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No chance at Jordan, but Cameron a possibility

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, February 28th, 2011 at 3:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Barring some kind of deal to move up in the draft, Cal defensive end Cameron Jordan will be long gone by the time the Raiders pick in the NFL draft.

Jordan Cameron, however, will be there possibly into the draft’s final day, and he’s got the kind of pedigree which catches the eye of Al Davis.

He’s also the kind of athletic, versatile tight end Davis loves, and he also comes from USC _ one of his favorite schools (although there is that annoying Lane Kiffin thing to consider).

As it has been explained to me by a Raiders talent evaluator (and keep in mind that the entire coaching staff joins in with the personnel department in this process at the combine), one of the things they’re always on the lookout for is a varied athletic background. Did he play basketball in high school and college? Participate on the track team?

It’s not necessarily going to be a huge factor, but it could sway a decision one way or the other if two prospects are close. Someone who has played other sports may be quicker to adjust to a much faster game, it speaks to competitive spirit and could make for a more explosive athlete down the road.

The Raiders have only two tight ends at the moment who will be under contract when a collective bargaining agreement is reached, pending a deal with Zach Miller _ Brandon Myers and Kevin Brock.

Logic suggests the Raiders will keep Miller through a new contract or invoking a tender if that option exists under a new CBA. But only Al Davis knows for sure. Miller has a concussion history, had sports hernia surgery a year ago and a bad foot, and health is a major factor when doling out huge dollars.

Even if Miller is still on the roster as expected, he and Myers are similar players. What’s missing is more of an explosive, downfield type threat _ someone who can bring to the position what Marcel Reece has to fullback.

Nevada’s Virgil Green (6-3, 249) has generated a lot of buzz for his athletic ability, was third-best among tight ends at 4.64 in the 40-yard dash and hada 42.5 inch vertical leap. He may be taken earlier than the Raiders want to fill the tight end position. The fastest tight end Florida Atlantic’s Rob Houshler (6-5, 248) at 4.58, who like Green has the basketball-track background in high school.

Cameron is intriguing because he’s 6-5, 249 pounds, ran the 40 in 4.59 and followed it up with a 37.5 inch vertical leap. He’s a converted wide receiver and started his college career playing basketball at BYU before transferring to USC.

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  • Silverandblack666

    MR

    What the hell are you talking about all I have posted today were anti Tebow and anti Kim Newton rants.

    Your slow today

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    666, you’ve participated in the race discussion earlier as much as anyone. If you don’t like politics here, don’t participate when people are going there. That would be my advice.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Brien, where’s Bob? I miss his beautiful smile.

  • General Bauce

    Lol MR nice try….u cant spin this one….good try to take my statement and blatantly lie….something u do alot on here……the prop 8 thing was in reference to you but the usual b-tch in ya will try and fail to deflect it. MR u are beyond suspicion….now i was only joking with Kell about being a h0m0….but u everyone knows u are an iceskater

  • Silverandblack666

    when you are potentially a top 5 draft prospect and a QB……you better be eating crapping and talking football all day long.

    If you suggest that you wold like to use your NFL career as a stepping stone to Celebrity status then you are not concerned with the task at hand which is FOOTBALL!

    It shows a lack of commitment and a lackadaisical attitude towards the game.

    Period how else can this be interpreted?

  • General Bauce

    Wow MR u really driving home this thing with men’s smiles…..gosh seems like we gonna have to try and hire a pro again to get u in the sack with a bz

  • General Bauce

    666 bingo!

  • Silverandblack666

    MR

    No I separated myself from the topic by this post #446 on the last page

    “I hate Tebow just as much as I hate Kim Newton and for different reasons….

    I can find 100’s of reasons to hate on someone other than their skin color…its not that hard.”

    Read it you tard!

  • General Bauce

    Before being an icon how about take ur team to postseason? win roy? go to pro bowl? is that asking too much?

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    B.S. it’s just a cheap excuse for character assassination.

    Muhammad Ali got the same treatment when he opened his mouth.

  • RaiderDuck

    Meanwhile, Vernon Gholston just got canned by the Jets. This might have been a worse pick than JaMarcus:

    JaMarcus’s 3-year TD total: 18

    Vernon’s 3-year tackle and sack total: 18
    (18 tackles, ZERO sacks)

  • Silverandblack666

    Just ask MR about Grudens smile

    He has a man crush on Mr Gruden

    Probably even has a few of Grudens pubic hairs in his teeth

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    666, you don’t separate yourself from the topic by participating in it. You separate yourself from it by ignoring it and scrolling right past it. Dumbass.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    There’s a certain group of americans who like their black men, servile and deferential.

  • General Bauce

    666….no use….MR take after women when debating…..just make up schit

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    # Silverandblack666 Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Probably even has a few of Grudens pubic hairs in his teeth

    …………

    Not funny. Not even to glue sniffing 10 year olds.

  • Silverandblack666

    KK

    The country was divided on a war in Vietnam and Ali took a political stand, agree with it or not.

    How in the hell can you compare that to Kim Newton wanting to be a celebrity?

    Take your meds old man!!!

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Seriously, Brien, where’s Bob? This place is so much less comical without him.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    More of 666 “separating himself” from the off topic, unnecessary political discussion in here:

    # Silverandblack666 Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    KK

    The country was divided on a war in Vietnam and Ali took a political stand, agree with it or not.

    How in the hell can you compare that to Kim Newton wanting to be a celebrity?

    Take your meds old man!!!

  • General Bauce

    Muhammad Ali? Kell come on old dude! So what u are saying is white people havent changed on the issue? Why are u married to a white woman again?

  • Silverandblack666

    Oh its funny MR

    whats even funnier is your lack of journalism skills.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    666 is discussing more politics today than anyone. Just review the day’s comments.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Uh, I’m not a journalist, 666. Therefore I’ve never desired said “journalistic skills”.

  • mack-madden

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    when you are potentially a top 5 draft prospect and a QB……you better be eating crapping and talking football all day long.

    If you suggest that you wold like to use your NFL career as a stepping stone to Celebrity status then you are not concerned with the task at hand which is FOOTBALL!

    It shows a lack of commitment and a lackadaisical attitude towards the game.

    Period how else can this be interpreted?

    $$$$$$$$$$

    ummmm Racist???
    (J/K)

    it seems to be the word of the day today.

    All too often it is the word of the day on here.

  • General Bauce

    MR from what I know he is in Florida……less comical? MR you are a riot all by yourself….but i cant lie BHP still the best when he gets pissed lol

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    And, seriously, 666, talk of Gruden’s pubes is never funny. A bunch of 10 year olds on detention would have just looked at each other and sighed at that. It’s not funny, to anyone, really.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    What’s he doing in Florida? Is he well? He was a little out of it the last time I saw him on here. He was funny, but it seemed like something serious was going on with him. Just hope he’s ok, that’s all.

  • General Bauce

    Mack Madden it sure is bruh……just lets ya know we got deep issues in America no matter what side of the argument u are on

  • General Bauce

    MR from what I know him and his wifey there doing their vacation bit……not like shhhht is crackin in Norcal right now. Cal sux and so do the W’s

  • General Bauce

    Anyhow….time to get drunk……Bauce Outro

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    KK

    The country was divided on a war in Vietnam and Ali took a political stand, agree with it or not.
    ————————————–
    Nuance is lost on you isn’t it? When Ali first came on the scene, speaking his mind, he was i-m-m-e-d-i-a-t-e-l-y hated!

    Before he took his Vietnam stand which came AFTER he became champion.

    But you’re talking schit you don’t know as usual. I doubt you were around. Only wannabe punks of another generation, would have a 666 in “it’s” handle.

  • mack-madden

    No matter what the issue.

    Race is ALWAYS a factor.

    Everyone knows its true, but most dont admit it because they scared.

    with that said…

    Cam Newton comments will scare teams away NOT BECAUSE he is BLACK.

    It will scare teams away beacause HE PLAYS QUARTERBACK.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    kell, let’s just talk Raiders and ignore 666′s attempts to ignite a political discussion.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    I was talking Cam Newton & Media.

  • YoungAmerican

    2) OT/OG Benjamin Ijalana (Villanova), OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State), OG/OT Marcus Cannon (TCU), OLB Mason Foster (Washington), OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin), or CB Curtis Brown (Texas)

    3) NT/DT Jarrell Powe (Ole Miss), C Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU), OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida), or OLB Quan Sturdivant (North Carolina)

    4) FS Robert Sands (West Virginia), OLB/DE Dontay Moch (Nevada), DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame), OLB Casey Matthews (Oregon), or CB/FS Marcus Gilchrist (Clemson)

    5) CB Davon House (New Mexico State), C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock), or FB Henry Hynoski (Pitt)

    6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas) or TE Jordan Cameron (USC)

    7) WR Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State) or QB Josh Portis (California PA)

    —————

    Attempt to re-sign: Miller (RFA), Bush (RFA), Reece (RFA), Satele, Bryant (RFA), Barnes, Loper, Mario Henderson, and Condo.

    Huff and Gallery will test the FA market. Huff seems open to coming back, but only for the right offer.

    Possible FA targets:

    CB Eric Wright or Richard Marshall
    OT Jammal Brown or Nick Kaczur
    TE Matt Spaeth
    FS Jarrad Page

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    I’ve only seen him play one time in that National Championship game. I guess he’s a Teabow type QB. Dude was lowering his shoulders on lineman and linebackers.

    But he’s really only played 1 year. Those guy’s don’t do well in the NFL.

  • CanuckRaider

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  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    New game. Figure out what name CanuckRaider was using earlier.

  • CanuckRaider

    Oops…Sorry…Just missed Kell’s last post. If you’re talking about Newton I saw the same thing. Didn’t impress me at all. Weak QB crop this year.

  • CanuckRaider

    RMR: I just came in with the snoozy post.

  • SnB Production

    I really hope the Raiders aren’t trying to replace Zach Miller. He is the best receiver on the team….he is also the best TE on this team in 25 years.

    Stop with the doggone devotion to athleticism over football smarts. 40x got us DHB, while about a dozen other receivers drafted that year have outperformed him. Who takes a receiver in the top 10 for their blocking prowess.

  • M Lonetree

    my gawd, it’s the KiffinRaider/KK show.
    what a friggin’ surprise.
    honing your skills for an episode of the Real Housewives of Rancho Cordova are ye?
    what a disgrace ye both are to call yerselves “Raider fans”.
    perhaps in another life in another realm on another planet you’ll find something else to do other than to be pi%%-ants.
    Raider on the rest of ye.

  • SnB Production

    I still think the defense is going to be the achilles heel of this team next year.

    A starting lineup of Routt, CJ, Eugene and Branch won’t concern a single QB or opposing O.C.

    Raider offense better score A LOT of points next year

  • CanuckRaider

    Agreed SnB. Signing Miller is a must. No more “athletic” projects.

  • SnB Production

    Coupled with a run defense that is still missing a big run stuffer up front……and can’t stop the run (big plays or not!)

  • CanuckRaider

    OLB and the backfield are the main worries on D right now.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    I’m pretty sure Al thinks he’s making a Super Bowl run this year. Hence he’s taken over the Defense.

  • CanuckRaider

    You’re scaring me again KK.

  • SnB Production

    94.CanuckRaider Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    Agreed SnB. Signing Miller is a must. No more “athletic” projects.

    =====================================================
    I just don’t get it CanuckRaider. All the doggone busts over the decades and still devoted to players that are huge reaches or can’t play.

    Zach Miller is a very good player. Why are the Raiders looking to jettison their best football players (Miller & Asomugha) for scrubs and high flying risks.

    I still don’t buy that this secondary is going to be ANY good without Asomugha….losing Miller will make the offense completely one dimensional (DMAC) with our hopeless wide receiver situation

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    football stars are celebritites, whats the issue?