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How Seymour compares to previous No. 17s

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, March 1st, 2011 at 12:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.

If the Raiders don’t trade back in to the first round of the draft, they can be expected to take the public stance that their pick that round is Richard Seymour.

Seymour arrived in 2009 in exchange for New England’s first-round pick, Al Davis is on record of considering it a great trade, and he backed up that assertion with a two-year extension for the defensive tackle with $30 million, $22.5 million guaranteed.

If no collective bargaining agreement is reached before Friday’s deadline, the only way Oakland will be able to trade back into the first round is by using other picks to either this draft or future drafts. Player movement will not be allowed during a lockout.

2010_Mike Iupati, G, Idaho, (49ers)
2009_Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas City (Bucs)
2008_Gosder Chelius, T, Boston College (Lions)
2007_Jarvis Moss, DE, Florida, (Broncos)
2006_Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa (Minnesota)
2005_David Pollack, LB, Georgia (Bengals)
2004_D.J. Williams, LB, Miami (Broncos)
2003_Bryant Johnson, WR, (Cardinals)
2002_Phillip Buchanon, CB, Miami (Raiders)
2001_Steve Hutchinson, G, Michigan (Seahawks)
2000__Sebastian Janikowski, K, Florida State (Raiders)
1999_Damien Woody, C Boston College (Patriots)
1998_Brian Simmons, LB, North Carolina (Bengals)
1997_Kenard Lang, DE, Miami (Redskins)
1996_Reggie Brown, LB, Texas A&M (Lions)

DRAFT NOTES

Keep an eye on Tennessee-Chattanooga cornerback Buster Skrine (pronounced `Screen’) at any point after the second round for the Raiders. Skrine clocked a 4.29 in the 40-yard dash, and Oakland has taken four of the previous nine sub-4.30 performers at the combine since 1999 (Fabian Washington, Stanford Routt, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford), according to the National Football Post.

Skrine holds the school record at Chattanooga at 4.22 and is a two-time all-Southern League choice who can bench press 360 pounds and has a 35-inch vertical leap, according to his bio on CBSsports.com via NFLdraftscout.com

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616 Responses to “How Seymour compares to previous No. 17s”

  1. KoolKell Says:

    @DavyJones

    Woodleys AV numbers are way higher than Wimbleys.
    You keep bringing up the Rooneys in response to me. A little advice, Don’t do it.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoodLa99.htm

  2. RaiderRockstar Says:

    2002_Phillip Buchanon, CB, Miami (Raiders)

    ***

    thanks Jer!

    This actually does make me feel better about trading for Seymour and making him the highest paid defensive player in the league …

    I remember Tim Brown saying “Phillip giveth and Phillip taketh away” , LOL

  3. El Tato Says:

    more busts than stars in that 17th picks

  4. RaiderRockstar Says:

    2000__Sebastian Janikowski, K, Florida State (Raiders)

    ***

    Al Davis took A LOT of heat for this selection, but now that he’s the Raiders all-time leading scorer … can we really complain?

    the Raiders were a good football team in 2000, 2001 & 2002!

  5. KoolKell Says:

    I would imagine Skrine couldn’t cover his arse with a blanket.

  6. RaiderRockstar Says:

    2007_Jarvis Moss, DE, Florida, (Broncos)

    ***

    how long is Al going to hold on to this guy just to try and stick it to Shanny?

    He’s not going to beat out Wimbley, Groves, Houston or ShoNasty!

  7. YoungAmerican Says:

    It’s a shame, because the guys who best fit what the Raiders do in the secondary (Burton, Curtis Brown, Davon House) didn’t run sub-4.4 40s.

  8. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BBL gents!

  9. YoungAmerican Says:

    I think Moss is an adequate backup, but nothing more. I don’t think Houston or Shaughnessy are in danger of getting their starting spots taken away by him.

  10. YoungAmerican Says:

    Curtis Brown looked really good out there today.

    They showed Rod Woodson in the stands taking notes. Hopefully if Al is set on taking a CB, Rod can convince him to take one of these big-time physical corners, even if they only ran a 4.5.

  11. HairyBush Says:

    Seymour is worth the pick!

  12. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Someone should remind Al Davis that the NFL is pleading poverty.

    Not that the Oakland Raiders owner would care.

    In the past eight days, the Raiders have signed three players (cornerback Stanford Routt and defensive tackles Richard Seymour and John Henderson) to short-term contracts totaling a reported $69.5 million. A fourth — outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley — will collect another $10 million or so in 2011 after being tagged Thursday as Oakland’s franchise player (FOXSports.com NFL writer Adam Caplan broke the story). Tight end Zach Miller also could be in line for a mega-deal before becoming an unrestricted free agent.

    Davis has spent like Charlie Sheen on a bender as the NFL continues to tell its players union that salaries must be reduced in the next Collective Bargaining Agreement because the current financial model doesn’t work.

    Roger Goodell now knows exactly how the late Pete Rozelle felt when having to deal with Davis.

    Davis also did what he wanted when Rozelle was NFL commissioner. That included moving the Raiders from Oakland to Los Angeles in 1982 and successfully suing the league for $18 million as part of an antitrust lawsuit. Davis was involved in other litigation against the league as well, even testifying on behalf of the United States Football League in the mid-1980s.

    This recent spate of signings isn’t as radical, but these contracts are doing the league’s CBA negotiating team and other NFL franchises no favors.

    The NFL executives I spoke to Thursday at the scouting combine in Indianapolis were aghast at Oakland’s moves. Start with the Routt deal. By guaranteeing him $20 million over the next two years, the Raiders have driven up the asking price of every other good-but-not-elite cornerback set to hit the free-agent market pending a new CBA — let alone the departing Nnamdi Asomugha.

    Last year, Davis signed his punter (Shane Lechler) and kicker (Sebastian Janikowski) to record-setting contracts. Even long-snapper Jon Condo cashed in with a $1.68 million salary in 2010 — a ridiculous sum for a player at that position.

    These types of curious decisions have a trickle-down effect across the entire league. They are what the late NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw called “salary drivers.” Other clubs are forced to spend more when trying to re-sign their own players or add free agents at certain positions because of the comparisons made to some of Oakland’s big-money contracts. The deals also are figured into the league averages that determine the annual salaries for tagged franchise and transition players.

    From a fiscal standpoint, what the Raiders are doing makes little sense. Oakland has a storied history and rabid fan base, but Forbes Magazine ranked the 2010 Raiders as the NFL’s 31st-most valuable franchise ahead of only the Jacksonville Jaguars. The club’s estimated value of $758 million was down by five percent from 2009 because of a lousy stadium-revenue situation that shows no signs of improving. Davis also has done himself no favors financially with costly acquisitions in recent years who didn’t pan out like wide receiver Javon Walker, cornerback DeAngelo Hall and quarterback JaMarcus Russell. The latter collected almost $40 million in guaranteed money as the 2007 draft’s top overall pick before washing out of the league after three seasons.

    Davis is now taking his “Just win, baby!” mantra to a whole new level. At 81 years old and in failing health, Davis has become increasingly desperate to recapture his franchise’s glory days. Coming off Oakland’s first non-losing season since 2002, Davis clearly figures keeping veterans like Seymour, Routt, Henderson and Wimbley in the fold will be money well spent.

    Maybe that shall be proven so. In the meantime, Davis has undermined the league’s CBA argument about spiraling team costs through his freewheeling approach. Until a new labor deal is reached, there is the very real possibility that the 2011 season ultimately will be canceled.

    That’s something Davis will remember if he never gets a return on his investment.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/oakland-raiders-al-davis-undermining-fellow-owners-with-big-signings-022411

  13. YoungAmerican Says:

    I think Seymour is worth it if only because of what he brings to the team in terms of leadership. He’s a high character guy who is nasty on the field, and is an invaluable resource to the young guys on the defensive line.

    Nobody the Raiders could pick at #17 would bring what Seymour does to the locker room.

  14. KoolKell Says:

    Routt’s not worth it, Wimbley’s not worth it.

  15. GoodOle00 Says:

    9. Though injured with a busted hand Moss showed some promise as saurprise surprise and edge rusher. Burned agaisnt the run a couple tikmes but wouldn’t count him out as a situational guy.

    Raiders look like they’ve got talent at DE with Houston, Nasty and Seymour. It’d be great if Moss can contribute

  16. GoodOle00 Says:

    13. Exactly!

    Short memories on some in here. WE had one of the pwrst attitude loser mentality teams in history a few short years ago thanks to Moss, Sapp, Kiffin ect ect

  17. YoungAmerican Says:

    There’s plenty to criticize Al Davis over. But I can’t really fault him for prioritizing the Raiders over solidarity with the other owners. To hell with the other owners. The priority SHOULD BE taking care of your own team’s needs.

    What I can definitely fault him for is spending a ridiculous amount of money on guys like Routt and Henderson, and to a lesser extent (at least I can understand the reasoning slightly more) Wimbley. Certainly, it’s Al’s money, but if he’s truly disappointed with an 8-8 result in 2010, he should be saving money to make moves that actually IMPROVE the team. Not bringing back players who were part of a season that evidently he was displeased with.

    Of course, it seems like Tom Cable took the fall for that.

  18. GoodOle00 Says:

    This new E 39 electronic shirt they’re unvieling at the Combine is the latest invasive tech developed byu our military and yet another subversive way they are trying to erode our privacy.

    Clothes that monitor everything about you.

    Who needs the mark of the beast when your cell phone, facebook and now your clothes monitor everything about you.

    How soon will it be b4 they cook up a reason to use these things against us?

    WAKE UP

  19. GoodOle00 Says:

    17. You can blame Cable for Miami and the bye week Steeler disaster yes you can.

  20. KoolKell Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    There’s plenty to criticize Al Davis over. But I can’t really fault him for prioritizing the Raiders over solidarity with the other owners. To hell with the other owners. The priority SHOULD BE taking care of your own team’s needs.
    ————————————
    Then maybe the league should do away with Revenue Sharing and put Al’s ass out of business?

  21. GoodOle00 Says:

    Al’s been in business long before revenue sharing and long before there even WAS a Leauge.

    He knows exactly what he’s doing by setting the bar “too high”

  22. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Young American, what happens to that money if there isn’t a season? These are veteran players. Al will still be obligated to either pay them, or cut them and take penalties, if a year goes by and they don’t look as sharp in training camp. I think the point of the article is that he wants to believe Al’s doing this as sort of a “Raiders against the world” thing, but in actuality Al is just senile and doesn’t know what he’s doing.

  23. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Good point, Kell. It’s funny to hear Al’s supporters mock revenue sharing. Without it, there are 31 teams in the NFL, then there’s…well, just 31 teams. I don’t know what’s in the water in Alameda, but for some reason they just can’t grasp reality over there.

  24. anthonyraiders Says:

    Al will run the team any way he wants and us raider fans are just along for the ride. My only hope is that jackson is a savior coach like gruden and someone falls in our lap either in draft or free agency that can lead a team like gannon. The raiders will never be a team with a set plan on how to run a balanced team. We are the lottery team that gets lucky about three years every ten. Hopefully those three years start this year.

  25. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Young American, what happens to that money if there isn’t a season? These are veteran players. Al will still be obligated to either pay them, or cut them and take penalties, if a year goes by and they don’t look as sharp in training camp. I think the point of the article is that he wants to believe Al’s doing this as sort of a “Raiders against the world” thing, but in actuality Al is just senile and doesn’t know what he’s doing.

    _____________________________________________________

    Wrong! These contracts do not have signing bonuses, they are only paid the contracts once the regular season starts.

    http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20110301/WIRE/103011072/1010/SPORTS?Title=Raiders-contracts-without-bonuses

  26. GoodOle00 Says:

    12. First oif all ufck FOX. They are the rights propaganda machine and its obvious they are on the side of the billionaires boys club.

    2ndly lmfao blaming the upcoming strike on Al Davis.

    He knows these owners are liars and greedy pigs. Pigs who want to perpetuate their unrealistic growth model as long as they can before destroying the game altogether.

    18% pay cut.

    2 more games.

    Will not disclose their books.

    Ya damb right theres a strike coming but its clearly NOT Al Davis’ fault.

  27. GoodOle00 Says:

    25. Y.A. doesn’t know what he
    ’s talking about.

  28. GoodOle00 Says:

    25 – 27. Sorry I Y.A. I meant of course, RMR

  29. YoungAmerican Says:

    # GoodOle00 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    17. You can blame Cable for Miami and the bye week Steeler disaster yes you can.

    ————–

    No doubt. Although I think the Steelers game would have been a loss regardless. It still shouldn’t have been that ugly. The team never really seemed to recover after that.

  30. GoodOle00 Says:

    We should’ve been better coming off the bye and with their O line fielding 2nd and 3rd stringers.

    Ugly.

    Just brutally ugly.

  31. YoungAmerican Says:

    Then maybe the league should do away with Revenue Sharing and put Al’s ass out of business?

    —————-

    Maybe they should, but there are several teams that would be negatively impacted if revenue sharing was stopped.

  32. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    anthonyraiders Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Al will run the team any way he wants and us raider fans are just along for the ride.

    …………..

    Yeah. The Raiders should put that on their season ticket advertisements.

  33. KoolKell Says:

    GoodOle00 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Al’s been in business long before revenue sharing and long before there even WAS a Leauge.
    —————————–
    Get a clue from somewhere.

  34. KoolKell Says:

    Dennis Janson of WCPO-TV in Cincinnati reports that Palmer recently told a confidant, “I will never set foot in Paul Brown Stadium again.” (Of course, if Palmer plays for a team that plays at the Bengals, then he will.)

    Palmer reportedly added: “I have $80 million in the bank. I don’t have to play football for money. I’ll play it for the love of the game but that would have to be elsewhere. I’m prepared to live my life.”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/01/report-carson-palmer-claims-hell-never-set-foot-in-paul-brown-stadium-again/

  35. buckeyeraider Says:

    Kell,
    I hope the NFL never does away with their revenue sharing plan. That is one of their strong points and what has made the league as popular as it is. Everybody is on relatively equal footing. Even the Buffalo Bills or egads, evil Al Davis’ Raiders have hope.

    I hope it doesn’t become like MLB with the Yankees and the KC Royals. a 250 million dollar payroll vs 30 mil.

    Not in the NFL’s best interest, IMO.

    Although some of the newer breed owners are all for it. I read Jerry Jones was livid that Mike Brown named the new stadium after his late father, instead of trying to bleed every last naming right dollar.

  36. YoungAmerican Says:

    I hope it doesn’t become like MLB with the Yankees and the KC Royals. a 250 million dollar payroll vs 30 mil.

    ———

    Agreed.

  37. KoolKell Says:

    General Electric
    Boeing
    Citigroup
    Exon Mobile
    Bank of America

    Paid ZERO Federal Taxes

    http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/26/main-street-tax-cheats/

  38. KoolKell Says:

    I hear ya Buckeye. Just saying.

  39. KoolKell Says:

    Though Al Davis could be likened to a welfare mom spending Food Stamp money on Courvoisier.

    I haven’t heard that analogy from any of my conservative Davis bootlickers, yet.

  40. KoolKell Says:

    GENERAL ELECTRIC: In 2009, General Electric — the world’s largest corporation — filed more than 7,000 tax returns and still paid nothing to U.S. government. They managed to do this by a tax code that essentially subsidizes companies for losing profits and allows them to set up tax havens overseas. That same year GE CEO Jeffery Immelt — who recently scored a spot on a White House economic advisory board — “earned total compensation of $9.89 million.” In 2002, Immelt displayed his lack of economic patriotism, saying, “When I am talking to GE managers, I talk China, China, China, China, China….I am a nut on China. Outsourcing from China is going to grow to 5 billion.”

  41. KoolKell Says:

    BOEING: Despite receiving billions of dollars from the federal government every single year in taxpayer subsidies from the U.S. government, Boeing didn’t “pay a dime of U.S. federal corporate income taxes” between 2008 and 2010.

  42. YoungAmerican Says:

    Boeing also just got a $35 billion contract from the federal government. How’s that for fiscal responsibility?

  43. KoolKell Says:

    BANK OF AMERICA: In 2009, Bank of America didn’t pay a single penny in federal income taxes, exploiting the tax code so as to avoid paying its fair share. “Oh, yeah, this happens all the time,” said Robert Willens, a tax accounting expert interviewed by McClatchy. “If you go out and try to make money and you don’t do it, why should the government pay you for your losses?” asked Bob McIntyre of Citizens for Tax Justice. The same year, the mega-bank’s top executives received pay “ranging from $6 million to nearly $30 million.”

  44. KoolKell Says:

    WELLS FARGO: Despite being the fourth largest bank in the country, Wells Fargo was able to escape paying federal taxes by writing all of its losses off after its acquisition of Wachovia. Yet in 2009 the chief executive of Wells Fargo also saw his compensation “more than double” as he earned “a salary of $5.6 million paid in cash and stock and stock awards of more than $13 million.”

  45. KoolKell Says:

    House Republicans voted in lockstep this afternoon to protect corporate welfare for Big Oil, even as they call for draconian cuts to programs that everyday Americans depend on each day. As the House of Representatives moved toward approving a stopgap resolution to avert a government shutdown for another two weeks, Democrats offered a motion to recommit that would have stripped the five largest oil companies of taxpayer subsidies, saving tens of billions of dollars in taxpayer funds. The motion failed on a vote of 176-249, with all Republicans voting against (approximately a dozen Democrats joined the GOP). A similar vote two weeks ago to recoup $53 billion in taxpayer funds from Big Oil was also voted down, largely along party lines. The former CEO of Shell Oil, John Hoffmeister, recently said Big Oil doesn’t need subsidies “in face of sustained high oil prices.” From 2005 to 2009, the largest oil companies have made a combined $485 billion in profits.

  46. Davy Jones Says:

    1.KoolKell Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    @DavyJones

    Woodleys AV numbers are way higher than Wimbleys.
    You keep bringing up the Rooneys in response to me. A little advice, Don’t do it.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoodLa99.htm

    ==================================================

    What? Wimbley’s career AV is 39 to Woodley’s 41. By contrast, Tom Brady’s career AV is 140 to Peyton Manning’s 220. I used your link to find those numbers, BTW. Anyway, the units of measure I’d like to use when judging an OLB are tackles and sacks, thanks.

    And you posted a whole bunch about the Rooneys pre SB. That says to me that you think they’re an example of “sound management”. Am I wrong? Are you just as critical of them tagging their OLB with the nearly identical numbers?

  47. phatcable Says:

    i love my banks raise your rate cd,no i mean i was lost at sea,no i mean .i like watching my neighbors watch tv,no i mean i need a pay raise asap.

  48. Davy Jones Says:

    Sorry, Manning’s “weighted career AV” is 156 to Brady’s 115. Regardless, the difference between Woodley and Wimbley is far smaller than the difference between Manning and Brady.

  49. DutchRaider77 Says:

    BOEING: Despite receiving billions of dollars from the federal government every single year in taxpayer subsidies from the U.S. government, Boeing didn’t “pay a dime of U.S. federal corporate income taxes” between 2008 and 2010.

    _____________________________________________________

    But they are so generous with their polictical contributions!

  50. DutchRaider77 Says:

    Boeing also just got a $35 billion contract from the federal government. How’s that for fiscal responsibility?

    ______________________________________________________

    Yes, I can brag that Guy Petrovito shook my hand and said “I won’t remember who you are.”

  51. phatcable Says:

    Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick was a no-show at a charity event Monday in Philadelphia. Vick was to take part in an event called, “What It Takes,” a charity that provides mentors to kids who are at risk of dropping out of school, according to The Philadelphia Inquirer.
    According to Vick’s press liaison, Chris Shigas, the Eagles quarterback canceled on the charity event because of family issues in Virginia.
    Vick most recently canceled an appearance on The Oprah Winfrey Show. However, Vick did attend a Volunteers of America event on Sunday night, The Inquirer also reported.
    Vick has made huge strides in trying to rehabilitate his images, but these recent episodes brings into question Vick’s ability to “handle his new station in life” as the new face of the Eagles’ franchise, according to the newspaper.

  52. Davy Jones Says:

    23.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Good point, Kell. It’s funny to hear Al’s supporters mock revenue sharing. Without it, there are 31 teams in the NFL, then there’s…well, just 31 teams. I don’t know what’s in the water in Alameda, but for some reason they just can’t grasp reality over there.

    ===================================================

    Hey, weren’t you giving me AND lots of other people crap about siding with ownership? Didn’t you ask me “Do you know what a lockout means” and talk about how greedy the owners are? But now that Al Davis is sticking a thumb in their eye on the eve of the CBA, suddenly it’s the poor owners?

    You spent all kinds of time in this comment section criticizing the owners’ claims of being poor, right up until Davis made a mockery of it with his spending spree. Ah, but I forgot- you’re on whatever side that Al Davis isn’t.

  53. KoolKell Says:

    @DaveyJones,

    Woodleys got 39 sacks is 4 years, plus a pro-bowl appearance.

    Wimbleys got 35 sacks in 5 years.

    The AV number for Wimbley is over 5 years. The AV number for Woodley is over 4 years.

    Now quit acting stupid.

  54. buckeyeraider Says:

    Nice job, Davy. Calling out RMR on his duplicity.

  55. phatcable Says:

    Just a day after he posted a spectacular workout at the NFL Scouting Combine, it was revealed that Alabama WR Julio Jones has a broken bone in his foot.

    Jones has a broken foot and will need to have surgery to have a screw inserted into the bone to accelerate the healing process, according to a CBS Sports. Following the surgery, he’ll have an eight-week rehab process, according to NFL Network.

    Alabama wide receiver Julio Jones will need surgery to repair his broken foot. (AP Photo)It’s believed to be the same type injury 49ers WR Michael Crabtree sustained when he was training for the draft in ‘09. Crabtree, projected to be selected in the top three, was unable to heal in time for the draft and saw his stock drop to No. 10 overall. He then played in only 11 games as a rookie, catching 48 passes and two touchdowns.

    Jones’ bad break is even more surprising news considering how well he performed Sunday in the on-field speed and agility drills, closing the gap between the consensus No. 1 receiver, Georgia’s A.J. Green.
    Before this news broke, Jones was expected to be drafted no lower than No. 14 to the Rams. Now, teams will wait to see how he recovers before drawing any conclusion and he’ll likely return to Indianapolis sometime before the April 28 draft for a follow-up exam by multiple team doctors. If the healing process goes well, his stock might not be impacted much. But on the other hand the raiders could get a steal in the second round.

  56. Silverandblack666 Says:

    If Kim Newton was white and Tim Tebow was black……would KK be all over Tebows jock?

  57. buckeyeraider Says:

    Phatty,

    You had to have added that last line as a joke, right?
    No way Julio slips to 48. Maybe outta the top 10. Maybe.

  58. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    If Kim Newton was white and Tim Tebow was black……would KK be all over Tebows jock?
    —————————–
    Didn’t you just say yesterday, you hated political discussions. Stfu and scroll on by.

  59. phatcable Says:

    mike bush was a projected ist rounder them broke his leg and was picked by the raiders in the fourth round.

  60. GoodOle00 Says:

    Damning evidence KK. Note how none of the blow hard arrogant repubs who post and boast on here have nothing to say at all

  61. Davy Jones Says:

    BTW, KK, love your posts on big oil. There we’re in agreement.

  62. Silverandblack666 Says:

    KK answer the question

  63. KoolKell Says:

    GoodOle00

    Those people are usually low-info people, they only spout what they heard on the radio. Faced with something unscripted, totally helpless.

  64. buckeyeraider Says:

    Just to show how stupid I am, I dropped 8 bucks for one of those pre draft guides today. For info I coulda got off the internet for free. lol.

    Oh well, don’t have a laptop so I need some new reading material for the library, if you will.

    FYI,
    They have the Raiders taking LSU DT Drake Nevis (never heard of him) at 48. With KC taking PSU G/C Stefen Wisniewski 6 picks later.

    Wouldn’t that just pizz off a buncha Raider fans on here.

    Oh well, those mock drafts usually aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on.

  65. phatcable Says:

    if you dont give big oil the money too drill in the U.S.then they wont drill in the u.s. costing thousands of jobs.they wont drill on their own dime!

  66. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    KoolKell Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 2:06 pm

    Though Al Davis could be likened to a welfare mom spending Food Stamp money on Courvoisier.

    ………..

    Ha ha. Well said. Kell’s our own Kurt Vonnegut today.

  67. KoolKell Says:

    I base my opinions of players by their play, not by my bigoted character assumptions.

    You people are hating on Newton purely for his “icon” statements. Character assassinations, based on your character, somebody who calls himself 666.

  68. phatcable Says:

    KoolKell and beer = a bigot beer bash.

  69. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    phatcable, only a hooker could explain her devotion to her pimp better than you explained big oil.

  70. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Ha ha I knew it you have a man crush on him and you love his smile.

    So you will only judge a player by his play on the field but you judge a blogger by their moniker?

    great logic there KK

  71. phatcable Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:06 pm
    phatcable, only a hooker could explain her devotion to her pimp better than you explained big oil.
    ………………the difference between a hooker and big oil = the hooker pays her taxes

  72. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Wow, I gaze over today’s comments, and to no surprise, 666 is trying to spark up another race discussion. Mind you, this is a person who, yesterday, came in here and demanded that we all talk football and not politics…but only after he gave his political opinions then, too. Somehow I have a feeling that if 666 would just shut his annoying pie hole about all of his political and racial views, the political and race discussion in here would actually go away. But as we can see, he’s in no mood to yet.

  73. KoolKell Says:

    What would Jesus cut?
    ———————–

    If House Republicans get their way, they would cut $210 million from Maternal and Health Block Grants, which give low-income mothers, pregnant women, and their children access to health care. They also want to cut $27 million from the Poison Control Center, essentially eliminating the program, even though poisoning primarily affects children under six years old.

    The “What would Jesus cut?” ad is signed by many Christian leaders, including the evangelical leader David Beckman, president of the charity Bread for the World. Beckman said in a statement that “[c]utting programs that help those who need them most is morally wrong,” especially because “when Jesus talked about how God will judge nations, he said that God will focus on what we did or did not do for the neediest among us.” The GOP seems to have forgotten this basic tenet of the religion they regularly tout.

  74. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    So even a hooker has a moral high ground over your sympathetic explanation of big oil?

  75. Silverandblack666 Says:

    MR

    Your journalistic skills are lacking and your crappy rants bore us all…..Yes i was complaining yesterday about the racism but today I chose to call KK out on his BS….so mock me if you want but I am not the one with the failed career.

  76. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    One thing we have to face, Kell, the president started all of this by caving in to Republicans left and right, from the minute he took office. Dare I say that the reason Republicans keep winning is because voters are only following in the president’s footsteps? The president is a centrist. At this point, he’s far more conservative than Bill Clinton was. He’s even more conservative than Reagan on many issues!

  77. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Somebody please tell me why this moron keeps talking about my “journalistic skills”? I’m not a journalist, never even sought to be one, never even a goal. What’s his issue?

  78. r8eray Says:

    666, you Death_By_Raider??

  79. phatcable Says:

    big oil dont drill on their own dime ,they drill on taxpayer money, they rake in huge profits and make huge donations too the republican party,it is the circle of life.

  80. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    phatcable, everyone knows that.

  81. anthonyraiders Says:

    Just looked up Drake nevis, seems a little small 285 lb. Seems like he was an animal this last year but will have to put on weight. I still think we need a run stopping d tackle that just takes up space on first and second down. we cant stop the run at all. We have pass rushing end’s and d tackles but none hold the gap or take up space for the lb’s to work. D tackle from oregon state or the guy from baylor in the second round in my opinion.

  82. Silverandblack666 Says:

    no r8eray

    I have always been silvernblack666 and always been hated here….by choice.

  83. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The president won with around 70 million votes, shattering the popular vote record by nearly 10 million. All he had to do was govern with that wind in his back, using the will of the people to just steamroll washington, and with a Democratic congress and senate to boot. Dealing with stubborn dems? Same strategy. When you win as big as he did, you go into Washington as something between Jesus Christ and Machete. He instead went in there as a probate, trying out for his job, and almost asking congress for permission to do anything. You don’t do that when you have 70 million votes.

  84. phatcable Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    phatcable, everyone knows that
    ……………………….well ithought i would tell you so you can improve on your “journalistic skills

  85. Silverandblack666 Says:

    MR

    Your missing the big picture with BO.

    The President knows that in order for him to make a lasting impact and get his agenda’s to stick he will need to be a 2 term president….in order to accomplish that he is going to have to make some compromises with the other party….its good long term planning on his part and great foresight, something you lack.

  86. KoolKell Says:

    MR, they won’t let me post about the prez.

  87. r8eray Says:

    666, I don’t care what KK says about you…you alright!

    ;)

  88. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Phatcable

    I say that to MR because for years he has been saying how he wrote a Sports Illustrated article and also how he is writing a script for a movie…..just a way to get his motor running…..kind of like when I ask KK if he had any Metamucil or crapped his adult diapers today.

  89. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Thanks ray now back to Football….I don’t know if you folks remember or not but Richard Seymour was the first person off the “Rookie” bus at training camp when the veterans were not even required to be there…..he chose to be a hard worker and come to camp early set the tone for the defense and the rookies I think the defensive turn around happened at that moment…for this and many other reasons he was worth the 1st round pick.

  90. r8eray Says:

    Condo better watch out…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THklo6MDTMU

  91. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Thanks ray now back to Football….I don’t know if you folks remember or not but Richard Seymour was the first person off the “Rookie” bus at training camp when the veterans were not even required to be there…..he chose to be a hard worker and come to camp early set the tone for the defense and the rookies I think the defensive turn around happened at that moment…for this and many other reasons he was worth the 1st round pick.
    ———————————-
    Really????? Really???? he was the first one off the rookie bus? Wow, didn’t know that. Wow!!!!!

  92. anthonyraiders Says:

    So how about the raiders. screw politics. Nothing will ever get better in this country. just work hard and take care of your own. So i was at work and busy did anyone see any good prospects at olb or corner in the combine.

  93. Silverandblack666 Says:

    KK

    Remember when you said that Mike Shanahan invented the cut blocking scheme.

    I still laugh about that.

    man that was a freaking funny thing to hear from a guy who thinks he has vast football knowledge!

  94. KoolKell Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:43 pm
    KK

    Remember when you said that Mike Shanahan invented the cut blocking scheme.

    I still laugh about that.
    ——————————–
    Can you provide a link, or any other acceptable proof?

  95. Silverandblack666 Says:

    KK scroll up the topic of the post is how does Seymour compare to other number 17 picks and was he worth it?

    Hence my generic post that you mocked.

  96. edward teach Says:

    The GOP seems to have forgotten this basic tenet of the religion they regularly tout.

    ********************************************************

    They haven’t forgotten it; it never mattered to them in the first place. Manipulating the religious is a key component of right wing strategy, and that’s it. Karl Rove and his bunch were experts at creating and exploiting wedge issues, and abortion was one of those issues that “forced” large segments of the religious community to “choose”. It’s manipulative strategy, and that’s all it is.

    Some religious have figured it out, some haven’t.

  97. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “Can you provide a link, or any other acceptable proof?”

    yeah, I mock you for it on a monthly basis I can go back and find some posts if you like old man…..why is your glaucoma acting up….do you need a doobie?

  98. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    MR

    Your missing the big picture with BO.

    The President knows that in order for him to make a lasting impact and get his agenda’s to stick he will need to be a 2 term president…

    …………..

    That’s not how you govern when you win big, and have the house and senate.

  99. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    Thanks ray now back to Football…

    ………..

    Shut up, moron. You have never been a leader anywhere in your life, and that includes this blog. Only person who’s taking orders from you is you.

  100. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I have been on this Blog for 6 years now and every year KK is someones whipping boy.

  101. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    666, I’ve never seen anyone smart enough in here to “Whip” anyone, as you’d put it. So I dont’ know how that can be. This blog is a wasteland of misfits, and therefore Kell fits right in. Just like you.

  102. KoolKell Says:

    This blog is a wasteland of misfits, and therefore Kell fits right in. Just like you.
    ——————————
    Speak for yourself, ok?

  103. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Wow I somehow hurt MR’s chat feelings

    Did I hit a nerve or uncover some deep seeded anger when I mocked your writing skills?

    whats funny is that you think you know how to govern….the only thing you should ever oversee is the cleaning of the toilets at the Taco Bell or passing out KY Jelly at a massive orgy in the castro district.

  104. Silverandblack666 Says:

    ” I’ve never seen anyone smart enough in here to “Whip” anyone”

    I seriously doubt that you have ever “seen” anyone from this blog.

    Maybe you read but not seen.

  105. DKnight007 Says:

    41.KoolKell Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 2:12 pm
    BOEING: Despite receiving billions of dollars from the federal government every single year in taxpayer subsidies from the U.S. government, Boeing didn’t “pay a dime of U.S. federal corporate income taxes” between 2008 and 2010.

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep and there plenty of stories like this all across the country of big time corporations not paying their taxes from 2002-2008 or 2009.

    In my recent up to date IRA seminar, the facilitator noted that over 60% of big corporations in the U.S. did NOT pay their taxes between the dates of 2002-2008.

    And they wonder why this country is screwed up. Who’s watch did this happen under again?

    You guessed it….the evil doers…Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Libby, Rice, Rove.

  106. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, I am speaking for myself, and you. And Richochet. And Bob. And Brien. And 666. And Vegas. Especially Vegas. This blog is a wasteland of losers.

  107. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Silverandblack666 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:53 pm

    passing out KY Jelly at a massive orgy in the castro district.

    ……….

    Between this and you talking about Gruden’s pubes yesterday, I’m really wondering about you.

  108. Nnamdi21 Says:

    edward teach Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    The GOP seems to have forgotten this basic tenet of the religion they regularly tout.

    ********************************************************

    They haven’t forgotten it; it never mattered to them in the first place. Manipulating the religious is a key component of right wing strategy, and that’s it. Karl Rove and his bunch were experts at creating and exploiting wedge issues, and abortion was one of those issues that “forced” large segments of the religious community to “choose”. It’s manipulative strategy, and that’s all it is.

    Some religious have figured it out, some haven’t.

    =========================

    GREED is their religion and MONEY is their GOD.

    You are absoluty correct. They are part and parcel of the CIAs modus operandi

    “to execute an intensified program of harassment, diversion, political pressure, capture of prisoners, physical destruction, acquisition of intelligence, generation of propaganda, and diversion of resources.”

    Thats why this whole unchecked shadow war bull**** is so dangerous and why the seamless blending of military-multinational corps and media is insidiously spreading like a disease.

    Plainly clear the Repubs have stepped up their war on the poor by attempting to union bust.

    Pretty sick of it.

  109. Nnamdi21 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:57 pm
    Kell, I am speaking for myself, and you. And Richochet. And Bob. And Brien. And 666. And Vegas. Especially Vegas. This blog is a wasteland of losers.

    =================

    Whom you engage at every turn

  110. KoolKell Says:

    Ooh boy, RMR……..how do you define losers?

  111. Nnamdi21 Says:

    say, heres something.

    Whos going to break out this year?

    DHB

    Desmond Bryant

    Mike Mitchell

    Rolando McClain

  112. DKnight007 Says:

    edward teach Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    The GOP seems to have forgotten this basic tenet of the religion they regularly tout.

    ********************************************************

    They haven’t forgotten it; it never mattered to them in the first place. Manipulating the religious is a key component of right wing strategy, and that’s it. Karl Rove and his bunch were experts at creating and exploiting wedge issues, and abortion was one of those issues that “forced” large segments of the religious community to “choose”. It’s manipulative strategy, and that’s all it is.

    Some religious have figured it out, some haven’t

    ^^^^^^^
    Yep, thats where stupidity comes into play.

    Rove just preyed on the weak minded who are easy to manipulate.

  113. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, this is all a joke. One big joke. And we’re the punch line. Just imagine what these guys at IBA say about us. And I mean ALL of us, even the people who just come in here and talk x’s and o’s. In a way, they have the most issues.

  114. KoolKell Says:

    666 tells me you’re an anti-social loser.

  115. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Carson palmer said he would play for nothing as he already has 80 million in the bank

    (probably regrets saying that after getting numerous calls from the IRS)

    I say sign him for the NFL minimum and let him compete with Jason Campbell for the job.

  116. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I say that about everyone

  117. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    666 is a freak, Kell. Read his comments. If you need, I’ll highlight the bits and pieces where he reveals himself.

  118. DKnight007 Says:

    108.Nnamdi21 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:58 pm
    edward teach Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    The GOP seems to have forgotten this basic tenet of the religion they regularly tout.

    ********************************************************

    They haven’t forgotten it; it never mattered to them in the first place. Manipulating the religious is a key component of right wing strategy, and that’s it. Karl Rove and his bunch were experts at creating and exploiting wedge issues, and abortion was one of those issues that “forced” large segments of the religious community to “choose”. It’s manipulative strategy, and that’s all it is.

    Some religious have figured it out, some haven’t.

    =========================

    GREED is their religion and MONEY is their GOD.

    You are absoluty correct. They are part and parcel of the CIAs modus operandi

    “to execute an intensified program of harassment, diversion, political pressure, capture of prisoners, physical destruction, acquisition of intelligence, generation of propaganda, and diversion of resources.”

    Thats why this whole unchecked shadow war bull**** is so dangerous and why the seamless blending of military-multinational corps and media is insidiously spreading like a disease.

    Plainly clear the Repubs have stepped up their war on the poor by attempting to union bust.

    Pretty sick of it.

    ^^^^^^^
    At least we live here in the State of California where most here have a functioning brain who don’t buy into that BS.

    Then again….California is broke due to corrupt mismanagement anyways.

  119. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Gruden’s pubes? KY Jelly at an orgy in the Castro? Who thinks of this?

  120. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    California is broke because of what we spend on prisons.

  121. KoolKell Says:

    It’s communication, baby!

  122. Silverandblack666 Says:

    120 good post Mr I agree 100%

  123. olinesux Says:

    gop is making its last stand…they will soon be irrelevant.

  124. Silverandblack666 Says:

    the deal is that I come here for one thing and one thing only…..Entertainment while I am working.

    Its all one big joke to me and I only post smart azz comments for amusement.

    So don’t try to read anything into it like I am a covert psychopathic night stalker.

    Just a smart azz

  125. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Thanks 666. You’re not a loser anymore. Still disturbed by Gruden’s pubes and KY jelly, though.

  126. KoolKell Says:

    A 666 handle, tells me the persona is anti-social, angry, quite possibly abused as a child.

  127. DKnight007 Says:

    1.KoolKell Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    @DavyJones

    Woodleys AV numbers are way higher than Wimbleys.
    You keep bringing up the Rooneys in response to me. A little advice, Don’t do it.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoodLa99.htm

    ^^^^^^
    I would have liked to have seen Wimbleys #’s if would have played as a down full time RDE?

    He probably would have had at least 5 more sacks and more tackles also.

    Marshall used Wimbley as good as he could of in a 4-3 defense where he was a starting SAM LB.

  128. Nnamdi21 Says:

    124. Me thinks thou doth protest too much…:)

    No worries. Just glad adults can have a semi intelligent conversation about sports and or anything else.

    Thats freedom. Excersize it.

    So I’m hoping W. McFad is ready to play slot next season.

  129. DKnight007 Says:

    120.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 4:05 pm
    California is broke because of what we spend on prisons.

    ^^^^^^^
    That’s just a small piece of the problem.

  130. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    DKnight, you don’t now what you’re talking about. But if you want to bore us with FoxNews’s analysis of California’s budget, ignoring all of the money that’s spent on private contracts and prisons, knock yourself out.

  131. phatcable Says:

    Gruden’s pubes link please?

  132. anthonyraiders Says:

    I hope DHB has the come out year. That would really kick people in the balls if that happened. Carson palmer in oakland, he would get killed. Until we have a line that we know can 80% percent of the time pass block, mobility at the QB is a must.

  133. Vinous Says:

    Kell 37 -tremendous lossses…you don’t pay income tax if u don’t make money…exceptons w/b Exxon and possibly Boeing Most of these co lost so much that they won’t pay taxes for a long time!

  134. phatcable Says:

    Real MaddenRaider you would think now that your at a age where you have something coming in down there, you would be interested in a story about grudens pubic hair!

  135. DutchRaider77 Says:

    “Palmer was the franchise’s building block when it made him the first overall pick in 2003, Marvin Lewis’ first season as coach. He led the Bengals to the playoffs in 2005 and 2009 — their only winning records in the past 20 years — and rebounded from severe knee and elbow injuries along the way.”

    Well Raidefans it could be worse, we could live in Ohio and be Bungels fans…

  136. RaiderDebo Says:

    “I say me,” McElroy said. “Obviously, my talent level has a much lower ceiling than Cam. That’s fair, and I respect and understand that. But I don’t think I’m the only guy in the NFL that might have that same problem — I don’t think Peyton Manning is as athletic as Cam.”
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Anyone have a problem with McElroy comparing himself to Manning??

  137. alex7 Says:

    Not sure how making the playoffs twice in the last 5 years is worse.

  138. DKnight007 Says:

    130.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    DKnight, you don’t now what you’re talking about. But if you want to bore us with FoxNews’s analysis of California’s budget, ignoring all of the money that’s spent on private contracts and prisons, knock yourself out.

    ^^^^^^^
    hahaha…more like YOU don’t know what your talking about.

    I don’t watch Fox News?! LMAO!

    WTF?

  139. alex7 Says:

    Anyone have a problem with Debo not understanding what McElroy’s point was?

  140. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Damb. I thought we were looking good at safety. Other than Branch not being able to cover any body…

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/hot_read_all_the_latest_on_the_oakland_raiders

  141. alex7 Says:

    AnthonyRaiders,

    wouldn’t a QB that ISN’T known for holding the ball too long make the O-line’s pass-blocking look better? Especially with our running game.

  142. Nnamdi21 Says:

    135. I’d take him for minimum for sure. Hard to tell though with Palmer. He hasd T.O. and Housh and Ocho and Henery so he’s had targets.

    Hard to tell there. He may go on to do solid for another team

  143. RaiderDebo Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    Carson palmer said he would play for nothing as he already has 80 million in the bank

    (probably regrets saying that after getting numerous calls from the IRS)

    I say sign him for the NFL minimum and let him compete with Jason Campbell for the job.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    “Competing” for the job at QB means you don’t have a QB. Screw that! Sick of QB controversies. If we’re getting a QB, let it be a rookie to groom so our starter can go to work.

  144. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You should watch foxnews, DKnight. They have the same analysis of CAlifornia’s budget problem as you do.

  145. Nnamdi21 Says:

    141. Mcfadden made our O line look alot better than it was on occasion. Made the first guy miss more often than not last year.

  146. RaiderDebo Says:

    Alex7 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 4:52 pm
    Anyone have a problem with Debo not understanding what McElroy’s point was?
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Enlighten me.

  147. YoungAmerican Says:

    If Palmer just wants to play for the love of the game, I don’t think that’s going to include coming to Oakland and having to deal with an owner equally as overbearing as Mike Brown, with worse wideouts, and on top of it having to beat out Jason Campbell for the starting gig.

  148. DKnight007 Says:

    144.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    You should watch foxnews, DKnight. They have the same analysis of CAlifornia’s budget problem as you do.

    ^^^^^^^
    What “analysis” did I make? I said the prison system is just part of the reason why California is broke….it’s not the ONLY reason like you are implying.

    You moron.

  149. alex7 Says:

    Palmer is better than Campbell. That can’t even possibly be debatable. Remember JC turns 30 next year. He isn’t exactly up-and-coming.

    How is Palmer only worth minimum salary while a lesser QB is worth $4 million per?

    Compete with JC? Do you know how fast Hue would name Palmer the starter, when HUE named Bruce the starter 2 or 3 times over JC just this last year?

  150. r8eray Says:

    Phatcable Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    Gruden’s pubes link please?

    —————————-

    http://spron.se/entries/viewImage/23

  151. YoungAmerican Says:

    Palmer isn’t coming to Oakland.

  152. alex7 Says:

    Sorry Debo, came off as a prick, I thought you were joking.

    McElroy is simply stating that even though he’s not as athletic as Newton, it doesn’t mean he can’t be a better QB.

    He uses Manning as evidence that being very athletic isn’t a necessity to being a good QB.

    He wasn’t comparing himself to Manning per-se, only stating that he, like Manning, is not all that athletic, yet can be a better QB than a more athletic Newton.

  153. alex7 Says:

    YA, I think he has a job waiting for him in Arizona, Tennessee, San Francisco, and Minnesota.

    Assuming he wants to win, he’ll probably find AZ and Minnesota as the two most likely to make the playoffs next year with him aboard.

  154. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    DKnight, it’s clear you don’t know anything about California. You don’t have access to information. You’re probably going to give us the tea party take on it, that it’s immigrants in emergency rooms. Because you’re stupid and you don’t know better.

  155. inonewordraider Says:

    the Alabama receiver Jones is a stud, we should take him if he fell to the 2nd after the foot surgery news even with our Oline issues

  156. KoolKell Says:

    RaiderDebo Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 4:50 pm
    “I say me,” McElroy said. “Obviously, my talent level has a much lower ceiling than Cam. That’s fair, and I respect and understand that. But I don’t think I’m the only guy in the NFL that might have that same problem — I don’t think Peyton Manning is as athletic as Cam.”
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Anyone have a problem with McElroy comparing himself to Manning??
    ———————————–
    Excellent point, Debo! His bodascious claims were met with hero-worship.

  157. RaiderDebo Says:

    Alex7 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 5:00 pm
    Sorry Debo, came off as a prick, I thought you were joking.

    McElroy is simply stating that even though he’s not as athletic as Newton, it doesn’t mean he can’t be a better QB.

    He uses Manning as evidence that being very athletic isn’t a necessity to being a good QB.

    He wasn’t comparing himself to Manning per-se, only stating that he, like Manning, is not all that athletic, yet can be a better QB than a more athletic Newton.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Look at the quote again. He said he’s not the only guy in the NFL without Cam’s athleticism. Then he uses the NFL measuring stick as an example. 1st of all, McElroy is not in the NFL. Then he had the nerve to say Manning’s name? How good at reading defenses and playing the game at the line of scrimmage must Manning be that he can overcome any perceived lack of athleticism to be the best in the game? I mean, the guy was picked #1 overall for a reason. Poor analogy in my opinion. He sounds arrogant as hell.

  158. YoungAmerican Says:

    Jones is 6′4 and ran a 4.39 with a broken foot… he won’t drop out of the top 15.

  159. alex7 Says:

    I’m looking at it again.

    “I have a lower (athletic) ceiling than Cam.”

    “Peyton Manning isn’t as athletic as Cam.”

    Come on Debo. He’s not comparing himself at a talent-level to Manning. Just stating that there’s more to QBing than being a physical freak.

    In context, that entire article is about whether McElroy feels he has a better NFL future than Newton, despite Newton being such a physical talent.

  160. M Lonetree Says:

    once upon a time there was man, Andrew Carnegie, who employed head-busting thugs to beat down any employees who wished to find a better way in their wage slavery or to unionize as he made fortunes in coal and railroads etc.
    history now worships him as philanthropist (philanthropist : someone who makes tons of money off the backs of others and then tries to buy favor from God and society with some altruistic deeds while never reliquishing any significant portion of the aforementioned fortune).
    NFL owners? Too small-minded to even care about such things as they are only in it for their own glory.
    NFL players? Those termed “blue collar” make $500,000 per year.
    Yes, Gringos are an ignorant group, but if you squeeze their root vegetable souls hard enough you won’t necessarily get vodka. You might find that excessive parking prices and excessive ticket prices and less disposable income as it all goes to hell might even make the potato-heads of NFL fandom shrug and walk away.

  161. KoolKell Says:

    “I have a lower (athletic) ceiling than Cam.”

    “Peyton Manning isn’t as athletic as Cam.”
    ————————————
    He can be a Peyton Manning and Newton cannot?

  162. RaiderDebo Says:

    Alex7 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 5:19 pm
    I’m looking at it again.

    “I have a lower (athletic) ceiling than Cam.”

    “Peyton Manning isn’t as athletic as Cam.”

    Come on Debo. He’s not comparing himself at a talent-level to Manning. Just stating that there’s more to QBing than being a physical freak.

    In context, that entire article is about whether McElroy feels he has a better NFL future than Newton, despite Newton being such a physical talent.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    I didn’t say he was comparing himself to Manning talent wise. But he is saying : “If Manning can do it, so can I”. The guy doesn’t have the pedigree to pop off like that. Arrogant!

  163. inonewordraider Says:

    YoungAmerican Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    Jones is 6′4 and ran a 4.39 with a broken foot… he won’t drop out of the top 15.

    your’re right the guy is a star in the making, Al gambles too much with guys like DHB and although I hope he pans out with the 7th pick and that much money invested you gotta go with a sure thing

  164. Nnamdi21 Says:

    158. Lets pray he stays out of the AFC West…and the AFC all together…

  165. 1eyedpirate Says:

    I believe we will take an Olineman or a cornerback in the 3rd…. O line is a need and cornerback is the way we draft…. It wouldn’t surprise me if they go for a qb given gradkowski’s durability issues….. Either way if 2 players crack the starting line up out of all our picks then we will have done a good job…. If 3 or 4 players end up starting then its time to start giving Al his props for 2 straight years of superb drafting… Can’t wait dammit !

  166. YoungAmerican Says:

    Don’t worry about Julio Jones, guys – Routt ran a 4.27!

  167. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Dungver has the 2nd pick. Who do we have to worry about?

    New coach=new QB?

  168. Stak Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    666 is a freak, Kell. Read his comments. If you need, I’ll highlight the bits and pieces where he reveals himself.

    ******************
    I recall reading something bout you and your aunt.
    You linking up wit her?
    That true?

    if that ain’t freak, nothing is.

  169. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Stak shut up punk. Talking about people’s aunts. That’s a prime example of something someone would say on the internet but never in real life. You’re a punk.

  170. Stak Says:

    # M Lonetree Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    once upon a time there was man, Andrew Carnegie, who employed head-busting thugs to beat down any employees who wished to find a better way in their wage slavery or to unionize as he made fortunes in coal and railroads etc.
    history now worships him as philanthropist (philanthropist : someone who makes tons of money off the backs of others and then tries to buy favor from God and society with some altruistic deeds while never reliquishing any significant portion of the aforementioned fortune).
    NFL owners? Too small-minded to even care about such things as they are only in it for their own glory.
    NFL players? Those termed “blue collar” make $500,000 per year.
    Yes, Gringos are an ignorant group, but if you squeeze their root vegetable souls hard enough you won’t necessarily get vodka. You might find that excessive parking prices and excessive ticket prices and less disposable income as it all goes to hell might even make the potato-heads of NFL fandom shrug and walk away.
    ***********************
    Never has anyone struggled so hard to say so little.
    Humorous, at best, watching you try and impress yourself with your inane banter.
    If you stayed on track, it would help you appear less desperate.

  171. Stak Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Stak shut up punk. Talking about people’s aunts. That’s a prime example of something someone would say on the internet but never in real life. You’re a punk.
    *********************
    Talking bout people’s aunts?
    Weren’t you talking about your aunt? How you wanted to do her?
    Wasn’t that you?
    Now you act shocked? Short memory?

  172. Stak Says:

    Was a while ago, RMR.
    Aunt? Cousins?
    Which did you freak to?

  173. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    169.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 6:19 pm
    Stak shut up punk. Talking about people’s aunts. That’s a prime example of something someone would say on the internet but never in real life. You’re a punk.

    *****************

    Hello Kettle.

  174. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Nick Failey may be a Donkey.

  175. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Or Da’Quan Bowers

  176. YoungAmerican Says:

    Von Miller could go to Denver, too.

  177. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    I can see the Rams taking Wisniewski in the second round.

    Dang first Long, and now Wiz 2.0… RAIDER wanna be’s

  178. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    176.YoungAmerican Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    Von Miller could go to Denver, too.

    ****

    Yeah I could see that.

    I would bet on one of the two best D-line guys though.

  179. YoungAmerican Says:

    Dareus is also an option for them.

    Any of the defensive linemen or linebackers they could take at #2 scare the hell out of me.

  180. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Paea would be good if Wiz is gone.

  181. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    YA yep. So we MUST draft some solid O-line guys to fit the new scheam.

  182. YoungAmerican Says:

    Ijalana, Cannon, Wisniewski and Moffitt would all be good fits for the Raiders with the #2 pick.

    I like Ijalana in particular because he can also play OT. Big guy, long reach, solid footwork.

    CB Curtis Brown and LB Mason Foster should also be in the conversation.

  183. Stak Says:

    Rams been filling some holes, starting with their qb problems. They have their qb of the future.
    We don’t. Stop gap, at best.

  184. YoungAmerican Says:

    2nd round pick* that is.

  185. Stak Says:

    I missed RMR’s answer.
    Guess his feelings got hurt.

  186. Inside the Oakland Raiders – www.ibabuzz.com | oaklandraiders.sportsblogstoday.com Says:

    [...] is a new Post at Inside the Oakland Raiders – http://www.ibabuzz.com. Tuesday, March 1st, 2011 at 12:15 pm in Oakland Raiders. If the Raiders don’t trade back in [...]

  187. phatcable Says:

    Stak Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 6:54 pm
    I missed RMR’s answer.
    Guess his feelings got hurt.
    ……………………………..he dont have feelings you have too be human too have feelings

  188. phatcable Says:

    The most coveted free agents
    1. Nnamdi Asomugha, 29, Raiders. He is the biggest prize on the NFL’s entire open market, and it will take big money — more than $13 million a season — to get him. He is an All-Pro corner who can neutralize just about any receiver man-to-man, but he also would improve any locker room.

    2. Ike Taylor, 30, Steelers. If the Steelers hadn’t had to worry about keeping linebacker LaMarr Woodley, Taylor probably would have been franchise-tagged. Big, physical and fearless cornerbacks in his mold (6-2, 195) are difficult to find.

    3. Antonio Cromartie, 26, Jets. His tantalizing talent gets him ranked high, but his head turns off many potential suitors. The fact Cromartie didn’t take full advantage of playing opposite All-Pro Darrelle Revis last year raises more attitude and effort concerns.

    4. Josh Wilson, 25, Ravens. Baltimore stole the speedster from Seattle in a trade last offseason, and he turned out being an ace nickel back. Wilson (5-9, 192) is undersized but is fast and skilled in coverage and should get a look as a starter.

    5. Brent Grimes, 27, Falcons. Grimes (5-10, 181) compensates for his lack of ideal size with a great nose for the ball and leaping ability, which got him to the Pro Bowl in ‘10. As a restricted free agent and key part of Atlanta’s defense, he should be quickly tendered a contract once the CBA is settled.

    INJURY RISK

    Johnathan Joseph, 26, Bengals. The only reason he’s not in the top five is a history on injury problems, most recently a high ankle sprain. He still should be coveted — he just might not get a deal as lucrative and long term as he seeks.

    STEADY RETURNS

    Richard Marshall, 26, Panthers. Marshall (5-11, 189) is one of the league’s most consistent — and most underrated — young corners. Over the past two seasons as a starter, he has 144 tackles and seven interceptions.

    JUST AVERAGE

    Carlos Rogers, 29, Redskins. Considering he was the ninth-overall pick in the ‘05 draft, he has had a largely disappointing career that has been marred by injuries, including two torn knee ligaments. Last year, he was slowed by hamstring and calf problems.

    THEY NEED HIM BACK

    Chris Carr, 27, Ravens. With fellow Baltimore corners Wilson and Fabian Washington also free agents, Carr’s versatility over his two years with the team — he started and played well on the outside after acing slot coverage in ‘09 — makes him a key piece for the defense to retain.

    SPECIAL TALENT

    Corey Graham, 25, Bears. He led the league in special teams tackles as a gunner in ‘10 and fared pretty well in his 10 starts on defense in ‘08 and ‘09. Graham (6-0, 198) has a hardnosed physical style.

    FREE-AGENT CORNERBACKS

    Michael Adams, 25, Arizona*

    Kyle Arrington, 24, New England*

    Nnamdi Asomugha, 29, Oakland

    Alan Ball, 25, Dallas*

    Tyron Brackenridge, 26, Jacksonville*

    Tarell Brown, 26, San Francisco*

    Phillip Buchanon, 30, Washington

    Quincy Butler, 27, St. Louis*

    Brandon Carr, 24, Kansas City*

    Chris Carr, 27, Baltimore

    Drew Coleman, 27, N.Y. Jets

    Kennard Cox, 25, Seattle

    Antonio Cromartie, 26, N.Y. Jets

    Travis Daniels, 28, Kansas City

    Kevin Dockery, 27, St. Louis

    Drayton Florence, 30, Buffalo

    William Gay, 26, Pittsburgh

    Corey Graham, 25, Chicago

    Brent Grimes, 27, Atlanta*

    Tye Hill, 28, Detroit

    Chris Houston, 26, Detroit

    Marcus Hudson, 28, Carolina

    Dante Hughes, 25, San Diego

    James Ihedigbo, 27, N.Y. Jets*

    William James, 31, San Francisco

    Kelly Jennings, 28, Seattle

    David Jones, 25, Jacksonville

    Johnathan Joseph, 26, Cincinnati

    Eric King, 28, Detroit

    Justin King, 23, St. Louis*

    Maurice Leggett, 24, Kansas City*

    Anthony Madison, 29, Pittsburgh

    Richard Marshall, 26, Carolina

    Trumaine McBride, 25, Arizona

    Brandon McDonald, 25, Detroit

    Dimitri Patterson, 27, Philadelphia

    Mike Richardson, 27, Indianapolis

    Carlos Rogers, 29, Washington

    Orlando Scandrick, 24, Dallas*

    Lito Sheppard, 29, Minnesota

    Ike Taylor, 30, Pittsburgh

    Leigh Torrence, 29, New Orleans

    Nathan Vasher, 29, Detroit

    Frank Walker, 29, Minnesota

    Fabian Washington, 27, Baltimore

    Brian Williams, 31, Atlanta

    C.J. Wilson, 25, Carolina

    Josh Wilson, 25, Baltimore

    Eric Wright, 25, Cleveland

    Ashton Youboty, 26, Buffalo

  189. RaiderRetribution Says:

    The U’s Brandon Harris, CB is one player I could see Al moving into the first round to acquire.

    He looked real good at the combines today, better than Prince & Peterson.

    other DB standouts were C. Brown of Texas (3rd round selection) and the Vandals’ Shiloh Keo.

    I know Mr. Woodson was probably agreeing with Prime Time, Raiders should draft Keo in the 6th round; Rod and Wiz would get him lean.

    You know Al will draft at least one DB.

  190. Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:

    106.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 3:57 pm
    Kell, I am speaking for myself, and you. And Richochet. And Bob. And Brien. And 666. And Vegas. Especially Vegas. This blog is a wasteland of losers.
    ——————————————–
    Wasteland of losers. Great title for a movie, like mad max. now that was a wasteland of losers, except mad max. He was a mean guy. The wasted land of losers, filmed in the odorous parts of a central california town, happens to really be somewhere else but if you could imagine sometimes why a backed up toilet reminds you of a certain blogger, that can be where this story starts.

  191. r8eray Says:

    Good Night Raider Nation!

  192. RaiderRetribution Says:

    good night Ray.

  193. RaiderRetribution Says:

    great one Macho, I’ve decided to sometimes read his, blogger who shall not be named, hey..just like the Raiders’ overall #1 Qb bust, but not comment directly.

  194. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I guess Colorado’s Jimmy Smith has been talking trash already. He said, according to SB Nation website Smith said he is better than Mr. Nnamdi Asomugha.

    Jimmy did not have a great combine, Curtis Brown and Brandon Harris were much better, hell even the Vandal, Shiloh Keo had a better combine [I think it would be great for the Raiders to draft Keo in the 6th round].

    It was cool to see Mr. Rod Woodson as a Raiders coach at the combine.

  195. djohnnyg Says:

    Everyone would do well to just ignore the posters that irritate you. I get ignored all the time, so I either irritate or bore many people. My point is that these ones (we know who they are) live and breath to get attention from the posters on this site.

    They are constantly negative about EVERYTHING and the world is a worse place becuz they are in it.

    Have fun with ignoring them and watch how desperate they get.

  196. djohnnyg Says:

    In regard to Al’s spending spree, it does irk me a bit that Raiders always have the highest (or top 3) almost every year and yet we still suffer through the losing and not making the playoffs.

    We may have graduated from the Detroit, Buffalo and Cleveland club of losers, but those teams don’t spend anything even close to what Raiders do.

    You’d think with all that $ we spend we would be a consistent lock for at least the playoffs.

  197. KoolKell Says:

    Djohnnyg Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Everyone would do well to just ignore the posters that irritate you. I get ignored all the time, so I either irritate or bore many people. My point is that these ones (we know who they are) live and breath to get attention from the posters on this site.

    They are constantly negative about EVERYTHING and the world is a worse place becuz they are in it.

    Have fun with ignoring them and watch how desperate they get.
    ————————————–
    Who named you Managing Editor of this blog?

  198. Stak Says:

    Problemo, Johhny, isn’t what’s spent, it’s who it’s spent on.

  199. Stak Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Djohnnyg Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Everyone would do well to just ignore the posters that irritate you. I get ignored all the time, so I either irritate or bore many people. My point is that these ones (we know who they are) live and breath to get attention from the posters on this site.

    They are constantly negative about EVERYTHING and the world is a worse place becuz they are in it.

    Have fun with ignoring them and watch how desperate they get.
    ————————————–
    Who named you Managing Editor of this blog?
    ********************
    I suppose you’re aware you just proved his point?

  200. KoolKell Says:

    I am now, lol.

  201. KoolKell Says:

    I’ve been saying the same thing for years. Top Payroll, Bottom of the Standings.

    The GM’s fault, perhaps?

  202. KoolKell Says:

    Of course, speculation on who Davis drafts in the 4th round is, er……….fascinating too.

  203. djohnnyg Says:

    197.KoolKell Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
    Djohnnyg Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Everyone would do well to just ignore the posters that irritate you. I get ignored all the time, so I either irritate or bore many people. My point is that these ones (we know who they are) live and breath to get attention from the posters on this site.

    They are constantly negative about EVERYTHING and the world is a worse place becuz they are in it.

    Have fun with ignoring them and watch how desperate they get.
    ————————————–
    Who named you Managing Editor of this blog?

    Surely you don’t think I was referring to you KK. I am merely suggesting instead of guys getting all ticked off at certain posters that they simply ignore them instead of arguing all night, and playing these “I know I am but what are you?” games.

  204. KoolKell Says:

    Djhonnyg

    How much would you think it hurts Davis, not to be able to walk around at the Combine and get a feel for these fellers?

  205. GoodOle00 Says:

    Man Russell’s an ***hole.

    I hope he ODs on cough syrup and has to be rushed to a public hospital

  206. djohnnyg Says:

    Ha. Well, he could drive his scooter around the field couldn’t he?

    All he needs is for Rod to report back on who had the fastest 40 time.

  207. KoolKell Says:

    It’s really not funny, sorry. If your serious about winning.

  208. djohnnyg Says:

    201.KoolKell Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 10:22 pm
    I’ve been saying the same thing for years. Top Payroll, Bottom of the Standings.

    The GM’s fault, perhaps?

    You can’t deny that fact. I always loved that Al would spend all that $ to get guys, but when he’s spending it on guys like Routt etc. and overpaying JUST to overpay alot of the others it bugs me. It’s not my $ but it still bugs me.

  209. KoolKell Says:

    22,000 season ticket holders is not funny or acceptable.

  210. KoolKell Says:

    Carry on Gents, I’m Out.

  211. djohnnyg Says:

    8-8 is “progress” so you’d think that would help the situation.

    Winning cures alot of ills.

    They have to do better than 8-8, but you’d think if they start winning more consistently the fans would be more committed.

    All the Raiders have to do is adhere to their mottos:

    -”Just Win Baby” and truly “committ to excellence”.

  212. GoodOle00 Says:

    A win for labor unions against NFL owners

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmlhuBZw4pGXgiImGZncKVZDubYF?slug=ms-dotyruling030211

  213. aig-raiders Says:

    Buster, welcome to the Oakland Raiders

  214. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    What’s up Aig.

    Buster?

  215. Raiders Routt talks, draft chatter & “protecting the franchise.” | Silver and Black Report Says:

    [...] Jerry McDonald advised to keep an eye on Buster Skrine. The cornerback from Tennesee-Chattanooga posted a 4.29 40-yard time and holds the school record at 4.22. Who else went to the same school? Boisterous wide erceiver Terrell Owens and former Raider tackle Terdell Sands. [...]

  216. neilb Says:

    Would Al sign a kicker if clocked under 4.3?

  217. bcz24 Says:

    aig-raiders Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:24 am
    Buster, welcome to the Oakland Raiders
    *********
    If we take Skrine late (5th round or later) I wont be upset. The kid is fast and pretty strong for his size. Might be a playmaker. Not sure about his man coverage ability though.

  218. GoodOle00 Says:

    Skrine’s got raider speed. Not much of it this draft

    Mornin east coast

  219. buckeyeraider Says:

    G’morning fellas.

  220. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Nice rainy day in the Bay again! But oh well…life goes on!
    Neil, Bcz24, GoodOle00, Buckeye…what’s going on fellas?

  221. bcz24 Says:

    Sup Hwnrdr. Ill take rain. It beats the hell out of snow!

  222. hwnrdr Says:

    Yup…but I wish people here didn’t drive like the rain is the harshest weather we can have…
    Anyways…what the heck is going on with these darn labor talks? I can say this…both sides don’t give a “hoot” (you know what I really wanna say) about us fans!!! And that my friends is the biggest BS!

  223. buckeyeraider Says:

    Don’t know the details, but.. it scrolled across bottom of espn that fed judge ruled in favor of player’s union that owners acted improperly with regards to TV contract money. Hoarding it to withstand a lockout.

    I’m sure it’ll be appealed, but maybe just maybe this will force the owners to be more willing to negotiate.

    I get the feeling that many of them were dead set on a lockout.

    Maybe they got caught up in the current atmosphere of union busting that is so prevalent right now. Sigh.

  224. bcz24 Says:

    Well the ruling last night that the NFL can NOT use the $4 billion in TV money for any 2011 expenses in the event of a lockout is HUGE news for us fans. That took away the ‘Ace in the Hole’ the owners had. If that ruling holds up in appeals court then by Aprils draft we will either have a new CBA or they will agree to use the old for 2011 while negotiations continue. There is no way the owners lock the players out if they dont have the TV money to fall back out.

  225. bcz24 Says:

    The thing is, this judge Doty ALWAYS rules in favor of the players. This guy even ruled in favor of Michael Vick keeping his $20 million bonus from the Falcons. That ruling was promptly overturned in appeals court.

    I think the ruling in this TV money thing will stand up though. The owners HAD to be planning a lockout if they deliberately negotiated for payment on these deals regardless of whether or not football is played. They will lose this battle.

  226. hwnrdr Says:

    That is actually good! Who’s the really greedy party now? LOL

  227. neilb Says:

    Good morning all.

    Cold but sunny over here.

  228. buckeyeraider Says:

    Hopefully common sense prevails. Surely these guys can figure out how to fairly divide their billions. I hope they can get a deal done without any interruptions to the offseason.

    If this drags out into the regular season, that would be disasterous, IMO.

    Americans love their football teams, but in a tough economy I don’t think a lot of average, blue collar fans are in the mood for Billionaires squabbling with millionaires on how to split their money.

    Unfortunately, a lot of people will mistakenly blame the players. They aren’t on strike. They are locked out. There was a deal in place, and the owners opted out.

    Hopefully reasonable people, and cooler heads will prevail. Like I said yesterday, surely these fools aren’t greedy enough to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

  229. neilb Says:

    That’s the problem Hwnrdr.ref222.There’s a third party in these talks……US! and neither players or owners give a crap.

  230. hwnrdr Says:

    Exactly Neil…and that is why I am holding out on renewing my season tix!

  231. neilb Says:

    I don’t think it’s greed that will kill this goose Buckeye but ego.

  232. bcz24 Says:

    I dont know how many people I have talked to that always say the same thing, dont worry there will be football, even if the owners have to bring in scabs. It is very difficult to explain that that the owners are the ones stopping the games, not the players. People just dont seem to get it.

  233. neilb Says:

    Morning Hwnrdr……gonna post till it stops me.

  234. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah but Why????

  235. bcz24 Says:

    I think the Feds will put a stop to any prolonged lock out pretty quickly if it comes to that. There are far too many people employed by the NFL that will be out of work in the event of a lockout. All the Feds have to do is mention the word Monopoly to the NFL it will get smoothed over pretty quickly.

  236. neilb Says:

    Hwnrdr…

    Still can’t work it out.Made sure there’s no cookies or any other crap involved.Made sure everything’s clean.However after a time it just will not post any of my comments.

    I’ll type something,press “submit comment” and the page will refresh but without what I’ve written.No error message – nothing.If I type the same thing twice it tells me so.All very odd.

  237. neilb Says:

    ………….So if I stop posting you all know why!

  238. bcz24 Says:

    You message the mods yet Neilb?

  239. neilb Says:

    Carson Palmer,80m in the bank,doesn’t want to play for the Bengals.

  240. neilb Says:

    Not yet Bcz24.Got a bother-in-law geek.I’ll let him have a look before I go down that road.

  241. hwnrdr Says:

    wow! at least with the error, you can at least see what is wrong…sometimes

  242. bcz24 Says:

    So, sad to say, I was really busy this weekend, and didnt get any coverage on the Combine. Who are the movers and who are the sliders? Wiz2 still projected in the second?

  243. r8eray Says:

    Good Morning Raider Nation!

  244. dickv Says:

    Other Corners to watch are Ras I Dowling, Carmicheal from VT, Davin House New Mexico, Van Dyke from Miami. My man Curtis Brown looked better than I anticipated at combine, but his 4.5 40 yd takes him off the Al Davis watch.

  245. Lynn from Snot Says:

    What makes everyone think we’re taking a sub 4.4 CB ????

  246. Lynn from Snot Says:

    http://twitter.com/#!/RealJRock2 Guess who??

  247. r8eray Says:

    @kirkmorrison55
    No way a deal gets done by tomorrow. Sad but I guess thats how it goes

  248. DKnight007 Says:

    212.GoodOle00 Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 1:28 am
    A win for labor unions against NFL owners

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AmlhuBZw4pGXgiImGZncKVZDubYF?slug=ms-dotyruling030211

    ^^^^^^^^
    Yep..yep. Good stuff!

  249. r8eray Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qinHKNLlPW4

    Raiderette eats it!!

  250. RaiderRockstar Says:

    ray,

    you follow Capt Kirk on twitter, too?

    that’s BOSS!

  251. r8eray Says:

    yup…check out the video I took a few years back!
    Just came across it…been wanting to post it up!
    I thought it was lost…forever!

  252. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Carson Palmer,80m in the bank,doesn’t want to play for the Bengals.

    ***

    the Bungles are like the Mustangs from that movie Gridiron Gang starring Dwayne “the Rock” Johnson

    loudmouths, malcontents, thugs & criminals!

    plus that owner is a cheapskate. Why would Palmer want to finish his career there? They have ZERO shot at a ring in the next 5 years

  253. r8eray Says:

    On Tuesday, who reportedly said: ‘I don’t need this, I have $80 million in the bank.’ A) Charlie Sheen. B) Carson Palmer.
    Answer is B)

  254. r8eray Says:

    I’m impressed, Palmer was able to save 80 million in 8 years!!
    Wow!!!

  255. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Palmer is from Fresno. went to USC. 31 year old #1 overall draft pick and 2x Pro Bowler

    was coached up by Hue Jackson in 1999 & 2000 (before he became a star under Norm Chow)

    Al Davis could overpay for A LOT worse at the QB position …

  256. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Palmer was able to save 80 million in 8 years!!

    ***

    Russell pocketed $39 million in 3 years

    who much do you think he actually saved?

  257. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BBL …

  258. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Palmer better than Campbell??

  259. r8eray Says:

    500,000ish??

    Its all clear now…Palmer has the better hand.

    Thats why he’s contemplating retirement..trade me or else!!!

    I’d do the same.

  260. Davy Jones Says:

    128.DKnight007 Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    I would have liked to have seen Wimbleys #’s if would have played as a down full time RDE?

    He probably would have had at least 5 more sacks and more tackles also.

    Marshall used Wimbley as good as he could of in a 4-3 defense where he was a starting SAM LB.

    =====================================================

    Here are the stats for OLBs who got tagged for 2011:

    Chad Greenway
    Career (5 years)
    solo tackles 353
    ass. 110
    sacks 6.0

    2010
    solo tackles 109
    ass. 35
    sacks 1.0

    Kamerion Wimbley
    Career (5 years)
    solo tackles 229
    ass. 77
    sacks 35.5

    2010
    solo tackles 46
    ass. 12
    sacks 9.0

    LaMarr Woodley
    Career (4 years)
    solo tackles 140
    ass. 46
    sacks 39.0

    2010
    solo tackles 35
    ass. 15
    sacks 10.0

    Tamba Hali
    Career (5 years)
    solo tackles 212
    ass. 71
    sacks 41.5

    2010
    solo tackles 36
    ass. 15
    sacks 14.5

    Can we put to rest the idea that Kamerion Wimbley doesn’t belong on this list and is overpaid? Numbers don’t lie.

  261. DMAC Says:

    Morning peoples!

  262. bcz24 Says:

    Can we put to rest the idea that Kamerion Wimbley doesn’t belong on this list and is overpaid? Numbers don’t lie.
    ******
    People just cant accept that a guy who WAS on the hook for $4 million with the buyback is now going to be paid $11 million. They think its their money.

  263. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    It’s funny.

    No one complains when the Yankees drive up the price players, but when Al does it he is crazy? The only questionable contract is Routt’s, but when you look at what SF gave Nate Clements, I don’t think the contract is that ludicrous.

    Also, if he is making the FREE AGENT market harder for other teams isn’t that a good thing? This is a competitive league at every level. If other players look at Al and feel they should get a higher contract, GOOD. Creating anarchy benefits a team with little personnel changes.

  264. Dakota Says:

    262.bcz24 Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 10:28 am
    Can we put to rest the idea that Kamerion Wimbley doesn’t belong on this list and is overpaid? Numbers don’t lie.
    ******
    People just cant accept that a guy who WAS on the hook for $4 million with the buyback is now going to be paid $11 million. They think its their money.
    +++++++++++

    You don’t think fans of teams that are in leagues with salary caps should be concerned with how their team spends money?

    Get real.

  265. Dakota Says:

    …but I’d rather have an owner spending money, even if it might not work, than an owner who is frugal and not trying to win like some of them do.

    I am one of Al’s biggest critics, but I give him one nod….he tries to win by spending his money.

  266. DMAC Says:

    The 49ers failed to extend a tender to potential restricted free agent QB Troy Smith.
    Early indications suggest new coach Jim Harbaugh places little value on Smith’s skill-set, coming as it does with subpar accuracy. One possibility for Smith is to head across the Bay to Oakland to reunite with former QBs coach Hue Jackson as Jason Campbell’s backup.
    Related: Raiders
    Source: CSN Bay Area
    ==============
    There you have it!
    (YOU Troy Smith lovers)

  267. DMAC Says:

    Might be the ideal back-up.

  268. bcz24 Says:

    You don’t think fans of teams that are in leagues with salary caps should be concerned with how their team spends money?

    Get real.
    ************
    The NFL doesnt have a salary cap buddy. Until a new one is rolled out, then no, I dont think anyone should be concerned with how the money is spent.

  269. Dakota Says:

    Yeah, there will be no salary cap under the new CBA….and I have a bridge to sell ya in NY.

  270. r8eray Says:

    Bcz24 Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 10:42 am
    You don’t think fans of teams that are in leagues with salary caps should be concerned with how their team spends money?

    Get real.
    ************
    The NFL doesnt have a salary cap buddy. Until a new one is rolled out, then no, I dont think anyone should be concerned with how the money is spent.

    ——————

    In order to make money, you have to spend money!!

    Go sign’em all Al!!

  271. bcz24 Says:

    I really dont think there will be a cap in 2011. If a cap is written into the new CBA then it wont take effect until 2012.

    Which bridge are you selling… and should you really be talking about the fiscal responsibility of AD when you let someone pawn a bridge in NY to you in Dakota?

  272. Stak Says:

    Please, not Troy Smith.
    Don’t even think about it.

  273. Davy Jones Says:

    265.Dakota Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 10:35 am

    You don’t think fans of teams that are in leagues with salary caps should be concerned with how their team spends money?

    Get real.

    =====================================================

    Concern is one thing. But unless you think that Lamarr Woodley is overpaid also, concern over Wimbley’s tagging is misplaced.

  274. Davy Jones Says:

    Another thought on the overpaying: the Raiders had the most FAs in the NFL. Waiting until FA starts and then trying to sign them all would have been a daunting task.

    So signing who they could prior to FA has chipped away at the list considerably. BUT, in order to convince a player to sign prior to FA so they don’t get the chance to see what other teams might offer, you will have to overpay.

    So it’s a tradeoff. The Raiders have a head start on their FA list, but they have less money to sign the remainder of the list because they didn’t wait.

    On the other hand, we don’t know what will happen with the CBA. A capless year or an increased cap are very possible.

  275. MEX_GHOST Says:

    Al Davis wasn´t spent his money, he INVESTS his money to win more games and to win more money.

  276. MEX_GHOST Says:

    At least, that´s what he´s thinking.

  277. DKnight007 Says:

    Raiders Mock 4.0:

    Rd 2- C S. Wisnewski, or G/RT M. Cannon,
    Rd 3- C J. Kirkpatrick, or WILL LB D Moch, or G John Moffitt, DE/WILL LB Brooks Reed, CB D House
    Rd 4- WILL LB C Matthews,CB RT Marcus Gilbert, RB Delone Carter, WR A. Pettis, or WR Greg Little
    Rd 5- DT/DE C. Thornton, DT T. McClain, CB D. Van Dyke,
    Rd 6- CB B. Maxwell, TE J Cameron
    Rd 7- TE Z. Pianalto

  278. KoolKell Says:

    Actually that’s a huge “Nod”. I do appreciate that he’s not a cheapskate, and tries to win, however misguided.

    There are owners who are ONLY concerned with the bottom line.

  279. KoolKell Says:

    Bring back Michael Bush, and all’s forgiven Mr Davis.

  280. Dakota Says:

    271.bcz24 Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 10:56 am
    I really dont think there will be a cap in 2011. If a cap is written into the new CBA then it wont take effect until 2012.

    Which bridge are you selling… and should you really be talking about the fiscal responsibility of AD when you let someone pawn a bridge in NY to you in Dakota?
    __________

    Hey, the Deed looked real!

  281. DKnight007 Says:

    9.YoungAmerican Says:
    March 1st, 2011 at 12:29 pm
    I think Moss is an adequate backup, but nothing more. I don’t think Houston or Shaughnessy are in danger of getting their starting spots taken away by him.

    ^^^^^^^
    Agreed. It would be good to keep Jarvis Moss on the team for depth and rotational purposes.

  282. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Yeah, there will be no salary cap under the new CBA….and I have a bridge to sell ya in NY

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    BREAKING NEWS

    New York, NY – The venerable landmark known as the Brooklyn Bridge was purchased and renamed today by a Plains entrepreneur, and will now be known as the Al Davis Causeway in honor of Brooklyn’s famous native and football impresario.

    Negotiations were finalized yesterday on the sale, and while the total cost has not been released, the new ownership group – Hillrod Holdings LLC – have scheduled a press conference for tomorrow morning to discuss the name change for the historical landmark.

  283. Dakota Says:

    Gadhafi dead yet?

  284. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # bcz24 Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 7:24 am

    I think the Feds will put a stop to any prolonged lock out pretty quickly if it comes to that. There are far too many people employed by the NFL that will be out of work in the event of a lockout. All the Feds have to do is mention the word Monopoly to the NFL it will get smoothed over pretty quickly.

    ……….

    That would be huge. I bet the tea party folks would just love that. Their outrage would be worth the price of admission alone, let alone saving the 2011 NFL season.

  285. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dakota, how about a “Thank you, Mr. President”, for taking a firm stance against Ghadafi?

  286. bcz24 Says:

    That would be huge. I bet the tea party folks would just love that. Their outrage would be worth the price of admission alone, let alone saving the 2011 NFL season.
    *********
    Did RMR just agree with me?

  287. Dakota Says:

    285.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    Dakota, how about a “Thank you, Mr. President”, for taking a firm stance against Ghadafi?
    _________

    Reagan is dead.

  288. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Thank you Davey Jones for your post #260 post on Mr. Kamerion Wimbley.

    He is one of the main reason practically every Raiders’ DL had 5-7 sacks last season.

    He, Mr. Shaughnessy, Mr. Houston, Mr. Seymour, & Co. are a force to be reckoned with for the next couple of seasons.

  289. RaiderRetribution Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
    Raiders Mock 4.0:

    Rd 2- C S. Wisnewski, or G/RT M. Cannon,
    Rd 3- C J. Kirkpatrick, or WILL LB D Moch,
    or G John Moffitt, DE/WILL LB Brooks Reed, CB D House
    Rd 4- WILL LB C Matthews,CB RT Marcus Gilbert,
    RB Delone Carter, WR A. Pettis, or WR Greg Little
    Rd 5- DT/DE C. Thornton, DT T. McClain, CB D. Van Dyke,
    Rd 6- CB B. Maxwell, TE J Cameron
    Rd 7- TE Z. Pianalto
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

    I agree with round 2, although I would add OSU’s Paea DL and FSU’ C/G Hudson as Wisniewski and Gannon may be gone, especially if the skill positions QBs, RBs, & WRs fall this year.

    I like the idea of drafting Nevada’s Moch in the 3rd and not getting caught up in his combine numbers, just like we did with Mr. Campbell last draft.

    and moving C. Matthews down to the 4th round, I would also include I-Dowling, Virginia’s DB as an option for the 4th.

    for 5th-7th we have got to include Vandal’s Shiloh Keo, DB

  290. 8RaiderReign8 Says:

    This might sound crazy, but I think with the 2nd Round pick we either go QB or CB. We clearly need both more than we need a C. Our CB group looks like it can get easily torched and it’s about time we start grooming the next franchise QB to take over in the next couple of years.

  291. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bcz, I give props whenever anyone says something that’s true. If this is a first for you, it’s probably because most of what you say is b.s. :)

  292. Dakota Says:

    When was the last time the Raiders groomed a young QB they drafted and he ended up being any good?

  293. RaiderRetribution Says:

    American Knight (Hey, combining your two titles-I just came up with a cool name for next season’s FFL).

    I agree with Mr. Moss as a backup- a low risk high reward, especially if he has been working out this offseason, and actually produces what was expected of him coming out of college.

  294. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Come on, Dakota, if The President had done to Ghadafi what Reagan did, you’d say he overreacted, started a war just to ensure his reelection, etc.

  295. RaiderRetribution Says:

    292. Mr. Ken Stabler.

    also Mr. Steve Buerlein, but Steve & Al’s pride messed that one up.

  296. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dakota, re: 292, where were you when I asked that question? BTW, the answer is Ken Stabler.

  297. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # RaiderRetribution Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Steve & Al’s pride messed that one up.

    ……….

    What? What is that supposed to mean?

  298. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Hopefully Coach Wauffle is persuading Al & Hue- 49 reps this combine, Do you know what I could do with a DT that bench presses 225lbs 49 times [not to mention what Richard could teach him regarding QBs that date 16/17 year olds or assualts a woman in a public restroom]; next years draft we will be able to draft a 4.2 speedster that has an opportunity to start.

  299. Dakota Says:

    MR,

    Now we all know President Ob@ma lacks conviction, both in his domestic and foreign policies. You said so yourself just the other day. He tried to straddle the fence on Egypt sending out mixed messages, and now he is taking a firm stance with Ghadafi? Wow, how impressive lol. He blew his chance with Egypt, waiting until things were clear to finally stand up and support the movement.

  300. Dakota Says:

    I have to go change a tire….be right back.

  301. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    No, we don’t all know The President lacks conviction, Dakota. I also never said The President straddled the fence on Egypt, I was talking about his domestic economic policy. And, what chance did he “blow” with Egypt? Was he supposed to nuke them, Dakota, so the pitch fork crowd could accuse him of starting a war for political purposes? And, if he stood mute on Ghadafi, the pitch forkers would be questioning his allegiance. Haters can’t be pleased. Why not separate yourself from those losers, and give YOUR president some props, Dakota?

  302. YoungAmerican Says:

    2) OT/OG Benjamin Ijalana (Villanova), OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State), OG/OT Marcus Cannon (TCU), CB Curtis Brown (Texas), or OLB Mason Foster (Washington)

    3) OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin), C Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU), NT/DT Jarrell Powe (Ole Miss), OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida), or CB Brandon Burton (Utah)

    4) DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame), OLB/DE Dontay Moch (Nevada), OLB Casey Matthews (Oregon), or FS Robert Sands (West Virginia)

    5) CB Davon House (New Mexico State), C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock), or FB Henry Hynoski (Pitt)

    6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas) or TE Jordan Cameron (USC)

    7) QB Josh Portis (Cal PA) or WR Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)

    —————

    Attempt to re-sign: Miller (RFA), Bush (RFA), Reece (RFA), Satele, Bryant (RFA), Barnes, Loper, Mario Henderson, and Condo.

    Huff and Gallery will test the FA market. Huff seems open to coming back, but only for the right offer.

    Possible FA targets:

    CB Eric Wright or Richard Marshall
    FS Jarrad Page
    TE Matt Spaeth
    OT Nick Kaczur or Jammal Brown

  303. DMAC Says:

    The Eagles did not extend restricted free agent tenders to OLBs Ernis Sims and Akeem Jordan, and RB Jerome Harrison.
    It’s not like the tenders would’ve stuck — each is at least a four-year veteran — but the Eagles are letting go pretty valuable players here. They will all be unrestricted free agents after the next CBA. Sims does have plenty of flaws, but started 15 games last season. Harrison was excellent after a midseason trade from Cleveland, averaging 6.0 yards per carry as an Eagle.
    Related: Jerome Harrison, Akeem Jordan
    Source: Les Bowen on Twitter
    ============
    Sign Sims Al!!!!
    That solves our WLB woes.

  304. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    I have to go change a tire….be right back.

    ……….

    Yeah, you better split before I respond. Smart move.

  305. ohioraider Says:

    Very interesting news. The Alameda maid who forwarded me a copy of Al’s itinerary last month (excerpted here, briefly, before handlers had it unceremoniously removed) has provided another juicy little artifact–this from Amy’s diary. Managed to copy down (by memory!) some notes from last Thursday, Feb 24th. Can’t vouche for her spelling, so I’ve cleaned it up a little:

    24-2-11
    Assisting AD with contract review for KW
    Devising bm strategies to get new stadium by 2016 (need godamn 10 wins at least for some leverage!)
    AD going off on LSU corner with 4.2 spd. What’s the use? Can’t tell him anything!
    AD driven to stick it to NA for, as he puts it, “an imminent savage act of betrayal.” (I try to hint that overpaying SR isn’t the solution, oy!)
    Brainstorming some strats for managing upcoming lockout. Plant inside NFLPA says players would cave with modified morals/behavior clause. AD response: “I told those fkers in NY not to press the issue!”
    AD likes new pink sweats hubby bought me! Put his tidy whites on just so we’d be “matched.” So cute!!!

  306. Dakota Says:

    305.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    # Dakota Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    I have to go change a tire….be right back.

    ……….

    Yeah, you better split before I respond. Smart move.

    ++++++++++++

    Lol, no I just had to go change a tire….for your cousin.

  307. DMAC Says:

    DeMarcus Van Dyke (CB), Miami
    40 time – 4.28
    Wouldn’t be surprised if Al drafts this kid in the later rounds.

  308. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Your probably had to roll your wife over and change her sheets, Dakota. And then feed her another bucket of raspberry smoothie.

  309. Dakota Says:

    Hmmm, a smoothie sounds gooooood. I prefer strawberry-blueberry though….

  310. YoungAmerican Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    DeMarcus Van Dyke (CB), Miami
    40 time – 4.28
    Wouldn’t be surprised if Al drafts this kid in the later rounds.

    —————–

    I could see Al taking Chimdi Chewka.

  311. Dakota Says:

    DeMarcus Van Dyke….I hope we draft this guy just because of his name!

  312. Dakota Says:

    MR,

    Reading anything interesting these days?

  313. DMAC Says:

    Later peoples!
    Go A’s!
    Go Dubs!
    Go Cal Bears!
    Go Raiders!

  314. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Right now I’m reading The First Lady’s suggested eating routines. Figuring I can shed a few lbs. myself. Want me to send a copy to you and your wife?

  315. RaiderRockstar Says:

    have the Raiders tendered anybody yet?

  316. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Cincinnati Bengals have extended a restricted tender to cornerback Johnathan Joseph that would cost any team that signs him a first- and third-round draft pick, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported Wednesday, citing a league source

    ***

    YA: thoughts???

    finally we can quit talking about this guy!

  317. Dakota Says:

    MR,

    Thanks, but we are just fine. I have to eat some recipes from a heart healthy cookbook due to my once high blood pressure, but otherwise our diet is fine. Fish twice a week…..red meat only on weekends.

    The first lady would be proud.

    Right now I am reading a work of fiction by Conn Iggulden. Historical fiction.

  318. Dakota Says:

    MR,

    Just finished “Conspirata” by Robert Harris. A work of historical fiction concerning the life and times of Cicero and the decline of the Roman Republic.

    I think cousin humpin’ was widely accepted back then. You would have liked it.

  319. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Pat Kirwan posted a new Mock Draft on NFL.com today

    it has the New England Patriots taking J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin at #17 (the pick from Oakland)

    it says: Things haven’t been the same up front for the Patriots since Richard Seymour was traded to the Raiders. At 6-foot-5 and 290 pounds, with 34-inch arms and a size-11 hand, Watt has the physical credentials the Patriots like. They can come back for an offensive tackle later in the round.

    ***

    good deal for Oakland ???

  320. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m reading The Peoples History of the United States.

  321. KoolKell Says:

    Uh-oh, Huckabee claims the Prez’s grandfather was Mau-Mau.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Mau_Uprising

  322. YoungAmerican Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    The Cincinnati Bengals have extended a restricted tender to cornerback Johnathan Joseph that would cost any team that signs him a first- and third-round draft pick, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported Wednesday, citing a league source

    ***

    YA: thoughts???

    finally we can quit talking about this guy!

    ——————–

    Even if he hits the open market after a CBA is reached, the Raiders probably wouldn’t have the money to sign him after shelling out the money they already have. Would be nice as he’d be a good fit, but as soon as they gave Routt that contract, going after Joseph was pretty much out of the question.

  323. RaiderRockstar Says:

    INDIANAPOLIS — Miami CB DeMarcus Van Dyke will leave the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine as No. 1 on two lists.

    Van Dyke ran an official time of 4.28 seconds in his first 40-yard dash Tuesday, making him the fastest cornerback and the fastest player at the combine.

    Van Dyke’s time is the third-fastest 40 at the combine since 2000, behind just East Carolina RB Chris Johnson‘s record of 4.24 in 2008 and Houston CB Stanford Routt‘s 4.27 in 2005.

    Official 40-yard dash times for DBs:

    1. Van Dyke, Miami: 4.28
    2. Patrick Peterson, LSU: 4.34
    3t. Chimdi Chekwa, Ohio State: 4.40
    3t. Chris Culliver, South Carolina: 4.40
    5. Prince Amukamara, Nebraska: 4.43
    6. Joseph Lefeged, Rutgers: 4.43
    7t. Ras-I Dowling, Virginia: 4.46
    7t. Curtis Marsh, Utah State: 4.46
    7t. Byron Maxwell, Clemson: 4.46
    7t. Jimmy Smith, Colorado: 4.46
    7t. Shareece Wright, USC: 4.46

    Here’s a short list of top official combine times:

    1. Van Dyke, CB, Miami: 4.28
    2t. Peterson, CB, LSU: 4.34
    2t. Da’Rel Scott, RB, Maryland: 4.34
    4t. Edmond Gates, WR, Abilene Christian: 4.37
    4t. Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley State:4.37
    6. Mario Fannin, RB, Auburn: 4.38
    7. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama: 4.39

    -Frank Tadych

  324. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh, I hope Huckabee’s the Republican nominee. Him or sarah dingbat. Pleeeease!!!!

  325. Dakota Says:

    Chimdi Chekwa
    Prince Amukamara
    Ras-I Dowling

    MORE GREAT NAMES!

    Draft them all Al.

  326. YoungAmerican Says:

    good deal for Oakland ???

    ——————–

    It was a good deal for both teams. The Raiders needed a strong veteran influence who could show the youngsters on the team how to succeed in the NFL. The Patriots needed to get younger on the defensive side of the ball.

    Seymour gives the Raiders the kind of leadership a rookie couldn’t.

  327. Dakota Says:

    325.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
    Oh, I hope Huckabee’s the Republican nominee. Him or sarah dingbat. Pleeeease!!!!
    +++++++++++

    That nervous about the President’s chances?

  328. RaiderRockstar Says:

    3 teams from each Conference have 40+ wins

    East – Celtics, Heat & Bulls

    West – Spurs, Mavs & Lakers

    Orlando is surging and OKC is in a slump …

    go EAST !!!

  329. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Why not be nervous? Elections can go any way. But with Huckabee or Sarah dunce, it’s a guaranteed 4 more years. They’re both crazy.

  330. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Seymour gives the Raiders the kind of leadership a rookie couldn’t.

    ***

    Seymour, Henderson & Waufle are taking guys like Kelly, ShoNasty & Houston under their wing and grooming them to be dominant in the years to come!

    it would be nice to take Desmond Bryant and make him a permanent base end to sub for ShoNasty and/or Houston, but you know Al Davis has to have a few speed rusher DE’s (Scott & Moss)

  331. YoungAmerican Says:

    I like Bryant at DE, and I hope we see more of it next season.

  332. KoolKell Says:

    I figured the Mau-Mau card would come, but, Really? ;-)

  333. Dakota Says:

    330.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    Why not be nervous? Elections can go any way. But with Huckabee or Sarah dunce, it’s a guaranteed 4 more years. They’re both crazy.
    __________________

    Like I said before, if P@lin gets the nomination I will abandon my party and move to Cub@.

  334. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    If sarah genius gets the nomination, I will be buying an extra t.v. so I don’t miss one blunder of hers.

  335. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Same for Huckabee, btw, who’s clearly insane.

  336. Dakota Says:

    MR,

    You might need two extra TVs….and DVR on all of them to catch all her idiocy.

    THUNE in 2012!

  337. The Judge Says:

    I think God wants people to take care of people. I do not believe he wants the Government to take care of people. I also believe that if the Government STOPPED taking care of the people, the majority WOULD be taken care of by people, churches, family etc…

  338. r8eray Says:

    Packers cut A.J. Hawk

    Posted by Michael David Smith on March 2, 2011, 5:30 PM EST

    We didn’t expect Packers linebacker A.J. Hawk to see the $10.5 million he’d be guaranteed on the first day of the league year, and now it’s official that he won’t.

    Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that the Packers have released Hawk.

    However, that doesn’t mean Hawk is gone for good. According to Schefter, there are some who believe a new deal for Hawk is coming, and he’ll stay in Green Bay.

    Hawk was the sixth overall pick in the 2006 NFL draft, and although he’s started every game but three in his first five NFL seasons, he hasn’t been quite the star the Packers thought they were drafting. So it’s no surprise he won’t be getting that $10.5 million. Even if the Packers are still able to keep him around.

    —————

    Go get’em Al….seriously!!

  339. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Kell -

    Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, Matt Schaub & Big Ben are the best QB’s in the league …

    Mike Vick, Vince Young, David Garrard, Donovan McNabb, Jason Campbell, Josh Freeman & Troy Smith clearly are not.

    thoughts ???

  340. KoolKell Says:

    The Judge Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    I think God wants people to take care of people. I do not believe he wants the Government to take care of people. I also believe that if the Government STOPPED taking care of the people, the majority WOULD be taken care of by people, churches, family etc…
    ———————————-
    Simplistic frontier life left N. America during the Industrial Age.

    Tax policies, Large Multi-National Corporations, Govts around the world, effect us all, beyond our individual control, comphrende?

    Govt of the people, by the people.

  341. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    To play devil’s advocate, I kind of feel sorry for the Republicans, because they really don’t have a candidate who could beat The President. Republicans have the wind in their back right now and it’s all going to end in 2012 because they’re not going to be able to find a smart, sane candidate to run against The President. They’re not going to resist the sarah airhead – Reagan delusion.

  342. YoungAmerican Says:

    A.J. Hawk would be an intriguing fit at WLB. I wonder how much money he’ll command on the open market.

  343. r8eray Says:

    YA, with no cap…I say pay him what he wants!!
    Its not my money!

  344. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Judge, are you a Christian? There’s no mention of the United States in the bible, or God’s views on how big the United States’ government should be. Just saying.

  345. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Packers cut A.J. Hawk

    ***

    does he play WLB?

    and how much $$$ would it take to lure him in?

    I thought Groves started to play MUCH better as the season progressed … he was an animal against KC in WK17

    I don’t don’t think it’s fair to single him out as the weak link for Run D.

    Seymour, Henderson & Wimbley have already been re-signed.

    I think the hope is that Chuck B & Greg Biekert do a better job of coaching up these guys than Marshall & Haluchak did!

  346. Stak Says:

    I missed your answer, RMR, where you commented how 666 was a freak, where I commented about you lusting after a family member, where you got all in a tiff, saying how wrong it was I even comment on it.

    Someone here went on and on about having the hots for a family member.
    Wasn’t that you?
    no?

  347. KoolKell Says:

    Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Cam Newton some of the richest men in the world.

    RaiderRockstar clearly not.

    thoughts?

  348. Stak Says:

    Don’t knock Sarah.
    If nothing else, she can catch salmon for the needy.

  349. Stak Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Cam Newton some of the richest men in the world.

    RaiderRockstar clearly not.

    thoughts?
    =================
    My thought is there has to be a point to your comment, that applies in some manner.

  350. Stak Says:

    Al needs to vacation each year, remote island, from Jan until July.
    All problems solved.

  351. KoolKell Says:

    I was talking to RRS.

  352. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Stak, if we were face to face right now I’d knock your teeth out. Just keep saying things over the internet you’d never say to my face. You’re a punk.

  353. KoolKell Says:

    RMR, what’s the matter with you?

  354. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Yes I am a freak but thats what the women say when they see me naked.

    MR I come in here and see you are making new friends as usual……what gives?

  355. Dakota Says:

    355.KoolKell Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:57 pm
    RMR, what’s the matter with you?
    ____________

    Inbreeding causes short tempers; at least that is what his cousin told me when I “changed her tire”.

  356. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota, did you know Jimmy Carter turned over a Budget surplus to your boy Ronny R, the Godfather of Budget Deficets. Who turned it into record deficits, until your uncle Bush doubled it, and his boy tripled it?

    Did you know that?

  357. YoungAmerican Says:

    I could live with Groves and Goethel being the WLBs. Groves played pretty well as the season went on.

    If the Raiders are going to pick up an OLB, they should do it through the draft in the event a young playmaking LB they really like falls into their laps in the 3rd or 4th round. Other than that, I’m not sure how worthwhile it would be to spend more money in free agency at a position where they already have some quality players.

  358. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I would say there is a 50% chance that we will not have a season next year so I will be at the Stanford games drinking heavily fondling the cheerleaders.

  359. LA to TheBay Says:

    History will remember Jimmy in a more favorable light.

  360. LA to TheBay Says:

    The Judge Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 pm

    I think God wants people to take care of people. I do not believe he wants the Government to take care of people. I also believe that if the Government STOPPED taking care of the people, the majority WOULD be taken care of by people, churches, family etc…

    ————–

    Did this really just get said?

  361. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    This guy comes in and says insulting, disgusting things about my family and you guys are saying there’s something wrong with me? F$%% him.

  362. LA to TheBay Says:

    One of the biggest flaws of mankind is his presumption of what God is, thinks, and wants.

  363. Dakota Says:

    History will always remember Reagan…..Carter will be forgotten like Martin Van Buren.

  364. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Republicans ruin the country, Democrats make it better. Always the case.

  365. LA to TheBay Says:

    MR,

    I settle this now.

    Cousin by marriage or cousin by blood?

  366. Silverandblack666 Says:

    “History will always remember Reagan”

    But could Reagan remember anything?

  367. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Why are we talking about Carter now if he’s forgotten?

  368. LA to TheBay Says:

    History will always remember Reagan for what he was and what he did.

    Repub1icans will always remember Reagan for what he was to them. Some sort of Jesus-like savior of all things American.

    America is not infallable (sp?). See?

  369. Dakota Says:

    363.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    This guy comes in and says insulting, disgusting things about my family and you guys are saying there’s something wrong with me? F$%% him.

    says the guy that says stuff like this:

    309.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    Your probably had to roll your wife over and change her sheets, Dakota. And then feed her another bucket of raspberry smoothie.
    _________________________

    And now you want sympathy? LMFAO. Quit crying MR, it is quite unbecoming.

  370. LA to TheBay Says:

    Silverandblack666 Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    “History will always remember Reagan”

    But could Reagan remember anything?

    LOL!

  371. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LA to the bay, I’ll settle this right now. do you want to lose your teeth, or have your jaw rearranged?

  372. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota

    Did you know the only Prez’s to balance a federal budget were Carter and Clinton in the last 50 years?

  373. LA to TheBay Says:

    Carter is a humanitarian and diplomat in the purest sense of those terms.

  374. LA to TheBay Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 3:19 pm
    LA to the bay, I’ll settle this right now. do you want to lose your teeth, or have your jaw rearranged?

    —————

    So, cousin by blood.

  375. Dakota Says:

    Yes KK, you have said that before….thank god for the republican congress that forced Clinton to do so in the 1990s.

    Glad you see the light.

  376. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    LA to the bay, you’re an internet tough guy, a punk, and a loser. You know what would happen if you said that to my face.

  377. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Clinton wanted to go after Bin Ladin, but the Republican congress didn’t feel Bin Ladin was a threat.

  378. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I think Reagan will always be remembered for making Ketchup a vegetable so he could cut school lunches and he created a situation where old people were eating cat food.

    such great memories!

    And don’t start with the Soviet Union crap because it was Nixon who killed the Soviet Union by making China our preferred country over them for import export.

  379. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota

    Do you really think your tax dollars are just going to keeping black people in beer?

  380. LA to TheBay Says:

    LA to the bay, you’re an internet tough guy, a punk, and a loser. You know what would happen if you said that to my face.
    —————–
    Would your phaser be set to kill?

  381. Dakota Says:

    381.KoolKell Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    Dakota

    Do you really think your tax dollars are just going to keeping black people in beer?
    ________

    I do know my tax dollars keep me from getting more beer.

  382. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dakota thinks his tax dollars are funding Huey P Newton’s breakfast program.

  383. Dakota Says:

    Watch out LA to the Bay…..MR is clearly off his meds again. This happens once every six months or so. Someone will intervene…either his manager at Carl’s Jr., or his mom will take his computer away for a while till he calms down….until then just humor him.

  384. Silverandblack666 Says:

    Clinton is the best president since JFK unfortunately he liked having sexual relations with younger women>

    WOW imagine that, a guy who wants to pork a young chick!!

    I think thats 99% of American men if you ask me.

  385. DKnight007 Says:

    363.Dakota Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    History will always remember Reagan…..Carter will be forgotten like Martin Van Buren.

    ^^^^^^^
    History will remember Reagan for the Iran Contra deception and the deception of Reagan-omics.

    The GOP and Republicans will salute Reagan for both.

    Sheesh.

  386. Dakota Says:

    384.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    Dakota thinks his tax dollars are funding Huey P Newton’s breakfast program.
    _________

    I have nothing against panthers.

  387. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota

    Have you seen the Auto Industry’s Booming sales?

    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_07/b3971057.htm

  388. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Politicians are the worst thing to ever happened to human kind. They are blood sucking bureaus that free ride off the working man’s taxes, and this happens on every friggin country on earth.

  389. Silverandblack666 Says:

    One thing for sure is that my tax dollars that go to homeland security is the biggest joke there ever was.

    Sure you get felt up at the airport and need a passport to go to Canada but in reality if a terrorist wanted to sneak a nuclear war head into this country they could drive it across the Mexican border and no one would be the wiser

  390. Dakota Says:

    389.KoolKell Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    Dakota

    Have you seen the Auto Industry’s Booming sales?

    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_07/b3971057.htm
    ___________________________
    KK,

    An article from February 13, 2006? Really? Did you forget to take your Cholinesterase inhibitors today?

  391. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    They go out and have a thousand dollar dinner drinking friggin wine at 200dlls a bottle, and talk about how they are going to save the people from themselves by spending the people’s dime. mean while the working family is working overtime to pay for this dinner.

  392. DKnight007 Says:

    289.RaiderRetribution Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    DKnight007 Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 11:56 am
    Raiders Mock 4.0:

    Rd 2- C S. Wisnewski, or G/RT M. Cannon,
    Rd 3- C J. Kirkpatrick, or WILL LB D Moch,
    or G John Moffitt, DE/WILL LB Brooks Reed, CB D House
    Rd 4- WILL LB C Matthews,CB RT Marcus Gilbert,
    RB Delone Carter, WR A. Pettis, or WR Greg Little
    Rd 5- DT/DE C. Thornton, DT T. McClain, CB D. Van Dyke,
    Rd 6- CB B. Maxwell, TE J Cameron
    Rd 7- TE Z. Pianalto
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

    I agree with round 2, although I would add OSU’s Paea DL and FSU’ C/G Hudson as Wisniewski and Gannon may be gone, especially if the skill positions QBs, RBs, & WRs fall this year.

    I like the idea of drafting Nevada’s Moch in the 3rd and not getting caught up in his combine numbers, just like we did with Mr. Campbell last draft.

    and moving C. Matthews down to the 4th round, I would also include I-Dowling, Virginia’s DB as an option for the 4th.

    for 5th-7th we have got to include Vandal’s Shiloh Keo, DB

    ^^^^^^^
    Keo in Round 6 or 7 would be a good pick.

  393. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    Look at the unemployment rate. How many bureocrats got fired?

  394. KoolKell Says:

    Antigay Pastor Wasn’t Masturbating, Just Had Pants Open

    http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/03/01/Antigay_Pastor_Wasnt_Masturbating_Just_Had_Pants_Open/

  395. Dakota Says:

    Later gents! As always it has been fun. lol

  396. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota, sorry, here you go.

    U.S. auto sales soar in February

    http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2011/03/us_auto_sales_soar_in_february.html

  397. Davy Jones Says:

    340.RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    Kell -

    Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, Matt Schaub & Big Ben are the best QB’s in the league …

    Mike Vick, Vince Young, David Garrard, Donovan McNabb, Jason Campbell, Josh Freeman & Troy Smith clearly are not.

    thoughts ???

    ======================================================

    Rush Limbaugh, is that you???

    Never mind that Michael Vick is a GREAT QB.

  398. Silverandblack666 Says:

    LMAO at #397 knowing how much it will piss off KK

  399. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’ll bet you whoever paid 40k for Justin Bieber’s hair is one of these people who thinks The President ruined the country. Yeah, it’s so bad they can afford to shell out 40 grand on some talentless little future crack addict’s hair. There was a funny cartoon in he Sacramento Bee back in November that showed this guy standing in line at the shopping mall at midnight Thanksgiving night, talking about how the prez has ruined the country and the economy is doomed. LOL

  400. Davy Jones Says:

    386.DKnight007 Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    History will remember Reagan for the Iran Contra deception and the deception of Reagan-omics.

    The GOP and Republicans will salute Reagan for both.

    Sheesh.

    =====================================================

    Don’t forget 20,000 dead before he’d even say the word AIDS.

    Oh, and death squads in El Salvador.

  401. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Loss of living wage jobs actually began in the ’90s, and began to purge as soon as Bush became president.

  402. Silverandblack666 Says:

    MR anyone who still lives in the 1950’s (The Cristian Right) will be anti abortion and anti Science.

    It’s a well known fact.

    they still think the earth is flat and not round and they do not believe in gravity. (Gravity created the Universe)

  403. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ever since Bush became president, the economy has entirely been beholden to Wall Street. That wasn’t the case in the Clinton era, where much more of the economy was based in middle class citizens cashing substantial pay checks.

  404. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    I do not beliebe in gravity! lol. its anti-gravity that pushes me down toward earth!

  405. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I don’t take government and politician naysayers seriously until they talk about the money government gives to the rich. Sorry.

  406. Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e91644/article/owners-wrap-threehour-meeting-no-vote-on-lockout-taken?module=HP_headlines

    Owners don’t want a lockout because they know Al Davis is once step ahead of them and don’t want to lose more ground. Al is at the head of the curve, and has all the owners worried. There will be no lockout because of Al.

  407. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    What? I dont take politicians seriously because they lie half the time. Half of them give money to the rich, the other half give money to the poor, either way, they keep a good piece of the pie. Don’t know a good politician that ended poor, not one in history.

  408. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Finally, we find something good about Al Davis. He doesn’t care about the other owners, and therefore won’t participate in their pact. He’s throwing his shirt on the table for players when the other owners are pleading poverty. I might reward him and go to a game in 2012.

  409. Silverandblack666 Says:

    I have to go home now and I cant post from my home computer (lifetime ban for calling the Mod a troll)

    But I will be back tomorrow with more of my smelly opinions

    later TARDS!

  410. KoolKell Says:

    To a lot of people: Taxes = taking care of black people.

    Pretty stupid.

  411. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    MR hates Al couse he gives money to the rich.

  412. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Do I have to repeat myself? I don’t want to hear about politicians or government being crooked until you talk about the connections they have to the rich, and I mean in the private business sector. I just hear too many of these anti government people whining about welfare and unions, and not enough complaining about private contracts going to the wealthy, when that’s where most of our tax dollars go. So until one of these anti government whiners talks about that, I’m just assuming they’re a closet right winger trying to come off all pragmatic. Get it?

  413. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Macho Man loves Al because he doesn’t trust politicians.

  414. Al Davis Macho Macho Supremo Says:

    408.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    Finally, we find something good about Al Davis. He doesn’t care about the other owners, and therefore won’t participate in their pact. He’s throwing his shirt on the table for players when the other owners are pleading poverty. I might reward him and go to a game in 2012.
    ———————————-
    Al will be very excited about that. He appreciates your business.

  415. KoolKell Says:

    Looks like Judge Doty has blocked TV money from the Owners.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/02/doty-could-block-tv-payments-and-award-money-damage/

  416. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    What? An entrpreneur’s job is to grow his business. A government employee’s job is to manage public resources. The decision maker is on the public side moron. Take corruption away from the administration of public resources and you will stop it. You will never take the private sector’s greed.

  417. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    hmmm. i think I am being banned for not trusting politicos.

  418. KoolKell Says:

    Public Financing of elections solves the corruption problem.

    It would keep the Koch Brother’s and other Corp paymasters from channeling money to congressmen through election contributions and backdoors, which allows them to exploit the public resources AND pay no taxes.

    The answer is not to get rid of govt regulations and public safegards, national parks, education…

  419. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Macho Man (More like Adrian Adonis)

    Read my above comment. I don’t want to hear a word about your anti-gubment b.s. unless you’re willing to talk about our tax dollars going to big biz. Do you not understand? Find someone in your house with a 5th grade reading level to explain it to you, Adrian.

  420. Harder2000 Says:

    A.J. Hawk could be worth a look..

  421. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You’re being banned for being another dumb tea bagger pretending to be some kind of independent minded wrestling fan, hopefully.

  422. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    OK Madden Raider (Adriana Budgeteer)

    Lets talk about tax dollars going to big biz. Why does it happen?, and how coud it be stopped?

  423. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh, it takes you this long to talk about it? After a half hour of trying to get us to talk about politicians taking our money and giving it to poor people and teachers. Ha ha.

  424. Macho Man Randy Savage Says:

    what? got something better to do?

  425. Stak Says:

    Must have hit a nerve, RMR.
    Was a rather simple question.
    Was that you, or not?
    I mean you called out 666 for being a freak. If it was you who was posting bout family members, makes you also a freak.
    If not, my mistake.
    So? You, or no?

    # Stak Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    I missed your answer, RMR, where you commented how 666 was a freak, where I commented about you lusting after a family member, where you got all in a tiff, saying how wrong it was I even comment on it.

    Someone here went on and on about having the hots for a family member.
    Wasn’t that you?
    no?

  426. KoolKell Says:

    GOV Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)

    At the Tea Party summit last weekend, we spoke to former Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-MN), a prospective GOP presidential candidate, about corporate tax cheats. Asked about Bank of America, another wildly profitable American bank that paid nothing in corporate taxes in 2009, Pawlenty simply relied “Well actually the corporate tax rate in Minnesota and around the country is too high.” Reminded several times that Bank of America doesn’t pay it’s corporate taxes, regardless of rates, Pawlenty said that both exemptions and rates should be lowered. However, he again emphasized that he was not troubled, or even aware, of corporate tax dodging, and that corporate tax rates should be reduced:

  427. Stak Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    To a lot of people: Taxes = taking care of black people.

    Pretty stupid.
    ********************

    Wonder why you seem obsessed with nationality comments.

    You wouldn’t happen to be black, by any chance, are you? If not, why make an issue? If so, why make an issue?

  428. Stak Says:

    # r8eray Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    YA, with no cap…I say pay him what he wants!!
    Its not my money!
    *****************’
    Circle of Life in the NFL says it is

  429. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Stak I have no words for you. Just something else. But you’re a coward so I’ll never see you anyway, so there’s no reason to respond to you. This will be the last one.

  430. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, no doubt the tea party is built on racism. Those who deny it are either in agreement with them and helping to keep their motives covert, or are too stupid to see it.

  431. phatcable Says:

    Oakland A’s center fielder Coco Crisp was arrested on suspicion of DUI late Tuesday night, according to Comcast SportsNet Bay Area.

    The statement released by the team: “Coco Crisp was arrested and detained early this morning under the suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol. He was released from the city of Scottsdale jail this morning and arrived at Phoenix Municipal Stadium on time for team pregame drills. The A’s are aware of the situation and take such matters seriously. The team and Coco will have no further comment until further details are available.”

  432. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m surprised Arizona has any money left to prosecute DUIs. You’d think they blew it all on immigration enforcement, considering their paranoia.

  433. phatcable Says:

    TUCSON, Ariz. — Forget calls for unity and common ground.

    The former Democratic Party chairman for Pima County is so fed up with Arizona’s conservative politics that he wants the county to secede and form a 51st state in southern Arizona.

    Paul Eckerstrom says he wants to restore the region’s credibility as a place that is welcoming to others. He and fellow Tucson attorney Peter Hormel have formed a political committee called Start Our State to explore process of making Pima County a separate state.

  434. Stak Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Stak I have no words for you. Just something else. But you’re a coward so I’ll never see you anyway, so there’s no reason to respond to you. This will be the last one.
    **********************
    Such a sensitive child. Asked you a question after you called someone a freak. Now you are getting your panties all in a bunch. Coward? You have to actually challenge someone to something, where they back out, in order to label them that.
    Watch. Show you how it works.
    I’ll be at Chevy’s, on Edgewater, in Foster City, at 1:00 Friday. Now you have the option of showing to act like a big boy, or earning the label you are quick to toss out.
    Simple, even for you.

  435. Stak Says:

    ZOWIE!!!!
    Guess it was you, RMR.
    No wonder you got pizzy.

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 1st, 2010 at 11:57 am
    Save it. Mark it. I’ve got a few fine cousins, only my generation or older, though. If they would, I would. Hell yes. Sorry. My junk has a mind of its own.

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 1st, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    My cousin Theresa has a perfect body at age 40 and this ridiculous pair of cans. Wanted to do her since I was a teenager. Don’t care what anyone thinks of it. You can bring it up every day. That’ll be my response.

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    June 1st, 2010 at 12:06 pm
    What hole am I in? Is there something wrong with wanting to do your cousins? Is that taboo? If so, Sorry. Don’t know what to say. I have two cousins, both older, I would do in a heartbeat. Wanted to do them since I was a teenager. You guys can bring it up every day.

  436. Stak Says:

    BTW, if you do show, can you bring your ridiculous pair cousin?

  437. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Arizona is undoubtedly ground zero for open racism in America today.

  438. phatcable Says:

    Stak you own rmr?

  439. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    PhatCable, how’s the Chevy’s in Foster City?

  440. Stak Says:

    Well Phat, if questioning someone’s comments, where they get all psycho and defensive on you, resulting in them begging you to leave them alone is owning them?

    Then I guess it’s ya.

    Until Friday, of course, at 1:00, Chevy’s, Edgewater, Foster City, where he’ll no doubt give me a piece of his mind, and if I’m lucky, his cousin.

  441. KoolKell Says:

    Stak, you slink back in here under a disguise claiming to own someone? Seriously?

  442. Stak Says:

    KoolKell? I didn’t claim anything. Read first.
    Phat asked me if I owner him.
    And what’s with the disguise?
    RMR tosses out insults. I questioned him, and he got all miffed. Not hard to follow.

  443. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kell, what are you doing Friday around 1?

  444. Stak Says:

    Wat’s with all the politic exchanges? There are political boards. Why fill up this football blog with political stuff?

  445. phatcable Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
    PhatCable, how’s the Chevy’s in Foster City?
    sorry im from sacramento near rosemont

  446. RaiderFanFromJersey Says:

    AJ Hawk released by Packers. Whataya think???
    He was scheduled to make $10M next season, GB said thanks but no thanks.

  447. phatcable Says:

    RaiderFanFromJersey Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
    AJ Hawk released by Packers. Whataya think???
    He was scheduled to make $10M next season, GB said thanks but no thanks.
    ……………….if he gets a hair cut!

  448. Stak Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    Kell, what are you doing Friday around 1?
    ***********************
    Kell?
    Is he your daddy?
    RMR tossed out the coward comments. I called your bluff.
    Now you want a proxy?

    I don’t think anyone cares to speak for you, RMR.
    You bowing out?

    How did I know that?

    Taking off from work. I’ll check back later to see if you plan on showing, RMR

  449. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Chevys Fresh Mex Restaurant
    3 star rating
    127 reviews Rating Details

    Category: Foster City, United States Restaurants Mexican Mexican [Edit]
    979 Edgewater Blvd
    Foster City, CA 94404

    7friends

    59reviews

    B. D.

    San Mateo, CA
    1 star rating
    2/15/2011

    Let me first start by saying that Chevy’s has been one of my favorite restaurants for 10 years… I celebrated my 21st birthday here and now CHEVY’S HAS FALLEN OFF MY FAVORITE RESTAURANT LIST.

    here’s my initial review after leaving the restaurant:

    Worst service ever on valentines. And they weren’t even busy. Drinks took too long. Food took forever. Check took even longer. WTF! First daly city Chevys on my ex list. I can now add this to the x list!

    Here’s my comment I left on their http://chevysfeedback.com site.

    It took us 5 minutes to be seated to a barely full dining room.

    Drink orders – husbands came first and waiter noted that they were out of the spice for the spicy mango margarita, I ordered a mango/strawberry margarita, but the server didn’t understand that the bar was out of MANGO. I ordered a pomegranate BLENDED… it came on ICE… took 30 minutes to get my first drink.

    CHILD ORDER – i ordered the cheese quesadilla and noted for VEGGIES not fries… order came with FRIES – i didn’t bother telling the server at this point, he seemed very incapable… SERVICE WAS VERY SLOW!!!! WORST EVER AND ON VALENTINE’S DAY NO LESS

    ADULT ENTREES: Came ONE HOUR after we were seated…. the dining room wasn’t even half full!!!! Salmon was over-cooked & dry… didn’t mention b/c we really couldn’t wait another hour for another entree.

    Child’s dessert. we asked for a candle to be placed on the ice cream for my daughter’s 2nd birthday… took 15 minutes to get the ice cream w/candle!!!!

    BILL: was charged for the mango margarita I originally ordered but NEVER got since you were 86 on the mango!!!! HE HAD TO REDO THE BILL!!!

    THIS IS BY FAR THE WORST CHEVY’S EXPERIENCE I EVER HAD AND IT’S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF CONVINCING FOR ME TO EVEN RETURN.

    ***In the summer of 2010 we went for lunch and I even found a pincher bug in one of the corn husks that is placed on the fajita plate with the corn… I told the manager, he comped the bill… should’ve never returned after this incident.

    ***I’ve even wrote their corporate office regarding the food quality and bad service at the daly city branch.. now adding this one to the DO NOT ENTER list.
    You’ll be sure to read this complaint on YELP!!!

  450. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    0friends

    1review

    Brad C.

    San Mateo, CA
    1 star rating
    2/16/2011

    I had the worst experience at chevys and I will never go back. It has the worst service ever. We waited an hour and fifteen to get our food and they never brang our soup or salad. They brang us chips four times and they had no salsa. We asked to see the manager and all he said was they were running 30-40 minutes behind. They also didnt try to comp our food or pay for our drinks. The resturant was empty and it still took forever. I will never go back.

  451. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Andrea C.

    San Mateo, CA
    1 star rating
    9/11/2010

    If I could put negative stars for this location I would! We have visited other Chevy’s restaurants and have been loyal customers for quite some time. However, we have tried this location three times and each time have received LOUSY service.

    Today was the topper of them all. We sat down and were provided with menus promptly. Then, chips and salsa were provided and waited ten minutes with no other wait staff approaching us to see if we needed water, soda, margarita, dirt….NOTHING. We waited for a long time and decided to leave. I did tell the manager, and he didn’t seem too surprised. He wanted my name and phone number saying that he “wanted to make it up to me”. I don’t think I will ever visit this Chevys again. El Torito and Celia’s are much better and will be receiving my business from now on.

  452. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Photo of Tousaint C.

    61friends

    12reviews

    Tousaint C.

    San Francisco, CA
    2 star rating
    2/3/2010

    Went there for lunch for a co-workers birthday and the service was beyond horrid. The place was pretty empty but it took ages for anything to get accomplished. We ordered our drinks and they came out fairly quickly. We then waited almost an hour before anyone offered to take our lunch order. As the waiter took our order, another couple sat down directly in front of us. The waiter got them their drinks and took their order as soon as they sat. They received their food, ate and was heading out the door by the time we received our lunch… After we ate our poorly put together food, it took an act of God to get the damned check.

    I must say, the view of the water is completely bliss but the service we received was total piss. Dine here if you dare!!!

  453. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    So, it looks like there’ll be no reason for me to bring my wallet to this dump. Looks like it sucks.

  454. phatcable Says:

    Supreme Court Upholds Westboro Baptist Church’s Right to Military Funeral Protests

  455. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Photo of Joseph F.

    Elite ‘11

    114friends

    152reviews

    Joseph F.

    San Francisco, CA
    2 star rating
    6/16/2009

    Mistakes. Don’t you just hate them?

    It’s lunch. I’m at work. I need comfort, joyand happiness at my lunch…. this chevy’s failed in all three.

    Comfort: my tortillas were not fresh. Yeah i said it. I mean, seriuosly, they hand them to me in a bag that has “fresh, warm” and other adjectives I look forward to in a tortilla and get NONE delivered. BOO. Also, I’m not that picky, but when you have 3 tables I’d hope you can refill my #$@amn coke at least ONCE during my meal.

    Joy: Dear lord this place had the good vibrations of police brutality.

    Happiness: this one is tough, (particuarly since it’s teh same as joy) mainly cause I’m at work and its hard ot make me happy. They didn’t even try! 16 bucks for a mediocre meal and a drink…

    next time I”ll go to Taqueria taqueria.

  456. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Photo of Melanie K.

    56friends

    100reviews

    Melanie K.

    CA
    2 star rating
    7/5/2009

    It’s Chevy’s.

    The margarita’s are good and the chips and salsa are great. And the tortillas from “el machino” are melt in your mouth yummy.

    Alas, I have to take points away for all the little league teams that are ALWAYS in this Chevy’s, making the atmosphere not-at-all relaxing. While I’ve had great service in the past (there used to be a waiter with a ponytail, a bit on the effeminate side and truly a talented person), typical service is slow slow SLOW. Um, especially when all the little league teams are there.

    It can take a long time to be seated. Waiting a long time at Chevy’s doesn’t do it for me.

    Anyway, it’s convenient and the food is okay. But I’d rather go to a taqueria and let the sports team’s have Chevy’s all to themselves.

  457. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Looks like he picked a place where there’d be a lot of little league teams. LOL. I might get jumped by his kid’s team.

  458. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I just tried to post another review and it has too many cuss words. LOL. Well, it must be a nice place if Stak goes there.

  459. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Redwood City, CA
    1 star rating
    3/20/2009

    One star because you can’t give zero.

    We were here last week on a weeknight and were seated right away. After that, everything went downhill.
    It was Happy Hour, but you can only order drinks off the Happy Hour menu if you’re seated at the bar.
    We ordered our food at 6:15.
    At 7:50, we left because our food still wasn’t ready; we weren’t the only ones. My husband and I counted at least 3 other tables that left after waiting an insanely long time for their orders. Our poor server kept apologizing and refilled our drinks and chips n’ salsa at least a half dozen times. She said that there was a problem with the kitchen?!
    We saw the manager at the hostess station when we arrived (he ignored every guest in the waiting area), and he was MIA the rest of the night.
    I’m not sure if they’re going out of business soon or what, but this place was a total joke. It’s too bad because they were a nice place to take the kids a year ago.

  460. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ha ha ^^^^ Looks like Stak’s little spot is going out of business. Like I said, no need to bring my wallet.

  461. phatcable Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
    So, it looks like there’ll be no reason for me to bring my wallet to this dump. Looks like it sucks.
    …………..so you used all that foreskin on mr winkie and made yourself a wallet.

  462. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    James F.

    San Mateo, CA
    2 star rating
    6/30/2008 12 photos

    Chevy’s is what I consider Mexican Denny’s. The only thing Mexican in the restaurant is the staff. They are the real deal, the food is not.

    I would prefer Pancho Villa in downtown San Mateo, but sometimes, I get lazy and settle for something close to home, MexiDenny’s. The food isn’t great, but it’s close to my house. Many, many years ago, they had a dish called Yucatan. I recall the waitress who waited on me was blond hair blue eye/Swedish looking. When I told her I wanted the Yucatan, she said, great, and repeated my order to me in perfect English until she said Yucatan. It went something like this:

    Me: I would like one order of Yuctan.

    Her: In perfect English, “Great! that will be one order of YU-KA THON.” She would say it with curled tongue and emphasize the Hispanic accent. I loved it cuz it was so novel, to have a Blond hair blue eye person speak English with no accent until she said “YU-KA-THON.”Kinda like when the retired Channel 4 reporter says, “Reporting live from SAHN-HOSAY (San Jose), this is RICCO CHA-KHON (Rico Chacon) for Channel 4 news.

    B4 I forget, the service here is a joke. Pretty bad. I come here maybe once every 6 months, if that. Used to come here a lot more long ago when they had the YU-KA-THON, and better service.

  463. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I think James might be Stak ^^^

  464. phatcable Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
    Ha ha ^^^^ Looks like Stak’s little spot is going out of business. Like I said, no need to bring my wallet.
    ……………….wallet or do you mean purse?

  465. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I don’t use a purse I’m not a damn woman, boy.

  466. PassTheCheetos Says:

    Whats up with all the chevys reviews? I dont need reviews to know they suck.

  467. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I was finding out where Chevy’s in Foster City is, and Yelp review site was one of the first links. Just thought it was funny that so many people think it sucks. It sounds like a dump. Just wanted to know what to expect in case I ever visit.

  468. Stak Says:

    Should have just said you’re all talk, RMR.
    you spend all that time to look for a way out?
    Look at you, pretending you won’t show now because you actually thought you were being invited to eat, and you were looking for reviews?

  469. Stak Says:

    So we established you’re a coward.
    Ok, we know that.
    Now explain you being a freak for your cousin?

  470. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 6:28 pm
    I don’t use a purse I’m not a damn woman, boy

    **

    Whoa, looks like somebody hit a nerve…

    Anyway, what up MR?

  471. J Hill Says:

    Nick Miller tweeted he’s been resigned. They have a profile on him at Raiders.com, so it’s probably true.

  472. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Safety Jerome Boyd returns to the Oakland Raiders:

    *******

    We are in good hands now.

  473. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    1. Zach Miller, Oakland Raiders

    Age as of September 1st 2011: 25

    2010 Grade: +7.4

    Key Stat: His 303 yards after the catch was eighth best for tight ends

    Behind The Numbers: Early in the season, Miller had one of the best five-game runs we’ve seen from a tight end. In that span, he was thrown at 38 times, caught 26 balls for 363 yards (with 179 coming after contact), scored four touchdowns, and earned a +5.6 run blocking grade. He hit a lull mid season, but picked it up again at the end. Approaching elite status, he is adept at catching the underneath pass and can block for both run and pass plays, a rare combination for tight ends.

  474. RaiderDogg Says:

    Could Raiders Be Interested In Vernon Gholston?
    By Chuck Carroll March 1, 2011 – 11:12 pm

    Monday brought with it pink slips for New York Jets players Damien Woody, Kris Jenkins, Jason Taylor and Vernon Gholston.

    Tuesday brought with it a new day for the quad to find a new home.

    The most appealing of the four players is Gholston despite his “draft bust” status. The 24-year-old clearly has plenty left in his tank if he proves he can perform at the NFL level.

    As the former No. 6 overall pick in the draft, he is sure to get looks from around the league. Among the teams who could be interested in him are the Oakland Raiders.

    As ESPN’s Bill Williamson points out, Al Davis is big on former first-round picks. Gholston would come at a low price as he tries to shake the “bust” title. After opening up the checkbook early in the offseason, a lower price tag could be a refreshing change of pace.

  475. phatcable Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    I was finding out where Chevy’s in Foster City is, and Yelp review site was one of the first links. Just thought it was funny that so many people think it sucks. It sounds like a dump. Just wanted to know what to expect in case I ever visit.
    ……………………….i remember you from that restaurant it was in the mens room you handed me a towel and i gave you a quarter.

  476. JB Says:

    Gholston would be worth a shot at NFL minimum. Maybe he can flourish when mentored with the likes of Seymour, Kelly, Houston, Shonasty, Wimbley & Mcclain. If Nnamdi is still around, he too could act as a role model. I’m not sold on Groves, or Brown. I think he’s definitely worth a try-on.

  477. Thec07 Says:

    Yeah I would take a run at the ghost. He played in a 4-3 in college…Wouldnt cost us much…

  478. Thec07 Says:

    thats it for me…LTR NATION…

  479. JB Says:

    Vernon Gholston 6′3″ 260# 4.58/40, 37 reps of BP. Could he be converted to FB? He’s got speed & strength. I just wonder if he could become a dual purpose player. That way we could use Reece at back-up TE if necessary.

  480. YoungAmerican Says:

    Let’s not get crazy here. Gholston couldn’t even figure out how to be a single purpose player.

  481. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Draft Day Could Bring Family Reunion For Raiders
    By Chuck Carroll»Football News Now Staff Writer» March 2, 2011 – 11:31 pm

    Forget speed. The Raiders could be focusing on legacy at next month’s NFL Draft. In fact, there could be a full on family reunion.

    Penn State offensive lineman Stefen Wisniewski is thought by many to be a lock for the team’s first pick, the 48th overall.

    The Nittany Lion is the nephew of Raiders great Steve Wisniewski who was recently hired as an assistant offensive line coach.

    The younger “Wiz” stated at the NFL combine that it would be “awesome” to be drafted by the Raiders.

    Still, there are those who believe the team will draft a quarterback with the first pick. We just don’t see Hue Jackson and Al Davis going that route with their praise of Jason Campbell time and again.

  482. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    480.YoungAmerican Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 8:47 pm
    Let’s not get crazy here. Gholston couldn’t even figure out how to be a single purpose player.

    ****************

    LMAO… yep

  483. Stak Says:

    Al would have praised JC regardless of how he played, just to not lose face with Shanarat.
    Same with Russell “He’s a great qb, Kiffin. Get over it”

  484. JB Says:

    Zero chance of drafting QB with their first pick. I don’t think Wiz 2.0 is the first pick either – maybe the second. There are too many better choices of O-linemen that should be there at #48. Wiz 2.0, while with the nice family tree, doesn’t have the lower end strength we need. He might develop but our first pick needs to become a starter day 1. Who we pick will not be firm until we see if AD picks up any other FA O-linemen first. If Gallery stays and AD goes for Gaither at OLT, we could see Veldheer move to center, see BCampbell, Loper or even Walker slip into ORG and then we’d need to draft an ORT or use MHendrson there. That’s definitely not Wiz 2.0 territory. Or, we might see Walker at ORG and BCampbell at ORT. Who knows? Like I said, it all depends on what AD does in the interim. Somehow I don’t think he’s going to be quiet this year. I expect a lot of FA activity.

  485. RaiderRetribution Says:

    I would rather go after Moch in the draft than Gholsten.

  486. RaiderRetribution Says:

    JB- I agree in going after Wisniewski with our 3rd round pick, even if it means making a trade to move our 3rd round pick to a late second round.

    I like the idea of drafting Cannon or Hudson in the second or moving up our 2nd round to the 1st round and going after the U’s Brandon Harris [other than him we should stay at #48 or move back].

    In fact I like the idea of moving back and acquiring more picks this year.

    We should absolutely not trade away our 1st or second round picks next year for any picks this year.

  487. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    JB, it would be better to get Wiz in the third, I agree.

    Maybe we trade back pick up a extra 3rd/4th and still get Wiz.

    At any rate, there should still be some good D-line/O-line left in the second.

    If we moved up 6-10 spots there will be some great options. I think.

    OL/DL
    Benjamin Ijalana

    Mike Pouncey

    Muhammad Wilkerson

    Stephen Paea

    Cameron Heyward

    even QB’s

    Kaepernickelll

    Ponder

    Locker

    Mullett

  488. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    486.RaiderRetribution Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
    JB- I agree in going after Wisniewski with our 3rd round pick, even if it means making a trade to move our 3rd round pick to a late second round.

    I like the idea of drafting Cannon or Hudson in the second or moving up our 2nd round to the 1st round and going after the U’s Brandon Harris [other than him we should stay at #48 or move back].

    In fact I like the idea of moving back and acquiring more picks this year.

    We should absolutely not trade away our 1st or second round picks next year for any picks this year.

    ***************

    Trading next years pick would be a GREAT idea if a player we need/want is there! This team needs to win NOW we have a good yound core, we need a couple vets @ keys spots, and “START NOW” draft picks. Wich will require more early picks. Our 2012 1st rounder should net us a mid first 17-23 this year!

    Trevor Scott, and Mario Hedo should be used ad bait also.

  489. The Real MachoMachoSupremo Says:

    468.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    I was finding out where Chevy’s in Foster City is, and Yelp review site was one of the first links. Just thought it was funny that so many people think it sucks. It sounds like a dump. Just wanted to know what to expect in case I ever visit.
    ——————————————–
    You put down Mr. Davis and the way he runs his business, now your finding negatives for a restuarant business, whats next? These folks just tryin to make a living and you gotta put them down? If Al Davis wasn’t trying to earn a living running a football team, you wouldn’t have the Oakland Raiders. And if this restuarant owner wasn’t trying to make a living in the food business, you’d probably find another business to rag on, like a hamburger place or something.

  490. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Ricky Stanzi would be worth a look in the 4th??!!

  491. The Real MachoMachoSupremo Says:

    Wiz would be a nice plug for the leaky o-line.

  492. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    DeMarcus Van Dyke sounds like a good pick in the 5/6

  493. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Without a CBA, we must not trade away next years draft picks for this years.

  494. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    RR we WILL have a salary cap in 2012 porb not in 2011.

    Unless there is a real good 2012 rookie wage cap, I say trade the 2012 IF our guy is there.

  495. RaiderRetribution Says:

    my draft board in order of preference, but not by much (includes only players we have a reasonable shot at without moving up):

    1) Cannon
    2) Hudson
    3) Wisniewski
    4) Paea
    5) trade down if either none or more than one is still available and then that many spots.

  496. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Packers And A.J. Hawk Reach New Five-Year deal

  497. RaiderRetribution Says:

    but this season may be shortened too much for these picks to matter, these rookies will be out of fotball for a significant length of time.

  498. The Dirtee Raccoon Says:

    Good point RR. Maybe you are right.

  499. JB Says:

    According to twitter: NickMiller89
    Back with the Raiders for the 2011 season! Excited to be back with the #RaiderNation

    Actually, I’d like to see more of the little guy. He has great hands and always seems to find a way of getting open. He just seems to never get a chance to play. Maybe 2011 will be his year.

  500. JB Says:

    How about Gaither, Gallery, Veldheer, BCampbell & MHenderson as a starting power line-up? Would definitely be an upgrade over what we have now. Will AD pick up Gaither? It is in the area of possibilities. That would still leave Loper, Satele, Barnes, Walker & Carlisle as potential backups.

  501. The Real Al Davis MachoMachoSupremo Says:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/02/SPNF1I2EJO.DTL

    Threefold brilliance by Al Davis. This might upset some bloggers and nfl owners, but Al is smiling while all his money collects interest.

  502. JB Says:

    #501

    Good article and right on point. Al is gearing up to win. Playoffs in 2011, championship by 2012 & SB by 2013. At least that what is says on Al’s desk calendar.

  503. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s a great morning to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    Al Davis is getting it done.

    No other owner or organization has been as aggressive as Al…

    …and whether or not he’s overpaying to keep his core players won’t even be known until the new CBA hits, and the chips fall where they may. Somehow, me thinks the players who were due to get big raises will be getting them…and I hope a few more here get raises (or come here to get them).

    It’s time to win now.

    Al is doing what Al does best…attack. Fokk the owners who are sitting idly by…they should be using the rules that are in place in their favor.

    Al is building a winner.

  504. HayesDaze37 Says:

    A few moves by other teams in the last couple days were undoubtedly influenced by Al’s recent moves. Maybe just by showing them they could have the ball$ to do something before the deadline hit.

  505. HayesDaze37 Says:

    How ’bout that Combine, eh?

  506. RaiderRetribution Says:

    JB, Al makes moves to win the Super Bowl every year!

  507. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Hayes, the league sent in their NYGiants owner to get things moving along.

    They will still need Al to get the CBA signed on the bottom line, because as you said Al gets things done.

    There is probably one owner [other than Al]who wants to make there is a season this year and that is the NYGiants [and Jets] owner, because the Super Bowl is in their city this season.

    No Season in 2011 = No Super Bowl in New York!

  508. RaiderRetribution Says:

    nix that I need to correct myself Super Bowl XLVI for 2012 is in Indianapolis

  509. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Hey, it’s late (early), so why not a hypothetical…

    (I know the wrath of Dakota will be on me)

    …what if Miami wanted to trade for a proven RB? What if they were willing to give up their #1 (#15) plus another pick (next year’s 3rd maybe) for say…DMC?

    We then go get Mark Ingram…one of the NFL’s next superstar RB’s. He could be the sturdy and healthy RB to complement Mike Bush…and make the Raiders’ running the toughest/most physical in the League.

    Just some late night drinkin’ thinkin’…but interesting to go over all the potentials out there.

  510. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Probably more important than anything else…is that the NYGiants have the old-school NFL connection, something that is necessary in these talks. If Al were a little more spry, I bet he’d be champin’ at the bit to be involved in these talks at crunch time. As it is, you can bet the Owners all have a pretty good idea of just how the CBA will work out…even with all the posturing.

  511. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Fact is…no matter what happens with the new CBA:

    THE OWNERS HAVE ALREADY VIOLATED THE CBA THAT IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE…

    …to the tune of tens of millions, and possibly more than $100 Million $$ of potential Player revenue lost.

    All because they did not bargain in good faith…a large part of that is proven by their negotiating payments DOWN as opposed to up. All to build a lock-out chest to stay afloat after they did the deed. And that’s just one of the problems the Owners have.

    The Players have the Owners over a barrel…and the Owners better get it together, before the Players end up OWNING a bigger chunk of the NFL.

  512. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Those of you who live in the peninsula, from Sacramento, is it faster to take 80 through SF, or cut through the east bay and take the San Mateo bridge? Also, what’s traffic like on Friday morning, heading westbound?

  513. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Got a lunch date, MR?

  514. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Or are you running away from something?

  515. HayesDaze37 Says:

    What’s traffic like on Friday morning?? Ummm, hello…have you ever driven around here? Ever??

  516. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Just haven’t been to the peninsula in a while. Can’t a man visit some of the finer areas of his state? I’d like to get there early because I can imagine what the traffic’s like in the afternoon. You familiar with the Sacramento commute to the peninsula, Hayez? Just want to know the fastest way. Particularly to San Mateo.

  517. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m from Sacramento, Hayez. Not from the bay area. Never commuted to the bay in the morning. I’d really like to get to San Mateo by about, say, 1pm or so. Beat the afternoon traffic.

  518. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Take either route you’re contemplating after 10:00 AM and you’re flying…

  519. HayesDaze37 Says:

    But…I do not regularly commute.

    I commend you for wanting to see more of the most beautiful state in the Union…and the local businesses there will appreciate your patronage. As will the petrol companies you love so much…

  520. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    From the reviews I’ve read I’m sure the Chevy’s I might be going to could use my business, that’s for sure. I don’t think they get much of a class clientele there.

  521. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Now, you know you’re not being fair to that chain restaurant. Their overall rating was far above the selected foul write-ups you pasted. Chevy’s are what they are…they’re a mall-chain company, and nothing more.

    That blonde who worked in there was probably cute, too.

  522. HayesDaze37 Says:

    Well…I threw a couple topics up on the board for the AM crew to chew on.

    I gotta get some ZZZzzz’s…and KK isn’t here to bore to sleep, so it might take a little longer than I’d like.

    !!!

    It’s a great morning to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

  523. GoodOle00 Says:

    Is Ras I Dowling on the Raiders radar?

    6-2, 200 lb CB 4.4 forty

  524. Carl Weathers Says:

    JB Says:
    March 2nd, 2011 at 10:18 pm
    #501

    Good article and right on point. Al is gearing up to win. Playoffs in 2011, championship by 2012 & SB by 2013. At least that what is says on Al’s desk calendar.
    *********
    JB is Tom Cable? We’re not losers anymore! Al is thinking SB for 2011 season, 2012, 2013…

    At least that’s what he should be thinking. Winning!!

  525. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Nnamdi your 111 post

    I have to go with DHB, although I can see Mr. Bryant excelling, especially if the raiders trade one of their other DLs away.

  526. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Carl Weathers, Retribution…
    What’s up fellas?

  527. bcz24 Says:

    GB released Hawk… wish we could jump on that! Kam McClain and Hawk as our LBs. Pretty bad a$$ if you ask me!

    Morning Nation

  528. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Bcz24! hat shocked the he!! outta me when I read that from Schefter yesterday! But he could still be a Packer! Funny how Brady Quinn got teed off about it huh? But anyways, yes that would be a great lb crew!!!

  529. Carl Weathers Says:

    Tick tock, tick tock…

    Ok, draft is coming up, if you could draft a former Raider out of the following, who would you choose?

    a)Terry McDaniel
    b)John Ritchie
    c)Chester McGlockton
    d)Ronald Curry

  530. hwnrdr Says:

    My favorite letter when guessing on multiple choice questions…
    c.) McGlockton

  531. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    TERRY MCDANIEL..SLAM DUNK..

  532. bcz24 Says:

    Terry McDaniels! He could replace Nnamdi, and he would get some INTs!

    AJ Hawk is a business deal. They werent going to pay the guy $10.5 million. They release and resign him at half that and everyones happy… they were smart too, because they dropped him late on Wednesday, knowing the CBA expires at 11:59pm Eastern today. No other team would have time to get Hawk in and get him signed in time.

  533. r8dercain Says:

    Terry mc Daniels all day long

  534. hwnrdr Says:

    That is true! Unless something happens! Yeah, doubt it!
    And McDaniels, true, he could replace Nnam, but wasn’t he like Nnam though in having a couple years to get that way (Seriously don’t remember), and wasn’t Chester good coming out of college? I think my brain has gone bye bye…probably need to unplug and cleanse! :)

  535. hwnrdr Says:

    LOL, now I remember…I was overseas when he was drafted! Sorry…

  536. hwnrdr Says:

    When do you guys think the new CBA will be in place? Is there a lockout? Gawd, I hope not, but seriously what can we do? No consideration for us fans!

  537. bcz24 Says:

    I think if the ruling against the NFL about the TV money holds up then a new CBA will be in place by the draft. It will be crippling to some teams to not have a free agency, not be able to sign the players you draft, not have an offseason program, new coaches cant institute their ideas… way too much that has to happen. I believe that by draft day, if nothing else, they will agree to use the 2010 cba for another year until the deal is done.

  538. Carl Weathers Says:

    McDaniels was good from the start of his career.

    Ritchie would help a lot with a turnover coming at OL.

    McGlockton would be a beast with the supporting cast on this D.

    Curry I think took a few years to get on the field but had great hands and would be a good fit today whne he was on top of his game.

    a)McDaniel

  539. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THERE WILL BE GAMES LOST TO THIS MESS HWNRDR.PRE-SEASON OR INTO THE REGULAR SEASON I DONT KNOW.THESE THINGS SEEM 2 ALWAY’S TURN INTO A PISS’N MATCH TO SEE WHO IS STRONGER,GAMES WILL BE LOST B4 THEY REALISE BOTH SIDES R SERIOUS..

  540. hwnrdr Says:

    Thanks Carl Weathers! I serioulsy did not remember if McDaniel was a beast straight out of college and I always did like Curry, but where is he now? Is he on that Omaha team with the rest of the former Raiders?
    Bcz24, I hope you’re right, but for some strange reason…I may have to go with Dirt Lot on that one!

  541. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    NOBODY MAKES MOMEY ON THESE THINGS BUT THE LAWYERS…

  542. hwnrdr Says:

    And the lawyers DO NOT care!

  543. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    U GOT THAT RIGHT HWNRDR.I HOPE I’M WRONG ON GAMES LOST,BUT AS U SAID,THE FAN’S R THE LEAST OF THERE WORRIES..

  544. Carl Weathers Says:

    Is the schedule out yet? I hope we don’t lose the Bills game, I’m hittin that one!

  545. hwnrdr Says:

    The schedule usually comes out in April, but you never know!

  546. M Lonetree Says:

    not to worry, the Lingerie Football League wiil play on.
    Vice President of the LFL, ex-Raider Bob Golic said that the scantily-clad females will switch their games from Fridays to Sundays to fill the void in the event of a prolonged NFL lock-out.

  547. bcz24 Says:

    Carl Weathers Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 6:54 am
    Is the schedule out yet? I hope we don’t lose the Bills game, I’m hittin that one!
    ***************
    Ill see ya there!

    The reason I say the deal will be done is because the owners are NOT going to let that $4 billion in TV money sit untouched this year. That was their Ace with this lockout, and the feds just took it away.

  548. hwnrdr Says:

    The Lingerie Football League? Nice M…lol

  549. M Lonetree Says:

    Bcz24,

    from what I have been led to believe, one solid reason the owners have for a lockout is to get rid of Judge Doty who has been presiding over NFL labor matters since 1987 (always ruling in favor of the players).
    A lock-out and subsequent decertification by the NFLPA means that Judge Doty’s reign will be over.

  550. M Lonetree Says:

    Hwnrdr,

    all the news that fit to print!

    aloha kakahiaka

  551. bcz24 Says:

    A lock-out and subsequent decertification by the NFLPA means that Judge Doty’s reign will be over.
    *****
    Oh I am aware of the NFL desperately trying to get rid of Doty (he even ruled in Vicks favor on keeping the @20 million signing bonus). Thing is, I dont think the NFL will get this appeal overturned.

  552. hwnrdr Says:

    Aloha Kakahiaka M

  553. bcz24 Says:

    Stop talking in Hawaiian dammit! I have been DYING to go back since the minute I left Maui 5 years ago! Oh how I miss you Napili Point

  554. hwnrdr Says:

    Napili point…nice! Did you live on Maui?

  555. Dakota Says:

    Oh how I miss kaanapali beach. It has been almost 9 years since I was there.

  556. Dakota Says:

    That BYU player was booted off the team for having
    s
    e
    x
    !

    Too funny.

  557. bcz24 Says:

    Nah my brother got married in Maui. Spent 9 days there for the wedding and festivities. Literally the best vacation of my life, and its not even close! LOL. It was absolutely amazing. I will retire there.

  558. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah, Maui is more of a relaxing island compared to Oahu. And Dakota, I miss Kaanapali beach too! Great bars…lol along the stretch of Honoapiilani Hwy! Say that 10 times fast!

  559. Dakota Says:

    bcz24,

    Did you take the road to Hana, visit the seven sacred pools, swim with the sea turtles and snorkel or dive Molokini crater?

    Damn, I wish I was back there.

  560. Dakota Says:

    Yes great bars in that area Hwnrdr. I was there in 2002 and the Lakers were playing the Kings in the western conference finals…..watched the Kings win the all important game 5 at a bar….but I couldn’t stay pissed too long….I was in Maui after all!

  561. Dakota Says:

    I do have to say that the water and sea life around the Bahamas is much nicer than the water and sea life around Maui…..but Maui itself blows Nassau away.

  562. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah it does take you to serenity, right?
    Last time I was there was for a friends wedding back in 96 or 97. Been too long…and I still lived on Oahu til 2001…

  563. bcz24 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 7:45 am
    bcz24,

    Did you take the road to Hana, visit the seven sacred pools, swim with the sea turtles and snorkel or dive Molokini crater?

    Damn, I wish I was back there.
    ***********
    Yup did the road to Hana, swam with the sea turtles the very first morning I was there, but I cut my foot really badly on some rocks, so I couldnt go in the ocean the rest of the trip. I went 4 wheeling on Haliakila… however you spell that volcano, lol. Took a helicopter ride around the island and got hundreds of arial photos, which was sweet. Did a lot of hangin out, didnt do too many bars, but we did run into Chris Berman at one (my brother literally ran into him…)

  564. r8eray Says:

    Buenos Dias Raider Nation!

  565. KoolKell Says:

    Not a lot of news at the Combine, eh Jerry?

  566. KoolKell Says:

    I snorkeled Molokini with a White Tip.

  567. hwnrdr Says:

    Haleakala! Have you ever been there at sunrise? At the top when its clear (no clouds)?

  568. Dakota Says:

    568.KoolKell Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 8:29 am
    I snorkeled Molokini with a White Tip.
    ___________

    A few of my buddies dove Molokini while I and some others snorkeled above. The divers have video of a shark swimming right below me and the entire time I was on the lookout for sharks and NEVER saw it.

  569. Just Win Baby Says:

    I spent a few days in Kumoniwannalaya.

  570. DMAC Says:

    Morning peoples!
    Raiders signed S Jerome Boyd to a reserve/future contract.
    A former undrafted free agent out of Oregon, Boyd has the look of a gunner and deep reserve at strong safety at 6-foot-2 and 225 pounds. The 25-year-old (in May) spent most of last season on the Raiders’ practice squad.
    Source: FOX Sports NFL Buzz

  571. KoolKell Says:

    I used to have a psychotic fear of sharks. But at Molokini, that White Tip came up but he wasn’t interested.

    Then off Wailea in about 60 feet of water, there were about 50 White Tips laying on the bottom. I had drifted about 75 yards from the boat……..Green Turtles (Tiger Food) yikes. I had to get out.

    Never been to the Caribbean proper, I don’t count Cancun.

  572. DMAC Says:

    Jets released TE Ben Hartsock.
    The move takes New York off the hook for a $1.6 million salary. Hartsock, 30, is strictly a blocking tight end and performed that role admirably last season. The Jets might try to bring him back at closer to a minimum base pay.
    ==========
    Wouldn’t mind bringing him in at the vets minimum. A true blocking TE.

  573. bcz24 Says:

    hwnrdr Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 8:34 am
    Haleakala! Have you ever been there at sunrise? At the top when its clear (no clouds)?
    ******
    It was like 7am when we drove up there. It was really beautiful, but REALLY COLD. I was a little hungover so the pressure changes going up to that altitude made me a little sick… lol. I really wanted to do the bike ride thing where they drive you to the top and you ride a bike all the way down. That would have been cool.

  574. Dakota Says:

    Breaking News:

    Raiders re-signed Zach Miller for 5 years $52 million and Michael Bush for 4 years $22 million.

  575. Dakota Says:

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/03/SPNF1I2EJO.DTL

  576. DMAC Says:

    I don’t ever believe schit you say Dakota.

  577. Dakota Says:

    Would someone please kill Qaddafi already so gas prices go back down?!?!?!?!

    Thanks.

  578. DMAC Says:

    Panthers extended restricted free agent tenders to CB Richard Marshall, TE Jeff King, LB James Anderson, QB Matt Moore, S Marcus Hudson, and WR David Clowney.
    All of the above players have at least four accrued seasons, so none of the tenders is likely to stick. The level of the tenders is also unknown. Marshall is thought to be especially likely to exit Carolina. A five-year vet, the 26-year-old has sought a long-term extension for the last three offseasons.
    Related: Matt Moore, Marcus Hudson, David Clowney, James Anderson, Jeff King
    Source: Rock Hill Herald
    ============
    Nnamdi’s possible replacement????????

  579. DMAC Says:

    Dakota,
    How much are you paying at the pump?

  580. Dakota Says:

    Just under $3.50

  581. DMAC Says:

    average in Oakland is about $3.80

  582. bcz24 Says:

    $3.79 a gallon for 93 octane this morning.

  583. DMAC Says:

    93 octane is close to $4

  584. buckeyeraider Says:

    ‘Sup fellas.

    I see all these other players getting tagged just in case. Why hasn’t Al slapped tenders on Bush, Miller, Gallery and Satele.

    That would at least insure compensation if they leave, and more importantly the right to match any offer, right?

    He’s been busy handing out lucrative deals, but is he going to use tenders?

    Maybe, he’s just waiting till the last minute, while attempting to make long term deals. I don’t know.

    Making me nervous. Greedy…wanna keep Bush, Miller AND Satele.

  585. YoungAmerican Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Jets released TE Ben Hartsock.
    The move takes New York off the hook for a $1.6 million salary. Hartsock, 30, is strictly a blocking tight end and performed that role admirably last season. The Jets might try to bring him back at closer to a minimum base pay.
    ==========
    Wouldn’t mind bringing him in at the vets minimum. A true blocking TE.

    ———————-

    The Steelers’ Matt Spaeth is also a free agent. Although they might have slapped an RFA tender on him, I’m not sure.

  586. DMAC Says:

    YA,
    I’m good w/ either Harstock or Spaeth. Not to convinced on Myers. Although he played well in special teams.

  587. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Ben Hartsock? Matt Spaeth?

    why are you guys writing off Brandon Myers so quickly???

    I only remember him dropping 1 pass last year and according to Jhill & JFB … he’s 3 times the blocker Zach Miller is!

  588. edward teach Says:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/For-DBs-straight-line-speed-is-less-important-t;_ylt=AozTZ.XtEg2V4KEEg.6MsDY5nYcB?urn=nfl-328892

    Stanford Routt on the physical and mental requirements of playing cornerback in the NFL.

  589. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Why hasn’t Al slapped tenders on Bush, Miller, Gallery and Satele?

    ***

    Buckeye,

    Gallery & Satele are zbs guys. Hand picked by Tom Cable to be LG & C for his O-Line. Gallery stunk in a power blocking scheme his first 3 years in the league. Same thing with Satele in Miami

    neither player will be back. neither will Langston Walker.

    Carlisle is going to be released to make room for Bruce Campbell in the starting line-up

    4 new starters on the O-Line!!!

  590. RaiderRockstar Says:

    so the Raiders have re-signed both Nick Miller & Jerome Boyd?

    I guess every team needs camp fodder and practice squad players …

  591. Dakota Says:

    Routt has a big contract after 5 years of mostly bad play and suddenly we are supposed to care about what he says?

    Bring back Nnamdi!

  592. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Michael Vick is a GREAT QB.

    ***

    Davy Jones,

    I would say that Vick is a “good” QB or an exceptional athlete. He does not belong in the following upper echelon category of QB’s

    Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, Matt Schaub, Big Ben, etc

  593. edward teach Says:

    Routt is better than an awful lot of other corners in the league, Dakota, whether you think he is or not.

    He’s not a Pro Bowler or anything, but he has been in the league for awhile and just might have a little insight on the physical and mental requirements of the job.

    Do yourself a favor and read the article.

  594. DMAC Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Ben Hartsock? Matt Spaeth?

    why are you guys writing off Brandon Myers so quickly???

    I only remember him dropping 1 pass last year and according to Jhill & JFB … he’s 3 times the blocker Zach Miller is!
    =========
    I only remember him catching 2 balls when Miller was out, but I do remember him making a few plays on special teams.

  595. DKnight007 Says:

    589.RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 10:05 am
    Why hasn’t Al slapped tenders on Bush, Miller, Gallery and Satele?

    ***

    Buckeye,

    Gallery & Satele are zbs guys. Hand picked by Tom Cable to be LG & C for his O-Line. Gallery stunk in a power blocking scheme his first 3 years in the league. Same thing with Satele in Miami

    neither player will be back. neither will Langston Walker.

    Carlisle is going to be released to make room for Bruce Campbell in the starting line-up

    4 new starters on the O-Line!!!

    ^^^^^^^
    Nope….having 4 new starters on the O-Line would be a stupid move after the success they had running the football last season.

    Hue Jackson even said it himself, he is not getting rid of the ZBS completely. He will mix up blocking schemes depending on the situation and matchups.

  596. YoungAmerican Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Ben Hartsock? Matt Spaeth?

    why are you guys writing off Brandon Myers so quickly???

    I only remember him dropping 1 pass last year and according to Jhill & JFB … he’s 3 times the blocker Zach Miller is!

    ————-

    Haha I have a feeling you’re being sarcastic, but truly I can never tell around these parts…

    Either way, Myers could develop into a good young player and is a solid special teamer. He has surprisingly decent hands for a guy who was drafted mainly to be a depth guy.

    Still, for a team that values TEs as much as the Raiders do, having only two on the roster (and then Khalif Barnes?) doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

    Spaeth is 6′7, 270 pounds, so he’d more or less be another offensive lineman in two-TE sets. He could be an asset for the Raiders in both run blocking and pass protection.

    I think he could be a good, inexpensive signing. Although I’m not sure how many of Al Davis’ signings end up being inexpensive…

  597. anthonyraiders Says:

    The raiders need a d-lineman that can stop the run. 29th against the run, if we stopped the run last year we would have won eleven games. We dont need a damn reciever and corner can wait till later rounds. D-line and O-line and maybe a fourth round olb.

  598. Dakota Says:

    595.edward teach Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 10:14 am
    Routt is better than an awful lot of other corners in the league, Dakota, whether you think he is or not.

    He’s not a Pro Bowler or anything, but he has been in the league for awhile and just might have a little insight on the physical and mental requirements of the job.

    Do yourself a favor and read the article.
    ++++++++++

    No. I am too bitter about losing Nnamdi. I’ll read the article if Nnamdi is re-signed. Until then I thumb my nose at Routt and his newfound supporters.

  599. JB Says:

    Dakota Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Breaking News:

    Raiders re-signed Zach Miller for 5 years $52 million and Michael Bush for 4 years $22 million
    ***************************

    For real or are you just blowing smoke up our A$$e$?

    If for real, GREAT!

  600. YoungAmerican Says:

    The draft will determine which of the FA offensive linemen get re-signed. Gallery will probably have options elsewhere if he’s so inclined, though.

    Satele wasn’t terrible in Miami. The knock on him there is the same knock on him here – he has problems in pass protection against bigger interior linemen.

    Still, he’s a more than adequate depth guy – and assuming the Raiders can’t come away from the draft with a guy who is an obvious Day 1 starter at C, having Satele around wouldn’t be a bad thing. Even if it’s just to compete with a rookie and give the Raiders a reliable fallback option who has experience with the team and coaching staff.

  601. DMAC Says:

    Believe me when I say this………
    Satele is not the weak link on the O-line. He did start off pretty slow, but definitely finished off the season strong. We need a new RT. Walker wasn’t too bad in his run blocks, but was too slow and terrible at pass blocking.

  602. bcz24 Says:

    Theres an article on ESPN. Bob Gallery wants out.

  603. bcz24 Says:

    No. I am too bitter about losing Nnamdi. I’ll read the article if Nnamdi is re-signed. Until then I thumb my nose at Routt and his newfound supporters.
    *******
    I am officially placing you on the Routt Rue the Day list…

  604. DMAC Says:

    FK Gallery.
    Go up North w/ Cable.
    Loper did just fine w/ out you.

  605. YoungAmerican Says:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6178205

    Yep, hopefully they keep Loper around. He seemed to do pretty well for himself.

    Looks like the Raiders will be taking at least one OG in the draft.

  606. anthonyraiders Says:

    Well gallery has been getting hurt alot the last couple years, but the line plays alot better when hes there. That saying he just might be the product of the zone blocking system. i dont know but if jackson still plans to use the z-block system and we lose gallery, finding a replacement will be hard. So hopefully the raiders do go more power and loper could be a replacement with his size and power.

  607. HayesDaze37 Says:

    It’s still a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!

    Some people talk about Gallery like he’s some kind of wimp, or as if he isn’t physical enough. Any talk of the sort is nonsense. Gallery has become one of the most versatile Guards in the NFL…and he’s plenty physical enough for whatever blocking scheme thrown his way, especially so with mixing-up schemes.

    It’s time to throw away memories of his days at Tackle, and realize just how hard it is to find a quality Guard in this here League. We’ve got one of the better ones at the position…and if he’s relatively affordable, there’s simply no reason to let Gallery go.

    Also…with the emergence of Veldheeer, we’ve got one of the better left sides in the League, they work well together. If the right side was as solid (Campbell?), we could aim directly at adding a young Center to the bunch, and just get stronger.

  608. buckeyeraider Says:

    RRS,

    Bringing in four new starters on the O-line would be disasterous. Obviously the O-line is going to get a makeover, but hopefully not a complete overhaul.

    Bruce Campbell is obviously going to get his shot to replace the aging Coop. But, he’s far from a sure thing.

    I’m all for drafting Wiz 2.0 or even better yet Moffit from Wisc in 2nd or 3rd, who can both play either C or G in case Gallery OR Satele leave via FA.

    Even if Robert stays, you can’t count on him because of his injury history/missed games.

    Not sure why everyone is so eager to jettison Satele, though. The guys blocking was critical to the screens and reverses that were so important to Hue’s offense last year. There were some huge gains and big plays.

    I defenitely want Samson back next year. Maybe a Marcus Cannon or someone like that can be drafted to compete with LWalker, who was probably a stopgap at best.

    Upgrade, not a complete overhaul, IMO.

  609. buckeyeraider Says:

    That’s still two and possibly three new starters. I’d like to bring Gallery back. Draft either Wiz 2.0 or Moffit who can back up either C or G for a year or two.

    Draft Marcus Cannon or Gilbert to compete w/ Walker at RT.

    To just bring back Jared Veldheer, who did show promise..but also struggled with penalties and pass pro at times…and then surround him with four completely new starters would be asking for trouble, IMO.

  610. Davy Jones Says:

    593.RaiderRockstar Says:
    March 3rd, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Davy Jones,

    I would say that Vick is a “good” QB or an exceptional athlete. He does not belong in the following upper echelon category of QB’s

    Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, Matt Schaub, Big Ben, etc

    =====================================================

    For 2010 Michael Vick had a better QB rating than Big Ben, Matt Schaub, Drew Brees, and (gasp!) Peyton Manning. His rating was about equal to that of Aaron Rogers.

    Whether you like the guy or not, Michael Vick is an elite QB in this league.

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