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NFL-NFLPA statement

The following statement was released jointly by the National Football League and the National Football League Players Association on negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement:

NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith and Commissioner Roger Goodell met today in New York to discuss a range of issues related to a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. As part of a process to intensify negotiations, they agreed to hold a formal bargaining session with both negotiating teams on Saturday in the Dallas area. They also agreed to a series of meetings over the next few weeks, both formal bargaining sessions and smaller group meetings, in an effort to reach a new agreement by early March.

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  • priesttj

    Try this on for size, say Gruden really attacks the Pats and we beat them and go on to win the SB we might have won back to back SB’s with that team. Gruden would’ve been even more revered than he is now and he might have gotten a lot more of what he wanted. $$$ and sense.

  • Musaeus

    realmaddenraider said “I mean, everything Bill Walsh knew he learned from Al Davis.”

    Overstated. As an ASSISTANT he learned some things in Oakland, sure, but not horizontal passing, which is what Walsh honed at Cincinnati to tear up defenses. Walsh = horizontal; Gillman/Davis = vertical.

    I’m still a fan of Al Davis.

  • confucius400

    The father of Lions quarterback Shaun Hill died Saturday afternoon after reportedly falling off the roof of Hill’s home in Lake of the Ozarks, Mo.

    The Detroit Free Press reported that Ted Hill, 60, was helping Shaun work on his barn when he accidentally fell.

    “I talked to Shaun, I texted Shaun (Saturday) night,” Don Barcus, who was a football coach with Ted Hill at Parsons High in Kansas, told the Free Press. “Shaun texted me back and said my dad is the greatest person in the world. They had a very close relationship — he did with both his sons.”

  • priesttj

    Very very very sad I can’t imagine how that guy must feel.

  • Al Davis Supreme

    201.priesttj Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 10:18 pm
    Try this on for size, say Gruden really attacks the Pats and we beat them and go on to win the SB we might have won back to back SB’s with that team. Gruden would’ve been even more revered than he is now and he might have gotten a lot more of what he wanted. $$$ and sense.
    ——————————————–
    There was snow all over the ground there. Hard to really attack when its cold and covered with snow. And snowing. I blame that game on adam vinatieri.

  • priesttj

    IMO the snow is an excuse the Pats attacked us just fine anyway they won we lost it is what it is. But we were the better team …….period

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ng4yHw2xk&feature=PlayList&p=E565EF0DE2F587FA&playnext= Raider75

    # Sweep The Leg. Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    # Raider75 Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Couple busted in my hometown with 30 pounds of crack cocaine in their car.

    30 freakin’ pounds!
    ====================================================

    So you either live in Stockton or Clearlake?
    ….

    lol… Longview, TX – Redneck town of about 80,000.

  • Al Davis Supreme

    We were the better team and the whole country knew it. even tom tucking brady. The game was a fluke win job by the pats, the tuck rule had to be dusted off or made up, take your choice, and what else hurts, we were stuck on the runway in bean town for five freakin hours cause of the snow, so that was a bad snow day.
    Raidahs got jobbed by the snow, the refs, av, but the sports world knew the Raidahs was hosed.

  • Al Davis Supreme

    another thing that grabs my craw is when big bird sara goose slams little richie to the ground and takes him outta the game, and the refs do nothin about it. they probably bought him a double big mac for doin there work, and the ravens win that game. goose shoulda been ejected.

  • confucius400

    We need more Al Davis press conferences in our lives

  • SilverSurfer

    realmaddenraider said “I mean, everything Bill Walsh knew he learned from Al Davis.”
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Dumb.
    Walsh was with Raiders for one year. One. As a RB asst.

    Are you a moron, realmaden? Only a moron would make that comment.

  • SilverSurfer

    the tuck rule had to be dusted off or made up,
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Actually, was called earlier the same year, and many times since.

  • priesttj

    He was being sarcastic ridiculing someone else with that statement anyone who knows MR knows he wouldn’t give Big Al that kind of credit.

  • armond

    does kk know that the “new” 96 ravens are the “old” cleveland browns that moved and changed their name and uniforms? u would have to go a lot further than 1996 to look for winning seasons in the last 20 years.

  • armond

    priest, what u think of kaepernick and how early would u take him?. hankerson was a beast out there. jarvis jenkins has intrigued me and sherman of stanford is the kind of athletic physical cb i would like for us to get. this draft has got some good players.

  • priesttj

    Whassup Armond? I’m very high on Kaepernick I would take him at #48 I think he sits 2 years and we have a special player. he just has tremendous athleticism and a very strong arm, great leader and competitor and a winner. I think he just needs to sit and see the progame for a year or so and then you can unleash him. I really like this kid.

    Sherman is a more cover2 corner and Hankerson is a player to be sure but there are a ton of WR’s in this draft. I would make Sherman a safety in our system.

  • oo

    Wherever #20 goes this off-season i pray #81 right there with him.

  • MaddenRaiderisadouchebag

    Hey Priest…What do you think of the Raiders’ chances of heading back to LA?…Looks like Farmer’s Insurance has provided a boost.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I wonder if Hankerson is quick enough to get open consistantly at the next level? It seems his ceiling per the draft “gurus” is that of a very good #2 WR. Great hands and good size though.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Priest’s idea of moving Sherman to S is a pretty solid idea.

    Very, very physical (and I will guess smart since he went to Stanford) and great size for a Safety. I wouldn’t think he would go in the first 3 rounds, and could represent great value in later rounds.

    I am worried Huff will walk, and I don’t think MM34 will ever be an everydown safety in this league (or at least not a good one).

  • Just Fire Baby

    As far as QB’s, I think Kapernick improved himself from a 4th round or later pick, into the top 50 of the draft with his Senior Bowl week.

    Yes he has some development issues to iron out, but than almost every other QB has some of this as well, and they are not as talented as Colin.

    It seems the big issue, I have heard this for a few years now, on these spread-option QB’s is the footwork. And the issue with the footwork effects the sideline, outside the hash mark throws that are so important on 3rd downs.

    Was, hopefully still is, a huge issue with Tebow. Throws darts with perfect volacity and accuracy BETWEEN the hashmarks, than wobbles horribly inaccurate throws outside of them.

    I think it all comes back to footwork, and it takes at least one year if not more to correct it. Goes for Tebow, VY, Cam Newton, Colin, Andy Dalton and plenty of other QB prospects that worked almost exclusively out of the shotgun.

  • bcz24

    oo Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 12:16 am
    Wherever #20 goes this off-season i pray #81 right there with him.
    *******
    What? You want Schilens to hang out with DMAC?

  • SilverNBlackPA

    As far as QB’s, I think Kapernick improved himself from a 4th round or later pick, into the top 50 of the draft with his Senior Bowl week.

    Yes he has some development issues to iron out, but than almost every other QB has some of this as well, and they are not as talented as Colin.

    It seems the big issue, I have heard this for a few years now, on these spread-option QB’s is the footwork. And the issue with the footwork effects the sideline, outside the hash mark throws that are so important on 3rd downs.

    Was, hopefully still is, a huge issue with Tebow. Throws darts with perfect volacity and accuracy BETWEEN the hashmarks, than wobbles horribly inaccurate throws outside of them.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yep. I had Kaepernick pegged as a third rounder, but now I’d say he’s a 2nd rounder without question and may sneak into the late first if a team that has a QB coming to the end of the road, but not quite there yet, falls in love with him. Seattle comes to mind.

    The thing with spread QBs I find is that, besides the footwork as you mention, their systems are generally “one or two reads and then take off running.” It’s all about the system, so having to read defenses, identify blitzes, change protections and audible plays don’t really factor into what they do.

    The interesting thing I see about Tebow is that he can complete short passes no problem and has a shockingly good deep ball, but his intermediate accuracy is a complete mess. Of course, those are the bread and butter throws of an NFL quarterback. If he can get that corrected, he can succeed.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I watched a lot of Tebow’s games this year, and watch almost all of his last game.

    He throws the absolute worst sideline throws you will ever see. Like two yards out of bounds and 5 feet over the guys head.

    But working with his slot WR and TE in the middle of the field, he looks every bit the first round pick.

    Heard the same things about Colin this week in those practice notes blogs. Great down the middle of the field, and not ready for the big boys on the sideline outs.

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation!

  • SilverNBlackPA

    I am worried Huff will walk, and I don’t think MM34 will ever be an everydown safety in this league (or at least not a good one
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Man, I hope Huff stays. Single high safety is a tough position to play; not sure there’s any potential free agent out there who could do it better. He’s really grown into the position the last two years.

    I think this upcoming season will let us know if Mitchell is an every down strong safety (people who want him to move to FS are insane) or just a specialist.

  • Just Fire Baby

    SnB PA,

    Seattle is a prime candidate to draft a QB, and you have to think they will consider Locker not only for his talent but he also has the local ties and all.

    You are right on the reads stuff, but I don’t think it is just for the spread offense QB’s. For instance, I think that perfectly describes Mallett, he has his one or two reads and he is throwing it there, come hell or high water.

    Kind of a college football thing these days. Defenses are so creative, that they don’t want QB’s getting cute and attempting to read defenses.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    For instance, I think that perfectly describes Mallett, he has his one or two reads and he is throwing it there, come hell or high water

    +++++++++++++

    Yup. And in college, he has the arm strength to just force it in there and beat the slower defensive backs. Not gonna fly in the NFL.

    Say, that description reminds me of someone….

  • Just Fire Baby

    Gotta run…..later Nation.

    (Top of the morning Hwnrdr!!!)

  • bcz24

    I think this upcoming season will let us know if Mitchell is an every down strong safety (people who want him to move to FS are insane) or just a specialist.
    *********
    If Huffy leaves they will move Branch to FS and Mitchell will play SS… at least until that fails.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    Just watched http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1640680/ again…

    I can strongly recommend it

  • Davy Jones

    *sigh* Okay, kids. I know that Bill Walsh didn’t spend much time in the Raiders Organization, but that has nothing to do with why people say Bill Walsh learned everything he knew about football from Al Davis. People say that because Bill Walsh said “Everything I know about football I learned from Al Davis.” And here’s the link to prove it, which I’m posting for the second time in this thread, BTW.

    http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090816/NEWS/908169975/1057/SPORTS0908?p=4&tc=pg

  • Macho Man Randy Savage

    Whoever thinks that drafting Jano in the 1st round was a smart move please revert to the final minute of last season’s Arizona game.

    You can draft a kicker that booms touchbacks in the 5th round. A 1st rounder would be a clutch kicker that is automatic from 40 yards in. Joe Nedney is a better FG kicker than Jano. Jano is better at kickoffs, woooho!

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 7:44 am

    Whoever thinks that drafting Jano in the 1st round was a smart move please revert to the final minute of last season’s Arizona game.

    You can draft a kicker that booms touchbacks in the 5th round. A 1st rounder would be a clutch kicker that is automatic from 40 yards in. Joe Nedney is a better FG kicker than Jano. Jano is better at kickoffs, woooho!
    ______________________________________________________

    I’ve been saying this for more than 8 years!

    Al sucks at drafting in the 1st round..

    how many great 1st round picks have we had, lets just say since we moved to oakland??

    seems to me that most of our GREATS al are from 3rd, 4th and 5th round

  • http://chismetime.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sofia_vergara_01.jpg r8eray

    Good Morning Peeps!

  • Davy Jones

    ^ Which is what Mel Kiper means when he says that the Raiders (read: Al Davis) have an eye for talent, but don’t get maximum value out of their position in the draft.

    At least good young players are coming into the organization somehow. Once they get to the NFL, on-field production trumps where they were drafted. Still, you can’t help but look at most of the first round picks since the move to Oakland as wasted opportunities by Al.

    On the other hand, the McFadden pick looks good, Asomugha pick looks great, and the Huff pick is starting to look better.

  • http://chismetime.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sofia_vergara_01.jpg r8eray

    “Slim” chance Jared Gaither re-signs with Ravens!!
    Al, GO GET HIM!!

  • ohioraider

    Gotta LOVE this line or reasoning: any season short of a Super Bowl is “meaningless” and, therefore, consistent playoff appearances over a 20 year span don’t add up to one losing Super Bowl appearance. Priceless.

    Even Al would choke on his strained prunes over that one. All this losing = poor attendance = less money into the coffers for talent.

  • RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…)

    SilverNBlackPA Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 6:02 am
    As far as QB’s, I think Kapernick improved himself from a 4th round or later pick, into the top 50 of the draft with his Senior Bowl week.

    Yes he has some development issues to iron out, but than almost every other QB has some of this as well, and they are not as talented as Colin.

    It seems the big issue, I have heard this for a few years now, on these spread-option QB’s is the footwork. And the issue with the footwork effects the sideline, outside the hash mark throws that are so important on 3rd downs.

    Was, hopefully still is, a huge issue with Tebow. Throws darts with perfect volacity and accuracy BETWEEN the hashmarks, than wobbles horribly inaccurate throws outside of them.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Yep. I had Kaepernick pegged as a third rounder, but now I’d say he’s a 2nd rounder without question and may sneak into the late first if a team that has a QB coming to the end of the road, but not quite there yet, falls in love with him. Seattle comes to mind.

    The thing with spread QBs I find is that, besides the footwork as you mention, their systems are generally “one or two reads and then take off running.” It’s all about the system, so having to read defenses, identify blitzes, change protections and audible plays don’t really factor into what they do.

    The interesting thing I see about Tebow is that he can complete short passes no problem and has a shockingly good deep ball, but his intermediate accuracy is a complete mess. Of course, those are the bread and butter throws of an NFL quarterback. If he can get that corrected, he can succeed.

    ***********************************

    I hope he doesn’t go that early. I still am hoping we pick him up with our 3rd rounder.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Hey all you Jared Gaither fanatics. From PFT:

    “The one thing that the Ravens would need to know from Jared Gaither is something that he can’t possible tell them when they sit down to talk on Wednesday.

    The Ravens need to know if they can count on Gaither to both practice and play in games for them during the 2011 season if they are going to re-sign him. That’s impossible to know in February when Gaither is coming off a year lost to a foot injury that may have resulted from his showing up at camp in poor shape as a result of back problems and unhappiness with the lack of a contract extension.

    The injury problems are bad enough, but the questions about his work ethic raised by last summer’s issues have made it hard for the Ravens to put a full level of trust into Gaither. That explains why a Ravens official told Jamison Hensley of the Baltimore Sun that the chances of Gaither returning for another season were “slim.”

    If Gaither does leave, the Ravens will have a big hole on the offensive line. Michael Oher was less effective as a left tackle this season than he was as a rookie on the right side, although that move was planned before Gaither’s injury. Marshal Yanda took over on the right and did okay while simultaneously making it clear he was a better fit at guard. The struggles of the offensive line were fingered as a big reason for Baltimore’s offensive slowdown down the stretch of the regular season, which means the team needs to be sure about the direction they take heading into next year.”

  • SilverNBlackPA

    My considered opinion on Gaither:

    No doubt the dude is a monstrous run blocker and one of the better pass blockers you’ll find for a guy that friggin’ enormous.

    BUT…he’s 6’9″, 340 pounds and has foot and back problems. Those problems, once they crop up, are hard to shake for a guy that big. Also, there have always been questions about his attitude and motivation.

    I’ll say this: Hue Jackson knows him well. If Gaither is let go from Baltimore and the Raiders don’t try to sign him, that’ll tell you all you need to know.

    Personally, I’d like to see a two year, incentive laden deal. I figure that’s a low-risk, potentially high-reward move.

  • http://www.hotmail.com The Dirtee Raccoon

    238.r8eray Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 8:14 am
    “Slim” chance Jared Gaither re-signs with Ravens!!
    Al, GO GET HIM!!

    **************************

    JG injured more often than R. Gallery, and he doesnt work as hard.

  • http://chismetime.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sofia_vergara_01.jpg r8eray

    1. Blaine Gabbert*, Missouri

    2. Cam Newton*, Auburn

    3. Jake Locker, Washington

    4. Colin Kaepernick, Nevada

    5. Ryan Mallett*, Arkansas

    6. Christian Ponder, QB Florida State

    7. Pat Devlin, Delaware

    8. Kellen Moore*, Boise State

    9. Ricky Stanzi, Iowa

    10. Jerrod Johnson, Texas A&M

    * Underclassmen

    This is according to About.com

    If any of these QB’s were there in the 2nd for the taking who would you take?
    Open to opinions!

  • SilverNBlackPA

    R8eray,

    Newton and Gabbert will both be long gone by then. Possibly Mallett, depending on how he performs at the Combine and in interviews, since there are concerns about his intelligence and attitude.

    Frankly, I don’t think I’d take any of the others in the 2nd except *maybe* Jake Locker and Colin Kaepernick and even then I don’t know. Would much rather see either offensive or defensive line help come in the 2nd.

    Ponder or Devlin in the 3rd wouldn’t cause me to complain. Pass on everyone else. Don’t even think Kellen Moore is coming out this year.

  • RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…)

    R8eray Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 8:25 am
    1. Blaine Gabbert*, Missouri

    2. Cam Newton*, Auburn

    3. Jake Locker, Washington

    4. Colin Kaepernick, Nevada

    5. Ryan Mallett*, Arkansas

    6. Christian Ponder, QB Florida State

    7. Pat Devlin, Delaware

    8. Kellen Moore*, Boise State

    9. Ricky Stanzi, Iowa

    10. Jerrod Johnson, Texas A&M

    * Underclassmen

    This is according to About.com

    If any of these QB’s were there in the 2nd for the taking who would you take?
    Open to opinions!

    *******************************

    I thought Gabbert opted to stay in college another year. Regardless, I’d take none of them in the 2nd round. I’d take any of the 1-4 in the 3rd, 5-8 in the 4th, 10 in the 6th.

  • SilverNBlackPA

    Since draft talk is starting up again, I’ll repost my ideal Raiders mock draft:

    2nd round: Jurrell Casey, DT, USC. 6′1″, 305 pounds. Squatty, strong run stuffer with some ability to get after the QB.

    3rd round: John Moffitt, G, Wisconsin 6′4″, 314 pounds.
    Big, powerful road grader type. Once he latches on, it’s game over.

    4th round: Marcus Gilbert, OT, Florida 6′6″, 329 pounds. Ideal right tackle of the future; spent most of his college career there, so learning a new position would not be a problem like it is for many college left tackles who get switched to the right side in the NFL.

    5th round: Pierre Allen, DE, Nebraska 6′4″, 273 pounds. Does everything good, but nothing brilliantly. Think a Jay Richardson type. Effective at sealing the edge against the run. Nice backup for Houston and can fill in for Shaughnessy in a pinch.

    6th round: Tori Gurley, WR, South Carolina 6′5″, 230 pounds. Amazing physical speciman, big target, ideal possession receiver. Hands of glue. He did not have a drop the entire season.

    7th round: Greg McElroy, QB, Alabama 6′2″, 222 pounds. Just injured his throwing hand during the Senior Bowl and will miss the Combine, so will probably fall. Accuracy, leadership and football smarts are all excellent. Arm is not a cannon, but I think it’s underrated. Can be prone to questionable decisions. A bit undersized for a QB.

  • RedneckRaider (The Real MaddenRaider-Hater; seriously, I hate that guy…)

    Also, might take Devlin the 3rd.

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/skew-t/166654980/ BART Bridge Blues

    I would not take any of those guys in the 2nd or even 3rd. A very, very poor QB class this year and we have needs all over both lines that could be instantly filled with a starter in the 2nd round.

    If Al is not interested in bringing back Bruce and Boller, then I could see them rolling the dice on a QB towards the end of the draft in Taylor Potts, TJ Yates, Scott Tolzien or Mike Hartline.

  • Davy Jones

    All this Jared Gaither talk. In case you’ve forgotten, our LT made the all rookie team, how about seeing if he improves a little bit in his second year? I think other spots on the O line and the team need more attention.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    # r8eray Says:
    February 1st, 2011 at 8:14 am

    “Slim” chance Jared Gaither re-signs with Ravens!!
    Al, GO GET HIM!!
    ________________________________________________________

    He’s injured all the time, Schilens would be called stable compared to Gaither… if ou could get him for small money, then okay, but we know we cant..

    Al I say please dont go after him!