Raiders make Seymour signing official
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, February 17th, 2011 at 12:48 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders put a bow on the Richard Seymour story by announcing his signing on their Web site Thursday.
“This is a positive for the Raiders and his re-signing was something that the organization knew would be in play when making the move several years ago,” said Raiders coach Hue Jackson in a statement. “Richard is an important part of our team and he continues to be highly productive and a major contributor both on and off the field.”
Several years?
Said Seymour in a statement: “I’m thrilled to be with the Silver and Black, a team that has a bright future. As I mentioned many times before, I see myself retiring a Raider.”
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February 17th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Cool, now lock up #21.
February 17th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Holla 1st
February 17th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
2slow
February 17th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Lol Confusion400…u are right Kell has no friends
February 17th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Lock nnamdi out…dont allow him back in oakland for no more than 10 mill
February 17th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Brien, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to insult Republicans.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Yeah jerry several years…i guess Al been wanting seymour
February 17th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Thanks, Jerry!
repost re the lockout:
The Players need to last 6 months.
Whatever payments the Owners get in TV revenue before the pre-season starts will be subject to refund as soon as games start to be missed. There aren’t too many Owners/teams that can survive without that TV money coming in.
The #1 reason the CBA will get done: Jerry Jones and his concrete monument.
The #2 reason: Teams like the Raiders, that need the money just slightly less than Jerry do right now.
Owners won’t feel the pinch for awhile. If the Players make it until at least half of the Owners are feeling the pinch, the League’s finances will be in a shambles — and a few franchises might be in trouble, just trying to keep up with their mounting debts. Even selling rights to (two?) new franchises won’t be able to save them all. They need a constant revenue stream to survive.
The deal needs to get done far sooner than the Owners having to pay back TV money.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Lol apology would be accepted MR IF I WAS A REP…..but dems cry too much for me….fact is you used Rummy’s comment as a blanket to label Republicans elite hate us….im sure Dem elites aint feeling us either then
February 17th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Willie Brown former mayor of SF is a dem elite for sure he hates Raiders so hey they ya go u liberal wimp….now go campaign for prop 8
February 17th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Every post by GayesDaze screams effeminate doesnt it?
February 17th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Here is what is on the menu (Free Agents)
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e58b27/article/cba-or-no-cba-teams-still-preparing-for-freeagency-market?module=HP_cp2
February 17th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Whats even more hilarious is how MR finally admitted to his faux love affair with the Sac cheerleader after denying it for so long………..MR YOU ARE A CLASSIC
February 17th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Anyhow rainy day in the bay but its thursday….start the weekend off right like a Bauce….a fawkin Bauce! Just Win….check ya cats later
February 17th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
All Politicians = Elite = Globalist = Hate Commoners, better know as the sheepel….
Repubs, and Demo argument serves to distract you as to what the globalist are really up to….
February 17th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Thanks, Jerry!
repost re the lockout:
The Players need to last 6 months.
Whatever payments the Owners get in TV revenue before the pre-season starts will be subject to refund as soon as games start to be missed. There aren’t too many Owners/teams that can survive without that TV money coming in.
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Sure about that?
“The NFL begins its playoffs this weekend, but the most intriguing action may be occurring behind closed doors. After the football season ends, the collective bargaining agreement between the players and owners is set to expire, and without any new contract, it’s expected that the NFL will lock out its players and there won’t be any games to broadcast.
As much as the prospect of no football may hurt both owners and players, it’s TV networks that might be the real victims in the dispute.
That’s because ESPN, NBC, CBS, Fox and DirecTV have agreed to fork over an estimated $4 billion regardless of whether football is played or not.
How do we know this?
Yesterday the players union pressed a grievance that the league made an underhanded deal with these TV networks. In return for accepting less from networks for rights to games, the NFLPA charges that the league got a guarantee it would be paid in 2011 no matter the lockout situation. The NFLPA characterizes the deal as “lockout protection” and compares it to “insurance,” alleging that the NFL breached its fiduciary duties under the prior collective bargaining agreement.”
February 17th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
confucius400 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
da trinity Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
I’m a youth minister so I do understand the word of GOD which is the bible FYI. And don’t hate on Christians, hate Jesus Christ. Were just simply following his teaching. Hell wasn’t made for humans, it was made for satin and his angels. But Adam disobeyed GOD and ate of the tree God told him not to eat of. And because of this all mankind was and continues to be separated from God. Kind of like a crack baby, the baby didn’t choose to be addicted to crack, but because of the parents failure the child has to pay the price to. But now because of Jesus death on the cross and resurrection from the dead those who believe in him the penalty for there sins are paid. thats what john 3:16 MEANS That because he loved mankind so much he made a way for mankind to be acceptable in his presence. Cuz God can’t except sin cuz he is always just. Understand?
…………………………….a man went too heaven and looked and saw al davis ,he spoke too st peter,i did not know al davis was here ,st peter replied no thats god he only thinks he is al davis!!!!
February 17th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Brien, again, I apologize. I’ll stop insulting Republicans. I know how angry it makes you.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Great signed for a season that may not even happen.
Both sides are greedy mofos.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
All Politicians = Elite = Globalist = Hate Commoners, better know as the sheepel….
Repubs, and Demo argument serves to distract you as to what the globalist are really up to….
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Wow, that’s original…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
BIG SEY!!
February 17th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Why Bri Bri — Because they take attention away from your nonsensical, homophobic, woman-hating, insult-filled rants?
The only one in here more offended by intelligent posts by others than you is MR…and just like your bruh MR, you just spew that hate for attention. So, you’re not much different, ya dig?
February 17th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
All Politicians = Elite = Globalist = Hate Commoners, better know as the sheepel….
Repubs, and Demo argument serves to distract you as to what the globalist are really up to….
…………..
Wow, that’s original…
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Thank you…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Hayez, when you say “ya dig”, does it raise the white hair coming out of your ears?
February 17th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I was being sarcastic, Thec. My point is that the “all politicians are the same they’re all against us” is nothing new, nor is it even true.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
republicans = wallstreet=getting their hands on your retirement money privatizing social security.the end
February 17th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I was being sarcastic, Thec. My point is that the “all politicians are the same they’re all against us” is nothing new, nor is it even true.
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sure you were…lol
February 17th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
The only master politicians serve is the almighty dollar. They don’t need to answer to us.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
HazeDaze
The TV money will come to the owners this year regardless of whether the games are played, is my understanding.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Actually they all answer to the so called yous…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
NFL, players union agree to start mediation Friday
February 17th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
All Politicians = Elite = Globalist = Hate Commoners, better know as the sheepel….
Repubs, and Demo argument serves to distract you as to what the globalist are really up to….
…………..
Wow, that’s original…
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Thank you…
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Don’t worry Thec. That’s too complex for RMR to wrap his brain around.
He actually thinks that the REAL decisions concerning future agendas and policies are made by Democrats and Republicans…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
both sides need to just meet in the middle and get the thing done…No NFL hurts both pockets…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Don’t worry Thec. That’s too complex for RMR to wrap his brain around.
He actually thinks that the REAL decisions concerning future agendas and policies are made by Democrats and Republicans…
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but of course Bro…He beleives the sham, just like BO has real control….BO does what the yous tell him.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Just like I am sure he beleives the fed reserve, post office even courts are federal….
February 17th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Dakota –
“Yesterday the players union pressed a grievance that the league made an underhanded deal with these TV networks. In return for accepting less from networks for rights to games, the NFLPA charges that the league got a guarantee it would be paid in 2011 no matter the lockout situation. The NFLPA characterizes the deal as “lockout protection” and compares it to “insurance,” alleging that the NFL breached its fiduciary duties under the prior collective bargaining agreement.”
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That would be fine and dandy for the Owners…except it’s not a fair (read: legal) way to collective-bargain. There’s no way the regulatory Labor authorities allow underhanded non-bargaining like that to occur. Even if it were allowed in the beginning (until the Court/Board stopped it), the financial damages (plus interest) from such a tactic would phenomenal.
No way does the NFL take money this year for games not played…unless those games are played later (even in different seasons), and at a discount to the networks.
That discount would mean the Players would be suffering because the Owners cut an illegal deal…when the CBA (any new one, and the old) clearly states both parties agree to bargain in good faith…and with a percentage of the total revenues as the biggest sticking point. If the Owners get paid that money…the Players will get paid their portion eventually.
IMHO, of course!
February 17th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Bill Maher Says The Secret To the NFL’s Success Is Socialism
Bill Maher
Super Bowl
by Glenn Davis | 3:26 pm, January 29th, 2011
Next Sunday, the Super Bowl will be played, and hundreds of millions around the world will watch. It will be the biggest sporting event of the year, the showcase event for America’s most popular sport. How does the NFL achieve such runaway success year after year? Comedian Bill Maher thinks he has the answer: socialism.
Maher posted this view in a HuffPo column yesterday, and repeated his position on his HBO show, Real Time, last night. His reasoning:
[F]ootball is built on an economic model of fairness and opportunity, and baseball is built on a model where the rich almost always win and the poor usually have no chance.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
The sheep won’t learn until it’s too late…
They don’t realize that behind the song and dance charade that the dems and repubs put on for us, they actually are cut from the same cloth.
They share the same ideals, philosophies and values, when the cameras are off…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
The sheep won’t learn until it’s too late…
They don’t realize that behind the song and dance charade that the dems and repubs put on for us, they actually are cut from the same cloth.
They share the same ideals, philosophies and values, when the cameras are off…
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Truth Bro straight truth howeve, Its allready too late…
The Globalist have taken the gloves off, and are fighting bare knuckle…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Dems = Peace & Propserity
Repubs = War & Recession
Big Difference.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Globalist = republicans that where kicked out of the country!
February 17th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Oakland Raiders Buzz, mjumpman11. mjumpman11 said: “@raidersbuzztap: Inside the Oakland Raiders >> Raiders make Seymour signing official http://buzztap.com/-Kj6Rbr” [...]
February 17th, 2011 at 1:31 pm
It’s the un-educated who believe everything is beyond their grasp, and the weird conspiracy theories.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
The sheep won’t learn until it’s too late…
They don’t realize that behind the song and dance charade that the dems and repubs put on for us, they actually are cut from the same cloth.
They share the same ideals, philosophies and values, when the cameras are off…
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Have a bit more faith in your fellow man.. believe it or not, not all those in Government want to ruin the USA.. that thinking is just one of the three sheeple, dem, repub and the anti establishment.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
RMR and Kool Kell = Happy slaves.
When good massa democrat says jump they say, “Yessuh,How high boss”!
February 17th, 2011 at 1:33 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Dems = Peace & Propserity
Repubs = War & Recession
Big Difference.
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You forgot..
KoolKell = Biased -n- ignorant
February 17th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
In an ESPN article on Top 10 AFC North FAs:
3. Johnathan Joseph, cornerback, Cincinnati Bengals
Joseph will be an expensive investment if the Bengals choose to keep the young cornerback.
Analysis: Last summer the AFC North blog reported that the Bengals opened negotiations with Joseph. That shows the willingness by Cincinnati. But the fact that, months later, nothing has happened tells me the two sides can’t agree on money and/or the length of the contract. Good cornerbacks are expensive. So I wouldn’t be totally surprised if the Bengals let go of Joseph, who is 26 and entering his prime. A franchise tag for one year at cornerback would be extremely costly, as well. Also keep in mind that Adam Jones, who showed flashes last season before a neck injury ended his season, signed to a two-year deal and will be back in 2011. Jones is insurance in case Joseph leaves. Joseph will get plenty of interest if he hits the open market.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
It’s the un-educated who believe everything is beyond their grasp, and the weird conspiracy theories, voodoo, withcraft & schitt
February 17th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
RMR and Kool Kell = Happy slaves.
When good massa democrat says jump
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hahahahahahahahah….Truth….
February 17th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Not ALL politicians are bad, or evil…
Unfortunately they are NOT the true decision makers. The true decision makers are of both Democrat and Republican affiliations, and have globalist and population control agendas for those they consider to be expendable.
The political party charade is all a charade to keep us didtracted…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Expect a lot of defensive ends taken in deep first round
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 17, 2011, 2:08 PM EST
With our first mock draft posted, we are starting to wrap our minds around the 2011 draft class here at PFT. With a little help from NFL Network’s Mike Mayock.
Mayock held a media conference call on Thursday, and we’ll be posting some of the interesting nuggets throughout the day.
Let’s start with some notes on how this draft looks as a whole. Mayock says it’s the best defensive end class he can remember, and eight players have first round grades from him.
Mayock also says he believes this class has a deeper first round than in recent years. That’s an impressive statement considering how deep last year’s draft was as a whole, but Mayock believes this one loaded with more true first-rounders.
(Mayock’s opinion was in direct contrast to ESPN’s Todd McShay, who said Wednesday he only had only 23-24 first-round grades. So McShay saw this year as a shallow first round. Hmm.)
Add it all up, and this is a good year to be looking for a pass rusher or five technique defensive ends and have picks late in the first round. The Patriots, then, should be smiling with the No. 17, No. 28, and No.33 overall picks.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
We got into this before “Blog personality” and you neve answered my question on who owns the “federal reserve”
If you cant answer that basicc question proves your ingnorance to national and world events…No voodo bruh just facts…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Money = power. No conspiracy theory there.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
confucius400 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Expect a lot of defensive ends taken in deep first round
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 17, 2011, 2:08 PM EST
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Lots of good defensive ends means that good offensive linemen are an even more valuable commodity. We are lacking in this department. We must improve our offensive line.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
We got into this before “Blog personality” and you neve answered my question on who owns the “federal reserve”
A=alan greenspan of course
February 17th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Money = power. No conspiracy theory there.
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what is money? paper fiat currency?
February 17th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Kell, do you have any real money?
February 17th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
—”CSN Bay Area’s Paul Gutierrez suggests the Raiders could end up franchising LG Robert Gallery instead of Zach Miller. Gutierrez is basing the theory on the assumption that Miller, with four years experience, will be a restricted free agent under the new CBA. It’s quite possible that four year players will end up unrestricted. Gallery would earn roughly $10.1 million under the tag, a raise of more than $4 million”—
this would be funny as shidt! – or tragic =) always one small step forward, and tow giant steps back =)
February 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
gallery was on record with bush as saying they were out with the wacking of cable…So F him….
February 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
@Thec07
Who owns the Supreme Court?
February 17th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
@Thec07
Who owns the Supreme Court?
Republican National Lawyers Association
February 17th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
@Thec07
Who owns the Supreme Court?
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Thats a very good question, I am nt sure about the supreme curt however, the superior court is owned by a company out of belgium…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I’m gonna share one gem of knowledge for you sheep. I’m sure Thec and Brien are already aware of this…
Look up Presidential Executive order 11110. President John F Kennedy signed this little publicized Executive Order on June 4, 1963. 10 days later he was assassinated.
If you don’t know anything about this, please don’t argue about politics ever again.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
confucius400 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:46 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
@Thec07
Who owns the Supreme Court?
Republican National Lawyers Association
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My guess would be the Inn Trust
February 17th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
All Politicians = Elite = Globalist = Hate Commoners, better know as the sheepel….
Repubs, and Demo argument serves to distract you as to what the globalist are really up to….
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hmm, okaaaay!? what does a globalist means to you, because I see myself as a globalist :/
February 17th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I’m gonna share one gem of knowledge for you sheep. I’m sure Thec and Brien are already aware of this…
Look up Presidential Executive order 11110. President John F Kennedy signed this little publicized Executive Order on June 4, 1963. 10 days later he was assassinated.
If you don’t know anything about this, please don’t argue about politics ever again.
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KABOOM….hahahahahahaha…..
February 17th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
The Supreme Court Justices are nominated by the President, who is elected by way of campaign donations from the wealthiest, most powerful entities in the country.
The Supreme Court recently decided that corporations can donate any amount of money they see fit to political campaigns. Their “vote” is more powerful than ours.
Bank of America was a huge donor to pretty much every candidate in the race, including BO and Hilary.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
La Milicia Negra Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
All Politicians = Elite = Globalist = Hate Commoners, better know as the sheepel….
Repubs, and Demo argument serves to distract you as to what the globalist are really up to….
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hmm, okaaaay!? what does a globalist means to you, because I see myself as a globalist :/
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with all due respect Bro, unless you are ELITE no way possible you could be a globalist….
February 17th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
It’s the people with no “book-learnin” who believe everything is beyond their grasp, and the weird conspiracy theories & schitt.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Ghettoism’s is no substitute for book learnin!
-KoolKell.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
We don’t even choose who we elect. The two major parties choose a pool of candidates who are acceptable to them, and only then can we vote. Both parties hold huge caucuses to decide who to throw all their money behind. And the mainstream media keeps the spotlight on them and off other political parties, and off of Dem and Republican candidates who don’t tow the party line enough.
February 17th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Trailer-park conventional wisdom’s, is no substitute for a formal edumacation!
-KoolKell
February 17th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
toe*
February 17th, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Don’t see Huff on the free agent list…
February 17th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Presidential Executive order 11110=Kool-aid will not be served at any white house dinners.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
I’m gonna share one gem of knowledge for you sheep. I’m sure Thec and Brien are already aware of this…
Look up Presidential Executive order 11110. President John F Kennedy signed this little publicized Executive Order on June 4, 1963. 10 days later he was assassinated.
If you don’t know anything about this, please don’t argue about politics ever again.
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Died 5 months later.. but who’s counting
February 17th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
He actually thinks that the REAL decisions concerning future agendas and policies are made by Democrats and Republicans…
………
No, I don’t. I just don’t rest on the “all politicians are crooked, they’re all against us” argument as a convenient way out of any political discussion. Just so happens I’m smart enough to argue the differences between Democrats and Republicans, because there are several profound ones, aside from their similarities.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Ummm… Ron Paul???
But seriously, this has gotten a little ridiculous. Later Nation.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
alan greenspan was in the grassy knoll?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:05 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
both sides need to just meet in the middle and get the thing done…No NFL hurts both pockets…
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What do you suggest the owners should compromise, to meet labor in the middle?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Yes…the football season must really be over. There’s at least 10% less football talk going on in here than normal.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:03 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
He actually thinks that the REAL decisions concerning future agendas and policies are made by Democrats and Republicans…
………
No, I don’t. I just don’t rest on the “all politicians are crooked, they’re all against us” argument as a convenient way out of any political discussion. Just so happens I’m smart enough to argue the differences between Democrats and Republicans, because there are several profound ones, aside from their similarities.
…………….i am having trouble with your statement (I”M SMART ENOUGH)
February 17th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Is it bad that someone tells others not to speak on Government / policy issues when they say the distance between June 4, 1963 and Nov 22nd 1963 is 10 days? Note that Nov 22nd was a historic date… Just sayin.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
but of course Bro…He beleives the sham, just like BO has real control
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I never said the president was in “real control”, and neither did most of his voters. This is what I’m talking about. You think you’re smart by projecting views onto others that they’ve never ever expressed. Basically, you’re enlightened because you don’t think Democrats and Republicans in office make every single decision for Americans. The only problem with your self perception: Nobody thinks politicians control everything! You’re just not that smart. Sorry.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Jack Abramoff, a hardline Republican lobbyist, funneled quite a bit of money to Democratic Senator Harry Reid.
These people have no ideology. But they’re pretty good at making most Americans think they do.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
# Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Just like I am sure he beleives the fed reserve, post office even courts are federal….
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Everybody knows about the world bank, Thec. Sorry. I just don’t know what to tell you. Your views are not original.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:10 pm
As soon as the Owners (are forced to) show their book$ — to verify the pot is being split the way they say it is — an agreement shall be reached. An agreement will be reached before the Players ever get to look at the books, if the Owners are smart. Most of them are pretty smart.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
The sheep won’t learn until it’s too late…
They don’t realize that behind the song and dance charade that the dems and repubs put on for us, they actually are cut from the same cloth.
They share the same ideals, philosophies and values, when the cameras are off…
…………
So original. Yawn.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Global conspiracy! Illuminati! We didn’t land on the moon! The ice is melting! The US Gov bombed the towers!
lol
too funny
February 17th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
RMR and Kool Kell = Happy slaves.
……….
Slaves to whom? Who is our master?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Dakota
slick monkey.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Al Davis?????
February 17th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Mahlhavoc…
You won a little typographical battle, but will ultimately lose the war…
Haggling over a couple of months made you miss the whole point…
February 17th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
And Dakota the resident court jester of the blog has now arrived with his political analysis straight from Dr. Seuss.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Well…if you throw out a stat to make a point, the dates should be accurate, at least. Just sayin’
February 17th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Actually there is no moon it is projected into the sky like the bat signal .and all the money that goes too nasa is sent too the republican national committee.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Hooray neo-feudalism!
It’s funny how people react when you tell them they have no real power.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
# PurpleDrank81 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:13 pm
Al Davis?????
………….
I insult Al Davis with impunity, zero consequences. What kind of master is that?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:15 pm
And Dakota the resident court jester of the blog has now arrived with his political analysis straight from Dr. Seuss.
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LOL!! Direct hit.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Hooray neo-feudalism!
It’s funny how people react when you tell them they have no real power.
………
If Egyptians had listened to you, Mubarak will still be in charge.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
And…just knowing about that bill, and its revision of the other one, doesn’t mean the conspiracy theorie$ are true. But, it is educational.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Well…if you throw out a stat to make a point, the dates should be accurate, at least. Just sayin’
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Tee point I was making was that JFK signed a particular executive order shortly before his assassination.
Do you dispute that?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Al Davis is in charge of the Raiders.
Long live Al the GM, and long live Al the Owner!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Egyptians did what Americans don’t have the guts to do – bring violence to the streets and don’t quit until the guy in charge is out of power.
The funny thing is, income inequality is worse in the US than it is in Egypt.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Funnier still, foreign aid from the United States made Mubarek one of the richest people in the world.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:18 pm
And…just knowing about that bill, and its revision of the other one, doesn’t mean the conspiracy theorie$ are true. But, it is educational.
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The key to enlightenment is education. It doesn’t mean the “conspiracy theorists” are false either. IT does mean that there is a lot more to the truth than what CNN and the evening news channels are feeding the public.
It does mean that the only president that ever challenged the Federal reserve got assassinated shortly after wards. Chew on that.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/07/egypt/index.html
February 17th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
ArmChair — How many other things did JFK sign within 6-months of his murder? Stop hyperventilating over big rumours. Leave that to MR and KK.
There is only one Silver King…and he’s a Silver & Black one at that…
Al Davis
February 17th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Hey guys, there is this group of seven individuals who run the entire planet! No really, they are real! I swear! They are the puppet masters. They control everything through the use of their mighty yachts and private planes! They also drug us through our tap water, and they give us subliminal messages via ESPN! They have put a stop to cold fusion and cars that run on dog poop! They have agents that do their bidding….near Loch Ness and the Himalayan mountains….and at the end of rainbows!
Fear them, for they are them, and them are they!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
90.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
RMR and Kool Kell = Happy slaves.
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Slaves to whom? Who is our master?
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This blog is your master. That explains why you promptly and oftenly “check in” because you can never “check out”.
KK = Master of intellectual negativity
RMR = Slave of Als’ demons
February 17th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
The key to enlightenment is ignoring people who have all the answers yet no solutions, like Thec. I mean, am I to understand that this guy goes to Raider games, takes up the Raiders as a full time hobby…because there’s no hope for politicians, or the American people? So he finds his refuge in putting on Raiders clothes, going to Raiders games, and talking on blogs about the Raiders? That’s going to make it all better? That’s his solution?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
HayesDaze
Time for Davis’ sponge off, run along.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:27 pm
E.O. 11110
The notion that Federal Reserve Notes are especially harmful has given rise to one particular conspiracy theory relating to an executive order in 1963. According to author Jim Mars, Executive Order 11110 issued by President Kennedy on June 4, 1963 authorized the issuance of $4,292,893,815 in United States Notes. Mars further asserts that after President Kennedy’s assassination, the order was never carried out.
The claim is not borne out by the facts. First, E.O. 11110 had nothing to do with United States Notes, and did not affect any section of law referring to them. Second, E.O. 11110 did not anywhere mention any quantity of money; wherever the $4 billion-plus figure came from, it was not E.O. 11110. Third, The President had no authority to issue such an edict. Even utilizing the provisions of the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1933, the most the President could issue without statutory authorization was $3 billion.
What E.O. 11110 did was to modify previous Executive Order 10289, delegating to the Secretary of the Treasury various powers of the President. To these delegated powers, E.O. 11110 added the power to alter the supply of Silver Certificates in circulation. Executive Order 11110, therefore, did not create any new authority for the Treasury to issue notes; it only affected who could give the order, the Secretary or the President.
The reason for the move was that the President had just signed legislation repealing the Silver Purchase Act. With this repeal, the Treasury Secretary could no longer control the issue of Silver Certificates on his own authority. However, the issuance of certificates could be controlled under the President’s authority. Hence, for administrative convenience, President Kennedy issued Executive Order 11110.
Ironically, the purpose of the order and the legislation was to decrease the circulation of Silver Certificates, with Federal Reserve Notes taking their place. As economic activity grew and prices rose in the 1950s and early 1960s, the need for small-denomination currency grew at the same time that the price of silver increased. The Treasury required silver for the increasing number of Silver Certificates and coins needed for transactions. But the price of silver was rapidly approaching the point that the silver in the coins and in reserve for the certificates was worth more than the face value of the money.
To conserve on the silver needs of the Treasury, President Kennedy requested legislation needed to bring the issuance of Silver Certificates to an end and to authorize the Fed to issue small denomination notes (which it could not at that time). The Fed began issuing small denomination notes almost immediately after the legislation was passed. And in October 1964, the Treasury ceased issuing Silver Certificates altogether. If anything, E.O. 11110 enhanced Federal Reserve power and did not in any way reduce it.
http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/FRS-myth.htm
February 17th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Dakota Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Hey guys, there is this group of seven individuals who run the entire planet! No really, they are real! I swear! They are the puppet masters. They control everything through the use of their mighty yachts and private planes! They also drug us through our tap water, and they give us subliminal messages via ESPN! They have put a stop to cold fusion and cars that run on dog poop! They have agents that do their bidding….near Loch Ness and the Himalayan mountains….and at the end of rainbows!
Fear them, for they are them, and them are they!
………………..i am one of them and we dont have private planes ,they are jets
February 17th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Basically, Thec embodies the dumb ass sports fan who’s not even smart enough to grasp the basic elements of politics, not someone who’s enlightened and above the mainstream political fray. Just look at his solution.
“I put on Raider clothes, go to game, cheer for Raiders. Al is great! Raiders score touchdown!”
That’s it. That’s his solution for the countries problems.
“I go to Raider game, Raider put ball in end zone! Raider put ball in end zone!”
February 17th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topcontribs.php?Bkdn=Source&Cycle=2010
February 17th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
The key to enlightenment is ignoring people who have all the answers yet no solutions, like Thec. I mean, am I to understand that this guy goes to Raider games, takes up the Raiders as a full time hobby…because there’s no hope for politicians, or the American people? So he finds his refuge in putting on Raiders clothes, going to Raiders games, and talking on blogs about the Raiders? That’s going to make it all better? That’s his solution?
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AND…YOUR solution is to come in here and bash the Raiders, and any loyal fan of the Raiders.
That’s your solution?
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
February 17th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/search.php
February 17th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
# Dakota Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Hey guys, there is this group of seven individuals who run the entire planet! No really, they are real! I swear! They are the puppet masters. They control everything through the use of their mighty yachts and private planes! They also drug us through our tap water, and they give us subliminal messages via ESPN! They have put a stop to cold fusion and cars that run on dog poop! They have agents that do their bidding….near Loch Ness and the Himalayan mountains….and at the end of rainbows!
Fear them, for they are them, and them are they!
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Let me speak to Dakota in a language he can understand…
There’a a Wocket in my pocket…Horton hears a Hoo…The Cat In the Hat…Green Eggs and Ham…One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish Blue Fish…Hop on Pop…and How the Grinch Stole Christmas.
There Dakota is that better for you. Cause nothing else you say makes much sense.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Mahlhavoc…
You won a little typographical battle, but will ultimately lose the war…
Haggling over a couple of months made you miss the whole point…
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Don’t dismiss me.. it wasnt a typographical error, you wrote it out, albiet maybe in haste and without much thought.. this I will give you, but to then come back around to say I miss the point when I have laid out no argument whatsoever makes you equally trigger happy.
I am a constitutionalist.. it is what made us who we are but we have long since forgotten it.. it’s a shame too. Silly cell phone txting, McDonalds drive through, I want it no matter the consequences generation we have now.. well they are killing us.
Back in the 50s you could ask anyone if they would die to protect our country and they would cheerfully say yes, now it is “heck no, what has this country done for me?”
Bass ackwards.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Ryan you are badly misinformed.
Your source is a government lackey who thinks that the Federal Reserve is actually accountable to the US government. When I read that, his analysis had little credibility afterwards…
February 17th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
I’m always happy to see you talking politics on here, RMR, for two reasons:
1. I’m a liberal, so I actually agree with most of what you post on politics.
2. If you’re talking politics that means there’s nothing worth your ripping on Al Davis for lately, so things must be going well in Raiderland.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
ATTENTION DEFICIT ALERT! ATTENTION DEFICIT ALERT! ATTENTION DEFICIT ALERT!
Hayez, I clearly have solutions for the Raiders, including one ultimate solution, that one person needs to retire. I have solutions for smaller issues, too. Do I need to post my list of team needs again?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
I agree with Mahlhavoc…carhops are much better than drive-thrus.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Davy, I’m not a liberal. I’m a conservative. My values are all conservative.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
And, Davy, what problem do you have with people criticizing Al Davis? Does an owner who’s been as bad as him in recent years not deserve criticism? Do you believe Al Davis is a good GM?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Hahaha…getting to you a little bit, MR? You’re just too easy.
Yeah, you’ve got solutions for the world…so you come into a FOOTBALL blog to tell the world about them!!!
That’s so fokking funny I almost choked on my cerveza.
MR and his “solutions.”
Hahahaha
February 17th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Davy
The DC job in Oakland is just a formality anyway, yes?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Ryan!
Those are lies perpetrated by THEM! Don’t spread lies! HayesDaze37 and his friends have cracked the Kennedy assassination plot and THEY are just trying to keep it a secret! Yes, THEY were able to assassinate a president, but THEY can’t identify and eliminate Hayesdaze37 and his buddies who are spreading the truth!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
123.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
ATTENTION DEFICIT ALERT! ATTENTION DEFICIT ALERT! ATTENTION DEFICIT ALERT!
Hayez, I clearly have solutions for the Raiders, including one ultimate solution, that one person needs to retire. I have solutions for smaller issues, too. Do I need to post my list of team needs again?
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Team only has one need: a legit QB. Al is extremely hard at work putting together his 2011 package, as well as saving the NFL. He will get’er done. Al has a few tricks left up his sleeve. Don’t brush him off just yet. He has learned from his trials over the last eight years. You can tell that by just looking at him. The seven years of losing and one year of ‘we’re not losers anymore’ have taken its toll on Al. You can see it in his face. But he’s weathered the storm and come out on the other side. Raidahs will be back.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Sorry Hayesdaze…meant ArmChair GM in that last post lol.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Davy, I’m not a liberal. I’m a conservative. My values are all conservative.
…………………..i am sorry too here you are a conservative,i think thru research eventually you will be cured.so keep smiling there is hope for you!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
And, Davy, what problem do you have with people criticizing Al Davis? Does an owner who’s been as bad as him in recent years not deserve criticism? Do you believe Al Davis is a good GM?
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Al Davis has made some horrible decisions especially since 2002. Especially noteworthy have been his decisions since he released Jon Gruden.
But the past two seasons he has made stellar draft picks and overall decisions…
The fact that you can’t give him credit when he does something right is what makes you appear completely disingenuous…
February 17th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Dakota aka Dr. Seuss is coming to a Lakers blog near you folks…He will not eat Green eggs and Ham!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Only conspiracy I’m interested in…is any that would involve the NFL.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Dude
Al Davis has been to the playoffs only 7 times in the last 22 years.
3 of those appearances were with Gruden and his West Coast offense.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Go Dakota!!! Please keep enlightening us!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPy2alWEZ-U
February 17th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
KK kinda gave AL props for Seymour…kinda.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
22,000 season ticket holders.
How do you figure Davis is a good GM?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Team only has one need: a legit QB.
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Kind of hard to do that when the one person who acquires our players thinks JaMarcus Russell is a legit QB. That’s why changes need to be made a bit higher.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
the past two seasons he has made stellar draft picks and overall decisions…
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“stellar”. LOL. Don’t you think “stellar” gets you a wild card appearance?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
http://www.minnpost.com/_asset/7hf2ba/mp_main_half/JesseVentura2006_212.jpg
Keep spreading the truth Armchair!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
(Picture the late, great Sam Kinnison here)
Say it, KK…SAY IT!!! AL’s doing a GOOD JOB!!! SAY IT!!!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
By what standard is Davis doing a good job?
February 17th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
HayesDaze, why do you defend Al Davis so staunchly? Everyone here is a Raider fan, yet nobody defends the organizational decisions like you do. Why? Why do you invest so much emotion into this franchise? Do you get paid a dime? Just curious.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
140.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Team only has one need: a legit QB.
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Kind of hard to do that when the one person who acquires our players thinks JaMarcus Russell is a legit QB. That’s why changes need to be made a bit higher.
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Al knew he blew it. Knows he choked on a big one there. Thats why he dumped him at the beginning of the 2010 season and is trying to get his 9 mil back. He doesn’t want to make that mistake again.
But who knows, with the great used to be ‘farve’ working with out JC, who knows? Maybe JC will be legit and Al will shine. So the waiting game waits.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Everyone please be quiet! The FEDERAL RESERVE might be listening!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Oh, so Al’s a genius because he knows his past mistakes? Knowing your past mistakes doesn’t make you a genius. Al’s proven himself to be a certified dumbass where general management of an NFL team is concerned in the past 8 years. I don’t care if he knows his mistakes or not. He’s still a dumbass.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Stellar coaching may have gotten a Wild Card spot. Stellar play by Players across the board may have gotten a Wild Card spot.
Stellar front-office moves (we) the public hear about, such as Seymour, Wimbley, et al (and some yet to come) will help those Playoff spots come into grasp…and not just Wild Card spots.
Watch this team get built into a powerhouse…not a one-year wonder.
Keep making stellar moves, AL, the future is bright for the Raiders.
February 17th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
Everyone please be quiet! Prez O and his secret army of Acorn agents, Black Panther Party soldiers and Kenyan hit men might be listening!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
The Federal Reserve injected Jamarcus Russell with medications that cause lethargy and then framed him with the purp!
February 17th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
This is from Bush and Kerry’s own mouths….But don’t listen to them…Listen to Dakota! He doesn’t eat Green eggs and Ham! Pathetic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPy2alWEZ-U
February 17th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
Hayez, who do you invest so much time and emotion into defending the Raiders from an organizational standpoint? This blog is full of die hard Raider fans. Yet NOBODY here invests as much time and energy into defending Al Davis and Raider management as much as you. Not even priest. Why is it so important to you? What do you get out of it? What do the Raiders do for you? Just curious.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
repost
By what standard is Davis doing a good job?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
I’m loyal to “my” team…and I think AL Davis has the right to do with the team what he pleases.
I HATED a lot of moves Al made in the past…and I’m “iffy” on a few of the more recent ones…and I’ve got no problem telling anybody what I feel.
Lately…AL DAVIS IS GETTING IT DONE.
Quit yer whinin’ about me, MR…everybody knows I’m a fan…a VERY loyal fan…and I exhibit a loyalty you will never know. Not ever.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
KK — You say it was “good news” signing Richard Seymour. Does that mean someone did a “good job” getting it done?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
tick tick tick
February 17th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
148.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
Oh, so Al’s a genius because he knows his past mistakes? Knowing your past mistakes doesn’t make you a genius. Al’s proven himself to be a certified dumbass where general management of an NFL team is concerned in the past 8 years. I don’t care if he knows his mistakes or not. He’s still a dumbass.
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Well a person can say if they learn from their mistakes, they’ll be better off. Weather he has or hasn’t is up to him.
Al hasn’t gotten where he has by being a dumbass. That might be fine for poloticians, but not Al. He’ wealthy and owns an NFL team. He can do what he wishes with it. He suffers the most when they lose, and if he wants to run it into the ground and suffer, thats his choice. Just like your choice to let him bother you.
Why do you think Al is a genious?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Thought so. KK…not man enough to admit when another man does a good job. Because it would hurt his pride to do so.
Very mature, old-timer. Now, go chase MR’s tail for him…he hurt his neck last night.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?!
February 17th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Hayez, you’re more loyal than the rest of the die hard fans here? Most people who comment here are die hard fans, loyal. Love the team, love Al. But they only spend a fraction of the time that you do just vehemently defending Al Davis and Raiders’ management. Why do you spend so much time defending Raiders’ management? What’s in it for you? Why are the other Davis supporters in here capable of just talking football without constantly talking up how great Al Davis is, and why aren’t you?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
154.KoolKell Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
repost
By what standard is Davis doing a good job?
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2011 season just around the corner. If they win the division and go to the superbowl, then he did a good job. So to answer your question: can’t answer your question til later in the season when we’re gettin’er done.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Al hasn’t gotten where he has by being a dumbass.
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You mean the most embarrassing sports owner in America? Yes, he has, actually.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Armchair assures me that the following are true….he saw each of these on a movie or read a tweet about them:
The freemasons were Jack the Ripper!
The freemasons control the universe!
The Bilderberg Group controls the universe too!
We did not land on the moon!
JFK was killed be the Federal Reserve!
Oswald was the father of Alan Greenspan!
Jack Ruby was Alan Greenspan’s mother!
The United Nations rules the world too!
Kennedys murdered Marilyn Monroe!
Aliens landed in New Mexico!
Paul McCartney died years ago!
Skull and Bones rule the world too!
All the answers to the universe are on the back of the dollar bill!
FDR paid the Japs to bomb Pearl!
NASA is covering up an alien civilization on Mars!
The Council on Foreign Relations rules the world too!
The Trilateral Commission rules the world too!
Black helicopters are watching all of us!
The Catholics rule the world too!
So do the Jooos!
Queen Elizabeth had Diana murdered!
Contrails are really chemicals used to control us all!
February 17th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
I don’t have a problem with criticizing Al Davis. I have a problem with doing nothing BUT criticizing Al Davis. I have a problem with claiming to be a Raider fan and not saying something positive about good things that are happening. Credit to KK, I saw his positive post about the Seymour signing. I think I even remember seeing him say some positive things during the season. I’ve never seen you post one positive thing about the Raiders- and now there are positive things to post about.
And as for Al being a great GM? This week he is. If you can’t give him credit for it, you make my argument for me.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
I thought the Freemasons ran the world?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Thought so. KK…not man enough to admit when another man does a good job. Because it would hurt his pride to do so.
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Hang on a minute emffr, I ran out to get a mocha, ok?
So- signing Seymour is testament to his good work as GM over the last 22 years?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
I have a problem with claiming to be a Raider fan and not saying something positive about good things that are happening.
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Why? Why does it bother you if some fans are pessimists, and prefer to be realistic? Must every single fan break out the pom poms?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Dakota, do you think the president was born in Kenya?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Is Kenya a town in Hawaii?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:22 pm
You can say anything about anybody BUT Al Davis with some people.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
So, Dakota, you’re not in line with the right wing idiots who think the president was born out of the country? Do you think they’re idiots, who’ve lost their minds, and are wasting time on this, or do you think they have a legitimate concern?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
I think the Davis stooges on this site are Raider employees.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
# Dakota Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Armchair assures me that the following are true….he saw each of these on a movie or read a tweet about them:
The freemasons were Jack the Ripper!
The freemasons control the universe!
The Bilderberg Group controls the universe too!
We did not land on the moon!
JFK was killed be the Federal Reserve!
Oswald was the father of Alan Greenspan!
Jack Ruby was Alan Greenspan’s mother!
The United Nations rules the world too!
Kennedys murdered Marilyn Monroe!
Aliens landed in New Mexico!
Paul McCartney died years ago!
Skull and Bones rule the world too!
All the answers to the universe are on the back of the dollar bill!
FDR paid the Japs to bomb Pearl!
NASA is covering up an alien civilization on Mars!
The Council on Foreign Relations rules the world too!
The Trilateral Commission rules the world too!
Black helicopters are watching all of us!
The Catholics rule the world too!
So do the Jooos!
Queen Elizabeth had Diana murdered!
Contrails are really chemicals used to control us all!
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I don’t even have to make fun of this mental midget. He does it to himself…
February 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
162.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Al hasn’t gotten where he has by being a dumbass.
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You mean the most embarrassing sports owner in America? Yes, he has, actually.
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Good one. When he saves the NFL he’ll go from most disgusting sports figure in America to the most admired sports figure in America. And he’ll have a SB trophy in 2012 to go with it. Al will rise from the ashes to great relavence and he’ll have the last laugh on you. Bank it. BTW, he knows your talking trash about him, and hererra is not happy about that either because when Al doesn’t have a good day, hererra lives in fear and misery because when your a lap dog, your also a object of abuse. hererra has to listen to Al complain all day long how you, RMR, insult Al constantly because Al doesn’t do things the way you want them done, like it was Als’ fault Seabass misses a fg against AZ, or JC has a bad game against SF, of Gradkowski couldn’t get it done against Miami. NOT Als’ fault. But since he owns the team, he gets the blame.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
MR,
I don’t see that issue brought up anymore….you must be watching 2008 reruns of Countdown or something.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Kell, I just don’t understand why Hayez spends so much time defending Al. And notice he scatters right out of here as soon as I press him on this. A lot of people here are die hard Raider fans, die hard Davis supporters. But they don’t spend a fraction of the time and energy defending Al that Hayez does. I wonder what he gets in return? I hope something. At least a free shirt and calendar. LOL. Because he makes more effort to spin in Al Davis’s favor than people who are paid employees of the team.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
KK, the DC isn’t just a formality. I’d really rather see Winston Moss than see Breshnahan in there.
At the same time, I don’t see Breshnahan as some sort of a disaster. With Seymour and Wimbley coming back along with Kelly, Houston, and Shaughnessy, and Mike Waufle as the line coach, I think it’s reasonable to expect the pass rush to be top 5 again.
That’s going to make any DC look good.
Now pay attention here, because I’m going to show you two what a balanced, nuanced opinion is. Here’s something that Al Davis does that I DON’T like, he builds from the outside in, rather than the inside out. I don’t like that he spends all his time drafting corners when he should be drafting linemen. I think QB pressure makes CBs look good far more often than good CB play gets you a “coverage sack”.
And so, even if Nnamdi goes, (and I’m not convinced he will) I think the D will look good no matter who the DC is, because the QB will go down, and he will go down hard. By luck or by design, GM Davis put together a badass line. Tell me I’m wrong . . .
February 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Dakota, are the birthers idiots?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
What are you talking about when Al “saves” the NFL? When has Al Davis ever “saved” the NFL? And just how would he “save” the NFL today? Are you high?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
22,000 season ticket holders.
How do you figure Davis is a good GM?
………………dah there is a secret base under the oakland collesium more secret than area 51 which employees 22,000 people do the math!
February 17th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
#92 is a role model for our entire defense: BIG, BAD, NASTY, EFFECTIVE, FEARED, WEARS THE S & B, and DOESN’T TAKE SCHIT FROM ANYBODY.
Now that Seymour is a Raider BY CHOICE, I expect to see great things from him and the players around him. We may end up have the best D-Line in the league. Opposing QB’s beware. DOWN GOES FRAZIER or whatever the appropriate name for the day is. Looking forward to the 2011 season. AD’s trade for Seymour was without a doubt an outstanding transaction.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
You can make racist comments about Raider players on this site all day. But when someone offers a criticism of Al Davis, it’s like you shat on their grave or something.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
JB Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
#92 is a role model for our entire defense: BIG, BAD, NASTY, EFFECTIVE, FEARED, WEARS THE S & B, and DOESN’T TAKE SCHIT FROM ANYBODY.
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……OLD, INJURY PRONE, PENALTY PRONE, LOSES COMPOSURE.
No doubt, he embodies the typical Raiders’ defensive mindset.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Eagles planning on over spending for Nnamdi’s services
February 17th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
167.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
I have a problem with claiming to be a Raider fan and not saying something positive about good things that are happening.
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Why? Why does it bother you if some fans are pessimists, and prefer to be realistic? Must every single fan break out the pom poms?
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Pessimistic you are, realistic you are not.
If you were realistic, you’d say good things when there are good things to say and bad things when there are bad things to say.
You aren’t a realist, and you show that by what you avoid posting about. Not a peep from you about the Seymour deal, why not? It’s a good deal, good work by Al Davis, and it doesn’t serve your argument, so no comment from you. That’s bias.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
All hail king Davis…
Long live Al.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
172.KoolKell Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
I think the Davis stooges on this site are Raider employees.
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When Al raises the Raidahs from the awful abysimal depths he has sunk this team to, you’ll be wishing you were a Al Davis fan. Because when Oakland throws him a parade because he saved the NFL, you won’t be invited. And when the Raidahs go the to Super Bowl in 2012, you won’t be able to get a ticket because you’ll be on Als’ ‘no ticket for you’ list. Just sayin.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Seymour is as much to blame as anyone for the disaster in Pittsburgh this year. Remember that we’re a team one game away from winning the division, and a win in Pittsburgh could have motivated the team to winning 11 games for all we know. It would have been huge. So, for all of Seymour’s qualities, I just wish composure and long term vision were a part of it. Because in today’s NFL, your team leaders need to have those qualities. Just being billy badass and knocking guys around worked in the ’70s.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
KK, the DC isn’t just a formality. I’d really rather see Winston Moss than see Breshnahan in there.
I think the D will look good no matter who the DC is, because the QB will go down, and he will go down hard. By luck or by design, GM Davis put together a badass line. Tell me I’m wrong . . .
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Huh??????
Like I said the Raider DC job is just a formality.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
You can make racist comments about Raider players on this site all day. But when someone offers a criticism of Al Davis, it’s like you shat on their grave or something.
……………….you dont critize al davis you kneel before him.although you worship your god the four winds which is the ever lasting sky,al davis sits in his mountain and laughs at your four winds!
February 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
If you were realistic, you’d say good things when there are good things to say and bad things when there are bad things to say.
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Possibly your dumbest point ever, and there’s a lot of competition….
Whether something is “good” or “bad” is a matter of opinion, numbnuts. If someone doesn’t believe that Seymour is as good as you think he is, that’s not a “bias”. It’s a difference in opinion.
Now you basically don’t even know what you’re talking about. But keep entertaining me if you like.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
189.KoolKell Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Huh??????
Like I said the Raider DC job is just a formality.
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All or nothing with you, huh? Look, I agree we’d be better off with a hot hand, Moss or Perry. But one coach, EVEN A COORDINATOR, does not a staff make.
Waufle is coming back, that’s huge. Best DL coach in the league, and all his players are coming back. Do you have a realistic reason for thinking they can’t duplicate their 2010 level of play? Is Chuck B gonna cut their hair like Delilah or something?
I think we can expect they’ll do BETTER than they did in 2010.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
what is it with you guys today, something in the water??
February 17th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
What if a fan doesn’t believe that the Seymour deal is a good one? What if a fan believes that Seymour is too old to spend that much money on, and that he’s also too penalty prone, referring to his melt down in Pittsburgh that may have ruined our chances in the most important game of the year? Does a fan not have a right to believe that? A fan MUST give props to Al Davis for making the Seymour deal, even if he doesn’t believe Seymour is that valuable anymore? Just STFU, Davy. And stop telling people what to think. Jerk.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
about time politic crap is done on here….
February 17th, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Man Poisoning Trees at Toomer’s Corner Symbolic of Sports in 21st Century
Matt Hayes SN Icon Sporting News
We’re going about this the wrong way, unwittingly ignoring the bigger picture of a larger process.
We stand in disgust, decrying all that is unreal in this sick, sadistic moment. We shake our fingers and heads at the utter lunacy that has played out on the corner of Magnolia and College streets at Auburn University.
A crowd gathers as Auburn Police Chief Tommy Dawson speaks during a news conference at Samford Hall regarding the two poisoned oak trees at Toomer’s Corner in Auburn, Ala., on Thursday, Feb. 17, 2011. Harvey Almorn Updyke, Jr., a 62-year-old Dadeville man has been arrested in connection with the poisoning of the historic Toomer’s Corner oak trees at Auburn University. (AP Photo/The Birmingham News, Michelle Campbell) Meanwhile, the next move is being planned. Yet another lunatic has his sights set on Elmwood Cemetery.
This isn’t going to end, people. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever.
Not even after some “fan” heads down County Road 18 in Birmingham, Ala., pulls into the cemetery and finds grave marker No. 1739. And leaves his mark.
If you don’t follow Alabama-Auburn, if you’re not aware of the most vicious, vile and revolting rivalry in all of sports, the thought of desecrating a resting place is unfathomable.
But in this war—and, really, there’s no other proper way to describe this unholy hatred—the only eye for an eye remaining is the gravesite of Paul “Bear” Bryant himself.
Don’t think there’s not another Harvey Updyke out there. Don’t think there’s not another burnt orange and blue fan bent on revenge, the thought of those majestic oaks at Toomer’s Corner slowly dying enraging him to carry out the unthinkable.
Sadly, this is where sports has evolved in the 21st century—and it’s not just college football.
When Ron Artest goes into the stands to attack a fan; when Donte Stallworth and Leonard Little kill the innocent while drunk driving; when Delmon Young throws his bat at an umpire—and are all still paid millions to play a game—the dynamics of our sports world irrevocably change.
Why would Harvey Updyke, a 62-year-old grandfather and devout Alabama fan, allegedly pour a chemical on the ground to kill Live Oak trees shrouding Toomer’s Corner? The same reason a Wisconsin fan last week spit in the face of Ohio State freshman center Jared Sullinger.
It’s the same thing: a complete lack of class and character in a world of I Deserve What I Want. Look, I don’t want this to turn into a parenting moment, but poor behavior—wait, unspeakable behavior—isn’t learned, it’s modeled.
Just like we say teams are a reflection of their coaches, fans are a reflection of their teams. Or their sports heroes. And their parents.
When Nick Saban compares losing to Louisiana-Monroe to that horrific day at Pearl Harbor, how in the world does Updyke get over the Tide blowing a 24-point lead in the Iron Bowl?
By traveling to the local agricultural cooperative, throwing down a good chunk of change for the chemical Spike 80DF and pouring it all over the grounds at Toomer’s Corner—an amount officials say was 60 times more than what could kill the trees. Then, in a stunning act of bravado, calls a radio show and brags about it.
“Isn’t that against the law to poison a tree?” talk show host Paul Finebaum said to Updyke during the call.
“You think I care?” Updyke said.
You think Ron Artest cares?
It would be easy to point to Updyke—a man who named his children Bear and Crimson—and single him out as all that is wrong with fandom. A single, horrible act by a wayward, sick individual.
But then we’d forget about the fan in Gainesville who poured a cup of urine over the head of Tennessee coach Phil Fulmer’s wife Vicki. Or Notre Dame students throwing snowballs at players during a home loss to Syracuse.
Or the LSU fan that got Tim Tebow’s cell phone number, published it and encouraged others to leave disgusting messages on his voicemail all week prior to a game in Baton Rouge.
The next move already has been planned.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
All or nothing with you, huh?
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YOU HAVE ROOM TO TALK YOU DICTATING JERK!!!
You insist fans have to be all in on Seymour, and should give Al props, or they’re not real fans, and are just bias against Al. As if there’s no criticism of Seymour. No cons, whatsoever, in a 32 year old, injury prone player with clear personality issues that have hurt us in important games. And don’t forget this is a player who almost chose to sit out a year instead of play for Oakland. It took him a week to report after a trade that he was NOT ok with. Yet if any fan is critical of Al throwing some serious coin at him, they must be Al haters. F U, moron!
February 17th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
# olinesux Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
about time politic crap is done on here….
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Yeah, all is clear. The conversation is back down to a 3rd grade level that you can comprehend.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
191.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Possibly your dumbest point ever, and there’s a lot of competition….
Whether something is “good” or “bad” is a matter of opinion, numbnuts. If someone doesn’t believe that Seymour is as good as you think he is, that’s not a “bias”. It’s a difference in opinion.
Now you basically don’t even know what you’re talking about. But keep entertaining me if you like.
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That’s what I love about you, RMR. I can always tell when you are on the ropes by the way you start calling me names.
Difference of opinion is one thing, sure. If you want to think that everything that happens with the Raiders while Al is in charge is bad, fine. But that’s not being a realist!
Being a realist means having to accept, grudgingly or not, that some positive things have happened with the Raiders this last year. I’d go even further by saying that being a FAN means celebrating them!
You want to define yourself as a realist? Try posting “DMAC was a badass this year!” or “Our DL was badass this year!” Because that IS reality, and if you don’t include it, you are reporting selectively. That’s not realism, that’s yellow journalism.
Oh, while we’re practicing balanced reporting, who is responsible for building that badass line, for drafting that badass running back?
February 17th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Being a realist means having to accept, grudgingly or not, that some positive things have happened with the Raiders this last year
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There it is again, Hitler.
“You must accept that some positive things have happened!!! Nein nein nein!”
February 17th, 2011 at 3:54 pm
raiders 2011 qbs brett favre,jason campbell,kevin kolb,charlie frye.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Watch-out, Davy!!
MR will put you down for telling us how you feel…all the while telling YOU how you should be feeling.
He is one of the true Masters Of Hypocrisy…a new series coming to you this Spring.
February 17th, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Hayez, you never answered my question earlier. Why do you spend so much more time and energy defending the Raiders from an organizational standpoint than the other Davis supporters in here?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:02 pm
what do you guy think of the way Mike Mitchell played this year? any potential at safety ?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
—”ProFootballTalk reports the NFL and the Player’s Association have agreed to seven straight days of mediation beginning Friday”—
Bwhahahhahaha LOL, I read that as ‘meditation’ not ‘mediation’.. LOL
February 17th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
MR — Why does what I do or think affect you so?
You’re complaining about others doing it, but you can’t leave me alone. You hung on me?? Duh. Stupid question.
Chase your own tail…you bore me.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
MM34 will be a star in this here League.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
HazeDaze
Davis needs his diapers changed, you’d better run along now.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
KK — Did AL do a GOOD JOB improving the roster over the last year?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
197.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:38 pm
All or nothing with you, huh?
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YOU HAVE ROOM TO TALK YOU DICTATING JERK!!!
You insist fans have to be all in on Seymour, and should give Al props, or they’re not real fans, and are just bias against Al. As if there’s no criticism of Seymour. No cons, whatsoever, in a 32 year old, injury prone player with clear personality issues that have hurt us in important games. And don’t forget this is a player who almost chose to sit out a year instead of play for Oakland. It took him a week to report after a trade that he was NOT ok with. Yet if any fan is critical of Al throwing some serious coin at him, they must be Al haters. F U, moron!
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If you’ll look a little ways up in this thread, you’ll see a post where I criticize Al Davis. Now watch, I’ll do it again:
Al Davis has created an air of instabilty in Oakland. The constant coaching changes are a real problem.
Al Davis has a willingness to gamble on players with a high speed/size combination. It has burned him and awful lot this decade.
Al Davis seems to have had a hard time adapting to FA, as KK points out. DeAngelo Hall, Javon Walker. Many of his recent blockbuster trades haven’t worked out either. Randy Moss, Larry Johnson, Desmond Howard
Those things are true, and I admit it.
But, firing Cable was the right decision, the decision that kept Hue Jackson and his vastly superior playcalling in Oakland.
And, lately, (with DHB being a notable exception) Al’s height/speed picks have been working out. Nnamdi, Jacoby Ford, Tyvon Branch, Louis Murphy. Many of his recent draft picks have been excellent values for where they were picked. Shaughnessy, Houston, Veldheer, Ford, Branch, Michael Bush. Huff might work out after all. And exhibit A: Darren McFadden.
Al Davis also been a shrewd trader these last few years. Since the Randy Moss trade, Al has been picking the patriot’s pocket. A 5th round pick for Doug Gabriel, a 3rd for Derrick Burgess? Those two players did NOTHING for the patsies. Seymour trade was good for both sides. And how about giving up a 3rd for Wimbley? Nine sacks and counting, great deal.
I’m not going to say that Al Davis is the best GM in the league, or even an elite GM. But to say that Al is a horrible GM means purposely ignoring the most recent evidence. And why would a FAN ignore evidence of good things happening for their team?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Hayez, I’m just curious. No particular reason. If you don’t want to answer, that’s fine. I was just wondering. A lot of people here support Al, love the Raiders, win lose or tie. But they don’t spend a fraction of the time and energy that you spend talking up Al Davis and the team’s management. Just wondering if you get anything in return. Like a free calender, Raider coffee mug, etc.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
209.HayesDaze37 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
KK — Did AL do a GOOD JOB improving the roster over the last year?
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Yeah, pretty good draft, for a change. So?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
How about MM34, KK? Will he be a good-to-great pro football player? (Here, I’ll help you…he’s already good).
Pretty good draft choice, eh?
How about Lamarr Houston…or Shaughnessy? Guy who made those picks must’ve done a GOOD JOB selecting them, huh??
I know you can say it…
February 17th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Hayes
Is Davis your daddy, or do you work for him?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
But, firing Cable was the right decision, the decision that kept Hue Jackson and his vastly superior playcalling in Oakland.
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How the hell do you know who was calling the plays? I saw the same plays we’ve been running the past few years. We could have just as easily used Kiffin’s playbook this year, and we probably did. You have no way of knowing if the offense we used this year was Hue Jackson’s or the same offense we’ve been running, which is pretty much Lane Kiffin’s. It looked like Kiffin’s.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
200.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Being a realist means having to accept, grudgingly or not, that some positive things have happened with the Raiders this last year
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There it is again, Hitler.
“You must accept that some positive things have happened!!! Nein nein nein!”
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And you’d prefer that we accept that NO postive things have happened? Gee, you’re right, that’s way less facist.
You have a 1,000 yard running back palying for your team who led the league in runs of 40+ yards. You have a Dline that was 2nd in the league in sacks. These are good things that Raiders fan should enjoy watching, YOU can’t get positive about them, and you think there’s something wrong with ME?
How about rooting for a team that you can, you know, root for?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
I never asked you to accept anything, Davy. You’re the one demanding that we accept that positive change has happened in Oakland, like a damned nazi. And I just don’t see it. I think the organization is a mess, and I think whatever small, mundane positive aspects there are are overshadowed by the chaos. You can positively shove that up your ass.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
Hayes
Is Davis your daddy, or do you work for him?
You get sooooooooooooooo upset when he’s criticized.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
“Pretty good draft for a change”…”good news”…very clever, KK. Just can’t bring yerself to say it, huh?
No surprise, since you are MR’s lackey. It’s obvious his takes are mentally superior to yours — well, he thinks so, anyway (like that’s a major accomplishment!). However, you do follow his lead most the time. But, you cut n’ paste with the best of ‘em!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Hayes
Is Davis your daddy, or do you just work for him?
You get sooooooooooooooo upset when he’s criticized.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Hayes
Is Davis your daddy, or do you just work for him?
You get sooooooooooooooo Personal when he’s criticized.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
215.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:09 pm
But, firing Cable was the right decision, the decision that kept Hue Jackson and his vastly superior playcalling in Oakland.
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How the hell do you know who was calling the plays? I saw the same plays we’ve been running the past few years. We could have just as easily used Kiffin’s playbook this year, and we probably did. You have no way of knowing if the offense we used this year was Hue Jackson’s or the same offense we’ve been running, which is pretty much Lane Kiffin’s. It looked like Kiffin’s.
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Um, RMR, when Hue Jackson was brought on, Cable was relieved of playcalling duties and Hue Jackson was given them. There were lots of stories about it, quotes from Cable about how he was “free to oversee the entire team” and such. Would you like me to look them up?
Kiffin has been gone from this team along time. The Raiders more than DOUBLED their point total from 2009 to 2010. What could be different from 2009 to 2010? There were a lot of factors, a healthier DMAC, and (yes, I’ll say it) a more stable environment with the return of Cable. But what should go to the top of the list, hmmmm? How about new OC and play caller? Dingdingding!
Crediting Kiffin for anything going on with this team now is laughable. Kiffin is on his second post-raiders coaching job. You only like Kiffin because he publicly tweaked Al’s nose. But as far as on the field evidence is concerned, you don’t have any.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Here…I’ll criticize Al:
I think…
He shouldn’t have hired Lance.
He shouldn’t have hired Romo.
He shouldn’t have given hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts to so many unproven/wrecked bodies.
He shouldn’t have replaced Tom Flores when he did.
He shouldn’t have waited so long to replace the great player and man Art Shell as HC…either term.
And on and on and on.
Al Davis is still the man who owns “my” team. I’m not only comfortable with it…I prefer him to ANY other owner in the NFL right now.
Here’s one…
How come the Rooney Rule wasn’t named the Davis rule??
Only makes sense that The Man who’s done more for minority coaching candidates than any other Owner should be the one recognized for it, yes?
How come, KK — with all your whining about racism in here, you never give The Man his due regarding that very matter?
MR and KK…what a tag-team. In every sense of the word.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
HayesDaze
There’s a measley 22,000 season ticket holders, do you really think I’m the only Davis critic????
February 17th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Um, RMR, when Hue Jackson was brought on, Cable was relieved of playcalling duties and Hue Jackson was given them.
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Yet, I still saw a lot of Kiffin’s plays. Remember that Tom Cable socked one assistant in the jaw, and basically said on national t.v. that the Raiders were “losers” before his arrival, so it’s not like he’s letting Hue Jackson push him around. We used Kiffin’s playbook this year, that’s what I saw.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
HayesDaze
There’s a measley 22,000 season ticket holders, does that tell you Al Davis is a genius?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Dazey
If you don’t want me going off on Davis, keep your stupid mouth shut, ok?
I’d be talking about something else if it wasn’t for you.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Hayez, do you at least get a coffee mug from the team for how much you defend its management? Again, nobody in here defends the organization as much as you, and there are a lot of die hard, Davis supporters in here. Yet none of them spend as much time as you do spinning for the organization. Why? What do you get for it? Please tell me they at least give you a couple of season highlight DVDs, or something. Don’t tell me you do all of this for nothing. Tell me they give you something.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
217.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
I never asked you to accept anything, Davy. You’re the one demanding that we accept that positive change has happened in Oakland, like a damned nazi. And I just don’t see it. I think the organization is a mess, and I think whatever small, mundane positive aspects there are are overshadowed by the chaos. You can positively shove that up your ass.
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I don’t demand that you do a damn thing. I have no more power than you have, RMR. I just think that your “correction” of “Al Stooges” is biased and needs a correction itself. You post a lot of kneejerk Anti-Al crap that needs a rebuttal.
But I don’t have to call you a moron, or a dumbass, or Hitler, or tell you to shove anything or to STFU. I’m going to come at you with arguments and stats. Can you handle it? Can you defend your vendetta against Al Davis with an argument and not name calling?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Per game…how many points, and how many yards, did the Offense have under Lance?
How many points, and how many yards did the O have under HueJax?
Yeah…Lance’s play book, all right.
One of the most ridiculous statements you’ve ever tried to shove at us, MR.
All just to keep an argument going? ZZZzzzzzz
February 17th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
so was that kiffin`s playbook in 2009.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Davy, I’ve had it with you. You’ve become a nuisance whose only goal is clearly to get attention, and I’m just not going to compliment you anymore by responding to you. I get plenty of sparring practice on HAyez, anyway, where beating Davis lackeys is concerned. So I simply don’t need you. You’re on ignore from this point on. Stop annoying me.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Gotta agree. All Hue did was dust off the 31 year old’s playbook, and voila, the Raiders are a top 10 offense…next.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Rod Woodson. damn good hire!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
We’ve been calling Kiffin’s plays ever since he left, in ‘08, in ‘09, in ‘10. That’s Cable’s offense. Hue Jackson probably had no impact on our offense last year, or its improvement, because I’m pretty sure that Cable didn’t even listen to him. Cable knew Hue was brought in to replace him, so do you think Cable’s honestly going to help with the transition? This is a head coach who knocked an assistant out. I’ll bet you Cable and Hue didn’t even have one conversation. I saw Cable’s team last year, which is pretty much Kiffin’s team, albeit a little dumber. If Kiffin were still here, we’d be 12-4 last year.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
225.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Davy Jones Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Yet, I still saw a lot of Kiffin’s plays. Remember that Tom Cable socked one assistant in the jaw, and basically said on national t.v. that the Raiders were “losers” before his arrival, so it’s not like he’s letting Hue Jackson push him around. We used Kiffin’s playbook this year, that’s what I saw.
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I don’t remember ever seeing the FB utilized under Kiffin in the way it was last year. And moreover, Hue ran a power running offense with a lot of long, play action passing. Much more Al friendly.
Kiffins was more of a WC offense, as I recall. Although it was hard to tell, since during those years our offense did nothing but suck ass. Why do you like that guy, again?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
234.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Rod Woodson. damn good hire!
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Aaaahhhh yeah. Everything is always peaches & cream this time of the year for Raider Fans.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Looks like Nnamdi could moving on.
I hope the Raiders change up the defense.
Nnamdi gave up ZERO passing TDs and had the fewest attenpts thrown at him and YET this defense still managed to give up close to 30 pass TDs (almost 2 per game)
That means Al’s beloved man2man has to be modified significantly.
The thought of facing Routt and Johnson or the green W. McFadden in straight man2man has to have every QB and O.C sleeping like a kid on Christmas Eve.
I HOPE THEY HAVE A DOGGONE PLAN TO ADDRESS THE SECONDARY!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Hue Jackson probably had no impact on our offense last year, or its improvement, because I’m pretty sure that Cable didn’t even listen to him…
LOL! go.go.go!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Somebody against the Rod Woodson hire?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
the resident niner fan is here…realmoronraider…
February 17th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Why is Davy still addressing me? He knows I’m not going to read his comment, or respond. Does this guy just need a friend or something?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Its also a shame that the Raiders spent an excessive amount of high draft picks on Corners and Safeties and may have only the very average Stanford Routt to show for it.
Getting no compensation for letting Nnamdi walk is also a big lapse in planning for the future
February 17th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Woodson is a fantastic hire.
Hopefully he can get one of those CBs to be a top tier CB….which is mandatory for this defense to have a chance.
Or will we see more 5 safety sets
February 17th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Oh, today I’m a Niner fan. Yesterday I was a Bucs fan. The day before that a Broncos fan. The day before that, hmmm, let’s see, USC, Kiffin? Whatever. Just spin that wheel, see what it lands on today. Oh, there it is! 49ers! MR is a 49er fan! Yesterday it landed on Broncos. Join us tomorrow, when we spin the conspiracy wheel again!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
235.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
We’ve been calling Kiffin’s plays ever since he left, in ‘08, in ‘09, in ‘10. That’s Cable’s offense. Hue Jackson probably had no impact on our offense last year, or its improvement, because I’m pretty sure that Cable didn’t even listen to him. Cable knew Hue was brought in to replace him, so do you think Cable’s honestly going to help with the transition? This is a head coach who knocked an assistant out. I’ll bet you Cable and Hue didn’t even have one conversation. I saw Cable’s team last year, which is pretty much Kiffin’s team, albeit a little dumber. If Kiffin were still here, we’d be 12-4 last year.
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You DO understand what playcalling is, don’t you buddy? Jerry McDonald dismisses the importance of playcalling and favors execution, but I don’t agree.
Hue called when we were going to run, when we were going to pass short, when we were going to pass long, when we were going to run a reverse. And he did a damn fine job of it, the point totals don’t lie.
Cable, on the other hand, called the fourth and nine “give it to Lechler” fiasco. Cable called “run-run-pass-four and out” far, far too often.
You’re really reaching on the Kiffin stuff, dude.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Stanford Routt is gonna be exhibited just like MeAngelo. Sure hope R.Woodson can teach as good as he played.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Our offense is starting from scratch. We used Kiffin’s offense last year. In fact, maybe Jackson will continue to use Kiffin’s offense. Does Jackson even have his own offensive strategy? He was never really an OC anywhere, was he?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Its great to lock up Seymour even if its just two years. He deserved it.
Now what I don’t understand is Lombardi’s assumptions regarding ZMiller and by result Nnam. If ZM is a RFA there’s no need to franchise him right????
He keeps saying the Raiders are going to franchise ZM. Somebody explain why that must be the case???
The way I see it both Bush and ZM could be RFAs. Huff could either get a deal or be frachised but really the Raiders may not have to franchise anyone.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Dude, would one of you talk to Davy so he’ll stop leaving me comments? He’s scaring me. And I mean in a creepy stalker way.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Does Jackson even have his own offensive strategy? He was never really an OC anywhere, was he?
You talking bout Kiffin right?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
SnB Production Says,
maybe playing more zone will make johnson and routt better.it will help all three Lb`s and the entire defense against the run.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Rod Woodson was a very heady player, I gotta think he can help the secondary, vision/read wise.
But who’s calling the defense this year, Davis?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Well, of course, every offensive strategy to some extension is a variation of the old 3 on 3 football on Atari, but I mean modern day wrinkles, such as Kiffin’s style of run and shoot, etc. Because that’s what I saw last year, and the year before that, and the year before that. Jackson was a non factor last year. I don’t care if the Raiders called him an offensive coordinator. I’m telling you if Cable had a headset last year, he was calling the plays. Jackson was playing with himself.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Yep. Al will probably be calling the D. But believe me its better to have Rod coaching the DBs than to have some unknown kid like the Sanjay Lal dude coaching the WRs
February 17th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Jackson was a non factor last year. I don’t care if the Raiders called him an offensive coordinator. I’m telling you if Cable had a headset last year, he was calling the plays. Jackson was playing with himself.
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Oh C’mon man!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
but I mean modern day wrinkles, such as Kiffin’s style of run and shoot, etc…
wtf? LOL! wooooooooo!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
I see you’re down to the pygmy dart strategy, Macho Man. Come on, keep spitting them. I’m bound to go down!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
242.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Why is Davy still addressing me? He knows I’m not going to read his comment, or respond. Does this guy just need a friend or something?
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If what you want is for me to stop addressing you, you can help by not posting so much BS. Kay? Kay.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Just having some good spirited fun MR.
February 17th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Ouch, another dart. Come on, Macho man. Keep spitting ‘em. Keep spitting. Make that little sound. “nat nat nat nat nat nat nat!!”. Eventually the giant RMR will fall to his knees. Come on!
February 17th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
you thought i was talking to you rmr?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
By current league rules you must have 6yrs of service before you can become a UFA right?
Bush has 3yrs + 1 on IR = 4yrs
ZMiller has 4yrs
Both were drafted in ‘07.
I dont’ get why we would need to franchise either if the current rules stand. Just match the best offer they can get in the open market – which should be reasonable for both.
I just don’t understand Lombardi’s argument. Am I missin something?
February 17th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
111.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
88.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
# ArmChair GM Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
The sheep won’t learn until it’s too late…
They don’t realize that behind the song and dance charade that the dems and repubs put on for us, they actually are cut from the same cloth.
They share the same ideals, philosophies and values, when the cameras are off…
…………
So original. Yawn.
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The key to enlightenment is ignoring people who have all the answers yet no solutions, like (blah…blah..blahh.blahh…) That’s his solution?
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So original. Yawn? That’s a solution? Divide and conquer is probably the oldest trick in the book. But YOU know how to see the DIFFERENCE in dems and reps..oOo…
February 17th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/01/04/espn-49ers-want-to-talk-to-jackson/
“Under Jackson, the Raiders made the most dramatic improvement in the NFL, particularly with regard to the bottom line. A year after scoring 17 touchdowns with Cable serving as offensive coordinator and play-caller along with his duties as head coach, the Raiders scored 37 touchdowns with Jackson running the offense.”
Don’t believe it from me, will you believe it from Jerry McDonald?
Don’t worry, I’m done for tonight. Have your little I-hate-Al pity party.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Who’s dividing and conquering us, 510?
February 17th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Would somebody talk to Davy, please? When he leaves a comment, I skim through it to see if he mentions me, or if he’s still shadowboxing with me in an argument that I’ve already schooled him on long ago, and if he has, it’s a little more creepy every time. Someone please talk to him.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Routt was a RFA last year because he only had 5yrs of service. I just don’t get Lombardi’s argue that we are going to franchise ZM and lose Nnam in consequence to both Seymour’s deal and ZM being franchised.
ZM, Bush and Nnam may all return in ‘11
February 17th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
We used Kiffin’s offense? MR leave you fanstasies to yourself my friend. Your trip with Alice in Wonderland is clouding your football acumen to even utter such a thing. It was already seen jc’s two year in a wco isnt gonna work….plus Hue’s attack isnt short pass oriented with noodle armed qbs
February 17th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
266.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Who’s dividing and conquering us, 510?
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“Democrats” and “Republicans.” In other words the image that if one party can’t get it right, the other will. Well America’s been around for idk 500 years and yet still poverty exist and the wealth remains centralized with the the minority…what difference have any of the parties made?
Think about this RMR since you’re into Hip-Hop. What’s the difference between “undergound” and “mainstream” rappers?
February 17th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Why have nnamdi come back? What’s the point? At 12 mil thats too much for his production
February 17th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Troll, your mom is home with some more Cheetos, you better waddle upstairs and get them.
BAN THE TROLLS!
February 17th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Lane Kiffin isn’t WCO, Brien. He’s run and shoot. And we’ve been using his offense since he left, will probably continue to.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Raider 510, Democrats AND Republicans are dividing and conquering us? I thought they had no power? They were just talking heads? Now you’re saying they’re powerful enough to not only control the entire country, but divide all of the people? Those politicians? You sure think highly of them.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
84.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
Thec07 Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
but of course Bro…He beleives the sham, just like BO has real control
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I never said the president was in “real control”, and neither did most of his voters. This is what I’m talking about. You think you’re smart by projecting views onto others that they’ve never ever expressed. Basically, you’re enlightened because you don’t think Democrats and Republicans in office make every single decision for Americans. The only problem with your self perception: Nobody thinks politicians control everything! You’re just not that smart. Sorry.
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274.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Raider 510, Democrats AND Republicans are dividing and conquering us? I thought they had no power? They were just talking heads? Now you’re saying they’re powerful enough to not only control the entire country, but divide all of the people? Those politicians? You sure think highly of them.
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THE IMAGE divides and conquers us. Does that help. Maybe next time you’ll listen to you’re own advice.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
THE IMAGE?
Who’s “The Image”?
The Image is dividing and conquering us?
Does The Image look like Cyrus from Warriors?
Wow, everyone, the leader of the world has a night club name!
February 17th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
276.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
THE IMAGE?
Who’s “The Image”?
The Image is dividing and conquering us?
Does The Image look like Cyrus from Warriors?
Wow, everyone, the leader of the world has a night club name!
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You are sad. But I’ll try to help you anyways…just give Davy a shot arrite. Maybe he’s the chubby chaser you’ve been hoping Al’s been…RMR this is you’re chance to finally get laid!
*ADVICE FOR DAVY: RMR is a fat girl virgin just fyi..but if you’re into that then be my guest.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
I found a picture of The Image, everyone.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L7SHjwHtNOM/SJnneNJU0tI/AAAAAAAAAG4/RXqyIEjKNMU/s320/Laurence_Fishburne.jpg
February 17th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Can someone explain or maybe find the quote about Kiffin saying he runs an offense like Gruden’s….MR another lie another day……moving along
February 17th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
Anyways on to Raider news..
Richard Seymour was easily a better sign than Nnamdi. I love the guy but if we’re sticking to 90% man-to-man than the D-line is crucial.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
People might deny that The Image is using the Democratic and Republican parties to divide us, but their pea size brains just can’t handle the truth. I have learned of The Image and his powers in the Men’s bathroom of the lower concourse at the Oakland colisuem. You see, you have to go to Raider games to see The Image. Only we can see him. We know the truth. We’re enlightened, while the rest of America argues over Democrat and Republican stuff. The Image rules the universe.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UiB8RlLbB3o/R8i6YeCX6aI/AAAAAAAAAPE/2aYgsmomICo/s400/warriors+06.jpg
February 17th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
271.General Bauce Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Why have nnamdi come back? What’s the point? At 12 mil thats too much for his production
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What’s up Bauce!
I agree that paying too much for Nnamdi is a bad thing. All I am saying is have a plan for his departure, if that’s necessary.
What’s fact is the guy is doing something special to have so few attempts, zero TDs against and routinely shuts his side down. Given that, the rest of the defense gave up 30TD passes.
You can’t just slot in 4th rounder Walter McFadden or Chris Johnson and keep playing the same defense. It will fail miserably.
I wish the Raiders would adjust the man2man so it wouldn’t require super heroes to play the position.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Well, I’m out of here. Remember, everyone. Don’t pay attention to Democrats and Republicans. THE IMAGE has put them to work, to divide you, from, well, you, I guess. I don’t know. Raider 510 will tell you more about THE IMAGE.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Next in order:
Michael Bush
Zach Miller
Nnamdi Asomugha
Michael Huff
I have more faith in Stevie Brown taking over safety than Walter McFadden and Jeremy Ware stepping in as corners. With that said Huff did step his game up finally.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Bauce,
Good observation on the Seymour signing. Still need a NT to plug the middle. Both Seymour and Kelly are UTs and the run defense is still weak because of it.
Need to get a big man that can play starter reps
But we know that one alreay….ouch…banged my head against the wall again
February 17th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
Yesterday the players union pressed a grievance that the league made an underhanded deal with these TV networks. In return for accepting less from networks for rights to games, the NFLPA charges that the league got a guarantee it would be paid in 2011 no matter the lockout situation. The NFLPA characterizes the deal as “lockout protection” and compares it to “insurance,” alleging that the NFL breached its fiduciary duties under the prior collective bargaining agreement.”
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How is this underhanded??????
February 17th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
I wish the Raiders would adjust the man2man so it wouldn’t require super heroes to play the position.
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Then they would have to mix up the coverages with Zone more. A lot more.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Kell,
What’s up! I agree with you 100%. Al Davis has to let it go on the man2man and mix up coverages and looks like you said.
I am just being painfully realistic here about Nnamdi. There are only a handful of CBs that can play the island on most of the snaps with no over the top help…..that’s why they get big money.
If the Raiders don’t mix it up..and practice it…they are going to fail spectaculalry on defense next year because Routt, Johnson and McFadden are average (at best) CBs
February 17th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
SnB
So who’s going to put that together, Bresnahan?
February 17th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
So who’s going to put that together, Bresnahan or Al Davis?
February 17th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
cool village idiot #1 is out of here….
February 17th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Al Davis is my coach…..SnB we need a NT. How many years are we gonna ignore it?
February 17th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
General Bauce Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Al Davis is my coach…..SnB we need a NT. How many years are we gonna ignore it?
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One of the dumbest comments ever, damn!
Your “coach” doesn’t want a NT.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
180.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 16th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
Al’s getting it done. Good off season moves. Reminds me of 2008. It’s just too bad we only finished 5-11 that year. Just seems like the harder Al tries, the harder he fails. Hopefully things change this year.
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“Al is getting it done”. “Good off season moves”. You yourself are admitting there are positive things happening with the Raiders.
Guys, there are just some guys who will hate on the Raiders NO MATTER WHAT.
February 17th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
MR you are pitiful lol……easily been exposed as a liar today…..now you wanna straddle the fence on rep/dem stuff……just go away lol
February 17th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Kell how is that a dumb comment? Al is known to be stubborn everyone has admitted this…….but he yeilds if someone can sell the idea. You have even agreed with me on this issue…..but fact is Im an al loyalist and riding with the ship
February 17th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Kell no point in you being on here if you hate the man to this degree. I dont agree with Al but dude still cool to me. You just a punk in life that everyone dislikes………… including yourself
February 17th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
So far, I think it’s been a productive off-season.
I like Hue and think he’s going to be a fine HC.
I’m glad RS and KW will both be back.
Would be nice if the DC situation was resolved, but can’t complain about the additions to the coaching staff.
Hopeful that the Raids have as good a draft this year as they did last.
Don’t see any reason to believe that winning the AFC West and making a run in the playoffs can’t be accomplished.
Except one…
JaJason sucks.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Well, “your coach” has a losing record over the last 22 years.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
General Bauce Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Kell no point in you being on here if you hate the man to this degree. I dont agree with Al but dude still cool to me. You just a punk in life that everyone dislikes………… including yourself
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Why do you people get so personal over criticisms of Al Davis?
February 17th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Here’s what the usual suspects would say if the Raiders were to win the Super Bowl:
“Enjoy your ONE Super Bowl win. It will be the last one the Raiders see in 20-30 years, or until Al is dead and buried. I didn’t even watch the game cuz I knew it’d be a disgraceful Al Davis love fest. Proboably the least watched SB in history. Winning the SB in the weakest season for competition in years is no victory. Raiders coasted with a easy schedule against the weakest schedule in the league doesn’t impress.
Raiders got lucky plain and simple. They stole at least three games that could’ve gone either way. Lose those and you aren’t even in the playoffs no less playing for a SB against a lame duck opponent.
So Al get’s one last ring that will always be tainted. Hope you losers are happy. I watched the replay of the Kings game. It was more interesting. Raiders still suck despite stealing the Lombardi trophy. Means nothing in my book. Just watch. Al will take all the credit for something he had nothing to do with.
I guess all those years around Ron Wolf finally paid off for one meaningless season.”
February 17th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Hey Brien
check out this new video and tell me what you think
http://www.youtube.com/user/rapisajoke
February 17th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Kell you always have been personal with everyone over everything…..now you complain?
February 17th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Yes Kell has brought out Al’s record since 89 once again. Show wouldnt be right without it
February 17th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Im just saying, “your coach” has a losing record over the last 22 years. Isn’t that relevant?
February 17th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
So what if he has? I’ll ride with him but what is your whole point being on here? No one even likes you and nothing good comes from your posts. Go live that big grand sellout life you brag about so much. Your wasting your last years
February 17th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
General Bauce Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
So what if he has? I’ll ride with him but what is your whole point being on here? No one even likes you and nothing good comes from your posts
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A lot of people like me here & in real life. But, what’s that to you?
February 17th, 2011 at 6:26 pm
AL IS IN CONTROL OF THE TEAM…… Live with it or leave. Guy is old yeah so what? Alot of us will ride with him for what he has meant to sports.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Raiders have won more than 3 times the number of playoff games that “America’s team” has won the last 15 years.
Nobody talks about stats like that.
Oh, but Jerry Jones is soooo wonderful. He has three Super Bowl’s just like Al.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Fine, ride on. I was a season ticket holder before you were born. I’ll leave when I get ready.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Alot like you? Naw some are misguided on this site but I think most are cool. You suck. Team is good but has a few issues. Al has brought in modern football talent to wins games. He was stubborn before but eventually succumbs. Gruden years are a good example
February 17th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
Yeah Kell and I bet since I’ve been born you have been an trash ass person
February 17th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Your season tickets mean what? My grandpa been around since Kezar passed on to my immediate family and still aint did you crybaby shhht
February 17th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Brien I thought you got down with Rap Is A Joke
is General Bauce not Brien?
February 17th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
@Djohnnyg
Free Agency in the NFL started in 1989 with Plan B. It marked a new way of operation for NFL teams.
In the 22 Seasons since the implementation of Free Agency and the Modern Era, some teams have adjusted, some have not. The following is the number of winning seasons by team since 1989:
1 Pittsburgh 17
2 Philadelphia 15
3 Miami 14
4 Green Bay 14
5 New England 14
6 Minnesota 14
7 Indianapolis 14
8 Kansas City 13
9 Dallas 13
10 Denver 12
11 San Francisco 12
12 Tennessee 11
13 New York Giants 11
14 New York Jets 10
15 Buffalo 10
16 Tampa Bay 9
17 San Diego 9
18 Chicago 9
19 Seattle 8
20 Washington 8
21 Atlanta 8
22 New Orleans 8
23 Oakland 7
24 Detroit 6
25 St Louis 5
26 Cleveland 4
27 Arizona 3
28 Cincinnati 3
Jacksonville’s been in the NFL since 1995, 7 winning seasons
Carolina been in the NFL since 1995, 4 winning seasons
Baltimore’s been in the NFL since 1996, 8 winning seasons
Houston’s been in the NFL since 2002, 1 winning season.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
305.KoolKell Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Im just saying, “your coach” has a losing record over the last 22 years. Isn’t that relevant?
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Did you and Al Davis have a thing or something? Whats the deal. You carry a nasty vengence like some ex wives do. Did he dump you or something? So the man put a bad product on the field the last few years. Big deal. I got over the pain a long time ago, but still love the Raiders. He aint perfect but he owns the Raiders.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
Darayduh Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
Did you and Al Davis have a thing or something? Whats the deal. You carry a nasty vengence like some ex wives do. Did he dump you or something? So the man put a bad product on the field the last few years. Big deal. I got over the pain a long time ago, but still love the Raiders. He aint perfect but he owns the Raiders.
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Losing is okay with you, fine.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:46 pm
KK-It’s what it is. I cannot do anything about it. Losin isn’t fine with me, but I gotta roll with it. We’ll be back, and could be this year.
February 17th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
I hope so, but history has me worried.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
According to NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi, Richard Seymour’s $30 million contract leaves the Raiders with a “slim and none” chance of re-signing free agent Nnamdi Asomugha.
“And I would favor none,” Lombardi said. “Once Seymour’s deal was done, that eliminated Asomugha. Seymour got over $22 million in guaranteed money. Now the Raiders can place the franchise tag on TE Zach Miller, keeping him off the market … Asomugha is going to be the top free agent when we get to free agency this offseason, and he’s going to command a huge deal, something the Raiders can’t really pay.”
February 17th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
Dogg its me….ima check it in a sec bruh
February 17th, 2011 at 7:08 pm
cool B, how you doing these days anyway bruh? I don’t find myself up on this much anymore, every once in a while.
The Rap Is A Joke cats are making a real push, check out rapisajoke.com
February 17th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
If Nnamdi truly is out of reach, the Raiders shsould replace him with Jonathan Joseph and Antonio Cromartie.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:10 pm
Something is gonna be done….I believe Al trying to win it all this year and next….Im sure part of my offseason wish list will be met
February 17th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Now thats more like it YoungAmerican….those two make plays
February 17th, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Dogg Im cool before the lights are turned off in America lol
February 17th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Davis making some nice looking moves this off season
February 17th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Just for kicks, here’s just one of many interesting possibilities for the Raiders’ roster next season:
QB – Campbell
HB – McFadden, Bush
FB – Reece
WR – S. Moss, Ford, Murphy, DHB, Schillens
TE – Miller, Myers
LT – Veldheer
LG – Ijalana (2nd round)
C – Kirkpatrick (3rd round)
RG – Campbell
RT – Henderson, Barnes
DT – Seymour, Kelly, Ian Williams (4th round), Desmond Bryant
DE – Shaughnessy, Houston, Cedrick Thornton (6th round)
WLB – Goethel, Groves
MLB – McClain
SLB – Wimbley
CB – Joseph, Cromartie, McFadden, Ware, Davon House (5th round)
SS – Mitchell, Branch
FS – Huff, Brown
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What are some possibilities you guys would like to see?
February 17th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
you waiting on the North American Union and the new currency the “amero”?
February 17th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
YoungAmerican
I would like to see the Raiders have Casey Matthews fall in their lap in the 3rd round
February 17th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Gimme chad in oakland….would be wonderful show
February 17th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
Casey Matthews
http://www.goducks.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=500&ATCLID=1149796
February 17th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Chad WOULD bring a much needed swagger to the WR group, as well as consistency. Maybe with a receiver of his caliber on the roster someone besides a TE will lead the team in receptions!
February 17th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Bauce, “kiss the baby!”
February 17th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
Chad or Santana Moss would be decent veteran additions. Especially considering that Al is not likely to go after a big name like Sidney Rice or Vincent Jackson.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Bauce, did you look @ that video clip on Robert Sands?
February 17th, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Sands could be good, but if the Raiders can’t re-sign Huff I’d rather they brought in a veteran like Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.
February 17th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
I wish Nnamdi the best…maybe he’ll win a SB ring just like Woodson!
February 17th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
I just hope Nnamdi doesn’t go to a team I loathe.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
I’d prefer Rice over Ocho, Moss, Holmes, & Edwards.
But I think Santana would make the most sense…for Campbell’s confidence!
February 17th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
If siging Seymour means we lose Nnamdi, then we never had a chance in the first place. All these so called analysts expected us to franchise Seymour which would have cost us 120% of his 14 million dollar salary from last year. THIS deal is CHEAPER by FAR.
Nnamdi could get the guaranteed $ he’s looking for in longer years. Give him a nice signing bonus stretched out over 5 years with his base around 10 million and it shouldn’t be a problem.
But of course that isn’t going to get the headlines that a story of Nnamdi going elsewhere, lol.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Ford, Murphy, DHB, and Chaz are going to get the most looks barring injury. I don’t see a vet FA coming here for the scraps.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
YA, as long as it’s not the Dolts, Queefs, Donkeys, Whiners, and Squealers I’m Okay!
February 17th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
#21 will never win a SB, you can put him on any team you like its not going to happen. #21 isnt a playmaker, never has been one, never will be one.
Take your bleeding heart bullsh!t and stick it where the sun dont ever shine.
F #21 and the sissy a$$ horse he rode in on.
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# r8eray Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
I wish Nnamdi the best…maybe he’ll win a SB ring just like Woodson!
February 17th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Yeah that would be terrible OMG why dont you go cry yourself to sleep.
Pathetic a$$ Raider fans are getting larger in numbers every year!
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# YoungAmerican Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
I just hope Nnamdi doesn’t go to a team I loathe.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
What a piss-poor attempt at trolling.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Young,
Anybody that doesn’t agree with you is a troll?
WTF kind of piss-poor logic is this? You are a whiny lil bich, get over it.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
No, just anyone who comes in trying to start fights by calling people names like a petulant nine-year-old.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Young aka Nancy,
I just dont know how we can fill the shoes of a DB that makes 0 INT’s and 0 forced fumbles, 17 tackles in a entire season.
OMG how do we fill those shoes?
February 17th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
So having a different opinion than you equals starting a fight?
You mean name calling like you calling me a troll because I think #21 is a overrated pu$$y?
lmao
ok
February 17th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
br0wnStains, GROW-UP…whats your deal?
It’ not the first and I’m sure it won’t be the last!
February 17th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Young, instead of flinging your purse at me why dont you give me some solid numbers or stats to backup your claim.
Im all ears…
February 17th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
How about a DB who allows 0 TD passes against him, when the rest of the team gave up the second most in the league?
I don’t think it’s the end of the world if Nnamdi leaves the Raiders. But he’s an elite player and a class act.
The only person who doesn’t think he’s an elite player seems to be you. Which is your prerogative I suppose. But every scout, journalist, and NFL team disagree with you.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:52 pm
Ok so he gave up nothing and took nothing. He made 17 tackles in a entire NFL football season, barely got his jersey dirty. You just proved my point he is overrated as any play that has ever put on a uniform.
The end.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
any player*
February 17th, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Took away half of the field. As solid of a tackler as you’ll find at his position – very solid in run support. Unfortunately, he’s in a defensive scheme that leaves him on a single side of the field, playing in man coverage. Just because the Raiders failed to utilize him in his time here doesn’t mean he’s a bad player or a “pu$$y” (I’m not even sure where you get THAT from, but then again you’re probably just trolling for a reaction).
February 17th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
So much love for a player that has done almost nothing for this organization in what 7 years? One good season in 2006 and the rest is total garbage & derelict Raider fans suk on that guys pipe like he pays your mortgage.
SeaPerch gets the same luv from the same idiots in here. You mopes do cartwheels for mediocrity like no other fan base.
February 17th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
Oh he took away half the field and yet teams have been gashing our Def for the last 7 years he was back there. How did that happen? If we only had to defend half a field with 10 players seems impossible to me.
Its the teams fault #21 has had 1 good season in 7 years. Ok I got it…lol
February 17th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
If anything the Raiders did #21 a favor. They never rotated him to the other teams #1 WR. He has been shutting down half the field as you say against #2 and #3 WR’s for the last 7 years, LOL
Damn Raiders really held him back eh..
February 17th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
Young,
I’ll pause 10 mins so you can catch up, you might even come up with something logical I cant answer.
Waits..
February 17th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
If you want to disagree with literally everyone in and around the NFL about the guy’s skills, that’s your problem dude. I’m not going to debate with someone who obviously has an axe to grind.
Lots of bad and mediocre players have come and gone through the Raiders’ defense over the past couple decades. Nnamdi is not one of those players.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
YoungAmerican,
You’re surrounded by trolls.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
The failure of the Raiders to assign him the other team’s #1 WR is indeed one of many ways they failed to utilize him.
If the coaching staff let him roam around the field like Woodson was allowed to do when he was here, maybe the Raiders would still be on the hook for $17 million next season.
Does he help the Raiders win? Not really. Were the Raiders overpaying him? Yes, like they do to any good player they want to keep. But is he a bad player? No, and you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who knows anything about football to agree with you on that.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Asomugha shadowing the opponent’s best WR all game has been rare, but he faced off with the very best last year:
– Arizona Wide Receiver Larry Fitzgerald vs Raiders Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha.
Asomugha shadowed Fitzgerald most of the game and was targeted five times, he gave up only one catch for 18 yards to all-world receiver Larry Fitzgerald.
Fitzgerald’s other catch, an eight-yard touchdown late in the third quarter, came in zone coverage as Derek Anderson threaded a pass between linebackers.–
February 17th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Wide Receiver Larry Fitzgerald said “The thing you see on tape for a man of his size, he has incredible hips and amazingly quick feet, and that’s just God given ability to be that tall and be able to move and cut and drive on balls the way he’s able to.”
February 17th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Nnamdi isnt going anywhere and Lambardi has said alot of things about the raiders and obv has a grudge against the franchise…
February 17th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Raiders wil sign Mr. Nnamdi Asomugha!
on Silver & Black Pride, one post is sharing Hue’s tweets that Nnamdi will remain with Raider Nation!
Raiders will pay him $12.9 million, just over Revis’ salary, I reckon.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Raider Nation consensus (a plurality at the very least)is Stephen Wisniewski with our 2nd round pick.
Who for our 3rd?
February 17th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Hue doesn’t have Twitter.
February 17th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
3rd round = C Jake Kirkpatrick, TCU
February 17th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
r8eray Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Wide Receiver Larry Fitzgerald said “The thing you see on tape for a man of his size, he has incredible hips and amazingly quick feet, and that’s just God given ability to be that tall and be able to move and cut and drive on balls the way he’s able to.”
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Didn’t Nnamdi shadow Fitz and hold him to 2 or 3 short gains?
RRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEERSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 17th, 2011 at 10:15 pm
368.RaiderRetribution Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Raider Nation consensus (a plurality at the very least)is Stephen Wisniewski with our 2nd round pick.
Who for our 3rd?
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I think we need to trade up to early 2nd to get Wiz 2.0
February 17th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
We must get ahead of Tenn. They will draft Wiz in a heartbeat cause left guard Leroy Harris and center Eugene Amano were horrific this year. The Titans really need upgrades at both positions, Wiz would be able to fill either spot.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Heck even the Bills @ 34 may draft him. Thier o-line was not very good in 2010, and they very well may draft Kim Newton.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
This may br the year to trade our 2012 1st rndr for some 2011 2nd rnd picks.
What if Locker, and Wiz are there @ 48 when the RAIDERS pick? Or even in the early 2nd.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:25 pm
If Wiz 2.0 is really better than Pouncy he will NOT last tell pick 48.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Marcus Cannon in the 3rd? If Gallery walks?
What is the chance B. Campbell plays LG if 76 walks?
February 17th, 2011 at 10:27 pm
One good thing of Gallery leaving is Wix 2.0 can have #76.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Let Wiz play LG and get Jake Kirkpatrick to play C.
Veldheer-Wiz-Kirkpatrick-Campbell-??? maybe Hendo, Gaither,
Dont laugh, but Riy Schuing will get a look @ RG.
Wow we could use an up grade @ EVERY O-line posisition! Even LT.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
2.) Ijalana
3.) Kirkpatrick
February 17th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
Lombardi holds a grudge because he was fired by Al Davis. Like so many, Lombardi wanted to remain part of the organization.
Imagine being fired from a job you loved; that paid well, and then you get fired…unjustly you feel. It’d be pretty hard to sit there and say any positive things about them.
I don’t know all the circumstances behind Lombardi’s dismissal from Oakland, but I’m sure it was a real bummer for Lombardi.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
Can I say Lombardi one more time? I’m tired I guess.
It’s late in the midwest.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Raider Nation consensus (a plurality at the very least)is Stephen Wisniewski with our 2nd round pick.
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Wiz 2.0 along with Pouncey will be gone in the 1st round.
February 17th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Rest in Peace. ODB (There is no father to his Style) AKA Osirus, Dirt McGurt, Big Baby Jesus!!!!
February 17th, 2011 at 11:03 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 7:23 pm
YoungAmerican
I would like to see the Raiders have Casey Matthews fall in their lap in the 3rd round
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I want Casey Matthews in Round 3!
Getting Sidney Rice on this Raider WR corp would be ideal. S Moss would be a solid cheap pickup also
February 17th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
# YoungAmerican Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
3rd round = C Jake Kirkpatrick, TCU
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I would like that. Then we should draft Matthews with the 2nd Round pick….then snag Kirkpatrick in Round 3?
February 17th, 2011 at 11:10 pm
LB Casey Matthews Highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUz2o2a_OXA
February 17th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
More Matthews tape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpj1gZapEMI
February 17th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Lombardi would love to see Nnamdi leave the Raiders because he thinks that would severely hurt their chances. He knows they are poised to make a serious run.
February 17th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Then if they win all his crap about Mr Davis losing it will look like sour grapes. So he’s hoping for the worse.
February 17th, 2011 at 11:23 pm
Priesttj Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
Lombardi would love to see Nnamdi leave the Raiders because he thinks that would severely hurt their chances. He knows they are poised to make a serious run.
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You not only speak for Al Davis, but also Vince Lombardi?
February 17th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Potential future Raiders Weakside LB, Casey Matthews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmHoEGJZdUE&feature=related
February 17th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Geezus Krist Priest, you are connected!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 17th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Vince Lombardi has been dead for 20 years….
February 17th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Who is the DC? Is Al waiting to see what happens with the CBA before naming someone?
I think he is already on staff.
February 17th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
395. Unofficially it is and probably will be Chuck “Prevent D” Bresnahan.
Winston Moss is the outside choice probably but GBs Darren Perry’s been mentioned too…
February 17th, 2011 at 11:52 pm
389. Lombardi’s a hack. He’s still pouty about his time in Oakland.
Some of these guys, I swear. They’re claim to relevance is having suffered thru the Raider zoo, regailing others with their bulls**t fantasies of crazy ole Oakland.
Maybe, yes, maybe no, but truth is, right now?
Things are looking up in O town.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:56 am
All hail King Al.
Long live the King!
February 18th, 2011 at 2:02 am
Here are the 12 most dangerous cities in terms of crime risk:
City/ Crime Risk Index
1. Oakland 610
2. St. Louis: 530
3. Atlanta: 484
4. Birmingham Alabama (tie): 380
5. Orlando (tie): 380
6. Detroit: 369
7. Memphis: 361
8. Miami: 346
9. Baltimore: 339
10. Kansas City, Missouri: 337
11. Minneapolis (tie): 331
11. Cleveland (tie): 331
February 18th, 2011 at 4:44 am
Dirtee..
where is Boston, Pittsburgh and D.C on that list?
February 18th, 2011 at 4:46 am
CSN Bay Area’s Paul Gutierrez suggests the Raiders could end up franchising LG Robert Gallery instead of Zach Miller
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LOL!
I guess thats the only way to keep him from joining Tom Cable in Seattle and making the Pro Bowl 3 straight years?
February 18th, 2011 at 4:50 am
Good Morning Nation!
I’m gonna post a new topic for Jer,
2011 Wide Receivers
With a healthy(hopefully)Chaz Schilens, solid 2nd year man Jacoby Ford,Louis Murphy in his 3rd year, where does DHB fit in?
One thing is for sure, there will not be a huge impact player brought in by Davis. Ford’s potential is through the roof, Schilens can be a #1 based on his healthy play so that gives you 2 starters. Then Murphy and DHB battle for 3 & 4. A FA WR, would put DHB as the 5th WR. I’m sure like most of us, Davis believes this is DHB’s make or break year.
I expect DHB to be given the nod over Murphy, in the beginning, and perhaps steal some snaps from Chaz & Ford. Winning will dictate how long the DHB experiment can be strung out. If I’m DHB, I’m playing cath all off season with whatever out of work QB’s I can find.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:56 am
-Who is the DC? Is Al waiting to see what happens with the CBA before naming someone?
I think he is already on staff.
-Unofficially it is and probably will be Chuck “Prevent D” Bresnahan
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75 & N21,
Chuck B was a winner last time he served as a DC in Oakland. the only difference this time around might be a pathetic passing game (sub Gannon, Rice, Brown & Porter for Campbell, DHB, Murphy & Ford) yuck
Hue Jackson & Al Saunders have a tough task at hand
Let’s just hope that LT Veldheer and the young wideouts mature and improve QUICKLY. Repeat performances of last year = many losses
February 18th, 2011 at 5:11 am
RRS..
LOL, see post 58 =)
February 18th, 2011 at 5:16 am
If we keep Z. Miller and possibly bring in a 2nd TE during draft, as well as get a legit #1 WR in FA like S. Rice or if he is tagged Steve Smith (from NY), we would have a solid recieving squad!
Then all we would need would be a couple of improvements on the O-Line, for instance instance Gaither, Yanda or Kalil (if he isn’t franchised), and an interior Lineman through the draft.. Also, we still have Bruce Campbell who has all the potential in the world!
And JC will get another year under the same playcalling and with the same recieving squad which will definately benefit us a great deal!
Hope Big Al and HC make some good calls and deals, cause we’re definately not that far off if we can keep the core and supplement it with some key acquisitions..
February 18th, 2011 at 5:32 am
Franchising Gallery would make zero sense.
The guy gets hurt for months at a time. His market value should be like 3 years at $8 million total.
Franchising him would pay him close to $10 million in one year.
I hope Al doesn’t franchise anyone. You don’t have to frachise anybody, get people under contract is much more prudent.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:44 am
top of the morning nation,
wow, the words were flying around in here last night..trolls and counter trolls, some of the posts got downright ugly…
well to this point i like the progress we have made with the staff and re-signings. looking forward to the possibilities i am optimistic..
suppose dhb has a third year jump in production ala c branch, t brown, and others… and chaz can stay healthy. and ford contimues his stellar play,,, would you think we would have a good wr group.. would that be enough to get us to the post season??? will that lift our offense enough to make us hard to game plan for??
February 18th, 2011 at 5:47 am
At first I thought franchising Zach Miller wouldn’t be horrible, 6 million isn’t a lot of money for our leading receiver 4 years running (DHB makes more than that and Miller had more catches in Decemeber than DHB has for his career). Then I looked at Dallas Clarks contract, and he is only averaging 4.5 million, and Jason Witten is averaging only 2 million a year (but he did get 12 million in bonuses the first 2 years).
6 million is a little steep.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:49 am
Seymour was on the Morning Kickoff on Sirius this morning, I missed it, hopefully Jer gets a transcript posted.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:50 am
I expect Chuck Bresnahan to be named DC at some point, but I would suggest we make a play for Eric Mangini.
I know Mangini was offered the job way back in 2004 when he was the Pats DB coach, that was right after Bresnahan was fired, Mangini interviewed with Al Davis but declined and stayed in NE where he was promoted to Defensive Coordinator the next season and they won the Super Bowl.
Instead, Al Davis settled on Rob Ryan.
But that was then, when Mangini was a hot coaching prospect with a bright future who not only passed on the Raiders job, but also turned down offers from Miami and Cleveland.
Now Mangini is down, unemployed, having been fired from his last 2 jobs as Head Coach in NYJ and Cleveland, in fact, I just read that an UFL team wants to hire him as HC.
But he’s still a bright guy, who just turned 40 years old and has 5 years of experience as an NFL Head Coach, he’s seen plenty of stuff…..and people seem to forget he was the guy who laid out the fundation of the current New York Jets team and that the Browns roster sucked but still managed to earn a couple of impressive wins last year.
It may be a win-win situation for both, a 2 year deal for Mangini would allow him to get back in the NFL, concentrate on Defense and if succesful, he’ll have a chance to revive his career and get another shot at HC somewhere….meanwhile, the Raiders get the guy Al Davis had his eye on to rebuild his defense back in 04.
Obviuosly Mangini is a 3-4 guy, coming from the Parcells-Belichick tree, but he inherited a 4-3 defense in his 1st season in New York and made the playoffs, much like Belichick used to run a 4-3 when he first arrived at NE and won a SB with it.
Mangini should be smart enough to mix up both schemes and if Al still likes him, he’ll have plenty of freedom to do so.
If I remember correctly, Al Davis payed Rob Ryan good money, I think he was making something like 800 grand, so Mangini could get a decent offer as well and it’s not like he has a lot of options right now.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:53 am
i agree about not franchising anyone since we can’t tag nnamdi.. we do need to get bush, huff ,miller and nnamdi re-signed. if we can sign these four we will be ok if we have a season…
February 18th, 2011 at 6:03 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Rockstar, CW, LMN, JFB, Will, Bcz24, Marley and Harder…
How you fellas doing this early Friday AM?
Marley…I thought about Mangini, also…you know, why not?
February 18th, 2011 at 6:08 am
Morning Hwnrdr…
Yeah, probably daydreaming about Mangini but they should at least try.
I like the guy, he’ll bounce back in a couple of years.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:13 am
I agree! He reminds me of one of those guys that are good as a coordinator but sucks as a HC! Norv Turner would be the offensive counterpart!
February 18th, 2011 at 6:15 am
good morning hwnrdr and everybody, i don’t know much about mangini other than he had a spat with belicheat, that makes him alright in my book, but in view of the raiders having talks about d scheme it seems that bres is the guy,, i don’t have a lot of concern about him, he was adequate in his first stint..
February 18th, 2011 at 6:17 am
Morning Hwnrdr. Yeah Mangini might be worth a shot, and he might be willing to take the offer this time.. Only question is if he can work with Hue, or if Hue will se him as a threat to take the HC job if he doesn’t have great succes in the coming season – that might discourage the signing.. Although Al naturally has never really cared that much..
February 18th, 2011 at 6:18 am
Morning fellas. Daytona 500 this weekend… that is exciting, something to think about that isnt CBA related. LOL
February 18th, 2011 at 6:20 am
Hue doesn’t strike me as the type of personality to be looking over his shoulder at the other guys. That was Cables personality to me.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:21 am
HELL BCZ24,I THINK I COULD HANDLE THAT RACE,JUST TURN LEFT ALL DAY…GOOD DAY BY THE WAY.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:25 am
I think Hue has more of that, ‘I am HC and you are my assistant’ personality! Cable was like Campbell…always looking over his shoulder…
February 18th, 2011 at 6:28 am
I have some experience in Nascar (engine building, not racing) and I ask you this, what is the fastest you have ever driven? Be honest. These guys drive 200 mph closer together than you park next to people. There is a heck of a lot more than left turns happening… but I understand why most people would find it boring.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:29 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 6:25 am
I think Hue has more of that, ‘I am HC and you are my assistant’ personality! Cable was like Campbell…always looking over his shoulder…
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Yep. Hue definitely seems to be more assertive and confident.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:29 am
I went to the Nascar race in Vegas one year.
Most exciting part was the final turn (it was a close race) and the subsequent donut spinning in the infield.
The other 3 hours………boring as hell!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 6:31 am
A lot of posters seem concerned of Wiz 2.0 going ahead of where we pick and getting Matthews in the 3rd round.
I think Wiz could really move up the boards, but Kiper has him as 3rd rounder and McShay has a 4th round grade on him.
Both have Matthews as a 5th rounder.
They are not the be all end all of course, just wanted to provide a little perspective.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:41 am
I had a dream last night that Moss was named DC. I think it was a premonition.
Also, to continue last nights conversations, “Al Davis for President 2012!”
February 18th, 2011 at 6:45 am
BEEN 2 A FEW NASCAR RACES OVER THE YEARS BCZ24.WAS AT DAYTONA 500 IN 1988.HAVE LIFE LONG FRIEND WHO IS ON NASCAR BOARD (RULES COMMITIE)SO I GET AN ALL ACCESS PASS NOW ANN THEN.WAS JOKING..THE CONCENTRATION AND SKILL THESE DRIVERS HAVE IS HARD 2 DESCRIBE..
February 18th, 2011 at 6:48 am
bcz24 Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 6:28 am
I have some experience in Nascar (engine building, not racing) and I ask you this, what is the fastest you have ever driven? Be honest. These guys drive 200 mph closer together than you park next to people. There is a heck of a lot more than left turns happening… but I understand why most people would find it boring.
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I’m not a fan but my old man LOVES it! I’ve driven a couple of cars, my old Mustang & RX-7, at speeds around 120mph. I would be pissin myself going 200mph!!
February 18th, 2011 at 7:03 am
I’m not a fan but my old man LOVES it! I’ve driven a couple of cars, my old Mustang & RX-7, at speeds around 120mph. I would be pissin myself going 200mph!!
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Most of us COULDN’T drive at 200mph. Tunnel vision starts at about 180mph.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:07 am
Keep reading Draft stuff and Ohio State’s DE-DT Cameron Heyward remains underrated, I’d love to have him with the 48th pick, if he falls that far.
The kid looks to me like a sligthly smaller version of Richard Seymour with his ability to play inside and outside, Mike Waufle would certainly love to work with his talent and versatility.
DL is a strenght right now, but Heyward would be a terrific value pick and a cornerstone of the Line alongside Houston in a couple of years.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:24 am
How many draft picks do we have and what round? I know the 4th or 5th we traded for Campbell is a 2012 pick so I think we havee all but a 1st. Any extras?
February 18th, 2011 at 7:32 am
Well, looks like there were a lot of problems happening at work last night that I am only now aware of…so…
Happy Aloha Friday to you all!
February 18th, 2011 at 7:38 am
CW, he (DHB) would only be a decoy…..thats it!
Good Morning Crew!
February 18th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Broncos tried to trade Ryan Harris last season
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 18, 2011, 9:04 AM EST
Earlier in his four-year career, Denver’s Ryan Harris looked like a franchise cornerstone and one of the best right tackles in football.
After a slew of injuries and inconsistent play, the Broncos were ready to dump him last year. Josina Anderson of FootballProsLive.com reports that the team tried to trade Harris last season. The Bears reportedly showed the most interest, with the Raiders, Bills, Redskins, and Texans also in the mix.
Harris wound up starting the last eight games of the year, but an injured ankle before the trading deadline prevented a trade. By all indications, the Broncos are ready to move on from Harris, who is set to be an unrestricted free agent.
He’s only 25 years old and has 34 starts over the last three years, so he’ll make an high upside pickup for some team.
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Shame the Raiders are moving away from the ZBS, he would have been a perfect fit.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:49 am
No matter what, this must be DHB’s make or break season, hard to imagine the coaches giving him more chances if he doesn’t become a legit starter this year! Would love to see Big Al bring in WR Sid Rice and TE Owen Daniels while keeping Miller long term, that would definately upgrade our passing possibilities and give us one of the most talented groups in the league! Doubt it would happen, but an addition of a proven #1 WR would go along way! Murphy, Ford and the Chazmanian devil has all shown promise, and if DHB although a question mark, has proved he is willing to work his ass off, and could (hopefully) make a leap! Great talent in that group, but mainly it isn’t proven and therefore the addition of a legit #1 could really help us out!
February 18th, 2011 at 7:49 am
Michael Lombardi of NFL Network broke down Oakland’s chances of keeping their cornerback on Thursday’s Total Access.
“I think slim and none, and I would favor none,” Lombardi said. “Once Seymour’s deal was done, that eliminated Asomugha.”
February 18th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Too bad if awsome one goes, but not so sure he does.. He is highly comitted to the community and might prefer to stay at a reduced price.. Whatever his choice ends up being, he will always be a Raider..
February 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Michael Lombardi of NFL Network broke down Oakland’s chances of keeping their cornerback on Thursday’s Total Access.
“I think slim and none, and I would favor none,” Lombardi said. “Once Seymour’s deal was done, that eliminated Asomugha.”
SI’s Peter King wrote this week that Asomugha “wants to play elsewhere” and perhaps Oakland knew that when delving into their offseason plans and signing Seymour.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
dammit!, well lets hope they find a solution, it would be a shame to lose the township!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/18/AR2011021801480.html
February 18th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Sorry.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
Still, would require us to find a #1 cb, can’t seem to see any in FA (Cromartie and Carr more #2 guys imo), and without a pick in the 1st it will be hard to find an out the gate starter in the draft.. CJ isn’t cutting it, not even as a second cb..
February 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
KK
you were at Christiania, for a visit, rite?
February 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
If Nnamdi goes, let Routt walk too. Re-sign Huff, and sign free agent CBs Antonio Cromartie and Jonathan Joseph.
I’m still not convinced it’s a “sure thing” that he walks. Probably more around 50/50. No one really knows until other teams can put their offers on the table.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:58 am
LMN
I missed Christiania when I was there, where is it?
February 18th, 2011 at 8:02 am
YA, if we were to sign Joseph and Cromartie…I would be GEEKED!!
February 18th, 2011 at 8:05 am
Kiddie Playstation GM’s:
Cromartie has fathered nine children with eight women living in six states, and has been named in at least five paternity suits in the past two years.[15] According to court records, Cromartie failed to appear in court on two separate occasions in reference to moving violations and his driver license status.[16] In March 2010, the Jets provided Cromartie with a $500,000 advance so Cromartie could make outstanding child support payments.”[17]
On July 2, 2010, Cromartie married Terricka Cason who starred on E!’s “Candy Girls.”[17] Cason gave birth to a daughter, Jerzie, in April 2010. [17
February 18th, 2011 at 8:09 am
Brent Grimes, anyone?
February 18th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Chiming back in for a moment…
What is this I hear about Aso to the Eagles?
February 18th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Eagles are the front runner!
Eagles president Joe Banner wouldn’t rule out going after free agent Nnamdi Asomugha for salary cap reasons.
It was suspected by some that LCB Asante Samuel’s big contract would preclude the Eagles from throwing more money at Asomugha. Banner’s comments at least leave the door open for the Eagles to join the Asomugha derby when free agency commences.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Colts cut Bob Sanders
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 18, 2011, 11:30 AM EST
Bob Sanders, the safety whose tremendous talent has been overshadowed by his inability to stay healthy, has been released by the Indianapolis Colts.
Colts owner Jim Irsay revealed the news on Twitter, using 140 characters to thank Sanders for his contributions to the Colts and note that Sanders had earned a Super Bowl ring, picked off a pass in the Super Bowl and won a defensive player of the year award during his time in Indianapolis.
When he’s healthy, Sanders is nothing short of one of the best players in the NFL. He had an impact on the Colts’ defense that few players in the league can match, which is why at the end of the 2007 season he was named the NFL’s defensive player of the year and rewarded with a contract that made him the league’s highest-paid safety.
But he just hasn’t been able to stay on the field since then: In the last three seasons Sanders has played in nine regular-season games and missed 39.
Sanders has indicated that he knows he’s going to need to take a pay cut, and the Colts may still be able to re-sign him. But first he’ll test the free agent market. He’s free to sign, right now, with any team that’s willing to take a chance on a talented but injury-plagued former star.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Didn’t the Colts trade up a few spots ahead of the Raiders that draft, to get Bob Sanders?
He would look nice in S&B if Huff leaves…
February 18th, 2011 at 8:40 am
Al, GO GET SANDERS….NOW!!!!!!!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 8:45 am
He was nicknamed “The Hitman” because of his hard hits and tackles, “IR” because of his constant injuries, and was also named by former Colts’ coach Tony Dungy “The Eraser” because he tends to erase the mistakes of his teammates.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:46 am
Bob Sanders? The guy that can’t stay on the field?
February 18th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Nnamdi money could get us Cromartie+Joseph+Sanders= SB!
February 18th, 2011 at 9:01 am
R8eray,
Every player who’s cut in the NFL, is your secret to the Raiders going to the Super Bowl?
How old are you, 15?
February 18th, 2011 at 9:01 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 7:56 am
If Nnamdi goes, let Routt walk too. Re-sign Huff, and sign free agent CBs Antonio Cromartie and Jonathan Joseph.
I’m still not convinced it’s a “sure thing” that he walks. Probably more around 50/50. No one really knows until other teams can put their offers on the table.
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Just in case you missed it yesterday, Stan Routt’s #s for 2010:
99 targets, 39 receptions allowed (39.4% completion rate against) 4 TDs allowed (Revis allowed 5 in 13 receptions against)
This dudes stats say he is the third best cornerback in the league right now, and consider the number of targets he gets playing opposite nnamdi, and the fact that he regularly covers #1 receivers his numbers are nothing short of outstanding. The pass interference #s are a concern, but every DB wearing the silver and black get those calls so I wouldnt use that to eliminate him. To let him walk (considering we pay him something like 3 million) would be plain stupid.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:03 am
KK, I’m 33…half your age!
February 18th, 2011 at 9:04 am
Geez!
February 18th, 2011 at 9:04 am
r8eray Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 9:03 am
KK, I’m 33…half your age!
1/3
February 18th, 2011 at 9:06 am
In the last three seasons Sanders has played in nine regular-season games and missed 39.
Sanders knows he’s going to need to take a pay cut for his career to continue, and the Colts may still be able to re-sign him at a significantly reduced salary. But first he’ll test the free agent market. He’s free to sign, right now, with any team that’s willing to take a chance on a talented but injury-plagued former star.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:08 am
400, my bad..I GOT 99 PROBLEMS AND KK IS ONE!
February 18th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Statistics don’t tell the whole story, but they would still tell you that on top of Routt’s 12 PIs, he gave up 6 TD passes, just a couple fewer than Tyvon Branch (who most here had proclaimed as the weak link in the secondary). Routt is also a terrible tackler, isn’t physical enough to keep up with guys much slower than him (Jacob Tamme, for instance), and loses focus far too easily (the wide-open Bowe TD being a primary example of that). And considering how often he was targeted, he made very few plays.
That said, he’s not a terrible player all-around. But he’s going to be making far more than $3 million if Al chooses to re-sign him. And I’m not convinced that ONE SEASON of respectable play has earned him a several million dollar pay bump. That to me is the key… the kid has been good for one season, and it was a contract year.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:25 am
If Nnamdi walks, I don’t think we chase big names FA CBs, I think we resign Routt and draft CBs. It’s the kind of player All likes to draft high anyway, and he can’t draft hsi other fave, a WR, without admitting that DHB is a failure.
Mind you, I’m not inclined to believe that Nnamdi is absolutely going. I think he might resign as long as he gets a little more than what Revis gets, something in the $12-$13 range. They might even give him the same $15 they’re giving Seymour, despite what Al said.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:36 am
YoungAmerican Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 9:09 am
Statistics don’t tell the whole story, but they would still tell you that on top of Routt’s 12 PIs, he gave up 6 TD passes, just a couple fewer than Tyvon Branch (who most here had proclaimed as the weak link in the secondary). Routt is also a terrible tackler, isn’t physical enough to keep up with guys much slower than him (Jacob Tamme, for instance), and loses focus far too easily (the wide-open Bowe TD being a primary example of that). And considering how often he was targeted, he made very few plays.
That said, he’s not a terrible player all-around. But he’s going to be making far more than $3 million if Al chooses to re-sign him. And I’m not convinced that ONE SEASON of respectable play has earned him a several million dollar pay bump. That to me is the key… the kid has been good for one season, and it was a contract year.
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Stats inc says he gave up 4 TDs not 6. Im going to go with their numbers since people pay them to generate them. How many times in those 12 PI’s did you look at it and say huh? and just know that that probably wouldnt be PI 9 times out of 10. Truthfully, 12 PIs in 99 targets in a bump and run system isnt that much. It is very much an area for improvement, but just be careful what you wish for man… Routt and Nnamdi walk and our pass defense goes from top 5 top last in a big time hurry.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:36 am
424.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 6:31 am
A lot of posters seem concerned of Wiz 2.0 going ahead of where we pick and getting Matthews in the 3rd round.
I think Wiz could really move up the boards, but Kiper has him as 3rd rounder and McShay has a 4th round grade on him.
Both have Matthews as a 5th rounder.
They are not the be all end all of course, just wanted to provide a little perspective.
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Kiper and McShay are full of it and they are trying to devalue them. I know better, than listening to those fluffed up talking heads.
Wiz will go in Round 2 and Matthews will go no later than Round 3 IMO.
Legacy, bloodline type players with HIGH football IQ’s and natural football instincts are rare.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:42 am
Colts just released BOB Sanders . I still think he can be a starter . Maybe a 1 year try out ?
February 18th, 2011 at 9:45 am
9.General Bauce Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Lol apology would be accepted MR IF I WAS A REP…..but dems cry too much for me….fact is you used Rummy’s comment as a blanket to label Republicans elite hate us….im sure Dem elites aint feeling us either then
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Rumsfeld is a piece of crap…got that….bosh?
LOL
February 18th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Stats inc says he gave up 4 TDs not 6. Im going to go with their numbers since people pay them to generate them. How many times in those 12 PI’s did you look at it and say huh? and just know that that probably wouldnt be PI 9 times out of 10. Truthfully, 12 PIs in 99 targets in a bump and run system isnt that much. It is very much an area for improvement, but just be careful what you wish for man… Routt and Nnamdi walk and our pass defense goes from top 5 top last in a big time hurry.
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You’re right, it is 4 TDs, my bad.
Regardless, as I said above, statistics never tell the entire story. There were about three PI calls that I can remember thinking were BS, but the vast majority of them would get called every single time. Still, I’m more concerned about his lapses in concentration and the fact that his 6′2 frame with 4.2 speed doesn’t translate to the field.
He was a disaster in every single season but last season. Considering a new deal will net him anywhere between $5 and $7 million, wouldn’t you rather see that money go to a guy who has been able to get it done in more than just one contract year?
The pass defense is going to look completely different regardless. We’re looking at a situation where there’s a good chance (even if it isn’t a certainty) that Nnamdi will leave, and Huff and Routt are both free agents.
There’s no way that the pass defense is going to be #2 in the league without Nnamdi. That number was a statistical anomaly based on the fact that every QB in the league avoids his side of the field, and that most teams can manage to run the ball against the Raiders when they need to so why risk it?
If the Raiders build up the other areas of the team, they don’t need the #2 pass defense in the league. But they need corners who can perform consistently and make plays, and Routt’s 6 seasons in the NFL have proven to be anything but consistent.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Buenos dias mis Raider bros.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Holla DMAC
February 18th, 2011 at 9:55 am
Wassup OG
So Bob just cut?
The dude is a hella of a player when healthy, but always seems to be injured. How about we sign him and move him to FS if Huff walks?
February 18th, 2011 at 9:59 am
I think Sanders would be a great asset for stopping the run. Put that guy in the box and make Qb’s throw. Not as good in coverage as Huff, but that guy can tackle .
February 18th, 2011 at 10:00 am
CSN Bay Area’s Paul Gutierrez suggests the Raiders could end up franchising LG Robert Gallery instead of Zach Miller.
Gutierrez is basing the theory on the assumption that Miller, with four years experience, will be a restricted free agent under the new CBA. It’s quite possible that four-year players will end up unrestricted. Gallery would earn roughly $10.1 million under the tag, a raise of more than $4 million.
Source: CSN Bay Area
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Hell to the NO!!!!!!!!!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 10:01 am
$10 million for Robert Gallery? PG is smoking rocks.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:02 am
I don’t know OG. Sanders seems to always be making plays.
Sanders= Ball hawk
But those injuries, man.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:03 am
According to NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi, Richard Seymour’s $30 million contract leaves the Raiders with a “slim and none” chance of re-signing free agent Nnamdi Asomugha.
“And I would favor none,” Lombardi said. “Once Seymour’s deal was done, that eliminated Asomugha. Seymour got over $22 million in guaranteed money. Now the Raiders can place the franchise tag on TE Zach Miller, keeping him off the market … Asomugha is going to be the top free agent when we get to free agency this offseason, and he’s going to command a huge deal, something the Raiders can’t really pay.”
Source: NFL.com
February 18th, 2011 at 10:08 am
he Broncos reportedly attempted to deal RT Ryan Harris before last season’s trade deadline.
They talked trade with the Raiders, Bills, Redskins, Texans, and Bears. Of those teams, the Bears “had the strongest possibility” of acquiring Harris. A six-week ankle injury likely scuttled Chicago’s plans to strike a deal. Harris is due to hit free agency this offseason. The Broncos have made it clear that he’s not a priority, so expect them to move on at right tackle.
Related: Raiders, Bears, Texans, Bills, Redskins
Source: FootballPros.com
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Sign him Al!!!!!!!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Sanders plays 3 games a year and is hurt the other 13. Why bother. Ryan Harris isnt a fit for Hue’s new power blocking scheme. Why do people assume we cant afford to pay Nnamdi? Thats just silly. 1. our financials are not public record, so they are guessing and 2. there is no cap at this point, and a very small chance that there will be one next year. The owners arent going to reinstate a salary cap without ample time to prepare for it. Not to mention salary caps are easy to manipulate.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Nnamdi choosing to play somewhere else will be the only reason he leaves. If it comes down to money making the decision he will be an Oakland Raider next year.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:20 am
As far as I’m concerned, the only thing that is for sure is that Al isn’t going to pay Nnamdi $17 million like his contract dictated.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Nnamdi re-signed to a similar deal to the one Revis got. It’ll save the Raiders about $6 million.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:25 am
I said all along Al will offer Nnamdi 12-13 million to stay, maybe a little less with a longer term deal and some incentive bonuses. I just get annoyed with the talking heads who simply assume Oakland is a wasteland and there no way Nnamdi could want to stay here.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Lombardo is an idiot.
I guess he thinks we would have had a better chance at sigining Nnamdi if we simply applied the franchise tag and gave him a 20% raise, lol. Seymour made 14 million last year. My limited math skills says that would’ve put his franchise salary at 17 million next year.
Instead we sign Seymour to 22 million over 2 years with 7 of that as a signing bonus. 15 million base over 2 years = 7.5 million, right?
Yeah, we have no chance of signing Nnamdi, lol.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:26 am
Isn’t Ryan Harris more of a ZBS guy? Seem to remember him being pushed around pretty good the last game of the season? But then again, they all were.. Still think Yanda and Gaither is more of a possibility, but naturally requires that Hue and Saunders think they are good fits – and they should know..
If Kalil isnt tagged, it could be great to pick him up.. Although he isn’t the biggest C, he fights to the whistle and is very good at recognizing the blitz..
Looking forward to seeing if Veldheer can develope and become a legit starter, if he can – and he seems very adaptable to the NFL, we have one less problem on the Line..
February 18th, 2011 at 10:28 am
It’s not like we have this 20 million dollar QB to sign folks.
So what if we spend $ on our defense.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:29 am
If Kalil hits the open market, he’s going to get a big contract. Raiders would be better off looking to the draft to find a center.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Might, but not that many great Centers in the draft.. Not to start out the gate anyway.. And Kalil has that mean streak mentality, would fit great with the ‘build a bully’ theme..
February 18th, 2011 at 10:32 am
if nnamdi walks (god forbid) draft robert sands let him start at fs and move huff to corner.. don’t know what you guys are talking about but routt is poised to be a great corner for years to come.. nnamdi had the same kind of hate in here his first years in the league.. soooo put the controller down and watch and listen to real football.. this is not your fantasy league
February 18th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Nnamdi was a converted safety who took about three years to adjust to the position switch.
Routt has been a corner his entire career, and has had ONE good season.
Huff is not going to get moved to corner. Nor should he be.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Routt did have a better season, but he gave up waaaaaay too many TD’s.
Plus those PI calls that don’t show up in the stats.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:37 am
# Harder2000 Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Might, but not that many great Centers in the draft.. Not to start out the gate anyway.. And Kalil has that mean streak mentality, would fit great with the ‘build a bully’ theme..
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The draft is actually shaping up to be pretty deep with interior linemen. Pouncey, Wisniewski, Kirkpatrick, Linnenkohl, and Fusco are all worth a look. All of those guys but Pouncey will likely be available for the Raiders.
Raiders probably can’t afford Kalil unless they let Nnamdi and Huff both walk.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:39 am
Who the hell is Routt going to turn to for help at lining up every play, if Nnamdi walks???????
February 18th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Think both Pouncey and Wiz Jr. will be gone, but youre right, several interior linemen in the later rounds – just not sure they will be an upgrde out the gate.. Time will show, hope youre right, cause dont think we would get Kalil anyway.. Wouldnt be mad though, think he would be a good fit..
Hope the salary cap leaves us some room to act on some FA’s..
February 18th, 2011 at 10:44 am
DMAC Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Routt did have a better season, but he gave up waaaaaay too many TD’s.
Plus those PI calls that don’t show up in the stats.
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4. He gave up 4 TDs in 99 pass attempts against him. I dont know what you expect from your starting cornerback but by comparison Revis gave up 5 TDs in 56 attempts against him. Oh and the first 5 years of his career were spent on the bench or covering slot guys, many successful edge corners are not very good cover the slot.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am
And lets not forget that the guy credited with helping Nnamdi become the Corner he is is now our DB’s coach.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Hope the salary cap leaves us some room to act on some FA’s..
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There is no salary cap in the NFL.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Please don’t compare Routt w/ Revis.
Please.
Stats isn’t everything, my dude.
Look at a Jets game.
Look at A Raiders game.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Routt = 1 decent (CONTRACT) season
February 18th, 2011 at 10:50 am
DMAC Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Please don’t compare Routt w/ Revis.
Please.
Stats isn’t everything, my dude.
Look at a Jets game.
Look at A Raiders game.
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Dont tell me Routt gives up WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY too many TDs when he gave up 4. Stats dont mean everything, but they have to account for SOMETHING or else they wouldnt be kept.
Make no mistake, I am not saying Routt is Revis. Just trying to get you guys to wrap your heads around a point which seems to be a waste of effort on my part.
We could do a LOT worse than Stanford Routt as our CB. Trust me. Be careful what you wish for.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:50 am
DMAC Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Routt = 1 decent (CONTRACT) season
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DMAC = 1 (injury prone) decent season
Dont see anyone calling for him to be cut.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:55 am
DMAC decent?
He literally put that offense on his back.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:57 am
I didn’t wish him to leave. I just said he gave up way too TD’s + PI calls.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:02 am
FOUR TDs is too many? Literally 4% of pass attempts against him net TDs.
I just used DMAC as a comparison because he improved this year, as did Routt. Finally. Give him another year and see if it was aberation or if the move to the edge was what he needed to finally get on track.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:03 am
D-Mac is a beast, really came through this year!
Routt had e pretty decent year, but is naturally no where near Awsome One 21 level.. Still think Routt would be wise to retain at a decent salary, cause compared to most other teams, he proved to be a pretty solid number 2 guy..
CJ is way worse, shouldn’t even be the primary back-up, he gets burned so often its unbelievable.. Seems that his good season play is long gone..
February 18th, 2011 at 11:05 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Lots of speculation about us not being able to do this or that…
Draft picks?? If Al wants somebody — REALLY wants somebody — he’ll go get him. Trade other draft picks to do it? You bet. Move up? Maybe not into the 1st, but who knows? And, there is a load of talent to be had in Rounds 2-4 this year.
Free Agents?? If Al really wants somebody — from here, or elsewhere — he’ll go get him.
Trades?? Hmmm…Seems Al ain’t afraid to do that either. Made some pretty good ones lately, too!
Money?? If Al really wants to keep a guy — like Nnamdi — he’ll find the money.
Ummm…when’s the CBA deadline?? Coupla weeks still?
I can feel the Trade-winds a’blowin
February 18th, 2011 at 11:05 am
There are other options out there in free agency. I just don’t want Routt to get a fat contract coming off 1 decent season.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Bcz24,
491^^^^^^^^^^^^^???????
February 18th, 2011 at 11:07 am
DMAC Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:05 am
There are other options out there in free agency. I just don’t want Routt to get a fat contract coming off 1 decent season.
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Routts contract will be comeasurate with his play, in the 3-5 million range.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Routt could be a decent #2 CB if he continues to play the way he did last season. As far as I’m concerned, that’s a big if.
He hasn’t showed anything that would lead me to believe he can be a #1 CB for the Raiders, though. If Nnamdi walks, the Raiders still need to find someone who can be that guy.
Antonio Cromartie is the same way as Routt, but at least Cromartie has had more than one good season. 2009 was a poor year for him, but he bounced back nicely in 2010.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:08 am
CJ had a pretty good season and was rewarded with a contract in 2009, 4 year, $11.5 mill as i recall.. Routt would most likely get something around that..
February 18th, 2011 at 11:08 am
DMAC Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Bcz24,
491^^^^^^^^^^^^^???????
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That was ignored because of the obvious hyperbole, but he can look to our new DB coach to make sure his is lined up properly.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:08 am
That wouldn’t be too bad. If in deed it happens.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:09 am
Harder2000 Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:08 am
CJ had a pretty good season and was rewarded with a contract in 2009, 4 year, $11.5 mill as i recall.. Routt would most likely get something around that..
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4 years 11.5 million is peanuts to pay a starter. Our punter makes more than that.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:10 am
You don’t ever remember Routt looking at Nnamdi for help, when lining up?
February 18th, 2011 at 11:13 am
He hasn’t showed anything that would lead me to believe he can be a #1 CB for the Raiders, though. If Nnamdi walks, the Raiders still need to find someone who can be that guy
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Like I said, Routt already covers the best WR on the field 70% of the time. Larry Fitzgerald is the only #1 WR that Nnamdi shadowed last year. The amount of time that Nnamdi is ignored put Routt in a much tougher position than being the “#1 guy”. If Nnamdi leaves the balls will be dispersed to both sides of the field, and you may find that Routt gets better, not worse.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Just how can Al Davis avert a lockout when the owners have to be angry at him right now for what he’s paying Seymour? Here the owners are crying “broke”, and Al’s breaking the bank! And there are some here who think that Al is going to get these same owners ears’ and avert a lockout? Ha ha ha! Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 11:13 am
DMAC Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:10 am
You don’t ever remember Routt looking at Nnamdi for help, when lining up?
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Didnt say he NEVER looked for help, but you also inferred that he couldnt line up without Nnamdi directing him at at all.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:14 am
Bcz24, wasnt saying it was too much – merely pointing out that the CJ and Routt situations might be rewarded equally.. They thought CJ was our future number 2 guy, ha recieved that contract, now they think its Routt, and he might recieve the same kind of deal.. Personally i would be satisfied to keep Routt as a number two with that contract.. Another matter if they pay him as a number one, cause i dont think he can become that..
February 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Another matter if they pay him as a number one, cause i dont think he can become that..
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What makes a CB a “number 1″ CB?? Nnamdi goes out on the field and can eat a sandwich most days for the amount of looks he gets. Routt puts in more work than almost any #1 CB out there!
February 18th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Well, if he stays I hope Rod can kick some football knowledge to that dude. There’s no reason you shouldn’t know where to be lined up at during a game. Do you remember the KC game? What the hell was he doing, when he left Bowe all alone for that free TD?
February 18th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
Franchising Gallery would make zero sense.
The guy gets hurt for months at a time. His market value should be like 3 years at $8 million total.
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Vegas, Baby — 3 years for $8M total? There is NO player coming out of college (or proven on the roster) that you could guarantee will out-play Gallery at the G spot.
As for his injuries…that dude came back from spinal fusion surgery to play, and played well. Some “injuries,” like appendectomies, are things no player should be criticized for, they just happen. it’s not like he stubs his toe and cries.
Gallery is arguably just short of being one of the top guards in the NFL — is definitely in the top half of them — and would be way too risky to lose and try and replace with a kid who might not be ready.
We could lose Gallery, and still have an OK line…but, are we building a solid line, or tearing it apart and starting over? Start over, and it’s a big step backward.
No Franchise Tag for Gallery…get the extension done at fair market value.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:21 am
DeMaurice Smith has to love Al Davis. At the next negotiation I can just hear him: “I’m supposed to believe you guys are going broke, with the money that Al Davis, the owner of a small market team, btw, can afford to give Richard Seymour?”. The union will never budge now. Al must think he still has Upshaw over there.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:22 am
Do you remember the KC game? What the hell was he doing, when he left Bowe all alone for that free TD?
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You are right, if Bowe was indeed his responsibility on that play… No way to be sure of that, you can only guess.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Hayez… Gallery isnt worth 10 million dollars. Thats why JFB doesnt want to tag him. The tag number for Olineman is north of 10 million.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Yeah, I assumed. But you would think that MM would cover the TE and Routt would cover Bowe.
You are right about Routt covering, opponents best WR. I give him credit for that.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Point taken, as our scheme dont shadow as lot as other teams, but this year 21 did it more often though (not entire games, but more snaps).. In our scheme, to me, our number one should be the one who can take care of his WR predominantly alone – and the number two then recieves more help from especially the Safeties.. If we have two Routt quality players we would by no means have a crappy secondary, imo at least, but we would demand a lot more from our safeties as we wouldnt have a 21 anymore.. I realize that most teams dont have a cb with a level near 21, but as he have been our #1 in some years now, that is what the comparison falls on – #1 money therefore in this comparison is money in the 21, Revis, Woodson league..
February 18th, 2011 at 11:25 am
I think Loper covered fairly well for Gallery.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Routt, McFadden, and Ware will all be decent corners for us.
That’s a better 3 than Pitts had starting for them in the SB, lol.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Bcz…I get that. I don’t want to waste a Tag on Gallery, either.
RGallery is a great Raiders asset. He is a fan fave, and he puts time into community events right here. He has embraced the Raiders, and their “ways,” from the onset. He’s a great teammate and locker room presence, and he gives it his all on the field.
Pay the man his fair share…and it doesn’t have to be $10M per.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Wouldn’t mind seeing Jonathan Joseph and Stanford Routt being the starters. But if it’s Johnson and Routt with no Huff behind them? That doesn’t exactly inspire confidence.
Huff isn’t great by any means, but he’s the best single-deep FS on the free agent market, and there aren’t a lot of guys in the draft who look the part. Sands could be good, but could he step into Huff’s role right away without a dropoff?
If Huff walks, I’d still like to see Jarrad Page brought in to compete with Stevie Brown.
But my biggest fear is Huff and Asomugha walking, and Routt being resigned for big money with Johnson, McFadden or a rookie across from him.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:31 am
He is a fan fave
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Sorry, Hayez
But I totally have to disagree w/ you on that one.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Walter showed some great reactions and ballhawking skills in pre season, to bad he was torched in the regular season.. Let’s hope he adds some bulk and improves so he can become a contributer next year! Ware as well, although he had some decent moments this season as well..
February 18th, 2011 at 11:32 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:05 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Lots of speculation about us not being able to do this or that…
Draft picks?? If Al wants somebody — REALLY wants somebody — he’ll go get him. Trade other draft picks to do it? You bet. Move up? Maybe not into the 1st, but who knows? And, there is a load of talent to be had in Rounds 2-4 this year.
Free Agents?? If Al really wants somebody — from here, or elsewhere — he’ll go get him.
Trades?? Hmmm…Seems Al ain’t afraid to do that either. Made some pretty good ones lately, too!
Money?? If Al really wants to keep a guy — like Nnamdi — he’ll find the money.
Ummm…when’s the CBA deadline?? Coupla weeks still?
I can feel the Trade-winds a’blowin
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Ya. Al wanted Hall. Hows 70 mil sound, Hall?
Al wanted Gabril. Yo, Gabril? Wat you worth? How’s double that sound?
Al wanted Walker. How about 55 mil, and I’ll let you ride the pine, Javon?
JR? You’re the worst. Here’s top dollar.
Paying record amounts isn’t a plus, and it shows you feel you have to, in order to keep/get players.
Bey’s 22 mil was stupid. Paying players record amounts when they become FA’s, instead of getting it done the year before, is also stupid.
Al has no concept of negotiations, at all. He stupidly pays out, through the nose, for record amounts, and then thinks he did good.
other equally slow people, such as yourself, also think he did good.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:33 am
# J Hill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Routt, McFadden, and Ware will all be decent corners for us.
That’s a better 3 than Pitts had starting for them in the SB, lol.
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Apples and oranges. Different defensive schemes. Steelers are built around bringing constant pressure from different positions. They play a lot of zone. They also have Polamalu in the secondary.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Walter can eventually come around. But he doesn’t have elite size by any means, so he’ll have a steeper learning curve if he’s going to continue playing in a scheme where he’s playing man-to-man on 90% of the snaps.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:35 am
McFadden has ONE bad quarter against Miami.
Ware got beat for a TD against Pitts.
Makes no sense that these guys didn’t get more PT last year. Especially once we were out of the playoff hunt.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:35 am
It’s why Chris Carr was never considered a starting-caliber CB here, but seems to have caught on in Baltimore.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Unless we are ending Cable’s experiment of putting our “franchise LT” at LG, and reinstating the man to his rightful position, there is no way in heck we are tagging Gallery.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:40 am
YA,
This is the NFL mayne. I expect CBs in the league to be able to play man to man defense. I also realize that the other guys are getting paid too, and will beat a CB from time to time.
I think we’ll be fine with Routt, McFadden, Ware, and CJ37 as our 4 corners if it ends up that way.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Only problem is Gallery was bsically a bust a LT. If not playing guard, he’s likely a backup tackle
February 18th, 2011 at 11:44 am
The one FA left I’d franchise is …..
wait for it …
Mike Huff!
February 18th, 2011 at 11:46 am
424.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 6:31 am
A lot of posters seem concerned of Wiz 2.0 going ahead of where we pick and getting Matthews in the 3rd round.
I think Wiz could really move up the boards, but Kiper has him as 3rd rounder and McShay has a 4th round grade on him.
Both have Matthews as a 5th rounder.
They are not the be all end all of course, just wanted to provide a little perspective.
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Kiper and McShay are full of it and they are trying to devalue them. I know better, than listening to those fluffed up talking heads.
Wiz will go in Round 2 and Matthews will go no later than Round 3 IMO.
Legacy, bloodline type players with HIGH football IQ’s and natural football instincts are rare.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:46 am
With CJ as our starter he would have to prove something way different from what he did last season – he was torched and ripped apart all the time when they threw him in! Realize that he fought some nagging injuries, but still, no where near starter potential!
February 18th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Gallery played 1 year at LT under the Bed and Breakfast offense. I would have liked to see what he could’ve done outside of that. Afterall we did draft him #2 overall. Of course he could play G. He played well at RT his first year, and their was no reason, imo, to think he couldn’t be a decent LT.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:47 am
540.J Hill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:44 am
The one FA left I’d franchise is …..
wait for it …
Mike Huff!
^^^^^^^
How much would Raiders dish out for one year if they franchised Huff Daddy?
Regardless…Huff needs to stay on this team!
February 18th, 2011 at 11:47 am
i’m telling you guys put down the controller, turn off the tv, totally erase what is said on fantasy football.. if you watch real tv you will see that routt is one of the top ten cover corners in THIS league… ot is a good thing routt and nnamdi talk before every snap!! if you watch this guy you will see there is no wr who can outrun him.. he is always shoulder to shoulder, it is part of the reason why he gets called for pi so lften most of the calls are phantom contact.. nnamdi played corner and safety at cal.. it takes two or three years for a db to adjust and learn the pro game… very few guys can comae in and play corner or safety the first year or two…
February 18th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Kiper and McShay are full of it and they are trying to devalue them.
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Why do you say that?
February 18th, 2011 at 11:49 am
I have no idea DK.
I know Ed Reed is making about 6 million a year, and Sanders was just cut. Avg of the top 5 couldn’t be more than 4-5 million a year?
February 18th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Both Huff and Routt should be brought back, especially if rumors are true and Awsome One leaves, they will be needed big time then!
February 18th, 2011 at 11:50 am
# J Hill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:40 am
YA,
This is the NFL mayne. I expect CBs in the league to be able to play man to man defense. I also realize that the other guys are getting paid too, and will beat a CB from time to time.
I think we’ll be fine with Routt, McFadden, Ware, and CJ37 as our 4 corners if it ends up that way.
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I’m sure that’s what Al thought about DeAngelo Hall. But it’s clear that he wasn’t a fit for the way the Raiders play defense.
There’s no shortage of players in this league who couldn’t hold up playing man-to-man 90% of the time. Sometimes, sure. 90% of the time? Much harder to do.
The good thing about having Nnamdi on board was that Huff could shift to one side of the field and help the other corners over the top, and leave Nnamdi on an island alone.
The Raiders might lose the ability to do that, but with a key free agent signing and/or a good draft choice, I don’t see the dropoff as being too much for the Raiders to handle.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Harder2000 Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Walter showed some great reactions and ballhawking skills in pre season, to bad he was torched in the regular season.. Let’s hope he adds some bulk and improves so he can become a contributer next year! Ware as well, although he had some decent moments this season as well..
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McFadden played terribly against Miami. Some of the worst CB play you will ever see, but the guy tore his hammy in practice, and was reinserted into the line up much too soon IMO. He was never 100% last year, and it was horrible coaching to have no other option available in the Miami game to help Wheezy. Ware and Wheezy both have some upside, and Woodson coaching them can only help.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Does anyone have any statistics on Brandon Carr from KC? From what i saw he looked pretty good at times, but how was his entire season?
February 18th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Franchise a FS like Huff would be worth about 9.65 million.
The Raiders would be wise to try and get him to resign for a 4 year deal or something.
Or maybe Transition him, and if someone makes him an offer, then Raiders would have to match. If they don’t match, then they get picks.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:53 am
# J Hill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:44 am
The one FA left I’d franchise is …..
wait for it …
Mike Huff!
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I agree, just because I have his jersey and don’t want it to be worthless. Gives me an extra year of fashion.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I watch football, not the box score. If you’re depending on statistics for your evaluation of players, you’re missing the most important aspects of the game.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:54 am
547.J Hill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:49 am
I have no idea DK.
I know Ed Reed is making about 6 million a year, and Sanders was just cut. Avg of the top 5 couldn’t be more than 4-5 million a year?
^^^^^^^
I just looked…I think it is like 9.2 million or something for the FS position?
February 18th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Bcz24, yeah, hope Wood can help them grow.. WMac seemed pretty smart, and Ware has some fire to him.. Only thing is their size, to bad they cant grow an inch or two, but thats naturally no deal breaker, lets hope they developes..
February 18th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Franchise and Transition Tag Projections below:
http://www.footballforum.com/nfl-general-discussion/116326-2011-franchise-transition-tag-projections.html
February 18th, 2011 at 11:56 am
That can’t be right DK.
Avg of the top 5 FS in the league can’t be 9 million.
Who are the top 5?
February 18th, 2011 at 11:57 am
If anyone should be tagged either franchise or transitional it is MBush.
Raise your hands if you think McSkinnylegs can last an entire 16 game season let alone an 18 game season plus playoffs without a hammie, a turf toe or a tweaked knee.
Anyone? Didn’t think so.
February 18th, 2011 at 11:57 am
YoungAmerican, true, statistics only tells so much, but i doubt to many in here has seen most of the KC games? I might be wrong though, any info on Brandon Carr? Thought he looked good from what i saw..
February 18th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Heard good things about Brandon Carr, although I’ve really only seen him play against the Raiders. He’d be an RFA, though, so the Raiders would need to give up a draft pick to get him if/when the CBA is settled.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Thanks for the link DK.
And people talk about Al Davis overpaying and jacking up the pay scales, lol.
Bethea????
Otagwe ????
I’d still franchise Huff though, lol.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
The Franchise Tag for Safety this year is 6.455 million
February 18th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
OK, R8Will, the refs are purposely hitting Routt with pi penalties, otherwise he’s one of the best corners in the game. OK. Got it.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
“just 4 da hoez just 4 da hoez”
February 18th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
M Lonetree Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:57 am
If anyone should be tagged either franchise or transitional it is MBush.
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Not tagging a backup player.
McSkinny legs goes out, we can go to the spread offense with our talented 4 WRs and TEs.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
Brandon Carr had 108 targets 43 receptions against 6 TDs allowed
February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Bob Sanders released and Nnamdi Asomugha may not return?
not really BIG news today …
Routt & CJ37 are fine at corner
Rod Woodson has the challenge to convert McFadden and/or Ware into starting quality player(s) either this year or next
stuff the run & rush the passer. I promise you that we will win games, even without Asomugha & Huff
and yes, I do plan to see Branch & Mitchell starting next to eachother at safety if Huff isn’t in the plans.
So all the Bailey/Sanders for FS talk is all just B.S. to me
February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Oh, didnt think about that, then he will probably be expensive and not a real option.. Still, IMO we need a CB to pair with Routt if 21 leaves, and as i see it CJ isnt gonna cut it – i would rather trade or cut him, give the youngsters a chance..
February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Fk that! If we’re going to franchise someone, it needs to be “Rock” “Mr. Potato Head” Cartwright!
LMAO
Who’s gonna lead our troopers out there for Special Teams? Whats the tag for a special teamer?
http://www.sbreport.net/wp-content/Rock_Cartwright.jpg
February 18th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Young B in da house!
February 18th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Thanks Bcz24..
February 18th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Huff is soft! Go look at the game tape on most big plays for an offense Huff is involved….coincidence? I think not. Nnamdi time to go. Gallery is horrible
February 18th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
M Lonetree Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:57 am
If anyone should be tagged either franchise or transitional it is MBush.
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9 million is the RB tag number, way too expensive for a backup
February 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RRS too ???
I guess it’s the lunch hour.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
Jhill….our talent 4 wrs? Who would that be? lol
February 18th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
back to the grind.
CYA gents!
February 18th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Who’s gonna lead our troopers out there for Special Teams? Whats the tag for a special teamer?
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No tag for special teamers… he would be tagged as his roster position. $9 million
February 18th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Look u better keep Bush if you gonna ridiculously overpay folks
February 18th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Brandon Carr also had 25 pass deflections, tops in the NFL… Stan Routt had 13, good for #2
February 18th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Love “Rock”, but I got to say Hell to No!
February 18th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
good for you rmr, hold on tight you hear..
February 18th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
And jhill….cj37 is awful…got paid for 8 games in 2008…cut him…if we keep routt sign joseph and have ware mcfadden as backups
February 18th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Bush will be retained, and we dont have to spend 9 million a year to do it… Im pretty sure McFadden doesnt even make 9 million a year guaranteed.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
DHBeast
JaMoney Ford
Lou Muphy
Charles Schallins
February 18th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Well i guess RRS not jhill lol
February 18th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
J,
Don’t forget Johnny Lee Scary!!!
He’s a beast!
lol
February 18th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
DHB sux….Chaz needs to bee sent away….Louis is okay but drops a few abd not a polished route runner….Ford is dope…..sign Chad to be number one
February 18th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
And jhill….cj37 is awful
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As a starter, been saying that for a while.
As a #4 corner, not bad.
Would gladly replace him with Joseph. Heck, I’d replace Nnamdi with Joseph.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
JLH my boy bt his time is up since Ford is our small fast blazer…JLH will find another team no doubt but he done here
February 18th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Heck, I’d replace Nnamdi with Joseph.
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BLASPHEMY!!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
DMAC where da grapes at bruh?
February 18th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
B,
JLH will be playing football somewhere in Europe next season. Thats if they got a league out there.
LMAO
February 18th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
How is that blasphemy Bcz? Nnamdi isnt a playmaker and will break the bank…..say bye to him. We can get two quality players now
February 18th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
B,
I’ve been puffing on some of that blueberry schit man. Gets you 2 stupid tho.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Brien
What did you think of the Rap Is A Joke stuff? They got a new album coming out on 2/20 that will be available for free on their website
rapisajoke.com
February 18th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
DMAC how much you wanna bet he is in the NFL next year?
February 18th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
W/ playing time?
February 18th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
A blunt?
February 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RaiderDogg….your cousin and homeboy are funny….i can appreciate the angle in how they arent like everyone else
February 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
B
I am with you regarding Nnamdi too. He is a greta player but way too expensive and a bit over rated in my book.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
General Bauce Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
How is that blasphemy Bcz? Nnamdi isnt a playmaker and will break the bank…..say bye to him. We can get two quality players now
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I was clearly joking.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
I want to go check out that big ass Olmec head at the museum.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
A blunt is cool then DMAC…jlh will be in the nfl for some more years trust that…..but DMAC you got blueberry keep it LIT my nig….whats good?
February 18th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
They have been on some weird Al Yankovic of hip hop type stuff, but their new album coming out is called All Jokes Aside.
Do you ever watch battles? If so you must see my homie Tony Madness kill this chick Mudslinger, its fukkin hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHVKV6efgXA
February 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
DMAC u got blueberry? N-gga keep it LIT…..burn it!
February 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
I was clearly joking.
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As was I about our talented WRs, lol.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Dogg…..nnamdi is soft…fk that guy
February 18th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Alright B,
Its all good.
Bet.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Joseph, Routt, Page and Mitchell/Branch wouldn’t be too bad.
Richard Marshall and Antonio Cromartie are also options, but Joseph would be key. He would also be about $8-9 million less than Nnamdi.
I’d also like to see the Raiders snag CB Davon House from New Mexico State in the 5th round. Guy has size, speed, and makes plays. Could be a good youngster to bring along with McFadden and Ware.
With Woodson coaching the CBs, now is the time to bring young CBs in for him to mentor.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Later peoples!
Got this 3 day weekend.
Holla!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
February 18th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
The only place gumby higgins will be working next year is at the car wash. He is done. stick a fork in his sideways running butt…
February 18th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
B
Watching Nnamdi play in the 2008 and 2009 Pro Bowl showed me that when he plays zone he is very average. If he would play for less $ than he is projected to be worth, I would be cool with him sticking around. Otherwise save the money and get 2 quality players with that cash…
February 18th, 2011 at 12:25 pm
Sign Chad sign Champ…proven NFL players for last decade who command respect immediately. WR and secondary units upgrade overnite!
February 18th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
roll on DMAC
February 18th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
I’m anxious to see what the playbook brings to the table for the WRs this season.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Huff I’m not entirely sold on, unless the new DC (whoever that may be) is going to use him the way Marshall did.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
everyone watch this if you wanna laugh your ass off
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHVKV6efgXA
February 18th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Higgins at car wash? No Mas cajones wrong!….he will be in the NFL for sure….he better than DHB lol
February 18th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Bangles not cutting 85.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Boooooo huff
February 18th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Jarrad Page has only been a starter for 3 of his 5 seasons, and still has 12 INTs, 4 forced fumbles and a sack.
Check it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarrad_Page
February 18th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Whats the matter general? are you afraid of JLH taking your job at the car wash?
February 18th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Jhill….chad and lewis not gonna work together….cincy moving on
February 18th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
No Mas Cajones….yaaaawwwwnnnnnn at least be funny….stay over in the kiddie pool
February 18th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I hope so.
Jackson will coach his “son” with no problem.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Jarred Page is a strong safety not a FS
February 18th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Jhill….bengals changing over that entire roster….chad time is up and Al would bite on that move….awesome i say
February 18th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Still …
I hope we see more plays called for the WRs like that WR screen to Ford in the last game. Let some of the WRs run underneath and seam routes instead of just the TE getting those routes.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Jhill playbook is dependant on oline…u outta wonder about the type of guards and center have first
February 18th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
B,
How’s the young hoopster holdin up? Will he be able to get back on the team, or will he have to transfer?
February 18th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Jhill i believe Hue will have some good shhht dialed up for the WRs….especially if we get Chad!
February 18th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
general. where’s your paint huffing buddy Dorco Boob?
February 18th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
General Bauce Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Jhill….bengals changing over that entire roster….chad time is up and Al would bite on that move….awesome i say
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Bengals already picked up 85s option for 2011. He wont be getting cut, but he could be had via trade if a CBA ever gets done
February 18th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Well speaking of hopes and dreams, lol ….
LT – Gaither
LG – Loper
C – Veldheer
RG – Campbell
RT – Walker
February 18th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Jhill mike been back on the team….mizzou is 20-6 but coach demoted him in favor of his GODSON….so we have nepotism typpe shhht going on. He just gonna have to play hard the next month or so and then see what he wants to do
February 18th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Veldheer at center? No and Gaither zzzzzzzzz. Walker should be shot
February 18th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Bcz….even better but dude aint playing in cincy
February 18th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
J Hill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Well speaking of hopes and dreams, lol ….
LT – Gaither
LG – Loper
C – Veldheer
RG – Campbell
RT – Walker
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That looks like an Offensive Line that would cause the 2011 Oakland Raider hopes and dreams to be ruined
February 18th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
but coach demoted him in favor of his GODSON….so we have nepotism typpe shhht going on.
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Probably why I hadn’t notice.
Good for him that he’s back on the squad though.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
I would rather see:
Veldheer – Ijalana – Kirkpatrick – Campbell – Gaither
February 18th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
General Bauce Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
Bcz….even better but dude aint playing in cincy
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But why trade for him when there are a bunch of other free agent receivers this year.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Norco Bob chillin in florida from what I know….coolest guy ever
February 18th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Well right now its
LT – Veldheer
LG – No One
C – No One
RG – No One
RT – Walker
February 18th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Bcz…..we not getting rice or james jones…..chad gonna bring swagger needed and his best years were with hue
February 18th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
I would rather see:
Veldheer – Ijalana – Kirkpatrick – Campbell – Gaither
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Getting warmer, I admit I dont know who Ijalana is, but Gaithers injury history and work ethic make me nervous.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Jhill then u mean only Veldheer cuz Walker dont count
February 18th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Oh I like Chad, wouldnt mind seeing him here, just laying out the facts like I see them. Cincy would ask for a second for him, which is unreasonable. Jones is the kid from GB right? They can have his DHB impersonating a$$ if you ask me… guy drops way too many balls.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Ijalana is an OG/OT from Villanova. Projected 2nd round pick. Good size and strength. Would be a solid choice in the event Wisniewski is gone. Might even be a better fit for Hue’s blocking scheme than Wisniewski.
I figure Gaither could be a low-risk signing. He’ll get a one-year “prove it” contract wherever he goes. At his best he’s a franchise LT who can also play RT. Worst case scenario, he’s better depth than Henderson.
Part of me still sees Al re-signing Henderson and handing him the RT spot, though.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Truly believe our 2nd rd pick will be an OL.
I think the big question is Bruce Campbell going to play RT or RG.
I’d bet he’s our RT when camp starts.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Jhill they been on tv hella times my friend lol….he did cut his braids off from last year…..theyll be on wednesday vs baylor at 6pm on espn2…..coach has messed off the year trying to force his two godsons on court becuz their dad is former nba plaayer and best friend…..this is why I wanted him at Cal
February 18th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Part of me still sees Al re-signing Henderson and handing him the RT spot, though.
*****
I agree
February 18th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
And I forgot about your boy Mario Henderson.
Al might want him back at LT.
And where do you think all those Dalby comparisons were coming from towards Veldheer. Don’t sleep on him going back to C.
LT – Henderosn
LG – Gallery
C – Veldheer
RG – 2nd rd pick
RT – Campbell
February 18th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Mario at RT may happpen cuz Al loves him plus he didnt look bad there last season. Just worried that his run blocking for a RT isnt great
February 18th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Al might want him back at LT.
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Nah Al was happy with Veldheer at LT…
February 18th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Im calling it now……LA native Demarr Derozan wins the dunk contest tomorrow
February 18th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Enjoy your weekend fellas! Im gonna make like a fetus and head out.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
I think Veldheer and Campbell have the most to gain from the coaching staff putting more emphasis on power blocking.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Jhill they been on tv hella times my friend lol
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Well with the madness about to start, I guess it’s time for me to start paying attention.
I haven’t even seen Ohio St play yet this season. Saw 3 min of the Duke/NC game in the last few weeks. That’s about it.
Heck, I BARELY watch the Lakes.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Good news people….the real nba season starts next week
February 18th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Bcz24 Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Nnamdi choosing to play somewhere else will be the only reason he leaves. If it comes down to money making the decision he will be an Oakland Raider next year.
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Yeah, I agree.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
YoungAmerican….bingo I agree wit ya on that! zbs sux
February 18th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
General Bauce Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Im calling it now……LA native Demarr Derozan wins the dunk contest tomorrow
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I’m calling Blake Griffin.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Jhill….march madness gonna be great….my cousin will ball out just like he did last year….u either got it or ya dont and that kid does. The stars come out in march
February 18th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
College b-ball hasn’t been worth watching since the early 1990s.
February 18th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Kell….derozan from LA and is stteamed he didnt win last year
February 18th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Kell u goin out on a limb like Teena Marie calling for Blake Griffin eh?
February 18th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
I’m calling Blake Griffin, young man.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
The dunk contest hasnt been shhhht since the all star game was in what city?….more seezzzacks believe that…tokin where u from? OAKLAND!……smoking
February 18th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
J Hill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
I’m anxious to see what the playbook brings to the table for the WRs this season.
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Hopefully a lot of blocking
February 18th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Ok old man and why is that?
February 18th, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Let’s build our O-line through FA’s……
Veldheer-Gaither-Kalil-Campbel-Ryan Harris
February 18th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
VR sup man? Spring training u ready to defend your title?
February 18th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Saucee Baucee…what up mayne?
February 18th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Yeah ray we gotta get oline work
February 18th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Just got the second half of the NBA league pass for 100 bucks.
Don’t want to miss a minute of the Warriors playoff push.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Blake Griffin is the most powerful, violent dunker in the game.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
If Panda hits .300 this year, game over.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Aint nada Ray…..looking like a wet weekend in cali bruh…..i lightweight wanna drive to LA cuz I know its going down plus I got some bzies still down there checkin 4 me
February 18th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
R8eray, pretty powerful line, looks good! Able to blow some holes! Would get Yanda as well, perhaps to start at RT, and Ijalana or Moffit to compete for the G spots..
February 18th, 2011 at 1:06 pm
Ok power and violent dunker I agree but kell dunk contests are about creativity
February 18th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
What do you guys think on Steph Curry?
February 18th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Yeah VR they saying he is in shape….this winter has been awful for me…Giant fans celebrating. I wanted to bomb the parade to be honest
February 18th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Curry wet ball jumper good visipn upside like a mugg….cant guard a chair
February 18th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
I would be happy with Wiz 2.0 in the 2nd round, and a later round pick on a Tackle prospect.
C-Satele (backups either Wiz 2.0 or Veldheer)
G-Wiz and Campbell ideal starters, Loper-Carlisle as main backups and potential early year starters. Throw in Barnes for depth. Tell Gallery to punt boulders.
T-Veldheer on the Left, Langston tentively on the right, later round pick as depth, along with Barnes. Tell Mario to take a hike as well.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
The Doyers will win the NL West!
February 18th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
monta can score but he cant d up SGs consistently……warriors need to draft Alec Burks to be backcourt mate with curry for future
February 18th, 2011 at 1:11 pm
Natural basketball Player. skilled guard with the ability to score from anywhere on the court and breakdown the D and create opportunities for others. He seems not to be as interested on the Defensive end but in Basketball D is all effort which he can learn how to be competitive defender.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Lmao Doyers!…..doubt it…..sf or col taking that
February 18th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Curry has moments when he is the best player on the floor.
Can’t keep his man out of the paint though on D. Help always has to come, and someone is always left open.
Never win a championship that way, but the Warriors probably aren’t winning a championship anyway, so screw it score 110 points a game and have a great night out.
Raider On!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
StayinBlack……Bauce
February 18th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Yeah, I met him at a Raider game last year. In a box.
Look’s like he’s getting stronger thru the shoulders. I think he need’s to be more aggressive offensively.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
Raider On!!!
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Don’t you mean Warrior On!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 1:14 pm
VR fk that…..need to build for title run not satisfied scoring 110 while giving up 115……I WANT WINNERS!
February 18th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Yes Warrior on where the majority of the ppl know the game unlike ppl who go to the Fakpple Center
February 18th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
West is wide open.
Lakers are done.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
J Hill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
West is wide open.
Lakers are done.
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Yeah there done until they start winning again.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Too bad your front office doesn’t know the game.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Troy Smith & Brian Westbrook, likely out in San Fran
Feb18
2011 Leave a Comment Written by Paul Jackiewicz With Jim Harbaugh now the head coach of the San Francisco 49ers, it seems that quarterback Troy Smith and running back Brian Westbrook will most likely not fit into his plans for 2011.
Troy Smith ended up only completing 50% of his passes in 2010. And Harbaugh has strongly indicated that he is looking for a quarterback that is accurate to lead his offense and Smith has been the complete opposite. Also, don’t forget who released Smith before he went to the 49ers. It was John Harbaugh, Jim’s brother.
The reason I don’t see Westbrook coming back is the indication that running back Anthony Dixon will be the number two guy behind Frank Gore. Westbrook has indicated that he wants to contribute in some way and I don’t see that happening. It wouldn’t make sense for him to return to the 49ers as a third string back.
Westbrook said the following,
“I want to have the ability to contribute and the ability to play a little bit and not just kind of waste away on the bench,” If i can’t play for the niners i would like to remain playing for a team in th e bay area.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
Laker game at Fakpple Center= ” bawdy im so high off this blow bawdy….why no pass to kobe? who is steven blake bawdy? oh nevermind there goes famous actress Scarlett she is hot bawdy wonder if she wanna buy diamond from my store bawdy…..let’s a make a deal”
February 18th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
yeah there done until they start winning again.
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Winning what?
This Laker team won’t win another ring.
They F’d up not trading for Carmelo.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:20 pm
Well jhill my front office doesnt get gift wrapped deals from former legends in the form of Pao Gasol do they?
February 18th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
You can’t REALLY be mad at the kids of these foriegn millionaire’s spending up their parents loot, lol.
LA is the place to be, and Staples is right in the middle of it all. It is what it is.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Trade for melo? lol jhill then u were guaranteeing for sure OKC would beat that ass. Cant lose Bynum if u want the ring again
February 18th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Well if you had a few more legends …
February 18th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
No problem with them being rich just the fact most except top deck dont know shht about basketball and are fake ass alot of blk women’s hair
February 18th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
Blake
Kobe
Melo
Odom
Gasoft
3 more rings
Current team = NADA.
February 18th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
We do have a few they just not GMs who cheat
February 18th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
Lol that lineup wont escape the west….bynum and gasoft won u those games in playoffs….blake? this isnt maryland next……melo will get torched by durant and pierce…….odom is great but he better off bench
February 18th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Lakers got lucky last year and as i keep saying really miss ariza
February 18th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Anyways time for the Bauce to jet file out this biznite….yall be cool and ill get at ya……JUST WIN
February 18th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
February 18 2011 Last updated at 01:20 PM ET
Dave Duerson, Member of ‘85 Bears Defense, Found Dead.By FanHouse Staff
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Text SizeAAAPrint this page|EmailShare on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on DiggShare on LifestreamDave Duerson, who started at safety for the Chicago Bears’ dominant 1985 defense, was found dead in his Miami home Thursday. He was 50. No cause of death was immediately reported.
“Our family asks that you please remember Dave as a good, kind and caring man,” the Duerson family said in a statement released on the Bears’ official website. “He loved and cherished his family and friends and was extremely proud of his beloved Notre Dame and Chicago Bears. Please keep Dave and our family in your prayers.”
Duerson was a third-round draft pick out of Notre Dame in 1983, then played for the Bears from ‘83 through ‘89. During that time, he earned four consecutive Pro Bowl nods (1985-88) and was named the NFL’s Walter Payton Man of the Year in 1987.
He had five interceptions during Chicago’s 15-1 regular in 1985, then picked off six passes the next season as Chicago finished 14-2 and won the NFC Central.
Duerson moved on to New York in 1990, where he played one season for the Giants. He finished his career with a three-year stint as a member of the Phoenix Cardinals. All told, Duerson recorded 20 interceptions and 16 sacks during his NFL career.
“We are stunned and saddened to hear the tragic news regarding Dave Duerson,” the Bears said in a statement. “He was a great contributor to our team and the Chicago community. Today is a difficult day for all of us who loved Dave. We’ll miss him. Our prayers are with his family.”
February 18th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Just for kicks, here’s just one of many intriguing possibilities for the Raiders’ roster next season:
QB – Campbell
HB – McFadden, Bush (RFA)
FB – Reece (RFA)
WR – Ford, Murphy, DHB, Schilens, Lockette (7th round)
TE – Miller (RFA), Myers
LT – Veldheer
LG – Ijalana (2nd round), Loper*
C – Kirkpatrick (3rd round)
RG – Campbell, Carlisle
RT – Henderson*, Barnes*
DT – Seymour*, Kelly, Ian Williams (4th round), Bryant (RFA)
DE – Shaughnessy, Houston, Thornton (6th round), Scott
WLB – Goethel, Groves
MLB – McClain
SLB – Wimbley*
CB – Jonathan Joseph+, Routt*, McFadden, Ware, House (5th round)
SS – Mitchell, Branch
FS – Jarrad Page+, Brown
K – Janikowski
P – Lechler
KR/PR – Ford
ST – Cartwright*, Eugene*, Williams*
* = FAs to re-sign
+ = FAs to sign
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Some other options are:
Re-sign Huff
Sign FA Santana Moss instead of drafting Lockette
Sign FA Jared Gaither instead of re-signing Henderson
Draft Wisniewski instead of Ijalana in the 2nd round
Sign FA Antonio Cromartie or Richard Marshall instead of Jonathan Joseph or re-signing Routt
What are some possible scenarios you guys would like to see?
February 18th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I’m thinking the Warriors New Management brings in a high profile GM next year.
February 18th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 1:49 pm
I’m thinking the Warriors New Management brings in a high profile GM next year.
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With your luck, it will be Al Davis.
February 18th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
What a horrible thing to say.
February 18th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
i’m betting this guy wylie moves bruce campbell back to tackle.. so our line should be
gaither
loper
veldheer
walker/henderson
campbell- barnes in two tite sets
maulers and bullies every one..
get out the way yo, get out the way yo,, biggies all got pop
February 18th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
What a horrible thing to say.
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LOL! Sorry. Out of bounds.
February 18th, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Is there any chance we go with Bush and Dmac together in the backfield instead of Reece?
February 18th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
559.M Lonetree Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:57 am
If anyone should be tagged either franchise or transitional it is MBush.
Raise your hands if you think McSkinnylegs can last an entire 16 game season let alone an 18 game season plus playoffs without a hammie, a turf toe or a tweaked knee.
Anyone? Didn’t think so.
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Bush would actually be the perfect player to be get the Transition tag. Any team that wants to offer him a huge unecessary contract, and if the Raiders don’t match, then they get multiple draft picks I believe.
February 18th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
559.M Lonetree Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 11:57 am
If anyone should be tagged either franchise or transitional it is MBush.
Raise your hands if you think McSkinnylegs can last an entire 16 game season let alone an 18 game season plus playoffs without a hammie, a turf toe or a tweaked knee.
Anyone? Didn’t think so.
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Hmm….are there ANY primary RB’s in this day and age of football, that can make it through a whole season unscathed and injury free?
Didn’t think so. It happens to ALL primary RB’s, not just DMC.
February 18th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
710.General Bauce Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
Lakers got lucky last year and as i keep saying really miss ariza
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Don’t matter how “lucky” they allegedly got Bosh….they won two titles in a row baby!
February 18th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
The Backbone of the Raider Offense is Dmac/Bush.
February 18th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Raiders Mock 3.0
Rd 2- S Wiz C
Rd 3- C Matthews LB
Rd 4- M Gilbert or J Pinkston OT
Rd 5- C Thornton DT/DE
Rd 6- K Reuland TE
Rd 7- C Harris CB
February 18th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Even if the Raiders lose Nnamdi, they won’t need to draft a CB early in this years draft before Round 4 IMO.
The reason? Rod Woodson should be able to coach up the young ones we drafted last year and any CB we draft later in the draft this year.
R Woodson was practically a coach on the field when he was a player.
February 18th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
We’ve had 4 years of balanced budgets in the last 50 years.
Bill Clinton.
February 18th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Prediction:
The NFL regular season will not start until Week 4 this year.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
We’ve had 4 years of balanced budgets in the last 50 years.
Bill Clinton.
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Fishing for an argument eh???
February 18th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
DK007 = Right on the money w/ us matching any other offers for MBush…he’s the perfect “transitional” FA. No matter what he does this off-season, he’s gonna get a very hefty pay raise…hopefully right here.
KK and BHP are both right about MBush, also. On a recognized contender (like the Raiders this year), his talents would be recognized much more widely. And…without that broken hand last year, who knows what happens. Now, DMC’s gotta stay upright, or Bush might never give it back. MBush is our own version of Jamal Lewis or Corey Dillon…
R8rwill — Why so eager to move Veldheer out of that LT spot? Few rookies at the position come in and show even small bursts of what Veldheer did last year. He’s everything we need right there, for a long time to come…time to stop experimenting with the next guy to come along. Find a real Center elsewhere, and fix that right side of the O-Line.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:15 pm
Al Davis did actually do something positive recently. As the owner of one of the poorest teams in the NFL, he thoroughly debunked the case of the other NFL owners, that the players’ salaries are breaking them, by shelling out 30 million to an aging defensive end. In Solidarity, Baby!
February 18th, 2011 at 4:16 pm
DKnight007 Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Prediction:
The NFL regular season will not start until Week 4 this year.
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That’s a good over/under. I pick under. But, I think, this really hurts teams like the Raiders trying to get over the hump this year.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
…and MBush runs (much) better in the open field than either of those two did.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:18 pm
The Six I would like to see the Raiders draft:
Wisniewski, Matthews, Pettis, Gilchrest, Cannon, Gilbert
no particular order
February 18th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
I could see the Raiders moving Mr. Reece to back up RB or Mr. Rankins should we not resign Mr. Bush.
I see Michael going where the money is. He lost out on the dollars with his injury his senior year.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Hayes I think the Raiders have an excellent opportunity with Mr. Vehldeer at either LT or Center.
As a Center he will dominate as an all-pro; as a LT he will be a pro-bowler.
I think it all depends on the development of Mr. Bruce Campbell as a Tackle, as well as who we draft or which FA we sign.
I see the Raiders, playing Wisniewski at LG should they draft him.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
O-Line
Gaither – Wisniewski- Vehldeer- Cannon – Campbell
February 18th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
I agree with Jerry and a few others, Raiders are not going to franchise tag Mr. Zach Miller, not for 7.3 million anyway.
NFL Networks are wrong Raiders will resign Mr. Asomugha, as Mr. Jason Campbell is only getting 4.5.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:28 pm
DK — I say they miss no more than 2 regular-season games…with each team getting 2 pre-season games (1 home, 1 away)…that way, the bulk of the Owners revenue stream starts/continues. Any longer, and the League will be devastated financially…way too much debt being carried out there.
The Players need to let the Owners know…if they’re locked-out through the Spring, they won’t play a single regular-season game until, let’s say Oct.1…and then back it up a month for every month this goes on. At some point, there won’t be enough games to play to save anybody.
At least both parties (and the factions within each party) have a grown-up in the room with them now. Hopefully he cracks some common sense into them.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RR — Glad you mentioned that JCampbell dude…here’s something nobody’s been talking about:
Let’s say we do have a regular season this year, and let’s fantasize a quick start by the Raiders…ohh, maybe 3-1? Hey, it could happen.
Now, hypothetically, Jason Campbell has been good enough to get us there…and playing well enough to deserve some contract-extension talks. What will be his value then, if something like that were to happen?
Campbell’s contract will need to be addressed ASAP this season, fast start or no fast start.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
726.KoolKell Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
We’ve had 4 years of balanced budgets in the last 50 years.
Bill Clinton.
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KK I thought Monica was the wielder of the mighty ink stick.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Hayes Jason’s contract definitely needs to be extended, even if we draft Cam Newton or Jake Locher in the second (this on the remote possibility either falls to us); or another QB in the 5th-7th rounds.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:47 pm
Kim Newton doesn’t fall past #20…too much real potential being hyped all of a sudden.
And yes, a young QB to raise in-house is exactly what this team needs.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Rams released FS O.J. Atogwe.
Atogwe was due an $8M roster bonus on the 21st, and the Rams clearly had no plans to pay it. Though Atogwe had expressed desire to stay in St. Louis, he’d be smart to shop his wares on the market. Unlike most unrestricted free agents, Atogwe doesn’t have to wait for a new CBA to sign elsewhere.
February 18th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
I don’t give Soup any more years on a contract extension until a playoff appearance has been clinched.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Id rather stay with huff than sign atogwe. Id rather stay with all our guys right now. add one or two key guys at o line and receiver and we get goin
February 18th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
HazeDaze
In regards to raising a home grown QB,
You have a long time owner, but no stability, why?
February 18th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
How can you grow anything when you’re Jicjacking Coaches ever year?
February 18th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
West Coast, Run & Shoot, ZBS. Where’s the stability?
February 18th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Ok, Man2Man defense, I got it.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
ZZZzzzzz…
Way to do what you do best, KK. Kill any intelligent convo happening.
I got a dinner date…it’s Blues night.
Late!
It’s a great evening to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
February 18th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Jerry, you haven’t heard ANYTHING about the DC Post?
February 18th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
I’m thinking 3am Sunday morning the Raiders announce Chuck Bresnaham as the “New Defensive Coordinator of the Oakland Raiders”
February 18th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
we should pick up Andre Davis… he would be our Mason =)!
February 18th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
LMN
You ever get out to the clubs?
February 18th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
yeah, but it seems to be only every other weekend at the momment…
but I dont like clubbing clubbing, im more to the semi-hardcore.. or the european-elitist sites LOL not the player-sites/smarta55-sites =)
February 18th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
KK…
I usually go here ->
http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/00176/Barer_p__Vesterbro_176932a.jpg
February 18th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Check out the Karrel Klub, bro, on a serious tip.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Ok, looks nice. Karrel Klub, ok? Holla back.
February 18th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
KK…
yeah, thats kinda player/smartass site, im more in to noise rock than clubbing…
February 18th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
KK…
http://www.riesenbar.dk/riesenbar/da/html/Galleri/index.html
allthe pictures with the old-school orange lamps is form the place I usually go to =)
February 18th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Almighty then, there’s some fine women in there.
I was there with 2 other navy buddies(black). A Pakistani told us about that Club.
We, by chance met him there the next night.
We were standing in that patio area when a great big Dane, evidently said something….unflattering about our group.
I had to keep the Pakistani off of him, wanted the big Dane to go outside…….really?
February 18th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
I can’t get that last link to work.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Hey old goat,
Just go to Google>Images and type in riesenbar.dk
Looks passable LMN… pasty fems but passable.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
BTW what is velagayclub? lol homo bikers?
February 18th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
Thanks.
Oooh boy. Check out the Karrell Klub, bro!!!!!!!!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Raiders making good choices on staff and locking up Seymour. Most likely we won’t have #21 next yr raider nation has to get over that he still could end up here but I have a gut feeling he won’t. Hope they just keep making positive changes like they are. Could be the best off season for raiders in a long time even though draft last yr was good. I’m happy and as far as I’m concerned we all should be.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
not sure you guys are aware that wiz 2.0 is a zone blocker.. too small for dah raidahs..
February 18th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Steve Wizneiski was only 305 but he was a nasty 305. It’s all about what’s in his chest.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Chargers not stupid. Refuse to long term DUI ridden WR Jackson.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110218_chargers_unwilling_to_give_jackson_a_longterm_deal
February 18th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
r8rwill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
not sure you guys are aware that wiz 2.0 is a zone blocker.. too small for dah raidahs..
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Wizzers been brought in to “bring back the nasty”
February 18th, 2011 at 6:44 pm
i am all for the nasty. loved big wiz. but this guy 2.0 is a zbs specialist, and a little light in the pants to handle the noses in our division, thats the problem with sam satele…we need a MACK truck not a chevy..
February 18th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
nnam i hope the chargers fack around and make v jax walk!! he would be perfect for us drunk or not!! we need a big wr with good hands. we got speed aplenty. thats why i say plax, boldin,even TO more than ocho
February 18th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Size-wise, Wisniewski might be a better fit at center, although I know he said he wants to play OG.
But his size stacks up to all the best centers in the league, including Mangold. He’s actually bigger than Jeff Saturday, Olin Kreutz and Kevin Mawae. Matt Birk of the Ravens only outweighs him by 5 pounds and is an inch taller than Wiz. He’s the same size as Alex Mack.
The only center I can find who is measurably bigger than Wisniewski is Gurode, but in spite of Gurode’s size he’s struggled in his last couple seasons.
Size isn’t everything. At the center position it’s more about leverage and smarts.
February 18th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
i think we should let gallery, and carlisle walk, bench satele, move veldheer to center move b campbell to rt and henderson inside to right or left guard.. we still meed a left tackle and gaither is available..one player in free agency all the rest have small contracts, something to prove and all are young so that they can maul d linemen for years..and open hiways for dmac and bush
February 18th, 2011 at 7:06 pm
ya, with all respect i don’t know where you are looking but the center to measure everybody from now on is maurkice pouncey.. his twin is coming out this year but he will be long gone by the time we pick.. those guys you point out are mostly zone blockers and too small for our division..imo
February 18th, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Veldheer has earned a shot at the LT position next season. Don’t think he’s going to be moving back to center unless he’s absolutely awful in training camp.
Don’t see Gallery coming back to the Raiders.
Carlisle won’t be a free agent, and is worth keeping around for depth in case Campbell can’t cut it at RG or is moved to RT.
Henderson might be worth trying at OG, but I still think Al wants to see him at RT. He didn’t do a terrible job there when Walker was injured last season, but his ability to deal with edge rushers in pass protection is still questionable.
The draft class of interior linemen and right tackles is deep this year, and since that is exactly the area the Raiders need to improve upon, I’d be very surprised if they didn’t take advantage of it.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Pouncey is the same weight as Wisniewski, just an inch taller.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:14 pm
Kreutz and Birk are primarily power blockers.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
LT) Veldheer
LG) Henderson
C ) Rookie, or Free agent
RG) Carlisle, only because Hue wants him there
RT) bCampbell..
Cable apperently got fired for not using bCampbel and for using Veldheer at C… so this is what I think/hope we would end upwith!
February 18th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Kreutz is not some beast and neither is Birk they are both barely 300 lbs. Playing C is NOT about girth its about technigue like I’ve been saying for many years Barrett Robbins was an unusual animal. Most C are right at 300 lbs. Steve was a G as you know but he was the lightest guard we had he was just a great technician and nasty as hell.
I’m not sure if we’ll get Wiz but I know if we do it’ll be because he is a great technician like his uncle. Quick guys with great leverage and short area quickness make for better centers.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:22 pm
Quick guys with great leverage and short area quickness make for better centers.
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Yep.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Wisniewski and Jake Kirkpatrick are the same size.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
# priesttj Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
Steve Wizneiski was only 305 but he was a nasty 305. It’s all about what’s in his chest.
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First thing I’ve agreed with Priesttj (Al Davis Apologist Extraordinaire) about in a long time. This team has had no heart since Gannon really; and why is that? Well, in part, because Davis so infrequently evaluates talent based on their brains or passion. He’s too easily bewitched by raw talent.
But, of course what do I know? Al knows more than me.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
Luckily the Raiders will have lots of options at OG and C in the first two rounds. To name a few:
Ijalana
Moffitt
Wisniewski
Cannon
Kirkpatrick
Franklin
Boling
February 18th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Be careful fellas.
It’s not that great of an idea to overload the O-Line with 1st and 2nd year young and inexperienced players.
That’s another reason why keeping Gallery is important.
He is an experienced LEADER!
Having too many inexperienced young players starting on the O-Line is very risky and not very wise.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Well I’ll be damned, DKnight dropping knowledge, it’s getting a little scary….
February 18th, 2011 at 7:54 pm
Mr,lol still got that manlove for young Blonde guys,btw that Pitt game was over by the time Big rich threw a punch!,your period? really.
February 18th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
Bhp,knowledge is great,whatever
February 18th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
KK,really?
February 18th, 2011 at 8:07 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Be careful fellas.
It’s not that great of an idea to overload the O-Line with 1st and 2nd year young and inexperienced players.
That’s another reason why keeping Gallery is important.
He is an experienced LEADER!
Having too many inexperienced young players starting on the O-Line is very risky and not very wise.
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That’s why Carlisle shouldn’t be cut, and Loper, Barnes and either Henderson or Walker should be kept around.
But there’s no question that the offensive line needs new blood. The pass blocking has been poor for years. The scheme is changing.
Even if the rookies don’t start, the time is now to invest in players who can be the future of the offensive line. This year’s draft class has good players at positions of need. The Raiders shouldn’t pass them up just because of some fear of being “too young”.
The 49ers had solid offensive line play after drafting Iupati and Davis. The Jaguars have two solid bookends in Monroe and Britton. The Browns drafted Thomas and Mack just a couple years apart.
I’d like to see the Raiders add veteran pieces along the offensive line like Marshall Yanda, Harvey Dahl or Tyson Clabo. But it’s not Al’s M.O. to go after offensive linemen in free agency, and with that in mind, the Raiders need to infuse the line with young talent to go along with the young skill position guys they have been bringing along.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
The Fortyniners Oline play was average at best and sometimes terrible……that’s the truth. I would be careful when getting too young in that unit. Sure if you can uograde always upgrade but people in here get a littlke crazy with the “get rid of this guy stuff”. It takes a while for that unit to settle down.
We drafted two kids last year and alreayd people want to discard them or change their positions. I say add some talent if and only if its an upgrade
February 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
The 49ers also had a carousel of QBs, Frank Gore go down with an injury, their center go down in the first week of the season, coaching chaos, and a defense that couldn’t keep anyone out of the end zone. Too much went wrong with that team to peg it all on the offensive line. But Davis and Iupati played well, and will continue to. There’s something to be said for letting a young unit gel together.
If Gallery can be retained on the cheap it’s not a bad idea. But how much is he worth with the amount of time he misses due to injury? Can he fit in in a power blocking scheme? Can Satele, for that matter?
OG and C are two positions that need more talent, and this is a year where the Raiders can get that talent. Even if the rookies don’t start, the Raiders have a lot of free agents and mediocre players along the offensive line, and desperately need to build for the future.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Anthony Davis was sub par IMO he struggled badly at times they just had no one to replace him Iupati played pretty well. But their line was average. AD played RT and sometimes got smoked.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Veldheer got smoked sometimes, too. But that’s the great thing about rookies – they can get better.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
The Raiders have gone as far as they can go with Samson Satele and Langston Walker. And Cooper Carlisle isn’t getting any younger.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
It seems to me that Satele is the new whipping boy in here, now I’d like to know just how many sacks he gave up. How did we do running up the middle with him in there. I didn’t see NT’s and DT’s running past him to the QB yethe’s always been named as needing to be replaced. The status quo from everyone is he can’t stand up to the big NT’s and yet game in game out he does. It’s on film I see no weakness at that position. I see weakness at the ROG position and maybe the RT position if we can strengthen those I think this is a very good line contrary to popular belief.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
Satele was a very good run blocker late in the season, for sure. His pass blocking has never been that good, though. The middle of the pocket collapsed on Campbell far too often this season.
If anyone gets too much flak around here it’s Carlisle, who may not be a physically dominating player, but is a good technician who made very few mistakes. You almost never heard his name called in games, which is a good thing for offensive linemen.
The main knock on Carlisle is that he’s 36 years old and isn’t going to be getting any better at this stage in his career.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Veldheer cost a lot less and I think he outperformed Davis easily he played the hot corner amd faced Peppers and the like Davis had help from the TE. Big difference.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
RG and RT are the main priorities to upgrade, but Gallery and Satele are both free agents. Satele is also the only C on the roster.
The great thing about a player like Wisniewski is that he can play OG or C. Take him in the second round, and take Fusco in the 5th for depth at C, and the offensive line is in a much better position than it was last season.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
The same is true with Satele how many times did you hear his name called for penalties? How many missed blocks? I watch film all the time Satele was one of the very best Olineman we had maybe THE best……period
February 18th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
No prob. if they take him I’m more than good with that I just don’t want a line of 1st and 2nd year players everywhere. We drafted two last year one more is all we need IMO.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Priest, just because you say “period” at the end of a post doesn’t make it true.
Satele was at his best when he was blocking in space downfield. Helped McFadden break off a couple big runs doing exactly that.
In pass protection, however, he was constantly backpedaling and Campbell and Gradkowski rarely had time to throw unless they were able to move (which became a problem with Langston “the turnstile” Walker at RT). Not sure if it’s a lack of physicality or simply poor technique, but he was a big reason the Raiders had a tough time keeping the QB clean. The 49ers and Steelers games in particular were especially poor performances for him.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
I just think the Raiders need to come out of this draft with a center and a guard. Especially because Bruce Campbell is an unproven commodity, Carlisle is aging, and every other OG on the roster is a free agent.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
O-line free agents:
Gallery
Loper
Satele
Walker
Henderson
Barnes
That leaves the Raiders with:
Veldheer
Carlisle
Campbell
February 18th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
The draft pick will be unproven to what mkes you believe the draft pcik will be better than a guy in year 2. Don’t follow your logic there. I don’t like Carlisle and hope he’s gone. But Satele was not the reason for Campbell or Grads having to escape it was normally Carlisle and the RT and sometimes Gallery and Veldheer. I watch what Satele does IMO he was the best Olineman we had all year long. If he wasn’t in your opinion WHO WAS??????
February 18th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
If I thought Al was going to make a couple big FA signings outside of in-house guys, I’d say bring in Harvey Dahl, and then draft C and RT.
But with as many in-house free agents as the Raiders have, I don’t see Al making any big moves unless he has to replace Huff or Asomugha.
February 18th, 2011 at 8:59 pm
Uh, Priest, is this a 49er blog or a Raider blog? Can we talk Raiders?
February 18th, 2011 at 9:01 pm
They’re all unproven, which is why you need multiple options. Any and all draft picks are unproven.
Best lineman last season? Hard to say. Veldheer was a pleasant surprise and played better than anyone expected him to. Gallery was very solid in the games he played, but spent some time out. Loper played well in his place. Satele was inconsistent, as was Carlisle. Walker wasn’t very good at all.
As a whole, the offensive line underperformed. As per usual.
Good teams invest in the offensive line via the draft. The Raiders have tried to build using journeymen, to mixed results.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
Hey what’s up nation, just heard about this site, from a die hard. Just wanted to say, the other day on my twitter page, I was having a bad day and said a bad thing about asoumuaha, sorry about that I think. He’s a smart player and wont leave, money isn’t everything, but a legacy is priceless. RAIDERS!!!!!!!! RULE!!!!!
February 18th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
It never stops we draft them and fans want them out for another draft pick. No team drafts more Olineman than we do and that is a fact………period
February 18th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
No team drafts more Olineman than we do and that is a fact………period
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That is definitely not a fact.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
The two positiona we use the most picks on are DB’s and Olineman 3rd is Dlineman.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Look it up YA as I said
1. DB’s
2. Oline
3. Dline
4. is WR or LB’s
We spend a ton of draftpicks on Olineman we always have.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:30 pm
Go here:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?teamId=2520&type=team
Compare the amount of linemen we have drafted to:
New England
Baltimore
New York Jets
Denver
Pittsburgh
And those are just the ones I’ve looked up.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Over the last decade, the Raiders have neglected the offensive line, and they’ve paid for it.
They brought in two rookies last season, and the line play improved.
Not really a coincidence.
The last time they’d drafted multiple linemen in one draft was Gallery and Grove, and unfortunately neither of those guys worked out.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Neglect what a joke neglect are you crazy…….lol forget it if you can’t read I can’t help you.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Gallery didn’ work out then why is he starting for us. Art Shell drafted THREE OLineman we drafted TWO last year, how is that NEGLECT???????
February 18th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
The above teams (along with the Colts, Packers and Titans) drafted an average of two linemen per draft over the last decade.
The Raiders drafted half that amount.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Gallery was getting paid franchise left tackle money to be an above average guard. Wasn’t a bust, but definitely didn’t work out the way the Raiders planned it.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Chiefs and Dolphins also drafted more offensive linemen than the Raiders.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:45 pm
Either you can’t read or you can’t count I just gave you 5 in two drafts and it didn’t count Gallery and Grove. In 2002 we had the bets Oline in the league and restarted drafting them the next year. If anything I would say in the last 3 years we dropped off but I know we drafted more than 10 Olineman in 10 years that I do know.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
Teams who have drafted a comparable amount of offensive linemen to the Raiders over the last decade:
Lions
Browns
Vikings
Seahawks
Bills
February 18th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
The Eagles picked three offensive linemen per draft for a few years in a row. They’ve been perennial contenders for the last decade.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
We drafted 11 in the last 10 years because we draft any in ‘08 and ‘09 and ‘01
February 18th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Dude you don’t watch Oline play the Eagles Oline STINKS to high heavens.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Eagles’ offensive line is far from the best in the league, but the last 3 or 4 years they’ve been injury plagued (their center sat out most of the last couple seasons) and still manage to make it to the playoffs because they have adequate depth.
February 18th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
That’s crap they had Mike Vick………period
February 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
gallery’s contract is almost six million dollars, too much for a guy that plays half the time.. let him go to seattle with cable..wiz does not want to play center, i don’t care how much heart a guy has, if he doesn’t want to do something, it ain’t gonna woik..
satele was our best run blocker by far followed by veldheer, imo… i don’t see carlisle as our rg at this point in his career. nowmaybe he will be a good backup. whoever plays in the middle of our line has to be able to handle nose tackles one on one.. satele was hurt early in the season and struggled early but ended well.. so if he is okay why would we replace him?? i haven’t seen wiz 2.0 play, but i do know his bloodline. if he is anywhere close to his uncle i’ll take him…but i honestly think veldheer is the guy to play center for us cable was right about that imo
February 18th, 2011 at 9:56 pm
They had Mike Vick last season. McNabb was the quarterback the previous seasons.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
779.La Milicia Negra Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 7:19 pm
LT) Veldheer
LG) Henderson
C ) Rookie, or Free agent
RG) Carlisle, only because Hue wants him there
RT) bCampbell..
Cable apperently got fired for not using bCampbel and for using Veldheer at C… so this is what I think/hope we would end upwith!
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I agree 100%.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Rod Woodson was a very heady player, I gotta think he can help the secondary, vision/read wise.
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AH HAH. I caught you red handed saying something positive about the Raiders.
That’s the Kool Kell that is so beloved.
February 18th, 2011 at 10:46 pm
Good Night Raider Nation!!!
February 19th, 2011 at 4:37 am
Good afternoon, Raider Nation!
February 19th, 2011 at 7:14 am
LMN, went to search images of your riesenbar hang out and most links came from the velagayclub…
Really?
February 19th, 2011 at 8:24 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!
February 19th, 2011 at 8:54 am
BSJ..
I dont know vela, not even where it is, but Copenhagen is a very gay-friendly city..
so I assume the owner of Riesen works with the owners of Vela… at riesen there isnt many gays, its great score-site for heteros though, THAT I KNOW =) LOL all my recent scorings was made there… I think its to distortion-noisy to have gay visitors
February 19th, 2011 at 9:07 am
BSJ..
http://www.myspace.com/142671735
^^^here you can see what kind of music they play there, Im not sure most gays are into that kinda scene, if they are cool, but usually they want more pop’n'bass as far as I know…
February 19th, 2011 at 9:11 am
You look at our O-line and where guys were originally drafted, we have one of the highest drafted O-line in the league.
Veldheer (3rd round)
Gallery (1st round, #2 overall)
Satele (2nd round)
Carlisle (4th round)
Walker (1st round)
And on the bench you have Barnes (2nd rounder) and Mario (3rd rounder). Just about every team you can find has at least one undrafted or 7th round guy starting on their O-line.
It takes more than just top prospects to form a solid O-line. IMO, it is all about continuity amongst the O-lineman, and that’s why I always debate that the Raiders should just draft O-lineman in the first couple of rounds and our offense will magically turn around.
How’s that Browns offense doing with those first rounders amongst their O-line? 29th in the league this year, 31st last year.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:13 am
but Copenhagen is a very gay-friendly city..
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Allow me to knock Copenhagen down a few spots on the “To See” list with this comment
February 19th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Is Davis too embarraassed to just go ahead and name Chuck B as DC?
February 19th, 2011 at 9:37 am
I would be.
Not too many other teams cherry-picking from UFL staffs.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:52 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 9:13 am
but Copenhagen is a very gay-friendly city..
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Allow me to knock Copenhagen down a few spots on the “To See” list with this comment
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howcome?
February 19th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Gay-friendly is not a selling point to me on future travel destinations.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:00 am
You like San Francisco, don’t you?
February 19th, 2011 at 10:04 am
For Giants games, lol.
Was just kind of screwing with LMN this morning.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:22 am
Two or three (maybe even four) new starters on the O-line will be disastrous.
Got to phase the new blood in systematically, or else Charlie Frye might be starting before the bye.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:25 am
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# Just Fire Baby Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Gay-friendly is not a selling point to me on future travel destinations.
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well, gay-friendly means safe… so if its safe for gays, its very safe for heteros…
but fair enough, what ever suits you, im pretty proud of gays have rights and can thrive here. But I know many still have a medieval views on the topic…
February 19th, 2011 at 10:26 am
JFB, your talking about rookies….right?
February 19th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Ray,
Definately mostly rookies, but grabbing a potential starter in FA should not be out of the question.
I just don’t expect immediate results from on O-line with so many new faces.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:35 am
but fair enough, what ever suits you, im pretty proud of gays have rights and can thrive here. But I know many still have a medieval views on the topic…
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I wouldn’t call it medieval, I just prefer not to rub elbows with the fringe element if at all possible.
I’m glad there all places like Copenhagen and SF for gays to “thrive”, because they deserve a place to do so.
But I also believe places deserve the right to tell little gay boys to take their make-out sessions and PDA’s and overall circus act to SF and Copenhagen as well.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:41 am
I think we should build our O-line through Free Agency…maybe draft 1-2 new guys.
Here’s a list of FA’s that would help our line.
Offensive Linemen
1. Tyson Clabo (ATL)
2. Doug Free (DAL)
3. Jared Gaither (BAL)
4. Jammal Brown (WAS)
5. Matt Light (NE)
6. Jermon Bushrod (NO)
7. Willie Colon (PIT)
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Interior Linemen
1. Carl Nicks (NO)
2. Logan Mankins (NE)
3. Davin Joseph (TB)
4. Harvey Dahl (ATL)
5. Ryan Kalil (CAR)
6. Daryn Colledge (GB)
February 19th, 2011 at 10:42 am
JFB…
if you took a walk in CPH, you wouldnt notice’em..
February 19th, 2011 at 10:44 am
852.La Milicia Negra Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 10:42 am
JFB…
if you took a walk in CPH, you wouldnt notice’em..
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I never noticed anything, but, I’m from SF…..all I was was fine women.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Fair enough, no need to dwell on the point.
I hear it’s a beautiful place.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Mankins got the franchise tag, so no dice there.
I would pass on Colon, Bushrod, and Brown. If Gaither gets waived I would take him, but I am not sending even a 6th round pick to acquire a moody, self-absorbed RT with back issues.
I would like Tyson Clabo a lot though.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:49 am
KoolKell,
Last night on a repeat of Hoarders, I saw a family with a beautiful condo on the water in Alameda, with the entire house piled to the ceiling in garbage.
The condo probably runs at it’s peak (guessing here) close to 500K, and they are tossing all that out the window so they can leave empty milk cartons on the floor.
Amazing.
February 19th, 2011 at 11:04 am
So.. the Giants join the Falcons, Saints, and Cowboys as teams that we know won’t be using a franchise tag in 2011.
February 19th, 2011 at 11:09 am
JFB
Yeah, I’ve heard stories from other Realtors here. It’s f’ing amazing.
February 19th, 2011 at 11:13 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 9:11 am
You look at our O-line and where guys were originally drafted, we have one of the highest drafted O-line in the league.
Veldheer (3rd round)
Gallery (1st round, #2 overall)
Satele (2nd round)
Carlisle (4th round)
Walker (1st round)
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I thought Walker was a 2nd rd pick, but your point is still well taken.
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YoungAmerican Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
The 49ers also had a carousel of QBs…..and a defense that couldn’t keep anyone out of the end zone.
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They kept the Raiders out. How’d that happen ?
JaJason sucks.
February 19th, 2011 at 11:28 am
More than Clabo, I would love to see Harvey Dahl in Silver and Black.
And that 49ers game was a cluster****. Really painful to watch.
February 19th, 2011 at 11:35 am
I don’t think it’s always about where offensive linemen are drafted. Particularly with offensive guards, most of the time I can’t see the logic with using a first-round pick on them.
But good teams tend to dedicate at least a few draft picks per draft to bolstering depth along the trenches.
I think Wisniewski or Ijalana are worth a 2nd round pick. If they’re not there, the Raiders might be better off going CB and taking Moffitt or Kirkpatrick in the 3rd. If that doesn’t work out, Fusco or Morris in the 5th would be solid value picks.
I don’t see a lot of tackles that will be worth a high draft pick, but if Ian Williams or Casey Matthews don’t fall to the 4th round, Marcus Gilbert could be good RT depth for the Raiders.
I agree that the Raiders should probably have no more than two new starters along the offensive line. But with as many free agents and aging players as they have, it’s definitely time for the Raiders to build for the future.
February 19th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
If Bruce Campbell pans out somewhere on the O-line, the “future” of the O-line would look pretty good with Veldheer at LT, Satele at C, and Campbell at RT/RG.
Satele turns 27 later this year, so he is still fairly youthful.
February 19th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
I had a nightmare last night the PittBuger Squleers signed Nnamdi as payback for signing Rod Woodson!
February 19th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I think they need to prepare for Langston Walker’s replacement, other than Mario Henderson.
February 19th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Mario will never be a quality RT.
RT’s are supposed to be mean, road-grading run blockers.
Henderson wasn’t even mean enough or good enough in the run-game for a LT.
February 19th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Hopefully with better pass blocking from the LG and RG spots, that aspect of Satele’s play will improve. He started doing a really solid job as a run blocker as last season went on, but he ends up backpedaling into the pocket too often.
February 19th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
They definetly need depth at Center.
February 19th, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Kirkpatrick or Fusco would be good additions for depth, especially if Wisniewski doesn’t want to play center.
February 19th, 2011 at 1:04 pm
I think Satele is the best Center in the leauge in the screen game, and the screen game is a vital part of our offense.
It is not a coincidence.
February 19th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Satele’s athleticism is definitely his best asset. Makes me wonder if Hue is going to try to utilize that, or if Satele will end up walking in free agency.
Satele is probably the best center in free agency outside of Kalil, so retaining him would not be a bad idea. Especially because there’s no other center on the roster.
February 19th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Center is one of the hardest positions to find, that’s why many teams will roll with a non Pro Bowler for 10 years.
Center is the one position where the grass is rarely greener.
February 19th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
865.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Mario will never be a quality RT.
RT’s are supposed to be mean, road-grading run blockers.
Henderson wasn’t even mean enough or good enough in the run-game for a LT.
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Word JFB,
With Barns on the roster as a bu LT, RT, TE, maybe we can trade M. Hendo? 3rd, 4th? He can play LT, not very well, but he can do it, and that may be enought to get a 3 or 4??
February 19th, 2011 at 2:04 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
The Raiders have gone as far as they can go with Samson Satele and Langston Walker. And Cooper Carlisle isn’t getting any younger
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Satele played well overall as the season progressed. He knows how to block on screens and did well run blocking last year. He is developing nicely IMO.
Still struggles with pocket pass pro…but he stepped up his game last year.
Unless the Raiders can find someone better to replace him….then there is no point in getting rid of him.
I do see the team drafting a Center in Round 2 or 3 this year if they see one they really like.
The Center position is not about size and strength….it’s about leverage, hand placement, being smart and using proper technique.
February 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Get down DKnight007!! you have really stepped your game up….
February 19th, 2011 at 2:16 pm
Atogwe now is free to negotiate and sign with any team.
Can he play FS in our D?
February 19th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
As diverse as most defenses are right now, and as skilled and athletic as the lineman and blitzing LB’s are right now, I’m not sure there is an O-lineman or an O-line that doesn’t struggle in pass protection at times.
The days of Kenny Stabler standing flat-footed in the pocket for 6 seconds are long-gone.
O-lineman are going to whiff at times, DC’s are going to disguise blitzers so they go untouched at times, and QB’s and offenses just have to deal with it and figure it out.
Drafting a ton of O-lineman isn’t the answer. Just ask the Browns.
February 19th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
Very true JFB you have to coach them up in YOUR scheme and CHEMISTRY is more important on that unit than any place else. You can have sub-par individuals and yet have a great line if they work well together. Constant upheaval is not the answer learning and growing together is.
February 19th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
JFB, this is true, bur our line was not great compared to the rest of the NFL. Our right side was not very good at all. Running to the right was a big prob last year, we need better RG, and RT. A better C would be good, but we can live with the average C we have. Wiz 2.0 should play LG, and wear #76 if Gallery is not re-signed. If Gallery stays, play Wiz @ C.
February 19th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Priest, yep, so lets draft 3 this year and mix them with what we already have, then put the best 5 on the field to STAY.
February 19th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
That IMO would be a waste of a draft we need other positions filled as well. We have enough raw material now to have a good line I can see adding maybe a pick for someone we feel strongly about but more than that you’ll have to cut players who either played pretty well or who could be good players eventually and we did that with the Art Shell draft every one of those players were discarded for Cable’s people it just wasted an entire draft. You cannot continue to do that.
I think Barnes Henderson and Loper are great reserves if nothing else. We have Satele, Gallery, Veldheer and Campbell and I haven’t mentioned Walker. Now you want to draft THREE more, for what??? We drafted 5 of those players I think one good player would be fine.
Then add a TE a FB a WR and CB and I think we need a young QB and a DT for that matter. Why waste thre picks on the oline it makes no sense.
February 19th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Priest, yep, so lets draft 3 this year and mix them with what we already have, then put the best 5 on the field to STAY.
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Yep.
People are acting like if the Raiders stand pat on the offensive line, the guys will figure it out eventually. But the Raiders have a distinct lack of depth, youth, and talent. And all but three of their current linemen are free agents this year.
Invest in the offensive line until you find players that work well together. The Raiders simply don’t have that right now.
February 19th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
The Raiders need to draft a guard and a center.
MAYBE a tackle if you can find a decent player who somehow slipped into the later rounds. I think that’s less of a necessity, though. Henderson and Barnes probably will be back.
But I don’t think drafting two players at positions that are deep in this draft, which also happen to be positions of need for the Raiders, is going to do any harm.
February 19th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
If the coaches see fit to do it I’m all for it, but just drafting Olineman so you say you did it is crazy. That IMO is what I get fro you guys. We have a LT and a RT maybe a RG and a LG and a C. Down the stretch they played pretty well even with a rookie LT the C got better and better. I see a need for RG we are deep in OT with Barnes Mario Walker and Veldheer. Unless we can get a stud OT what is the point? OG’s are easy the only thing is depth a C IMO. I don’t see this need for 3 draft picks on the line I think its a WASTE………period
February 19th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Well obviously you don’t draft a player at any position just for the sake of doing it. You draft them because they fit with your system and fill a need, or because they’re the best player on the board.
Lots of good interior linemen in this draft. Even if the Raiders just take Wisniewski or Ijalana in the 2nd round, and Fusco or Morris in the 5th, they’d go a long way to solidifying their line.
February 19th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
The Raiders need another Center on the Roster.
February 19th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
YoungAmerican Says:
Priest, yep, so lets draft 3 this year and mix them with what we already have, then put the best 5 on the field to STAY.
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Yep.
People are acting like if the Raiders stand pat on the offensive line, the guys will figure it out eventually. But the Raiders have a distinct lack of depth, youth, and talent. And all but three of their current linemen are free agents this year.
Invest in the offensive line until you find players that work well together. The Raiders simply don’t have that right now.
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WRONG!!!
When do you guys want to win? 2-3 years from now?
There’s no way to have a top-quality O-line, starting newbies up-and-down it just because they’re different than what you’ve already got.
Just like WR’s, the key to O-line play is constant repetition…and I mean constant. There are so many things to learn, and so many things to see, it takes a lot longer than people realize to come into their own.
Yes, there are exceptions…like the Long kid in Miami…but they really are the exception. What Veldheer did as a rookie right here was rather impressive…and he held his own against some of the toughest 1-on-1 matchups you’ll see. Did he make some mistakes? Sure. Did he learn from them? Like a champ.
The surest way to ruin any chance of getting over the 8-8 hump in the next 2 years…is to blow-up the O-line and start over. You’ll end up with a bunch of guys like the Keystone Kops, reacting to chaos with disastrous consequences.
Plug-in one or two here and there, and you may get away with it…but wholesale change at O-line is a major long-term project.
I want to win now…not go backwards.
February 19th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
priesttj Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Get down DKnight007!! you have really stepped your game up…
^^^^^^^^
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February 19th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Raiders Mock 3.0…give me a Raider draft close to this and I be happy….
Rd 2- S Wiz C/OG
Rd 3- C Matthews LB (he would be an excellent WLB on this Raider defense)
Rd 4- M Gilbert or J Pinkston OT (both can possibly play RG or RT)
Rd 5- C Thornton DT/DE
Rd 6- K Reuland TE
Rd 7- C Harris CB
February 19th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
“Beast” Griffin vs Demar DeRozan should be a nice battle tonight in the Slam Dunk Contest!
Fasten your seat belts!
Yeah baby!
February 19th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
DK — We NEED to pull in a few rookie QB’s to check out…one of whom should come from the draft, if a certain player or three are still there when we’ve got a shot at them.
If, during the QB craziness that was the last 2 seasons, we had a rookie QB play (relatively speaking, of course) as well as Veldheer played his position last year, we’d potentially have a great QB in the making.
It’s time for us to grow our own QB under HueJax’s watch, but we’ve got to get him first.
We’ve also got to find another WR who can and will catch, whether we draft one, or trade a pick this year (and one next year?) for one a la Chad O’Jackson.
CB?? Whatever happens with Nnamdi will tell…but even when flush with DB’s…I firmly believe we can’t have enough of them.
I say…get the O-lineman you REALLY want early, if he’s the best available player…otherwise, go for other needs…’cause we got ‘em.
February 19th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
O’Johnson! Hahaha. Whatever he calls himself nowadays!
February 19th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
I would have no problem with the Raiders moving back a few spots with their second round pick to move up their 3rd and 4th round selections or even to acquire another 3rd or 4th.
This draft is deep rounds 2-4 in my opinion.
February 19th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Hello fellas,been reading from the RAIDER house,glad to be back!Now before I ask Koolkell a question,its been 4 months so I have no clue what hes said,I would like his opinion of the Raider season and of Hue Jackson as Head Coach, RAIDERS!!!!!!!
February 19th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Al agrees with you Hayes, you can never have enough quality DB’s.
February 19th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
I’m all for a multi-purpose O-lineman…especially if he’s as good at C as his other spot/s.
No reason to spend a draft pick on TE if Zach is still here…otherwise, I’d agree. Our #2 spot could continue to be filled by a journeyman.
Always big on bringing in young LB’s, so cant disagree. Was and am a huge fan of the McClain pick, and he was impressive for a rookie “field general.” He doesn’t get enough credit for that…he was a rookie, and he ALMOST “owned” that Defense. It’s only going to get better for him, and us.
Bush or no Bush…I’d like to see us take a RB in the mid-late rounds. Another thing I don’t think we take into account enough, is just how beat-up DMC and MBush were at the same time. We need another young RB like we need a young QB.
February 19th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Hendu, Welcome back.
I think the Raiders had a good season, could have won 9 or 10 games. Tough on both sides of the Line. Good locker room. They seem to be developing character.
Huejax…..I think is a good offensive teacher, we’ll see how he adapts to the weird environment. Al Saunders should be a great help to him.
February 19th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
with the collective bargaining ageement likely to drag on, first to get rid of Judge Dougherty, then to get the players to kowtow (what other line of work are they going to find to make millions?), the question becomes, who are going to be the replacement players in an Oakland uniform?
(you think the owners are going to return the TV cash because no games are played?)
Gradkowski is a replacement QB if there ever was one. What about Kwame Harris? Barrett Robbins could probably use some cash about now. Fargas is a foregone conclusion. Schweigert wants another chance. Courtney Brown deserves an audition.
(there are only 1,600 NFL roster spots. if you add owners and scouts and coaches and assistants and practice squaders it equals some 100 people per franchise. $9 billion divided by 3,200 = close to $3 million per person. think no one else wants a piece of the pie?)
(yes, I understand that some of the cash is supposed to go to retirees but the current players and owners do not really care about them, only about themselves.)
February 19th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
kaepernick is the qb i would want cuz newton wont be available. we also NEED a beast fb like marecic to make dmc and bush even better. could use another te. forget loading up on olineman. this draft is deeper in de’s and dt’s. what we need to do is to attack the strength of the draft. a speed rusher and a run stuffer in the middle with a playmaking olb.i doubt heyward would be available when we draft but if he does slip u HAVE to take him. we need playmakers on defense to get to the next level. i like that we scouted matthews and taylor at the senior bowl. i hope there is a free agency before the draft cuz then we can sort out what we draft for.
February 19th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
The surest way to ruin any chance of getting over the 8-8 hump in the next 2 years…is to blow-up the O-line and start over. You’ll end up with a bunch of guys like the Keystone Kops, reacting to chaos with disastrous consequences.
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Who is “starting over”?
Veldheer is the cornerstone of the line. Carlisle is still around, and is a pretty smart veteran play. Campbell will get his chance to have a role.
The rest are free agents. Satele may be worth re-signing, but even if he is, he’s still the only center on the roster.
We’ve seen what Henderson and Walker have to offer. Those guys are not going to get any better.
Gallery is good when he’s healthy, but at 30 his injury problems aren’t going to get any better. And it remains to be seen whether he even wants to rejoin the Raiders.
The blocking scheme is also going to change, so it remains to be seen how any of the linemen from last year fit into what Hue and Wylie are trying to do.
One way or another, the offensive line needs more talent and more depth. No one is saying the rookies have to start (although Wisniewski or Ijalana could probably step in right away).
If you’re happy with the offensive line’s play over the last couple years, then you don’t know what a good offensive line looks like. They were exposed multiple times throughout the season, particularly on the right side of the line. If you want to see the Raiders to win at any point in the next few years, they’re simply not going to get it done by standing pat with the linemen they have and praying they get better.
February 19th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
i hope there is a free agency before the draft cuz then we can sort out what we draft for.
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Word.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
C’mon YA — Nowhere do I say I’m happy with the O-line play…but I know from experience that O-line play isn’t quite as simple as some people make moving up-and-down the line seem. Block somebody? Easy. Riiiight.
In this NFL, it takes most above-average O-linemen as long as LB’s and WR’s and CB’s and even QB’s to come around all the way.
The simple way to implode an O-line is to overload it with too many young players. How long did it take to see that Gallery was good enough to stay? At Guard, even. Imagine filling up an O-line with Super Marios and Bruce Campbells in their first year — hoping they can pull it off.
They all don’t come in and play like Veldheer did…and imagine if they were all as confused and overmatched as he was at times, all at the same time…DUCK, Jason!! It’d be worse than it ever was.
If Gallery goes…then we’ve got even more to worry about.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Block somebody? Easy. Riiiight.
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Who said this? You’re making a strawman argument.
The offensive line is one of the major weaknesses on this team. If a team doesn’t address its weaknesses, they remain weaknesses.
The Raiders need more talent on the offensive line. The only way they’re going to get that talent is through the draft or through free agency.
This draft happens to be deep with talented interior linemen, as well as a few guys who could help bolster the RT spot. Considering Carlisle is aging, Gallery is aging and injury prone, Henderson and Walker have ostensibly hit their ceilings, and Satele is the only C on the roster, it would make no sense for the Raiders to not bring in some young guys who can at the very least compete for starting jobs.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
You don’t make too many wholesale changes to an Offense that did what Hue’s did last season — you tinker with it and tweak it. More straight-ahead power blocking? OK…but you’ll still see ZBS, or something like it…modern Offenses mix up their looks and schemes more than ever before (well, since the 30’s!).
For so many guys to cry for “continuity,” yet to expect an O-line to gel overnight is folly.
Keep Veldheer, Gallery, and even Satele right where they are. Draft a replacement Center…and fix that right side of the line, starting with deciding if Bruce Campbell’s got the goods.
This O-line is not far from being a very good one, and there’s no reason to blow an entire draft to rebuild it.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
The Raiders could draft 6 O-linemen this year, and not a single one might be ready to play week-1. Then??
February 19th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Draft a replacement Center…and fix that right side of the line, starting with deciding if Bruce Campbell’s got the goods.
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Pretty sure that’s EXACTLY WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT.
No one expects the offensive line to gel overnight. That’s another strawman argument.
What we’re talking about is adding talent to a weak offensive line, along with whatever players the Raiders can/decide to re-sign. Let them battle it out in training camp and in the preseason, and let the best five guys take the field.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
The days of Kenny Stabler standing flat-footed in the pocket for 6 seconds are long-gone.
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That sure was great to watch though, wasn’t it ?
Heck, even as recently as 2002, Gannon often had enough time to read a newspaper behind that O-line.
But, you’re right – those days are gone, not only for the Raids but the other 31 NFL teams as well.
Exotic blitz packages and an emphasis on athletic DEs and LBs that can rush the QB make it very difficult to envision QBs being afforded the time they were given in the ‘old days’.
That’s not to say there won’t be lines that pass block better than others – and the current Raid OL certainly is not adept in that area.
In the absence of a dominant pass blocking unit, there are a few alternatives to counter/alleviate pressure on the QB.
The QB can extend the play on his own. He can be a freak like Rothlisberger with decent movement that’s very hard to bring down. He can be a freak like Vick that’s incredibly elusive and a threat to run at any time. Guys like this use dominating physical ability to get it done, and are very rare.
Then there are the guys that know what a defense is going to do before the defense knows it, and have a quick release and excellent accuracy. These guys don’t even need a very strong arm (although it sure helps) – like Brees and Rivers. And then there are the guys with bigger arms with the same aforementioned abilities like Brady and Peyton.
Thirdly, a team can scheme to counter intense pass rushes and a weaker pass blocking line through the use of ‘quick hitters’, spreading the defense, screens, and draws. Unfortunately, the Raider playbook and philosophy hasn’t been big on this (instead we’ve tended to rely on longer, more slowly developing, deeper plays with 5 and 7 step drops), but that’s changed a bit since Gannon and Gruden, (reverted with Shell behind that atrocious line – talk about disaster !). We’ll find out how Hue intends to counter the pass rush and mask the Raids’ deficiencies at protecting the QB.
Hue and Saunder’s playbook will be instrumental in designing schemes to ‘beat the heat’.
Of course it will then come down to JaJason making quick reads, releases and accurate throws if he’s not extending plays on his own.
Can he do that ?
I hope so, but doubt it.
JaJason sucks.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
The Raiders could draft 6 O-linemen this year, and not a single one might be ready to play week-1. Then??
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The Raiders could keep all the starting offensive linemen from last season, and half of them wouldn’t be ready to play week one.
The Raiders could spend their draft picks on CBs and DTs, and none of them might be ready to play week one.
The Raiders could draft anyone in any round and they might not be ready to start week one. THEN WHAT?!
February 19th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
Y.A.
I agree that the O line is our weaklink. Games are won and lost at the line.
That Said continuity is extremely important for the O-line.
Veldheer needs Galery as much as Galery needs Veldheer next to him this year.
The Center and Right Guard can be looked at to upgrade.
The Right Tackle needs a Veteran if the Guard is young or a rookie. I think Henderson or Walker are servicable.
I also believe you don’t have to have a All pro at every position. Just some key positions, and Gallery is starting to play like one. Veldheer? Maybe a couple of years.
We need to find a Center desperately.
In closing HayesDaze 37 makes the most sense.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
99 — Excellent write-up…hope you’re wrong about the 2011 Jason!
February 19th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Henderson will almost certainly be the RT in week one. The only way that isn’t the case is if Campbell is moved to RT.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
The Raiders could draft 6 O-linemen this year, and not a single one might be ready to play week-1. Then??
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The Raiders could keep all the starting offensive linemen from last season, and half of them wouldn’t be ready to play week one.
The Raiders could spend their draft picks on CBs and DTs, and none of them might be ready to play week one.
The Raiders could draft anyone in any round and they might not be ready to start week one. THEN WHAT?!
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The point was, it takes a loooong time for most O-linemen to be ready to start.
And…if you spend all your draft picks, or an exorbitant amount of them, on one area of specialty, every other area suffers from it. Especially if your draft “guesses” don’t pan-out.
YA — I’m not arguing we don’t need the O-line UPGRADED…we just don’t need an entire sea change there.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:37 pm
I also believe you don’t have to have a All pro at every position.
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Of course not. But the Raiders’ offensive line has to be better than they are. Assuming that Al isn’t going to bring in any free agents, the only way that happens is by developing more young talent and giving them a chance to compete for a job.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
“Ready to start” means mentally prepared, and not just physically fit. Injuries can happen to anybody, and they do happen to some more than others…but at least I know what my current O-line KNOWS, and how they react…and I can work with that, and tweak it where it needs it.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
I believe the Center position to be the most important. Last time we had a good line Robbins was center and who at left tackle? Sims.
Before that our line sucked once Maryland poked the eye of Mossbar in a camp scrimmage with the Cowboys. Even when Dalby retired it took a little bit for our line to come around.
With all this I can’t believe we haven’t tried harder to pick up a center of All pro caliber.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:47 pm
The point was, it takes a loooong time for most O-linemen to be ready to start.
And…if you spend all your draft picks, or an exorbitant amount of them, on one area of specialty, every other area suffers from it. Especially if your draft “guesses” don’t pan-out.
YA — I’m not arguing we don’t need the O-line UPGRADED…we just don’t need an entire sea change there.
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No one is saying we need an entire sea change there. Again, Veldheer and Campbell are going into their second year. Carlisle is going to be back. Henderson and Barnes are more than likely going to be back. Satele could probably be signed on the cheap.
Gallery was probably the Raiders’ best offensive lineman when he was healthy, but whether he’ll be back or not is very much up in the air.
Nobody is saying the Raiders need to spend all their draft picks on the offensive line. Two picks at positions of need would be adequate to bolster some weak areas of the line. Wisniewski, Ijalana, Kirkpatrick, Cannon or Moffitt could be good picks in the second or third round. Fusco, Gilbert, Carpenter and Morris would be decent picks in the fourth or fifth round. The Raiders have options, and depending on how free agency plays out, they’ll need to explore some of those options.
February 19th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
I’ve done several different mock drafts, if you haven’t seen them. I’ve also said that CB, OLB, and defensive line depth are among the Raiders’ needs.
February 19th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Here are a bunch of different options I’d like the Raiders to explore this offseason:
2) OG/OT Benjamin Ijalana (Villanova), DT/NT Phil Taylor (Baylor), CB Jimmy Smith (Colorado), CB Curtis Brown (Texas), or OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State)
3) C Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU), OLB Casey Matthews (Oregon), OLB Greg Jones (Michigan State), or OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin), or OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida)
4) DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame) or OG/OT Will Rackley (Lehigh)
5) CB Davon House (New Mexico State), C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock), or OG/OT Darrius Morris (Temple)
6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas)
7) WR Ricardo Lockette (Ford Valley State)
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Then attempt to bring Seymour, Miller, Asomugha, Wimbley, Huff, Routt, Bush, Reece, Gallery, Satele, Condo and Cartwright all back into the fold.
If Huff walks, sign Jarrad Page to compete with Stevie Brown.
If Bush walks, sign Le’Ron McClain or bring in a rookie.
If Asomugha walks, sign Jonathan Joseph or Antonio Cromartie and find a CB via the draft.
If Routt walks, sign Richard Marshall, Eric Wright, or find a CB via the draft.
February 19th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
I could probably update that now that Seymour and Wimbley have been re-signed.
February 19th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
Also left out Bryant (who is probably an RFA) and Barnes (who is a solid role player).
February 19th, 2011 at 7:20 pm
Coming from Vegas and actually attending UNLV Football games, watching Eric Wright out on the field… I would say to myself “I’d love to see him in Silver & Black!!”
February 19th, 2011 at 7:21 pm
Wright’s career has been up and down thus far, but would be a good, inexpensive pickup with a lot of upside if the Raiders re-sign Nnamdi and don’t have enough money to throw at Routt.
February 19th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
r8eray’s ‘11 Mock Draft
2. Mike Pouncy OG Florida
3. Kistofer O’Dowd C USC
4. Colin Kaepernick QB NEV
5. Rashard Carmichael CB VT
6. Robert Sands FS WV
7. DeMarcus Van Dyke CB Miami
February 19th, 2011 at 7:40 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 2:20 pm
The days of Kenny Stabler standing flat-footed in the pocket for 6 seconds are long-gone.
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LOL. How do you know anything about that? You’re like 25, aren’t you?
February 19th, 2011 at 7:49 pm
I disagree wholeheartedly that O-line was a big weakness for this team last year.
Our O-line completely humilated our divsion last year. Just pulled their pants down and embaressed the crap out of our opponents at the LOS.
You can’t be the #2 rushing team, with a below average line. That would be like the Jets, with the #2 rushing defense but slightly below average in getting sacks, needs to revamp their front 7.
There was pass-protection issues, not sure why Miller gets a free pass so often on here in this regard when he gets pushed around blocking blitzing DB’s, and they need to be fixed.
But O-line a weakness? Not at all when compared to rushing defense, 3rd down passing defense, and the QB to WR passing game.
February 19th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
If Pouncy is not there…..draft the Wiz in the 2nd.
In the 3rd draft WR Titus Young!
February 19th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
You want to slow down the pass-rush?
Have DHB catch more than one garbage time TD a year, and that might make teams think twice about sending 6 or 7 guys every passing down.
February 19th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
I disagree wholeheartedly that O-line was a big weakness for this team last year.
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Really? Defenses with good speed at outside linebacker shut down the Raiders’ running game. They were sub par at running off the right side. The pass protection was suspect all season long.
All of that needs to change if the Raiders expect to compete against the best teams in the league.
February 19th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
The Raiders also need to be able to rely on their passing game more often, because simply put they’re just not going to be able to run the ball all the time.
But I’m really not convinced Al is going to do anything about the WR position until DHB proves to be a complete bust. Best case scenario? The Raiders get Santana Moss, or Chaz manages to stay healthy, or Al drafts another speedy late-round receiver who pans out as well as Ford did last season.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Never mind….Titus won’t be there in the 3rd.
3. DJ Williams TE Arkansas
February 19th, 2011 at 8:20 pm
As far as a backup TE, the Raiders should look at FA Matt Spaeth from the Steelers. 6′7 270lbs…
February 19th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
In that case….Owen Daniels and Kevin Boss come to mind.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
I don’t think Daniels and Boss are going anywhere. Spaeth is a #2 for the Steelers, and is used more as a blocker. He’s almost the size of an offensive tackle. Given that Miller will almost certainly be back and that Myers is a talented young pass catcher, Spaeth would fit in well with the Raiders as an in-line blocker in two-TE sets.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
YA,
I thought our O-line dominated at least 7 games last year. (Sea, STL, SD, SD, Den, Den, in KC).
Not played well, won the LOS battle or anything like that.
Completely dominated.
Did they struggle at times? Yes they did. But those guys across the LOS get paid too, and no team just strolls in and controls the LOS 16 games a year.
I’m always up for improvements at all areas, but our rushing defense, giving up big plays in the passing game, and the inability of our WR’s to make big plays was a hole in our shoe almost every week.
That’s our areas of weakness, IMHO.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Hypothetically, if we brought back the same exact O-line play as last year, and we can shore up our rush D just a tad, stop giving up 50 yard passing TD’s 3 to 4 times a month, and find a way to remove the once month Jason Campbell performance when he is wearing a cotex and not a cup, this team should win 11 games next year.
If we fix the O-line, and don’t improve those other areas, we might go 5-11.
Just the way I see it.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Of those teams, the only one with a dominant pass rush is KC. And KC really only has Hali (although Hali is a beast).
Still, while Hali beat Veldheer a couple times in the first half, the rookie bounced back pretty well.
The 49ers, Steelers, Colts, and Dolphins all abused the offensive line. And it’s not like the 49ers and Dolphins were elite teams last season. If the Raiders’ can’t even manage to handle speed at outside linebacker from mediocre teams, they’re not going to make it very far even if they manage to get to the playoffs.
The rushing defense is definitely an area of concern, but the starters are entrenched along the defensive line. If Phil Taylor falls to the Raiders they should absolutely take him, but otherwise I’d like to see NT/DT Ian Williams be the 4th round pick.
The big plays in the passing game are a problem, for sure. Nnamdi, Routt, and Huff are all free agents. The secondary is a huge question mark. I’ve never been a fan of Routt, but if Nnamdi walks he and Huff become priorities. I think Joseph or Cromartie would be key additions, and I like Davon House in the 5th round. Still, I’m not sure how much that will help. The biggest addition to the secondary this offseason could be Rod Woodson as CB coach.
The WR situation is of course concerning. But I don’t see Al doing anything dramatic about that until at least the 2012 season, assuming that DHB has another disappointing season in 2011.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:46 pm
Who’s saying the offensive line is the only area of the team that needs fixing?
February 19th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Fox Sports’ Adam Caplan believes free agent TE Owen Daniels should be able to latch on as a starter somewhere else if he’s not re-signed by the Texans.
Daniels, who spent last offseason recovering from a torn ACL, looked like a shell of his former self last season before finally breaking out for 271 yards and two scores in the Texans’ final four games. It’s possible he’ll become a restricted free agent once the CBA mess is finally resolved, making him very likely to stay in Houston.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
If the Raiders add two more CBs (who won’t be as good as Nnamdi), a new safety (who probably won’t be as good as Huff), and a defensive lineman (who won’t be a starter), and DON’T address the offensive line, they’ll be lucky to see five wins.
How about instead of hoping Campbell is more comfortable in this system next season, the Raiders make a couple moves to HELP Jason Campbell next season?
Al isn’t going to be making a splashy FA signing at WR, so the offensive line needs to be addressed.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:51 pm
No Giants player whose contract is expiring collected more than $1.776 million last season. The lowest non-kicker franchise number is expected to be roughly $7.3 million — for tight ends — and the G-Men haven’t deemed free agent tight end Kevin Boss worth that much.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Veldheer-Gaither-Kalil-Campbell-Ryan Harris
February 19th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 8:50 pm
If the Raiders add two more CBs (who won’t be as good as Nnamdi), a new safety (who probably won’t be as good as Huff), and a defensive lineman (who won’t be a starter), and DON’T address the offensive line, they’ll be lucky to see five wins.
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Bring in FA’s to help the O-line.
February 19th, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Bring in FA’s to help the O-line.
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Would love to see Harvey Dahl at OG and Clabo, Jammal Brown, or Jared Gaither at RT… but I’m not going to hold my breath.
That said, maybe since the focus is shifting away from the ZBS, Hue will be able to convince Al that the Raiders can’t get it done with scrubs, like Cable was able to talk Al into (Kwame, Barnes).
February 19th, 2011 at 9:02 pm
I just don’t expect the Raiders to try to do a lot in free agency, unless they find themselves in a position where they have to replace Nnamdi, Routt, and/or Huff.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
drafting a center would be Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
February 19th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
Confucius400 Says:
February 19th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
drafting a center would be Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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“You know, you can say it backwards, which is ‘dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirupus’!!
February 19th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
I wonder if Uncle Steve could convince Wiz pt. II to play center.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
YA, its all speculation until we draft our 2nd (1st) pick!
Whether its Pouncey or Wiz they might both not be there when it gets to us!
February 19th, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Free Agenst we should get…
DT Shaun Cody, WR Andre Davis!
February 19th, 2011 at 9:26 pm
The 49ers, Steelers, Colts, and Dolphins all abused the offensive line.
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Other than the Colts game, the QB play in those games started off lousy, and was downright laughably awful by the end of the game.
A 10.6 against the 49ers? 30 something against the Steelers and in the 50’s for the Dolphins game?
Very Jamarcus-esque. I’m sure pass-protection played a hand in those, but Cooper Carlisle didn’t underthrow a wide open TD twice in the 49ers game, or fumble a completion in the Steelers game, or throw duck after duck in the Dolphins game.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
JFB, the QB play was bad for sure, but the Raiders couldn’t even run the ball in those games.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
I think uncle Steve is part of the reason Wiz 2.0 envisions himself as a guard. It’s in the family DNA.
I still see him rated as a Center on some draft boards.
But shouldn’t it be a little concerning that he wasn’t a C for Penn State his senior year? After a pretty successful junior year at C, filling in for injury, it would have been in his best interest financialy and draft wise to stay at C for his senior year. Instead he took every snap at G.
Either he REALLY, REALLY doesn’t want to play center, or he wasn’t the best center on the team. Being an all-American and a Wisniewski, he could have told Joe Pa where he wanted to be playing on the O-line and he would have been playing there.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
JFB, the QB play was bad for sure, but the Raiders couldn’t even run the ball in those games.
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And I would argue that was because the defense was looking across the field at Bruce Gradkowski and Jason Campbell and giggling, pinning their ears back and saying we are sending 7 people every play, and we will take our chances on Bruce Gradkowski to Darrius Heyward-Bey failing.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
I remember same time last year half the people in here were geeked about him coming out….it never happened.
This year I believe the Raiders should grab him if Pouncy is not there and he’s still available.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:38 pm
Having Wiz 2.0 would be supercraggifroggylististikoverkalisupermegalicous
February 19th, 2011 at 9:44 pm
This link, from a Penn State website, has Wisniewski as expected to be a middle round pick.
McShay has him as a 4th rounder.
Not sure why everyone thinks he will be gone when we pick? Of course he might be, but he might also be there in the 3rd round as well.
http://psuinthenfl.com/2011/02/03/wisniewski-royster-invited-to-nfl-combine/
February 19th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
And I would argue that was because the defense was looking across the field at Bruce Gradkowski and Jason Campbell and giggling, pinning their ears back and saying we are sending 7 people every play, and we will take our chances on Bruce Gradkowski to Darrius Heyward-Bey failing.
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That’s a possibility, but it’s going to be Campbell and Heyward-Bey again next season. At least the Raiders are in good position to upgrade their offensive line in the offseason.
That way if Heyward-Bey and Campbell don’t improve next season, the next guys who come in will have a solid young offensive line in front of them.
February 19th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
I hope your right Vegas! If we could pick him up in the 4th and not jump the gun in the 2nd that would be GREAT!
February 19th, 2011 at 9:58 pm
2.) CB Jimmy Smith
3.) OG Stefan Wisniewski
4.) DT Ian Williams
5.) C Brandon Fusco
6.) DE Cedric Thornton
7.) WR Ricardo Lockette
February 19th, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Ugh. I can’t wait till Al is gone, so we can start acquiring the best players whose names aren’t Wiznewski or Branch.
February 19th, 2011 at 10:37 pm
Good Night Nation!
February 19th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Young I think Smith is a first round prospect now. Most mocks I see have him going in the mid teens
February 20th, 2011 at 4:03 am
Wiz jr. will most like be gone by 3rd, will go in 2nd.. What about going with Barksdale in the third? He has so much upside and can play T or G.. He would be a steal and would fit into what Hue are trying to do!
February 20th, 2011 at 4:04 am
Smith would be a great addition in the 2nd, but as Guy says, he might be gone, especialle with a good combine performance..
February 20th, 2011 at 4:13 am
IMO Ijalana, Hudson, Moffit and Taylor would all be good options in the 2′nd rd – even though a couple might be gone before we pick! Still think Barksdale in 3rd would be a great pick!
February 20th, 2011 at 6:52 am
772.r8rwill Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
nnam i hope the chargers fack around and make v jax walk!! he would be perfect for us drunk or not!! we need a big wr with good hands. we got speed aplenty. thats why i say plax, boldin,even TO more than ocho
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Boldin was the one guy Balt. figured could get ‘em over the hump and he was the one who failed them at the most important time in the playoffs.
February 20th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Let’s not delude ourselves into thinking that this WR corps is capable of doing anything more than what they’ve done in the past, which is basically NOTHING.
C’mon, we absolutely NEED ONE receiver who can run a route and make consistent plays.
Imagine 3rd and 15 at Lambeau field with our TE being blanketed (TE’s don’t catch balls against GB). Who do you really trust to make that catch? DHB???? Please. Murphy? Yeah right. Chaz? He’s on the bench injured as usual (can u trust him to be anything else BUT injured?). Ford? Can we count on a 5′9 receiver to really make that catch over the middle CONSISTENTLY? No. We need a big body WR who has good hands and can take a hit. He doesn’t have blazing speed, just be able to make a catch.
Who do we have that can do that? We NEED that.
February 20th, 2011 at 7:20 am
good morning nation,
djg, top of the mornin, i saw boldin drop an important pass in the playoffs, as i remember in crunch time.. so you are right maybe he isn’t the guy. but my point was that the possession guy we need is a big man with good hands who can go make the d defend the middle ofthe field, which kinda slows down the pass rush. miller was great in seam routes until he got hurt..
February 20th, 2011 at 8:00 am
Good Morning Raideration!
February 20th, 2011 at 8:05 am
The Eagles are reportedly seeking a first-round pick and “something else,” possibly a third-round pick, in exchange for Kevin Kolb.
February 20th, 2011 at 8:30 am
who’s the darn dc?
February 20th, 2011 at 8:31 am
i’m thinking its really chuck. no way they go this long without announcing
February 20th, 2011 at 8:32 am
T..
why not, just come clean, I would like them to announce, it was AL =)
February 20th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I wonder if not naming a DC before the lockout begins is some type of penny-pinching, cost-saving mechanism.
I guess we will learn a little more when Jerry gets to go to combine and he can tell us who will be there representating the Raiders.
February 20th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Blake Griffins dunk last night was not the best slam dunk contest winner I’ve seen!
It was O.K.
February 20th, 2011 at 9:23 am
The dunk contest was pretty boring.
Listening to Barkley was the most entertaining part of it all.
He didn’t even jump over the car the right way. There is an Oakland playground legend named Hook who dunked over a VW, length-wise not width-wise.
I’m sure it is on youtube somewhere.
February 20th, 2011 at 10:35 am
You’re right, Guy, didn’t notice that. Looks like the Raiders best chance for a CB in the 2nd or 3rd round is with either Brandon Burton or Curtis Brown.
The Raiders might be better off waiting until the 4th or 5th for Davon House.
February 20th, 2011 at 10:46 am
I do like the hire of Chuck generally, not necessarily as DC however. Chuck brings familiarity to the table with how Al operates and possiblity how to best incorporate his input or not. This, versus someone who doesn’t know what to expect or how to deal with it.
February 20th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Just a thought –
We’ve tried the 3-4 scheme before without succes as we didn’t have the personel.
Last year We brought in players that are primarily 3-4 prospects (Death-Ro, Groves, Wimbley, Goethel..), we have Seymore, Houston will fit in the 3-4, Bryant and Scott as as well.. Most played very well in our 4-3 scheme, but they would most likely make for an easier transition to the 3-4 scheme than the last time, if we should decide to change..
Remember how Hue has been talking about a longer term plan, especially last year when questions around us switching to 3-4 popped up with our signings? Could it be that the plan was to prepare for a switch to 3-4?
If so it would make sense to wait hiring a DC with a 3-4 philosophy, as we would be in a crappy trading position with regards to some of our players who wont fit.. That is especially T Kelly who had a great year for his standards and was a Pro Bowl alternate, and Shaughnessey (who i would hate to see go)who played at a very high level and could generate serious interest from teams in need of a solid DE pass rusher..
Those two could generate some solid trades which could supply us with the missing pieces to shift to a 3-4, but if we show our hand and move to 3-4 before theyre traded, their value will deflate quickly, which could be why theyre waiting on the new CBA so they can get a view of the possibilities..
The point about Waufle being a 4-3 guy is true, but if we ran a penetrating rush 3-4 he would not be that much out of his element..
I realize that Big Al is conservative, but the ‘Big Plan’ when they began to get the big dudes nagged me because we never really saw it, and this would definately be categorized as a big plan.. Most likely we will return to the 4-3, but imo theres a distant possibility that theyre thinking about the switch, capped off by a 3-4 DC, as well as Biekert and Breshnahan would become the inside and outside lb coaches..
Any chance you think?
February 20th, 2011 at 10:57 am
I am curious about this Davon House.
I generally like to shy away from smaller school guys, although the Raiders have had lots of good fortune from raiding these smaller type programs over the years.
Just can’t imagine the change in competition from New Mexico State to the NFL. Also, House is used to going out, playing OK, and having the game pretty much over by halftime and losing by 40 points (New Mexico State is awful).
Could be really good, a late-bloomer type (I don’t even think he played HS football until his senior year) but he would be a long-term project, IMO.
February 20th, 2011 at 10:59 am
I hate the idea of taking one D-lineman off the field (the strength of our team) and adding an extra LB on the field (a weakness for our team).
Any defense that will take TK or Matt S off the field and replaced by Travis Goethel or Quinton Groves, I want nothing to do with.
February 20th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Yeah, House would definitely be a guy to develop. With Woodson aboard, and Nnamdi potentially leaving, I think it would be smart of the Raiders to have a stable of young players to develop for the future.
Assuming it’s Routt and Johnson, or Routt and a FA like Joseph or Cromartie next season, a supporting cast of McFadden, Ware, and House would give the Raiders some options. Especially because Chris Johnson’s play slipped last season, and he’s going to be 32 in September.
February 20th, 2011 at 11:08 am
JFB, agreed, especially like shaugh – future pro bowler no doubt, but they would most likely get some additional players for the weakest spots (OLB, ILB and NT)through draft and FA.. Not sure I agree with the idea, but definately think its a change theyre thinkin about..
February 20th, 2011 at 11:14 am
I’m good with sprinkling in some 3-4, especially on passing situations (as Scott, Wimbley and Groves are at their best rushing the passer).
Just don’t see it as our base. We need to find some fancy ways to have 5 d-lineman on the field, not 3.
February 20th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Every offseason there’s talk about us switching to a 3-4 scheme. It has happened before, but only to come right back to the 4-3. Aside from dime and nickel packages, this is our staple on defense. The 3-4 gives you a little more athletic versatility by having an extra LB instead of a Lman, but not much. And not to mention you have to make sure you have 4 very good LBs that can not only stop the run, but also be good on coverage. The 4-3 is the same, with more emphasis on the MLB than anything, but you still need to have 2 other good LBs. There are some differences and advantages to both, but they both also have their downfalls.
For a 3-4 who would our LBs be? Wimbley, Ro, Groves and Thomas? I guess Wimbley could be the occasional LB disguised as DE? How about our Dline? I think we might have more talent in our Dline than our LBs. Which is why sticking with 4-3 makes more sense to me.
Now, I am not against the 3-4, I think if we start being a little more creative and versatile with our personnel we will benefit in the end, it’s just that I tend to lean a little more to the 4-3 than the 3-4. But a good combination of the two wouldn’t hurt.
February 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I’d like to see 4 down linemen with Wimbley coming off the edge more. He was very good playing with his hand on the ground.
If the Raiders use some 3-4 looks, I hope they draft Ian Williams or Kendrick Ellis in the 4th or 5th rounds.
February 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am
That would definately help stop the Run! Just having a hard time thinking about using a 3-4 guy to run a 4-3, and i dont get why were only connected to 3-4 guys? Breshenan just isnt good enough anyway! Exciting to see what they plan to do in FA and draft, plenty of talent to get!
February 20th, 2011 at 11:31 am
EMR, as you say, we would need to get some Linebackers to go with Wimbley and Ro, Although could see them give Groves and Scott the one spot to battle for.. Plenty good MLB in FA, Posluszny clearly one of the best option, but Tulloch and his speed could fit well besides Ro as well..
I still think as you all do that we keep 4-3, but the way they have prepared at least suggest a lot more 3-4 looks.. 3-4 with an aggresive style is fine by me, but still see us predominantly as a 4-3..
February 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am
# Just Fire Baby Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 9:23 am
The dunk contest was pretty boring.
Listening to Barkley was the most entertaining part of it all.
He didn’t even jump over the car the right way. There is an Oakland playground legend named Hook who dunked over a VW, length-wise not width-wise.
I’m sure it is on youtube somewhere.
$$$$$$$$$$
Demetrius “Hook” Mitchell
One of West Oakland’s Finest
Repping Campbell Village in Lower Bottom.
Played at McClymonds High School with future NBA PF Antonio Davis.
February 20th, 2011 at 11:56 am
Any defense that will take TK or Matt S off the field and replaced by Travis Goethel or Quinton Groves, I want nothing to do with.
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LOL.
All too true.
Does Wimbley rushing from DE on 3rd downs count as a “3-4 set”?
Prolly not, but close to a hybrid with appropiate personnel when judging down & distance.
I just want the best players on the field when the ball is snapped.
(offense/defense)
Just make that happen, and i’ll cope with any mistakes made on the field.
February 20th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Alright then Raider Nation.
Enjoy yall sunday and stay safe.
The Mack has left the building…
February 20th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Being an all-American and a Wisniewski, he could have told Joe Pa where he wanted to be playing on the O-line and he would have been playing there.
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And Joe Pa would have said, “Sure, kid. Play anywhere you want. It’s all about the individual here in Happy Valley. Always has been.”
That’s pretty funny.
February 20th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
So what your saying than Teach is that Joe Pa moved Wiz out of the center position because someone else at Penn State was better at it?
All the more reason to not expect him to be an NFL center.
February 20th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Or maybe Penn State just had a glaring weakness at LG. Who knows.
Jake Grove was an OG coming out of college, too.
Either way, I’m sure whatever coaching staff drafts him will find a place for him to fit. It just speaks to his versatility and intelligence as a player that he CAN do both.
February 20th, 2011 at 3:34 pm
Will Jerry be lying in wait in Indy by the elevators to ambush Chuck B. with the tough questions, like he did with Lance..
“Are you the new DC?, or are you just here to answer the phone, when Al calls down during games?”
February 20th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Maybe Wiz 1.0 was brought on board to teach 2.0 the “nuances” of being an NFL guard…
February 20th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Who wins todays all-star game??
East -3
February 20th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
You out there Vegas???
What to do…who would you take?
February 20th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
It just speaks to his versatility and intelligence as a player that he CAN do both.
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Very true. I’m sure at worst he will be an emergency backup center.
I just think you have to know before you draft him, based on the premium you have to pay for a center in the draft.
You can’t draft the guy in the 2nd round, with the intention of him playing C, and he either doesn’t want to or isn’t any good at it.
Whichever way it goes, it will be interesting to follow it over the years. I still think something is up, with him opting to not go to the senior bowl.
What guy, with an ESPN mock projection as a 4th rounder, blows off the senior bowl? Makes no sense what so ever, unless he kind of has a wink-wink with a team or two that they will take him in the 2nd round or earlier.
February 20th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
Action on the All-Star game Ray??
LOL……take the over I guess. I don’t think I ever trotted up to the window and bet on the NBA All-star game.
MLB all-star game? Every year though.
February 20th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
273.5 O/U
February 20th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Just for fun….like 20 bucks or something!
February 20th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 1:53 pm
So what your saying than Teach is that Joe Pa moved Wiz out of the center position because someone else at Penn State was better at it?
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What I’m saying is that Joe Paterno is generally not told by his players what position they’re going to play. They’re going to play where JoPa and his staff feel like they can best help the team.
“I’m a Wisniewski and I’m an All-American. I’ll be playing guard today.”
“I’m Joe Paterno and I’m a Hall of Famer. I was here before the first Wisniewski and I’ll be here after you’re gone. Now, shut the hell up and get back in the huddle.”
February 20th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Just for fun………it won’t be much fun when it is 138-134 with 5.9 seconds left, lol.
Wouldn’t matter if I had a nickle on a game, or $5, those last few shots raise the blood pressure a little.
February 20th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Yeah I was disappointed that neither Wiz nor Pouncey were at the Senior Bowl. I think a lot of interior linemen earned a lot of money because the two top-rated guards were absent.
February 20th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
He was 1st team All Big Ten as a Center his junior year.
Pretty weird that he was replaced or relocated or whatever you want to call it the next year though don’t you think?
The guy who replaced, Doug Klopacz, did not make Big Ten honorable mention this past year, and is a senior but was not even invited to the combine. His football days are done.
The whole thing just doesn’t sit well with me. I need to know why Wiz 2.0 moved back to G his senior season, and than why he is still considered a C prospect.
I need answers!!!!!
February 20th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Just for fun………it won’t be much fun when it is 138-134 with 5.9 seconds left, lol.
Wouldn’t matter if I had a nickle on a game, or $5, those last few shots raise the blood pressure a little.
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Thats funny you say that. It never fails..last seconds always kill me!
I don’t know how Vegas seems to hit the nail on the head all the time?
Thats why I like to stick with NFL, MLB, NCAA!
But this is just for for fun…
February 20th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Pretty weird that he was replaced or relocated or whatever you want to call it the next year though don’t you think?
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I don’t think it’s strange at all. If the combination of him at guard and Klopacz at center was better than young Wiz at center and some schmoe that they didn’t trust at guard, then it makes all the sense in the world.
Wisniewski may have very well asked for a position change, and Paterno may have ok’d it. What I don’t buy is that he told Paterno where he was going to play. Joe doesn’t play that, and he doesn’t have to.
February 20th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Eff it….took the West on the ML +130 & the over!
$30 to win $112 + my $30…that will pay for beer and pizza!
February 20th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
R8, gonna cost ya, lol, Evil is good! Back to Raider “basics”. Any word from Norco Boob? Or was it a gangland? Been working ton’s, can’t be here as often as I want……RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 20th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Chris Landry NFL Scout on FSR: “JaMarcus Russell is still out of shape and hasn’t shown teams he’s motivated to play in NFL.”
February 20th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
YA, is this something us cool aid drinkers ain’t figured out? He had the chance, he blew it!
February 20th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
1009.860Todd Christensen Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
R8, gonna cost ya, lol, Evil is good! Back to Raider “basics”. Any word from Norco Boob? Or was it a gangland? Been working ton’s, can’t be here as often as I want……RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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My understanding was that the “boob” was banned. He was threatening everybody, saying he knew where people lived, etc. etc. and he was coming after them. I think he even threatened to drive 3,000 miles and and hunt ME down for some minor slight.
February 20th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Even getting cut and arrested in the same season wasn’t a wake up call. Hilarious that people still say that the Raiders should bring him back and give him a chance.
February 20th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
same year*, not season… season would imply he’s a professional football player…
February 20th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
Raider Debo told us to stay tuned on the Jamarcus front.
I have the feeling the Debo is more confident in a Jamarcus return to the NFL than Jamarcus Russell himself.
February 20th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Ray,
When it comes to basketball, it seems to come down to the last 15 seconds half the time.
Betting on hoops is just maddening.
February 20th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Dj, you are a dedicated Raider, a true fan, what is up woth this?
February 20th, 2011 at 5:34 pm
860, I heard Bob is on Vaca somewhere!
For some strange reason I’m more into the NBA All-Star game then the Pro-Bowl….
February 20th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Hear yo bro, go EAST!
February 20th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
#1020
February 20th, 2011 at 6:07 pm
Night All….Raider On!!!!!!!!
February 20th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
(My best Ice Cube impression) “WESSSSTTTT SIIIIIDDDDDE…Yeah Aye Aye!!!!”
February 20th, 2011 at 6:53 pm
I’m lookin good right now…let’s see how the 2nd half turns out!
February 20th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Woe!… 1000+ comments. Raider mania is alive and well.
February 20th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
09, I forgot to mention…I was the 1000th BLOGGER!!
Oh Yeah!!!
February 20th, 2011 at 7:04 pm
Wow…the All-Star has a bigger Half Time Show than the Super Bowl and The ProBowl combined!
February 20th, 2011 at 7:05 pm
Hey I like this..having this whole blog all to myself!
February 20th, 2011 at 7:29 pm
“All by myself.. Don’t wanna be.. All by myself.. Anymore!”
February 20th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Wasup r8eray!
Just waiting for al(hue) to name a DC
February 20th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
You and half the bloggers in here!
February 20th, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Keep it coming Rayray. Show JMac what happens when he tries to have a life and leaves the blog in the sole hands of the Raider Nation.
February 20th, 2011 at 7:52 pm
Well in other news Yahoo did a ranking of NFL stadiums and the Oaktown Coliseum ranked 30th just ahead of the collapsing metro-dome in Minn.!
February 20th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
Damn, CA Football stadiums in general suck. I wish we get some NFL $ to get a new stadium or renovation ala Soldier Field. I know, same old story….
But you gotta figure the NFL helps CA’s economy somehow? Or is it just a tax-break sellout to these billionaires?
February 20th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
With Jamarcus, take him to Vagas, get hIm passout/blackout drunk, wake him up the next day and do it again, make/force him to get totally loaded day after day after day untill he’s ready to crash and burn very badly. Keep the cops out of it and then maybe if he’s lucky he hits that just right bottom that might enable his recovery. If properly covertly done very little risk to the origination. Unfrortunately >15% chance of working or just let him rot in Mobile.
February 20th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
RT, wait till they finish Farmers Field in L.A.!
February 20th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Daaaannnnnnnnnggggg….I hate that mofo Lebron!!
February 20th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
No city is ever, ever, ever giving Al Davis a new stadium.
February 20th, 2011 at 8:30 pm
“SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!”
February 20th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Vegas, was up dogg??? That’s how us Vegans do this ISH!!
February 20th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
Beat you were wishing you had the points there for a few seconds.
HAHA…..pizza and beer!!!
February 20th, 2011 at 8:38 pm
Great workout this morning got to c our new coach puttin in some work!! Rod woodson baby!! I might play safety now!
6:42 PM Feb 17th via Twitter for BlackBerry®
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Gradkowski is a twitter-queen.
But seriously, this guy is forever talking about “us” and “we”, repping the Raiders all the time.
Doesn’t he know he is a FA? Does he know something we don’t? Does he feel pretty confident knowing the guy who benched Al’s pet at QB and went with him got promoted to HC??
One of you twitter guys need to ask him.
February 20th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
I was sweatin it for a sec….I ain’t gonna lie!
February 20th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 8:17 pm
No city is ever, ever, ever giving Al Davis a new stadium.
……………al wants a new stadium al gets a new stadium
February 20th, 2011 at 8:42 pm
I follow Grads..I thought he was in L.A. for a wedding this weekend?
I guess he’s back in Alameda! Homeboy just flew in from Pitts. last week…boy he travels!
February 20th, 2011 at 9:11 pm
if al davis could part the red sea he can get a new stadium any time he wants.
February 20th, 2011 at 10:21 pm
Al Davis gets up in the morning, takes a shower and shaves just like most mortal men. The only difference is, when Al gets up in the morning he creates Super Bowl champions.
February 20th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Holy schytttt, we are over 1k posts. Been away from the site and just wanted to drop a hello to the nation. Take care folks.
February 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
So, Rod Woodson is some kind a defensive coach, and there’s no defensive coordinator, is that right?
February 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
1017.860Todd Christensen Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Dj, you are a dedicated Raider, a true fan, what is up woth this?
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Thanks man. The deal was he came on here after one of the losses and was bragging up San Fran and calling us “jokeland” and “faders” and doing the “hahahahaha you guys suck” stuff. I took exception to that cuz the guy was on here saying he tailgates all the time at the Coliseum, and bragging on how much of a fan he is etc. and then he comes here talkin’ that kind of garbage. I was actually one of the least on his “hit list”, but he was getting into it with just about everybody and telling everyone to meet him at the stadium to fight and that he knows where people live etc.
It was weird.
February 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Half you big-mouthed pootbutts weren’t even alive in 1984, when Marcus Allen reversed that 84 yard muthahubbard.
February 20th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
The Coliseum ranking 30th by “yahoo” doesn’t surprise me. Easy to pick on with it being shred by a baseball team and having the sand infield part of the year and all that, but those types always think newer is better. Maybe the Coliseum isn’t the best but it has character. I’m not one of those who think newer is always “better”. Heck, I looooved the old County Stadium in Milwaukee where GB used to play half their home games. But I acknowledge I am in the minority on that one.
Lambeau Field isn’t the best place to watch a game but I’m sure it ranked much higher than the Coliseum.
February 20th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
1050.KoolKell Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Half you big-mouthed pootbutts weren’t even alive in 1984, when Marcus Allen reversed that 84 yard muthahubbard.
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I was. That run was one of the most beautiful things I’ve ever seen. He was like a gazelle reversing field and cutting back and then slicing through like that.
Truly one of the greatest moments in Raider history imo.
February 20th, 2011 at 11:16 pm
Alrighty then.
February 21st, 2011 at 12:15 am
Po po scanner is coo! The fuzz just snatched up
A dude 4 punching his girl in the face. Dude was wearing a Dungver jacket.
24th and Fruitridge, by Corp yard.
February 21st, 2011 at 4:19 am
so …
whats the “big” news this weekend?
O.J. Atogwe will visit the Redskins & Bob Sanders will visit the Vikings?
the Eagles have signed ex-Bengal LB Rashad Jeanty?
the Donks are switching back to a 4-3 defense?
Terrell Owens mouthing off about the Bungles coaching staff?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz
February 21st, 2011 at 6:09 am
The only thing with “character” at the coliseum are the people in attendance. That’s what you might lose with a new stadium, higher-priced tix usher in a new fan-base.
It’s like an old bar compared to a new one. The new bar has the new pool tables, the hotter girls, the more happening scene, and the new flat-screen TV’s. The old bar only has to offer cheaper drinks and a more down to earth crowd.
But make no mistake, the old bar smells like piss and stale smoke, and is a dump, but has “character” due to the people that frequent it.
February 21st, 2011 at 6:28 am
Nice analogy JFB.
February 21st, 2011 at 6:32 am
I think we need to get Otagwe in here! He would be a great replacement for Huff if we cant get him done, and if we can that Otagwe provides unmatched depth! This guy has generated 44 turnovers in the last 5 years playing on some garbage defenses in STL. He is exactly the type of playmaker our defense could use.
February 21st, 2011 at 6:34 am
Would Otagwe be cheaper than Huff??
February 21st, 2011 at 6:38 am
I dont know. I looked into it and the Rams cut him because he was due an 8 million roster bonus on March 1st. Im sure at his age a reasonable 3-5 year deal could be worked out.
February 21st, 2011 at 6:47 am
Otogwae mite be nice. But I don’t know if he would be better at playing the deep free safety position. It’s takin huff a long time to get it down. I say sign huff an having rod woodson on staff huff Wil makes leaps an bounds this season
February 21st, 2011 at 6:50 am
Otagwe. Sorry for mispelling
February 21st, 2011 at 6:59 am
IMO…Stay away from Atogwe or any other FA safety, let Stevie Brown develop, the kid has starting potential, having Woodson around can only help.
February 21st, 2011 at 7:02 am
For the right price, I dont know how you can stay away from a guy like Otagwe. He is a turnover machine!
February 21st, 2011 at 7:18 am
1048.KoolKell Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
So, Rod Woodson is some kind a defensive coach, and there’s no defensive coordinator, is that right?
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Sure there is. His first name is Al. All he needs is someone to handle the paperwork.
February 21st, 2011 at 7:20 am
top of the morning nation,
holiday for some of us..
February 21st, 2011 at 9:06 am
KoolKell Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Half you big-mouthed pootbutts weren’t even alive in 1984!!
February 21st, 2011 at 9:08 am
Mybad…I meant to say Good Morning, don’t know where that came from!
February 21st, 2011 at 9:16 am
Thats right!
Nothing gets by you eh KK? You should be a pvt investigator with those skills, make some use of your time instead of blogging 18hrs a day.
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# KoolKell Says:
February 20th, 2011 at 10:42 pm
So, Rod Woodson is some kind a defensive coach, and there’s no defensive coordinator, is that right?
February 21st, 2011 at 9:19 am
It seems like only yesterday that Jets coach Rex Ryan was proclaiming that Vernon Gholston’s “nuts were dropping” on Hard Knocks.
After another sack-less season, it sounds like Gholston will be dropped off the Jets roster. ESPNNewYork.com’s Rich Cimini called Gholston a “goner” in his positional review.
Go get him Al!!
February 21st, 2011 at 9:20 am
BO(purple lips) should do the right thing and step down on Pres’s Day. He has been nothing but a failure and a insult to the oval office since the day he was sworn in with his hand on the Koran.
February 21st, 2011 at 9:22 am
R8eray whats draws you to a failure like Gholston who has been a colossal bust? Do you like his abs or something? What would his ZERO sacks do to help the Raiders?
February 21st, 2011 at 9:31 am
morning ray, we seem to be the only members alive and tuned in..the am crew is not at work today…
February 21st, 2011 at 9:32 am
mistafrown..
okay, with you measeure stick, when did you have a good prez then, if you say BO is no good, I must assume you think Jr was bad as well, so who was a great prez?
February 21st, 2011 at 9:33 am
Im here…
February 21st, 2011 at 9:34 am
Br0wn, Im gonna use Wimbley as an example…Wimbley in 3 years had a combined of 15 sacks, 1 year with the Raiders had 9!
Wimbley 1st RD. 13th overall..
Gholston 1st RD. 6th overall..
I think with our D-line he’ll improve his stats dramatically!!
You know Al..loves them 1st rounders!
February 21st, 2011 at 9:36 am
Off topic question… any of you computer savvy? Im trying to find a decent laptop. There are a billion choices and I just dont know whats good and what is garbage anymore.
February 21st, 2011 at 9:39 am
24, how much are you looking to spend?
February 21st, 2011 at 9:50 am
I’m not that savvy either but have purchased a few (4) in the last 6 of years.
1st one was a Compaq…took a $h!t
2nd one was a Gateway…stolen!
3rd one was a Toshiba…had that one the longest but the kids dropped it off the high chair and cracked the screen.
4th one, I got me a Toshiba….again, paid 400+tax (holiday special) I figured the way I go through them why spend 1000 bucks for one.
February 21st, 2011 at 9:50 am
bcz top of the morning, didn’t mean to offend no one had posted in two hours,, glad you are here and anyone else on the side including mista…
one an aside ray is asking the right question because i think the consensus answer is a mac but it depends on the dollars.. some say it is not worth spending three times what other laptops cost, mac owners say unless you own a mac you have never had a laptop computer!!!
February 21st, 2011 at 9:51 am
Ok, because Gholston was drafted 6th we should go get him nevermind he cant play football! With that logic AL should go after Ryan Leaf too.
Have you thought about a career as GM R8eray?
February 21st, 2011 at 9:51 am
$6-800 I want a 17″ screen. That and I would like a dedicated GPU. No intel graphics!
February 21st, 2011 at 9:51 am
Vikings will place franchise tag today on LB Chad Greenway. This means that neither WR Sidney Rice nor DE Ray Edwards will be tagged!!
Go get ‘em Al!
February 21st, 2011 at 9:52 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 9:36 am
Off topic question… any of you computer savvy? Im trying to find a decent laptop. There are a billion choices and I just dont know whats good and what is garbage anymore.
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BCZ24…
A laptop PC? then I always would choose IBM, but if you have the extra cash, a MacBook Pro certainly would preferable..
February 21st, 2011 at 9:53 am
Yeah I cant see spending that much dough on a computer. Macs are great, but for me if I am going to drop $2000 on a computer I am going for AlienWare.
February 21st, 2011 at 9:56 am
I would love to go get Sidney Rice.
February 21st, 2011 at 10:07 am
Rice is only 24 years old??? WOW…still has thread on them tires!
2009 being his best year with 1,312 Rec. Yrds. 8 TD’s….not bad @ all compared to our receivers.
When was the last time we had a receiver have over 1,000 yards?? I can’t remember!
February 21st, 2011 at 10:11 am
Rice is a playmaker. He will draw a big time contract on free agency (if that ever happens)
February 21st, 2011 at 10:13 am
Reports are Plaxico wants to play in the West Coast!
February 21st, 2011 at 10:14 am
Sign Sidney Rice? And completely surrender on the DHB front? Never!
February 21st, 2011 at 10:16 am
Problem with Plaxico is he tends to shoot himself on the foot.
February 21st, 2011 at 10:16 am
I wanted to draft Rice… not only because we then would have Rice and curry (pun intended) but also because he is a good kid, I had him on my FFL team then, and all in the league nearly didn know anything about him… problem for me that year was Rice didnt do much for me or his team…
but fast forward he now has all you want, though he was injured last year, he still has it…
anyhoo, I dont think he will leave Minnesota
February 21st, 2011 at 10:16 am
We dont have to give up on DHB. We can afford to get rid of Higgins (Ford clearly replaces anything Higs can do) and Chaz (always injured)
February 21st, 2011 at 10:18 am
# r8eray Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 10:13 am
Reports are Plaxico wants to play in the West Coast!
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I wouldnt have any problem with him as a raider
February 21st, 2011 at 10:25 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 10:16 am
I wanted to draft Rice… not only because we then would have Rice and curry (pun intended)
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Coached by Sanjay Lal!
February 21st, 2011 at 10:28 am
bcz24 Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 10:16 am
We dont have to give up on DHB. We can afford to get rid of Higgins (Ford clearly replaces anything Higs can do) and Chaz (always injured)
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Would you really rather give up on Chaz before DHB?
JLH is a no brainer but Chaz!!
February 21st, 2011 at 10:39 am
Seems to me Jerry’s on Vaca before he flies out to Indianapolis…..2 more days Jerry!!
February 21st, 2011 at 10:44 am
12kr for a liter gasoline, thats more than 8$ per gallon
February 21st, 2011 at 10:48 am
610.YoungAmerican Says:
February 18th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Joseph, Routt, Page and Mitchell/Branch wouldn’t be too bad.
Richard Marshall and Antonio Cromartie are also options, but Joseph would be key. He would also be about $8-9 million less than Nnamdi.
I’d also like to see the Raiders snag CB Davon House from New Mexico State in the 5th round. Guy has size, speed, and makes plays. Could be a good youngster to bring along with McFadden and Ware.
With Woodson coaching the CBs, now is the time to bring young CBs in for him to mentor.
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YA,
This would be a below average secondary in an absolute sense.
THe Raiders gave up 29 passing TDs despite having a starting CB that gave up ZERO!
I am not trying to be negative but realistic.
Who’s coming in here that can even approach Nnamdi’s shadow?
Some 5th round pick from Auburn?
Reality is this…the Raiders are going to have to change their scheme and focus most of its attention on getting pressure on the QB with the front 7.
THeir defense is going to have to run more zones….more exotic blitzes.
Running the standard man2man “natural 4 pressure” won’t work with below average secondary….which is now a weakness
February 21st, 2011 at 10:48 am
Would you really rather give up on Chaz before DHB?
JLH is a no brainer but Chaz!!
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In a perfect world, no, but given that neither has done anything of note in the last 2 years, I would be willing to give up Chaz since that is a more realistic possibility.
In reality I think we will suffer through another year of the same with regards to our WRs. Chaz will get injured in camp and will be projected to be back by week 4, but wont see the field until week 16. DHB will change #s in an effort to confuse people but will remain invisible. Murphy will be ok early but will have too many drops, and Ford will show real promise but I still dont see him over 60 catches 1000 yards.
February 21st, 2011 at 10:49 am
Ya Jer, there has to be something to report about. Herrera pissin in the bushes or something.
February 21st, 2011 at 10:51 am
One of the worst defenses in the NFL in giving up passing TDs…..and that with the best CB in the league….
Hope they stop the run next year and force more obvious passing downs
February 21st, 2011 at 10:51 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 10:44 am
12kr for a liter gasoline, thats more than 8$ per gallon
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HOLY SCHIT MAN!!! I would quit my job at $8 a gallon. I drive 400 miles a week just to/from work. I would be spending more than $8000 a year on gas only.
February 21st, 2011 at 10:52 am
No way…..I would put DHB on the road before Chaz Schilens.
Schilens issue is staying healthy.
DHB can’t play
February 21st, 2011 at 10:54 am
DHB was drafted top 10 of round 1, Chaz was a 7th rounder. I agree that Chaz is better, but we are talking about the reality of the Oakland Raiders here. Not logic. We paid Javon Walker 917,000 per CATCH!
February 21st, 2011 at 10:57 am
1105.bcz24 Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 10:54 am
DHB was drafted top 10 of round 1, Chaz was a 7th rounder. I agree that Chaz is better, but we are talking about the reality of the Oakland Raiders here. Not logic. We paid Javon Walker 917,000 per CATCH!
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WEll, if its about ego and standing up to the media…then keep DHB.
But the kid hasn’t done jack in 2 years. Nothing.
Schilens has done more in much more limited time.
But if Davis wants to see DHB till the bitter end then so be it….but it won’t help Jason Campbell, Hue Jackson, the Raiders and winning
February 21st, 2011 at 10:58 am
1098.La Milicia Negra Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 10:44 am
12kr for a liter gasoline, thats more than 8$ per gallon
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Better to use less gasoline, encourage other forms of transportation and stop sending Dollars to unstable parts of the world
February 21st, 2011 at 11:00 am
As the questions surround just exactly what will happen to former Oakland Raiders CB Nnamdi Asomugha, Raiders fans should not be looking towards possible free agent Denver Broncos CB Champ Bailey. Currently, the Broncos have opened up talks with the veteran corner and Denver’s new vice president of football operations, John Elways says he wants to get a deal done with Bailey. Bailey’s agent told the Denver Post that they are looking for a four-year extension on his current contract in the $40-44 million dollar range.
February 21st, 2011 at 11:02 am
We just saw the above headline and asked the same things that many of you are asking right now…1. Why? and 2. Should/Would the Miami Dolphins be interested? It appears that when Plaxico Burress is released from prison in early June, he would like to escape New York and head to a warmer climate, ideally near his home in Miami. This information is based on a report from the Daily News, citing ‘someone familiar with Burress’ thinking’ (possibly his agent?). whereistheoutrage.net We’re passing this news along, not because we think he’ll end up with the Miami Dolphins, but the prospect might not be AS CRAZY as you might think. The topic will also likely bring about some good discussion, which we value at PhinNation.com. Why Miami? Plaxico is just about done serving his 2.5 years in prison and he wants to put this entire situation behind him. He won’t be able to do that in New York with the Giants or the Jets for that matter.
February 21st, 2011 at 11:03 am
Phatcable,
THe Raiders will have to just move on without Nnamdi. Anyone who thinks the Raiders can and will just plug in another elite CB doesn’t respect how valuable elite CBs are.
Joseph will be pursued by Cincy and other teams…same with Bailey…
The Raiders are going to have to hope that Walter McFadden makes a huge leap from that disaster he was in the Miami game
Raiders give up 29 passing TDs with a CB who locked down his side of the field and gave up zero…….
Not looking good next year for the pass defense
February 21st, 2011 at 11:05 am
Greenway was franchised by Vikes – Now Sid Rice looks pretty awsome as a free agent! He would be a perfect fit and he has the hands to make the tough catch and catch the occational tough balls.. He would be perfect in Silver and Black!
February 21st, 2011 at 11:08 am
1111.Harder2000 Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 11:05 am
Greenway was franchised by Vikes – Now Sid Rice looks pretty awsome as a free agent! He would be a perfect fit and he has the hands to make the tough catch and catch the occational tough balls.. He would be perfect in Silver and Black!
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Yeah, the Raiders should focus on getting Rice for sure.
I totally agree. The current crop of receivers can’t get the job done….just the bottom line….Rice would be the guy to pair with Zach Miller and Jacoby Ford and at least give us a chance.
bUt there will be a lot of real competition for his services.
The offense will have to be elite….I think the defense is going to have more Jax like games next year
February 21st, 2011 at 11:12 am
Ray Edwards could also be a good addition to Houston and Shaugh, especially if Houston gets more time on the inside as he did last season as it progressed..
February 21st, 2011 at 11:14 am
Yeah, he will be coveted by most, and he should be.. He is a great reciever, and as you say, Zach and Ford would get more room to run.. He will be expensive, but he is young and a reciever for many many years to come!
February 21st, 2011 at 11:22 am
bcz24 Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 9:36 am
Off topic question… any of you computer savvy? Im trying to find a decent laptop. There are a billion choices and I just dont know whats good and what is garbage anymore.
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Apple Macintosh – Cost a little more but so much better. Especially good for non-heavy computer users – easy to use. New ones come with Snow Leopard operating system but you can run windows 7 if you want. I have both but Windows 7 simply doesn’t compare. Once you use a Mac, you’ll never go back to PC. Using Mac since 1986.
February 21st, 2011 at 11:27 am
YA,
This would be a below average secondary in an absolute sense.
THe Raiders gave up 29 passing TDs despite having a starting CB that gave up ZERO!
I am not trying to be negative but realistic.
Who’s coming in here that can even approach Nnamdi’s shadow?
Some 5th round pick from Auburn?
Reality is this…the Raiders are going to have to change their scheme and focus most of its attention on getting pressure on the QB with the front 7.
THeir defense is going to have to run more zones….more exotic blitzes.
Running the standard man2man “natural 4 pressure” won’t work with below average secondary….which is now a weakness
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I agree with you, but the Raiders are looking at having an almost entirely new secondary regardless.
If they re-sign Asomugha for around $15 million a year, they won’t be throwing a big-money deal Michael Huff’s way. Possibly not even Routt’s way.
If Asomugha walks? Jonathan Joseph is the best we can hope for to replace him. Maybe the Raiders will have money for Routt and Huff then, but it’ll still be a step back for the Raiders’ secondary.
You’re right, the defense is going to have to get more aggressive. If they do that, then the new guys in the secondary might not have trouble adjusting.
Will that actually happen? Who knows.
February 21st, 2011 at 11:30 am
I don’t rule out the possibility of Al drafting a CB with the Raiders’ first draft pick, but he’d likely have to trade up to get a guy who could come in and play right away. And even then, the kid would need time to adjust to playing man-to-man 90% of the time.
February 21st, 2011 at 11:33 am
There is 30 teams in the NFL that dont have a Nnamdi Asomugha caliber corner and about 28 of them gave up less touchdowns. Losing Nnamdi will spread the pressure out to the whole secondary and could well end up being addition by subtraction.
February 21st, 2011 at 11:38 am
But those other teams also don’t play man-to-man 90% of the time.
February 21st, 2011 at 11:40 am
# SnB Production Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 10:58 am
1098.La Milicia Negra Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 10:44 am
12kr for a liter gasoline, thats more than 8$ per gallon
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Better to use less gasoline, encourage other forms of transportation and stop sending Dollars to unstable parts of the world
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we have excellent public transportation.. but still..
February 21st, 2011 at 11:53 am
Sidney Rice was drafted in 2007, like Zach Miller (both in Round 2)
He’ll be a RESTRICTED free agent and will probably receive the highest tender offer
you don’t just let Pro Bowl WR’s under 25 years old walk away …
February 21st, 2011 at 11:55 am
He might be worth a 1st and a 3rd to the right team (St Louis comes to mind)
February 21st, 2011 at 11:57 am
by the way,
Sidney Rice ran a 4.51 at the combine. I’m sure Al Davis remembers that. That’s far from “Raider speed”
the best we can hope for is Darrius Heyward-Bey growing a pair (of hands) this offseason and Chaz finally staying healthy. The maturation of Ford & Murphy is also paramount to the success of our passing game
… but i’m afraid it’s all for naught if we can’t retain the services of Bush, Reece & Miller this offseason – in addition to ZERO dropoff in production in regards to run blocking with 4 new starters on the O-Line
February 21st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Al Davis will probably bring in the trio of Owens, Moss & Burress this offseason …
wave goodbye to Higgins & Nmiller. Chaz will receive an injury settlement
February 21st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
I just don’t understand why we are even worrying about retaining the svcs of Miller or Bush ….they both will be RFAs …meaning all the Raiders have to do is match the best offer they would receive on the open market.
Personally, I don’t think either will fetch anyhing above what the Raiders are willing to pay.
February 21st, 2011 at 12:14 pm
I think an even bigger problem for DHB than his hands is his inability to seperate from corners. He doesnt get many balls his way (im sure because our qbs arent confident in him) because he is unable to get open.
February 21st, 2011 at 12:15 pm
back to the grind…
CYA gents!
February 21st, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 21st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Al Davis will probably bring in the trio of Owens, Moss & Burress this offseason …
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I wouldnt be mad at all to have those 3 guys in camp fighting for 2 spots.
February 21st, 2011 at 12:39 pm
no new posts jerry must be in aruba!
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