Raiders live chat today at noon
By Jon Becker
Tuesday, January 25th, 2011 at 9:00 am in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
Get Jerry McDonald’s views on the Raiders, including his thoughts on Hue Jackson and Al Davis, during today’s live chat at noon PST.
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January 25th, 2011 at 9:08 am
i saw that both holmes and edwards are FAs. I think either of those guys would b nice additions to our corps and may come a little cheaper than guys like vjax, ocho or rice.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Brandon Fusco anyone?
January 25th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Rodney Hudson ????
January 25th, 2011 at 9:13 am
I could really see VY in Silver and Black next year
VY to OchoCinco. That could be fun
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Tay,
Vince Young is entering the last year of his contract.
He is on pace to make $8.5 million in salary plus a $4.25 million roster bonus (due March 10th)
Chad OchoCinco is under contract for $6 million in 2011, and the money is not believed to be guaranteed.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Orlando Franklin ???
January 25th, 2011 at 9:15 am
whats up Dirty?
January 25th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Vince Young could be another Raider Reclamation project, but…. I say no.
Too many character guys as of late. We got rid of all the guys that didn’t want to be here.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am
The offensive line is the weakest link on the Raiders’ roster, QB, and WR arw close, and has been for what seems like forever. Filling the O-line with younger, better talent will be important for the continued growth and future success of the Raiders.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am
VY will b cut if not traded before roster bonus is due.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Mornin RR.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Carlisle has been, and continues to be, the worst starting offensive lineman in the league. His performances lack effort, production and heart.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Mario Henderson had his chance to prove himself, failed miserably and was replaced by a rookie from a Div-II school
January 25th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Besides, I think all the QB talk is just that. Al likes Campbell. End of Story.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:19 am
Walker was never a great starter or an integral part of the Raiders’ success. He worked well as a stop-gap player in 2010, but was never going to be the “answer” at right tackle.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:19 am
what team in the NFL would pay $12.75 million for a 1-year rental of Vince Young ???
He will be released …
January 25th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Samson Satele is a player that leaves me scratching my head. One play I think, “Wow! What a great play.” The next, “Is he even trying?”
I guess inconsistent is the right word.
Satele has improved over the last two seasons, but not enough to justify letting him continue as the starter. At the moment however, he’s the only center on the team.
Therefore, Satele should only be let go if there is a suitable replacement ready to step up.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Gallery has the potential to be one of the best offensive linemen in the game, but injuries and inconsistency constantly get in the way. If he can’t be on the field every down and make every play, he does the team no good.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Morning peoples!
January 25th, 2011 at 9:27 am
I guess inconsistent is the right word.
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Or ZBS midget is another word/phrase.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Sup Darren,
hows the hammy?
January 25th, 2011 at 9:27 am
Gaither-Walker-Veldheer-Campbell-Henderson
January 25th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Seems that we have a lot of holes to fill with all of our free agents and underachievers. I’m surprised Al let so many key components reach the end of their contracts without extensions. Waiting for the CBA before making moves, perhaps?
January 25th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Everything is good.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
bydavidwhite David White
by VittorioTafur
Welcome to morning practice at the Senior Bowl, where Raiders special teams coach John Fassel still has a job (he was retained).
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There you go JFB.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am
a great day to be a raiders fan,
j hill that’s a monster line, i like veldheer at center too, not too sure about walker, but i do think gallery is overpaid . can we get gaither from the d birds.. is that a hujax connection? with a line like that and bush and dmac,,,a total monster
January 25th, 2011 at 9:40 am
Fassel, isn’t that bad, but Sanjay??????
C’mon man!!!
January 25th, 2011 at 9:42 am
OAKlifer & Raccoon,
Satele was traded from Miami, despite being a 2nd rounder going into his 3rd season having started all 32 games his first 2 seasons in the NFL.
Parcells & Sparano didn’t think he was strong enough. Cable liked his athleticism for the ZBS. with Hue Jackson running the offense we tried to start Jared Veldheer in his place twice, but Veldy couldn’t get the hang of it and Henderson was sucking balls at LT
Samson wont be back … despite being one of the few bright spots on Cable & Michalczik’s scrub filled O-Line
January 25th, 2011 at 9:43 am
22.chiefssuck Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Seems that we have a lot of holes to fill with all of our free agents and underachievers. I’m surprised Al let so many key components reach the end of their contracts without extensions. Waiting for the CBA before making moves, perhaps?
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Maybe thats why he was mad over not makin the playoffs. He know with a new cba the small market team can’t compete??? Nah
January 25th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Carlisle will be starting somewhere next year, you can bank on that.
Remember in 2007, the Ravens signed the guy, announced the signing on their website as their new starting RG, and than Al swooped in the midnight hours and out-bid Ozzie Newsome for him.
Since than he has started all but one game, for a top-tier rushing offense, and is one of the least penalized lineman in the league.
I wouldn’t be suprised if almsot got the same amount of money as Gallery does if he were a FA.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Great news about Fassel!!
Last year we:
-Had 4 ST TD’s and only gave up 1 (plus a safety)
-Forced 5 ST turnovers, and only coughed up 2
-Seabass led the league in scoring;Shane ProBowler
-Had a higher kick return average than our opponents (we did lose the PR battle)
I hope Al gave him a 15 year contract extension
January 25th, 2011 at 9:47 am
j did you notice how well veldheer gets down field, he is a devastating blocker in the open field, he only has trouble with speed rushers.. and when he locks on it’s a done deal. mmove him to center you kill his two faults, the speed rush and false start penalties..he is big enough to handle the nose tackles we face one on one.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:48 am
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January 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am
WTF?!^^^^
January 25th, 2011 at 9:52 am
JFB (re: post 29)
remember that was only a 2-year contract we gave Carlisle in 2007.
We let him test the waters in free agency prior to the ‘09 season. He had 1 visit with the Bucs and they passed on him. Nobody else even gave the guy one sniff … then Al Davis threw a 5 year contract for starter money at the guy!
LOL
He’s scheduled to earn $2.5 million in 2011 and $3 million in 2012
January 25th, 2011 at 9:52 am
I thought it was impressive the way free agent to be Caleb Hanie played in the NFC chamionship, considering he barely played all year. He was thrust into a championship game in the second half down 14 points, And responded pretty well.
If it wasn’t for a BJ Raji pick six, A lot more teams who need a QB would be talking about this guy, He has potential. I say sign Hanie and don’t resign Grads. Maybe someone worth “grooming”. I know that grooming QB’s isn’t exactly the raiders strong point, but what the hell.
January 25th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Nah dirtee…prolly just waiting for the “secret” GM to come back from vacation. lol
January 25th, 2011 at 9:58 am
i think veldheer was alright at center this year but henderson was terrible so cable moved veldheer out to lt. and put satele back in, who had been hurt in camp. in my opinion veldheer is our best lineman hands down.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Veteran quarterback Todd Collins didn’t play well in spot duty for injured starter Jay Cutler during Sunday’s NFC Championship Game. But his 0-for-4 passing performance wasn’t the reason Collins came out of the game for the Chicago Bears.
A source said Monday that Collins suffered a shoulder injury on his final snap of the afternoon, taking a hit from Packers nose tackle B.J. Raji on a third-and-2 pass with 3:10 left in the third quarter.
Collins is scheduled for an MRI on Tuesday to determine the severity of the injury, and there’s a chance he’ll need surgery. That could mean the end of Collins’ 16-year career, which started with the Buffalo Bills and also took him to the Kansas City Chiefs and Washington Redskins.
Collins has thrown for 4,547 yards and 22 touchdowns with 24 interceptions in his career. He has started in just four games since 1997, when he was the Bills’ No. 1 quarterback.
Collins, 39, signed a one-year deal with the Bears in August, but he played in just two regular-season games, completing 10 of 27 passes for 68 yards and no touchdowns with five interceptions. If Collins decides to keep playing, the Oakland Raiders could be an option since they just hired former Redskins offensive coordinator Al Saunders.
By Albert Breer (NFL.com)
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nobody is happier than Jason Campbell!
January 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Will,
Veldheer is the only C on the roster at this point.
Hell Some scrub came in for Pouncey this past weekend and the Steelers didn’t miss a beat.
Veldheer can certainly play C, in the coaches mind at least.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Bill Williamson rated Cooper Carlisle the 13th best O-lineman in the AFC West in 2010 (9th best in 2009).
Right behind Casey Weigman and Brian Waters.
The guy is a starting NFL guard, no two ways around it.
This is the way Williamson described his list:
Our AFC West position-by-position rankings are continuing with the offensive line. We are going 14 players deep this year. If he is on the list, then he’s pretty good.
Also states in 2009:
The Raiders re-signed guard Cooper Carlisle and tight end Tony Stewart. Re-signing Carlisle was big for Oakland. Many thought Carlisle was the team’s best lineman last season and he was being courted by other teams.
Link provided:
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/tag/_/name/cooper-carlisle
January 25th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
January 25th, 2011 at 10:04 am
HairyBush Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 9:52 am
I thought it was impressive the way free agent to be Caleb Hanie played in the NFC chamionship, considering he barely played all year. He was thrust into a championship game in the second half down 14 points, And responded pretty well.
If it wasn’t for a BJ Raji pick six, A lot more teams who need a QB would be talking about this guy, He has potential. I say sign Hanie and don’t resign Grads. Maybe someone worth “grooming”. I know that grooming QB’s isn’t exactly the raiders strong point, but what the hell.
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What makes you think he’ll be available. I see him as the Bear’s new #2 QB.
As far as Grads goes, he won’t be back. AD as much said so in his PC when he said he’s just too fragile and not dependable. I don’t think you’ll see Boller back either. My guess is that we’ll see Alex Smith picked up cheaply in FA. We may also see Frye back – cheaply too as the #3 QB. JCampbell is going to be the #1 QB s long as he’s not hurt.That’s just what I got out of AD’s PC.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:05 am
HairyBush,
Caleb Haney had his Brucekowski v Pitts 4th quarter.
I wouldn’t read too much into Haney’s greatness. two TDs and two picks.
plus, when Caleb came in, it was obvious that Green Bay’s D took its foot off the gas and went into more of a prevent mode both before Chicago’s first TD and after Raji’s interception return.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:08 am
My guess is that we’ll see Alex Smith picked up cheaply in FA. We may also see Frye back – cheaply too as the #3 QB. JCampbell is going to be the #1 QB s long as he’s not hurt.
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Agreed with JB
January 25th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I think Alex Smith would pressure Campbell for the starting gig over time.
Not saying he would get it, but if Bruce Gradkowski brought some heat to Campbell’s starting gig, than I’m sure Alex Smith would do the same.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:09 am
31.r8rwill Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 9:47 am
j did you notice how well veldheer gets down field, he is a devastating blocker in the open field, he only has trouble with speed rushers.. and when he locks on it’s a done deal. mmove him to center you kill his two faults, the speed rush and false start penalties..he is big enough to handle the nose tackles we face one on one.
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It’s too hard to find a LT. His weakness should be coachable/correctable. If he doesnt show that good year 2 progress, then yeah try him else where. He is the best LT we have had since Berry Sims, and Sims was not great, this kid can be.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:15 am
This league is all about D-lineman and QB’s right now.
Look no further than this upcoming draft. First two guys will be D-liners (Fairley/Bowers) and 3 of the first 5 will probably be D-liners (the ‘Bama guy as the 3rd).
Kiper said that as many as 10 D-lineman could be taken in the first round this year.
It don’t matter if you have Anthony Munoz at LT, these elite D-lineman are getting knocks on the QB during the game. Did anyone see Michael Oher in his playoff game? That guy may be in the HOF one day and he was abysmal in the second half. I though I was watching Mario Henderson.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Did anyone see Michael Oher in his playoff game? That guy may be in the HOF one day
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link? source?
January 25th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:09 am
I think Alex Smith would pressure Campbell for the starting gig over time.
Not saying he would get it, but if Bruce Gradkowski brought some heat to Campbell’s starting gig, than I’m sure Alex Smith would do the same.
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You are probably correct but I think JCampbell will florish in our offense and if he has a decent O-Line and some WR’s who can catch. he will develop into a very good QB. I would like to see a little more fire & leadership energy both on & off the field. He needs to improve his confidence level but that will come with future successes. What’s important right now is creating a stable consistent environment around him and we are going in that direction.
I’m with some others i here who think Ocho Cinco will be a Raider next year. I also think theyy should start developing DHB as a CB. He’s got size, speed, knowledge of WR routes and should be able to convert into someone who could get in the way of some passes in his direction. I don’t expect a lot of INT’s but Nnamdi isn’t all that great in that category either.
Assuming an improved O-line, Ocho Cinco & Schilens as wide outs, Ford in the slot, Bush & DMac in the backfield, ZMiller at TE, Jcampbell couldn’t ask for more. That’s a very scary offense.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez caught wiping snot on teammate Mark Brunell during AFC championship
Someone get that man a tissue.
In Sunday night’s AFC Championship game, CBS cameras turned on Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez Sunday night just in time to see him pick his nose – and wipe it on backup quarterback Mark Brunell.
With a snot ball stuck on his Jets’ jacket, Brunell looked down and made a face at Sanchez, before the cameras cut away.
Arizona placekicker Jay Feely was one of many NFL players cracking up at the clip.
“Did you just catch Sanchez adding some green to Brunell’s jacket? Mark Sanchez just picked his nose and wiped it on Mark Brunell! Ha!!” the veteran tweeted during the game.
The caught-on-camera faux pas was one of the few things that Jets fans could laugh about after a game where Sanchez had two fumbles, including a mishandled snap. Despite a second-half rally, the Jets lost to the Pittsburgh Steelers, 24-19.
CNBC commentator Darren Rovell joked on Twitter, “How bad were the 1st 20 minutes for the Jets? The greatest pick of the game came out of Mark Sanchez’s nose.”
The 24-year-old Sanchez has been known to joke around on the sidelines thoughout his career. This summer, on HBO’s “Hard Knocks,” he was shown putting a stink bomb in the defensive coaches’ meeting room
By Nina Mandell
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LOL! did anybody else catch this?
January 25th, 2011 at 10:24 am
JB,
I can see Ocho Cinco as a Raider, but I hope it is a FA and we don’t have to give up a draft pick for him.
Not sure why we will “Assume” an improved O-line. IMO, the key to an O-line is not talent or draft status, but continuity together with each other and the QB. Due to injuries, most teams end up starting 6-7, maybe 8 guys at O-line throughout the year, so if you can have that core 5 guys, those are you usually your best lines in the league.
We are looking at a few new starters, and some with some serious inexperience in general, and certainly with each other. As the year progresses it may be an improvement, but I am assuming Soup is going to be running for his life the first month of the season.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:26 am
That is friggen funny!
January 25th, 2011 at 10:27 am
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January 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
48.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Did anyone see Michael Oher in his playoff game? That guy may be in the HOF one day
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link? source?
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ht tp://WW .DirytRaccoonDraftGuid.com
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http://WW .DirtyRacconToldYouAllM.OherWasGonnaBeInTheHallOfFame.com
January 25th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Qb is not a weak link on this team unless your talking about gradkowski. Campbell played well down the strecth and was good in games where he actually had some similance of mediocre pass protection. JC even played well in a game or two where pass protection was horrific, making plays at crucial time. I have to agree with hu jack and al, he came along way from the begining of the season, seemed to find his grove, and became the leader of this offense. he will only get better being reunited with saunders, and in his second year in this offense.
Offensive line was the biggest problem on offense followed by poor receiver play. The line couldnt pass protect ( one of the worst in the nfl), and couldnt run block consistently ( manhandled by moer physical defenses). As much as everyone wants to point the dirty end of the stick at JC, it just isnt accurate.
Even Boller is a decent back up. Look around the leauge and you will see very few teams have a back up with as many games started in the nfl, except for old timers like mark brunel. Boller and fry backing up Jc is a good situation to have. i know boller was terrible in limited action, but often times an experienced back up plays much better with a week running starters reps, rather than coming in cold from the bench.
No the only truly weak link in our qb rotation was Bruce gradkowski. Too fragile, and makes bone headed decision, turning the ball over, on top of a severe lack of accuracy.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Rockstar
LOL! did anybody else catch this?
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Yes, that was hilarious. It was actually featured on a late hour sports show Game day.
Sanchez’s parents must really have loved that move. I guess it was better there than on the center’s ass during the game just prior to a snap.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:29 am
#40, jfb come on man you believe anything williamson says? he’s a raiders hater..lol
January 25th, 2011 at 10:31 am
If the Raiders get a QB at all in this draft, I wouldnt be surprised if they tried to get Taylor Potts either in the 7th or as an UDFA. This guy has great size and a rocket arm, but working in the Texas Tech spread system has lowered his draft value and apparently he is not all that accurate. That is the kind of player that I could see Al going for: low risk, would not be much of a threat to Jason Campbell and can throw the long bomb.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:31 am
2nd round – C/OG Stephen Wisniewski or CB Jimmy Smith
3rd round – OLB Greg Jones or OG/C John Moffitt
4th round – OG/OT Lee Ziemba or OT Marcus Gilbert
5th round – DT/NT Ian Williams
Attempt to re-sign Asomugha/Routt, Seymour, Miller, Wimbley, Reece, Bush, Huff, Loper, Condo, Cartwright, Henderson.
If Bush walks, sign Willis McGahee and/or draft a late-round back.
If Huff walks, sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.
If Asomugha walks, sign Jonathan Joseph and/or draft a CB.
If Routt walks, sign Richard Marshall or draft a CB.
Also… I can’t believe I’m saying this… sign Ochocinco if/when he gets cut. Don’t like his personality, myself, but he has a positive impact on young receivers (unlike TO) and loves playing for Hue.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:32 am
since we’ve brought in 1 blast from the past for Jason Campbell in Al Saunders, what about Mark Brunell as a backup (mentor) type?
They both played for the Redskins from 2005-2007.
Interview with Mike Wise at the Washington Post:
“What player did you learn the most from in your career?”
“Mark Brunell,” Campbell said, launching into a nice tribute about how the man he replaced helped him become a better person off the field.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Al Saunders is officially listed on the Raiders web site!
January 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am
So much for all the hype about huff being a really good safety. He had 1-2 really good games, a couple of average non discript games, and some really brutal games. Not what i would call a indispensible cog.
Before anyone comes back with the old standby that single high saftey is impossible, check yourself. Look around the leauge. The giants won the super bowl using a single high saftey. The packers used a lot of single hig against the bears, the bears played some man with a
single high this year. the main difference is that these teams also were able to mix the coverages, and didnt have to rely on single high as much as we did. This is in large part becuase our safties, and secondary were so bad in zone we had dumb it down and go vanilla. This is why we played more man to man single high than any team in the leauge.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am
54.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:27 am
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January 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
48.RaiderRockstar Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Did anyone see Michael Oher in his playoff game? That guy may be in the HOF one day
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http://WW .DirtyRacconToldYouAllM.OherWasGonnaBeInTheHallOfFame.com
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why mods? why
January 25th, 2011 at 10:35 am
R8rwill,
I don’t believe in “Raider haters”.
A figment of imagination.
Williamson gets paid to report on the AFC West, and I trust that his reporting as at least as accurate as anything anyone types in here.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Semi-Pro Blogger > Bill Williamson!
January 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
62.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am
So much for all the hype about huff being a really good safety. He had 1-2 really good games, a couple of average non discript games, and some really brutal games. Not what i would call a indispensible cog.
Before anyone comes back with the old standby that single high saftey is impossible, check yourself. Look around the leauge. The giants won the super bowl using a single high saftey. The packers used a lot of single hig against the bears, the bears played some man with a
single high this year. the main difference is that these teams also were able to mix the coverages, and didnt have to rely on single high as much as we did. This is in large part becuase our safties, and secondary were so bad in zone we had dumb it down and go vanilla. This is why we played more man to man single high than any team in the leauge.
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who played shs for those teams?
January 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
JFB
Not sure why we will “Assume” an improved O-line. IMO, the key to an O-line is not talent or draft status, but continuity together with each other and the QB. Due to injuries, most teams end up starting 6-7, maybe 8 guys at O-line throughout the year, so if you can have that core 5 guys, those are you usually your best lines in the league.
We are looking at a few new starters, and some with some serious inexperience in general, and certainly with each other. As the year progresses it may be an improvement, but I am assuming Soup is going to be running for his life the first month of the season.
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First & foremost, we need a center who can stand his ground. Satele & Carlisle are like a NY turnstyle. Satele would be OK as a backup but that’s it. Carlisle just hasn’t got it any longer. Veldheer & Gallery are fine on the left side. On the right side I think we’ll see either BCampbell or MHenderson auditioning for RT. BCampbell also might be seen at RG. Loper is also available as a guard backup. Walker, because he knows the system would be a reasonable backup. Barnes should continue as the blocking TE lineman. So, that being said, a line-up of Veldheer, Gallery, new guy, Bcampbell & MHenderson could be a very good line.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:38 am
67.JB Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
JFB
Not sure why we will “Assume” an improved O-line. IMO, the key to an O-line is not talent or draft status, but continuity together with each other and the QB. Due to injuries, most teams end up starting 6-7, maybe 8 guys at O-line throughout the year, so if you can have that core 5 guys, those are you usually your best lines in the league.
We are looking at a few new starters, and some with some serious inexperience in general, and certainly with each other. As the year progresses it may be an improvement, but I am assuming Soup is going to be running for his life the first month of the season.
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First & foremost, we need a center who can stand his ground. Satele & Carlisle are like a NY turnstyle. Satele would be OK as a backup but that’s it. Carlisle just hasn’t got it any longer. Veldheer & Gallery are fine on the left side. On the right side I think we’ll see either BCampbell or MHenderson auditioning for RT. BCampbell also might be seen at RG. Loper is also available as a guard backup. Walker, because he knows the system would be a reasonable backup. Barnes should continue as the blocking TE lineman. So, that being said, a line-up of Veldheer, Gallery, new guy, Bcampbell & MHenderson could be a very good line.
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Right, thats why so many LT are low picks.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:40 am
So a new C, a new RG playing the position for the first time in his life, and a RT that will be relatively green to that side as well, and you think that is an upgrade?
Eventually maybe, but in 2011, that would be an epic fail.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:42 am
for those of you moaning about Huff/Branch/Mitchell safety combos – rewind the Dorsett-Pope-Gibson-Schweigert decade for evaluation – I think you’ll find that the safety position (FA notwithstanding) is much improved.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:42 am
First off OchoStinko is not a good WR there are 30 better ones in the league….how do I know? I put together a list before and posted it in PFT because the guy cares more about what car he drives to the game and dancing then catching the damn ball.
We do not need any more of these kinds of players and since Randy Moss our owner AD has stayed away from trouble makers and he will continue to do I would think.
So stop the Ocho Stinko talk its not going to happen and if it did it would not make us a better team.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:47 am
If Asomugha leaves, Oakland would be in line for a 2012 compensation pick. It will likely be the No. 97 overall pick at the end of the third round.
ESPN
January 25th, 2011 at 10:48 am
I’m through w/ M. Henderson. Can’t we do any better? And NO I don’t want him on the right side.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Let’s take a look at how the AFC West roster shakes out:
Denver
WR Brandon Lloyd*
Kansas City
S Eric Berry*
WR Dwayne Bowe
QB Matt Cassel
RB Jamaal Charles
LB Tamba Hali
OG Brian Waters
Oakland
CB Nnamdi Asomugha*
P Shane Lechler
TE Zach Miller
San Diego
OG Kris Dielman*
LB Shaun Phillips
QB Philip Rivers*
* Denotes starters.
Oakland defensive tackle Richard Seymour and San Diego tight end Antonio Gates had to withdraw from the game due to injury.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Seriously,
Gradkowski is not good enough to be a backup QB on the Raiders?
Kyle Boller and Charlie Frye (Ended the last two seasons on injured reserve) are better than Gradkowski?
Kyle Boller? WTF, people were screaming that he was allowed to throw the ball on 4 and short?
Why the hate?
I can understand if you think we are going out and getting V. Young or Palmer as a backup, then I understand the hate.
What I hope for is that J. Campbell comes in as the starter, we draft a QB in latter rounds for development and Bruce is out backup for Campbell.
I would rather have Bruce Gradkowski than Todd Collins.
Alex Smith? WTF-The dude is a ground game killer, the only way he is decent is out of the shotgun.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:50 am
stop the Ocho Stinko talk its not going to happen and if it did it would not make us a better team.
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If Chad Johnson thinks Carson Palmer sucks, what in the world is he going to think of Jason Campbell or Bruce Gradkowski ???
what is he going to think when he sees DHB on the opposite side of the field from him as a 16-game starter while Ford, Murphy & Schilens rot away on the bench?
January 25th, 2011 at 10:51 am
The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
who played shs for those teams?
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It doesnt matter, its beside the point.
Ny i think wa antrell rolle and kenny phillips
gb c woodson ( at times) nick collins
chi chris harris
January 25th, 2011 at 10:53 am
M Lonetree Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:42 am
for those of you moaning about Huff/Branch/Mitchell safety combos – rewind the Dorsett-Pope-Gibson-Schweigert decade for evaluation – I think you’ll find that the safety position (FA notwithstanding) is much improved.
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no doubt improved but not good enough
January 25th, 2011 at 10:53 am
77.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:51 am
The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
who played shs for those teams?
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It doesnt matter, its beside the point.
Ny i think wa antrell rolle and kenny phillips
gb c woodson ( at times) nick collins
chi chris harris
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the guts you named are all better than what we got.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:54 am
M Lonetree Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:42 am
for those of you moaning about Huff/Branch/Mitchell safety combos – rewind the Dorsett-Pope-Gibson-Schweigert decade for evaluation – I think you’ll find that the safety position (FA notwithstanding) is much improved.
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I do like mitchell & brown a lot
January 25th, 2011 at 10:54 am
78.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:53 am
M Lonetree Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:42 am
for those of you moaning about Huff/Branch/Mitchell safety combos – rewind the Dorsett-Pope-Gibson-Schweigert decade for evaluation – I think you’ll find that the safety position (FA notwithstanding) is much improved.
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no doubt improved but not good enough
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word m to the s
January 25th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Ochocinco is past his prime, but the guy still has skills. Better hands and a better route runner than every WR on the Raider roster, besides maybe Ford. He also still commands double-coverage – he was doubled all season even with TO on the roster.
If he gets cut? He’ll be a low-risk signing, and he’ll want to play for Hue. He’s not worth trading for, but as a free agent signing he’d be a good veteran presence for the young kids on the team. Might be loud, might be brash, but it’s been a long time since the Raiders had a receiver who WANTS the ball to come to him. The receiving corps could use that kind of confidence.
Sure, there are a lot of much better receivers out there, but with all of the in-house signings that have to happen it’s doubtful that Al is going to make a big splash.
Personally, I’d love for Al to make a run at Sidney Rice or James Jones, but I don’t see it happening. Steve Breaston is available, but he’s injury prone and wouldn’t have the same kind of veteran presence that Chad would.
The only veteran that there’s any chance of the Raiders signing is Ochocinco, because of Hue’s connection to him. Give him a one or two-year deal with incentives and see what happens. There are much worse moves the Raiders could make at this point.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Anyone who thinks Stevie Brown could fill in for Michael Huff with no dropoff is delusional.
Brown was a LB in college, for a pathetic defensive college at that.
His athleticism is drastically less than Huff’s, and would need amazing instincts to compensate for the difference to cover center field.
If he had such instincts, his college FB defense might not have given up 50 points a game and let him slip to the 7th round in the draft.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:57 am
I want to see Groves and Goethel compete for the WLB spot, and Mitchell and Branch compete for the SS spot.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:58 am
The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:53 am
77.Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:51 am
The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
who played shs for those teams?
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It doesnt matter, its beside the point.
Ny i think wa antrell rolle and kenny phillips
gb c woodson ( at times) nick collins
chi chris harris
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the guts you named are all better than what we got.
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That was the point of my post, huffs defeciencies in zone coverage, & tackling make him a liabilty in our defense. We need an upgrade. I also dont think he is enough of a ball hawk when the ball is in the air.
In our defense free saftey must be a good player, not just average, or up & down.
January 25th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Ocho’s best chance at a SB win was the year Pitt won against Seattle. If Kimo didn’t roll on Palmer’s legs…
I think Ocho will probably shut his mouth here and maybe teach the youngsters how to play WR…then again, I could be wrong too…but, its up to Al, isn’t it?
January 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am
If Huff walks, the Raiders NEED to bring someone in to compete with Brown for that FS spot. I like NE’s Jarrad Page. He played some decent football for the Chiefs as a starter there.
Brown might be able to cut it, but the Raiders shouldn’t be counting on him and him alone to step up and fill a role that carries more responsibility than any other position on the defense. And Branch and Mitchell are not one-deep type safeties.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:07 am
FS Chris Harris has played good football for the Bears and has been a very solid locker room presence for the team, but I’m not sure he’s a one-deep kind of player and the Bears might want to bring him back for at least another season.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Anyone who thinks Stevie Brown could fill in for Michael Huff with no dropoff is delusional.
Brown was a LB in college, for a pathetic defensive college at that.
His athleticism is drastically less than Huff’s, and would need amazing instincts to compensate for the difference to cover center field.
If he had such instincts, his college FB defense might not have given up 50 points a game and let him slip to the 7th round in the draft.
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Did anyone make that claim? however i dont think the drop off is dramatic, and with more playing time he will be better than huff. he has mcuh better ball hawking instincts, as evidenced by his abilty to take the ball away. he made almost as many plays in his rookie year as huff has made in his entire career.
Although I dont think he is ready to start full time.
Who cares if he switched positions it happens all of the time in the nfl. Rich rods defense is a 3-3-5, its all about small speedy lbs same size as safties generally. This was the issue. That front wont work against big strong big ten kids that pound you.
The problems with the wolverines defense had very little to do with brown
January 25th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Colts owner Jim Irsay indicated Tuesday that his team has no interest in signing free agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha.
It’s not the Colts’ style to chase high-profile free agents, and Asomugha is a poor fit for a cover-two team. Irsay would prefer to draft and develop his own players. “It’s worked well for us (and the Steelers),” Irsay wrote. “The cap restricts.”
Source: Jim Irsay on Twitter
January 25th, 2011 at 11:14 am
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am
If Huff walks, the Raiders NEED to bring someone in to compete with Brown for that FS spot. I like NE’s Jarrad Page. He played some decent football for the Chiefs as a starter there.
Brown might be able to cut it, but the Raiders shouldn’t be counting on him and him alone to step up and fill a role that carries more responsibility than any other position on the defense. And Branch and Mitchell are not one-deep type safeties.
YoungAmerican Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 11:07 am
FS Chris Harris has played good football for the Bears and has been a very solid locker room presence for the team, but I’m not sure he’s a one-deep kind of player and the Bears might want to bring him back for at least another season.
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YA, you are right on the money, i would love to see a guy to compete and help out with browns development. Pge is a good stop gap.
Also harris is best suited in that cover two scheme that the bears use as there base. I was only pointing out that when the bears did man up, he played single high.
Main point is until we have a more versatile free saftey ( huff isnt it) we will continue to struggle and be exposed in our man coverage.
I also agree that mitchell is a best at strong safety, i think he should unseat branch.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Williamson High School coach Bobby Parrish said Panthers college scout Jeff Beathard called him recently to ask background questions about Auburn DT Nick Fairley.
He added that other teams, including the Raiders, have sent questionnaires about Fairley, but the Panthers are the first team to call. It’s standard procedure and something that Carolina will do with multiple other players, but it confirms Fairley is under consideration for the No. 1 pick. ESPN’s Mel Kiper has the Panthers taking Fairley in his first mock draft.
Source: Charlotte Observer
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Could big Al, pull off a trade to get back in the 1st round?
January 25th, 2011 at 11:21 am
The Eagles are not expected to hire a defensive coordinator soon, likely because they’re eying Packers and Steelers assistants.
Packers DL coach Mike Trgovac and ILBs coach Winston Moss have been connected to the job, and OLBs coach Kevin Greene could be an option, as well. On the Steelers’ side, LBs coach Keith Butler and DBs coach Ray Horton could be on the list. Former Saints DBs coach Dennis Allen has been the only confirmed candidate for the Eagles thus far, but he took the Broncos’ DC job.
Source: Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News
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Al should really consider Moss and Butler. Pees is another candidate that others on here want.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:23 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Seriously,
Gradkowski is not good enough to be a backup QB on the Raiders?
Kyle Boller and Charlie Frye (Ended the last two seasons on injured reserve) are better than Gradkowski?
Kyle Boller? WTF, people were screaming that he was allowed to throw the ball on 4 and short?
Why the hate?
I can understand if you think we are going out and getting V. Young or Palmer as a backup, then I understand the hate.
What I hope for is that J. Campbell comes in as the starter, we draft a QB in latter rounds for development and Bruce is out backup for Campbell.
I would rather have Bruce Gradkowski than Todd Collins.
Alex Smith? WTF-The dude is a ground game killer, the only way he is decent is out of the shotgun.
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Yes seriously. fry and boller have been starters in the nfl , and have some qaulity wins on the resume, grads isnt close, on top of his physical limitations.
End of story
January 25th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Damn, there sure are a whole lot of reserve/future contracts going on right now.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Could big Al, pull off a trade to get back in the 1st round?
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I think the term “Big Al” is entirely inappropriate, and non descriptive of today’s tottering Al Davis.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:26 am
per Al’s standard practice, I expect him to wait until all of the 31 other teams have hired their DC’s then he will lowball the best available candidate, hopefully someone who will work well with the players, coaches and scheme already in place.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:26 am
I think Huff is plenty versatile and put a good year together, but I don’t think the Raiders should break bank to re-sign him based on one respectable year. I feel the same way about Routt, although I don’t think Routt is half the player Huff is.
The Raiders should definitely make an effort to re-sign Huff, but if doing so would prevent them from bringing back a guy like Nnamdi, Seymour, Miller, or Wimbley I don’t think it would be worthwhile.
There’s something to be said for consistency at that position, but over his career Huff’s play has been far from inconsistent.
Still, he made some key plays this year, that cannot be denied. I think Huff is one of the bigger question marks in free agency this offseason.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Huff’s play has been far from consistent**
January 25th, 2011 at 11:29 am
KoolKell Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Could big Al, pull off a trade to get back in the 1st round?
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I think the term “Big Al” is entirely inappropriate, and non descriptive of today’s tottering Al Davis.
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Yeah…Cam Newton!
January 25th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Move DHB to CB and then Ocho Cinco can have no. 85.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:31 am
if huff walks you move nnambdi to free and cover with johnson, routt, mcfadden and ware..
January 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Does Al Davis really get on the phone with his peers to discuss Kim Newton? Really?
What does he do for the Raiders all day?
Can’t use a computer mouse with those fingers. Probably doesn’t know how to use one anyway.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am
he made almost as many plays in his rookie year as huff has made in his entire career.
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What???
Did Brown make ANY plays last year?? I believe he recovered a fumble on a punt return, had one pass defensed and 15 tackles to go with the 5 missed ones.
Preseason does not count.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am
I guess John Herrera is really the boss of the Raiders, these days.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:40 am
# KoolKell Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am
I guess John Herrera is really the boss of the Raiders, these days.
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Wrong! I’m the fk’n boss and you should only speak, when you’re spoken to.
January 25th, 2011 at 11:50 am
cam newton??? Oh u must mean kim. lol
January 25th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
huff had his first good year this year problem is he was horrible all the other years…
January 25th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
102.r8rwill Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 11:31 am
if huff walks you move nnambdi to free and cover with johnson, routt, mcfadden and ware..
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Good idea, and then we will move RoMac to DE, and McFadden to FB, and J. Veld to C, and Ford to ST gunner.!!
January 25th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
huff played out of position his first years..at which he was adequate..
January 25th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
I’d rather get TO instead of 85.
January 25th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Me TOo
January 25th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
There will be at least 2 new WRs here next year.
January 25th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
If any other team in the league had carted out an 80 year old owner who looked like Freddy Krueger to fire their head coach, you guys would be in stitches laughing, no matter what that owner had accomplished decades ago.
January 25th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am
he made almost as many plays in his rookie year as huff has made in his entire career.
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What???
Did Brown make ANY plays last year?? I believe he recovered a fumble on a punt return, had one pass defensed and 15 tackles to go with the 5 missed ones.
Preseason does not count.
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I was being sarcastic
January 25th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
If Al Davis could pull some strings prior and in the draft I would love to see
C/G Stephan Wisnewski = Smartest lineman coming out of college who plays with a mean streak
OT Nate Solder= Raw, but at 6″8 315 lbs he’s a nice fit opposite of Veldheer
ILB Casey Matthews= Football runs in his veins. nuff said about him
January 25th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Which one of the posters here do you figure, bathes Al Davis?
January 25th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Ahhh come on Jer!!!! not one question?!?!?
January 25th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Best part of the chat was this:
“12:18 [Comment From Fat Mike Kelly:]
Hi Jer, who ya think is going to be the next DC? I think its some asst in Pittsburg.
12:19 jerrymac: Don’t see Raiders going for someone with a backround in a LeBeau 3-4 defense.”
Because trying to pluck someone from the LeBeau coaching tree might lead to defensive success and we can’t have that in Raiderland!
January 25th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Which one of the posters here do you figure, bathes Al Davis?
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HuntEatRaiders
January 25th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
“Jer” wouldn’t even concede that the Press-conference was tacky.
That’s how he got the nick-name.
January 25th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
“Which one of the posters here do you figure, bathes Al Davis?”
Lynn from Snott is giving him a spounge bath as we speak!
January 25th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Can you imagine any CEO who couldn’t use a computer?
January 25th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
“Which one of the posters here do you figure, bathes Al Davis?”
Mista Brown is handling the butt wipe, which is where he got his name from….
January 25th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Al Davis can’t do anything for himself. Totally dependent on others.
So who’s really running the Raiders, Herrera?
January 25th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Al Davis can’t do anything for himself. Totally dependent on others.
So who’s really running the Raiders, Herrera?
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He might be dependent on others to due pyshical things but make no mistake what ever he says goes Herrera might be running the mouse but Coach Davis is calling the shots.
January 25th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
wow my spelling…….
January 25th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
He might be dependent on others to due pyshical things but make no mistake what ever he says goes Herrera might be running the mouse but Coach Davis is calling the shots.
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Yes, but based on what? Dude cant’ even gather his own information to base his decisions on.
I don’t doubt he’s calling the shots, but where does he get his info? Supplied to him by whom?
And, it’s not just physical liabilities. Kim Newton?
January 25th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
LOL…Adam Schefter just tweeted that Chad Ochocinco is leaving and Chad Johnson is coming back…is that a sign?
January 25th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
There will be at least 2 new WRs here next year
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Yes, Jhill.
depth guys to replace JLH & Nmiller
soooo…. what 2 players are we looking at to absorb those 13 catches?
I think it’s fair to assume that DHB could take up all of that and more heading into Year #3. If Zach & Chaz stay healthy there is really no balls for an additional 5th or 6th WR to make a run at!
January 25th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
i thought that was her name…kim