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No chance at Jordan, but Cameron a possibility

Barring some kind of deal to move up in the draft, Cal defensive end Cameron Jordan will be long gone by the time the Raiders pick in the NFL draft.

Jordan Cameron, however, will be there possibly into the draft’s final day, and he’s got the kind of pedigree which catches the eye of Al Davis.

He’s also the kind of athletic, versatile tight end Davis loves, and he also comes from USC _ one of his favorite schools (although there is that annoying Lane Kiffin thing to consider).

As it has been explained to me by a Raiders talent evaluator (and keep in mind that the entire coaching staff joins in with the personnel department in this process at the combine), one of the things they’re always on the lookout for is a varied athletic background. Did he play basketball in high school and college? Participate on the track team?

It’s not necessarily going to be a huge factor, but it could sway a decision one way or the other if two prospects are close. Someone who has played other sports may be quicker to adjust to a much faster game, it speaks to competitive spirit and could make for a more explosive athlete down the road.

The Raiders have only two tight ends at the moment who will be under contract when a collective bargaining agreement is reached, pending a deal with Zach Miller _ Brandon Myers and Kevin Brock.

Logic suggests the Raiders will keep Miller through a new contract or invoking a tender if that option exists under a new CBA. But only Al Davis knows for sure. Miller has a concussion history, had sports hernia surgery a year ago and a bad foot, and health is a major factor when doling out huge dollars.

Even if Miller is still on the roster as expected, he and Myers are similar players. What’s missing is more of an explosive, downfield type threat _ someone who can bring to the position what Marcel Reece has to fullback.

Nevada’s Virgil Green (6-3, 249) has generated a lot of buzz for his athletic ability, was third-best among tight ends at 4.64 in the 40-yard dash and hada 42.5 inch vertical leap. He may be taken earlier than the Raiders want to fill the tight end position. The fastest tight end Florida Atlantic’s Rob Houshler (6-5, 248) at 4.58, who like Green has the basketball-track background in high school.

Cameron is intriguing because he’s 6-5, 249 pounds, ran the 40 in 4.59 and followed it up with a 37.5 inch vertical leap. He’s a converted wide receiver and started his college career playing basketball at BYU before transferring to USC.

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  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    besides my spelling

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    KoolKell Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    I’m pretty sure Al thinks he’s making a Super Bowl run this year.

    ……….

    LOL. No way. He can’t be that crazy.

  • CanuckRaider

    Agreed SnB but let’s wait and see what happens with Miller and Aso. AD might ink both of them yet. He’d better.

  • CanuckRaider

    Signing Huff would be nice too. He was just starting to come into his own.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    I would do the whole zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz thing right now myself, but I prefer a more mature way of letting someone know they’re boring, so I’ll leave Canuck alone.

  • YoungAmerican

    The Cowboys are letting Sensabaugh walk… expect them to be in play for Michael Huff’s services.

  • SnB Production

    103.CanuckRaider Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
    Agreed SnB but let’s wait and see what happens with Miller and Aso. AD might ink both of them yet. He’d better.

    =====================================================
    Hopefully he does. Otherwise we will get a full weekly helping of Brandon Myers and Chris Johnson….or some rookie getting torched by below average QBs

  • CanuckRaider

    Ouch. That would have really hurt if I cared RMR. I guess football’s boring compared to hissy fighting eh?

  • CanuckRaider

    SnB: Yeah, that is a scary thought. Let’s hope for the best.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    I was hard on huff but he was much better at the end of the year. i still enjoyed seeing brown getting some run though

  • RaiderDebo

    SnB Production Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    I really hope the Raiders aren’t trying to replace Zach Miller. He is the best receiver on the team….he is also the best TE on this team in 25 years.

    Stop with the doggone devotion to athleticism over football smarts. 40x got us DHB, while about a dozen other receivers drafted that year have outperformed him. Who takes a receiver in the top 10 for their blocking prowess.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Being the best receiver on the this team ain’t sayin much.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    We were talking football before you got here, Canuck, just more interesting aspects of football.

  • SnB Production

    If the Raiders go with a “weaker” secondary…they better ratchet up the production in the front 7…stopping the run and forcing advantageous down and distance…also more pressure on the QB and different looks.

    Chris Johnson or Walter McFadden full-time will not work by itself…and Routt (I am still not convinced)

  • SnB Production

    111.RaiderDebo Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Being the best receiver on the this team ain’t sayin much.

    ===================================================
    True…but Miller is actually a good TE from a league perspective. The Raider receivers haven’t done jack in years…losing Miller would all but shutdown the passing game

  • CanuckRaider

    Jury’s still out on Brown but he has potential for sure. You can’t teach that instinct for being around the ball. I’m looking forward to seeing what McFadden can do in year two as well.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    I just don’t get it CanuckRaider. All the doggone busts over the decades and still devoted to players that are huge reaches or can’t play.
    ———————————
    Believe it or not, Davis once said he was a fan of Hitler, tactically.

    As such, like Hitler, I think be believes in absolutes, Ht Wt Speed.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    Jeremy ware looked really good in pre season, and even better vs the chiefs, i would love to see him get more run.

    After the pitt game buffalo butt cable benched him in a panic move trying to save his own hide.

    Davis clearly was upset that the youngsters didnt get on the field enough. cable became the don nelson of football

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Ask Tim Brown, or any other black Raiders’ player from Notre Dame, just what Al meant by admiring Hitler “tactically”.

  • CanuckRaider

    Don’t know if Ware’s got the wheels to play CB in the league. Seemed to get toasted deep a lot. Maybe he was just biting too much but he looks a bit slow to me.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Canuck, they have something for that, it’s called zone coverage. If he can cover in the short field he’s serviceable on every team but the Raiders.

  • SnB Production

    Preseason or spot starts mean nothing. We are talking about late round guys who haven’t done anything of note except flash a play in preseason against other young inexperienced players that don’t play come regular season.

    You build the team with a core of stars, solid veterans and a couple of high performing young players.

    Ware, McFadden and the others can’t be considered realistic choices to start without expecting a SIGNIFICANT drop off.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    canuck,

    ware has got speed to burn, he was victimized by is aggressive style. he did exactly what you said he bit on double moves, but experience will help that.

    i like the kid he plays with a chip, and he is really good in bump and run, seemed to also have very good ability to make plays on the ball in the air.

    i actually think next to area 21 he was the best corner on the team

  • CanuckRaider

    Hitler was just a two-bit thug who knew how to play a perfect political storm to his advantage. As for tactical warfare, Manstein and Rommel were the real geniuses for Germany.

  • Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

    snb,

    All rookies will be up and down, but he was awesome in the kc game, deserved more playing time.

  • CanuckRaider

    Maybe Mistic. Hope you’re right. Let’s just hope there’s a season this year.

  • http://www.pro-football-reference.com/ KoolKell

    By accounts, Al Davis is a War Historian.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Oooh, don’t get into a world history debate with this guy.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Proof Hitler was the real genius for Germany.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO7rF_XbI6Y

  • CanuckRaider

    RMR: Yeah, and that’s why he threw everything at Stalingrad against his top generals’ advice instead of going for Moscow which would have effectively finished Russia. Read “Hitler And His Generals” if you want an inside look at German military strategy. Actual transcripts from their conferences from 1942-’45.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    The evidence to back up my point is right there, in comment 128.

  • CanuckRaider

    Ditto the book I just mentioned among other sources.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Your book doesn’t hold a candle to my evidence, trust me. Click on it if you haven’t.

  • CanuckRaider

    Somehow I’ll take actual transcripts of Hitler and his top generals’ conferences over Youtube.
    I’ll leave you with this:
    “The thousand year Reich lasted 12 years and 3 months. Caveat emptor.”

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    OK, Canuck. You’re missing out on an important aspect of world history. I think you’d be impressed with some of the research in this short video. But some people only like one side of the story…their side. Suit yourself. I’d rather be open minded and consider all takes.

  • CanuckRaider

    RMR: Just checked the vid out. Hilarious! Into the favs file for sure. The footage is from the awesome German language flick “Downfall”. Bruno Ganz nailed Hitler to a tee. Good one!

  • CanuckRaider

    Oh yeah, guess you got me.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Well, you sort of walked right into it with your serious approach to this discussion.

  • CanuckRaider

    Yeah, the door hit me right in the melon. Check out “Downfall” if you haven’t seen it. Wild movie. The subtitles are a tad different though. Later Nation…

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    This is a Raider blog, Canuck. So I’ll stick to discussing the downfall of Al Davis.

    See you in a few minutes, under a different name.

  • CanuckRaider

    You just caught me RMR. I only post under CanuckRaider. No reason to do otherwise. I stand or fall on my comments as you’ve just seen.

  • TerrapinRaider

    Not a bad post at all Jer ..pretty good …pretty intriguing

  • TerrapinRaider

    What if ZM has really slowed down (although he is already pretty slow for sure) due to that nagging foot injury on top of his past history. Could be a short-lived played at a high level.

    ZM is a very good TE; but if we can do better why not draft him? BUT I wouldn’t just get rid of ZM. This guy will back up ZM who I’ll put on a 2-3yr deal if he agrees and groom this guy behind him and see what he’s got.

  • TerrapinRaider

    ZM’s injury history is another reason why they shouldn’t throw big money his way. He good, but everything has a limit.

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Oh, come on, Canuck. We both know what other name you post under. (you gave it up with your first comment)

  • http://www.raiders.com/ r8eray

    Wow….damn near 100 posts dedicated to KK???

    Seems like that old man has got some fans in here!

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    LOL. Canuck lives!

  • ArchiveTony

    Tell us again, maddenraider, about how you work swing shift?
    Wouldn’t that kinda be now?

  • http://www.aldavissucks.blogspot.com The Real MaddenRaider

    Yeah, Tony. I work 365 days a year, no day off, like everyone else. Sharp detective skills.

  • ArchiveTony

    # r8eray Says:
    February 28th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Wow….damn near 100 posts dedicated to KK???

    Seems like that old man has got some fans in here!
    ==================
    First off, saying “damn near” means you counted.
    Tell me you aren’t that pathetic.

  • ArchiveTony

    Well, madden, seems many state you live with mommy, unemployed, with zero social skills.
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but you post here every day?
    all day? all night?
    how’s that job thing work, when you never seem to leave your chair, or this blog?