Fox: Wimbley gets word he’ll be a Raider in 2011
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, February 22nd, 2011 at 7:07 am in Oakland Raiders.
Kamerion Wimbley, who led the Raiders in sacks and had his best season since his rookie season as one of the better trade acquisitions, has been informed he will remain in Oakland, according to Adam Caplan of FoxSports.com.
Wimbley’s original six year contract contained a void for the final year, but also included a “buy back” believed to be $3.5 million which the Raiders exercised.
Oakland dealt a third-round draft pick to Cleveland for Wimbley last March 14, played him as a starting strong side linebacker and a nickel pass rusher, and he responded with a team-high nine sacks as the Raiders had 47 for the season.
The Raiders must decide by Wednesday whether to use a franchise tag in 2011. Speculation has Zach Miller as the most likely target, although it’s uncertain if the Raiders will avail themselves of the designation this season.
If Miller were to be franchised, he would be due approximately $7.3 million this season. A four-year veteran, there is no guarantee Miller would be available for unrestricted free agency under a new collective bargaining agreement. The Raiders, however, would be on the hook for that figure even if a new CBA set unrestricted free agency at five or six years _ meaning they cost themselves a lot of money because they simply could have placed a restrictive tender on him and had the chance to match any offer.
Regardless, there’s no reason to believe Miller won’t be a Raider in 2011. Historically, Al Davis has been very good at keeping players he wants to keep. Miller has been the Raiders leading receiver each of the last four years since being a second-round draft pick out of Arizona State in 2007.
At present, the only other tight ends on the Oakland roster are Brandon Myers and Kevin Brock, the latter a reserve/future signing who spent time on the 2010 practice squad.
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February 22nd, 2011 at 7:11 am
Why not just offer Miller a contract, or have they?
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:12 am
Good morning Jerry.
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:13 am
That seems just a little too easy Carl.
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:15 am
The next game-breaker?.
As rookies:
Desean Jackson: 15 starts 62-912-2—14.7 ypc. 1 Ret TD.
Jacoby Ford: 9 starts 25-470-2—18.8 ypc. 3 Ret. TD.
As I said last week, Al Saunders coached WR’s for Don Coryell, Marty and won a ring in that position with Vermeil’s Rams, let him work with DHB, Murphy and Ford.
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:15 am
I don’t think Miller or Bush will be eligble for free agency. Four years just seems to short considering most players don’t have much impact in year one and sometimes year two, if at all.
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:15 am
I guess, like my season ticket status…Miller is put on hold until a new CBA is in place…but oops! I forgot to call on Friday (deadline)…lol
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:16 am
Maybe Sanjay Lal can learn a thing or two from Saunders as well.
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:17 am
#7…..
Ouch!!
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:19 am
Keep your money in the bank Hwnrdr.
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:20 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:07 am
Jacoby Ford draft preview
Strengths
Ford is a premier track athlete with excellent timed top-end speed. Exhibited great foot quickness as a returner and running reverses in college. Flashes the ability to adjust to off target throws and bail out his quarterback. Was a very productive player whose team always tried to get him involved early and often.
Don’t know who wrote this but they were bang on, especially here:
“Flashes the ability to adjust to off target throws and bail out his quarterback.”
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neilb Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:10 am
Whoever wrote that should have played the lottery that week.
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No shlt!
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:22 am
Speaking of Lal, can we bring in Tim Brown as assistant WR coach to phase out Lal by 2012. Or how about Jett?@! j/k
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:27 am
well thats good news…
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:29 am
Neil b
are you going to see tonights game ?.. the chelsea game?
even though F(u)CK are my rivals I hope they pull it off, it would mean we would have easier access to Champions league…
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:29 am
Not a bad trade for a 3rd rd pick. Jarvis Moss might be a keeper too.
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:32 am
neilb Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:19 am
Keep your money in the bank Hwnrdr.
Afternoon Neil! How’s things on your side of the Atlantic? But I hear ya…not moving until I know there is a season!
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:42 am
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February 22nd, 2011 at 7:53 am
Wimbley the real qb killa back, sounds good to me.
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 am
To think, we only got Ford because of the Morrison trade. I think we get the good end of that one.
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:12 am
I see no benefit in franchising Miller right now.
First off, there is no CBA. When there is one, if there is franchise tags still, you can wait until than to do it.
Also, 7.3 million is way too much. If you are going to pay that for one year, you might as well double that, and you can probably wrap him up for 3 years.
Than there is the chance that under the new CBA, he will be a restricted FA anyways, and we can just let him go feel out some offers and than match it.
No sense franchising him this week.
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:20 am
Kamerion Wembley was a steal for a 3rd round pick.
Great job by Herrera and his staff (somewhat kidding)
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:22 am
Speaking of Lal, can we bring in Tim Brown as assistant WR coach to phase out Lal by 2012. Or how about Jett?@! j/k
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Lal started as a quality control guy, than got a contract extension and a promotion to WR’s.
He is now on his 3rd head coach, and was one of the few coaches in attendance at the Senior Bowl.
He isn’t going anywhere but up in this organization. Wouldn’t be suprised if he moved up to scouting and personnel later as well.
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:35 am
Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:12 am
I see no benefit in franchising Miller right now.
First off, there is no CBA. When there is one, if there is franchise tags still, you can wait until than to do it.
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Actually Thursday is the deadline for applying the franchise tag. We are gambling that Miller and Bush will be RFAs. ITs a relatively safe bet though. I agree that north of 7 million is WAY too much for Miller. Dallas Clark only makes 5 million a year. We can lock Miller up for a 3 year deal for no more than 15 mill. Although I would pay him 3 mill a year with some incentives.
If money is a problem, we can start by restructuring DHB. That guy shouldnt be making any more than league minimum with some decent incentives incase he steps it up this year.
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:42 am
Good Morning A.M. Crew!
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:44 am
Good afternoon fellas.
Thank gawd for that option in Wimbley’s contract. Hopefully now they can reach a long term deal. This guy was an integral part of their much improved pass rush.
Much like Seymour, it seemed shaky to trade a high draft pick for a player going into his contract year without reaching an extension.
If they can get Kamerion locked up, that would make for an excellent trade. Guy was a steal.
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:44 am
Wimbley seems to disappear for looong stretches. I worry he’s one of those guys who only plays when it suits him.
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:44 am
I think we’re going to see pretty much the same squad this year and thats not a bad thing.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:01 am
16.Topsy. Ufck off with spammin BS
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:01 am
GoodOle00 Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:44 am
Wimbley seems to disappear for looong stretches. I worry he’s one of those guys who only plays when it suits him.
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When he was in Cleveland. For us he was pretty steady and now he’s playing for a new contract next season.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:06 am
We can thank the great Rob Ryan for letting Wimbley go free the big moronic Ox that he is!
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:08 am
I wake up this morning to see my dog get her first period. The whole back patio was covered in blood…looking like a crime scene.
So I walk back there and take a look, I see nothing so I start examining her to see her va-jae-jae all swollen.
She’s a big girl now…..she’s Daddy’s little girl..
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:10 am
Thanks for sharing!
Whats next R8eray you gonna tell us the color of her stools ?
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:11 am
7. No sh-ite. SanJays promotion and the age of our wides made little sense
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:13 am
28. Seems like he had the same M.O. for the Browns. Why they let him go
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:14 am
Only if you would to know, br0wn!
Just for you!
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:14 am
30. You’ll have to start using birth control now R8Ray
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:15 am
Peace Nation. Enjoy the day!
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:20 am
The thing with Wembley is that he really only seemed to have his one “go-to” move.
The quick off the ball, get low to the ground, dip-move. He is great at it, but if it doesn’t work, he just gets pushed behind the play.
Nevertheless, he is WAAAAAY better than Trevor Scott.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:22 am
Sanjay deserves some credit for Jacoby Ford last year, and for getting some production from Murphy as a rookie, and even getting a 7th rounder like Chaz to produce when healthy.
He gets a lot of bashing for DHB’s lack of growth, but I think DHB himself is more the root cause of his 2 TD’s in 2 years than Sanjay Lal.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:24 am
Ray,
Uhhh……..just don’t post stuff like that pre-breakfast, lol.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:30 am
Kamerion is supposed to be a class-act and a very well educated dude.
I don’t see him as a play-for-a-contract type of guy.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:31 am
What about Transitioning Miller? We’d only be on the hook for the average of the top 10 TE’s in the league, and be assured of matching rights.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:32 am
Morning peoples!
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:36 am
Profootballtalk.com confirms that the transition tag is available only to players with six accrued seasons in the NFL.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:36 am
Charles Woodson is willing to move from corner to safety if the Packers can sign free agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha.
Asomugha was Woodson’s teammate in Oakland from 2003-2005, although he insists he’s “not doing any recruiting,” and the two have only “texted a few times about winning a Super Bowl.” Woodson can probably save his text messages, because the last time Packers GM Ted Thompson made a pricey free agent move, it was April 2006. We’ll let you guess who he signed.
Related: Raiders, Nnamdi Asomugha
Source: ESPN Milwaukee
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:40 am
Don’t no if it was Sanjay who was responsible, but when Ford came out from College he had serious problems with adjusting to breakdowns and turns – he couldnt keep his speed going in and coming out of cuts, now he can! He blazes down the strecth but still manage to keep his speed when doing a cut, thats a great asset, and whoever helped him achieve that deserves at least some credit! Now we just need a guy who can help learn how to catch and clutch, then we’re good..
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:43 am
Vegas, my bad…I’m just a proud Father!
I’m looking forward to being a Grandfather…soon!
I’ll wait till her next cycle….maybe 3rd.
5th generation AKC English Bulldog…..
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:44 am
Ted Thompson isnt the type of game to make huge free agent splashes. I would guess there is a 0% chance Nnamdi goes to GB. GB is stacked at CB anyways.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:51 am
GB knows #21 isn’t physical or a play maker.
We will prob resign Aso for cheap because nobody will pay him what he wants.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:53 am
A league source confirmed to Profootballtalk.com that the Ravens will not formally decide Willis McGahee’s fate until after a new collective bargaining agreement is arranged.
Monday’s news that the Ravens won’t bring back McGahee for $6 million wasn’t the least bit surprising, and it’s possible the sides could attempt to redo his contract before or just after the CBA. The most likely outcome remains that McGahee will be cut and get one last shot at unrestricted free agency. Regardless, teams won’t view him as more than a rotational back.
Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
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If he gets cut, he would be the perfect back-up.IMO(thats if Bush walks)
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:54 am
Btw,
Where’s Raider O? Haven’t heard from him in awhile. Surely he can’t be too deep into studies to post.
Shouldn’t he be posting some of his many mock drafts right about now? Did he say something to get banned?
Hopefully he didn’t get pulled over with a trunk full of good smoke.
So,
Go Bucks!
Legalize it.
and most importantly, Just win, Baby!
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:08 am
“batman style batman style…..everything black,black ass mack black ass shoes with a black ass strap”
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:10 am
Why bring Non-D Asomugha back at a high tag?
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:21 am
30.r8eray Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:08 am
I wake up this morning to see my dog get her first period. The whole back patio was covered in blood…looking like a crime scene.
So I walk back there and take a look, I see nothing so I start examining her to see her va-jae-jae all swollen.
She’s a big girl now…..she’s Daddy’s little girl..
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Come on mang, admit it, in a drunken stooper last night you tapped that azzz
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:30 am
Let Asomugha walk, unless he comes back for a reasonable price…
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:34 am
Re-Signing Dicky Seymour was the Raider’s NUMBER ONE priority this offseason. They took care of that. The rest is gravy. Getting Zach Miller signed is more important than Asomugha.
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:37 am
Having ONE shutdown corners is useless. It simply exposes the rest of the d-backs no matter what their level of expertise is. Im not dissing Aso, he is good, but not worth the money etc….
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:44 am
BAUCE!
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:47 am
I put Huff as #2 priority to re-sign behind Seymour.
When you factor in his production, handful of turnovers a year, pretty good tackler and cover guy, for his price tag, it just makes way more sense than re-signing #21 for a zillion dollars again.
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:51 am
Just Fire Baby – I disagree just a bit. Signing Z Miller is more important than Huff, though, both are nearly the same in importance. More possible FA’s to fill Huff’s spot than Z Millers.
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:51 am
YoungAmer told me just the other day I was the ONLY one that didn’t think #21 walks on water.
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# Kevin Flynn Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:30 am
Let Asomugha walk, unless he comes back for a reasonable price…
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:53 am
30.r8eray Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:08 am
I wake up this morning to see my dog get her first period. The whole back patio was covered in blood…looking like a crime scene.
So I walk back there and take a look, I see nothing so I start examining her to see her va-jae-jae all swollen.
She’s a big girl now…..she’s Daddy’s little girl..
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Come on mang, admit it, in a drunken stooper last night you tapped that azzz
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LMFAO…….woof woof!!
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:55 am
LOL R8eray!! I’m glad you saw the humor in my response and didn’t see it as disrespect. I was worried after I clicked on “Submit COmment”
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:56 am
56.Kevin Flynn Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:37 am
Having ONE shutdown corners is useless. It simply exposes the rest of the d-backs no matter what their level of expertise is. Im not dissing Aso, he is good, but not worth the money etc….
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That’s not a popular opinion around here, but one I personally agree with.
To me, with THIS Raider team, all Aso’s presence does is make it a 10 on 10 game instead of 11 on 11.
On highlight shows when they are talking about Aso and they show him in action they always show him maiking a good tackle; as if THAT is something he brings to the table. It is not. He makes VERY FEW tackles.
He is a class act and a great face for the franchise and his ability to shut down a receiver is second to none. He gets my props big time, but for THIS team, unless you have a guy on the other corner doing pretty much the same thing, then it really doesn’t translate into stopping the other team make a lot of yardage.
Double digit losses for 7 years WITH him back there. How much worse could we get?
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:51 am
YoungAmer told me just the other day I was the ONLY one that didn’t think #21 walks on water.
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No you tool, I said you’re the only one who thinks he sucks. Even Kevin Flynn admits he’s a good player.
And I agree with Mr. Flynn. If Asomugha isn’t willing to come back at a discount, let him walk. The Raiders can’t afford $30 million + per year on just two players.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:06 am
for THIS team, unless you have a guy on the other corner doing pretty much the same thing, then it really doesn’t translate into stopping the other team make a lot of yardage.
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Definitely. This is something I’ve been saying for a while now.
It’s no coincidence that every good Raiders team had two elite starting CBs. Brown/Thomas, Haynes/Hayes, Woodson/Allen…
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:09 am
Routt has done an admirable job seeing as much action as he does, but he’s not the kind of player that makes opposing QBs think twice before throwing at him. For having so many passes come his way, he really didn’t produce a lot of turnovers.
It’s why I think Huff should be a priority over Routt. Huff was getting to the QB, forcing fumbles, and made a few nice picks over the course of the season. The forced the most turnovers by far of anyone on that defense. Of course, it was a contract year, which makes me wonder if it was a mirage of if Huff has finally come into his own.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:09 am
52.General Bauce Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:10 am
Why bring Non-D Asomugha back at a high tag?
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Although we disagree on Nnamdi’s importance to the Raiders, I will give you credit for the name “non-D”, pretty clever.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:10 am
He forced*
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:17 am
Routt has done an admirable job seeing as much action as he does, but he’s not the kind of player that makes opposing QBs think twice before throwing at him. For having so many passes come his way, he really didn’t produce a lot of turnovers.
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But he did have the second most pass deflections in the NFL, and lets be honest, he also produced as many TDs as our start WR did as well. By the way, Huff only had 1 more INT than routt.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Our secondary in general has poor hands. Lots of dropped ints
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Huff only had 1 more INT than routt.
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Huff had four more sacks and three more forced fumbles, though.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:28 am
Aso is good, he is very good, I would currently place him in the top 5 of all current DB’s. With C. Woodson possibly #1. I don’t “want” Aso to walk, but I don’t “want” the Raiders to continue to overpay for a position that simply isn’t providng a Return On Investment (ROI).
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:33 am
I never said he sucks I said he is overrated. You have to put words in my mouth to save face. Go ahead and re-post me saying #21 sucks.
P.O.S
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YoungAmerican Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:04 am
No you tool, I said you’re the only one who thinks he sucks. Even Kevin Flynn admits he’s a good player.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Huff had four more sacks and three more forced fumbles, though.
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True, but more a product of the fact that our scheme blitzes safetys not corners. Routt cant be expected to have sacks if he isnt blitzing.
Not saying Huff isnt a playmaker, or isnt important to the team. Its a slow day at work and I like to argue with reasonable people.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:37 am
#21 barely got his jersey dirty. 17 tackles in a season, are you kidding me, how about some run support Aso!
ZERO INT’s & ZERO forced fumbles…pay him 5 mil or send his dainty azz packin!
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:39 am
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 8:35 pm
#21 will never win a SB, you can put him on any team you like its not going to happen. #21 isnt a playmaker, never has been one, never will be one.
Take your bleeding heart bullsh!t and stick it where the sun dont ever shine.
F #21 and the sissy a$$ horse he rode in on.
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Mistabr0wn Says:
February 17th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
So much love for a player that has done almost nothing for this organization in what 7 years? One good season in 2006 and the rest is total garbage & derelict Raider fans suk on that guys pipe like he pays your mortgage.
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And those are just the recent ones. Weren’t you banned for a while?
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Moron, did I say he sucks?
lmao did you read it before you posted? He isnt a play maker, he is overrated. I didnt say he sucks.
GTFO here you idiot!
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:43 am
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# bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:34 am
Huff had four more sacks and three more forced fumbles, though.
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True, but more a product of the fact that our scheme blitzes safetys not corners. Routt cant be expected to have sacks if he isnt blitzing.
Not saying Huff isnt a playmaker, or isnt important to the team. Its a slow day at work and I like to argue with reasonable people.
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Haha word.
Nah, I agree with you for the most part.
Honestly I have serious questions about both Routt and Huff, considering both of them waited until a contract year to live up to the Raiders’ expectations, and even then the pass defense surrendered the second most TDs in the league.
A small part of me thinks that, especially if Nnamdi isn’t going to be back, it might be time to blow up the secondary and try to find playmakers elsewhere. But then a bigger part of me knows that all that means is A LOT of blown draft picks on big fast DBs.
Offensive line and secondary are full of question marks this season. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with the draft, as well as free agency once a CBA is reached.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:44 am
i think if nomdi is to be a raider next year depends on the new cba and cap limit.if you can lockup most of the rest of the team with his check ,and then he becomes too expensive then thats the way to go,versus give all the money to one player.but then again if al davis is willing to give that whats his name hall guy the kinda money he got ,i cant see nomdi not getting a fair offer
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:45 am
# Mistabr0wn Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:43 am
Moron, did I say he sucks?
lmao did you read it before you posted? He isnt a play maker, he is overrated. I didnt say he sucks.
GTFO here you idiot!
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Saying he had six “total garbage” seasons isn’t saying he sucks? Whatever you say…
You’re really not worth debating with, dude. Have a nice day.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:48 am
Saying Aso had even one single “garbage” season simply isn’t correct. He is a great player, better than most DB’s in the NFL for sure. He is probably more valuable to a team like Baltimore, the Jets, or the Eagles than he is to us.. but hey, that’s just my opinion.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:49 am
Sorry aquaman. I have NO idea wtf you just said.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:50 am
Most all DB’s have terrible hands. Seeing blatant dropped INT’s is a weekly occurence in the league.
CJ37 has pretty good hands though, usually if he gets his hands on it, he catches it.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:50 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:49 am
Sorry aquaman. I have NO idea wtf you just said.
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lmao
Schit, I thought I was the only one
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:51 am
Nnamdi would probably make that Baltimore defense ridiculous. Gotta wonder if they have enough money to sign him… or if Nnamdi would take a pay cut to make a possible championship run.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:52 am
I know we all hate D. Hall, but I got to say he has got to have the best hands as a CB.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
Deangelo and Champ, best hands in the game for DB’s today (C-Wood close but not quite).
Best all-time was Prime Time though. That guy made catches as a DB that DHB couldn’t do in his dreams.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:55 am
Opposing qbs got scared because Nnamdi closed out the (2008?) season with 8 ints in 8 games. He is far and away the best man to man bump and run cover CB in the NFL. You simply will never burn Nnamdi, but he has difficulty running zones (as our whole secondary does, coaching is most likely the issue) and he doesnt break off his man to make plays, no risk, but no reward. I wouldnt be surprised at all for Nnamdi to go somewhere else and simply be average though, however I do NOT think that will be the case. He will simply be ignored where ever he ends up.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
ok ,al davis has always paid top dollar to the people he wants.with a cap limit you just cant go out buy everyone .with no cba in place ,not knowing where the cap will be its money better spent on the whole of the team vs one player.
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:59 am
I put Asante Samuels up in that hands for a DB category, he is very similar to DHall, takes a lot of risks, and gets beat a lot, but makes a lot of plays too. Ed Reed has the best hands of any DB though.
I wouldnt want to through the ball against Baltimore with Dominique Foxworth, Nnamdi, Washington, Carr, Reed…
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:59 am
Nnamdi’s value is that he can be left on an island, so your strong safety can be more aggressive in the running game and your free safety can shift his coverage to the other side.
Would be very surprised if a traditional “Tampa 2″ team makes a run at him. Whatever team gets him is going to take advantage of his ridiculous man coverage skills… unless that team is in the business of throwing insane money at top-rated players without having the slightest idea of how they fit in.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
The Panthers will reportedly apply the franchise tag to C Ryan Kalil.
Source: Darin Gantt on Twitter
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
If a salary cap is part of the new CBA, then it will start for the 2012 season. They arent going to slap a salary cap on teams that are already making financial decisions. The owners will never allow it. Salary caps are soft anyways, there is always a way around it.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Would be very surprised if a traditional “Tampa 2″ team makes a run at him. Whatever team gets him is going to take advantage of his ridiculous man coverage skills…
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Tampa 2 is pretty much dead. Whos left that really runs it? Indy? You are right though, the team that goes after Nnamdi will HAVE to spend more than 50% of their defensive snaps in man coverage, or be willing to take a huge gamble that they can coach area21 into being a zone guy.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
The Panthers will have their hands full trying to bring other free agents like Johnson, Davis, possibly Smith and Williams back into the fold.
The Raiders might want to take a look at CB Richard Marshall.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Tampa 2 is pretty much dead. Whos left that really runs it? Indy? You are right though, the team that goes after Nnamdi will HAVE to spend more than 50% of their defensive snaps in man coverage, or be willing to take a huge gamble that they can coach area21 into being a zone guy.
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The Bears run it, but that’s why their defense struggles against elite offenses. That, and the fact that the key ingredient in the Tampa 2 is the linebackers, and all their linebackers are either againg (Briggs, Urlacher) or not that good (Hillenmeyer, Tinoisamoa).
Living in Chicago, I see a lot of Bears games. They have to be one of the most overrated defenses in the league. Which is sad for a team that prides themselves on their defense.
A bunch of teams run variations of the Tampa 2, but the ones who do it well change it up a lot and are very good at pressuring the QB.
The Saints were good at it during their SuperBowl run, but as teams started figuring it out, they started using more man-coverage on the outside, doing a fair amount of DT stunts and zone blitzes, and utilized a single-high FS so the SS could help more in run support.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Thats what I mean, Chicago and Indy are the only 2 teams left that primarily run a Tampa 2 as a system, I know a lot of teams will incorporate Tampa 2 into some of their looks,an example is NE who does it very well.
Chicago’s defense is still VERY good against the run. If you can take the run away, and put pressure on the QB (peppers and idonaje are great at this) then you can be successful.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:16 pm
At present, the only other tight ends on the Oakland roster are Brandon Myers and Kevin Brock
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Zach Miller is a MUST HAVE!
…despite Jhill & JFB harping on his blocking ability
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
The Panthers franchising Kalil is good for us, as D Williams just pushed Bush further down the list of potential FA running backs. He isnt going anywhere.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Peppers actually had a very underrated season. He didn’t get to the QB as much as some people probably expected, but the dude was blowing up plays left and right.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
I think a bunch of RB’s will be released this offseason …
most teams are going to a 2 back rotation and nobody has 2 RB’s over 28 years old
Mike Bush will not headline the group of RB FA’s and besides, he’s a RESTRICTED free agent that Davis & Jackson both talked up. I gotta think he stays, even if we have to match another offer he gets as a RFA
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
back to the grind.
CYA gents!
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:24 pm
i like nomdi seems like a good guy and all ,above average player at his position,but it is easy to look the other way when facing us ,when you can have your way with the rest of the defense like in the last few years. with poor run defense sub par line backer play,green safties,other teams dont need to test nomdi.even after greatly improving across the board last year he still wasnt tested.as the rest of the defense gets better his numbers should get a lot better.when we get good enough to force the other team to do what we want he’ll get his int’s
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Whatever team gets him is going to take advantage of his ridiculous man coverage skills… unless that team is in the business of throwing insane money at top-rated players without having the slightest idea of how they fit in.
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Nnamdi, meet Dan Snyder
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:27 pm
I know this is off-subject but the Raiders could use this kid for center:
Jake Kirkpatrick
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1689720
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:28 pm
…despite Jhill & JFB harping on his blocking ability
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Well if you don’t want to harp on his blocking inabilities, you can’t just rail on the O-line anytime Miller gets shoved into the backfield on a run-play, and wiffs on a blitzing safety in pass-protection.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Nnamdi, meet Dan Snyder
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My thoughts exactly.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
87.Just Fire Baby Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 11:54 am
Deangelo and Champ, best hands in the game for DB’s today (C-Wood close but not quite).
Best all-time was Prime Time though. That guy made catches as a DB that DHB couldn’t do in his dreams.
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I would add Eric Allen just behind Prime Time, with Rod Woodson a close second…
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Miller is a terrible blocker. He is a receiving TE. We can put Barnes in at TE if we want someone to block though.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I am all for drafting as many TCU players as possible.
Kirkpatrick in 4th, Jeremy Kerley in the 5th, maybe Andy Dalton if need be, and I’m sure they have some quality defensive players.
Gary Patterson, TCU’s coach, teaches his kids the nuances of the game better than any other collegiate coach, IMO. That’s why they can compete with the big boys without any 5 or even 4 star recruits.
Those guys know how to win, and how to do their job, and they almost always are level-headed dudes.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
I would rather see Aso stay, for sure, BUT, as in the great Robert Barker only if “The Price Is Right”
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
109.bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Miller is a terrible blocker. He is a receiving TE. We can put Barnes in at TE if we want someone to block though.
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Seriously? You think he is a “terrible” blocker? How so? Please explain…
He is a great pass catching TE, and good run blocker (he has to overcompensate for a bad O-Line)…. Many people (outside of the Raiders) like to compare him to Todd Heap. However, compare Todd Heaps O-Line to Zach’s O line…
ANY good blocking tight end is SIMPLY A PRODUCT OF THEIR O-LINE.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Jake Kirkpatrick
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1689720
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This guy could be a nice pick up in the 5th round. I dont think he will be much of an upgrade from Satele right away though. Pass blocking being his weakness is a concern.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
ANY good blocking tight end is SIMPLY A PRODUCT OF THEIR O-LINE.
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Watch the film dude. Miller gets run over all the time, that has nothing to do with his oline, because we have one of the best run blocking olines around. Our oline struggles in pass protection, Miller doesnt do any pass protection because he is running routes.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
114.bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
ANY good blocking tight end is SIMPLY A PRODUCT OF THEIR O-LINE.
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Watch the film dude. Miller gets run over all the time, that has nothing to do with his oline, because we have one of the best run blocking olines around. Our oline struggles in pass protection, Miller doesnt do any pass protection because he is running routes.
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LMFAO. Whatever man. Agree to disagree. You simply don’t know what you are talking about.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Vegas, I’ll jump on that bandwagon with you on TCU!!
Your absolutely right!
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:43 pm
bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Watch the film dude. Miller gets run over all the time, that has nothing to do with his oline, because we have one of the best run blocking olines around ………..
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Obvious contradiction.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
LMFAO. Whatever man. Agree to disagree. You simply don’t know what you are talking about.
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How can we agree to disagree, and have you finish by saying I dont know what I am talking about. Thats like calling a truce and then kicking me in the nuts as you walk away.
I know what I see. I see Zack Miller getting run over by edge rushers a lot. Brandon Meyers is a better blocker than Miller.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:45 pm
So we DONT have one of the best run blocking olines around? Is that what you are telling me?
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:51 am
YoungAmer told me just the other day I was the ONLY one that didn’t think #21 walks on water.
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Nobody said Nnamdi walks on water. Stop putting words into peoples’ mouths.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
After watching some more tape of C/OG Mike Pouncey….
I am convinced that he is pretty much the only player the Raiders should try and trade up for to get if they can in the 1st Round.
He would be a great fit and pick for the Raiders to be the Center!
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Kirkpatrick would be a good pickin Round 3 or 4.
The O-Tackle from TCU is also good.
February 22nd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
He would be a great fit and pick for the Raiders to be the Center!
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I watched his first game at center which was a disaster, but i didnt see him play the rest of the year, but I just think (especially if a rookie wage scale is in place and higher picks become more valuable) it will be too expensive to trade into the first round. It cost Denver 3 picks (2nd 3rd and 4th rounders traded to baltimore for their 1st) to get back into the first round last year.
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Watch the Jax game as an example of Miller’s blocking prowess.
He gets run over by a Safety in the first half, and gives up a sack (the guy’s 1st career sack).
Than later in the game, completely wiffs on someone in the open-field, and reaches out and grabs him and gets called for a hold, while D-Mac scored on the play. Cost us 4 points, and potentially the game.
Zack Miller’s blocking damn-near cost us the most important game of the season!!!
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Zack Miller = Justin Fargas ????
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
Damn! Just watched the Raven Sorvino video. This chick is fine AND she can rap! No better combo!
February 22nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
For the love of all things good in this world..
Can someone PLEASE pry Tim Hassleback’s lips from Kim Newton’s nutsack…
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Saints cut Jeremy Shockey.—per, Jay Glazer…
Plan B if Miller gets away? Yes he’s lost a step, but he can still catch the ball and block….
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
How about picking up Jeremy Shockey….he’s available!
The New Orleans Saints are cutting ties with tight end Jeremy Shockey.
Jay Glazer of FOX Sports first reported that the Saints are terminating Shockey’s contract.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:08 pm
909, one step ahead of me…..my bad!
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Let’s just hope Miller is working on his blocking drills this offseason. With only 4 years in, he’ll be back as a RFA. Same with Mike Bush.
We need to franchise Mike Huff!
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:20 pm
Shockey? Meh. How many decades will it take for Raider fans to figure out that the Raiders never have or never will win by just picking up other team’s trash?
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:26 pm
I would take Z Miller of Shockey ANY day…
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:28 pm
Me too. As Madden said, the Raiders never won with outcasts. They won with core teams. The outcasts were just the dressing. And I also believe that was a shot across Al’s bow, just like Cable’s “we’re not losers”.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:29 pm
J Hill Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
We need to franchise Mike Huff!
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LOL, that was funny dude!! Thanks for the laugh, I needed that on a Tuesday that feels like a Monday.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
When the Raiders were good, it was before 1989 and Free Agency.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
136.KoolKell Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:31 pm
When the Raiders were good, it was before 1989 and Free Agency.
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Yes and no. They have picked up some great players via Free Agency in the past, that even became better in the Silver and Black…..
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Free Agency in the NFL started in 1989 with Plan B. It marked a new way of operation for NFL teams.
In the 22 Seasons since the implementation of Free Agency and the Modern Era, some teams have adjusted, some have not. The following is the number of winning seasons by team since 1989:
1 Pittsburgh 17
2 Philadelphia 15
3 Miami 14
4 Green Bay 14
5 New England 14
6 Minnesota 14
7 Indianapolis 14
8 Kansas City 13
9 Dallas 13
10 Denver 12
11 San Francisco 12
12 Tennessee 11
13 New York Giants 11
14 New York Jets 10
15 Buffalo 10
16 Tampa Bay 9
17 San Diego 9
18 Chicago 9
19 Seattle 8
20 Washington 8
21 Atlanta 8
22 New Orleans 8
23 Oakland 7
24 Detroit 6
25 St Louis 5
26 Cleveland 4
27 Arizona 3
28 Cincinnati 3
Jacksonville’s been in the NFL since 1995, 7 winning seasons
Carolina been in the NFL since 1995, 4 winning seasons
Baltimore’s been in the NFL since 1996, 8 winning seasons
Houston’s been in the NFL since 2002, 1 winning season.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:42 pm
Who didn’t see that one coming from a mile away??
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:43 pm
lol.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Flynn, since free agency the Raiders have had no Super Bowl victories (with only one humiliating appearance altogether). If I’m not mistaken, don’t the Raiders have a record below .500 since free agency, too? The post free agency era has pretty much been a fail for Al.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
I don’t know why Al’s supporters don’t just concede on the free agency point, because that’s honestly the most plausible, understandable theory for his failures. The theories only get worse from there.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm
141.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Flynn, since free agency the Raiders have had no Super Bowl victories (with only one humiliating appearance altogether). If I’m not mistaken, don’t the Raiders have a record below .500 since free agency, too? The post free agency era has pretty much been a fail for Al.
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Yes you are correct. I didn’t state my opinion very well. I meant to only address the free agency part in my commwents, the fact that the Raiders have picked up some good free agents, however, the winning season and record are indeed very inadequate.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Before Free Agency, and the Internet. You had to travel the highways, byways, trains & buses to find players. Ron Wolf did that.
Now we have a 81 years old who can’t even walk, doesn’t travel or even show up til mid-afternoon, playing at being a GM on the internet.
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Well, Kevin, the object is to win, not merely pick up good players via free agency, so I don’t see how that’s an effective argument for the Raiders’ handling of free agency. The object of acquiring a free agent is to win football games, ultimately a Super Bowl, is it not?
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:08 pm
145.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Well, Kevin, the object is to win, not merely pick up good players via free agency, so I don’t see how that’s an effective argument for the Raiders’ handling of free agency. The object of acquiring a free agent is to win football games, ultimately a Super Bowl, is it not?
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You are only partially correct. Yes, the object is to pick up FA’s and win the big one, for most owners that is. Where you have missed the boat is the object of Oaklands GM is to spend the most money to win the big one, not aquire the best FA’s, but to spend the most money. Big difference. If that were to translate to winning the big one, then we could use the FA argument. But since we can’t, we will use the big buck argument. I know that sounds crazy, but we’re talking Al here, so really, quite logical. Consider yourself schooled.
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:11 pm
145.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Well, Kevin, the object is to win, not merely pick up good players via free agency, so I don’t see how that’s an effective argument for the Raiders’ handling of free agency. The object of acquiring a free agent is to win football games, ultimately a Super Bowl, is it not?
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I agree, I am not arguing, or trying to make an argument. I merely thought KoolKell was addressing Free Agency in gerneral terms. It wasn’t until recently that I realized he was inferring to the deficiancies of the Raiders “since” free agency.
I was defending free agency, not the Raiders nor their record since free agency and 1989. I mis-interpreted KoolKells original post.
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
LOL. That’s 2. Let’s see if we can get a 3rd weird, senseless response to my point.
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Flynn,
Who would you use the franshise tag on?
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Javon Walker and Kevin Brown are the only standout bust FA pickups I can think of.
I think the whiffs in RD 1 of the draft has hurt more. Kicker in rd 1, Stinchcomb, Gallery, Buchanon, Russell, DHB, etc.
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Bailey just re-uped with Denver for 4 years.
I just don’t see anyone outbidding Al for Nnamdi. Who else are we paying that we can’t afford him?
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:47 pm
148.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:31 pm
LOL. That’s 2. Let’s see if we can get a 3rd weird, senseless response to my point.
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OK. Al does not go after FA’s as much anymore, even so if he does, it is almost low key. He is a maverik trader, aquirring players for draft round pick, and through the draft itself. Al has begun a new order of building a winning franchise, long term, slow and steady through the draft and trades, even giving up round picks. He is in it for the long haul now, after all we did go from 5-11 to 8-8 and really coulda been 10/11 wins if not for a hang-over and cold feet. His ex, the “we’re not losers anymore” guy got the ball rolling, just like Al had formulated, and now Al has put it all together for a run at the big one. He may take a late round QB cause he knows Campbell is not for the long haul, but we’ll wait and see how Farve the ex-packer/jet/viking is doing with his work on JC. But make no mistake, Al is building for the long haul, no more buy today/win today attitudes. Draft and build, meet the needs of the team. No more big names for big dollars like he used to do. Al has a good GM in place, and they are busy gettin’er done.
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:53 pm
“According to Peter King of SI.com, Auburn quarterback Cam Newton told him, “I see myself not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon.”
LMFAO….
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
3!
Just fold and admit it’s been one huge fail for Al since free agency.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
154.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 3:55 pm
3!
Just fold and admit it’s been one huge fail for Al since free agency.
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That is why Al is building with maverick trading and really good draft picks. He folded to the big buck/FA thing and now has decided to go long haul. I personally think his FA aquisitions have been not so stellar, but admit his draft picks have been good, as of late. He is building for the long haul, just wait and see. 81 years of football knowledge and you think he doesn’t realize this? C’mon man.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
I would “dare” say Rich Gannon was a good “free agent” pickup.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:05 pm
156.Kevin Flynn Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
I would “dare” say Rich Gannon was a good “free agent” pickup.
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Even a blind squirrell will find a nut, but we are not a team of free agents. Good draft picks, maverick trading and a good GM and Al is ready for the long haul.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Management of free agency is not just signing free agents, it’s retaining those great, maverick players Al likes to draft. He doesn’t know how to, and many of them wind up elsewhere around the league when we have cap room for them here.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Wimbley is an above average pass rusher…. And average at about everything else….. Hope he can have an encore season for us next year… He took over in that Donkey blow out
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
158.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Management of free agency is not just signing free agents, it’s retaining those great, maverick players Al likes to draft. He doesn’t know how to, and many of them wind up elsewhere around the league when we have cap room for them here.
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Such as? Other than Charles Woodson…
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
J hill what about deangelo hall, gibril Wilson, Larry brown, lamont jordan, and even Randy moss and there is a few more that I can’t remember
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:23 pm
1eyedpirate – Please include Desmond Howard and Raghib “Rocket” Ismail to that list as well
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
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February 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Looks like Waffles @ DC.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Flynn, I don’t have time to compile a list of every single good player Al allowed to get away via poor management of free agency in the past 20 years. So, I’m going to call your bluff instead by resting my case and letting independent readers of this blog decide for themselves. I think Al’s record since free agency says it all.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
165.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Flynn, I don’t have time to compile a list of every single good player Al allowed to get away via poor management of free agency in the past 20 years. So, I’m going to call your bluff instead by resting my case and letting independent readers of this blog decide for themselves. I think Al’s record since free agency says it all.
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Paint it as you will. I just don’t think you can answer it. So be it.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
You made the point RMR…
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Call my bluff, or your bluff?…. lol
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Give Al credit for pulling the trigger to draft McFadden and McClain…. Those are cornerstones in this franchise that alot of teams dream of having…. They both work very very hard and dominated in college big time…. Dmac is just plain fun to watch bursting thru the hole and his open field moved are down right nasty, his jukes and that stiff arm us like a joust… And don’t let him lower his shoulder the upper body strength is freakish…. This year he attacked the tackler almost every time…. Hands down our MVP, when he does good we are almost unstoppable…. As for McClain, he has showed versatility, had a sack and pick and did well against the run and has freakish power as well…. Next year he will show more domination if he can shoot gaps more frequently and not get sucked up by linemen like he did in the SF game when Gore broke the long 1
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Chirp…. Chirp…..Chirp….. nothing but crickets.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
RMR, Al is not perfect. Every owner of all major sports franchises has made boneheaded dumbass mistakes during the course of their tenures. But Al has remained true to his colors, and has begun a reload/rebuilding process that will put the Raiders in the forefront of the NFL for years to come. He is now looking at the long haul and has the pieces in place. Al has admitted he has made mistakes, can you say Russell?, and that is the first sign of corrective measures, to admit your mistakes and make sure you do not repeat them again. Long Haul Al, gettin’er done.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Wisniewski wants to play for the Raiders:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11053/1127051-143.stm
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:43 pm
distractions, distractions…
a billion people revolt against their surrounding autocrats (although all that will come of it is other dictators or theocrats), representative gov (if there ever was any) crumbles before the onslaught of selfish parameters in the homeland, the trouble with trifles is once again the movement hereabouts.
ye gads, have none of you learned anything in this life except to quibble/fiddle while Rome burns?
sheesh.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Flynn, nobody is going to compile a list of every single decent player Al let get away due to his mismanagement of free agency, and you know that. That’s your bluff. You can claim victory in this argument as loudly as you like. Al’s results since free agency are a lot louder.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Rickey Dudley….. Lol…. U guys remember him ? A Dudley alright….. Just going through all these busts, be it through free agency or draft just shows why we were subpar for so long…. Just down right fugly…. Al is in clean up mode
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
RMR, Al is not perfect.
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Oh, believe me, I never said he was.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
174.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:44 pm
Flynn, nobody is going to compile a list of every single decent player Al let get away due to his mismanagement of free agency, and you know that. That’s your bluff. You can claim victory in this argument as loudly as you like. Al’s results since free agency are a lot louder.
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I didn’t ask you to “complile a list of every single decent player Al et get away”…. Show me where I did? I said, “Such as”… which typically insinuates and example…. of which you couldn’t even provide. Just accept defeat based on your lack luster comments and assessment and move on…..
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Yeah, Lonetree, you’re so independent and enlightened. Just make sure you send the Raiders your first season tickets payment on time.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Fair enough, Kevin, I accept defeat. That being said, I’ll stand by my point. Al Davis has let several decent players go due to poor team management since the beginning of free agency. But you won your little argument. I’ll give you that.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
179.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:50 pm
Fair enough, Kevin, I accept defeat. That being said, I’ll stand by my point. Al Davis has let several decent players go due to poor team management since the beginning of free agency. But you won your little argument. I’ll give you that.
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Don’t be so darned defensive all of the time. Not at ONE single point in our conversation did I ever try to diminish your comment? I simply asked for an example based on your comment as a matter of interest, and asked for someone other than Charles Woodson as a matter of interest as I couldn’t come up with any off hand. You took this into a personal type converstation instead of keeping it civil. Not EVERYONE on this list is attacking you when asking you a question or asking you for an example of a statement you make.
Stess is a killer buddy….
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Kevin, Al Davis has let several decent players go since free agency due to poor management.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
I don’t blame Al on the Jamarcass pick cuz everyone from Kiper and every other draft expert had that pick as well… And so did I, I was impressed by his play against Notre Dame and his combine work outs…. Man o man were we wrong…. If he panned out to play to hid potential we would have been in the post season this last season… Instead we are where we were before we picked him and that is with a big ????? At the QB position…. I got Campbell to step his game up this year or his career as a starter will be in serious jeopardy
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
181.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Kevin, Al Davis has let several decent players go since free agency due to poor management.
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And again, I would ask you, “such as”? Other than Charles Woodson… Because off hand, I can’t think of any… Doesn’t mean there isn’t any… But, based on your comment, I was assuming you knew of some, and was asking for you to elaborate based on my interest.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Al Davis also made huge offers to Sean Payton and Ken Whisenhunt, but was rejected by both of them.
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
184.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Al Davis also made huge offers to Sean Payton and Ken Whisenhunt, but was rejected by both of them.
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Which, based on hindsight, was obviously good decisions made by both Payton and Whisenhung…
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Al Davis simply has not been able to manage the Raiders since free agency, and has let several good players go due to such mismanagement.
Al Davis also can not secure a real NFL coach anymore. He’s made generous offers to Steve Whisenhunt, Bobby Petrino, and Sean Peyton, who’ve all rejected him. Huge contracts, in all 3 cases.
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Al also said Lane Kiffin was better than Jon Gruden.
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:01 pm
So many teams around the league have capitalized on Al’s inability to grasp free agency, it’s not even funny.
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
# Kevin Flynn Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Whisenhung…
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Wow. Nothing wrong with complimenting another man where props are deserved, but that’s a bit obsessive.
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:07 pm
189.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
# Kevin Flynn Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Whisenhung…
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Wow. Nothing wrong with complimenting another man where props are deserved, but that’s a bit obsessive.
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lol…. The G is just below the T…. typo….
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
You mean you were a little too excited thinking about “whisenhung”, and missed a key? No problem. Although I don’t think Ken swings that way. Don’t want you to get your hopes up.
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
If this whole debate is about whether or not Nnamdi will stay in Oakland…thank Kevin Flynn, U really dont know what ur talking about.
1. you underate him as a player, if you think Charles Woodson is better than him (esp with him saying he would change to Saftey if Nnamdi came to Green Bay)
2.No one knows Nnamdi asking price, and yet everyones depicts him as a money driven person( which is the opposite)
3.Nnamdi owes Al more than people think, because he drafted him in the NFL and the guts to start him at CB, when he was a saftey in college. If he was drafted by other teams, he knows he may not be playing CB or even considered with such high regards
4. Al keeps the players he wants…AL will pay him 11-13mill a year and everyone will shut up
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
[...] for over a week, today the Raiders officially informed Kamerion Wimbley’s agent that they will exercise the $3.5-million buy back on his contract. All Wimbley did was record a team [...]
February 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Wisniewski wants to play for the Raiders:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11053/1127051-143.stm
Satele too small for our power scheme and Al would love to have a former players son on the squad same way he wanted Howies son. So what does he trade to move up to get him?
February 22nd, 2011 at 6:56 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Yeah, Lonetree, you’re so independent and enlightened. Just make sure you send the Raiders your first season tickets payment on time.
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noone is going to pay on time. Plus the date has come an gone for first payment.
Are u a season tix holder rmr?
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:15 pm
Mrs is NOT a season ticket holder! Someone would have to give him free tickets to the Niner games,then maybe my old buddy Mr would attend.Amazed youre still whining about the RAIDERS,I hoped that you may have changed,ok,I was wrong! After all,MR never saw the 8 and 8 record,wish I could have seen youre posts and had a good laugh! RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:17 pm
inonewordraider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 6:07 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Wisniewski wants to play for the Raiders:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11053/1127051-143.stm
Satele too small for our power scheme and Al would love to have a former players son on the squad same way he wanted Howies son. So what does he trade to move up to get him?
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Stefan is Steve Wisnewski’s nephew, not his son. With that being said I am sure Al would love to have him in the silver and black, especially when you consider that Steve is now an assistant offensive line coach for the Raiders. Stefan would be more than pleased to be working for his uncle!
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:19 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Al also said Lane Kiffin was better than Jon Gruden.
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He couldn’t have been more mistaken. Al definitely swung and missed on that one.
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:24 pm
Go and get Rap Is A Joke’s brand new CD called “All Jokes Aside” for free! You will thank me later
http://www.rapisajoke.com/free-album/
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:51 pm
18.bcz24 Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:09 am
To think, we only got Ford because of the Morrison trade. I think we get the good end of that one.
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In with Rolando McClain and Jacoby Ford, out with Kirk Morrison.
What’s not to like about that?
February 22nd, 2011 at 7:54 pm
What’s with the weird DC hire, today?
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:03 pm
Raiders’ Buyback Of Kamerion Wimbley’s Contract May Be Illegal
By Chuck Carroll February 22, 2011 – 10:30 pm
The Oakland Raiders plan to re-sign Kamerion Wimbley may hit a snag.
Just hours after the team exercised the $3.5 million buyback option on the linebacker’s contract it came to light the such a move would be illegal.
The salary appears to be in violation of the NFL’s “30 percent rule,” which prevents a player’s salary from rising more than 30 percent over the previous season.
Wimbley’s 2010 base salary was $2.115 million. As pointed out by Adam Caplan of FOX Sports, a 30 percent increase would max out his 2011 salary at $2.75 million.
If the buyback is found to be in violation of the rule Wimbley will become an unrestricted free agent on March 4 when the current CBA expires and the new league year begins.
February 22nd, 2011 at 8:04 pm
KK
Go get that free download of All Jokes Aside. I think you may like it.
Tower of Power released a new one today too, although I think it is just re-masters of old songs, nothing new…
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:18 pm
Anybody else interested in bringing in Shockey? I know he’s been hurt a ton, but we’ve hopefully got Zach Miller still around so he’d be more of a complementary guy that could be worked in strategically. Even more than his talent, which is immense when he’s healthy, is the fire and attitude he brings to an offense. I think we could use a guy with that kind of fight and fire. Grads and Louis Murphy are the only guys I can think of who bring any of that to the offense.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:51 pm
I say no to bringing in an aging and unproductive tight end (Jeremy Shockey) NO WAY! Better to keep the budding Pro-Bowler going into his 4th year.
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Solution to the Nnamdi contract issue.
Cut DHB and give Nnamdi his salary.
These 1st round busts are hurting this team!
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Nnamdi Asomugha gives up 0 TDs in all his starts…
The rest of this defense gives up close to 30TDS.
So how in the hell does the defense get better losing Asomugha for some 5th round draft pick or scrub free agent?
Al had to draft Buchanan, Routt, Washington, Asomugha AND sign deAngelo Hall to find a cornerback….and its looking like the only thing the Raiders will have to show for it is Routt….a guy that contributed a lot to the 30 TDs given up in the air.
Cut DHB, send Gallery packing an low ball Huff…that should be enough for Asomugha to stay.
Better that than replace him with a bunch of marginal players
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:19 pm
SnB Production Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Solution to the Nnamdi contract issue.
Cut DHB and give Nnamdi his salary.
These 1st round busts are hurting this team!
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I almost agree. But don’t cut DHB just ask for a pay cut
tell him his money goes to Nnamdi
take a hit for the team
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:22 pm
Would hate to see DHB go somewhere else an devolept in to a receiver
February 22nd, 2011 at 10:23 pm
Sorry for mispellIng
February 23rd, 2011 at 12:47 am
Steve Whisenhunt ? MR ?
February 23rd, 2011 at 1:14 am
A.M. crew rules, P.M. crew excretes excessive amounts of saliva.
February 23rd, 2011 at 1:15 am
DHB may benefit from Saunders and Schilens. Lets pray Schilens never gets hurt again over his 10 yr career…
February 23rd, 2011 at 5:39 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Again, nothing new…
Oh well, so…Big Rich and Kam are returning! Anyone else?
February 23rd, 2011 at 5:44 am
the only thing the Raiders will have to show for it is Routt….a guy that contributed a lot to the 30 TDs given up in the air.
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Routt gave up 4 TDs… and had the second most pass deflections in the NFL.
February 23rd, 2011 at 5:48 am
SnB Production Says:
February 22nd, 2011 at 9:52 pm
Solution to the Nnamdi contract issue.
Cut DHB and give Nnamdi his salary.
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From your keyboard to Al’s ears…I wish anyway.
February 23rd, 2011 at 5:53 am
I agree…there’s no need to cut DHB, nor will it happen! Al waited 3 years to realize Russell was a bust! At least DHB has good work ethic. Maybe the coaches should give DHB a copy of the movie, “Unneccessary Roughness” with Scott Bakula and SinBad. “The ball is my friend. The ball is my friend!”
February 23rd, 2011 at 6:04 am
If we lose Nnamdi, maybe Rod Woodson can get the pads on ala Reggie Dunlop!
February 23rd, 2011 at 6:17 am
GOOD DAY CARL WEATHERS,HWNRDR, NATION, WHAT WE NEED R THE HANSEN BRO’S ..
February 23rd, 2011 at 6:32 am
LMAO…Slap Shot! Classic Dirt Lot…
But that would be nice (and probably funny at the same time)!
February 23rd, 2011 at 6:54 am
Maybe the coaches should give DHB a copy of the movie, “Unneccessary Roughness” with Scott Bakula and SinBad. “The ball is my friend. The ball is my friend!”
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I was thinking more along the lines of the movie Little Giants…. maybe they can get Gradkowski to throw rolls of toilet paper at DHB until figures it out
February 23rd, 2011 at 6:57 am
LOL! I forgot about that one! But to have Sinbad in front of you saying, “Boy…me and you are going to paaaahhhhteee!” while he’s going to smash into you if you don’t catch that ball…well, who knows!
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:19 am
If we can get Kathy Ireland to replace SeaBass I might be happy though
“Welcome to Foot… Balls!”
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:21 am
And that crazy karate guy…”You must learn some respect!”
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:26 am
Kathy Ireland was hot as hell in that movie.
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:31 am
You know, I was starting to give Cam Newton the benefit of the doubt, after hating on him during the season.
Not anymore. In one sentence he likened himself to Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, and than in another he said he wants to be an icon and entertainer.
The guy is the epitome of the spoiled, pretty-boy QB, that teammates and fans hate.
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:38 am
Agent: Willie Colon unlikely to return to Steelers
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 23, 2011, 9:37 AM EST
When we looked at Pittsburgh’s free agent priorities a few weeks ago, we ranked Lamarr Woodley, Ike Taylor, and Willie Colon as the three key guys Pittsburgh had to worry about.
Woodley has been given the franchise tag in the meantime. Taylor may get the transition tag.
That leaves Colon, Ben Roethlisberger’s Milledgeville partner and stalwart right tackle, possibly left out in the cold. Colon’s agent told Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that there is “little chance” Colon will be back in Pittsburgh.
Presumably, Colon’s agent only said that because the Steelers have made it clear they won’t pay his client what he thinks he’s worth. Colon is coming off a torn Achilles tendon, but he will only be 28 years old entering next season. He has a lot of experience at tackle and could conceivably kick inside to guard.
As long as there is free agency, Colon’s agent knows his best deal isn’t likely to be with Pittsburgh.
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Go get ‘em Al!
Good Morning A.M. Crew!
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:40 am
top of the mornin nation,
nothing new on the news front, other than i read somewhere that wimbleys’ contract buy back is illegal..but we know mr davis will get it done so no problem there..
who is the d coordinator???
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 am
Has anyone seen the way Kathy looks now’n days?
What is she…about 50ish?
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:48 am
im sure Al will find an easy way to work around the 30% rule..
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:49 am
I’d still bang her…..
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:51 am
Morning Ray…I think Kathy Ireland is in her 40’s right?
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:02 am
r8eray Says:
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 am
Has anyone seen the way Kathy looks now’n days?
What is she…about 50ish?
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She will be 48 this year… and I would still throw it to her.
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:10 am
She was on dancing with the stars last year, I tuned in briefly and she was all covered up so I tuned away before she danced. I think I still have about 10 years worth of her calendars in a box somewhere.
Kathy Ireland > Cindy Crawford.
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:14 am
Also, didn’t Kathy Ireland so some B rated freaky sex movies in the late 80’s?
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:15 am
I would definitely pass the gravy to Kathy Ireland
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:20 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:14 am
Also, didn’t Kathy Ireland so some B rated freaky sex movies in the late 80’s?
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Shannon Tweed, B rated, soft-core porn queen!
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:24 am
Carl Weathers Says:
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:20 am
hwnrdr Says:
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:14 am
Also, didn’t Kathy Ireland so some B rated freaky sex movies in the late 80’s?
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Shannon Tweed, B rated, soft-core porn queen!
Ok you win! Funny that she married Gene Simmons huh?
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:28 am
Much as I love Miller, for him to be leading in receiving is more of an indication of how bad most of Raiders WR’s are.
Don’t get me wrong he’s been really good but last yr was not a good year for him.
Keep Ford. maybe Murphy. Draft another Ford and look at free agents but don’t overpay for cr@p.
There’s a different mindset now. You can feel it.
Sadly there was a time when some (bungholes) felt justified in not trying while in Oakland. No one will stand for that now. They would eat you alive in that locker room.
Wiz has got those lineman lifting right now.
Strong players wreak violence and havoc. Are less likely to succumb to injury.
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:38 am
I worry about the miles on Zack Miller.
First off, he was on some crappy ASU teams getting beat up a lot while catching a ton of passes.
Than the same thing his first few years here as well. Attempting to catch Jamarcus Russell passes is like dog years for a TE.
You started to see a little of the effects last year, with the concussion and other nagging injuries. HIs production also slipped in the midst of all this (his numbers didn’t drop as much, but he dropped more passes last year than maybe the previous 3 years combined and looked awful blocking at times as well).
Unfortunately for Zack, I don’t see him playing much football in his 30’s.
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:44 am
JFB,
Zack is still young and ya he missed some time last year, but if he is 100% come camp it won’t matter. There’s no denying Russell took a couple of years off his career though, prlck!
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:46 am
Morning peoples!
Whats the word mocking bird?
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:57 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:02 am
r8eray Says:
February 23rd, 2011 at 7:43 am
Has anyone seen the way Kathy looks now’n days?
What is she…about 50ish?
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She will be 48 this year… and I would still throw it to her.
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Kathy is cool, but I would still go w/ O.G. hottie Stacey Dash. (45 years old)
Holla!
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_b0PhsQuTVQk/S5feXe7NYfI/AAAAAAAAALc/SOrSbbZjOos/s512/stacey-dash-swallows.jpg
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:58 am
DMAC Says:
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:46 am
Morning peoples!
Whats the word mocking bird?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIha2_Dx2uM&feature=related
February 23rd, 2011 at 8:58 am
DMAC…..thats Hoops!
February 23rd, 2011 at 9:00 am
Or at least, kinda resembles her!
February 23rd, 2011 at 9:03 am
Here ya go DMAC:
http://rosaacosta.com/?attachment_id=27718
February 23rd, 2011 at 9:22 am
Carl,
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February 23rd, 2011 at 9:24 am
Damn Stacey Dash was 28 when clueless came out? I had no idea she was 45 but yeah she would definitely get it!
February 23rd, 2011 at 9:52 am
New Post!
February 24th, 2011 at 2:05 am
You guys are really trippin about Aso. People say that he is not a playmaker, then bring up Deangelo Hall? You saw him get ass-raped for eight games, make excuses and you see hilights of him in another city and all of a sudden he’s good? Aso shuts down his side averaging two passes per game (Primetime stuff), incidentally while (shutdown) Rivas gets thrown at over 100 times per year. So, because they throw to the other corner and they get beat you say get rid of the guy that does his job? No, get another shutdown corner, don’t give up the one you have!!!
February 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am
hello