Next up for Raiders _ finding a D-coordinator
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, February 7th, 2011 at 9:02 am in Oakland Raiders.
Lost amid the postgame revelry at Cowboys stadium Sunday was the following message over the P.A. system:
“Darren Perry, you have a call. Please use the silver and black courtesy telephone . . . ”
Perry finally found one, only to see Winston Moss got there first.
OK, I made that up.
Perry and Moss are both believed be coaches of interest as Hue Jackson looks to fill out his staff, with no hard evidence other than a previous link to the organization. There are also defensive coordinator openings in Arizona and Tennessee, with Philadelphia switching offensive line coach Juan Castillo to defensive coordinator last week.
Perry coached safeties for the Raiders in 2007-08. Moss was a Los Angeles Raider from 1991-94 and has interviewed for the club’s head coaching position with Al Davis and at that time publicly expressed his interest in working for Al Davis.
During Super Bowl week, Perry brushed aside inquiries about moving up to a coordinator’s spot, while Moss at one point seemed open to the possibility of the Philadelphia opening before Castillo was hired.
Negotiations could not take place during Super Bowl week, but chances are any team that was interested in either man made some sort of contact through agents to gauge a level of interest. The same goes for two Pittsburgh assistants _ defensive backs coach Ray Horton and linebackers coach Keith Butler.
Both the Packers and Steelers run 3-4 systems heavy on zone blitzing. During an interview with a Fresno area radio station last week, Jackson dodged a direct question from Lorenzo Neal about what system the Raiders will run.
A couple of things point to the Raiders continuing with a 4-3. Defensive line coach Mike Waufle, currently the shining star of the Raiders’ staff, has been almost exclusively a 4-3 coach. The Raiders two best young talents along the defensive front, Matt Shaughnessy and Lamarr Houston, would be better in a 4-3 than a 3-4, and scheme is all about the best use of talent.
Shaughnessy is a natural 4-3 end, about three sacks and a winning record away from being a Pro Bowl candidate. Houston showed he can play left end in a 4-3, but his true calling may eventually be as a three-technique defensive tackle _ a role he could lay this year in the unlikely event of Richard Seymour leaving via free agency when a collective bargaining agreement is reached. In a 3-4, Houston is too small for the nose.
The ideal move for a defensive coordinator comes when he has some say over the rest of the defensive staff and brings in his own philosophy. That wouldn’t necessarily be the case in Oakland.
That’s not to say Perry and/or Moss aren’t looking for a chance to move up and are intrigued enough by Jackson and some of Oakland’s defensive talent to give it serious consideration.
SUPER BOWL NOTES
– Got it wrong again. Had the Steelers winning, 23-17, but can’t say I was unhappy to see Aaron Rodgers prevail over Ben Roethlisberger. Was also glad to see Charles Woodson get a ring, although the broken collarbone just before halftime reminded me of some of his injury-plagued seasons with the Raiders.
There’s a lot of Woodson stuff in Peter King’s Monday Morning Quarterback, including an exchange where King asked “what Al Davis might be saying tonight.”
Replied Woodson: “I should have never let him get out of here.”
In hindsight, absolutely. But face it, Woodson grew up as a professional in Green Bay in a way that never happened in Oakland. The Packers were the only team willing to ante up the kind of money the Raiders had been paying him.
– You wonder whether anyone got together with officials before hand with instructions to “let them play” or of it just worked out that way. But it was refreshing to see instances of minor contact in the secondary ignored. No pass interference, no cheap illegal contact first downs.
– The world champions will be on the Raiders’ schedule, although it won’t be determined for a couple of months at least when they’ll visit Lambeau Field.
With road games at Green Bay, Buffalo, Kansas City and Denver, the possibility exists for some frigid December games. (I’m assuming Minnesota will be back indoors next season).
– The Raiders may never have a passing game like Green Bay, but they can win playing an offensive style similar to Pittsburgh. The Steelers may well have won the Super Bowl had it not been for Rashard Mendenhall’s lost fumble.
That’s not to say Green Bay wasn’t a deserving winner. Rodgers’ passing numbers were amazing considering four potential first-down passes were drops and he missed a couple of open receivers with throws he usually makes.
– About the commercials . . . I don’t care. Never have.
– This year’s Super Bowl meal attraction at my house _ hickory smoked Turkey breast, soaked in a brine of apple juice, water, Kosher salt, brown sugar, maple syrup, sliced apples, sliced lemons, oregano and lemon pepper for 24 hours. Enough left over for a couple of days of sandwiches.
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February 7th, 2011 at 9:03 am
1st!
February 7th, 2011 at 9:06 am
1ST AND A 1/2
February 7th, 2011 at 9:09 am
There are also defensive coordinator openings in Arizona and Tennessee
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oh snap!
Keith Butler to AZ & Darren Perry to TN
that leaves us with Winston Moss as DC and Kevin Greene will be promoted in GB from OLB Coach to just LB Coach (also taking on Winston’s ILB squad)
February 7th, 2011 at 9:13 am
AL is waiting too see if pittsburgh fires their d/c after yesterdays lose.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:15 am
al should hire a defensive co-ordinator and pay him more than the head coach !
February 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
whats up Fat Kidd?
when did you change your name to phat cable?
February 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Either Moss or Perry would do a fine job as a defensive coordinator. I would love to see Oakland incorporate a zone blitzing scheme in a 3-4 defense, however I don’t believe they have the personnel to make that switch.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
Winston Moss for president
February 7th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Haha…Dick LeBeau isn’t going anywhere…
February 7th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Not only is Winston Moss the Inside LB coach, he also holds the title, assistant HC.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Not only is Winston Moss the Inside LB coach, he also holds the title, assistant HC.
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which is why some semi-pros in here question whether or not the DC job in Oakland is actually a promotion?
February 7th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Darren Perry seems like Al’s kinda guy…
from totalpackers.com:
Perry was outed as one of Northampton County’s (Virginia) biggest delinquent taxpayers.
Perry owes the county $14,140.21 for unpaid real-estate taxes over the past two years. Perry has not paid his $7,070.21 annual real-estate tax bills in each of the past two years. He also owes $2,029.50 in delinquent personal property taxes for 2007 and $880.13 in personal-property taxes for 2008.
Perry hasn’t commented on the situation.
At least he isn’t in the news for not paying child support.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:38 am
RR, I agree with you that Butler will be the DC of the Cardinals…
February 7th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I’d LIKE to see Moss and have the best front 7 in football.
I think we NEED Perry to clean up the confusion in the secondary.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:45 am
CW,
Darren Perry = Timothy Geithner (United States Secretary of the Treasury) ???
February 7th, 2011 at 9:48 am
LA to TheBay Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I’d LIKE to see Moss and have the best front 7 in football.
I think we NEED Perry to clean up the confusion in the secondary.
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Hire Moss as the DC/Assistant HC and Perry as DB coach/Assistant DC. Bresnahan LB coach.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Hire Moss as the DC/Assistant HC and Perry as DB coach/Assistant DC. Bresnahan LB coach.
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Great scenario, but both those guys are due for promotion. No way they share duties in Oakland.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:50 am
CW,
Lionel Washington & Kevin Ross coach the DB’s
Al Davis is the “Assistant DC”
it’s Perry or Moss for Def Coordinator man. flip a coin imo
February 7th, 2011 at 9:51 am
If Darren Perry doesn’t like the taxes in Virginia, than he sure in the hell won’t like them in Cali!!!
February 7th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Glad to see RAPISTburger lose. Karma got him.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:53 am
if both guys are willing to work for Al Davis and accept the pay (very little compared to other DC’s around the league) and priviledges (can’t choose or even help choose the staff under him) then it may come down to who is under contract with GB or who they let walk – can’t imagine both
February 7th, 2011 at 9:54 am
We already have our DC in house for those games we win. His name is Al Davis. He’ll get the credit for all the wins. Thank you very much.
However, Raiders don’t have the DC who’ll take the blame for the losses on the staff yet. Let the interviews begin. Who wants that job?
February 7th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 9:51 am
If Darren Perry doesn’t like the taxes in Virginia, than he sure in the hell won’t like them in Cali!!!
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I was thinking those numbers aint that high for property taxes! Pay up dude!
February 7th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Raiders don’t have the DC who’ll take the blame for the losses on the staff yet. Let the interviews begin. Who wants that job?
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Chuck B!
February 7th, 2011 at 9:57 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 9:50 am
CW,
Lionel Washington & Kevin Ross coach the DB’s
Al Davis is the “Assistant DC”
it’s Perry or Moss for Def Coordinator man. flip a coin imo
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Washington can be replaced as far as I’m concerned, who the hell is Ross?
February 7th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Ross is the asst DB Coach. he replaced Randy Hanson on staff last year
apparently a guy Cable didn’t feel confident enough to throw a punch at!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:01 am
I’m surprised Chuck B was coaching in the… what is that league?. He was the DC for a pretty good bungles defense and led a good defense for years with us.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
That Green Bay defense is so young and so good, and the team’s management so solid and stable, I’d stay right there if I were Perry and Moss.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Chuck B comes from the UFL (Florida Tuskers)
but yeah, I get your point CW
I’d say Bresnahan is better than Rob Ryan & John Marshall, but not as good as Willie Shaw or Mike Zimmer
February 7th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Stubble,
you value doesn’t get any higher as an asst coach. You win the Super Bowl and if your own team doesn’t promote you … it’s time to move on
Coaches have to take care of their families man. You get anywhere from 3 to 10 times the pay when you jump to Coordinator from position coach – then if you prove yourself at THAT level, it’s time for another promotion and more money & control. If nothing else, coaches can use Oakland as a stepping stone to bigger & better things
February 7th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Tim Kawakami (twitter)
Never really bought the excuse that ASmith was undone by the 49ers’ OC changes. If you’re a good QB, AT SOME POINT, you’re actually good.
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yet ANOTHER reason Al Davis will pursue Alex Smith this offseason!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Gawd, I hope not, but I have to agree…its a typical Davis move!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:17 am
# 31
Al won’t touch Alex Smith but might look at VY
February 7th, 2011 at 10:17 am
It is the UFL, ok wasn’t sure… I like the addition of Chuck B, if we could now just replace Lal! Did he replace Belitnikoff or was there someone in between?
February 7th, 2011 at 10:18 am
When we all watched the 49ers-Raiders game last year, it was pretty apparent that both QB’s were trash.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Titans, as expected, named Mike Munchak as their new head coach
February 7th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Lynn from Snot Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 10:17 am
# 31
Al won’t touch Alex Smith but might look at VY
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Maybe we’ll have Young & Leinart backing up JC next season.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Campbell??
February 7th, 2011 at 10:20 am
We could conceivably run a 3-4 with our current personell assuming we keep Wimbley, who is a FA, and sign/draft a few more LB’s. We do need a traditional NT, but Tommy Kelly could play that role for a year until we find a more permanent solution. He is roughly the same size as Jay Ratliff who’s 6′4″ 305 and plays NT in Dallas. Groves and Wimbley at OLB with RoMac and Goethel inside.
We would still probably run a lot of nickel, which would incorporate our 4-3 personell, and will certainly go nickel on at least 95% of third downs. Shaughnessy would still be utilized and a 3-4 scheme could be just what the doctor ordered for 2009’s budding star, Trevor Scott.
Lamarr Houston has the size and strenght to play DE in a 3-4 and we all have witnessed Seymours exploits at that very spot. John Henderson could spell our starting NT and Desmond Bryant would probably see time at 3-4 end and slide inside on nickel packages along side TK or Houston with Shaugnessy and Wimbley on the edges.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:21 am
if we could now just replace Lal! Did he replace Belitnikoff or was there someone in between?
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Charlie Coe & James Lofton, I think
February 7th, 2011 at 10:21 am
How little does Philly think of replaced DC McDermott if they dumped him for their O-line coach!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:22 am
stubblebuzz Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 10:03 am
That Green Bay defense is so young and so good, and the team’s management so solid and stable, I’d stay right there if I were Perry and Moss.
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Assistant coaches rarely stay on when they’re names are ‘hot’ around the league, even if they’re in a winning program.
Look at Ron Rivera. He left the #1 ranked defense in SD, in a weak division for a team that was 2-14 and ranked like 132nd in defense.
The ultimate goal is to be head coach for most of these guys.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Jason La Canfora (twitter)
Cardinals formally approaching Keith Butler.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:24 am
How little does Philly think of replaced DC McDermott if they dumped him for their O-line coach!
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tell Tom Cable to grow his hair out and you’ve got Rob Ryan!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Titans hire Mike Munchak hc
February 7th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 10:21 am
How little does Philly think of replaced DC McDermott if they dumped him for their O-line coach
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The Eagles red zone defense was absolutely atrocious. That was probably the difference in their season too.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Lynn = scooped
February 7th, 2011 at 10:29 am
I think the recruitment of Perry and Moss to be our future DC is to attract Asomugha. They saw first hand how C-wood was used in that scheme and have to be salivating over having a guy like Aso, who while not an athlete or tackler the caliber of Woodson, is a better cover corner and not far off in either of those other categories. Playing in a role like Woodson’s in Green Bay would certainly intrigue Aso and may draw him back to finish what he started here in Oakland.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:36 am
BCZ,
i’m following you on twitter bro
any other semi pros you know of on there besides ray & 408 ???
February 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
That was a bummer….Nnamdi did not win that award.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Morning peoples!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:39 am
My favorite commercial from yesterdays game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55e-uHQna0
February 7th, 2011 at 10:40 am
whats up DMAC?
expecting any more children this offseason ???
February 7th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Good monring all, I have a pretty great idea. I know this is usually a tough crowd. So, I figure it’s a good group to throw this idea out too.. We should make the regular season 18 games (as they are currently proposing anyway). Then we could throw the Super Bowl on the old Presidents day weekend. We could take the Friday before the Super Bowl for Lincoln off and the Monday off after for Washington birthdays. Thoughts?
February 7th, 2011 at 10:42 am
Wassup RRS.
No, sir.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Ghost, how about just having the Super Bowl on a friggin Saturday?!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:44 am
I don’t think VY is backup QB material. I think whoever brings him in to start is making a great move because the will be getting a super talented guy that will come in humbled, motivated, and with a chip on his shoulder. Leinart would be an interesting backup, but I’d rather draft the qb out of Nevada. He has all the tools, experience, and intangibles but just needs to adjust to the pro game and playing under center. Hue Jax would certainly help, he has experience working under great a QB coach in Paul Hackett and certainly help Flacco in his transition from Delaware to starting NFL QB.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:46 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 10:36 am
BCZ,
i’m following you on twitter bro
any other semi pros you know of on there besides ray & 408 ???
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As long as there are no reports on here of the porn stars i talk to! lol! I recommend all semi-pros follow @SexyCandids and @Girlsinyogapant
February 7th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Why? Most of the Season is played on Sunday. It solves two problems. Preseason games suck anyway. Every year some team loses a guy to a season ending injury during preseason. And why not get a four day weekend for the Super Bowl / Presidents Day weekend. It would definately help stimulate the economy.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Rockstar…@dwayneurbshot
I think I tried to follow you but my phone wouldn’t allow it…
February 7th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Michael Huff (twitter)
@Mr53 told me he threw away his pair of gray skinny jeans
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Thomas Howard wears skinny jeans? LOL!
Can’t wait until Raider O shows up to defend his boy
February 7th, 2011 at 10:49 am
LOL…and Mr Howard cut off his mohawk…
February 7th, 2011 at 10:49 am
As long as there are no reports on here of the porn stars i talk to! lol!
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BCZ,
thats your business bro!
obviously I do things a bit differently in my personal life, but we’re all a part of Raider Nation
February 7th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Severeraiderz, the Raiders errr, Al Daivs will not draft as QB for at least 7 more years. Unless it’s to convert him to DB.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I think I tried to follow you but my phone wouldn’t allow it
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Hwnrdr,
I got you down bro! thanks
February 7th, 2011 at 10:52 am
^^*draft a QB*^^
February 7th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Hey BCZ,
I used to be on Facebook and I was friends with a Riley___ can’t remeber her last name. Porn star that posted some pretty wild pics, if you can find her, add her!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Was it Riley suckacock?
LMAO
February 7th, 2011 at 10:58 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I think I tried to follow you but my phone wouldn’t allow it
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Hwnrdr,
I got you down bro! thanks
Got the email….thanks!
February 7th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Was it Riley suckacock?
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must be related to that guy Kobe on the Lakers?
same last name!
February 7th, 2011 at 11:03 am
I am not really that into porn stars. I follow bree olson because the stuff she posts trips me out. She is hilarious, other than that its mostly Raider players, NFL writers, and the people from the Howard Stern show.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:03 am
Who is Death_By_Raider???
February 7th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Julian Peterson-LB-Lions Feb. 7 – 11:25 am et
Under league rules, the Lions can officially release SLB Julian Peterson today.
The Lions have already told Peterson that he won’t be back, killing any thoughts of a potential trade. With two years and $16.5 million left on his contract, no one would trade for Peterson anyway. Once a new CBA is reached, Peterson will find out just how severe his pay cut will be on the open market.
Source: MLive.com
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If we go to 3-4 defense he could provide depth
February 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Julian Peterson is 32 years old and Kam Wimbley is currently our strong side linebacker.
the only way I’ll take Peterson is if Wimbley can’t be retained (we’ll probably tag Seymour)
February 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Who is Death_By_Raider???
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I have no idea ray …
February 7th, 2011 at 11:18 am
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:03 am
I am not really that into porn stars.
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Surely your are into pictures of T & A? Her statuses and pictures were really the only reason I bothered checking in before I deleted my accout… If i remember her name I’ll post it… it’s not Riley suckacock… Leggspredder???
I was listening to Howard this morning and the twitter talk trumped the show. I refuse to sign up.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Tyvon Branch (twitter)
I went to the strip club and the strippers made it rain on me
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LOL!
February 7th, 2011 at 11:22 am
That wont last long. Its only because Howard signed up last week. By March he will hate it and stop using it lol
February 7th, 2011 at 11:22 am
I read an article that said Cromartie twittered he was gonna “smash in” Matt Hasselbacks face! LMAO!!
February 7th, 2011 at 11:25 am
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:22 am
That wont last long. Its only because Howard signed up last week. By March he will hate it and stop using it lol
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True, when he discovered Facebook that talk lasted a little over a week and quickly faded.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:26 am
I read an article that said Cromartie twittered he was gonna “smash in” Matt Hasselbacks face!
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TRUTH
Matthew said he was sorry and was only kidding like 10 minutes after he wrote that …
February 7th, 2011 at 11:26 am
I’d take Julian Peterson in a minute.
He’s big and fast, but at times unproductive.
The perfect Al Davis player.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:27 am
if the raiders make the switch to the 3-4 defense, all they would really need to go get is a big fat nt and a middle linebacker to insert next to #55. If Wimbley can be retained he would be a great fit as a rush olb opposite off Thomas Howard who in my mind would excel in a 3-4
February 7th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:22 am
I read an article that said Cromartie twittered he was gonna “smash in” Matt Hasselbacks face! LMAO!!
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where have u been? that was like 2 weeks ago, funny stuff though.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Why not promote Wauffle as DC?
February 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
In 2005, Al Davis passed on Rodgers because he thought Kerry Collins was the next reclamation project. I wonder if he will pass on another good QB in this draft because he’s going to hang on to Campbell as the next reclamation project.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
HairyBush Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:22 am
I read an article that said Cromartie twittered he was gonna “smash in” Matt Hasselbacks face! LMAO!!
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where have u been? that was like 2 weeks ago, funny stuff though.
I was in the Domincan for 10 days. TV, phone & internet free!!!!!
February 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Best tweet war ever was last friday when Lamarr Houston called Sapp a d!ck. I love him even more now!
February 7th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Mickey Rat Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Why not promote Wauffle as DC?
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I think they will if they dont get who they want.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Why was Cromartie gonna smash in his face? I read Matt’s CBA post but what was that in reference to? The article didn’t get into it.
How does Cromartie have time to twitter? Doesn’t he have 9 kids??
February 7th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Doesn’t he have 9 kids??
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He cant even remember all their names… how active in their lives do you think he is?
February 7th, 2011 at 11:33 am
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Best tweet war ever was last friday when Lamarr Houston called Sapp a d!ck. I love him even more now!
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NICE!!!
February 7th, 2011 at 11:34 am
bcz24 Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Doesn’t he have 9 kids??
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He cant even remember all their names… how active in their lives do you think he is?
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I’m sure he sends them birthday cards.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Hasselback asked someone (can’t remember) to ask Cromartie if he knew what CBA meant…
Did Cromartie threatened him by saying say that to my face,and hasselback replied with an apology…
February 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
I think Phil Simms and Desmond Howard should settle there dispute in a live pay per view event the money should go to the charity of the winners choosing.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Aaron Rogers in Oakland would not have worked. Period!
THe Raiders don’t know how to develop young QBs and the environment is chaotic.
The Raiders can only win with veteran QBs that are mature, have a feel for how the league works, and is self-motivated.
The coaches change too often and the surronding talent is suspect for a young QB to succeed here.
The Raiders have to hope JC can pull through or find another vet QB
February 7th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:29 am
HairyBush Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:27 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:22 am
I read an article that said Cromartie twittered he was gonna “smash in” Matt Hasselbacks face! LMAO!!
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where have u been? that was like 2 weeks ago, funny stuff though.
I was in the Domincan for 10 days. TV, phone & internet free!!!!!
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yeah I’m jealous. I live in Ma where all it keeps doing is snowing. I could go for some Dominican weather and no media.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:41 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Julian Peterson is 32 years old and Kam Wimbley is currently our strong side linebacker.
the only way I’ll take Peterson is if Wimbley can’t be retained (we’ll probably tag Seymour)
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I’m a big Wimbley fan, mind you I said Peterson would provide good depth.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Ghost to the Post Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
I think Phil Simms and Desmond Howard should settle there dispute in a live pay per view event the money should go to the charity of the winners choosing.
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When I heard about this I immediately thought Howard must have referred to Simms jr.’s tattoo of another mans name on his leg… but it was just about him sucking at QB!
February 7th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Ghost to the Post Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:36 am
I think Phil Simms and Desmond Howard should settle there dispute in a live pay per view event the money should go to the charity of the winners choosing.
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Maybe Phil’s son Chris can just get them both to smoke a fat doobie and all will be well.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:49 am
You can never beat the impact of a fatty.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Hasselback said cromartie couldn’t even spell CBA and the promptly removed the tweet….word still got back to Cromartie who said that he would smash Hasselbacks face in. Matt apologized and I think Cromartie gave an IDGAF response to the aplology and as far as I know still wants to smash his face in.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Then* promptly……
February 7th, 2011 at 11:55 am
Lets get this D coordinator vacancy filled so we move on to the draft
February 7th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Better hope the D-Coordinator can convince Davis to modify the scheme.
That strict man2man is tough to play. And if the Raiders lose Nnamdi….it will be impossible to play with what remains
February 7th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
“Better hope the D-Coordinator can convince Davis to modify the scheme.”
More likely is the D-Coordinator will be hired because he will do exactly what AD wants him to do.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
107.Silver-and-black666 Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
“Better hope the D-Coordinator can convince Davis to modify the scheme.”
More likely is the D-Coordinator will be hired because he will do exactly what AD wants him to do.
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Then nothing will change and the defense will perform to expectations.
Rigid, predictable….with the same results.
And with both sides of the field opened up with #21 geting replaced by a backup player like C.J…..expect a plodding 24 to 35 pts a game defense
February 7th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
SnB
Its not my preference but I know how AD operates so it is my prediction on what will happen.
I agree with you (Rigid, predictable ….with the same results.)
Pretty much whats its like being a Raider fan these days…rigid predictable……
February 7th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
nothing will change and the defense will perform to expectations.
Rigid, predictable….with the same results.
And with both sides of the field opened up with #21 geting replaced by a backup player like C.J…..expect a plodding 24 to 35 pts a game defense
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Disagree!
DB’s are dime a dozen with a legit pass rush. Dom Capers’ defense is TOUGH. did they miss anything when Al Harris got injured and eventually released last year? what did they look like without C-Wood yesterday? I know I saw a backup strong safety (some guy named charlie peprah?) covering Mike Wallace at least 3 times
the Steelers made it to the Super Bowl and the only guy worth anything there is Troy P, who was invisable yesterday – and the Squeelers STILL had a chance to win the game! many chances! 3 offensive turnovers killed their chances …
Re-sign Seymour & Wimbley. Let Asomugha & Huff walk. We’ll be fine as long as the DC knows what he’s doing and the offense can put up some points
the run defense seems to be the only MAJOR flaw that effects this team year in & year out and those numbers are skewed due to the occasional big play (which does count, but makes the D look much worse on paper than it actually is)
the team needs discipline, plain & simple. we have the talent. Tom Cable preached accountability, which is fine … but at some point you have to quit saying “that ones on me” and do something about it! When this team shows up prepared, hungry and motivated there may not be anybody who can beat us. We seem to be our own worst enemy
February 7th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Rockstar,
The key is “rigid and predictable”….
Perhaps if the DC can get the Raiders coached up on how to play zone defense…then the Raiders can “successfully” give different looks and mask coverages.
But that will most likely not happen. Therefore, the Raiders have to have BOSS cornerbacks that can play on the island every play.
As for the “big play”…when you give up big runs just about every game…is it really a “big play” or just the normal course of business.
February 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Rockstar
DB’s are not a dime a dozen for the type Defense the Raiders play.
They don’t play a 3-4 zone-blitzing Defense, ok?
February 7th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
As for the “big play”…when you give up big runs just about every game…is it really a “big play” or just the normal course of business
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BCZ is my cohort on this one and much more eloquent than I. I’m going to defer this one and let him answer it
February 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
They don’t play a 3-4 zone-blitzing Defense, ok?
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Kell,
so hire Darren Perry as DC and draft a fat slob nose tackle in Round 2
whats the problem?
February 7th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
hopefully new Titans HC Mike Munchak has his eyes set on a DC candidate other than Moss or Perry!
pretty sure Steelers LB Coach Keith Butler is headed to Arizona …
February 7th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
perhaps Mike Munchak will promote Dave McGinnis or Marcus Robertson to DC ???
February 7th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Carl weathers
Colin won’t be drafted til late, like a 5th or 6th round guy, if he gets drafted at all.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Rockstar,
The Raiders are very unlikely to get that big NT. That’s not how Davis wants to run the defense.
Still think the Raiders messed up badly by taking DHB over BJ Raji.
The Raiders are trying to build an Indy Colts like defense, built on speed and pass rush…depending on the offense to score a lot of points and force the opponent to pass.
Problem is, the Raider passing game is not very good
February 7th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
Assistant coaches rarely stay on when they’re names are ‘hot’ around the league, even if they’re in a winning program.
Look at Ron Rivera. He left the #1 ranked defense in SD, in a weak division for a team that was 2-14 and ranked like 132nd in defense.
The ultimate goal is to be head coach for most of these guys.
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You’re right, of course. DC jobs don’t grow on trees.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Still think the Raiders messed up badly by taking DHB over BJ Raji.
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Raji was getting handled by a backup C yesterday. Did he make ANY plays? Didn’t Pitts just say F it and run the ball on Raji and Co?
Shouldn’t have taken DHB or Raji.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
A steeler fan said this in responce to Raider nation was the original nation.
Any truth to that?
John Facenda of NFL Films coined the term ‘Steeler Nation’ to describe the rabid, national fan base of the Black and Gold in 1975.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
If we can put Nnadmi all over the field like GB does with CWood, then I’m all for bringing the guy back.
If we are just going to stick him out there on the left side, then I agree with RRS. Invest the $ in the pass rush and simply improve the communication in the seconday.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
J Hill Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Raji was getting handled by a backup C yesterday. Did he make ANY plays? Didn’t Pitts just say F it and run the ball on Raji and Co?
Shouldn’t have taken DHB or Raji.
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What a joke. Raji was very instrumental in the NFC Championship game, no? Plus I believe the Packers won the Super Bowl yesterday.
Stooges will say ANYTHING, to defend Davis and the indefensible.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I have to agree with Darren Perry as a my preference.
DESPERATELY need the help in the secondary.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
just came across this worth taking a look at.raiders should be able to make it work with free agents.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
SnB
I thought the colts were small and quick to swarming the ball in zone coverage. It worked for Dungy in Indy and Tampa.
Arent the Raiders getting bigger on D? Hue wants to push people around, punish the other team.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
forgot the link.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/37327/looking-at-2011-salary-cap-figures
February 7th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
114.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
They don’t play a 3-4 zone-blitzing Defense, ok?
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Kell,
so hire Darren Perry as DC and draft a fat slob nose tackle in Round 2
whats the problem?
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Caues wsitching to a 3-4 would waste a lot of talent we already have built. It takes more then weight to be a NT. You gotta be the strongest man on the line, and have skills. If these guys are not easy to find.
February 7th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
J Hill Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
I have to agree with Darren Perry as a my preference.
DESPERATELY need the help in the secondary.
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#2 Pass Defense in NFL! Desperately need help in secondary????????????
February 7th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Problem is, the Raider passing game is not very good
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SnB,
you mean Hue Jackson (former QB Coach & WR Coach) who gave us the 6th most points scored in the NFL, saved McFadden from becoming a bust, developed Marcel Reece into a Pro Bowl talent and made Seabass the NFL’s leading scorer doesn’t have the ability to transform our passing attack ???
What makes you think that?
the fact that he benched our best QB 3 times for an injury proned scrub? the fact that he kept DHB in the line-up over guys who might actually produce and then had the nerve of calling Mr. 35 catches in 2 seasons capable of an 8-catch, 224 yards 3 TD performance? perhaps it was the fact that our offense was crippled when Zach Miller was injured and instead of giving Reece (a WR in college) his TE reps, they went to OT Khalif Barnes? How many sacks did our O-Line give up again?
sorry – the sarcasm fairy came to visit me. she appreciates reality
February 7th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Desperately need help in secondary????????????
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Kell,
I think Jhill is referring to our secondary giving up 29 TD passes and missing some tackles on RB’s as the last line of defense that resulted in huge gains and/or TD runs.
Also, Perry is a highly regarded coach. His 2 years in Oakland were the first 2 years Nnamdi made the Pro Bowl and became regarded as the league’s best cover corner. He might have enough clout to convince Huff and Routt to stay put as well. He’s worked for Al Davis before and coached under both Dick LeBeau & Dom Capers. He’s my favorite too
February 7th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Nnamdi, Routt & CJ had some of the lowest burn rates in the league.
Man 2 Man defense is susceptible to long runs. Are they going to change that?
February 7th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Jhill,
Raji came in with 39 tackles, 6.5 sacks 3 pass deflections and played well in the playoffs and was versitale in moving around the line and pushing the pocket.
The 1st rounder we took instead is totally useless
February 7th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
If a defense can’t use the best cornerback in the league because the scheme is so rigid and inflexible….then there is something wrong with the system.
Rarely is getting rid of good players….let alone GREAT players….a positive thing for the team.
Bringing in new players to replace Nnamdi? How the hell does a team that struggles so mightily like the Raiders in personnel…replace the best cornerback in the league and get better?
Who do they spend that money on? A wide receiver?
The Raiders better be saving up for Larry Fitzgerald…not another round of average to below average depth talent
February 7th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
CJ + Routt + walter mcfadden < Nnamdi Asomugha.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Al Davis “hinted” that he might take Nnamdi’s 17 million and spread it around to two or three players.
Immediately his Stooges jumped in lockstep.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
UCLA Raiders Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Glad to see RAPISTburger lose. Karma got him.
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Couldnt agree more!
Now is the greatest time to be stuck in the middle of ‘Steeler Country’… Boo-hooing all around me… I f#$king LOVE it!! You west coast guys might not have picked up on the Sh#ttsburgh SB campaign slogan “Stairway to Seven”, what an Effing joke!!.. More like Stairway to NOTHING… As bad as I hated to see them in the big game, it was PRICELESS to see them go down!…
As for more important topics…. Lets pick up a DC already!!
As always, Win, Lose or Tie… RAIDERS til I DIE!!
February 7th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Raji would be 3rd string STILL behing Kelly and Seymour.
Has nothing to do with DHB.
Like I said, we shouldn’t have taken EITHER of them.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
JHill is right…the only way Raji starts here is if Kelly or Seymour aren’t here at the same time.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
SnB,
The issue is Nnamdi choosing to come back to the Raiders, not the other way around. If he’s willing to accept 10 million a year (Revis $), the he’ll be back.
If his agent is trying to get the highest paid DB in the game $ again, then my guess is he’ll get a chance to see if there is another team that pays him that.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
For all we know, Nnamdi may just want to get to the East coast, to be that much closer to his charity work in Africa…
February 7th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Wow, Head Stooge & Junior Stoogie on the same page. lol.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
then there is something wrong with the system.
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Propoganda!
We went to man to man and more man to man after it was pretty clear we were NOT able to execute much else. Be it 2 first time OLBs, a rookie MLB, TERRIBLE S play from Branch and Mitchell, our attempts to play zone were LAUGHABLE.
Now the issue is who’s fault is it?
It shouldn’t be too hard to understand what area of the field you are supposed to take. The fact that guys were constantly out of position seemed like a coaching issue to me. Or quite possibly a football IQ issue from.
Guys should simply know their effin assignments!
February 7th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Propoganda!
We went to man to man and more man to man after it was pretty clear we were NOT able to execute much else. Be it 2 first time OLBs, a rookie MLB, TERRIBLE S play from Branch and Mitchell, our attempts to play zone were LAUGHABLE.
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Oh yeah, when was this. I thought we’d been playing man2man for the last 45 years?
February 7th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Who do they spend that money on? A wide receiver?
The Raiders better be saving up for Larry Fitzgerald…not another round of average to below average depth talent
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Nope. the Raiders apparently still see DHB as a #1 WR
Ford & Murphy will probably both double his reception total next year if JCamp has any pass protection and Hue doesn’t yank him in & out of the line up again
Sanjay Lal’s contract was up and he’s back with the team, meaning Al Davis actually renewed his deal and he put his pen to paper! *disgusting*
February 7th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Sanjay Lal’s contract was up and he’s back with the team, meaning Al Davis actually renewed his deal and he put his pen to paper! *disgusting*
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You weren’t happy with the way he developed Ford?
February 7th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Jhill,
The point is this…if the Raiders are going to play this style of defense, the way they have for all these years, then they need CBs that are on point just about all the time.
Also, like finding the next Cliff Branch, Al Davis will start spending those draft picks on 20,000 DBs again.
Will the Raiders TEACH zone concepts in camp this year? Or will it be more of the same?
February 7th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Was Ford developed, or does Ford just have “it?”
Tough to say how much impact Sanjay’s had w/ him at this point.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
You weren’t happy with the way he developed Ford?
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Hue Jackson & Ted Tollner don’t get any credit for that ???
I’d say Lal had about as much influence on Ford as Tom Cable!
February 7th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
whats up HD37?
how was your super bowl sunday?
February 7th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Good day to you, RRS.
I watched the game. It was an otherwise beautiful day.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Asomugha, Seymour, Huff and Miller…
Is this team good enough to actually move forward losing one or more of these guys AND keeping the same basic system.
Who are the next guys up?
February 7th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Yeaahhhh!
Congrats to the Cal product Rodgers, former Raider C Woodson, and the rest of the Packer team for beating those RapistBerger Steelers!
Way to get the job done!
Now lets hope the Raiders hire the right DC…hopes it’s Moss or Perry.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Who do they spend that money on? A wide receiver?
The Raiders better be saving up for Larry Fitzgerald…not another round of average to below average depth talent
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Nope. the Raiders apparently still see DHB as a #1 WR
Ford & Murphy will probably both double his reception total next year if JCamp has any pass protection and Hue doesn’t yank him in & out of the line up again
Sanjay Lal’s contract was up and he’s back with the team, meaning Al Davis actually renewed his deal and he put his pen to paper! *disgusting*
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On Friday, Adam Schefter reported that Washington Redskins wide receiver Santana Moss would become an unrestricted free agent due to his contract being voided!
February 7th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
From bleacherreport re the Senior Bowl:
I may as well go on record saying that I really didn’t know much about Miami wide receiver Leonard Hankerson coming into today’s action.
However, when Hankerson was on the receiving end of a 50-yard bomb on the first play from scrimmage, —on which he went back and caught a severely underthrown ball—I pulled up his scouting report.
The reports say that while Hankerson’s size (6′2″, 213 lbs) is good, he lacks elite speed and he doesn’t always run clean routes.
I guess I can kind of see how this might be true, but one thing he did show on Saturday in catching five balls for 100 yards and a touchdown is that he has great instincts.
He might be the kind of a guy who just has a knack for making big catches.
They tend to like stuff like that in the NFL.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Another from bleacherreport about the Senior Bowl:
Even if Kendric Burney had done something like lead the nation in interceptions during the 2010 season, there would probably still be questions about his transition to the next level because of his size.
And this would make sense. Burney is just 5′9″ and 180 lbs, and his only real redeeming quality is his elite speed.
Christian Ponder targeted Burney at least once on the opening drive, and he made a play on the ball to deny a touchdown.
From that point on, not much happened on Burney’s side of the field, and he ended up being named the North’s most outstanding player.
Naturally, there will still be questions about his size as we speed towards April, but there shouldn’t be any more doubts about Burney’s ability to play his position.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Hue Jack City® will make the passing game work.
He’ll get Moss or more likely Perry in here.
He’s got the juice now.
February 7th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Kendric is projected to be a 5th rounder.
February 7th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
I know our scouts looked at Burney, but he’s a bit undersized for a Raider DB.
Then again, Jacoby was a bit undersized for a Raider WR, but maybe speed will trump other measurables.
February 7th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Hayes,
the reports on Hankerson also say that he was body catching (and dropping) balls left and right throughout Senior Bowl week practices, a bad habit that DHB has perfected and we would be smart to avoid drafting more of.
February 7th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
It shouldn’t be too hard to understand what area of the field you are supposed to take. The fact that guys were constantly out of position seemed like a coaching issue to me. Or quite possibly a football IQ issue
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I believe it is the latter.
Zone defense is played quite often throughout college, and I’m sure the Raiders aren’t running the fancy cutting-edge zones. Shouldn’t be anywhere as near as difficult as they made it seem.
These idiots back there need to get it together. Huff was the only one who consistantly seemed to know what is going on out there.
February 7th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
I’m not advocating either player — just showing what was said last week.
And…nothing wrong with a short CB, as long as he covers like a blanket.
February 7th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
152.SnB Production Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Asomugha, Seymour, Huff and Miller…
Is this team good enough to actually move forward losing one or more of these guys AND keeping the same basic system.
Who are the next guys up?
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We can lose Nnam, Huff, Sey! But we do not have anything close to Miller on the roster! We would have to use our 2nd rndr to draft a TE, and that is a (rao shoot.
We must re-sign Miller.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
I agree about the importance of keeping Miller. REally no option at all there.
The Raiders can’t afford to lose their 3 best players on defense and arguably can’t afford to lose any of them.
Who’s the next guy up?
Walter McFadden / Chris Johnson for Nnamdi?
Jeremy Ware / Hiram Eugene for Huff
Desmond Bryant / or does Houston move inside and Scott take over the RDE spot? for Seymour
Doesn’t sound like a good situation to me.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Much to do about nothing with all the worrying.
Miller is a RFA. He’ll be back. He’s not that good TO OTHER TEAMS that they will pay him anywhere near what the Raiders would AND give up a draft pick.
Same goes for Mike Bush. Matching a Raider offer AND a draft pick? Not going to happen.
Seymour or Huff will get the franshise tag and the other, if not both, will get nice 3 or 4 year offers.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Jarrad Page would be a good signing if the Raiders can’t retain Huff.
In four years in the league Page has 12 INTs, and he wasn’t even a starter last season or as a rookie, and sat out almost all of 2009 because of a calf injury.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
five years in the league*
February 7th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarrad_Page
February 7th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
The Raiders will make Nnamdi a “fair” offer. Question is will he take it?
Jets are out with Revis, Cromartie, and Wilson. They aren’t paying Nnamdi and Revis AND giving Davis Harris franshise $.
He’s not pairing up with Woodson in GB.
I can’t think of a single “elite” team that would pay Nnamdi 10 million a year.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Miller was drafted in the 2nd rnd, just about where we pick there enough good TE’s to choose from but IMO how you think we can lose Huff and Nnamdi and Sey instead of Miller is beyond me.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
SnB,
When was the last time we played man to man without pro bowl caliber corners?
If we lose Nnamdi and Huff, what makes you think Al will think his secondary is good enough to play man to man?
February 7th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
I think Nnamdi will be back. If not, that’s $17 million for Al to use on a couple other key free agents.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
can we keep Nam or can we afford to lose Seymour will Huff go etc….
None of this will matter if there is no football next year
February 7th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
black and silver black and silver black and silver
February 7th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
The Raiders might be able to replace Huff or Seymour or Nnamdi, but not all three at once.
At the very least, Seymour will be back.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
McFadden and Ware are going to be solid players for us.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
I just don’t see Al giving up a 1st round pick for a two-year rental.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
I think it’s far too early to say with any certainty that McFadden and Ware will be solid players, but at the same time they both have a lot of potential and should by no means be written off. I think Walter McFadden in particular could have a bright future. I’d like to see Nnamdi stick around to continue mentoring him.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
At 10 $million a year he’ll stay here but I thi nk hets a deal somehwere near $50 formil 4-5 years. Same with Big Sey and Huff gets $45 for 5-6 years Miller 6 years $36 mill and they all maybe see half that money. Just the same as Nnamdi this yearhe only sa 30 of that gargantuan deal for 45 over 3. NFL players rarely see the entire contract as negotiated.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
why live in fear? (oh yeah, some call it “skepticism” as they pat themselves on the back for being “real”. the same fear led people to believe that the Pitts D was invincible yesterday. Not. The same fear led people to believe that the Belicheats would trounce the Gints 50-3. Not.
“Real” “skepticism” is just fear of failure, wanting proof of success before the fact. Nothing more. Doesn’t mean that anyone has to walk on water to accomplish something, but fear of excelling is the very first damnation of excellence.)
Afraid of Moss or Perry or Bresnahan? Children, please.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Seattle would pay Nnamdi over 10M in a heartbeat.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Don’t overlook Dallas and Washington for Nnamdi.
They have plenty of cash, and plenty of history saying they will overpay people.
(They also could both use a RB as well. Bush might be more in their sights than Nnamdi)
February 7th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
BHP,
CWood took 7 for 52 mill with 11 or 12 mill up front and he does seem content/glad doesn’t he?
Didn’t break the bank and all good.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
You guy swya over exaggerate the need of probowl corners to play man defense you’re so full of hype it’s pathetic. Man defense is not that hard if yoiun know what you’re doing the Packers played man with rookies almost igt’s just defense if you can play in the secondary you should be able to play man or zone.
You guy act like it’s some supreme talent that’s need it’s all about technigue. You make to much of a big deal about it. If you cannot play man you shouldn’t be t=in the secondary …………period
February 7th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
I’d gladly take Washington’s 1st rd pick for Mike Bush.
Nnamdi isn’t going to a team that had a worse record than the Raiders.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
My yeah he does and he is one of the highest paid if not the highest Nnamdi will be here he’s not what people think he is he’ll be fine with a fair contract.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
170.priesttj Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Miller was drafted in the 2nd rnd, just about where we pick there enough good TE’s to choose from but IMO how you think we can lose Huff and Nnamdi and Sey instead of Miller is beyond me.
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No, I don’t mean we can lose 21,24, and 92, and still be ok. The one player with the biggest impact to the W/L is Miller IMO. We have sheeet dehind him. If 92 goes we can move 99 inside, if 24 goes we can get Page, move 34/33/27, or even draft another. If 21 goes we still have 26, 22 and 37.
Losing any of them would not be good.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Thank you, BHP, for making the most important point of all for a CB…can he COVER, no matter what the scheme calls for? Some can, some can’t…as we’ve seen a time or two before. FleeceAngelo Hall anyone?
February 7th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Sorry M I meant to use M……..
February 7th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
The more I think of it, the more I am worried about Huff leaving more so than just about anyone else.
He continues to improve every year, and I would like to see next years improvement in Silver and Black.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
BHP,
analysts I watched last night and early this morning pointed out Pitts’ overall uselessness in man coverage. Hairomalu included.
Pack forced ‘em to man cover and they couldn’t do it.
Did help when Rodgers put every ball on the dime, yes, but the Pitts are based on one thing – QB pressure – it is also why Brady has continually torched them.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Priesttj Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Miller was drafted in the 2nd rnd, just about where we pick there enough good TE’s to choose from but IMO how you think we can lose Huff and Nnamdi and Sey instead of Miller is beyond me.
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Agreed.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Keep huff , that high safety position hard to play, he does an excellent job of what he is asked to do if he played in another scheme he would be a multiple pro bowler by now.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
I completely disagree Raccoon I could get a TE in the 3rd rnd to tak ehis place in THIS draft. Miller is very good and I wouldn’t want to lose him but the most important players are Nnamdi and Seymour and I would include Huff because I think he has evelated his game to that level. It’s not hard to find TE’s trust me.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
192.KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Priesttj Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Miller was drafted in the 2nd rnd, just about where we pick there enough good TE’s to choose from but IMO how you think we can lose Huff and Nnamdi and Sey instead of Miller is beyond me.
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Agreed.
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Not AND kk, either/or. The one guy with the biggest affect on the W/L is Miller.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
J Hill Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
McFadden and Ware are going to be solid players for us.
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According to your little crystal ball?
February 7th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Too many holes on the roster already to let Jason Campbell’s security blanket walk. Not like there’s any danger of that happening. Miller will be back.
February 7th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
If it’s either or, I’d drop Zack Miller like a bad habit.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
194.priesttj Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
I completely disagree Raccoon I could get a TE in the 3rd rnd to tak ehis place in THIS draft. Miller is very good and I wouldn’t want to lose him but the most important players are Nnamdi and Seymour and I would include Huff because I think he has evelated his game to that level. It’s not hard to find TE’s trust me.
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I can’t say you are wrong, but I don’t agree 100%
Miller “fits” this team, not many TE’s do. 92, and 21 are great, and can not be replaced any time soon with a equal. 24 plays his S posisition better than any RAIDER in the last 9 years. But when it comes down to wins and losses, Miller is moore important than any of the 4. Run locking on the line, and in space/down field, Pass blocking, catching, decoy, this guy does it all.
The second most important has to be big 92. He keeps the D-line in check, and is a HOF player. 21 is a very close 3rd.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
198.KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
If it’s either or, I’d drop Zack Miller like a bad habit.
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Who would replace him, and his production in the run, and passing game? Meyers? Reece is not the answer, he is the X factor, and needs to stay there.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
197.YoungAmerican Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Too many holes on the roster already to let Jason Campbell’s security blanket walk. Not like there’s any danger of that happening. Miller will be back.
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If we get a new young QB, Miller will be even more needed!
February 7th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Miller dropped a lot of passes and dealt with injuries last year.
Miller has more wear and tear than the average TE, from getting hung out to dray and bailing out Jamarcus, Soup and Gradkowski the last 3 years.
We HAVE to take a TE this year, but I think a 5th or 6th round pick should be just fine.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
That is another MYTH the high safety position is NOT hard to play that’s exactly what I’m tallking about you have a few people who come in here thinking they know everything and they spread a bunch of propaganda that is not true. The single high safety is in every playbook in the NFL. it’s just not a part of the base defense for some teams but it’s in darn near every game that’s played in the league.
Some of this stuff is like rumors that get started and before you know it the rumor becomes more believed than the truth. DEFENSE is just defense they are all tough to play if you cannot play.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
the raiders can keep everyone except 92 and 21.it`s going to be one or the other and i put my money on 92.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
When’s the last time a TE was drafted in the top 10.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I’m not that concerned about our TE position, Myers is okay, Barnes a great #3 TE although he could end up winning a starting job at OT since he was healthy all year,
if we lose Zach, we could draft a TE in the later rounds or pick up one off of waivers/FA ourselves
February 7th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Raiders
February 7th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Hopefully Raiders sign Winston Moss, because he is successful as a LB coach and he really wants the Raiders’ defensive coordinator position.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Keepers??
Seymour? Keeping future Hall Of Famer Big Rich is a MUST for this Defensive line to become one of the Raiders’ best ever. He set the tone for the D-line from day-one. Truly exceptional players rarely come along, and he’s one of them. Looks mighty good in Silver & Black.
Nnamdi? If we can keep him w/ a contract within +/-10% of the rest of the best players at his position. QB money? No way it happens again, at least not after his bonus year monies.
Huff? Don’t break the bank, but otherwise find a way to keep him. Huff has arrived…and his confidence showed it as the year went on. We now have what I would consider on of the best young Safety corps in the League. Huff’s versatility is a huge asset, too. I don’t see any reason to try and replace either Branch, Huff, or the up-and-coming Mitchell34.
ZMiller? Another MUST keep, for an Offense that barely got to use him last year, it seems, even though he had “fair” numbers. It’s amazing what nagging injuries do to even great players.
Gallery? Losing Gallery would be a HUGE mistake for this O-line, and for the TEAM. This guy is a good-to-great Guard, limited only by his own injuries of late…but, he keeps playing top-level O-line, with much respect from around the League. Not only has he showed grit and fortitude, he’s a GREAT ambassador for the Raiders in the community, and a great teammate.
Scope-out enough of the CBA happenings to know exactly what can and acn’t be done…and then go find a way to keep ALL of the guys mentioned above.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
It seems that Gallery has been real instrumental in Veldheer’s development, according to Veldheer.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Huff is just a very good safety but the guy we had there stu ust flat sucked I’m sorry but if you are gaging what a safety is capable of based on that guy you are SEVERELY misguided.
I could’v egot a guy off the street better than Stu he was HORRIBLE. I’ve been watching safeties play that position for damn near 50 years and 60-70% played single high safety. Now how is it al of a sudden hard to do…………that is a JOKE!!
February 7th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Priesttj ur a lame. Analysis even speak about the difficulty of playing single hi safety . in a single hi your the last line of defense . think before you speak bro
February 7th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Someone has to be the last line of defense son what else is supposed to be the goalline. Either you man up and play defense or the offense scores………period
In the old days that’s all they played was single hig safety now it’s all of sudden hard to do……..get outta here with that. No matter what defens you play someone has to be the last line of defense………get a clue son.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
203.priesttj Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
That is another MYTH the high safety position is NOT hard to play that’s exactly what I’m tallking about you have a few people who come in here thinking they know everything and they spread a bunch of propaganda that is not true. The single high safety is in every playbook in the NFL. it’s just not a part of the base defense for some teams but it’s in darn near every game that’s played in the league.
Some of this stuff is like rumors that get started and before you know it the rumor becomes more believed than the truth. DEFENSE is just defense they are all tough to play if you cannot play.
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Whew! That’s why coaches coach, players play and fans fan.
BTW, if any ss or fs could play the hs, and you say its not hard, but defense is hard to play, well if that were the case everyone and their sister would be out there. Hard for you maybe, hard for the common folk but not the hs. If the safety were on high playing the high position, does he get axtra pay for hazardous duty? I think not, only if I were him I’d be sure to take out an extra insurance policy cause you never know when two crossing wr’s collide and you are in the midddle, look out, but not to worry to much, wr’s usually small and don’t carry much of an impact, unless your smaller than them. Now te’s on the other hand are a different story, thats why they are big cause the should be called ‘i’ll bail you out recievers’, but a tight end is worth gold if he be good.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Al Davis Supremo Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
but a tight end is worth gold if he be good.
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When was the last time a Tight End was drafted in the top 10?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Vernon Leonard Davis (born January 31, 1984) is a professional American football tight end for the San Francisco 49ers of the National Football League. He was drafted in the 1st round (6th overall) of the 2006 NFL Draft by the 49ers. Upon entering the league, Davis signed to a 5-year, $23 million deal that made him the highest paid tight end at the time. He joined current Tampa Bay Buccaneers tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. as the third highest tight end ever drafted after Ron Kramer (Green Bay, No. 4 in 1957) and Mike Ditka (Chicago, No. 5 in 1961). After three mediocre, injury riddled seasons Davis finally broke out in 2009, leading the NFL in touchdown receptions and quickly vaulting himself into the league’s elite at the tight end position.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
215.KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Al Davis Supremo Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
but a tight end is worth gold if he be good.
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When was the last time a Tight End was drafted in the top 10?
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Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame 2011
February 7th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Draft DJ Williams TE Arkansas in the 3rd round.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
A TE is a TE even the great ones were not not worth what a great HB or DE or OT or DB is worth. YOU are putting way too much emphasis on that position. I’l give you 2 TE’s for a great cover corner. I’ll give 3 TE’s for a great QB now he’s worth his weight in gold a TE is worth his weight in TE’s……….period
February 7th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Draft Ryan Mallett QB Akansas in the 2nd and DJ Williams in the 3rd.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Thanks R8eray. Tight Ends very rarely go in the top 10. Why?
Whereas QB’s Dlineman, Olineman DB’s, routinely go in the top 10.
Tight Ends are not that inherently valuable.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
219.priesttj Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
A TE is a TE even the great ones were not not worth what a great HB or DE or OT or DB is worth. YOU are putting way too much emphasis on that position. I’l give you 2 TE’s for a great cover corner. I’ll give 3 TE’s for a great QB now he’s worth his weight in gold a TE is worth his weight in TE’s……….period
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So your saying a 260 lb. tight end is worth only 260 lbs.?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
KK Vernon Davis was drafted #6 overall. Rickey Dudley #10 overall they can have a great affect on tyour offense but he’s putting way too more weight on it.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
You guys think it’s waaaay too easy to replace qualified, PROVEN talent in the NFL…with kids coming out of college!
Trade MBush for a #1 pick?? Then, we have to replace him. Where are going to get a RB we KNOW is ready to start for an NFL team? In the draft, one guy I really think is can’t-miss, and that’s Bama’s Mark Ingram. I wouldn’t trade MBush for Mark Ingram, not until Ingram shows me he’s a better PRO than Bush is..
Lose Huff…and replace him with…another young kid? How long has it taken Huff to get to where he’s playing damn-near Pro Bowl Safety? Years? Kinda like it took Nnamdi years to come all the way around?
ZMiller?? What, are you guys F’ing nuts?? Yes…Tight Ends are “easy” to come by. But, GREAT TE’s are not so easy to come by. This guy is one of the top TE’s in the AFC, and he’s a lot more versatile than some people give him credit for. Make this guy a more-steady piece of this arsenal, and watch Jason Campbell look good.
Dunno how many picks you guys think we have, or where you think we’re going to have the leverage in many trades…but finding equal value for the names you guys are throwing around is going to be nearly impossible.in the short-term.
And our chance to REALLY turn the corner, and become a great team, is here right now. We’ll lose a few players…but we’ve got to build on what we have right now…not re-build.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
DJ Williams: Arkansas Razorbacks
Depending on who’s list is taken seriously DJ Williams may be taken as high as the first tight end in the NFL Draft. On this list he ranks third after Kyle Rudolph declared for the draft and behind Luke Stocker. Williams is the right size for the position at 6′ 2″ and 250 pounds and is a good blocker as well as great pass catcher.
DJ Williams learned his position in a pro style offense with the Arkansas Razorbacks. Williams was a big target for Ryan Mallet over the middle and he will be successful in that role in the NFL. Williams is another NFL Draft prospect that is a good route runner with exceptional breakaway speed after the catch. DJ Williams will be drafted in the second round of the NFL Draft.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Playstation GM’s.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
198.KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
If it’s either or, I’d drop Zack Miller like a bad habit.
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Since when are bad habits easy to drop playstation gm?
February 7th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
215.KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Al Davis Supremo Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
but a tight end is worth gold if he be good.
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When was the last time a Tight End was drafted in the top 10?
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Ricky the GATOR DUDly
February 7th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
KK, Vernon the Freak Davis.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
C’mon, KK — Who’s the TE without Zach? Name one better, that you know we can have. You can’t. You must not be much of a GM yourself.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Never said Miller wasn’t good.
I said IF, it’s Either him or Seymour or Nnamdi. I would drop Miller.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I like playstation. my raiders on madden are a beast , I should be a GM
February 7th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
I hope namdi stays, I wanted to get his jersey
February 7th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
232.da trinity Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
I like playstation. my raiders on madden are a beast , I should be a GM
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thats all good, but you have to share GM duties with Tj & KK if you want to be the Raisah GM, and share with Al too.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Hmmmmm…statistically speaking, wouldn’t it just make a whole lot of sense that there are more O- and D-linemen drafted in the top-10…considering there are probably about 1000% more Linemen playing than TE’s?
Don’t you think a team’s odds of finding a great one is better when the pickin’s are that much more? You bet they are. The odds of finding a great TE (let alone any position) are steep, and are why we need to keep Zach right where he is.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
If 21 leaves I’m gonna bust an egypt
February 7th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
If this team were a Playoff team…IF!…more of the players we’re talking about right now would be Pro Bowlers.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Everybody on this blog should meet at one time on the Raidah HQ doorstep and say to Al, Here we are, the new conglamoratized GM staff. He would say he still is the manager of the general partners, but still would be happy to see us.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Al does help, I let him draft the fastest player that year .
February 7th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
I’m the secret gm fyi
February 7th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
The fastest one to the cafeteria.
February 7th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Hererra is the secret gm, Al is the secret gm, now you?
February 7th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Amy is the secret sales rep.
February 7th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
And Mark is the secret son!
February 7th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Lol
February 7th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
The black hole is the secret force.
February 7th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
You guys think it’s waaaay too easy to replace qualified, PROVEN talent in the NFL…with kids coming out of college!
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So freekn true!
February 7th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
226.KoolKell Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Playstation GM’s.
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LOL – Another truism!
February 7th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
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February 7th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
We have a winning record without Aso, so why pay him so much money?
I think he’s one of the most overrated players in the league.
February 7th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Mayock: As many as nine defensive ends could go in the first
Posted by Evan Silva on February 7, 2011, 8:28 PM EST
NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock has been following the postseason all-star game circuit over the past several weeks, making stops in Orlando for the East-West Shrine, Mobile for the Senior Bowl, and San Antonio for the NFLPA game (formerly “Texas vs. Nation”). Mayock appeared on Total Access Monday evening for an update on the most talented position in this year’s draft class.
It’s defensive end by a long shot. Mayock projected as many as nine defensive ends being drafted in the first round, adding “You’re certainly gonna see seven or eight.”
Mayock pinpointed Clemson’s Da’Quan Bowers as the cream of this year’s crop, calling him a “top-five pick” with the potential to go No. 1 overall to the Panthers.
Added Mayock of Wisconsin defensive end J.J. Watt, “He’s a beast. He’s a first-round pick.” Mayock says he just finished watching tape on Watt, and ranked the onetime Central Michigan tight end as the premier 3-4 defensive end in the 2011 class. Cal’s Cameron Jordan and Ohio State’s Cameron Heyward are second and third, respectively.
February 7th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Cal puts a lot of players in the NFL every year to be perennial losers
February 7th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
I was not at all impressed with DE Cameron Heyward from OSU.
He’s Jay Richardson 2.0
February 7th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
252.priesttj Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Cal puts a lot of players in the NFL every year to be perennial losers
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Very funny, your joking.
33 current cal alumni on nfl rosters, 14 were in the playoffs, like yesterdays mvp, desmond bishop, and then desean jackson, aso, what the heck, read the link for yourself.
http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010311aaa.html
February 7th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
Jay Rich had one move and it was the wrong one.
February 7th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
A lot of teams make offers to certain coaches and nobody talks about it when a coach turns them down but if Al Davis is even rumored to be interested in someone and that coach doesn’t jump immediately on a plane to Oakland then it’s made into a big deal of “nobody wants to be in Oakland”.
February 7th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Dj, you saw our last 5 coaches. Really, no one wanted to be here.
The smart ones use it as a step stone.
February 7th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
HayezDayes,
The Raiders suck.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:25 am
– This year’s Super Bowl meal attraction at my house _ hickory smoked Turkey breast, soaked in a brine of apple juice, water, Kosher salt, brown sugar, maple syrup, sliced apples, sliced lemons, oregano and lemon pepper for 24 hours. Enough left over for a couple of days of sandwiches.
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I’ll stop by tomorrow.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:32 am
There’s a lot of Woodson stuff in Peter King’s Monday Morning Quarterback, including an exchange where King asked “what Al Davis might be saying tonight.”
Replied Woodson: “I should have never let him get out of here.”
In hindsight, absolutely. But face it, Woodson grew up as a professional in Green Bay in a way that never happened in Oakland. The Packers were the only team willing to ante up the kind of money the Raiders had been paying him.
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“Woodson grew up…in Green Bay..”
Or maybe he just got away from the manner in which Al Davis has run this team since the Madden/Flores eras.
There have often been stories about Woodson and other players not conditioning or preparing themselves for games as Raiders.
That has something to do with players being able to ignore coaches and go over them to Al who always undermines the coaches he hires.
That’s also the cause of the attitude that developed over the years.
You need to retire Al and restrict yourself to looking for talent.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:35 am
257.alex7 Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Dj, you saw our last 5 coaches. Really, no one wanted to be here.
The smart ones use it as a step stone.
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This is unfortunately true.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
No one here so early? And I thought I was late…
February 8th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Sup Hwnrdr
February 8th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Just wondering…. could I double that penny for 8 more days? LOL
February 8th, 2011 at 6:04 am
GOOD DAY HWNRDR,HAS HUE JACKSON BEEN FIRED YET ?
February 8th, 2011 at 6:09 am
Bcz24…LMAO…you could double it for another month if you want…
Dirt Lot…I hope not! That means I’ve been asleep for longer than I would want…LOL
February 8th, 2011 at 6:16 am
I posted that question on my FB… I was shocked at how many people got it wrong.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Morning Nation!
Any candidates in town yet??
February 8th, 2011 at 6:22 am
I just asked a coworker, she said she would take the million, then when I explained on the 30th day that that penny would have doubled to over 5 million, she said she would still take the million today…. and thats when I had to walk away.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:22 am
Haha…only the first commentor on mine got it wrong…after that, everyone else over analyzed it and kind of killed it…
Good Morning Carl…I know right? Isn’t that what Al and Hue was waiting for? Oh well…
February 8th, 2011 at 6:23 am
bcz24 Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 6:22 am
I just asked a coworker, she said she would take the million, then when I explained on the 30th day that that penny would have doubled to over 5 million, she said she would still take the million today…. and thats when I had to walk away.
WOW! Unless she knows of a plan that can make it more than that $5 Million…
February 8th, 2011 at 6:23 am
One positive out of drafting Jamarcus, there will most likely never be a day where another QB from that draft wins a SB.
Congrats niners on Alex Smith over Rodgers! We even have a better QB from that draft and we got him for a 4th round pick.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:38 am
From what draft? JaMarcus’ draft? What was that…’07? Who was the other QB’s taken besides Brady Quinn? I can’t remember or probably over looked it…
February 8th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Another QB from that draft? Who from that draft won a super bowl?
February 8th, 2011 at 6:42 am
WHY WOULD THAT BE A POSITIVE ?
February 8th, 2011 at 6:46 am
I guess because we drafted JaMarcus and there isn’t gonna be a qb from that draft that will win a Super Bowl. He was referencing how SF should have taken Rodgers instead of Smith and look what happened…???
February 8th, 2011 at 6:49 am
mornin DLF, 24, Hwnrdr, Carl, NATION!
February 8th, 2011 at 6:50 am
The draft is the same crap shoot as assuming that the guy that said he’d double the money, still will double the money after the next day and the next day and the next day. Who knows how that will effect him and maybe he’ll just crumble and stop paying out the money.
The up front million is like a vet free agent. You know what you are going to get. It doesn’t have as high a potential max, but the risk is very small.
So do you go for the bird in the hand or not?
February 8th, 2011 at 6:50 am
Morning Raccoon!
February 8th, 2011 at 6:52 am
Morning Bad Mood Guy…at first I was wondering what exactly you were talking about and t hen I read it again…
Nice scenario for that Penny or a Million question!
February 8th, 2011 at 6:54 am
GOOD DAY 2 U DIRTEE RACCOON..
February 8th, 2011 at 6:59 am
It would be a positive in that no one could say we should have drafted this QB or that QB. Sure there were some great players taken but none were QB’s…
There weren’t many QB’s taken that year, Troy Smith, Trent Edwards, Beck from Miami.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:01 am
#276 sums it up as well…
February 8th, 2011 at 7:03 am
I thought driving in the snow in ABQ was bad enough for my poor Sonata, now I am near the four corners area, slip-sliding around a town I have no idea whatsoever where I am going.
If I make it through the next 3 days without smashing into something, I will be elated.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:11 am
Man that 2007 NFL draft stunk!!
I was just looking at the top 10, you got Jamarcus, Jamal Anderson, Ted Ginn and Levi Brown all as big time flops, and Gaines Adams who is dead.
A handful of other guys throughout the first round (Reggie Nelson, Brady Quinn and Jarvis Moss) who there teams already gave up on.
Yikes!!! And not even one legitimate starting QB in the whole draft, unless you count Trent Edwards.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:16 am
Hey, Rotoworld has moved outta tha ghetto!
February 8th, 2011 at 7:19 am
I dont mean to laugh at you JFB… but I am laughing. I guess its because we got more than 4 inches last night (which is nothing) and its negative 30 with the windchill right now, and this is just normal to me.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:30 am
http://www.beerinfo.com/ Banned bud commercial
February 8th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Not normal to me!!!
I don’t even carry an ice-scraper for my car, lol. I had to use an enrollment kit/folder this morning.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:34 am
258.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 7th, 2011 at 11:36 pm
HayezDayes,
The Raiders suck.
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Wow! We just come off an 8-8 season winning 3 more games than the previous year. We get what appears to be a nice upgrade at HC, we end the season by thumping a division rival on the road, and we “suck”?
February 8th, 2011 at 7:35 am
JFB
You are so right I went back and looked at that draft . Man worst draft class in a long time, figures we would have the no. 1 overall pick . I actually wished we drafted for depth instead of need at QB.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:39 am
Well I am off to the next location.
Hopefully it is the Power Plant that I am scheduled for and not a ditch on the side of the road.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:40 am
LOL. I have the master extendo-snowbrush! Its like 6′ long when fully extended!
February 8th, 2011 at 7:49 am
bcz24 Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 7:40 am
LOL. I have the master extendo-snowbrush! Its like 6′ long when fully extended!
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LOL, same here, got it at Costco. There was a time when I was in a pinch with a rental and I had to use my credit card. That sucked!
February 8th, 2011 at 7:49 am
This upcoming season is really the ultimate litmus test for Al Davis imo.
By firing Cable and installing Hue Jackson, he has thrown it all out there. This is ALL on Al.
Coming off 8-8 with the arrow pointed up, you fire the HC that got you there because you say they should have done much better than that. So, here it is!
If Raiders do worse than that it really shows that Al doesn’t have a clue how to be successful in this league anymore. People will point to the “horrible decision” he made by firing Cable and ruining a team that was on the rise. On the flip side, if we win 11 games AND the division then it ‘justifies’ Al’s decision to fire Cable, so for Al Davis, THIS IS IT!
This season will be the tipping point for any Al Davis fence sitters for sure.
Even if they DO win 11 games and make the playoffs it won’t mean anything to the Al haters, who will refuse to give him ANY credit for anything whatsoever, but I think the results we see this year will certainly solidify and justify the criticism of Al if we do in fact collapse.
You fire Cable after 8-8, then you are saying THIS TEAM is a playoff team and maybe more, then you better darn well have a very good season.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:53 am
I agree Johnny! I agree!!!
February 8th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Good Morning Nation!
February 8th, 2011 at 8:14 am
Disaster #2 averted.
Seems teams are putting a premium on O-line guys this offseason.
The new Titans HC, Cable getting an Assistant HC label, the Eagles switching their O-line guy to DC, etc.
February 8th, 2011 at 8:15 am
I know right? Oh well…
February 8th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Hue Jackson is walking into a better position than any of our recent coaches did.
6-0 in the division, a steady but unspectacular QB, a solid running game and some youth at key spots.
However, he also has more expectations than any other coach.
February 8th, 2011 at 8:31 am
I wonder if the Giant Gummi Bear business that use to advertise here ever made it?
That was one of Jerry’s first advertisers. Now he has moved up to Levi’s, McDonalds and other big boys.
February 8th, 2011 at 8:35 am
G’morning fellas.
Alright, The Pack have had a day to celebrate, have their parade and lovefest at Lambeau.
Now, the important question…who’s boarding a plane to Alameda? Perry, Moss or both.
I thought Moss would/should be the frontrunner. But, after reading some of you guys talking about how secondary coaches make the better DC’s, now I’m not so sure. They both have Raider ties.
Should Perry’s tax issues send up any red flags about his character/judgement? Or is that a total nonissue?
February 8th, 2011 at 8:40 am
I think Al Davis wants to interview both of them, and maybe the Steelers coaches to, and anyone else he can get down to Alameda. He’ll give the job to whomever has the lowest expectations…
February 8th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Should Perry’s tax issues send up any red flags about his character/judgement? Or is that a total nonissue?
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Apparently, the only thing Al cares about in regards to character flaws is bringing your slutty girlfriend on the road.
In that SI article KoolKell references a million times over from the 90’s, Winston Moss takes some shots on the record in the inner-workings of the Raiders. I know he later interviewed here, but I am curious if he is just using Al to heighten his career, or if he is willing to overlook the things HE CITED from his playing days here.
February 8th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Vegas,
didn’t you mention once upon a time that you are from Chico? You must be walking around like a puffed up rooster.
Cal boy does good. Yay.
that makes four now for me. four times that I have watched a Super Bowl and thoroughly enjoyed the outcome.
Joe Willie over the Colts, Doug Williams and Tim Smith punking 35 in the 2nd quarter on the Donks, David Tyree sinking the ‘cheats, and now Aaron Rodgers shattering the myth of Pitts invincible D.
Most of the XLV games I haven’t watched simply because I disliked the participants or simply didn’t care.
Others, like each of the three Raider victories I had no access to a television. (yes Raider Nation, y’all better hope that I’m living without media access in some tiny village in the Brasilian outback when the Raiders are again in the Super Bowl ’cause they haven’t won one when I could see it, and they haven’t lost one when I couldn’t.)
And others that I did watch, like wide right Norwood and Derrick Mason coming up a yard short were not the outcomes I wished.
Glad that Rodgers came through making up for many lousy Super Sundays.
February 8th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Waufle will end up the DC. No one else is coming in.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:02 am
I went to college in Chico, and actually worked and played baseball at the Community College (Butte) that Aaron went too.
My fighting Roadrunner pride is at an all-time high.
Cool piece in the pregame show on Aaron and Chico and such, only they chinced out and showed the in-town satellite campus for Butte College.
Was kind of disappointed in that.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:03 am
What all did Moss have to say? I don’t think it was anything too major. Nothing that would be a deal breaker or put him on Al’s enemy of the state list, obviously.
Seems like he said something about being in Seattle and looking over to the other sideline and seeing some confusion and/or fighting and arguing going on. Something along those lines.
Maybe there was more to it that I don’t remember from one of Kell’s many postings.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:12 am
Vegas,
the local paper here in the Bay Area had a spread on Rodgers on Saturday. Talking with people drom Chico and Oroville. An accompanying photo to the article showed a woman staff member from Pleasant Valley HS in her office/Aaron Rodgers shrine.
Jerseys and photos and memorabilia adorned the walls plus a small item it was barely able to make out amid all of the Rodgers stuff. It was a bumper sticker plastered amid the things that read : “Don’t make me come down there.” – God
Guess the Big Guy doesn’t have to descend from his throne ’cause Aaron did the job.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:14 am
This is what Moss had to say in the ‘96 article…
To Seahawks linebacker Winston Moss, who played for the Raiders from 1991 to ‘94, the action on the visitors’ sideline was all too familiar. “There were guys fighting, tirades from coaches to players and coaches to coaches,” Moss says. “You could tell they were tired, just going through the motions.”
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008197/2/index.htm#ixzz1DO9JBrk6
February 8th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Good memory Buckeye.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:41 am
I think the earth is round!
February 8th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Fatkid, I don’t care what anybody says about you…you’re a smart guy!
The earth is round?
February 8th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Offensive Line Schemes -Bill Williamson-ESPN
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By Bill WilliamsonOffensive line schemes have become important in the AFC West recently.
It appears the Oakland Raiders will likely move from a zone-blocking scheme to a power-blocking scheme. Oakland just hired Bob Wylie to run the offense. Wylie specializes in a power-blocking scheme. Former Oakland coach Tom Cable used a zone-blocking scheme.
Wylie coached the offensive line in Denver in 2009. Former coach Josh McDaniels moved away from the zone-blocking scheme that Mike Shanahan used and that McDaniels adopted in 2008. Wylie was not retained by new Denver coach John Fox. There has been speculation that Fox could move back to a zone-blocking scheme but Fox hasn’t publicly made any announcements.
A reader, Drew in Denver, who said he is a Raider fan, asked if we could explain the differences in the two schemes so he can know what to expect if Oakland makes the scheme switch. I enlisted Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. to discuss the differences. Here are his thoughts:
“The zone-blocking scheme depends on athletic, smaller linemen who can move together. When used correctly, it opens up the running game and works well with a downhill runner. The thing about using the zone-blocking scheme is you don’t have to spend a first-round pick on a lineman. You can look for smaller, athletic guys and find them in the later rounds. I don’t have a preference between the zone or power scheme. Both can be effective.
“The power-blocking scheme is traditional and a lot of teams use it. You get big, 300-pound plus fat, strong powerful guys and tell them to go knock down their guy. It’s straight forward, go-get ‘em scheme that a lot of teams use.”
Williamson said while both schemes can be effective, it is difficult to make the transition because the two schemes are so drastically different as far as personnel goes. It takes awhile to successfully switch because it’s difficult to find a new group of linemen to use the new scheme.
Williamson said doesn’t think Oakland should switch because it was effective using the zone-blocking scheme. Oakland had the No. 2 ranked run offense in the NFL last season.
“I don’t think they have great offensive linemen, but they got a lot lot out of the in the run game,” Williamson said. “Darren McFadden could be good in the power-blocking scheme, too, but why change? It’s going to take a long time to get new personnel to fit the scheme if that’s what they are going to do. I know coach Hue Jackson came from Baltimore and he is used to that AFC North power scheme, but I just don’t why Oakland would mess with its run-game success.”
Williamson said Denver has personnel to fit both schemes because it made the move last year. He doesn’t think second-year center J.D. Walton and second-year guard Zane Beadles are good fits for the zone-blocking scheme while the other linemen can work in both. Williamson said the Broncos might want to stick with the power-blocking scheme for now because they need to use all draft and free-agency resources on a defense that was ranked last in the NFL last year.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:50 am
That’s the type of thing that goes on all over the NFL where passions are high and nerves are frazzled. Ditka and Ryan come to blows at halftime in Miami. Buddy takes a round house swing at his OC in Houston.
Keyshawn throws a towel in Gruden’s face. Chad Johnson has to be restrained in a headlock. On and on and on….
Only when it happens in Oakland with NFL public enemy #1 in charge does it become a damning, sweeping indictment of organizational dysfunction. Seemingly.
That’s just par for the course regarding the Raiders. The love/hate relationship with the media. Maybe just hate. Al treats the media with mistrust and contempt and they are more than happy to return the favor.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Waufle will end up the DC. No one else is coming in
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BCZ,
you think he wants the job?
Jerry Mac has said several times that he’s content being a D-Line Coach and has no aspirations of moving on up – even if it were offered to him!
February 8th, 2011 at 9:59 am
The Raiders already have the personnel to switch from zone to power. Satele and Carlisle are the only starters that seem to be best suited to zone-blocking. Veldheer, Gallery and Walker are all easily 310+ pounds and if we stick Bruce Campbell, Khalif Barnes, or Daniel Loper in at RG, we would basically have a power line, in need of an upgrade at Center.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Broncos looking to trade no. 2 pick?
Franchise icon John Elway is trying to make the difficult transition to the front office and his first course of action in his rebuilding process may be to deal away the second pick of the draft.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Nnamdhi aso for the no# 2 pick and champ bailey
February 8th, 2011 at 10:05 am
His name is spelled Nnamdi, and he can’t be traded. He’s a free agent.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:11 am
BCZ,
you think he wants the job?
Jerry Mac has said several times that he’s content being a D-Line Coach and has no aspirations of moving on up – even if it were offered to him!
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I hadnt seen that… then Bresnahan it is
February 8th, 2011 at 10:12 am
#320
I might be mistaken, but I believe Champ is a free agent too.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:13 am
IF (and it is a big IF) a rookie salary cap can be arranged in a new CBA, before the draft, the #2 overall pick would suddenly be a very lucrative bargaining chip, unlike in years past, when nobody wanted to touch the first 5 picks, unless they were gunning for a QB.
Elway could have numerous suitors, but probably not until after Carolina has selected. Could be a very exciting first round, maybe Al even has something up his sleeve to get back in it. He has been looking at late first round prospects, as if he has a chance to get them.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Buenos dias mi gente!
February 8th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Broncos looking to trade no. 2 pick?
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Rolando McClain & Tyvon Branch should be enough to get this done
then we can re-sign Kirk Morrison to compete with Travis Goethel at MLB. Mike Mitchell will be the SS
Deal?
February 8th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Rolando McClain & Tyvon Branch should be enough to get this done
then we can re-sign Kirk Morrison to compete with Travis Goethel at MLB. Mike Mitchell will be the SS
Deal?
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Ill go be a Bills fan…
February 8th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Bresnahan it is
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BCZ,
thats what I’m thinking … and then we’ll get some no-name LB Coach from the college ranks (unless Don “wink” Martindale wants to come back)
February 8th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Kirk Morrison?
Hahahaha
LMAO
February 8th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Kirks a Jaguar.
Get over it.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Ill go be a Bills fan
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seriously?
trading 2 defensive players for the #2 overall draft pick and use it to draft the best offensive player on the board (QB, OT, WR)
it’s not like this defense would whither away and die if McClain & Branch weren’t a part of it – especially if we re-sign Seymour, Wimbley, Asomugha & Huff next month!
February 8th, 2011 at 10:28 am
McClain> Kirk
Get over it
February 8th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Kirks a Jaguar.
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and “Ronaldo” is a kitten, booyah!
February 8th, 2011 at 10:31 am
#2 pick and draft who??
February 8th, 2011 at 10:33 am
It wasn’t as much as what Winston Moss said in that interview, it’s that he went on the record with it.
SI does a piece attempting to rip Al to shreds, and they only get 2 or 3 former players to go on record taking shots at the Raiders, and Winston was one of them.
The way Al holds vendettas, it would suprise me if Al just swept that under the rug.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:37 am
BBB is dead on with the valuation of top picks with a rookie salary cap.
If there is a salary-cap, those picks are going to be drastically more valuable to teams.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:42 am
JFB is right about Al holding a grudge against Moss. Al is not getting more abiding and pleasant in his old age; he is going after everyone that has made any negative comments about him or the Raiders, ever. I feel like his office is probably wallpapered with press-clippings from 1963 to present, with every negative word ever spoke about the organization. When Moss’s name came up as a DC candidate, Al probably thought to himself; “That name sounds familiar, Herrera wheel me over to the southwest corner…yes, yes here it is; Sports Illustrated, 1993, Winston Moss. OK start the negative PR blitz against this man’s character. He’ll never work in this town again.”
February 8th, 2011 at 10:43 am
r8eray Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 10:31 am
#2 pick and draft who??
………..let Al decide who too pick thats why he is getting $25 an hour.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Like I’ve said many times, if they go to an all-out power scheme at the O-line, it may work well for them down the road, but 2011 would be a disaster.
I hope Soup has his dancing shoes ready, because the run game will suffer and pass-protection won’t improve immediately.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:44 am
#2 pick and draft who??
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I don’t watch college football, ray.
that includes the senior bowl and the combine
But every year there is at least 1 QB, OT or WR in the Top 5 overall picks that ends up being an absolute stud!
February 8th, 2011 at 10:49 am
TOP 5
Panthers – Nick Fairley
Broncos – De’Qwan Bowers
Bills – Von Miller
Bengals – AJ Green
Cardinals – Blaine Gabbert
February 8th, 2011 at 10:49 am
al too Numdhi we want you too stay in oakland but we need you too take a pay cut.numdhi okay al where do i sign.al=right here.al = welcome back next day numdhi pack a bag your traded to denver.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Like I’ve said many times, if they go to an all-out power scheme at the O-line, it may work well for them down the road, but 2011 would be a disaster.
I hope Soup has his dancing shoes ready, because the run game will suffer and pass-protection won’t improve immediately.
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JFB,
we’re looking at 4 new starters on the O-Line, DHB with 16 starts at WR again and musical chairs at QB with Jason Campbell and probably Alex Smith
and if we can’t retain Michael Bush, Marcel Reece & Zach Miller our offense might drop from 6th to 26th!
February 8th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I dont want Al to get a top-5 pick, we need a top-30 pick: Gabe Carimi or Stefen Wisniewski.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:51 am
But every year there is at least 1 QB, OT or WR in the Top 5 overall picks that ends up being an absolute stud!
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Except 2007
February 8th, 2011 at 10:51 am
hey just fire baby:
where you at in nm?
burque, lv?
im in the mountains…take it easy out there in the snow / ice.
you will be just fine.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:54 am
misconceptions -
a year ago when Al hired HueJack effectively making Cable the time-out coordinator, HueJack said then that the Raiders were going to institute more power schemes in the run game, not just the ZBS. (McF went from avg of 20 yds/game over two years of exclusive CableZBS
to ~100yds/game under HueJack’s plan.)
the transition to power scheme already began a year ago.
all Raider linemen on last year’s roster weighed in at more than 3 bills, including Samson (305 I believe).
Raiders are not gonna trade with Horseteeth for the #2. Likely Al will deal again with the ‘cheats if he wants to move up ’cause they have 3 of the top 33 picks.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:56 am
I live in ABQ, but I am in Farmington today and tomorrow and Cortez, CO on Thursday.
Sun is up, and snow is melting, but it was kind of hairy this morning.
What mountains are you in? Jemez or Sandia?
February 8th, 2011 at 10:56 am
2007 #2 Calvin Johnson
2007 #3 Joe Thomas
February 8th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Update: Sports Illustrated’s Peter King asked Woodson “what Al Davis might be saying tonight.” Woodson replied: “I should have never let him get out of here.”) Charles Woodson broke his collarbone late in the first half of the Super Bowl, and the Packers cornerback left the game with his team… so now woodson is damaged goods and Al was right again.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:58 am
The Raiders were #2 rushing in the NFL with a rookie Division II tackle, a good left guard and a bunch of cast-offs. It either ain’t that hard or they are already better than people here give them credit for.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 10:49 am
TOP 5
Panthers – Nick Fairley
Broncos – De’Qwan Bowers
Bills – Von Miller
Bengals – AJ Green
Cardinals – Blaine Gabbert
$$$$$$$$$$
I think Patt Paterson from LSU is the best athelete in the draft.
Physical CB that mans up really well.
Dont see any problems when he plays zone.
Guy is not afraid to get dirty and make a tackle.
What are your thoughts on him sir?
Where do you think he will be selected?
Should Mr davis trade up into the 1st rd to get him?
I would love to see him opposite of asomugha, rather than to use him to replace asomugha
February 8th, 2011 at 11:01 am
I think Patterson will go top 10, and he could sneak into the top 5 with Buffalo maybe (they love DB’s who return kicks).
I really thought he wasn’t all that great in the bowl game against Texas A & M. Gave up a handful of receptions to some stiffs.
But he is an impressive physical specimen, and his kick returning is off the charts as well.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:03 am
The quarterback position in Oakland took on a musical chairs format in 2010. Jason Campbell started the first two games before he was benched for Bruce Gradkowski. He re-gained the reins in week six after a Gradkowski injury, only to land back on the sidelines in week 12. But new Raiders head coach Hue Jackson wants to make one thing clear: Campbell is his starting quarterback for next season. “There’s no question he is,” Jackson said of Campbell on Monday. “The guy won some very important games. The guy played hurt. The guy got to know his teammates, rallied his team, and finished very strong. He helped us win, obviously, every game in our division, there’s no question he is definitely the unquestioned starter on this football team at this point. But I think he knows without any shadow of a doubt, there’s work to do, and we have to do a great job of surrounding him, putting better players around him so he can go out and be the quarterback that we all know he can be.”He is the next Jim Plunkett!
February 8th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Carmelo heading to L.A.!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6101304&campaign=rss&source=twitter&ex_cid=Twitter_espn_6101304
February 8th, 2011 at 11:04 am
After a bloated Super Bowl in Dallas, it’s time to rein in big game
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/07/AR2011020705610.html?referrer=emailarticle
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NFL hosing fans.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Oakland Raiders face uphill battle and long odds heading towards Super Bowl XLVI
The Oakland Raiders finally concluded a season without double digit losses since their Super Bowl appearance in 2002, but it looks as if they will face an uphill battle and long odds if they are going to be hoisting the Lombardi Trophy next February. Bodog.com has issued their preliminary odds of reaching and winning next season’s Super Bowl, and the Oakland Raiders are among the teams with the longest odds. Bodog has given the Oakland Raiders a 50/1 chance of winning Super Bowl XLVI. Divisional opponent, the San Diego Chargers, are the fourth favorite team figured to fitted for rings next February at 12/1. The Chargers follow the current odds on favorite Green Bay Packers, (7/1), the New England Patriots (8/1) and the Pittsburgh Steelers (10/1). Defending AFC West champions, the Kansas City Chiefs opened with 35/1 odds and the Denver Broncos are 60/1 to win next season’s Super Bowl. Bodog has simply issued their odds as to which team will win the Super Bowl.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:13 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 10:56 am
2007 #2 Calvin Johnson
2007 #3 Joe Thomas
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Sorry couldnt see past the stench of the ‘deuce’ we dropped #1 overall…
February 8th, 2011 at 11:15 am
http://twitter.com/#!/Huffy247
February 8th, 2011 at 11:15 am
M Lonetree Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 10:58 am
The Raiders were #2 rushing in the NFL with a rookie Division II tackle, a good left guard and a bunch of cast-offs. It either ain’t that hard or they are already better than people here give them credit for.
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They were pretty terrible in pass blocking. RT is going to have to get addressed as well, Langston Walker aint getting any younger, and he surely isnt getting any better either.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:17 am
O-line solution.
Draft Wiz in the 2nd.
Sign Gaither.
Re-sign Gallery.
Veldheer-Gallery-Wiz-Campbell-Gaither
WOW!!!!!!!!
February 8th, 2011 at 11:19 am
bcz24 Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 11:13 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 10:56 am
2007 #2 Calvin Johnson
2007 #3 Joe Thomas
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Sorry couldnt see past the stench of the ‘deuce’ we dropped #1 overall
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Very understandable bcz24, that is a strong stench…
February 8th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Imagine if we had drafted Megatron. I would be happy just to have a Raiders jersey made that said Megatron on the back lol
February 8th, 2011 at 11:23 am
vw commercial little kid dressed like darth vader would go un-noticed in the black hole!
February 8th, 2011 at 11:23 am
we’re looking at 4 new starters on the O-Line, DHB with 16 starts at WR again and musical chairs at QB with Jason Campbell and probably Alex Smith
and if we can’t retain Michael Bush, Marcel Reece & Zach Miller our offense might drop from 6th to 26th!
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What’s with all the doom and gloom, RRS? It’s unlikely we have 4 new starters on O line and I doubt that Campbell is going to get benched if he plays at least at an average level. If anything, I see more stability on offense.
Once the CBA is done, Reece, Miller and Bush will likely be RFAs anyway.
I see the team improving on what they did last year with a better coach than what we had. Cable served his purpose as head cheerleader and I applaud him for it, but I think he was holding the team back.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:29 am
I think RT is biggest area of need in off-season.
D-line is best its been in awhile
we got our QB starter, for better or worse
McFadden is almost an elite RB
Adding a veteran WR is a bigger need, but Al seems committed to the youngsters
DB’s are entrenched, even without Nnamdi
The Truth has TE locked down
Weakside OLB is important, but Moss, Groves and Goethel should get first crack at it.
Veldheer, Loper and/or Gallery are starters
Satele is decent, if a bit underpowered
Carlisle is consistent, but undersized and Campbell is waiting to go, if needed.
Langston Walker is an average run-blocker at best, but a terrible pass-blocker, TERRIBLE. This offense will continue to struggle if we can’t protect J-Soup, gotta upgrade the pass-blocking first and foremost.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:46 am
I agree bring in some hogs for out O line
February 8th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Biggest positions of need:
1. RT
2. OG (LG if Gallery leaves)
3. C
4. WR
5. CB (considering both starters are FAs)
6. C
7. S (if Huff leaves)
8. WLB
Luckily the draft has quite a few players who can play OG or RT.
Not a lot of clear “franchise left tackles” though.
I have a feeling that if Al is going to address the receiving corps this season, it’s going to be by bringing in another speedy mid/late-round project.
Satele improved over the course of the season, but is he a fit for a power-blocking scheme?
The WLB position could certainly be improved, but Groves and Goethel might get the first crack at the job. Both showed some potential last season. Still wouldn’t surprise me to see an OLB drafted, though.
I think there are some good options at free safety available through free agency if Huff can’t be re-signed.
CB is the biggest question mark. A lot depends on how free agency plays out.
Of course, this completely changes if the Raiders are thinking about going to the 3-4.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
With all that said…
Jay_Glazer
Wanna get something straight, ppl keep asking which players r signing where, trades, etc. Its all just garbage talk until a CBA is reached.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Greg Biekert, who joined the Raiders coaching staff in July of 2010 as an assistant coach on defense, returns in 2011 as linebacker coach
That means Chuck Bresnahan is the DC
February 8th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
the Raiders announced it on twitter!
February 8th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
It’s possible that the Packers “politely declined” to allow the Raiders to interview Moss or Perry…
February 8th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
ouch, sounds like the Raiders got rebuffed by Moss, Perry and/or the Packers.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Greg Biekert, who joined the Raiders coaching staff in July of 2010 as an assistant coach on defense, returns in 2011 as linebacker coach
That means Chuck Bresnahan is the DC
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Why not announce it now, then?
February 8th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
If the Biekert promotion is a defacto designation of Bresnehan as DC, it’s more backasswardsness from the organization.
Maybe not the attacking, zone-blitz scheme we were rumored to go then, hm?
February 8th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
The Steelers reportedly blocked the Cardinals from interview LBs coach Keith Butler for their defensive coordinator job.
The Rooney family is simply protecting its investment here. After handing Butler a hefty raise in response to the Cardinals’ interest last season, they placed a clause in his contract allowing them to deny permission for an interview elsewhere.
Source: XTRA 910 Phoenix
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Thats some BS, that teams can deny interviews.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Greg Biekert, who joined the Raiders coaching staff in July of 2010 as an assistant coach on defense, returns in 2011 as linebacker coach
That means Chuck Bresnahan is the DC
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has chuck been announced as DC yet?
February 8th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go DUBS!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
February 8th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Thats some BS, that teams can deny interviews.
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Teams are only required to allow contracted coaches interview for HC. Otherwise it is what it is… the coach signed the contract and is required to honor it.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Biekert to LB coach doesn’t necessarily mean Bresnahan’s new defensive coordinator (ok, maybe it does). Move “stands on it’s own” team says
Vito Tafur
February 8th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Of course Vegas is putting the Raiders at 50 to 1 to win the Super Bowl next year.
The team’s de facto general manager is a PROVEN senile 80 year old man, who just fired his head coach after the team’s best season in nearly a decade.
Their new head coach refers to Al Davis as “coach”. Doesn’t bode well for a team with a history of head coaches being used as puppets.
Their quarterback is a mediocre castaway who might be the worst QB in NFL history when under pressure. Can not pick up blitzes, period.
They have no established possession receiver, and no deep threat with hands, or even any ability to fight for the football.
The senile owner runs the defense, which is horrible against the run, every year, and uses man coverage so much that many offensive coordinators around the league consider Raider games a week off. They go and visit their families.
A former MVP quarterback said that the organization was CHAOS, even when the team was winning. That would convince oddsmakers to lengthen the odds on the Raiders winning it all even if they didn’t have the problems above.
Basically, Vegas is giving the Raiders such long odds because unlike fans, their job is to look at the Raiders for what they are.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Their quarterback is a mediocre castaway who might be the worst QB in NFL history when under pressure. Can not pick up blitzes, period.
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I guess you never saw Marc Wilson play
February 8th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Yup Captain Douchers arrival signals my que to exit stage left… see yall in the AM
February 8th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Their quarterback is a mediocre castaway who might be the worst QB in NFL history when under pressure. Can not pick up blitzes, period.
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I guess you never saw Marc Wilson play
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Don’t remind me!!!
February 8th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Agreed on Marc Wilson, Kell, but he’s not in the league right now. Jason Campbell is, and he can not play when under a pass rush.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
You didnt say in the league right now, you said in NFL History.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Glad to see you say you agreed with someone on something though. Thats progress.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Campbell is worse than Wilson under pressure. He’s the worst ever. There.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
And, I thought you were leaving, Bcz?
February 8th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Allen’s strained relationship with Davis reached an all-time low in December 1992. During halftime of the Raiders-Dolphins game on Monday Night Football, a taped interview between Al Michaels and Allen was broadcast, with Allen stating that Davis “told me he was going to get me.” Allen further stated, “I think he’s [Davis] tried to ruin the latter part of my career, tried to devalue me. He’s trying to stop me from going to the Hall of Fame. They don’t want me to play.”[7]
Allen eventually left Los Angeles and joined the Kansas City Chiefs in 1993. Although he only rushed for 764 yards that year, he scored 12 touchdowns,[3] leading the AFC,[8] as he and Joe Montana led the Chiefs to the AFC Championship Game. As a result, Allen was named the NFL Comeback Player of the Year. Allen went on to play for the Chiefs for four more seasons, leading the team in rushing every year but his last. Allen’s main contribution to the Chiefs was his leadership. The Chiefs won more games than any other NFL team during his tenure in Kansas City. Allen made many contributions to charitable causes off the field in Kansas City, while also hosting his own talk show on Sunday mornings before Chiefs games.
Allen retired after the 1997 season.[3] In 1999, he was ranked 72nd on The Sporting News’ list of the 100 Greatest Football Players. Allen was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2003.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Waiting for my car to warm up. Nothing worse than leather seats on a day where the temperature with the windchill is negative 20 right now.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Marc Wilson arguably had the most talent around him of any quarterback in the NFL and couldn’t pass or lead.
of course as Mr. Howie Long once said Jay Schrader cost me three Super Bowls rings
Raiders have had their share of bad QBs:
Marinovich
Russell
Schrader
Wilson
Mr. Jason Campbell is much better than each all of these guys.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Please excuse my ignorance.
But when players get elcected into the NFL hall of fame, do you go in with a certain team attched?
Or is is just NFL hall of fame, “no team needed”
Is it simialr to baseball where you make you go in with a certain team?
February 8th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Mr. Marcus Allen, I think it was his first year with Kansas City also knocked our Raiders out of the playoffs in the final game of the season, with a solid rushng/recieving performance as I recall.
Nothing Al Davis ever did set the Raiders back more than mistreating Marcus. In fact Raiders never made the playoffs while Marcus was in Kansas City.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Drew Bledsoe was horrible under pressure too. Way worse than Campbell, imo.
Campbell had some pretty big runs last year, no?
February 8th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Marcus Allen is a Raider, would have probably be listed as the greatest Raider of all-time (instead of #10), and at the very least the second greatest Raider (Mr. Shell & Mr. Upshaw combination were considered the greatest Raiders of all time) of all time if not for the Davis-Marcus fued.
February 8th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Remember many of Jason’s worse games were with Mario at LT, thankfully that will never happen again.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Campbell had some pretty big runs last year, no?
$$$$$$$$$$
Campbell had some great scrambles to keep drives alive.
First drive at Denver.
3rd and 5 = False start
3rd and 10 = No one open, He scrambles up the middle and heads toward sideline.
Couple playes later, Play action/Mis-direction pass to a wide open Zach Miller.
I for one would LOVE to see Campbell utilioze his legs more often.
May Coach Jackson will implement for bootlegs/roll-outs this year… I know I sure hope so…
February 8th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
so many typos on my part… i dont feel like making any corrections to it.
I just hope you guys can figure out what words i tried to use and substitue for yourself…
February 8th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Agree RaiderRetribution. Marcus Allen absolutely carried the Raiders on his back. He didn’t have Upshaw, Shell, Stabler etal to lean on.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Looks like Al better get his shiz-nit together, sounds as if the Cards DC options are dwindeling and Moss is one of two remaining….
Come on man!!
February 8th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
San Jose PD report Steelers fan attacked by Raiders devotees before Super Bowl:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_17329911
This must be that “criminal element” that Pittsburgh complained about in the 70’s,lol.
What are they gonna do…SUE US AGAIN!Hahahahahahahaha.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Nothing Al Davis ever did set the Raiders back more than mistreating Marcus. In fact Raiders never made the playoffs while Marcus was in Kansas City.
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Yup. Horrible, horrible decision on his part. Maybe the worst he ever made; worse than drafting Russell.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Speaking of QBs struggling under pressure…
I would like to cast my vote for Mr. Jamarcus Russell.
Guy would be so scared while back peddling, it was a blessing if he actually got sacked.
Would never even try to fight off a sack. Such an easy target for Defenders.
Sometimes would even go down without defender being able to put a hand on him.
A no-contact Sack.
Sometimes he would attempt to throw the ball, only to have it slip out of his hand for a fumble.
(Actually saw him do this atleast 3 times by my unofficial count)
February 8th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Just minutes after a radio report surfaced in Arizona that the Cardinals were ready to hire Steelers secondary coach Ray Horton as their coordinator, there is news that Horton has a job offer with the Cowboys.
Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports Horton has left to take a position with the Cowboys, presumably under coordinator Rob Ryan. (UPDATE: La Canfora has corrected his initial report, saying Horton has an offer on the table from both the Cowboys are Cardinals.) We mentioned earlier that there were conflicting reports about the Arizona hire.
The Cardinals reportedly requested permission to speak with Horton, Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler, and Packers inside linebackers coach Winston Moss. Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic has confirmed the Steelers denied the Cardinals permission to speak with Butler.
UPDATE II: Somers says there’s “no way” Horton is going to Dallas. He’s scheduled to interview with the Cardinals on Wednesday.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/08/horton-hears-a-job-offer-from-the-cowboys/
February 8th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Armchair,
Theattackers “claimed to be Raider fans”. Maybe it was MR?
February 8th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Biekert promoted to LBers coach…..does this make Chuck B the D Coordinator now?
February 8th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Biekert promoted to LBers coach…..does this make Chuck B the D Coordinator now?
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I guess so………
February 8th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
406.Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Biekert promoted to LBers coach…..does this make Chuck B the D Coordinator now?
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Tafur being coy about it on his Twitter. On one hand he says this: “Biekert to LB coach doesn’t necessarily mean Bresnahan’s new defensive coordinator (ok, maybe it does). ”
Then turns around and tells some people this:
“@ElijahJoesph means no announcement/news on DC or Bresnahan coming that’s linked to Biekert promotion
2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to ElijahJoesph
.@Steve_Key they’ve had extra offensive and defensive coaches before
3 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to Steve_Key”
So I don’t even know what to think.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Greg Biekert, who joined the Raiders coaching staff in July of 2010 as an assistant coach on defense, returns in 2011 as linebacker coach for the Silver Black.
“I’m excited to re-connect with one of the true and great Raiders,” said Raiders Head Coach Hue Jackson. “His vision and mine are right in line with each other.”
Biekert played 11 seasons in the NFL including nine with the Oakland Raiders—from 1993-2001.
Drafted by the Raiders in the seventh round out of Colorado in 1993, Biekert never missed a regular season game in 11 seasons, seeing action in 176 league contests with 155 starts. After playing 11 seasons for the Raiders, Biekert spent two seasons with the Minnesota Vikings.
His career totals included 16 sacks, seven interceptions, 10 forced fumbles and six fumble recoveries. Biekert also played in six postseason games with the Silver and Black, starting the 2000 AFC Championship Game at middle linebacker, racking up a game-high 16 tackles and recovering Tom Brady’s fumble in the “Tuck Game” against the New England Patriots in the 2001 AFC Divisional Playoffs.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
just read it on yahoo and followed up on Raiders.com
you guys are correct and it is official Mr. Biekert is the Raiders’ linebacker coach
I like the hire/promotion.
I think it makes it slim chances that Moss or Perry,with C.B. on staff, but still hoping for W. Moss to come over as defensive coordinator.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
“…recovering Tom Brady’s fumble in the ‘Tuck Game’…”
Gotta love that little tidbit.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Boy, Hue Jackson can sure sling it, can’t he? Yikes!
Raider Legend Wisniewski Returns to Silver and Black as Assistant
“Steve is my shining star,” said Raiders Head Coach Hue Jackson. “His intensity, passion and vision were right in line with what I’m looking for. He was a great Raider player and I am looking forward and excited about working with him.”
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Biekert Will Serve as Linebacker Coach for Raiders
“I’m excited to re-connect with one of the true and great Raiders,” said Raiders Head Coach Hue Jackson. “His vision and mine are right in line with each other.”
February 8th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Drew Bledsoe was horrible under pressure too. Way worse than Campbell, imo.
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Nonsense.
Bledsoe did take a TON of sacks, however he hung in the pocket and made a lot of throws right before he was about to get creamed.
Played with all kinds of crazy injuries and you can’t start for a Super Bowl team if you can’t handle a blitz.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
When he joined the Raiders’ staff as an assistant coach on defense last summer, Greg Biekert was heralded as the man who “may be best remembered for recovering Tom Brady’s fumble in the ‘Tuck Game’ against the New England Patriots.”
Now that Biekert has been promoted to linebackers coach, he may be known for pushing the recently-hired Chuck Bresnahan back into the Raiders’ defensive coordinator role.
[RELATED: Bresnahan re-joins Raiders coaching staff]
Because while Bresnahan, who was Oakland’s D.C. from 2000 to 2003, was brought back under the nebulous title of “defensive coach,” it was assumed he would be the linebackers coach once a new coordinator was brought in. So with Biekert the position coach, logic dictates Bresnahan is the man, right?
Well, the Raiders insist Biekert’s hiring “stands on its own.” Besides, they still have designs on speaking to other coordinator candidates.
Now that the Super Bowl is concluded, they purportedly include Green Bay assistant head coach/inside linebackers and former Raiders linebacker Winston Moss and Packers secondary-safeties coach Darren Perry.
Still, you have to wonder what role and job description Bresnahan would fill if he is not the defensive coordinator…is defensive line coach Mike Waufle then promoted to D.C.?
For now, though, Oakland is concentrating on trumpeting the internal hire and elevation of Biekert, who played with the Raiders from 1993 through 2001.
“I’m excited to re-connect with one of the true and great Raiders,” new coach Hue Jackson said in a release. “His vision and mine are right in line with each other.”
Biekert joined the Raiders staff last summer as a “defensive assistant” and remained on the team’s Web Site this offseason, even as other names began disappearing.
Read more: Raiders retain Biekert as linebackers coach
Tune to SportsNet Central at 6, 10:30 and midnight on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area for more on this story
February 8th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
Bresnahan will be the prevent D-cord!
February 8th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
JFB
Drew Bledsoe curls your toes, eh?
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BledDr00.htm
February 8th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
This smells funny……another “passing game coordinator” situation?
February 8th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Wouldn’t say curl my toes, but he stood tall in the face of pressure and was unafraid to take the big hit.
Marc Wilson and Soup, would have never hung in the pocket they way he did, hence the reason Drew started 6 playoff games and a Super Bowl, and neither of those guys have come close to sniffing a playoff start.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Bledsoe
98 wins 95 losses 76 passer rating, yawn.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Lakers getting Melo?
February 8th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
This smells funny……another “passing game coordinator” situation?
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We’re gonna have one DC for our 4-3 looks and one for our 3-4 looks. It all makes sense.
February 8th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
This smells funny……another “passing game coordinator” situation?
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“We’ll see if we can get somebody better on board as DC. If not, you’ll split coaching duties with Biekert. He’ll be Rushing Defense Coordinator and you’ll be Passing Defense Cooridinator.
If we can do better than you, you’ll be listed as a defensive assistant and basically be Al’s spy.
Welcome back, by the way.”
February 8th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Dakota-
Not sure if i ever officially told you this but…
You were right about Darren McFadden.
You and the “Keepers of the Faith”.
In all fairness tho, my criticism of him proir to this year was justified by his play on the field.
I am so glad I was wrong about your boy Dmac.
Now DHB is next up to bat…
February 8th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
“Purp ‘n Melo, Purp ‘n Melo, Purp ‘n Melo”!!!!
February 8th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
“Purp ‘n Melo, Purp ‘n Melo, Purp ‘n Melo”!!!!
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Is that a Jamarcus cocktail??
The Purp and some Mellow Yellow?
February 8th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
“Purp ‘n Melo, Purp ‘n Melo, Purp ‘n Melo”!!!!
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Is that a Jamarcus cocktail??
The Purp and some Mellow Yellow?
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Purple and Gold (Lakers)+
Carmelo Anthony = Championship
Only if Al could learn a thing or two from Buss!
February 14th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
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Now go back and read the THIRD word in each line from the top…
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