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		<title>By: knjigovodstvo fimak</title>
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		<dc:creator>knjigovodstvo fimak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2012 05:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: dcraiderfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcraiderfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2011 07:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We shouldn&#039;t throw major money at these rookies any year.  You must prove themselves right off the bat.  Let&#039;s not repeat the mistake the team made with Russell.  With the CBA, incoming players from the draft should make no more $500k for the first year then once proven.  They get big money.  Given these rookies more than minimum is asking for trouble!  DCRaiderfan recommends it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We shouldn&#8217;t throw major money at these rookies any year.  You must prove themselves right off the bat.  Let&#8217;s not repeat the mistake the team made with Russell.  With the CBA, incoming players from the draft should make no more $500k for the first year then once proven.  They get big money.  Given these rookies more than minimum is asking for trouble!  DCRaiderfan recommends it!</p>
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		<title>By: djohnnyg</title>
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		<dc:creator>djohnnyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 03:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>129.SnB Production Says: 
February 27th, 2011 at 9:24 am 
JFB and Mysitc both bringing up good points on Gannon.

Gannon is not in the same league as Plunkett, Snake because he didn’t get it done. Also, Gannon was a flash in pan in that he was only here for a few years.

However, its undeniable that Gannon was very effective in his brief time in Oakland. He is also the best QB to play in Oakland in 25 years….its not even close.

If not for Gannon and Gruden, Davis’ 25 year record would be an undisputed laughingstock
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Gannon was great, but I hate it when guys point to someone and say &quot;if that guy wasn&#039;t there they wouldn&#039;t have won anything etc.&quot;  Well, with that line of thinking:

-If Brady didn&#039;t go to New England the Pats wouldn&#039;t have won anything.

-If Jordan had not of gone to the Bulls you wouldn&#039;t be talking 6 titles for Chicago.

or..

-If not for Rodgers the Packers wouldn&#039;t have even made the playoffs this year.

Problem is those guys WERE THERE and it is what it is.

Gruden and Gannon WERE THERE and the Raiders DID have some success, and as much as people hate it, it counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>129.SnB Production Says:<br />
February 27th, 2011 at 9:24 am<br />
JFB and Mysitc both bringing up good points on Gannon.</p>
<p>Gannon is not in the same league as Plunkett, Snake because he didn’t get it done. Also, Gannon was a flash in pan in that he was only here for a few years.</p>
<p>However, its undeniable that Gannon was very effective in his brief time in Oakland. He is also the best QB to play in Oakland in 25 years….its not even close.</p>
<p>If not for Gannon and Gruden, Davis’ 25 year record would be an undisputed laughingstock<br />
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Gannon was great, but I hate it when guys point to someone and say &#8220;if that guy wasn&#8217;t there they wouldn&#8217;t have won anything etc.&#8221;  Well, with that line of thinking:</p>
<p>-If Brady didn&#8217;t go to New England the Pats wouldn&#8217;t have won anything.</p>
<p>-If Jordan had not of gone to the Bulls you wouldn&#8217;t be talking 6 titles for Chicago.</p>
<p>or..</p>
<p>-If not for Rodgers the Packers wouldn&#8217;t have even made the playoffs this year.</p>
<p>Problem is those guys WERE THERE and it is what it is.</p>
<p>Gruden and Gannon WERE THERE and the Raiders DID have some success, and as much as people hate it, it counts.</p>
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		<title>By: ohioraider</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohioraider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for what did Gannon accomplish, my Al liccing acolytes?  How about the American Dream?  A stunning late career resurrection against all odds in a league where QB longevity is the exception and not the rule?  How about a guy who won by not tolerating the lax atmosphere Davis let rot the culture of the franchise?  A guy who retired with all his faculties and transitioned into a lucrative announcer gig?

A guy who lived long enough to support his family and who&#039;s not afraid to courageously speak his mind about the rotting culture of this franchise?

No, the question is, why does your pathetic false sense of loyalty to that old coot (unrequited no doubt, unless you&#039;re both ringers) boost your sense of self worth?   And, while you&#039;re at, why don&#039;t you tell everybody what you&#039;ve accomplished?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for what did Gannon accomplish, my Al liccing acolytes?  How about the American Dream?  A stunning late career resurrection against all odds in a league where QB longevity is the exception and not the rule?  How about a guy who won by not tolerating the lax atmosphere Davis let rot the culture of the franchise?  A guy who retired with all his faculties and transitioned into a lucrative announcer gig?</p>
<p>A guy who lived long enough to support his family and who&#8217;s not afraid to courageously speak his mind about the rotting culture of this franchise?</p>
<p>No, the question is, why does your pathetic false sense of loyalty to that old coot (unrequited no doubt, unless you&#8217;re both ringers) boost your sense of self worth?   And, while you&#8217;re at, why don&#8217;t you tell everybody what you&#8217;ve accomplished?</p>
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		<title>By: ohioraider</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohioraider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># The Real MaddenRaider Says:
February 26th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

Rich Gannon has the most pass completions in Raiders’ franchise history.

Gannon has the most passing yards in any single season; 4,689 passing yards in 2002.

Gannon is the second all time passer in Raiders’ history, with 17,585 yards, only second to Ken Stabler.

I would put Jim Plunkett above Rich Gannon for his two Super Bowl victories, but on any given Sunday, Gannon was a better bet than Plunkett. The numbers don’t lie.

Gannon is the 3rd best Raider quarterback in franchise history, for all intents and purposes, when you round it all up.

He is easily the best QB to wear the silver and black since Jim Plunkett, and is arguably the Raiders’ most valuable player since Bo Jackson.
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Amen.  But Al az liccing apologists Mystic1 and Priesttj are loathe to give anybody outside their fallen mythical hero credit for the early 2000&#039;s.  You guys are fugin pathetic.  Gannon singlehandedly whipped that offense into shape, instilled discipline, and willed that team into elite status.  There hasn&#039;t been anything close to that much-needed type of leadership since he and Gruden left.  Grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># The Real MaddenRaider Says:<br />
February 26th, 2011 at 9:55 pm</p>
<p>Rich Gannon has the most pass completions in Raiders’ franchise history.</p>
<p>Gannon has the most passing yards in any single season; 4,689 passing yards in 2002.</p>
<p>Gannon is the second all time passer in Raiders’ history, with 17,585 yards, only second to Ken Stabler.</p>
<p>I would put Jim Plunkett above Rich Gannon for his two Super Bowl victories, but on any given Sunday, Gannon was a better bet than Plunkett. The numbers don’t lie.</p>
<p>Gannon is the 3rd best Raider quarterback in franchise history, for all intents and purposes, when you round it all up.</p>
<p>He is easily the best QB to wear the silver and black since Jim Plunkett, and is arguably the Raiders’ most valuable player since Bo Jackson.<br />
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Amen.  But Al az liccing apologists Mystic1 and Priesttj are loathe to give anybody outside their fallen mythical hero credit for the early 2000&#8217;s.  You guys are fugin pathetic.  Gannon singlehandedly whipped that offense into shape, instilled discipline, and willed that team into elite status.  There hasn&#8217;t been anything close to that much-needed type of leadership since he and Gruden left.  Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Ceramic Elephant Figurines &#124; JOHNSON BROTHERS COLLECTIBLES</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ceramic Elephant Figurines &#124; JOHNSON BROTHERS COLLECTIBLES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 20:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mistic1 Tha Supavillain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mistic1 Tha Supavillain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jfb,
 adversity is being down 24-3 to to the defending sec &amp; national champion crimson tide in Tuscaloosa. One of the greatest games I have ever seen a college qb play, all guts &amp; mind  boggeling talent.  

Pointing out 2 ints doesn&#039;t even come close to defining his season. He put up very impressive numbers (int / td), was a ferocious competitor &amp; put his team on his back on several occasions.  

Best qb in this draft and it isn&#039;t even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jfb,<br />
 adversity is being down 24-3 to to the defending sec &amp; national champion crimson tide in Tuscaloosa. One of the greatest games I have ever seen a college qb play, all guts &amp; mind  boggeling talent.  </p>
<p>Pointing out 2 ints doesn&#8217;t even come close to defining his season. He put up very impressive numbers (int / td), was a ferocious competitor &amp; put his team on his back on several occasions.  </p>
<p>Best qb in this draft and it isn&#8217;t even close.</p>
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		<title>By: YoungAmerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>YoungAmerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess Lockette has been in there, I just managed to miss him somehow.

Either way, would not surprise me to see him or Gates be late-round picks for the Raiders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess Lockette has been in there, I just managed to miss him somehow.</p>
<p>Either way, would not surprise me to see him or Gates be late-round picks for the Raiders.</p>
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		<title>By: YoungAmerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>YoungAmerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ricardo Lockette and Edmund Gates ran 4.37.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricardo Lockette and Edmund Gates ran 4.37.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Fire Baby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Fire Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kapernick did not look good throwing the drills earlier today.

Was high and outside on more than a few of the throws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kapernick did not look good throwing the drills earlier today.</p>
<p>Was high and outside on more than a few of the throws.</p>
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