Gallery says farewell
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, March 3rd, 2011 at 10:48 am in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders guard Robert Gallery said he’s had conversations with Al Davis and that they have mutually decided it was time for him to continue his career elsewhere, according to an ESPN report.
“With the end of the league year coming today, and the few conversations I’ve had with the Raiders and Mr. Davis, we’ve come to a mutual agreement that it’s time for me to move on with my career,” Gallery said. “ I appreciate the start that they and Mr. Davis gave me and I truly have enjoyed my time wearing the silver and black. I wish them well, I thank the fans and I take away great memories of my time in Oakland.”
Gallery’s contract voided following the season, one in which he returned from back surgery. He struggled while being shuffled between right and left tackle in previous regimes before playing well at left guard at the behest of line coach Tom Cable.
Gallery was a vocal supporter of Cable in his final days as Oakland’s coach. Cable is now the assistant head coach and line coach of the Seattle Seahawks.
Although Cooper Carlisle is under contract, his position would appear to be tenuous with the team transitioning away from zone blocking and with Al Davis wanting to get at Bruce Campbell, a fourth-round draft pick a year ago who was a right guard as a rookie but failed to see the field.
A COMP FOR MILLER?
No word on whether the Raiders have applied any restricted free agency tenders, but there was one interesting signing of a player roughly comparable to Raiders tight end Zach Miller.
Houston Texans tight end Owen Daniels signed a four-year contract worth $22 million that reportedly will pay him $14 million over the first two seasons.
A five-year veteran, Daniels’ has a similar skill set to that of Miller. Very good receiver, good hands, knows how to get open. Adequate blocker. Injuries have limited Daniels to 19 games over the past two seasons. He caught 38 passes in 11 games this season, finishing strong after a hamstring injury, and 40 passes last season in eight games.
Daniels has 245 catches for 2,972 yards, a 12.1 average and 17 touchdowns. Miller has 226 receptions, 2,712 yards, a 12.0 average and 12 touchdowns in one less season.
The difference is that Miller, as a four-year free agent, has more of a chance to be tied to his team in a new collective bargaining agreement than Daniels, who has played five.
In a world with a collective bargaining agreement, free agency would have started Friday. There are rumblings on Twitter posts from media-types at the scene suggesting an extension of talks is possible past today’s deadline of 11:59, eastern time.
The only deal announced by the Raiders since re-signing Stanford Routt and Rock Cartwright and the franchise tag on Kamerion Wimbley is signing safety Jerome Boyd. Boyd played in one game with the Raiders in 2009 and has spent time on the practice squad.
A reported deal with defensive tackle John Henderson (I’ve seen at two years, $4 million and two years, $8 million) has not been announced by the club.
COMBINE ADJUSTMENTS
The fastest 40-yard dash time ended up belonging to DeMarcus Van Dyke of Miami, and not Buster Skrine of UT-Chattanooga.
Van Dyke clocked a 4.28 according to NFL.com. Skrine, originally reported as having run a 4.29, wasn’t even listed in their top 10.
Here’s the thing about “official” combine times. Nothing is official.
The National Football Post, for instance, reported nine times since 1999 players had run a sub-4.3 _ including four Raiders. They had Stanford Routt at a 4.29 in 2005, with Fabian Washington at 4.25 the same year.
The NFL Network’s said Van Dyke’s time was the fastest since Routt’s 4.27 in 2005 and didn’t mention Washington.
Until the combine starts to put up electronic times and posting them like a track meet, no one can be completely sure what kind of times athletes are putting up.
And here’s the most important thing _ teams keep their own times and use those above anything else.
Talked with someone involved with Raiders scouting and told him about the NFP Post regarding the four Raiders who posted sub-4.3 times at the combine and was told actually there were only two by their count _ Washington in 2005 and Jacoby Ford last year.
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March 3rd, 2011 at 10:49 am
FK u Gallery.
Go join Cable.
March 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
Damn it! Where else can we get a fragile guard at a left tackle price?
March 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
Works for me. No way the Raiders should be paying $5 million a year or more for a guy who ends up being injured for half the season.
March 3rd, 2011 at 10:57 am
# KingDan Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 am
Damn it! Where else can we get a fragile guard at a left tackle price?
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lol
Thats a good one.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:00 am
Although Cooper Carlisle is under contract, his position would appear to be tenuous with the team transitioning away from zone blocking
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Yup. right on, Jer!
I just finished saying this on your last blog
4 new O-Line starters in 2011
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
It’s time to bring Russell back and plug him in at left guard.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
It’s still a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Man…I hate reading that…especially since I just wrote this:
Some people talk about Gallery like he’s some kind of wimp, or as if he isn’t physical enough. Any talk of the sort is nonsense. Gallery has become one of the most versatile Guards in the NFL…and he’s plenty physical enough for whatever blocking scheme thrown his way, especially so with mixing-up schemes.
It’s time to throw away memories of his days at Tackle, and realize just how hard it is to find a quality Guard in this here League. We’ve got one of the better ones at the position…and if he’s relatively affordable, there’s simply no reason to let Gallery go.
Also…with the emergence of Veldheeer, we’ve got one of the better left sides in the League, they work well together. If the right side was as solid (Campbell?), we could aim directly at adding a young Center to the bunch, and just get stronger.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
Would like to see something different, but it looks like our O-line might end up looking like this. W/ ????? surrounding Campbell.
Veldheer-Loper-Wiz-Campbell-Henderson
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:04 am
I hope the Raiders look at Nick Kaczur if the Patriots cut him. He was a pretty reliable starter for them until sitting out most of last season with an injury.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:10 am
Veldheer – Moffitt – Wisniewski – Campbell – Kaczur/Henderson
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:10 am
NFL owners have formally offered to extend CBA talks beyond Thursday’s 11:59 p.m. deadline.
The union is waiting for assurance that the owners are serious about coming to an agreement before putting away their decertification card. Per SI’s Jim Trotter, the extension must be agreed upon by 4:00 p.m. ET or the NFLPA will file to decertify. The talks, aimed at “stopping the clock” to continue negotiations, are described as “legit but fragile.”
Source: Albert Breer on Twitter
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:14 am
Another 1st round draft pick down the drain
2010: Rolando McClain (jury’s out)
2009: DHB (jury’s out, looks to be a bust)
2008: DMC (jury’s out)
2007: Please
2006: Huff. Bust. Not worth a number one
2005: No longer with team
2004: No loner with team
2003: Nnamdi. Solid.
2002: Buchannon. Gone
2001: Gibson. Bust
In case anyone wants to know why we just continue to lose despite having somewhat talented teams, this might have something to do with it. Drafting and team building is every team’s foundation.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:15 am
I think Gallery had had it with the constant coaching changes.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:16 am
think DMAC has it right whith the execption of Henderson. Maybe Barnes or someone new. Campbell ought to be able to pull and lead like a sob. Can’t wait to see.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:16 am
” there’s simply no reason to let Gallery go.”
sure there is, he bad mouthed our sacred leader when he let our wife beater coach go.
Is that not reason enough?
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:17 am
It appears as if the Raiders have a choice to make; draft a player (Wisniewski) that can play guard and center, or one that can play tackle and guard (Marcus Cannon, TCU).
Questions that need to be answered; can Henderson play the right side? Do Langston Walker and Cooper Carlisle get another year? Is Satele the answer at center? Is there someone on the roster that can replace Gallery?
My guess? We have Barnes, Walker and Henderson to compete for the RT spot. Nobody in that group is going to play guard, and there’s not a backup center on the roster. I’d rather have Marcus Cannon because he’s a lot bigger and stronger than Wisniewski, but somebody out of the aforementioned group is going to play right tackle for us next year and Wiz can probably step in at guard or center right away. If he’s there I think we’re taking him.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Man, Gallery was good for Veldheer.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Gallery……see ya Bob the Bust!
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:18 am
Loper, maybe. But, adding 4 brand new players along any Line is one tall order…especially if they’re mostly “kids.” If NFL history tells us anything, it’s that O-lines’ consistent/coordinated play is almost as important as the players’ skill levels.
If off-season practices are prohibited or limited, it will be even tougher to get an O-line loaded with new faces to gel.
Al’s made a lot of good moves lately, and hopefully this is another one. I just hope the new O-line (hello Wiz?!) doesn’t go through too much turmoil before settling into their groove.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 am
Hopefully a little more of a shift towards power blocking helps Campbell make a big jump from year 1 to year 2. He’ll almost certainly be a starter, but it’s worrisome that the guy didn’t even threaten to crack the starting lineup last season.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 am
Dakota, at what point do we start to consider the person who actually drafts these busts? Gallery didn’t draft himself.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:20 am
AS long as he can be replaced i’m ok with it. You Know Al values the left side most.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:21 am
Gallery was the leader of the O-Line.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:22 am
Who didn’t see this coming, lol.
Bobby will be a seachicken next year. Pretty sure Bobby was expecting Stan Routt type $ from Al, LOLOLOLOLOL, and Al countered with Langston Walker $.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:23 am
Pretty safe bet that the Oline will be the 2nd rd pick.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:24 am
Maybe they plan on trading up and going o line in 1 and 2?
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:25 am
No word on whether the Raiders have applied any restricted free agency tenders
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come on, Al!
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:26 am
I have a feeling after the next Raiders’ season, Cable and Gallery are going to be having a good laugh.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:28 am
If Al makes a trade, he will definitely partner up w/ Belicheat and the Pats. They have 2 1st rounders.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:32 am
Belichick has been taking advantage of Al Davis for so long now. I wonder why other people with the Raiders let it keep happening. It’s so embarrassing.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
yo
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:34 am
What did Belechick give us for Doug Gariel again?
How about Derick Burgess?
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
I shed no tears for a bust left tackle who ended up being a flag happy injury riddled obscure guard. That and the fact that in order to even be in position to draft him, we as fans had to endure a crappy season… So long buster…
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
best case scenario for the Raiders would be to have Loper (LG), Rookie lil Wiz (C), Campbell (RG) and Barnes (RT) occupy the 4 available O-Line seats.
That would allow us to draft 1 O-Lineman in the first 4 rounds instead of 3!
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Yeah…the Pats sure pulled a fast one on Al with that Seymour deal, huh?
MR — You reach too far all the time…
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Jhill,
yes. We got the better end of the Burgess & Gabriel trades. the Pats didn’t get much from Gerard Warren, LaMont Jordan, Terdell Sands or Andrew Walter either.
the Seymour trade is still yet to be determined.
1) Depends on who the Pats get at #17 and what kind of career he has
2) Depends on what we get out of Seymour the next 2 years – he hasn’t helped our Run Defense much the past 2 years, but our pass rush seems to be working. Kelly almost made the Pro Bowl. Can’t see him doing that playing next to guys like Warren, Sands or Joseph!
when people say “Belichick has Al’s number” they are basically referring to the Randy Moss trade and look what he did for the Vikings & Titans last year … nothing
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Well 2nd round will be oline now. Maybe we get help in free agency after the cba because we need it. It all starts with the lines. we can get after the qb and we could run block last year. Now with the moves we have made, we can rush the qb, thats it. We still cant stop the run, pass block and now run block. We need alot of help on the line.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
I think that Barnes signed a one year deallast offseason. I think Henderson will get a look at RT. It’s Kiffin and Cable’s fault that he hasn’t made the pro bowl yet, lol.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:44 am
Drew Rosenhaus gives props to Al Davis
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/03/02/SPNF1I2EJO.DTL
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
Bring in a versatile, (veteran) O-lineman and add another one with one of our first 2 picks…but, don’t try to start 4 players at new positions on the line at the same time. Not if you want to win more than you did last season.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:46 am
when people say “Belichick has Al’s number” they are basically referring to the Randy Moss trade
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It’s not like Al turned down a #1 pick for Moss. NO ONE wanted him. The Pats made the best offer.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 am
36.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Jhill,
yes. We got the better end of the Burgess & Gabriel trades. the Pats didn’t get much from Gerard Warren, LaMont Jordan, Terdell Sands or Andrew Walter either.
the Seymour trade is still yet to be determined.
1) Depends on who the Pats get at #17 and what kind of career he has
2) Depends on what we get out of Seymour the next 2 years – he hasn’t helped our Run Defense much the past 2 years, but our pass rush seems to be working. Kelly almost made the Pro Bowl. Can’t see him doing that playing next to guys like Warren, Sands or Joseph!
when people say “Belichick has Al’s number” they are basically referring to the Randy Moss trade and look what he did for the Vikings & Titans last year … nothing
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You make the point that it depends who the Pats select and what kind of career they have. I disagree because who’s to say the Raiders would have picked the same guy. In fact it is pretty unlikely that the Raiders would pick the same guy, So it’s a moot point IMO
The Raiders track record recently with #1 picks has been shaky at best, I’ll take a proven winner anyday.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
Trade Carlisle for Max Unger?
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:48 am
21.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:19 am
Dakota, at what point do we start to consider the person who actually drafts these busts? Gallery didn’t draft himself.
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When it comes to DHB, you have a point. But Gallery was a consensus top five pick. Pick any “real” gm you want, they’d have fell for Gallery too. Find another way to grind you axe.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
LT – Veldheer
LG – Loper
C – Best C in rd 2
RG – Campbell
RT – Henderson
That’s how I see it shaking out.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Oakland-Raiders-quarterback-JaMarcus-Russell-faces-foreclosure-on-Oakland-mansion-home-030311
Jacheeseburger is losing the oakland mansion!
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
Over the last two season we were:
9-9 with Robert Gallery
and
4-10 without him
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
All our problems are solved, the Raiders signed Nick Miller! lol
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
No surprise here that Gallery is gone. He’ll be up in Seattle and prob finally make the probowl.
however, I fully expect this from the JaChoke Camp for the upcoming season. Jason is struggling because he has a brandnew Oline…..another excuse.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 am
30.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:32 am
Belichick has been taking advantage of Al Davis for so long now. I wonder why other people with the Raiders let it keep happening. It’s so embarrassing.
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That’s not how the NE fans tell it, but okay . . .
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:54 am
I think Henderson will get a look at RT. It’s Kiffin and Cable’s fault that he hasn’t made the pro bowl yet
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LOL @ Jhill. nice one!
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:54 am
46.Raiderbuck Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:50 am
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Oakland-Raiders-quarterback-JaMarcus-Russell-faces-foreclosure-on-Oakland-mansion-home-030311
Jacheeseburger is losing the oakland mansion!
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About the only good advice he has gotten from his circle. The house is way underwater and doesnt make any sense to dump more money into it.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:54 am
LOL!
Love how you bring the year before last in to beef up your “without him” stats.
I just know that we didn’t miss a beat with him being out this past year.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:56 am
Trade Carlisle for Max Unger?
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tender “Super” Mario and trade him along with Cooper!
Max Unger is a guy I wanted the Raiders to draft
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:56 am
47.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:51 am
Over the last two season we were:
9-9 with Robert Gallery
and
4-10 without him
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interesting thought
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:56 am
OG in 2nd, 3rd C, 4th big D-tackle, 5th G or Tackle, 6th and 7th co
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:57 am
The Raiders track record recently with #1 picks has been shaky at best, I’ll take a proven winner anyday.
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valid point, HB.
co-sign!
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:57 am
J Hill Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:54 am
LOL!
Love how you bring the year before last in to beef up your “without him” stats.
I just know that we didn’t miss a beat with him being out this past year.
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Then, I take it, you would include Gallery in Al Davis’ long line of 1st round draft busts?
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:59 am
OG in 2nd, 3rd C, 4th big D-tackle, 5th G or Tackle, 6th and 7th cb.
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:59 am
Gallery = Bigger bust than DHB!
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:00 pm
J Hill Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 am
LT – Veldheer
LG – Loper
C – Best C in rd 2
RG – Campbell
RT – Henderson
That’s how I see it shaking out.
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I basically agree but another option might be if AD picks up Gaither for OLT and then moves Veldheer to center. I like that lineup even better.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Look’s like they may extend today’s deadline for a new CBA. Hope this is good news, Or the owners are just getting nervous the union may decertify and sue them. Work it out you rich mofo’s!
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:01 pm
57.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:57 am
The Raiders track record recently with #1 picks has been shaky at best, I’ll take a proven winner anyday.
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valid point, HB.
co-sign!
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So you’ve come to you senses on the Seymour resigning. Good job. Much better than franchising him, giving him a 20% pay raise from last year’s salary, then watching him walk the year after that, eh?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:02 pm
It’s not like Al turned down a #1 pick for Moss. NO ONE wanted him. The Pats made the best offer.
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we didn’t HAVE to trade him.
He never even demanded a trade or requested a release (that the media got a hold of). Kiffin wanted him gone and Al Davis signed off on it. Shell’s beef was with Jerry Porter in 2006 – not Moss, remember? Should have kept him and traded Porter for a 4th rounder!
Davis being the player’s owner that he is, dumped Shell and kept Porter. Lot of good that did, eh?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
# HayesDaze37 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:35 am
Yeah…the Pats sure pulled a fast one on Al with that Seymour deal, huh?
MR — You reach too far all the time…
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Seymour is not worth a number one pick. We’re a rebuilding team.
Then again, I guess if you draft like Al Davis, maybe Seymour was worth it.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:03 pm
http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2011/3/3/2027652/2011-draft-bust-blaine-gabbert
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The mystery man of the draft. Not a big stat guy, but I really haven’t figured out why he’s the top-rated QB. Is it measurables? You would think he’d have more production in that Playstation spread he played in. Chase Daniel had it. Does he have otherworldly arm strength or something? Weird as hell.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:04 pm
“Stak, if we were face to face right now I’d knock your teeth out. Just keep saying things over the internet you’d never say to my face. You’re a punk.”
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Anybody going to tape the Chevy’s date tommorrow? Next YOUTUBE sensation, move over Dennys, Chevy’s got your number! Cannot imagine RMR is going to wimp out.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
The Raiders had too long a list of FAs to think that everyone was going to come back.
I thought Gallery did well last year, but of the remaining high profile FAs- Miller, Bush, Nnamdi, Huff, and Gallery- I’d have voted him off the island first.
Let’s be glad there hasn’t yet been such an announcement by Nnamdi. That and Paul Gutierrez’ comment give me hope he might be back.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:05 pm
So you’ve come to you senses on the Seymour resigning. Good job. Much better than franchising him, giving him a 20% pay raise from last year’s salary, then watching him walk the year after that, eh?
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I like Richard Seymour, always have. But making him the highest paid defensive player in the league makes little sense to anybody other than Al Davis!
…especially considering that the Run Defense has ranked 31st & 29th with him starting on the D-Line
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Campbell Cannon Vehldeer Loper Barnes
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Kiffin wanted him gone and Al Davis signed off on it.
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Not the way I recall it. There was mention of a conversation Moss had with Kiffin and Moss said he didn’t want to play for him or the Raiders. That is what lead to Kiffin saying he wanted to trade Moss. Didn’t want a guy like him as a malcontent in his locker room.
I agree that we didn’t have to trade him, but in the context of Belechick getting over on us, I’d disagree with that.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
“The wide receiver told The San Francisco Chronicle that he has asked the team to trade him.”Yes. Absolutely. I’ve told them that,” Porter told the newspaper. The 2000 second round pick has caught 239 passes in his six NFL seasons for 3,215 yards and has scored 24 touchdowns. Porter told the newspaper that his agent told him that the Raiders have asked for two No. 1 picks in return for him in any deal. “Why … would you ask for a No. 1 for me, or ask for two No. 1s for me, when I wasn’t even a No. 1?,” he told the newspaper.”
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
BBL gents!
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
28.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:26 am
I have a feeling after the next Raiders’ season, Cable and Gallery are going to be having a good laugh.
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You’d enjoy that, wouldn’t you?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:21 am
Gallery was the leader of the O-Line.
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Gallery was a leader of spotty mediocre line. He was injured too much to lead. If you are a Troy Polamalu who is an all-pro instant playmaker when healthy that is one thing, but when you are injury prone, never been a winner, proven busted pick, who has been paid top $ for the past 7 years… this move has been long overdue. The Raiders should have cut losses after 2006 disaster… maybe picked up a late round pick
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:07 pm
our run defense is last because of inadequate line backing play against the run
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Food for thought:
One reason we were so GOOD in the running game last year was because…it’s “easier” to block for a consistent running game than it is for the passing game.
One reason we suffered so in the passing game was because we couldn’t pass-protect. That wasn’t because of Gallery. People whine about having no pass-protection… and then celebrate when our best O-lineman is given the door.
Whether Gallery stayed here or not, we needed to address the O-line…now, we better hope they get it together in a big-time hurry.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:09 pm
But making him the highest paid defensive player in the league makes little sense to anybody other than Al Davis!
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That highest paid player in the league stuff is propoganda. A phrase thrown out there to cloud the issue.
Bottom line is Seymour was good enough to not let walk for nothing. We either had to franchise him again, or sign a long term deal. Franchising him would have meant a 20% raise over the 14 million he made last year. That’s 17 Million for ONE YEAR. Instead, we paid 22 million for 2 years.
Great deal, ask JFB!
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
# Davy Jones Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
28.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:26 am
I have a feeling after the next Raiders’ season, Cable and Gallery are going to be having a good laugh.
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You’d enjoy that, wouldn’t you?
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We’re not talking about me. We’re talking about Al Davis.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Dicky
Gallery was a consensus can’t miss coming out of college. Unfortunately he came to dysfunction junction, and did the best he could.
Another 1st round draft pick the Raiders couldn’t develop.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
signing Mr. Seymour was an excellent move, our D-Line is a major strength in the NFL.
Raiders had the most sacks per pass plays in fact we were the only team to sack our opponents over 9%.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
That highest paid player in the league stuff is propoganda. A phrase thrown out there to cloud the issue.
Bottom line is Seymour was good enough to not let walk for nothing. We either had to franchise him again, or sign a long term deal. Franchising him would have meant a 20% raise over the 14 million he made last year. That’s 17 Million for ONE YEAR. Instead, we paid 22 million for 2 years.
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15 mill a year for a proven pro bowler/ superbowl champ like Seymour is worth it. He impacted the game more than Nnamdi did that is for sure.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Why … would you ask for a No. 1 for me, or ask for two No. 1s for me, when I wasn’t even a No. 1?,” he told the newspaper.”
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that’s funny
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:13 pm
# HairyBush Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:47 am
36.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:42 am
Jhill,
yes. We got the better end of the Burgess & Gabriel trades. the Pats didn’t get much from Gerard Warren, LaMont Jordan, Terdell Sands or Andrew Walter either.
the Seymour trade is still yet to be determined.
1) Depends on who the Pats get at #17 and what kind of career he has
2) Depends on what we get out of Seymour the next 2 years – he hasn’t helped our Run Defense much the past 2 years, but our pass rush seems to be working. Kelly almost made the Pro Bowl. Can’t see him doing that playing next to guys like Warren, Sands or Joseph!
when people say “Belichick has Al’s number” they are basically referring to the Randy Moss trade and look what he did for the Vikings & Titans last year … nothing
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You make the point that it depends who the Pats select and what kind of career they have. I disagree because who’s to say the Raiders would have picked the same guy. In fact it is pretty unlikely that the Raiders would pick the same guy, So it’s a moot point IMO
The Raiders track record recently with #1 picks has been shaky at best, I’ll take a proven winner anyday.
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Exactly I hate when people say “wait to see who NE gets” but thats completely irrelevant– McClain was solid & McFadden was a beast this year but our success in the first round has been average at best the last 5-7 years.
Our defense isn’t even close to what it is today if #92 is around (i know were nothing special.. yet)– he turned that group into some tough dudes.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Raiders should have taken the offers for Mr. Gallery, from what I recall we were getting Herchel Walker/Ricky Williams type offers for him.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
** if #92 isn’t around **
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:15 pm
71.J Hill Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Not the way I recall it. There was mention of a conversation Moss had with Kiffin and Moss said he didn’t want to play for him or the Raiders. That is what lead to Kiffin saying he wanted to trade Moss. Didn’t want a guy like him as a malcontent in his locker room.
I agree that we didn’t have to trade him, but in the context of Belechick getting over on us, I’d disagree with that.
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Moss would only agree to restructure his huge contract for a team he approved of, so he was able to control his own destiny with that trade. So the list of possible trade partners was narrow, the other teams knew it and made lo ball offers.
So the Pats held all the cards in that trade. Every time Davis and Belicheck met on an even playing field since then, Davis wins.
5th for Doug Gabriel = win
3rd for Derrick Burgess = win
Richar Seymour for 17th overall = after seeing Jerry McDonald’s list of the 17th picks, I’m gonna go ahead and say win.
Certainly Pats fans crying after the loss to the Jets think the Raiders won in the Seymour trade- who are you going to believe, them or the Davis haters?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:16 pm
DutchRaider, Stak’s a good guy. I was just a little angry over some things he said yesterday. I was brought up not to throw the first punch, and the “sticks and stones” approach to smack talking. I overreacted. If you think I’m a coward for that, suit yourself. I’m here to talk football.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
79.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:12 pm
# Davy Jones Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 pm
28.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:26 am
I have a feeling after the next Raiders’ season, Cable and Gallery are going to be having a good laugh.
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You’d enjoy that, wouldn’t you?
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We’re not talking about me. We’re talking about Al Davis.
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Fine. Who should Al Davis have let go instead?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
85.RaiderRetribution Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Raiders should have taken the offers for Mr. Gallery, from what I recall we were getting Herchel Walker/Ricky Williams type offers for him.
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Where did u hear this?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
# Davy Jones Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Fine. Who should Al Davis have let go instead?
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Again, off topic. I’m discussing Al’s history of drafting.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
DutchRaider, Stak’s a good guy. I was just a little angry over some things he said yesterday. I was brought up not to throw the first punch, and the “sticks and stones” approach to smack talking. I overreacted. If you think I’m a coward for that, suit yourself. I’m here to talk football.
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Oh, I see, but you called him a “coward” and said you were going to knock his teeth out? Nice to see you turn the other cheek, you are quite a nice guy and would never say any of those disrespectful things he uttered. Blog on…
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Who won in the Seymour trade is not even a question in my mind. Not having to endure Trevor Scott at DE that year made the trade worth it for me. I was one of the few endorsing moving him to DT from early on. I totally fine with having Seymour on our side.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:23 pm
91.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:18 pm
# Davy Jones Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:17 pm
Fine. Who should Al Davis have let go instead?
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Again, off topic. I’m discussing Al’s history of drafting.
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I notice that you didn’t deny that you would have enjoyed laughing along with Cable and Gallery . . .
Will you be conveniently ignoring the drafting of Nnamdi, Miller, Bush, McFadden, and other fine players in your discussion?
Gallery would have lasted a few picks beyond number 2 at most. Can’t blame Davis for this one, find another way to grind your axe.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Gallery’s Career:
RT
LT
LG
West Coast
ZBS
Power
Cable
Kiffin
Shell
Slater
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:26 pm
# DutchRaider77 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:22 pm
Oh, I see, but you called him a “coward” and said you were going to knock his teeth out? Nice to see you turn the other cheek, you are quite a nice guy and would never say any of those disrespectful things he uttered. Blog on…
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I was wrong for calling him a coward, and threatening him. I’m not going to apologize to him because some of the things he said are just crude. So I’m going to ignore him. And thank you for calling me a nice guy. I happen to think that’s a compliment. I’m old school. I feel sorry for guys who walk around today trying *not* to be nice, just to prove to themselves that they’re tough, in some twisted way. Pretty sad. I hope you’re not one of them. There’s a better way to live. You blog on as well.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:27 pm
Hilarious…MR swingin’ and missin’ at every turn today. And that’s without his old/new friend “Stak” here to tangle with.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Davy, here’s how it will work, I guess. You continue talking about me, I’ll continue talking about Al. We’re at an impasse, and it looks like we’ll be staying here. The world goes on.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:31 pm
I don’t “tangle” with anyone, Hayez. That’s beneath me. I’m here to talk football, and that’s all I’ve done in here today, and all I’ll continue to do. This is very personal to you guys, I can see that. It’s not to me. I really have no dog in the race. I just enjoy talking about Al Davis and his ownership, and enjoy debating with his staunch supporters. It’s intellectually stimulating. I don’t know why.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
MR says: …”some of the things he said are just crude.”
Ummmm…would those be the things he cut n’ pasted that YOU said??
Even if “Stak” wrote nothing, what was said by YOU was enough, MR.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Hayez, that’s enough. From here on out we’re discussing Al Davis, or nothing. Got it?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
@RMR
That’s cool…but did you post those quotes about wanting to blank your counsin or did people make those up? Cause, we all know if someone else posted about wanting to blank their cousin, you would have rubbed their nose in it. Turn about is fair play.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:34 pm
OK…football/draft then…
Why not answer Davy Jones’ question about drafted players…
How about Al’s drafts the past few years? Any good players to go along with those “busts” we keep hearing about?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Dutch Raider, cut it out, now. Football from here on out.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Hayez, I’m discussing Al’s draft record, as evidence that he needs to stop down. I’m not arguing FOR Al Davis, as you evidently are, I’m arguing against him. And I think there is far more evidence today that Al Davis is a bad GM than there is that he’s a good one. The won/loss record since 2003 speaks for itself, doesn’t it?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
No matter what, we’re looking at at least three new starters along the offensive line.
RT and RG are the positions that need to be upgraded the most, considering how poor of a job that side of the line did, both run blocking and pass protecting.
Now there needs to be a new LG (not sure how high the coaching staff is on Loper, but he did play pretty well last season), and Satele is the only C the Raiders had on the roster and he’s a free agent now.
How the draft shakes out will determine which of those guys come back.
I’d like to see what Campbell has at both RT and RG, but I think it would be a disaster if Campbell and Henderson are simply handed the starting jobs on the right side of the line. The Raiders need to get some competition going on that side.
Nick Kaczur would be a solid veteran presence and can play either position, and it looks like he’s going to be cut by the Pats. Hopefully the Raiders consider picking him up.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:37 pm
I am one of those people who still have the wait and see on who won the Seymour/NE trade.
Certainly, we started off nicely with two pretty solid years from Seymour.
But if the Pats at #17 take some guy that turns into the second coming of Reggie White, all the while Seymour slowly grinds down his productivity with age, than we got screwed.
To early to tell, IMO, but so far so good.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Dutchman — Don’t let the facts get in the way with MR…he makes his own rules in here…and he is the king of the hypocrites in here, not coincidentally.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:39 pm
Trolls are out in force today. Good news for the billy goats gruff.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:40 pm
RMR, your argument is moot. The only person running the draft is going to be Al unless he gets very ill or passes away. That’s just the reality of the situation. Far from ideal, but there’s nothing any of us can do about it. We can only hope that whatever players he picks somehow pan out. Hopefully at the very least Hue Jackson has Al’s ear, and has some idea of what needs to be done to get this team competitive again.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:41 pm
HayezDaze, you need to discern irrelevant facts with relevant facts. Do you honestly believe one decent player Al snags in the later rounds makes up for his record since 2003?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:42 pm
One decent player? Flail away, MR…everybody’s laughing at you.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
@YoungAmerican
Didn’t Davis have a consultant last year for help?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
Exactly I hate when people say “wait to see who NE gets” but thats completely irrelevant– McClain was solid & McFadden was a beast this year but our success in the first round has been average at best the last 5-7 years.
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NE is going to turn our #1 into at least 2 other picks. They wont draft anyone that high unless a CBA is done and a rookie scale is in place by then.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Well, I don’t think Al DAvis supporters have much high ground to really laugh at anyone, HayezDaze. If you were ask any sports fan across the world who the dumbest fans in all of sports are, I think you know who they’ll point to.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Nick Kaczur would be a solid veteran presence and can play either position, and it looks like he’s going to be cut by the Pats. Hopefully the Raiders consider picking him up.
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Damien Woody was cut by the Jets too and could bring some vet leadership to our line, and can really play anywhere on the line. Im sure with him rehabbing an achilles he isnt going to get any high dollar offers so for vet minimum with some PT incentives why not?
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 pm
99.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:29 pm
Davy, here’s how it will work, I guess. You continue talking about me, I’ll continue talking about Al. We’re at an impasse, and it looks like we’ll be staying here. The world goes on.
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Talking about you? When do I ever talk about you? I talk about the things you say about Al Davis. And believe me, your stuff needs a rebuttal.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
# DutchRaider77 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
@YoungAmerican
Didn’t Davis have a consultant last year for help?
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Not sure. From what I’ve heard, Al has a pretty tight inner circle of scouts and advisers, but I don’t think anyone knows for sure who they actually are. Al referenced a guy he’d hired a season or two ago at the press conference, but there’s really only been speculation as to who it might be, or if he even works for the organization anymore.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:53 pm
Playing as well as Seymour/being as good in the long run??
It’s hard to imagine another rookie coming in like the man named Suh did in Detroit…and that’s what it would take for New England to have gotten a better deal in the Seymour trade. Even then, he needs to be a long-term player for NE.
Richard Seymour takes this Defense to the next level, and he raises everybody up with him. This year, this Defense makes its name.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:54 pm
The problem here is not so much losing Gallery — an above-average guard.
It’s having to rebuild the entire offensive line in one off-season. Few teams have been able to do it in recent memory.
Carlisle is probably gone. Satele may be. Walker could be. We could be looking at one starter returning in Veldeer.
If we have, for the sake of argument, Campbell at RG, a rookie at LG, a free-agent at center and Mario Henderson at RT, will we be able to win against tough defensive fronts? I don’t see it.
Big Al is giving a ton of money to a (questionable) bunch of defensive players. They better be good, because the offense may need some time before it can be nearly as good as last year.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
RFNY — Right on the money.
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:56 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:50 pm
Not sure. From what I’ve heard, Al has a pretty tight inner circle of scouts and advisers,
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Ha ha ha ha!!!
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Looks like a solid set of backups or CFL starters.
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# YoungAmerican Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:10 am
Veldheer – Moffitt – Wisniewski – Campbell – Kaczur/Henderson
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Even staunch Libtards are running away from pres purp lips! It doesn’t get any worse then that. Damon is just now catching up to purp lips now while the rest of america wokeup 18 months ago!
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In an interview set to air tonight, actor Matt Damon tells CNN’s Piers Morgan he’s unhappy with the president. Asked point blank if he thinks the president has been doing a good job running the country, Damon simply replied, “No.”
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
I bet that L. Walker comes back (not a good thing), because he was a Davis guy. Cable never seemed sold on Walker…
Think Henderson gets moved to the right side? Is Henderson a Davis guy?
Not like it is actually proof, but Adam Schefter’ thinks that B. Campbell is going to be moved to LG to take Gallery’s place. (ESPN, Gallery article cited above)
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Ha ha ha ha!!!
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Al’s gotta yell at someone when his picks don’t pan out.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:00 pm
As usual with Al, we have very little starter level players at O-line on the roster, only 1 QB I believe and no DC named yet.
However, we hurried up and re-signed our #7 WR in Nick Miller, and have a good 7-8 DB’s signed on as well.
If we were playing flag football, we would be the gold standard.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
I need lunch.
I need football in ‘11.
Football will happen.
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Raiderfan that is why I think it is important that we resign Mr. Satele, Mr. Barnes, and Mr. Loper.
In fact should we lose the Zach we must resign Mr. Barnes; as we would be way too thin at TE as well as OL.
Mr. Henderson, Mr. Carslie, and Mr. Walker can walk.
We also have Mr. Parsons on the PS, and you know Al likes having USC players on the 53 man roster.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
MB, Damon is upset with your president of the United States for not being liberal enough, not because he’s not conservative enough.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Another point to consider: Losing Gallery and Nnamdi at the same time, if it comes to pass, would be a big blow.
They’re two of the only veteran Raiders — respected, intelligent, hard-working guys.
Losing veteran leaders always hurts NFL teams. Seymour can’t be the only guy young players listen to. And I don’t see much leadership coming from the QB.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Hey Gallery, get a haircut.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:04 pm
MR, as usual you are just an incompetent moron.
Nobody said anything about liberal or conservative. He is just not doing a good job. Can you even take a sh!t and chew bubblegum at the same time?
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
Raiders have their core:
A solid DL; a LT or C; MLB & SLB; 1 CB & SS; RB & 1 [worthy] WR; a ST ace; and most importantly a starting QB.
3 most important positions: QB, LT, DE = Raiders have under contract.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:05 pm
I love a good RMR bashing as much as anyone, but moving forward, who/what should we trade Carlisle for?
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:06 pm
lol @ trading Carlisle.
hahahahaha
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Raider fans think you can just demand another team accept whatever trade that will work in your favor and screw the other guy.
FK’n meatballs!
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
I think our second or at the latest our third round pick [both should the Raiders use them to move into the 1st] soley depends on the Raiders resigning Nnamdi.
We resign him we go OL, we do not resign him we are drafting a CB with one of our first two picks [hopefully the U's CB].
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
who/what should we trade Carlisle for?
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Cornell Green? (Kidding)
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Shiloh Keo, Baby!
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Director Spike Lee was among those who trashed 0bama’s slow response to last year’s devastating oil spill along the Gulf Coast, suggesting the president hadn’t shown enough emotion on the issue. “One time, go off!” Lee told CNN’s Anderson Cooper. “If there’s any one time to go off, this is it, because this is a disaster.”
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
I am starting to miss Barry Simms…
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
trading players will be tough this year, it may be too late in traing camp/preseason for coaches and GMs feeling comfortable making trades.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Nobody’s trading anything for Carlisle.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:10 pm
“with Al Davis wanting to get at Bruce Campbell, a fourth-round draft pick a year ago who was a right guard as a rookie but failed to see the field.”
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Campbell was never meant to start last year. Only played what? 18 games of football in his life up to being drafted?
A project who DID btw, see the field last year in at least 2 regular season games garbage time.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:11 pm
if we throw in another player or draft choice someone might take him.
Coaches are always looking for OL.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:12 pm
The jury is still out on dmac…..??? lol ..I want some of the same stuff you and Charlie sheen are smoking maddenraiders
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:12 pm
VittorioTafur
Key stat in their contract talks: #Raiders 6-6 with Gallery, 2-2 without him
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Until there is a CBA, you can’t trade players anyways.
Very little player-trading done after the draft, so if there is no CBA at drafttime, nobody is trading anybody.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:13 pm
The only jury out on DMAC might be in a paternity suit thats about all.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:14 pm
2009:
3-3 with Gallery
2-8 without him
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:17 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised if AL gives Lechler his walking papers next. The axe is falling on the heads of Cable supporters.
If you dont think AL wont drop kick a punter just because he is a stud go ask Marcus Allen what he thinks.
See ya Shane…
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:19 pm
“Asked point blank if he thinks the president has been doing a good job running the country, Damon simply replied, “No.””
Thats too bad for him and you other BO haters because if you look at the Vegas odds for who will win in 2012 no one is even remotely close to BO.
you haters will have 4 more years to bash him like it or not.
HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES MATT DAMON!!!!!
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:21 pm
OakGlen/SeymourBush/Debo, always willing to carry water for failures like JaMarcus Russell and Barback B0bama.
lmao
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Until McFadden can play a whole season he is s situational player, he has not shown the durability to last a whole season yet.
Good Running backs are durable and do not miss 3-4 games a year….see Curtis Martin or Marshall Faulk.
McFadden is fast but he is not an every down between the tackles runner if you ask me.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:23 pm
666DeboSeymourGlenn, why the love affair with failures?
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
I don’t think it really has to do with Cable supporters, it has to do with production. People think that Wimbley is being overpaid, but he produced: sack leader on a team that was 2nd in sacks in the NFL in 2010.
Gallery was a competent guard with an LT contract. his production doesn’t justify his contract.
All the people who are complaining about “scholarship” players should be happy with this. I liked Gallery, but his “getting-paid-like-an-LT” scholarship ran out.
Isn’t he a better ZBS guy than a power guy anyway? Can’t resign everybody. His money can go to Zach Miller and/or Michael Bush.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
“Here’s the thing about “official” combine times. Nothing is official.”
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yeah like Talyor Mays unofficial sub 4.3 suddenly is a 4.5 sumthing. Whatever.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
I know one thing, i rather have gallery over nam aus. when gallery was in the game and we ran over 100 yards we had a way better chance to win compared to namdi shuting down one reciever. The only reason we won 8 games this year is because of our #2 rushing offense. we have been up in the top ten in pass defense quité a few times the past 8 years and we sucked. Having a great quarterback, stopping the run and being able to run wins championships. we have a average quarterback, with a d-line that cant stop the run and now lost are best o-lineman. i really want to win but jackson will have to pull one out of the hat.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
Davis seemed to find the pointed criticisms from punter Shane Lechler more amusing than disturbing.
“My first reaction was three years ago, if you get out your newspaper, Shane said publicly he wasn’t coming back, he didn’t like it here,’’ Davis said. “A month later, he was coming back because I gave him the highest paid contract of a specialist in pro football.’’
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
154. Look at the projects Damon’s starred in. He’s pro Repub all the way.
F him and his propaganda.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
SistabrownNose
I have been silverandblack666 for 6 years on this blog and have been banned for calling the mod a troll but have never used any other moniker.
Your private investigator skills are lacking and you should stick to what you know best….rubbing old men with KY jelly at the bath house and making poor political choices then defending them with your low IQ and poorly written posts.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
162.Nnamdi21 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
154. Look at the projects Damon’s starred in. He’s pro Repub all the way.
F him and his propaganda.
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You sure? BFF Ben Affleck is a flaming liberal.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:03 pm
116 rmr, If you were to ask sports fans in your “your small world” who the dumbest fans were, I can absolutely,positively, guarantee that Raider fans wouldn’t even get a whisper. Trust me, in the big, bad world beyond, there are aloooooooooooooooot of badly run sports franchises who have won NOTHING in their miserable existance! RAIDERS FOREVER.
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
114.DutchRaider77 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 12:44 pm
@YoungAmerican
Didn’t Davis have a consultant last year for help?
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It was Parcells.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:04 pm
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