forced to engage because of the scheme. Our guys defend the ball well their man from play-to-play, but there are still plenty of holes in the defense for a QB to pick apart.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
I expect the team to be a top offensive unit and a middle-of-the-pack defense.
Great at home, decent on the road.
The progression of Ronaldo McClain and Goethel will be crucial.
I’d like to see Raiders get two new LBs as well, as Wimbley and Groves are pass ruch specialists (although I really like Wimbley).
January 24th, 2011 at 11:38 am
This isn’t going to sit well with #21 boot licking fools. Very good point nevertheless.
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LA to TheBay Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 11:13 am
If anything, Nnamdi’s numbers may look a bit better than they should because he DOESN’T cover the #1 exclusively.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Middle Linebackers really need to be good at reading formations. No rookie is going to be good at that.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:41 am
KK, you dont have the slightest clue what your talking about.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:45 am
510.LA to TheBay Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 11:33 am
I expect the team to be a top offensive unit and a middle-of-the-pack defense.
Great at home, decent on the road.
The progression of Ronaldo McClain and Goethel will be crucial.
I’d like to see Raiders get two new LBs as well, as Wimbley and Groves are pass ruch specialists (although I really like Wimbley).
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LA do you really think Goethel is going to be a NFL player? I am not being an azz, I am just askin. I don’t see it.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:47 am
512.KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Middle Linebackers really need to be good at reading formations. No rookie is going to be good at that.
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So whats that speaker in thier helmets for?
January 24th, 2011 at 11:49 am
We already have a Defensive Coordinator, he is 90 years old and has no clue as to how to stop the run. Bringing in YESMAN assistants has never-ever changed the fact that the Raiders D can’t stop the run.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:52 am
The speaker in their helmet is for the DC to call plays, but that doesn’t make a rookie player instinctual, it help I’m sure.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Macho Man has more experience in the NFL at evaluating talent then an 81 year old hall of famer . What NFL team do you work for??????
January 24th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Rookie QB’s have speaker’s in their helmets, too.
January 24th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Lynn
Do you think Davis’ fingers allow him to use a computer mouse, or does he need to use a computer?
What does he do all day?
January 24th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Zero experience at evaluating NFL talent. Some experience at looking at numbers. Raiders give up rushing yards, don’t need to work for an NFL team to know that.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Not to get down on Al, but if talent wins games, then judging by the last 2 decades, somebody is not doing a good job evaluating talent.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
I agree, KK. The game will slow down a bit for Rolando (despite his contention that the SEC is just as fast). He got better and better against the pass as the year went on (notice we didn’t have RBs catching screens and outlet passes for 20+ all season?).
Wasn’t really asked to do a lot against the run and when it was his gap or when he had a chance to smash through, didn’t really ‘pull the trigger’ as Cable would say.
I think he’ll improve.
Rather interested to see what Goethel brings to the table. Guy missed have the season with back issues and never really had a chance to settle in.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I love reading stuff like this…
murph918 L.J. Murphy
I like our new HC..he’s a major reason y we turned things around this year on offense…he’s a great coach
January 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Raccoon,
I liked what I saw in preseason, which wasn’t much.
I remember watching a college game of his and he seemed very instinctive and stout against the run.
Don’t have much confidence in Wimbley and Groves being run stuffers, so I’d like to see what the rook has got.
I think in a few years, this draft class will prove to be one of our best.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
524.Raider75 Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
I love reading stuff like this…
murph918 L.J. Murphy
I like our new HC..he’s a major reason y we turned things around this year on offense…he’s a great coach
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they avg.25 pt`s a game somebody has to fet credit for that.
January 24th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
All I know is that in a year or two our owner will call a presser where he will again humiliate himself publically and embarrass every one of us fans by accusing Hue Jackson of something farfetched and take his money…wake me up when the nightmare is over!
January 24th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
So the last coachch got 3 years, but this one will get 1 or 2?
Cmon mayne!
3 years from now, if Jackson has not had a winning season, he should be fired. Just like he said at the presser.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
so cable breaking a guys jaw and beating woman is farfetched.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Wauffle is pretty much going to have carte blance with the Dline. Moving Winbley and Groves back to DE full time is a good idea.
I’d like to see if Goethel can live up to the hype. Is Thomas Howard really not the WLB we’ve been asking for?
January 24th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
An ideal LB would be 6-2 6-3 6-4 265 lbs an can run as fast as Bruce campbell
agreed?
January 24th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
I think we have that type of personnel now but
there natural DE’s that’s the problemo
January 24th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Jhill
you act like there is some kind of consistency in how AD operates.
you need to “Come on MAYNE”!!
January 24th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
bigblackdeath29
How does AD’s butt juice taste?
January 24th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
“breaking a guys jaw and beating woman”
Was an ordinary Saturday night for the Raiders of the 70’s!
damn retard!
January 24th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Like I said we have 3-4personnel but not really cuz they play DE
they can’t cover on passing downs but yet there on the field. We have tweeners with the exception of Mc Clain an Goethel. If your gonna run the 4-3 leave wimbley at DE an either cut groves or he goes into DL rotation
well maybe groves will do better this yr but I doubt it
January 24th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
howdy nation,
j hill i was just getting it together to post about thomas howard, who in my opinion was and is our best coverage lb.. i wonder if howard had some kind of negative relationship with cable or marshall..he has made some big plays for us and i would hate to see him in a donkeys uniform….
January 24th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
So the last coachch got 3 years, but this one will get 1 or 2?
Cmon mayne!
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Tom Cable didn’t inherit an 8-8 team. he got a 4-12 club with JaWalrus at QB!
January 24th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
486.Dakota Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:48 am
484.M Lonetree Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 10:45 am
that link above to burn pct goes a long way to demonstrating just how many people on this site know so little of which they opine.
all of the “Routt is terrible”, and “Nnamdi is overrated”, and “Johnson stinks” comments are shown for what they are, foolish and wrong.
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Yeah, those guy were almost as foolish and wrong as the Darren McFadden haters….
(no response M? lol)
January 24th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
interested to see what Goethel brings to the table. Guy missed have the season with back issues and never really had a chance to settle in.
I liked what I saw in preseason, which wasn’t much.
I remember watching a college game of his and he seemed very instinctive and stout against the run.
Don’t have much confidence in Wimbley and Groves being run stuffers, so I’d like to see what the rook has got.
I think in a few years, this draft class will prove to be one of our best.
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January 24th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
520.KoolKell Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Lynn
Do you think Davis’ fingers allow him to use a computer mouse, or does he need to use a computer?
What does he do all day?
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Why are you knockin on the old man? Dude has earned those hands. They look like my g-pa’s, but he worked on his Ranch (where he was born in a barn) all his life. He don’t know what OSHA stands for.
January 24th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
531.r8dercain Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
An ideal LB would be 6-2 6-3 6-4 265 lbs an can run as fast as Bruce campbell
agreed?
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Lets just put B. Campbell @ MLB.
January 24th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
525.LA to TheBay Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Raccoon,
I liked what I saw in preseason, which wasn’t much.
I remember watching a college game of his and he seemed very instinctive and stout against the run.
Don’t have much confidence in Wimbley and Groves being run stuffers, so I’d like to see what the rook has got.
I think in a few years, this draft class will prove to be one of our best.
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Thanks for the input LA.
January 24th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Maybe Al will just roll with no DC this year….maybe he will just hire a pass defense coordinator and promote Wauffle to Run defense coordinator?
January 24th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
494.BART Bridge Blues Says:
January 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Again, reasons why we are not switching to the 3-4 in my opinion. Football Outsiders has the Oakland defense ranked #1 in rushing the passer and #4 in stuffing the run. They get these numbers by isolating long runs that are the fault of the back 7.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl
Waufle is doing an amazing job with these guys, just need to get the LB’s and secondary on the same page
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A worthy re-post.
January 24th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
4 minutes ago – 2010 Report Card: WR Darrius Heyward-Bey — D. After a nightmare nine-catch rookie season, Heyward-Bey dropped far fewer passes and had 26 receptions. But the No. 7 overall draft pick in 2009 caught just one TD pass and disappeared too often. His exceptional speed simply didn’t translate into big plays. He’s still incredibly raw. Raiders RapidReports
Tags: WR
29 minutes ago – Offseason priorities: No. 3 – Cornerback. The Eagles are solid on the right side with All-Pro Asante Samuel, but there’s a huge hole on the left side and in nickel and dime coverages. Does anybody have Nnamdi Asomugha’s phone number? Eagles RapidReports
Jan. 24, 2011 4:01 p.m. – 2010 RaidReports Report Card: FB Marcel Reece – B. A converted college wide receiver, Reece won the starting job in camp and turned out to be a decent blocker and very dangerous receiver. He caught 25 passes for 333 yards and three TDs, one covering 75 yards. He also averaged 4.1 yards on 30 carries. Reece showed big-play skills few fullbacks possess. Raiders RapidReports
Jan. 24, 2011 3:57 p.m. – 2010 Report Card: TE Zach Miller – A-minus. Despite battling injuries, Miller led the Raiders in catches (60), receiving yards (685) and TD catches (5) and earned his first Pro Bowl trip, replacing the injured Antonio Gates. In four seasons, he has 226 career catches for 2,712 yards and has been every Raider QB’s security blanket. Raiders RapidReports
Jan. 24, 2011 3:26 p.m. – 2010 Report Card: QB Jason Campbell — C-plus. Campbell went 8-5 as a starter in his first season as a Raider, but his 84.5 passer rating ranked just 18th in the NFL. He was benched at halftime of Week 2 against the Rams and might have stayed there the rest of the season if QB Bruce Gradkowksi hadn’t suffered a shoulder injury. Raiders RapidReports
Jan. 24, 2011 3:24 p.m. – 2010 Report Card: RB Darren McFadden –- A. McFadden, the No. 4 overall pick in 2008, had a breakout season. He rushed for 1,157 yards and seven touchdowns and caught 47 passes for 507 yards and three scores. This would have been an A-plus if he hadn’t missed three games with hamstring and toe injuries. Raiders RapidReports
January 24th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Al will probably call the defense from his box next year, he’s still trying to find a head set that won’t cut his forehead……
January 24th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
gregaiello Greg Aiello
Most-watched conf championship game still “The Catch.” 49s over Cowboys 1/10/82 classic..68.7 million. Next season, players went on strike.
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NFL needs to pay attention.
January 24th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Darrius Heyward-Bey has 35 catches in his first 2 NFL seasons …
RB Darren McFadden caught 47 passes this year alone and missed three games with hamstring and toe injuries!
January 24th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Curious to see who our DC will be….it’s looking more and more like it will be Winston Moss.
January 24th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Sever, that the Raiders have not gone after any currently available DCs, I must agree (and hoping so) that the Raiders are holding out for Mr. Winston Moss.
Green Bay’s linebackers attack more, get sacks on the QB (which Al loves as the opposong QB must go down and he must go down hard), and get turnovers, which Al loves even more, which the Raiders did not get very many of.
Should the Raiders draft Matthews of Oregon in the 3rd or 4th round, Moss could say he coached both brothers.
January 24th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
I got to thinking about the sack count for the year as we know Raiders tied for 2nd with 47 fot the year.
Break it down per pass play attempts (I added sacks plus attempted passes against our D then the percentage of Sacks)
Raiders 9.01% (47 in 517 pass plays)
SD 8.79 (47/535)
GB 8.20 (47/573)
NYG 7.86 (46/585)
Det 7.80 (44/564)
Pitt 7.49 (48/641)
Raiders clearly had more sacks per opportunities!
Raiders must resign Mr. Seymour & Mr. Wimbley, Mr. Shaughnessy must get healthy, Mr. Kelly must repeat, Mr. Bryant must prove he should be a starter, and Mr. Houston must take it to the next level!
January 24th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
What type compensatory pick will we get if Asomugha goes elsewhere? What round will it come in? What are the rules about these compensatory picks. Will we get one if Gallery goes elsewhere? Huff?
February 6th, 2012 at 8:09 am
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