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Defense taking shape without a DC

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The most telling snippet from Rod Woodson’s interview with the NFL Network Monday came when he talked about potential changes in the Raiders’ defense and how it relates to the pending free agency of cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.

“I think we’re going to do some things this year on the defensive side,” Woodson said. “Some more looks, some more things for the corners to make plays, get the football to face the football hopefully a little bit more so they can be interceptions and be playmakers for this defense.

“If we can do that, and if we can get Nnamdi Asomugha back in Oakland, one of the best corners in the NFL, it makes my job a lot easier.”

So the Raiders are apparently deep into discussing defensive philosophy and options, and currently do not have a defensive coordinator in place.

The knee-jerk reaction is to think the Raiders already have Chuck Bresnahan in place as a “defensive assistant” and that the club’s former coordinator will be become the current one. The fact that his title hasn’t changed is an indiction the Raiders may still be looking.

The stone silence out of Green Bay regarding Winston Moss could mean he is still in play, because there have been no denials of interest or declarations that he’ll stay with the Packers.

If Woodson’s comment is to be taken at face value, a coordinator hired from the outside will be entering a situation where some or much of the defensive philosophy has been decided without him by Al Davis and Hue Jackson.

Jackson insists Davis is letting him make all the decisions, but he also said he consults with him about everything. It’s the job of a defensive coordinator to take direction from his superiors, but usually they’re at least involved when it comes to recommending staff hires and implementing a playbook.

A few more Raiders notes and observations:

— Can Woodson really have an impact with regard to bringing back Asomugha? Some, but realistically, probably not much. It’s going to come down to a competitive offer. If a team with a playoff pedigree blows the Raiders out of the water, Asomugha can’t be expected to turn his back on millions of dollars because of the presence of a first-time assistant coach making a fraction of that. That’s not the way it works in the world of sports economics.

Davis already set the table for Asomugha’s departure on Jan. 18 when talked about using that money to get “two or three” players that could help.

With a competitive offer, then, sure playing for Woodson would be a plus.

— The reason Woodson’s hire has been greeted with universal acceptance throughout the national media is in large part due to the fact that he’s been a class act to deal with throughout his playing career as well as run as a television analyst. If you’ve ever spent 10 minutes around the guy, it’s easy to bet on him succeeding. But he’s never been a coach before and there are times I can remember him rolling his eyes in 2003 at the work habits of some of his teammates.

If Woodson can get those kinds of players to change, terrific. If not, he’ll be no better than anyone else.

— The franchise tags are beginning to pile up _ Michael Vick (Philadelphia), Logan Mankins (New England), Chris Harris (N.Y. Jets) and Vincent Jackson (San Diego). Peyton Manning (Indianapolis) will almost assuredly come soon and the Chiefs are expected to lock up Tamba Hali.

Note: Manning and Baltimore defensive lineman Haloti Ngata were both franchised.

Hard to believe the Raiders won’t use it on Richard Seymour in the absence of a signed long-term contract. Yes, Seymour has proclaimed his desire to stay in Oakland. But if Seymour were he to hit the free market and a team nearer to his home in South Carolina (Atlanta, perhaps?) comes calling with a big offer, he’ll look straight into the cameras and say he wanted to be a Falcon all his life.

— Here’s the necessary warning with regard to franchise players _ they mean nothing unless included in a new collective bargaining agreement.

— The Raiders haven’t made a transaction regarding a player since Jan. 5, the day they signed punter Glenn Pakulak to a reserve/future contract. No key players signed to contracts or extensions. No players released.

— The lawyer for Michael Bush says his client wasn’t drunk at the time of his arrest with a 0.7 blood alcohol level, even though he turned up at 1.1 at the jail. Regardless of how it plays out in the legal system, Bush will have his hands full explaining that away to an NFL representative representing commissioner Roger Goodell.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • RaiderRockstar

    Dear JFB,

    I got you this for Valentine’s Day!

    Bruce Gradkowski “shoulders feeling fine”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DhOfz213A

    XoXo,

    RRS

  • Just Fire Baby

    Thanks!!!

    Campbell would have checked down to the guy and asked him to lay it in.

  • Just Fire Baby

    I prefer this video clip, because it reminds of the days when we were going steady.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-rBLGjx1LM&feature=related

  • raiderinpa

    BoJacks Says:
    February 15th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
    # SuicideRaider Says:
    February 15th, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Really sick of hearing all the crap about Condo. I don’t recall him ever making a bad snap but I do recall about 75% of the time him being involved in punt coverage tackles. Let it go! I think there are more important positions to be concerned with than a player who earns his paycheck and is consistent.
    ——————————————-

    No one notices a good snap, but EVERYONE notices the bad ones
    ******************************

    AMEN!!

    Bo Schembechler Jackson = Bagga-La-Doucha

    This is someone who lost a boyfriend to a long-snapper and is jealous that Condo makes more than he does flippin burgers at the Golden Arches… Give it up with the brainless, worthless comments… Find a constructive topic!

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Still nothing really new, except for a new thread saying the same things…oh well…
    Have coffee on me, AM Crew!!!
    Gabby, grab the boys a round!

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.HWNRDR.I AM GOING 2 PULL THE PLUG ON MY SSN-TIX HWNRDR.NOT AN EASY DECISION,JUST 2 MANY FACTORS RITE NOW.WILL TRY AND MAKE 2 OR THREE DIVISION GAMES BUT THATS IT.

  • hwnrdr

    Just read up…Al Davis burnt all of his bridges and no one trusts him anymore? Really?

  • hwnrdr

    I hear ya Dirt Lot! I guess I have til Friday to call my agent! I may stick it out one more year but we’ll see! Someone posted on here last night that we should send the NFL a message…that we shold not make a payment until the CBA has been reached…and I agree 100%

  • subichero

    KoolKell,

    I hear ya Boss…Your the man love the stat on winning seasons since 1989!!!

  • Just Fire Baby

    If I were you guys, I wouldn’t give any team a single penny until you know there is going to be football in 2011.

  • Good mornin Nation!!!

    Man dirt lot hate to lose another faithful but u gotta do what u got to

    I think I’m gonna return for my 15th season
    won’t pay them on time tho. Gotta no more bout this CBA first

  • hwnrdr

    Exactly, JFB! My agent left me a message saying that she’s not doing anything until she knows what my plans are…this Friday makinga payment? Huh?

  • r8rwill

    mornin nation,
    you guys are going to abandon ship just as we have spotted land? gosh… some pundits have predicted sell outs for near about every game..

  • FYI there gonna hold your seat til the regular season of you tell them too
    that counts as a sale til they actually release them
    last yr I did finish paying til a week b fore pre season started
    don’t trip they can’t afford to lose any of us…it’s not like they have a waiting list

  • hwnrdr

    I know…last year I paid half in like June and the other half , yup…right before preseason! So, yeah…not paying this Friday!

  • r8rwill

    the jets and pats are coming to town, and one of those games has to be a monday nighter the other is probably a late sunday game.. national tv and a full house in oakland, doesn’t get any better than that..it’s a great day to be a raiders fan…no?

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    I LOVE THE GAME AND THE TEAM.GETTING OLD I GUESS.

  • I might send. Fifty bucks lol to secure my three seats. Then lll pony up after there a new
    CBA

  • hwnrdr

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    February 16th, 2011 at 6:38 am
    I LOVE THE GAME AND THE TEAM.GETTING OLD I GUESS.

    YUP! Seen improvement last year enough to justify my renewal (if there is a season), but we’ll see! Wished I lived closer to the stadium though…getting up earlier than the birds on Sunday mornings is taking its toll…slowly!

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    I HEAR U HWNRDR,1HR-20 MINS EA. WAY 4 ME AND MY CREW.GETTING THERE 8 AM. LONGER ON WAY HOME W/TRAFFIC.SOUND LIKE A CRY BABY NOW I GUESS BUT…

  • bcz24

    So if we franchise Seymour he gets 120% of the DE franchise number (currently 12.398 million) which would put Seymours contract at $14,877,600 for 1 season. The problem with this is the guy played exclusively at DT last year. The franchise # for a DT is only $7,000,000. Theres an issue with this picture if you ask me

  • hwnrdr

    Hey…we’re not young anymore! Coffee please! 🙂

  • r8rwill

    hwnrdr, how far do you come?

  • r8rwill

    dlf, have no fear bro, weare all getting older lol but i hope that means wiser…

  • Just Fire Baby

    They don’t decipher between DT and DE’s, just like they don’t for OG and OT.

    Logan Mankins is getting the top 5 or whatever for all O-lineman, not just guards.

  • bcz24

    To go back to JFB’s point about a QB driven league just look at the franchise #s for each position –

    QB – $16,405,000
    DE – $12,398,000 (kill the qb)
    OL – (includes T, G, C) – $10,731,000 (protect the qb)
    CB – $9,566,000 (take away the QBs target)
    WR – $9,521,000 (the qbs target)

    Those are the top 5 salaried positions in the NFL…

  • bcz24

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 16th, 2011 at 7:04 am
    They don’t decipher between DT and DE’s, just like they don’t for OG and OT.
    ********
    Yes they do. The tag for DE is 12.3 mill, the tag for DT is 7.0 mill.

    Remember a few years back where the Raven (cant remember who it was) held out because he was franchised as a DT when he played more than 50% of the snaps at DE

  • r8rwill

    i am not complaining, my regular game day i leave home at eight and get back home after ten unless i am on the grill.. if so it is three in the morning!! three hours each way.. this year will be the first in soo many that i will see good football games.. all the other years were based on false hope,, i don’t think that is the case this year,,so i am looking forward to doing it!! go RRAAAIIIIIDERRSSSS!!!!!!
    only thing, i hope we have a season!!!! lol

  • hwnrdr

    r8rwill Says:
    February 16th, 2011 at 6:58 am
    hwnrdr, how far do you come?

    About an hour out, and I’m not complaining at all…its just that Saturday’s are family days and sometimes my kids and I tens to stay up a bit late…waking up early the next day, sometimes is hard!

  • –“Why was Marshall fired again?”–

    Well, first let me say I’m not a big fan of Chuck, but looking at his first 3 seasons as DC when we won 3 division titles and then at Marshall’s 2 seasons on the job, these numbers come up:

    BRESNAHAN PPG ALLOWED AVERAGE 2000-2002—–19.3
    MARSHALL PPG ALLOWED AVERAGE 2009-2010—–23.4

    Marshall’s defense appeared improved last season, but the fact is in 2009 we scored 12 ppg and allowed 23.

    Then Hue took over the offense in 2010 and we doubled scoring to the tune of 25 ppg, while the defense again allowed 23 pg.

    If Bresnahan does get the job, let’s hope he can make this defense a little tougher to score on.

  • Yeah me too
    I live in Oakley,ca so it’s about 40min to the stadium
    I tailgate an things. But we don’t leave the house til 10:30am
    get there bout 11:15 cook eat an walking in stadium round 12:50 or so
    I’m home by 4:30-5pm. In time to kick back an watch sun nite football
    I’m forty yrs old. Is that “getting old” fellas?

  • hwnrdr

    R8dercain…where in Oakley do you live? I live down the road from Panchos Market…and no, 40 is not (too) old…I’m 41…getting up at 6AM or before (depending on what I have to do that morning) is getting harder when you sleep after midninght at times!

  • bcz24

    I feel like such a youngin’. LOL. I am a month shy of my 30th birthday. LOL

  • Why isn’t this guy coming in for a work out? http://twitter.com/QBComa92

  • Carl Weathers

    bcz24 Says:
    February 16th, 2011 at 7:07 am
    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 16th, 2011 at 7:04 am
    They don’t decipher between DT and DE’s, just like they don’t for OG and OT.
    ********
    Yes they do. The tag for DE is 12.3 mill, the tag for DT is 7.0 mill.

    Remember a few years back where the Raven (cant remember who it was) held out because he was franchised as a DT when he played more than 50% of the snaps at DE
    *******
    I think that was Suggs and it was LB vs. DE salary tag.

  • r8rwill

    you guys are all spring chickens lol

  • bcz24

    I think that was Suggs and it was LB vs. DE salary tag.
    *****
    Could be, either way DE is higher, and not rolled together with DT

  • bcz24

    hwnrdr whats up with you pimpin poker sites on twitter?

  • hwnrdr

    Ok Will…you win! LOL

  • hwnrdr

    Bcz24…that’s my side business! Everyone needs side money these days…lol

  • I turn 35 in about 3 months.

    Damn….When my mom was 35 I thought she was ancient.

  • Just Fire Baby

    BCZ,

    I heard otherwise on the DT/DE issue.

    I am pretty sure that they just look at it as D-lineman and O-lineman. Hence Logan Mankins getting top 5 O-lineman money, and not G money (which would be waaaaaaay less)

  • hwnrdr

    I actually have a Raider Twitter account, but I forgot my password to that one…so…

  • bcz24

    Quarterback – $16,405,000

    Offensive Linemen (includes Offensive Tackle, Offensive Guard, Center) – $10,731,000

    Wide Receiver $9,521,000

    Running Back (includes all Fullbacks and Halfbacks) $8,156,000

    Tight end $5,908,000

    Defensive End $12,398,000

    Defensive Tackle $7,003,000

    Linebacker $9,680,000

    Cornerback $9,566,000

    Safety $6,455,000

    Kicker or Punter $2,814,000

    Those are the 2011 Franchise tag #s. They don’t lump the dline together like the oline.

  • bcz24
  • Hwnrdr Says:
    February 16th, 2011 at 7:24 am
    R8dercain…where in Oakley do you live? I live down the road from Panchos Market…and no, 40 is not (too) old…I’m 41…getting up at 6AM or before (depending on what I have to do that morning) is getting harder when you sleep after midninght at times!
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    I’m over by luckys an seven eleven

  • hwnrdr

    Funny, I used to live across from Lucky’s and 7-11 in Oakley Ranch!

  • Hwnrdr Says:
    February 16th, 2011 at 7:24 am
    R8dercain…where in Oakley do you live? I live down the road from Panchos Market…and no, 40 is not (too) old…I’m 41…getting up at 6AM or before (depending on what I have to do that morning) is getting harder when you sleep after midninght at times!

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    Reminds me of a Coach we have….1000 push ups + 1000 sit ups every night since High School! Lol

    Good Morning Nation!