Biekert stays as LB coach _ still no DC
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, February 8th, 2011 at 2:02 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders announced Greg Biekert would serve as linebackers coach this season, but that doesn’t necessarily mean Chuck Bresnahan will end up being named defensive coordinator.
Although there has been no confirmation of an interview, it’s believed coach Hue Jackson is looking hard at Winston Moss, who served as assistant head coach and as a linebackers coach for the Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers. The Arizona Cardinals have reportedly requested permission to speak to Moss as well. Arizona and Tennessee are both currently without a defensive coordinator.
Moss has interviewed with the Raiders before and expressed a desire to work for Al Davis.
When Bresnahan was hired Feb. 1, it was without a specific designation. HIs experience is primarily with the secondary and linebackers aside from being a defensive coordinator and he could conceivably work in both areas with the nickel package should Moss come aboard.
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February 8th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
BEIK!
February 8th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Nothing personal but I hope Bres doesn’t get named D Coord.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
Darren Perry might be a better option. I felt like even though Branch was one of our tackling leaders his coverage was a serious liability.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
423.mack-madden Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Dakota-
Not sure if i ever officially told you this but…
You were right about Darren McFadden.
You and the “Keepers of the Faith”.
In all fairness tho, my criticism of him proir to this year was justified by his play on the field.
I am so glad I was wrong about your boy Dmac.
Now DHB is next up to bat…
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Very little hope for DHB. He has never been a good player, not even in college.
Slightly below average is about the best we can hope for him.
Right now we are playing 10 on 11.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
I’m pretty much ruling this board right now so…
Go Raiders!
Jerry, said it before, say it again, we are damb lucky to have you.
Seriously appreciated!
February 8th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Dakota, it would be interesting to see what happens to DHB if we do aquire Chad Johnson especially if Schilens can finally get healthy.
Schil seems to be Oaklands best, most natural WR and finds the end zone.
He had a nice outro game against KC.
I like DHB but man, whats up with the mystery injuries and what not?
It’ll take more than one year of production from DMC for me to buy in.
He just can’t seem to stay healthy…
February 8th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Bresnahan’s job is to answer the phone, when Al calls down during games…
February 8th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
“Purp ‘n Melo, Purp ‘n Melo, Purp ‘n Melo”!!!!
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Is that a Jamarcus cocktail??
The Purp and some Mellow Yellow?
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LOL!
Purple and Gold (Lakers)+
Carmelo Anthony = Championship
Only if Al could learn a thing or two from Buss!
February 8th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
When Bresnahan was hired Feb. 1, it was without a specific designation. HIs experience is primarily with the secondary and linebackers
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Chuck B has been a DC for 4 different teams!
Maine, Oakland, Cincy & Florida Tuskers
he’s been coaching since 1986 – thats 3 years before Rolando McClain was born!
hard to imagine him assisting guys like Biekert, Ross & Washington … who have only been ASSISTANT position coaches before joining the Raiders
February 8th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
I think we should just fire Breshanan.
Was an insurance policy in case other things fell threw.
I’m not into raiding coaching staffs of the UFL.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Chuck B is a clown!!!!!
Al is going to give him some crazy title; Assistant nickle package secondary co-ordinator, that he will only have to pay him 90K.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Although there has been no confirmation of an interview, it’s believed coach Hue Jackson is looking hard at Winston Moss, who served as assistant head coach and as a linebackers coach for the Super Bowl champion Green Bay Packers.
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Jerry, is this one of those “a source close to the situation” deals?
Cause I thought you said the same thing about Perry, without citing any sources.
Explain yourself, sir!
February 8th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Bresenahan would be a downer, but, it’s looking more that way now.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Only if Al could learn a thing or two from Buss!
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Yes!!
Be so far away from things that you are watching the championship parade from the poker table!!
February 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
from espn insider:
As the Jared Gaither saga continues to play out, it’s becoming more and more likely that he’s not in the 2011 plans for the Baltimore Ravens. If that’s the case, the team will need to make use of the draft, trades or free agency in order to find a solution at the tackle spot opposite Michael Oher.
Mike Duffy of BaltimoreRavens.com provided a roundup of some of the offensive linemen that could potentially be available this offseason (he included interior linemen, though this doesn’t appear to be as big of a need).
gaither-gallery-wisnieski-campbell-veldheer. on paper thats a pretty good line. henderson, satele, loper for depth, maybe keep walker and barnes around as well.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Gaither-Mankins-Veldheer-Wiz 2.0-Campbell sounds rather intruiging, although I don’t anticipate the shakeup on O Line most here predict.
Make it happen, Al.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
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February 8th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
A coaching staff of Waffles-Moss-Bresnehan-Washington-Ross would be pretty boss (no rhyme intended, it just happened that way).
February 8th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
LA to thebay,
The fact is, gallery and satele are free agents. campbell wasnt drafted to back up cooper carlisle. all signs point to some changes on the line, if we are going to keep any of our free agents, i have to think the offensive linemen are last priority b/c they are by far the most replaceable
February 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Solid DL coach – won SBs with the best unit being the DL
Proven ILB coach and former NFL LB – won SB like 2 days ago
Proven defensive coach – went to SB about 10 years ago (with Raiders)
Former NFL DBs coaching the secondary.
Weak link would still be defensive backfield. Issue isn’t talent, there, IMO. Those guys need to be organazized.
Nnamdi for player-coach!
February 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Billups
Kobe
Anothony
Odom
Gasol
Now THAT is rather intriguing.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
A coaching staff of Waffles-Moss-Bresnehan-Washington-Ross would be pretty boss
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Based on what, wishful thinking?
February 8th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
100%,
Fair assessment.
See Gallery and Satele coming back though.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
LA to TheBay ,
leave veldheer at center.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Dakota, where did you get this info from?
Billups?
February 8th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
LA To TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
A coaching staff of Waffles-Moss-Bresnehan-Washington-Ross would be pretty boss
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Based on what, wishful thinking?
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LA to TheBay Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Solid DL coach – won SBs with the best unit being the DL
Proven ILB coach and former NFL LB – won SB like 2 days ago
Proven defensive coach – went to SB about 10 years ago (with Raiders)
Former NFL DBs coaching the secondary.
Weak link would still be defensive backfield. Issue isn’t talent, there, IMO. Those guys need to be organazized.
Based on that, KK.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Bigblackdeath29 Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
LA to TheBay ,
leave veldheer at center.
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Disaster…..remember game one vs Titans?
February 8th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Solid DL coach – won a SB* with the best unit being the DL
February 8th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
how about veldheer,mankins,satele,rookie,campbell.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
25.r8eray Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Dakota, where did you get this info from?
Billups?
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Just a wild rumor….Denver would want to shed salary if they deal Melo and the Lakers need a PG.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
LA that might be the best O-Line combination I’ve seen yet, and I ‘ve posted quite a few myself;
Gaither -Mankins – Vehldeer – Wisniewski – Campbell
I completely agrre with the Raiders going after Mankins, I really like the power that Vehldeer gives us at Center (should he remain at LT I would be okay with that as long as he improves from this season), Drafting Wisneiwki & starting Campbell at one of the tackle positions is key.
I hope we bring back Barnes, Satele, and Loper for depth and some continuity.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
and draft Gilbert of Florida or Hudson of FSU if he is there in the 3rd
February 8th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Kobe & Melo on the same team. Hmmm
I guess that comes as a result of getting their butts handed to them by the Miami & Boston?
… or perhaps the Kings & Clippers last month ???
LOL!
February 8th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
I know Al likes his boy Sanjay Lal, but he needs to go after Mike Heimerdinger as a WR coach, and bust Sanjay down to an offensive assistant or Quality Control. We need upgrades on the coaching staff, when they become available!
February 8th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
so who will represent the West this year?
the Spurs or Mavs?
February 8th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
i like veldheer at left tackle.would stay away from gaither(bad back).keep satele for one more year and draft a rookie in the 3rd round and groom him.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
he needs to go after Mike Heimerdinger as a WR coach
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isn’t he battling cancer?
chemo treatments are ROUGH bro. I’d be surprised if he keeps coaching after the Titans fired him, no matter how talented he may be
February 8th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Proven defensive coach – went to SB about 10 years ago (with Raiders)
Former NFL DBs coaching the secondary.
Weak link would still be defensive backfield. Issue isn’t talent, there, IMO. Those guys need to be organazized.
Based on that, KK.
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Not much. Al Davis used to sigh Super Bowl MVP’s every year as Free Agent’s. Never helped.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Green Bay plays a 3-4 zone blitzing defense.
Would Winston Moss run that here? I doubt it.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
39.KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Green Bay plays a 3-4 zone blitzing defense.
Would Winston Moss run that here? I doubt it.
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Moss was with GB during their 4-3 days just a couple of years ago. I would assume he would run a 4-3 here.
February 8th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Why hire a 3-4 guy to run a 4-3?
Didn’t the DeAngelo Hall fiasco learn “you people” anything?
February 8th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Keep an eye out for Willie Brown at the airport tomorrow.
Moss is busy eating brats, and getting hugs from rotund Wisconsin women at Lambeau today..
February 8th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Dakota Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:56 pm
Moss was with GB during their 4-3 days just a couple of years ago. I would assume he would run a 4-3 here.
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Alrighty then.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
i wont b suprised if ASO. dosent come back and we get a CB in the 2nd round
February 8th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Moss began his coaching career in 1998 as a defensive quality control assistant for the Seattle Seahawks. He was hired by the New Orleans Saints in 2000 as defensive assistant/quality control, he was promoted to linebackers coach near the end of that season to replace John Bunting, who departed to become head coach at the University of North Carolina. Moss was hired by the Packers to become their linebackers coach on January 19, 2006. He was promoted to assistant head coach by head coach Mike McCarthy on January 15, 2007. Following a disappointing 2008 season for the Packers, Moss was the only major defensive coach not to be fired by McCarthy.[1]
February 8th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
i like the C frm TCU J. Kirkpatrick satele is free agent and really just a back up 3rd rnd
February 8th, 2011 at 3:06 pm
Did Bon Jovi turn Davis down, too?
On Sunday, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported that rocker Jon Bon Jovi could be purchasing 15 percent of the Atlanta Falcons, a transaction that could be worth up to $150 million.
Bon Jovi has since clarified his interest in becoming an NFL owner, via a statement provided to Mortensen from Bon Jovi spokesperson Tiffany Shipp.
“Since helping to establish the Philadelphia Soul Arena Football team — from its inception through our 2008 championship season — I have always made clear my desire to someday enter the NFL,” Bon Jovi said, confirming that he had been in “confidential negotiations” since being approached by the Falcons “some months ago.”
The bigger question, in our view, is whether Bon Jovi could eventually aim even higher, especially since league rules require one person to own 30 percent of a team in order to be the majority owner.
Heck, if Jon changes his name to “Bon Rooney,” he might even be able to pull it off with only 15 percent.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
kk who u think we take in the 2nd????
February 8th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
It’ll take more than one year of production from DMC for me to buy in.
He just can’t seem to stay healthy…
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I agreee.
This is also another reason to retain Mr Michael Bush.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
CB Patt Patterson is the guy i want…
Would have to trade up in the 1st rd to get him tho…
Therefore I am aware that it is highly unlikely we obtain him.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Kendrick burney CB frm North Carolina in the 2nd thats my pick
February 8th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
47 Al is more of a slayer fan than Bon Jovi
February 8th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
in a perfect world
veldheer-mankins-wisnewski-pouncey-campbell
February 8th, 2011 at 3:27 pm
I wonder why it’s hard for Al Davis to find a defensive coordinator. No respectable DC will step foot here. Up and comers like John Fox and Willie Shaw used to, but I don’t think even they want anything to do with the Raiders anymore. Why is this? Gee, where do we start? First off, there is no such thing as a defensive coordinator in Oakland. Al Davis is the defensive coordinator. This is well documented.
Secondly, the Raiders talent on D is designed for man defense. Modern day defensive coordinators were brought up to be deceptive and use varying shells, blitz packages, etc. You just can’t use 11 guys who only know how to bump and run. Sure, it’s swell if you’re playing a team that relies on the short pass. But in that case, what do you need a DC for? With a defense so vanilla, the players could run it.
Third: Tacking on to the first example, Al typically pits his defensive coordinator against his offensive minded head coach. Not only is a defensive coordinator a scapegoat in Oakland, Oakland is a place where defensive coordinators go to make enemies.
Breshnehan has been talked about for days. He’s no Bill Parcells. Yet these rumors just keep surfacing, with no closure. Could it be that even Breshnehan refuses to come to Oakland, and Al’s offering his shirt?
February 8th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
MR stop wondering al is the DC why does he need 1
February 8th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
I mean if you can’t close Chuck Breshnehan, who, for all intents in purposes, is a no-name (Only Raider and Bengal fans would recognize the name at first mention), come on. Chuck should be dying to come here, shouldn’t he? He’s nobody.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
and all the Bres. rumors are coming from here which means squatdoodle
February 8th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
A lot of Raider moves were first mentioned “here”. There’s some people here who know what’s going on.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
@Just Fire Baby…
Safe travels my man.
I am in Tijeras.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
the people talking about Bres. defenitly dont hes a consulation topic here
February 8th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
and the stuff defenitly dosent hit here first after its been digested and emailed then it hits this page
February 8th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Dr. Satan for DC.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
How do you know?
February 8th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
you guys have been discussing no-names in here all day. I see the Raiders are making big moves to get back on top. LOL.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
its easy to succom 2 the raider hating that goes on in here which brings all the talk about no 1 wants 2 come here when in actuallaty no one knows how al really treats his coaches at least before they go looking for another job using us as a stepping stone alla Kiffin or before the media gets a hold of the women beater material alla Cable the last I recall the coach before those 2 is stilll highly respected alla Turner
February 8th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
the only thing u see is that raider hater adie u sip on every morning day and night
February 8th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
61.Dr.Death Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
and the stuff defenitly dosent hit here first after its been digested and emailed then it hits this page
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Yes, this is normally true.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
Breshnehan has been talked about for days. He’s no Bill Parcells. Yet these rumors just keep surfacing, with no closure. Could it be that even Breshnehan refuses to come to Oakland, and Al’s offering his shirt?
I mean if you can’t close Chuck Breshnehan, who, for all intents in purposes, is a no-name (Only Raider and Bengal fans would recognize the name at first mention), come on. Chuck should be dying to come here, shouldn’t he? He’s nobody.
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Not to, you know, trip you up in your daily dose of sunshine, but Bresh hire confirmed on this very blog and on the official web site AND in comments by Hue Jackson
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/02/01/bresnahan-officially-added-to-staff/
And so, my favorite nabob of negativity, the play isn’t to mock Al Davis for not being able to close with Bresh, but to mock him when he can’t land Perry or Moss and has to resort to Bresh as his saftey net.
Carry on.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Not that I think that will happen, BTW. Despite people working hard to make things in Raider land look bad, this team is a far more attractive situation than it was only a few years ago.
I think coaches may worry about the atmosphere that Davis creates, but what they REALLY worry about is will they have the pieces to succeed? Seymour, Asomugha, Wimbley, McClain, Houston, Kelly, and yes, Michael Huff.
A DC can make a name for himself with that squad. Moss or Perry will come.
February 8th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
thats what im saying Davy people here get caught up in the past when we know a real RAIDER FAN ALWAYSalways looks to the next year and after the year we had last year the coaches will come when they see talent regadless if the owner is al davis (4 the most prt)
February 8th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
A little late on McFadden,
but to be fair, MOST running backs “can’t seem to stay healthy” if you’re asking them to be healthy for all 16 games a year.
It’s somewhat normal for any RB to miss 2 or 3 games a season with injuries.
Arian Foster 13 games started.
Michael Turner, 15. 11 last year.
MJDrew, 14.
Ray Rice, 14.
Frank Gore, 11.
DMac, 13.
Steven Jackson averaged about 13 a season.
February 8th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
and the Bres. rumors happend way before we signed him back 2 a non title position which was just a way of process of elimination through Hughs’s coaching past
February 8th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
i’ll take 13 games frm RUN DMC any day
February 8th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
alex7 Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
A little late on McFadden,
but to be fair, MOST running backs “can’t seem to stay healthy” if you’re asking them to be healthy for all 16 games a year.
It’s somewhat normal for any RB to miss 2 or 3 games a season with injuries.
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Even more reason to retain Mr Michael Bush…
Mcfadden and Bush together reminds me of Garner and Wheatley.
February 8th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Someone posted earlier today Bill Williamson’s piece on ZBS vs Power Blocking in which he opined that he doesn’t think we should switch given our great success last year. Then other parties jumped on that to say they don’t think we should switch either.
Do you all know what the hell you’re talking about. “Obviously” Williamson doesn’t!
We MOVED AWAY FROM strict ZBS LAST YEAR under Hue!!! The running game took off!!!
The only guys that were brought in to run Cables system on that starting line is CC and Satale!
Furthermore, Hue run it all per Al Davis’ own admission. Now Hue balances out more on the power but nothing says he won’t run zone here and there.
I was shocked to read what Bill Williamson wrote and he is supposed to cover the AFC West teams? “OBVIOUSLY” he doesn’t pay attn to this team or he would know that. So should you guys!
February 8th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
I would love Coach Jackson to use these Five targets on the field at the same time in a Double TE set the similar to Patriots.
WR-Ford
TE-Miller
TE-Reece
HB-Mcfadden
HB-Bush
Lining up would look Run Heavy but can be sneaky with Pass.
Motion out a HB to slot.
Run from Singleback.
One can get real imaginative…
February 8th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Someone posted earlier today Bill Williamson’s piece on ZBS vs Power Blocking in which he opined that he doesn’t think we should switch given our great success last year. Then other parties jumped on that to say they don’t think we should switch either.
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Al Davis has run the once proud franchise into the dirt, and all the stooges want to talk about is so-called mis-characterization by the media.
PATHETIC!
February 8th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Ha ha! Wow, Davy, I don’t know what to say. I really had no idea that we actually already signed Breshnehan, but to no particular position. Maybe with all of the world news I just missed it. And of course, like you guys, usually I hit this place and go right to the comments. Also, this is the ONLY source I use for Raider news, unless something happens that makes the mainstream headlines.
Now, that being said, and it’s a huge fail on my part, I’ll admit, LOL. Doesn’t it also go further to prove my case?
I mean, we sign Breshnehan, only to let him sit…while we look for a defensive coordinator? Oh, I think I know what his position is now. Official Team Bi*ch.
February 8th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I’m embarrassed for Breshnehan. Wow. Talk about someone who’s desperate. Not only does Al have a knack for finding puppets around the league, he has a knack for finding guys with absolutely zero self esteem. I mean guys he can just scat on.
February 8th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
So if the Raiders DIDN’T run a ZBS last year, than that means Cooper Carlisle has been a 16 game starter for a top 5 rushing team in BOTH the ZBS and a power-blocking scheme.
He must be pretty damn good!!!
February 8th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Biggest positions of need:
1. RT
2. OG (LG if Gallery leaves)
3. C
4. WR
5. CB (considering both starters are FAs)
6. C
7. S (if Huff leaves)
8. WLB
Luckily the draft has quite a few players who can play OG or RT.
Not a lot of clear “franchise left tackles” though.
I have a feeling that if Al is going to address the receiving corps this season, it’s going to be by bringing in another speedy mid/late-round project.
Satele improved over the course of the season, but is he a fit for a power-blocking scheme?
The WLB position could certainly be improved, but Groves and Goethel might get the first crack at the job. Both showed some potential last season. Still wouldn’t surprise me to see an OLB drafted, though.
I think there are some good options at free safety available through free agency if Huff can’t be re-signed.
CB is the biggest question mark. A lot depends on how free agency plays out.
Of course, this completely changes if the Raiders are thinking about going to the 3-4.
February 8th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
We have this wonderful power-blocking scheme that paves the way for the #2 rushing attack, and the only guy who started all 16 games and was also the least penalized O-lineman, is the one guy everyone wants replaced.
February 8th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Playstation GM’s
February 8th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
JFB
I have no idea how much ZBS they ran versus Power.
Amd I’m sure these Playstation GM’s don’t either.
February 8th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
I have no idea how much ZBS they ran versus Power.
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This is key. I’d like to know how they found a balance. It’s also probable that Hue’s scheme won’t be 100% power-blocking. Most teams use at least a little ZBS.
Al didn’t seem too thrilled with the ZBS at his last press conference, though.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
I don’t think its the Zone blocking scheme Al dislikes but, that it was what Tom Cable liked to run , Using the power and zone blocking schemes together is what works
February 8th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Just have personnel that can run the o-line scheme.
BTW, Veldheer has NO BUSINESS being a Center. Backup or emergency? Absolutely! But not the starter.
I hated that Cable got slick with Veldheer and Bruce Campbell. Play the doggone players at the positions they know and develop some legit starters
February 8th, 2011 at 5:26 pm
And regardless of ZBS or Power Blocking…get guys that can pass block too!
February 8th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
This Defensive Coordinator search is more of the same ole B.S!
If you are going to keep MOST of the original defensive staff AND make changes to that staff BEFORE a DC is hired….why hire a new one?
Just keep the old one.
Al Davis just doesn’t get it. The Coordinators are trying to run their side of the ball. Shouldn’t they have INPUT into their staffs.
No wonder this team has such a DIFFICULT time getting on the same page!
February 8th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
get guys that can pass block too!
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Word.
Run blocking off the right side could improve, as well.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
I don’t think its the Zone blocking scheme Al dislikes but, that it was what Tom Cable liked to run , Using the power and zone blocking schemes together is what works
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I think Al said so himself in his last press conference reguarding Cable that He (Mr Davis) is “not a zone blocking purist”
I dont know. Whatever scheme we used last year seemed to work.
SOme on here suggests that last year was a “mixture” of both schemes.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
beefing up the line is Al’s way of getting more time for Campbell to hold the ball for deeper routes . You know go vertical
February 8th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
16. Gaithers a BUM!!!!!
February 8th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
SnB Production Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
This Defensive Coordinator search is more of the same ole B.S!
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It’s gotta be just a lack of respect of the contributions of coaching, chemistry and cohesion to winning, in anything.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
91. It WAS a mix. When it looked good, it was power, when it sucked it was Zone.
Good article on Raider nation station about the end of Raiders ZBS experiement.
The problem was ZBS chewed up yds between the 20s but stalled goal line and red zone.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
SnB Production Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Just have personnel that can run the o-line scheme.
BTW, Veldheer has NO BUSINESS being a Center
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Veldheer looks like a stud in the making at LT.
I do not want to see him at center. Not even as a backup.
WTF I’d rather Jon Condo as backup.
I just dont want to mess with Veldheer.
Just stick him at LT and let hime be…
February 8th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
91. It WAS a mix. When it looked good, it was power, when it sucked it was Zone.
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LOL. ok like if we Lose its all Mr Davis Fault.
and if we win it is In Spite/or despite (im bad with grammar) of Mr Davis…
February 8th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
more haters http://www.fanfeedr.com/nfl/2011/02/08/san-jose-cops-steelers-fan-attacked-by-raiders-devotees-before-s
February 8th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
KoolKell,
Clearly Davis doesn’t value coaching as much as others in the league. Its as if he just sees these coaches as guys to coach technique….not a care in the world about strategy.
Are the assistants coaching the concepts that align with the way the Defensive Coordinator has set up his defense? If the DC wants to run more zone…are the coaches teaching zone concepts correctly…
I don’t know…..its tough when you can’t even pick your staff
February 8th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Mack-Madden,
Yes, Veldheer played ok at LT. He should be spending 95% of his time sharpening his skills as a left tackle.
Not taking the kid and teaching him a NEW position all together.
I don’t understand why this team insists on just moving guys to totally new positions with a regularity.
Put Bruce at the freekn right tackle and see what he can do there…..just draft players that come in at least knowing their positions
February 8th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
97. My statement about the Power vs ZBS is clearly and demonstrably true. Watch them games from last year.
Its also a major reason Cable is gone.
I’ve always seen Davis as responsible for ALL things Raider good and bad.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
You guys see one game with Veldheer at Center and make an automatic judgement on his capabilities there. Thats hogwash. That buffoon Cable completely f’d up that move to Center by NOT giving Veldheer the necessary practice in camp or during the preseason. That fool sat Veldheer the final game. Just stupid!!! And expected him to come out on fire like he was playing that position is whole damn career.
And you ppl are making a judgement based on that?????!!!! Get da f outta here!
When Satele went down sometime midseason, Veldheer sure didn’t look bad at center. Just saying. Mario being awful at LT put more emphasis on Veldheer taking that spot.
Still, all those false starts???? You think that’s coincidence??? He was OK, but he has serious faults. Gallery also was very penalty proned when he manned the LT spot. Just saying. Both short arms. Needed to compensate by jumping the snap. Just saying.
Whatever position he plays I hope he gets better. But I’m under no false assumptions that he was great at LT. He was much better than Henderson for sure. But not great by a longshot. Adequate is more like it.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
SnB
Chuck Bresnehan is a step backward, imo.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
ZBS made Satele look pretty good blocking downfield on some of those long runs, though.
February 8th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
103.KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
SnB
Chuck Bresnehan is a step backward, imo.
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Yup, I agree. John Marshall at least had them playing tough in many games last year.
I don’t see Breshnehan as that guy. His defenses in the past were forgetable.
Davis is doing things his way again…..
February 8th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
100. One reason for shifting guys to diff positions is diversity insurance against the inevitble case of injury.
The added bonus and I watched them do this last year, is creatging mismatches by lining up a “tackle” at guard or wut ev
February 8th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
gosh oh gee golly darn, has dem Raiduhs done gone and got deyselfs in a pickle? is it da dey dat cain’t gonna teach, or is it da dey dat only be ’spousin’ (semi-pro bloggers and talking heads) any and ow heck an’ done gone be p’fo’min’ dat D cordinatin’? Gots my’n brayth be holdin’, damnation.
ceptin’ maybe like, come at it, dems JerryMan o’ Kamakaze o’ dat InMan o’ dat Montay Poole o’ dat Gay woman wanna show da wha’ be wha’ wif deyz ‘perteez.
I’z awaitin’.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
104. Yeah, TWICE
Satele did impress several times but has yet to establsih himself as our undisputed center.
He really struggled to get 2nd level most of his career.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
GoodOle00
I have no problem with insurance. But the Raiders go out here and play guys at new positions as full-on starters.
The only reason Veldheer was pulled is because Super Mario was jacking up the left side.
I also am ticked that Bruce Campbell basically sat all year. They could have got him out there. You tell me he was never a viable option at RT.
NO, we have him backing up a serviceable Carlisle while there was a big hole on the right side.
Campbell is athletic as all hell….get his azz on the edge!
February 8th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
I’ve always seen Davis as responsible for ALL things Raider good and bad.
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Yea i was talking tongue in cheek earlier
February 8th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
102. Couldn’t disagree more about Veld at LT.
His off sides were attributable to rookie jitters aginst the Leagues best and fastest pass rushers. Pass rushers who NEVER got him more than once with the same thing.
As his experience grows he’ll be all pro most of his career at LT.
Raiders got a great draft value who I think CAn play center but will benefit us most at the critical blind side
February 8th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Maybe. Only time will tell
February 8th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
I also am ticked that Bruce Campbell basically sat all year. They could have got him out there.
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Not just you. Me and others here share the same frustration.
I just want to see him play. THEN can we decide/debate where he belongs on the line and if he deserves more play or more pine.
I just pray that he is an improvement over “Not so Super” Mario Henderson
And we all know that Mr Davis is highly upset that Bruce Campbell did not see the field.
Mr Davis is mad about “discovering” Jacoby Ford so late in the year.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
109. Campbell had little actual football experience at ALL coming out of college and all of it at Left tackle.
He would’ve taken development time no matter where he landed but I think his move to RG was understandable as a Cooper replacement but negated one of his best attributes, that massive wing span and athletic kick which might’ve served him on the right edge.
He’ll be one to watch
February 8th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
TerrapinRaider Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
$$$$$$$$$$
My OPINION about our O-line last year:
It was better to have satele start at center.
Veldheer at LT.
I would have given Bruce Campbell some reps ANYWHERE (LT-LG-RG-RT-FB-or the khalif barnes 3rd TE role)
just so that he can get a feel for the speed of the NFL.
Maybe bruce wasnt ready at all, that I dont know.
But i sure wanted to find that out LAST YEAR
February 8th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
113. B Campbell DID see more field time than most fans realize.
Saw time in at least two games.
Not great.
One play good the next not so much and he’s a liability in protection. Too many times he’s on skates getting walked back into the QB.
Couldn’t anchor and needs more work than many think.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
GoodOle00,
Honestly, if he is so far behind that he can’t even get on the field…I gotta wonder if he ever catches up.
Was he really THAT raw of a talent?
Damn!
Should have picked him even later than 4th if that’s the case.
And if he is that raw…should they be trying him at a new position (guard)? Especially with his speed and athleticism.
I hope he and DHB can turn all that physicality into real deal production.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
He wasn’t even that impressive as a left tackle at Maryland. From what I saw of him, he relied a little too much on his strength and athleticism. Some plays he would leave his feet and lunge at the pass rusher. That kind of thing won’t fly in the NFL.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
The only time I remember Bruce Campbell from last year, was when he was getting called for 3 penalties in a row during a preseason game, and when he was on kickoff return duties.
Was pretty suprised to see he played in 10 games last year.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
We will see if it was a Cable move to switch Bruce Campbell to Guard or not.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
al has always hated zbs…
February 8th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
I was shocked to read what Bill Williamson wrote and he is supposed to cover the AFC West teams? “OBVIOUSLY” he doesn’t pay attn to this team or he would know that. So should you guys!
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His comments about the blocking scheme are about as on-point as the ones about the 3-4, where he says we have the personnel to run it as our primary defense. Which, of course, we don’t.
February 8th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Olinesux,
find stats of Super Bowl winning ZBS. I can’t find the numbers.
Senhor Blackbeard,
the Pack had the “wrong” personnel for the 3-4 in ‘09. Playoffs.
‘10. Super champions.
the Raiders have a wampum of versatile LBs/DEs.
A NT? Just take a South Sea Islander and tell him his job is to grab a couple of fat people and push them for a few seconds. Problem?
February 8th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
there was a couple of preseason games where bruce campbell was pushing his man five yards up field and he plays after the whistle. he’s gonna be fine at rt.guard. veldheer showed alot of potential at lt.tackle, he’s gonna get bigger and stronger.satele would get his butt pushed back behind the line of scimmage.(he’s a back-up)saw wiesnewski play against pouncey in the same game. pouncey is one of a kind maybe better than his brother, but wies. looked pretty strong and held his own against florida’s rush….
lets snatch him address the right tackle spot.don’t see gallery coming back, personally like to see a tougher meaner mauler. looks like chad johnson wants to come oakland , rather see vincent jackson
February 8th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
The Raiders ARE NOT built for a 3-4. McClain and Wimbley? Perhaps….but that’s it. The rest of backup players.
The DE has 4 starting caliber players across the board. Houston is already a contributor who is getting better…Seymour and TK are pro-bowl or near pro-bowl and Shaughnessy is a physical 4-3 DE that can get to the QB.
I am not anxious to see more Groves, Gothel and whoever else.
Mix in some zone and disguise the damn coverages!
February 8th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Lonetree,
Not saying it can’t or won’t happen, just that the team as currently structured doesn’t look to me to be a 3-4 team. We put as much (and some evaluations would say more) pressure on the opposing QB than any team in the league last year, and our d-line is made up of guys that can be moved around to enable matchup advantages. As you mentioned, not a nose tackle in sight.
We may have a lot of linebackers, but are they any good? I noticed a significant dropoff when Ricky Brown spelled McClain, for example.
I think it’s bad timing to try and overhaul the defense. There are free agents to sign and an offensive line to address this offseason, and if we go whole hog (pun intended) with the NT thing and bring even more LBs in here we’re going to have to neglect one or both of those areas. Only so much money to go around, and only so many draft picks.
Now, if we already had the key FAs under contract, a viable o-line for the scheme, an AJ Hawk and could draft Clay Matthews and BJ Raji, I’d say go for it.
In my opinion, stopping the run is more about execution than it is scheme. There are more than a few 4-3 teams that do just fine in that area.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Teach,
Good post. Also, getting a GOOD NT is almost as hard as getting a good QB.
Those big guys are hard to come by and nearly all of the GOOD ones get franchised and big money to go with it.
Changing is too hard and the personnel isn’t really there.
Its a 4-3 team with more talent on the D-Line than the linebacker corps….a team that has difficulty coaching basic zone concepts let alone a switch to a 3-4!
February 8th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Poor run defense.
Mediocre safeties, at best.
Mediocre offensive line, at best.
No possession receiver, no deep threat with hands or ability to fight for ball.
Quarterback who’s horrible under pressure, can not read blitz and find hot routes. Disqualifies a QB in today’s league, which is why Washington cut him loose.
A head coach who refers to his owner as “coach”, which doesn’t bode well when said owner is notorious for using head coaches as puppets.
No general manager, not even a cap specialist.
An owner who acts as GM, is 80 years old, and has displayed senile behavior publicly on several occasions in recent years.
And you guys are discussing whether we should use a 3-4 or a 4-3?
February 8th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Congrats to Biekert!
However, lets hope this does not mean Bresnahan is next DC.
It would be a downgrade from Marshall IMO and that would mean what Hue said about hiring the best coaches possible, would blow up in smoke on one side of the ball IMO.
Lets hope Moss winds up being the next DC.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
I forgot…an owner’s assistant who has also displayed bizarre and irrational behavior publicly.
An owner who fires his head coach after a 3 win improvement, and the team’s best finish in nearly a decade.
An organization that a former pro bowl and MVP quarterback has described as “chaotic” in the early 2000s, when the team was winning!
February 8th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Madden,
I was addressing (disagreeing) with Bill Williamson’s comments that the Raiders have the personnel to run the 3-4.
I agree with you that we have problems in other areas that should be addressed before anybody considers changing the scheme on defense.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
SnB
Chuck Bresnehan is a step backward, imo.
^^^^^^^
It sure is IMO.
No point in getting rid of Marshall, to just bring in Bresnahan?
Ugh
February 8th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Discussing the Raiders defensive set is like discussing what kind of tires to put on a car when the engine’s on fire.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
All the 3-4 talk baffles me. Better DL than LBs on the team, great 4-3 coach in Waufle, lots of sacks in ‘10. Discussion SHOULD end there.
All you Davis Bashers should love the “who knows what his job is” Bresh hire. It’s totally win win for you. If Al fails to land a DC from one of he SB teams, you can crow in triumph when we get the standard “he was our guy all along” speech; in the more likely event that he DOES land a DC from one of the SB teams, you can grouse about the mistreatment of Bresh in order to avoid giving Al credit.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
133.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Discussing the Raiders defensive set is like discussing what kind of tires to put on a car when the engine’s on fire.
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Can’t be any less productive than posting constantly about The Failings of Al Davis. That, to me, is boring and repetetive negativity that doesn’t have any more impact on the team than a poster debating the defense.
I’ve been a Raider fan for a long time. I know all about the rise and fall. I’d rather talk about a subject that isn’t so tired and played out, is all.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
so who will represent the West this year?
the Spurs or Mavs?
According to Mike Huff…the Mavs…but I beg to differ!
February 8th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
No deep threat? Did we forget about Jacoby Ford? Or as good a squad of RBs as there is in the NFL? Or a great tight end? Or a DL with a mess of sacks? An offense that more than doubled their point total from 09 to 10? How about not one but several blow out victories? Undefeated in the west?
At some point, being a fan means finding something about your team to like. In the Shell/Kiffin/McCown era, if you told me “there’s nothing to like”, I’d have a harder time trying to argue the point. Now it’s a different story. Now if you can’t find something to like and be optimistic about, you’re willfully ignoring the Oakland Raiders of 2010. And I have to ask why a “fan” would do that.
February 8th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Barring a lock out which I don’t believe will happen, the 2010 Raiders have made my decision to renew my season tickets that much easier…If this past year was the same like any one of those previous years (2006 – 2009), I would have easily walked away (from the season, but not from the Raiders, nor a game or two)…
February 8th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
MR, Mr. Ford is the up and coming deep threat.
As far as the owner goes, GET OVER IT. The man is here tell he dies. As of right now Al Davis is the RAIDERS!
February 8th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
# hwnrdr Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
so who will represent the West this year?
the Spurs or Mavs?
According to Mike Huff…the Mavs…but I beg to differ!
….
Mavs always cave come playoff time. Spurs will roll!
GO SPURS GO!
February 8th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
edward teach Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Can’t be any less productive than posting constantly about The Failings of Al Davis.
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Yes, it can. Especially if it’s being done on purpose to distract from the failings of Al Davis.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
Davy, Ford’d deep threat faded away a little after KC, did it not? Seems teams played him better when accounting for him. Nonetheless, I’ll accept that as an honorable mention. I stand by everything else I said.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
# The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
The man (Al Davis) is here tell he dies.
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Not necessarily true. Raider fans can at least run Al out of Oakland with effective boycotts, if they had the moral courage to do so. Then you have to consider the trouble Al would have finding a new home. LA does not want him, as don’t most cities. The other owners might finally tire of this thorn that’s been in their shoe for decades, and find a way to throw him out for good. There’s a lot of ways to get rid of Al. And Raider fans can do a huge part if they just stop buying into his deceptive marketing.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
69.Davy Jones Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Not that I think that will happen, BTW. Despite people working hard to make things in Raider land look bad, this team is a far more attractive situation than it was only a few years ago.
I think coaches may worry about the atmosphere that Davis creates, but what they REALLY worry about is will they have the pieces to succeed? Seymour, Asomugha, Wimbley, McClain, Houston, Kelly, and yes, Michael Huff.
A DC can make a name for himself with that squad. Moss or Perry will come.
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“Nobody wants to be in Oakland”.
Tom Cable seemed to like it here. I don’t recall anybody saying he was happy to be leaving. Not even Tom Cable.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Moss has interviewed with the Raiders before and expressed a desire to work for Al Davis.
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Thats just professional courtesy talk. Bresh is the ace in the hole, or the back up plan or plan B if you will. Al wants a DC who will run a R2D2 defense and is still searching, while Hue has committed to the C3P0 style offense Al wants.
I’m Al Davis and I approve this message.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
“Nobody wants to be in Oakland”.
Tom Cable seemed to like it here. I don’t recall anybody saying he was happy to be leaving. Not even Tom Cable.
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Ok, I’ll handle this myself.
The reason Cable wanted to stay was becuz he was such a loser in the first place. Only a loser like Al Davis would hire a loser like Tom Cable. Cable hated it here with a passion-couldn’t stand it here, but he knew it was the only HC job he would ever have, and although it wasn’t much, he made good money for a schlep like him.
How’s that?
February 8th, 2011 at 9:12 pm
“Nobody wants to be in Oakland”.
Tom Cable seemed to like it here. I don’t recall anybody saying he was happy to be leaving. Not even Tom Cable.
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Tom Cable is an example of how attractive Raider coaching jobs are?
February 8th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
Every coach in the nfl, nc1 and 2A, high school and pop warner past-present-or future has wanted to be in Oakland. Al only lets in who he chooses when he chooses and only when he approves and deals it to be.
And when he is done with them, he spits them out like nasty gum.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
“Nobody wants to be in Oakland”.
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Not true. hererra wants to be in Oakland.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
Tom Cable WAS coach of the Raiders. Tom Cable wished to remain coach of the Raiders despite living in that prison for many years.
It is what it is.
The same people that criticize Al for firing him are the same ones who think he’s a piece of crap.
-Al was an idiot for firing Cable
-Cable was a loser who should never be a head coach.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Tom Cable is a ex dude. Shows you how far the Raidahs had come with a rah-rah coach. Now he is just another ex, Als ex, cause Al don’t like rah-rah coaches. He wants players, and is will ing to spend very very very very large amounts of money that is bizzre and odd, yet he would be better off keeping all that money so when he retires he won’t have to work, especially if he is going to need social security, I doubt that would keep up with his lavish spending habits.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
al davis for president!!!
February 8th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Greg Beikert (wow!)
named (wow!)
Raiders linebackers coach (wow!)
My reaction as I read the headline scrolling across ComcastNet. Seriously.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
I’m sure Al had to pay millions to lure Greg from the other offers he was getting.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
[...] Winston Moss is believed to be drawing a hard look from head coach Hue Jackson according to Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune. [...]
February 8th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Jerry,
You ought to call it what it is on Chuck B. It’s Al Davis dysfunctional mgmt all over again. He’s bringing Chuck in because Chuck has always been loyal to Al and needed a job. Now Hue is going to have to find a way to get his DC while having to deal with finding a role for Chuck B. Al needed someone loyal to him to be his snitch just like Randy Hanson was. Good luck to Hue.
BTW, I dont think Hue is gonna want Moss around either. Hue would then have to worry about a guy that had aspirations to be a Raider HC.
February 8th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Imagine sitting in a conference room like the Death Star and someone mouths off to Darth Vader and he uses the force to choke that dude, or almost choke him. Thats the kind of ‘force’ Al has on his coaches. They don’t talk. Never. Cause all Al has to do is sit back in his deepest dark corner of the bowels of Raidah HQ’s and use the ‘force’, and all his exes know this. Al IS Darth Vader in human form because thats why they play the Star Wars music at Raidah games. And when you thought you saw Darth Vader at Raidah games in Oakland, that is just Als’ brother, another bit of trickery by Al.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Personally, I never said No one would Head Coach the Raiders, I said nobody with “other Head Coaching options”
February 8th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
155.olinesux Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
al davis for president!!!
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would hererra be his running mate?
February 8th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
162.KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Personally, I never said No one would Head Coach the Raiders, I said nobody with “other Head Coaching options”
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And there in lies the lure of coaching for Al.
February 8th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
JUst how ignorant do you have to be to think that a coach has no other options that in and of itself is moronic. Every coach has options he can stay where he is or wait on something else. Everyone makes choices to do what they do there is no one that is without options……………..period
February 8th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
3 ambin and 2 Zanaflex, 1 Lortab, a Soma, and a 40oz of 211… Boy’s I AM OUT!!
February 8th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
We’ll send someone to resurrect you in the morning……
February 8th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
# The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
3 ambin and 2 Zanaflex, 1 Lortab, a Soma, and a 40oz of 211… Boy’s I AM OUT!!
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Steel Reserve is my beer of choice.
“you – popping too many pills,
yall need to relax.
Rockin with me you rockin with the best.
paint wet
so fresh.”
-J. Stalin
February 8th, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Mr Preittj-
Is that you that i hear on the radio.
“Tittlating Sports”
with host Rick Tittle?
February 8th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Yeah
February 8th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 10:03 pm
Personally, I never said No one would Head Coach the Raiders, I said nobody with “other Head Coaching options”
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Key words = other “HEAD” Coaching options
I assume you mean NFL, not UFL, arena ball, etc.
But would you consider NCAA?
And would the name Bill Callahan with Nebraska be used as a valid (and ofcourse Lance Kiffin with Tenn/USC) example?
February 8th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Mr tittle has a good radio show.
I got tired of KNBR.
Even tho i still like all their hosts.
I just love to hear Raider-athletic-warrior talk.
I like how you verbalize your points of view.
On this forum, some one can read what you/anyone say incorrectly/mis-interpet what points is trying to relay.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Priest,
You have your own radio show?
February 8th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
No no no no no!! I call a radio show.
February 8th, 2011 at 11:28 pm
174.priesttj Says:
February 8th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
No no no no no!! I call a radio show.
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Ok. Got ya. Sounds fun.
February 9th, 2011 at 1:37 am
“Thats the kind of ‘force’ Al has on his coaches. They don’t talk. Never. Cause all Al has to do is sit back in his deepest dark corner of the bowels of Raidah HQ’s and use the ‘force’, and all his exes know this. Al IS Darth Vader in human form”
It’s called being litigious. It’s not a super power. It just requires enough money to retain lawyers and an uber-sensitive ego.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:33 am
Rise and shine!!
It’s Moss or Chuck B. I doubt Al brings in Perry after he was replaced by Lionel Washington a couple of years ago.
Do we have a QB coach yet? I’m pretty sure I remember reading that Hackett is out.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:52 am
WTF is going on in Tennessee? Fisher fires his DC then is fired himself a week later, after the owner went on record saying he would be retained. Then, new coach Munchak fires OC Heimerdinger, who was given an extension when diagnosed with cancer during the season. Their franchise QB is a friggin head case and the need a whole new coaching staff as most all other teams have filled their openings.
If this were the Raiders, holy fvck would the shlt ever be hittin the fan!!
February 9th, 2011 at 5:35 am
Warriors and A’s talk ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!
February 9th, 2011 at 5:49 am
If this were the Raiders, holy fvck would the shlt ever be hittin the fan!!
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Its not fun for the media to kick a reputable franchise like the Titans when they are in turmoil. Its FUN to make fun of Al Davis and the Raiders.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:52 am
Steelers DB coach Ray Horton is scheduled to meet with the Cardinals in AZ today to try and finalize a deal to become their DC, and former Steelers DB DeShea Townsend is expected to be an assistant under Horton.
Adam Schefter via Twitter.
Guess Butler aint going there as many of you semi-pros predicted.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Do we have a QB coach yet? I’m pretty sure I remember reading that Hackett is out
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Hackett is out, no word on a replacement yet. Zorn could be a possiblity after being dumped by Baltimore, and having worked with JC previously.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:57 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
CW, NMF, Bcz24…what’s going on fellas?!
Any reports of anyone coming to town for at least an interview? Or, can we expect Chuckie B to be announced?
February 9th, 2011 at 6:10 am
Whats good Hwnrdr.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:16 am
Guess Butler aint going there as many of you semi-pros predicted
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AZ denied them permission, right?
Butler is under contract – Horton isn’t!
February 9th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Good Morning AM crew!
BCZ, Hwnrdr, NMF, CW …
February 9th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Ah, you know…same old work stuff…
Trying to double that penny, but I fell behind
Good Morning Rockstar!
February 9th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Butler is under contract – Horton isn’t!
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Just wanted to bust your chops first thing in this brisk -20* morning.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Trying to double that penny, but I fell behind
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Fell behind? LOL… Im working backwards at an extraordinary rate!
February 9th, 2011 at 6:21 am
IS BUDDY RYAN STILL ALIVE ?
February 9th, 2011 at 6:28 am
bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Trying to double that penny, but I fell behind
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Fell behind? LOL… Im working backwards at an extraordinary rate!
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Haha…I know right…trying to move forward!
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 6:21 am
IS BUDDY RYAN STILL ALIVE ?
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Good Morning Dirt Lot! Yes, Buddy is still alive, but probably not kicking it anymore…
February 9th, 2011 at 6:34 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,HOW MANY INCHES OF “GLOBAL-WARMING” / SNOW R U UNDER THERE IN PODUNK ?
February 9th, 2011 at 6:46 am
bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Do we have a QB coach yet? I’m pretty sure I remember reading that Hackett is out
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Hackett is out, no word on a replacement yet. Zorn could be a possiblity after being dumped by Baltimore, and having worked with JC previously.
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Zorns offense in DC was awful with JC at QB.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Zorns offense in DC was awful with JC at QB.
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Because they had a 64 year old Bingo caller running the offense!!!
February 9th, 2011 at 6:50 am
bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Zorns offense in DC was awful with JC at QB.
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Because they had a 64 year old Bingo caller running the offense!!!
Saunders?
February 9th, 2011 at 6:51 am
Just wanted to bust your chops first thing in this brisk -20* morning
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Whaaaaaaaat?
we have a high of 18 today and 4 inches of snow
which normally wouldn’t be a big deal, but we had 18-20 inches last week that just got cleared off 3 days ago and anything leftover (ahem, Podunk) turned to ICE
February 9th, 2011 at 6:53 am
Dirt Lot,
Buddy Ryan is 76 years old
He served as a sergeant in the U.S. Army during the Korean War!
February 9th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Whaaaaaaaat?
we have a high of 18 today and 4 inches of snow
which normally wouldn’t be a big deal, but we had 18-20 inches last week that just got cleared off 3 days ago and anything leftover (ahem, Podunk) turned to ICE
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Its really 9* out, but where I work we have some heavy winds, wind chill is about -20*.
We get 4″+ of snow every day man. We are over 90 inches total since december 1st.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:55 am
STILL THINK BUDDY WOULD DO A BETTER JOB THAN CHUCKIE B. OR SON ROB…
February 9th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Saunders?
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Hwnrdr,
Sherman Lewis
February 9th, 2011 at 6:56 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 6:50 am
bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 6:49 am
Zorns offense in DC was awful with JC at QB.
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Because they had a 64 year old Bingo caller running the offense!!!
Saunders?
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Sherm Lewis
February 9th, 2011 at 6:57 am
Dirt Lot…Buddy wil probably do better than most! LOL
Rockstar…sorry…For some reason I thought of Zorn and Saunders being together in DC…not sure why…
February 9th, 2011 at 7:08 am
STILL THINK BUDDY WOULD DO A BETTER JOB THAN CHUCKIE B. OR SON ROB
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he punched Jeff Fisher!
maybe the most respected coach in the league the past 15 years …
what do you think he would do to guys like Brad Roll & Sanjay Lal ???
February 9th, 2011 at 7:16 am
For some reason I thought of Zorn and Saunders being together in DC…not sure why
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Jim Zorn was the Redskins HC in 2008 & 2009
Al Saunders was with the Skins in 2006 & 2007 (Associate Head Coach – Offense, 3-year, $6 million contract)
Both worked with Jason Campbell!
February 9th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Zorn is a west coast guy is he not? Believe Hackett is too, but he was here more in a ‘let’s teach JaMarcus how to actually play QB’ capacity, rather than system-wise.
Not crazy about the idea of Zorn. You guys read news outta Baltimore. General consensus is that Flacco slipped under Zorn and they really missed Hue.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:26 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:08 am
STILL THINK BUDDY WOULD DO A BETTER JOB THAN CHUCKIE B. OR SON ROB
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he punched Jeff Fisher!
maybe the most respected coach in the league the past 15 years …
what do you think he would do to guys like Brad Roll & Sanjay Lal ???
Haha…He would killed them? Did he punch Fisher? I only seem to remember Kevin Gilbride way back when??? I could be wrong…
February 9th, 2011 at 7:27 am
When Hue was in Baltimore they leaned on Ray Rice and the running game much more. This year with the aquisition of 3 brand new big name receivers they tried to turn into a passing team, and Flacco isnt that guy. I think it had less to do with Zorn than people think.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:33 am
Flacco played much better this year in the playoffs with Zorn than he did the previous two years with Hue.
I’m sure you can chop most of that up to growth and experience, but his playoff games under Hue were atrocious.
He had some Jamarcus-esque performances.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Bcz, I know that’s the perception, however, Flacco actually had more completions/attempts in 09 than 10, however a slightly better TD-INT ration in 10.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Ratio*
February 9th, 2011 at 7:38 am
I think Flacco’s biggest issue is his lack of big-game experience in college.
Going from Delaware to the NFL playoffs (on the road no less) is a colossal leap.
You see guys like Mark Sanchez, who is a much less talented and probably a worse regular season QB, step up his game in the playoffs. I attribute that to playing for USC and not being overwhelmed in the moment.
Flacco had his peeing his pants moment in the second half of the Steelers game.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Anybody hear about Sanchez having some ‘relations’ with a 17 year old…
February 9th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Yes, but that is legal in New York (17 is age of consent there).
Pretty creepy though. I would rather bag a 37 year old than a 17 year old.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:53 am
It’s pretty creepy considering Mark could pretty much bag whoever.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:00 am
I wasn’t questioning the legal ramifications of this ‘union’… I guess when Rex said lets go get a GD snack Sanchez assumed underage poon was on the menu.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Heimerdinger work with QBs?
February 9th, 2011 at 8:04 am
wonder where Jerry comes up with “Hue going hard after Moss”?
Didn’t he say the same thing about Perry?
February 9th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Channeling my innner RRS…
Link?
Source?
February 9th, 2011 at 8:12 am
Day 3 of the DC watch…still nothing concrete.
Also lacking a QB coach still. I guess it doesn’t matter if no CBA gets done, but dammit all, I wish Al would hire someone already. 3 more months until the draft, this is the slowest time of the year in sports, only thing to look forward to is March Madness!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:14 am
We should all have that feeling that the new DC is gonna be Chuckie B as soon as Biekert got promoted to LB coach! I hope not, but…
February 9th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Did he punch Fisher? I only seem to remember Kevin Gilbride way back when???
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Hwnrdr,
you are correct sir. my appologies
but we all know that Al Davis has a healthy respect for Kevin Gilbride, so Buddy wouldn’t be welcome here in any capacity. He values loyalty above all else
February 9th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Good Morning Nation!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Flores for QB coach.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:20 am
You know, I have to admit…that was funny but sad at the same time because Buddy just hooked him from behind on National TV for goodness sake! Sad because that was a meltdown on National TV…
You’re right about Buddy not coming here because of respect for KG…haha! But Buddy is a Raider Fan (according to Rob)
February 9th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Harbaugh seems intent on working with Alex Smith it seems.
Scratch that one of Al Davis’ wish list
February 9th, 2011 at 8:23 am
209.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:44 am
Yes, but that is legal in New York (17 is age of consent there).
Pretty creepy though. I would rather bag a 37 year old than a 17 year old.
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Remember Sanchise is basically a what 24yrold thats pretty much kid status still he is closer to that age bracket………can’t say i wouldn’t…lol move to new york that is
February 9th, 2011 at 8:31 am
But Buddy is a Raider Fan (according to Rob)
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sure he was… when his son worked here. I would be Chiefs fan if my son worked for them!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Haha…I wouldn’t…I’ll be a fan of my son, but never another team…
February 9th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Remember Sanchise is basically a what 24yrold thats pretty much kid status still he is closer to that age bracket………can’t say i wouldn’t…lol move to new york that is
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Its kind of creepy for a normal 24 year old to date a 17 year old. For a famous dude to do it is worse, gives a bad reputation. He will always be known as the creepy predator type now.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Harbaugh’s ego is so big he thinks he can turn around Alex Smith. That means Al can’t pick him up. We dodged a bullet on that one.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:35 am
I would be Chiefs fan if my son worked for them!
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If my son worked for the chiefs either there would be some serious infiltrating going on or a hit being placed..lol not sure i could be a chiefs fan even then lol i would be helluva proud of him tho!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:37 am
I feel ya bcz24 its creepy but i geuss it would be different if she was 18 19 its just kinda the same age brackett thats all i was sayin almost jokingly.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Harbaugh seems intent on working with Alex Smith it seems
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he’s not going to show his hand
who else would he talk up?
David Carr or Troy Smith ??? Pfft!
the 49ers will either draft a QB in RD1 or trade for one (Kolb, McNabb or Palmer?)
it was pretty obvious to everybody that SF would bring in a new starting QB this upcoming season because they all stink and they’re all set to become FA’s … Harbaugh is doing his best to dispell that notion, but I doubt Capt Comeback wants to lose ballgames behind a pathetic QB when he was a pretty doggone special QB in his day and coached up the best guy at that position coming out next April (Luck)
February 9th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Here’s a name to throw into the QB Coaching candidates hat: Terry Shea
He was Al Saunders chosen Qb coach at 2 of his OC stops, and since then he has been a QB consultant for college kids going into the NFL draft. His last 4 clients? Matthew Stafford, Sam Bradford, Josh Freeman and Blaine Gabbert this year. Not a bad record of developing young QB’s. Would love to see the two Al’s bring him in.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Sanchez going after high school girls kinda says a lot about his character…
Geez, he COULD get anyone he pleased…I’d go older…
February 9th, 2011 at 8:45 am
The Two Als…Love it! Sounds like a cheesey 80’s movie title!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Jim Plunkett for QB coach! Make it happen Al.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Carl weathers for assitant LB coach!!!!!!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Its all in the hips right CW lol!!!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:49 am
BBB,
what round is Blaine Gabbert projected to go in?
February 9th, 2011 at 8:51 am
AMC is showing all the Rocky movies this week.
Watched I & II the last few days.
Carl Weathers is an underappreciated action star from the 80’s.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Not sure if Sanchez actually “date” her.
They met at a Bar on new years.
All assumptions are that if you at a bar, then you atleast 21 right?
I do understand the “age bracket” thing.
Some states age of consent is as low as 13…
Now that is CREEPY…
February 9th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Terry Shea didn’t do much for the Bears, Chiefs, Dolphins or Rams …
but he’s been an OC for San Jose State & Cal, which i’m sure would be appealing for Al Davis (loves them local boys)
February 9th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Unless this chick is the second coming of Jenna Jameson at 17, Sanchez is a goon for that move.
I’m not into teaching in the sack. You better already have the requisite skills.
I’m sure that’s what Hackett and Tollner must have thought about Jamarcus!!!!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:53 am
OAKlifer Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:37 am
I feel ya bcz24 its creepy but i geuss it would be different if she was 18 19 its just kinda the same age brackett thats all i was sayin almost jokingly.
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I just think a high profile guy like an NFL QB should use his head a bit more ya know. Perception is reality, and the perception of this guy is Predator now ya know.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:53 am
OAKlifer Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Carl weathers for assitant LB coach!!!!!!
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Assistant LB/ST coach! There has to be a LB named Rocky we can draft! We once had a Rambo.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:51 am
AMC is showing all the Rocky movies this week.
Watched I & II the last few days.
Carl Weathers is an underappreciated action star from the 80’s.
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Thunderlips for strength and conditioning coach!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:56 am
what if random college guy is a 24yr old senior.
and dates a 17yr old college freshman.
would that be ok?
would it be different if the guy was 17yrs old
and the girl was 24yrs old?
February 9th, 2011 at 8:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:49 am
BBB,
what round is Blaine Gabbert projected to go in?
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I see a lot of mocks that have Gabbert going top 10, and most have him as the first QB selected.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Carl weathers for assitant LB coach!!!!!!
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I’ll take him
his last acting gigs were Guest Starring for TV series Phoo Action, ER, Brothers & Psych
SAD!
He’s only 63 years old too (1 year younger than Al Saunders)
February 9th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Buenos dias mi gente.
Its a beautiful Wednesday morning in Oakland, Califas!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:57 am
“The eye if the tiger Rock!”
February 9th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Just Fire baby-
second coming of Jenna Jameson
$$$$$$$$$$
Pun intended?
February 9th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Geez…*of
February 9th, 2011 at 8:58 am
mack-madden Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:56 am
what if random college guy is a 24yr old senior.
and dates a 17yr old college freshman.
would that be ok?
would it be different if the guy was 17yrs old
and the girl was 24yrs old?
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Again, im not saying its wrong. Im just saying for a high profile guy like an NFL QB, perception is a big thing, and most peoples perception of an NFL QB dating, fooling around with, or having any other relations with a 17 year old is just creepy.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:58 am
“There is no tomorrow!! There is no tomorrow Rock!!!
February 9th, 2011 at 8:58 am
would it be different if the guy was 17yrs old
and the girl was 24yrs old?
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Absolutely.
Most 17 year old dudes can’t bag a 24 year old (at least a hot one) but just about any 24 year old High School Harry can nail a 17 year old.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:59 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Carl weathers for assitant LB coach!!!!!!
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I’ll take him
his last acting gigs were Guest Starring for TV series Phoo Action, ER, Brothers & Psych
SAD!
He’s only 63 years old too (1 year younger than Al Saunders)
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You talking about action jackson?
Apollo creed from rocky movies?
Lately Wasnt he on Michael Strahans sit com on FOX?
February 9th, 2011 at 8:59 am
I’m sure that’s what Hackett and Tollner must have thought about Jamarcus!!!!
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LOL @ JFB
… and what Americans felt (still feel) about Prez BO!
February 9th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Weathers looks to be in better shape in those Bud Light commercials than some NFL QB’s.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Unless this chick is the second coming of Jenna Jameson at 17, Sanchez is a goon for that move.
I’m not into teaching in the sack. You better already have the requisite skills.
I’m sure that’s what Hackett and Tollner must have thought about Jamarcus!!!!
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that he was bad in the sack? Eww. Remind me not to attend a Hackett/Tollner office party.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:01 am
If said guy was a 24 year old Senior dating a 17 year old Freshman? maybe…because she will be turning 18 soon…but still…there are other “Freshman” out there… unless like JFB said…second coming of Jenna!
February 9th, 2011 at 9:01 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:58 am
mack-madden Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:56 am
what if random college guy is a 24yr old senior.
and dates a 17yr old college freshman.
would that be ok?
would it be different if the guy was 17yrs old
and the girl was 24yrs old?
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Again, im not saying its wrong. Im just saying for a high profile guy like an NFL QB, perception is a big thing, and most peoples perception of an NFL QB dating, fooling around with, or having any other relations with a 17 year old is just creepy.
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I don’t know if I agree w/ this, but a lot of people say “if there is grass on the field…. Play ball.”
February 9th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Still waiting for Chuck B to be hired as the assistant nickle package secondary co-ordinator.
Since it is a new position in the NFL World, Al will start the salary structure at 90K a year.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:03 am
“if there is grass on the field…. Play ball.”
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If not roll her over and play in the mud….
(Just kidding, old stock broker pervert jokes)
February 9th, 2011 at 9:03 am
I don’t know if I agree w/ this, but a lot of people say “if there is grass on the field…. Play ball.”
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If not then flip her over and play in the mud!
February 9th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Still waiting for Chuck B to be hired as the assistant nickle package secondary co-ordinator.
Since it is a new position in the NFL World, Al will start the salary structure at 90K a year.
Shoot, if that’s the case…I’ll try out for Assistant water boy on Special Teams coordinator…90K is more than I make a year…LOL
February 9th, 2011 at 9:04 am
LOL JFB…. a couple of pervs we are
February 9th, 2011 at 9:05 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Weathers looks to be in better shape in those Bud Light commercials than some NFL QB’s.
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Talk about someone being in shape…
Have you guys seen Hershel Walker lately, in his MMA?
I heard the dude can still run a 4.40 in the 40.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Devil’s advocate would say “love is blind”.
Im not proud/excited of sanchez for this.
But i can kind of understand it IF it was not his intention to go out and ONLY bag 17yr olds.
It all might have been something innocent, exchanging pleasantries that turned into…. well… a baby.
I agree a guy like him has damn near unlimited options, therefor makes this a head scratcher.
Aaliyah sang to me that age aint nothing but a number.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Glad I’m not the only one…………..
I wasn’t into 17 year olds, as soon as I first stepped foot on a college campus.
Sanchez is a goon. Do the Jets come to Oakland next year??
February 9th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Sanchez going after high school girls kinda says a lot about his character…
Geez, he COULD get anyone he pleased…I’d go older…
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Maybe it’s a USC (Matt Lienart) thing!
February 9th, 2011 at 9:08 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:05 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Weathers looks to be in better shape in those Bud Light commercials than some NFL QB’s.
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Talk about someone being in shape…
Have you guys seen Hershel Walker lately, in his MMA?
I heard the dude can still run a 4.40 in the 40.
$$$$$$$$$$
Herchel Walker is a freak of nature.
He been doing 1000 sit ups and 1000 push ups every night since he was in high school.
Started this routine during tv comercials while watching some judge show…Peoples court maybe?
February 9th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Aaliyah….RIP
One in a million, that was on my short list as one of my go-to CD’ sin college.
A little If your girl only knew brings out the freak in a girl!!!!
FACT
February 9th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Hershel Walker to back-up DMAC, if Bush walks?????????
February 9th, 2011 at 9:11 am
A little If your girl only knew brings out the freak in a girl!!!!
FACT
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i can dig it.
i put on “at your best” and let the ladies do their thing.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:12 am
would it be different if the guy was 17yrs old
and the girl was 24yrs old?
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Mack,
I’ve been on both sides of this issue
I dated a 19 year old asian chick when I was 16
I dated a 16 year old chick when I was 19, too.
neither one lasted more than a month or two … big maturity difference
couldn’t take the asian hottie to go dancing at a club. picked up the younger chick from school a few times – both felt weird (and sort of creepy)
February 9th, 2011 at 9:13 am
And on that note….I am off and running.
Raider On
(hire someone already would you Al!!!)
February 9th, 2011 at 9:13 am
couldn’t take the asian hottie to go dancing at a club. picked up the younger chick from school a few times – both felt weird (and sort of creepy)
$$$$$$$$$$
dude, are you scott pilgrim?
February 9th, 2011 at 9:14 am
JFB-
you never answered.
“second coming of jenna jameson”
Pun intended?
just curious thats all
February 9th, 2011 at 9:14 am
are you scott pilgrim?
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Who ???
February 9th, 2011 at 9:14 am
Carl Weathers as Asst LB Coach and Hershel as RB Coach/Strength and Conditioning
February 9th, 2011 at 9:15 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:12 am
would it be different if the guy was 17yrs old
and the girl was 24yrs old?
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Mack,
I’ve been on both sides of this issue
I dated a 19 year old asian chick when I was 16
I dated a 16 year old chick when I was 19, too.
neither one lasted more than a month or two … big maturity difference
couldn’t take the asian hottie to go dancing at a club. picked up the younger chick from school a few times – both felt weird (and sort of creepy)
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I remember when I was 17, bangin a 22,28, and a buddie’s Mom!!
It’s different for a guy…I guess?
February 9th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Le’Ron McClain wants to see more time at RB, can lead block as a FB, and likes working with Al Saunders.
The Raiders need a guy who can be a lead blocking fullback, might need a “bruiser” change-of-pace back if Bush walks, and Al Saunders is the OC.
Almost makes too much sense. McFadden – McClain – Reece would be pretty awesome.
Still, I expect that if Bush DOES walk, his replacement will come via the draft. Sounds like the Raiders are going to try to retain him, though.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:16 am
Scott Pilgrim Against the World…
Its a movie that the main character had to fight off the girl he was dating 7 ex’s…
February 9th, 2011 at 9:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:14 am
are you scott pilgrim?
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Who ???
$$$$$$$$$$
Was a joke. Movie reference.
was in theatres last year.
Title: Scott Pilgrim vs the world.
Stars: Michael Cera.
Its a really cool movie.
a little different.
But if you played 1980’s videogames you would love this movie.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:22 am
and a buddie’s Mom!!
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LOL. dang ray
your life is crazy, like straight out of a movie or something!
February 9th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Didn’t we all have that “friend’s” mom that everyone wanted to…?
February 9th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Sanchez is a goon. Do the Jets come to Oakland next year??
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Yes
NE and NYJ at Oak, and we travel to Buf and Mia
February 9th, 2011 at 9:27 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Didn’t we all have that “friend’s” mom that everyone wanted to…?
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Nope, no Milfs in my life growing up, however, when I was 19 my best friends mom had a thing for me. I took it in stride, but he got very upset about it. I still break his chops to this day over it though.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:30 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:22 am
and a buddie’s Mom!!
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LOL. dang ray
your life is crazy, like straight out of a movie or something!
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When you are 17 you live life to the fullest…like theres no tomorrow!
That was sixteen years ago and don’t regret any of it…maybe the 5′4″, 200 pounder but thats it!
February 9th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Didn’t we all have that “friend’s” mom that everyone wanted to…?
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not me! (not that I can remember anyways)
I did have a teacher accuse me of staring at her breasts though, right in the middle of class. she stopped teaching to scold me for it when I was a SR in high school and she had my gf in her next class (4th period) LOL
talk about embarassing
February 9th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Unless the chick was Miley Cyrus sanchez shouldn’t have even thought about it
February 9th, 2011 at 9:35 am
don’t regret any of it…maybe the 5′4″, 200 pounder but thats it!
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LOL! yikes
big girls need love too, huh?
February 9th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Herchel Walker is a freak of nature.
He been doing 1000 sit ups and 1000 push ups every night since he was in high school.
Started this routine during tv comercials while watching some judge show…Peoples court maybe?
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Al Saunders park like 5 miles away from the facility and jogs to work at like 6AM. And I think he’s 60 something.
As a player, you should see that and want to put down the X Box controller.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:44 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:35 am
don’t regret any of it…maybe the 5′4″, 200 pounder but thats it!
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LOL! yikes
big girls need love too, huh?
$$$$$$$$$$
I like women of all shapes sizes.
They big ones make comfortable pillows.
Just lay your head anywhere on them.
chest, thighs, belly, etc
Its better than memory foam.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:46 am
What do you guys think of Aaron Williams, CB Texas?
February 9th, 2011 at 9:46 am
RRS,
Too funny on that HS incident man. That must have been embarrassing for her to do that to you in front of the whole class. Damn.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:46 am
I did have a teacher accuse me of staring at her breasts though, right in the middle of class. she stopped teaching to scold me for it when I was a SR in high school and she had my gf in her next class (4th period) LOL
still in my top 3 all time too!
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When I was a Senior in HS I had a huge crush on my Economics teacher (she was 22 years old), and she knew it. She had a thing in her class, ace her final and she would take you to dinner. Guess who got a 99% on it… She held me after class and told me straight out that she couldn’t take me out to dinner, it was too well know that I wanted to bag her and the wrong impression would be sent… banged her after graduation to make up for it
February 9th, 2011 at 9:47 am
r8dercain Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:35 am
Unless the chick was Miley Cyrus sanchez shouldn’t have even thought about it
$$$$$$$$$$
hope she learns from lindsey lohans “trangressions” and do not head down the wrong path.
If not i predict a sex tape from hannah montana in the near future…
I wouldnt want to see it, but i know the thought may get a lot of older gentlemen excited.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:47 am
We had a friend in high school (and still a good friend til this day)…his mom was a smoking hot Filipino woman who had him at 15…so you can imagine that she still looked like she was in her early 20’s and banging…
Now, she has picked up the weight but still has a pretty face…however, now her daughter (yes, my friends sister) has taken over…LOL
But, we always did have that code of not dating each other’s sister…
February 9th, 2011 at 9:48 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:46 am
What do you guys think of Aaron Williams, CB Texas?
$$$$$$$$$$
Dont know much about him.
the CB i want is Patt Patterson from LSU
February 9th, 2011 at 9:48 am
I like women of all shapes sizes.
They big ones make comfortable pillows.
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Bigger girls tend to put a little more work in in the sack… I still have a hard time with it though. Not saying I WONT bag a plus size, I just wont talk about it.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:48 am
They big ones make comfortable pillows.
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LOL @ Mack!
so smashing fat chicks is cheaper than buying a new bed?
February 9th, 2011 at 9:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:48 am
They big ones make comfortable pillows.
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LOL @ Mack!
so smashing fat chicks is cheaper than buying a new bed?
LMAO!
February 9th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Just watched some highlights of Aaron Williams in a Texas-Nebraska game from ‘09, and the dude looked pretty good in coverage, and made some solid tackles in the running game.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:51 am
If not i predict a sex tape from hannah montana in the near future…
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I would be willing to wager some cash that there already is a Hannah Montana sex tape… you just wont hear about it because who ever tried to release it would be charged with disemination of child pornography…
February 9th, 2011 at 9:52 am
295.bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:46 am
banged her after graduation to make up for it still in my top 3 all time too!
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That is some cool schytt to have checked off your bucket list.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Too funny on that HS incident man. That must have been embarrassing for her to do that to you in front of the whole class. Damn.
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AIG,
Yup. the sad part is that it wasn’t even true!
I was falsely accused!
she was older than dirt with white hair and a boy haircut … she was teaching us about art in her history class, which bores me to death.
I was staring off into space, zoned out looking at the chalk board and I guess maybe she stepped in front of me because I was SHOCKED when she called me out like that
everybody knew I was dating this hot popular chick at school, so I had no reason to stare at that old bag
Got an A in her class though
February 9th, 2011 at 9:55 am
so smashing fat chicks is cheaper than buying a new bed?
*******
Smashing fatties usually CAUSES the purchase of a new bed.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:59 am
RRS,
Oh damn! That sucked.
I banged this really big chick one time and my whole office knew about it. That was embarrassing.
Then my first gf showed up at my restaurant one time. She had since had 5 kids and ballooned into this huge woman. It was so embarrassing when my wife was there. She looked at me like you bagged that?
February 9th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Smashing fatties usually CAUSES the purchase of a new bed
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LOL!
I imagine theres some truth to that
February 9th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Then my first gf showed up at my restaurant one time. She had since had 5 kids and ballooned into this huge woman. It was so embarrassing when my wife was there. She looked at me like you bagged that?
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LOL!
tough to explain THAT one, eh AIG?
probably made your wife feel like a beauty queen though (not saying she isn’t … but you know what I mean)
February 9th, 2011 at 10:10 am
The best head I ever got came from a fat chick.
It was the bomb!!
LMAO
February 9th, 2011 at 10:10 am
I’m being for real tho.
i lay on them, then lift their limbs to strenthen/tone my muscles.
with both isometric and isotonic muscle contractions.
I am being real serious…
February 9th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Neil B..
good luck tonight..
May I remind you, that you havent won on danish soil in 32 years
February 9th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Carson Palmer put up his home for sale in Cincinnati!
Wonder whats going on in Bengal Country?
February 9th, 2011 at 10:14 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 10:10 am
The best head I ever got came from a fat chick.
It was the bomb!!
LMAO
$$$$$$$$$$
i dont discriminate.
i dont pass up someone for shallow reasons.
If you think about it, its only about 10-15min of your life wasted if you become disinterested during the “exchange”.
always Among consenting adults,
always protect yourself.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:14 am
RRS,
I know what you mean bro. Yeah that was tough considering I was talking a big game about how picky I was with women. Oops.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:15 am
i joke with my friends:
“condoms are for PUNKS”
February 9th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Carson Palmer is intent on leaving and going back to the West Coast. Do it Al!!!!!
Mack,
You’re too funny man. I can’t get it up if my mind is not in it. I have this mental block that says the next one you bag better be better than the last one. If not, then I can’t get it up. I guess you get more anal as you age.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:18 am
She had since had 5 kids and ballooned into this huge woman.
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Dude that happened to me once! This girl Kim I dated in HS, I never shagged her but we messed around a lot. She came up to me in a beer tent at a carnival and was like HEY… blah blah blah. Im like who are you? She seriously looked like Mike Myers with the Fat Bastard fat suit on. It didnt even look real man. It was scary.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Some of the baddest b!tches in high school are hella fat now. You be like “DAAAAAAAAAMN!” when you see them 10 years later.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:21 am
I guess you get more anal as you age.
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LMFAO!!! Not the best choice of phrases considering the context AIG…. BUT it is true… you do get more anal as you age… young chicks just arent into being poked in the brown eye.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:21 am
Carson Palmer is reportedly planning to place his Cincinnati-area house up for sale.
Palmer has told friends that he’s serious about following through on his threat to retire in 2011 even if the Bengals don’t believe him. His real estate agent, for one, believes “he’s not coming back.” Owner Mike Brown has now made it clear several times that he has no intention of trading Palmer. The sides are hunkered down in preparation for a Mexican standoff that could last the entire offseason.
Source: WCPO 9 Cincinnati
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Retire??????
February 9th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Ex- b!tches is exactly why I stay away from FB. I think the Tea Party said it best “Tempatation!”
February 9th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Some of the baddest b!tches in high school are hella fat now. You be like “DAAAAAAAAAMN!” when you see them 10 years later.
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Dude. I am serious when I say this. It wasnt even realistic looking. It was shocking.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:23 am
BCZ,
LMFAO! I was sincerely hoping my ex wouldnt ask for the owner but she did! I was trying to hide in the back room when I recognized her but she had read about me/restaurant in the local paper.
You see a lot of that on FB too. They had a HS reunion for the class of 1990 and I was tripping out with how these hotties from HS that I fantasized about had gone BIGGG!
February 9th, 2011 at 10:23 am
*Temptation!*
February 9th, 2011 at 10:24 am
aig-raiders Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Carson Palmer is intent on leaving and going back to the West Coast. Do it Al!!!!!
Mack,
You’re too funny man. I can’t get it up if my mind is not in it. I have this mental block that says the next one you bag better be better than the last one. If not, then I can’t get it up. I guess you get more anal as you age.
$$$$$$$$$$
Mr Davis is set on Jason Campbell.
I would love to bring carson in here.
49ers might be a more plausible option IF bengals are willing to move him.
And yea, I do beleive in QUALITY over QUANTITY,
but how would i know what her “quality” is if i did not personally find out myself.
Trust me i know im alone on this one.
My friends be like:
” you was with a dime piece last night,
now you trying to holla at HER?!?!?!?”
I’m like: ” if she got a sister/friend, two nickels equals a dime…”
February 9th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Looking at some individual stats (in their category) on NFL.com. Darren McFadden came in @ 6th overall (missing 2 games), Zach Miller (missing 1 game) @ 10th, Jano @ 1st and Raiders Defense @ 7th…not bad!
Hopefully next year we could get our QB and WR’s in the top 10!
February 9th, 2011 at 10:25 am
320.bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 10:21 am
I guess you get more anal as you age.
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LMFAO!!! Not the best choice of phrases considering the context AIG…. BUT it is true… you do get more anal as you age… young chicks just arent into being poked in the brown eye.
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That wasnt my intention but my lil toddler is now asking me what’s so funny dad as I am ROFLMAO at your comments!
February 9th, 2011 at 10:27 am
What about the ugly, goofy, nerdy, dorky chicks that turn into sexy azz chicks? Saw a few of those too.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Hopefully next year we could get our QB and WR’s in the top 10!
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They can stay in the bottom 20 if we win 10+ games!
February 9th, 2011 at 10:27 am
bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 10:21 am
I guess you get more anal as you age.
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LMFAO!!! Not the best choice of phrases considering the context AIG…. BUT it is true… you do get more anal as you age… young chicks just arent into being poked in the brown eye.
$$$$$$$$$$
where you stay at?
You need to come out here in the town.
Only reason i started doing that, was cause them young girls request it.
I use to be like WTF.
Now im like whatever then… i aint trippin
February 9th, 2011 at 10:29 am
my lil toddler is now asking me what’s so funny dad
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AIG,
go to Youtube and show him “Charlie bit my finger”
February 9th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Yeah you can tell its February… we have spent the last 3 hours talking about baggin chicks… LOL. Dont worry though, RMR will be here shortly to mess our fun all up.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Of people (not banks) in the Bay Area who sold their homes in December, 36 percent had to swallow a loss, selling for less than their original purchase price. Another 26 percent of sales were bank-owned foreclosures, which also sell for less than their original value.
– About 23 percent of Bay Area homeowners with a mortgage are underwater, owing more than their house is worth. San Francisco has the fewest underwater homeowners at 7.6 percent; Solano County has the most at 51.6 percent.
– Nationally, 27 percent of homeowners with a mortgage are underwater; for California the figure is 30.5 percent.
SF Gate
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I wonder if Kell would like to weigh in on this ???
February 9th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Hey Mac,
would you take this down???????
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-q9DLWF79lY/TSaawmXHOeI/AAAAAAAAATk/0_MRgu6MxBA/s1600/fat-chick.jpg
LMAO
Im just fk’n wit you.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Hey Mac,
would you take this down???????
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OMG!
I just opened that link at work you crazy s.o.b.
Dmac, just for that I hope you get turf toe on both feet again and Mike Bush steals the show in 2011
February 9th, 2011 at 10:48 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Hey Mac,
would you take this down???????
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-q9DLWF79lY/TSaawmXHOeI/AAAAAAAAATk/0_MRgu6MxBA/s1600/fat-chick.jpg
LMAO
Im just fk’n wit you.
$$$$$$$$$$
I said i dont discriminate.
I did not say that i have low/no standards.
That being said, she does look kind of familiar…
February 9th, 2011 at 10:49 am
You a fool, Mac.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:49 am
332.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 10:29 am
my lil toddler is now asking me what’s so funny dad
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AIG,
go to Youtube and show him “Charlie bit my finger”
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dude, took him to the playground at the mall last week. He brought his little hotwheel with him and some girl wanted it. She proceeded to biting his finger. Freaked out both my son and I. He had 2 lines of tooth marks on his index finger.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:49 am
The NFL and NFLPA have agreed to meet in Washington D.C. into Thursday regarding CBA discussions.
It’s more good news as optimism grows regarding the chances of new Collective Bargaining Agreement being struck before March 4. With the initial obstacle of establishing the March 4 deadline out of the way, the sides can get serious. There appears to be a decent chance that free agency will occur on time.
Source: Trey Wingo on Twitter
February 9th, 2011 at 10:50 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Hey Mac,
would you take this down???????
*******
I officially hate you. That is all.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:50 am
she does look kind of familiar…
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LOL @ Mack
February 9th, 2011 at 10:52 am
337.mack-madden Says:
That being said, she does look kind of familiar…
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Too funny! Hey Mack, I want to take a quick survey here. Are you black? We have a black dude in our group that would bang anyone and everyone. Our group walks around with this belief that brothers dont discriminate when it comes to sex.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:52 am
oh yes your boy right here do the fool on a constant basis.
Just my nature.
I mad at you that i opened that link tho…
even tho i knew better BEFORE i clicked on it.
still, i was curious.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Naw im not black.
Im colorful…
February 9th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Anyone ever shagged a sibling of your ex? I once had a fling with the sister of my then gf in my early 20’s. She turned out to be a freak in bed.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:57 am
i dont think its a “BLACK” thing.
more of the culture/environment one grows up in.
If you saw all your uncles, big cousins, etc. bringing home whoever/whenever.
then having hella fun talkin about it the next day with they friends in front of you and younger siblings, you admire it. get accustomed to it.
you just doing what they did.
Just trying to do what they did but BETTER than how they did it.
February 9th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Just trying to do what they did but BETTER than how they did it.
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Just BETTER? or BIGGER, and BETTER?
LMAO
(Hey, I’m just having a little fun this morning)
LMAO
February 9th, 2011 at 11:00 am
This chick I used to mess with, wasnt my gf by any means, but we did date and i bagged her a few times, had a younger sister in the Air Force stationed at Nellis… I bagged her on New Years Eve at the Imperial Palace in Vegas. Thats the closest for me.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports that the Yankees are not expected to pursue Michael Young.
Scratch another team off the list. The Yankees are set in their infield, so he would have been a poor fit in the Bronx, anyway. Young could still be a useful player for someone, but his massive contract is going to keep most teams away.
Related: Yankees
Source: Buster Olney on Twitter
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If only my Oakland A’s, could make a deal for this dude. We’d be SOLID!!
February 9th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Fun is Fun.
and this is Fun.
not much raider news until a D-cord gets hired.
how else do we fill time until then?
play guessing games on who we hire?
debate 3-4 def vs 4-3 def?
discuss intricacies of single high/deep safety play?
mock drafts?
all fine subjects, but far less entertaining at this stage of the year/season (however you look at it)
February 9th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Yeah, its all good. I’m just saying. Cuz some people take jokes to the heart.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:06 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 11:01 am
Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports that the Yankees are not expected to pursue Michael Young.
Scratch another team off the list. The Yankees are set in their infield, so he would have been a poor fit in the Bronx, anyway. Young could still be a useful player for someone, but his massive contract is going to keep most teams away.
Related: Yankees
Source: Buster Olney on Twitter
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If only my Oakland A’s, could make a deal for this dude. We’d be SOLID!!
$$$$$$$$$$
A’s rather pursue Chone Figgins in past.
Now they seem content with Kouzmanoff.
I would love michael young here.
i would have tried Manny/Vlad to sell some tickets
February 9th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Manny or Vlad would of been the perfect DH, but I forgot we got Godzilla. Young could easily replace Kouz at 3rd, but I doubt the Rangers would trade him within the Div.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:08 am
DMAC Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Yeah, its all good. I’m just saying. Cuz some people take jokes to the heart.
$$$$$$$$$$
Yea, plus its hard to tell if some one is being sarcastic/joking on here.
You will need to classify in (Parenthesis) your sarcasm/joke so no one jumps all on you with insults.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Matsui will most def sell some tickets.
Manny/Vlad would be the Right hnd Power bat.
But i guess we will depend on Chris Carter to be our buster posey for this year.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Yeah, we shall see. The pitching is set, though.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Good move with Beikert as LB coach. He was always a very smart player.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Al Davis might pay Carson Palmer, if he can get off the Jason Campbell is the next Jim Plunkett crap he keeps spewing.
In my opinion Jason Campbell is not even the beginning of a pimple on Jim Pluketts butt!
February 9th, 2011 at 11:24 am
A’s are going to be good this year.
W’s are getting better.
Sharks will go to the finals.
Raiders…10-6 or bust.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:25 am
QBs who are not coming to Oakland:
Carson Palmer
Vince Young
Kyle Orton
Peyton Manning
February 9th, 2011 at 11:39 am
if Jason Campbell is the black Jim Plunkett,
Does that make Jim Plunkett the Latino Jason Campbell?
February 9th, 2011 at 11:42 am
aig-raiders Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 11:24 am
A’s are going to be good this year.
W’s are getting better.
Sharks will go to the finals.
Raiders…10-6 or bust.
$$$$$$$$$$
A’s = will be above .500 team
W’s = will be lucky if .500 team
Sharks = guppies in playoffs
Raiders = division winners
February 9th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Any chance the Raiders can do what they should’ve done last year and get Pouncey?
February 9th, 2011 at 11:44 am
I don’t know, but neither of ‘em got anything on Juice Campkowski
February 9th, 2011 at 11:56 am
# YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 11:25 am
QBs who are not coming to Oakland:
Carson Palmer
Vince Young
Kyle Orton
Peyton Manning
…….
No, but I’ve been reading stories that say Ryan Mallett may drop to 3rd round.
Wonder if Al might take a chance considering he wouldn’t have to start right away? He could get at least 1 to 2 years on the bench with Campbell starting.
February 9th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
We should just stay away from QB this year. JC, while I am not a fan, is NOT the weakest link on the team. Address those needs before getting another QB. Lets be realistic, does anyone feel good about the Raiders organization developing a QB?
February 9th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
From twitter…
FootballPost NationalFootballPost
Real estate listing: Carson Palmer’s house for sale http://bit.ly/hX2ega #NFL
Look for Palmer in Arizona or Buffalo
February 9th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
# bcz24 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
We should just stay away from QB this year. JC, while I am not a fan, is NOT the weakest link on the team. Address those needs before getting another QB. Lets be realistic, does anyone feel good about the Raiders organization developing a QB?
…..
Please don’t think because I suggested it means I support drafting Mallett. I’m just speculating on what
Al might be thinking.
February 9th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Here’s a pic of the new Oakland A’s home uniforms.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110127&content_id=16521908&vkey=news_oak&c_id=oak
(I like)
February 9th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Who is Tommie Hill?
He’s listed as the Raiders 4th DE.
February 9th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
I love this QB only a JR. but Johnny Mac’s got skills!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0WMd0Y6hIw
February 9th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
371.GG Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Who is Tommie Hill?
He’s listed as the Raiders 4th DE.
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Camp punching bag. He used to be on the Giants, and some Canandian team.
February 9th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
# GG Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Who is Tommie Hill?
He’s listed as the Raiders 4th DE.
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Looks like he spent a little time w/ the Giants, so he might be a Waffle guy.
February 9th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
im a chicken & waffle guy myself
February 9th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Well, I guess Chuck B is the DC. Raiders must have been turned down by the Super Bowl contingent.
February 9th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Obviously Davis knew all along it would be Chuck B.
February 9th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Well, I guess Chuck B is the DC. Raiders must have been turned down by the Super Bowl contingent.
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They announce it or your own conjecture?
February 9th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
My own conjecture.
Usually correct.
February 9th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Nah, Winston’s just hammering out the contract details.
Nickel Pass Defense Assistant Coach Bresnehan will serve in a purely clandestine capacity.
February 9th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Chuck Bresnahan = secret GM
February 9th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Nah, Chuck B is the DC. Davis don’t pay for extra coaches.
February 9th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Chuck B = Al’s new Randy Hanson aka the snitch. How’s that marriage working out Hue?
February 9th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
snitches get stitches.
or get found in ditches…
February 9th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Chuck B
Wiz
Biekert
Hes’s got plenty snitches.
February 9th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
yep YoungAmerican, Johnny Rivers saw this one comin’…
There’s a man who lives a life of danger,
To everyone he meets he stays a stranger,
With every move he makes another chance he takes,
Odds are you won’t live to see tomorrow…
Secret Bres-na-han, Secret Bres-na-han, they’ve given you a contract and taken away your game
Beware of pretty faces that you find,
A pretty face can hide an evil mind,
A, be careful what you say,
Or you’ll give yourself away,
Odds are you won’t live to see tomorrow…
Secret Bres-na-han, Secret Bres-na-han, they’ve given you a contract and taken away your game
Swingin’ on the Riviera one day,
Layin’ in a Bombay alley next day,
Oh no, you let the wrong word slip
While kissing persuasive lips,
The odds are you won’t live to see tomorrow…
Secret Bres-na-han, Secret Bres-na-han, they’ve given you a contract and taken away your game
February 9th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Ahahahahaha. Awesome.
February 9th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
I dont get it.
I tried to read that to the tune of “secret Lovers”.
that did not work out too well for me
February 9th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
384.mack-madden Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
snitches get stitches.
or get found in ditches…
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Lil Redskins?
February 9th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
384.mack-madden Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
snitches get stitches.
or get found in ditches…
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Lil Redskins?
$$$$$$$$$$
I admit, i must be real slow today.
i dont get the lil redskins question.
Snitches get stitches or get found in ditches was just a saying around the neighborhood.
it is used to deter folks from talking/reporting anything to the police.
February 9th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
JaJenna JaJameson sucking is a good thing.
JaJason at QB is not.
JaJason sucks.
February 9th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Campbell doesnt suck.
I admit, after that 49er game i did not want to see him take another snap for the raiders.
Guy got flaws no doubt.
slow wind up/release.
inaccurate deep ball.
but guy also got skills.
he more mobile than people give him credit for.
kept a lot of plays alive with his feet.
scrambled for crucial 1st downs.
GREAT at selling the play action.
But he really improved as the season went on.
Guess he got more comfortable with new team/new system.
i dont know.
all i know is that he did play better midway to the end of the year.
February 9th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
After a whole lot of speculation on Tuesday, the Cardinals have settled on their next defensive coordinator.
The team announced they hired Ray Horton, who was working as Pittsburgh’s secondary coach. Horton will keep Arizona’s primary 3-4 defense intact and look for ways to improve the team’s pass rush.
Ken Whisenhunt has accomplished a ton of great things in Arizona, but he’s unquestionably done a poor job building a consistent defensive appoach. This is Whisenhunt’s third defensive coordinator since 2008.
Horton, 50, has coached in the NFL 17 years. Most of them have been under Dick LeBeau. The Steelers reportedly denied Arizona permission to talk to Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/cardinals-choose-ray-horton-as-defensive-coordinator/
February 9th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
but guy also got skills.
he more mobile than people give him credit for.
kept a lot of plays alive with his feet.
scrambled for crucial 1st downs.
GREAT at selling the play action.
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The game in SD applies to the above. However, the rest of the games down the stretch were lousy. His stats looked great on paper in Jax but it was all DMAC taking a dump off and take it in for 6. He struggled mightily against Den, Indy and KC.
February 9th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Al Davis just missed on the Executive of the Year Award.
In one category, an award issued by Sporting News remains officially unofficial, primarily since the AP has no award for the category of executive of the year. Sporting News has spoken, and the winner is Falcons G.M. Thomas Dimitroff.
“I am thrilled for and proud of Thomas and his staff,” Falcons owner Arthur M. Blank said in a statement released by the Falcons. “Winning this award twice in three years is validation and recognition of Thomas’ many contributions not only to building a winning team over his first three seasons, but his unwavering focus and vision for this team’s future. He is truly deserving of this award.”
Other candidates for 2010 were — or at least should have been — Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli, Buccaneers G.M. Mark Dominik, Jets G.M. Mike Tannenbaum, and Packers G.M. Ted Thompson.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/dimitroff-wins-sporting-news-executive-of-the-year-award/
February 9th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Shaun Rogers just got cut from the Browns. Go get ‘em Al!
February 9th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
You made some valid points.
His mobility is better than credited for.
His performance improved compared to the first part of the season.
But make no mistake, JaJason is still a bottom tier QB.
Reading through these posts, it occurred to me that virtually every HC or OC that had JaJason at QB was fired.
Thus, JaJason has the ‘non-continuity’ excuse, after 7 years in the NFL, to explain why he still looks lost on the field.
At some point one has to wonder whether any HC or OC can win with JaJason at the helm.
I seem to recall JaJason admitting after 4 games last year that he still wasn’t fully in command of the playbook.
At some point one has to wonder why JaJason can’t complete intermediate and deep passes with any consistency.
Is there a reason JaJason rarely even attempts going 15 yards downfield ?
Could the reason be that he knows he doesn’t have the accuracy or ability to read a defense in order to do so ?
Besides the laser to Murphy on 4th down that preceded Ford’s miracle catch that set up the game tying FG against KC, and Ford’s long reception in OT the same game — can anyone mention even a handful of JaJason pass attemps or completions over 20 yards ??
And please don’t use a 5 yard dumpoff to DMAC against JAX that wound up going for 70 as an example of JaJason going downfield.
JaJason will be under alot more pressure to get the ball downfield this coming season.
After the Colt game JaJason got a call from Al, asking him why the ball didn’t go downfield more. JaJason responded ‘they were playing alot of cover-2′.
JaJason will not remain the Raid starting QB for long if he isn’t willing to ‘let it go’ once in a while. And he won’t remain the starting QB for long if he doesn’t get results when he does attempt a pass longer than 15 yards.
Hue Jackson won’t keep his job unless JaJason produces or unless Hue benches JaJason.
I’ll be shocked if JaJason plays well enough to remain the Raider starting QB for more than half the 2011 season.
JaJason sucks.
February 9th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
DE – Seymour
NT – Rogers
DE – Kelly
with Houston, Shaughnessy as backups and bringing the heat on passing downs. The Raiders could make a 3-4 work with that. You could even stand Shaughnessy up as a rush OLB.
February 9th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
I forgot Henderson would be solid as a backup too.
February 9th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
JaTrolls suck, too.
February 9th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 11:44 am
I don’t know, but neither of ‘em got anything on Juice Campkowski
…………..
Really?
February 9th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I don’t like Jason Campbell facing the blitz. But then again, when you’re talking about Raiders quarterbacks, you have to consider game planning, offensive line, and surrounding talent, too, because the Raiders are perennially one of the worst teams in the league when it comes to cohesion, system, and execution. Campbell’s inability to read blitzes and find hot routes could very well be due to the Raiders’ offensive strategy having no answer for the blitz other than additional blockers. In other words, there may not be a hot route. Just 2 or 3 receivers and a tight end running 20 yards down field.
February 9th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Jon Gruden
February 9th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Hue’s number one offensive priority: Building an offensive gameplan that counters and exploits the blitz. This way, if we accomplish nothing else, we at least know if Campbell’s problems are his how, or the fault of the system he’s in.
February 9th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
404.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Hue’s number one offensive priority: Building an offensive gameplan that counters and exploits the blitz. This way, if we accomplish nothing else, we at least know if Campbell’s problems are his how, or the fault of the system he’s in.
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It is the fault of his small brain!
February 9th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Ron Wolf
February 9th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
Four oh eight?
February 9th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
And I’d give Russell the same benefit of the doubt. We’ll never know what kind of NFL QB JaMarcus Russell could have been until we’ve seen him in a real NFL offense, with real NFL coaches, groomed into a real NFL system. I know he’s got some serious off field issues, but a lot of what’s been said about his work ethic and approach to the game came from Raiders’ management, and they have not an ounce more credibility with me than Russell or any of his handlers.
February 9th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Rich Gannon
February 9th, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Wayne Valley
February 9th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I would love to pic up Shaun Rogers if we are in fact switching to a 3-4. Then we can draft a good prospect in the mid rounds of the draft to sub in, along with John Henderson. I think we would have a legit 3-4 if we get rodgers and one more NT type player: 325+lb nose tackle. Go get Darren Perry first though!
The comment I earlier said Seymour, Rogers, and Kelly as the 3 down linemen. The only thing I disagree with is I think Lamarr Houston would be the other starting DE from Seymour. Kelly could try to play NT (like Jay Ratliff in Dallas) or end, but he is best used as a pass rusher. IF we are going 3-4 I would consider trading Kelly to a 4-3 team line NYG or Vikings, considering his value is probably the highest its ever been. Maybe we could get a mid roud pick for him.
This is all IF and only IF we are switching to a 3-4.
The other train of thought is if it aint broke dont fix it. Our d-line was pretty darn good last season, so we could focus on continuing that and bringing in more Shaugnessys and Houstons through the draft.
Thats what the NYG do so well and why they are near the top every season in defense. the go about 7 or 8 deep of quality defensive line players. Depth is a big deal.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
You made some valid points.
His mobility is better than credited for.
His performance improved compared to the first part of the season.
But make no mistake, JaJason is still a bottom tier QB.
$$$$$$$$$$
he is atleast at the TOP of the bottom tier of QBs.
15th-20th?
The Bottom Feeder Leader of QBs.
He not elite, prolly will never be, but all we need is for him to make plays during crucial moments of the game either with his arm or feet.
I am willing to give him another year.
i will admit, first couple games last year i did scream at my TV that he sucks.
but that was more heat of the moment than anything.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Want to fix the Raiders?
Buy them..
Worth 730-760M..
Overhead 300-375M
Net worth 400M + or –
Wave 1.5 — 2Billion under Al’s sleepy eye..
Then YOU can fix them..
February 9th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Raiderman99
I’ll be shocked if JaJason plays well enough to remain the Raider starting QB for more than half the 2011 season.
$$$$$$$$$$
Prepare to be shocked,(atleast i hope so) Jason Campbell playing well will equal a playoff berth.
Pending Run game.
Pending Defense.
Pending Special Teams ofcourse.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Fix the raiders?
I cant even fix myself a good sandwich.
Buy the raiders?
I cant even afford to pay attention.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
AIG-
The game in SD applies to the above. However, the rest of the games down the stretch were lousy. His stats looked great on paper in Jax but it was all DMAC taking a dump off and take it in for 6. He struggled mightily against Den, Indy and KC.
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It’s hard to complete a dump off pass in the NFL.
see jamarcus russell.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Hue Jackson & Al Saunders ought to provide for a pretty good offense.
But the defense still belongs to senile Davis.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Mack-Madden….
Just sayin…
Seems to be a lot of folks here, who think they could do it better…
February 9th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Cleveland just cut Shawn Rodgers, we should pick him up before the March 3rd deadline
February 9th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
I would love for us to pick up Rodgers. Dude says on game days he doesn’t brush his teeth. He says he lines up at barks and (literally) talks sh!t to the other team’s O-Line.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Yeah he’s a beast in the middle man
February 9th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Raiders not going 3-4, with Mike Wauffle, ok?
Get that through your thick heads!
February 9th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Mack,
JC is the best dumpoff QB in the league. No doubt.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
424.aig-raiders Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Mack,
JC is the best dumpoff QB in the league. No doubt.
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One of the best 4th qtr QB’s in the league, too.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
KK,
Really? When the game is out of touch and he’s padding his stats (Indy?)
I remembered his 4th qtr against Jax too. That worked out real well. We didnt even get a chance.
February 9th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Shaun Rogers:
In June 2007, Rogers was accused of sexually assaulting curtis patterson.[6][7] Charges were never filed due to lack of evidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Rogers_(American_football)
February 9th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
AIG
When’s the last time the Raiders had a 8-5 QB?
Alright then!
February 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
First of all,
The Raiders didnt have an 8-5 QB. Could you tell me where he got his 8 wins?
Please explain how he was instrumental in any of our 8 wins this year. I’ll wait patiently. NOBODY has been able to explain to me that JC was the reason for any of our 8 wins. NONE. Why dont you give it a shot?
February 9th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Stupid arsed question, no wonder you don’t get any responses.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
# 909RaiderLifer Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Mack-Madden….
Just sayin…
Seems to be a lot of folks here, who think they could do it better…
…………
So you’re only defense of Al Davis is that his critics don’t have the money to buy out his franchise, so therefore they have no way of proving they could run the team better than him?
I’ll remember that when you criticize, say, Phillip Rivers. Let’s see you get drafted by the San Diego Chargers…and do better. Come on, do it. Enter the NFL draft next year, and get drafted by the Chargers, and then show me you’re better than Rivers. That’s what I thought.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Soup was #2 in the league in 4th quarter QB rating.
However, overall he was 19th.
So that means in the first 3 quarters, he was one of the worst QB’s in the NFL.
Games like Tennessee, Seattle and Indy he padded his 4th quarter stats with a bunch of garbage-time yards and TD’s.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
San Diego game 117 passer rating.
Denver game 127.9 passer rating
Seattle game 120.9 passer rating
San Diego #2 105 passer rating
For example, so he did contribute to quite a few victories last year.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
First of all,
The Raiders didnt have an 8-5 QB. Could you tell me where he got his 8 wins?
Please explain how he was instrumental in any of our 8 wins this year.
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If you don’t understand how a starting QB contributes to victories, you need a primer in football.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
San Diego game 117 passer rating.
Denver game 127.9 passer rating
Seattle game 120.9 passer rating
San Diego #2 105 passer rating
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If Garbagekowski had ANY of those numbers, he’d get the credit. Believe that!
February 9th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Soup was #2 in the league in 4th quarter QB rating.
However, overall he was 19th.
So that means in the first 3 quarters, he was one of the worst QB’s in the NFL.
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Nope, that doesn’t follow.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
2) DT/NT Phil Taylor (Baylor), OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State), CB Jimmy Smith (Colorado) or CB Curtis Brown (Texas)
3) OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin), OLB Casey Matthews (Oregon), or OLB Greg Jones (Michigan State)
4) OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida) or DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame)
5) C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock)
6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
7) WR Ricardo Lockette (Ford Valley State) or RB Robert Hughes (Notre Dame)
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Then attempt to bring Miller, Asomugha, Seymour, Wimbley, Huff, Routt, Bush, Reece, Condo and Cartwright all back into the fold.
If Huff walks, sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.
If Bush walks, sign Le’Ron McClain or bring in a rookie.
If Asomugha walks, sign Jonathan Joseph and/or find a CB via the draft.
If Routt walks, sign Richard Marshall or find a CB via the draft.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
100 QB rating in 4th quarter.
84 in total.
So on a weighted average he would be at around 73 (give or take a few points) for quarters 1-3.
73 QB rating = bottom of the league
February 9th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
100 QB rating in 4th quarter.
84 in total.
So on a weighted average he would be at around 73 (give or take a few points) for quarters 1-3
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I can’t confirm that and neither can you.
But your boy Garbagekowski finished with a 66 passer rating. So you’re obviously partisan and disingenuous, as usual.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Young American
I agree with drafting either Penn St’s Wisneiwski or CO’s J. Smith on UNC’s Carter; if none of these three are available we should trade down a 4-10 spots and move up our 3rd and/or 4th round picks.
February 9th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Word, trading down could help. I’m just going off the picks the Raiders currently have.
Although do they still owe draft picks for the Groves or Wimbley trades? I’m trying to find the Raiders’ draft order online and I can’t seem to track down anything.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
A Raider QB, of all people, goes 8-5 in his first year here and he’s a bum?
GTF outta here.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
The God Like Rich Gannon had a 86 rating his first year here, and a career passer rating of 84.7
GTF outta here.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
I can’t confirm that and neither can you.
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Weighted averages is not that hard.
Now it is not 100% accurate since he did not throw the same amount of passes every quarter.
But he had an 84 QB rating on the season. If he had a 100 QB rating in the 4th quarter, pretty safe to say he had a sub 80 QB rating the rest of the games.
And the actual W-L record is 0-3 for Bruce when he played the whole game, 6-4 for JC when he played the whole game (not including the 2 games he weenied out of a series), and 2-1 in games with a switch (STL, SD1, Pitt).
February 9th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
When’s the last time the Raiders had a 8-5 QB?
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When’s the last time the Raiders had a HC go 6-0 in the divison?
February 9th, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Jerry McDonald says Jason Campbell was 8-5 this year.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
When’s the last time the Raiders had a HC go 6-0 in the divison?
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Loooong time.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
McDonald is wrong than.
You going to give him credit for the STL win??
0-3 for Bruce
6-4 for Soup
2-1 with a switch
FACT
February 9th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
0-3 for Bruce
6-4 for Soup
2-1 with a switch
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8-5
February 9th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Jason Campbell and Rich Gannon each won 8 games in their first season here with the same passer rating.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
off topic here ,how do you think mike tyson would do in the ufc today if he was in his prime?
February 9th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Well I guess I can’t expect a realtor to be above fudging a number or two.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
lol…….or a Bond Salesman.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Mike Tyson = overrated
Burt Sugar, universally regarded as top Boxing aficionado, rated Tyson as the #100 ranked boxer of all-time, and somewhere around #12 heavyweight.
Teddy Atlas said that King and his camp purposedly ducked Riddick Bowe and Ray Mercer because they knew he stood no chance, and they never wanted him to fight Holyfield.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
6) Mike Tyson – Tyson was perhaps in his prime the ultimate pressure fighter, he had great power and speed in both hands and could take a very good punch. He was another D’Amato fighter like Patterson so he had great head movement. The reason that Tyson is not ranked higher is that he did not face great opposition in his prime.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2009/10/top-ten-heavyweight-champions-of-all-time/
February 9th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
yea its hard to say i wouldve like to see how he did .seems like boxing has taken a back seat to mma
February 9th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Starting Monday the SF Giants embark on what will be another championship season.
Maybe the A’s could add another section of tarps to that gawd-awful place you call a baseball park.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:38 pm
3. Sonny Liston, 4. George Foreman, 5. Mike Tyson: I’ll hazard my best guess and list ‘em in this order, but we’re really talking about a single entity here: The Beast.
There have been other devastating punchers who wore the heavyweight-championship belt (see Nos. 2, 7 and 9), but these three epitomize the tough-guy mystique the heavyweight championship is supposed to stand for (sorry, Cassius). All three spent a good deal of their lives on the wrong side of the law (only Foreman was eventually able to turn things around), and all three delighted in terrifying opponents into virtual submission before the first bell. Not many authorities would rate this trio so highly, but I don’t think Liston and Foreman should be unduly penalized for succumbing to the Ali genius. Louis’s lightning fists might have knocked them out before they had a chance to get him first, but, with all due respect to the men listed below, I don’t think any of them could have done what Ali did — found the magic to beat Liston and Foreman. As for Tyson, his demonstrated lack of success against opponents who aren’t terrified of him makes him difficult to rate. Who’s to say whether, say, Joe Frazier would have been afraid of him? For purposes of this ranking, in any case, I’m talking not about The Mouth That Gored, but about the Cus D’Amato Tyson, the perpetual-motion buzzsaw who didn’t stop until the opponent fell. The slow, lazy, don’t-mind-being-hit Mike Tyson who was undone by Buster Douglas and Evander Holyfield certainly would have been undone by Gene Tunney and Jack Johnson, but the real Mike Tyson, Cus’s perfect synthesis of Liston and Patterson, was an awesome specimen indeed. I think even an unafraid Holyfield would have been knocked out by this fighter.
http://www.theslot.com/alltime.html
February 9th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Bert Sugar has him #14.
Is “Boxingnews24.com” in the boxing HOF as a writer?
Mercer, Bowe, Michael Moore, even the Tommy Morrisons, Chris Byrd’s, and Bert Cooper’s he ducked.
Instead he made a name knocking out Bruce Seldom and Peter McNeeley.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I think even an unafraid Holyfield would have been knocked out by this fighter.
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And you expect me to take this serious??
February 9th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I bet Muhammad Ali was before your time JFB? Boy, you would have hated him!!!!!
February 9th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Saying JaJason was the reason the Raids won 8 games is like saying the Ravens won a SB because of Trent Dilfer.
I’m not saying JaJason didn’t play decently in several games. He did. I thought his best game was the first SD game. Those 2 long 4th qtr drives were beautifully executed (even if JaJason didn’t do much with his arm), and truth be told, that game saved the Raider season.
JaJason did play well in several games. JaJason is at his best when he just has to manage a game, and is NOT being relied upon to make a play.
If you’re going to ask JaJason to be a playmaker, it’s simply not going to happen.
And if you want to be more than mediocre in the NFL (unless your team has a dominant defense), you need a playmaker and leader at QB.
That’s NOT JaJason.
JaJason was absolutely PATHETIC against Tenn, StLou, SF, Pitt, and 90% of the first KC game.
JaJason either can’t or won’t get the ball downfield.
I’m reluctant to criticize JaJason for being ‘Captain Checkdown’. I prefer JaJason checking down and hoping someone else will make a play, rather than watching his offtarget passes getting picked.
A man’s got to know his limitations and JaJason clearly knows his.
Doesn’t mean I’m going to accept him as starting QB, the Raids and Raider fans deserve better.
JaJason sucks.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Yeah I’m sure Joe Frazier would have been more my style.
Not as talented, was more of the underdog, stayed humble, and didn’t mouth off.
My kind of a guy.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
433.KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
If you don’t understand how a starting QB contributes to victories, you need a primer in football.
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You’re gonna tell me JC gets the credit for the STL win? LFMAO!!!!!!!
Even his current coach admitted that JC deserved to get yanked for that game. But go ahead and spin your bs KK.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
RAIDERMAN99 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
Saying JaJason was the reason the Raids won 8 games is like saying the Ravens won a SB because of Trent Dilfer.
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More flawed logic.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Even his current coach admitted that JC deserved to get yanked for that game. But go ahead and spin your bs KK.
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His current Coach said he played flawlessly down the stretch. And is the unquestioned starter for next year.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Vegas,
Post 431 you say JC padded his stats with a bunch of meaningless 4th qtr stats vs Indy. That drives me crazy.
That Alex dude always acts like the Indy game was a blowout, because JC sucks and the Raiders can’t play with NFL big boys.
I say BS. The Colt game was not a blowout loss by anymeans. That game was very competitive. Look it up.
It was 17-16 midway through 3rd qtr. 24-19 early in the fourth. The Colts scored with 7 mins left to go up by two scores. Campbell led the raiders to a TD to pull within 31-26 with two minutes to go.
The Raiders were going for an onside kick with 1:50 left, down by 5. That is not a blowout loss with meaningless stat padding going on, in my book.
Add to that that the Seymour-less defense couldn’t stop the Colts ground game all day. JC was not the reason they lost.
You and that Alex joker act like it was 31-10 and JC added a couple of late scores to make it look closer than it was. That just isn’t accurate, or fair.
February 9th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
I just don’t know where a “Raider Fan”, of all people, with the worst QB play and stinkiest franchise over the last 10 years, get’s off blaming a 8-5 QB?
February 9th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
JC is far from perfect, but until further notice he’s the “unquestioned starter”. Carson Palmer and Vince Young are not coming to Oakland.
For now, all we can do is hope that Campbell continues to improve in the Raiders’ system, and that the Raiders put more talent around him.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
The reason that Tyson is not ranked higher is that he did not face great opposition in his prime.
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Works both ways.
He might have been exposed and ranked lower had he faced better opposition.
IMO, Tyson was a great puncher, but not much more.
For a few years it was a KO parade, but after Buster and Evander – Tyson showed absolutely nothing.
Tyson was a force of nature that burnt out kind of quickly and once his KO power dissipated and opponents could survive his onslaught he displayed little of the requisite skills to be regarded as an all time great.
He was fun to watch though.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
442.KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
The God Like Rich Gannon had a 86 rating his first year here, and a career passer rating of 84.7
GTF outta here.
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Rich Gannon led his team. JC rode his team’s tail. Dont even dare tell me he’s on the same level as Rich Gannon. That would only confirm that you need help.
All you have to do is youtube the following to see the diff.
Rich Gannon 2 min drill vs Jets
JaPanic 2 min drill vs Jags
Puhleeezzz!
February 9th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
I could see if “you people” were used to seeing Peyton Manning playing for the Raiders the last 10 years.
4-12
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
5-11
And you have the temerity to blast a 8-5 QB?
Especially from someone who calls himself AlisGod?
C’mom, man.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Buckeye,
Watched the game live and now am looking at the play-by-play right now.
4th quarter:
24-16 and we get a pick at the Indy 35. One completion, one incompletion, sack, 3 points.
Get the ball back after an Indy TD with 8 minutes to go now down 31-19.
Two checkdowns for 8 yards, two incompletions, turnover on downs, zero first downs.
Remarkably, the Colts go nowhere and punt, up 31-19 with 5 minutes to go.
Soup goes down the field and throws his only TD of the game. Failed onside-kick and ballgame.
He got his only TD, 9 of his 23 completions, and 93 of his 231 yards on that last drive.
Prior to that last mostly meaningless drive, he was 20 of 32 for 138 yards and no TD’s.
Ends up 29-42 for 231 and 1.
Junk time stats.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=301226013&period=4
February 9th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Against Indy,
1. Jacoby Ford had a KO Ret for TD.
2. Seabass made a 59 yd FG so that’s really on the ST.
3. In the 4th Qtr, we got a turn over and started at Indy 37 which ended up with another FG.
That’s a total of 13 points by ST and D. Our offense scored 13 points and 7 of those was late in the game with the Colts playing prevent D.
So yeah, JC’s lousy performance was masked by the final game stats. Dig a little deeper and you can see he didnt do crap. Even Al Davis called his ass up to explain what happened.
I’ve been saying all season long. You dig a little deeper into the game and JC is no where to be found.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
KK,
I see you are still ducking my question. How did JC earned that win against STL?
BTW, I still see the same delusional and incompetent QB out there in JaPanic. Had he been a mediocre QB, we’d be in the playoff. I’m sick of excuses made for him. Aaron Rodgers did pretty well on a day that his team abandoned the run in the biggest game of the year. How did JC do offensively on a day that DMAC or Bush couldnt get it going?
February 9th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
2011 is all Soup, we shall see what he does with his opportunity.
No excuses. Same year in the system, same OC he had earlier in his career.
Coming off an 8-8 year, 6-0 in the division.
Anything less than 9-7 is unacceptable.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Like I said at the time, I blame the Indy loss on Al Davis. Passing the ball 42 times while DMac/Bush sat around and watched.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Jason Campbell is not Aaron Rodgers.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
A real QB handles the pressure well. That’s the difference between a legit QB and an impostor. JC can’t handle the pressure. That’s why he can never carry the team. As the QB you have to carry your team. Never have and never will.
Proof?
JC 2 min drill vs the Lions 2009.
JC 2 min drill vs Jax 2010.
Exact same scenarios and he dumped off both times to end the game.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Goog eve Aig, JFB, YA, KK, NATION.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Man, I miss Jeff Hostetler. Just watched some youtubes on him and Brown. Jeff and Rich are our 2 best QBs since Plunkett. It’s a shame our D was horrid during Jeff’s tenure.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
When an Aaron Rodgers-caliber QB is available to the Raiders, then there will be a point to this discussion.
Until then? All the Raiders can do is continue to put more talent around Campbell and hope his play improves.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Heya Raccoon.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Jason Campbell is not Aaron Rodgers.
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Oakland Raiders aint the Green Bay Packers.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Sup Dirty.
Did you catch the morning crew’s conversation today? Funny stuff man and scroll up if you havent read it.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Until then? All the Raiders can do is continue to put more talent around Campbell and hope his play improves.
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So true. We dont have a choice. As much as I can’t stand JaPanic, he’s here until Al Davis says otherwise. My hunch is Hue will save his own butt first before he saves Japanic’s.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
4-12
5-11
4-12
2-14
4-12
5-11
5-11
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That’s the Oakland Raiders not Jason Campbell.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Who knows, maybe Al can trade his 2012 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft picks to take Andrew Luck #1 overall.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
How could the Raids manage 8 wins with JaJason at the helm ?
Simple.
JaJason was buttressed by the NFL’s second ranked rushing attack.
In games where the Raider rush was limited and the onus was on the passing game, JaJason couldn’t pick up the slack.
Don’t ask or expect JaJason to make a play with his arm or score points through the air – bcz it’s not happening.
I hope JaJason proves me wrong in 2011.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
Sorry fellas. But, I’m not buying it. I contend to blame that loss on JC is unfair. The Colts won both sides of the LOS.
For whatever reason the Raiders were unable/unwilling to run the ball. For some reason the Colts seemed to be able to “switch” on the run D late in the year after being ranked dead last most of the season. I believe they shut down MJD and the Jags the following week. Then, Freeney and Mathis had their way with the Rook and Langston Walker.
Plus, his critcs say he can’t or won’t throw the deep ball and is content to checkdown, I believe that is the game he threw a perfect pass 35-40 yds downfield. Ball went right through Murphy’s hands.
There are no moral victories and the bottom line is they didn’t get it done. The had to be deflated finding out just before kickoff that they’d been eliminated. They were game. They were not routed and gave the Colts hell. To imply that it was a route and JC just padded his stats in a meaningless 4th qtr is wrong.
That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it. lol.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Who knows, maybe Al can trade his 2012 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft picks to take Andrew Luck #1 overall.
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Then we can all watch this incompetent franchise ruin him as well.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
per wiki….
Career Win/LossAs a starter Jason Campbell has a record of 27 wins and 37 losses
February 9th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Wait…has this become another round of JC vs BG? I hope I’m reading that wrong…however, JC has played his best when he didn’t have to look over his shoulder (when Bruce was forced on IR)…but JC is no long term answer. I’ll just hope that he gets better and more confident this year and with a full (hopefully) offseason to work with his offense!
February 9th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Aig-Raiders Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
per wiki….
Career Win/LossAs a starter Jason Campbell has a record of 27 wins and 37 losses
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Much better than Rich Gannon’s career after 6 years.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Buck
I’m not blaming that loss on JC by no means. I blame that loss squarely on Hue Jackson’s game plan of abandoning our ground game and best offensive player DMAC.
I just dont get this myth that “JC played well down the stretch.” When you dig a little deeper, you dont see anything that mattered from him at all.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Buck,
I don’t blame the loss of the Indy game on Soup. Lack of a running game was a deviation from our style of what was successful.
I just won’t buy that he played well. He got a ton of opportunities, a couple of turnovers on the other side of the 50 and did squat with them.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
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# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Who knows, maybe Al can trade his 2012 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft picks to take Andrew Luck #1 overall.
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Then we can all watch this incompetent franchise ruin him as well.
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Haha it’s entirely possible. Or he’ll be the first successful QB the Raiders have drafted since Stabler. Crazier s**t has happened.
If the Raiders have another good draft that helps solidify the offensive and defensive lines, it’ll be a lot easier for a QB to succeed here.
Maybe Veldheer-Wisniewski will be the next Shell-Upshaw. All we can do is hope…
February 9th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
No it’s not JC vs BG. It’s strictly about JC. BG is going to be in Seattle as soon as they have a CBA imo. Tom Cable has full control on the offense and you know he will bring in BG there.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
Ok fellers, this argument is useless and subjective. We’ll see next year. JC will be the starter. I think Jackson & Saunders will have a pretty good offense/out.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
KK,
Are you willing to go on record on here that JC is going to be better than Rich Gannon?
February 9th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Yo JFB,
How do you catch the W’s? On tV or pirated net?
February 9th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
I got Gannon as 19-19 through his first 6 years, and 31-27 before joining the Raiders.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GannRi00.htm?redir
February 9th, 2011 at 7:41 pm
I agree with that AIG…BG and Gallerey will be up North once the CBA is settled…
February 9th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
AIG,
I am in a Hampton Inn right now, and am trying to listen to Tim Roye on some internet radio.
I bought a sports package on Direct TV that gives me a handful of the Fox Sports Net stations.
I get the Denver, Phoenix, San Antonio, Dallas and Utah Fox Sports feeds, so usually see at least 1 W’s game a week.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
If you guys are missing channelsurfing or similar sites, then try this one.
Best quality I have seen yet.
http://www.mysectortv.net/
February 9th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
Thanks for the link, AIG.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
travelling again huh bud? Which city now? I hate travelling for business. How’s the strip club there?
February 9th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Question, is JaJason, JaPanic etc, the race card, or is it just me?
February 9th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
You’re welcome.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Vegas,
But on a lighter note..the local news showed the Reds packing up and getting ready to head to AZ for spring training.
Gawd knows I’m ready for spring. This winter has absolutely sucked.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
I’m in Farmington, heading to Cortez, CO tomorrow.
No strip clubs.
Funny thing though (I had to take a picture, it is FB worthy) there is this big Adult Video store, and right next to it some religious group put up a big billboard up with a picture of Jesus with the quote “He is watching you”.
LMAO!!!
February 9th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
what bruce will be in seattle this coming season?? you can’t possibly mean bruce gradkowski.. did pete carroll die??
February 9th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Oh to be in Scottsdale for Spring Training……….
Nothing but fake blondes, fake boobs, and tons of hope for every baseball fan.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
dude, I see signs like too on i40 in the South. They’re usually next to an Adult shop for truckers. Pretty funny for sure.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
I’m moving to Chandler, AZ this August and will be there until after Spring Training 2012. My buddies house is next door to where the Dodgers train. Gonna fun as heck with all their strip clubs there too. Very high quality.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Question fellas, is JaJason, JaPanic etc, the race card, or is it just me?
February 9th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Bruce was at some car dealership in Stockton yesterday, signing autographs and rep-ing the Raiders.
I don’t think he will be back next year, but he sure is doing a ton of Raider PR this offseason.
Going to the labor talks, doing Comcast media pieces, signing autographs at car dealerships.
Kind of bizarre.
February 9th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Pete Carroll didnt die. He just delegated the whole offense to Tom Cable.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Dodgers are in Glendale right?
My cousin use to write for the A’s and Giants for the Trib, went to Spring Training 01,02, and 03.
Dodgers weren’t there yet, but went to Suprise, Mesa, Scottsdale….I think a few others.
Super-duper cool if you are a baseball fan.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
I’ll go ahead and speak for the group.
It is just you Kool Kell.
I prefer to call him Soup, but JaPanic is pretty good.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:04 pm
I see, thanks.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
I’m probably a lil overly sensitive to how the Raiders are portrayed and reported on by the media, especially BSPN.
Ii always complain that they get ripped, but did anybody else see the Raiders get a lil love on BSPN today?
The question was …which new coach in ‘11 will have the greatest chance at success. Bruschi said Jason Garrett. He said he liked what he saw as an iterim coach.
Antonio Pierce said our boy Hue. He actually called them the LA Raiders, though. Freudian slip, perhaps.
Pointed out they went undefeated in division and have a nucleus of good young talent. Bruschi even agreed with him.
Just thought I’d throw that out there.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Your welcome.
I think a slight portion of some of the Jamarcus hatred may have toed the line, but Soup just doesn’t inspire anyone.
How many fans do you see wear Campbell jerseys?
I owned a Jamarcus jersey.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
He reminds some of us of JaMarcus too much at times. Hence the Ja…..
On another note, my buddy’s house is in Litchfield Park and the Dodgers just built a practice stadium there. Pretty cool. I’m a casual A’s fan so spring training 2012 is going to be pretty cool. I heard the Phoenix Open is a must see event too. Supposedly all the hot chicks in town are there to party up that tourney.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
Sounds like Monta may go for 40+ tonight.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
Monta is on fire. Jeremy Lin is taking a roster spot. What happened to Ace Law?
February 9th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
Doesn’t mean I’m going to accept him as starting QB, the Raids and Raider fans deserve better.
JaJason sucks.
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who beat San Diego dingleberry?
“please keep feet either on or off while the vehicle is in motion”
-Bandwagon Authority
February 9th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
JFB, I give you a hard time, sometimes, but, I do respect your opinion.
I factor in your partisanship, nobody’s perfect.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Question, is JaJason, JaPanic etc, the race card, or is it just me?
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Its Ja-nonsense, Ja-ridiculous, and Ja-fraud Raider fan rhetoric…
February 9th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
# Just Fire Baby Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
100 QB rating in 4th quarter.
84 in total.
So on a weighted average he would be at around 73 (give or take a few points) for quarters 1-3.
73 QB rating = bottom of the league
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undefeated in the AFC West.that too, is a meaningless statistic, beat the no. 1 rated defense, San Diego
another meaningless statistic…
see how that works…?
February 9th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
I don’t think JC sucks. I think you can win with him, and I hope he gets better in his second season in Oakland. Hopefully, being the unquestioned starter will cause his confidence to grow and let him “turn it loose” more often.
That is the one reservation I have about JC, though. And it’s a big one. Not sure if it’s entirely fair.
It seemed JC played alot better after Grads went down, and he didn’t have to look over his shoulder any more. I’d like to believe in the old sports axioms like competition bringing out the best in people. Iron sharpening iron as Mike Tomlin puts it.
If Bruce Gradkowski breathing down his neck causes him to wilt under pressure, then can he really be trusted with all the chips on the table in a big game situation? I don’t know.
It’s a perception I have and can’t shake. I hope I’m wrong. Maybe that’s where Al’s Plunkett reference comes from. Like Jim, he’s been beaten down and his confidence shot. Hopefully he can rebuild his career in Oakland like El Jefe did. I’m pulling for the guy.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
according to nfl.com were gonna franchise zach miller.(jason la canfora)
February 9th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
484.aig-raiders Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
Sup Dirty.
Did you catch the morning crew’s conversation today? Funny stuff man and scroll up if you havent read it.
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Was uppppp. No I didn’t but I will now.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
The thing that makes me most nervous about Oakland this year is what will happen in free agency. We were 8-8 last year, winning some games in which we played poorly, losing some games we easily could’ve won.
With status quo, player-wise, Things could go well. Jackson would be better than Cable as far as gameplanning goes, and giving a more advanced system. I think we will lose a lot of the FAs. All I know is that the schedule will be tougher, and JC will have to play better against pressure–it’s pretty much a given that he is starting. All this is obvious, I just wanted to talk Raiders on my firs post in forever.
My real question is to Buckeye Raider—
Who will by the Reds leadoff hitter? Should be Lewis, but if that flops (like WillieT, Patterson) who goes there? Who will be 5th starter? Wood looked more consistant than Leake last year, and Leake has the bat to make him a good bullpen guy. Will the left side of the infield really survive with Janish/Renteria and Rolen/Cairo (Though Janish will always be solid in the field)? Who makes 25 man: Heisey or Hermida? Wouldn’t it be nice to have Francisco around for our olda$$ 3Bs? Other than those questions, I’m also excited about Reds Spring Training and potential for the year.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Herchel Walker is a freak of nature.
He been doing 1000 sit ups and 1000 push ups every night since he was in high school.
Started this routine during tv comercials while watching some judge show…Peoples court maybe?
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Al Saunders park like 5 miles away from the facility and jogs to work at like 6AM. And I think he’s 60 something.
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LOL, try that in Oakland.
February 9th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
327.r8eray Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Looking at some individual stats (in their category) on NFL.com. Darren McFadden came in @ 6th overall (missing 2 games), Zach Miller (missing 1 game) @ 10th, Jano @ 1st and Raiders Defense @ 7th…not bad!
Hopefully next year we could get our QB and WR’s in the top 10!
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We are close. If our QB and WR’s were in the top 16 we would be contenders. But with JC we are pretenders.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
I need to join the morning crew that convo was hilarious.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Damn Bro. That’s alot to throw at my slightly inebriated brain at 10 til midnight. lol.
I don’t know who’s going to bat leadoff. Seems like they have a neverending search for a leadoff hitter.
They need a quality platoon for Rolen at 3rd. I though his veteran leadership was invaluable to that young team last year. But with his age and back he faded badly down the stretch and in the playoffs.
Saw where they lost Sir Arthur Lee Rhodes. That kinda sucks. That guy was money outta the pen.
Love their young pitching and can’t wait for beisball seaon.
I have three lil girls. They all play softball/t-ball. We signed em up for lil Reds Rooters. Went to five games last year. The 3 of em in the van singing “take me out to the ball game” on the way to GABP was a blast. Hope to do it again this year.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
G’night fellas.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
When an Aaron Rodgers-caliber QB is available to the Raiders, then there will be a point to this discussion.
Until then? All the Raiders can do is continue to put more talent around Campbell and hope his play improves.
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Exactly. There is no point to argue about the Raiders being able to get an elite type of QB. There are NONE out there to be had.
Until the Raiders get lucky by drafting one or finding a actual FA who would be considerably better than JC….there is no point in wasting time arguing about it. The team just has to continue to add talent and depth on defense and on the O-Line. Hope to get a TRUE #1 WR and a backup TE for Miller.
February 9th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Word, trading down could help. I’m just going off the picks the Raiders currently have.
Although do they still owe draft picks for the Groves or Wimbley trades? I’m trying to find the Raiders’ draft order online and I can’t seem to track down anything
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How about the Raiders go with bloodline legacy picks with their 1st two picks by going with:
RD 1- Wisnewski C
RD 2- Matthews LB
That seeing those guys be the first two pick for the Raiders on draft day would be get me pumped!
February 9th, 2011 at 10:18 pm
I don’t get all the hate on Jason Campbell.
Remember where he’s coming from:
In 4 years starting in Washington, Campbell had to learn 2 completely different offensive systems, while playing under 4 different play-callers (the vertical “Coryell” based offense used by Joe Gibbs and Al Saunders and then the “West Coast” offense ran by Jim Zorn and Sherman Lewis).
If you go even further back, he had four offensive coordinators in four years at Auburn.
It would be hard for any QB to survive so many changes, let alone post decent numbers, as Campbell has done so far.
- Now with Hue Jackson as HC and play-caller and a familiar face in Al Saunders as OC, Campbell will finally have the chance to build on something.
A 6-4 record as starter while learning yet another new offensive system is a decent start, specially with such an inexperienced WR unit and an OL that was up and down most of the year.
Look, I don’t know if he can become a top notch QB in this league…but I do know he deserves a chance to prove himself.
Let’s just wait and see what he can do in year 2 under Hue and hopefully, with some better WR play and pass-protection.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
541.DKnight007 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Word, trading down could help. I’m just going off the picks the Raiders currently have.
Although do they still owe draft picks for the Groves or Wimbley trades? I’m trying to find the Raiders’ draft order online and I can’t seem to track down anything
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How about the Raiders go with bloodline legacy picks with their 1st two picks by going with:
RD 1- Wisnewski C
RD 2- Matthews LB
That seeing those guys be the first two pick for the Raiders on draft day would be get me pumped!
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We don’t have a 1st rnd pick. But yes, this would be good. I would perfer Wiz, and the next best OL over Mathews.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Buck just my opinion but what you saw from Campbell was his reaction to his coaches preferential treament toward a certain QB over him. If the competition was fair and unbiased he would blow the little hero away. He saw how much they wanted Grads to play well and critizied him. It even started to split the lockeroom from what I heard.
It also took Campbell longer to get in some kind of rythum with thet team due to the yoyoing once he did you saw what he could do.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
Marley it’s really simple you have a segment in here who are born and bread haters and then you have those who just love the “little hero”. One guy swore that Campbell would prove that he was a fraud and until this very day he has not admitted that the fraud is actually him.
The Haters are the ones who hate anything and everything that comes from Mr Davis (they don’t know that the entire team comes from him). But they congregate and pat eahc other on the back as if they know something no one else does. Ya know the young group of know it alls (who quite frankly don’t know squat).
So there the Grads lovers and the Al Davis haters all bunched together in one happy family.
February 9th, 2011 at 11:45 pm
How about the sycophant family of enablers?
February 9th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Get a life KK, like we can enable anyone, seek help!
February 10th, 2011 at 12:33 am
I agree that Campbell seemed to play a lot better without Grads behind him.
What I don’t get is that Campbell was benched after a bad half a couple times – most notably at St. Louis and Pittsburgh. So why wasn’t Gradkowski benched after an ineffective start to the Miami game?
February 10th, 2011 at 2:25 am
Grads should have been benched at the half vs. Mia.
Not only was he playing poorly, it was obvious his shoulder still wasn’t right.
He never should have started that game to begin with.
But it’s revisionist history to even suggest that JaJason didn’t deserve being benched after his start in Tenn and then the first half against the Rams.
He sucked in Tenn (who can forget ‘the slide’, and the kneel ?), and was playing just as poorly against the Rams.
Grads had clearly outplayed him vs. SF in the pre-season. The team appeared energized and was responding better to BG.
What did you expect Cable and Hue to do ?
Stand pat with JaJason and start the season 0-2, losing at home to the team with the worst record in the NFL the previous year ?
You’ve got to be kidding.
The move to bench JaJason and go with Grads was absolutely the right one and paid off with a win.
In fact, JaJason looked so bad and the uplift with Grads was so noticeable that Cable didn’t hesitate to name Grads the starter the rest of the way.
The only reason JaJason got to start again was bcz Grads got injured.
I’ll say it again — if Grads doesn’t have a Matt Stafford shoulder condition and returns to 100% health, he’ll outplay and beat out JaJason again.
Laugh all you want and smugly believe that JaJason is the superior QB.
Make all the ridiculous excuses you can for JaJason now.
He plays better without someone looking over his shoulder.
He hasn’t had any continuity.
Bunch of crap.
Surprised anyone still buys into that nonsense.
Truth is JaJason is a 7 year vet, and admitted he still didn’t have full command of the playbook 4 games into the season.
Do you expect any NFL team not to carry a decent backup QB for fear that the starter can’t perform with someone looking over his shoulder ?
Ludicrous.
Anyone wondering why JaJason was benched after 6 qtrs of play wasn’t paying attention.
And anyone wondering why he got benched yet again must have missed the SF and Pitt games.
Unreal.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:07 am
Rocky Seto set to become the Raiders new Defensive Coordinator in 2011 …
February 10th, 2011 at 4:52 am
I agree that Bruce should have never started the Miami game, but to say we should have benched him at halftime is ridiculous.
At the half, he was 7-10, 113 yards 1 TD, 1 INT, 87 QB rating, his last pass was a 44 yard TD and we were winning at the half.
Maybe they could have pulled him after that INT in the end zone midway through the 3rd quarter, but at the half things were looking good.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:36 am
Bruce Gradkowski wasnt at fault for our loss to Miami, he was a contributor but I wouldnt lay the blame totally at his feet. Our defense could not stop miami on third down. Chad Henne shredded our secondary like wet toilet paper. Our offense as a whole couldnt keep the ball moving, our longest drive of the day was 7 plays. It was a let down by all 53 guys.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:46 am
JFB, those are decent enough stats. Didn’t remember it that way. Thought BG was playing worse than those stats indicate.
Wheels really fell off in the 2nd half though.
That pick in the end zone was ridiculous. BG has Ford streaking up the sideline wide open. Instead of just letting the ball go and showing good timing, BG hesitates and winds up having to make a longer, more difficult throw into a recovered defense.
There were already several throws that day that indicated that BG wasn’t right, but that one really sealed the deal.
You’re right, that would have been the perfect time to pull him.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:51 am
Not sure why Hue called that end zone play for Bruce.
1st and 10, one score game, across mid-field and just had a nice run for a first.
And with Bruce and his below-average deep ball, Hue dials up a long-winding bootleg, with a 5′7 WR trying to beat the cover 2. Would have liked to see a taller WR on that play, maybe could have broken up the pass.
Of course Ford was wide open for a second or two, because the D and Safety knew Bruce didn’t have the arm strength to make it hurt them. Their D knew it, and most of us know it, but Hue apparently didn’t.
Either way, Bruce had TONS of open-field in front of him, he could have just jogged to the sideline for close to another first down, and that’s what he should have done. His inferiority complex of always trying to make a play killed us, and killed the momentum of the game we had at that point.
February 10th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Like I said last night…folks are still in here arguing the JC vs BG thing…let it go! BG is a warrior and has a good heart, but if you’re content with him backing up JC this year…then be it! I’m not! Sure, BG will probably outplay JC again in preseason and maybe into the season…but really really really DO NOT want to see a QB FN carousel again! And I DO NOT back JC! And yes he did play better down the stretch…yes, if he was even half Brady, Manning, Big Ben, etc., we probably would have snuck into the playoffs, but it is what it is!
February 10th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Unfortunately the organization (read: Al Davis) is set on Campbell. I would love to bring in Palmer, but I doubt thats gonna happen. I have a feeling Mike Brown is going to force Carson’s hand and make him retire.
February 10th, 2011 at 6:27 am
ROTATE QB’S.. 1ST HALF-2ND HALF.OR EVEN BY QTR.KEEP OTHER TEAMS DEFENSE CONFUSED.OR THE RAIDER OFFENSE CONFUSED…
February 10th, 2011 at 6:29 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…Good One! unfortunately I think the O will be confused while the D will be laughing!
February 10th, 2011 at 6:32 am
DLF could be on to something.
We were 2-1 in games when we switched QB’s (STL, SD1, Pitt)
February 10th, 2011 at 6:41 am
RAIDER O-LINE IS GOOD FOR 2-4 FALSE STARTS A GFAME ANYHOW,GO AHEAD AND GAME-PLAN AROUND IT.OAKLAND RIIDERS CHANGING QB’S IN THE MIDDLE OF DRIVE’S, LIKE BRINGING IN A GOAL-LINE BACK.
February 10th, 2011 at 6:48 am
You know what? It works in college! Why not?
February 10th, 2011 at 6:54 am
You know what? It works in college! Why not?
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So does the spread offense and the option…
February 10th, 2011 at 6:57 am
GOOD DAY AND GOOD IDEA BCZ24.. WISH-BONE ALL THE WAY..
February 10th, 2011 at 6:59 am
By the way, I like Gradkowski as well, he’s the rare backup QB who can enter the game at any point and not turn it into a disaster, he can even give the team a lift sometimes.
But we do need to find a young 3rd QB with potential who can be developed, it’s pointless to carry a guy like Kyle Boller.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:03 am
Hopefully, Al Saunders will get a chance to work on the WR’s too, maybe Sanjay Lal can learn a thing or two from the guy.
Remember, Saunders coached WR’s for San Diego under Don Coryell, for KC under Marty and for STL under Dick Vermeil, where he won a ring with the “greatest show on turf”.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Who will be our QB coach?
February 10th, 2011 at 7:48 am
550.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 4:07 am
Rocky Seto set to become the Raiders new Defensive Coordinator in 2011 …
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RR you took the words right out of me mouth. lol
Veto Rocky Seto!
February 10th, 2011 at 7:57 am
goo morning nation,
i am a little dense this morning but have to ask,, who is rocky seto????
February 10th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Hey…I’m still scratching my head on that one, so you’re not alone….
February 10th, 2011 at 8:25 am
Here you go…finally had time…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Seto
February 10th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Jason La Canfora of NFL Network has a handy list of players that should get tagged over the next two weeks. Chiefs linebacker Tampa Hali and Raiders tight end Zach Miller are among the two players on the list.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:30 am
thanks hwnrdr, i had no clue!! i was thinking maybe rocky from the movie series, had a good laugh imagining stallone in a raiders helmet–all you would see of him would be his knee pads and cleats.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:32 am
LOL…That would be a funny site to see though! And I’m with you…had no idea who this guy was…how was USC’s Defense 2 years ago?
February 10th, 2011 at 8:34 am
Free agent DT Richard Seymour said late in the season that he “see(s) (him)self retiring as a Raider.”
Citing multiple league sources, the SF Chronicle confirms that Seymour will be franchise tagged sometime before the February 23 deadline. Since Seymour was also tagged last year, his 2011 tender will be worth $14.9 million.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:39 am
don’t want to see it , but it looks like a lock-out is looming..owners don’t want to split revenues 50-50..both sides are greedy and the fans lose the most….
February 10th, 2011 at 8:39 am
I saw that article on PFT and here is what I blogged in that post.
“Seymour will be tagged
People who are not from the Bay Area trying to understand the workings of Al Davis (Gregg Rosenthal) have their heads up their ass or their foot in their mouth.”
February 10th, 2011 at 8:44 am
r8rwill
That is what I have been telling everyone in here.
There might not any pro football next year.
The College games will benifit from this.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:45 am
let me see two years ago at usc would have been pre kiffin, they were probably pretty good.. carrolls o. coord. was/is asian too and pretty darn good.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Seto sounds like a joke by someone.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:56 am
yeah snb666 just when our team looks like we acan do something… yeah the college game will get more attention.. i can’t follow it too closely, too many teams and players to keep track of.. got my locals cal, stanford, fresno st. sc and ucla distant favs along with oregon and o state. it is too much.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:03 am
good mornin r8eray and kk, i agree a joke on us/me. most of the time this is a good place for raider news and thoughts, and sometimes this is the last place to look!!!i am keen on wanting to know who our dc will be if it is not bresnahan,, refresh my memory did bresnahan replace robiskie…
February 10th, 2011 at 9:14 am
maybe not robiskie so who was the dc that bresnahan replaced???
February 10th, 2011 at 9:20 am
let me see two years ago at usc would have been pre kiffin, they were probably pretty good.. carrolls o. coord. was/is asian too and pretty darn good.
Norm Chow. Went to TN Titans after his run at USC. Not sure what he’s doing these days. Think he’s back at a college program.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Buenos dias mi gente.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:26 am
thanx LA, norm chow was considered hc mat’l for a short while.. he didn’t go with carroll to seattle??
February 10th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Norm is out of UCLA and is heading to Utah as O. Coordinator.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:31 am
Oh, ok. Norm is now OC of Utah after 2 years of OC @ UCLA, which came after 2 years with the Titans.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:32 am
yea, what DMAC said…
February 10th, 2011 at 9:32 am
So, um, where’s our DC?
February 10th, 2011 at 9:33 am
And why would Miller get tagged?
He seems like the first guy who would come back.
That guy needs 100 catches.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am
good morning dmac
February 10th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Washington Redskins Outside Linebacker – Rocky McIntosh
Want an indication that the Raiders are going to remain a 4-3 defense with a 4-3 line coach and a 4-3 linebackers coach? Well if they are, this guy could be a Raider in 2011. McIntosh was taken 35th overall in 2006 by Washington. In 2007, McIntosh set career highs in tackles (105), sacks (3), and forced fumbles (3). On December 16, 2007, McIntosh tore both the ACL and MCL ligaments in a 22-10 victory over the New York Giants after bending his knee awkwardly in a pile in the first quarter.
In 2008, after being put on injured reserve the previous season, McIntosh recorded 87 tackles, two sacks, an interception, and two forced fumbles. In 2009, McIntosh finished the season with 94 tackles (64 solo), two interceptions, and two forced fumbles. In 2010, McIntosh, much like teammate Albert Haynesworth, didn’t fit the Redskins new 3-4 defense… go figure.
Minnesota Vikings Outside Linebacker – Chad Greenway
Greenway will be another indication that the Raiders are sticking to the 4-3 scheme. Greenway was a first round pick by the Vikings (17th in 2006) and fits well in the scheme for newly appointed Head Coach Leslie Fraiser. There is no indication that Greenway wants to leave or that the Vikings will let him leave. But hands down money talks; if Al Davis wants him enough, he’ll be an Oakland Raider in 2011.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:37 am
Wassup R8rwill
February 10th, 2011 at 9:39 am
San Diego Chargers Wide Receiver – Vincent Jackson
Call it bittersweet, but there is something about taking a 6′5″ 230-plus pound wide receiver who runs a 4.46 forty in the prime of his career away from a divisional rival like San Diego. Jackson made Philip Rivers look awesome just a couple of years ago. This guy is a freak and Al Davis loves freaks of nature.
Amazingly enough, Jackson hasn’t had a season with more than 68 catches, but he is a nightmare for defenses as a deep threat. Dude averaged 17.2 yards per catch in his five year career with the Dolts. He posted back-to-back 1,000 yard seasons in 2008 and 2009 and went to Hawaii as a Pro Bowler. And then the San Diego Chargers dumped on him. Long story short (basically the same as Mankins), on October 29, 2010, Jackson ended his hold-out and signed a one-year tender for $583,000. The deadline to sign and accrue a full season, so that he would be an unrestricted free agent in 2011, was October 30, 2010. But Jackson didn’t see much field time with the team in 2010 and it’s looking as though his time with the Chargers has ended.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Whats the word on Greg Williams? I think he would be a perfect fit here.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:42 am
oh yeah norm chow was from ucla, my bad..i had him with pete carroll, wow..
some of these pundits who report on dah raidahs, get their info on here, williamson for example.. he hasn’t been to oakland since he played lol..it seems to me miller will be an easy re-sign, i worry more about m. bush..
February 10th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Greg Williams the DC?
February 10th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Yeah
February 10th, 2011 at 9:44 am
oh yeah norm chow was from ucla, my bad..i had him with pete carroll, wow..
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No, you’re right he was.
When USC was making title runs every year in the early 2000s, he ran the O and Pete ran the D.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Thursday’s bargaining sessions between the NFL and NFLPA have been canceled.
Uh oh. The owners and players engaged in “extended” talks Wednesday, but they ended with the sides “$1 billion apart,” according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter. Plenty of future CBA-related sessions are planned, but this is the initial real setback. Hopefully, they don’t become commonplace before March 4.
Source: NFL.com
February 10th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Greg Williams would be great, but I think he is still in NO, no?
February 10th, 2011 at 9:51 am
I thought he got fired.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:52 am
602.DMAC Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 9:51 am
I thought he got fired.
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If he did, I don’t know what we are waiting for. If we gonna keep the base 4-3 he would be a lock. imo
February 10th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Jacksonville JaguarsAfter Joe Gibbs retired, Williams was considered to be the most popular candidate to take over as Head Coach of the Washington Redskins. He interviewed four times with team owner Dan Snyder. However, on January 26, 2008, Williams was fired, along with Assistant Head Coach–Offense Al Saunders.[6] On February 6, 2008, Williams became the new defensive coordinator of the Jacksonville Jaguars. The position was vacated by Mike Smith who was hired to coach the Atlanta Falcons.
[edit] New Orleans SaintsWilliams was hired by the New Orleans Saints on January 15, 2009. Head coach Sean Payton, who was heavily involved in the effort to recruit Williams to the team, raved about Williams “because he was so impressive and prepared” in his interview. In fact, Williams was so impressive that Payton offered and took a voluntary $250,000 cut in salary to help facilitate his signing with the team. He took over a Saints defense ranked 23rd in the NFL in yards allowed and tied for 26th in points allowed in 2008.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Lets go get Eric Barton and Kenyon Coleman back!
February 10th, 2011 at 10:03 am
My bad, I guess he didn’t get fired. He declined to interview for the Ten. HC position a while back.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:08 am
is John St. Clair any good, now?
February 10th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Didn’t Chuckie B replace Willie Shaw?
February 10th, 2011 at 10:09 am
#598 LA, thanx, i wasn’t sure about it, but it seemed to me i remember a rose bowl game with chow in it..
February 10th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Kansas City Chiefs GM Scott Pioli made an appearance on The Border Patrol, a program on Sports Radio 810 this morning and once again demonstrated his keen ability to talk for an extended period of time without saying anything at all.
For the record, I am a Pioli fan. I didn’t like his 2009 but if 2010 was a result of the groundwork laid by the organization in 2009, then I think 2009 was worth it. I don’t like to spend too much time judging Pioli’s methods because I don’t need to. In the end, Pioli will be judged by what the Chiefs do on the football field. If they continue to win, Pioli will be primarily viewed in a favorable light. If the Chiefs start taking step backwards…well, you get it.
I know some of you are bothered by Pioli’s secretive manner. I can understand that. Does the organization need to keep even the smallest things a secret? Do they really get a huge advantage over their opponents by shrouding themselves in mystery?
I don’t know. I really don’t know how much it helps or how much of it is really necessary. I mean I cover this team. More information from the Chiefs would make my job easier and possibly more fun at times. That being said, I’m also a fan and what I really care about is what the Chiefs do on the field. Trust me, nothing would make my job easier or more fun than deep playoff run topped with a trip to the Super Bowl.
That being said, Pioli gave a rare “interview” today and I managed to catch most of it.
After the jump, I’ve got a few quotes from KC’s GM.
On how far the team has to go to reach the level of the Packers and Steelers:
We had an improved season but there is still al long way to go for this football team.
Depending on which part you look at, I’d say that we’re a good ways from those teams.
On the depth the Packers have:
Their first line players are very good but when they have injuries and or problems with their roster, their depth is enough to sustain any problems that they have.
On his philosophy on defense:
Defense wins championships. Offense just tells you by how much.
Pioli was pretty vague when asked about the contracts of Dwayne Bowe and Tamba Hali. He said he didn’t want to get into it as it is a personal matter for both players but he did say that the organization likes having both players and that they will continue to take steps to get things worked out. He also mentioned that there are plenty of other players (no one specific) that the team needs to work out deals with.
On the CBA:
It’s business as usual until we find out what the deal is.
Basically Pioli said everyone is in the same boat, meaning all 32 teams. He said the organization is approaching things as they normally would while obviously paying attention to the fact that the situation could change very quickly if a deal is not worked out by March 4th.
On the progress of Matt Cassel:
His performance improved. He was very well coached by the staff and he improved. He also had players around him that improved.
We see the needle heading in the right direction with Matt.
I have great confidence in the coaching staff. It’s never about one person.
Diplomatic answer from Pioli. He said Cassel is certainly improving but also credits the players around Cassel for aiding in that development. He also eluded to the fact that it is a team effort and that it wasn;t necessarily just one person (Charlie Weis) who helped improve Cassel’s play.
On offensive coordinator issues:
People speculating on the relationships of other people…I think it’s generally unfair unless people know the facts.
Coaches coach and GM’s manage the organization.
More diplomacy. Seriously, Pioli could probably run for president or he could at least get a job working for the CIA. He basically said that the speculation about Haley being difficult to work for is all BS because those doing the speculating don’t really know what they’re talking about. He has a point there but that doesn’t change the fact that unless he tells people what is really going on, they are going to speculate until the cows come home. If Pioli is going to be so secretive then he is going to have to deal with the fact that people are going to try to figure out what is going on and that those theories may sometimes be off the mark or be negative.
The second quote above was part of Pioli’s vague response to a question about coaches calling their own offensive plays. He didn’t really get much more in depth than that.
On the draft:
We’re looking for everything and anything that makes this football team better. If we lock ourselves into one position you might miss out on a great opportunity. We will draft with a combination of need and best player available.
Well there you have it Addicts. What do you think, did Pioli say anything that even gives you the slightest clue as to what the Chiefs will do this offseason. Let’s speculate!
You’ll be able to hear Pioli’s full interview in podcast form at 810 Sports later today.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:14 am
you are probably right about willie shaw…
February 10th, 2011 at 10:15 am
There is no denying that Joseph Barksdale (Link) is one of the best pure talents in this year’s NFL draft. Barksdale projects as a RT or even a serviceable LT. He has the measurables that the Oakland Raiders love because at 6′5 – 336 pounds he has been clocked at under 5.0 in the 40 and some say that he ran a 4.86.
The reason that some see him slipping to the 2nd round has more to do with his work ethic and motor questions. He hasn’t shown the killer instinct that many look for in a First Round O-Line candidate.
I know what some of you are thinking, “The last Unmotivated 300 pounder that we selected from LSU is still spending Al’s money and didn’t perform anywhere near expectations”.
In my opinion, Joseph Barksdale would be a fantastic pick in the 2nd Round, at this point. He is first round talent with a couple of question marks, which make him a viable option in the middle of the second round.
Follow the jump to read more about Joseph:
I have not heard anyone mention this, yet, but, Joseph graduated High School early and joined LSU after being named a High School All-American. Sometimes the more intelligent players in College are accused of not having a high enough motor and that may be the case with Barksdale.
CBS currently has him listed as the #9 OT prospect and they have him going in the third round. I am going out on a limb here and saying that he will impress at the Combine and be one of the Top rated O-Linemen available when the Raiders select.
A Five Star recruit coming out of High School, I think there is more to Barksdale than many scouts are seeing at this point and we all know that if we can get a 10 year starter on the O-line in this year’s draft, we will be heading in the right direction.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:16 am
DMAC Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Whats the word on Greg Williams? I think he would be a perfect fit here.
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Gregg Williams turned down Tennessee for their HC job, he doesnt want to leave NO and Payton. He isnt going to come here for a lateral move, and NO wouldnt allow him to interview for a lateral move either.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Mayock roasted Barksdale during the Senior Bowl game.
He said he maybe had the most to gain or lose during the week, and seemed disinterested in the first two days of practice and than said Barksdale announced he had a hamstring injury and didn’t practice or play anymore.
I remember Mayock saying himself and the scouts kind of questioned the extent of the injury.
I’ll pass.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:27 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
February 10th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Although being the huge THE WIRE
February 10th, 2011 at 10:29 am
490.KoolKell Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:33 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Who knows, maybe Al can trade his 2012 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round draft picks to take Andrew Luck #1 overall.
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Then we can all watch this incompetent franchise ruin him as well.
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Sadly that is our conundrum.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:29 am
To clarify my last post:
1.) I don’t blame Gradkowski for the Miami loss. The Raiders’ running game had stalled completely and the secondary had an awful game. But Grads was obviously injured and his play didn’t help.
2.) Campbell definitely deserved to get benched in St. Louis.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:30 am
oops….
Although being the huge THE WIRE fan that I am, it would be pretty cool to get a player named Barksdale on the team.
Trade Condo for McNulty and Bunk!!!
February 10th, 2011 at 10:31 am
Bruce was awful in the second half of the Miami game.
Things weren’t so bad in the first half, he had a TD pass and we were winning.
His career might have died an agonizing death in that second half.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:32 am
I know we have plenty of smallish receivers, but what are your thoughts on Santana Moss?
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/24157/santana-moss-could-make-sense-in-oakland
February 10th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Can Santana Moss block??
Seems that’s what earns playing time in Oakland for WR’s.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:40 am
How early did Barksdale graduate from HS?
He is a 22 year old college senior, which is the normal age.
Maybe graduating HS at 18 is early for Detroit.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:41 am
lakers at celts tonite, oh boy!! playoff caliber game.. ought to be a good one…pitchers and catchers report this coming week,,that ought to be good too, otherwise it’s college basketball,,zzzzzzzzzzz lol
February 10th, 2011 at 10:46 am
I’ll be watching the DUBS go against the Suns 2night.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:48 am
I always hated the Suns and Nash.
Way overrated. Guys who get lit up defensively should never be considered for MVP.
You can be an average defender as an MVP, but not an awful one.
Go Dubs!!!
February 10th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Warriors just traded Biedrins and Udoh to Denver for Nene Hilario.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Yeah right
February 10th, 2011 at 10:51 am
I cant believe schit you say Dakota.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Udoh is awesome.
Finally a guy who takes pride in defense, and understands how to play it.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:54 am
lol
February 10th, 2011 at 10:54 am
Just needs to rebound much, much better.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:55 am
That would be a nice deal though. Nene is a above average solid big man.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:58 am
If they threw in Aflalo I would do it.
To much upside in Udoh, and Nene makes a ton of money.
February 10th, 2011 at 11:05 am
542.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
541.DKnight007 Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 9th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
Word, trading down could help. I’m just going off the picks the Raiders currently have.
Although do they still owe draft picks for the Groves or Wimbley trades? I’m trying to find the Raiders’ draft order online and I can’t seem to track down anything
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How about the Raiders go with bloodline legacy picks with their 1st two picks by going with:
RD 1- Wisnewski C
RD 2- Matthews LB
That seeing those guys be the first two pick for the Raiders on draft day would be get me pumped!
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We don’t have a 1st rnd pick. But yes, this would be good. I would perfer Wiz, and the next best OL over Mathews.
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Yes I know we don’t have a 1st rounder. It was one of the many typos in that post. haha
Raider Mock 3.0
Rd 2- S Wisnewski C, Penn St
Rd 3- C Matthews LB, Oregon
Rd 4- M Gilbert OG/OT, Florida
Rd 5- C Thornton DE/DT, Southern Arkansas
Rd 6- K Reuland TE, Stanford
Rd 7- C Harris CB, Kansas or Byron Maxwell CB, Clemson
February 10th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Though the San Francisco Chronicle has reported that Richard Seymour will be slapped with the franchise tag, NFL Network’s Jason LaCanfora expects the Raiders to use the tag on TE Zach Miller.
The Chronicle and LaCanfora are both citing sources. The Raiders may end up using both the franchise and the transition tag. If they do plan to franchise Miller, there’s a good chance they will lock up Seymour to a long-term deal. Miller, the most valuable member of the Oakland passing game, just turned 25 years old after four years in the NFL. It would be far less expensive to franchise a tight end than a defensive end.
Related: Richard Seymour
Source: NFL.com
February 10th, 2011 at 11:18 am
It would be far less expensive to franchise a tight end than a defensive end.
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Isn’t Seymour a DT now?
not sure what the TE tag is worth, but I know the DT tag is close to $7 million and the DE tag is close to $12 million
February 10th, 2011 at 11:20 am
lakers at celts tonite, oh boy!! playoff caliber game.. ought to be a good one
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will,
are you ready for the Lakers to get smashed again?
February 10th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Zmiller tagged would make $5.9 million next year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_tag
February 10th, 2011 at 11:29 am
it would cost $2.8 million to place the franchise tag on Janikowski or Lechler, but they’re both under contract …
I wonder what the price is for a long snapper?
TAG CONDO !!!
February 10th, 2011 at 11:49 am
The fans should be allowed to slap franchise tags. Raider fans should be allowed franchise tags for coaches. Gruden stays in 02, Raiders win 4th Super Bowl. Al would be thanking us.
February 10th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Why would we have to franchise a restricted FA?
I think that would be pretty dumb.
February 10th, 2011 at 11:49 am
And if they don’t Rockstar?
February 10th, 2011 at 11:52 am
I think that would be pretty dumb.
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NFL Network’s Jason LaCanfora & his “sources” are dumb then, unless they’re right!
February 10th, 2011 at 11:53 am
J Hill Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Why would we have to franchise a restricted FA?
I think that would be pretty dumb.
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I don’t understand the use of the tag anyway. Wouldn’t 3/4 void the whole thing?
February 10th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Jason LaCanfora was wrong about Joe Cullen being a DC candidate.
he could be wrong about Zmiller, too.
February 10th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Why sign anyone when their deal would expire/void in less than a month anyway. And the terms may change come a new CBA.
February 10th, 2011 at 11:54 am
DeMaurice Smith is a good American. We may not have football next year, but it’s for a good cause.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
LA,
Teams can actually sign their own FAs now. The owners are essentially coluding(sp) in hopes that the new CBA is more favorable to them.
Seymour could be signed to a 3 year contract today. Just don’t know how his numbers would impact a salary cap.
If it were up to me, I’d take a run at Huff and Seymour now. They might bite knowing they might now get that much cheese after the new agreement.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Sorry, but I’m not paying Zack Miller 5 million a year.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
If someone would actually throw to Zack 75+ times, he would show you why he’s worth it.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
DeMaurice Smith will get paid in a lockout while the people he represents won’t.
Bogus.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Ok, thanks for the explanation.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
648.J Hill Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
LA,
Teams can actually sign their own FAs now. The owners are essentially coluding(sp) in hopes that the new CBA is more favorable to them.
Seymour could be signed to a 3 year contract today. Just don’t know how his numbers would impact a salary cap.
If it were up to me, I’d take a run at Huff and Seymour now. They might bite knowing they might now get that much cheese after the new agreement.
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Agreed.
The Raiders need to resign Seymour and Huff NOW…and then they can Franchise Z. Miller and then Transition either Wimbley, Gallery, or Bush.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Not sure why any team would do anything prior to a CBA.
You could put a transistion tag on a player, than they take away transition tags altogether.
No sense tipping your hand if you don’t have to.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
649.J Hill Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Sorry, but I’m not paying Zack Miller 5 million a year.
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Ahh…but are you okay with wasting a crap load of money on DHB??
February 10th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
I think it’s AMAZING that these folks can’t get together and figure out how to chop up 9 BILLION dollars.
Unreal!
Players asking for half is UNREAL!
60-40 to the owners, and lets get on with this!
Or 5 billion to the owners and 4 billion to the players.
BILLIONS???!!!!???!!!
LMFAO!
February 10th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
What makes you think I am ok with paying DHB what he’s making?
Thank goodness for the new rookiw salary scale.
But I’m not paying Miller, a TE who can’t block, coming off arguably his worst season with all the drops, 5 million a year.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
JFB,
I wouldn’t call it tipping my hand. I’d just probably make a run at the guys I thought I might lose.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Owners are the ones risking their money, they should get at least 60%.
When the Jamarcus Russell’s of the world just get high on the company dollar, screw up said company for a few years, and effect their profits, while his salary is all but guaranteed for awhile, there is something terribly wrong with that.
The players want 50% of the profits? Fine, play for one year non-guaranteed deals every year.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I wouldn’t call it tipping my hand.
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Sure it is.
You slap a tag on a guy, and now he expects that in salary if those tags are removed in the CBA.
You going to tell Zack, “Hey I know we transitioned you at $5 million a year in Feb, but we don’t have to do that anymore, so how does $3.5 sound?”
That isn’t going to go over well, and just creates un-needed drama.
Do what you do best Al, take forever (or until after March) to do anything.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
The players won’t be getting paid by the owners. DeMaruice Smith and the union, on the other hand, will give the players the shirts off their back if necessary.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
JHill, you’re just too big a fan of guys who sit in luxurious offices and sip cognac while other people work. The owners thank you, though.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Owners are risking money that they have loads more of, players are risking lifetime paralysis every time they step onto the field.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
The players have been taking 50% for years and the owners want them to take, what — 18% less AND tack on 2 games while growing the sport, getting record numbers each year?
February 10th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Oh, yeah, those poor owners, LA to the Bay. Whoa is them.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
How many ex-players are paralyzed for life?
I haven’t heard of many, only the guy Tatum drilled and that Dennis Byrd guy.
Not a bad risk for retiring with a pension at 32 years old.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Goodel’s a joke and the perfect schmuck for the owners. Guy wants an NFL franchise in London.
West Coast teams have issues playing in Florida and they’re talking f*cking ENGLAND? LOL.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Oh, yeah, football’s no more dangerous than golf, JFB.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
JFB, the reason why many high school basketball players, baseball players, etc. opt not to play football is because it’s too dangerous.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
MR, I’m for players.
At least let them maintain the 50-50. Make them take less AND add two games AND make them travel the globe on short rest and they claim to care about player safety? Owners are trying to grow the sport at the expense of the players.
Football is by far the more popular sport, but contracts aren’t guaranteed and baseball players make 3-4 times more. Why? Less risk of injury and more games.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
LA, I’m for players and owners. Owners win no matter what.
February 10th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
No matter what the owners will be paid fat… Lets just get this thing over with so we can go into the offseason like usual… There arguing about billions when there’s 10.3 million borderline starving children in the U.S.A…
February 10th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
It’s weird how so many sports fans side with the owners in labor disputes. The owners get most of their dollar. And what do they get in return? Even higher prices at the stadium, which the players see very little of on the dollar. Sort of a masochist thing at work between sports owners and their consumers. Bizarre. Some people just need to be abused.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
The owners can end this any time they want to, Purple, and get things back to normal. DeMaurice can’t afford to budge, because too much is at stake on his side. The owners can, however. And, indeed, it is a shame that their greed makes them so reluctant to do so.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
PD81,
I agree, but at the same time, if you want the madness to stop, you have to stop watching and supporting the business.
It’s gotten to this level because of corporate greed and a very, very succesful, popular product.
When TV first came into your average household, a third of the country was tuned in, with only 3 or 4 channels. Now, decades later with 2000 channels, a third of the country still tunes into the Super Bowl and advertisers pay how much for 30 seconds?
We’re all guilty.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Oh I know the owners can end it and I do believe the Greed is ridiculous I dont side with the owners at all but something needs to be done…Like I said no matter what the Owners will be paid fat.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
I agree, MR.
If De caves, he’s the guy that allowed players to take 18% less, play an extra two games, two of which will probably be in Europe.
Whereas his predecessor is the guy that pulled off the great deal the owners were scared of.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Like Tupac has rapped about before…
You got money for wars but can’t feed the poor…
Unfortunately greed is just as big a disease as obseity in America! If not bigger…
February 10th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
LOL as Raiders fan we dont get watch the games anyway
February 10th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
When you just say that “something needs to be done”, it implies that both the owners and players are at fault, and that’s absurd. The players’ union can not budge. The owners can. They owners are 100% at fault right now. It’s not a two way street, it’s not a case of two sides that can’t come to agreement. It’s a case of owners being greedy, period.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
It’s like seeing someone stabbing another person on a street in broad daylight, and saying that the two of them need to come to some sort of agreement, something needs to be done. Uh, yeah. The guy with the knife needs to stop stabbing the other guy.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Im always gonna ask what did the other guy do to deserve to get stabbed LOL
February 10th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Well I meant something needs to be done as in The owners need to give them what they want.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Im always gonna ask what did the other guy do to deserve to get stabbed LOL
………..
It’s because you’re preconditioned to protect abusers.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RMR are you related to Sigmund Freud??????
February 10th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
It’s weird how so many sports fans side with the owners in labor disputes. The owners get most of their dollar. And what do they get in return? Even higher prices at the stadium, which the players see very little of on the dollar. Sort of a masochist thing at work between sports owners and their consumers. Bizarre. Some people just need to be abused.
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not just weird but tragic in a way. People want to believe that they are the proxy team owners and that the players work for us. Its why when the first pick of the draft signs his contract this board will light up with people saying that he is overpaid and spoiled and never earned a dime of his contract. But when a executive earns millions a year no one will say a word about it. You will hear people say that those Captains of Industry earned billions for their company. Total BS. Which job is harder NFL player who will most likely only have about a four or five year career and spend his later years dealing with multiple health problems or this guy —
Mr. Maffei, the leader of Liberty Media Corp., enjoyed total direct pre-tax compensation of $87.1 million LAST YEAR, four times his 2008 package and enough to land him atop the rankings in The Wall Street Journal’s latest CEO pay survey, which includes all 456 of the biggest U.S. public companies.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
PurpleDrank81 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RMR are you related to Sigmund Freud??????
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He’s actually the love child of Che Guevera and Rosie O’Donnell.
February 10th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Sorry but I would rather see rich owners than the spoiled athelets we now have playing the games getting more money.
Lets face it these guys get millions to play a game and they are still greedy wanting more money.
Owners being greedy is understandable as goes the corporate world.
thats like me saying to my boss you make more than me I want a raise!
February 10th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
thats like me saying to my boss you make more than me I want a raise!
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I appreciate your opinion of diva athletes, but really the current situation is like your boss going to you and saying
“The contract you have right now is too good, so I’m opting out. You should take an 18% decrease in salary. Oh, and by the way, we want you to work 6 days a week, one of them in Toledo.”
February 10th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
The Redskins have reportedly already “reached out” to free agent DL Shaun Rogers.
Per Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer, Rogers is expected to visit the Redskins this week, perhaps as soon as Friday. With Albert Haynesworth as good as gone this offseason, Rogers would be a replacement at nose tackle. Rogers can still get after quarterbacks, but he’s no longer a top-notch run stuffer
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For those of you interested in signing dragon breath
February 10th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
LA to TheBay
That is pretty far fetched how did you dream that up?
Were you on acid?
“Unless the union offered to take 50 cents on the dollar of every dollar and said that it was a bottom-line position with no room to move, the league should have acknowledged that 50 cents on the dollar of every dollar is a reasonable opening position, and the league should have digested the offer and responded.”
PFT
February 10th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
The problem is that we the fans are getting screwed in this ongoing battle between owners and players….meanwhile the prices for tickets are going up and up and up…
February 10th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Penn St’s Stefen Wisniewski was previously Mayock’s No. 2 interior OL. He’s now fallen out of Mayock’s top-5 completely.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Silver-and-black666 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
The problem is that we the fans are getting screwed in this ongoing battle between owners and players….meanwhile the prices for tickets are going up and up and up…
Yup! What about US????
February 10th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Stefen Wisniewski has trouble with powerful D-Linemen and the system he gets drafted into is going to have to be a ZBS
February 10th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Perfect…unless we totally ditch that ZBS!
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