Pack’s best shot is to abandon the run
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, February 6th, 2011 at 9:57 am in Oakland Raiders.
I’m taking the Steelers, but truth be told, would rather see the Packers win Super Bowl XLV today.
And since everything in this space revolves around the Raiders, the advice for Green Bay is to cue up the tape from Sept. 15, 2002, Oakland vs. Pittsburgh at Heinz Field.
The Raiders were in their second game with Bill Callahan as head coach and Marc Trestman as offensive coordinator, having traded Jon Gruden to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
In the opener, the offense was much as Gruden would have it _ 423 yards of total offense, 221 rushing, 202 passing, 13 first downs rushing, 12 first downs passing. The very picture of balance in a 31-17 win over the Seattle Seahawks.
In the days leading up to Pittsburgh in Week 2, Callahan talked about the need for similar balance against the Steelers. No way the Raiders could survive such a ferocious defense without it.
Of course, Callahan and Trestman had other ideas. New England’s Tom Brady went 29-for-43 for 294 yards and three touchdowns in beating Pittsburgh 30-14 in the opener, with the Patriots running the ball only 18 times.
Turns out, Callahan later said they had been game planning for Pittsburgh since the offseason, essentially turning the ball over to Rich Gannon and letting him control the game with his passing.
In one of the more memorable Raiders regular season games I’ve ever covered, Gannon threw 41 passes _ by halftime. He completed 29 of them, for 257 yards and a touchdown. They had only five running plays in the half, one of them a 36-yard TD run by Charlie Garner. By game’s end, Gannon was 43-for-64 for 403 yards and the Raiders prevailed 30-17. Oakland had spread Pittsburgh out and attacked through a series of short passes which helped negate the Steelers pass rush (they still sacked Gannon five times).
The Raiders had 20 third down attempts and converted 12 of them.
Green Bay doesn’t have much of a running game and would be best advised to abandon it shortly after the National Anthem. Let Rodgers put the ball up 50-plus times and have his arm be both the passing game and the running game.
The Steelers’ defensive coordinator in 2002 wasn’t Dick LeBeau, in his last year with Cincinnati as head coach, but Tim Lewis. However, it was still a similar 3-4 and even has two starters still intact in nose tackle Casey Hampton and inside linebacker James Farrior.
Some of the most notable success against Pittsburgh this season came from elite quarterbacks who controlled the game with their passing. Brady was 30-for-43 for 350 yards and three touchdowns in a 39-26 win on Nov. 14. Drew Brees was 34-for-44 (including 20 of 22 in the second half) for 305 yards and two touchdowns in a 20-10 win on Oct. 31.
As the father of a teenage daughter, I’m all for Rodgers winning over Ben Roethlisberger, although my first instinct is that the Steelers will win.
So my advice for Green Bay _ get lots of ice for Rodgers’ arm. Do this right, and he’ll need it at the postgame party.
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February 6th, 2011 at 10:03 am
1ST
February 6th, 2011 at 10:05 am
With you Jerry. Rooting for the Pack, but betting on the Steelers. Short passing game is the only way to beat Pittsburgh
February 6th, 2011 at 10:08 am
3rd
February 6th, 2011 at 10:08 am
When you have Pro Bowl offensive linemen like Lincoln Kennedy and Barrett Robbins, and hall of fame Wide receivers, it’s much easier to throw!
Fix the O-line and find at least one reliable, go to receiver, and we’ll be talking about the Raiders in the post season on a regular basis.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:21 am
wingnuts or wing stop?
February 6th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Buffalo Wild Wings!
February 6th, 2011 at 10:24 am
SR Raider Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 10:05 am
With you Jerry. Rooting for the Pack, but betting on the Steelers. Short passing game is the only way to beat Pittsburgh
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You remind me of a buddy last year, rooting for the Saints but put his money on the Colts!!
I’ll be rooting for the packers, betting on the packers and cheering for the packers!
Oh ya Jer, the packers have a guy named Starks that has done pretty well in the playoffs so far. Regardless, the packers will win on defense IMO.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Packers fan who has attended every Super Bowl will miss Sunday’s game
Posted by Mike Florio on February 6, 2011, 1:57 AM EST
Four men have attended all 44 Super Bowls. On Sunday, the “Never Missed a Super Bowl” club will be trimmed to three.
Robert Cook, 79, of Wisconsin has been hospitalized and won’t make the trip to Texas. His two daughters will be going in his place.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:29 am
2) DT/NT Phil Taylor (Baylor) or OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State)
3) OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin) or LB Casey Matthews (Oregon)
4) OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida) or DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
5) C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock)
6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
7) WR Ricardo Lockette (Ford Valley State) or RB Robert Hughes (Notre Dame)
Then attempt to bring Miller, Asomugha, Seymour, Wimbley, Huff, Routt, Bush, Reece, Condo and Cartwright all back into the fold.
If Huff walks, sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.
If Bush walks, sign Le’Ron McClain or bring in a rookie.
If Asomugha walks, sign Jonathan Joseph.
If Routt walks, sign Richard Marshall.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:31 am
27-17 cheeseheads win as their defense contains big Ben in the pocket…. Cwood pick six or sack with a fumble baby !!!!!!!!
February 6th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Green Bay will have to run the ball to stay in the game. Pittsburgh will have to throw the ball to stay in the game.
That being said, if the Packers win it will be because they are able to throw the ball in the 4th quarter. If the Steelers win it will be be because they wiil be able to run the ball in the 4th quarter.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Cajun flavor from Wing Stop are the bomb!!
February 6th, 2011 at 10:35 am
I see a close game, a lot less scoring than people think, and although I am whole-heartedly pulling for my fellow Butte College Alum Aaron Rodgers, I have a feeling Ben will pull it out in the end.
24-16 Steelers
February 6th, 2011 at 10:41 am
i think the deciding factor in todays game will be that italian guy troy polamalu
February 6th, 2011 at 10:45 am
I just got some inside information that all teenage cheerleaders from the lonestar state will be in attendance, fist few rows, Pittsburgh sideline.
BEEENNNN!, BEEEENNNNNN!!, BBBEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNN!!!
February 6th, 2011 at 10:47 am
I think the NFL might have rigged it in 2002 just to get us to the Super Bowl, so Chucky could smash us in front of a world wide super bowl audience. Lose 4 games straight and still wind up with home field advantage? Come on.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:47 am
It’s going to come down to whichever team can get the most out of their running game, and whichever team has the least costly turnovers.
Other than that, it should be a good game of football. Shame that it’s between two teams I despise.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Three days after spinning the already-wacky world of college football recruiting off its axis by committing on national television/not signing/decommitting — Cyrus Kouandjio finally stopped the madness Saturday afternoon.
The massive DeMatha Catholic High School offensive tackle actually put pen to paper and signed his national letter-of-intent with Alabama, ending a wild ride that had him announcing he would sign with arch-rival Auburn on ESPNU on Wednesday and then waffling within the span of minutes.
“He said he wanted to respect his friends — and fans,” Jean Claude Kouandjio, the player’s father, told Tidesports.com. “He wanted to respect the advice of his friends, people who admire him. That’s what he wanted to do.
“The text messages he received from his friends, people who admire him, it’s overwhelming. They want him to go (to) Alabama. He wants to respect those people.”
Kouandjio, the 6-foot-7, 322-pound younger brother of Alabama redshirt freshman offensive lineman Arie Kouandjio, is a five-star prospect considered by many as the best offensive line talent in America. The younger Kouandjio became the 22nd signee for Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide, which claimed the No. 1 national team recruiting ranking according to Rivals.com.
Alabama still has a chance to pad that lofty ranking, as consensus No. 1 athlete DE Jadeveon Clowney (6-6, 247, Rock Hill, S.C., South Pointe HS), is likely to decide among Alabama, Clemson and South Carolina on Feb. 14 — his 18th birthday
February 6th, 2011 at 10:55 am
We didn’t have home-field throughout, we were set to go to Indy to play the AFC championship game but Peyton choked and the Titans beat them, giving us home-field for the championship game.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:01 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 10:47 am
It’s going to come down to whichever team can get the most out of their running game, and whichever team has the least costly turnovers.
Other than that, it should be a good game of football. Shame that it’s between two teams I despise.
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Why do you hate the Packers? The way I see it, the only reasons for hating the Packers are if you are a Bears, Vikings, or Lions fan, live in Wisconsin (as a Raider fan), or are Brett Favre.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Why do you hate the Packers? that stupid cheese they wear on their heads.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:05 am
I want to see Roethlisberger get sexually assaulted by Clay Mathews today.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Should be a great game.
Most people expect that GB will spread out Pitt’s D and be able to move the ball with their quick passing game, seem’s like a pretty good idea….except that Tomlin and LeBeau have had 2 weeks to prepare for such a gameplan, they will have an answer for it.
Of course, that doesn’t mean whatever Tomlin-LeBeau come up with will definitely work.
My guess is it will (work) to a degree, they won’t completely shut down Rodgers but even if GB moves the ball between the 20’s, they still have to get in the End Zone and that’s where they might be in trouble.
The Pats did spread out Pitt and kicked their butt, but NE also ran for 103 yards that day, the most allowed by them all year, so there was some balance from NE which prevented Pitt from going all-out after Brady and TE Rob Gronkowski had a great day.
I don’t think GB will run for a 100 yards today and they don’t have a big, fast, strong TE like Gronkowski to throw to.
In last year’s meeting, Pitt won 37-36, but GB had a great day from TE Jermichael Finley, 9 catches and a TD, he’s not around this time and Polamalu didn’t play in that game.
Now how about Pitt spreading out GB?.
Ward, Wallace, Sanders and Brown are dangerous too, Packers CB Tramon Williams is great, but C-Wood is no longer playing CB full-time, he’s moved around so he’s shadowing WR’s anymore, at least not all the game and nickel CB Sam Shields is a player, but he’s a rookie who has been playing the positions for 2 years (used to be a WR).
Add TE Heath Miller who can stay in-line so they have 6 blockers or go out in short routes and a big, fast do it all RB like Rashard Mendenhall who can run and it seems like an offense just a dangerous as GB’s if not more due to the threat of the run.
In fact, I think Pitt’s TE and RB are vastly superior to GB’s, Heat Miller and Rashard Mendenhall might be they key to this game.
Miller can catch and is a great blocker, if he’s on Clay Matthews, it’s close to an even matchup and Rashard Mendenhall just ran all over the NYJ defense, the best in the league outside of Pitt and that was with C Doug Legursky playing most of the game.
I’ve watched GB many times this year, on offense they tend to play in spurts, they look unstopabble on a couple of drives and then look real bad for a few series and their Defense does not look like a dominating unit to me, they’re good but they seem to be lacking something, a killer instinct maybe.
Because of what I just said, GB ends up letting opponets hang around in most games and when you’re facing Big Ben and it remains a close game by the 4th quarter, your chances are not very good.
I think Pitt needs to focus on taking Matthews out of the game, outside of him the Pack don’t have any dominant pass rushers, meanwhile GB has to deal with both James Harrison and Lamarr Woodley.
In the end, Rashard Mendenhall is the MVP, he runs well, helps Pitt deliver TD’s in the red zone and keep Rodgers in the bench just enough to diminish his impact, with Big Ben finishing the Pack in the 4th quarter.
Pitt 24, GB 20.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Can’t see the “powers that be” allowing Roehlisberger to win this game in the same way that Moss wasn’t “allowed” to become a world champ with the Patriots after tanking it with Oakland… Go Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay Packers!
February 6th, 2011 at 11:07 am
‘Sup fellas.
Should be a helluva game. My head says Pittsburgh is too tough and experienced to lose.
But, I can’t stomach the thought of the Steelers with another VLT.
So, I’m going with my heart. Despite the presence of two excellent, opportunistic defenses..I’m predicting a shootout. Pack 34-31.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Confucius400 Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Why do you hate the Packers? that stupid cheese they wear on their heads.
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There is nothing wrong with cheese. It is cooler than dressing up like a member of the Insane Clown Posse or Slipknot.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:11 am
I’m a Chicagoan, so by default the Bears are my second favorite team (albeit by a very, very wide margin). I’ve pretty much been raised to hate the Packers.
Plus they beat the Raiders in Superbowl II.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:11 am
I AM pulling for the Packers, though. Can’t have the Steelers winning another one.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:15 am
The Black Eyed Peas will rock the XLV Super Bowl halftime show at Cowboys Stadium in Dallas
February 6th, 2011 at 11:17 am
By the way, I’d rather have the Packers win, but everyone seems ready to hand them the trophy already, from regular joes to the idiotic talking heads, never a good sign.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Vegas,
Raiders had home field in ‘02. Do your homework, stat boy.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Packers are -3??????
I thought the Steelers were the favorite coming in?
February 6th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Vegas, what to do???
Packers ML -145
Steelers ML +125
February 6th, 2011 at 11:20 am
I don’t know if I’d ask Vegas for his picks. He’s not on his A-game today. Thinks Indy had home field in ‘02. Mr. stat maven.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:22 am
pitt will jump out to a 24-0 lead but a halftime big ben will be taken away in cuffs for something he did last night the pack will come back in the second half 35-24 final
February 6th, 2011 at 11:25 am
O/U 45
February 6th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Marley – NE started running only after they got the Squeelers nervous with their passing attack. Thats when they started running out of the shotgun with success. At first it wasn’t anywhere near being balanced.
You keep Troy P. in coverage instead of making an impact at the LOS.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:28 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 11:11 am
I’m a Chicagoan, so by default the Bears are my second favorite team (albeit by a very, very wide margin). I’ve pretty much been raised to hate the Packers.
Plus they beat the Raiders in Superbowl II.
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I also live in Chicago. I have grown to hate the Bears. My only concern going into the playoffs was that the Bears did not go to the Super Bowl.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Steelers win by 40. Ben gets arrested after game for indecent exposure, committed after touchdown.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:30 am
I was reading the posts from this morning about Rolando and MM34. Just want to throw in my two cents.
Rolando is going to be a stud. There were some times he looked like a rookie. Maybe took the wrong gap or got blocked out of some inside running lanes.
But, like Vegas has said before, The guy is very young and still has the frame to carry some more weight. Another offseason in the weight room to add some upper body strength will do hime a world of good.
One of my favorite aspects of McPains game is his ability to snuff out a screen. Remember how susceptible the Raider D was to screen passes. They could get a sack and have opp in 3rd and 18 and then inevitably give up a screen for 20+. Happened too many times.
Not anymore. Say what you want about Rolando, but he can diagnos a screen pass. I noticed it at Alabama in the natl. championship. He reads his keys and singlehandedly will crush a screen pass.
There was one game, can’t remember which…some of you might. He blew up the screen by tackling the lead blocker. Drove him right into the ball carrier and put them both on the ground. It was impressive as hell.
Add that to his physicality, and even nasty streak…K.O’ng Sproles and going all WWE on that poor slot rec from the Rams and the Raiders are going to have one helluva MLB.
And he should just keep getting better and better.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:31 am
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February 6th, 2011 at 11:35 am
the voice in my head says the packers will win!
February 6th, 2011 at 11:36 am
One guy whose opinion weighs on me is Sean Payton, he’s already beaten the Steelers this year and he said GB 34-PITT 20, as Rodgers has the time to throw and do what the whole world is expecting them to do, spread the Steelers out.
That’s just the opposite of what I was thinking lol…but I’m not changing my pick.
GB spreading them out to the tune of high scoring game where Pitt can’t match their firepower just seems to obvious.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:37 am
But that’s SB winner Sean Payton talking….what the hell do I know?.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:42 am
That tells me I should be coaching/strategizing in this league man! I know this sht!hahahahha
The Terrapin knows who is most likely to win with high probability by the 1st drives of the game. Their game plan becomes immediately obvious and you key on the matchups – whose winning at the LOS. They tell you all you need to know …you know who has the upper hand …who has their work cut out for them. From there onward its simply going through the motions and no f’k ups
February 6th, 2011 at 11:44 am
I’m pulling for Charles Woodson to get his ring. Even though he’s a FORMER Raider, and even worse a heisman trophy winner from Mich…that school up north, it’s hard not to pull for that guy.
He was one of my favorites while he was in Silver and Black.
Plus, I kinda like his line in the locker room after NFC champ. If the Bear fan-in-chief don’t wanna come to Dallas and watch us, well then we’ll just have to go to the White House to see him.
I thought that was pretty good.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:46 am
Do the Packers cover?
February 6th, 2011 at 11:46 am
When Pitts played Jets …1st drive of the game by Pitts I knew they were going to win it. I saw the game plan immediately …cold weather ..they were going to muscle the Jets and pound it up the middle …and then late in the game those Jets LBs would be in no mode to tackle that big azz RB in brutal cold weather. Jets couldn’t stop ‘em. Their goose was cooked not even 4mins into the game.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Now goes without saying if GB can’t stop Pitts run game they have a problem. Rodgers can spread them out all he wants but if he can’t get on the field enough it wont matter.
I hope Woodson tears Rothles a new one …knock his fat azz out
February 6th, 2011 at 11:52 am
AD: Herrera. Where in the hell are you! Herrera.
H: Sorry, Mr. Davis. I was on the phone
AD: Ger off the damn phone.
H: Yes, sir, Mr. Davis.
AD: Call the Black Eyed Peas manager and ask if Fegie can sing the national anthem at our home opener.
H: Yes, Mr. Davis.
AD: I’ll also need an extra dose of that viagra.
H: Anything else?
AD: Do you think she’ll dig my yellow teeth and that band aid I wore at the press conference.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:52 am
With a shoddy OL in what may include a backup Center now …GB should not have an issue stopping that run game. But they MUST stop it. That kills Pitts playaction.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:57 am
No Lo Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 11:52 am
AD: Herrera. Where in the hell are you! Herrera.
H: Sorry, Mr. Davis. I was on the phone
AD: Ger off the damn phone.
H: Yes, sir, Mr. Davis.
AD: Call the Black Eyed Peas manager and ask if Fegie can sing the national anthem at our home opener.
H: Yes, Mr. Davis.
AD: I’ll also need an extra dose of that viagra.
H: Anything else?
AD: Do you think she’ll dig my yellow teeth and that band aid I wore at the press conference.
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I didn’t know Al Davis was into transvestites.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
“TerrapinRaider Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 11:52 am
With a shoddy OL in what may include a backup Center now …GB should not have an issue stopping that run game.”
Really?.
Pitt just ran all over the Jets 2nd ranked run defense with that shoddy OL and their backup Center entering the game on their first possesion…..GB ranks 18th vs th run.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Is there a Football game today?
February 6th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
MR, tried to go off memory, and was way off. Getting old maybe. As you would say, sue me.
Ray, Tough to bet against the Steelers. When you go to the window and tell them Pittsburgh with the under (and you are getting points!!!) you usually walk away feeling pretty confident.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Is there something going on in Egypt right now?
February 6th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
Well, off to a SB party…can’t wait to open my first beer of the day.
If GB wins it, I’d be really happy for Charles Woodson, always one of my favorite players.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Buck,
Dead on about McClain and the screens. I literally haven’t seen anything like it in a Raider uniform.
My favorite charasteric of Pain McClain is that when he lines up a ball-carrier, they go down and go down quickly. It’s not that he is lighting everyone up with big hits, but guys generally don’t break a Rolando McClain tackle or even drag him for a couple of yards.
Rolando is our shiny-hope for the future, IMO. We just need to keep him away from Tequilla (his sister) and Tequilla (booze).
February 6th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Sue you? Wow. Guys, if JFB ever arrogantly tries to refute you with stats, and you look his stats up and realize he’s wrong, don’t say anything. He gets testy.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Today will be my first Super Bowl without a reefer in I don’t know how long. Probably over 15 years.
Put one in the air for your buddy today.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Any given Sunday Marley, any given Sunday. That Sunday, the Jets were not up to the task.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Eff it….I took the Steelers (as much as I hate them) +125 ML!!
February 6th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
+125 = value
February 6th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
if Hue wants to see what Raider football should be then he should give Trestman a call. We ran when we wanted to, we passed when we wanted to. Every player knew what their role was. Oh and we had WR’s that could catch the ball. Oh well, I guess we can see Trestman’s Raider football in about 2013.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Al Saunders baby!
February 6th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Thats why!
Mixed emotions going into the game.
I want the Packs to win…but the Steelers are gonna win and value on my bet!
February 6th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Is there something going on in Egypt right now?
………………the winner of the superbowl plays eygpt for the world cup i think.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Do you guys know any streaming websites
February 6th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Bill Williamson just posted an article about how the Raiders could look to Santana Moss if they’re interested in bringing in a veteran WR.
I’d be all for it. Good veteran mentor for Murph and Ford.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Bill Williamson just posted an article about how the Raiders could look to Santana Moss if they’re interested in bringing in a veteran WR.
I’d be all for it. Good veteran mentor for Murph and Ford.
……….yeah Santana that would be great maybe he will play his hit song Black Magic Woman.
February 6th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
these hollywood types are squares. u can tell they dont know jack about football
February 6th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Wings check BEER check Cole slaw check curly fries,woman you forgot the curly fries .road trip.
February 6th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Plunk <——– smoking a dirtweed doobie for Vegas
February 6th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Have no weed today. Will have to make up for it with a deadly combination of whiskey and wings.
February 6th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
I made a prop bet
I put 20 on Fergie pissing her pants again
I hope she gets drunk early today
February 6th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Bummer RMR, sorry to hear that
February 6th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Davis said he still does not know what happened in the hotel room at training camp when Hanson had his jaw broken. Hanson accused Cable of throwing him against the wall, causing the left side of Hanson’s face to strike a table, then hit Hanson while he was on the floor. Hanson was treated for a fractured jaw and broken teeth. Hanson said Cable was restrained by assistants John Marshall, Willie Brown and Lionel Washington.
Davis said he didn’t want to get into the middle of the dispute.
”Can’t get the story,” Davis said. ”You know, it’s like Gitmo. Trying to find out, did they waterboard those guys or not? No, really. It’s hard to believe. How many guys went in? Four guys went into the room with a guy, the guys comes out with a broken jaw and no one saw it.”
February 6th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Man, Fox is smart. They are raking in the $$$$ with all this advertising. This is like the Super Bowl mixed with the Golden Globe awards mixed in with MTV. These bamas are smart. Collecting a lot of $$$ today
February 6th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Who is Maria? The announcer on Fox? Looks a little like Brooke burke.
These bands are gay
February 6th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Re 77.
If four guys went into the room with one guy. I would not be talking either.
February 6th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=3139fba7-71ec-4b66-99d8-e69b4155a55c
Kinda gay video… but the piece on Aso is pretty funny (its a couple minutes in).
February 6th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Five and a half minutes in.
February 6th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
has the game started yet what inning is it?
February 6th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
68.PurpleDrank81 Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Do you guys know any streaming websites
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tvpc.com
That is one reliable place. Just click on the network.
February 6th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 10:08 am
When you have Pro Bowl offensive linemen like Lincoln Kennedy and Barrett Robbins, and hall of fame Wide receivers, it’s much easier to throw!
Fix the O-line and find at least one reliable, go to receiver, and we’ll be talking about the Raiders in the post season on a regular basis.
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Over/under on how many times you are going to bring up ‘fix the oline’?
Ya, we know, we get it. Every team needs a solid oline. Everyone.
Now is when you post “when they fix it, I’ll stop talking bout it”
February 6th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Packers 30 – Steelers 28
February 6th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Wow!
Richard Dent and blabber mouth Sharpe in the HOF ahead of Ray Guy, Jim Plunkett, Cliff Branch, Tom Flores and Lester Hayes.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz…..
When can these freakin idiot voters of the HOF have their voting privelages revoked?
February 6th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
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# UCSBPreMedMike Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 11:30 am
SABOL???? okaaayyy. Should be players and coaches. Wouldn’t the big time contracts overtime be enough for somebody that made movies?
Raiders need to start their own Hall of Fame, or “Hall of Excellence” to compensate for the dishonor and resentment the rest of the NFL and players have for our historical Raider players.
^^^^^^^
Whenever the Raiders get a new stadium, then yes, they need to build a Raiders Hall of Fame next to the stadium full or Raider memorabilia all throughout the history of the franchise.
# DKnight007 Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Goooooooo PACKERS!
February 6th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I’m rooting for Rodgers and the Pack to win this sucker!
But the bet is on the Steelers….that is the where the VALUE bet is at.
February 6th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I put 20 on Fergie pissing her pants again.
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Nearly did mine laughing at that.
February 6th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
24-21 Packers.
February 6th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Failure to complete temporary seating leaves some ticket holders out in the cold
Posted by Mike Florio on February 6, 2011, 4:48 PM EST
The NFL has distributed in the press box at Cowboys Stadium a statement that will keep some fans who have tickets from actually getting in to tonight’s game.
“There are a limited number of sections in temporary seating areas inside the stadium that have not been fully completed,” the statement reads. “We are working to resolve the matter and expect that by game time most of the fans affected will have been accommodated in their seats or relocated to similar or better seats.
“Those fans that are affected by this will be directed to the Party Plaza area while the matter is resolved.
“Fans who are not accommodated with seats inside the stadium will each receive a refund of triple the cost of the face value of their ticket.
“We regret the situation.”
Regret is an understatement.
Frankly, a triple-cost refund isn’t enough. The NFL also should reimburse the affected fans for all travel and lodging expenses. Regardless of how this happened, it’s inexcusable for the fans to find out upon arriving at the stadium that they’re S.O.L. At a bare minimum, the affected fans should be refunded every dime spent to make a trip they otherwise would not have made.
And how is this something that comes up now, on game day? Surely, the league knew about this before Sunday. Why not be candid about it so that the affected fans could choose either not to make the trip to Dallas or not to make the trek to the stadium.
Of course, that would have increased the numbers of folks who’d be eligible for refunds, and it would have prevented the league from getting as many folding chairs as possible crammed into the venue so that refunds of some big-dollar tickets wouldn’t be required.
It’s disappointing to see a league that gets so many things right whiff on something so fundamental as ensuring that every ticket sold will translate to a corresponding seat.
February 6th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
Head say Steelers win.
Heart say Packers win.
My bet is over 45.5.
Prop bet = mike Wallace will catch a pass for +20yd gain.
No kick/punt return TDs.
For fun I bet a Defensive TD.
February 6th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Neilb Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
I put 20 on Fergie pissing her pants again.
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Nearly did mine laughing at that.
$$$$$$$$$$
The girls Pee Pee when they See Me.
February 6th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
Navahoes creep with me in they Tee Pee.
February 6th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
“Nearly did mine laughing at that.”
plus 130 on the money line was too sweet to pass on
February 6th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
I will take James Jett for first score
Pack and the over
Total points at end of game = 53
February 6th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
packers and raiders are getting ready too take the field.
February 6th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Aaron Rodgers looks like he has been eating gunpowder
February 6th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Christina too
February 6th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
should of went with the on side kick
February 6th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Def hand to face was not called.
Go Pack Go.
February 6th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Bank my Def TD.
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February 6th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Steelers #68 is dirtiest player in NFL.
Hate as Steeler.
Would love as Raider.
February 6th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
william gay is ________
February 6th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Confucius400 is ______
a)lame
b)a moron
c)a Chinese computer
February 6th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
A.B.Paine the tird is ________
February 6th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
*third
February 6th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Worst half time show ever.
February 6th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
There might have been worse halftime shows in Super Bowl history, but probably none more boring. On a scale from 1 to 10, Slash’s appearance upgrades them by 1 point, so they get a…1.
February 6th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
So did Fergie piss herself?????
February 6th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Do we still want James Jones? Looks like a Raider receiver with less speed
February 6th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
James Jones will be a Raider. 5 years 50 million dollar contract.
February 6th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
I’m not a Steeler or Packer fan by any definition of the word, but before the game I predicted GB to win, however after the injury to CWood, I’m forced to make a new prediction, I’m now saying Pit will come back and win it 31-28.
James Jones will not be a Raider next season. Not Al Speed.
February 6th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Offense wins championships. Passing game rules means you have to score 30 to keep up with anyone. No more 17-13 games with 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
February 6th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Raiders next SB player steal will be WR Joryn Nelson. One more drop and he will meet the quota of 5 per game for a WR. Though he does have as many catches too.
February 6th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Joryn Nelson makes DHB look like Larry Fitzgerald. I mean how many passes has this guy dropped today?
February 6th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Oh how I wish I had a suppa bowl today. Rodgers woulda never made it here. We need a qb that comes here and wins now. Me and my new man Hue got Campell. He sure can throw the football.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Go Ben Go. 7 ringggggggs.
De-fense. De-fense. De-fense.
Go Ben Go.
De-fense. De-fense. De-fense.
No more rings for you!
February 6th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Wow, Rodgers was AWESOME TODAY!!!!!
Nice call Jerry.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
*Nice call on abandoning the run. Thats the only way to beat the Steelers.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Congratz Charles Woodson. I wish you would have done it for the Silver and Black but none the less enjoy it you are now a champion.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
I sure hope Al brings back to Cwood to retire with us. I have a feeling he will go into the HOF as a packer though. Darn shame.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Congrats Charles Woodson and Aaron Rodgers!
February 6th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Raiders announce d-coordinator Tuesday? Wednesday?
February 6th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
WOOOOOOOO PACKERS WIN THE SUPER BOWL! CHEESE FOR EVERYONE!
Congrats to CWood, man. You deserved it. Wish you could’ve won it in the silver and black, but such is life.
Ain’t no shouting and setting off of firecrackers like I heard here two years ago!!! I love it.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
# alex7 Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Raiders announce d-coordinator Tuesday? Wednesday?
Gimme Darren Perry!!!!!!
February 6th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
# SilverNBlackPA Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
# alex7 Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
Raiders announce d-coordinator Tuesday? Wednesday?
Gimme Darren Perry!!!!!!
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YEEAAHHHH!!!!
February 6th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Man, Rodgers was so frickin awesome today. Dude could of have 400 yds easily if Jones and Nelson hung on to some passes.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Is this the first time a spread offense actually produced points in the SB and won? I know NE ran a spread too but I dont remember them scoring too many points in the SB.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Hopefully today will silence some of that “Sign James Jones” talk I’ve been hearing around Raider Nation. We have enough receivers to drop passes, thanks.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
I know Aaron was great but they had 21 points of 3 turnovers. Show the D some love.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
# Raider 510 Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
I know Aaron was great but they had 21 points of 3 turnovers. Show the D some love.
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Hopefully Darren Perry will come here and show us some of that love….
February 6th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
The Terrapin calls it again. It shouldn’t have even been close. If the Pack’s WRs were not droppin balls as if they were Raiders it wouldn’t even had been this close.
Spread Pitts out with quick hitters (and deep strikes to mix it in) and you have Troy in coverage all day.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
and again that is how you beat the squeelers, pass their azses off like gannon did….
February 6th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
You see Pitts could barely even get in their base defense. GB started out passing with success and set the tone.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
Been watching every bit of film I can find from this year trying to evaluate Veldheer.
Just watched the week 17 footage….Campbell put a MONSTER block on Tamba Hali to spring Ford for that end around TD. Kudos to Soup, that was a heck of a play.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
SilverNBlackPA Says:–share clips.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
And we passed on Aaron Rodgers? How did that come to pass? Just think what we’d look like with him at QB.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Happy for Charles Woodson, that he won the Big One. Sorry his shoulder was injured but he’s worked hard since at GB. I really expected the Steelers to win but was rooting for the Packers. Pleasant surprise with the ending.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Kevin Greene moves up and coaches all the linebackers in Green Bay.
Winston Moss to the Raiders. I hope, anyway.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Anyone think GB would like to have Bush in the gold & green? He’s going to be hard to keep here.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
JB: Rodgers would not have gotten to ride pine for umpteen seasons behind a hall of fame QB and then have great WRs to throw to had he come to Oakland.
Hes done so well partly because hes a packer.
February 6th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Won some good bets on this one. Totally called the turnovers
February 6th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
GoodOle00
Unfortunately, all too true.
February 6th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Butte College Fighting Road Runner pride!!!
February 6th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Pretty safe bet the Steelers take some DB’s in this upcoming draft.
Those guys even get picked on by the Bruce Gradkowski’s of the world some weeks.
Upgrade is definately needed.
February 6th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
I’m tired of hearing about the great WRs GB has.They almost cost them the game with their drops.If that had been the Raiders,so many would have been on here talking about how our WRs suck and they should be cut.What the game showed is even if your WR drops a ball,you MUST continue to get them the ball.
February 6th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
I love it when the rapists lose.
Kobe, Roethlisberger, etc…
February 6th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
kirk that was dead on
February 6th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Raiders need to interview both Winston Moss and/or Perry and hire one by Tuesday.
February 6th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
John Madden should get his money back for those awful seats.
February 6th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
I third your motion, Kirk!
February 6th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Happy for Mr. Charles Woodson.
February 6th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Green Bay has two excellent WRs, Jennings and Driver, it was their 3rd and 4th recievers that dropped balls, Jennings had a solid game and saved their WR corps reputation.
February 6th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Roethlisberger was off. They gave Rodgers too many chances. Steelers were out of sync all game, till they really needed a score, and that charm died in their last drive.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
I’m happy for C. Woodson. He was a great Raider IMO. My first and only Raider Jersey is #24 Woodson.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
You can accept a guy dropping passes like Nelson did, when he on the other hand has 9 catches for 140 yards and a TD.
A couple of huge 3rd down conversions in the second half he made as well.
Our WR’s drop passes, never have anything like 9 for 140, and don’t have enough huge second half 3rd down conversions.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Angry Villager with Pitchfork Says:
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Great handle. Genius.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
It’s all good because Roethlisgerger’s probably getting dome from a woman with no dignity right now.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
What time do you guys think Priest will come in and compare the Raiders to the Packers?
February 6th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
shut up fool you don’t know anything! you’re crazy if you don’t think that Campbelll shows some of the same characteristics as Rodgers. I’ve watched this kid play and I’m telling you when I see Campbell’s pocket presence I see Aaron Rodgers.,..
February 6th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
CWood will always be a Raider to many of us here…..
Charles Woodson suffered broken collarbone
Posted by Mike Florio on February 6, 2011, 10:59 PM EST
Like Patriots safety Rodney Harrison seven years ago, Packers cornerback Charles Woodson won the first Super Bowl ring of his career despite leaving the game with a broken bone.
For Harrison, it was a broken forearm. For Woodson, it was a broken collarbone.
Woodson confirmed that he suffered the injury while diving to the ground late in the first half.
He’ll have plenty of time to heal. And we’ve got a feeling it won’t be hurting quite as much.
Nine years after the tuck rule game and eight years after losing to the Bucs as a member of the Raiders, Woodson has become the rare Heisman Trophy winner to play a key role in becoming a Super Bowl champion.
UPDATE: Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Woodson tried to address the team at halftime, but he became too emotional and couldn’t finish.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
What were you telling me about Rogers about 4 weeks ago genius?
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Roethlisberger was off. They gave Rodgers too many chances. Steelers were out of sync all game, till they really needed a score, and that charm died in their last drive.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
The best WTF Super Bowl quote as shone on Little Rocks Fox16, Jerry Jones talking about security “We have many sniper positions in here”.
Only Jerry Jones God love him.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
What did I say about Rodgers 4 weeks ago? I said he sucked. Today, he needed about 10 chances to put the game away in the 4th quarter, to beat what was, for the most part, a hapless Steeler offense. Should I say Rodgers was great, and that he’s the next Joe Montana, even considering that if Roethliberger throws his final pass about 2 feet lower, he might not even win today?
February 6th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Poor John Madden was probably wishing a sniper would have shot him. Who stuck him with those seats?
February 6th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
MR, your a priesttj clone. You make ridiculous comments and then have to make even more ridiculous statements to support your original moronic thoughts.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Here you are worrying yourself sick about John Maddens seats as if he couldn’t get up and move to another spot. For all you know he picked that seat.
Moron.
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Poor John Madden was probably wishing a sniper would have shot him. Who stuck him with those seats?
February 6th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
There are only five(5)different teams to win the AFC Championship since the start of the century.
The Oakland Raiders are one of the teams who are part of this elite group.
The others are:
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
New England
Indianapolis
-Source: Raider Spinmaster
February 6th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
MB, I said Rodgers is overrated. He still is. He did not play a great game today. I don’t even have to see his stats to say it, but I’m sure they’d back it up. Rodgers failed to put the game away, had to settle for a FG. Overthrew it. Roethlisberger’s final pass is two feet lower, and it’s possible that Rodgers winds up a SB also-ran.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Madden, choosing to sit next to Bush? Madden has dignity, MB. There’s no chance.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Does anybody think there is any chance in hades that someone other than Campbell is our starting QB next season?
I know we have plenty of time to debate this and much debate has already taken place, but he seems to me to be playing in slow motion.
What I don’t get is Al Davis seems to be so high on the guy and yet Campbell rarely throws the ball deep, which contradicts the general opinion that Al prefers the “vertical” passing game.
Not much vertical going on this past season.
February 6th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
There are only five(5)different teams to win the AFC Championship since the start of the century.
The Oakland Raiders are one of the teams who are part of this elite group.
The others are:
Tennessee
Pittsburgh
New England
Indianapolis
-Source: Raider Spinmaster
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Gannon was awesome.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
DJohnnyG, I would have never had any clue that Al’s insistent on the vertical game had he not said so so many times.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
Rogers didn’t play great? 300+, 3tds, no ints. Made the squeelers pay for every turnover. And there were a lot A WHOLE lot of Packer drops, Nelson alone had 4 drops. Shouldn’t even have been as close as it was
Rogers is not overrated. Guy throws tight pretty spirals all over the field, he’s the real deal. But cheer up, you can always roast Al for not drafting him while he had the chance.
Which reminds me of another upside to the SB result: this ought to put a dent in the Rooney lovefest that’s been going on in here.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Davy, take away Roethlisberger’s INTs, and he and Rodgers stats are not far apart.
Rodgers can play. But I would have liked to see him close the deal by hitting that last pass he overthrew in the end zone to equate him with the Montanas and Bradys. I also think Green Bay’s entire defense should have won the MVP, if possible. Thanks to the award typically being reserved to one or two players, Rodgers gets it.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
# Davy Jones Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 10:20 pm
this ought to put a dent in the Rooney lovefest that’s been going on in here.
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Not remotely. Roethlisberger’s last pass is two feet lower, and the Rooney’s could very well be hoisting number 7 right now. They are still the class of the NFL, that’s just a fact. And, yes, I say that as a Raider fan. Roethlisberger was just off, and I give credit to GB’s defense, too.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
MB, I said Rodgers is overrated. He still is. He did not play a great game today. I don’t even have to see his stats to say it, but I’m sure they’d back it up. Rodgers failed to put the game away, had to settle for a FG. Overthrew it. Roethlisberger’s final pass is two feet lower, and it’s possible that Rodgers winds up a SB also-ran.
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You’re crazy. I posted this the other night and I’ve felt it for the better part of the last two seasons:
There’s not a QB in the league I’d rather have right now, particularly when you factor in age, than Aaron Rodgers. Extremely accurate. Great arm. Great mobility. Great decision-making. Fearless. No drop-off in his game when playoffs roll around. Now a SB champion and MVP in just his 3rd season as a starter.
If James Jones doesn’t drop that perfect, thread the needle pass and toss in just one more of the dropped passes and Rodgers throws for 400 tonight with 4 TDs … against the Steelers.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Chris….
Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Terry Bradshaw, and I’ll go out on a limb and say Jim Plunkett and Ken Stabler, all complete that pass in the corner of the end zone to close the deal, that Rodgers overthrew.
Remember, I said Rodgers is overrated. He is. I don’t think he’s going to win another Super Bowl.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Rodgers got the MVP because he threw 3 TDs and over 300 yards with no turnovers and a rating well north of 100.
Green Bay’s D is good, but they gave up 25 points to a pretty good but not spectacular Pittsburgh offense. Hardly MVP worthy. This wasn’t a run of the mill ‘just give the QB the MVP’ situation.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
And if you’re going to play “ifs”, Roethlisberger should be afforded the same advantage.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Rodgers overthrew that pass by maybe 6 inches. The ball hit the receiver’s hands. It’s not like he put it in the first row or something. How bout the throw he made to Jennings on 3rd and long to key that drive? That didn’t impress?
February 6th, 2011 at 10:38 pm
NFL’s a game of inches, Chris. I think Brady, Montana, or Stabler hit that.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Rogers was fairly Montana esque in the Falcons game. He didn’t stick the dagger in during the 4h and left it up to the D, I’ll give you that. And he definitely hurried some throws when there wasn’t pressure. But again, the drops: Greg Jennings dropped a td pass, nothing but green in front of him, right off his hands. As it was, Rogers did enough that his team never trailed and hung up 3 tds on the best D in football. Equals MVP.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
I think he’s overrated. That’s all I’m saying. My suspicions were confirmed when he missed that final throw, and GB had to settle for a field goal.
If Pittsburgh winds up scoring on their final drive, you have to blame Rodgers. Who else?
February 6th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Brady was mostly along for the ride in the Pats’ first SB. Got rocked in their latest appearance vs. NYG. Has bombed in his last two playoff appearances. Threw a pick to close out the AFC title game the year the Colts won it all. Great, sure. Not infallible.
Stabler lost quite a few to the Steelers back in the day.
Montana was tremendous and often considered the best QB in the history of the game.
All that aside, didn’t realize Rodgers was being elevated above those guys when you called him overrated. If that’s the case, maybe you have a case. But Rodgers didn’t even get voted into the Pro Bowl this year — even though he was clearly superior to Brees and Ryan — so I don’t think he’s been overrated much.
Yes, football is a game of inches. That’s why I’m so impressed with passes Rodgers makes like the 3rd down toss to Jennings. The first TD to Jennings. The should’ve been TD to Jones and numerous others the guy makes every game where he zips the ball into about a one square foot window with defenders all around for big gains.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
If Rodgers had hit that last throw, and closed the deal, I would have nothing to say other than to give him props and concede that he’s everything his supporters and the media (as if there’s a difference between the two) say he is. He didn’t close the deal. Green Bay’s D did. I don’t care what the numbers say. I watched the game. And when it came to crunch time, it was GB’s defense that stepped up, not Rodgers.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Oh, GB’s defense, and their kicker…
February 6th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
I think he’s overrated. That’s all I’m saying. My suspicions were confirmed when he missed that final throw, and GB had to settle for a field goal.
If Pittsburgh winds up scoring on their final drive, you have to blame Rodgers. Who else?
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Clearly the defense for allowing 32 points and not the QB who throws for over 300 yards, 3 TDs and has no turnovers against the fiercest pass rush in the league that knocked him down about 20x in the game.
Are you serious, bro?
February 6th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
I wonder how many of you downplaying Rodgers missing that last throw also blamed Gradkowski for the loss against Arizona, instead of Jano. Wasn’t the argument there that Gradkowski should have closed the deal and scored, and it shouldn’t have came down to Jano? Oh, yes it was. I saw a lot of it in here. I hope some of you aren’t the same people. I hope you’re not flip flopping now and saying that the QB, Rodgers in this case, did his job by merely getting them into field goal range…because if that’s the case, Gradkowski did his job, too. And that Arizona game was pivotal. We’re a playoff team with one additional win.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
I agree that Grads absolutely did his job in that AZ game. I’m one of the very few in here that still contends that Grads is a better QB than Campbell.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Chris, yes I’m serious! If the Steelers score on that final drive and win, do we not go back and look at Rodger’s overthrown pass in the end zone on GB’s previous drive? Just how far fetched do you think this scenario is? Roethlisberger’s final throw is 2 feet lower, and that drive is still on. Rodgers could have passed for 400 yards. If the Steelers score on that final drive, he still loses. I’d take a QB with 100 yards passing and a win over one with 400 yards passing and a loss.
February 6th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Chris please stop. It is entertaining sometimes to see what RMR comes up with out of his hat but is this argument worth it? Rodgers has just put himself as top 3 quarterbacks in the league and I would agree with you that I would take him over every other quarterback in the league right now, with Phillip Rivers coming in a close second (not factoring in age, I’d take Tom then Peyton, then Rodgers).
February 6th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
RMR,
So if Nelson makes a great catch on that last pass which did hit his hand, then Rodgers deserves all the praise. But because that ONE hookup was ever so slightly off, Rodgers is overrated and is getting too much credit? But the FG kicker deserves props for hitting one chip shot FG?
Don’t forget too that at least three GB drives were stopped in this game when WRs dropped passes on 3rd down. And GB still put up 31 on the Steelers. If those balls are caught, odds are GB puts the game out of reach earlier.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Chris, yes I’m serious! If the Steelers score on that final drive and win, do we not go back and look at Rodger’s overthrown pass in the end zone on GB’s previous drive? Just how far fetched do you think this scenario is? Roethlisberger’s final throw is 2 feet lower, and that drive is still on. Rodgers could have passed for 400 yards. If the Steelers score on that final drive, he still loses. I’d take a QB with 100 yards passing and a win over one with 400 yards passing and a loss.
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But your hypothetical scenario didn’t happen and Rodgers DID get the win. So I guess, going by our logic, you should think he’s awesome and the best QB around since he got the win in the Super Bowl then. Right?
February 6th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Correction, going by YOUR logic …
February 6th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
194.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Chris, yes I’m serious! If the Steelers score on that final drive and win, do we not go back and look at Rodger’s overthrown pass in the end zone on GB’s previous drive? Just how far fetched do you think this scenario is? Roethlisberger’s final throw is 2 feet lower, and that drive is still on. Rodgers could have passed for 400 yards. If the Steelers score on that final drive, he still loses. I’d take a QB with 100 yards passing and a win over one with 400 yards passing and a loss.
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So you’s take Campbell over K. Collins?
February 6th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Campbell over Collins isn’t much of a stretch.
Apparently, RMR would take Campbell over Rivers, Sanchez over Manning, Hasselbeck over Brees, etc.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:14 pm
The Packer ran like what, 12 run plays to beat the Steelers and Rodgers is overrated…right…looks like someone is desperate for attention again.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Rodgers did the exact same thing to the Steelers that Brady did to them a few weeks ago.
But Rodgers did it in the biggest stage.
Props.
Only 2 or 3 guys in the NFL can do that to the Steelers, especially when THEY KNEW IT WAS COMING for 2 weeks.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Absolutely atrocious movie starring Lyle Alzado on Starz right now, at least on the East Coast: “Neon City.” Just caught 90 seconds of it and can tell there are prob some horrible gems in there. But alas, time for me to crash. Later fellas.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
202.alex7 Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Rodgers did the exact same thing to the Steelers that Brady did to them a few weeks ago.
But Rodgers did it in the biggest stage.
Props.
Only 2 or 3 guys in the NFL can do that to the Steelers, especially when THEY KNEW IT WAS COMING for 2 weeks.
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Rich Gannon did it better.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Yes give Rodgers props but it’s not just him. GB is a tremendous organization top to bottom. Since 1994 (when Favre came into the league) they have only had ONE LOSING SEASON. You have one of the all time best in Favre and then replace him with a virtual unknown in Rodgers and he’s SB MVP in his 3rd yr. as starter.
Look at the way they rebuilt that defense too. Year after year after year Green Bay gets it done…PERIOD! They know what the heck they are doing EVERY YEAR. Who’s Mike McCarthy? Did anybody heare of him before he came to GB? Not many, but yet now he is HC of the SB Champions and widely acknowledged as the one of, if not THE top play caller in football.
Is it just circumstance that the year Ron Wolf was brought aboard with GB, they started a resurgence that is nothing short of remarkable? GB was NOTHING since the Lombardi era before Wolf and the year he comes on with GB, they start winning and have not looked back.
Whether it’s Ron Wolf, or whoever, Green Bay is a machine and is an org. to look at as a model of NFL success.
Someone (Al Davis) needs to take a look at what GB does cuz whatever they are doing, and have done since ‘94, IS WORKING.
February 6th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
Dj, maybe he is?
February 6th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Raider glory years had Ron Wolf around.
Raider’s recent best years had Bruce Allen around.
Al Davis needs a GM.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:03 am
Al Davis has a gm. Either its hererra or Al himself, or Al might not be sure, but Al is the gm. Make no mistake about that. Al did very well in the draft last year, thank you.
I’m Big Al and I approve this message.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:05 am
I built this team and brought the fans on board because of me, and I can ruin it if I want to cause I can. Or you can watch me bring the Raidahs back to greatness cause I can.
I’m Big Al and I approve this message.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:11 am
If we have a chance to draft players of sim grade what posisition would you pick for the 2011 Raiders, in the 2nd round?
Base DE
3tech UT
Speed DE
Heavy NG
RT
C
February 7th, 2011 at 12:15 am
Woodson appreciated the effort. While clutching the Lombardi trophy after the game, he spoke about his halftime speech. “I don’t think I’ve cried that much since I was drafted by the Oakland Raiders,” he said!
February 7th, 2011 at 12:37 am
A DT brought in would be 4th in depth-chart after Seymour, Kelly, and Bryant. I don’t see it as much of a need.
DE we’re set at as both Shaughnessy and Houston give us a pass rush and a strong 280+ presence vs run. Wimbley is backup/pass-rush specialist. Depth would be nice but I would prefer a starter w/ 2nd round pick.
I’m taking Titus Young (WR) or top RG/RT available. Hankerson dropped too many during Senior Bowl practices (body catching like DHB). Imagine Young and Ford as our version of Desean and Maclin.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:40 am
Chris, YOU NAILED IT!
If Rodgers had made that last throw, I’d have nothing but praise for him. I said so much earlier, you can scroll up and see for yourself. But he didn’t. He didn’t put the game way, so I can’t list him amongst the Super Bowl’s great QBs. Evidently the media, and the so many sports fans hard up for an “All American” hero, can, however. To each their own. Our country’s going through rough times and Americans need a bigger than life NFL QB, and in that regard the timing for Rodgers couldn’t be better. But I don’t think he belongs to that special, elite fraternity of great SB QB’s. I saw a good QB today, I didn’t see a great. A great makes that TD pass and puts Pittsburgh out of their misery.
BTW, to analyze the pass, I’ve watched the replay several times. Yes, it hit Nelson’s hand. Albeit, too hard. Rodgers didn’t put enough of a touch on it. Face it. And, he didn’t do so because he was in fact nervous, and rushed the throw. He got a little jittery and just pushed that thing a little too hard. They called Montana “Joe Cool” for a reason. And it was because he was cool at the most clutch moments, and in the most clutch games, like the SB.
And, I’ll emphasize this point again. It involves an if, albeit, one tiny if, considering this was a ONE SCORE GAME. If, I humbly admit, if, Roethliberger completes his last pass, that drive continues, and Pittsburgh possibly scores…TO WIN THE GAME. That’s not a far fetched scenario. There was plenty of time to run a few more plays. And if that had happened, and, again, it’s not a far fetched scenario, in fact, it’s two feet away from being given a standing chance, would it not be warranted to look at Rodger’s missed TD pass on his previous drive? IT WOULD BE KEY!! Outright, mother flippin KEY! Any respectable analyst, fan, journalist, otherwise, would just be mind numbingly naive or disingenuous to not deem it a major factor in Green Bay’s loss.
Rodgers is a hero only because the Steelers’ offense just can’t get it done on their final drive. If they do, Rodgers is today’s definitive choker.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:40 am
Only 2 or 3 guys in the NFL can do that to the Steelers, especially when THEY KNEW IT WAS COMING for 2 weeks.
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I disagree Alex. The Pats, Saints and Packers are all finesse, passing teams with either/ both an abundance of talent at WR and great pass protection. Agressive, spread offenses.
Teams like this are a nightmare for the Steelers, whose DBs look like garbage against the Bruises of the world. Just like boxing, styles make fights. It’ll never just be about the QB. Teams win games, not QBs.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:55 am
Honestly, even after today, I’d take Roethlisberger as my starter over Rodgers.
Ben was not himself today. This was not the Ben Roethlisberger I’ve watched in recent years, and I’m referring to his mental approach.
What Steelers fans hoped was sort of a quiet confidence over the past week in Ben turned out to be what I think was a guilt stricken soul who knows that most men would probably be in jail for what he did (even if there were no rape, just for the accusations and no means of legal defense). He looked as if he didn’t belong in that game, not because of his skill, but because of his fate. These overthrown balls were just out of character for him. I think his early INT was a ball he forced, uncharacteristically. Not hurling a ball down the sideline into a 2 man under is quarterbacking 101. High school QBs know better than to do it. The near safety can crawl over to make the pick. The middle of the field is the weakness in any cover 2, especially the 2 man under GB was in on that play, where there’s typically a 10 yard window between the secondary and front 7.
Ben was not only making mistakes today, he was making rookie mistakes. His QB play for the most part was infantile, which would lead me to believe that he were bum…if this were his first season. But it’s not. We know Ben is a great QB, and we know why he played this way today. And, he’s faced tougher defenses. Statistically Green Bay’s good but I think Ben faced a more aggressive, tougher defense his previous game.
Ben’s got personal issues that he needs to put behind him. And, when he does, he’ll go back to being something that Rodgers is still striving to be, on of the NFL’s great post season quarterbacks.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:55 am
I also forgot to mention, yesterday was the birthday of one of the single most important people in world history. He was a true speaker, and someone full of conviction and leadership. Without him, the world would certainly be worse today than what it is. I’m speaking of Bob Marley. Rest in peace, great one.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:02 am
worst combination of National Anthem and half-time show;
sound techs should be fired;
those who chose C. Agulerra should be fired.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:08 am
Madden
Big Ben played like he usually does. HE is overrated. The guy makes some lucky plays once in a while. He plays ugly and is not precise.
The throw Ben made to Santonio Holmes to win the Super Bowl against Arizona was a tougher catch than Rodger’s throw to Nelson. Your argument does not hold water in that context.
The Packers lost their best WR for the game and had Jordy in there who dropped at least 4 passes, most of them big gainers.
They also lost Woodson. And they won.
Better team and better QB than Big Ben.
All this junk about redemption for Big Ben is garbage. He choked in this game. No redemption with 2 picks and and bunch of junkie throws.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:09 am
Alex I like the way you are thinking with the combination of Young and Mr. Ford, even though they are somewhat similar, they would somehwat remind me of Dolphins’ Duper & Clayton, plus each can return KOs so if one goes down, the other can step right in.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:10 am
Aaron Rodgers had like 2 or 3 throws that we off target. He was right on target all day and got the ball out of there in a hurry. There were at least 5 drops and he threw the ball away a couple of times due to pressure.
The guy is a great QB. Better than Brett Favre.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:10 am
This Rothlesburger’s 2nd sorry a$$, lousy Super Bowl only the refs didn’t bail his sorry, overrated butt this year.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:13 am
All the guys on ESPN saying that Ben should be in the hall of fame if he won this game. What a crock.
The guy has had the best D in the NFL plus The Bus and a monster O line.
The guy is a fat chump who plays like a schoolyard garbage time scrambler.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:15 am
I have to laugh at his self centered attempts to link a possible super bowl win to his own redemption.
They were 3-1 without him. I hate his false modesty and his fake redemption attitude.
The guy is a chump and no way he has changed his ways in 8 months. He only is playing the good guy so he doesn’t lose the ability to play ball.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:17 am
Whenever I see Big Ben on TV and see his fat ugly head and disgusting pasty complexion with giant warts and grubby beard and think of the poor girls he has taken down in a dirty toilet stall, I almost puke.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:23 am
2nd round pick, I would go with the best player on the board, we need an impact player that will start.
would love to move up 40 – 45 spots and get Von Miller or Kerrigan, realistic though
I see Raiders getting one of:
Jimmy Smith CB, CO
Wisneiwski, C, Penn St
Bruce Carter, LB, UNC
Austin, DT, UNC (if Henderson retires before the draft)
in fact any of the top UNC defensive players on the board would be ab excellent draft pick in the 2nd round
note: not that far-fetched>
Newton or Locker (I could see one of these falling to the 2nd round)
February 7th, 2011 at 2:25 am
speaking of Carolina, the Panthers are on the clock!
at least we have the draft to look forward to should we not have an NFL season starting late summer
February 7th, 2011 at 2:29 am
Aaron Rogers put the game away first part of the 3rd quarter, but Jones dropped a sure TD catch, that would have put GB up 28-10 and suck what momentum Pittsburg had gained with that late TD just before the half right out with Fergi’s sound system.
February 7th, 2011 at 3:58 am
The steelers did not get lucky yesterday like their last two SB victories.
I picked packers and over but missed the final score. I had 53
February 7th, 2011 at 4:17 am
My pick was … Pack 31… Steelers….27….
The halftime show sucked…The Blackeyed peas are just an overated
techno disco rap group.. Usher?.. Pfttttt…
Give me a good Rock, funk band anyday…
February 7th, 2011 at 4:20 am
Chris in NY Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
I agree that Grads absolutely did his job in that AZ game. I’m one of the very few in here that still contends that Grads is a better QB than Campbell.
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Grads did enough to win the AZ game, but his failure to call a time out can’t be overlooked.
Yeah, the play was late coming in, and that’s Hue’s fault – but Grads should have called the time out.
Having said that, there’s no doubt in my mind that Grads is better than JaJason.
In fact, it’s not even close.
Of course, that’s not saying much.
Because….
JaJason sucks.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:24 am
Christina sings the national anthem better than JaJason plays QB.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:41 am
Christina has an very powerful voice…. Her problem yesterday was she trys to over sing… Had she just sang the anthem ” straight ” I believe she’d have nailed it… But the Blackeyed peas?.. Just overated… The game was very entertaining… The halftime show was painful to watch…unless you like Techno disco groups…..
February 7th, 2011 at 5:15 am
The Black Eyed Peas are not techno or disco. Just trite pop music.
If Gradkowski was a better QB than Campbell, his record as a starter would reflect that. It doesn’t, blown field goals aside.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:21 am
They had the Who and Bruce Springstein the last two years at halftime, and people mocked them for how awful they were.
At least the music we heard yesterday wasn’t 25 years old.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:28 am
JUST FIRE..sure it was. Sweet Child is about 25 years old now…and FERGIE couldn’t even come close to hitting the notes…….
February 7th, 2011 at 5:31 am
JUST FIRE…at least the Who and Bruce actually play instruments and sing, instead of mumbling, and they do it without an “auto tuner”.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:31 am
I’m sure Axel can’t hit the notes anymore either.
What should she have done, lip sync it? Everyone gets mad and calls it “techno” and all this, than they bring out a great guitarist and a singer is actually singing live, and still hatred.
Did the Who sound great last year? Could you even understand Springstein two years ago?
Live music often sounds like crap.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:34 am
That’s what sells records today Copenhagen.
I’m no huge Peas fan or anything, just thought they did THEIR music well, which is what they were asked to do.
And for the record, they absolutely are techno music. Will I Am signed a huge deal with Intel last week as some type of Director of Creative design or something.
Doesn’t get any more techno, than actually working for a technology company, lol.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:44 am
I don’t know which was more revolting, Christine Aguilera’s rendition of the national anthem, or the sight of the smirking chimp, George W. Bush, in the stands.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:50 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 10:29 am
2) DT/NT Phil Taylor (Baylor) or OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State)
3) OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin) or LB Casey Matthews (Oregon)
4) OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida) or DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
5) C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock)
6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
7) WR Ricardo Lockette (Ford Valley State) or RB Robert Hughes (Notre Dame)
Then attempt to bring Miller, Asomugha, Seymour, Wimbley, Huff, Routt, Bush, Reece, Condo and Cartwright all back into the fold.
If Huff walks, sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.
If Bush walks, sign Le’Ron McClain or bring in a rookie.
If Asomugha walks, sign Jonathan Joseph.
If Routt walks, sign Richard Marshall.
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too bad this is not a “Raiders offseason moves” write up…
nice way to hijack…
February 7th, 2011 at 6:12 am
Some people really just has to learn to sit back and relax…
Fergie ruined Sweet Child of Mine? Really?
I’ve heard that Christina forgot the words to the National Anthem…I don’t know…have to rewatch that one…
But every where yesterday were people online complaining about something that we cannot control!
Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride…this days society really has become revolting in the complainers that it has become!
February 7th, 2011 at 6:16 am
And on that note…Good Morning Nation!!!
February 7th, 2011 at 6:18 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. WELL SAID HWNRDR.PUSH A BUTTON ON THE REMOTE AND CHANGE THE CHANNEL IF U DONT LIKE WHAT UR WATCHING….GOOD GAME..NOT GREAT.SAME WITH COMMERCIAL’S.
February 7th, 2011 at 6:21 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…yeah, the commercials weren’t all that, but i did like the Bud Light one where the remodel of the kitchen was just a bucket of Bud Light…there were a few more, just can’t think of it now…
February 7th, 2011 at 6:24 am
If Huff walks, sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.
If Bush walks, sign Le’Ron McClain or bring in a rookie.
If Asomugha walks, sign Jonathan Joseph.
If Routt walks, sign Richard Marshall.
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Jarrad Page? Meh. Eric Weddle and Dashon Goldson are both free agents and, in my book at least, are better options.
Jonathan Joseph is either going to be franchised or re-signed by Cincy.
Richard Marshall, however, would make about the best replacement for Nnamdi you’re going to find on the FA market.
Ike Taylor wouldn’t be a bad guy to have…he was the only Steelers DB yesterday who looked like he gave a damn. Although I think that’s precisely the reason the Steelers won’t let him get away.
I think the idea I’ve seen floated of Champ Bailey is a pipe dream.
I think Marshall, Routt and CJ could be a decent enough group to get by with while we see what WMcFadden and Ware can bring in their 2nd years.
February 7th, 2011 at 6:27 am
Did the Who sound great last year? Could you even understand Springstein two years ago?
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I actually thought Bruce did pretty well two years back. No disagreements on The Who last year though. Just embarrassing.
The Black Eyed Peas aren’t my cup of tea, but I’ll give them big props for actually singing. I was pretty sure they’d be lip syncing.
February 7th, 2011 at 6:33 am
AD: Herrera. Where in the hell is that guy?
H: Yes, Mr. Davis.
AD: I want you to set up a three way with me, Fergie, and that Christine Aguilera, chick. She was so hot screwin up the national anthem. Tell them I’ll floss my teeth and change the band aid on my forehead.
H: Can I make it a foursome, Mr. Davis.
AD; Hell no. Maybe John Madden is available.
February 7th, 2011 at 6:39 am
OK, how did she screw up the National Anthem? I’m sorry…i didn’t see how she did that…
Anyways, PA, you’re right in saying that Ike talor was the only one who looked like he gave a dam…and my thing on Charles Woodson was why was he on Mike Wallace on that play that got him hurt?
February 7th, 2011 at 6:42 am
GREAT MINDS ARE STILL TRY’N 2 FIGURE OUT HOW AGUILERA COULD STAND UP WITHOUT FALLING FORWARD WITH 400 LBS OF RED LIPSTICK ON HER FACE..
February 7th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Okay, like I said earlier, I’ve been trying to get a bead on Veldheer and I think I’ve managed to do so.
Let’s start with the negatives:
-Not quick enough off the snap in pass protection. To me, this is his #1 flaw. It’s why speed rushers like Cameron Wake had their way with him this year.
-He needs to sink his hips and bend his knees better. That’s critical for every offensive tackle, but especially one who’s 6′9″. Otherwise, rushers can get in under his pads and walk him backwards.
-He ends up on the ground way too much. Not what you want to see out of an offensive lineman. Also throws some of the worst cut blocks I’ve ever seen.
Now the good news:
-Very strong initial punch. With one quick thrust of his arms, he can rock a defensive lineman back on his heels.
-Great downfield blocking. Good agility and takes good angles, thus rarely missing an opportunity to take a shot at an opposing player.
-I love the way in pass protection that he can ride his man away from the QB and out of the play entirely. He doesn’t tend use his strength to toss guys around, rather he uses that strength and good technique to keep them walled off.
-Never gives up on a play. That sounds dumb, but how many times have we seen offensive linemen kinda just jogging downfield, pretending to be looking for someone to hit or when beat in pass protection kinda wave their arms as they stand there looking stupid. (See: Henderson, Mario) Even when he’s beat, Veldheer doesn’t quit and fights to the last and like I mentioned above, he’s always trying to find someone to block in the running game. I like that attitude. He’s a battler.
-I never saw him get beat by the same move twice in a game, though I admit I could have very well missed something. That tells me he learns from mistakes.
To me, the encouraging thing is that all the flaws I mentioned can be easily corrected with good coaching. Coming from a Division II school to play against the best in the world, I think he did a good job and showed huge potential. If Wylie and Wiz can bring him along, I don’t think there’s any doubt Al found himself a franchise left tackle in the 3rd round last year.
February 7th, 2011 at 6:48 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 6:42 am
GREAT MINDS ARE STILL TRY’N 2 FIGURE OUT HOW AGUILERA COULD STAND UP WITHOUT FALLING FORWARD WITH 400 LBS OF RED LIPSTICK ON HER FACE..
Good One…I was thinking something else… LOL
February 7th, 2011 at 6:57 am
I know I say this every year but this is going to be a long offseason and for some reason it feels like its going to be a LOOOONG one…
Come on Goodell, right this thing!
February 7th, 2011 at 7:02 am
Aint Goodell that has to get it righted. The owners have to suck it up and come to terms with the players.
I loved the shining example of NFL greed on display for the world to see last night… “Hey we know we sold you a ticket to the Super Bowl, but… those seats arent really available, but we have this beautiful standing area outside the stadium that you can watch on TV”
February 7th, 2011 at 7:11 am
I know it ain’t Goodell but he is the one trying to get this thing going…
And yeah, that part was stupid…and all those fans outside bearing the cold to watch the game on tv…how much did they pay?
February 7th, 2011 at 7:23 am
good morning nation,
s&bpa i agree with your assessment of veldheer, i yhink the easiest way to overcome them is move him back to center, perfect fit it seems to me…
February 7th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Perry or Moss?
February 7th, 2011 at 7:26 am
Now that GB won…you think it would be harder to get them?
February 7th, 2011 at 7:30 am
a few things to think about:
#1 Aaron Rodgers was getting hit like crazy. His O-Line didn’t play a championship level game. I think Nelson, Jones & Swain combined for like 7 drops, too!
I hope Al Davis & Hue Jackson weren’t watching the game …
Jason Campbell with that same supporting cast would have been lucky to put up 3 points on offense, even with the Squeeler turnovers (besides Collins pick-six)
February 7th, 2011 at 7:39 am
id watch christina aguilar over some washed up ex gnr singer or an old fart who singer anyday of the year….
February 7th, 2011 at 7:39 am
#2 for those of you blaming the run defense solely on guys like reserve DT John Henderson & OLB Groves:
Groves is better than Erik Walden & Frank Zombo.
Henderson is better than Howard Green.
When you have injuries or a so-called “weak link” the other players step up so you don’t even notice the other guys in there. The style of defense also plays a huge factor. the Packers aggressive 3-4 doesn’t rely so heavily on guys winning 1-on-1 match ups
February 7th, 2011 at 7:48 am
Now that GB won…you think it would be harder to get them?
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LA & Hwnrdr,
Moss and Perry may stick around and try to repeat with all this “dynasty” talk being thrown around … but everybody has a price and Al Davis is one cheap SOB
the Eagles may steal away one of them
February 7th, 2011 at 7:53 am
Morning Nation!
Hey RR, didn’t the Eagles already sign a DC? I wonder what teams are still searching for a DC?
February 7th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Pittsburgh gave the game away.
3 turnovers that GB turned into 21 points was the difference.
And each turnover was at a key point in the game.
The Nick Collins pick 7.
Then, Pitt kicks the FG to make it 14-3, GB follows with a 3 and out and Pitt’s offense gets to GB’s 49 after starting from their own 12….then comes the 2nd Int. and GB starts at their 47 and turns into another TD….21-3.
Then the game is 21-17 and Pitt is dominating…they have a 1st and 10 at GB’s 29, Pitt calls 3 straight passes and ends up losing 5 yards, on 4th and 15 from GB’s 34, a missed FG…..Pitt absolutely botched that drive.
GB follows with 2 straight 3 and outs, punts out of their end zone.
Finally, still a 21-17 game, Pitt gets the ball at GB’s 41, Mendenhall runs for 8 yards, Pitt is at GB’s 33 yard line with 2nd and 2….and Mendenhall fumbles, GB gets the ball at their own 45 and scores another TD.
February 7th, 2011 at 7:57 am
Bob Marley Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Pittsburgh gave the game away.
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Green Bays defense won the game, period.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:00 am
good morning forget the steelers rhe black eyed peas lost the super bowl!
February 7th, 2011 at 8:00 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
Was there a game yesterday?
February 7th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Thank you because that is exactly what happened! Take away those 3, Pitt wins their 7th! Although…not complaining…but i don’t know about a dynasty! Isn’t that waht they said in 97 also?
February 7th, 2011 at 8:01 am
After watching that Packers defense; I want either Perry or Moss as our DC and Casey Matthews in the 2nd or 3rd round. We need to generate turnovers like that.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:02 am
More thoughts:
Aaron Rodgers is definitely great, nobody out there can match the velocity and accuracy he puts on his throws.
Almost no pre-snap movement from Pitt’s to confuse Rodgers, they mostly lined up, got in their stance and waited for the snap, I felt they needed to stand up and move around more.
Almost forgot another key play…
It’s 21-17 with Pitt at GB’s 44 and Ben misses a wide open Wallace running into the end zone.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Coaching search??
Shhh…Al’s on the phone.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:06 am
RRS,
Both those guys want a promotion. Moss was openly talking about in the days leadin up to the SB.
At least one is as good as gone.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:07 am
VW little kid as darth vader best superbowl commercial
February 7th, 2011 at 8:09 am
“Carl Weathers Says:
Green Bays defense won the game, period.”
They certainly did their part and the pick-7 was all on GB’s defense, with the pass-rush getting to Ben and Nick Collins making a great play.
But Pitt still moved the ball to the tune of 387 total yards and should have scored more points.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Christina Aguilera Botches National Anthem at Super Bowl, Admits Mistake.who was strangling tne cat?
February 7th, 2011 at 8:10 am
That was a great ball game…especially for non-fans of either team.
Rodgers deserved the MVP award…he carried his team, no doubt. I don’t know how many more times he could’ve done what he was doing, he was brilliantly accurate most of the game. I found meself almost hoping to see Pittsburgh score again, to see if there was more in Rodgers’ tank.
Very entertaining game, with lots of sub-plots as to why the score ended up the way it did. Had Pittsburgh scored one more TD, it would’ve been one of the all-time greats.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:11 am
“Carl Weathers Says:
Green Bays defense won the game, period.”
They certainly did their part and the pick-7 was all on GB’s defense, with the pass-rush getting to Ben and Nick Collins making a great play.
But Pitt still moved the ball to the tune of 387 total yards and should have scored more points.
…………….the team that scores the most points doesnt always win!
February 7th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Still, it was a nice game and since I made a small profit I can’t complain.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:15 am
phatcable Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 8:11 am
the team that scores the most points doesnt always win!
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Uhmm…..I’m pretty sure they always do.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:15 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 7:11 am
I know it ain’t Goodell but he is the one trying to get this thing going…
And yeah, that part was stupid…and all those fans outside bearing the cold to watch the game on tv…how much did they pay?
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$250.00 No joke. People actually paid $250 to watch the game on a big tv outside the stadium.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Tom Cables’ Seahawks have signed ex-Raiders, Paul McQuistan and Jay Alford.
Interesting they would bring in McQ when Cable let him walk last year.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:16 am
NFL offers free tickets to next Super Bowl to compensate 400 fans
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 7, 2011, 10:42 AM EST
The 400 fans who were forced to watch Super Bowl XLV on TV because their tickets were for temporary seating in Cowboys Stadium that never got finished will get in to Super Bowl XLVI for free.
That was revealed this morning by NFL PR guy Brian McCarthy, who’s trying to put the best spin possible on what the NFL is doing for the fans whose $800 tickets weren’t honored.
“The 400 fans w/out seats last nite went on field postgame, received free merchandise, food, beverage, $2,400, free SB46 tix,” McCarthy tweeted.
I would hope the NFL is also planning to fly the fans to Indianapolis and take care of their accommodations at next year’s Super Bowl. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if most of the 400 fans don’t want to go to next year’s Super Bowl
February 7th, 2011 at 8:17 am
Bob Marley Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Still, it was a nice game and since I made a small profit I can’t complain.
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Congrats! I cashed out today, thanks Packers!
February 7th, 2011 at 8:18 am
How about this guy hitting on every bet?.
Congratulations man.
“mack-madden Says:
February 6th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
My bet is over 45.5.
Prop bet = mike Wallace will catch a pass for +20yd gain.
No kick/punt return TDs.
For fun I bet a Defensive TD.”
February 7th, 2011 at 8:19 am
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 8:15 am
$250.00 No joke. People actually paid $250 to watch the game on a big tv outside the stadium.
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WOW! I wouldn’t pay $250 to watch it live! Actually I paid $200 to see the Stones a few years ago so I probably would ;^), but paying to watch TV OUTSIDE???
February 7th, 2011 at 8:19 am
Cable let him walk last year
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Cabes did?
nah. Al Davis did!
February 7th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Reasons GB won:
1. Aaron Rodgers
2. James HarrisGonE
3. Rashard MendenhFUMBal
4. Troy PolamalWHO?
February 7th, 2011 at 8:22 am
assuming there is a superbowl next year
February 7th, 2011 at 8:24 am
I wonder what Chuck Woodson would have done if Scott Wells went MIA prior to SB45 ???
February 7th, 2011 at 8:25 am
There better be a friggin season next year!! I already have plans to see the Raiders, just waiting on the dates to be announced!
February 7th, 2011 at 8:25 am
$250 to watch a big screen tv? And what…$100 for parking? Geez…you’re right about greed Bcz24!
February 7th, 2011 at 8:26 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 8:24 am
I wonder what Chuck Woodson would have done if Scott Wells went MIA prior to SB45 ???
LMAO!
February 7th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Cowboys Stadium fails to set the Super Bowl record for attendance
Posted by Mike Florio on February 7, 2011, 1:46 AM EST
It widely was presumed that Super Bowl XLV, the first NFL title game played in Cowboys Stadium, would break the NFL single-game attendance record of 103,985.
It didn’t happen.
The official attendance, including those who weren’t actually inside the building but watching the game on outdoor HD monitors, was 103,215.
The temporary-seat snafu apparently didn’t prevent the record from being set, since only 400 fans were displaced. It’s unclear whether those 400 fans opted to join the outdoor-indoor Party Pass crowd
February 7th, 2011 at 8:31 am
the fact that al passed on aaron rodgers in 2006 to draft fabian washington blows me away. and is proof that successful teams win with good coaching and even greater management.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:32 am
The official attendance, including those who weren’t actually inside the building but watching the game on outdoor HD monitors…………….what no 3D
February 7th, 2011 at 8:37 am
the fact that al passed on aaron rodgers in 2006 to draft fabian washington blows me away
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it does?
I’m not surprised!
Al Davis LOVES corners with speed
February 7th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Al: Winston, how are you? Al Davis.
Moss: Mr. Davis, hi. Good to talk to you again.
Al: Congratulations on beating the Steelers for me, son. Buncha p*ssies they are over there.
Moss: Uh, ha, yeah. Um, my pleasure.
Al: Say, how would you feel about being the defensive play-callah for the Oakland Raidahs, fella?
Moss: Well, I would be– um, play-caller? Is that like coordinator?
Al: More or less.
Moss: (pause) What does it pay?
Al: Take whatever you make now, subtract 50 grand.
Moss: Mr. Davis, you can’t expect–
Al: All the cole slaw and cheeseburgers you can eat. Plus you have the priveledge of working with some of the finest players in all of football.
Moss: (pause) Nnamdi staying?
Al: Ah, I gave that kid everything he ever asked for. I could have two or three players for what I was paying him. I’m bringing in some real talented guys back into the fold to step in for him. Of course you know Stewart Schweigert, right?
Click.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:40 am
vodpod.com/watch/5296240-beer-filling-up-through-bott…
February 7th, 2011 at 8:42 am
http://www.wikio.com/video/beers-filling-bottom-4830676
February 7th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Hwnrdr,
apparently we’re the only 2 guys who know who Scott Wells is …
February 7th, 2011 at 8:48 am
LOL…I guess so, huh? And the reference to it…However, it is Monday morning…
February 7th, 2011 at 8:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Hwnrdr,
apparently we’re the only 2 guys who know who Scott Wells is …
…………………..BEANIE
February 7th, 2011 at 8:49 am
I just read this and hadn’t heard it before… Hey Jer, whats up?!
~Raiders new head coach Hue Jackson had hoped to interview New York Jets secondary coach Dennis Thurman for the Raiders’ defensive coordinator opening but was denied permission, according to news reports.~
February 7th, 2011 at 8:51 am
so all the staff is missing is a QB Coach & DC, right?
we all feel that Moss or Perry could be the next Raiders DC, btu what about QB Coach?
Jim Zorn, Danny Southwick, John DeFilippo ???
How about Jason Brooks or Craig Ver Steeg from Baltimore?
Bob Bratkowski from Cincy?
February 7th, 2011 at 8:53 am
JFB,
can you imagine Bratkowski coaching up your boy Gradkowski ???
February 7th, 2011 at 8:53 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 8:51 am
so all the staff is missing is a QB Coach & DC, right?
we all feel that Moss or Perry could be the next Raiders DC, btu what about QB Coach?
Jim Zorn, Danny Southwick, John DeFilippo ???
How about Jason Brooks or Craig Ver Steeg from Baltimore?
Bob Bratkowski from Cincy?
……………..RICH GANNON QB COACH..Adam Schefter D/C
February 7th, 2011 at 8:54 am
D Smooth.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:00 am
RICH GANNON QB COACH..Adam Schefter D/C
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Adam Schefter probably gets paid more doing what he does. plus he hates Al Davis
… but if he were hired as DC that would be a testament to Al Davis still runs the Defense, as rumors swirl every year about that and Jhill shoots them down
Rich Gannon might welcome a coaching gig in Oakland … once Al Davis steps down or well, you know
February 7th, 2011 at 9:03 am
What would Rich Gannon have been without Al Davis and coaches like Gruden, Trestman & Callahan ???
He’d be competing with Tui for a job at Lady FootLocker
February 7th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Update: 2011 NFL Mock Draft: Ricky Stanzi, Impressing Early at Senior Bowl A Mid Round Steal For 49ers or Raiders?
2011 NFL Mock Drafts have Ricky Stanzi projected as a mid-round pick. He is in the process of raising some eyebrows at the Senior Bowl. He would certainly be an intriguing pick for the Raiders and 49ers, who are both in need of a QB roster infusion.
The Senior Bowl is as much about the practices as it is the games. Scouts watch every pass with great attention. Wes Bunting of the National Football Post has been covering the Senior Bowl practices and had to say about Stanzi:
Overall, he’s the one quarterback on the North roster who seems to always be in control of his surroundings, does a nice job of deciphering information quickly and has the kind of ball placement and arm strength needed to make him one of the more intriguing QB prospects in this year’s draft. Looks like a guy with starting potential at the next level that could be had for a bargain in the mid rounds. It’s been a very good week for Stanzi in Mobile.
If this assessment is anywhere near accurate, one of our fine Bay Area teams needs to snap this guy up if he is still available in the mid-rounds. The Raiders have a horrible track record at developing their own QB talent, but if they have a head coach who has spent time as a QB coach and an offensive mastermind/stickler for details in Al Saunders as an offensive coordinator.
The 49ers are also in a position to take a flier on a project QB. While they could certainly use someone more starter ready, they have room to let their ex-QB head coach groom a youngster.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:07 am
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