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Raiders confirm Wylie hire

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, January 31st, 2011 at 12:34 pm in Oakland Raiders.

The Raiders announced the hiring of Bob Wylie as their offensive line coach Monday.

“Bob is a spectacular teacher, motivator and drill sargeant,” coach Hue Jackson said in a statement. “His vast knowlwedge and experience, including last year iwth a team in our division, will really helup us as we move forward in assembling a good offensive line.”

Wylie runs an annual offensive clinic which features blocking seminars and instruction from many NFL coaches, which last year included the Saints’ Aaron Kromer, the Colts’ Howard Mudd and the Jets’ Bill Callahan.

He coached three years in the Canadian Football League before joining the Denver last year as the Broncos switched from zone blocking gap and power blocking system, a transition the Raiders appear to be undergoing after the departure of head coach Tom Cable, line coach Jim Michalczik and line assistant Chris Morgan.

Where that leaves current Raiders linemen remains to be seen. Right guard Cooper Carlisle in particular has been a zone blocking specialist, playing in the system with both Denver and Oakland. Bruce Campbell, should he remain at right guard, is expected to get a long look whenever the team convenes after players and owners come to a collective bargaining agreement.

Left guard Robert Gallery, scheduled for unrestricted free agency in the event of a CBA, saw his play improve when he was moved from tackle to guard in Cable’s zone system.

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  • bcz24

    Not sure were you get your stats from, but payton had the lowest yrds per completion.
    ***********
    I quote “This season, the Raiders didn’t live up to the tradition of their deep ball aerial game. Campbell’s completions traveled just 5.76 yards in the air each, making the Raiders’ first non-losing season in several years very much like their last AFC championship run with Rick Gannon under center.”

    5.76 yards per catch without YAC

  • bcz24
  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    402.

    Just because a player makes a probowl desnt mean that the team is any good. Samuals is a decent player, but is often injured, also the rest of the line was crap.

    Portis couldnt stay healthy, and is a locker room cancer, & notorious under achiever.

    Moss is clearly not the player he was in ny, and out side of moss, the foreskins have had a terrible wr group. Even worse than the group we have fielded.

    Cooly is good player, but you could argue that jc made him into a probowler by finding him in the passing game. This also points to the fact that jc didnt have many pass catching threats. when cooly and moss are your biggest weapons you dont have much.

    Some of these guys made the probowl as alternates, so they were not elite level players at all. Also this team has been in disarray since gibbs left. Stop trying to make the forskins out to be a good team. they sucked, end of story.

  • HayesDaze37

    repost

    HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    Another QB to push JCampbell for the starter’s job??

    One of the great things about an Al Davis presser is that, get this…he actually speaks to the point, and he’s done that a few times regarding JC.

    Anyone who thinks the Old Man wants to rattle JC’s bones by bringing in a “big name” (regardless of stats, a la Carson Palmer)…hasn’t been paying too much attention. If the Raiders reach out for a name bigger than Bruce Gradkowski, JC will be under the gun all over again (but worse).

    JC is the undisputed man at QB for the Raiders…and his replacement, when the time comes, needs to be a younger guy who is brought along until he takes over by sheer force of play. If he’s not that young guy…the JC experiment will be an utter failure. And other close-but-no-cigar QB’s will continue to lead us to mediocrity until we hit the jackpot.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Most yards after catch per completed pass jc is number1.

    This means he had to get rid of the ball fast ( teribble pass protection) dispelling the myth that he holds the ball and cant read defense.

    This means not a lot was open down the field 9 sub par wr play.

    This also means he often made the right read and hit guys in spots where they could do something after the catch. This is a good thing, not a knock against him

  • 30 year raider

    407.30 year raider Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    alot of new guys on here i see… some oldies too, what up Debo!!! where u at rockstar??

  • 30 year raider

    been reading some previous posts… i gotta say HELL NO to vince “im gonna killmyself” young!! hell no!!!

  • McRaider5150

    McRaider5150 Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    bcz24 Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    Not sure were you get your stats from, but payton had the lowest yrds per completion.
    ***********
    I quote “This season, the Raiders didn’t live up to the tradition of their deep ball aerial game. Campbell’s completions traveled just 5.76 yards in the air each, making the Raiders’ first non-losing season in several years very much like their last AFC championship run with Rick Gannon under center.”

    5.76 yards per catch without YAC

    ——————————-
    And were her is this coming from???

    Can I get Manning or some other QB’s yards per catch without yac???

    Who are the WR??

  • 30 year raider

    someone earlier mentioned kevin kolb??? i would like to see if philly would be willing to entertain the idea of parting ways with kolb and at what price???

  • YoungAmerican

    If y’all thought Redskins fans hated JC, you should have heard what some Eagles fans I was talking to thought of Kolb.

    At any rate, Kolb’s arm isn’t big enough for Al. Not that Al is going to be bringing in another QB anyway…

  • HayesDaze37

    No, Mistic — It means he had talent catch that ball and run with it.

    JC held the ball too long…his now-HC even said as much. Your love of JC is glossing-over a lot of his faults, including the number-1: JC held the ball too long with regularity…causing routes to break down, and closing ball-delivery windows that are open for very short periods.

    Jason holds the ball too long. Period. Saying otherwise proves you fail the Eye Test.

    JC was a fundamental disaster last year, and has been a lot more work than anybody hoped, to play even AVERAGE QB. If he gets it this year…really gets it…the Offense will be great. If he can just be a little better this year, across the board, the Offense will be almost great (assuming the O-Line is at least as (reliable?) as it was last season.

    If he doesn’t get it…we better have that kid growing on the bench.

  • HayesDaze37

    Here’s a not-so-bold prediction:

    Unless we pull Peyton Manning or Tom Brady (haha), Al Davis never again invests more than $40Million for a QB.

  • http://www.hotmail.com The Dirtee Raccoon

    383.RaiderRockstar Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    Agreed with Lonetree.

    VY should be used in the same sentence as Leinart, Quinn, Russell & A. Smith

    ******************************

    Agreed.

  • alex7

    Mistic,

    does making the playoffs make them a good team? Because they did, without JC, twice, while JC was there.

    Hey, Hayes in #11 gets it! Glad to see there is hope here.

  • http://www.hotmail.com The Dirtee Raccoon

    We need to trade CC to Seattle for a low round pick 4th or 5th would be good. Prob not gonna happen. Maybe a 7th.

  • alex7

    And the reason some of us don’t want to bother talking about guards not playing up to their potential…

    The Packers, Bears, and Steelers O-lines all were among the worst in the NFL this year, and laughed at early in the year.

    A good QB trumps a bad O-line.

    Who we have at RG next year will matter 1/100th to who we have throwing the ball 25 times a game.

  • McRaider5150

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    No, Mistic — It means he had talent catch that ball and run with it.

    JC held the ball too long…his now-HC even said as much. Your love of JC is glossing-over a lot of his faults, including the number-1: JC held the ball too long with regularity…causing routes to break down, and closing ball-delivery windows that are open for very short periods.

    Jason holds the ball too long. Period. Saying otherwise proves you fail the Eye Test.

    JC was a fundamental disaster last year, and has been a lot more work than anybody hoped, to play even AVERAGE QB. If he gets it this year…really gets it…the Offense will be great. If he can just be a little better this year, across the board, the Offense will be almost great (assuming the O-Line is at least as (reliable?) as it was last season.

    If he doesn’t get it…we better have that kid growing on the bench.

    ——————–
    I am a JC supporter, but I agree with you 100%. At least you seem to be open to the possibility that Jason can improve.

    Jason has to improve, but he also needs a top notch WR that he can count on. We just don’t have that righ now

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    No, Mistic — It means he had talent catch that ball and run with it.
    ===================================================

    Hayes some one had to throw them the ball, and put it in a spot where they could do damage after the catch.

    You cant give all the credit to the pass catcher and at the same time disparage the qb. It takes both.

  • DeuceDeuce

    The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    We need to trade CC to Seattle for a low round pick 4th or 5th would be good. Prob not gonna happen. Maybe a 7th.

    —-

    lol….we would be very very lucky to not get hung up on let a lone a 4th round pick for him…

  • HayesDaze37

    I give JC credit where it’s due.

    He made a few AMAZING throws this year. Maybe a half-dozen or so. He made a few.

    He also made a lot of average throws. But…he made a TON of bad throws…and some of his best plays were actually made by the receivers who had to bail him (us) out.

    So…yes, I support Jason Campbell, as I will support all Raiders starting QB’s…but I cannot ignore what my very-well trained eyes tell me, or what the rest of the world already knows…

    The Raiders NEED top-flight play from a QB if they want to be an elite team. If JC can’t provide it, we’re in deeper than we were last year.

  • McRaider5150

    alex7 Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 1:11 pm
    And the reason some of us don’t want to bother talking about guards not playing up to their potential…

    The Packers, Bears, and Steelers O-lines all were among the worst in the NFL this year, and laughed at early in the year.

    A good QB trumps a bad O-line.

    Who we have at RG next year will matter 1/100th to who we have throwing the ball 25 times a game.

    ——————-
    A good oline makes a good QB Great.
    An bad oline makes a good QB Average
    A bad oline makes average QB Horrible

  • alex7

    McRaider,

    thank you for completely ignoring the fact that the Bears, Packers, and Steelers O-lines consistently were deemed throughout the season to be subpar.

    If your little saying makes you happy, have at it.

    Truth is, those three teams have quality QBs that mask what scouts and statistics alike show is a bad O-line.

  • oo

    We were throwing denver o-line around like rag-dolls,strange hire

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    greatness

  • HayesDaze37

    alex7 Says:

    McRaider,

    thank you for completely ignoring the fact that the Bears, Packers, and Steelers O-lines consistently were deemed throughout the season to be subpar.
    If your little saying makes you happy, have at it.
    Truth is, those three teams have quality QBs that mask what scouts and statistics alike show is a bad O-line.

    ——————–

    Alex — You been drinking out of MR’s Kool(Kell)-Aid pitcher??

    It looks like McRaider’s little saying indicated exactly what you were talking about. Just looking for a spat?

  • http://www.hotmail.com The Dirtee Raccoon

    19.DeuceDeuce Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 1:19 pm
    The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    We need to trade CC to Seattle for a low round pick 4th or 5th would be good. Prob not gonna happen. Maybe a 7th.

    —-

    lol….we would be very very lucky to not get hung up on let a lone a 4th round pick for him…

    **********************

    Ok true, a 7th?

  • http://www.hotmail.com The Dirtee Raccoon

    23.oo Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    We were throwing denver o-line around like rag-dolls,strange hire

    ****************************

    Yeah I am not too sure about it either. Maybe to teach Wiz how to coach?

  • 100PercentRaider

    Also, there’s a report that Raiders linebacker Rolando McClain purchased a firearm Thursday prior to the shots being fired at his car later that evening in Alabama.

    http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/report-rolando-mcclain-purchased-gun-prior-to-shooting/

    This is a little unsettling…Rolando seems more and more like a sketchy dude. refuses interviews, has alot of family issues, the lawsuit, and now this…al davis did admit that the raiders are awful at background checks…

  • alex7

    How many 1st round picks do the Colts, Patriots, and Steelers invest in O-linemen?

    Colts = 0 in the last 12 years.
    Steelers = 2 in last 12 years.
    Patriots = 2 in the last 12 years.

    Unless you argue that ALL of their low-round draft choices were diamonds in the rough, you can see that a top QB makes an average to below-average talent at O-line look great.

  • McRaider5150

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    alex7 Says:

    McRaider,

    thank you for completely ignoring the fact that the Bears, Packers, and Steelers O-lines consistently were deemed throughout the season to be subpar.
    If your little saying makes you happy, have at it.
    Truth is, those three teams have quality QBs that mask what scouts and statistics alike show is a bad O-line.

    ——————–

    Alex — You been drinking out of MR’s Kool(Kell)-Aid pitcher??

    It looks like McRaider’s little saying indicated exactly what you were talking about. Just looking for a spat?

    lol

    Thanks Hayes. Wasn’t sure what Alex’s beef was on that one. Maybe I forgot to say:

    An average line doesn’t really change when you have a good GB. Right now Rogers and Ben are not “Great” but they are very good with an average line.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Hayes,

    your so called eye ball test equals your opinion, and that is all. We disagree.

    Some one posted stats from an article, and that is what i took from them.

  • 100PercentRaider

    A good qb can make a an o-line look good, but a good o-line and recievers can make a qb look good as well. look at cassel. by all accounts he is not a very good qb, but he has done well when he has a running game, pro bowl linemen and pro bowl recievers.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Ahh, yes. The shills are out in force today, trying to convince us that Wylie Coyote is the second coming of Joe Bugel’s presence in Washington in the early ’80s. Here come the Oakland Hogs. Or, the second coming of….drumroll…TOM CABLE! “In Cable I Trust”. Remember that, Hayez?

  • alex7

    No Hayes, that saying states that a bad O-line declines the play of a QB, which the Bears, Packers, and Steelers proved this year proved all year is completely false.

    It’s kinda simple. Top QB = correct reads, quick release, pocket awareness = more defenders dropped back = O-Line doesn’t have to hold blocks as long

    Or, top QB = quickly beat a blitz = O-line looks great that play.

  • McRaider5150

    alex7 Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
    How many 1st round picks do the Colts, Patriots, and Steelers invest in O-linemen?

    Colts = 0 in the last 12 years.
    Steelers = 2 in last 12 years.
    Patriots = 2 in the last 12 years.

    Unless you argue that ALL of their low-round draft choices were diamonds in the rough, you can see that a top QB makes an average to below-average talent at O-line look great.
    —————————-
    That is a bit of a stretch don’t you think. Either you are blocking for the QB and not allowing sack, or you’re not.

    Manny, Brady, Rogers. don’t block do they?

    Ben on the other is hand, they get to him, but can’t bring him down.

  • HayesDaze37

    MR — What are you changing the subject for? To make it come around to you? Why not just jump into the convo…or do you just want a scrap??

  • alex7

    100percent

    By all accounts Cassel is not good? Are you sure (I am) you’re not focusing on the last two times you watched Cassel, and ignoring his body of work in NE and most of this season?

    How do you just throw away 27 TDs and 7 Int in an entire season of NFL football as “not good”?

    He had ONE pro-bowl lineman, not plural as you stated.

    So not sure where your argument is that the O-line gets the credit there. Same O-line there last year when they and Cassel stunk. He simply played much better this year, his 3rd as a starter.

  • McRaider5150

    Why are you putting the Bears in there. They were good, but the D is what got them where they ended up.

    And to say a bad QB doesn;t decline a QB’s play is plan stupid. It GB had a Good Oline, they would have lost about 2 games Roger would have been hurt and out for game and they would have been the number one seed. Damn!!!!!!

  • HayesDaze37

    I’m actually surprised you (MR) came back so quickly after you got slapped around so much by KK! That was HILARIOUS! Didn’t you think so?

  • alex7

    McRaider,

    a stretch??

    Three teams with future Hall of Fame QBs spent a measly FOUR 1st round picks in 36 combined years of drafting,

    and you think the O-line is what makes the QB, and not vice-versa?

    Amazing.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    You cant get to the conference championship with bad o-line play. The units struggled early and played really well going into the play offs.

    These arguments are really weak

  • alex7

    McRaider,

    I don’t even know where you were all year.

    Did you not repeatedly hear about how bad the Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and Chicago offensive lines were?

    Did you miss Chicago giving up 10 sacks to the NYG?
    Did you miss Green Bay having no running game all year?
    Did you miss most Steeler fans lamenting their horrible O-line?

    Yet there they were, all 3 deep into the playoffs, because of…..QB play.

    Bears D didn’t do much for them last year huh, when Cutler struggled.

  • McRaider5150

    Alex? Does the number 7 stand for you football IQ???

    I thought so.

    Ask anyone that actually played football or knows something about it how important a good oline it.

    Bye the way what 3 QB are HOFers???

  • alex7

    Mistic,

    your “improved” O-line play got the Bears two 100-yard rushers their final 11 games, and gave up 6 sacks the final game of the season.

    Wow, just wow.

  • HayesDaze37

    Big Ben is definitely elite, if not great statistically. His W-L record is what matters. If he wins another Super Bowl playing this way, he absolutley must be considered a great QB.

    Aaron Rodgers is close…and if he continues to play the way he has been, he’ll be considered elite also. If he wins this Super Bowl, he will be elite enough for me.

    Aaron Rodgers exhibits skills and touch that great QB’s have. Big Ben, like him or no, exhibits a tendency to win, and a desire to compete that can’t be questioned. If JC comes around, his personal stats probably will be like Ben’s…now, if he could find a way to win like him!

  • DeuceDeuce

    I dont see the Packers letting Perry & Moss both leave…

  • alex7

    McRaider,

    Brady, Manning, and Ben – the three QBs whose teams invested a measly 4 OUT OF 36 1st round picks on O-linemen the last 12 years.

    They kinda know top QBs don’t need top O-linemen.

    But hey, I’m sure you’re smarter than those three organizations and their shiny Super Bowl trophies.

  • http://www.hotmail.com The Dirtee Raccoon

    33.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    Ahh, yes. The shills are out in force.

    ***********************

    You called?

  • DeuceDeuce

    *Steelers & Packers

  • DeuceDeuce

    alex7 Says:
    January 31st, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    McRaider,

    Brady, Manning, and Ben – the three QBs whose teams invested a measly 4 OUT OF 36 1st round picks on O-linemen the last 12 years.

    They kinda know top QBs don’t need top O-linemen.

    But hey, I’m sure you’re smarter than those three organizations and their shiny Super Bowl trophies.

    —-

    But im sure Tom Brady wished he had top lineman in the SB against the Giants when he was getting manhandled…