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NFL-NFLPA statement

The following statement was released jointly by the National Football League and the National Football League Players Association on negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement:

NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith and Commissioner Roger Goodell met today in New York to discuss a range of issues related to a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. As part of a process to intensify negotiations, they agreed to hold a formal bargaining session with both negotiating teams on Saturday in the Dallas area. They also agreed to a series of meetings over the next few weeks, both formal bargaining sessions and smaller group meetings, in an effort to reach a new agreement by early March.

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  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    LA to the Bay,

    Al Davis certainly IS a Hollywood guy. Why do you think he went there in the first place? Did you see the press conference recently? Al embodies Hollywood. All show, no substance. “we have the mystique”. Come September, loss, loss, loss. Al is all about showbiz.

    And, here’s the cold water.

    Al’s problem in LA was not that he wasn’t LA, it’s just that he wasn’t as good at showing off as people in LA are. In Oakland, Al was the man. It’s not a celebrity laden town. So Al had a small pond to compete with. In LA, he had an entire city of big shots out there who were basically out-Al Davising Al Davis, if you will.

    Make no mistake, Al went to Hollywood for the same reason an aspiring actor gets off the Greyhound bus on Sunset Blvd. He had stars in his eyes. And by the mid ’90s, like most starving actors, Hollywood had chewed Al up, spit him out, and he got right back on that bus to Oakland.

    But my thinking anymore is, if Al’s not going to win, he should leave Oakland. Oakland deserves winners. While some might call Oakland a “bully” culture, I don’t see it. In fact, LA’s inner city is more of a bully culture, with the aggressive, territorial gang culture. Oakland has always been about making money and surviving. And, albeit, with that comes its fair share of violence. But I don’t see the bullying mentality. I see the capitalist mentality, and it’s not good. But it’s not the territorial chaos you see in LA. I’ve walked through West Oakland before, in the ghetto. A few times, actually. I would never walk down Central avenue south of the 10 freeway in LA, ever. Because in LA, nobody gets a pass. That’s the rules down there. There’s your bully culture.

    Al didn’t leave LA because LA doesn’t fit his personality. Al left LA because Al simply wasn’t good enough for them, according to the warped world of showmanship in which he lives.

  • YoungAmerican

    Phil Taylor would give the Raiders a long-term replacement for John Henderson (and maybe even Richard Seymour?), and would give their defense the versatility necessary to successfully implement 3-4 looks.

    I would definitely not mind him being the second round pick. Surprised to see them considering a top NT prospect, but I’m glad they are.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    They are definitely looking at D-Line though, both DE’s and DT’s. Al seemed very happy with that group, but I guess Waufle has Al’s full attention, and he is asking for even more help.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    As good as the defensive line was, depth is needed.

    Seymour’s status is up in the air. Will he a sign a multi-year deal? And if not, is he worth franchising again?

    Kelly was brilliant this year, but could relapse into lethary and underachiever mode at any moment.

    Henderson may be starting to break down and is a free agent in any case.

    Desmond Bryant is a good pass rusher, but a miserable run defender.

    Scott may never be that fast presence off the edge ever again after his ACL tear.

    Lots of uncertainty. Glad they’re looking into adding some other pieces!

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    # r8dercain Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am

    BTW there is only one nation, The Raider Nation
    always Wil be that way. Been to Heinz field an from what I saw of the area didn’t look nowhere near what east Oakland looks like
    —————–
    So slums, poverty, and crime is appealing to you?

  • YoungAmerican

    If the Raiders really want to stay with their base 4-3 Cover 0 with occasional 3-4 looks, their best bet is to stop the run at the defensive line, because those linebackers are going to be in coverage more times than not.

    Would still like to see more gap discipline, but that’s just not the way Al wants the Raiders to play defense. It is what it is, I suppose.

  • YoungAmerican

    Desmond Bryant looked better in his limited time at DE than he did at DT. But he’s a good flex player/situational pass rusher.

    Depth at DE is a question mark, though. Outside of Shaughnessy and Houston, the Raiders just have Moss and Scott, with Seymour or Bryant theoretically being able to move over.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    YoungAmerican Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 11:50 am
    Desmond Bryant looked better in his limited time at DE than he did at DT. But he’s a good flex player/situational pass rusher.

    +++++++++++++

    I rather like the idea of having Bryant being a backup LDE rather than backup 3-tech.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Sammy, what city doesn’t have slums, poverty, and crime? Oh, besides Green Bay…

  • LA to TheBay

    Al didn’t leave LA because LA doesn’t fit his personality. Al left LA because Al simply wasn’t good enough for them, according to the warped world of showmanship in which he lives.

    —————————————-

    Yeah, al likes theatre, but not in the way LA has grown accustomed to.

    There is no media access with the Raiders and Al is not a likeable guy. There aren’t enough bullies and fans that identify with that image in LA to sustain the city’s/area’s attention unless they’re 13-3 every year.

    LA won’t stick with you through good times and bad, IMO. They want a winner and they want it to be flashy. Al’s flashy in his own sort of way, but I agree in that he’s a big fish in a small pond in Oakland, whereas in LA, they look at him sideways because he doesn’t play their game.

    Good assesment though. The following statement I agree with completely:

    “Al’s problem in LA was not that he wasn’t LA, it’s just that he wasn’t as good at showing off as people in LA are. In Oakland, Al was the man. It’s not a celebrity laden town. So Al had a small pond to compete with. In LA, he had an entire city of big shots out there who were basically out-Al Davising Al Davis, if you will.”

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    SammyTheBull Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 11:45 am
    # r8dercain Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am

    BTW there is only one nation, The Raider Nation
    always Wil be that way. Been to Heinz field an from what I saw of the area didn’t look nowhere near what east Oakland looks like
    —————–
    So slums, poverty, and crime is appealing to you?
    —————–
    just making a point of the argument of the steelers being the blue collar team in a blue collar town as opposed to the blue collar community of Oakland an lts image
    personally I was glad to get out of the town. I now reside in beutifil oakley,ca on an acre of land. An I own a small pest control co. Keep Em Away pest eliminiation. Of which I employ uber privelige youths from Oakland “the town”.
    No Oakland is not pretty bit it’s my home town

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    And why does a city have to be appealing for a sports franchise to move there? When was Oakland ever appealing? What was so appealing about Buffalo when they won 4 straight AFC titles? Buffalo has been described as the most miserable place on earth by several former and current residents. It snows, it’s just populated enough to where you have a bunch of rude jerks you’d get in the city, and there’s nothing to do. It’s Sacramento with a ton of snow. LOL.

  • raidergo

    Looks like atdhe has been shut down. Going to need to find a new place to watch the games

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    Some of you guys are pretty hokey with the “Raiders should stay in Oakland because it’s a tough town” stuff.
    This isn’t 5th grade.
    Football is big business, and of the 32 teams no team runs their business worse than the Raiders.
    Just a simple fact. A fact that continues to bite the team in the ass.

    Broken record alert!!-No city will have a single thing to do with the Raiders as long as Al Davis is alive.
    He screwed over Oakland. Total bust in LA. Screwed over Irwindale. Then screwed over Oakland, especially the county of Alameda, upon returning.

    Zero cities want to deal with Al Davis. None. Nada.

    Doomed to mediocrity until Father Time catches up.

  • RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…)

    LA To TheBay Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Al didn’t leave LA because LA doesn’t fit his personality. Al left LA because Al simply wasn’t good enough for them, according to the warped world of showmanship in which he lives.

    —————————————-

    Yeah, al likes theatre, but not in the way LA has grown accustomed to.

    There is no media access with the Raiders and Al is not a likeable guy. There aren’t enough bullies and fans that identify with that image in LA to sustain the city’s/area’s attention unless they’re 13-3 every year.

    LA won’t stick with you through good times and bad, IMO. They want a winner and they want it to be flashy. Al’s flashy in his own sort of way, but I agree in that he’s a big fish in a small pond in Oakland, whereas in LA, they look at him sideways because he doesn’t play their game.

    Good assesment though. The following statement I agree with completely:

    “Al’s problem in LA was not that he wasn’t LA, it’s just that he wasn’t as good at showing off as people in LA are. In Oakland, Al was the man. It’s not a celebrity laden town. So Al had a small pond to compete with. In LA, he had an entire city of big shots out there who were basically out-Al Davising Al Davis, if you will.”

    **********************************

    Nation, I have a solution…

    The Memphis Raiders.

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Sorry for the mispelling
    iPhone’s

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    LAtotheBay, Al went to LA for the same reason anyone else does, and he got chewed up and spit out like so many of them do. I’m sorry. But those who are “above” LA, simply want nothing to do with that town outside of the occasional Disneyland trip.

  • YoungAmerican

    2) DT/NT Phil Taylor (Baylor)
    3) OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin)
    4) OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida)
    5) C/OG Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU)
    6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
    7) RB Robert Hughes (Notre Dame)

    Then try like hell to bring Miller, Asomugha, Seymour, Wimbley, Huff, Routt, Reece, Condo and Cartwright all back into the fold.

    If Huff walks, sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.

    If Asomugha walks, sign Jonathan Joseph.

    If Routt walks, sign Richard Marshall.

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    # r8dercain Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 11:55 am

    SammyTheBull Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 11:45 am
    # r8dercain Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am

    BTW there is only one nation, The Raider Nation
    always Wil be that way. Been to Heinz field an from what I saw of the area didn’t look nowhere near what east Oakland looks like
    —————–
    So slums, poverty, and crime is appealing to you?
    —————–
    just making a point of the argument of the steelers being the blue collar team in a blue collar town as opposed to the blue collar community of Oakland an lts image
    personally I was glad to get out of the town. I now reside in beutifil oakley,ca on an acre of land. An I own a small pest control co. Keep Em Away pest eliminiation. Of which I employ uber privelige youths from Oakland “the town”.
    No Oakland is not pretty bit it’s my home town
    ===============
    Ya, I know what ya mean. But Oakland isn’t even a blue collar town, as in there’s no industry there. Even the docks aren’t in Oakland, as much as Alameda, I believe.

    Oakley’s nice. Launched from the area many times.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    There’s not much gray area with Los Angeles. You’re either on their nuts, or you’re only there when you have to be there, business, family Disneyland trip, etc. Al made the decision to move there, and stayed for years, even when people weren’t showing up to games. So don’t tell me it’s business, either. I mean, after the first couple of years, he was already having trouble selling out the coliseum. If his LA adventure were a business one, he’d have been gone by 1990. And, the talks of the Raiders moving back to Oakland started way before that. And they started for a reason…everyone with a brain knew even at that point that LA was not working out for the Raiders. Al didn’t want to give up. Al’s on LA’s nuts. Goes back to his Charger days. His connections to USC. He always wanted to make his mark in tinseltown.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    And when you consider the timing of Al first moving the Raiders to LA, you have to wonder if that was his plan all along, when he took the team from Valley.

  • http://chismetime.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sofia_vergara_01.jpg r8eray

    KCAL 9 Los Angeles is reporting potential teams that might move to L.A. Farmer’s Field.

    Oakland
    San Diego
    Minnesota
    Jacksonville

    Super Bowl projected 2016!!

  • http://www.alaska.com SammyTheBull

    Al went to LA because he believed in the hype of millions of Raider fans, all clamoring to support the Silver and Black. He bluffed. Alameda called his bluff. Went south, thinking the Nation would fill the coliseum.

    Found out the hard way that his fan base was in NorCal.

    Leaving rubbed a lot of longtime diehards wrong.

    Hungry for football, any football, many went to Niner games just to watch football.
    And the rest is history.
    Many never came back.

    And when Al did, he proceeded to screw over everyone.

    and has been downhill ever since.

    Al stupidly believed he could screw over even his fans, and that they’re were enough to still fill the HOT.

    We know how that turned out

  • RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…)

    Aaron Rodgers’ trip to the Super Bowl has to be a harsh reminder of a mistake made by many of the 23 teams that bypassed Rodgers in the 2005 draft. The Cal product was taken by Green Bay with the No. 24 overall pick. He has become an elite-level player.

    Oakland, No. 23: This is where it hurts. The Raiders moved up to No. 23. They earlier traded the No. 7 pick to Minnesota in the Randy Moss trade. It appeared that Oakland would end Rodgers’ fall and keep him in the East Bay. Instead, Oakland took cornerback Fabian Washington. Instead of a taking a franchise quarterback-in-waiting, the Raiders — who were entering the second season of an uninspiring two-season Kerry Collins era — took the speedy Washington out of Nebraska. Washington was traded to Baltimore for a fourth-round draft pick after three seasons. While Oakland didn’t whiff on Rodgers as badly as San Francisco, you have to wonder where this franchise would be now had the Raiders addressed a need and pleased the home folks by taking Rodgers instead taking Washington.

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    Sammy,

    Oakland used to be known as a blue collar town back in the 70′s
    not so much as industrial but people wise
    my grandpa worked at naval air station an grandma at Owens-illinois glass co.
    If your old enough to remeber those days

  • LA to TheBay

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    There’s not much gray area with Los Angeles. You’re either on their nuts, or you’re only there when you have to be there, business, family Disneyland trip, etc. Al made the decision to move there, and stayed for years, even when people weren’t showing up to games. So don’t tell me it’s business, either. I mean, after the first couple of years, he was already having trouble selling out the coliseum. If his LA adventure were a business one, he’d have been gone by 1990. And, the talks of the Raiders moving back to Oakland started way before that. And they started for a reason…everyone with a brain knew even at that point that LA was not working out for the Raiders. Al didn’t want to give up. Al’s on LA’s nuts. Goes back to his Charger days. His connections to USC. He always wanted to make his mark in tinseltown.

    —————————

    I believe it was Howie Long that said Al felt the Raiders market themselves, but in Hollywood (and I refer to the LA sports market in that manner, because to succeed, you have to “be Hollywood,” not neccecarily referring to location geographically), you have to market.

    And you have to win. If you’re npot allowing media access and you’re constantly tied up in legal matters, for the team to sell itself, they have to be good.

    LA embraced the Raiders as a winner, and as soon as they became even mediocre, the fanfare was gone. In a venue like the coliseum, you have to go big or (as he did) go home.

    The Clippers are the only LA business model that succeeds without winning, essentially because they’re not in the business of winning to make money, they’re in the business of profit with low overhead.

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    R8eray Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    KCAL 9 Los Angeles is reporting potential teams that might move to L.A. Farmer’s Field.

    Oakland
    San Diego
    Minnesota
    Jacksonville

    Super Bowl projected 2016!!
    ————–
    in reality oaklands in the picture but not really that just so the Oakland city council takes notice an starts talk of a new stadium here
    bargaining chips,nothing more

  • LA to TheBay

    But I still contend that the Raiders at least SHOULD reflect the identity of Oakland rather than LA.

    The core of LA is hard to pinpoint, because its so big and spread out. Is it Hollwood? Is it the Beach Boys’ fun in the sun, care free dream of LA? Is it the violence of South Central? The feeling of being in a different country like in E. LA? Is it the Valley, which is the biggest non-city to ever exist?

    To the outsider, most would say Hollywood. To someone who sees the underbelly of the city, they would say South Central. The middle class would say the Valley.

    The Raiders will always be the LA Raiders in some fashion to me, but I think the Raiders belong in Oakland. I think Oakland needs the Raiders and needs them to be good.

    LA doesn’t need the Raiders.

  • YoungAmerican

    Bresnahan as DC?

  • http://Www.bullycains.com r8dercain

    SammyTheBull Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    Al went to LA because he believed in the hype of millions of Raider fans, all clamoring to support the Silver and Black. He bluffed. Alameda called his bluff. Went south, thinking the Nation would fill the coliseum.

    Found out the hard way that his fan base was in NorCal.

    Leaving rubbed a lot of longtime diehards wrong.

    Hungry for football, any football, many went to Niner games just to watch football.
    And the rest is history.
    Many never came back.

    And when Al did, he proceeded to screw over everyone.

    and has been downhill ever since.

    Al stupidly believed he could screw over even his fans, and that they’re were enough to still fill the HOT.

    We know how that turned out
    ——————-
    yep that sums it up rite there. You said it
    I saw it. Damn if that ain’t the truth

  • YoungAmerican

    Looks like Chuck is back running the defense…

  • http://chismetime.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sofia_vergara_01.jpg r8eray

    Need to see video….

    Raiders in SB “L”(50)!!!!????
    Farmer’s Field?
    Los Angeles Raiders?

    It’s all making sense, now!

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/sports/L_A__to_Host_Super_Bowl_in_2016__Los_Angeles.html

  • http://chismetime.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sofia_vergara_01.jpg r8eray

    LA To TheBay Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    But I still contend that the Raiders at least SHOULD reflect the identity of Oakland rather than LA.

    The core of LA is hard to pinpoint, because its so big and spread out. Is it Hollwood? Is it the Beach Boys’ fun in the sun, care free dream of LA? Is it the violence of South Central? The feeling of being in a different country like in E. LA? Is it the Valley, which is the biggest non-city to ever exist?

    To the outsider, most would say Hollywood. To someone who sees the underbelly of the city, they would say South Central. The middle class would say the Valley.

    The Raiders will always be the LA Raiders in some fashion to me, but I think the Raiders belong in Oakland. I think Oakland needs the Raiders and needs them to be good.

    LA doesn’t need the Raiders.

    —————————

    That’s RIGHT!!!!!

    The Raiders need L.A.!

  • 01rdrfan

    What the heck is defensive coach???? Does that mean DC????

  • YoungAmerican

    That’s what I’m trying to figure out…

  • Toyz

    362.raidergo Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 11:56 am
    Looks like atdhe has been shut down. Going to need to find a new place to watch the games

    ————————————————————

    That suxs I love plugin it into my big screen and watching it when I couldnt go to the games

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