Cartwright done, Henderson close
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, February 24th, 2011 at 4:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders’ flurry of activity before the end of the league year Thursday continued as they agreed to terms with special teams standout and backup running back Rock Cartwright and were nearing an agreement with defensive tackle John Henderson.
Cartwright’s signing was confirmed by a team source. He said on his Twitter page Wednesday he was returning to the Bay Area and to “re-sign with the silver and black. Henderson’s agreement was intitially reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter as a two-year, $4 million deal.
Correction to an earlier post _ the Raiders confirmed Kamerion Wimbley’s status as the franchise player, but have not confirmed the new riches bestowed upon cornerback Stanford Routt. The Raiders made note in their release about the buyback in Wimbley’s contract disallowed by the league.
However, an e-mail was sent out by Raiders public relations early in the day showing how Routt stacked up in terms of completion percentage in an ESPN blog which ran some time ago. No explanation, given, just under the heading of “FYI.”
If they choose, the Raiders could seek to fight the league ruling, but the moment Wimbley signs the tender, he is guaranteed the reported $10.1 million. And protesting the ruling would only serve to unnecessarily alienate Wimbley.
The best course of action for both parties is a longterm deal which Wimbley’s agent Joe Linta said has been in the works in recent days.
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February 24th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
So why doesn’t Routt’s contract violate the 30% rule?
February 24th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Remember when Cable gave Routt props of playing better because he was preparing like a Pro, and Routt told the press he had not changed a thing and was preparing like past years? Thats why Routt will never get to Nnamdi’s level.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
The Raiders set themselves backward today in one of the worst contract deals since Tommy Kelly and DHB.
Routt could be had for 1/3 what he’s getting. A guy that gave up 5TD passes…the point is to not overpay for guys.
Was Routt EVEN CLOSE to Pro-Bowl consideration? Was he the guy “to watch out for”? Is he at the Revis, Asomugha, Bailey, Woodson level….not even close
Routt is a decent #2 and NO MORE!
So now he’s a number 1? Give me a break. WHo the hell is the number 2?
Overpaid THAT MUCH for a guy who’s just a guy!
No new adds…same damn defense that got SCORCHED down the stretch and against any decent team! Give me abreak.
Philip Rivers, Matt Cassell and whoever QBs Denver is elated right now.
Routt and some UNKNOWN at the corners! A brand new FS!
HOpe the offense can score….cause this defense won’t be stopping anything
February 24th, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Kam Routt had a decent contract year, and Davis, faced with losing the better player, overpays the latter player.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Should have just overpaid the beast on the other side that shut things down and gave up ZERO TDS.
Another question for the intelligentsia.
If Nnamdi gave up 0 TDs and Routt is a $10MM beast and Huff had a renaissance….
WHO THE HELL GAVE UP THE OTHER 25TDS+?
Man!
Let’s go offense!
Still can’t stop the run either!
February 24th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Baffonery!
February 24th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
If we resign Huff, Bush, Gallery and Nnamdi (assuming they want to be here) then I don’t care if we overpaid Routt. But if it means not being able to retain Nnamdi because of it, what an idiotic decision
February 24th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Just bad General Managing right there. Even if Routt is a top 3 corner (he’s paid like one)…you could have just paid him a more modest $5MM (LOL) and had more than enough cash to actually IMPROVE this defense
February 24th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
$10MM a year? You’ve gotta be freekn kiddin me!
February 24th, 2011 at 4:24 pm
Just ridiculous no matter how you look at it.
So who’s the number 2….LOL
February 24th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Not really sure I would have franchised Wimbley either. He’s a decent player…but again, did he just take over games?
Al Davis spends way too much money.
I hope it doesn’t take Stanford Routt as long to play to his new contract than it did for Tommy Kelly!
February 24th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Wimbley is a tweener with pass rushing skills. For all the beef we added to the LB corps we still sucked against the run. The passrush improved though. Is Wimbley worth 10 mill? If he gets 10+ sacks per season, I guess he is.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Stanford Routt and Chris Johnson…or Walter McFadden.
Good Lawd
February 24th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Macho Man,
I am still trying to figure out how the team gets better letting the guy who gave up 0 pass TDs and locked down his side go….and replacing him with Walter McFadden/Chris Johnson?
Unless the scheme changes or there is more pressure up front…not buying it….math doesn’t work.
And if you are going to over pay by $7MM…..then give it to the guy getting things done.
I assure you that if Routt hit the free agency market…he would not have been the #1 target in free agency.
Somebody on that defensive staff better be working overtime…because last year ain’t cutting it!
February 24th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
A bit off subject, check out this 3 round mock draft by Scout.com:
http://profootball.scout.com/2/1046856.html
February 24th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Sure hoping Al finds a stud CB in the 6th round of this years draft. You know Al has his rabbit foot, 4 leaf clover and the stop watch to help him decide.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Owner/GM/DC, is too much for an 81 yr old invalid.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Routt sucks. Always has. The only thing he does with any consistency is give up huge touchdown plays. What a terrible move.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:31 pm
Hey, I thought Routt was the 3rd CB on the team. To give him 10 mill per is not very smart. but these are the raidehs, what you gonna do?
February 24th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
16.Macho Man Randy Savage Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Sure hoping Al finds a stud CB in the 6th round of this years draft. You know Al has his rabbit foot, 4 leaf clover and the stop watch to help him decide.
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The number of high round draft picks wasted to find the type of player like Asomugha…the free agent sigining of deAngelo Hall…and the Raiders end up overpaying by $7MM for Routt.
You can expect 3 of the next 4 high draft picks to be spent on CBs if history holds true
February 24th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
KK,
rather than continually pi$$ all over yourself here, why don’t you check out
http://msn.foxsports.com/
click on WRITERS
click on Jason Whitlock
click on WHITLOCK DISCUSSES STATE OF BLACK ATHLETE
a roundtable with Whitlock, Harry Edwards and Michael Irvin. It is well worth the time to view and consider.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
I remember the KC game in 2009 when Asomugha was shutting down Dwayne Bowe…Asomugha had to sit out a play and Routt then got scorched for some 40 yards down field……I still have visions of Tebow’s TD pass in the corner of the end zone…Walter McFadden getting torn down by CHAD HENNE
And don’t forget the Big Nickle defense against Jax.
Not looking good on defense….I see a lot of 31 – 28 type games next year
February 24th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
18.Just Win Baby Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:30 pm
Routt sucks. Always has. The only thing he does with any consistency is give up huge touchdown plays. What a terrible move.
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and long PI’s
February 24th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
The reason the Raiders suck at stopping the run has very little to do with personnel. It’s because a scheme that doesn’t emphasize gap discipline.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Routt is a PI specialist. Godspeed Rod Woodson, work that miracle.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
HAve done NOTHING to improve the run defense so far….so the Raiders still have that albatross around their collective necks~
If they simply re-signed Routt to $3MM I would be cool.
But to overpay him BY THAT MUCH is ridiculous.
Hell, if Routt wanted to walk…let him go and get someone else.
You don’t get better replacing guys like Asomugha with guys like Chris Johnson/Walter McFadden.
Probably going to have to find a FS too.
I would move Branch to FS and sign Sanders
February 24th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
24.YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
The reason the Raiders suck at stopping the run has very little to do with personnel. It’s because a scheme that doesn’t emphasize gap discipline.
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Well next year is going to be interesting because they can’t stop the run and will have two very average (being generous) CBs and a new FS.
Expect more Jax games
February 24th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Giving Routt that amount of money, when he would NOT have received it anywhere else is STUPIDITY!!
Jesus Ch**#t!
One step forward and two steps back….always with the old looney man Al!
He should be giving that money to Nnamdi and Huff….not some guy who gets burned and the refs love to call pass intereference penalties on!
Ugh.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Woodson stepped into a mess!
I don’t care about anything else but the fact that Davis WASTED all that money on Routt….
You could have done A LOT with the $7MM that could have been saved by using some common sense at the negotiating table.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
Branch has never been a FS. Doesn’t have the skills to be a FS. That would be disastrous.
Jarrad Page, Dashon Goldson, and OJ Atogwe are all free agents. Sands and Gilchrest will be available in the draft. Any of those would be better options than moving Branch or Mitchell to FS.
If Huff walks, the Raiders need to bring someone in to compete with Stevie Brown. Preferably a veteran.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:41 pm
YoungAmerican,
The real answer unfortunately is going to be the offense putting up a ton of points.
You can’t fix this mess
February 24th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Man, if Al paid 10 mill for Routt, what in the hell is he going to pay Gallery? Routt is a 2nd round pick, Gallery is a 2nd overall pick, Gallery might just get Peyton Manning money! LOL, you know he could.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
man, reading posts in here, with all of the fretting and hand-wringing and aspersions cast about players and contracts (ain’t your dollars) is like being surrounded by a bunch of black-shawled old widows who have nothing left but to uber-piously denegrate everything around them in an effort to seem holier-than-thou-art and drag everyone else down into the treacherous hole those gals are in.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Owner/GM/DC is too much for any 81 year old invalid.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Al Davis get’s played over and over and over………….
February 24th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
C’mon M Lonetree, last year’s offseason gave us hope, last year’s play gave us hope. You know the Routt signing is ridiculous.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
He gives Stan Routt 10 mill per, and won’t even pay a quality Defensive Coordinator.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Stanford Route shouldn’t even be making 2nd string nickleback cash. Could you imagine the Patriots paying a loser like him $15 mil a year? Hell, do they even pay Brady that much? Pathetic…
February 24th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
That all sounds about right. Champ Bailey making $15 milly, Nnamdi will make close to $20 mil; paying rout $10 mill a year is right. That article that Bill Williamson wrote “no burn zone in Oakland” talked a lot about how Chris Johnson and Stanford Routt are some of the best Cb’s in the league when it comes to their man’s completion %…
February 24th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I am all for guys getting paid, but you gotta have enough to sign new guys to make us better! Routt and Wimby just hit the Super Lotto!
February 24th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Rock, John Henderson, Seymour, wimberly, Stanford Routt, all locked in.
Raiders need to secure Langston Walker, Samson Satele, Miller, and Bush and the Raiders will have done a solid job in bringing back their own guys. Huff, Nnamdi, and Gallery probably won’t be worth the price tag they ask.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
What the word on bob Sanders… I would pay Bob Sanders huff’s $ for the 8 games he usually plays. He is injury prone, but he is a difference maker when healthy.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Can we re-sign Javon Walker?????
February 24th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
What’s the franchise # for a CB?
February 24th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
The draft is going to decide how this season goes, because I can’t see the Raiders making any major upgrades through free agency.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Macho man,
I have no answer as to why athletes are paid more than elementary school teachers, and the leeches of society – politicians, lawyers and consultants are paid or extort king’s ransoms for their time, except that the systems involved are crooked.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
I’m not surprised at all. 10 million is not top CB $. 20 million guaranteed over 3 year isn’t some record setting deal at all.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
I had read that Routt would be coveted in Free Agency because he held up under fire on the opposite side of Nnamdi. Wimberly had 9 sacks this past season. The ability to get to the QB makes him a hot commodity. The Raiders watched as Chris Clemmons make an impact for Seattle this year, and I bet they felt that Wimberly is a much beter & diverse player than Clemmons.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
The draft is going to decide how this season goes, because I can’t see the Raiders making any major upgrades through free agency.
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Hue Jackson, Campbell, Bush/DMac are going to decide.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Al Davis believes Super Bowl talent is already on the roster. That’s why he’s formally taking over at DC, to hogg the limelight.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
10 mill per year is chump-change for a CB, really?
February 24th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
The Raiders have been in the business of overpaying players recently, and haven’t stopped at Richard Seymour and Stanford Routt.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that the team has re-signed defensive tackle John Henderson to a two-year, $8 million contract.
The financial commitment doesn’t seem like much, but it’s probably more than Henderson would’ve gotten on the open market. The declining, 10-year veteran didn’t record a sack last season and missed seven games with stress fracture in his foot. Henderson collected $1 million in 2010.
Owner Al Davis, somehow, found Henderson’s performance worthy of a raise.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/24/another-raiders-re-signing-big-john-henderson/
February 24th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
34.KoolKell Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
Owner/GM/DC is too much for any 81 year old invalid.
^^^^^^
True.
Paying Routt that amount of money of just plain stupid and lame.
Another waste of money, like D Hall and J Walker.
Dammit!
February 24th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
52.KoolKell Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
The Raiders have been in the business of overpaying players recently, and haven’t stopped at Richard Seymour and Stanford Routt.
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that the team has re-signed defensive tackle John Henderson to a two-year, $8 million contract.
The financial commitment doesn’t seem like much, but it’s probably more than Henderson would’ve gotten on the open market. The declining, 10-year veteran didn’t record a sack last season and missed seven games with stress fracture in his foot. Henderson collected $1 million in 2010.
Owner Al Davis, somehow, found Henderson’s performance worthy of a raise.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/24/another-raiders-re-signing-big-john-henderson/
^^^^^^^
Yeah…I like Big John…but not for that much money.
Sheesh.
What the hell is this old man doing?!?
February 24th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Routt was given a 1st a 3rd round RFA tender last year. That was the basically a franchise tag. To give him 7 million a year guarnteed is nothing to cry about. If he reaches the incentives and bumps it up to 10 million a year, than can only be good for us.
7 million a year is nothing.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
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February 24th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Bye bye area 21 we will miss you.
I think peopel are too hard on routt though. yes he gave up 5 td, but he was targeted 99 times. For camparison Revis gave up 4 tds in 56 passes
February 24th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
41.dickv Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Rock, John Henderson, Seymour, wimberly, Stanford Routt, all locked in.
Raiders need to secure Langston Walker, Samson Satele, Miller, and Bush and the Raiders will have done a solid job in bringing back their own guys. Huff, Nnamdi, and Gallery probably won’t be worth the price tag they ask.
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Oh no!
We don’t need old man Al signing Langston Walker for a 3 year 24 million deal next? That would be 8 mill a year? Lol…
Hell no!
February 24th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
I think john henderson signing is also really good. he was hurt last year but when he was on the field he made a solid impact.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
55.J Hill Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Routt was given a 1st a 3rd round RFA tender last year. That was the basically a franchise tag. To give him 7 million a year guarnteed is nothing to cry about. If he reaches the incentives and bumps it up to 10 million a year, than can only be good for us.
7 million a year is nothing.
^^^^^^^^
Sorry…rather see that that money on Satele, Huff or even Nnamdi!
February 24th, 2011 at 5:15 pm
Henderson will get one year of that $, and you’re not thinking straight if you think games played is not a part of the contract.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
I’m looking forward to reading that Huff was resigned.
Would be really surprised to see Nnamdi and Satele back.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
How deep are uncle al’s pockets? is he still going to sign namdi, miller and bush? Dont be shocked if it happens
February 24th, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Hue Jackson, Campbell, Bush/DMac are going to decide.
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That core alone will get us 8-9 wins if they perform like they did last season. And that’s assuming the Raiders stand pat on the offensive line and on defense. To beat elite teams? The Raiders need to improve the weaker areas of the team measurably.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
I think coach davis is counting on an uncapped year….
February 24th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Miller and Bush will get contracts. It remains to be seen how much money will be left to upgrade other areas of the team.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
If we dont trade up to the first round then davis will have that first round money to spend. Area 21 maybe?
February 24th, 2011 at 5:25 pm
10 mill a yr is alot for routt and i think everyone can agree. but my question is if he was worth that kinda of money, then having a 10mill dollor cb on one side and PB nnamdi on the other would be the best cb tandem… If al loses Nnamdi, which against popular belief, I think he still stays. this will set the Raiders back another 3-4 yrs
February 24th, 2011 at 5:27 pm
if the GM position is too overwhelming for an 81 year old man, it apparently must be for all of the 30, 40, 50-something ones as well. Otherwise the Jets and the Jags and the Browns and the Bengals and the Lions and the Bears and the Chargers and the Chiefs and the Broncos and the Redskins and the Cowboys and the Eagles and the Dolphins and the Vikings and the Whiners and the Cardinals and the Seahawks and the Texans and the Titans and the Bills and the Falcons and the Panthers all would’ve been Super Bowl winners in the past decade or so.
NOT.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
So let me get this straight. Taking nnamdi’s 15 million per and using it on three players instead… nets us Routt, Henderson, and Wimbley? And it actually costs is more than 15 million. Yikes.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:29 pm
Our secondary will be as good as our pass rush. Nnamdi or no Nnamdi.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Nnamdi, “I now demand 10% ownership of the Raiders!”
Al, you paid Stanford, How much?!
February 24th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
Bruce Campbell, freed from Cable’s jealousy (Cable is enamored of scrubs, can’t stand talent) will emerge as a force.
It is all in the dynamics.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
The thing is Davis & the Raiders have been down right terrible since he turned 70.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:36 pm
Topsy u suck azz
February 24th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Since Al was 70?
We weren’t terrible last year.
And didn’t we have a good 3 or 4 year run under Gruden since Al was 70?
February 24th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Wimbley & Routt are young and their best years are ahead of them. Seymour has production and leadership, something we haven’t had on defense for a long time, well worth the money.
The Henderson deal is a head scratcher, we could have got him cheaper if we waited a while.
Just need to resign Huff & go after Johnathan Joseph and D is set. The big money of to retain our free agents on the D.
Need to sign Miller on the offense to a deal asap and the draft will address the O line, RT, C and LG.
Continuity on defense will give big results and bigger and younger on the O line.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
73. Campbell may not even start next season. Very little football experience and none at guard till last season.
Could be a diamond in the rough or nothing at all.
Watchning the little regular season game time he got, he looked good on two plays, torched on the 3rd. Thats to be expected but on pulls and traps?
Could be exciting.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Paul Brown Vs Al Davis, HOF Octogenarians.
Paul Brown died as President of the Cincinnati Bengals at the age of 83 in 1991. His last 7 years:
91′ 3-13
90′ 9-7
89′ 8-8
88′ 12-4
87′ 4-11
86′ 10-6
85′ 7-9
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53-58
Al Davis at age 81, Large and in Charge.
09′ 5-11
08′ 5-11
07′ 4-12
06′ 2-14
05′ 4-12
04′ 5-11
03′ 4-12
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29-93
February 24th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Routt and to a lesser extent Wimbley seem to only play when they want to or when money is on the line.
It’ll be interesting to see if Routt reverts back to slack now that he’s been paid.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
However, an e-mail was sent out by Raiders public relations early in the day showing how Routt stacked up in terms of completion percentage in an ESPN blog which ran some time ago. No explanation, given, just under the heading of “FYI.”
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Awesome.
Al Davis the propagandist
February 24th, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Al Davis the propagandist
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That’s his thing. Football……..not so good.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Franchise # for CBs is going to be 14 million this year. That’s the avg of the to 5 guys. Routt was given TWENTY million guaranteed over 3 years NOT 30 million.
7 million a year for a CB who had numbers rivaling Revis isn’t a good deal?
Wow!
February 24th, 2011 at 5:50 pm
J Hill I like Routt and all, but Revis played hurt and the Raider’s pass rush was actually better than the Jet’s pass rush this season.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
According to a league source, the following numbers are in line with what the NFLPA expects franchise tags to equate to in 2011, assuming they are upheld in the next CBA:
Quarterbacks: $16 million ($16.4 million in 2010)
Running backs: $9.5 million ($8.15 million in 2010)
Wide receivers: $11.3 million ($9.5 million in 2010)
Tight ends: $7.3 million ($5.9 million in 2010)
Offensive linemen: $10.1 million ($10.7 million in 2010)
Defensive ends: $12.9 million ($12.4 million in 2010)
Defensive tackles: $12.5 million ($7 million in 2010)
Linebackers: $10 million ($9.7 million in 2010)
Cornerbacks: $14 million ($9.6 million in 2010)
Safeties: $8.8 million ($6.5 million in 2010)
Kickers: $3.1 million ($2.8 million in 2010)
February 24th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
It’s 30 million over 3, with 20 guaranteed, ok?
A longtime Al Davis favorite because of his 4.3 wheels, Routt was a priority with the Raiders set to lose Nnamdi Asomugha to free agency. Turning 28 this July, Routt was overpaid at just over $3M last season, so the Raiders wouldn’t be smart to exceed that number on an annual basis. They almost certainly will, though. Routt has two interceptions in his last 47 games (20 starts).
February 24th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
It’s 30 million over 3, with 20 guaranteed, ok?
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Right, 20 million guaranteed over 3 year.
That’s what I said.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
According to the NFL.com, the Oakland Raiders agreed to terms with Stanford Routt on a three-year contract.
Routt, a six-year pro, will reportedly earn $31.5 million during the length of his deal, including $20 million over the first two years.
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That’s not 7 million per year, so quit your damned lying.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:57 pm
ANALYSIS
Plain and simple; Routt was given starter money and is likely expected to take on a bigger role in the Raiders’ secondary. Champ Bailey, who recently re-signed with the Denver Broncos, will average roughly $11 million per campaign. Oakland vastly overpaid for an inconsistent player who looks good in uniform, has all the vitals you want in a talent, but does not perform and has not played like a cornerback about to earn $20 million the next two years.
This move also spells the end of Nnamdi Asomugha’s tenure with Oakland. The Raiders can’t expect to fork over adequate compensation to the All Pro corner after making it rain on Routt and surely not after setting the bar with Asomugha’s last deal. And even if Asomugha wants to stay and agrees to a hometown discount, how much money will it take to lock up two defensive backs with their other key free agents still foundering and the club needing to upgrade certain other spots of their roster?
Routt’s contract will only be justified if he plays Pro Bowl caliber football through 16-games. That’s a huge question mark, and if his contract is a main reason why Asomugha heads elsewhere, that will be a tough pill to swallow for Raider fans.
Contact Author: Victor Cotto – SB Report Columnist
February 24th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
It’s 30 million over 3, with 20 guaranteed, ok?
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LMFAO!
I agreed with you, and you go on a posting tantrum.
I agree that it is 20 mill guaranteed over 3 years like YOU SAID.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
If Routt somehow ends up with the 30 million instead of just the 20, that means he balled his arsse off and hit the incentives.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Haters gotta hate.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Because Routt makes plays unlike #21.
If Routt is worth 10mil #21 is worth 9.75.
The end.
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# YoungAmerican Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
So why doesn’t Routt’s contract violate the 30% rule?
February 24th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
KK, you down with gay marriage like pres bozo the clown 0baam@ ?
February 24th, 2011 at 6:04 pm
I often hear people complaining that Nnamdi didn’t cover the other teams #1. Uh, well does that mean Routt got that assignment more often than not? And put up #’s like that?
Don’t get the Routt hate. The guy is a solid player.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
J Hill Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
If Routt somehow ends up with the 30 million instead of just the 20, that means he balled his arsse off and hit the incentives.
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No that means he guaranteed 20 million if he’s any good or not the next 2 years, with some kind of 3 year option. Which sounds like another 10 million.
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I can’t tell if you’re dumb of just disingenuous.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Kell,
You don’t know what the details of his contract are. Was there a signing bonus? If so that is spread out over the legnth of his contract. What is his base per year?
You have NO clue, lol.
Bottom line, like YOU said, he is guaranteed 20 million in a 3 year contract. If he gets a lumps sum 20 million tomorrow, and nothing the next 3 years, who effin cares?
20 million guaranteed, we agree, what’s the problem?
February 24th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Well all of our front 7 is in tact from last year.
Wimbley and Trevor Scott will be our pass rush. Groves should be much better year 2 at LB, as should McClain.
Just bring back Mr Huff and our defense should be just fine. Should see some more blitzes and pressures from our LBs with Breshnahan back in the mix.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
I’m looking forward to seeing Ware and McFadden next year. I think our secondary is going to be just fine.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
J Hill Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Should see some more blitzes and pressures from our LBs with Breshnahan back in the mix.
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??????? I got it, it’s the former.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Im liking the way your thinking J Hill. I agree with Mista too though. You wouldn’t know Nhamdi was even on the team if you look at impact plays.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
The numbers don’t lie ,routt was #3 in the nfl in completion percentage behind revis and aso.He had a lot more balls thrown at him than they did so to stand up to that in his 1st year as starter was pretty good.We need to look at what he did and not compare him to Nnamdi because that would make anyone look bad outside of revis.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
If Nhamdi was targeted 39 times, isn’t thst enough to make just 1 play of significance. I mean he only had to touch the field for 16 games and he would have had his 17mil. 1 interception ???? Just one????
February 24th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
He had 16 tackles….yes, thats a grand total of 1 per game….i for one hope he is gone for good….
February 24th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Kell,
You’re bitter towards Al. He let you down in some way. We get it.
Makes it hard for you to keep up and understand what’s going on.
Good luck with that.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
KK, I’ll take your silence as a yes, thanks for making it clear you are for gay marriage & gays in the military.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Oh no, #21 doesn’t have to make any plays not even make a tackle on running downs. He is a nice guy and talks real soft and nice like a girl so Raider Nation luvs him to death.
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# Raider E Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
If Nhamdi was targeted 39 times, isn’t thst enough to make just 1 play of significance. I mean he only had to touch the field for 16 games and he would have had his 17mil. 1 interception ???? Just one????
February 24th, 2011 at 6:43 pm
The first bit of common I’ve seen from you in 2 years Jill, nice job.
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# J Hill Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
I’m looking forward to seeing Ware and McFadden next year. I think our secondary is going to be just fine.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
I think this blog needs a fresh dose of reality…
The Raiders are not the Patriots. What I mean by that is unlike the Patriots, Al is trying to win without regards to how he achieves that goal. The Patriots management wants to win, but they also want to do it by getting the best value for their money spent (see Richard Seymour and currently Logan Mankins). They want to win, but they want to win the Patriot way.
The point is that money apparently has no meaning to Al at this point in his life. It is only a means to an end, nothing else. Do you really think a man who knows that he could die at basically any time cares whether or not he overpaid by 10-15% to keep players around so that he can get one last shot to win it?
Stop being upset that your team isn’t “winning” the offseason by paying free agents at market value or below. If you were expecting anything different than you will probably be disappointed when you see the next contract he doles out.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Close to resigning Henderson?
Maybe the new DC can put him on the field a few more snaps a game. We might be mixing in some 3/4 next year hence Henderson coming back. Im sure AL will let the new DC what time it is after he signs on the dotted line.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:49 pm
The Kool-Aide is flowing up in here! Flowing like it did when my friends and I finished playing ball in the backyard on a hot summer day…….
Stanford Routt is not a $10 million per year player…incentives or not.
Sure, the only non-kicking pro-bowler on the team…and they get better by swapping him out for Walter McFadden?
By the way…who gave up those 30 pass TDs last year?
Defense got worst today….Lose Nnamdi and the team is now somehow better….couldn’t stop Chad Henne or Gerrard……
Pour me another glass
February 24th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
103.Raider E Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 6:32 pm
If Nhamdi was targeted 39 times, isn’t thst enough to make just 1 play of significance. I mean he only had to touch the field for 16 games and he would have had his 17mil. 1 interception ???? Just one????
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Rarely if ever thrown at because he did his job….shut down an entire side of the field…neutralized the best receiver on the other team when covering…
Instead of asking about Nnamdi…how about this question..
How come the other TEN defenders gave up 30 pass TDs and couldn’t stop the run?
Woops……
February 24th, 2011 at 6:57 pm
104.Raider E Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
He had 16 tackles….yes, thats a grand total of 1 per game….i for one hope he is gone for good….
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How many picks did the $10 million man get? How many TDs did he give up?
Was Seymour, Kelly and McClain able to stop the run?
February 24th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Arm chair general managers…if you loose rout who’s your number 1 cb ch Johnson? This move had to be made.The raiders realize nmandi won’t be back next year.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Another thing is that all of these deals are short term deals. As with any contract or negotiation, you will most likely have to pay more for shorter term deals and you usually get discounts for longer term deals.
So would you rather have Routt at 5 years for 40 mil (28 guaranteed) or the deal he got?
Players take risks by taking shorter term deals so there is a premium for that risk. Owner has to pay more upfront but has the benefit of future financial flexibility.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Before the 2006 season we were all saying Nnamdi wasn’t close to charles woodson and we were all wrong,so let’s wait and see.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
SharkCatcher Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Arm chair general managers…if you loose rout who’s your number 1 cb ch Johnson? This move had to be made.The raiders realize nmandi won’t be back next year
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If the Raiders went out and used the “surplus money” from getting rid of Nnamdi on another elite player or two very good players…then I could see the tradeoff.
But…Stanford Routt? Overpaid by $7MM….I don’t think he’s getting a $10 Million offer on the street.
Should have used the money to bring in Sidney Rice…..
February 24th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
116.chuck Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Before the 2006 season we were all saying Nnamdi wasn’t close to charles woodson and we were all wrong,so let’s wait and see.
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Routt wasn’t barely a starter in 2009. Him and CJ were a push…and still are. Routt should have received CJ money
February 24th, 2011 at 7:28 pm
If the Raiders had a scheme that hid their corners…then by all means dispatch Nnamdi’s huge salary.
But the Raiders don’t do that and you all know it.
I hope Routt and McFadden are up for the task of playing the island
February 24th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Routt had a decent contract year, and Davis, faced with losing the superior player, overpays the latter player.
But they damned sure couldn’t lose both.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Raiders give up 29 pass TDs….3rd worst behind teams like Dallas, Houston, Seattle and Philly….teams all in the market for secondary help.
Except the Raiders have a starting CB who gives up ZERO TDs and shuts down his side of the field.
So who gave up those 29 pass TDs last year? Are they still on the team? And who replaces the one guy who gave up none?
February 24th, 2011 at 7:35 pm
KoolKell Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Routt had a decent contract year, and Davis, faced with losing the superior player, overpays the latter player.
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That’s pretty much it.
They should have traded him last year if they knew they didn’t want to pay him the money.
Get a 1st rounder and a player or something. That’s what New England did with Seymour.
If you know a player is not in the long-term plans AND you are not a serious contender….make moves.
Well, the Raiders didn’t…and I am hard pressed to think this defense is better than last year.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
Unless the Raiders step up the pass rush, we’re almost certainly looking at the number of passing TDs given up go from 26 to 30. Because no way is whoever replaces Nnamdi in the lineup going to give up no TDs on the season like he did.
Hopefully Al manages to draft a game-changer on defense, and all the young players take the next step.
February 24th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
Mistabr0wn Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 6:41 pm
KK, I’ll take your silence as a yes, thanks for making it clear you are for gay marriage & gays in the military.
Mistap00p, and what if I am?
To understand what is happening, you must understand the liberal mindset. Liberals are people who don’t think of themselves as ‘Americans’ but as members of separate groups like “homosexuals” or “blacks”!
February 24th, 2011 at 8:58 pm
I don’t think it’s clear what Routt is actually going to be paid.
If it’s 20 million over three years, that’s not astronomical by today’s standards.
If incentives (such as making the pro-bowl, or a defined number of interceptions/passes defended) are met and he winds up making 10 million a year – that’s also not out of line.
Is Routt worth that type of money ? Probably not. Only time will tell.
The Routt contract indicates that Nnamdi is probably gone, but I still wouldn’t rule out Aso returning at something like 12 million a year guaranteed for 3 or 4 years. That would make Aso the highest paid DB on the Raids and in the NFL.
Depends on how badly Davis wants to retain Nnamdi, and if Nnamdi even wants to return. Haven’t heard Nnamdi say that he wants to remain a Raider, and that can’t sit well with Al.
Truth is, Nnamdi was paid far more than any other DB in the NFL last year and the classy thing to do would be to show some loyalty to the organization that compensated him so well by publicly stating that he wants to remain a Raider.
Heck, just say it even if you don’t mean it. Wouldn’t hurt your bargaining position. In fact, it’d probably make it more likely that Al would break the bank to retain his ‘loyal’ player and great Raidah.
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One other thought.
Sure hope Hue was putting out some disinformation about the Raids not even considering drafting a QB.
I mean, I can understand him saying JaJason is written in stone for 2011, but you’re not even looking at drafting a QB ?
Raids better have some contingency plans in place because I’m telling you JaJason isn’t going to make it through the 2011 season as the starter. He will either wind up being yanked for being the JaJason we saw against Tenn, St Lou, SF, and Pitt – or he’s going to tap out after a few hits to his helmet.
Sure hope the Raids resign Grads because Hue and Al’s delusional bubble about JaJason being the man is going to burst in 2011.
JaJason sucks.
February 24th, 2011 at 9:03 pm
truth be told ! alot of you guys said wtf. when we drafted nnamdi in the first round. it took him about 4-5 years to become who he is .routt has shown the same traits. he is a good cover corner, he get no love from the refs. but he locks on his man. he needs to play the ball better . but it wouldn’t surprise me to see him be that lock down corner…. watch.
mcfadden too showed he has game in the preseason, he had his man on lock-down . the hamstring messed his developement up then against miami 1st. game as a pro not good. but all in all he played great coverage just got beat on the come back routes the receivers were running .rod wood will make him a star.
like to see huff come back but….?
zack will be next. then davis wll concentrate on the o-line and a veteran receiver…. to be continued
February 24th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
Al is still at war….
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/619225-oakland-raider-owner-al-davis-still-at-war-with-the-nfl
February 24th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
And tap out after a few hits? But yet you want Grads resigned? Lol you are an idiot and need to do the honorable thing and kill yourself. Maybe your family will gain happpiness again
February 24th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
YA……pass rush is the key….we can have average cbs like steelers do and win if we generated hell on the qb……damn nnamdi man
February 24th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
The hate on JC is sickening…….The guy was 7-5 as a starter. Not even everyone’s favorite butt buddy Gannon did better in his first 12 starts for the Raiders…..spare me the other semantics about the run game and what others did. Only one position on field has W-L attached to them. Does the guy piss me off at times? Hell yeah! But as qb he the best you gonna get in 2011
February 24th, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Anyhow…..to da bar at Jack London….check ya later
February 24th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Hopefully the Raider LBs get better at bringing the heat. Given the fact that the secondary is naturally going to take a step backward, getting a WLB who can pressure the QB consistently would be key.
February 24th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
Let me get this straight….We’re talking about Stanford Routt who chose to cover the TE when there was only 1 WR on the field and his side of the ball against Bowe/KC. Dude is frickin clueless on the field. He admitted he is better playing outside and can’t tackle worth a damn.
February 24th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
The Raiders on Thursday secured the services of linebacker Kamerion Wimbley and cornerback Stanford Routt at a cost of more than $30 million.
Routt, 27, received a three-year contract extension that guarantees him $20 million the first two years and potentially is worth $31.5 million. He earned slightly more than $3 million last season.
Wimbley, 27, was designated the Raiders’ nonexclusive franchise player, which is worth $10,151,000 for 2011, or the average salary of the five highest-paid linebackers in 2010. He led the Raiders with nine sacks last season, his first with the Raiders.
Steve Corkran
http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_17478556?nclick_check=1
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Wimbley tagged. 10 mill.
February 24th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
J Hill, Mr. Condo’s agent needs to know the Franchise Tag $$$ for long-snappers.
February 24th, 2011 at 11:02 pm
Raiders still need to go after Mr. Asomugha.
I like the fact that the Raiders secured their front D-Line:
Mr. Seymour & Mr. Henderson resigned, we have Mr. Houston, Mr. Shaughnessy, Mr. Scott, Mr. Bryant, and Mr. Kelley under contract.
I still see the Raiders drafting a DT or a DE in the draft this year though.
February 24th, 2011 at 11:05 pm
That we have Mr. Wimbley (now most definately) for the 2011 season logically conlcludes that the Raidersw will be among the leaders in sacks in 2011.
Raiders’ goal should be 64 sacks!
Raiders resigning Mr. Cartwright should not be undervalued!
February 24th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
If you look between the lines of the media chaos, whose re-signing players, us and now the Broncos. It tells me we had a contract on the table for Bailey? You dont think we would want to sign the first big name free agent? The Cba ends 3/3
February 24th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
Routt gets 10mil per season.
The Hubris of Al Davis.
February 24th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
A busy day around these parts…
My favourite read out of the past few posts,
Hue referring to Mike Bush in good “spirits” regarding his DUI. LMAO!!
Also, why does Hue say he’s lucky to have gotten Wylie and Wisniewski, he didn’t get anybody. The one guy he tried to get to coach here, Thurman, was denied!
Bye, bye Nnamdi. At least we’re locking up everyone but him. Al is looking to Rod Woodson to perform miracles this year.
February 24th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
You know the saying, “You can’t take your money with you(when you die)” I fear Al is going all in, once again.
February 24th, 2011 at 11:49 pm
General Bauce Says:
February 24th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
The hate on JC is sickening……
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You want to feel sickened, watch any game where Campbell is under even remote pressure. Gradkowski is better under pressure. ………PERIOD!!!!
February 24th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
I can’t wait till Al Davis hires a defensive coordinator who goes public with his meddling. I don’t know if Al Davis can actually sit there and dictate a defensive game plan week after week, while having a defensive coordinator. The DC gets blamed for the results. So if he didn’t design the defense, and it fails, and he gets the blame, there should be a legitimate grievance for arbitration there. Let’s hope Breshnehan is that fire cracker that finally lashes out. Notice I don’t even bother cheering for the defense. What’s the point? It’s sabotaged with an 81 year old owner medding with the depth chart and scheme. I’m just rooting for our DC to go Kiffin mid season. That’s all.
February 25th, 2011 at 2:19 am
10m a year for Routt?
February 25th, 2011 at 5:10 am
Routt got 3M last year and everyone thought that was crazy. This deal is reminiscent of Kellly without the knee operation. How can we keep Nnamdi now? Personally I don’t care what Al does with his money, just as long as he can keep and aquire the players needed to win. Now I read that he’s giving Henderson 8M for 2 years after receiving 1M for last year where he missed 7 games!!
At times like these, man I wish I could run a 4.25 40!
February 25th, 2011 at 5:10 am
Have a great day Nation! I’m off to hit the slopes!!!!!!
February 25th, 2011 at 5:41 am
Al said the money saved from Nnamdi would be used to sign 3 good players and we were dumb enough to think that would be FA players from other teams. Instead, it was spent on overvalued players he could have kept for much less.
Oh man, you got us again Al, you little nymph you…
February 25th, 2011 at 5:50 am
The best course of action for both parties is a longterm deal which Wimbley’s agent Joe Linta said has been in the works in recent days
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great news!
glad Cartwright & Henderson are back too
please cross RB & NT off your FA/draftee wish list
February 25th, 2011 at 5:53 am
Groves is still under contract and Wimbley has been tagged. looks like we’re good at OLB now too!
can Rod Woodson turn McFadden and/or Ware into starter quality cornerbacks?
if not, we’re either starting CJ37 or drafting a CB in RD2
February 25th, 2011 at 5:56 am
I still think we’re going to have 4 new starters on the O-Line.
Veldheer & Campbell have LT & RG virtually locked down
the other 3 spots are up for grabs. I wonder if Al Davis will force Wylie & Wiz to make due with less on the OL like he did Tom Cable?
I guess we’ll find out if the other 3 starters are late rounders or FA’s that nobody else wants. scrubs, cuts and cast offs. perhaps even malcontents and 1st round busts
February 25th, 2011 at 5:59 am
Jer says that Al Davis is very good at keeping the players he wants to keep … so if he wants to keep Nnamdi Asomugha, I’m guessing he’ll be willing to spend $15-20 million per season, regardless of what he might get on the open market (say $11 or 12 million annually)
February 25th, 2011 at 5:59 am
BBL
February 25th, 2011 at 6:01 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.ROCKSTAR.
February 25th, 2011 at 6:01 am
4 new starters = Charlie Frye as the starting QB by the bye week
February 25th, 2011 at 6:11 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Wow…can I sign up for water boy and get 1 million per year?
I heard somewhere that Al is working on a deal to make Asomugha, once again, the highest paid CB in the league (world) and working on a deal to keep Huff here alos…sorry, can’t post a link, or anything. Was going off ears, as i was away from computers last night!
February 25th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Sup fellas. $4 million a year for John Henderson is even MORE ridiculous than $10 million for Routt. I hear Al is working on a deal to make Nnamdi a partial owner of the team and to pay Huff $100 million.
February 25th, 2011 at 6:25 am
JUST SPREAD THE WEALTH BABY…
February 25th, 2011 at 6:28 am
If Hue says that they are not looking at any other QB’s in the draft, I wonder who the other QB’s on the roster will be.
Bruce is a FA, but doesn’t look like Al is rushing to retain him. Frye and Boller are options, but not very good ones.
Should be mildy intersting. When’s the last time we had one guy play all 16 games?
February 25th, 2011 at 6:32 am
BIG AL JUST DOING HIS PART 2 STIMULATE THE ECONOMY.GOOD ? JFB.QB TAKE’S SUCH A BEATING.
February 25th, 2011 at 6:45 am
bcz24 Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 6:24 am
Sup fellas. $4 million a year for John Henderson is even MORE ridiculous than $10 million for Routt. I hear Al is working on a deal to make Nnamdi a partial owner of the team and to pay Huff $100 million.
Got that tweet yesterday…haha! Hey, you may be right!
February 25th, 2011 at 6:50 am
good morning nation,
if we re-sign our free agents, all we will need is a good tackle a center, and a free agent wide out who can catch the darn ball,,, and we’ll be okay imo….
February 25th, 2011 at 6:55 am
Overpaying a player is nothing new it happens all the time, I don’t even sweat it anymore, it’s not my money, call me crazy but something tells me Stanford Routt is gona breakout into a very good corner. It wasn’t too long ago when Asomougha couldn’t catch a cold in a blizzard before he became who he is now, plus with Rod Woodson teaching him how can Routt NOT get better? We’ll be alright.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:01 am
@Just Fire Baby, wouldnt be surprising to see Troy Smith being brought in.. Al liked him coming out and might see him as a good #2 for a couple of years.. Only problem is Saunders playbook and scheme with an emphasis on accuracy, but a good chance he will be brought in imo..
February 25th, 2011 at 7:14 am
I like Routt but that’s just too much dang money for him.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:16 am
Some stuff on Stanford Routt’s 2010 season:
Football Outsiders:
— “The Raiders re-signed cornerback Stanford Routt today to a three-year, $31.5 million extension, featuring $20 million over the first two seasons…
Now, on the surface, this looks like the usual Oakland silliness.
However, it is worth noting that Routt actually had phenomenal game charting stats in 2010.
I keep meaning to write something about his numbers, because his name jumps off a list of this year’s top corners…
Routt allowed 5.5 yards per pass with a 67 percent Success Rate.
Both figures are near the top of the league.
It was so strange that we went back and looked to make sure charters weren’t making a ton of mistakes in Oakland games. They weren’t.”
espn.com
— “According to Stats Inc., four AFC West cornerbacks — including three Oakland Raiders — were among the top six cornerbacks in the NFL in “burn” percentage rates (minimum of 20 targets).
Oakland clearly enjoyed strong cornerback play. Nnamdi Asomugha and Stanford Routt were tied for third place — giving up completions on 39.4 percent of the attempts thrown their way.
Routt’s numbers are particularly interesting.
He had 99 passes thrown at him, mostly because he was playing opposite Asomugha most of the year. Yet Routt only allowed 39 catches.
Asomugha had just 33 passes thrown at him — an average of just two a game. Asomugha gave up 13 catches.
Routt was up to the task of playing opposite a superstar cornerback.
That could earn Routt a lot of money as both he and Asomugha are free agents.
Cornerback is always a premium position in free agency.
Routt’s ability to withstand a storm in 2010 will make him attractive on the open market.”
from bleacherreport.com, using the stats.inc numbers posted by espn on the article above.
— “These numbers show how often each CB gives up a completion and touchdown…
One number that jumps out is the touchdowns given up by Routt (four) and Revis (five).
They gave up just about the same, but Routt gives up a TD just under five percent of the times he is thrown at, Revis got scored on nearly twice as often.
Opposing quarterbacks are also posting a QB rating of 78.8 when targeting Revis.
When QBs go after Routt, they are averaging a QB Rating of 69.0 and just 66.2 against Asomugha.”
February 25th, 2011 at 7:19 am
Yeah, we are supposed to buy that Routt is better than Nnamdi because of one stat from one year.
I guess Al didn’t learn his lesson from losing Woodson.
Now we get the joy of watching another HOF CB prosper in a different NFL city.
At least with Woodson there were injury and work ethic concerns…..Nnamdi had none of those issues.
Al drafts and drafts CBs and once he get some that are good, he lets them go. I just don’t understand it. Guess we all know where next year’s #1 pick is going after Routt is burned all year.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Now if I remember correctly, most of Routt’s issues in the past happened when he was the 3rd CB behind Nnamdi and CJ and often played in the slot, not a good fit for his game.
But he proved last year he can handle the starting job outside.
Later.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:23 am
Now I read that he’s giving Henderson 8M for 2 years after receiving 1M for last year where he missed 7 games!!
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Really? Hey, you know we dominated the run with him! Oh wait, no we didn’t.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:24 am
cheer up guys, there is still time for all you whiners, fake fans, bait cutters, al haters, trolls and fat mouth know nothings to ABANDON SHIP..see ya!!good luck with your new teams..
February 25th, 2011 at 7:27 am
Bob Marley Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Now if I remember correctly, most of Routt’s issues in the past happened when he was the 3rd CB behind Nnamdi and CJ and often played in the slot, not a good fit for his game.
But he proved last year he can handle the starting job outside.
Later.
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You will beat your head against the wall for hours trying to make that point but people just dont get it. I dont think Routt is worth 10 mill a year, but I certainly dont believe we will be the worst team in the NFL if Routt is our starting CB. He is already facing the best receiver on the field 70% of the time, and facing the pressure of play opposite a CB that is regularly ignored. People bring up his stats prior to 2010 but he essentially played a different position. He was inside on slot receivers as the 3rd CB. Nnamdi was terrible inside too, but that is overlooked.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:28 am
Watch the CBA come back with a $100 million dollar hard cap next year. Will we be able to play with just 11 players on the entire roster?
February 25th, 2011 at 7:29 am
Really? Hey, you know we dominated the run with him! Oh wait, no we didn’t.
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Yup… Big John talked a big game before Jacksonville and that game was probably the worst performance by our run defense all season. I personally would have given Henderson 1 million for the season again, or let him walk… He was of no benefit to us.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:30 am
Adam Schefter is always right about the Raiders. Rule of thumb.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:30 am
That would be lower than the cap 2 years ago… IF and I stress IF there is a cap this year it will be no less than $125, and it is certainly not very difficult to manipulate contracts to fit in the cap.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:31 am
You guys are too funny….most of you claimed Nnamdi is by far the best CB in the NFL for the past 4 years and with one snap of his fingers Al now has you sucking on Stanford Routt’s ballz and feeling good about it.
lol
February 25th, 2011 at 7:31 am
Oh gawwwwwd. You are here this early… ughhh.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:34 am
Dakota Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 7:31 am
You guys are too funny….most of you claimed Nnamdi is by far the best CB in the NFL for the past 4 years and with one snap of his fingers Al now has you sucking on Stanford Routt’s ballz and feeling good about it.
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Nnamdi is STILL the best cornerback in the league. Routt is MUCH better than people here give him credit for, at least he was last year after being moved outside. I also said he is NOT worth $10 mil. How do you figure that is me sucking his ballz? Dmac proved himself this year… imo so did routt… I certainly think he proved himself to the tune of 5 million a year though, 10 is ridiculous, but I am not going to hate on Routt because Al screwed up again.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:34 am
When is Adam Schefter ever wrong about the Raiders?
February 25th, 2011 at 7:35 am
In fact, most of the media is always right about the Raiders, and the Raiders, ironically enough, are almost always wrong…about themselves! Ever notice that?
February 25th, 2011 at 7:40 am
Only thing that pisses me off more than Nnamdi being dumped for Routt is the fact that Two and a Half Men has been cancelled for the rest of the season.
Just film one more episode where Charlie gets drunk and cheats on Rose with Berta, and when Rose finds out she then commits a murder suicide taking both her life and Charlie’s. And when Charlie’s will is read Berta finds out she gets everything, and Alan ends up in a homeless shelter…and Jake takes off to begin his life in the circus.
Of course Evelyn hooks up with the lawyer who wrote Charlie’s will.
Ties up the entire show.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:44 am
bcz24,
I wasn’t pointing those comments directly at you….just the general consensus in here that dumping Nnamdi for Routt and then massively overpaying Routt is somehow okay.
I think it will turn into a huge mistake.
I am just uber frustrated. I’d rather have seen Al sit on his billfold like the rest of the owners and then hand out some rational contracts after the CBA is finalized.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Two and Half Men might be the dumbest sitcom in American history. They did you a favor by canceling it.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Two and a Half Men jumped the shark when that “Kid” outgrew his two dads.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:50 am
We get it dude. You are miserable human being who only enjoys being miserable.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:51 am
182.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Two and Half Men might be the dumbest sitcom in American history. They did you a favor by canceling it.
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Guess you haver watched “The Ropers”.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:51 am
88never**
February 25th, 2011 at 7:52 am
They should keep two and half men running, just replace Charlie Sheen with the guy who played Larry on Three’s Company.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:53 am
How bout Miami Franchising Soliai at 12.2 million for the year… he is about as good as TK! LOL
February 25th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Dakota, they had to cancel Two And a HAlf men when the kid turned 30.
February 25th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Oh well, what happens next! Not that it matters…
February 25th, 2011 at 7:59 am
By the time Two and a Half men was canceled, the kid was the same age as Charlie Sheen. Oh! Pow! Ugggggghhh
February 25th, 2011 at 7:59 am
189.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Dakota, they had to cancel Two And a HAlf men when the kid turned 30.
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30 year old guys live at home all the time. You should know that.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:01 am
190.hwnrdr Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Oh well, what happens next! Not that it matters…
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Al will make Marcel Reece the highest paid RB in the NFL.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Dakota Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 7:59 am
189.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 7:55 am
Dakota, they had to cancel Two And a HAlf men when the kid turned 30.
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30 year old guys live at home all the time. You should know that.
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There is nothing wrong with living at home. It seems like you have a problem with that?
February 25th, 2011 at 8:02 am
Gil Brandt’s hot 100 came out on NFL.com. He typically pegs 90% of the top 100 players drafted; thus, he is typically the best at evaulating the draft among the internet hacks & talking heads.
Big surprise Stefen Wisnewski not in the hot 100.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Props to the raiders for locking down. Routt
stats are accurate,he’s a great corner,get over it.
Now let’s continue to retain our players nnamdi too,
an draft well.
See ya in the playoffs!!!
Stop hatin we will be fine.
I watched routt get challenged week in an out an he stood up to the challenge
he’s come along well. He’ll do nothing but get better an better. ie, see rod woodson.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:04 am
Dakota says I live it at home, Kell, because his 70 IQ brain can’t muster up a better comeback.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:04 am
if you know raiders history, you know mr davis has been the very best at developing and acquiring defensive backs. more raiders db’s are in the hof then any other team in the nfl.. why would you think that is not going to continue?? when nnamdi was first drafted many semi pros said it would be the end of the world, how did that work out??? now mr davis says routt is the man, how can anyone disagree? stop with the doom and gloom guys, routt will be fine and so will the raiders!!
February 25th, 2011 at 8:05 am
# r8rwill Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:04 am
if you know raiders history, you know mr davis has been the very best at developing and acquiring defensive backs.
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LOL!!!
February 25th, 2011 at 8:07 am
KK,
What’s the matter, you have a deadbeat son living at home?
February 25th, 2011 at 8:10 am
The greatest day of Dakota’s life is when he hauled his parents off to the nursing home and took their house key.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:12 am
The greatest day of MR’s life is when he was named employee of the month at Carl’s Jr.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:13 am
Employee of the month at Carl’s Jr. Wow. That’s good, Dakota. It’s like one grade above “poopy head”. This is why everyone’s so intimidated by you. The quick wit!
February 25th, 2011 at 8:15 am
Big surprise Stefen Wisnewski not in the hot 100.
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Not suprised here.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:16 am
Good Morning Nation!
Let’s see what crazy Al does today??
Give JLH a 3yr/30 million, Satele a 5yr/45 million, Eugene a 3yr/40 million…???
February 25th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Second greatest day in MR’s life was the day his cousin let him get to second base.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:19 am
That’s disgusting, Dakota. You’re a pervert.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:21 am
207.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:19 am
That’s disgusting, Dakota. You’re a pervert.
Says this guy:
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
June 1st, 2010 at 11:57 am
Save it. Mark it. I’ve got a few fine cousins, only my generation or older, though. If they would, I would. Hell yes. Sorry. My junk has a mind of its own.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
June 1st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
What hole am I in? Is there something wrong with wanting to do your cousins? Is that taboo? If so, Sorry. Don’t know what to say. I have two cousins, both older, I would do in a heartbeat. Wanted to do them since I was a teenager. You guys can bring it up every day.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
June 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
My cousin Theresa has a perfect body at age 40 and this ridiculous pair of cans. Wanted to do her since I was a teenager. Don’t care what anyone thinks of it. You can bring it up every day. That’ll be my response.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:22 am
now mr davis says routt is the man, how can anyone disagree? …really? c´mon, really?
February 25th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Maybe Al Davis is just spending his share of the increased owner’s revenue sharing pie. Certainly not getting it from home stadium revenues. lol
Mark Davis, your dad is spending your inheritance.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:31 am
Exla,
Maybe Al is confused and he thinks the Raiders signed a 20 year $3 billion dollar deal with Time Warner….someone needs to tell him that was his buddy Jerry Buss and the Lakers.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:34 am
For all you Grads hater’s, after his wedding in June, he will be opening a Chicago style sports bar and grill here in Toledo named “Gradkowski’s”. That’s what you do when you get a windfall from AD. Invest in your future. $1.8 mil last year.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:35 am
What’s wrong with any of that, Dakota?
February 25th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Restaurant business is the worst business to get into. He should have invested it in private schools, private security, private military, any private company contracting with a government. That’s the only economy America has left.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:37 am
AD is just wasting the money he won’t have to give out to another 1st round bust. Only good money was to McFadden!
Now do I get off the list Dakota?
February 25th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Dakota… you just provided the world with the definition of OWNED! LOL. Thats great.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:37 am
There won’t be a restaurant in existence in 5 years. Just fast food, and we’ll all have our food stamp cards.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:40 am
MR, his pub will be just off the Univ of Toledo campus where he is an icon. Partnering with a very successful Sports Bar owner here in town who he does commercials and autograft sessions for.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:41 am
Univ of Toledo will be shut down within 3 years, ExLA. Just what world are you living in?
February 25th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Dakota, they’re talking about Three And a Half Men on the local news here in Sacramento, it’s the top story, over the middle east and Wisconsin protests.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:43 am
218.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:40 am
MR, his pub will be just off the Univ of Toledo campus where he is an icon. Partnering with a very successful Sports Bar owner here in town who he does commercials and autograft sessions for.
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I hear his specialty will be Chicken Noodle-armed Soup.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:44 am
The Real World, not your drug induced, drunken reality world. I’m out, not wanting to get in a spitting contest with The Real MoronRaider.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:44 am
The Fighter should win dumbest movie of the year at the Oscars.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Ha ha. ExLa thinks there’s still going to be public colleges in America’s future. He thinks Gradkowski’s restaurant wont’ fold like every other restaurant because it’s next to the university of Toledo! Toledo! That’s like Notre Dame or Duke! LOL
February 25th, 2011 at 8:47 am
protests.
221.Dakota Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:43 am
218.exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:40 am
MR, his pub will be just off the Univ of Toledo campus where he is an icon. Partnering with a very successful Sports Bar owner here in town who he does commercials and autograft sessions for.
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I hear his specialty will be Chicken Noodle-armed Soup.
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No, I hear it will be a Polish specialty, “Separated Pork Shoulder.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:47 am
220.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Dakota, they’re talking about Three And a Half Men on the local news here in Sacramento, it’s the top story, over the middle east and Wisconsin protests.
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I thought they would be talking about how your Kings are moving to Anaheim.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:49 am
Separated Pork Shoulder…too funny.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:50 am
Nobody cares that the Kings are moving to Anaheim. I don’t think they’re even going to talk about that on the news. And they’re not “my” Kings. Fugg them. I’ve disassociated myself with them a few years ago. I saw this all along, have been saying for years they were going to move, only for these idiots up here to stick their fingers in their ears and be in denial. I was right, as I usually am with sports owners. I don’t know what to say, I just know sports owners, know what they’re all about. I can call their next move from a mile away, and I knew for years now the Maloofs were going to move the Kings, except that I’ll admit I thought it would be Vegas. These guys came right in and threw their shirts on the table, suddenly they stop spending money. I knew it.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:51 am
The only problem I have with the Henderson signing is that I was hoping they’d be looking at a DT/NT in the draft. Now that looks pretty unlikely.
This spending spree is pretty typical of Al, but as long as he gets the major FAs back into the fold I can’t really complain. I don’t see Asomugha coming back, and that was a possibility even before he gave Routt a $30 million contract. Gallery is probably gone, too.
I just wonder what Al is going to do with Michael Huff. Huff wants to hit the open market and probably will… is Al going to make an FA signing to replace him? With all the money spent lately I don’t know how likely that is. This is a pretty weak safety class in the draft… maybe Al is planning on taking a CB and moving him to safety? Or maybe Brown, Mitchell, and Ware are going to battle it out for the starting FS job.
I don’t know, for a position that carries so much responsibility with the way the Raiders play defense, the uncertainty is definitely not comforting.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Dakota, they will still have the UFL. Oops maybe not. Wasn’t it owned by Pelosi’s husband?
February 25th, 2011 at 8:52 am
I hear his specialty will be Chicken Noodle-armed Soup.
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No, I hear it will be a Polish specialty, “Separated Pork Shoulder.
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LOL!
February 25th, 2011 at 8:52 am
Just the Sacramento team.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:53 am
I think Gardowski is the perfect backup. We should certainly bring him back. Charlie Frye #3. Boeller was TERRIBLE!
February 25th, 2011 at 8:54 am
No way the Maloofs are getting an arena, so they’re moving somewhere. The wealthy put the tea party out there to keep an anti-Barry sentiment across America, now their Frankenstein is turning on them. Governments at every level are afraid to spend a dime on anything now.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:55 am
I heard that…Kings in Anaheim? Really? 3 basketball teams in LA? I know my friends that are Kings fans will be upset!
February 25th, 2011 at 8:55 am
EXLA,
Pelosi has a husband? Is the guy blind, deaf and dumb?
February 25th, 2011 at 8:55 am
Well, I have to go shovel the snow. 6 1/2 more last night. Greatest Feb snowfall in Toledo history. Dang global warming.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:57 am
Hey, goodbye again, Exla! See you in 5 minutes.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:58 am
No, there’ll still be one basketball team in LA.
February 25th, 2011 at 8:59 am
235.hwnrdr Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:55 am
I heard that…Kings in Anaheim? Really? 3 basketball teams in LA? I know my friends that are Kings fans will be upset!
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Maybe they should just share 1/2 of Staples with the Clippers. They could double up in the lockers, no big deal. And then someone would be there to help the Clipper players do the Lakers’ laundry!
February 25th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Nice, Dakota!
February 25th, 2011 at 9:05 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:45 am
Ha ha. ExLa thinks there’s still going to be public colleges in America’s future. He thinks Gradkowski’s restaurant wont’ fold like every other restaurant
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My brothers restaurant is doing fabulously, this is his 7th year in business and it keeps getting better.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Bcz, how is your brother’s restaurant going to do “fabulously” when nobody has a job? Does he take food stamps? Use your head.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Perkins and Mohammed to OKC makes them possibly the best team in the West.
AND they got to keep their other big man. The African kid, I forget his name.
Lakers better stop playin!
February 25th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Go Lakers!
February 25th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Bcz, how is your brother’s restaurant going to do “fabulously” when nobody has a job? Does he take food stamps? Use your head.
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You a retarded. Get a grip on reality.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:18 am
244.J Hill Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Perkins and Mohammed to OKC makes them possibly the best team in the West.
AND they got to keep their other big man. The African kid, I forget his name.
Lakers better stop playin!
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I just hope OKC and the Spurs have to play each other before they play the Lakers.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:20 am
No, Bcz, you a retarded!
February 25th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Dakota, wait till the Lakers play the Anaheim Queens. You won’t see a bigger bandwagon Laker fan than me.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:23 am
MR,
Is your favorite player on the Kings Demarcus “Cousins”?
February 25th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Of course they will. I can’t see the Lakers or Dallas catching the Spurs for the #1 seed, and OKC won’t do better than the 4th seed.
Lakers are going to end up with a cake walk to the West Conf finals, lol.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Celtics were pretty dumb to trade their offensive lineman to OKC. Lakers can go ahead and size up those rings.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Dakota, you’re sick. There’s something wrong with you.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Come on MR, that was funny….admit it.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:33 am
It was sick, Dakota. You need help.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:37 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Dakota, you’re sick. There’s something wrong with you.
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Why is he sick for making fun of you after you were quoted NUMEROUS times as saying you would sleep with your cousin? You aRE retarded, and apparently a sexual deviant who thinks incest is acceptable.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:41 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:37 am
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
February 25th, 2011 at 9:47 am
I am so glad you decided to pollute the quality morning conversations with your drivel. Wish you would do it every morning. Its kind of enjoyable to watch you say dumb things and get spanked around.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:47 am
257.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:41 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:37 am
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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That is like one grade BELOW “poopy head”.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:47 am
CousinFukcer
February 25th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Bcz24,
you are correct sir. It is a great shame when KR injects his light-dousing banality into the AM.
To adapt a quote from a few decades ago,
This blog site needs KiffinRaider like a fish needs a bicycle.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:48 am
That is like one grade BELOW “poopy head”.
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Relax buddy, you keep smackin this guy around and your hands are gonna be really sore! LOL
February 25th, 2011 at 9:49 am
# Dakota Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:47 am
That is like one grade BELOW “poopy head”.
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Actually, I was directly quoting him, Dakota. That’s really what he said.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Actually, I was directly quoting him, Dakota. That’s really what he said.
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Wow. You should definitely quit unemployment and go get a job as an insult comic… your first album might go Aluminum.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:53 am
Hell fk’n yeah!
My boy “Mr. Potato Head” is back.
Look for the special teams to have another solid season.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:53 am
J Hill Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:53 am
I think Gardowski is the perfect backup. We should certainly bring him back. Charlie Frye #3. Boeller was TERRIBLE!
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Bite your tongue! Bruise must go. Still don’t get how he’s the perfect backup. The guy doesn’t know his role.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:56 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
February 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Gradkowski is the perfect backup, on a normal NFL team. Here he’s the starter.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:56 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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Actual quote = “Wow. You should definitely quit unemployment and go get a job as an insult comic… your first album might go Aluminum.”
February 25th, 2011 at 9:58 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
Gradkowski is the perfect backup, on a normal NFL team. Here he’s the starter.
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Didnt you change your name to “The Real GradkowskiRaider” for like half the season?
February 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
February 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
y’all are forgetting an important syllable… im-
Brucekowski is the imperfect backup QB.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 9:58 am
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
February 25th, 2011 at 10:06 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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Its an improvement over hearing how you want to bone your cousin…
February 25th, 2011 at 10:08 am
# bcz24 Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:06 am
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
February 25th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Kamerion Wimbley is interested in working out a long-term deal with the Raiders after being designated the franchise player Thursday.
Not a bad idea to strike while Al Davis has the checkbook out. Coach Hue Jackson called Wimbley a “great young talent,” and Davis showed how much he values the pass rusher by applying the tag. Per the Oakland Tribune, the Raiders are already discussing a long-term deal with Wimbley.
Source: CSN Bay Area
February 25th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Wimbley sucks.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Bcz…..what the hell are you talking about on Hendu? Served no benefit? Thats a flat out lie! How many times do you guys gotta go against me on this issue just get put in check? The jax game those huge plays on the ground was not happening with him in there. Go waatch that game again and hear commentators continually speak on him. Seymour aand kelly are the ones who stink verse the run
February 25th, 2011 at 10:16 am
And MR you moron….Grad is better when Pressure is on? Bullshhhht. You just love noodle arm qbs you 49er loving punk. JC hands down better than losing record gradkowski
February 25th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Wimbley sucks? Ok MR its the usual from you…..Al Davis signs a guy and he must suck
February 25th, 2011 at 10:17 am
General Bauce Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am
How many times do you guys gotta go against me on this issue just get put in check?
…..
I go against you on just about everything you’ve opened your fat, stupid mouth on, and you’ve never once put me in check.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:18 am
# General Bauce Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:17 am
.Al Davis signs a guy and he must suck
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Pretty much. Isn’t that the case about 98% of the time?
February 25th, 2011 at 10:19 am
General Bauce Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Bcz…..what the hell are you talking about on Hendu? Served no benefit? Thats a flat out lie! How many times do you guys gotta go against me on this issue just get put in check? The jax game those huge plays on the ground was not happening with him in there. Go waatch that game again and hear commentators continually speak on him. Seymour aand kelly are the ones who stink verse the run
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Show any kind of tangible evidence that John Henderson did enough to merit of 3 million dollar raise. He played maybe… MAYBE 80 snaps this year? Our run defense did not improve at all. Sure I am all for retaining Henderson but I dont see how he (like every other signing yesterday) warranted the pay increase. Period.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:20 am
4 new starters = Charlie Frye as the starting QB by the bye week
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JFB,
no love for Bruce?
even after I posted that Youtube clip of him for you on Valentine’s Day ???
or are you assuming that he gets hurt before the bye week, too?
LOL!
February 25th, 2011 at 10:22 am
so who do you guys want to play LG, C & RT?
Gallery, Satele, Carlisle & Walker are gone …
Print That!
February 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Jhill….lakers size up the rings? no one in the nba better think that right now. West has 4 legit teams as does the east. lakers do not have a cakewalk if they draw portland
February 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
RRS,
I could roll w/ a….
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Gaither
February 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am
the Raiders are already discussing a long-term deal with Wimbley
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after looking at the contracts given to Seymour, Henderson & Routt … what do you guys think franchise player Wimbley is going to make in a multi-year deal?
February 25th, 2011 at 10:26 am
BBL!
February 25th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Bcz….well for first time ever big john got hurt and missed half of the season which help contribute to the run numbers. also he wasnt getting starter snaps so use your brain here….on first down and second who is in the game? is it him? the money he got? oh well still need the guy sincee he is our only NT…..who should be starting
February 25th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Jhill….lakers size up the rings?
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It’s after Valentine’s day. The “season” is over, now they can focus on tuning up for the playoffs.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:29 am
Non related Raider news, but the schit is actually a little funny to me……..
Andray Blatche has apparently challenged someone to a fight via Twitter.
Ugh. Blatche got into a “Twitter fight” with someone, then eventually wrote, “I’m done with this fake internet thing if u wanna see meet me saturday after game I can throw these things homie.” This does nothing to improve Blatche’s image as an immature player, and it will be interesting to see what public reaction the Wizards have, if any.
Source: NBC Washington
February 25th, 2011 at 10:31 am
oh well still need the guy sincee he is our only NT…..who should be starting
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I will concede that his is the only NT on the roster but $4 million a year? Thats pretty steep for a rotational player.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:33 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 10:22 am
so who do you guys want to play LG, C & RT?
Gallery, Satele, Carlisle & Walker are gone …
Print That!
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Carlisle might be back, but only as veteran depth. Campbell is going to get a chance to take that spot. Although I hope they also give him a look at RT, just to see what the kid has. But I DO think Al will re-sign Mario Henderson and give him the first crack at RT.
It’s hard to picture Al Davis making any signings of outside free agents to shore up the offensive line. Tyson Clabo and Harvey Dahl from Atlanta would be good signings in that case, maybe a 1-year veteran minimum deal for Jared Gaither (although if Al was going to sign him, it would be to a 3-year $20 million deal I’m sure).
So really the draft is the only chance the Raiders have to replace the starters, assuming Gallery and Satele and Walker all leave.
In this case? Wisniewski said he’d like to be a Raider and would be open to playing center. Considering his size, that might be where he fits in best. Wisconsin’s John Moffitt could be a solid choice for LG in the 3rd round.
Veldheer – Moffitt – Wisniewski – Campbell – Henderson
Might not be bad, but the left side of the line is indeed inexperienced and Henderson still hasn’t shown he can handle pass rushers.
Veldheer – Loper – Wisniewski – Moffitt – Campbell
Could be a possibility. Loper played admirably in Gallery’s place.
There are plenty of questions about the offensive line and the secondary going into next season.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am
MR say what? LOL ive put you in check thousands of times. This whole blog has seen me destroy for 3 years now. Not even a contest. I’ll give one example……remember you saying Gruden got rid of james Jett? Well i put you in check on that. How about example 2…..Gradkowski being better than JC? well you were way off on this one as seen on the field. Example 3………how about your flip flopping(typical democrat)on the sac cheerleader thing?lol you lose again
February 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Bcz….hendu move I like but it would be wise to just let kelly go someplace else and let seymour be the UT
February 25th, 2011 at 10:37 am
but it would be wise to just let kelly go someplace else
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LUNACY!
February 25th, 2011 at 10:38 am
Jhill…..lakers got issues at pg and on the bench. they lack speed and outside shooting plus ron ron is awful…..this year is no gimme
February 25th, 2011 at 10:39 am
gradkowski the perfect back-up???? are you meaning back up the fark outa here?? you can’t be serious.. the raiders won’t even pick up his contract…
February 25th, 2011 at 10:40 am
Lunacy? Jhill how many times do SnB and myself have to tell yall that two UTs starting in the middle wont work if u wanna stop the run? You keeping running your head into a wall on this. Seymour and especially Kelly get pushed backwards vs the run
February 25th, 2011 at 10:41 am
Gradkowski aint coming back at all…….guy is about to be out of the league soon. UFL material
February 25th, 2011 at 10:42 am
rmr, stop and think about it, the raiders have always been known for their db’s, the best tandems in the history of the game!!!! mrdavis taught the other owners the value of shut down corners.. probably too much good info for ya…
February 25th, 2011 at 10:43 am
quite funny to see MSN’s web headline declaring “Raiders’ signings hurting NFL”.
hahahahahahahahaha.
all of the other members of the billionaire boys club are claiming “woe is me”, that they are so broke they don’t have the money to fix the door on the outhouse or to buy a sack of rice to feed their family, but Uncle Al just says “f^ck that” and writes checks.
hahahahahahahaha.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Gardowski is better than Boeller. Not trying to see Boeller as our #2.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:44 am
Lololololol excuse me yall…..im still crackin up about MR gushing over grad being better than JC. Decision making and accuracy are two most important things for a qb………grad is worse at both
February 25th, 2011 at 10:45 am
There is no team in the East that can beat the Lakers in 7 games.
OKC matches up well with the Lakers by adding Perkins and Nazr. Laker might not make it out of the West. I said that earlier. But they will walk through Denver and Dallas to get to the Conf finals.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Seymour doesn’t have the pass rush to be a 3 tech, imo.
Seymour getting pushed back? Didn’t see that at all.
Our Dline is fine.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Lakers walk through dallas? No way man will that happen. I have the lakers in 7 vs mavs. Thats a damn good squad that plays defense now. No one in the east? Lol you forgetting about the celtics bruh. The jeff green move counters the odom being a wildcard thing. The heat can beat you for sure…..chitown too young but would give lakers hell
February 25th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Lol jhill then u werent watching the game if you didnt see that vs the run……jhill you recently just learned about 3 tech guys….Seymour isnt a NT he cant consistenly take on the LG and C vs the run and be effective
February 25th, 2011 at 10:56 am
But jhill i want bos vs la again….it makes for great theatre especially with shaq in the mix now
February 25th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Beginning of the season, having a rookie MLB in the game cost us in the run D.
Than it started improving, but we got outchemed in the Indy game, and our DB’s missed tons of tackles in the Jax game.
Al Davis’ defense will never be a top 5 against the rush team. Top 10 may be pushing.
We just need to get more turnovers and make sure the QB continues to go down and go down hard.
Draft a NT?? Please, Al will draft 6 DB’s for every NT he drafts.
February 25th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Just gimme chad johnson at WR and ill be happy…..too bad staff loves chaz
February 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am
307. You damb strait. That was one of the things in 2010 that was vastly diff from previous season. Our D line did NOT gwet blown off the ball 2-3 yds at the snap. They dominated the LOS the majority of the time and played on the other side of the ball more often than not.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:02 am
C and LG, LT and LG, RG and C, RG and RT.
So what??!!???
Seymour has been taking on double teams his whole career.
Our Dline is fine.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:02 am
The reason the Raiders can’t stop the run is because of their reliance on “natural 4-man pressure”. The linebackers are left in man coverage almost exclusively unless a RB or TE stays in to black.
Good defenses utilize gap-eating linemen who occupy the blockers along the offensive line, and let the linebackers come in and clean up and make tackles.
Instead, the linemen all pursue the ball carrier. Good running backs can elude slower defensive linemen, and with one cut end up in a soft middle of the field with plenty of room to run.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:02 am
# J Hill Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 11:02 am
C and LG, LT and LG, RG and C, RG and RT.
So what??!!???
Seymour has been taking on double teams his whole career.
Our Dline is fine.
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I 2nd that J!
February 25th, 2011 at 11:03 am
VR…..and people said Al would never draft a MLB in top ten….what did he do?……to win in playoffs you gotta stop the run. When we play physical teams year in and year out stopping the run is crucial. We need a brute NT THATS YOUNG to be drafted for future
February 25th, 2011 at 11:04 am
The problem is not personnel. The linemen currently on the team are as good as any group of linemen you’ll find in the NFL.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Boston can’t run with tha Lakes without the OL dude Perkins out there. Changes everything for them.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Jhill do you understand scheme? Seymour was playing 5 tech in a 3-4 defense much different in a 4-3 and no he wasnt taking double teams all day in NE
February 25th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Boston cant run? The fawkin Lakers cant run. To ever say a team with a floor general like rondo cant run is absurd
February 25th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Goodole…..dline didnt get blown off vs mediocre olines but good ones they got punked
February 25th, 2011 at 11:09 am
YoungAmerican…..our dline is good but not great….lets not overdue it my good pal
February 25th, 2011 at 11:10 am
Run as in play with.
Boston is older than the Lakers and they just traded away their tough guy. If they thought they could win the ring they would not have made these trades.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:12 am
It’s a moot point. Seymour and Kelly are starting in the middle of our Dline with Hendu as the 3rd guy.
Our run D will be just fine.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:15 am
And personnel is surely an issue with our team…….no number 1 wr, no oline, no true fb,no starter at NT,no wlb,no FS as of now
February 25th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Perkins was hurt anyways.
Jeff Green is a good all-around player, and a top 5 perimeter defender in the league.
There was about a 95% chance anyways that when the Lakers-Celtics meet in the finals BOTH Bynum and Perkins will be hurt, so what does it matter.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:18 am
Jhill….first off they werent winning it with Perkins….guy aint even 100pct….it takes two years to come back from an acl injury……plus they just added a scorer who can finally backup pierce when he goes to bench…..i.e. james posey….u remember him? game 4 2008?
February 25th, 2011 at 11:19 am
We had 3 players starting at 4-3 LB positions in the NFL for the first time in the careers. Our MLB was a rookie.
Safe to say that all 3 of those guys will be better this year.
Our front 7 is just fine!
February 25th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Jhill….boston still tougher than LA up front….shaq,jermaine,davis, kristic, kg and green all gonna see time in post…..plus word is troy murphy gonna be signed when w’s buy him out.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:21 am
General Bauce Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 11:09 am
YoungAmerican…..our dline is good but not great….lets not overdue it my good pal
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They may not be “great”, but on the whole the a few teams in the league in a better position on the defensive line.
Giants, Bears and Vikings, perhaps, but the Vikings are aging and about to lose Ray Edwards.
The Raiders may not have one overwhelmingly dominant player like Julius Peppers, but as a whole it’s a solid group. They have good young players in Houston and Shaughnessy, nice depth in Bryant and Henderson, and veteran leadership in Seymour. Last season, Kelly finally showed that he has the potential to live up to his massive contract, and did everything the Raiders asked of him.
At least for this year, it’s hard to picture any way the Raiders could get better on the defensive line.
Maybe in the next couple season the Raiders can move Houston inside and pick up a dominant DE in the first round. But for now I think it’s the one part of the team where the starters are firmly entrenched. Outside of depth, I don’t see D-line as a need for now.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Naw our front 7 aint what they could be. Not stopping run is vital and two UTs wont do the trick…..we signed rich now dump kelly draft a fat ass NT and rotate 4 guys…..hendu sey and drafted guy plus desmond bryant
February 25th, 2011 at 11:24 am
Well it’s understandable that you W fans don’t understand grown man baskerball.
Perkins was healthy enough to turn Gasol into Gasoft. His scoring and rebounding were secondary. He was the type of player that Gasoft didn’t even want to play against.
OKC with their 3 BIGS is the only team out there I see running with the Lakers in a 7 game series. Gun to my head I’d pick OKC in 6 vs the Lakers right now.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:25 am
VR…..its almost march madness! ima need ur vegas odds knowledge to assist me!……hopefully mizzo ugets a favorable bracket
February 25th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Shaq and Jermaine ONeal ????
Talk about your walking wounded. They’ll be out of the league next year on injury retirement.
Gasol is not worried about either of the ONeal brothers. That’s what you are not grasping. The MENTAL advantage Perkins had over Gasol.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:27 am
if we re-sign huff, our defense will be fine…..
February 25th, 2011 at 11:28 am
With Henderson making $4 million this year, I don’t see the Raiders drafting an NT. Especially because of their scheme, which requires the linemen to be pass rushers first. As I said above, this is the reason they have problems stopping the run. An NT here would be little more than a rotational player, like Henderson.
Best bet would be to find a freak of a player who can do both. Phil Taylor from Baylor comes to mind, but he’s almost certainly going to be gone in the top 20 picks.
I’m still hoping for Ian Williams or Kendrick Ellis, but given how highly Al evidently values Henderson, I don’t see it happening.
Kelly did everything asked of him last season. The problem is, they’re just asking him to penetrate and get to the QB, not to occupy blockers and let the linebackers come in to make the tackle.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:28 am
Excuse me? Jhill as it is widely known the basketball acumen in NorCal trumps you people in SoCal by far. Talk basketball with our fans at the game vs yours and we destroy….u even know this bawdy…..and perkins with one good leg cant guard gasol lol….so much for u understanding basketball
February 25th, 2011 at 11:28 am
BIG BBBbbbaaaauuuuuccccee!!!
February 25th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Huff really wants to test the open market. Don’t know if Al is willing to shell out the money that Jerry Jones might be…
February 25th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Gun to my head I’d pick OKC in 6 vs the Lakers right now.
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Do you even watch the games????
February 25th, 2011 at 11:30 am
now dump kelly
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DUMP ????
LUNACY!
What do you mean by dump?
1st rd pick? Sure let’s “dump” him, lol.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Jhill how did the Lakers beat boston last year? Offensive boards! They outboarded beantown…..with Shaq you think they gonna get outboarded now? Be serious
February 25th, 2011 at 11:30 am
Do you even watch the games????
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LOL!
February 25th, 2011 at 11:31 am
The Real Ray in the house! Ray tailgate again bruh this year! Gonna be even more awesome!
February 25th, 2011 at 11:32 am
What about tonights game vs the Clippers?
Lakers -10.5
February 25th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Jhill….dump kelly for Happy Hour at Chicken n Waffles
February 25th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Wisconsin OT Gabe Carimi bench pressed 225 pounds 29 times at the Combine.
It’s a terrific number for a tackle with over 35-inch arms. NFL teams have questions about Carimi’s athleticism in evaluating him at left tackle, but he’s got plenty of strength and length to be a day-one starter on the right side.
Source: Shawn Zobel on Twitter
February 25th, 2011 at 11:33 am
Jhill….dump Kelly for a few free drinks at Chicken n Waffles
February 25th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Celtics won’t get past Miami or Chicago.
Not even worried about the Celtics or any team from the East.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Dump Kelly for one of these thick azz hookers on E-14
LMAO
February 25th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Bauce, if we have a season!
But if we do….it’s on like Donkey Kong!!
February 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Did Carimi play RT in college??
If so, draft him and play him immediately at RT!!!
Without our in-house O-line guru anymore, enough of this moving guys around business.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am
Jhill i understand ur anger……Lakers getting old, kings may be in anahiem, dodgers not worth much,and chargers may be in LA. I’d be pissed too
February 25th, 2011 at 11:36 am
Backpage than Craigslist??
February 25th, 2011 at 11:37 am
What happened to my symbols???
Oh well…DMAC started talking hookers and got me thinking…..
February 25th, 2011 at 11:37 am
Jhill boston may not get past east finals i totAlly agree….but to assume no one in east can beat LA is pure insanity
February 25th, 2011 at 11:38 am
VR….what ya think about ncca’s this season
February 25th, 2011 at 11:40 am
I think I am way off my game.
Just hope Mizzou doesn’t get a #5 seed. 12’s win those games at over 40% of the time.
BYU and SDSU are the only guys on the whole West Coast who can maybe make the elite 8 (AZ is a fraud).
And Nolan Smith of Duke would make a great Warrior.
That’s about all I got.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Damn, too bad my son is too little to go check out the monster truck show.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:41 am
Is grave digger still around?
February 25th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Wednesday night on espn2 Justin Graham pg for Sj state broke my uncle’s all time assist record……no matter Mike Jr will ball in tournament
February 25th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Dmac i may go to that on sunday lol
February 25th, 2011 at 11:43 am
Beginning of the season, having a rookie MLB in the game cost us in the run D.
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LOL!
JFB = ROMAC hater or just honest?
February 25th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Toughest team the Lakers could face in the playoffs is OKC. They get past them, downhill from there. Bynum gets injured, things change.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Well VR….espn bracketology has mizzou as 6th seed which i wouldnt mind….big game tomorrow morning at K state…..really need to run table and beat texas and ku in big 12 to get a 3 seed
February 25th, 2011 at 11:45 am
Our run D will be just fine
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Jhill,
since when? 2002?
February 25th, 2011 at 11:46 am
chicken and waffles sound really good right now…lol
February 25th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Toughest team the Lakers could face in the playoffs is OKC.
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Lakers wont beat the Spurs or Mavs in 7. this is 2011
Heat & Celtics have handled L.A. pretty well this year too. not worried about the East? bwahahahahaha
February 25th, 2011 at 11:47 am
Jhill….lakers matchup bad if they play portland in first round…..to even dismiss boston and miami is crazy……u know better
February 25th, 2011 at 11:47 am
The Bears will get to Carimi before the Raiders can.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I dont see spurs beating LA….who gonna guard Kobe?
February 25th, 2011 at 11:48 am
chicken and waffles sound really good right now
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I would normally co-sign this, but I’m on lunch break and just finished an orange. and a ham & turkey sandwich. wash it down with some good ol’ fashioned H20
February 25th, 2011 at 11:48 am
Portland ????
Ur reeeching!
February 25th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Hwnrdr….i was at chicken n waffles last nite jack london style…..getting slizzerd
February 25th, 2011 at 11:49 am
who gonna guard Kobe?
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who ???
February 25th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Ya’ll need to stop talking this non-sense.
The Dubs are coming for that 8th seed.
Holla!
lol
February 25th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Roscoes House of Chicken and Waffles is the shiz-nittlebam snip-snap-sack!!!
http://www.roscoeschickenandwaffles.com/
February 25th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Reaching? Jhill go look at portland vs LA the last few seasons…..portland gives them hell and even smart Laker fans know this
February 25th, 2011 at 11:51 am
372.General Bauce Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 11:48 am
I dont see spurs beating LA….who gonna guard Kobe?
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Who’s going to gaurd him on Dallas’ team?
Chandler won’t be able to play Bynum and provide that help defense.
Kidd is not going to hit career highs in 3s 4 games outta 7.
Lakers will beat Dallas in 5.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Ur reeeching!
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speaking of reaching, what combine freak will Al Davis develop a man crush on this week?
February 25th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Dmac…..i hope we beat atl 2nite cuz next 7 is a east road trip
February 25th, 2011 at 11:51 am
Yeah, haven’t been to Jack London in a while! Does sound really good though!
Rockstar…I know, I can’t really eat too much of that these days, but…
February 25th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Ok, B.
It’ll be an exciting 4 game sweep. All the games will be won at the buzzer or in OT.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:52 am
DMAC Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 11:50 am
Ya’ll need to stop talking this non-sense.
The Dubs are coming for that 8th seed.
Holla!
lol
I can actually see that happening…
February 25th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Lakers will beat Dallas in 5.
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Avery Johnson coaches the Nets now!
Dallas will beat L.A. in 6
February 25th, 2011 at 11:53 am
speaking of reaching, what combine freak will Al Davis develop a man crush on this week?
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As long as he controls himself until the 4th rd again the year, it could be whoever he wants.
If we can get another Jacoby Ford in rd 4, I’m all for it.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Lol jhill….who gonna guard dirk for LA? exactly….who plays pg for lakers agaisnt kidd and company? Chandler plays excellent defense bruh. Kidd will continue to bang 3 pt shots……….lakers in 7
February 25th, 2011 at 11:54 am
to note: I am a Lakers fan also…been one since ‘79 when they drafted Magic! However, they will get a chnace to defend the title, but it’s going to be much harder! Also, if they win or lose…they’ll always be around! Kobe’s getting older, but…never count him out!
February 25th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I hate Jason Kidd almost as much as Kobe Bryant …
February 25th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I doubt warriors gonna pass up memphis now that they got battier
February 25th, 2011 at 11:56 am
It’s going to be interesting to see who we pick in rd 2 and 3 this year. Say what you want about WHO was picked the past few years, but there is no arguing the POSITION picked was one of need.
OL was CLEARLY an area of weakness last year.
HAS to be our first pick in the draft this year.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Jason Kidd<—–from Oakland….hall of famer multiple all star…..whats there to hate
February 25th, 2011 at 11:57 am
J Kidd = Baller
February 25th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Still putting in work in the league.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:58 am
Its friday! i wonder where will i be getting kicked out of tonite?
February 25th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Who’s Dirk going to guard? Gasol?
Dirk will be working to hard of D to put up anything significant. He won’t outstat his man. We win the PF matchup.
February 25th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Burn it DMAC!
February 25th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
OL was CLEARLY an area of weakness last year
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Jhill,
OL has CLEARLY been an area of weakness for more than 5 years!
it sucked before Gallery & Grove were drafted by Norv Turner and it has sucked ever since
February 25th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Llol how do u win PF matchup? Gasol cant guard Dirk….dirk will outscore him for sure and not like Gasol will put up 30 a game. No u dont win that. What about gasol being drawn from basket? Hurts board wise
February 25th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
386.RaiderRockstar Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Lakers will beat Dallas in 5.
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Avery Johnson coaches the Nets now!
Dallas will beat L.A. in 6
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Yes!!!! Nothing guarantees Laker victories better than a Rockstar proclamation!
February 25th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
# General Bauce Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 11:59 am
Burn it DMAC!
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You gotta wait till after work.
3:10PM
February 25th, 2011 at 12:03 pm
Oline better get a road grading RT who doesnt suck at pass protection….need a brute stout center and need big pulling guards
February 25th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
Tom Cable fixed the OL run blocking with his trash heap zbs grunts, but the pass pro & penalties have killed any chance of a passing offense
2011 will be interesting with Cable out and 4 new OL starters!
February 25th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I dont think mavs can beat LA….maybe but the kobe factor at the end of games is the problem
February 25th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
RRs i agree
February 25th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Al Davis likes Mario Henderon, Bruce Campbell, Jared Veldheer. Pretty sure 3 of those guys will be starting for us next year.
February 25th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
the kobe factor
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Who ???
February 25th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Al will sign Plaxico Burress to a 2 year $22 million dollar deal, and after Plaxico sucks in 2011 because he doesn’t have his legs back yet, Al will buy him out of the final year of his contract only to watch him go to another team and explode back onto the scene.
February 25th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I hate Jason Kidd almost as much as Kobe Bryant …
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I hate Kevin Garnett, Sam Cassel, Rojon Rondo, Paul Pierce, Lebron James, Reggie Miller, and Dikembe Mutombo Mpolondo Mukamba Jean-Jacques Wamutombo!!!!
February 25th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Anyways Bauce bout to get his weekend started
February 25th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Just read this in the paper 2day. There has been 9 players at the combine since 1999 who have timed under 4.3 seconds for the 40-yard dash. Four of them- CB’s F. Washington(4.25), S. Routt(4.28), and WR’s DHB(4.25) and J. Ford(4.28).
Who’s the speedster this year? Might be one of Al picks.
February 25th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Ray…watch out u just named all black players….Kell coming for ya lol
February 25th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Remember the name Ricardo Lockette. Al’s 4th round pick…
February 25th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
I can’t stand b!tch azz KG!
Someone needs to knock his azz the fk out!
February 25th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Al Davis likes Mario Henderon
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Super Mario lost his starting job to a rookie. kid played college ball for Hillsdale for pete’s sake and even though his play wasn’t perfect, it was much better than anything we ever got from Henderson.
Veldheer is not going to play Center after Hue Jackson talked him up like a 10 year starter at LT in the press conf
Mario is a restricted free agent who lost his starting job and his agent is Drew friggin Rosenhaus. He’s a goner. Al Davis talked up JaMarcus before too, remember?
February 25th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
General Bauce Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Ray…watch out u just named all black players….Kell coming for ya lol
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LOL….dude 98% of the NBA is African-American!
KK could lick the poop off the bottom of my shoes!
Who cares what he thinks!
February 25th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Agree with ray.
Can’t stand Sam Cassel & Reggie Miller!
February 25th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
LT – Veldheer
LG – 2nd rd pick
C – FA
RG – Campbell
RT – Henderson
February 25th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
What FA is going to come in at C, JHill?
February 25th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
To everyone who keeps saying Routt gives up too many PI calls, Vito Tafur just got back to me with his research and he says Routt was only flagged 5 times last year for PI. One PI every third game aint bad at all for a bump and run corner.
Still say he isnt worth $10 million a year, but he certainly has the stats to say he is a top 5 CB in the NFL.
February 25th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RR, whats up?? Been busy?
February 25th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Ya’ll remember when Kobe got fired on by….
I think it was Cris Childs (could be wrong)
That schit was funny as hell
February 25th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
RT – Henderson
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the knock on Mario is his run blocking!
Al Davis talked him up for zero sacks allowed against Seymour, Gaines Adams & Mario Williams in 2008, right?
yet he somehow proved to be awful in pass protection in 2009 as well (most sacks allowed in the league)
February 25th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
If you want a RT thats already on the roster you’re looking at Barnes, Walker or Campbell … but I’d be very surprised if Carlisle isn’t cut for big Bruce Campbell to play in his RG spot
Henderson is soft
February 25th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
whats up?? Been busy?
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ray: yeah man
it’s killin me bro.
work load has increased and it’s gonna keep growing due to a nice little surprise a few weeks back
February 25th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Raiders coach a dirty job? Not to Jackson it isn’t
By Pete Prisco
CBSSports.com Senior Writer
Feb. 24, 2011
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14734725/raiders-coach-a-dirty-job-not-to-jackson-it-isnt
February 25th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
BCZ,
what do you think Routt will look like with CJ37, McFadden or Ware opposite him?
stud, average or toast?
February 25th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
I’m going to leave out w/ this one. Ya’ll remember when Jeff Hornasek (Jazz) got punched in jaw hella hard back in the days?
LMAO
That schit was hilarious
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
Ya’ll have a nice weekend my Raider Nation Bros.
February 25th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
maybe DC Hue Jackson feels the same way I do?
corners are dime a dozen with a team that can stuff the run & rush the passer …
Henderson, Seymour & Wimbley retained.
Huff & Asomugha about to walk
without #21? Hue says “dont sweat it. just re-sign Stan”
result? Davis gives him a bloated Top 10 CB contract
February 25th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
back to the grind.
CYA gents!!
February 25th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
BCZ,
what do you think Routt will look like with CJ37, McFadden or Ware opposite him?
stud, average or toast?
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Truthfully, I think if Nnamdi leaves Routt will be the guy who only sees 36 or so attempts per year. So I think he will appear to be a stud, much like Nnamdi does. Now Im not saying that Nnamdi isnt a great CB, I just wonder what his stats would look like if he were tested 100 times a year… Better or worse than Routt?
February 25th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
What up Dmac, nation!?
What was McFaddy’s 40 time at the combine?
February 25th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
BCZ,
what do you think Routt will look like with CJ37, McFadden or Ware opposite him?
stud, average or toast?
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Truthfully, I think if Nnamdi leaves Routt will be the guy who only sees 36 or so attempts per year. So I think he will appear to be a stud, much like Nnamdi does. Now Im not saying that Nnamdi isnt a great CB, I just wonder what his stats would look like if he were tested 100 times a year… Better or worse than Routt?
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Will Routt play RCB or LCB or will he follow the others teams best receiver all around the field? Isn’t true that Aso saw so few balls b/c he played only one side of the field? But usually, didn’t Revis always line up against the teams best WR no matter where the WR lined up (exception I can think of was Welker and Pats/Jets playoff game)?
February 25th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Way to go Rockfeller! Make the owners open the books to the Union.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6158810
February 25th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
Thank gosh we have this Routt guy…the super secret great CB that no NFL GM, coach or player has ever publicly mentioned as a threat…to replace Nnamdi, whom every NFL GM, coach and player considers to be a top 3 CB.
And we got this Routt guy for a few million less than it would have taken to sign Nnamdi!
Yesssss! I feel better about next year already!
Now, if we could just unveil the best secret TE in the NFL….BRANDON MYERS! He deserves $7.5 million a year, and will easily replace Zack Miller.
I mean these guys are the backbone of this wonderfully successful franchise! Thankfully Al is willing to spend the money to keep this group together and keep those winning ways on track!
February 25th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
322. Who didn’t? You mean by the Titans 2,000 yd rusher? By the Super Bowl appearing Steelers? By the Jags leading rushing team in the League?
February 25th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
424. The knock on Mario is his Christian lovey dovey attitude. Sometimes he plays, sometimes he gets the tempo dictated to him.
February 25th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
We’ll have to see how he looks in camp but if Oakland brings in Ocho that may not be a good sign for DHB’s future.
Then again maybe the vet could help him out.
WR going to remain a ?
February 25th, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Man, they finally send Jerry to the Combine, and he’s not doing a damned thing.
February 25th, 2011 at 2:01 pm
KK I am sure he is doing something……like eating the free food
February 25th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
According to a recent story in the National Football Post, there have been nine players at the combine since 1999 who have timed under 4.3 seconds for the 40-yard dash. Four of them — cornerbacks Fabian Washington (4.25) and Stanford Routt (4.28) and wide receivers Darrius Heyward-Bey (4.25) and Jacoby Ford (4.28) — were drafted by the Raiders. No other team picked more than one sub-4.3 player during that span.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_17478006
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If speed kills in the NFL, why aren’t the Raiders killing?
February 25th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
`Coach’ Davis as dominant as ever
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I knew it!
February 25th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Cable: We had Raiders ‘going in right direction’ By Vic Carucci
Published: February 25th, 2011 | Tags: Tom Cable, 2011 NFL Scouting Combine, Oakland Raiders, Seattle Seahawks
INDIANAPOLIS — Tom Cable said Friday that he’s happy in his new job as assistant head coach and offensive line coach of the Seahawks.
But Cable remains proud of what he did as head coach of the Raiders, with whom he had a 17-27 record (including a 4-8 mark as interim coach in 2008) before being fired after an 8-8 finish in January. He’s also appreciative of the support he has received from several of his former Raiders players.
“We had it going in the right direction,” Cable said at the NFL Scouting Combine.
Now, working in Seattle allows the California native to be near Snohomish, Wash., where he attended high school, and he’s thrilled to be part of the high-energy atmosphere that Pete Carroll began building when he took over the Seahawks’ helm last year.
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Po little Cable Boy. Being “not losers anymore” got him a knew job. It also showed Mr. Cable who wears the pants in that family. Now he is Als’ ex.
February 25th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Po little Cable Boy. Being “not losers anymore” got him a knew job. It also showed Mr. Cable who wears the pants in that family. Now he is Als’ ex.
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Do you Davis stooges EVER think about winning?
February 25th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
220.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Dakota, they’re talking about Three And a Half Men on the local news here in Sacramento, it’s the top story, over the middle east and Wisconsin protests.
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That’s because Dick Head Charlie Whacked-Out of my Brain and to far Gone Sheen is more relevant to our society and cultural idol worships generated by Hellywood (however if he was a true Raider fan I might feel sorry for the sloth, maybe), so the mid east crisis and rising oil prices can take a back seat. Do you understand that? And the Wisconson protests, that’s Wisconsons problem, til of course it gets to California.
February 25th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
Do you Davis stooges EVER think about winning?
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We just follow the examples of our leader supreme. Al can do no wrong. It’s his team, love it or leave it. He’s doing his best. so you just need to back off from him and give him some space. He can’t grow with you pounding on him all the time.
February 25th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
We just follow the examples of our leader supreme. Al can do no wrong. It’s his team, love it or leave it. He’s doing his best. so you just need to back off from him and give him some space. He can’t grow with you pounding on him all the time.
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The People of the Raider Nation want freedom from our crazy leader.
February 25th, 2011 at 2:38 pm
There’s still more information to gather,” Jackson said. “This is an ongoing process. You go watch more tape, then see them individually and work them out, and then the next thing you know you draft them and then start the next process.”
-Hue Jackson
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I wonder if our GM ever get’s to see individual workouts in person?
That would be important, no?
February 25th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
The People of the Raider Nation want freedom from our crazy leader.
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What really bothered me, but I’m past that now because I can’t do squat about it, was cable did have the team headed in the right direction. When was the last time you saw a Raider team have that kind of explosiveness they had, or play as a team, and Hue was a great right hand man. However, Seabass makes that fg, BG don’t stink it up against the dolphins, and JC don’t wet the bed against SF, we all be singin a different tune. Not quite sure about the meltdown against Jacksonville, and awfully awful against the stealers, BUT, the wheels were moving, so we’ll see if the off-loading pays off. Hopefully Hue has gleened some of cables errors and gets them 11-12-13 wins next season.
February 25th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Maybe Hue is the secrete GM Al knows or doesn’t know about.
February 25th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
I wonder if our GM ever get’s to see individual workouts in person
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Via TV and you tube. Same as being there. I’m sure Al has a big screen.
February 25th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
What NFL team turns over GM duties to Hue Jackson?
February 25th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
I wonder if our GM ever get’s to see individual workouts in person
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Via TV and you tube. Same as being there. I’m sure Al has a big screen.
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Then why do you reckon every other GM in football is at the Combine with field passes?
February 25th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
454.KoolKell Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
I wonder if our GM ever get’s to see individual workouts in person
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Via TV and you tube. Same as being there. I’m sure Al has a big screen.
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Then why do you reckon every other GM in football is at the Combine with field passes?
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I don’t know? Write offs? Their scouting department had an entire season of NCAA football. What more do they need? Al wasn’t at the combine last year but somehow manged a pretty good draft, wouldn’t you agree? I’m tellin ya, these new HD 3D Hi-Def big scrrens are just like being there. Al has it all right from his couch at home, note book at his side, and a cup of hot chocoalte, with out the distraction of everybody invaiding his space, like some here on this blog like to do.
February 25th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
GoodOle00 Says:
February 25th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
We’ll have to see how he looks in camp but if Oakland brings in Ocho that may not be a good sign for DHB’s future.
Then again maybe the vet could help him out.
WR going to remain a ?
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When you have sour milk, make cheese. Convert DHB to a CB. He’s got the size, speed, route knowledge and most passes in his direction hit the ground. What more can you ask from a CB?
February 25th, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Jerry!
To hell with finding crap to write about the effing Whiners….
Where’s OUR Raider fix?
February 25th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Scratch my prevous post from the record…
February 25th, 2011 at 4:01 pm
Raiders rock Go Raiders
February 25th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Hiiiiiiiiiiiii Raiders fan
love the number one raidre fan
February 26th, 2011 at 7:09 am
Thanks Jon Herrera for the propaganda about Stanford Routt. You’re a fricking joke.