Davis likely watching negotiations from afar
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, February 10th, 2011 at 2:10 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Negotiations have broken down between the NFLPA and ownership with reported differences of opinion on how much rookies should be paid in the event of a wage scale as well as the basic matter of who gets what with regard to the revenue split.
The last time things were this contentious, a strike was averted in March of 2006 in part because Al Davis took a leading role along with commissioner Paul Tagliabue and executive director Gene Upshaw. When the deal was consummated, both Tagliabue and Upshaw publicly credited Davis for helping to avert a work stoppage.
Two years later, the owners elected to opt out of the agreement _ something either side could have done. The vote was unanimous, meaning even Davis voted to opt out of the agreement he helped put together.
At the Jan. 18 press conference announcing the hiring of Hue Jackson, Davis was willing to give his opinion on almost everything except the possibility of a work stoppage.
“I just would like to stay out of it at this time,” Davis said. “We have a management council that’s working on it, the commissioner is heading it up with (NFL executive vice president) Jeffrey Pash and we’ll see where we get. No one has asked me to come forward.”
Thirty-owners voted for the last agreement, with Cincinnati and Buffalo abstaining.
Davis has always been considered a player’s owner, and it’s conceivable his fellow owners feel he would be willing to give too much away. He conceded his voice may not be what it once was, especially with Upshaw having passed away five months after the agreement.
“I don’t have Gene Upshaw, he’s my captain for 15 years and I drafted him No. 1 when everyone said we were crazy,” Davis said.
Besides determining the split between players and owners, the division of money with regard to profit sharing is huge for the Raiders, as is a provision which would set aside money to assist in the building of new stadiums.
In previous years, when I’ve asked Davis about the team’s ability to compete relative to its comparatively meager revenue stream, he flatly rejected any suggestion that it had an effect. His tone changed this year.
“The last few years, we don’t have the resources that other teams have,” Davis said. “I think we have shown we can compete, but it’s a question of winning and what happens with the collective bargaining agreement”
Davis reaffirmed his belief that the current site, is best for a new stadium, applied my estimate of 22,000 season ticket holders and said, `if they can’t get it done, you’re going to have to use other avenues . . . if we’re going to compete, we’re going to need a new stadium and we’re going to fight to get one. We want the fans out there, you’ve got to support us, you’ve got to help us. Someone said 22,000 fans. We’re at the low end and we’ve got to do better. That’s just the facts.”
FRANCHISE PERIOD UNDERWAY
Teams can begin designating franchise players today, and according to story rounding up likely candidates by the NFL Network’s Jason LaCanfora, the league sources said Zach Miller would likely be tagged by the Raiders.
Miller is worth keeping around, given his status as the club’s leading receiver in each of the last four years and status as a Pro Bowler, but to do that would mean leaving Richard Seymour free to go in the absence of a long-term contract.
Seymour was franchised last season at approximately $12.4 million and would receive a 20 percent increase if franchised again, or just under $15 million. Given the way Davis and Hue Jackson have talked up Seymour this offseason, and the fact that Oakland shipped its first-round draft pick this April (No. 17 overall) to New England to get him, I still think Seymour is more likely to receive the franchise tag.
It’s worth noting the NFLPA is questioning whether the league can even franchise players in the event of a lockout, and that any player who is franchised could be susceptible to an entirely different set of rules once a CBA is reached.
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February 10th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Long live Al Davis!
February 10th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Just when we start to gain some positive momentum as a team, a lockout looms…
February 10th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
3rd
February 10th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
The vote was unanimous, meaning even Davis voted to opt out of the agreement he helped put together.
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LOL…..classic
February 10th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
I’ll bet if All showed up at the negotiations with his projector, both sides would cave.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
This is the only chance for quite some time that the current NFL players and former players will be able to fight for what they want and the injustices they have had to deal with.
I hope they finally unite and stay together and hold out as long as possible. I see the lockout lasting until late August or mid September.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
RMR are you related to Sigmund Freud??????
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I wish. I’m not that smart.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
He’s actually the love child of Che Guevera and Rosie O’Donnell.
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LOL. What would be wrong with that?
February 10th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
5.oldschoolraider Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
I’ll bet if All showed up at the negotiations with his projector, both sides would cave.
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I bet if he walked in the door, them Jokers would sit up straight! AND if Upshaw was here they would stand up and salute!
February 10th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
Silver-and-black666 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Sorry but I would rather see rich owners than the spoiled athelets we now have playing the games getting more money.
Lets face it these guys get millions to play a game and they are still greedy wanting more money.
Owners being greedy is understandable as goes the corporate world.
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you’re preconditioned to protect your abusers. Unfortunately there’s a lot of people like you. And, I don’t have to be Sigmund Freud to see it.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
6.DKnight007 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
This is the only chance for quite some time that the current NFL players and former players will be able to fight for what they want and the injustices they have had to deal with.
I hope they finally unite and stay together and hold out as long as possible. I see the lockout lasting until late August or mid September.
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I see the holdup lasting tell Al Davis rolls his bent fingers down to the barginin table and lays down the law!
February 10th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
# Silver-and-black666 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
The problem is that we the fans are getting screwed in this ongoing battle between owners and players….meanwhile the prices for tickets are going up and up and up…
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That’s exactly what I’m talking about. You have your head buried so far up your ass, you can’t even see when the owners are clearly the culprits. Who could you possibly blame for ticket prices going up? The players nor the union set the ticket prices. The players really don’t even take that much from the gate, most of their money comes from revenues the league generates through advertising.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Al Davis is full of it. Ron Wolf drafted Upshaw. Davis was with the AFL.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
only jerry can twist it to make al look bad. The fact is Al saved football before and can do it again…he is just watching and waiting.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Silver-and-black666 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
LA to TheBay
That is pretty far fetched how did you dream that up?
Were you on acid?
“Unless the union offered to take 50 cents on the dollar of every dollar and said that it was a bottom-line position with no room to move, the league should have acknowledged that 50 cents on the dollar of every dollar is a reasonable opening position, and the league should have digested the offer and responded.”
PFT
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Um, were you quoting this article:
League should be blamed for breakdown in labor talks
February 10th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Al Davis didn’t save football. He guilt tripped Gene Upshaw into selling out. Would you look at the NFL today compared to the NFL of the past and say that the league has been “saved”? LOL. Oh, I shouldn’t ask that. Aaron Rodgers just won the Super Bowl. As far as some of you are concerned, this was the greatest NFL season in history!
February 10th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Apparently, the meeting — which lasted far less than the expected nine hours — got off to a bad start when the NFL’s negotiating team supposedly interpreted the players’ proposal of 49-to-51 cents on the dollar as being the cut of “total football revenue,” not “all revenue.”
Currently, the players get 59.6 cents of each dollar of ‘total football revenue,” a number that is roughly $1 billion less than all revenue generated by the sport.
The league’s misinterpretation of the proposal is a bit surprising, since a 50-50 split of total football revenue would have reflected the much-debated 18 percent reduction that the owners’ reportedly have asked the players to take. Then again, the union’s decision to propose essentially a 50-50 sharing of all revenue is equally surprising, given that the players currently get roughly that amount under the current deal.
According to NFLPA spokesman George Atallah, the players received 51.87 percent of all revenue in 2002. In 2003, it dropped to 50.23 percent. In 2004, it was 52.18 percent. In 2005, 50.52 percent. In 2006, it was 52.74 percent. In 2008, it was 50.96 percent. In 2007, it was 51.84 percent. In 2008, it was 50.96 percent. In 2009, it was 50.06 percent.
Thus, an offer to take 50 cents of every dollar represents no concession at all.
That said, we think it was unreasonable for the league stormed out.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Al Davis didn’t save football, but he helped put it on life support for a few years.
The deal he and Upshaw brokered is unanimously (even by Davis, lol) viewed as a victory for the players and the owners are now opting out.
The league wants the players to take less and play more. it’s that simple.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
He’s actually the love child of Che Guevera and Rosie O’Donnell.
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LOL. What would be wrong with that?
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Nothing. Both were/are champions for the people in one regard or another. Stubborn, outspoken.
Tough time getting chicks, though. Let’s hope you take after your dad, LOL.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
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February 10th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Al will save the day again….
February 10th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Al Davis guilt tripped Gene Upshaw into doing something very bad, that’s what happened. If you want to look at today’s NFL and call it “saved”, you have to like Aaron Rodgers A LOT. He’s a good kid. But a large price is being paid for the complacency of the past few years.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
LA to the Bay, I can only assume you’re just a maven at “getting chicks”.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Screw this politics stuff. I want to get chicks, like LA to the Bay. He gets chicks.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
Basically, for this to get resolved either
A) the owners cave and agree to a similar deal to what was already in place (LOL!)
B) the players cave (possible, but De seems pretty dead set)
c) they agree to a similar revenue-sharing deal, with players taking slightly less and play 18 games.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
he did what he had to do, knowing that he and the owners could opt out if needed. Kinda like aso’s contract…its simple people, really.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I have one chick and I’m set.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
LA To TheBay = former ‘maven,’ now a married stiff.
I don’t have the fanny pack, baseball cap, short-shorts and cell phone clip but I do have to attend birthday parties for birds I don’t care for and I occasionally have to watch Phineas and Ferb or Batman.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Then why would you even value the concept of getting “chicks”, as in plural? Clearly you know nothing about getting chicks. You only have one. You got a “chick”, as in singular. Getting a chick, and getting chick(s), are two different things.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Nope, LA. Sorry. Players are players for life, a man is as faithful as his options. Fact.
February 10th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
In other words, you’ve got one chick, because that’s all you can get.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Women need a reson to cheat….Men just need a place!!!
LOL
February 10th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Women need a reason to cheat….Men just need a place!!!
LOL
February 10th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
I bet if he walked in the door, them Jokers would sit up straight! AND if Upshaw was here they would stand up and salute!
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If AD walked in, it would be like a miracle at a religious revival. Al would be wheeled in or it would take him 5 minutes to get through the door with his walker.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
So if Al isn’t going to these meetings, it would seem that Amy Trask would be there representing the Raiders.
I wonder how the good ‘ol boys like having a chick at the bargaining table?
February 10th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
That’s not true either. An attractive woman doesn’t need any more reason to cheat than a man does. The more dominant you are, the more you exercise your options, man or woman. A lot of attractive women get broken down by men, make themselves ugly by eating, gaining weight, etc. That’s why men break them down. A man only wants his wife to be beautiful at the wedding. After that, he wants her fat and at home. That why she can’t leave him. Women are starting to buck back, though. Look around you.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
A man only wants his wife to be beautiful at the wedding. After that, he wants her fat and at home
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Uhhh…..negative.
I want her at home in the kitchen, but if she told me the baked ziti and breadsticks are for me, and the salad was for her, I would not object.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
In other words, you’ve got one chick, because that’s all you can get.
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Unless you got one that keeps things interesting.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Ooooh, some Ziti sounds good.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
LA to the Bay, there is nothing more interesting to a man than sex, and that’s even for blog losers like me. I don’t care if your wife’s so interesting she can fart fire, you’re with her because you have no other option.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
So if Al isn’t going to these meetings, it would seem that Amy Trask would be there representing the Raiders.
I wonder how the good ‘ol boys like having a chick at the bargaining table?
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Especially when they were choking on the smoke from Amy burning her bra.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
For more on sex being more interesting to man than anything, including football, even the Super Bowl, see: Janet Jackson Super Bowl incident.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Janet’s boob was exposed, that was the story Monday morning. Go ahead and try to think for a second who actually played in that Super Bowl.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
LA to the Bay, there is nothing more interesting to a man than sex, and that’s even for blog losers like me. I don’t care if your wife’s so interesting she can fart fire, you’re with her because you have no other option.
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Maybe I’m with her cause she can fart fire, MR.
And you can’t presume to anything about anyone. Saying I have no other option, or that any man who is married or has a serious girlfriend, because they are either faithful (which every man is not) or doesn’t talk their girl into a menaje (which every man should).
February 10th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
presume to KNOW*
February 10th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
RMR,
Are you telling me that the average married guy is going to put up with those annoying mandatory phone call check-ins, wearing ugly in-law bough sweaters to the in-laws house for the weekly dinner, and doing every sappy holiday, with the great hope that she also gets fat and homely to boot??
That makes ZERO SENSE.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
VR,
MR is obviously not married.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Sure it is.
You slap a tag on a guy, and now he expects that in salary if those tags are removed in the CBA.
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JFB,
I said I would try and sign Huff and Seymour to long term deals now, not use the franchise tag on them.
And I don’t know why you would think the franshise tag would go away. You keep throwing that out there, but I’ll bet you anything that doesn’t happen.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
LA to the Bay, you’re not with her because she can fart fire, or because anything else is interesting about her. You’re with her because you can’t do better. you have no better options.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:18 pm
The controlling, possesive and possibly disturbed would beat their hot wives to keep other dudes off them
The average Joe is begging his wife to put on the heels and that sexy thing he likes her to wear.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
If it makes you feel better about yourself, MR.
I’m not settling for my girl, I’m lucky to have her. And it’s not because she’s the only option, it’s because she’s the best option.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
JFB, I wasn’t talking about guys like you and LAtotheBay when making the point about men making their women fat, I was talking about men who get lots of women, players, so to speak. Men who have options, and that women pursue. Good looking women. And, I was talking about beautiful women overeating and gaining weight, being broken down, not the kind of women you and LAtotheBay are with. Guys who get lots of women want to get married, have kids. Family tradition. But they don’t want their woman leaving them, so they break them down. Break their self esteem down. That’s why you see so many women who were once hot gaining weight and falling apart. It’s above your guys’ level. Has nothing to do with your guys’ situation. you and LAtotheBay are spectators taking what you can get.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
So “league sources” said that Seymour would get the tag, then (other?) “league sources” say that Miller gets the tag.
IMO, the only way Seymour isn’t the tag recipient is if he is signed to a long term deal.
An optimist might think that the rumors about tagging Miller mean that Oakland is nearing a deal with Seymour.
And RMR, you are wrong about Davis and Upshaw. Davis resigns as AFL commisioner in July of 1966, bought into the Raiders later that year, and drafted Upshaw in March of 67.
Not that anyone really expects you to stick to the facts in your anti-Davis rants anymore . . .
February 10th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
“I don’t have Gene Upshaw, he’s my captain for 15 years and I drafted him No. 1 when everyone said we were crazy,” Davis said.
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Petty old fool.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
LAtotheBay, exactly my point. The average Joes. That’s what you and JFB are. I was talking about guys who get lots of women. You know who they are. And you know you’re not one of them. You never were, either. Sure, you got lucky when you were younger. Who doesn’t? you were young. You looked healthier. you’re simply more attractive to women when younger. It’s not rocket science. But unless you were on your best game, you were generally unwanted by women. If that wasn’t the case, you’d still be hooking up with women on the side now. There’s some exceptions but typically there’s been some type of intervention in their lives, drug rehab, religious transformation, etc. That’s not the case with you, is it? You’re just a regular guy who got lucky a couple of times and although you may not realize it, your woman chose you. Hey, you were the one who brought up “getting chicks”. I’m just wondering why you’d bring that up when it’s obvious you know nothing about it
February 10th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Haters gotta troll.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
No, MR, you’re talking about guys who are insecure and violent.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Is that what your perception of a player is?
I don’t claim to be a player, former or otherwise. Anything I said to you was just me BSing (IE the love child of Che Guevara and Rosie O’Donnell having a tough time getting chicks).
You took it to a strange new level, which is actually rather typical.
The biggest players I knew got with EVERYTHING. For every smokin’ hot broad they got with, there were 4 average chicks, 3 ugly ones and one that belonged at the zoo.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Ziti!
February 10th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
LA to the Bay, no doubt a lot of men who get lots of women can be insecure and violent, but many aren’t. Hugh Hefner isn’t violent. Although he is insecure. What’s so wrong with being insecure? You’re insecure about the Raiders. You’re insecure about your reputation on a blog right now, which is why you’re fighting with me. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being insecure. We’re born insecure. It’s part of the human condition.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Lol
MR talking chicks and marriage….while he, the virg1n, sits in his mom’s basement playing on his mom’s computer waiting for her to kick the bucket so he can drop the minimum wage night shift job at Carl’s Jr. and live in his newly inherited manufactured home and the $10,000 life insurance policy for the next year or two.
Too funny.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
I got married for better or for worse.
I couldn’t do any better…she couldn’t do any worse!!
February 10th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Wrong, Dakota. LAtotheBay is talking about chicks and marriage, I’m responding to him. Scroll up and review the thread. And, what, a virgin who works at Carl’s Jr. and lives with his mom can’t have an opinion? And just how much further up the pecking order are you than such a guy?
February 10th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Dakota, show me a picture of your wife and I’ll bet you I’d rather be a virgin living at home than having to see her face every morning.
February 10th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
MR, I’m not sure what sort of reputaion I have here and not sure that I care, although I am pretty sure it’s not one of Mack Daddy Playah.
I’m argumentative by nature and so are you, which is why we’re ‘fighting.’
I notice anytime women or relationships are brought up, you make strange presumptions and outrageous theoreies which makes me think you just need one.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
# 01rdrfan Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
I got married for better or for worse.
I couldn’t do any better…she couldn’t do any worse!!
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Someone who gets it ^^^. Unfortunately JFB and LAtotheBay have a hard time having such a sense of humor about their dilemma. They like to think that they *could* get lots of women if they wanted to. LOL.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Dakota’s wife is a hottie. The end.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
LAtotheBay, you’re not a mack daddy playa. You’re not a ladies man. You’re not a “stud”. you’re not a pimp. You’re not the man. Put it in whatever vernacular you like, you’re not it.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
MR you freaking retard
Free agency and bloated player salaries have increased the ticket prices.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
I’ll believe it when I see it, RaiderDogg. I’m going to say it right now. There’s not one person in here who’s married to, in a relationship with, or even sleeping with a “hottie”. I can’t picture any guy I know who gets hotties being on a blog like this. They think I’m nuts for spending this much time online. They’ll check their facebook, use the web to get info that pertains to their life, whatever. But not this. This is nerd city, and that goes for ALL of us.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
SnB666, another person in here today who has no clue. But in his case, it’s his admiration for rich NFL owners that clouds his judgment. If he researched NFL revenues, he’d know that the players salaries increased with league advertising revenues. What owners take in at the gate typically goes right to their pockets, with a small chunk going to business cost outside of payroll.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RMR
Tendencies are fair, but absolutes in relation to human behavior, is crazy.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Just call it as I see it, Kell. We can split hairs all we want over the scientific value of my opinions. If I see a hundred sheep going in one direction, I see a pattern.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Just call it as I see it, Kell. We can split hairs all we want over the scientific value of my opinions.
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You couch your opinions as facts, though.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
MR
My wife is a smokin hottie with long, beautiful hair, tig old bitties and she’s little in the middle but she got much back to quote an old friend of yours.
I know this to be true because every where we go someone decides to hit on her, even with the big old rock on her finger.
Do I get mad? Hell no, my wife and I are tight and I know that she is going home with me. It may be enough to make some men insecure but I know better. She’s been down with me since day 1, thick and thin sh1t! A regular rags to riches tale.
Never assume anything bro. Dakota’s wife is indeed a hottie. I know this to be true…
February 10th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
LOL, MR, I just said that. I never claimed to be, not seriously anyway. Back in the day, sure, but nowadays, I’m comfortable being a married stiff.
You should try it. Get out of the closet, um basement, um, house more.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
MR
When the 49ers were on top they were opertaing in the red. They would win the Super Bowl but Eddie D would show a 20M loss.
If you want more jamacus Russell’s in the NFL then keep on thinking that way.
Over paid garbage!
February 10th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
KoolKell’s wife is a hottie too
February 10th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Thanks Dogg, she is though.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RaiderDogg, if your wife is hot, I guarantee you she’s cheating on you. I was also going to say, if any of you do have a hot girlfriend or wife, I guarantee you she’s cheating.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Women cheat, like white people and the Patriots, as Eric Cartman would say. Beautiful women are not monogamous creatures. That’s why so many men in relationships with them try to break them down, turn them into housewives. Because they know what will happen if they don’t.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
The discrepancy between the league’s and the union’s view of the size of the slice of the pie that the players collectively receive isn’t the only issue on which the NFL and the NFLPA disagree. The two sides also disagree on the rookie wage scale.
Or, as the union now calls it, the “veteran wage scale.”
Liz Mullen of SportsBusiness Journal reported earlier today that NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith explained in a memo to certain players that the rookie wage scale proposed by management would affect players with three to five years of experience, or as Smith put it “the core of our membership.”
The league proposed a system including five-year deals for first-round picks and four-year contracts for players drafted in all other rounds; the union wants maximum deals of four years in rounds one through three and three years in rounds four through seven
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/10/league-union-sharply-disagree-on-rookie-wage-scale-too/
February 10th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
MR
Hate to burst you bubble but my wife isn’t cheating on me. Is it impossible for someone to have looks and a soul? Not every hot woman is just looking to get on with the next dude. My woman has class and together we have trust. She has stood by me through so much when most women would have bounced. I would be a damn fool to ever cheat on her! Men are not monogamous by nature either, regardless of their looks, but I don’t cheat either.
Now if she met some dude that she liked more than me, she would be the type of person to tell me, dump me and then move on. If that happens in the future then it sucks to be me. I imagine it helps that I have money enough to take care of her and our family, but that wasn’t always the case.
Believe it or not some people have very successful relationships, regardless of how they look or what society dictates as a “pattern”. It’s called love and it is a very real thing. I know that sounds cheesy but it’s true.
Sounds to me that you just haven’t met the right woman yet.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
So is it going to be Winston or Darren?
February 10th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
They think I’m nuts for spending this much time online. They’ll check their facebook, use the web to get info that pertains to their life, whatever. But not this. This is nerd city, and that goes for ALL of us
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No they don’t. They don’t know you. If they did, they would just ask for their #5 and drink.
Because work is over and I’m leaving now, I’ll be accused of bailing, but we can always resume this, well really any time of the day or night, since you’re always available here.
Most of us blog from work cause we’re bored, rather than this being some sort of religion. That doesn’t make us your constituents as the mayor of Nerd City.
You fancy yourself as some sort of purveryor of truth. You’re not. You don’t enlighten people, you insult them. You don’t do it for the benefit of society, you do it cause you’re a pr;ck.
If Al Davis runs the Raiders, and has for 40 years, he is the Raiders, but according to you he’s not (until he drafts Russell, then his name is forever tied to Russell’s).
If another guy gets a girl, you tell him it’s because he has no other options. You clown on average Joes and glorify ‘players’ when you’re neither.
You spend hours a day giving Jerry web hits and claim to be some sort of proletariat who hates Al, but attends Raider games?
Face it MR, you’re a Sadist and a narcissist. And a dueche.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Chuck B will be the DC.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
MR
Hate to burst you bubble but my wife isn’t cheating on me.
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 10th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
LAtotheBay, you want to talk about possessive guys, here’s a guy who KNOWS his hot wife doesn’t cheat on him. Now how would he know this if he didn’t violate her privacy and/or outright threaten to hurt her if she cheated? Tell me how he could be so certain that his wife doesn’t cheat without violating her in some way?
February 10th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
LAtotheBay closes by trying to convince me one last time that he’s one of the studs of the world, who only married by choice, not by resort. You know, Mr. Secure.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
I know because I trust her. Pretty simple really.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Chuck B will be the DC.
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By default because no one else will work for as cheap?
February 10th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Raiderdogg loves goverment mule so his wife will never leave him!
February 10th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Not only the low wages, but coming in on a existing staff, and lack of the opportunity to be creative.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RaiderDogg, every single guy who’s ever been cheated on unknowingly “trusted” his wife. Trust is not assurance. If trust were a sure way to determine something, then the concept of violating one’s trust wouldn’t exist now, would it? Either you don’t know if your wife is cheating on you (if she’s hot, she is, and you can trust me on that…), or you “know” for a fact she’s not cheating on you because you have her chained to your kitchen floor like Black Snake Moan.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
MR
You caught me bro, I am on some straight up Black Snake Moan sh!t!
SNB666 is right too!
February 10th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Not only the low wages, but coming in on a existing staff, and lack of the opportunity to be creative.
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Also Chuck B will be happy to just have a job in the NFL again. Personally I hope it is going to be someone else, but you are probably right.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
RaiderDogg,
there is never any reason to explain anything to RealKiffinRaiderTroll. It does what it does, that one, and instead of espousing its righteousness and hating all things Raider it would be in the tentcamps in Haiti fighting against the gang rapes of women housed in those facilities.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I think if the Raiders were interviewing, we would have heard something.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RaiderDogg, if you’re telling the truth about your wife being hot, other guys hitting on her, etc., you’d better brace yourself for her having an affair. Because she either is, or will.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
MLonetree, you can review the thread and see that I didn’t start this conversation. LAtotheBay implied that certain politics can prevent you from “getting chicks”. I’ve just been trying to find out every since how he would know. So far I’ve come up with nothing.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Yikes
RMR is sharing today…some startling admissions regarding his personnel life.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
I’ve shared nothing about myself today. We’re really discussing LAtotheBay and RaiderDogg, they are the ones who are sharing. And my are they both lost.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
@KoolKell
Do you think Moss or Perry really want to start the interview process right after the Super Bowl?
Don’t you think they want to chill out for awhile?
February 10th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
78.RaiderDogg Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
KoolKell’s wife is a hottie too
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Nice. Good for you KK.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Dutch, coaches on SB teams take jobs immediately after winning the Super Bowl all of the time. Looks like you’re already shifting to denial mode on Moss and Perry.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Who thinks Davis will fire Chuck Brushhog when we get a real DC?
February 10th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Winston Moss wants to take some time to chill out. LOL. Yeah. He’s set for life as an assistant at Green Bay. No way he’d sacrifice his post SB r&r to entertain some silly defensive coordinator opening in the National Football League. If Moss hasn’t picked up the phone yet, he’s not going to. It’s because he doesn’t want to work for Al.
February 10th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
@KoolKell
Do you think Moss or Perry really want to start the interview process right after the Super Bowl?
Don’t you think they want to chill out for awhile?
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Maybe, but why did Davis hire Chuck B?
February 10th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
If I were Moss or Perry, I’d wait for other opportunities. They’re sure to come.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
id be willing to franchise miller, and sign nnamdi to a long term, 6-7 year deal at around 11-12 mil a year. id rather let seymour go, because it seems like we have a nice young crop of DLine men to step in (shaugnessy, houston, bryant) a resurgant tommy kelly, and maybe bring back john henderson. raiders could even possibly score a DL in the draft which should be especially deep this year given its the last year to make a big payday.
id much rather have nnamdi on the team than seymour. JMHO
February 10th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
Davis is the DC, period. So, it’s not really a Coordinator’s job that they are offering.
What would you call it?
February 10th, 2011 at 5:08 pm
RealKiffinRaiderTroll,
your paltry and time-worn self-justifications resemble all of the “they had it coming” self-serving sound-bites/policies that ever were. Congratulate yourself, you are anonymous among a multitude of useless acts.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
MR
I have been lost a few times but today I AM FOUND! Hallelujah!
February 10th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
M
I hope that things are well for you my friend. Many blessings coming your way my good man!
February 10th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
KK,
you wanna be the DC? You could tell ‘em that you’ve been to Tanzania and Kobenhamn. And then what?
February 10th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RaiderDogg,
this place descends into one of the Preta Realms time after time. Hungry ghosts wandering and sniping at one another. Walk on and Raider on my friend.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:16 pm
Lonetree, I noticed you didn’t address my point.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
KK,
you hate Al Davis. Your father, the ultimate Raider fan died (RIP in all sincerity). I derive nothing else. A point?
February 10th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Moss publicly campaigned for the Philly DC job, and they went with their OL coach, lol.
Did Moss or Perry get ANY interest from anyone else?
Heck, have the Raiders shown any interest in these guys?
February 10th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
coach davis is one of the five best def coordinators in the game today….
February 10th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Lonetree
Why would I hate Al Davis other than the job he’s doing as Owner/GM?
Speak for your self, ok?
February 10th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Report: Moss Drawing Hard Look From Raiders For D-Coord. Job
Posted By Chuck Carroll On February 8, 2011 – 9:06 pm @ 9:06 pm In Featured,Packers,Raiders | 1 Comment
The Oakland Raiders are believed to be interested in speaking with Green Bay Packers secondary coach Darren Perry regarding their vacant defensive coordinator position. However, he may not be their first choice.
Instead, it could be Perry’s fellow Super Bowl winning colleague that has truly drawn the interest of the Silver and Black.
Winston Moss is believed to be drawing a hard look from head coach Hue Jackson according to Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune.
Although the Arizona Cardinals and Tennessee Titans are also interested in speaking with Moss for the same position, the face that he previously expressed a desire to work for Al Davis may play heavily in Oakland’s favor.
There is no word yet as to whether an interview has occurred or been schedule.
Of course Perry doesn’t appear to be out of the running for the job either. And for that matter Chuck Bresnahan isn’t either.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Well, we should hear something soon, 2-3 days.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Pau Gasoft taking nothing but jumpers, lol!
Where’s Dakota?
February 10th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Man, the Lakers suck.
February 10th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Jim Buss is now running things for the Lakers, apparently.
And he doesn’t want to trade his pet project Bynum for Carmelo.
What a frickin joke!
February 10th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
I’m looking forward to B Shaw coaching next year.
February 10th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Fluke Walton is in????
I guess I can go to bed now.
February 10th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
“I don’t have Gene Upshaw, he’s my captain for 15 years and I drafted him No. 1 when everyone said we were crazy,” Davis said.
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Good grief, does any quote sum up this guy more than this? 81 friggin years old and still defiant, still trying to show the world.
February 10th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Al is the raiders….
February 10th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
can you build a house out of nothing but footballs?
February 10th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Maddenraider.
B.S. Alert!.
As usual, reality and facts are not something Maddenraider considers when speaking about his insane Al Davis obsession.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Al Davis is full of it. Ron Wolf drafted Upshaw. Davis was with the AFL.
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- Luckily for us, the drafting of Gene Upshaw is well documuented by Ron Wolf himself, on an old Sports Illistraded article, enjoy:
“Gene Upshaw came into the NFL through a scam.
And the guy scammed later became one of the most respected personnel men in the league.
But in 1967 Ron Wolf was just a hard-working, 27-year-old super scout for Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders, and as the draft approached he knew he was going to have a war on his hands.
“I wanted Harry Jones, a halfback from Arkansas” said Wolf.
“Al wanted Eugene Upshaw, a guard from Texas A&I”.
We argued right up to the start of the draft, into the first round, actually.
Finally Al threw his hands up and said:
“All right, dammit, you win. Call Harry Jones and alert him. Use the phone in the hall.”
“I went out to the hall phone. We had a radio hookup to draft headquarters in New York that day, with a loud speaker, and I could hear Pete Rozelle announcing the first-round selections.
So I looked up Jones’ number, and while I was dialing, I heard Rozelle on the loud speaker:
In the first round, the Oakland Raiders select Eugene Upshaw, Guard, Texas A&I.
All he did after that was get elected to the Hall of Fame.”
February 10th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Al is right.Upshaw was awesome.He is saying it in his way, but you must see that he is clear.Al Davis will take his chances, but he sees the situation as well as anyone in football.He will ride the wind and pounce, make his moves, when it’s smart to.That “top 10″ pick for Seymour turned into #17,sweet.The coming year will tell us if we whiffed on DHB.We have everyone in our division scared.We are a couple of pieces away from a championship.Still defiant,still trying to show the world.
February 10th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
The thing that worries me about this stoppage wiping out the 2011 season is that the owners stand to make more by not playing since they’d still get paid by the networks and wouldn’t have to dish out$100 million+ in players salaries. The owners may have no interest in reaching ANY agreement this year. They could each be pocketing tens of millions more by tanking the season. That to me will be the driving force behind a stoppage. Don’t get blinded by the idea that this is all about player-owner negotiations. And the networks stand to lose the most.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
the owners stand to make more by not playing since they’d still get paid by the networks and wouldn’t have to dish out$100 million+ in players salaries.
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Chris,
I was reading somewhere that the owners will get the $, but if games are missed it would have to be paid back with interest.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
# olinesux Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Al is the raiders….
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That’s brilliant. Where’d you come up with that?
February 10th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
souldogdave Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Al is right.Upshaw was awesome.He is saying it in his way, but you must see that he is clear.Al Davis will take his chances, but he sees the situation as well as anyone in football.He will ride the wind and pounce, make his moves, when it’s smart to.
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Yes, indeed. The Autumn Wind is a Raider. Gives me goosebumps.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
130.olinesux Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Al is the raiders….
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No, Al IS! the Raiders….
February 10th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Is Raiders the Al? Hmmm.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
People, Gene Upshaw was drafted 44 years ago, ok?
Al Davis is now 81 years old now, and doesn’t know Cam Newton from Kim Newton.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:15 pm
The Raidahs are Al and Al is the Raidahs. That is why Al always wears Silver and Black, or a white jump suit.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Cam Newton works out for media Story Highlights
Cam Newton gave media a glimpse as he prepares for combine
Newton’s working hard on ‘playing quarterback in the NFL’
Newton is working with quarterbacks coach George Whitfeld Jr.
Cam Newton is preparing for the NFL draft after leading Auburn to the national title.
AP
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Enjoying the San Diego sunshine and saying that he’s “shooting for greatness,” Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton gave the media a glimpse of the workouts he’s going through daily as he prepares for the NFL combine and draft.
Wearing gray shorts, a black long-sleeve T-shirt and orange cleats, Newton did agility drills and then threw passes to a handful of receivers for nearly 45 minutes at a suburban high school on Thursday.
Newton has been in San Diego since late January, working six days a week with quarterbacks coach George Whitfield Jr. and receiving advice from Hall of Fame quarterback Warren Moon.
While his passes looked crisp, there’s a lot for Newton to work on. Chief among them is taking snaps from under center. He often took snaps in the shotgun formation as he ran the spread offense at Auburn, which he led to the BCS national title.
He said he’s working on “the whole grand scheme of playing quarterback in the NFL. A lot of times I probably can count on one hand the times I took a snap from under center in one game. But now it depends what scheme you go into, but at the same time you have to be able to get a snap from under center and be fluent at it. That’s one of the first things we tried to tackle.”
Asked if he was surprised some people don’t think his skills won’t translate to the NFL, he replied: “That’s the competitor that I am. I won’t be surprised – I’m making that leap right now – until I’m a Super Bowl champion. That’s what I’m going for from Day One, reaching for greatness. The supporting cast that I have is pushing me to be great, I’m pushing myself to be great and I demand greatness for myself. So coming in the door, working out every single day, I’m shooting for greatness.”
Whitfield said the session was “a snapshot of his training. He’s been working really hard at this. He is an excitable kid. He’s been pumped for this.”
Whitfield worked with Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger during his four-game suspension.
While Whitfield is Newton’s coach, Moon described his role as a mentor
February 10th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Al Davis was talking about Kim Newton the Co Excutive Producer of the T.V. Series Las Vegas and Cold Case
February 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
cam newton has a younger brother Fig who supposed too be better than cam!
February 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
The early bird catches the worm, but look what happens to the early worm.
I’m Al Davis and I approve this message.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
JHill,
If that’s true it obviously changes everything and gives me much, much more hope. Hadn’t heard that part about the payback. Anyone else have any info on that?
February 10th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
al is the raiders came from cali, for sure not ohio….
February 10th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
i thought her name was kim….
February 10th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
I don’t know what to make of Newton. Great athleticism, arm and college production. Saw him make some great throws. Rubs me the wrong way though. Just seems like a cocky prik. And the bust potential is high. Doubt he’ll be there when we pick unless we move up anyway. It’ll be interesting to see who takes him and when.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Richard Seymour expected to stay in Oakland
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 10, 2011, 6:23 PM EST
Richard Seymour came to the Raiders begrudgingly when he was acquired from the Patriots, taking his time to show up in Oakland.
Now he wants to stay for good. (And we don’t blame him, considering his never-ending franchise tag.)
“I see myself retiring as a Raider,” Seymour said late in the 2010 season.
It looks like the Raiders will find a way to keep him. The San Francisco Chronicle reports the team is expected to place the franchise tag on Seymour in the next two weeks. That will cost them $14.9 million on a one-year contract.
The report runs in direct conflict with an NFL Network report that believes Zach Miller will get the tag. We think Seymour will stay put regardless of whether he gets the tag.
The Raiders value Seymour enough to repeatedly give him a 20% raise on his eight figure salary. It’s hard to believe he’d get a better deal elsewhere.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
# confucius400 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
cam newton has a younger brother Fig who supposed too be better than cam!
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His older brother Isaac is such a know-it-all.
Nerd!
February 10th, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Chris in NY Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
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The only info we have is what were told. As the drama unfolds, the nflpa and the nfl could still be negotiating for all we know. And you can bet your last nickel the tv networks are in on the negotiating too, as well as major hotels, bus and car rental companies. I’m sure the Prez has a guy in there too. We don’t need any more unemployment claims in this country. We need the unemployment rate to go down. I’m sure the players as well as all the other millions of people could file for unemployment claims. The nfl is a very integral part of our economic fabric and we need the games to be played. A lot of peoples jobs are at stake, not just the players. Concession workers, sports casters, travel agents, food catering companies, apparell manufacturers, restroom supply companies and many many more, let alone beer sales. The economic impact of a lockout is frightening. A lockout would have economic tremors if not a quake.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Al won’t let a lockout happen. He is such a football guy a lockout can’t be good for him. Al will set them straight and make everybody happy. The games will go on.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Mike Mayock is a wanted man
NBC Sports
I’m not shy in my praise of Mike Mayock as the best draft analyst out there, and it sounds like NFL teams agree with the assessment.
Mayock told Joe Rose on WQAM Thursday (Via Omar Kelly) that he’s had “three or four offers to join NFL front offices” but that “it wasn’t the right time.”
One of those offers may have come from the
Raiders. Mayock was tied to Oakland as a possible successor to Mike
Lombardi three years ago, although the team denied the report.
Mayock went on to say he’d be open to the possibility of joining a team “if the right opportunity came along.”
Selfishly, we hope he sticks with television.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
When the bargaining is complete, Al will be wearing a Silver and Black cape and be standing atop Mt. Diablo in the wind as his cape flaps behind him, looking ever so confident over the east bay. Because Super Al came to the rescue and saved the day.
February 10th, 2011 at 7:56 pm
Cam Newton reminds me of another former player that wore the #2…
February 10th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Al Davis Supremo Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
When the bargaining is complete, Al will be wearing a Silver and Black cape and be standing atop Mt. Diablo in the wind as his cape flaps behind him, looking ever so confident over the east bay. Because Super Al came to the rescue and saved the day.
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Let’s just hope it isn’t as windy as it usually is atop Mt Diablo. Al looks like he could get swept up by a strong gael…
February 10th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
al davis reminds me of a superhero named kicka$$.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Let’s just hope it isn’t as windy as it usually is atop Mt Diablo. Al looks like he could get swept up by a strong gael…
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hererra will be holding him down by grabbing onto his feet.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
Al Davis Supremo Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Let’s just hope it isn’t as windy as it usually is atop Mt Diablo. Al looks like he could get swept up by a strong gael…
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hererra will be holding him down by grabbing onto his feet.
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Sounds about right
February 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
wow.. Lakers pulled out the win.
February 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Raiders 2011 schedule
Home: Denver, Kansas City, San Diego, New England, New York Jets, Chicago, Detroit, AFC North.
Away: Denver, Kansas City, San Diego, Buffalo, Miami, Green Bay, Minnesota, AFC South.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
# Raider75 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
wow.. Lakers pulled out the win.
YUP YUP!!! Where’s Rockstar at? LOL
February 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
162.confucius400 Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
Raiders 2011 schedule
Home: Denver, Kansas City, San Diego, New England, New York Jets, Chicago, Detroit, AFC North.
Away: Denver, Kansas City, San Diego, Buffalo, Miami, Green Bay, Minnesota, AFC South.
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Sacramento Raider Rooters going to Green Bay this year.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
I wonder how many jobs are lossed furing the lockout.
February 10th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
February 10th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Al Davis is full of it. Ron Wolf drafted Upshaw. Davis was with the AFL.
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actually the raiders brought in al davis in 63 and upshaw was drafted in 67.
he did leave to be commissioner but resigned in 66 and became coach again.
also its been written that, With Davis in control the Raiders have become one of the most successful teams in all of professional sports. From 1967 to 1985 the team won 13 division championships, one AFL championship (1967), three Super Bowls ( XI, XV, and XVIII) and made 15 playoff appearances. Though the Raiders’ fortunes have waned in recent years, having gone 24–72 from 2003 to 2008, they are one of two teams to play in the Super Bowl in four different decades, with the othe being the Pittsburgh Steelers. Along with appearing in five Super Bowls, the Raiders have also played in their Conference/League Championship Game in every decade since their inception.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Be careful man. These great ‘fans’ in here don’t want to hear anything about the Raiders having anything to do with anything resembling any semblance of success; past, present, or future.
By the way, anybody who ever gave Al Davis any credit was lying or faking.
When the Raiders lose it is the ‘real’ Raiders showing their true colors.
When the Raiders win, it is an “exhibition” and/or a meaningless game, or they just got very lucky.
Al Davis is solely responsible for any draft choices that don’t pan out, but someone else drafts the players who turn out to be good.
Just wanted to make sure you’re clear on how it works in here.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
140.KoolKell Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
People, Gene Upshaw was drafted 44 years ago, ok?
Al Davis is now 81 years old now, and doesn’t know Cam Newton from Kim Newton.
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Someone made the statement that Al didn’t draft Upshaw. I think it’s fair for people to refute that statement if it was in fact not true.
An 81 yr. old man mispronounced someones name. What a shock.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
ENGLEWOOD, Colo. — The Denver Broncos’ deep wide receiving group is getting thinner by the day.
Demaryius Thomas, who just completed a star-crossed rookie season, tore an Achilles’ tendon during an offseason workout in Atlanta just a week after slot receiver Eddie Royal had hip surgery that could sideline him until the summer.
Thomas, the first receiver selected in last year’s draft, is expected to be out six to eight months.
“I have no doubt that Demaryius will overcome this setback,” Broncos coach John Fox said in a statement. “He’s proven he can handle adversity and will get through this. We look forward to getting Demaryius back on the field as soon as possible.”
Neither Thomas nor his agent, Todd France, responded to messages from The Associated Press.
When Fox was hired last month to oversee the Broncos’ massive makeover, he mentioned the deep receiving group as the primary luxury he was inheriting in Denver.
Fixing the defense remains priority No. 1 in Denver, but the Broncos will have to at least consider taking a wide receiver in the draft, where they have just a half-dozen picks, three of which are in the top 50, including the No. 2 overall selection.
The Broncos are hopeful Royal can return by late May, and Pro Bowler Brandon Lloyd is coming off a big season and is under contract as is Jabar Gaffney and up-and-comer Eric Decker, a third-round draft pick out of Minnesota last year.
Thomas was selected 22nd overall out of Georgia Tech a year ago, three spots ahead of Denver’s other first-round pick, quarterback Tim Tebow.
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Thomas has been dealing with one injury after another since deciding to go pro after three solid seasons at Georgia Tech.
He fractured his left foot in pre-draft workouts and just when he began to show flashes of being able to use his 6-foot-3, 230-pound body and athleticism to present matchup problems and have a big impact, he tore scar tissue in the foot during a training camp scrimmage and was never really the same.
He missed the rest of camp and the opener and although he caught eight passes for 97 yards and a touchdown in his debut against Seattle a week later, he never tallied more than three catches in any other game.
He was knocked out of one game with a concussion while returning a kickoff and was also sidelined for the final five weeks of the season with a sprained ankle.
Thomas played in 10 games, starting twice and finishing with 22 receptions for 283 yards and two scores. He also returned 16 kicks for a 24.9-yard average.
CBS4 in Denver first reported Thomas’ injury on Twitter.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
The San Francisco Chronicle reported on Thursday that Pro Bowl defensive lineman Richard Seymour is expected to receive a franchise player tag from the Oakland Raiders.
Seymour, however, told NFL.com senior writer Steve Wyche on Thursday that he hasn’t been informed that he would be franchised by the Raiders and all reports that he would be are speculation.
After the sides were unable to reach terms on a three-year pact during the last year’s offseason, Seymour, 31, agreed to a one-year, $12.4 million exclusive rights deal. According to the Chronicle, Seymour could be in line for almost $15 million next season if the same scenario plays out.
Seymour helped anchor a young, improving Raiders defense in 2010, and he told the Chronicle at one point late in the season, “I see myself retiring as a Raider.”
The Raiders were 11th in total defense (322.8 yards per game) and 13th in points allowed per game (23.2).
Seymour had 5.5 sacks and 48 total tackles in 13 games, figures that exceeded his 16-game totals from 2009, as the Raiders went 8-8.
February 10th, 2011 at 10:59 pm
2) OG/OT Benjamin Ijalana (Villanova), DT/NT Phil Taylor (Baylor), CB Jimmy Smith (Colorado), or CB Curtis Brown (Texas)
3) C Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU), OLB Casey Matthews (Oregon), OLB Greg Jones (Michigan State), or OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida)
4) DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame) or OG/OT Will Rackley (Lehigh),
5) CB Davon House (New Mexico State), C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock), or OG/OT Darrius Morris (Temple)
6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
7) WR Ricardo Lockette (Ford Valley State) or RB Robert Hughes (Notre Dame)
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Then attempt to bring Miller, Asomugha, Seymour, Wimbley, Huff, Routt, Bush, Reece, Condo and Cartwright all back into the fold.
If Huff walks, sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.
If Bush walks, sign Le’Ron McClain or bring in a rookie.
If Asomugha walks, sign(/trade for?) Jonathan Joseph and/or find a CB via the draft.
If Routt walks, sign Richard Marshall, Eric Wright, or find a CB via the draft.
February 11th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Raider great Mr. Cliff Branch’s first two seasons:
as a rookie 3 rec 41 yards 13.7 ave 2 Fum 0 Tds
2nd year 19 rec 290 yds 15.3 ave 0 fum 0 Tds
His third year look out > 60 rec 1092 yds 18.2 ave with only 1 fumble and 13 tds.
I challenge all Mr. Heyward-Bey Bashers to compare their first two years.
February 11th, 2011 at 12:38 am
Young American… shhhhh!, we dot want other teams knowing about Villanova’s OT, Benjamin Ijalana.
February 11th, 2011 at 12:40 am
I would add Boise St. WR Austin Pettis and/or Florida’s OT, Gilbert in either the 4th or 5th for either one.
Although I think Pettis goes in the late 3rd after we draft Matthews.
February 11th, 2011 at 12:45 am
Ijalana might be a better pick than Wisniewski if the Raiders are moving further away from ZBS…
Pettis would be a solid pick in the 3rd or 4th round, but I don’t know if Al thinks a “possession receiver” is a dire enough need.
February 11th, 2011 at 12:53 am
Veldheer – Ijalana – Kirkpatrick – Campbell – Henderson
Might not be half bad…
February 11th, 2011 at 4:26 am
Lord Davis at the Owners/NFLPA meetings:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p4T7_XI7WM
February 11th, 2011 at 5:23 am
This is probably going to be an unpopular statement, but I think, before it is all said and done, Al Davis is going to be very instramental in getting a new CBA done.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:34 am
*Yawn*
I guess we’ll find out Monday if we have a new DC or Chuck B.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:35 am
Al always seems to have his pressers on Monday. I bet he does it so he can listen to the media talk about his beloved Raiders all week.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:41 am
179.Carl Weathers Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 5:34 am
*Yawn*
I guess we’ll find out Monday if we have a new DC or Chuck B.
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I dunno, has he even officially interviewed Perry or Moss? Or anyone for that matter?
Unless the plan is to just name Chuckie B. the co-ordinator and move on.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:42 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Raider great Mr. Cliff Branch’s first two seasons:
as a rookie 3 rec 41 yards 13.7 ave 2 Fum 0 Tds
2nd year 19 rec 290 yds 15.3 ave 0 fum 0 Tds
His third year look out > 60 rec 1092 yds 18.2 ave with only 1 fumble and 13 tds.
I challenge all Mr. Heyward-Bey Bashers to compare their first two years.
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I’ve been a basher, but I have also said many times the 3rd year is the make or break year for a WR.
Cliff Branch, Roddy White, Marvin Harrison and plenty of others struggled their first two years, but were great in their 3rd.
If DHB is not approaching anything close to great by the end of this year, history says he never will.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:42 am
178.bcz24 Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 5:23 am
This is probably going to be an unpopular statement, but I think, before it is all said and done, Al Davis is going to be very instramental in getting a new CBA done.
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I hope you’re right, man. But I don’t know. Davis’s influence seems to have waned amongst the other owners.
Unfortunately, I’ve read that the influence of other player-friendly owners who’d be more likely to push for a CBA, like Bob Kraft in New England and the Rooneys here in Pittsburgh, has as well.
The extreme anti-NFLPA guys like Jerry Jones, Bob McNair in Houston and whoever the guy is that owns the Carolina Panthers appear to be in the driver’s seat these days.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:44 am
I don’t Al adds anyone to the staff before the March CBA deadline.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:48 am
RaiderRetribution Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 12:36 am
Raider great Mr. Cliff Branch’s first two seasons:
as a rookie 3 rec 41 yards 13.7 ave 2 Fum 0 Tds
2nd year 19 rec 290 yds 15.3 ave 0 fum 0 Tds
His third year look out > 60 rec 1092 yds 18.2 ave with only 1 fumble and 13 tds.
I challenge all Mr. Heyward-Bey Bashers to compare their first two years
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I hate comparisons like these. Branch and Heyward-Bey are two different guys playing in two different eras. The only thing they have in common is speed.
Branch couldn’t catch a cold his first two years. DHB has the same problem. But, Branch was able to use his speed to separate from corners. Once he fixed his hands, he was fine. DHB hasn’t shown “football speed”; that ability to translate straight line speed when wearing a t-shirt and shorts into separation on the football field while wearing pads.
Branch played in an era where defensive backs were much, much slower than they are today.
That, in fact, is an illustration of the problem with the way the Raiders have been constructed the past 8 years. It used to be that speed kills because most guys weren’t terribly fast and speed merchants could destroy the other team whether or not they were great atheletes or had the aforementioned “football speed.” With the athletes that populate the game today, everyone is pretty damn fast and speed no longer kills. It’s just another pard of the game.
Anyway, I digress. Back to DHB: he will fail hopelessly, eternally. He will never, ever be a successful receiver in this league.
Print that. If he breaks out next year for 50 or more catches, I’ll happily eat these words.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:54 am
Good Morning Nation! Nothing new huh? Oh well…Happy Friday!
February 11th, 2011 at 6:06 am
I honestly think it’d be easier to retain Seymour than Miller. I’d use the franchise tag on Miller because 1) it saves money since the average salary of the top 5 best paid tight ends in the league is much less than the top 5 defensive tackles and Al could use the money to sign someone else and 2) it prevents a team with a pass happy offense looking for a tight end receiving threat…say St. Louis now that McDaniels is the OC…from luring him away.
Seymour was still his accustomed dominant self when healthy last year, but he showed alarming signs that his body has started that breakdown that happens to most football players once they hit that 30-33 age range. That might scare most other teams away from offering him top coin, but we know Al will. Something like a 5 year deal with the guaranteed cash packed into the first 3 years (so he can be easily let go if he really starts to decline around 34 or 35) seems about right.
February 11th, 2011 at 6:07 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.
February 11th, 2011 at 6:08 am
Mornin’ to Carl Weathers, JFB, Hwnrdr and Dirt-lot!
February 11th, 2011 at 6:13 am
Morning PA, CW, JFB, Dirt Lot and whoever may creep in here in a bit!
PA, what’s it like in Steeler country now that the Steelers lost the SB?
February 11th, 2011 at 6:16 am
PA, what’s it like in Steeler country now that the Steelers lost the SB?
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Everyone was pretty down for a couple days but seem to have gotten over it now.
I had fun rubbing it in. Everyone always came back with “Yeah, well the Raiders suck.”
My response was “Yes they do, but that doesn’t change the fact that you lost or make it any less hilarious!”
February 11th, 2011 at 6:25 am
SILVERNBLACKPA,WOULD MOST EVERYONE VOTE 4 BIG BEN 4 PRES AROUND THAT AREA,OR WHAT DO THE WOMEN’S GROUPS HAVE 2 SAY..
February 11th, 2011 at 6:27 am
good morning nation,
i was wondering where raiderrockstar is this morning? he must be hiding,,,lol
February 11th, 2011 at 6:28 am
r8rwill Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 6:27 am
good morning nation,
i was wondering where raiderrockstar is this morning? he must be hiding,,,lol
Because teh Lakers won after he predicted a beat down?? HAHA!
Its all good…Rockstar is a good guy!
February 11th, 2011 at 6:38 am
So what’s the news? Has ANYONE came in to interview for the DC position? Or should we just accept Chucky B back as DC?
February 11th, 2011 at 6:45 am
SilverNBlackPA Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 5:41 am
179.Carl Weathers Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 5:34 am
*Yawn*
I guess we’ll find out Monday if we have a new DC or Chuck B.
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I dunno, has he even officially interviewed Perry or Moss? Or anyone for that matter?
Unless the plan is to just name Chuckie B. the co-ordinator and move on.
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I’m just guessing someone comes in over the weekend or Al rekindles the love for Chuck B on St. Valentines day!
February 11th, 2011 at 6:46 am
i know hwnrdr he is i just want to rattle his chain a little…lol
February 11th, 2011 at 6:50 am
You gotta check this out, 2 minute family feud clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQRMvg5TAl8&feature=player_embedded
February 11th, 2011 at 6:53 am
Good morning all.
February 11th, 2011 at 6:54 am
It’s Friday Craig! You ain’t got shlt to do today!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNUjClJked8
February 11th, 2011 at 6:55 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJRMkflcZwU
A good candidate for our new D coach.
February 11th, 2011 at 7:10 am
I thinks it’s going to be Chuck Bresnahan.
I used to hate him with a passion, then we got Rob Ryan and I found myself wishing Chuck was still around.
At least Bresnahan was the first to move Charles Woodson around to take advantage of his play-making skills, instead of just leaving him stationed at his LCB spot.
And, as Dakota once pointed out, our LB’s came up with 15.5 sacks the last year he was around, which bodes well for McClain, Wimbley and Groves.
February 11th, 2011 at 7:12 am
You got a point there Bob! However…too bad Willie Shaw fell into a blackhole…called retirement!
February 11th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Hwndr
Yeah, there’s a lot more to be looked at regarding Bresnahan but I gotta run, see you guys later.
February 11th, 2011 at 7:19 am
Is Charley Sumner still alve?
February 11th, 2011 at 7:20 am
alive….sorry.
February 11th, 2011 at 7:24 am
Good Afternoon Neil…
Charlie Sumner…wow!
February 11th, 2011 at 7:26 am
Get Logan Mankins and watch just how mediocre T-Rex Gallery is !
GO RAIDERS!!!
February 11th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Morning Hwnrdr,how ya doing?
Yeah,figured if we’re going back in time to Chuck might aswell go all the way back and get a D coach with a ring.
February 11th, 2011 at 7:37 am
I know right?
February 11th, 2011 at 7:42 am
Besides,it will give Al someone his own age to chew the fat with.
February 11th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Gotta run.
Have a great Friday everyone.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:26 am
PFT is reporting that the Pats will franchise Mankins.
He isn’t going anywhere.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am
There will be no NFL football next year, I am buying Stanford season tickets now because of this.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:32 am
Not sure the hype with Mankins.
Yes he is a Pro Bowler, but the Patriots and Tom Brady were 9-1 in the playoffs without him, and 2-3 with him.
Certainly not saying that it is Mankins fault for that record, just showing how little value a Pro Bowl guard is in the grand scheme of things.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:33 am
The U.S. Prez is getting props for Speaking to the Arab world in a way to insire them to freedom.
Murbarak steps down!!!!
February 11th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Good Morning Nation!
February 11th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Mubarak steps down!!!!
Really? Because of BO?
February 11th, 2011 at 8:39 am
People weren’t free in Egypt previously??
They didn’t have a democracy, but it’s not like they weren’t given freedoms.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:39 am
BO’s speech in Cairo is credited in inspiring the young in the Arab world.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Non-violent popular uprisings are a powerful thing. Beautiful.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:45 am
eygpt has weapons of mass destruction and we should attack immediately.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Until they elect a terroist group like Palestine did.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:48 am
As long as the new guys don’t mess with Israel, I’m cool with it.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Nope, no anti-1srael rhetoric at all.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am
1ran is next. A large middle-class and tonnes of beautiful women.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:52 am
February 11 1991, Nelson Mandela freed from prison.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Ron Rivera unsure of Steve Smith’s future in Carolina
maybe headed too Oakland .It doesn’t take long to realize that Panthers coach Ron Rivera is very direct. Ask him about wide receiver Steve Smith, and Rivera doesn’t try to skirt around the fact Smith’s future with the team is uncertain.
“We have to go through the process and see how things fit and where he sees it. It’s a touchy thing,” Rivera said about Smith to Joseph Person of he Charlotte Observer. “We’re going to have to wait until everything’s cleared up and see where he is.”
Rivera said he had a “great discussion” with Smith about his future. It has been reported Smith requested a trade during last season and he makes for a logical trade candidate. For now, Rivera is asking a wait and see approach.
“We’ve got to have our minicamp and all that when we get the opportunity and see how he fits with it, and see how it fits him and see if it’s what we need and what we want, and we’ll go from there,” Rivera said. “As far as I’m concerned, he’s a part of what we are right now.”
A prolonged work stoppage would make Smith more likely to stay in Carolina. Veteran trades wouldn’t be allowed leading up the NFL Draft, and an abbreviated free agency period could make it harder to pull off big deals.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:57 am
You guys remember that one song (Egypt,Egypt) from the 80’s…Egyptian lover?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjFs9CPGhts
Brings back some of my old break-dancing moves!
February 11th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Everyone seems “maybe” headed to Oakland.
Al already said he was short on cash in comparision to other teams (and also short on trading chips) and if the new CBA is not as favorable to the owners, Al isn’t going to land anybody on top of our own FA’s.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Walk like an Egyptian??
February 11th, 2011 at 9:00 am
JFB
The people will rise up against the Rebuglian’s here, too.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Sure didn’t seem like it a few months ago.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Now do you see the diff between Dems & Repug’s?
Peace or War.
Prosperity or Recession
It’s just that simple.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:14 am
JFB
I take it, you’re not having any of it, today?
February 11th, 2011 at 9:14 am
LOL
OK.
Both sides care only about what will get them re-elected.
Repubs win the November election, BO extends the Bush cuts soon thereafter (which was a great move on his part, BTW).
It’s just that simple.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:19 am
One stands for the people. The other for Power.
It’s just that simple.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:21 am
You keep believing that fairy tale.
And Al Davis is all about “Just Win Baby” too right?
February 11th, 2011 at 9:23 am
The ole bait & switch.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:24 am
What do you think Beck & co will say about the Caliphate, today?
February 11th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Where’s the rest of the neo-thugs today?
February 11th, 2011 at 9:29 am
We’ll just have to wait and see what entity steps forward and takes power over there. Hopefully the people will choose through elections, but will they choose an anti-isr@el anti-west religious government? Will be interesting to watch.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:31 am
What, 60% of that population is under 30? Same in the rest of the Middle-East.
Nah, these are modern people. Inspired by BO.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:32 am
al davis for president
February 11th, 2011 at 9:32 am
I’m sure Beck will say what he says everyday, the World is coming to an end.
And I’m sure O’Reilly will give credit to BO.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:33 am
AD: Herrera. Everytime I need that ahole.
H: Yes, sir. Mr. Davis.
AD: Do we have any scouts in Egypt?
H: Uh. Uh. I don’t think so.
AD: Get Jackson on the phone and tell him to catch the next flight to Cairo or Liberation Square or whatever the hell its called.
H: What for?
AD: I just a couple of guys on the TV who looked like legit 4.2 forty times. You know how I love speed. They had some good moves dodging bullets and the soldiers. We may be able to sign them on the cheap since I’m low on cash.
H: Jackson called me back. He wants to know if Jet Blue flies to Egypt.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:35 am
So what extremely raw and super-athletic Maryland Terrapin will we draft this year?
Do they have a backup DB who runs a 4.3?? If so, might as well peg him for us in the 5th round.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:40 am
“Do they have a backup DB who runs a 4.3?? If so, might as well peg him for us in the 5th round.”
We could use our second rounder on him to amke sure no one else gets him…….sound fimiliar?
February 11th, 2011 at 9:42 am
We could use our second rounder on him to amke sure no one else gets him…….sound fimiliar?
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Vaguely…….
February 11th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I always liked Mark Buehrle as a pitcher (fastest working pitcher in the league hands down) but I like him even more now.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 9:44 am
I always liked Mark Buehrle as a pitcher (fastest working pitcher in the league hands down) but I like him even more now.
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Not surprised. Although I’ve said the same thing about Vick.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
JFB
#34
February 11th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Don Banks’ take on the Raiders offseason questions:
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Oakland Raiders
Which player holds the key to the success of new head coach Hue Jackson?
That would be starting quarterback Jason Campbell, to no great surprise. Campbell enters the final year of his contract and his future in Oakland is anything but secure. He had his highlights last season with the Raiders, going 7-5 in his 12 starts. But he was also benched and struggled with the same wildly inconsistent play that plagued him at times in Washington. Owner Al Davis remains staunchly in Campbell’s corner, but Jackson actually lobbied ex-Raiders head coach Tom Cable to play backup Bruce Gradkowski last season, so the relationship between Jackson and Campbell bears scrutiny. The hope is that Campbell’s comfort level and familiarity with Oakland receivers produces significant improvement in year two of his Raiders tenure. Jackson said he intends to call the plays, but he hired Al Saunders — who knows Campbell from their days together in Washington — as his offensive coordinator. After last season’s 8-8 record, Davis’s expectation level is clear. It’s a return to the playoffs this year in Oakland, or Campbell will likely be moving on once again. If history holds, his departure will be followed shortly thereafter by Jackson’s.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:49 am
as sure as the sun orbits the earth vince young will be a raider!
February 11th, 2011 at 9:52 am
VY will never be a Raider and I would bet you any amount of money….he does NOT fit the AD QB mold of having deep threat.
Not a strong enough arm for AD!
So how much would you like to bet me Confused400
February 11th, 2011 at 9:53 am
a quarter
February 11th, 2011 at 9:53 am
I wonder how Soup will play in a contract year.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Silver-and-black666 Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 9:52 am
VY will never be a Raider and I would bet you any amount of money….he does NOT fit the AD QB mold of having deep threat.
Not a strong enough arm for AD!
So how much would you like to bet me Confused400
…………….a dime bag……
February 11th, 2011 at 9:57 am
It would have to be a dub…
February 11th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Buenos dias mi gente.
February 11th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Egyptian pot from the time of Rameses II
February 11th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Bast is the Tameran (ancient Egyptian) Goddess of hemp and marijuana.
February 11th, 2011 at 10:07 am
There is good days, and than there is end of the year and quarter commission pay-days.
Off to go stimulate the economy, later fellers!!!!
February 11th, 2011 at 10:09 am
The Ebers Papyrus (ca. 1,550 BC ) from Ancient Egypt describes medical marijuana.[115] Other ancient Egyptian papyri that mention medical marijuana are the Ramesseum III Papyrus (1700 BC), the Berlin Papyrus (1300 BC) and the Chester Beatty Medical Papyrus VI (1300 BC).[116] The ancient Egyptians even used hemp (cannabis) in suppositories for relieving the pain of hemorrhoids.[117] The egyptologist Lise Manniche notes the reference to “plant medical marijuana” in several Egyptian texts, one of which dates back to the eighteenth century BCE[118]
February 11th, 2011 at 10:14 am
But Rameses don’t dance at the party
February 11th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Rumors fly of Brett Favre and Al Davis landing on Dancing with the Stars
We’ve seen it several times over the past few days, and we’re now getting enough e-mails about it to realize that, if we don’t mention it, we’ll continue to get more e-mails about it.
Per various media outlets including USA Today, Brett Favre and Al Davis are rumored to be a candidate for the next season of Dancing with the Stars.
February 11th, 2011 at 10:20 am
The San Francisco Chronicle reported on Thursday that Pro Bowl defensive lineman Richard Seymour is expected to receive a franchise player tag from the Oakland Raiders.
Seymour, however, told NFL.com senior writer Steve Wyche on Thursday that he hasn’t been informed that he would be franchised by the Raiders and all reports that he would be are speculation.
After the sides were unable to reach terms on a three-year pact during the last year’s offseason, Seymour, 31, agreed to a one-year, $12.4 million exclusive rights deal. According to the Chronicle, Seymour could be in line for almost $15 million next season if the same scenario plays out.
Seymour helped anchor a young, improving Raiders defense in 2010, and he told the Chronicle at one point late in the season, “I see myself retiring as a Raider.”
The Raiders were 11th in total defense (322.8 yards per game) and 13th in points allowed per game (23.2).
Seymour had 5.5 sacks and 48 total tackles in 13 games, figures that exceeded his 16-game totals from 2009, as the Raiders went 8-8.
February 11th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Al Davis voted for it……. Before he voted aginst it!!…makes perfect sense for Al …
February 11th, 2011 at 10:58 am
Ironic is that the Shah of Iran fell 32 yrs ago today. Hope BO does not make the mistakes with the military of Egypt that Carter did with Iran. When the army wanted to take over and prevent the Ayatollah from returning, Carter did not want to interfere with the extremists. So they executed the US trained military leaders and the rest is history.
Go Lakers!
February 11th, 2011 at 11:10 am
If Davis doesn’t want to pay nmamdi 16 million in his prime why would he pay an aging injury plagued Seymour 15. I really hope they don’t franchise him again. No way he gets more than 10 mill a year on the open market, fair market value for him is around 8 in my opinion. I’m not debating his value to this team just smart practice, but when have the raiders been smart?
February 11th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Al voted for it to keep football alive. He voted against it because he knows they need a long term deal. I wouldn’t doubt if it came down to it Davis would vote for the same exact deal, he is a guy who only cares about football and not the $. Too bad wanting to win and paying to win doesn’t equal winning look at Al and Dan Snyder
February 11th, 2011 at 11:35 am
It’s about time he hung it up. Sounds like he quit during the middle of last season. Bringing this guy aboard with Hackett to replace Knapp and DiFillipo in 2010 doomed the team to failure. Poor Jamarcus.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/feb/10/longtime-nfl-coach-likely-retiring-after-47-years/
February 11th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Seymour helped anchor a young, improving Raiders defense in 2010, and he told the Chronicle at one point late in the season, “I see myself retiring as a Raider.”
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he’ll sign a long-term deal.
Zach Miller might do the same since he thinks highly of Hue Jackson
tag Jon Condo!
February 11th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Debo,
Hackett & Tollner saved JCamp from BUST status like Kyle Boller … and they kept Bruce Gradkowski in the league (as a #2 even!)
JaWalrus was a hopeless nightmare for ANY coach to take on.
Hue Jackson was hired on 01/26. Russell was dumped on 05/06
February 11th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Poor Jamarcus-what a moron!
February 11th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Santana Moss’ contract voided today, making him eligible for unrestricted free agency once a new CBA is reached.
Unlike the six Browns released this week, Moss does not become a free agent immediately. Oakland has been rumored as a possible landing spot, but the Skins wouldn’t be smart to let their top receiver go if Moss is willing to do a relatively short-term contract, as reported. Moss is said to be seeking “two- or three-year deal” that averages $5 million per season.
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hmmm… don’t know if I would rather him or ocho
February 11th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
The Revolution Will Be Televised!
February 11th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
You will not be able to stay home, brother.
You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out.
You will not be able to lose yourself on skag and skip,
Skip out for beer during commercials,
Because the revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be brought to you by Xerox
In 4 parts without commercial interruptions.
The revolution will not show you pictures of Nixon
blowing a bugle and leading a charge by John
Mitchell, General Abrams and Spiro Agnew to eat
hog maws confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary.
The revolution will not be televised.
The revolution will not be brought to you by the
Schaefer Award Theatre and will not star Natalie
Woods and Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia.
The revolution will not give your mouth sex appeal.
The revolution will not get rid of the nubs.
The revolution will not make you look five pounds
thinner, because the revolution will not be televised, Brother.
February 11th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
most people dont realize what al has done for pro football…they just believe jerry and all the other idiot media people…
February 11th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
There will be no pictures of you and Willie May
pushing that shopping cart down the block on the dead run,
or trying to slide that color television into a stolen ambulance.
NBC will not be able predict the winner at 8:32
or report from 29 districts.
The revolution will not be televised.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
brothers in the instant replay.
There will be no pictures of Whitney Young being
run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process.
There will be no slow motion or still life of Roy
Wilkens strolling through Watts in a Red, Black and
Green liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
For just the proper occasion.
Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Hooterville
Junction will no longer be so damned relevant, and
women will not care if Dick finally gets down with
Jane on Search for Tomorrow because Black people
will be in the street looking for a brighter day.
The revolution will not be televised.
February 11th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Over/Under on how long before UN is asked to send troops to help Egyptian Military quell Muslim violence and uprisings as “new” Egyptian government is formed?
February 11th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Must watch….hilarious!!!
Watch the whole video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJPesST-skg
February 11th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
JaWalrus was a hopeless nightmare for ANY coach to take on.
Hue Jackson was hired on 01/26. Russell was dumped on 05/06
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Yeah, got the memo on that. Still makes no sense to me. He single-handedly beat Denver and looked decent against Baltimore in his last two appearances with us. The worst thing to happen to JR’s career in Oakland was Cable/Hackett/Tollner. He would have gained as much or more from Hue’s hiring as McFadden. Too bad Al didn’t have the patience to see JR through a rough stretch in his life. You know, kind of like Green Bay did with Brett Favre.
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-contra-costa-times-walnut-creek-calif-cam-inman-/2010/05/01/4762867.htm
February 11th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
SeyMour/OakGlen still sucking on JaMarcus with his Debo alias, classic!
KK, still carrying water for pres purp lips!
Great Blog Jerr, oh and nice to see your using confuscious instead of Fatt Kid!
lmao @ this loony bin
February 11th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Congrats to Biekert but shouldn’t the new DC choose his own LB coach?
February 11th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
Ummm…is there a revolution happening in here? How dramatic!
KK the revolutionary. With his red convertible and trips to Switzerland. Changing the world one fondue at a time!
What a crack-up.
February 11th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Saunders is the OC but really H Jackson is running the offense. Jackson said as much himself. So both our OC & DC will just be puppets.
Al is your 2011 DC & H Jack is your 2011 OC.
Only in Oakland this happens!
February 11th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Why do people assume that coaches promoted to DC automatically have the network, or database, of available qualified coaches? Are the new DC’s expected by Owners/GM’s/Head Coaches to just appoint their friends/closest coaching allies to the spot?
In companies large and small, the middle-management is approved by the upper management…and managers most definitely need approval by their bosses for a specific hire.
And…every NFL team has a link to their past (or many) on the payroll. Having a few ex-Raiders players on the coaching staff, especially one as bright as Biekert, is a great move.
I guess hiring Wiz to help coach the O-line was bad move too?
February 11th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
I do thank you, though, KK — listening to a little GSH right now…
February 11th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Hey!!
He visto que alguien habla español, sí es así estaria bien comunicarnos, porque ya me cansé solo de estar leyendo en inglés.
¿O es todo lo que sabes DMAC?
Saludos!!
February 11th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
BUT…what’s wrong with The Beverly Hillbillies?
Jeth-ro Bo-dine is the man! Country strong, like Grady Jackson. Jethro could play DL somewhere — who needs technique? His cousin Jethrine could play OG.
February 11th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
JaWalrus was a hopeless nightmare for ANY coach to take on.
Hue Jackson was hired on 01/26. Russell was dumped on 05/06
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Yeah, got the memo on that. Still makes no sense to me. He single-handedly beat Denver and looked decent against Baltimore in his last two appearances with us. The worst thing to happen to JR’s career in Oakland was Cable/Hackett/Tollner. He would have gained as much or more from Hue’s hiring as McFadden. Too bad Al didn’t have the patience to see JR through a rough stretch in his life. You know, kind of like Green Bay did with Brett Favre.
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-contra-costa-times-walnut-creek-calif-cam-inman-/2010/05/01/4762867.htm
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“He single-handedly beat Denver and looked decent”
Really, think that they will retire his Jersey in Canton for that performance: 5/11 for 47 yards and one TD.
“and looked decent against Baltimore.”
Russell was 9/14 and a INT and a fumble.
Wow these are amazing stats!
February 11th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
“He single-handedly beat Denver and looked decent”
Really, think that they will retire his Jersey in Canton for that performance: 5/11 for 47 yards and one TD.
“and looked decent against Baltimore.”
Russell was 9/14 and a INT and a fumble.
Wow these are amazing stats!
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Stat Geek alert! You obviously didn’t watch either game.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Debo,
Aren’t you the one who always cries that it is a team effort and QB’s don’t win or lose games by themselves (yes you are that person).
So how does Jamarcus “single-handely” beat Denver?? Did he “single-handely” also lose the other 9 games that year? Did Bruce “single-handely” beat Pitt and Cincy?
February 11th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
And Jamarcus looked good for about half of the second half in the Baltimore game.
Than the trainwreck that is Jamarcus took over, with a horribly thrown INT into triple coverage on his side of the field, and than the always-looming fumble sealed the game and his fate as an NFL QB.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Cowboys interview Packers’ receivers coach Jimmy Robinson
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So the Cowboys wasted no time interviewing a Packers’ assistant coach.
What’s up with the Raiders and Moss or Perry?
February 11th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Al Davis is full of it. Ron Wolf drafted Upshaw. Davis was with the AFL.
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Ron Wolf didnt do it without Al Davis’ say so.
Cmon, you know that.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Debo,
Hackett & Tollner saved JCamp from BUST status like Kyle Boller … and they kept Bruce Gradkowski in the league (as a #2 even!)
JaWalrus was a hopeless nightmare for ANY coach to take on.
Hue Jackson was hired on 01/26. Russell was dumped on 05/06
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Only the Redskins worked him out..and that was probably just to spite Al Davis. No one else wanted even a work out….and he wouldnt settle for the UFL or CFL.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
# KoolKell Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
“I don’t have Gene Upshaw, he’s my captain for 15 years and I drafted him No. 1 when everyone said we were crazy,” Davis said.
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Petty old fool.
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Yeah, he only started the bidding war forcing the NFL to merge and creating the most dominant sports league in sports, making the “3 yards and a cloud of dust” NFL into the scoring, deep passing league it would become in later years. He’s clearly lost it now, but he was dominant in his day, hater.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Yeah, he only started the bidding war forcing the NFL to merge and creating the most dominant sports league in sports,
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He was hired by Lamar Hunt of the KC Chiefs, to do so.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
That’s why they call the AFC Title the Lamar Hunt Trophy.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
All you have to do is to wait for it. Sometime as the NFLPA and the League play their rich men-richer men game of chicken you will entertain here posts by KiffinRaider and KK that Al Davis is to blame for whatever transpires.
yep, in here it’s always Ground Hog Day, but unlike Phil Connors they never get it right.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Debo,
Aren’t you the one who always cries that it is a team effort and QB’s don’t win or lose games by themselves (yes you are that person).
So how does Jamarcus “single-handely” beat Denver?? Did he “single-handely” also lose the other 9 games that year? Did Bruce “single-handely” beat Pitt and Cincy?
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Never said Grads didn’t beat Pitt. But he didn’t do shcitt against Cincy. Cincy lost that game plain and simple. And JR gets all the credit for the Denver win. By the time he got into the game, there was ZERO pass pro. Denver was living in the backfield with a four-man rush. To make the crucial plays he made when he made them trancends stats. Off the bench, on the road, with everyone in the world against him. That he came through with the victory says a hell of a lot more about his “competitive fire” than his demeanor on the sideline. Al gave up on him way too early while the likes of Alex Smith get 7th years to get it right.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
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Only the Redskins worked him out..and that was probably just to spite Al Davis. No one else wanted even a work out….and he wouldnt settle for the UFL or CFL.
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Why the hell should he settle for the UFL when he’ll be in an NFL camp this year? And he drew interest from the Vikings, Bengals, Jets and Dolphins. Appearantly, his workout with the Skins was very impressive. Stay tuned.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I’d love to see JaRussell sit behind JaSoup for a couple of years, under Hue Jackson.
February 11th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Tollner discussed working for Raiders owner Al Davis.
“Extremely unique,” Tollner said. “I don’t want to get into this too much. Al is very sensitive to everything, everything. One thing Al knew about me was when he asked me my opinion, he was going to get my opinion, not one I thought he wanted to hear. I’m not into stroking anybody. Don’t stroke somebody to save your job.”
February 11th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I’d love to see JaRussell sit behind JaSoup for a couple of years, under Hue Jackson.
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If JR would have been given the opportunity last year, there’s no doubt in my mind he would have beaten JC out.
February 11th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 10th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
So if Al isn’t going to these meetings, it would seem that Amy Trask would be there representing the Raiders.
I wonder how the good ‘ol boys like having a chick at the bargaining table?
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I hear she can be quite the bi$ch
February 11th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I’d love to see JaRussell sit behind JaSoup for a couple of years, under Hue Jackson.
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that’s why 31 other teams sought out his svcs. Hahaha lol
February 11th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
lol Jamarcus.. Really? yall a trip..
February 11th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
RaiderDebo,
Please… You can’t be serious. Russell had every opportunity in the world and he effed it up royally. To suggest otherwise is simply stupid. He is/was a physical giant but in reality he is a mental midget. You make me laugh…
February 11th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I’d love to see JaRussell sit behind JaSoup for a couple of years, under Hue Jackson.
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I think you underestimate JCampbell significantly. JaLoser will never be a starting NFL QB – EVER!!! He doesn’t have the maturity, self discipline, desire and overall skill set necessary to be a successful NFL QB. JCampbell does have a much better skill set to start with. I’m hoping he will stabilize under HuJack and the same offensive system and start to really show us something. If we can put a decent O-0line in front of him, he’s got a chance to be a very successful QB. He needs more confidence, more demonstrated leadership and the support of the organization to go to the next level. We know he has great play faking ability; better than average mobility, a fairly strong arm and better than adequate intelligence to run this offense. An additional year with the same offensive skill players should produce significant positive results. With JaLoser all you get is a blob with a cannon arm but nothing else. I’ll take JCampbell over JaLoser every time. JaLoser is just a big target to knock on his a$$. He needs to stick with the Madi Gras King ceremonies. There, he can probably excel.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
al davis will save the nfl…again.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
He better. He’s the one who put the NFL together. To many jobs are at stake, not just the players. Al knows better and will do what is right for him, then the rest of the league, and then the rest of the country. Al will go from the nations most disgusting sports figure to the nations most admired sports figure for saving the NFL. You can take that to the bank. As sure as the sun rises from the east, Al will get ‘er done.
February 11th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
All this retro wishing Jamarcus Russell shoulda whatever……….All I know is for all that money he got fron Uncle Al, which was a lot, more than some third world countries GNP, whats the big deal about how he won a game or two. For all that money he got, which was a ton of it, he sure should have won a game or two. Uncle Al paid a very large sum of money, a very large sum of money, to have his qb win a game or two. Uncle Al can do whatever he pleases with his money. It’s his money. He doesn’t tell me how to spend my money, so I won’t tell him how to spend his. If he wants to pay millions and millions and millions to a qb to win a game or two, thats cool.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
305.KoolKell Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I’d love to see JaRussell sit behind JaSoup for a couple of years, under Hue Jackson.
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Care to give a reason why?
February 11th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 11th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
I’d love to see JaRussell sit behind JaSoup for a couple of years, under Hue Jackson.
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Only way Al would consider that is if Jamarcus walked through the door with the check for $9 million dollars Al is suing him for.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Appearantly, his workout with the Skins was very impressive. Stay tuned.
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Obviously no more impressive than Patrick Ramsey’s, who they gave the job too.
Jamarcus will never collect another NFL paycheck.
Al Davis has many allies amongst the owners, and when Al slapped that lawsuit on Jamarcus, that effectively ended any interest most teams had in him.
February 11th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Good Night Raider Nation!!
February 11th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
“I’d love to see JaRussell sit behind JaSoup for a couple years….”-Why not,we need more butts in the seats.I’m sure he could get a ticket behind the bench.
February 11th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
I would like to see Cam Newton be Mr. Jason Campbell’s apprentice.
keep Campbell for two more years, give him one more extension, allow for Newton to develop under Hue & Al [no the other one].
Should Campbell lead us to the Super Bowl give him a big fat contract. If not, then thank him for bringing the Raiders back to respectability providing some dignity and move forward with Cam.
February 11th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
I’d like to see Jamarcus play in the CFL but he’s much too cool for that right?
His tattoo says ‘Chosen One’. Ha. What a joke. Chosen for what?, to be widely acclaimed as the biggest bust in NFL history? Ha.
February 11th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
One of the best things about seeing the Raiders make the playoffs next season (if there is one), will be the explanation of how Ron Wolf was responsible for it.
February 12th, 2011 at 12:05 am
Blaine Gabbert
February 12th, 2011 at 12:07 am
1. Stephen Wisniewski, Penn
1a. Mike Pouncey, Florida
2. Danny Watkins, Baylor
3. Clint Boling, Georgia
4. John Moffitt, Wisconsin
5. Rodney Hudson, Florida State
February 12th, 2011 at 4:28 am
Pitos
February 12th, 2011 at 4:48 am
no luv, what are you doing up this time of night or is it morning where you are??
February 12th, 2011 at 8:00 am
With our schedule, and our record outside the afc west, we are more likely to go 6-10 than 10-6 next year unless we upgrade the most important position. You know that djohnny.
February 12th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Al Davis has many allies amongst the owners, and when Al slapped that lawsuit on Jamarcus, that effectively ended any interest most teams had in him.
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Brilliant! Never thought of it that way but word gets around. Wouldn’t be suprised if Carolina showed some interest tho. They could get him for a lot less than Newton.
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