Raiders also interested in Perry
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, January 28th, 2011 at 5:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.
CSN-Philadelphia reports the Eagles are interested in Green Bay safeties coach Darren Perry as a candidate for defensive cooridnator, even intimating there could already be an offer extended behind the scenes.
I’m hearing the Raiders are interested in talking to Perry about the the same vacancy. Perry was the Raiders secondary coach in 2007 and 2008 and a defensive backs coach for Pittsburgh in 2004-06. He has not been a coordinator in the NFL and his level of interest in rejoining the Raiders is not known.
The Raiders have already spoken to former defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan, but my understanding is if he rejoins the club, it will be as linebackers coach, replacing Mike Haluchak.
Bresnahan coached linebackers for the Indianapolis Colts in 1996-96 and coached linebackers for the Florida Tuskers in the UFL in 2009 before becoming defensive coordinator and also coaching linebackers in 2010.
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January 28th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Wow…so I guess we’ll see after the Super Bowl!
January 28th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
# M Lonetree Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Since Belicheat was called out for cheating he has won exactly zero Super Bowls. fact.
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Since Ron Wolf left the Raiders, Al Davis has won exactly zero Super Bowls. Fact.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
208.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
207.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
point black ,belichick blow the seymour trade.
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He’s 14-2 and this year! The team he dumped Seymour off to was 8-8.
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Saymour may be back in New England in 2011 for free.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
A good DC is the key to a winning record resigning Free agents are a little less important. That is if Al lets the DC mix up the coverage some.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
So Perrry, or Moss? Or none?
January 28th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
The Raiders have already spoken to former defensive coordinator Chuck Bresnahan, but my understanding is if he rejoins the club, it will be as linebackers coach, replacing Mike Haluchak.
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That would be ok.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
The last defensive coordinator to have any real control here was Willie Shaw. That was over a decade ago.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Eagles also interested in Jeff Fisher as DC, though I’m sure he’ll take a TV analyst gig and wait for a HC opening in ‘12. I’m thinking Perry has to prefer the stability of Philadelphia, but you never know.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Chucky B back in town? Too bad Willie Shaw is not around…
January 28th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Can’t judge the Seymour trade until we see what they do with the draft pick.
What if they use it to draft Kim Newton and he turns out to be the greatest QB ever? Or if they draft someone who completely flops, no matter what we won.
The ultimate call of the winner of that trade won’t be known for years to come.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Yeah I think Fisher will take a year off and wait for better opportunities…but you never know.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
We should hire Fisher’s mustache.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Can’t judge the Seymour trade until we see what they do with the draft pick.
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Nonsense. It’s certainly a valid point to say that a number one pick would suit a team like us well right now, and to ask the question if a better GM could have made the Seymour deal without giving up this year’s number one pick.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
After looking at Al and assuming he fell and smashed his head, maybe he allows Hue more autonomy. I guess I’m just hoping he had some sense knocked into himself…courtesy of himself.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Al will probably suprise everyone and hire another college “unknown” as new DC. Maybe we’ll get lucky.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
I would only be convinced that we had a real DC if Al hires someone that we simply know would not just sit there and take orders from him, someone like Monte Kiffin or Dick LeBeau. Anyone short of that, no matter how successful in whatever little college job they had, would be just another puppet until he proved otherwise.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Do you guys think we trade up to round #1. I think so…it’s not like picking up free agents that are former #1 picks that are too tired to help (and overpaying them). Still a crap shoot anyway you look at it. imo
January 28th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
16.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
I would only be convinced that we had a real DC if Al hires someone that we simply know would not just sit there and take orders from him, someone like Monte Kiffin or Dick LeBeau. Anyone short of that, no matter how successful in whatever little college job they had, would be just another puppet until he proved otherwise.
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I totally agree but will such a coach of that caliber come to Oakland?
January 28th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
I would agree with you MR…
January 28th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
M koolaid drinking aside you really do get a feel for what Mr Davis may or may not do. I was allowed to see this organization from the inside out and I’m very thankful and appreciative that I did. I saw a lot and I know the myths as well as some facts.
I try to share as much as I can without divulging so much that I break the trust. It has been a few years since I had that kind of contact but I’ll never forget my experiences. I don’t consider myself an insider at all, just someone who was afforded some insight.
January 28th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
KiffinRaider,
the statement of fact that Belicheat has won zero Super Bowls since he was caught out cheating was followed by your declaration that the Raiders have zero Super Bowl wins since Ron Wolf left.
your intimation is that Ron Wolf cheated as well, hence no more Super Bowl wins.
you do realize that there is no other way to interpret the analogy.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
BHP,
for me, those years between 68 and 75 were far more deflating than the past seven or eight years of failure.
In those years, to have the greatest of teams and to be turned back time and again on the doorstep was as hard for a fan to take as it gets.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
10.Just Fire Baby Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Can’t judge the Seymour trade until we see what they do with the draft pick.
What if they use it to draft Kim Newton and he turns out to be the greatest QB ever? Or if they draft someone who completely flops, no matter what we won.
The ultimate call of the winner of that trade won’t be known for years to come.
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Not true. A first is a first, could be a bust, could be a HOF, or any where in between. This trade can be judge as a folp, cause we have not signed Seymour to a long term deal. If we do get hem long term, it will have been worth it. Whos to say we wouldn’t have signed him as a FA in 2011 regardless of the trade.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
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January 28th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
M you are so very right I cannot emphasize enough how extremely frustrating that was. Because everyone said we couldn’t win the big one. We were the best team in the league some of those years and we couln’t win it all. We should have at least 7 Lombardi trophies IMO those offseasons were excruciating…….
January 28th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
When the Jets won it all we lost on a backwards pass when KC won we beat them twice in the season and had to play them a 3rd time. When the Steelers won we had the “immaculate reception” and the Lytle fumble just KILLED me. HOW ON EARTH do you miss that call??
If not 7 SB’s definitely 6 trophies.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
# WARaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
will such a coach of that caliber come to Oakland?
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No.
So I for one am not going to get excited about whatever DC Al brings in. I’m not buying one ticket because of it.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
priesttj Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
I was allowed to see this organization from the inside out
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More so than Lechler?
January 28th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
sorry guys, the seymour trade has been great for us, whatever the pats do with the pick is moot to us, we got what we wanted! yuo can’t find the total package big rich brings to the table with the seventeenth pick!!!i am sure mr davis would make that trade again..
January 28th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
M Lonetree Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
BHP,
for me, those years between 68 and 75 were far more deflating than the past seven or eight years of failure.
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LOL. Every Raider fan I’ve talked to who was alive in that era says nothing but great things about being a Raider fan then. They were only deflated for a brief moment in January, when the Raiders would fall to the Steelers or Dolphins. Other than that being a Raider fan then was being on top of the world, and that’s the sentiment I’ve heard from EVERYONE I’ve talked to who was a Raider fan in those days. Of course, you’re probably 25 years old anyway and pretending to be an OG fan.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
belicheat stabbed seymour in the back,,do you really think he would go back and play for him??
January 28th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
r8rwill Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
we got what we wanted!
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You’re not speaking for all fans. I’d like that number one pick. We’re a rebuilding team and draft picks are key in these early phases of franchise building.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
r8rwill Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
belicheat stabbed seymour in the back,
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How’d he stab him in the back? You mean by trading him to the Raiders? LOL.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
The Seymour trade was good for both teams, and for Richard Seymour. He contributed right away (without the learning curve) and if you’re playing the odds was a much safer bet for this team than whomever we would have chosen in the first round this year. We also have the advantage of having the plyer two years earlier.
New England may get a star, they may not. They tend to draft pretty well, so they will no doubt get a contributor, but to say that they will get a player the caliber of Richard Seymour with that pick is sheer guesswork, and Seymour’s ability is not debatable.
I do think it’s important to get him signed. Two years is not enough when you have to give up a high pick like that to acquire him.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
32.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
r8rwill Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
we got what we wanted!
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You’re not speaking for all fans. I’d like that number one pick. We’re a rebuilding team and draft picks are key in these early phases of franchise building.
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i`ll take richard seymour.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Look it’s not a competition MR it was something I had great fun doing I’m not fashioning myself as a Raider know it all or anything i had great fun and will never forget it.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
edward teach Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
if you’re playing the odds was a much safer bet for this team than whomever we would have chosen in the first round this year.
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A 31 year old defensive tackle is a safer bet than a 23 year old draft pick?
January 28th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
BlackDeath, I think a better GM could have gotten us Seymour and kept the number one pick.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
MR you have you’re hearsay to lean on but I was there during those years and that stuff still KILLS me so if they say it was over a short time later they aren’t Raider fans…………….period
January 28th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Yeah, no risk in this guy:
“.. Seymour refused to report to the Raiders in the days following the trade, reportedly unhappy about being traded to the team.[17]
The Boston Herald, Boston Globe, and National Football Post all claimed that on or before September 10, the Raiders sent Seymour a formal letter ordering him to report within five days or risk being placed on the reserve/left squad list, which would prevent him from playing for any team in 2009, and thus would prevent him from achieving free agency until he played out his contract in 2010.[18] Moreover, the Herald reported that Seymour was in fact in possession of that letter.[19] The next day, on September 11, he was placed on the team’s exempt/left squad list.[20]
On September 12, the Globe reported Seymour reported to the Raiders after the Herald had reported that Seymour felt “blindsided” by the trade. Seymour said there were “personal issues” concerning his family and that an NFLPA grievance filed on his behalf, which claimed the Raiders were not allowed to send him a five-day letter, was a “procedural thing.”[21]
January 28th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
heck i would trade next years no one draft pick for mankins in a new york minute.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
Priest, I’m just saying, I have never, ever, ever heard a fan from that era express such a low opinion of being a Raider fan in those days, and especially dare to say that it’s funner to be a fan now. You and Lonetree are the first. Every fan of that age that I’ve ever spoken to, in my life, in fact says the opposite. They loved being a fan in those days because they knew the Raiders were going to win every year. You and Lonetree are the first people I’ve ever heard say that it’s better to be a fan today.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
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January 28th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
38.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
BlackDeath, I think a better GM could have gotten us Seymour and kept the number one pick.
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maybe he could or maybe he could`nt,the bottom line the raiders got a probowler.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
That’s not what M meant he compared the last 7 years to those and I’m here to tell ya’ that stuff was extremely frustrating because we were like I said the bets team in the league someof those years and had zero to show for it. Our first SB win was like a an extremely dark cloud had finally been lifted.
Thes past 7 years we were horible and it was very strange feeling to be that low, I hated it hated the cristicism but we were good enough to do anything. So all you wanted was improvement but that stuff was like a freakin CURSE!!! back in the day.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
i would make that trade again.i don`t think n.e. would.
January 28th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
great gradkowski raider i don’t care what the boston globe said about the trade, seymour himself said he wasn’t opposed to it, he needed the time to get his business and family together, he was totally blind sided (back stabbed) by the trade…he came here and has played his heart out, and contributed big time..seymour is a raider at heart!!
January 28th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
#46,bbd29 i agree totally…
January 28th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Madden,
Keep bringing up the “not wanting to report” story. Pretty much everybody that read that story (and listened to the frantic sports talk-show banter regarding it) also knows that Seymour has said himself afterwards that he felt blindsided by the trade because he wasn’t expecting New England to trade him at all and it was a bombshell dropped on him unexpectedly.
He has also said himself that the timing of the trade affected his kid’s just enrolling in school, and other family matters, and that he took the extra time to report in order to straighten his family situation out before leaving to go completely across the country to play football.
Now, you can say that he’s lying, but that’s what the man said. He’s here, and he’s contributed a lot ot this team since he has been. And yes, in answer to your earlier question, I do feel he was a safer bet than a 23 year-old kid. Richard Seymour is a known quantity that stepped in and helped our defense. It was a pretty safe bet that he could do at least as good a job at that as a 23 year-old rookie.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
i think we are two maybe three players away from the big game, a monster tackle , guard or center, a vet wideout and a safety that brings fear will do it, barring injury of course…
January 28th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
two players, both top caliber vets like seymour, mankins/gaither on the oline ocho/plax/vjax at wideout would make us a dynasty. and if i was gm i would trade the #1 pick 2 years from now and money for vjax, mankins or gaither,, like i’m from dah bronx lol wouldn’t you???
January 28th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Seems MR forgot the “Sea of Hands” game against the Fins, selective MR, very selective!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
I was a fan since 74 and I tell ya…I hated those Steeler games! Everytime they won, they had to play us at one point in the season, playoffs, whatever, during the season!Although time has passed, I still have that bitter feeling everytime Pitt hoists the Lombardi!
The one year that killed me was when Bo went down for good! Lost like what? 51-3 in the AFC Championship game that year to the Bills…One can only imagine!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Hwnrdr, I feel your pain!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
would love to have mankins(free agent)and draft wiz if possible.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Heartbreaking defeats at the doorstep would be very difficult to take. MR, as a sactown Kings fan you should know that!
GOOOOO LAKERS!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
i’ve been a fan for a long time, many ups and downs, i can’t remember a season that showed more promise then this season. we have all the key pieces in spades. we have a good professional coaching staff, a good special teams unit a good offense with awesome running backs, a quarter back on the rise, a good defense, young eager talent on the roster and we are all hungry.. i think it is all good and i am excited..
January 28th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
I’m thinin AD is thinkin the same way, hence the hireing, but for morale, it’s hugh, thinkin #21.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
if bo got hurt today he would be back playing next season with that injury.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Dakota…funny you say that because I live with a Kings fan who always tells me that Horry’s 3 pointer should have never counted…well, just like that year when we were about to beat the Chargers in SD and the receiver (can’t remember who it was) caught the ball, never got touched and spiked the ball on the ground…and then the refs called it an illegal friggen forward pass! WTF?
January 28th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
R8, critics aside, the O-line still needs help. They tried, but rushing yards could of been much better, and QB sacks and injuries could of been lower.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
HMMMMMMMM
Report: Rolando McClain Purchased Gun Prior To Shooting
By Chuck Carroll»Football News Now Staff Writer» January 28, 2011 – 8:19 pm
A report suggest Oakland Raiders linebacker Rolando McClain purchased a firearm Thursday prior to the shots being fired at his car later that evening.
According to WAFF-TV, McClain made the purchase at Academy Sports in Decatur, Ala.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
# bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
if bo got hurt today he would be back playing next season with that injury.
So True! Hey, Bo knows this and Bo knows that…and Bo also knew pain! Very unfortunate for 20 years ago!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
I see some real hard work being put in here to try and make the Seymour trade look bad. I live in NE and I can tell you, more than 50% of the NE fans here didn’t like the trade when they thought they were getting a top 5 pick, let alone #17. Seymour has played at a pro bowl level for this team and was a big reason for the team’s improvement this year. No reason for Raider fans to be upset about this one.
And no, no “better” GM was going to pick up a four time all pro with 3 rings who went the pro bowl 6 times as both a dt AND a de for a second round pick or two. Right, they grow de/dt all pros on trees. NE woulda given up one for chump change or Oak coulda snatched one right up at #17, sure.
Maybe you should go back to coach autonomy, or perhaps DHB. More traction there.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
# bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
maybe he could or maybe he could`nt,the bottom line the raiders got a probowler.
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The bottom line is the Raiders are a rebuilding team without a number one draft pick.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
If Bush didn’t have that endurance problem, do you think that he “could” be like Bo, and DMac be like Marcus?
January 28th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Davy, Ct here n you?
January 28th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
priesttj Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
That’s not what M meant
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This is what he said:
M Lonetree Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
BHP,
for me, those years between 68 and 75 were far more deflating than the past seven or eight years of failure.
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Far more deflating?
I’ve never heard a fan who remembers that era ever mutter such words. Never mind what he meant. I’ve just never heard such morbid words used to describe the Raiders of the early ’70s, their lack of a trophy noted.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
i would make that trade again
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LOL. That doesn’t surprise me.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
if bo got hurt today he would be back playing next season with that injury.
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Nope, not with that injury. Bo suffered a subluxation of the hip resulting in avascular necrosis, which is a lack of blood supply to the ball joint of the hip. Basically the bone in his hip died. Same treatment now as there was back then….hip replacement surgery.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Priest, those years defined the Raiders as we know them, look at who’s mouthin off, they weren’t even born yet……
January 28th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
edward teach Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Madden,
Keep bringing up the “not wanting to report” story.
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It was in response to someone saying that Seymour was less of a “risk” than a draft pick. Seymour almost set out the remainder of his contract to avoid coming here. That’s more than a risk. That was a potential disaster.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
65.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
# bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
maybe he could or maybe he could`nt,the bottom line the raiders got a probowler.
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The bottom line is the Raiders are a rebuilding team without a number one draft pick.
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your a strange raiders fan guy.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
hwnrdr Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Dakota…funny you say that because I live with a Kings fan who always tells me that Horry’s 3 pointer should have never counted…
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He clearly got that shot off…..what he should be pissed about was his team’s inability to hit free throws during crunch time. They choked big time! Loved it!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Seems MR forgot the “Sea of Hands” game against the Fins, selective MR, very selective!
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You don’t even know what you’re taking about. I’ll give you a hint: You actually helped my argument. Pay attention.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
I know, Dakota…but you can’t argue with a Kings fan…I just let him complain because I know we won that year!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
The only way the Seymour trade is a success is if we get 2-3 more good years out of him. If he gets away via free agency this offseason then the trade was a failure.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
# Dakota Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Heartbreaking defeats at the doorstep would be very difficult to take. MR, as a sactown Kings fan you should know that!
GOOOOO LAKERS!
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Well, I could always jump on the Laker bandwagon like you. Then the misery’s over. I’m not the biggest Kings fan in the world, but honestly, I’d rather be a Kings fan with all of it’s misery than be one of these middle American yahoos who just jumps on the Laker bandwagon like a 12 year old girl buys a Justin Bieber album.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
well to be honest, dmac reminds me of bo, let’s call it bo light..
January 28th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
MR, not playing into your game, but Facts belie your weak arguments. Not Casper, Clark. Look it up! Out fellers…
January 28th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Dakota Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
HMMMMMMMM
Report: Rolando McClain Purchased Gun Prior To Shooting
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Do you have a problem with him exercising his 2nd amendment right?
January 28th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
My son took his first steps tonight. 5 small steps for Dakota jr. We begin training for his future NFL career tomorrow. We’ll start with an intial 40 time and see how he improves on a monthly basis.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Priest, those years defined the Raiders as we know them, look at who’s mouthin off, they weren’t even born yet……
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Ha ha!!!! Keep making my point, dude. You’re awesome. You’re so clueless! You have no idea what we’re arguing about, do you? Review this entire thread, and you’re going to be feeling pretty stupid. But I must say you make a great ally!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
# bigblackdeath29 Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
your a strange raiders fan guy.
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And you’re the typical Raider fan who doesn’t understand football.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
I only respect Laker fans from LA, or Laker fans who were fans BEFORE Kobe and Shaq. You don’t fit one of those categories, you’re a bandwagon teenie bopper, not far removed from the typical Jonas Bros. fan.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Laker fan since 1986….yes I was bandwagon! Captain, Worthy, Magic, Cooper, Scott, Rambis!!!!!! Yeah baby! Chick Hern calling the games. fkn awesome!
January 28th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
MR, not playing into your game, but Facts belie your weak arguments.
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Your facts are helping my argument, dumb dumb! Read the thread! You don’t even know what you’re doing right now. You’re taking my side. You’re just a ding dong tonight, aren’t you?
January 28th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Dakota Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Laker fan since 1986…
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Sure.
I’ll bet you didn’t watch one game between ‘91 and ‘2000.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
It was in response to someone saying that Seymour was less of a “risk” than a draft pick. Seymour almost set out the remainder of his contract to avoid coming here. That’s more than a risk. That was a potential disaster.
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Seymour didn’t “almost sit out the remainder of his contract”. The risk that he might have was pure media speculation, which was completely debunked when 1) He reported to the Raiders, and 2) He said himself that the reasons he reported late were due to the suddenness of the trade relative to his family situation.
Now, YOU may have considered him a risk to sit out his contract based on a story in the Boston Globe, but I think the proof is in what actually happened, and the only risk seems to be an imagined one based on the Globe story and others who couldn’t conceive of Richard Seymour’s actually reporting to the Raiders.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
thegreatgradkowskiraider is in heaven right now,,he is getting so much attention..
January 28th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Dakota Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
Laker fan since 1986…
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Sure.
I’ll bet you didn’t watch one game between ‘91 and ‘2000.
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What are you talkin’ about? Nick the Quick, Sedale Threatt, Eddie Jones in the draft the first time the Lakers were ever in the lottery. Cerdric Ceballos. Vlade working the paint.
Dark days for sure, but they were still entertaining….and then the great summer of 1996….Fisher in the draft, Shak via free agency…Kobe via a trade withe the Hornets for Vlade.
Never should have traded Eddie Jones and Eldon Campbell and van excell. I dream of what Phil could have done with Van Excell, Eddie at 2 guard, Kobe at SF, Eldon and Shaq on the block.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
***Van Excel***Shaq***
January 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
2.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Since Ron Wolf left the Raiders, Al Davis has won exactly zero Super Bowls. Fact.
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And since Mike Holmgren left the Packers, Ron Wolf has won zero super bowls…BTW manure for brains, Wolf left For Tampa Gay in 75′ and came back to Oakland in 78′(where he was rumored to hate working for Culverhouse because he interferred).
Of course, the 1977 draft was arguably one of the greatest, if not the greatest draft in Raider history, that produced Mike Davis, Mickey Marvin, Lester Hayes, Rod Martin and Rolf Benirshke(who was a great kicker for San Diego). So clue us in captain pu$$y, who ran that draft?…You’re still a studio gangster.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
As much as I like DMc and I really like him. Bo was just damn near supernatural. His power was abnormal and his speed was freakish. I’ve never seen anything like him since if he had had a couple of training camps we have no clue what he would’ve done with a full training camp and season 3 or 4 years in a row. He may have gone for 2,000 yards in one season on 300 carries that’s somewhere near 7 yards a carry. He barely knew the offense by the time the Oline was used to him and he them the season was over.
Naw DMC is sensational but Bo was otherworldly.
January 28th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
edward teach Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
The risk that he might have was pure media speculation, which was completely debunked when 1) He reported to the Raiders,
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How does him reporting debunk the speculation? For all we know, he caved to the Raiders’ threats of making him inactive and not letting him out of the contract.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Alright, Dakota, you’re a true Laker fan. But I certainly never said Horry didn’t get the shot off. The Kings played too soft with that lead. No lead holds up against the Lakers if there’s time on the clock. That’s common NBA knowledge. They got soft, and the Lakers came back by just going in the paint to Shaq over and over again. Kings didn’t start trying to stop it until it was too late.
But, of course, the league was going to give it to the Lakers anyway. We know that now, don’t we?
January 28th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Bo was the best back I have ever seen…..better than Walter, Barry, Emmitt, Davis, Nigerian Nightmare, Tomlinson.
Had he dedicated himself 100% to football we would have had multiple SBs in the 1990s. We wouldn’t have even played the Bungholes that year had he played all 16 games.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
dakota is a bonafide lakers fan. anyone who can remember sedale threatt has to have been there!!go lakes, they are gonna kick the kings azz tonite, just a tuneup for sunday.. you know vlade was the tallest point guard ever lol
January 28th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
Getting Seymour signed long term is crucial to the trade being a success, yes. But owing to a relatively successful season, that is far more likely now than it’s ever been since the trade happened. So why not be optimistic about it? Always easier (and usually better) to sign your own FAs than someone else’s.
Believe me, after the jets loss, pats fans cried about this trade and they’re still crying about it. “Waaah, no pass rush.” tells me all I need to know.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Bo did say this past year in a pre-season game against, I think Chicago…that had the Raiders picked him first, he would have never played baseball! Imagine that! Funny because he ended up being a 7th round pick the year after Tampa Bay selected him #1 overall!
January 28th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
I liked Bo when I was a kid but overall Marcus Allen was the better football player.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
And that has plagued NE in that game because yes, they were an NFL’s best 14-2, but their defense were all too suspect! They relied too much on Brady and it did show! Had Seymour still been in NE…they probably would win this years Super Bowl!
January 28th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
Completely agree with post 97…Bo was the man.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
He was MR, but Bo was just fun to watch! Never will forget that run when he ran over The Boz into the end zone! I can only imagine if Marcus and Al never got into that feud…
January 28th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Based on what Maddendummy? Bo’s yards per carry blow away Nicole’s affair…and Bo played on lesser teams.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Marcus Allen ran over everyone that got in his path. All Bo has on Marcus is speed and power. Everything else, Marcus was better. Agility, blocking, catching, route running, everything.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
The Bo injury followed by Magic getting the HIV followed by the LA Kings blowing the finals due to a curved stick by McSorley, followed by Allen leaving the Raiders, followed by Ryne Sandberg breaking his wrist, and capped off by ND blowing the BC game a weekor two after beating Florida State in the “Game of the Century”.
Early to mid 1990s were rough for me as a sport’s fan!
January 28th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
BO WAS AWSOME,MARCUS WAS THE ALL AROUND BETTER FOOTBALL PLAYER.HELL, I WOULD TAKE MARCUS ALLEN AT QB OVER ANYBODY ON THE CURRENT ROSTER…
January 28th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
You’re an LA Kings fan too, Dakota? LOL. What did LA do to earn your loyalty?
January 28th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
106.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Marcus Allen ran over everyone that got in his path.
LOL!…I think that was Bo dummy.
All Bo has on Marcus is speed and power.
5.4 yards/carry to Marcia’s 4.1
Everything else, Marcus was better. Agility, blocking, catching, route running, everything.
And banging O.J.’s wife…whoops…Marcus did all those things better than Jim Brown, who would you rather have at running back?
January 28th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
Also I love how you keep igorning that first post of mine Maddenpu$$y.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
You’re an LA Kings fan too, Dakota? LOL. What did LA do to earn your loyalty?
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8 year old kid….I didn’t want to conform to the local Broncos fan base, so I chose their nemesis….the LA Raiders…saw a Howie long football card and thought that looked pretty awesome.
Figured I would go for all the LA teams….dropped the Dodgers for the Cubs when my dad got me hooked on them via WGN.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
LOL. It’s cool, Dakota, I was a fan of all the LA teams when I was a kid, too. Weird. Dodgers, Raiders, and believe it or not, Lakers. Then from about high school to mid twenties I stopped watching sports altogether…except football. Stayed Raiders all the way through. But by my mid 20’s, I’ve pretty much been all Kings and A’s. So with the Raiders moving back to N. Cal, now all my teams are local. LOL.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
priest i agree bo was the greatest ever, only thing he didn’t have longevity. and i was not trying to compare bo and dmac. it is just that dmac has power andd speed and if that isn’t enough he’ll lower his head and pads and knock the poop outa some body.. some of my all time fav memories are of bo steamrolling players on his way to the house..like dmac did to weddle? in sd this season
January 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Marcus may have been a more complete player but he wasn’t better than Bo, Bo was easily as good as Marcus at a lot of things he jsut never had the training Marcus got.
Bo could block he just never ahd the time to train and get it down. he could catch he just never spent the time training for routes and timing.
As i said if Bo had had a couple of training camps in a row he would have been the best HB in the history of the game bar none!!
January 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
my #34 jackson throwback jersey is my favorite. wear it only on special occasions now, it is my tuxedo..lol
January 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
I would rather DMac become Marcus Allen than Bo Jackson. Remember also that Bo played in a time when defenses were not as strong, and a little bit slower. And even then Bo was home run or nothing, typically…albeit with A LOT of home runs. In today’s league, a hit or miss breakaway back is almost useless. Granted, if they had Bo’s ability, that would be another story. But DMac doesn’t. I’d much rather see the Raiders try to develop him into something like our franchise all time rusher, Marcus Allen.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
priesttj Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Bo was easily as good as Marcus at a lot of things he jsut never had the training Marcus got.
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WHAT?!?!?!?
Bo Jackson played football his entire life, just like Marcus! What do you mean he didn’t have the training?
January 28th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
LOL. It’s cool, Dakota, I was a fan of all the LA teams when I was a kid, too. Weird. Dodgers, Raiders, and believe it or not, Lakers. Then from about high school to mid twenties I stopped watching sports altogether…except football. Stayed Raiders all the way through. But by my mid 20’s, I’ve pretty much been all Kings and A’s. So with the Raiders moving back to N. Cal, now all my teams are local. LOL.
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I’ve always wonder if I moved to a big city that had the major sport’s teams would I switch? I don’t think I could. Maybe when I was real young (like how I dumped the Dodgers for the Cubbies…bad move, I know), but by my teens I was hooked on them. Not judging you, but just wondering what I would have done. I probably would have made them my second favorites….but I don’t think I could ever replace my teams.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Both DMC and Bush are on par talent wise with Marcus Allen. Marcus was much stronger than he looked he could drive right through you DMC is just faster. Bo Jackson would just flatten you and never break stride. I have never seen anything like him.
If you gave Bush DMC’s speed that would compare to Bo Jackson. If Bush ran a 4.3 40 that would compare to Bo jackson. When Bo would turn a corner it was like watching a cartoon he would hit guys so hard.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
The thing is Dakota, I just lost all interest in baseball and basketball in high school. Didn’t care. I still liked football though and followed the Raiders religiously. Once I started following again in the mid ’90s, the Kings were finally starting to compete and the A’s were playing good. I could never be a Giants fan. Now that’s truly selling out, taking up a rival team. And remember the Kings and Lakers meant nothing until 2000.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Bo was much faster than DMC and stonger than Bush.
One bad dude. May never be another in our generation.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
priesttj Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Bo Jackson would just flatten you and never break stride.
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If he was handed off the ball and the defense was at least somewhat deceived.
Marcus may break stride, but he would certainly flatten you, and he could do it from a hand off, or after catching a ball.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
That period of separation helped you, plus the fact that you had local choices. I could see that happening.
Night all….time to go watch season 1 of Battlestar Gallactica on Netflix! Living the life!
January 28th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Sweep, I don’t know. Bo was a physical phenomenon compared to most NFL running backs of his time, but he wasn’t some rare breed of human. Defenses are much faster and stronger now. For all we know, there could be another Bo in the league right now where genetic ability is concerned, we’d just never know it because defenses bottle up running backs so much easier now. If a 25 year old Bo played in the NFL today, he would NOT be as good. You’d have to be crazy to think otherwise. You wouldn’t get one player, former or current to agree with you. They all agree the league is faster and stronger now.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
MR this is why I don’t converse with you man, I said a TRAINING CAMP!!! preseason and training camp to learn the offense and hone his skills. You know what I mean but too freakin argumentative to acknowledge it.
At the NFL level he played midseason on when everyone else had hit their stride his first 2 games were his training camp. And he would flat dominate them…………period
January 28th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
One last thing. Back when I still played Madden (probably 2005), I always created Bo Jackson and used him as the Raiders RB and Marcus Allen as FB. Sometimes I would create Howie Long too.
All 99s baby!
January 28th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
You’re a retard they have guys not nearly as talented as Bo rushing for 1,500 yards. There isn’t a player in captivity that compares to Bo jackson…………..period
January 28th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
Wow, I just found out DMAC was a HOF’er! nice
January 28th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
I didn’t read enough of your comment, priest, because I stopped when you said “training”, which is all you said the first time. You didn’t say “training camp” until the end of your comment. Your choice of words.
That being said, I don’t buy the training camp aspect of it, either. The Raiders, with the exception of Shannahan and Gruden, always used vanilla offenses. Very few wrinkles. And, again, both Marcus and Bo had played football their entire lives, starting with pop warner as children. If Bo were as capable as Marcus of blocking and catching, he wouldn’t need any training to do it, especially in the Raiders’ offense.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
marcus was a great one too, he played fullback in college so he was a great blocker, he was deceptively fast, didn’t look like he was running fast his strides were so long. he wasn’t the running back bo was tho. bo was money..he could run inside or out and if he didn’t have a blocker in front of him it was okay, he’d lower his pads and make his own road
January 28th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Priest, forget it. When you act like a child and start using insults like that, you’re not even worth it. I don’t care how old you are, you are 12 years old on the inside. You have no ability to have an adult conversation. If someone disagrees with you, you just fly off the handle like a toddler.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
I saw Bo Jackson run over Steve Atwater 10 yards down feild and do a flip going into the endzone and Steve was still lying there. Wondering what hit him.
Atwater was 225 lbs a flat out beast and Bo never broke stride…………lol
January 28th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
priesttj Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
You’re a retard they have guys not nearly as talented as Bo rushing for 1,500 yards. There isn’t a player in captivity that compares to Bo jackson…………..period
(true)
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Priest, forget it. When you act like a child and start using insults like that, you’re not even worth it. I don’t care how old you are, you are 12 years old on the inside. You have no ability to have an adult conversation. If someone disagrees with you, you just fly off the handle like a toddler.
(true)
Can’t wait to read this stuff tomorrow!
January 28th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
And, priest, one thing I’ve noticed, it seems to be the biggest Davis supporters who have this childish attitude toward anyone who disagrees with him. When you consider Al’s classless barbs at Cable and Kiffin two different press conferences in the past few years, and Herrera’ behavior with Kawakami, I think it says something about this organization. An organization of classless fools who are just incapable of controlling themselves. No surprise the team hasn’t had a winning season since 2002.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
If you don’t know, you don’t know just move on….
January 28th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
F@## you! Make me “move on”! This isn’t your blog. You move on.
January 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
You do that to yourself….don’t you?
January 28th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
One reason Hue Jackson is so important: He’s the only mature adult in the organization. The rest of the organization is a bunch of people like priest. Just watch Al’s press conferences in the past few years, Herrera’s barbs at Kawakami and Gannon, and then read Priest’s comments. Bunch of stupid children. All of them. The whole organization, except Hue. Losers who act like it. Cable was wrong. You can still certainly call the Raiders losers, as long as jerks like you are around and they don’t have a winning season in 9 years to show for it!
January 28th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
i don’t know that marcus was the more complete back, bo didn’t have to block or catch. we handed the ball to him and he ran it! it was all the offense we needed..
January 28th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Then get outta here go blow it somewhere else this is for Raider fans just in case you didn’t notice……….BYE!!
January 28th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
This isn’t for Raider fans, you idiot! It’s for anyone! This blog is open to the public! Anyone can register! You are so stupid is amazing.
January 28th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
bo was the craziest athlete ever…freakish
January 28th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
Then go register on the niner blog we don’t need whiner fans in here stinking up the joint………….GET OUT!!
January 28th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
bo definitely was a threat to go every time he touched the ball.
January 28th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
Bo was the most freakish athlete ever but a niner fan wouldn’t know the diff…………….Get OUT!!
January 28th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
# r8rwill Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
bo didn’t have to block or catch. we handed the ball to him and he ran it! it was all the offense we needed..
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If that were true, we would have been a playoff team in 1987, 1988, and 1989.
January 28th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
priest, you don’t decide who needs to be in here, for whatever reason. You’re nobody. This isn’t your blog. You’re a frequent commenter, with zero authority. Chump. So guess what? I’m not going anywhere.
January 28th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Priest, why are you telling people to get out of here when this is not your blog? You have zero authority. You don’t write for the Oakland tribune. You don’t work for IBA. You a commenter, nothing more. Why are you telling people to leave? What gives you that right?
January 28th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
oh yeah i remember that atwater play, the one i think of all the time is when bo ran over brian bosworth on his way to the house.. theboz was never the same after that and i think he was out of football the next year or so…lol
January 28th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
# r8rwill Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
theboz was never the same after that and i think he was out of football the next year or so…lol
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Be careful. Because Bengal fans can say the same thing about their 1990 defense, and what they did to Bo.
January 28th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
what they did to bo…please it was a freak injury…
January 28th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Any Raider fans worth his salt would know what kind of player Bo was except a stinking niner fan, why do you come everyday with your nonesense son?
January 28th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
priest, wouldn’t an ‘ignore button’ be a great thing on here??? i often think about having a troll patrol…we use this sight to share info, to some it is ebtertainment, others just like to stir it up to get attention.. the greatgradkowskiraider is of the latter ilk.. i am afraid.. we feed the trolls they get bigger. rmr is on here twenty four seven, it is a big part of his life, and in all honesty he is more to be pitied thaan scorned….
January 28th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
I like Bo, and I hate to do this. But this punk priest deserves nothing less. Now, aside from Bo not having a Super Bowl ring, which we already know, here’s more on the great, unstoppable Bo Jackson, who was “all the offense we needed”.
1989 season, we’re 8-6 going into our final two games, our opponents are Seattle and NY Giants.
Seattle – Bo Jackson: 12 carries for 69 yards. Not bad. But not enough. Certainly not “all the offense we needed”. Evidently we needed more.
Here’s mr. Clutch a week later, vs. NY Giants, final game of the year, with a playoff birth on the line-
10 carries for 35 yards.
Looks like Bill Parcells “knows” Bo. LOL.
I like Bo, but priest deserves a splash of water.
January 28th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
never ever seen a player like bo never will either….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BReD8xk2KqI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
January 28th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
# olinesux Says:
January 28th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
what they did to bo…please it was a freak injury…
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It turns out, he had a bad hip. Perhaps that’s something Tampa Bay might have known about. How do we know the Bengals weren’t spearing for that hip? If they were, they in fact took him out, for good. So be careful if you’re going to boast of Bo putting Boz out of the game.
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let the whiner fan hang around, its fun seeing somebody make a fool out of themselves….
January 28th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
priest you are one of my favorite posters and i would hate for you to blow it on a nobody and get suspended. it has happened to others, myself included.
some on here have a lot to say and say a lot, a few say a lot and have nothing to say.. we know who they are even when they don’t!1lol
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Bresnahan wouldn’t be bad as a LB coach
January 29th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Like others have said, it doesn’t matter what coaches we bring in so long as it’s davis’ defense, we won’t stop the run.
January 29th, 2011 at 11:03 am
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JUST SKIP IT.
I SAID DON’T READ THIS.
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