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Raiders’ influence on CBA

The last time the owners and players union were this close to a labor stoppage, Al Davis stepped in with Paul Tagliabue and former Raider Gene Upshaw and helped negotiate an agreement.

This time around, with Upshaw having passed away and Roger Goodell as commissioner, Davis has been content to watch the labor negotiations play out from the sideline.

But Davis is still capable of shaking things up, and while no one’s talking on the record at the scouting combine in Indianapolis, rest assured there is plenty of grumbling about the impact of the Raiders’ spending spree.

Fellow owners are trying to argue that they’re simply not making enough money and that the economic model doesn’t work. It becomes a much tougher sell when a franchise ranked by Forbes magazine as the 31st most valuable team in the league and the lowest season-ticket base (22,000) in the NFL goes on a spending spree before the start of the new league year.

So far, Davis has spent guaranteed $22.5 million to defensive tackle Richard Seymour in a deal that could net $30 million over two years. Cornerback Stanford Routt, coming off his best year but through six years not considered among the elite at his position, has a $20 million guarantee and $31.5 million over three years (although I’m told there’s a roster bonus in there the Raiders would have to pay).

Oakland planned on paying outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley approximately $4.1 million this season including a $3.5 million buyback in the deal originally negotiated by the Cleveland Browns. When the deal was disallowed by the league for violating the “30 percent rule” for raises in an existing contract, Davis simply committed another six million dollars and made Wimbley a franchise player.

There is also a report of the signing of defensive tackle John Henderson to a two-year deal _ it’s been reported at both $4 million and $8 million _ but I’ve yet to see if the deal is backloaded in big way or carries guaranteed money.

Unless Oakland is gambling that a CBA won’t allow players to be unrestricted free agents after four years, don’t be surprised if Zach Miller gets a megadeal making him among the NFL’s highest paid tight ends. Free safety Michael Huff could also cash in.

The Raiders are driving up the price players league wide as well as their own, and the more players he signs to big money, the harder it will be for his fellow owners to complain about their share of the financial pie.

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  • SnB Production

    69.TerrapinRaider Says:
    February 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am
    Where are you guys getting this touchdown given up stat on Routt? 29 sounds a bit far fetched, happy countin’ don’t you think?

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    Not Routt. The entire defense gave up 29 pass TDs.

    With Nnamdi giving up zero

    Just want to know how the defense gets better losing all pro players and not adding anyone and also possibly losing a FS that finally started playing ball.

    I don’t drink kool-aid anymore

  • SnB Production

    I am not impressed with this spending spree. Only Richard Seymour deserved the big money

  • SnB Production

    New Corner Back — most likely CJ or Walter McFadden
    New Free Safety — most likely Eugene
    New Tight End — Brandon Myers?
    New Left Guard — Draft pick

    And no upgrades to any position (as of yet).

    Now I admit that once the CBA is signed, they might go make some moves…..but overpaying Henderson, Routt and Wimbley by multiple millions each doesn’t give you many options.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Al is spending money like he has an extra $17 million dollars this year and no first round contract to worry about.

    Wish he could have spread it a little more, but it is what it is.

    Whether this team makes the playoffs or not will not depend on whether Routt is making 10 million or year or not.

    It will be on stopping the run and getting something better than average QB play.

  • SnB Production

    29 pass TDs are quite a lot.

    Jacksonville and Miami games the pass defense got scorched.

    I really hope that Routt, Johnson and McFadden can maintain because the run defense in Oakland won’t improve and the offense will continue to struggle because as a franchise they don’t know how to stop the run and until they get a real wide receiver and better QB play

  • SnB Production

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 26th, 2011 at 10:08 am
    Al is spending money like he has an extra $17 million dollars this year and no first round contract to worry about.

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    Like I said before, restructure DHB’s contract and let Gallery walk and give the surplus to Asomugha

  • TerrapinRaider

    73.TerrapinRaider Says:
    February 26th, 2011 at 10:11 am
    MHuff commented via twitter that he didn’t expect the Raiders to use the franchise tag (and they would not have if not for some stupid rule, and lawyers not knowing that rule when drafting the initial contract for Wimbley) and he expects Miller & Bush to be back because they would be RFAs. He thinks they are going to let him and Gallery test the open mkt with talks open to coming back to Oakland.

  • TerrapinRaider

    I think Routt is officially at 5TDs given up (but 1 may not have been his but Branch’s).

    Heck Branch may have given up 10 by himself

  • dbaz09

    The Megadeals are the act of an old desperate man who knows he can’t take the money with him. Davis doesn’t care about the long term fiscal health of the organization, the rest of the league or the fans. He wants a ring now and we’re all too familiar with the results from Davis’ short term approach…

    One stat bear mentioning: 3 winning seasons in the last 17 years (w/ Gruden teams). And what did Al say about Cable not being a winner?

  • DKnight007

    48.Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 26th, 2011 at 7:30 am
    One thing to know about replacing Cooper Carlisle.

    Of course, he really struggled in pass protection at times. This is pretty well-known, and he struggles (although who doesn’t I would argue) against the elite Power D-lineman.

    But he has missed one start in 4 years, and once went a whole season in Silver & Black without a penalty, had 3 penalties last season, and 9 in 4 years.

    So as far as stability and penalties, he is without a doubt the most consistant of our O-linemen in this regards.

    Bruce Campbell might have more penalties in the first month or so of the season as Carlisle had in 4 years.

    ^^^^^^^
    Agreed. Big Bruce might have more penalties in a month, than Carlise would have had the whole freakin year.

    Scary.

  • DKnight007

    I keep thinking old man Al keeps paying guys like T Kelly and Routt big time money, when they are not worth it….just to maybe screw with other teams free agents and jack up the market price….or is it just an old man who falls for agents and their old parlor tricks?

    Probably a combination of both.

    Ugh

  • DKnight007

    If the Raiders draft a CB or a FS with their first pick in the 2nd Round of this years draft….I’m gonna be pissed.

  • DKnight007

    If the Raiders want to add POWER and ATHLETICISM to that O-Line, then they may want to take a heavy look at TCU OT MARCUS CANNON!

    He would start right away at RG and can probably be a BEAST at RT!

  • RaiderDebo

    Just Fire Baby Says:
    February 26th, 2011 at 10:08 am
    Al is spending money like he has an extra $17 million dollars this year and no first round contract to worry about.

    Wish he could have spread it a little more, but it is what it is.

    Whether this team makes the playoffs or not will not depend on whether Routt is making 10 million or year or not.

    It will be on stopping the run and getting something better than average QB play.
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    If we want better than average QB play, better get better than piss-poor receiver play and pass pro.

  • Toyz

    Are offence scored enough to win games dispite avrg.QB and piss poor receivers….Its are defence that needs to stop the F’ing Run!!!

  • GoodOle00

    Davis is a genius

  • MEX_GHOST

    If Davis is a genuis, then no matter the money he spends, cause he knows what he´s doing. What matters is…… Just win baby!!

  • MEX_GHOST

    Well, we can call Al Davis a genius, just a spendthrift genuis.

  • GoodOle00

    9. History says no. Davis has always paid big buck s and been a players owner.

    Not his fault Marcus Allen refused to become the highest paid RB ever. Is Davis’ fault he made Terdell Sands the highest paid fat guy at the time

  • olinesux

    keep on going al….show those fools how its done…

  • Carl Weathers

    Toyz is a genius.

    Al Davis is a players owner, this is his way of getting all players some extra scratch. In the long run they will be thankful to Davis over the course of the next 5 years and in turn be willing to join the dynasty that is the Raiders, once again!

  • Just Fire Baby

    Here is the NFL combine right-up on Wiz 2.0 on NFLN:

    Wisniewski comes from a football family and has the versatility to be a quality backup at the next level. He has great football intelligence, quickly recognizes stunts and blitzes and is rarely caught out of position. However, he lacks the lower body strength to generate a consistent push in the running game and will not thwart the bull rush in the NFL. He played guard early in his career and can line up at all three interior offensive line positions. Wisniewski has the smarts to make up for his lack of strength and will likely be a mid to late round pick.

  • RaiderRetribution

    Raiders need their Linebackers to stop the run!

    We need to stop holding the DBs accountable for the LBs responsibilities.

  • HayesDaze37

    It’s a great, chilly day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

  • YoungAmerican

    2) OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State), OLB Mason Foster (Washington), or CB Curtis Brown (Texas), or OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin)

    3) OLB Quan Sturdivant (North Carolina), OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida), OG/OT Marcus Cannon (TCU), or C Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU)

    4) FS Robert Sands (West Virginia), OLB Casey Matthews (Oregon), or CB/FS Marcus Gilchrist (Clemson)

    5) CB Davon House (New Mexico State), C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock), or FB Henry Hynoski (Pitt)

    6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas) or WR Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)

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    Try to re-sign: Miller (RFA), Bush (RFA), Gallery, Reece (RFA), Mario Henderson, Satele, Bryant (RFA), Barnes, Loper, and Condo.

    Huff wants to test the FA market, but seems open to coming back for the right offer.

    Possible FA targets:

    CB Richard Marshall or Eric Wright
    OT Jammal Brown or Jared Gaither
    WR Santana Moss
    TE Matt Spaeth
    FS Jarrad Page (if Huff walks)

  • HayesDaze37

    Depending on who is available at the time (and who we still have yet to pick-up/lose), I’d like our first 4 draft picks to be:

    OL, DL, WR, QB…

    In whatever order gets us the players we want.

    Other priorities remain DB and RB…there are never enough good ones on a team, and there are a few mid-to-late round gems to be had, like every year.

  • GoodOle00

    23. It is and always has been the offenses job to help the D stop the run.

    If they put up enough points, if they control the clock, they save the D from exposure.

    The way the Raiders line up and play means big run plays are going to happen.

  • HayesDaze37

    Pretty good, YA…but I’d be aiming for D-line help a lot sooner than the 6th!

  • GoodOle00

    We’ll have to see if KELLEN HEARD can contribute

  • HayesDaze37

    With the right addition of a quality proven, HEALTHY, player at WR, and I’d be fine picking up one or three as undrafted FA’s to try out…I’d rather not see us spend a draft pick @ WR at all this year.

  • HayesDaze37

    Wouldn’t bug me at all to spend all but two draft picks on O/D-linemen…in that case, the other two picks being QB and RB from Round 3 or later.

  • CMon Man

    Raiders need to throw that cash on Sidney Rice

  • CMon Man

    and stay away from Cam Newton. He, like Brady Quinn and some of these other guys…already locking up endorsement deals and talking about being an icon and all that b.s before attending 1 NFL practice

  • GoodOle00

    32. Uh, nooo…

  • HayesDaze37

    Sidney Rice…Santana Moss…Chad O’Johnson…Plax??

    Yes, if one of those guys comes along…and stays out of trouble…the O is instantly improved.

    And it would save us a draft pick!

  • GoodOle00

    33. After Marinovich and He who shall not be named I wouldn’t worry about Oakland trying to draft Cam Newtron

  • HayesDaze37

    We go nowhere near Kim Newton, or anywhere near that kinda $$ for a rookie QB ever again.

  • RaiderDebo

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/26/ryan-mallett-on-drug-rumors-obviously-someone-did-that-for-a-reason/
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    Ask stupid questions, expect answers like this. Love this guy already. Hope we move up to get him.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Didn’t anyone else just see the Live Cam Newton interview at the combine?

    I would say he failed his first blitz pick-up.

    That was awful.

  • RaiderRetribution

    Doublezero

    I don’t want to mention, read, type that QB’s name either.

  • Just Fire Baby

    One of the scribes seemed to imply that he heard reports of Cam stealing from others players lockers at Florida.

  • r8rwill

    kellen heard is in buffalo

  • YoungAmerican

    # HayesDaze37 Says:
    February 26th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Pretty good, YA…but I’d be aiming for D-line help a lot sooner than the 6th!

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    In past mocks I’ve had the Raiders taking Ian Williams in the 4th round, but given that they’ve already extended Henderson with a pretty sizable contract, I just don’t see it as very likely.

    DL depth should definitely be something the Raiders look into, especially at DE.

  • CMon Man

    Stop the run..stop giving up long 3rd down passes…and develop a competent passing game.

    Those are the three things the Raiders need to focus on.

    They still need help in all three areas

  • RaiderDebo

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/26/cam-newton-explains-icon-quote-then-sounds-like-a-star/
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    Hmmmm. Not quite what I expected from the talking heads after JFB’s rant.

  • Just Fire Baby

    Did you even watch the interview?

    Comes out with a canned apology that was written for him.

    Than dropped some Mark McGwire “I’m not here to talk about the past” than just fell apart mumbling at the very end.

    NFLN of Mooch, Casserly and Lombardi were not impressed.

  • RaiderDebo

    Your fascination with all this stuff baffles me. Does it even matter to you that he walked onto the Auburn campus and led them to an undefeated national title (something Tebow never did) and won the Heisman trophy in the same season? That he displayed all the skills necessary to be a star at the position on tape and during his media workout? That he, unlike Gabbert, will compete during the throwing drills at the combine? Nobody has a clue how any of these guys will do in the pros. But if any of them deserve the benefit of the doubt, Cam Newton does. The pelts he has on the wall along say so.

  • dickv

    The Raiders over paid Tommy Kelly in 2008 and he panned out to be as capable of a player as they thought. The Raiders will have a hard time signing FA’s because they are in CA period. The fact that there has been so much dysfunction only makes it harder. The end of the day the Raiders will have to over pay to acquire talent in FA. If they feel they have capable players in house like Wimberly, Seymour, Zach Miller, and Routt then they are wise to over pay them.

    Those players have put their time in, and they know the deal. To an extent it hards to turn the corner on all the loosing with not turning over the roster from time to time, but they could very well be paying the players that deserve the $, and getting rid of the players that don’t put the work in and earn their $: Jamarcus, D Hall, Jerry Porter, Terdell Sands, J walker, Randy Moss, Lamont Jordan…etc.

    I thought Kelly was a mistake. I still question his heart, but the guy did get a lot of sacks this season for DT. Rout is similar/ same line of thinking as Kelly, so why are people so surprised.

  • priesttj

    Cam Newton isn’t a diplomat, what a shocker!! What he is is a very good football player and a good enough kid the rest doesn’t matter.

  • dickv

    Congrats to Al Davis for giving the rest of NFL the finger once again. Whether they like him or not, he was one of the founding fathers of the NFL that pioneered the way to all the big $. Shame on the new gaurd for not paying homage to one of the few visionaries that are left. Al Davis proves he should be consulted, and his opinion/ voice should be heard regardless of how relevant they think he is… What happens in Oakland is always Relevant, and people talk either way( usually mostly bad, but they are talking)