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Asomugha, Lechler named AP All-Pro

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, January 24th, 2011 at 2:21 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Punter Shane Lechler and free-agent-to-be cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha were both named to the Associated Press All-Pro team Monday as selected by a panel of 50 media members.

Lechler’s selection comes as a mild surprise in that lost out to Mat McBriar of Dallas in terms of both gross punting (47.9 to 47.0) and net punting (41.7 to 40.8). Lechler did have fewer touchbacks (8 for McBriar, 4 for Lechler) and placed 27 punts inside the 20 to 22 for McBriar.

Asomugha was teamed with Darrelle Revis as the All-Pro cornerback on the basis of his reputation as a cover corner. He did not give up a touchdown pass this season despite struggling through part of the season with an ankle injury, missing one game outright.

The only Raider who merited second-team mention was free safety Michael Huff, one of seven players to tie for the second safety position along with Green Bay’s Nick Harris. Huff, Antrel Rolle (Giants), Eric Weddle (Chargers), Malcolm Jenkins (New Orleans), Quintin Mikell (Eagles), Chris Harris (Bears), Michael Griffin (Titans) Darren Sharper (Saints) were tied, meaning each probably received a single vote.

Asomugha is also a candidate for the Walter Payton Award, which recognizes community service as well as on-field play. The winner will be announced before Super Bowl XLV. Other candidates are Israel Idonije of the Chicago Bears and Madieu Williams of the Minnesota Vikings.

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202 Responses to “Asomugha, Lechler named AP All-Pro”

  1. Dakota Says:

    Wow.

  2. Dakota Says:

    Bill Callahan might be in the running for the KC OC spot according to a report I just read.

  3. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    BFD, the real shock is Michael Huff making the 2nd team, AP All-Pro.

  4. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    Awesome.

    And Repost:

    2- Stephen Wisniewski (OG/C Penn State)
    3- Pat Devlin (QB Delaware) / Colin Kaepernick (QB Nevada)
    4- Davon House (CB New Mexico State)
    5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida)
    7- D.J. Holt (ILB Cal)

    & Sign Ochocinco in free agency.

    Thoughts?

  5. chiefssuck Says:

    I think huff should b in probowl over berry, personally.

  6. Dakota Says:

    You mean Stefen Wisniewski? He would be nice in round 2.

  7. PassTheCheetos Says:

    RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; Seriously, I Hate That Guy…) Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
    Awesome.

    And Repost:

    2- Stephen Wisniewski (OG/C Penn State)
    3- Pat Devlin (QB Delaware) / Colin Kaepernick (QB Nevada)
    4- Davon House (CB New Mexico State)
    5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida)
    7- D.J. Holt (ILB Cal)

    & Sign Ochocinco in free agency.

    Thoughts?
    ——————————–
    not bad, i liked watching kaepernick play this year but i dont see him being successful in the nfl.

  8. Dakota Says:

    And I’d rather have T.O. than Ochostinco. Free agent wouldn’t cost us any picks….and he had a way better year than Stinco, despite being much older. T.O. works his azz off….Stinco has gotten by on talent.

  9. Dakota Says:

    & Sign Ochocinco in free agency.
    _____

    Forgot to mention….I don’t think he is a FA.

  10. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the real shock is Michael Huff making the 2nd team, AP All-Pro.

    ***

    no surprise. Who called it ???

  11. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    2. Stefen Wisniewski, C or Dontay Moch, OLB
    3. Kendrick Ellis, DT (340lbs)
    4. Rashard Carmichael, CB (4.38s)
    5. James Brewer, OT
    6. DeAndre Brown, WR
    7. Lazarius Levingston, DE

  12. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    1.

    Forgot to mention….I don’t think he is a FA.

    *************

    I was under the impression that he would be… also would prefer him to TO as he is younger and has the previous connections with Jackson.

    2.

    not bad, i liked watching kaepernick play this year but i dont see him being successful in the nfl.

    ********************

    Maybe not, but I am of the belief that we need to use that 3rd round pick for a high upside developmental QB to play under Campbell this year. I don’t anticipate anyone more intriguing than the two listed being available.

  13. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    545.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    494.BART Bridge Blues Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am
    Again, reasons why we are not switching to the 3-4 in my opinion. Football Outsiders has the Oakland defense ranked #1 in rushing the passer and #4 in stuffing the run. They get these numbers by isolating long runs that are the fault of the back 7.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl

    Waufle is doing an amazing job with these guys, just need to get the LB’s and secondary on the same page

    ******

    A worthy re-post.

  14. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    3. Kendrick Ellis, DT (340lbs)

    ************

    I like this pick too if we’re going 3-4 and would plug it into my wish list should that be the case.

  15. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    4. Rashard Carmichael, CB (4.38s)

    *************

    Also like this one, I may be dreaming to think Davon House will still be available in round 4

  16. Dakota Says:

    The Bungholes hold a $6 million dollar option on Ochostinco for 2011.

  17. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    4.RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…) Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
    Awesome.

    And Repost:

    2- Stephen Wisniewski (OG/C Penn State)
    3- Pat Devlin (QB Delaware) / Colin Kaepernick (QB Nevada)
    4- Davon House (CB New Mexico State)
    5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida)
    7- D.J. Holt (ILB Cal)

    & Sign Ochocinco in free agency.

    Thoughts?

    ***************************

    I like it. We deff need O-line, and QB. The CB in round 4 should I am not sure of. Depends how our fa situation turns out. depth for the weakest DB position i guess.

  18. severeraiderz Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
    And I’d rather have T.O. than Ochostinco. Free agent wouldn’t cost us any picks….and he had a way better year than Stinco, despite being much older. T.O. works his azz off….Stinco has gotten by on talent.
    ///////////////////////////////

    Chad Johnson is a better teammate and he is an extremely hard worker, contrary to what you say or think. He is younger, drops less passes, and knows how to help young receiver (chris henry said himself, RIP). When they were on the field teams chose to double him over TO.

  19. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Darrius Heyward-Bey has 35 catches in his first 2 NFL seasons …

    RB Darren McFadden caught 47 passes this year alone and missed three games with hamstring and toe injuries!

  20. Dakota Says:

    2010 stats:

    Ochostinco
    67 rec 831 yards 4 TDs

    T.O.
    72 rec 938 yards 9 TDs

    Ocho is younger, but looks like he works out about once per offseason.

  21. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Our front 7 is pretty good. Better than any RAIDER front 7 in the last 8 years, maybe longer. Our front 4 is top 3 in the NFL! DONT MESS WITH IT! Draft front 4 only if we lose a guy to FA. We need to focus on O-line, WR, and QB.

  22. severeraiderz Says:

    RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; Seriously, I Hate That Guy…) Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
    4. Rashard Carmichael, CB (4.38s)

    *************

    Also like this one, I may be dreaming to think Davon House will still be available in round 4
    //////////////////////////////

    hahahahaha best name I’ve ever seen on this blog……take that Stryker Sulak.

  23. Plunketthead Says:

    Pro blogger

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/23/v-fullstory/2029102/coaching-car-wash-is-just-plain.html

    Coaching car wash is just plain dirty for Miami Dolphins

    Once upon a time in Buffalo, N.Y., Dave Wannstedt’s Miami Dolphins knew a heavy, lopsided blitz was coming and called a screen pass to that side, a perfect call at the perfect time. It should have gone for a very long touchdown. But quarterback Jay Fiedler threw a flutterball a bit too high in a cold wind. And it was intercepted and returned for a touchdown.

    A slew of alleged Dolphins leaders have been run through this rinse-repeat car wash since – a cornucopia of alleged offensive minds, defensive minds, culture changers, hot candidates and legends. And all have left here varying degrees of exposed or diminished. It isn’t a coincidence that the organization’s descent began when Dan Marino’s did. You don’t need greatness and stability atop your organization as much as you need it atop your huddle.

    But we are obsessed with the idea of leadership in this country, especially in sports, so Twitter isn’t the only place you’ll find legions of followers. There is something about the violence of football that makes people crave the illusion of an in-charge general with a plan, a man with a big chin (Bill Cowher) or an angry eyebrow (Jon Gruden) who players and owners and fans will want to follow. Never mind that Gruden’s résumé isn’t any different than that of Brian Billick, who somehow can’t get another job. Everyone wants the next genius, shiny and new, which is why Dolphins owner Stephen Ross so publicly shamed Tony Sparano by chasing Jim Harbaugh.

    But here’s the fundamental flaw in focusing on the captain instead of the boat: It presumes there’s a Wannstedt out there with a unique and pioneering understanding of how to float on water.

    This is football, not Facebook. It doesn’t require invention or reinvention. Do you know how hard it is for your football leaders to be appreciably smarter than the workaholics on the other sideline? Especially in a game where there are so few new plays, strategies, schemes, evolutions? And particularly when so many of the people being hired and rehired to do the outsmarting are so recycled that you’d think the NFL was going green?

    The idea that football is somehow like chess, with coaches as the chess masters, neglects the understanding that, in chess, you can’t move your rook impeccably only to then watch in horror as it throws an interception on a perfectly called screen pass.

    Wannstache was rehired as an assistant head coach this week to make the Bills smarter, continuing this absurd NFL trend of friends hiring recycled friends and everyone eventually getting to fail their way back up. It is an unoriginal plague in a copycat game. Just in these NFL playoffs, you’d find recycled Gregg Williams, Jim Zorn, Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Mike Mularkey, Dick Jauron, Rod Marinelli, Mike Tice, Mike Martz, Dom Capers, Bill Callahan, Marty Mornhinweg and Cam Cameron making their way back up the food chain after already being digested – each hired to be smarter than the other, each hired and fired previously elsewhere when they failed to be.

    You know who doesn’t do this nonsense? The Patriots. Bill Belichick surrounds himself with new names, anonymous and not recycled. He’s widely viewed as the best, but even that isn’t worth that much in something as lottery random as the one-loss-and-you-are-done playoffs. Belichick, for all his genius, is the only coach ever to lose with a 16-0 team, and he just got extinguished with a 14-2 one.

    More at the link

  24. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Kendrick Ellis sounds like the type of big man that Waufle and Al have liked in the past. Heavy AND long, so that he can still get to the QB and bat down some balls at the line. Was a Division 1B all-american and posted huge numbers for the last two seasons. Could be a diamond in the rough, coming out of tiny Hampton University. Side note: is of Jamaican descent, which can’t hurt his chances and has been compared Shaun Rogers by scouts.

  25. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…) Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
    Awesome.

    And Repost:

    2- Stephen Wisniewski (OG/C Penn State)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Absolutley!
    Draft son of Wiz!

  26. Dakota Says:

    18.severeraiderz Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Chad Johnson is a better teammate and he is an extremely hard worker, contrary to what you say or think. He is younger, drops less passes, and knows how to help young receiver (chris henry said himself, RIP). When they were on the field teams chose to double him over TO.
    __________________

    Could be true….haven’t watched many Bunghole games.

    I’d take either of them over Moss.

    Can we agree on that?

  27. severeraiderz Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
    2010 stats:

    Ochostinco
    67 rec 831 yards 4 TDs

    T.O.
    72 rec 938 yards 9 TDs

    Ocho is younger, but looks like he works out about once per offseason.
    /////////////////////

    lol he did that while being double teamed, allowing TO to get those oppurtinities. Those stats are still looking good to me and his work ethic, as far as I know, has never been questioned on any level.

  28. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    Also just realized I left out round 6….

    So…

    [Updated]

    2- Stefen Wisniewski (OG/C Penn State)*Popular, awesome pick. Sorry for the misspell earlier.
    3- Pat Devlin (QB Delaware) / Colin Kaepernick (QB Nevada)/ Kendrick Ellis (DT Hampton) *I like Kaeper, but Ellis if we do make move to 3-4
    4- Davon House (CB New Mexico State) / Rashard Carmichael (CB Virginia Tech) *2nd option per BART
    5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida) *check this guy out
    6- D.J. Holt (ILB Cal) *worth the bump
    7- Ladarius Green (TE Louisiana-Lafayette) *Yup

  29. stubblebuzz Says:

    I feel bad for the three NFL safeties who didn’t make 1st or 2nd team

  30. severeraiderz Says:

    Could be true….haven’t watched many Bunghole games.

    I’d take either of them over Moss.

    Can we agree on that?
    /////////////////////////////////////////

    if moss didn’t dog it when he was unhappy I’d still take the guy. His teammates in minny loved him, especially Harvin. He is a very hard worker and still has an immense amount of talent, if only he spent as much time workin on his route running as he did his speed and leaping ability. Used to be my favorite player, until he turned his back on my favorite team

  31. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida)

    Seriously, this guy could be a great late round pick for the Raiders…

    7- Ladarius Green (TE Louisiana-Lafayette)

    Hilarious and I hope it happens.

  32. RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy...) Says:

    RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; Seriously, I Hate That Guy…) Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
    5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida)

    Seriously, this guy could be a great late round pick for the Raiders…

    7- Ladarius Green (TE Louisiana-Lafayette)

    Hilarious and I hope it happens.

    **************

    Nevermind about Ladarius. Seems he didn’t declare, but a 6′6 TE?

  33. severeraiderz Says:

    Cable gets fired here and doesn’t even get a sniff of a coordinator job in the pros or an HC job in the FBS….

  34. Dakota Says:

    Carson Palmer has publicly taken Ochostinco to task in the past…but hey, whatever.

  35. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah, I saw Mendenhall humping Big Ben, yesterday, weird.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/mendenhall-humps-roethlisberger-video-goes-viral/

  36. KoolKell Says:

    I’d rather have Ocho. I never heard he was a slacker, just the opposite. Seems to bee a good teammate.

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  38. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    I dont think Al can resist taking Dontay Moch with the Raiders’ 2nd round pick:

    Dontay Moch, OLB/DE, 6′1″ 242lbs 4.38s (no that 40-time is not a typo)

  39. severeraiderz Says:

    Dakota Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
    Carson Palmer has publicly taken Ochostinco to task in the past…but hey, whatever.
    //////////////////////////////////////////

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2009-06-15/ochocinco-plans-stay-qb-palmer-july

    NEXT!!!!!

    The guy missed voluntary workouts, mainly becaus he keeps himself in great shape alone

  40. Dr.Death Says:

    redneck als getting cb in secnd rnd 4 sur

  41. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I just posted this on the previos post (as usual I am late to the new post party)

    Raiders Sacks total in perspective!

    I got to thinking about the sack count for the year as we know Raiders tied for 2nd with 47 fot the year.

    Break it down per pass play attempts (I added sacks plus attempted passes against our D then the percentage of Sacks)

    Raiders 9.01% (47 in 517 pass plays)
    SD 8.79 (47/535)
    GB 8.20 (47/573)
    NYG 7.86 (46/585)
    Det 7.80 (44/564)
    Pitt 7.49 (48/641)

    Raiders clearly had more sacks per opportunities!

    Raiders must resign Mr. Seymour & Mr. Wimbley, Mr. Shaughnessy must get healthy, Mr. Kelly must repeat, Mr. Bryant must prove he should be a starter, and Mr. Houston must take it to the next level!

  42. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I would love to get Gilbert in the 5th, but I do not see him falling that far- 4th maybe, depending how good of shape he is in at the combine; he could move up to early 3rd round, especially if Tackles go quick in the first and early to middle second round.

  43. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Moch in the 3rd or 4th, hopefully, Al is as disciplined as he was with Mr. Bruce Campbell.

  44. RaiderRetribution Says:

    rounds 2, 3, and 4 are deep this year!

    first round not so much

  45. Dr.Death Says:

    linemen this year is really deep

  46. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Most Importantly of all: Congratulations to Mr. Nnamdi Asomugha and Mr. Lechler on earning another All-Pro honor!

    and Mr. Huff making 2nd team!

    well that just made each of them a million dollars richer in new negotiations!

  47. RaiderRetribution Says:

    on both sides, Raiders must get one of them!

  48. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I am actually hoping all 4 [projected] QBs and top 4 RBs & WRs get selected before the Raiders’ #48 pick, we will get a top O-Lineman or top D-Lineman

  49. inonewordraider Says:

    Wimbley is was our 2010 sack leader but I’m wondering if he should be back. Our D can’t stop the run and our front four is built to be a 4-3 so changing the scheme isn’t the answer. Looks like Mcclain and Goethel are set as starters and we have to wait and see how good they become. Wimbley can’t cover and hasn’t shown the ability to be a run stopper. Our front four get’s pressure and we are able to get extra pressure when necessary from Mcclain and our safeties. So do we get a run stopper/cover LB instead and not re-sign Wimbley thereby losing the qb pressure he’s good for?

  50. RaiderRetribution Says:

    even if we lose Zach, I hope we do not draft a TE before the 5th round, as TEs are not that deep this year.

    We should just resign Mr. Barnes and give him a new jersey number in the eighties!

  51. YoungAmerican Says:

    The OT position isn’t particularly deep this season – at least there isn’t a lot of top talent like there is most seasons. In fact, a lot of the top OTs in this draft project to be RTs or OGs at the next level. Marcus Cannon, Nate Solder, Darrius Morris, Carimi, and Reynolds for example.

    However it seems that there’s a bunch of good interior linemen available.

  52. RaiderRetribution Says:

    We need to resign Mr. Wimbley as well as Mr. Seymour, Mr. McClain was not great at QB pressure, we need Rols to be more aggressive on run defense than we do Kambs.
    Goethel starting at OLB might just be the answer in our run D, either way we do need one more LB; hopefully Woodley as a FA.

  53. RaiderRetribution Says:

    YA- the OL are not top ten, aka Okung, Oher, etc..
    you are correct they are middle to late 1st round OTs.

    Guards and centers tend to be late first round picks anyway, which is why the good teams are so consistently good, they just improve their offensive line every year.

  54. Dr.Death Says:

    why do u want a top ten line if u dont pk till the 2nd rnd comon guys and this only good ones are G and RTS thats what we need langston walker and robert gallery samson satelle cooper carlslile aint that much thats if there even there

  55. Dr.Death Says:

    we need linemen period we havent blocked nobody since the gannon years

  56. YoungAmerican Says:

    I’d like to see Goethel compete with Groves for the starting spot if the Raiders don’t draft an OLB like Greg Jones or Dontay Moch. Preferably Jones because he can cover, and the Raiders ask their LBs to cover more than they ask them to blitz.

    2nd round – C/OG Stephen Wisniewski or CB Jimmy Smith
    3rd round – OLB Greg Jones or OG/C John Moffitt
    4th round – OG/OT Lee Ziemba or OT Marcus Gilbert
    5th round – DT/NT Ian Williams

    Attempt to re-sign Asomugha/Routt, Seymour, Miller, Wimbley, Reece, Bush, Huff, Loper, Condo, Cartwright, Henderson.

    If Bush walks, sign Willis McGahee and/or draft a late-round back.

    If Huff walks, sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.

    If Asomugha walks, sign Jonathan Joseph and/or draft a CB.

    If Routt walks, sign Richard Marshall or draft a CB.

  57. irishraiderfan Says:

    NA will be missed, don’t think he is coming back

  58. YoungAmerican Says:

    Also… I can’t believe I’m saying this… sign Ochocinco when he gets cut.

    I really do feel dirty saying that… don’t like his personality, myself…. but he has a positive impact on young receivers (unlike TO) and loves playing for Hue.

  59. Dr.Death Says:

    looks good YA but wiz will b gon probably new england

  60. YoungAmerican Says:

    Asomugha is undoubtedly a good player and if he left, the Raiders would definitely not be able to immediately plug in a guy who shuts down half of the field and doesn’t give up a single TD all season…

    … BUT it would help the Raiders sign some key pieces who would help them in other phases of the game. If they replaced Asomugha with an above-average cover corner like Marshall or Joseph, and either kept Routt or drafted a guy like Jimmy Smith or Brandon Burton, I think they’d be fine.

  61. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Boy boy boy …if you haven’t checked Raiders.com home page ..do so …they are promotin’ the hell out of Hue Jackson ….that guy is somethin serious!

  62. Dr.Death Says:

    and if we dont sign nmandi cb will b the first pick also like the gaurd from wiscosion john moffit

  63. Silver-and-black666 Says:

    2nd round fastest guy left on teh board
    3rd round DB
    4th round S
    5th round Pepsi truck (filled with Ensure)

  64. YoungAmerican Says:

    If Wiz is gone, take Jimmy Smith and draft Moffitt or Linnenkohl in the third round.

  65. Dr.Death Says:

    theres no if he left hes gone and wee need a replacement more leway huff has 4 contract keep this db core togather aws much as possible cuz aso is not coming back and the back ups aint nauthing

  66. TerrapinRaider Says:

    YoungAm – I think all the big names are back. Nnam will sign for less. Seymour will get his pay. Routt wants to be here under Hue. Huff wants to be here. Wimbley will be inked. Condo, etc.

    Bush is a wild card cause he may be able to start eslewhere. Still I think he stays because doubt if he becomes FA. Likely Restricted FA.

  67. JB Says:

    What type compensatory pick will we get if Asomugha goes elsewhere? What round will it come in? What are the rules about these compensatory picks. Will we get one if Gallery goes elsewhere? Huff?

  68. Silver-and-black666 Says:

    “What type compensatory pick will we get if Asomugha goes elsewhere?”

    A truck load of depends!

  69. YoungAmerican Says:

    Compensatory picks will likely be for the 2012 draft, unfortunately. We could definitely use another 2nd or 3rd rounder.

  70. Dr.Death Says:

    YA just rember how ASO was when he 1st came in that was that excatly nuthing it took ASO at least 3 years before even w/FA u cant replace that so why not draft some1 who can help in 2-3 years god-wi;;ingh

  71. YoungAmerican Says:

    If Nnamdi leaves I think they should sign a free agent AND draft a guy to compensate for it. Especially because I don’t think Routt can be judged on a single year of semi-respectable play, even though it’s very likely he’ll get a new contract based on exactly that.

  72. RaiderRetribution Says:

    as of now, compensatory picks are applied to the following years draft, so Raiders will have multiple picks in 2012.

  73. YoungAmerican Says:

    And I don’t think it’s necessarily a done deal that he’s gone. At the very least he’ll give the Raiders an opportunity to match any offer he gets elsewhere.

  74. JB Says:

    The rich get richer:
    2011 draft -

    NE gets 9 picks 1.17 (from OAK), 1.28, 2.1 (from CAR), 2.28, 3.10 (from MIN), 3.28, 4.28, 5.28, 6.24 (from NO)

    OAK gets 6 picks 2.16, 3.17, 4.16, 5.17, 6.16, 7.17

  75. Dr.Death Says:

    terrapin i think ASO and WIMBLEY are out and SEYmore is iffyy the NFL Not 4 Long Leauge they will chase the money even more so w/the lock out potential and bush iz on the border he knows u cant beat comeing in for DMAC i think he sees the potential 4 a lelthal 2some in the backfield

  76. JB Says:

    Worst case, Seymour will be franchised.

  77. Dr.Death Says:

    seymore 4 sur will not b franchised not in a poss. strike year

  78. Dr.Death Says:

    thats alot of money u can spend some where else

  79. chuck Says:

    I would wait until training camp to sign chad or another veteran.if schilens comes to camp healthy and dhb shows improvement we will be ok.

  80. SnB Production Says:

    19.RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
    Darrius Heyward-Bey has 35 catches in his first 2 NFL seasons …

    RB Darren McFadden caught 47 passes this year alone and missed three games with hamstring and toe injuries!

    =======================================================
    DHB is just a bad pick. His numbers are unacceptable for ANYONE who’s played the amount of games and snaps as he has. I don’t care what the QB situation is.

    He’s gotta step it up big time.

    Raiders willingly passed on a lot of players to take this guy and most of those players are outperforming him.

    Especially the Defensive Tackle in Green Bay

  81. Dr.Death Says:

    ASO is gone guys face it therers 2 much money out there 4 him 10 years of this sh!t u would leave 2

  82. YoungAmerican Says:

    I wouldn’t sign Ochocinco until he’s cut. The Bengals aren’t going into next season with him, but he’s definitely not worth the contract he has now.

  83. SnB Production Says:

    You lose Nnamdi Asomugha and the pass defense goes to worst in the league.

    Bet!

    Raiders gave up some 28 passing TDs and one of the starting CBs gives up NONE!

    Sure, bring in some scrap heap guy to replace him.

    WTF

    Raider defense is shaky as is…losing Nnamdi will be a disaster….not to mention another 100 picks dedicated to CBs

  84. SnB Production Says:

    Raiders have to change the scheme if they get rid of NNAMDI

    Not looking forward to seeing more Fabian Washington types try to find themselves against Phillip Rivers

  85. Dr.Death Says:

    im not saying i want him 2 leave this guy is 1 the truestraider in the modern age but the monet hes due and the drama,losing record,coaching situation,collective barganing agreement hes gone period and S and B we wont go 2 worst in pass d bet that

  86. SnB Production Says:

    Dr. Death,

    Nnamdi gave up 0 TDs.

    The rest of the secondary gave up some 27.

    Doesn’t bode too well for the future…especially if the rigid man2man stays

  87. M Lonetree Says:

    I am pleased to read here that not every other post advocates CARSON PALMER CARSON PALMER!!!, unlike last year’s DONOVAN!!! MCNABB!!! let ‘em go.

    as far as Chad…he would work his azz off for HueJack City.

    neither of those postions, QB-most important, and WR-extraneous, mean any damed thing unless the O-line and D-line are predominant.

    just the way it is kids. focus on the sexy fantasy players and cry “success” as the ship sinks, or bolster the respective lines as correct ballast to sail the pirate vessel on the Autumn Wind to the playoffs.

  88. Dr.Death Says:

    we domt have 2 chnge th scheme change the drafting look at the steelers when they lsoe a LB they draft another 2 take his place

  89. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Dontay Moch weighed in at 6′1 229 in the East-West shrine game.

    He is projected as a 3-4 OLB, but I don’t think he is big enough.

    It will be interesting to see what he runs at the combine.

  90. raider13 Says:

    Davon House from NMSU? C’mon get serious. I watched that team play 5 times this year. He did well against some of the worst teams in the U.S. but against the likes of Boise St. and Nevada he was eaten alive. reading stats from some book doesn’t tell the real story…he could not keep up with good receivers.

  91. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Did everyone forget the headlines?

    “Will Nnamdi Asomugha’s Contract Destroy the NFL?”

    I think the rest of the owners were pissed when Al paid Aso that contract. Cannot see another team out paying Al for Aso. Aso contract became leverage for every other CB in the league (Revis). I cannot see Aso leaving for money, maybe glory?

  92. SnB Production Says:

    88.Dr.Death Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    we domt have 2 chnge th scheme change the drafting look at the steelers when they lsoe a LB they draft another 2 take his place

    ======================================================
    Raiders are poor at replacing talent…let alone upgrading it.

    THere are only a few CBs that can play the man2man a high % of time and not give up a lot of completions and get PI calls.

    The Raiders leave their corners on an island and Nnamdi is able to shut down his side so well that opponents don’t even bother throwing his way. SHAME ON OUR DEFENSIVE BRAINTRUSTS FOR NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS!

    You put the next Fabian Washington or Philip Buchanan and we will all be gnashing our collective teeth again

  93. DutchRaider77 Says:

    How about the Revis contract for 2011…$18M bonus and $7.5M base salary.

  94. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I’ve driven by NMSU field about a dozen times the last year, and it just doesn’t seem the place to breed NFL players.

  95. M Lonetree Says:

    JustFB,

    did you drive by Hillsdale College or Jackson State (Sweetness) to see if those places could breed NFL players?

  96. M Lonetree Says:

    or how about Butte JC (Rodgers)? Did you drive by that place?

  97. Just Fire Baby Says:

    I didn’t lol.

    NMSU field is bottom of the barrel though. The great Sun Bowl in El Paso an hour away looks much more the part.

  98. YoungAmerican Says:

    House would be a good 4th-5th round pick (which I think is around where he’ll go), but size-wise isn’t much bigger than Jeremy Ware.

  99. Dr.Death Says:

    S and B chk post 70

  100. Dr.Death Says:

    and therers more cbs that can play mana 2 man than u thnk they just dont get the opp. 2 do so

  101. Just Fire Baby Says:

    or how about Butte JC (Rodgers)? Did you drive by that place?

    ***********************

    Butte JC bred myself.

    There are many proud Road Runners today, and Butte JC and Chico, CA will enjoy it’s 15 minutes of fame these next two weeks with Aaron.

  102. J Hill Says:

    Routt and CJ37 were decent in games that Nnamdi missed.

    Either Nnamdi takes a paycut, or he can take a hike.

    Nothing personal, just can’t afford him.

  103. SnB Production Says:

    Dr Death,

    Nnamdi Asomugha turns out to be a pretty remarkable person in that he’s very intelligent, hardworking and SELF-MOTIVATED.

    The Raiders don’t excel at attracting guys like that.

    Nnamdi’s early struggles were most likely due to him having to LEARN A NEW POSITION…which is not unusual for Raider draft picks to have to do.

    Guys like Nnamdi are infrequent in the league and down right rare to statistically non-existant in Oakland.

    If the Raiders had a competent development plan, I could buy losing Nnamdi. but the Raiders rarely develop guys.

    More likely to have a parade of Philip Buchanon’s than another Nnamdi to step up.

    Just my opinion

  104. J Hill Says:

    It’s quite simple that the one guy who needs to step his game up in the secondary is Tyvon Branch. That guy making mistakes = TDs.

    CB is not really the issue, imo. WRs get paid big $. They are going to catch some balls.

    Huff is a more important resigning than Nnamdi.

  105. SnB Production Says:

    Routt and CJ miss tackles and give up long 3rd downs…not too mention the PIs.

    In a NORMAL defense…perhaps they are enough. But with the Raiders vanilla looks and strict adherence to man2man….I fear another decade of wasted picks on fleet footed corners trying to find the next Willie Brown

  106. J Hill Says:

    If this playoffs are showing us anything, it’s defense, defense, and more defense.

    Reward Wauffle with 2 more full time toys in Wimbley and Groves.

    Kelly
    Seymour
    ShoNasty
    Groves
    Wimbley
    Houston
    Bryant
    NT via draft

    That’s a ridiculous 8 man DL.

  107. Just Fire Baby Says:

    Nothing personal, just can’t afford him.

    ***************************

    The old, it’s not you it’s me line.

  108. SnB Production Says:

    Jhill,

    The Raiders have had a parade of lousy Strong Safeties for a generation….maybe Van McElroy.

    The rest just get abused and run out of town on a rail. Strong safeties constantly racking up 100+ tackles a year…and who knows what else.

  109. SnB Production Says:

    You all have to give me a credible plan for losing Nnamdi than…we will just replace him with Walter McFadden or some other green corner.

    Nnamdi gave up 0 TDs. Most likely downhill after that.

  110. J Hill Says:

    SnB,

    Over 16 games, no way you can point to CJ37 and Routt as reasons we lost games. I think they would be WAY down the list.

    Routt would get thrown at LESS if Nnamdi is gone, right? How many PIs did he give up this year? I’d bet not many.

    The point is money well spent. Huff, Seymour, and Bush HAVE to be the priority. I’d say getting Gaither and Vincent Jackson would be next. I’d have to see what I have left after that and see if Nnamdi is ok with the change.

  111. J Hill Says:

    Routt is back. I think we can all agree on that.
    CJ37 back as well? Is he still under contract?

    McFadden and Ware battle it out for the nickle.

    Wouldn’t put it past Al signing a FA corner.

  112. SnB Production Says:

    Jhill,

    This defense, with a dominant CB, still gives up 30+ in just about half the games, and the defense down right blew it against the better teams.

    Not looking forward to seeing this defense with no Nnamdi.

    And if Routt gets fewer balls…its only because the otherside is getting torched.

    CJ was just about run out of town around here and I don’t think there are many wanting to see him start anymore.

    If you move Nnamdi on…then Al Davis has to change the defensive playcalling to protect the secondary…

    Otherwise its 1997 again

  113. J Hill Says:

    The communication between the DBs HAS to improve!

    We take care of that ONE area, I say we EASILY cut the TDs in half.

  114. SnB Production Says:

    But he won’t change the defense…and as a result the Raiders will be giving up 30+ points in 10 games instead of just 6

  115. J Hill Says:

    Ok SnB, let me try it this way.

    Huff, Bush, Miller, Wimbley

    or

    Nnamdi

  116. SnB Production Says:

    113.J Hill Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
    The communication between the DBs HAS to improve!

    We take care of that ONE area, I say we EASILY cut the TDs in half.

    ==================================================
    Big assumption. The other 3 to 4 DBs had to cover 1 side of the field and couldn’t do it.

    Now they will have to cover the whole field…..

  117. SnB Production Says:

    115.J Hill Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
    Ok SnB, let me try it this way.

    Huff, Bush, Miller, Wimbley

    or

    Nnamdi

    =====================================================
    False choice.

    I think Nnamdi +2 guys above. Give me Miller and push on Huff and Bush.

    Wimbley is nice to have but the Raiders don’t blitz enough to fully pay Wimbley what he can probably get

  118. DutchRaider77 Says:

    The way that A.J. messed up the V-Jax situation, I cannot see him letting him sign with the Raiders?

  119. J Hill Says:

    But he won’t change the defense

    ——————————————————

    That’s a pretty tired line.

    The Raiders played several different defenses this year. Zones included. We got beat so bad in zones, that about game 10 Marshall, or Al if you’d like just said F it and went man.

    We were talking about it on this board when it happened and most agreed that it was the correct move. Too many instances of the DBs looking at each other asking WTF.

  120. SnB Production Says:

    So give me Nnamdi, Miller and either Huff or Bush.

    Too bad they are paying JaDavis and DHB so much

  121. SnB Production Says:

    Jhill,

    There are few corners that can play man the way the Raiders demand and be successfull.

    Sort of like a dominant NT in a 3-4.

    You gotta pay the money to certain positions to run the scheme

  122. J Hill Says:

    The other 3 to 4 DBs had to cover 1 side of the field and couldn’t do it.

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

    You’re putting a lot on it.

    WRs weren’t running free all over the place. Cmon mayne. More often than not, the culprit was a play here or a play there. 5 safety formations putting the wrong players on the field. Bogus calls against our secondary.

    Routt and CJ played decent.

  123. J Hill Says:

    SnB,

    How did we do in games without Nnamdi this year?

  124. SnB Production Says:

    Jhill,

    I just don’t see this franchise doing well replacing consistent pro-bowlers.

    I feel you fight like hell to keep your good players.

    Just not sold on Routt OR CJ as THE GUY

  125. SnB Production Says:

    What games did Nnamdi miss?

    San Fran
    KC
    Pitt
    Miami

    The Pitt and Miami games were disasters.

  126. SnB Production Says:

    I’ll take a strong defense over the offense.

    So spend the money on that side of the ball.

    With DHB and Murphy with oft injured Schilens…that offense is going to be dependent on DMAC for the most part.

    Defense doesn’t give up 30+ in 6 games and maybe things change a bit.

  127. J Hill Says:

    I’d love to have Nnamdi back. I just don’t think he is going to accept our offer.

    Best case scenario is the new CBA gives some type of “Bird exemption”, if you will.

    Or maybe there is no free agency this year at all and these guys can only negotiate with their current team.

    Outside of that, with a salary cap, I just can’t see being able to afford all of our guys. Nnamdi is going to want AT LEAST what Revis is getting. We alread have to pay Seymour.

  128. Raider O Says:

    J,

    You are forgetting about the CBA. Miller & Bush may not be UFAs since they have not played 6 years with the team that drafted them. I’m not sure if that works for Wimbley since he was traded for and not drafted.

    Al never had a problem signing players, so he may find a way to keep most of our FAs.

    I think we should keep Nnamdi, Seymour, Wimbley, and Miller/Bush.
    Huff and Gallery should gives Al a discount.

  129. J Hill Says:

    Miami game, Henne completed 17 of 30 passes for 2 TDs and a pick.

    Pitts rant the ball on us to go up 14-3, then the Murphy fumble gave them good field position to go up 21-3. Nnamdi doesn’t help against Pittsburgh.

  130. J Hill Says:

    6 years, O?

    What new rule are you making up?

    Link????

  131. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Huff is a more important resigning than Nnamdi.
    —————————————
    More important to what, winning or Davis’ pocketbook?

  132. Raider O Says:

    J,

    I don’t have a link, but that’s what I hear on NFLN. That’s what happened earlier this season. That’s why Routt, TH, and Kirk were not UFAs.

    I don’t make things up, but I wish I can make my own rules.

    Look it up, and don’t be so lazy!

  133. Raider O Says:

    What I HEARD*…….

  134. J Hill Says:

    How am I supposed to look up something you HEARD????

  135. Raider O Says:

    Its called the world wide web for a reason.

    LOL!!

  136. Raider O Says:

    -Try typing: when is a player an UFA under no CBA?

    -now look @ NFL events: Free Agency.
    http://www.NFL.com/freeagency

    That wasn’t too hard.

    You ARE lazy!

  137. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Huff is a more important resigning than Nnamdi.
    ———————————-
    When did you come to this revelation, Davis’ press-conference?

  138. J Hill Says:

    Ran across this SnB …

    3. Stanford Routt Raiders 99(targets) 39(comp) 635(yds) 5(TDs) 39.4(Burnt pct) 13 (pass def)

    6. Chris Johnson Raiders 42(targets) 17(comp) 288(yds) 3(TDs) 40.5(burnt pct) 9(passes def)

  139. Raider O Says:

    J,

    After you go to website, try clicking on CBA questions and FA facts.

    You are welcome.

  140. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Mustafa the Rulemaking Monkey….

  141. 504 Raider Says:

    95.M Lonetree Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
    JustFB,

    did you drive by Hillsdale College or Jackson State (Sweetness) to see if those places could breed NFL players?

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Last year I took a dump in the Walter Payton Rec Center on Jackson State’s campus. Very very clean restrooms.

  142. J Hill Says:

    O,

    Routt is 6 years in. Huff met escalators = he’s a free agent. Nnamdi is a FA. Seymour and Wimbley are FA.

    Zach Miller and Mike Bush will be restricted FAs which just means we’ll get some compensation if they leave. But they will still get nice $.

    Salary cap factored in, I still say we can’t afford Nnamdi.

  143. SnB Production Says:

    138.J Hill Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
    Ran across this SnB …

    3. Stanford Routt Raiders 99(targets) 39(comp) 635(yds) 5(TDs) 39.4(Burnt pct) 13 (pass def)

    6. Chris Johnson Raiders 42(targets) 17(comp) 288(yds) 3(TDs) 40.5(burnt pct) 9(passes def)

    ====================================================
    What about the PIs?

  144. TerrapinRaider Says:

    I thought restricted FA meant that 1) we get comp if they leave and 2) we have the oppty to match?

  145. SnB Production Says:

    SPecial note:

    Boooooo to Bruce Gradkowski. Pretty classless move to call out an NFC Championship QB that had a torn MCL and calling him a quitter.

  146. 504 Raider Says:

    Man, watching that video of Hue on the Raiders.com homepage got me geeked up. Also reminded me to get a Foreman grill.

  147. TerrapinRaider Says:

    Per wiki: Restricted free agent
    The specific rules of restricted free agency vary among the major professional sports, but in principle it means that a player is free to solicit offers from other teams for new contracts. However, before this player is allowed to sign with the new club, the current club has a chance to match (or come within 10% in some leagues) the terms of the new contract in which case the player must remain with the original team. In some leagues, when a team signs a restricted free agent, they must compensate the original team with draft picks

  148. TerrapinRaider Says:

    So in short if they are RFA chances are they will stay Raider if we want them

  149. Raider O Says:

    J,

    I think we keep Nnamdi. Not based on logic or anything else.

    Preppie,

    Did you enjoy your stay in the great state of OH IO? OHIO!!

  150. Raider75 Says:

    VittorioTafur Vittorio Tafur
    Al loves em “@ThaAHHKilla: @bydavidwhite Why the hell did he keep Sanjay? Our receivers were TERRIBLE this year.”

    bydavidwhite David White
    by VittorioTafur
    For you Raiders fans, Hue Jackson retained 3 assistants: WRs Sanjay Lal, RBs Kelly Skipper, TEs Adam Henry, all here at Senior Bowl.
    ……..

    Sanjay made the cut… 1 step forward, 2 steps back.

  151. YoungAmerican Says:

    There’s a lot of hate around here for Sanjay Lal, but has it occurred to anyone that most of the Raider receivers simply aren’t that good?

  152. DKnight007 Says:

    RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…) Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    Awesome.

    And Repost:

    2- Stephen Wisniewski (OG/C Penn State)
    3- Pat Devlin (QB Delaware) / Colin Kaepernick (QB Nevada)
    4- Davon House (CB New Mexico State)
    5- Marcus Gilbert (OT[R] Florida)
    7- D.J. Holt (ILB Cal)

    & Sign Ochocinco in free agency.

    Thoughts

    ^^^^^^^
    Don’t like taking a developmental QB in Round 3.

    Rather have an OLB like Dontay Moch, or DT like Kenrick Ellis at that spot. Or maybe even a WR like Austin Pettis in Round 3.

  153. DKnight007 Says:

    Why the hell did they keep Lal ahead of good coaches like Hackett who works well with QB’s?

    Maybe Saunders will be working with the QB’s a whole lot more I guess.

  154. olinesux Says:

    damn lal dont know the difference between a post and a corber route….mistake #1

  155. RaiderRetribution Says:

    by the way, I know a few were wondering as I was, if the Al Saunders as Raiders’ offensive coordinator is official; it is now.

    Saunders is now on the official Raiders’ website coaches chart as offensive coordinators.

  156. RaiderRetribution Says:

    as for Winsotn Moss as DC, it appears we are not the only team potentially waiting for his services, Philadelphia is waiting to interview him as well.

    I figure he is going to cost more than minimum wage and an All-American cheeseburger combo meal.

  157. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Lal could benefit from Hue as well as Al being his head coach. We know Cable didn’t have a clue on providing leadership in the WR field.

  158. J Hill Says:

    Lal did an outstanding job with Jacoby Ford???

    Got DHB to cut his drops in half????

  159. djohnnyg Says:

    29.stubblebuzz Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
    I feel bad for the three NFL safeties who didn’t make 1st or 2nd team

    Nice catch. Ha.

  160. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Now that I think about it, Mr. Heyward-Bey just might have that break-out season we are hoping [dare I say expecting] for.

  161. SnB Production Says:

    151.YoungAmerican Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
    There’s a lot of hate around here for Sanjay Lal, but has it occurred to anyone that most of the Raider receivers simply aren’t that good?

    =====================================================
    Yup. Schilens looks good the few times he’s on the field. As Jhill said, Jacoby Ford was outstanding and he was considered to be a raw talent when drafted.

    The receivers coach is also getting help to be sure. DHB is the albatross right now. He’s just gotta step up and contribute. His performance the last two years is unacceptable

  162. RaiderRetribution Says:

    oh and for the record resigning Mr. Asomugha is much more important than resigning Mr. Huff, by three lengths at least.

    Resigning Mr. Seymour is the most important FA signing for our FAs

  163. SnB Production Says:

    Guess Gradkowski won’t be backing up Cutler in Chicago

  164. KoolKell Says:

    I don’t know where Gradkowski gets off saying anything about anybody’s QB play.

  165. KoolKell Says:

    Good riddance to Paul Hackett.

  166. Mistabr0wn Says:

    KK
    I dont know where you get off criticizing the attendance at Raider games when you are home on your fat hump on Sundays.

  167. alex7 Says:

    Actually Jhill,

    the pick 6 we had at KC week 17 was in a zone defense.

    Was kinda sweet. Whoever that was bumped his receiver and stayed in the flat, then picked off the dump off pass.

  168. r8eray Says:

    http://prod.static.raiders.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/imported/OAK/photos/persons/coach-cards/Sanjay_Lal.jpg

  169. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Both.
    _____

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    J Hill Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    Huff is a more important resigning than Nnamdi.
    —————————————
    More important to what, winning or Davis’ pocketbook?

  170. J Hill Says:

    oh and for the record resigning Mr. Asomugha is much more important than resigning Mr. Huff, by three lengths at least.

    ——————————————————

    We have 2 guys at corner who have played well in games were Nnamdi is out.

    Are you really telling me you are ready for Tyvon Branch or Stevie Brown as our FS?

    Options at CB if we don’t resign Nnamdi… No options at FS if Huff walks.

  171. alex7 Says:

    What do you guys EXPECT out of Sanjay? You can’t give him DHB, a 4th rounder with bad hands in Murphy, a raw rookie in Ford, and Chaz showing up in week 16, and expect great results.

    For all we know Lal really knows his stuff, but has NOTHING to work with, other than Ford who turned it on once he got his feet underneath him.

    If we agree Hue knows his stuff, and he interviewed Lal and kept him, then Lal must know how to teach. He just needs some actual talent to blossom. Ford was step 1.

  172. Dakota Says:

    Lal? Really?

    come on

  173. J Hill Says:

    What does WR coach really do anyway?

    I’m sure he’s qualified to coach WRs?

  174. alex7 Says:

    JHill,

    we kinda got shredded by the Steelers passing game when Nnamdi was out. He wasn’t 100% against the Dolphins either, and we made Chad Henne look like Brady out there.

    We already struggle with run D. Why weaken the pass D as well.

    Like others have said, 29 TDs in the air, 0 by Nnamdi, 29 for the others IN PART TIME DUTY (with Nnamdi covering half the field).

  175. Dakota Says:

    Lal + DHB = little improvement. Lal has had two years and DHB still produces nothing.

    Murphy didn’t improve much in year two either.

    Bad move keeping this guy.

  176. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Preisttj received the still photos of DHB from Sanjay so there cant be any question of his expertise.

    The end

  177. Dakota Says:

    Sanjay Lal joined The Oakland Raiders in 2007 working with the wide receivers for the Silver and Black as operating as offensive quality control assistant. Prior to joining the Raiders, Lal spent three seasons as an offensive assistant – quarterbacks at Cal, following one season on the football staff at Saint Mary’s College as quarterback and strength, speed and conditioning coach. The Bears played in bowl games in each of Lal’s seasons at Cal and captured a share of the school’s first Pac-10 title (tied with USC) in 2006. He was the wide receivers coach at Los Medanos College (2003) and was passing game coordinator and wide receivers coach at Miramonte High (1996-02), when the school won five North Coast Section championships and one state title, including a 13-0 record in 2001. Lal played wide receiver at the University of Washington and was a Husky Hall of Fame selection. He was on the Huskies’ 1992 National Championship team and a member of two Rose Bowl teams. Before transferring to Washington, he was a member of the 1989 UCLA Cotton Bowl championship team. Lal signed as a free agent with the St. Louis Rams in 1998 and was with the Scottish Claymores of NFL Europe in 1999. His wife’s name is Melody.

  178. djohnnyg Says:

    May I ask is the hiring of Al Saunders OFFICIAL yet?

  179. KoolKell Says:

    J Hill Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    What does WR coach really do anyway?

    I’m sure he’s qualified to coach WRs?
    ——————————
    You don’t know what a WR coach does, but you’re sure he’s qualified.

    Do you just co-sign everything Davis says/does?

  180. YoungAmerican Says:

    So maybe DHB and Murphy aren’t that good? Just a thought.

  181. Thec07 Says:

    LAL is going awya…The “Other Forces” are not happy with the development of the WR’s…

  182. Mistabr0wn Says:

    Yeah because KK wasn’t creaming his jeans over JaMarcus Russell or H Jackson coming aboard.
    ______

    # KoolKell Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    You don’t know what a WR coach does, but you’re sure he’s qualified.

    Do you just co-sign everything Davis says/does?

  183. Dakota Says:

    180.YoungAmerican Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
    So maybe DHB and Murphy aren’t that good? Just a thought.

    ++++++++

    That might be, but before you give up on the player (especially the #7 overall pick) you fire the coach that has gotten exactly nothing accomplished with the $25 million dollar investment.

  184. KoolKell Says:

    Djohnnyg Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    May I ask is the hiring of Al Saunders OFFICIAL yet?
    —————————-
    It was offical when Jer posted it.

  185. r8eray Says:

    http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/371/928/0areceivers_display_image.jpg?1283313360

    ———

    The players (WR’s) seem to like him!

  186. djohnnyg Says:

    184.KoolKell Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
    Djohnnyg Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    May I ask is the hiring of Al Saunders OFFICIAL yet?
    —————————-
    It was offical when Jer posted it.

    Thx. I thought it was just ESPN reporting it not official from the Raiders. I see nothing on the Raider website confirming it.

  187. alex7 Says:

    Dakota, if you know more than Hue about Lal, feel free to share. Otherwise, your points are moot.

    Remember James Lofton? Was considered a GREAT wide receivers coach in San Diego, turning VJax and some other up-til-then no names into fantastic players.

    Comes to Oakland, has NOTHING to work with, receivers don’t stand out. He’s moved on to sportscasting.

    You can’t coach a lack of talent at the highest level. Especially with the QBs we’ve had.

  188. Just Fire Baby Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
    I don’t know where Gradkowski gets off saying anything about anybody’s QB play.

    *************************

    He just stated he played with TWO MCL tears in a meaningless game last season.

    Being that Cutler had an MCL tear, and they play the same position, I think Bruce has ever right to chime in on his experiences.

  189. alex7 Says:

    You can’t TEACH a guy how to catch if he’s NEVER been good at it his entire life.

    Goodness, they way some of you think, YOU could show up in Oakland and Lal would be expected to make you good.

    Why would a 4th rounder with stone hands suddenly improve in the NFL? Hands are the one thing you can’t really teach.

  190. KoolKell Says:

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
    KoolKell Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
    I don’t know where Gradkowski gets off saying anything about anybody’s QB play.

    *************************

    He just stated he played with TWO MCL tears in a meaningless game last season.

    Being that Cutler had an MCL tear, and they play the same position, I think Bruce has ever right to chime in on his experiences.
    ———————————–
    Of course you do.

  191. Dakota Says:

    187.alex7 Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
    Dakota, if you know more than Hue about Lal, feel free to share. Otherwise, your points are moot.

    Remember James Lofton? Was considered a GREAT wide receivers coach in San Diego, turning VJax and some other up-til-then no names into fantastic players.

    Comes to Oakland, has NOTHING to work with, receivers don’t stand out. He’s moved on to sportscasting.

    You can’t coach a lack of talent at the highest level. Especially with the QBs we’ve had.

    ______________

    Okay buddy, if you know more about the players, coaches, schemes than Al Davis and Hue Jackson then feel free to share your opinions on a web site. If not, just STFU cuz your points are “moot”.

    Okay putz, we will all shut up because none of us are close enough to ANYTHING to give our opinions on according to your standards. Please stop posting your thoughts because you don’t meet your own standards. Thanx.

  192. alex7 Says:

    Lal can teach WRs how to run routes better, he can teach them how to come back to the ball, teach them little tricks to get separation.

    Once they do this, and the ball clanks off their hands, you become Troy Williams and 32 teams pass on you, because THIRTY-TWO staffs know you can’t teach catching ability.

  193. Just Fire Baby Says:

    As long as we re-sign Bones Fassell, I am good.

    Did a great job last year.

    We win the ST touchdown battle, turnover battle, block punt battle, kickoff return average battle, and Shane made the Pro Bowl.

    Job well done. He deserves a raise.

  194. alex7 Says:

    whoops, Troy Williamson.

  195. alex7 Says:

    Dakota, I know Hue knows Lal better than you, so I’ll take his word.

    I know most of us understand working the draft in the modern era better than Davis, so we can be critical of that.

    I know most of us understand the need to diversify the D better than Davis does, and we can criticize justly.

    It’s not complicated.

    When all you can do is go to your name-calling, you show your lack of thinking skills.

  196. Dakota Says:

    195.alex7 Says:
    January 24th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
    Dakota, I know Hue knows Lal better than you, so I’ll take his word.

    I know most of us understand working the draft in the modern era better than Davis, so we can be critical of that.

    I know most of us understand the need to diversify the D better than Davis does, and we can criticize justly.

    It’s not complicated.

    When all you can do is go to your name-calling, you show your lack of thinking skills.

    _________________

    You’ll take Hue’s word? How do you even know Hue wanted to keep Lal? You don’t, so I guess you better just STFU huh?

  197. alex7 Says:

    Dakota, I have something called READING SKILLS.

    I know, your brain is confused right now.

    bydavidwhite David White
    by VittorioTafur
    For you Raiders fans, Hue Jackson retained 3 assistants: WRs Sanjay Lal, RBs Kelly Skipper, TEs Adam Henry, all here at Senior Bowl.

    See where it says HUE JACKSON retained 3 assistants? You kinda do something called reading COMPREHENSION and assume that Hue really kept them.

    Crazy huh.

  198. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders need to make sure they do not over use Mr. Ford; kick-off returns, being a #1 or #2 WR, and returning punt, as well as multiple reverse running plays.

    He is our best WR in terms of production, he makes huge plays on end arounds/reverses, and he returned 3 KOs for TDs in what, 12-14 games.

    Raiders do need a PR, but could just go with a solid punt reciever and go after blocked punts more often, forcing more shanked punts in the process.

  199. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Yes!,
    Emphatic Yes!

    Yes Yes
    Double Yes, oh yeah I just typed yes twice…

    I would much rather have for a DB corp

    Brown Mitchell/Branch
    Asomugha CJ/Routt/other

    than

    Huff Mitchell/Branch
    CJ Routt/other

    for my defensive backfield

  200. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Dijohng #178

    Yes, Al Saunders is officiall listed as Raiders’ offensive coordinator on the Raiders’ official website.

    Just saw it a few hours ago, I’ve been checking last few days, today was the first time I noticed it.

    OaklandRaiders.com >Team > Coaches [after Hue as HC, coaches/coordinators/assistants are listed in alphabetical order.

  201. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Terrapin #61, I did see the Raiders’ intro on their web-site

    Hue Jackson and Al expect to go undefeated and win the Super Bowl!

  202. KoolKell Says:

    Alex

    Because Sanjai was retained does not necessarily mean Jackson had no objections.

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