Ramifications of Seymour deal
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, February 16th, 2011 at 2:04 pm in Oakland Raiders.
On a per-year basis, it was a good deal for Richard Seymour.
From a longterm perspective, it was a good deal for the Raiders.
The two-year deal which keeps Seymour in Oakland through 2012, as confirmed by beat writer Steve Corkran, will pay $30 million over two seasons, with $22.5 million of that guaranteed. ESPN is reporting it makes Seymour the NFL’s highest paid defensive player at $15 million, although a CNN-SI graphic puts the wages of Julius Peppers this season at $15.3 million.
(No confirmation on the deal as yet from the Raiders _ the top story on Raiders.com is that the iPad app is now available).
But in this case, it’s hard to make a case for Oakland going overboard in terms of pay as they did in the cases of cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, punter Shane Lechler and place kicker Sebastian Janikowski.
What Seymour got would seem to be the going rate for a regular Pro Bowl performer who showed he can still be somewhere near the very top of his game. The beauty of the deal for the Raiders is they didn’t make the mistake of making it a multi-year deal where Seymour would be due big money when clearly past his prime. Seymour will be 33 when the contract expires.
The ripple effect of the deal is this:
– It just got harder to bring back Nnamdi Asomugha. Asomugha isn’t going to get the $17 million or more his original deal would have brought in Oakland, but he’s a good bet to exceed the $11.5 million figure paid to Darrelle Revis this year and young enough to get a longterm deal with a big signing bonus.
But this shouldn’t come as a surprise. Al Davis made it clear Jan. 18 he loved the trade that brought Seymour to the Raiders, and seemed interested in bringing back Asomugha only if the price was right. Davis may think it more prudent to bring back both Stanford Routt and Michael Huff plus another player or two rather than sink huge money into Asomugha.
For what it’s worth (maybe not much since the Raiders of late have been getting younger, and not older) Denver free agent Champ Bailey put his house up for sale and the Broncos won’t put a franchise tag on him.
– There’s speculation that Zach Miller is now in line for the franchise tag, but I’m not so sure. Once there is a new collective bargaining agreement, there is no guarantee four-year players will be unrestricted free agents. The possibility exists that Miller and Michael Bush could be retained through tender offers, depending on the CBA. As good as Miller is, I’m not sure the Raiders are eager to pay him $7.3 million.
– As for Seymour’s pay relative to a potential salary cap, don’t be surprised if a few extra years with even more bloated salaries showed up on the deal in the event of a CBA with a cap to spread out the hit.
– The Raiders will get two more years to develop Lamarr Houston before he settles into the three-technique tackle currently manned by Seymour.
– Getting a respected veteran like Seymour to return is good for the Raiders’ league-wide reputation. He wasn’t going to get more money per season somewhere else, but on the open market, he probably could have gotten more guaranteed money in a longer term deal. His claims about wanting to remain a Raider carry with it some validity.
– Interesting to see if any other teams follow suit before the March 3 deadline and lock up their players, or if the Raiders will do more than just sign Seymour. Agent Drew Rosehnaus hopes so, and said as much on his Twitter page.
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February 16th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
$15 million per for Seymour?
Better than paying that to Tommy Kelly again I guess.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
I think its 11.25 per year with incentives. And I bet he won’t reach those incentives if he gets ejected again. Which is nice.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
As long as Al can keep Bush, Nnamdi and Miller and sign the top 10 free agents on the market I will be happy.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Get out there and clobber that oak tree, big Rich.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
Jerry did not touch on how this deal could lure a wavering candidate here as DC. I know if I were Moss I would be eager to see Al back up his roster hyperbole with actual contracts like this one.
Moss’ agent: “we’re close now Mr. Davis, but there is no way Winston signs if he has to start Jon Condo at Will.”
February 16th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
# Dakota Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
As long as Al can keep Bush, Nnamdi and Miller and sign the top 10 free agents on the market I will be happy.
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Al’s top ten or the actual top ten?
February 16th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Maybe Nnamdi is excited to see Big Sey still on the team for a few years. Remember those guys talking title in Oakland last year.
This may have made thing easier for Nnamdi to come back. Who knows what a new CBA will bring? Likely will be a salary cap, but cap has never been a problem for Al before.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
My top ten.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Oh, so they all have to be ND grads?
February 16th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Did I say grads?! Should have said “former students”.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
ND football graduation rate 94%
Michigan football graduation rate 70%
ouch.
http://www.fanblogs.com/ncaa/007839.php
February 16th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
The Raiders front office/ Al davis are still possesed. You got to give them props for bringing in Big Rich on for two years/ 20 mil/ 22.5mil in gaurantess. California teams are a huge disadvantdage because of state income tax so you know that every free agent deal will be at the top of the pay scale.
Great move because it allows Big Rich to continue mentoring the young bulls on the D line, and keep that bum Tommy Kelly from balloning up again.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
That Kam wimberly buy back is great. They got a steal for only giving up a 3rd rd pick for him. That trade will pay dividends this season.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Despite the love fest for Gallery, I can’t get over the 14 games he missed the past two seasons. If he stays healthy he is a qaulity gaurd, but can that guy stay healthy… I think he is too soft. Just don’t overpay that guy.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
I think Gallery will join Cable in Seattle, opening up the number 76 for Wiz Jr.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Gallery love fest? I thought that went north with The Wife Beating Buffoon!
February 16th, 2011 at 2:33 pm
where did you go to college Dakota?
February 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
College? College is for idiots who can’t make it on their own.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Dakota,
I know KK has a thing for Gallery. If he had stayed healthy last year I would have been good with it, but that dude is just too soft. I wonder what Gallery’s value is on the open market?
February 16th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
# Dakota Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
College? College is for idiots who can’t make it on their own.
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Ah, so you went straight to the pros like Sistrunk…
February 16th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
I declared for the pro draft after my sophomore year. Didn’t want to risk a career ending mental injury.
February 16th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Cya Southwick devotees…
February 16th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
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February 16th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I went to the school of hard knocks. Started off life planting fields as soon as I could walk. When I was 10 I joined the Army and helped suppress the Native Americans. Then at 16 I opened a casino and house of ill repute in Deadwood. At 20 I carved Washington’s nose for Gutzon Borglum on Mount Rushmore. I have since retired to enjoy life.
What is your story Bo?
February 16th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
college for idiots…funny shyyyt
February 16th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
A little late on the commentary, but I just have to say the Rod Woodson hire is the best Raiders coaching hire since Gruden, barnone. I know he has no formal coaching experience, but the man was a coach on the field for years. he is one of the smartest players ever, he is tough, disciplined, good natured and a true winner! I bet Woodson had something to do with the Seymore signing.
Wow. We are on our way back baby!
February 16th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Now, if we could just get Gannon to coach the QBs!
February 16th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Gannon didn’t just burned his bridge he said that the Raiders should just blow up the whole building… If Al Davis could have had him locked up for a terrorist threat he would have done everything in his power.
I wonder how much Gannon enjoyed watching the Raiders slap around the chiefs this past season.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
As far as the total money in the deal, yes, it is a lot of money, but it is about right for a pro-bowl DT and it is only for 2 years so there are no long term cap ramifications. But the real number that matters in a league with a salary cap is his per-year base salary. When looking at the deal on a per year basis, from what limited information has gotten out, it actually looks pretty good. Take the $7.5 mil bonus out of the $22.5 mil guaranteed and that leaves $15 mil guaranteed over two years. So, his salary as far as the cap should be somewhere from $7.5 to $11.5 per year, based on escalators and incentives which have not yet been released to the public. That is very manageable for a player of his caliber.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Reggie White played until he was 39 and was named the defensive player of the year when he was 37. Bruce Smith played until he was 41 and had a ten sack year at 36.
D Linemen suffer less from “losing a step” the way WRs, RBs, CBs, etc. do. I think Seymour can be effective well into his 30s, which makes this a good deal.
UNLESS, of course, injuries derail him, which makes the fact that it’s only a two year deal good also.
The news about the option on Wimbley is also great. The pass rush of 2010 will be back.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
—”The Raiders reportedly have a $3.5 million “buyback” option in SLB Kamerion Wimbley’s contract for 2011. They’d rather lock up Wimbley long term, but this is a plenty viable option if the Raiders don’t want to wait around for contract negotiations. Wimbley was Oakland’s sack leader last season and is an integral part of the revised, more up-tempo defense. He plays both end and outside linebacker”—
This is great news..
February 16th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
Oops, forgot that signing bonuses are pro-rated over the length of the contract. SO that leaves the base at $11.5 per year plus whatever escalators/incentives are reached. Hopefully those incentives are large, somewhere in the range of at least 12 games played and 5/6 sacks.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Raiders may have the most feared d line in the league by Qb’s… Just sucks they can’t stop the run.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Stopping the run is overrated….ask Al Davis.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
I know Seymour is not a RAIDER drafted player, but he IS the heart of the RAIDER D.
We should look @ DE’s in the later part of this year, and next year’s draft to back fill Houstone spot.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
33.dickv Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Raiders may have the most feared d line in the league by Qb’s… Just sucks they can’t stop the run.
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McPain should be better this year, and maybe an up-grade over Groves to boot.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Of our known/thought FA’s imo Seymour, 21, Miller, Gallery are the top 4.
One down, three to go.
Miller may be RFA, and Gallery should not be too hard to sign. Big 21 on the otherhand…. Have fun in NE!
February 16th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Dirtee,
Raiders do an exceptional job drafting and developing DE’s. Trevor scott, Matt Shaunassey, and Houston have all panned out. The Raiders just seem to understand how to draft in the back part of the draft. If they could ever get the first two rounds down, the raiders would be a dominate force for years to come. Great few steps forward with last years draft… again hats off to Al davis on having a na amazing draft last year: Jacoby, Veldaheer, Mclain, and Houston were all impact players. I think Stevie Brown just needs a chance to get more reps… that dude has a nose for the football. Goethel’s emergence in training camp sent Trevor scott back to the d line, and walt Mcfadden was a stud at auburn( despite him being torched against Miami)… I think he can still play.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
My money is that Nnamdi shows up in Baltimore. They have an aging defense and that window is about to close (on that side of the ball/ defense). Ed Reed, Suggs, Ngata, & Nnamdi would be amazing. ray lewis still makes plays too.
and B’more next to DC.
February 16th, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Now that we know that Seymour stays, here’s another way in which the Seymour trade was a good move: the Raiders traded away their number one in a year when they knew a lot of their players would hit FA, knew they’d need money.
Even if they had tanked and NE received a top ten pick, think of the money it would take to sign a top ten pick and then take that out of what the Raiders have to sign Aso, Miller, Bush, Wimbley, Huff, Gallery, etc.
By luck or design, nice work by the Raiders GM. Who is that guy, anyway?
February 16th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
The RAIDERS GM may be the Ex of the year!
February 16th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Even though Gallery was hyped by Cable (perhaps for job security reasons), I don’t think he is top notch, if he wants top notch money, i say let him go.
I think that defending the pass is more about pressuring the QB than covering WRs. Sorry to see Nnamdi go, class act, but we need more talent on the Dline in order to improve defensively. Id rather have a good Dline with a instinctive safety than a pair if allpro corners trying to cover for 10 seconds.
February 16th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Dirtee… if Al reatins the core nucleas of the FA’s… he will have my vote for Exec of the year/ paired with another solid draft. I can’t get over how well the raiders did in last years draft: got a stud MLB. Traded back twice to get Houston (picking up extra picks; drafted Veldaheer in the 3rd… better than Okung and on par with ryan Buluaga. Finally found a play maker in Ford in the fourth. The three trades brought in 3 starters: Jason Campbell, Wimberly, and Groves.
Campbell was an upgrade. People can talk bad about him all they want. I remeber when we booed Kerry Collins out of the stadium with 18 td’s/ 12 pciks… we have had hoorible Qb play ever since… Campbell stablized the position. We need a Qb in the middle of the draft that can watch and learn the old fashioned way. Really like ricky Stanzi… he has a size, the arm, and I was really impressed watching his pocket presence last year. Andrew Walter & Jamarcus had zero pocket presence, and that is why they failed: Jamarcus had a whole lot of other issues obviously, but the holding the ball and no presence in the pocket doomed those two for sure.
February 16th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
from what I have heard Stanzi had a horrible Senior bowl week. Supposedly he worse than Jake Locker..
Is Locker worth it in the 2nd or 3rd?
February 16th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi confirms that the Raiders have picked up SLB Kamerion Wimbley’s $3.5 million option for 2011.
He’s now signed through next season. Wimbley, the Raiders’ sack leader with nine last year, will return as the club’s starting strong-side linebacker in 2011
February 16th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
SN’s NFL Executive of the year is Thomas Dimitroff, Atlanta Falcons GM
Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2011-01/sn-2010-nfl-awards/story/sns-nfl-executive-of-the-year-is-thomas-dimitroff-atlanta-falcons-gm#ixzz1EAfp7Kws
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In case you genius’s didn’t know.
February 16th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Does anyone think gallery gets franchisied now?we can get another year to see if he and veldeer will continue to get better.
February 16th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
45.kvnbntly Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi confirms that the Raiders have picked up SLB Kamerion Wimbley’s $3.5 million option for 2011.
He’s now signed through next season. Wimbley, the Raiders’ sack leader with nine last year, will return as the club’s starting strong-side linebacker in 2011
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Oh HE!L yeah!
All hail KING AL!
Long live Al!
February 16th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
41.The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
The RAIDERS GM may be the Ex of the year!
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In case you genius’s didn’t know, it is now 2011! A NEW YEAR!
February 16th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
47.chuck Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Does anyone think gallery gets franchisied now?we can get another year to see if he and veldeer will continue to get better.
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No, not at all.
February 16th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
KK,
Lol… I was talking about maybe next year. You can be mad all you want. You wanted Big Rich back more than I did. al got him back a relatviely good price. al is making some good moves lately including not retaining Cable. The Wimberly option showed the old man had another trick up his sleeve. It is great too see sanity come back to Oakalnd and continue so far this offseason.
February 16th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
—”NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi confirms that the Raiders have picked up SLB Kamerion Wimbley’s $3.5 million option for 2011. He’s now signed through next season. Wimbley, the Raiders’ sack leader with nine last year, will return as the club’s starting strong-side linebacker in 2011″—
great news, and I hear Jets will let Cromatie walk, he might be the new Nnamdi… Rod Woodson woul be able to rip out his nonsense and mistakes..
February 16th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
—”Citing sources, NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi reports that the Jets plan to let free agent CB Antonio Cromartie walk this offseason”—
February 16th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
sup fellas.
Kell, I saw you give props earlier to AD for getting the deal done with Big Rich.
Now, that didn’t kill ya, did it?
February 16th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Buckeyeraider
I’m glad someone noticed.
February 16th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
—”According to Lombardi, the Jets are more focused on re-signing Santonio Holmes and Braylon Edwards. GM Mike Tannenbaum made it clear he wasn’t thrilled with Cromartie’s postseason remarks about Tom Brady, the NFL, and the NFLPA, and the Jets may be interested in free agent Nnamdi Asomugha. Ironically, Cromartie could appeal to the Raiders with a ridiculous size/speed combination. He also excels in press-man schemes like Oakland’s”—
what I said.. LOL
February 16th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Well the Raiders could sign Comartie, or the Jets could sign Nnamdi.
February 16th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Cromartie would make some sense, especially if Jonathan Joseph gets the franchise tag. He’s not a very physical player, however, and won’t be the sure tackler that Nnamdi is. It also remains to be seen how he’ll perform after A.) getting a new deal and B.) not being across the field from a far superior corner.
February 16th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Cromartie has fathered nine children with eight women living in six states, and has been named in at least five paternity suits in the past two years.[15] According to court records, Cromartie failed to appear in court on two separate occasions in reference to moving violations and his driver license status.[16] In March 2010, the Jets provided Cromartie with a $500,000 advance so Cromartie could make outstanding child support payments.”[17]
On July 2, 2010, Cromartie married Terricka Cason who starred on E!’s “Candy Girls.”[17] Cason gave birth to a daughter, Jerzie, in April 2010. [17
February 16th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Well, Al’s money can help him with at least a few of those paternity suits…
February 16th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
sure, the Raiders could sign Baby Mama Drama Cromartie, and then sign the exTenn/Donk RB once he gets out of prison and then sign Shawn Kemp as an advisor for “family day”. might as well bring in Sprewell as a consultant for “clueless is as clueless does” day.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Getting Big Rich resigned is huge. The guy said he sees himself retiring as a Raider, and hopefully he means it.
For one it validates the trade. To give up a first rounder for a two year rental woulda been awful.
Like I said before don’t discount the impact Big Rich has had on the development of the other young D-lineman. Mike Waufle’s record speaks for itself in both NY and Oakland, but don’t underestimate the importance of having a dominant force to mentor youngsters on the field.
Plus, Big Rich brings league-wide credibility to the Raiders locker room. As an added bonus, he’s Old-school Raider Nasty. lol. Just ask Big Ben.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Al seems to be very intent on getting things done before the CBA expires…DC being the one glaring exception..
February 16th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
I should add, hiring a coach has nothing to do with the CBA..
February 16th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
so few haters among the PM crew today (how is that possible?). The re-upping of Richard must’ve tweaked them.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
It’s nice to get the deal done with Seymour to free up the tag for others as needbe. The concensus seems to be Zach Miller.
Hopefully in the new CBA both Zach and Bush will be RFA. I want them both back.
The player I would focus the franchise tag on if needed is Michael Huff. Some of you have said he’s expressed an interest in returning in his tweets. I hope so.
They need to keep Huff. That guy is ballin. he might not be in Ed Reed and Troys league just yet. But he is in the next tier and his arrow is pointing up.
The guy is getting better and better, and would be tough to replace. I know a lot of you guys are high on Stevie Brown. And he’s shown the knack for making plays and being around the ball in preseason and limited action. But he’s no sure thing.
Huff is playin a mean free safety, and doesn’t get enough credit around here, IMO.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Or JerryM, strapped for cash forgot to pay them.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Buckeye,
If RWood could turn MHuff into RWood then there is every reason to sign the young man. If not…
February 16th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
M Lonetree Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Or JerryM, strapped for cash forgot to pay them.
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How much do you get paid for swallowing?
February 16th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
I liked how Huffy24 dropped the hammer on Bowe in the finale. He showed you can still be physical, even in Roger’s NFL.
Didn’t lead with his helmet or go to the head. Just sized ‘em up and timed it perfectly…and knocked the dog piss out of him. Dwayne Bowe is a pretty good sized dude, too. Not a smurf.
Huff is maturing into a complete FS. Hate to see him as a Cowpoke or Texan next year.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
I was really hard on huff, but im sure woodson will be able to help him out. He may never be great but next year he could be better than serviceable.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Huff has been high on the hate list in here since he was drafted.
It takes time to learn saftey. Now he’s the FS, and out of the box.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
Saunders, wiz, beikert, woodson. i think Hu Jack must have a lot of respect around the nfl. look at these guys jumping at the chance to get on board.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Nnadi and Cromartie sounds like what we thought Nnamdi and Hall was going to be
February 16th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
I don’t reckon Huff will be commanding THAT much on the open market.
I like MM at SS and Stevie Brown at FS, too!
February 16th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
The prospect of Cromartie and Routt scares me.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
U gotta love the Twiiter fight between Ocho and T.O….98% sure there playing around but if they werent it would be great
February 16th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
My player priority list
1. Nnamdi
2. Miller
3. Huff
4. Bush
5. Gallery
6. Cromartie/Routt
7. TO
8. Cartwright
February 16th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Al, hire Favre as our new QB Coach!
Thanks!
-r8eray
February 16th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Report: Jets plan to let Antonio Cromartie walk!
February 16th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Slap an RFA tender on Miller, then franchise tag Huff? What would the franchise tag price be for a FS?
February 16th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Any of you guys see the NFLN Total access on Casey Mathews? I just saw the preview this morning. It said next in the Bloodline or Bust?
I know a lot of you guys are high on bringing the instinctive Oregon LB in, in the 3rd or 4th in your mock drafts.
Just curious to hear what Mayock and the NFLN guys had to say.
February 16th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
The Seymour punch of Roethlisberger was classic. We were gettin our a$$e$ handed to us so whay not risk getting ejected to make it known that Raider way is back
February 16th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
OchoCinco Via Twitter ” Cincy Bengal rock!!! Anybody that doesnt like us F*** you and the horse you rode in on!!!! Who Fing Dey”
February 16th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
$12 million a year for Nnamdi SHOULD be enough, but will a better team make a competitive offer? Would the prospect of working with Rod Woodson and being part of a maturing young team be enough to keep him? I’m not sure.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
82.buckeyeraider Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Any of you guys see the NFLN Total access on Casey Mathews? I just saw the preview this morning. It said next in the Bloodline or Bust?
I know a lot of you guys are high on bringing the instinctive Oregon LB in, in the 3rd or 4th in your mock drafts.
Just curious to hear what Mayock and the NFLN guys had to say.
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He aint going to be no bust.
He is just a smaller version of his brother IMO, though he may not wind up being as dominant as quickly as Clay is…the blood lines and football IQ will alone will make him a productive player with decent enough athleticism, knowledge of the game, along with his football instincts.
He would be a solid 3rd Round pick IMO.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Big Sey became a real Raider with that punch to the rapist a lot of women cheered loudly because someone sis to him what he’s used to doing to women.
Big Sey changed the way we play defense and you’ll see this defense take off next year as one of the very best in gthe league. McClain hasn’t even begun to fight that kid is going to be something really special as will LH at LDE.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Jerry’s article about R.Woodson joining the Raiders mentioned how he would concentrate on the CBs while Ross would work with the safeties yet so many on here keep talking about how much he will help Huff.It sounds to me like his main projects will be Routt,McFadden,Ware,and any other young CB we might acquire.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
If Nnamdi walks, I hope the Raiders sign a free agent AND get a young corner via the draft. His starting spot has been one of the few stable areas of the Raiders’ defense over the past few years, so they need to have some options going into training camp.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Ben dropping like a sack of potatoes and curling up like a little girl was great.
Why is it that many people are all about giving people a second chance? What about the people that live right in the first place? When you intentionally take advantage of young women, you should be left in a room with a few fathers. Somehow I don’t think Ben, should he end up having a daughter, would want some guy like him around his own kid.
BAN THE TROLLS! Or at least give their email addresses to Ben so he can get in touch with their daughters. I hear Ben has changed and is a nice guy now.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Lefty12 You are right he will concentrate on making the CB’s playmakers. Thye cover well but they don’t make plays on the ball. You saw GB go to the SB because they make plays, they attack the ball when it’s in the air. Our guys blanket the WR and let him catch it or knock it down. Catch it and the offense is back on the field.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
The Raiders have gotten back to respectability the last few years by bypassing big name FAs and building through the draft and lower rung FAs.It looks as if Davis has learned that throwing big bucks at big names isn’t a great way to go.I expect the trend to continue.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:16 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Slap an RFA tender on Miller, then franchise tag Huff? What would the franchise tag price be for a FS?
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While ZMiller is an excellent TE it’s not like there aren’t a bunch of good TE’s around. Don’t get me wrong, I want to keep him but I don’t believe he’ll command the $’s necessary to use the franchise tag on him. We should be able to make a deal with him. The guy that I definitely don’t want to lose is Bush I predict he’ll be in BIG demand. Much more so than a demand for ZMiller. Worse case if we lose ZMiller, is to move Reece to TE and backfill at the FB position. I’d save that franchise tag for either Bush or Huff.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Favre has been working out with Jason Campbell
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 3, 2010, 12:32 AM EST
Vikings quarterback Brett Favre recently started working out with football players nearly young enough to be his grandchildren.
He also has been working out with an NFL quarterback nearly young enough to be his son.
Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports that Favre “has thrown with” Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell several times this offseason.
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Brett Favre to be the Raiders next QB’s Coach!!
February 16th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
I don’t see Reece as an option at TE. Miller has to be re-signed, it’s just a matter of how it’s going to happen. It’s very likely that he’ll be an RFA, which is why I’m not sure Al will franchise tag him. He’s been the Raiders’ most reliable receiver every year since he was drafted, so I can’t envision any scenario where he doesn’t eventually get a long-term deal. The only question is when it’ll happen.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
Wow TJ OldMan.
That’s some heavy stuff.
Team that went to the SB makes plays????
Do other teams know about this?
February 16th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
# lefty12 Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
The Raiders have gotten back to respectability the last few years by bypassing big name FAs and building through the draft and lower rung FAs.It looks as if Davis has learned that throwing big bucks at big names isn’t a great way to go.I expect the trend to continue.
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Raiders have gotten back to respectability the last few years?
WHAT??
Seriously, you call the last few years respectable?
Dumbest thing I’ve seen on here since TJ Oldmans post.
Sad when some fans settle on seasons that you aren’t even above 500 as respectable.
Last year? Team set an NFL league record is consecutive double digit loss seasons, and you call that respectable?
Ignorant comment, Lefty
February 16th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
I see the teenagers are back looking for attention……..I see you you son ………keep it movin’.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 6:51 pm
I see the teenagers are back looking for attention……..I see you you son ………keep it movin’.
#########See?
Everyone told you dropping out of school in the 7th grade would come back and bite ya.
You think your ignorance is lack of education, or alcohol induced?
February 16th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Aaaaaaaand the pissing matches begin.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Tell us again, TJOldMan, how Joe Bugel is, “in his own right, a very good coach”??
lol. You idiot.
February 16th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Aaaaaaaand the pissing matches begin.
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Not true.
TJ is viewed as a ‘worm contestant”.
When he gets pissed on, he tucks tail, tucks head, and rushes off, waiting for coast to clear.
It is his way.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
YA I don’t have the inclination to argue with this fool he just wants me to notice him. Insecure as he is.
I’d rather watch grass grow.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
What TJ OldMan means is he stupidly took me on in the past, and I embarrassed him into leaving.
Next time? Same result. Tucked tail like the illiterate punk he is.
Tell us again, how you work for the organization, TJOldman?
Where you say how you are around these guys on a daily basis, and watch what goes on, IN PERSON, PERIOD!!
we love bed time stories, OldMan
February 16th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Go outside and play, on the freeway.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Maybe these words of wisdom will shake your memory, TJOldMan?
priesttj Says:
November 26th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Russell is the future if we have a future Grads is a scrap heap bandaid. Russell has real talent to be great, Grads has no chance. If you want a chance we take it on Russell. Just common sense…….period
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Common sense? that russell is the future?
lol. good stuff, punk.
Some would say you have to be a fall down drunk to post something that dumb.
or you’re just dumb.
Which is it?
February 16th, 2011 at 7:17 pm
great news every week since Al hired Hue as HC;
Raiders have:
Wauffle coming back as DL coach
Al Saunders as OC
Biekart promoted to LB coach
Wisniewski as Asst O-Line coach (his experience in strength and conditioning coach at Stanford will pay off as well)
Rod Woodson as DB/S coach
Raiders signed Mr. Seymour long term.
Raiders defense is going to dominate this season!
64 Sacks is the goal (4 per game)!
February 16th, 2011 at 7:18 pm
Moss’ agent: “we’re close now Mr. Davis, but there is no way Winston signs if he has to start Jon Condo at Will.”
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I hope that is a joke!
February 16th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Glad to hear that Seymour was re-signed. Shows a strong commitment to the D-Line….a commitment that was sorely lacking for years. This is great news.
The Raiders need to re-sign Asomugha next. Let Gallery walk away and low-ball Miller and Bush.
Nnamdi is a difference maker and I refuse to believe teams get better letting elite players walk away…especially when there is nothing credible in reserve.
Asomugha, as you all know, shuts down his side of the field completely. The Raiders, due to a lack of talent, were unable to take advantage of this. The answer at the end of it all is to get a better CB to play opposite Nnamdi.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Retribution I have to agree this is going to be fun to watch, this CBA thing is driving me up the wall. Other than that things are definitely looking up.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
If Baltimore can afford Ray Lewis, Haloti Ngata (franchised), Ed Reed and Suggs….then the Raiders need to find a way to afford Seymour AND Asomugha.
If it comes down to dollars…then you let Huff and Miller walk away.
You don’t dump Pro-Bowl players and get NO compensation. THat sets your franchise back
February 16th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Raiders are solid at the DL
all returning:
Mr. Houston-Mr. Kelley-Mr.Seymour-Mr. Shaughnessy
with Mr. Bryant & Mr. Scott as solid back-ups
Mr. Henderson has got to be motivated to come back now.
Raiders can focus on LBs and OL for the this season’s draft, and/or best player available.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
Going from the 1st pick in the draft to 8-8 is going from the bottom of the barrel to respectability.Even many of the talking heads don’t use the Raiders as a lead in to their jokes.But you are too ignorant to understand any of this and are totally jealous because now your 40whiners are the joke of the NFL.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
I know Priest, I do not even care about the NBA scores until this longest of preseason of preseasons is over.
Raider moves and CBA updates are all I look forward to in the news.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:34 pm
101.ArchiveTony Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Tell us again, TJOldMan, how Joe Bugel is, “in his own right, a very good coach”??
lol. You idiot.
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I thought Bugel was widely regarded as a pretty decent coach. Head coach maybe not.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Proddy, I concur I would let Mr. Miller, Mr. Huff, and Mr. Gallery walk for Mr. Asomugha.
I think Jerry is correct, Mr. Zach is not worth the $7mill it would take to tag him. We could draft DJ Williams in the middle to late rounds 3rd-7th.
Mr. Huff though much improved does not command over $10mill to tag him, we could draft Marcus Gilchrest rounds 3-7.
Gallery, I am actually more concerned about retaining Mr. Barnes, Mr. Satele, and Mr. Loper as backups and for continuity’s sake- all 3 would be for Gallery’s salary. We could draft Wisniewski late 1st early second, which means we’ll need to move up. We could also draft Marcus or Marcus (Gilbert/Cannon).
even if we draft all three Marcus, there will be only one and w/o an *.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
YOU ARE SO RIGHT PRIEST…boy doesn’t kniw ish about football..in other words he hasn’t the time of day..
February 16th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Bugel was an excellent O-Line coach, some great coordinators are not good HC’s:
Wannstadt, McDaniels, Singletary,
although down the line, even these might win a super bowl as a HC.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:43 pm
I’d at least consider letting Bush, Huff, and Routt walk if it meant signing Asomugha to a deal around $12-13 million. Hell, he’d still even be the highest paid CB in the NFL.
Let CJ, McFadden and Ware (maybe Davon House or Jalil Brown) compete for the job across from Nnamdi, find a change of pace RB in free agency or the mid to late rounds of the draft, and sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown for the FS spot.
But then again, there’s the chance that $13 million won’t be enough to keep Asomugha. At which point retaining Huff and Routt becomes a priority for the Raiders.
Miller needs to stay, no doubt about that.
I think the only chance of Routt leaving is if Al ends up paying Nnamdi instead.
I don’t think Gallery or Satele fit in with the new blocking scheme, but who knows. It might not be all that different from last season.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:45 pm
NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi confirms that the Raiders have picked up SLB Kamerion Wimbley’s $3.5 million option for 2011.
He’s now signed through next season. Wimbley, the Raiders’ sack leader with nine last year, will return as the club’s starting strong-side linebacker in 2011.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
If Asomugha walks, sign Joseph, Marshall or Cromartie and draft a CB (Jimmy Smith or Curtis Brown in the 2nd round? Davon House in the 5th?).
Then re-sign Huff, Routt, Bush, and Miller.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
94.r8eray Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
Favre has been working out with Jason Campbell
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on July 3, 2010, 12:32 AM EST
Vikings quarterback Brett Favre recently started working out with football players nearly young enough to be his grandchildren.
He also has been working out with an NFL quarterback nearly young enough to be his son.
Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports that Favre “has thrown with” Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell several times this offseason.
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Brett Favre to be the Raiders next QB’s Coach!!
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No. Brett Favre as new Raider QB with JC assuming an apprentice role for one last season of glory.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
We have all learned that getting the defensive backfield right has been difficult for this franchise AND this franchise has spent a lot of draft picks trying to find the Nnamdi Asomugha’s of the world.
I would not look forward to future drafts if the Raiders have to replace Asomugha.
February 16th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
SnB man I agree with everything you’ve said so far, but i would add Bush to that mix of players we can’t lose. TE’s are easy to get and we have depth at safety.
How ever we would do well to get everyone on board….
February 16th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
I will never understand the mindset that TEs are easy to get, and yet a second-string RB must be retained at any cost.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:02 pm
It’s easy YA Bush is NOT your ordinary second-string HB he may be better than the starter we aren’t talking about Justin Fargas. We’re talking about a legitimate bonafide bigtime back capable of dominating. Zack is a very good TE but he aint Kellen Winslow.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:03 pm
I agree YA.
Bush is not that high on my resign list. But Miller isn’t either, lol. Look at all the fill in TEs from last year that played their arsses off. How many passes did Miller drop last year? How many blocks did he whiff on?
I’m hoping Huff is next on the priority list for Al.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
he may be better than the starter
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4 years later, still not the case, Priest.
Twinkle toes Bush does NOT run like a power back. He couldn’t hold DMac’s jock!
February 16th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
Most media members are missing the point on the Seymour deal. He didn’t get Asomugha’s money, he got the money the Raiders have paid out to top 10 draft picks for the past decade. BIG RICH IS OUR FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK!
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS:
LETS GET ASOMUGHA SIGNED
And please stop the Stanford Routt madness. This guy is horrible and every offensive coordinator & QB we face has him targeted as the weak link and challenges him every week (mostly with success). If he gets big money the organization will regret it. Please Mr Davis…DONT DO IT
February 16th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
I just think that when you put aside the rhetoric and B.S…the bottomline is that you don’t want to be losing elite players.
Seymour is an elite player…his re-signing was HUGE!
Getting Asomugha in here would be a successfull offseason in my opinion.
Again, we are talking about a DT that can change the game and we are talking about a CB that shuts down an entire side of the field.
Give me those two with a developing McClain in the middle and the defense will do just fine.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
If Bush isn’t resigned I’d be shocked beyond belief. Bush is IMO a GREAT back as complete as they come a finisher and a game closer. If he were in Pittsburgh they’d be sizing him up for Canton.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
The truth is that no matter who is in the backfield, you can’t win games by running the ball alone.
Good defenses stop the run effectively (the San Fran, Miami, Indy, and Pittsburgh games are examples of this), at which point the offense needs to respond through the passing game.
The Raiders’ passing game is weak enough as it is without losing the guy who has led the team in receiving every year since he was drafted.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Bush will probably be retained, but he’s in no way more valuable to the Raiders than Miller.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
DMC would be bringing up the rear had Bush not gotten hurt in camp. He beat DMC out in camp and broke his hand Jhill. I like both backs equally I’m just morew of a big back kinda guy. And Bush is the best this league has to offer…………..period
February 16th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
We’ll let the owner prove who’s right when the dust settles watch who gets the best contract and who touches it more. I can get a TE tomorrow to replace ZM you aint gonna find a HB like Bush nowhere in this draft……………period
February 16th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Where are you going to get a TE tomorrow?
February 16th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
In FA or the draft YA there are at least 4 TE’s better than ZM in this draft.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Ahahaha. Whatever you say, man. I could not disagree more.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
Where are you going to get a TE tomorrow?
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Myers can ball and he is on staff…
February 16th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
ZM is good, cant block worth ish….
February 16th, 2011 at 8:23 pm
To be sure, Zach Miller is a good player, no doubt.
I just think an elite shut down Man2Man CB is more valuable than a good TE….
Nnamdi is one of the top 10 players in the NFL.
Gotta try and keep him
February 16th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Zach Miller is a proven TE, we have bigger holes in our offense!
Why waste a 2nd or 3rd round pick on TE??
Your not gonna find a TE in the 6th or 7th RD better than Miller!
February 16th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
with the way college programs are ran could find at least 5 replacements for ZM…Likewise for MBUSH…
February 16th, 2011 at 8:25 pm
ZM is decent at catching the ball, he does drop some form time to time however, his blocking is suspect…
February 16th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Myers is a pretty solid #2 TE. A good, young, developing player. But as we all saw when he was filling in for Miller, he’s definitely not at that level yet.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
All the “key” raiders will return…ZM is definetly a key no reason to replace the guy…
MBUSH on the other hand is a diffrent matter, does he want to stay and play secnd fiddle????
February 16th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
The other forces will ensure that we get all the “Keys” signed..ZM is a key, and he will return to the NATION to assist in our acension..
February 16th, 2011 at 8:29 pm
Too many holes on this team as it is to let the starting TE (one of only two on the roster) and leading receiver walk. If he’s not an RFA, franchise him or give him a long-term deal.
Makes no sense to create a completely new position of need to waste a draft pick on (especially in a weak TE class outside of Rudolph, and especially with no 1st round pick). And with Mercedes Lewis being the likely recipient of the franchise tag in Jacksonville, there aren’t going to be many adequate FA options out there.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
It’s not about playing second fiddle man it’s about having an opportunity to win. The guy that had him nailed to the bench is GONE. The next guy will be served his marching orders about Bush. If you think for one second that Mr Davis was kidding in that Presser concerning Bush you don’t know Al Davis………..period
February 16th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
With any luck, Bush will be an RFA along with Miller.
Or maybe he figures that he’ll get to score a lot of TDs again as a goal-line back, and that McFadden won’t be able to stay healthy for a full season again so he’ll get plenty of opportunities.
Or maybe he wants to be a #1 back and get paid accordingly.
Who knows.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
priesttj Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
It’s not about playing second fiddle man it’s about having an opportunity to win. The guy that had him nailed to the bench is GONE. The next guy will be served his marching orders about Bush. If you think for one second that Mr Davis was kidding in that Presser concerning Bush you don’t know Al Davis………..period
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Sure its about playing second fiddle…
Example Michael Turner was second fiddle behind LT, he wanted to start and got the hell of of SD…
MBUSH may want to be the “Man”…Mr. davis does not have any control over that, unless he is made the stater…
So what are you saying…
February 16th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
If you think for one second that Mr Davis was kidding in that Presser concerning Bush you don’t know Al Davis………..period
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I never met Mr. Davis so you are right…
But if you are saying that MBUSH is going to be the starter this year, as much as I like MBUSH I will vehemetly disagree, and furthermore are you going t pay the backup starter monney????
February 16th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
I’m sure Bush’s agent saw the presser, too.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
The guy that had him nailed to the bench is GONE.
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Correct me if I am wrong but, wasnt MBUSH one of the first guys saying that he was out becuase cable got whacked???
February 16th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Anyway I am going back into the shadows as i have posted way past my allotted limit….
All you guys stay cool…
1 NATION…..
February 16th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Miller went to the Pro Bowl,albeit as an alternate.You don’t just let pro bowl players walk.You also don’t replace them as easily as some of you insinuate.We complained for years that we needed a good TE,and tried to get one.Now we have one and people act like he isn’t necessary.Sometimes this place makes absolutely no sense.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
M Bush starting over DMac??????
I can’t see that at all.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Mr davis “has no comtrol”? are you serious?? he has THE control. Bush is a GREAT back I mean a GREAT back Miller is a very good TE. In games when he gets the ball in the redzone he is money. He had 9 TD’s and missed 4 games and wasn’t played much in 4 others. Give him the ball 300’s he’ll get 15 TD’s at least that’s what he is he has great hands and he is the best blocking back on this team hands down. It seems you guys don’t understand this game this is a great players who’s been in the shadows long enough and trust me if Mr davis is living thi s season it wont happen again.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Actaully Lefty, we are just kinda prioritizing the FAs. I don’t think anyone said Miller was not necessary.
Miller is down my list of FAs simply because of dollars. Not too concerned about him and Bush since they will most likely be RFAs.
I’d rather have Huff and Nnamdi back FIRST AND FOREMOST than Miller and Bush. If we can get them all back, even better.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
priesttj Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Mr davis “has no control”?
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Question have you talked to MBUSH? Do you know what his intentions are? granted that he cost himself some
$,$$$,$$$ however he does have options….
So are you saying that MBUSH will get stater cash, and he will be thet starter this year?
What excatly are you saying???
February 16th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Unless Bush is an RFA, Al Davis indeed has no control over what he does. He can’t control if Bush wants to be a #1 RB and get paid like it. And Bush isn’t going to start over McFadden.
Bush could indeed be a great back. To me, that makes it all the more likely that if he’s not an RFA, he’s going to find a team that will make him The Man.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Unless Bush is an RFA, Al Davis indeed has no control over what he does. He can’t control if Bush wants to be a #1 RB and get paid like it. And Bush isn’t going to start over McFadden.
Bush could indeed be a great back. To me, that makes it all the more likely that if he’s not an RFA, he’s going to find a team that will make him The Man.
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Exactly…
February 16th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Priest,while it is true Davis likes MBush,he also loves guy he drafts in the top 5.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Personally, I think Al will bring both Miller and Bush back before he gives new deals to Huff and Nnamdi.
February 16th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
My hope is that the “other forces” bring back all our guys…Keep this thing intact
February 16th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Listen we had a HB named Marcus Allen HOF type player and when we had a chance to get Bo Jackson we didn’t skip a beat he attacked it. Got Bo Jackson and they shared the spotlight same goes here there are plaenty of carries for both and I gaurantee you plenty of money for both. Don’t worry it’ll get done……..period
Lefty12 as far as ZM is concerned I didn’t mean we didn’t need the guy but if you think he is more of a need than Bush I’m sorry I wholeheartedly disagree.
I can get a TE from Stanford or ND or Cal and we wouldn’t miss a beat……..period
February 16th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Priest,
DMac went down a few times this season and Bush got plenty of opportunities to show he is the back you say he is and was FAR from that.
Here nor there though.
I think he’ll be back as a RFA. Can’t see another team giving up a draft pick to Al for his services.
HOF if in Pitts????
WOW!
February 16th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
We could get a backup RB in rd 4, and not miss a beat …..PERIOD!
February 16th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Outro…
February 16th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Marcus Allen was also drafted seven years before the NFL instituted free agency.
February 16th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
You are wrong if Bush hadn’t injured his hand he would’ve been the starter now that we’ve seen this new DMC it should be much more difficult DMC is a helluva back I wouldn’t mind who started I just want to see a lot more of the big guy.
February 16th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
The Raiders could draft Kyle Rudolph in the second round and not miss a beat, that is true.
Now, the question is, why would the Raiders let Miller walk so they have to use their highest pick this season to fill a position where they already have a very good player?
February 16th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
I’m not anti MBush,I just think you are undervaluing ZMiller.I read earlier today where some were saying Cartright was as valuable as ZMiller.That is asinine.
February 16th, 2011 at 9:04 pm
Jhill keep dreamin’
February 16th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
I agree with Priest on this one,there is no way you replace MBush with any 4th rd pick.
February 16th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Lefty12 No man I know how important a good TE is to any offense. But there are some great TE’s in this draft the kid from Cal or Stanford will start day1 so will the kid from ND. I don’t want to lose ZM and we wont lose him. I’m just puzzled at the cluelessness of the abilities of Michael Bush. You don’t find big backs with his kind of skillset Mike Turner is a runner he can’t catch like Bush and he isn’t as gifted a runner I’m not sure about his blocking. But Bush is a very rare animal. I”m a bit taken aback at the lack of understanding from some in here. GUys like Bush aren’t just walking the street. That kid was teh steal of that draft as witnessed by those who consistently try to pry his services away from us.
February 16th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
My only problem with MBush is he doesn’t run as big as he is,if you get my drift.There are times where he dances instead of lowering his shoulder and shows more power.But,as you know,I’ve been a MBush fan since the day we drafted him.Also,he breaks a lot of big runs for a guy his size.Doesn’t have the home-run ability of McFadden,but he does bust long runs with regularity.
February 16th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Lefty12 the reason I think he tends to danc a bit is his vision he sees things and tries to make them work and he’ll get caught. That is just knowing when you can and when you can’t. His vision and feet are that of a scatback but when he wants to he can lower his pads and get another 5 yards as well bounce it and break it for big yardage. He is just a very rare animal. I saw that in the youtube video the first time I saw him. He did something similar to Marcus Allen and reversed his field and scored from 70 yards out at 245 lbs.. THat is rare stuff!!!!
That TD against KC in the last game he could gone for 50-60 yards he just made everyone miss. True greatness.
February 16th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
There should be plenty of work for both DMAC and Bush given that the passing game still needs work.
Hue Jackson should be able to leverage both of these guys well…at least hopefully
February 16th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Al’s getting it done. Good off season moves. Reminds me of 2008. It’s just too bad we only finished 5-11 that year. Just seems like the harder Al tries, the harder he fails. Hopefully things change this year.
February 16th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Regarding Bush and Miller; I don’t think we can afford to let either player get away.
Although I’m not crazy about the WR situation here, I do believe that Al and Hue Jackson believe in the youngsters. The rest of Campbell’s supporting cast is pretty darned good, and I really don’t think we want to spend any high draft choices replacing a really good back and a really good TE when there is an obvious need (and a reference to it, albeit a veiled one by Hue Jackson) to address the offensive line.
My guess is that Al figures out a way to keep both Miller and Bush (and Huff). Nnamdi, I’m not so sure; he really can’t win a bidding war for him without compromising the rest of the team. He will have to hope that Nnamdi wants to be a Raider no matter what.
February 16th, 2011 at 9:43 pm
No problem SnB if anyone has been paying any attention DMC wears down late in the year and gets dinged if you keep him fresh he is lethal. Bush gives you that ability to keep DMC fresh and strong. Early in the year he ran as if his life depended on it. Late in the year he was avoiding hits. Great coaches will take these two and punsih the league with them. There is no way to acct. for both when they are both on the field.
You devise a gameplan which allows you to do that make the defense defend DMC whereever he goes while you hit them with Bush up the gut they can both catch and run. JUST USE THEM!!
February 16th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
The common theme thus far is that Rod Woodson was brought in to encourage Nnamdi to stay. I have a different view; that Al realizes that he may very well lose Nnamdi and he wants somebody in here that can get the other guys to play at a high level in case he does.
Priest, I agree with your comments about having Bush and Mcfadden in the game at the same time. I posted in here last year after Jackson was hired that I hoped that he could find a way to make that happen. He didn’t get that done, and that’s only part of the reason I’m not yet sold on the guy as our head coach. Maybe Saunders can help in that regard, because it really needs to happen.
February 16th, 2011 at 10:08 pm
ET Word my man!!
February 16th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
If we want to have a dominant offense next year it will be directly due to the running game. We need BOTH DMac & Bush. Yes, I liked Rankin a couple of years ago but the thunder & lightning we need is our current duo. I believe our new OC will find a way to capitalize on both their abilities. We must find a way to keep Bush. If DMac goes down due to injury, Bush can carry the load with very little loss of impact. They are different types of runners but that’s a good thing.
February 16th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
You see what this Raider running game can do WITHOUT a good passing game to complement it. Imagine what this offense could do WITH a good passing game to loosen things up?
Pretty good I would guess.
February 16th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Only 18 more weeks until the first pre-season game.
February 16th, 2011 at 11:19 pm
All we can do, is hope Davis doesn’t impose his ego over team success.
February 16th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Agreed, Kell. It’s just this whole thing with Al making moves, so to speak. We’ve seen this before. At this time 3 years ago, my goodness, you’d think Al Davis just got inducted to the hall of fame a second time. Nothing but praise for his big free agent spending spree. Naysayers were met with responses like, “If you can’t see the improvement, something must be wrong with you”. The company line was that everything was fine between Al and then head coach Lane Kiffin, and the Raiders were about to take the field with one of their best rosters since 2002. Then came Monday Night against Denver. All over. By week 4, Kiffin is fired, Davis confirming there was a rift all along, something the team had denied early in 2008. It’s just hard to buy in. But we’ll see. They play the games for a reason.
February 17th, 2011 at 12:09 am
Is it possible for Nnamdi to be signed or does the new CBA have to take effect first??
February 17th, 2011 at 12:27 am
187.djohnnyg Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Only 18 more weeks until the first pre-season game.
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Can’t wait.
In Al we trust!
February 17th, 2011 at 12:28 am
Nnamdi can sign with us now.
February 17th, 2011 at 12:41 am
Virgil Green TE Nevada Hmmmm
February 17th, 2011 at 3:51 am
I read an interesting piece about how 1/3 of all Americans was basically illiterate(their words) when it comes to finance/economics 101…
an example was that if you had 100dollars in the bank for 5 years with an interest on 2%, what would that number be after 5 years… only 65% could answer that..
in 1981, The U.S. personal savings rate, was about 11%, it has fallen to near zero, as of 2008.
It says, that the economic downturn, is as much the banks, the wallstreets fault as it is the Americans own, the American people had this coming, even without wallstreet or the banks demise…
based on research of some of the best professors on the matter, among others Annamaria Lusardi of Dartmouth
VERY interesting stuff..
February 17th, 2011 at 4:32 am
Davis may think it more prudent to bring back both Stanford Routt and Michael Huff plus another player or two rather than sink huge money into Asomugha.
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Raider Nation:
take your pick (you cant have both!)
#1 Nnamdi Asomugha
#2 Wimbley, Huff & Routt
February 17th, 2011 at 4:35 am
Davis may think it more prudent to bring back both Stanford Routt and Michael Huff plus another player or two rather than sink huge money into Asomugha.
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Raider Nation:
take your pick (you cant have both!)
#1 Nnamdi Asomugha
#2 Bush, Reece & Miller
February 17th, 2011 at 4:39 am
I guess you can’t “build a bully” without including Richard Seymour …
did you see what he did to Ryan Clady & Big Ben the last 2 seasons?
pretty funny that a devout Christian is one of the NFL’s dirtiest players
and now the Wiz is back. next up?
trade for Hines Ward!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:41 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:51 am
in 1981, The U.S. personal savings rate, was about 11%, it has fallen to near zero, as of 2008.
It says, that the economic downturn, is as much the banks, the wallstreets fault as it is the Americans own, the American people had this coming, even without wallstreet or the banks demise…
based on research of some of the best professors on the matter, among others Annamaria Lusardi of Dartmouth
VERY interesting stuff..
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The problem, or solution is, the rate of inflation:salary scale
How many people here can say their grandfather worked while granny stayed home? Probably most.
And your parents? Not so much.
2011? How many stay at home mom’s who rely on Daddy’s pay checks are there today? Unfortunately most of them are check collectors reproducing to raise their own income.
Good morning
February 17th, 2011 at 4:48 am
djohnnyg Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Only 18 more weeks until the first pre-season game.
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Better check your math, 18 weeks would bring you into the end of June.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:25 am
We all know who we would like back so who would you let walk? My choices:
1) Chris Johnson- Looked good in ‘09 thanks to D.Hall & a contract year. Good-bye.
2) Hiram Eugene- Slight upgrade from Stu, thanks for your time, meet Stevie Brown (If Huff is resigned)
3) JLH- Thanks for your time and good luck in St. Louis or where ever you end up.
4) Sam Williams- Good work on ST’s for 7 years, and the odd goaline stand, now beat it for someone that can challenge to start.
5) Bruce Gradkowski- Thank you for your hard work and come back wins. What’s that, you’ll stay as a back up? OK, your on the fence.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:34 am
It says, that the economic downturn, is as much the banks, the wallstreets fault as it is the Americans own, the American people had this coming, even without wallstreet or the banks demise…
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If it doesn’t place the blame soley on W. Bush, than our media and current administration will have nothing to do with it.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:40 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:39 am
I guess you can’t “build a bully” without including Richard Seymour …
did you see what he did to Ryan Clady & Big Ben the last 2 seasons?
pretty funny that a devout Christian is one of the NFL’s dirtiest players
and now the Wiz is back. next up?
trade for Hines Ward!
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Wow. Your anti-Raider rhetoric is getting as bad as RMRs. Your mad at Seymour for cold-cocking a crap talking rapist (you call Ben a rapist regularly). Seriously? Have you ever watched a raiders game from the 70s?
You are right though… Seymour should just carry his Bible onto the field and try and get those Olineman to read scriptures instead of protecting the QB.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:41 am
I’ll piggy-back off your 5 Agent Dillon, and add my two cents:
1) CJ37 – Still probably our best nickle, slot cover guy, but he makes way too much money for a nickle, slot cover guy. Take a paycut or take a hike. (The guy does have 3 INT’s against the Chargers the last couple of years, so I would welcome him back if restructured).
2)Hiram Eugene- Why he is even still around? Stevie Brown can replace him as our 3rd or 4th safety and ST players.
3)JLH – Time for him to pack up his dance party and kick rocks. Worthless ST player to boot.
4)Sam Williams- I think he will be a Raider for another 5 years, and I hope so. Real good ST player, real good locker room guy, and can always pay him the league minimum.
5) Bruce- No other Raider player has been out doing more Raiders PR stuff than him since the season ended, which is strange to me. I wouldn’t bring him back, but I think Hue will bring him back on a one-year deal as a defined backup, and a mentor to the rookie QB we draft.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:44 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:51 am
I read an interesting piece about how 1/3 of all Americans was basically illiterate(their words) when it comes to finance/economics 101…
an example was that if you had 100dollars in the bank for 5 years with an interest on 2%, what would that number be after 5 years… only 65% could answer that..
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Im probably in the 35% but is the answer $110.40?
February 17th, 2011 at 5:47 am
Good Morning Nation!
Was looking at my phone when I was walking up to work…first thing that caught my attention was a tweet from Schefter saying RIP … a great father, husband, friend @LarryFitzgerald…
I went…WHAT? looked at it again…it was a ReTweet!
Whew…not that I knew him or anything, just something that caught my eye…at 5 AM!
February 17th, 2011 at 5:49 am
I would be SHOCKED if 65% of our country knew how to calculate compounding interest.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:49 am
Bcz24…that depends if the interest is compound…oh well, not doing math this early…lol
February 17th, 2011 at 5:58 am
Well if its not compounding then its just $110… don’t scam me out of my 40 cents man!
February 17th, 2011 at 5:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 5:47 am
Good Morning Nation!
Was looking at my phone when I was walking up to work…first thing that caught my attention was a tweet from Schefter saying RIP … a great father, husband, friend @LarryFitzgerald…
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I did the SAME thing! I was like WHATTTTTT!!!!!
February 17th, 2011 at 6:05 am
My savings account is my student loans… and my 401k, but that doesnt count.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:05 am
JFB,
CJ gives up the big play WAAAAAAY to often. I would much rather give some scratch to Champ Bailey or even stick with Routt, Ware & Walter(assuming Asomugha comes back) than keep CJ at a reduced number.
Sam “Scholarship” Williams, he does do a good job on ST and like I said he can chip in on the goaline vs. the run. OK, it’s him or Ricky Brown, but one of ‘em has to go!
February 17th, 2011 at 6:05 am
Well, I guess Happy Birthday to Jim Brown and Michael Jordan!
February 17th, 2011 at 6:08 am
My savings account is my student loans… and my 401k, but that doesnt count.
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If you haven’t done so already, you should add the 2% FICA tax reduction we all got this year, to your 401K contributions.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Ricky Brown and Sam Williams should be duking it out for the 53rd spot on the roster.
If Sam Williams is your 53rd player on the roster, there is no harm in that.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:11 am
If you haven’t done so already, you should add the 2% FICA tax reduction we all got this year, to your 401K contributions.
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Hmmm. I wasn’t aware of that. Thanks.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am
anyone here this morning?
February 17th, 2011 at 6:33 am
HEY HWNRDR..
February 17th, 2011 at 6:37 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:41 am
The problem, or solution is, the rate of inflation:salary scale
How many people here can say their grandfather worked while granny stayed home? Probably most.
And your parents? Not so much.
2011? How many stay at home mom’s who rely on Daddy’s pay checks are there today? Unfortunately most of them are check collectors reproducing to raise their own income.
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in my parts of the woods, the Check died in the mid-90’s..
problem has nothing to do with more women on the market, the problem is people doesnt understand, how credit, interests and loans work… but true enough, those who doesnt understand pay with invalid checks.. or take a loan with higher interest to pay for another loan which is due, but has lower interest rates..
those who take a credit card, with ie 5000 dollars free use.. but never thinks about what those 5000 dollars will cost in the end… most likely 12K…
thats the biggest reason to the downturn.. people got stupid, and stup1d people does stup1d things, and when there is too many of them, they usually take down those who arent stup1d… the wallstreet and the banks are just a symptom, the people is the cause…
the cure? higher education!…scratch that, better education, but that will first help the situation 10-15years out in the future!
February 17th, 2011 at 6:42 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…
LMN, Carl Weathers, JFB, Bcz24
February 17th, 2011 at 6:43 am
have a nice day guys, im going shopping for some groceries for dinner!
February 17th, 2011 at 6:44 am
Hey Hwnrdr =)
February 17th, 2011 at 6:45 am
Ok, guys if we’re talking about interest, bank loans, inflation…just plain money…
Robert Kiyosaki wrote a darn good book titled “Rich Dad, Poor Dad” on how most Americans are NOT educated on how money works! If you haven’t done so…read it! Really good book!
February 17th, 2011 at 6:48 am
GOOD DAY LMN,WELL SAID.COMMON SENSE GOES A LONG WAY’S AS DOES EDUCATION.BEING DEBT FREE IS VERY IMPORTANT RITE NOW..
February 17th, 2011 at 6:50 am
And LMN did have a point there! Stupid people does stupid things and tend to bring some others with them!
February 17th, 2011 at 7:00 am
134.priesttj Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
DMC would be bringing up the rear had Bush not gotten hurt in camp. He beat DMC out in camp and broke his hand Jhill. I like both backs equally I’m just morew of a big back kinda guy. And Bush is the best this league has to offer…………..period
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Delusional.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:03 am
Great to have Seymour back, the guy was expensive but well worth it, specially since he’ll receive the money our 1st round pick would have gotten.
I mean, Julius Peppers and Albert Haynesworth got paid just as much, if not more and they are not as complete or versatile and don’t come close in terms of leadership and attitude.
Also, the Derrick Burguess trade turned into a huge hit, since the 3rd round pick we obtained was used to get Kamerion Wimbley and his 9 sacks.
So, looking back, we traded Burguess and a 1st round pick, for Richard Seymour and Kam Wimbley.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Pretty darn good if you ask me…
Good Morning Marley, Dakota!
Dakota…what the heck is going on with The Lakes?
February 17th, 2011 at 7:09 am
And Bush is the best this league has to offer…………..period
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I like Bush…as a backup. Guess we’ll see if BHP is right. When Bush is made the highest paid RB in the NFL next year I guess he will have the last laugh. lol
Then again, BHP thought Cable was the next Madden, that Fargas was elite, and he still probably thinks Russell is the most talented QB on Earth.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:12 am
227.hwnrdr Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 7:08 am
Pretty darn good if you ask me…
Good Morning Marley, Dakota!
Dakota…what the heck is going on with The Lakes?
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The end is here. Kobe is turning into Allen Iverson at the end of his career. The players are no longer taking Phil seriously. The offseason pickups have all been busts. Artest is getting goofy.
I am just going to sit back, cross my fingers and hope Kobe can somehow get one last run out of his aging body. Otherwise just enjoy the end. It had to come sometime. And as Lakers’ fans, just remember that we will eventually be on top again. Dwight Howard will look good in purple and gold in a year or two.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:21 am
thats the biggest reason to the downturn.. people got stupid, and stup1d people does stup1d things, and when there is too many of them, they usually take down those who arent stup1d… the wallstreet and the banks are just a symptom, the people is the cause…
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The banks and wallstreet, due to loose government regulations, were allowed to prey on the stupid people. Stupid people who are not economically qualified for a loan, credit card, mortgage, should not have been able to get them. American greed from the highest position to the lowest put us in that position.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:23 am
Hey, I endured that long stretch between 91 (even though we lost to MJ and Pip) through 2000…I can do it again! At least that is my only team that has won Championships and 5 in the last 10 years …
Oh well…Dwight Howard? Hmmm…
February 17th, 2011 at 7:42 am
231.hwnrdr Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 7:23 am
Hey, I endured that long stretch between 91 (even though we lost to MJ and Pip) through 2000…I can do it again! At least that is my only team that has won Championships and 5 in the last 10 years …
Oh well…Dwight Howard? Hmmm…
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Really those years before Shaq and Kobe were not so bad. Had the one year where we missed the playoffs….the second year after Magic retired, and then we got Eddie Jones. Vlade, Eldon, Eddie, VanExcel, Ceballos, lynch….kinda fun to watch.
To this day I still wish we had held on to Eddie, Nick and Eldon when Phil Jackson came on board. I think he would have made that lineup work.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:43 am
ko-me has always been me first, he is just starting to lose a bit of quicks…..
February 17th, 2011 at 7:47 am
Good Morning Nation!
Jerry McDonald of the Oakland Tribune is “not so sure” that the Raiders will be franchise tagging free agent TE Zach Miller.
Wednesday’s Richard Seymour extension opened up this possibility, but McDonald is “not sure the Raiders are eager to pay (Miller) $7.3 million.” They’d certainly have a bigger budget if they hadn’t overpaid Seymour. McDonald suggests that Miller could wind up with a restricted free agent tender, costing less than half of the franchise number for tight ends.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:01 am
They were…and I swear we probbaly could have won with them…who was coach then? Rambis? Harris?
February 17th, 2011 at 8:06 am
# lefty12 Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Miller went to the Pro Bowl,albeit as an alternate.You don’t just let pro bowl players walk.You also don’t replace them as easily as some of you insinuate.We complained for years that we needed a good TE,and tried to get one.Now we have one and people act like he isn’t necessary.Sometimes this place makes absolutely no sense.
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Yeah, too many weirdos in here who have warped logic (if you can even call it that) LOL
Either they are smoking too much bud, or they are just to young and think real football is like the Madden football video game or something.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Randy Pfund, Magic Johnson, Dell Harris and Rambis, I believe, were the coaches between when Dunleavy left and when Phil took over.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am
check this BS out………………http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/17/donald-rumseld-calls-raiders-evil/
February 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/17/donald-rumseld-calls-raiders-evil/
February 17th, 2011 at 8:38 am
241. lmao
February 17th, 2011 at 8:40 am
238. ALL of this global atmosphere change kicked into high gear when Republican monopolies moved over seas to take advantage of corrupt Governments lax regulation and pollution laws.
They’ve been killing our planet along with our freedoms, privacy, jobs ect ect.
**** the real EVIL Mr. Rumsfeld.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Rummy calling the Raiders evil, Beware NFL and the world , AL and his axis of evil are going to dominate everything in the near future. You’ve been warned!!
February 17th, 2011 at 9:01 am
http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/energy-282915-power-china.html
You might find this interesting KK.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Morning peoples!
February 17th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Who the fk is Donald Rumseld?
February 17th, 2011 at 9:21 am
It’s time to wake up and smell the coffee. This is not about Democrats or Republicians.
This is about a World Government taking over. A Global Goverment and ecomony. The globalist are moving fast to change our way of life. Its time to stand up!!
February 17th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Free agent DT Marcus Stroud is recovering from postseason shoulder surgery.
Stroud indicated that he plans to pursue his free agent options once he’s 100 percent. Turning 33 in June, he could perhaps help a team as a situational 4-3 defensive tackle. Stroud was obviously out of his element as a 3-4 end.
Source: Buffalo News
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I mentioned this yesterday. Why not team him up w/ big Hendu again? They would be perfect back-ups. Sign him to a vet contract.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:26 am
248.Dakota Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Those who would have us jettison cheap, plentiful fossil fuel to chase windmills and solar panels usually point to China as the exemplar of alternative energy.
Don’t buy the con. Here are a few facts:
* In China, despite hefty preferences and subsidies, non-hydro renewables account for up less than 1 percent of the nation’s energy. It isn’t about to change, not for decades.
* China isn’t leading a green energy revolution.
* China is leading a global race for oil, natural gas, coal and nuclear power.
* Those energy sources fuel China’s growing population and economy. Not wind or solar.
While we emphasize wind turbines, solar panels, esoteric batteries, energy efficient lighting and many other non-standard technologies, we increase our dependence on China which produces about 97 percent of the rare earth minerals needed for such stuff. We, by the way, produce none of it.
Our renewable energy mandates and cap-and-trade demands increase the cost of energy, which not only makes it more exepensive for us to buy, it sends our own manufacturers overseas where the economic grass is greener, so to speak.
http://orangepunch.ocregister.com/2011/02/04/china-a-green-champion-not-exactly-much-more-oil-than-solar/40834/
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Yeah, and that is why they country is the most polluted if not one of the most polluted smog ridden countries in the world.
Did any of you see the Beijing Summer Olympics? Thats right you couldn’t see the exteriors because the smog was so thick, unhealthy and disgusting.
Dakota, are you saying the U.S. should copy what a communist nation does to turn itself around?
Please….say it aint so.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:31 am
After watching film of Jake Locker, Football Outsiders’ Doug Farrar suggests the former Washington Husky would fit best in a vertical passing offense.
Farrar doesn’t believe Locker fits a West Coast-style precision attack because of his accuracy issues. According to Farrar, Locker has a tendency to “go from truly magnificent to hide-your-eyes awful and back again in the same game — sometimes, in the same series.” Teams fitting Farrar’s criteria: Arizona, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, and potentially Miami.
Related: Bengals, Jaguars, Dolphins, Cardinals
Source: Yahoo Sports
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5th rounder???? (might be the next Andrew Walter, here)
February 17th, 2011 at 9:35 am
…………………………………i would be careful making any democratic statements on here the fat kidd got banned for being a democrat.
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Yeah… Im sure the fat kidd came in here, said “I’m a democrat” and was suddenly banned. Come on man. Use your head.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:36 am
NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi confirms that the Raiders have picked up SLB Kamerion Wimbley’s $3.5 million option for 2011.
He’s now signed through next season. Wimbley, the Raiders’ sack leader with nine last year, will return as the club’s starting strong-side linebacker in 2011.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:37 am
seymour and kelly at your starting DTs? Prepare for another disaster stopping the run…..what a joke! I am pissed. Certain players shouldnt be brought back……seymour or kelly have to go, huff and nnamdi as well
February 17th, 2011 at 9:37 am
According to SI’s Peter King, free agent Nnamdi Asomugha “wants to play elsewhere” in 2011.
Asomugha has never had the privilege of testing free agency, and going on his age-30 season this might be his last ever chance to do it. He could end up as the highest paid defensive back in football, so it’s hard to blame him. The Raiders are going to have to overhaul their secondary this offseason.
Source: Peter King on Twitter
February 17th, 2011 at 9:37 am
241.Lynn from Snot Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 8:27 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/17/donald-rumseld-calls-raiders-evil/
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A guy who is one of the most evil secretary of defense heads in U.S. history and who should be brought up on war crime charges….calling the Raiders “evil”??
hahahahahaha…LOL….Oh man….thats a nice laugh to start off the day!
What a pathetic man that Rumsfeld is.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:38 am
Get rid of everyone on the roster. Disband the entire team.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Fatt Kidd was jerry mac! he never got banned!
February 17th, 2011 at 9:39 am
I think Stroud would be a good fit , another big body to stuff the middle and good on the goal line.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:42 am
General Bauce Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Fatt Kidd was jerry mac! he never got banned!
……………….i met the fat kidd at a tailgate party his name is mike.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:42 am
258.DMAC Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 9:36 am
NFL Network’s Mike Lombardi confirms that the Raiders have picked up SLB Kamerion Wimbley’s $3.5 million option for 2011.
He’s now signed through next season. Wimbley, the Raiders’ sack leader with nine last year, will return as the club’s starting strong-side linebacker in 2011.
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Nice!
An easy decision to pick that relatively cheap option on Wimbley at 3.5 million after he had 9 sacks last season…his first year with the Raiders.
They can try work out an extension during the year next year or maybe franchise him next year.
Solid move to keep him around!
February 17th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Yeah, nice deal. Who’s next? Zac?
February 17th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Bcz….ok be sarcastic but when the team still cant get over the hump you will know why and feel the same way you did after the season ended
February 17th, 2011 at 9:45 am
Lol sure Confusion stop lying….already seen an email from Jerry to another poster with Jerry admitting as much
February 17th, 2011 at 9:46 am
Lynn…..no…..stroud is UT…..raiders need a starting NT…..we got trouble again
February 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
B,
Depth my man. depth. Team him back w/ big Hendu. Nice back-ups IMO.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:48 am
Again this is thee fourth offseason SnB and myself have screamed to get a true starter at NT not having two UTs starting……each season what has that netted the run defense? Next
February 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I hear somebody calling my name?
February 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Dmac…..hendu doesnt start but should…we dont have depth as far as run stuffers….seymour and kelly suck at stopping the run…..prepare for 25th vs the run again
February 17th, 2011 at 9:51 am
BBBBaaaaaauuuuuucccccccce!!!!!
February 17th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Since returning home to Oakland….the seasons we stopped the run there was a fat ass NT type of guy in the middle…..wondering why al being so stubborn
February 17th, 2011 at 9:53 am
The Real Ray!
February 17th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Get Kelly’s ass outta here now! Him and Seymour are UTs….draft that fat ass kid from Baylor resigned Hendu and have Desmond Bryant gain some weight as the backup UT
February 17th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Dmac….how bout them dubs?! Only four games back of 8th spot heading into all star break!
February 17th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Fatt Kidd Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I hear somebody calling my name?
………………..try again there is only one T IN FAT KIDD mr impersonator.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:59 am
B,
I blame most of our run d woes, on our man defense. Our DB’s don’t help much in the run D. Their backs are always facing towards the QB. Thats why mobile QB’s kill us. And RB’s get to the next level easy. I think we could also use an upgrade at WLB.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:59 am
The personnel on the defensive line is fine as long as the Raiders start coaching gap discipline. Or start playing more zone or leaving an LB spy behind the line. Which they won’t do.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:00 am
Even the big kid from Baylor won’t help, so long as the scheme calls for him to be freelancing, trying to get to the QB/ball carrier on every down.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:00 am
We just gave Seymour $30 million and Kelly just had his best season as a Raider. You think Al is replacing either?
February 17th, 2011 at 10:01 am
B,
Yeah, they’re playing nice ball. Monta is playing ridiculous. I still think we need a better bench. I’m through w/ Beans, also. They’ve already matched last years win total.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:01 am
If Greenway is tagged, the Vikings would risk losing fellow free agent Sidney Rice. Greenway, 28, has been the Vikes’ leading tackler three seasons running.
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I’d take either one…but prefer Greenway!
February 17th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Greenway would be a hell of a pickup! He will be in high demand if he doesnt get tagged.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Both Greenway and Rice will command more money than the Raiders will pay. Unless they let Bush, Huff, and Asomugha all walk.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Fatt Kidd Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I hear somebody calling my name?
……………………….is that you mistabrown trying too impersonate the fat kidd?
February 17th, 2011 at 10:07 am
Al do the right things this offseason to completion and we can have a deep January run! Sign Chad as the #1 wr….sign Champ to be our FS…..send Kelly away…..resign Hendu draft the Baylor kid…..find a WLB…..get two reliable vet cbs fk nnamdi…..find another DE…….start veldheer and mario at Tackle spots revamped middle of OL……….find a real FB…….bring Bush back as well as Zach………draft a 4 yr college Qb
February 17th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Bauce, check out this late (projected) 5th rounder!
Robert Sands FS West Virginia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0o1xMWqCow
February 17th, 2011 at 10:11 am
YA wrong……Hendu never freelanced last year….Seymour and KELLY DO! A true run stuffer stays home and kid from Baylor is…….yes the dline has a major hole in it but last year’s run defense impressed you lol
February 17th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Thats an awful long wish list Bauce… you are definitely setting yourself up for disappointment.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Bcz….no Al wont replace them becuz he is stubborn and again it will bite us in the ass
February 17th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Our run defense is maddening. We will hold a guy to 2 yards per carry all day and then bang… 74 yard TD run. They have to figure out what causes those 12-15 let downs per season and fix that.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Running an occasional zone will help our run D.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Bcz no its not a long list at all considering how many FA we have….oh ill be disappointed for sure cuz chaz is coming back as is huff and numbdik and prolly that homo carlisle
February 17th, 2011 at 10:14 am
We get no help form our DB’s in our run D, because we run too much man D.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Dmac…..biedrins is trash….d league material
February 17th, 2011 at 10:15 am
WE need 2 start Udoh.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Great defender, but doesn’t rebound 2 well.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Bcz and dmac….how long will we hear those same excuses? Havent u noticed we havent had a good run stuffer since Sam Adams?
February 17th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Udoh can do no worse than Beidrins
February 17th, 2011 at 10:18 am
I hated chuck bresnahan but at least his defenses had fat ass NTs starting
February 17th, 2011 at 10:18 am
YA wrong……Hendu never freelanced last year….Seymour and KELLY DO! A true run stuffer stays home and kid from Baylor is…….yes the dline has a major hole in it but last year’s run defense impressed you lol
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That’s because they only rotated Henderson in on obvious running downs.
In the Indy game the run defense struggled again, and that was with Henderson starting.
The Raiders need to teach gap discipline. They need their linemen to occupy blockers so their linebackers can come in and clean up. This is how every good run defense operates. Unfortunately, the Raiders are determined to leave their linebackers in man coverage, so the defensive linemen have to all be rushing the passer.
The lack of gap discipline is the reason why good cutback runners have a field day against the defense. Remember the Jacksonville game? The runner gets around the defensive linemen, cuts back upfield, and he’s gone.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:18 am
B,
I know your not very high on Monta. But keep it real. Don’t you think he should of been selected to the All-star game? He just abused Dwill last night. He’s straight ballin.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:20 am
B,
Who? this dude?
http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/samueladamslager11.jpg
February 17th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Damn, its raining hella hard.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Warren moon =QB coach
February 17th, 2011 at 10:23 am
I do think Champ would be a fantastic FS.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Jay Schraoder = QB coach
February 17th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Don’t think Champ wants to play FS.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:25 am
DMAC Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Damn, its raining hella hard.
…………..its not raining its a beautiful sunny day
February 17th, 2011 at 10:26 am
DMAC Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 10:20 am
B,
Who? this dude?
http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/samueladamslager11.jpg
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Steven Seagal???
February 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am
DMAC Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Running an occasional zone will help our run D.
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It didnt the first 5 games last season… and it hurt our pass defense because our secondary sucked at it.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am
YA,
Champ said a few years back, that he would be willing to switch to FS in the future.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Don’t think Champ wants to play FS.
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Champ is on record as saying he wants to make the switch to FS to prolong his career.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:29 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 10:27 am
DMAC Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Running an occasional zone will help our run D.
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It didnt the first 5 games last season… and it hurt our pass defense because our secondary sucked at it.
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Becausee our Secondary doesn’t know how to run a proper zone, w/ the exception of Nnamdi. everytime we tried it we got burnt. That’s part of the reason Rod is here. IMO
February 17th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Draft Robert Sands FS in the 5th RD. from WV!!
Problem solved!
February 17th, 2011 at 10:31 am
New post fellas
February 17th, 2011 at 10:32 am
DMAC????? NEW POST???
February 17th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Udoh is our best defensive player.
And how about those big minutes Jeremy Lin tossd in last night?
Last night was a game we don’t win with Nellie as the coach. Keith Smart used his bench beautifully.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:36 am
r8eray Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Draft Robert Sands FS in the 5th RD. from WV!!
Problem solved
…no he hits too hard he is going too hurt someone tabbed the BIG EAST’s “Hardest Hitter” by The Sporting News
February 17th, 2011 at 10:42 am
i think namdi wants to be a raider.while at the pro when he was asked what logo to put on his helmet since he didnt have a team ,wasnt under contract with anyone ,he said im a raider and ill represent the raiders ,he wanted no part in just the afc logo.and for all the al davis haters seems like a lot of players want to be here along with former players wanting to coach here .it seems like disgruntled former employees that talk all the b s
February 17th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Namdi wants to be a Raider because no one expects him to tackle running backs here.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am
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February 18th, 2011 at 11:38 am
“The Raiders will get two more years to develop Lamarr Houston before he settles into the three-technique tackle currently manned by Seymour.”
That being said, don’t be surprised if the Raiders draft DE Allen Bailey from Miami: http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/DE/Allen-Bailey.php
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