Raiders on Gallery: No mutual decision
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, March 3rd, 2011 at 1:22 pm in Oakland Raiders.
So much for allowing Robert Gallery a gracious exit.
Gallery’s reward for telling ESPN he was leaving the club because of a “mutual decision” reached with owner Al Davis is the club claiming the issue was really a contract matter.
That’s right.
The organization which rarely discusses anything to do with a contract has trotted out their version of negotiations which ended with the two sides nowhere close in terms of an agreement.
“He was asking for $8 million a year, and we were willing to pay him in the $2.5 million range,” Raiders executive John Herrera told beat writer Steve Corkran. “His asking price was way too high.”
So is this some sort of new era with regard to discussing contract figures? Perhaps they’ll be making that Zach Miller offer public soon.
Doubtful.
More likely, the fact that Gallery spoke at all was an issue, so the Raiders decided to go ahead trash a Tom Cable ally on the way out the door.
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March 3rd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
first
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:25 pm
lol
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
He was asking for $8 million a year, and we were willing to pay him in the $2.5 million range,”
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As opposed to Stanford Routt who was asking for the $6 million range but we were willing to pay him $10 per year
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:27 pm
Who cares why he left. He has been a dissapoitment from the jump. Kinda like purp lips has been…
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:29 pm
666DeboSeymourGlenn, why the love affair with failures?
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:30 pm
We should sign Yanda and Gaither, draft a C/G to start and we would be pretty set – with good backups as well..
Gallery was important for Veldheer, and a better fit than Carlisle and a better player than Walker, so he could havve been kept for stability, but 8 mill a year is telling Big Al to screw him self – he is by no means worth 8 mill a year!
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
After seeing the Routt, Wimbley and Henderson contracts, Gallery probably thought he could cash in, too.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
the childishness of this organization will never cease to amaze me. it’s insane how somebody so damn old can act so immature.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:32 pm
Davis seemed to find the pointed criticisms from punter Shane Lechler more amusing than disturbing.
“My first reaction was three years ago, if you get out your newspaper, Shane said publicly he wasn’t coming back, he didn’t like it here,’’ Davis said. “A month later, he was coming back because I gave him the highest paid contract of a specialist in pro football.’’
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:33 pm
Harder,
The Raiders are saying he asked for 8 mil. We dont know that to be true. I wanna hear the 8 mil figure from Gallery or his agent.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:34 pm
666DeboGlenn is trashing me on the previous thread.
Derelict!
LMFAO
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:36 pm
6. Gaither is a waste of space.
Bad back and lousy attitude.
Great on paper but we’ve got an apparent LT already and Gaithers already bished bout playing RT after getting booted from LT by Oher. In fact, Gaither caught flak from med staff for milking an ankle injury immediately after the demotion.
NO THANKS.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
7. Yes he did.
WRONG.
Next…
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
So Shane said that Gallery, Nnamdi and Bush wouldn’t be back because of the Cable situation that night he went on the tirade.
I think those were the 3 he mentioned. He definately mentioned Gallery and Bush.
So far, he has been pretty accurate, with Bush the only one twisting in the wind.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Love it!~
Everyone ignore Brownstains.
Broken record that one.
Lates bishes and keep the faith Raider Nation!
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Damon is a life long Libtard, pull your head out of your anus you meathead.
lol @ propaganda
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Nnamdi21 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 pm
154. Look at the projects Damon’s starred in. He’s pro Repub all the way.
F him and his propaganda.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
14. Bush didn’t help his cause by getting a DUI.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:39 pm
@Mistabr0wn, that’s true, we’ll find out soon enough, but he is not worth a big contract to any extent imo – injuryprone player with too many flags.. I would personally keep him for a low to medium fee, but if it is true and he asks for money any where near 8mill a year, then he wants out and should not be brought back!
Still think Yanda is underrated and can become a solid player! Gaither as well, Wiz sr. could get him to work hard, and he will recieve a low pay but has a lot of upside if he works out..
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Gallery has been a pretty good left guard, and he’s been good with fans. Sucking it up and moving over from tackle couldn’t have been easy (although the LT money didn’t hurt). What a crappy way to treat a guy whose only crime was being faithful to the guy who helped resurrect his career (and I don’t mean Al). If I’m Jason Campbell or Darren McF, I’m not happy about this development.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:44 pm
2) OT/OG Benjamin Ijalana (Villanova), OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State), OG/OT Marcus Cannon (TCU), CB Curtis Brown (Texas), or OLB Mason Foster (Washington)
3) OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin), C Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU), NT/DT Jarrell Powe (Ole Miss), OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida), or CB Brandon Burton (Utah)
4) CB Davon House (New Mexico State), OLB/DE Dontay Moch (Nevada), OLB Casey Matthews (Oregon), or FS Robert Sands (West Virginia)
5) DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame), C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock), or FB Henry Hynoski (Pitt)
6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas), CB DeMarcus Van Dyke (Miami), or TE Jordan Cameron (USC)
7) QB Josh Portis (Cal PA) or WR Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)
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Attempt to re-sign: Miller (RFA), Bush (RFA), Reece (RFA), Satele, Bryant (RFA), Barnes, Loper, Mario Henderson, and Condo.
Huff will test the FA market. Huff seems open to coming back, but only for the right offer.
Possible FA targets:
OT Nick Kaczur or Jammal Brown
FS Jarrad Page
TE Matt Spaeth
CB Eric Wright or Richard Marshall
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Maybe we can get our #1 back for Shane.
I would make that move!
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:46 pm
Gallery will not be missed. He was the overall #2 pick in 2004. Never came close to making the Pro Bowl. Too slow and flat footed to play tackle. Every player before and the six taken after him made the Pro Bowl. There is no substitute for speed. He is a good person.
Good luck in Seattle.
Eli Manning (traded to Giants)[4]) Quarterback Mississippi
2 Oakland Raiders Robert Gallery Offensive Tackle Iowa
3 Arizona Cardinals Larry Fitzgerald Wide receiver Pittsburgh
4 New York Giants Philip Rivers (traded to Chargers[4]) Quarterback NC State
5 Washington Redskins Sean Taylor Free safety Miami (FL)
6 Cleveland Browns (from Detroit[4]) Kellen Winslow II Tight end Miami (FL)
7 Detroit Lions (from Cleveland[4]) Roy Williams Wide receiver Texas
8 Atlanta Falcons DeAngelo Hall Cornerback Virginia Tech
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Denver_Broncos
The Broncos have released defensive linemen Justin Bannan and Jamal Williams. #fb
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Bush gave Cable mild support he didnt come remotely close to crossing any line. Shane on the other hand….lmao
Get a #1 for Shane thats all I’m sayin…
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
injuryprone player with too many flags..
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We only have one starting O-lineman who is not injury-prone and is amongst the league leading O-lineman in least amount of penalties.
His name is…….Cooper Carlisle.
Missed one start in 4 years, and 9 penalties in 4 years.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Just Fire Baby Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:50 pm
injuryprone player with too many flags..
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We only have one starting O-lineman who is not injury-prone and is amongst the league leading O-lineman in least amount of penalties.
His name is…….Cooper Carlisle.
Missed one start in 4 years, and 9 penalties in 4 years.
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We would have been better off this last year if he had missed more games. Carlisle should never have been a starter last year. He just happened to be one of Cable’s favorites.
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:58 pm
@JFB, wouldn’t call Veldheer injuryprone, but valid point with the injury and flags on the line, and Carlisle has been consistent and reliable in years, but talentwise he just isnt gonna cut it in a full time powerscheme – he will be a good fit in a zone scheme somewhere, and should be traded if we can get anything for him.. But just dont see him keeping a starting job in a powerscheme, no matter how reliable he is, he is too small and not strong enough.. Campbell hopefully is ready.. Still need some competition though!
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Trotting out Herrera to do stupid shcyttt like this only makes The Raiders look more childish. I used to tolerate shcytt like this now I just SMH in disbelief. Nice one Al. 86 going back to 16.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:02 pm
SistabrownNose
I have been silverandblack666 for 6 years on this blog and have been banned for calling the mod a troll but have never used any other moniker.
Your private investigator skills are lacking and you should stick to what you know best….rubbing old men with KY jelly at the bath house and making poor political choices then defending them with your low IQ and poorly written posts.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Huffy247
I might just get some money from stan when I get to Houston tomorrow, cause we know he got it.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Al Davis signed Cooper Carlisle in 2007 while Tom Cable was still going through the hoops to be allowed on the coaching staff as an OL coach.
Apparently, Cooper Carlisle was an Al Davis favorite at some time as well.
He also had the best AV rating (7) of any of our O-lineman last year I believe.
Better than Veldheer’s, Gallery’s and Satele’s.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:07 pm
We won’t be pining for the days of Cooper Carlisle, but I don’t think he is as easily replaced as some believe.
He went a whole season without missing a start or getting called for a penalty!!!!
I don’t think that will ever happen again in Oakland.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:09 pm
Stefan Wisniewski (OG/CPenn State)
Danny Watkins (G Baylor) or Colin Kaepernick
Marcus Gilbert (OT/G Florida)
Demarcus Van Dyke (CB Miami)
Tori Gurley (WR)
D.J. Holt (ILB Cal)
Trade Carlisle for a 3rd? Is it possible? Pick up Kaepernick and Watkins?
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Note: Trade him to Seattle
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Stefan Wisniewski (OG/CPenn State)
Danny Watkins (G Baylor) & Colin Kaepernick (QB ND)
Marcus Gilbert (OT/G Florida)
Demarcus Van Dyke (CB Miami)
Tori Gurley (WR Cocks)
D.J. Holt (ILB Cal)
Trade Carlisle to Seattle for a 3rd rounder.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:13 pm
So what. Who cares. he sucked. Don’t pull a muscle heading out the door Bobby boy.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Cable turned Gallery from a Tony Mandarich-like bust into a good (not great), if injury-prone, LG.
Good, injury-prone LG’s are a dime a dozen. We already have a good, NON-injury-prone LG on the roster in Mr. Daniel Loper.
In other words, Mr. Gallery, thanks for 7 mostly-not-totally-sucky years. Goodbye.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:16 pm
“He was asking for $8 million a year, and we were willing to pay him in the $2.5 million range,” Raiders executive John Herrera told beat writer Steve Corkran. “His asking price was way too high.”
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2.5 million…?????????
Herrera is effen $tup!d or what…???
Giving other (below average)players 10 million a year!!!
And average players 2.5?????
THATS WHY WE’RE THE RAIDERS!!!!!!!!
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:18 pm
That’s the thing about being a Raider fan, you never know when Davis is going to F’up. You know it’s coming though.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:25 pm
I prefer not mention the contract disagreements, but what’s so horrible about saying Gallery wanted more than we were willing to offer? I don’t see it as trashing. Now should Al be trashed for signing Routt and Wimbley for all that money if it means losing a Nnamdi Bush and or Huff? You’re damn right
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:27 pm
You think we’ve already offered Nnamdi Huff and Bush contracts?
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:34 pm
I’m sure Bush will be back. I think Gallery was a Cable guy. This is Hue Jacksons team, for the time being.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:35 pm
If Herrera is to be believed, that’s a ridiculous request. Kheomatu is a better and more durable guard and is making $4 mill a year.
This makes me think that the pundits were right, and Gallery wanted to leave for Seattle. I bet there was a middle ground to be reached between $8 and $2.5 that Gallery could have had if he really wanted it.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:36 pm
Gallery was the Chaz Schilens of the O-line,,,,he was supposed to be the best of the group but was just average & full of injuries. BUST!!! Good luck elsewhere & please take Sam Williams with you.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
“This is Hue Jacksons team, for the time being.”
Until next year when Al whips out his overhead projector and berates Hue in front on the next coach he is hiring.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:38 pm
I do agree that the classy thing to do would have been to let sleeping dogs lie. We could have read “He offered this, but I wanted this” behind “Mr. Davis and I had a talk.” Don’t really see the purpose in Herrera spelling it out for us.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Gallery was also the best O-lineman the Raiders had.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:43 pm
gallery was a loser…the one consistant thing in all the losing years since the super bowl. He had to go.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:44 pm
24hr. extension on the CBA..
Guess we don’t have to cue the late, great Warren Zevon just yet…
“Send Lawyers, guns and money. Cause the isht has hit the fan.”
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:48 pm
I might not agree how it reportedly went down but that line needs a complete overhaul and that means cutting Gallery loose. Get a few decent lineman in FA then draft draft draft,,,, power linemen ,, none of that zone blocking b.s. Jason Campbell & Darren McFadden won’t be too upset about Gallery leaving, he wasn’t on the field half the time anyway.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Dueces! Either you want to be here a part of this team, or GET OUT! We dont have the luxury of paying Gallery 8+ Mill a year for mediocre OG play. He isnt on Mankins or Hutchinsons Level, plus although guards are getting more money, it’s going to take FIVE MEN on the O-line to play well, and that 8 mill can be for two decent guards. Im not mad at Gallery not being here! He has dissapointed, so later for him! The Raiders need a replacement at LG, but with the change in philosophy from ZONE to POWER, we probably had to retool the line with bigger players at guard anyway. Gallery was supposed to be a franchise LT! He was an OK guard who was injured a lot! We played many games without him, and I think he spent more time at car shows and tatoo parlors than in the weight room. Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out!
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:52 pm
how much is Gallery willing to take to be on the Seattle Seahawks injured reserve list? 2.5 mill?!
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Kell, if you dont like Al you shouldnt be a Raider fan. Just sayin, its his team.
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:55 pm
#3 – Just fire baby how do you know he was asking for 6? Plus what exactly did hew want as a signing bonus w/ that 6 mil salary? Anyway ill just get to the point–
you dont know jack, get off the raiders blog you useless cry baby!!!
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:58 pm
2nd Paea, DT, run def. Fixed
3rd Moffitt, C/OG
4th Moch, OLB
5TH FUSCO, C/OG
6TH VAN DYKE CB
7TH A CORNER or lineman
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Jamarcus Russells Oakland house is in foreclosure. LMAO
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
- Two of every three Americans oppose Gingrich’s plan to abolish the EPA.
- 63 percent of Americans across party lines “want the government to be doing more than it’s currently doing” to hold polluters accountable.
- Nearly seven in 10 “believe that EPA scientists, rather than Congress, should set pollution standards.”
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Haha good find bcz24.. Though I doubt he’s broke.. Yet
He probably just stopped paying when he got cut and with the way the market is it’s just now going through the process.. I think the kids smarter than people give him credit for–
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Every time the organization opens its mouth (Herrera) it looks foolish. Just leave it alone. Some of the things they choose to address just look silly.
Hey, if one side is willing to offer x amount and the other side wants y amount and they can’t come to an understanding then it really is a mutual parting.
sheesh.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Why work for a meglomaniacal owner when you can get paid millions to work in a better organization?
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:19 pm
Herrera is a scumbag, for sure. Really don’t like the guy.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:21 pm
I hate John Herrera and all ars kissers like him in the real world so much!
It say a lot about Al Davis if a person of caliber of Herrera is his right hand man.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Herrera is a hired goon who couldn’t even get on another teams payroll as a file clerk.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Wouldn’t be shocked to see Gallery in Denver.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:25 pm
Gallery tried to be classy and not sling mud on the way out….so what do the Raiders do? Unnecessarily address something that doesn’t need addressing. If this was a star player leaving, then fine, address it. Nnamdi’s departure should be addressed. I’ll bet they treat it like nothing important.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Every time the Raiders publicly embarrass a coach or player that “Raider for life” mantra rings a bit more hollow.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:32 pm
when gallery popped off when cable got whacked he should have been whacked then…. F off gallery…dont want you….
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
That POS Herrera should never speak for the Raiders. Send out someone that can at least look and talk the part, even if they are just an Al Davis parrot.
Smoke Potters!
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
A totally classless organization, thanks to Big Al, of course.
Any time Herrera shows up, it’s a real bad thing.
Makes me embarrassed to be a Raider fan. Can’t they leave Gallery alone on his way out?
In Big Al’s world, you’re either ally or enemy. I guess he decided that Gallery is an enemy.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
When Nnamdi leaves, Al Davis will issue a press release touting himself for finding Nnamdi in the draft.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:34 pm
67.Thec07 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:32 pm
when gallery popped off when cable got whacked he should have been whacked then…. F off gallery…dont want you….
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Did Gallery ever say anything publicly? I just remember a certain loud-mouthed punter talking out of line.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Gallery may not have played as well as all fans wanted him him to be playing as #2 pick of the draft but he was always classy and humble and did a lot for the Oakland community in terms of fundraising events. To unnecessarily throw him under the bus by a clown act like Hererra is an insult to the entire Raiders nation as far as I’m concerned.
Al Davis, You should be ashamed of yourself. Karma will get you soon. Don’t worry. It always will.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
And another thing: Gallery, while not great, is a better player than Routt or Wimbley.
This off-season is starting to smell real bad.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Yeah Dak he did say he was out, along with Slecler, and MBUSH….
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
F gallery….He cn go puond sand…He would rather kiss cable A$$ than be a Raider….
Oh I fogot cable made him a “great” OG…Yeah right, you were a bust at OT….
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
3.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
He was asking for $8 million a year, and we were willing to pay him in the $2.5 million range,”
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As opposed to Stanford Routt who was asking for the $6 million range but we were willing to pay him $10 per year
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Yeah….weird huh? An important leader of that O-Line is sent packing and Routt is making 10 million a year?
Sheesh.
Anyways, lets hope Daniel Loper is ready to be the new starting LG.
I have confidence in Loper actually. He played well in the pre season and in spot starting duty when he replaced Gallery for two games due to injury I believe.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Thec07 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:39 pm
F gallery….He cn go puond sand…He would rather kiss cable A$$ than be a Raider….
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At this point I’d be amazed if you passed the 3rd grade.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:40 pm
Raider75 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Wouldn’t be shocked to see Gallery in Denver.
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Would welcome that he would just get worked by our dline….F him….
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Karma will get Al Davis? LOL. Karma has got him. He’s 8 years without a winning season, and will probably never have one again. He’s living in a sea of his bad karma.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Raider fans enjoy the rest of your Day…
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Loper has great fumble recovery skills.
That’s about all I know on him.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
68.Dakota Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:33 pm
That POS Herrera should never speak for the Raiders. Send out someone that can at least look and talk the part, even if they are just an Al Davis parrot.
Smoke Potters!
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Agreed. Herrera is a piece of garbage.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:42 pm
“JaMarcus Russell’s return to greatness isn’t going as well as planned.
The former No. 1 pick of the Oakland Raiders, famous for wearing mink coats and taxing a heavy toll on the team’s bench, needs to find a job soon.
Foreclosure proceedings have started on Russell’s Oakland mansion, according to TMZ. If the former LSU star can’t come up with $195,512.05 in backed mortgage payments in the next three months, his house will be auctioned off.
Russell purchased the house in 2007 for $3 million before he even signed his contract with the Raiders.
The 5,800-square-foot has six bedrooms, six full bathrooms and two half bathrooms, a four-car garage, four fireplaces and bay views.
Russell returned to his native Alabama after being released by the Raiders in 2009. His attempts to return to the NFL have been slowed down by charges that Russell was illegally sipping “purple drank.”
The Raiders signed Russell to a six-year contract worth up to $68 million, with $31.5 million guaranteed. But in true Al Davis fashion, the team is trying to recuperate some of that signing bonus.”
Now this guy deserves what he gets. I can’t wait till I see him on pawn stars trying to get rid of that ridiculous necklace. Rick will tell him that there isn’t much of a market for Jamarcus Russell items and then ask him if he wants a $1,000 loan on it.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Why can’t they just let the Russell thing go? They act like he’s a runaway slave or something.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:47 pm
TMZ has a link specifically for high-profile foreclosures.
Jamarcus should be pretty happy he is still considered “high-profile”.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:56 pm
AT this point it’s not Russell’s choice to be high profile. Others are making him that way.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Dakota Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Every time the organization opens its mouth (Herrera) it looks foolish. Just leave it alone. Some of the things they choose to address just look silly.
Hey, if one side is willing to offer x amount and the other side wants y amount and they can’t come to an understanding then it really is a mutual parting.
sheesh.
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Exactly Davis can’t help himself. Zero class.
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Guys, turn on your televisions! Hurry! JaMarcus Russell is in a white bronco with Al Cowlings being chased by the police!
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Great news! Now Wiz 2.0 can play LG and wear #76!
Ohhh the Silver lining.
Considering our need now Wiz will not be so much of a reach @ #48.
In Al we trust!
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:58 pm
IF Gallery really wanted 8 million a year…
He was ok but not THAT good.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:00 pm
gallery on any afc west team but the raiders is a welcomed sight!
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:00 pm
The more I read on Wiz 2.0 the more I want to pass on him.
Lacks lower body strength, more of a ZBS guy, and especially this part on his NFLN analysis:
“Doesn’t finish blocks or possess a mean streak”.
Just because his uncle could be a bible-thumper and a mean dude on the field, doesn’t necessarily mean his nephew will.
What if he is just a giant bible-thumping pu$$y by NFL standards?
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:01 pm
73.RaiderfanNY Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:37 pm
And another thing: Gallery, while not great, is a better player than Routt or Wimbley.
This off-season is starting to smell real bad.
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Apples and Oranges my friend.
Gallery was a very good LG I agree, but Wim is also a very good OLB, and Routt is a very good DB.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Gallery is overated …
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Here’s the link for my source:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/stefen-wisniewski?id=2495250#tabs:tab-analysis
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
All we know is Gallery was a #2 pick and he played like dog crap at LT, looked like a statue and made no type of adjustment to the pros…. But was great at guard when he was healthy…. He was a total bust like stenchcomb except a coach showed mercy upon him by changing his position… Very nice guy and had the look of a Raider but never was consistent… We are better off with somebody who can be more durable…..
O-line : veldeheer – wiz – saetele – Campbell -vet free agent or we are in trouble
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
64.Raider75 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 3:23 pm
Wouldn’t be shocked to see Gallery in Denver.
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Awesome, now Houston, Seymour, ShoNasty, and Kelly can punk his AZZ!
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Who thinks a team will give Gallery a look @ LT?
I do.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Daniel Loper will be the new starting LG or TCU O-Linemen Marcus Cannon will be.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:08 pm
# The Dirtee Raccoon Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Awesome, now Houston, Seymour, ShoNasty, and Kelly can punk his AZZ!
……….
Thank you for giving us the 10 year old kid take on the situation.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:09 pm
96.1eyedpirate Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:02 pm
All we know is Gallery was a #2 pick and he played like dog crap at LT, looked like a statue and made no type of adjustment to the pros…. But was great at guard when he was healthy…. He was a total bust like stenchcomb except a coach showed mercy upon him by changing his position… Very nice guy and had the look of a Raider but never was consistent… We are better off with somebody who can be more durable…..
O-line : veldeheer – wiz – saetele – Campbell -vet free agent or we are in trouble
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Blame Old Man Al for picking the alligator armed Gallery in the first place….we should have had LARRY FITZGERALD!
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Gallery was terrible at LT . If he were to go back to tackle it would be at RT . And then he would get injured again !
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Dmac will flourish under a power blocking scheme…. I miss the raider way of building a line… We always had a few maulers that could occupy guys for days…. A pulling guard who can open a hole like no other….. Let’s hope Al and Hue can bring it back cuz let’s face it, our true weakness has been this weak dancing around zone scheme that gets dmac tackled for losses and our poor QBs have to run for their lives immediately after they drop back…. No time to set up and scan field…. An yeah that was a key factor to Jamarcus’ playing woes…. We need a solid line before we start thinking post season !!!!
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
I don’t think Wiz would be a good fit as a Guard for a primarily power blocking scheme.
He would be a far better fit as a possible Raider Center.
He has bulked up and got stronger since being at Penn St, where he was barely 300 pounds. He was a solid 6′3, 313 pounds at the combine.
That’s good size for a Center.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Man Fitzgerald would have been a great pick…. So would have been Calvin Johnson instead of Russell’s sizurp sippn ass….
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
I meant Wiz would not be a good fit as a Guard. He needs gain another 10-12 pounds to be power blocking Guard.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:16 pm
DKnight007,
Any concern that he only played center 12 games of his life? (junior year of college)
Never played Center in HS or his Fresh, Soph or Senior years in college.
Not trying to be too down on the guy, but I just never have warmed to him.
If he does go to Center, realistically when can we expect him to start? Certainly not day 1.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
We won’t know if his release will be a good or bad thing until a player gets inserted on his place and then we can see Gallerys true worth…. My bet is it won’t change much of anything….
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
1eyedpirate Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Dmac will flourish under a power blocking scheme
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Nobody know’s that. Furthermore nobody knows how the Raider Line will perform next year.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
107.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:16 pm
DKnight007,
Any concern that he only played center 12 games of his life? (junior year of college)
Never played Center in HS or his Fresh, Soph or Senior years in college.
Not trying to be too down on the guy, but I just never have warmed to him.
If he does go to Center, realistically when can we expect him to start? Certainly not day 1.
^^^^^^^
I think Penn St played him at Guard his senior year, because he was needed more there.
However, if he is to play Guard with the Raiders…being 313 pounds maybe too light….per say.
I think he would be a good Guard though as he gets stronger. The kid has the bloodlines and one thing you can see at the Combine during his drills….is that he has sound TECHNIQUE and FUNDAMENTALS.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Yeah O-line has been one big hole since the Superbowl Year.
I was actually happy that we drafted an O-lineman when we got gallery, but I think we should have drafted more or looked to FA.
Since the Gallery pick, there Raiders have not brought in PROBOWL or 1st Round talent to the O-LINE.
Every other position has seen a 1st Rounder or Ex-Probowler brought in.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:22 pm
If Marcus Cannon is there in Round 2 for the Raiders….that would be a great pick IMO. Better than Wiz would be.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
Best player available at a position of need!
Not best relative of a former player.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:28 pm
I’m sure pres purp lips is working on a bailout with our tax dollars as we speak.
Way to go Brownie…
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Foreclosure proceedings have started on Russell’s Oakland mansion, according to TMZ. If the former LSU star can’t come up with $195,512.05 in backed mortgage payments in the next three months, his house will be auctioned off.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:29 pm
This is all true.
KK doesn’t knows notthing about anything, well said old man.
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# KoolKell Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:18 pm
Nobody know’s that. Furthermore nobody knows how the Raider Line will perform next year.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:32 pm
I don’t see what the big deal is about Herrera talking to Corkran. It’s not like the Raiders had a press conference or released a statement or anything.
A local beat writer got a comment from the club on a popular player who was not retained. They didn’t trash they guy, just said his asking price was too high.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
104.DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
I don’t think Wiz would be a good fit as a Guard for a primarily power blocking scheme.
He would be a far better fit as a possible Raider Center.
He has bulked up and got stronger since being at Penn St, where he was barely 300 pounds. He was a solid 6′3, 313 pounds at the combine.
That’s good size for a Center.
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How about we take the best C on the board?
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
I was just looking at the raider contracts for 2011 and we have major cap space.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Alot of D-Linemen/OLB’s will be getting picked in Round 1 of the draft. Then the top tier O-Line guys will go plus some CB’s and WR’s and RB’s.
So I’m pretty sure a second tier G/RT prospect like Marcus Cannon from TCU will be there when the Raiders pick.
At least I hope so!
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
117.J Hill Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
104.DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
I don’t think Wiz would be a good fit as a Guard for a primarily power blocking scheme.
He would be a far better fit as a possible Raider Center.
He has bulked up and got stronger since being at Penn St, where he was barely 300 pounds. He was a solid 6′3, 313 pounds at the combine.
That’s good size for a Center.
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How about we take the best C on the board?
^^^^^^
I would rather have Marcus Cannon ahead of a second tier Center with that Round 2 pick.
Raiders can probably get a Center like Jake Kirkpatrick in Round 3.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Jacobs is due $4.65 million next season. The team would love to sign Ahmad Bradshaw and lower Jacobs’ contract number.
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Bush’s contract # should be easy to come up with. He shouldn’t be asking or expecting more than Jacobs.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Well alot of D-Linemen/OLB’s will be getting picked in Round 1 of the draft. Then the top tier O-Line guys will go plus some CB’s and WR’s and RB’s and some QB’s.
So I’m pretty sure a second tier G/RT prospect like Marcus Cannon from TCU will be there when the Raiders pick.
At least I hope so!
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:41 pm
MB, who was president when Al Davis drafted JaMarcus Russell?
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Donkeys release “Ja-maul” Williams.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Rd 2- G/RT Marcus Cannon
Rd 3- C Jake Kirkpatrick or WILL OLB Dontay Moch
Rd 4- WILL OLB Clay Matthews or RB Delone Carter or RT Marcus Gilbert
Rd 5- DT/DE Cedric Thornton
Rd 6- CB or TE
Rd 7- TE or CB
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:51 pm
A blocking FB may also come into play as a Raider pick in Round 6 or 7 also.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
If Nnamdi and Huff leave…..the Raiders will only have TWO 1st round picks from this decade still on the team…….DMAC and Rolando McClain.
Only Routt, Lechler and Janikowski will be only contributors on the roster since 2006.
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Hard to win when all your promising players don’t develop or bail out
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
“Thus, the Republican Party is now a coalition of three separate constituencies with confluent interests. The first group is made up of traditional conservatives. These are highly patriotic Americans who believe in limited government, the primacy of the people over government, and fiscal responsibility. But the other two groups that have coalesced within the GOP are much more malevolent – international business interests, and social bigots.
It is the former of these two, international business, that controls the GOP. It’s made up of wealthy and highly educated individuals with huge amounts of monetary resources, and thus, political influence – and they use every bit of that leverage to manipulate what has become their citizen army – the social bigots. These are the people who hate any and everybody who doesn’t look, think, and act like themselves.
The social bigots are the people we see armed to the teeth at presidential speeches, disrupting town hall meetings, and fighting against their own interests. In short, these are the “Joe the Plumbers” of the world who are being deluded by corporatist propaganda. Also among their ranks are the diehard racists who are still fighting to promote a segregationist agenda.
But the social bigots are merely the soldiers of the party. The corporatists, who control the GOP, have never lost sight of their 70-year-old mission to undo the New Deal. But they’ve found that the safety-net that President Roosevelt provided for the people is much too popular to attack head on, so they had to devise a plan to chip away at it.
Then came 9/11, so they decided to used the war in I raq to ravage the national treasury. They then gave themselves a $4 trillion taxcut to further deplete the treasury, and now they’re telling the poor and middle class, “Sorry, but we no longer have the revenue to fund the programs that you’ve come to depend on for the past 70 years.” And in the meantime, Gov. Scott Walker is hard at work in Wisconsin trying to dismantle the Fair Labor Standards Act.
So, can a leopard change its spots? Yes it can – and with regard to the Democratic and Republican parties, the leopard has changed in a very big way. But the modern GOP has never been prone to allowing the facts to distort a well-crafted lie. That’s why they have such a fierce aversion to a well-educated electorate.
Thus, the facts dictate that the modern GOP’s claim to have any connection with President Lincoln whatsoever – other than the enemy of everything he stood for – is not only a gross distortion of history, but a flat out lie. The fact is, if the Civil War was being fought today, the GOP would be the Con federacy.
. . . Don’t mention it, Abe. I got this.”
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
117.J Hill Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
104.DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
I don’t think Wiz would be a good fit as a Guard for a primarily power blocking scheme.
He would be a far better fit as a possible Raider Center.
He has bulked up and got stronger since being at Penn St, where he was barely 300 pounds. He was a solid 6′3, 313 pounds at the combine.
That’s good size for a Center.
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How about we take the best C on the board?
^^^^^^
I would rather have Marcus Cannon ahead of a second tier Center with that Round 2 pick.
Raiders can probably get a Center like Jake Kirkpatrick in Round 3.
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I Agree. Marcus Cannon ahead of Wiz 2.0 is a much better choice. Just because his name is Wiz doesn’t mean he’ll be NFL caliber. He’s actually a little on the small size for today’s NFL standards. the BIG NT’s he’d face at center would be throwing him around like they do to Satele. I’d much rather see AD pick up a decent OLT in FA and roll Veldheer back to center. He can handle the BIG NT’s. Put Cannon at ORT, BCampbell at ORG & Loper at OLG. That would give us a line that should stand up to most defenses. we need a mauling ground & pound O-line. If we can move the ball successfully on the ground the pass blocking won’t be as critical given play action plays. Actually, that line-up should do just fine with pass blocking too.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
What’s up with Julian Petersen (Ex-49er LB)? I see he was released by the lions. Should he be considered?
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:06 pm
Yeah, JB, the Lions just released him. Obviously, he has to be good.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:08 pm
SI just did a huge article on college football players with criminal records.
Why college *football* players, specifically?
Why now? (It’s March, all about college b-ball, NOBODY’S thinking about college football)
I wonder if there’s anything going on the football world that would make SI want to demonize football players. Hmmm….
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I won’t bite RMR. Petersen was a very good LB. Could be they are just lining him up for a longer deal. I’m just thinking AD could sneak in ahead of the Lions and get a quality player for our weak side LB spot.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I can live with Gallery leaving the team. He’s not getting 8 million anywhere until he shows he can play 16 games.
The guy the Raiders need to get rid of is this John Herrera character. Other than keeping Tim Kawakami in check he what in the hell does he do? He’s Al’s freakin’ “yes man”. Get him out of there.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:10 pm
106.DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:14 pm
I meant Wiz would not be a good fit as a Guard. He needs gain another 10-12 pounds to be power blocking Guard.
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LOL, are you a stregth and conditioning coach?
Not many good gaurds come out over 315 lb’s. Once in a real NFL program then the correct playing weight can be established, and obtained. And strength will be added to areas of need/overall.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:11 pm
JB Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:09 pm
I won’t bite RMR. Petersen was a very good LB.
………
Was?
By your admission, he’s a has-been.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:12 pm
Just how was Tim Kawakami put in check?
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Bob Sanders signing 1 year deal with Chargers according to Shefter.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
131.JB Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:05 pm
What’s up with Julian Petersen (Ex-49er LB)? I see he was released by the lions. Should he be considered?
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HE would be great @ WOLB.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:14 pm
139.Raider75 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Bob Sanders signing 1 year deal with Chargers according to Shefter.
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Cool, I hope they plan on him playing a full 16 games… lol B. Sanders will be the first player put on IR in 2011.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
And another thing,….we better sign Sampson Satele. Watch the tape, this guy really came into his own the second half of the season.
Guy played like a pissed of Hawaiian bore hog, rootin’ around in a sugar cane field lookin’ to light someone downfield.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:19 pm
RealMaddenRaider,…..check this out: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2008/09/22/the-raiders-john-herrera-vs-me-in-front-of-the-cameras-today-well-that-was-fun/
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Albinator, I’m aware of Kawakami’s incident with John Herrera. My question was, just how was Kawakami “put in check”?
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:20 pm
“I’ll always remember being able to come out of the tunnel of that stadium, into the Black Hole,” Gallery said. “That was exhilarating and never got old. I loved being a part of a group that helped bring the Raiders back to where they were in the past. It’s just that now it’s time to go someplace else.”
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
How is making public that Gallery wanted 8 million “trashing” him? Doesn’t strike me as terribly vindictive, just Davis wanting the fans to know why he wasn’t re-signing Gallery.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
129.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:57 pm
“Thus, the Republican Party is now a coalition of three separate constituencies with confluent interests. The first group is made up of traditional conservatives. These are highly patriotic Americans who believe in limited government, the primacy of the people over government, and fiscal responsibility. But the other two groups that have coalesced within the GOP are much more malevolent – international business interests, and social bigots.
It is the former of these two, international business, that controls the GOP. It’s made up of wealthy and highly educated individuals with huge amounts of monetary resources, and thus, political influence – and they use every bit of that leverage to manipulate what has become their citizen army – the social bigots. These are the people who hate any and everybody who doesn’t look, think, and act like themselves.
The social bigots are the people we see armed to the teeth at presidential speeches, disrupting town hall meetings, and fighting against their own interests. In short, these are the “Joe the Plumbers” of the world who are being deluded by corporatist propaganda. Also among their ranks are the diehard racists who are still fighting to promote a segregationist agenda.
But the social bigots are merely the soldiers of the party. The corporatists, who control the GOP, have never lost sight of their 70-year-old mission to undo the New Deal. But they’ve found that the safety-net that President Roosevelt provided for the people is much too popular to attack head on, so they had to devise a plan to chip away at it.
Then came 9/11, so they decided to used the war in I raq to ravage the national treasury. They then gave themselves a $4 trillion taxcut to further deplete the treasury, and now they’re telling the poor and middle class, “Sorry, but we no longer have the revenue to fund the programs that you’ve come to depend on for the past 70 years.” And in the meantime, Gov. Scott Walker is hard at work in Wisconsin trying to dismantle the Fair Labor Standards Act.
So, can a leopard change its spots? Yes it can – and with regard to the Democratic and Republican parties, the leopard has changed in a very big way. But the modern GOP has never been prone to allowing the facts to distort a well-crafted lie. That’s why they have such a fierce aversion to a well-educated electorate.
Thus, the facts dictate that the modern GOP’s claim to have any connection with President Lincoln whatsoever – other than the enemy of everything he stood for – is not only a gross distortion of history, but a flat out lie. The fact is, if the Civil War was being fought today, the GOP would be the Con federacy.
. . . Don’t mention it, Abe. I got this.”
^^^^^^^^
And people don’t know why the GOP and Republican Party are utterly EVIL!
Unreal…
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Does anyone find it unusual that SI would do a huge expose` on college football players with criminal records now?
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Raiders better score some points with that shoddy o-line.
I think the pass defense becomes a “problem” next year and the run defense will continue to do what it always does.
Add all that without a real DC and you’ve got a Houston Texan like defense.
Hopet the Raiders can put up 30+ per game!
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:24 pm
was being sarcastic. Herrera exploded on him for no apparent reason. My point is that’s the only thing I’ve seen Herrera do. And if that’s all he’s bringing to the table lets get rid of his ass. Do you know what purpose he serves? Or perhaps I’m talking to Kawakami himself……
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Gallery overpaid for duration of first contract. If Gallery really wanted to be a Raider he would have taken a pay cut as his first contract paid him way above his performance level. IMO Gallerys departure is a good thing. Satelee should be next to go. Middle of o-line is a serious weakness as evertime they lined up against a physical defense they get man handled.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Albinator, my point is, Herrera didn’t even do that. He didn’t put Kawakami in check. To put someone in check means they change the way they are, per your demand. What has changed about Kawakami? He’s still firing one shot after another at the Raiders? He went after Herrera with his column that very night. He put nobody in check.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:28 pm
On Bob Sanders… A.J. Smith: “He’s a smart, physical, instinctive player. His intensity and playmaking ability can make an immediate impact on our defense.”
He will have to stay healthy to make an impact.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
2) OT/OG Benjamin Ijalana (Villanova), OG/C Stefan Wisniewski (Penn State), OG/OT Marcus Cannon (TCU), CB Curtis Brown (Texas), or OLB Mason Foster (Washington)
3) OG/C John Moffitt (Wisconsin), C Jake Kirkpatrick (TCU), NT/DT Jarrell Powe (Ole Miss), OT Marcus Gilbert (Florida), or CB Brandon Burton (Utah)
4) CB Davon House (New Mexico State), OLB/DE Dontay Moch (Nevada), OLB Casey Matthews (Oregon), or FS Robert Sands (West Virginia)
5) DT/NT Ian Williams (Notre Dame), C/OG Brandon Fusco (Slippery Rock), or FB Henry Hynoski (Pitt)
6) DE/DT Cedrick Thornton (Southern Arkansas), CB DeMarcus Van Dyke (Miami), or TE Jordan Cameron (USC)
7) QB Josh Portis (Cal PA) or WR Ricardo Lockette (Fort Valley State)
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YA. I agree with your assesment of the Raiders draft board. i think its close. A month ago I thought Curtis Brown was a lock in the 2nd, but with Routt and CJ both back, and Brown’s 4.5 now I think it won’t be him unless he is on the board in the 3rd.
That is what makes the draft so damn hard to figure out. You just never know how each and every club values/ rates the players on their own draft board, and when they percieve value with a pick. If Brown runs a 4.39 in the 40yd dash he value on Oakland’s draft board is way up.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:29 pm
brewtal 1,….you crazy. Please seem my post #142. Then rewatch the last 4 games of the season. Sampson was on fire.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:30 pm
8 million a year ????
LMFAO!!!!!
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
I think resigning Satele is important. He is coming into his own and developing nicely and he is still young.
The old man and his warped thinking will probably think that since Satele came in during Cables regime, that he is no longer useful and it’s better to start all over again at Center with who knows who?
That’s one dimensional thinking and that is no good when it comes to the O-Line.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
The Raiders will build on the O line and inside at that. I beleive Henderson, Barnes, Veldaheer, and Langston Walker will all be back to play tackle. Bruce campbell and Satele (if he does not price him self out like Gallery) will be back, and the Raiders will look to fill the roster with 2-3 draft picks: Moffit, Wiz, Marcus Cannon,…etc. They will be in the market for Maulers.
I have read a few assemenents of little Wisnewski in which they stated he was a natural ideal fit for a zone blocking scheme; thus, making him not as valaulable to a power running team like the Raiders… any thoughts on that?
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:33 pm
I was thinking the same thing.
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inonewordraider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 2:25 pm
I prefer not mention the contract disagreements, but what’s so horrible about saying Gallery wanted more than we were willing to offer? I don’t see it as trashing. Now should Al be trashed for signing Routt and Wimbley for all that money if it means losing a Nnamdi Bush and or Huff? You’re damn right
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:34 pm
JB Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:04 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:38 pm
117.J Hill Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:34 pm
104.DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:13 pm
I don’t think Wiz would be a good fit as a Guard for a primarily power blocking scheme.
He would be a far better fit as a possible Raider Center.
He has bulked up and got stronger since being at Penn St, where he was barely 300 pounds. He was a solid 6′3, 313 pounds at the combine.
That’s good size for a Center.
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How about we take the best C on the board?
^^^^^^
I would rather have Marcus Cannon ahead of a second tier Center with that Round 2 pick.
Raiders can probably get a Center like Jake Kirkpatrick in Round 3.
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I Agree. Marcus Cannon ahead of Wiz 2.0 is a much better choice. Just because his name is Wiz doesn’t mean he’ll be NFL caliber. He’s actually a little on the small size for today’s NFL standards. the BIG NT’s he’d face at center would be throwing him around like they do to Satele. I’d much rather see AD pick up a decent OLT in FA and roll Veldheer back to center. He can handle the BIG NT’s. Put Cannon at ORT, BCampbell at ORG & Loper at OLG. That would give us a line that should stand up to most defenses. we need a mauling ground & pound O-line. If we can move the ball successfully on the ground the pass blocking won’t be as critical given play action plays. Actually, that line-up should do just fine with pass blocking too.
Not a bad idea
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:34 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
I think resigning Satele is important. He is coming into his own and developing nicely and he is still young.
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He might be looking for 5 million a year instead of the 1.3 the Raiders are offering.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
142.Albinator Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:17 pm
And another thing,….we better sign Sampson Satele. Watch the tape, this guy really came into his own the second half of the season.
Guy played like a pissed of Hawaiian bore hog, rootin’ around in a sugar cane field lookin’ to light someone downfield.
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He does have the movment of a Hog the way he throws his heard around before each snap.
But he don’t “root” the NT/DT out on the line. If you cant do that it don’t matter what you do down field, your man is in the QB’s face!
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:35 pm
DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:32 pm
I think resigning Satele is important. He is coming into his own and developing nicely and he is still young.
The old man and his warped thinking will probably think that since Satele came in during Cables regime, that he is no longer useful and it’s better to start all over again at Center with who knows who?
That’s one dimensional thinking and that is no good when it comes to the O-Line.
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DK I think that Satele will be back. Al wants to win and he will be looking to unload Carlisle. I think Satele has more value because he is younger and he came on at the end of the year last year. Carlisle will be gone because they will definately want to take Campbell for a test drive at RG, and or draft a few young capable players at that position.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
151.brewtal 1 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Gallery overpaid for duration of first contract. If Gallery really wanted to be a Raider he would have taken a pay cut as his first contract paid him way above his performance level. IMO Gallerys departure is a good thing. Satelee should be next to go. Middle of o-line is a serious weakness as evertime they lined up against a physical defense they get man handled.
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Satele should stay, unless they fine replacements that are just as good or better??
The O-Line was coming into their own last year and now they want to blow it all up and start all over?
Going to need lots of luck. Starting 3 rookies on the O-Line and a 2nd year player like Veldheer would be stupid IMO.
O-Line needs LEADERS and TALENTED, EXPERIENCED players to help the rookies out.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Did we really do that terrible when Gallery was out hurt this season? We got by so that made him expendable. He should have known that when he went to nogotiate his contract this year. In addition, he was asking for to much after a sub-performance his first contract. I did not dislike the guy but I did not think he was that great. Over rated by RAIDER FANS everywhere just because he had long stringy biker hair like the Raiders of old. : )
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Gil Brandt had Wiz rated in the last tier of his hot 100 prospects suggeting he will be a late 3rd or early 4th rd pick. I sure would be thrilled to see Oakland take Cannon in the 2nd, and Wiz in the 3rd…
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Albinator last time I checked its a 16 game season and pro bowl type players show up for them all.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Don’t mind not bringing back Gallery with his injury history, but he did help cover up alot of mistakes made by Veldheer
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:38 pm
Gallery, Carlisle and Walker are the ones I can see being let go.
If all else fails….Barnes can play LG or RT. Loper can play LG.
I’m sure they want Campbell to get reps at RG or RT as well to see where he is a better fit.
Satele needs to stay!
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
LOL!!! DK Knight I was typing the same thing basicly.
I also agree that we need veterans to man the line or we are dead in the water. I am not even sure Campbell is the answer on the line. We don’t know what he can do. Draft a rookie and get a vet.
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DKnight007 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:36 pm
151.brewtal 1 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:25 pm
Gallery overpaid for duration of first contract. If Gallery really wanted to be a Raider he would have taken a pay cut as his first contract paid him way above his performance level. IMO Gallerys departure is a good thing. Satelee should be next to go. Middle of o-line is a serious weakness as evertime they lined up against a physical defense they get man handled.
^^^^^^^^
Satele should stay, unless they fine replacements that are just as good or better??
The O-Line was coming into their own last year and now they want to blow it all up and start all over?
Going to need lots of luck. Starting 3 rookies on the O-Line and a 2nd year player like Veldheer would be stupid IMO.
O-Line needs LEADERS and TALENTED, EXPERIENCED players to help the rookies out.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:39 pm
166.dickv Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Gil Brandt had Wiz rated in the last tier of his hot 100 prospects suggeting he will be a late 3rd or early 4th rd pick. I sure would be thrilled to see Oakland take Cannon in the 2nd, and Wiz in the 3rd…
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That would be nice!
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Paying Routt $10million will probably have all of these free agents asking for the big money.
Raiders secondary to be revamped and the o-line still needs to be rebuilt after all these years.
Run defense is still awful too
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:42 pm
Going to need lots of luck. Starting 3 rookies on the O-Line and a 2nd year player like Veldheer would be stupid IMO.
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You are right on point.
3 or 4 new o-lineman
2 new defensive backs (plus losing an all-pro)
Same ole receivers……
not looking good man
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Thank you Robert Gallery for being a class act and a good teammate and a solid player for us. Best of luck in the next stage of your career and beyond!
I won’t forget the benefit for the families of the fallen East Bay police officers. It is those kinds of things that speak about your value to a community and worth as a man. Even if some people have tiny little memories.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:45 pm
And for renegotiating your contract at least once….
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:48 pm
166.dickv Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:37 pm
Gil Brandt had Wiz rated in the last tier of his hot 100 prospects suggeting he will be a late 3rd or early 4th rd pick. I sure would be thrilled to see Oakland take Cannon in the 2nd, and Wiz in the 3rd…
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This would be great.
Also we should see what B. Campbell can do.
Veld, Wiz, Cannon, Campbell is a great young core, I think.
Maybe Campbell will end up playing LG? Wiz @ C, Cannon @ RT…
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Raiders might be rebuilding the team that went 8-8.
New O-Line (needed upgrade anyway)
New Secondary (Stanford Routt is your #1..not buying it)
Possibly a new Tight End and backup RB (better hope DMAC stays healthy)
Receivers are still very raw
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:51 pm
174.JLofty Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:44 pm
Thank you Robert Gallery for being a class act and a good teammate and a solid player for us. Best of luck in the next stage of your career and beyond!
I won’t forget the benefit for the families of the fallen East Bay police officers. It is those kinds of things that speak about your value to a community and worth as a man. Even if some people have tiny little memories.
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Agreed. He was a class act as a Raider and as a Guard turned his career around and should have been a Pro Bowler IMO this past year and two years ago.
Oh well. I hope old man Al and coach Huey have a plan with the O-Line. All I know is that starting 3 rookies and 1 second year player (Veldheer) and a scholarship player (B Campbell) is NOT the way to go for the 2011 season.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
When do the Raiders bring in Vernon Gholston?
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:54 pm
I really don’t see the Raiders starting three rookies on the offensive line. They don’t have enough picks to get three rookies who are ready to start.
The Raiders are going to have to make some moves in free agency. If they’re planning on letting go of Carlisle, then they’re going into this season with two offensive linemen.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:56 pm
And “ready to start” means something much different when there are no seasoned veterans surrounding them.
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:57 pm
177.SnB Production Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:50 pm
Raiders might be rebuilding the team that went 8-8.
New O-Line (needed upgrade anyway)
New Secondary (Stanford Routt is your #1..not buying it)
Possibly a new Tight End and backup RB (better hope DMAC stays healthy)
Receivers are still very raw
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Rebuilding a team and O-Line that went 8-8 doesn’t make any sense whatsoever!
They need to RELOAD….not REBUILD!
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Satele, Loper, Barnes, and either Walker or Henderson need to be re-signed, if only for depth.
Then the Raiders need to look to free agency. Jammal Brown and Nick Kaczur may be available.
If the Raiders make those moves and draft two rookies, only then will they even have enough warm bodies on the roster to find five starters and potential backups for every position.
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:03 pm
Better beleive Bush is getting a FAT contract offer after talking him up and I finally beleive Nnamdis gone not accepting what we’ve offerred
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:04 pm
The Raiders are rebuilding. The Raiders were not a true 8-8 team in ‘10. They overachieved, primarily because of Cable and his no-nonsense approach. This is still a 4-12 squad, starting at one.
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:05 pm
The Running game is the Raiders backbone. Let’s hope Dmac/Bush are compatible with the new power system, and a new o-line.
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
I think you guys are overestimating what some mid-round rookie is going to do in their 1st year.
You also are underestimating the difficulty the Raiders have had in finding competent players for many of these positions.
How many good QBs on this team since Gannon or even the 10 years before Gannon?
How many TEs between Christenson and Miller…
How long to find any good O-Lineman
The revolving door of Safeties
Still haven’t had a receiver since Brown and Rice…
Don’t underestimate how long it takes THIS franchise to find competent…let alone good players
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Nice perspective KoolKell. Let’s also hope new o-line can pass protect. Odds are this will be a highly penalized group and the o-line has been subpar in predictable passing situations.
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:13 pm
Top 6 Raider busts according to NFL.com’s Adam Rank
QB Marc Wilson, 15th overall, 1980
One of the lesser known of LaVell Edwards‘ products to go from BYU to the NFL, but Wilson never achieved the success of Jim McMahon (who seemed born to wear the silver and black) or Steve Young. The Raiders traded Ken Stabler for Dan Pastorini and drafted Wilson to be the quarterback of the future. But it was Jim Plunkett who would lead the Raiders to two Super Bowl titles.
Could have had: LB Otis Wilson would have been a perfect Raider, right?
5. Gallery, second overall, 2004
Gallery was going to get a pass here because he did play seven seasons for the Raiders and was serviceable during that time after switching from tackle. But again, taking a serviceable player with the second overall pick does not get it done. Especially when you look at the players who were drafted around him.
Could have had: In order, Larry Fitzgerald, Philip Rivers, Sean Taylor, Ben Roethlisberger … to name a few. Think of this: 14 players taken after Gallery in the first round of the 2004 draft made the Pro Bowl. Rivers is especially painful because, until this season, he had been living it up by owning the Raiders.
4. OT John Clay, 15th overall, 1987
The Raiders had a bad stretch in the mid-1980s, starting with the first-round selections of WR Jessie Hester (1985), DE Bob Buczkowksi (1986) and Clay (the Raiders rebounded with Tim Brown in 1988). Clay, though, was the exclamation point. He played in just 10 games in his only season with the Raiders and lasted two years in the NFL.
Could have had: The Raiders whiffed on a tackle and missed out on Harris Barton and Bruce Matthews. Wow, imagine if the Raiders had gone Bernie Kosar (1985), Ernest Givins (1986) and Matthews over those three years. That’s a nice team.
3. S Patrick Bates, 12th overall, 1993
Bates started in only nine games during his three years with the Raiders. And he didn’t go on to bigger things when he was traded to the Falcons, finishing his career with one interception.
Could have had: DE Michael Strahan went in the second round in 1993, but a more realistic approach would have had the Raiders taking Darrien Gordon, or even better, George Teague, who seemed like he would have been an outstanding Raider.
2. QB Todd Marinovich, 24th overall 1991
The Raiders probably were suffering from too much nostalgia when they gave the left-handed Marinovich the No. 12 jersey. But Marinovich, who was groomed to play football from the womb, never really seemed to fit into being a professional football player and instead focused on other interests. He lasted only two years with the Raiders.
Could have had: If the Raiders really wanted a quarterback, they could have grabbed the guy who went nine picks later, Brett Favre.
1. QB JaMarcus Russell, first overall 2007
Seriously?
Could have had: Let’s limit this to the guys in the first 15 picks — Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, and Darrelle Revis.
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I would probaly leave Gallery off the list in favor of a few others- DHB, Tyler Brayton, etc;
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:14 pm
If you need any more proof that our days as an empire are nearing an end:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110303/us_yblog_thelookout/the-most-typical-face-on-the-planet
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
179.SnB Production Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 5:53 pm
When do the Raiders bring in Vernon Gholston?
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Now that teams have an extra 24 hours to sign players probaly immedietley.
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
I don’t know what Al Davis expects out of Hue Jackson but I have to think bringing our run/pass ratio further to the pass side is one thing. For those of you looking forward to an improved running attack…
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011swisniewski.php
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:29 pm
118.JustWinBaby Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:36 pm
I was just looking at the raider contracts for 2011 and we have major cap space.
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What kind of #’s are we talking here?
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:30 pm
DutchRaider77 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Donkeys release “Ja-maul” Williams
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good one
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
HairyBush,
Gallery was victimized by the poor coaching and coaching chaos. Changing positions early on and all the confusion.
Sure the guy is limited…but the Raiders have done a terrible job developing players.
The only player’s they have developed from scratch are going to leave (Asomugha and Huff).
Probably going to mean another 5 DBs drafted in the 1st two rounds for the next 5 years
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:33 pm
Probably going to mean another 5 DBs drafted in the 1st two rounds for the next 5 years
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Yep.
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:46 pm
196.SnB Production Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:31 pm
HairyBush,
Gallery was victimized by the poor coaching and coaching chaos. Changing positions early on and all the confusion.
Sure the guy is limited…but the Raiders have done a terrible job developing players.
The only player’s they have developed from scratch are going to leave (Asomugha and Huff).
Probably going to mean another 5 DBs drafted in the 1st two rounds for the next 5 years
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I can live without Huff, A part of me thinks he stepped up his game just in time for a new contract. I would not be heartbroken if he left. Nnamdi’s another story, I hope by some miracle he sticks around to see things thru.
I agree Gallery was not in a position to succeed (until recently anyways). That is one of the reasons I don’t consider him in the top 5 as far as Raiders all time busts go. He will probaly be a pro bowler soon.
In regards to your comment about the Raiders drafting 5 DB’s in the 1st 2 rounds the next 5 years…
I say Unfortunetley the Raiders do have the habit on going crazy in the draft when it comes to DB’s, So I couls see that happening. I was hoping for Jonathan Joseph but he had a 1st and 3rd round tender placed on hims no thanks at that price. BTW Rod Woodson may have the ear of Nnamdi when it is all said and done.
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:47 pm
192.The Real MaddenRaider Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
I don’t know what Al Davis expects out of Hue Jackson but I have to think bringing our run/pass ratio further to the pass side is one thing. For those of you looking forward to an improved running attack…
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Looks like Al has you baffled to like he will the rest of the intire league. Go ahead and think 70/pass and 30/run and watch HUE run the ground game to a division title.
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Jerry said whoever has post #200 of this thread wins a date with Amy Trask and all the Raideretts at the same time. (Amy pays for dinner)
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:52 pm
Look at that, I’m the grand prize winner!
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Bob Sanders just signed with the Chokers. Damn! If that dude stays healthy, then they just upgraded their backfield big time.
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
202.aig-raiders Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Bob Sanders just signed with the Chokers. Damn! If that dude stays healthy, then they just upgraded their backfield big time.
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don’t worry he won’t
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:55 pm
(stay healthy)
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Gholston makes history among draft busts
According to numbers compiled by the Wall Street Journal’s Michael Salfino, free agent Vernon Gholston is the only defensive end drafted in the top 10 to fail to record a single sack since the stat became official in 1982.It’s a tad misleading since Gholston was originally drafted as an outside linebacker before switching to defensive end last season. The larger point is relevant, though, that Gholston is one of the biggest defensive draft busts in the modern era. The history of the other top busts at defensive end suggests the Jets won’t regret waiving Gholston. Mar 1, 8:17 PM
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He has Raider written all over him lol
typical Al project.
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Can we sign Aundray Bruce?
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Make Vernon Gholston a TE lol
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Don’t worry, I’ll be watching to see if Hue runs the ball.
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:04 pm
55 minutes ago – CB Chris Houston will test free agency rather than signing his tender offer from the Lions, the Detroit Free Press reports. “It’s business, and every team is kind of trying to take the cheaper road out, which we expected,” Houston said. Lions RapidReports
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nickle back for depth?
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:05 pm
RMR I know your take on ex Lions lol
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:05 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tommie-Harris-bids-Chicago-adieu-with-wistful-ne;_ylt=AoDHwyD6mzbYiOJZxVoVWORDubYF?urn=nfl-329239
Class move by a great player that had his effectiveness reduced due to a serious knee injury. I’m a Sooner fan so there will always be a soft spot for Tommie Harris; I just wish that he hadn’t destroyed his knee. Could have been a Hall of Famer.
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Whose side are you on in the NFL labor dispute?
20% The owners
19% The players
61% Nobody’s side: Just get a deal done
Total Votes: 11020
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Just get it done!
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Gallery leaving IS a mutual decision and Gallery is correct in saying it that way.
Raiders admitted they were willing to pay 2.5 mill. and Gallery wanted 8 mill.
If the Raiders were WILLING to offer him a contract PERIOD and Gallery was willing to stay for a price (albeit high), than both sides can claim they turned down the other.
Gallery turned down the 2.5 and Raiders turned down the 8, therefore all they could do is part ways without an agreement.
Neither side “wins”. It is as Gallery stated.
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:27 pm
C’mon Wheezy!!!
Better hope we draft someone great especially if Aso goes…
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“We’re breaking down the Raiders one position, one player at a time”
The Cornerbacks
http://www.raidernationstation.com/hot_read_all_the_latest_on_the_oakland_raiders
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
212. The players are the ones we need to back. The owners are being impossibly greedy and shifty.
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:35 pm
# GoodOle00 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
212. The players are the ones we need to back. The owners are being impossibly greedy and shifty.
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Not like us backing either makes a difference.
Both sides make ridiculous amounts of money, while charging far too much to us fans.
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:38 pm
215.GoodOle00 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:28 pm
212. The players are the ones we need to back. The owners are being impossibly greedy and shifty.
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Except for Al. He is throwing his money around like holloween candy, and he even still has it in the bank. Shifty maybe maybe, but greedy, no. He is the very wealthy Uncle we all wish we had.
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:53 pm
So I guess that means we won’t be seeing Gallery cruise
up and down Crow Canyon Rd. in his ‘54 Coupe DeVille ??
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:57 pm
A lot of people complained about the signings of other players, but this is clearly an example of Al using logic. We didn’t need Gallery when it became apparent he cannot play LT. He’s a guard. Think about how many sacks were made while he was tryna “find himself” or “resurrect his career.”
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Noody’s talking about the DC position anymore.
Are we just gonna go without one and not worry about it?
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I like the way Al is taking care of business, and signing the players he needs.
Everybody keeps talking about the issue is players vs owners, but I have heard several times that the main issue is that Big $ revenue Teams( Dallas, Washington, New England) are against the smaller $ teams: Oakland, Bills,…etc.
Al davis is not going to sit back and let the Big $ owners shut down the league to get a deal that favors them… he is pushing forward with doing business so that he can be competitive.
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:16 pm
Thank god Gallery is gone. That dude and nnamdi are mainstays in loser land. Shake the spot. Gallery is a fringe player who cant play inside in a power scheme
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
pro football would be over if revenue sharing is done away with…
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Guy Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 6:18 pm
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2011swisniewski.php
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I read that to mean pass on Wiz 2.0 unless it’s in the 6th or 7th round. Even then, one has to seriously consider other options. When someone this young has NO upside and is categorized as not very strong or powerful and lacks initial punch, I really do see him fitting in with our O-line no matter what his last name is.
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:47 pm
“don’t”
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Al has never let big owners dictate the way he does business. This CBA thing has really stirred the old man up. He is taking advantages of the choas of the CBA. This is what Al knows best. Chaos. Al is proving he is back and he is the trend setter, the example of how he will do his business.
When all is said and done, Al will come out of this smellin like a rose. He knows what he’s doing.
It took him a while to get over Grudens spanking of the team in the super bowl, but he is beyond that now. Look for more big signings and players are going to want to play for Oakland. Would we have been in the playoffs if Seabass makes that fg, JC doesn’t wet the bed against the Niners, and BG doesn’t suck vs Miami? Al knew we should have won the division.
And we don’t even know what he’s doing behind the scenes.
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Veldheer – Loper/Ijalana – Kirkpatrick/Satele – Campbell – Ijalana/Kaczur
Or maybe Cannon instead of Ijalana if Ijalana has already been taken?
The Raiders have plenty of work cut out for them on the offensive line.
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:53 pm
i just heard tom cable is not the head coach anymore. can somebody tell me what happened. i heard jamarcus russell was being moved to left tackle.
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:01 pm
223.olinesux Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 8:34 pm
pro football would be over if revenue sharing is done away with…
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Makes you wonder why Al is spending so much. Maybe he knows something we don’t. He probably is spending like that because he knows they will do away with revenue sharing. But that would sink half the league. Al is just giving them the bird.
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Al Davis is the Defensive Coordinator/Owner/General Manager. I thought you knew?
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:12 pm
230.KoolKell Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Al Davis is the Defensive Coordinator/Owner/General Manager. I thought you knew?
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He’s also the hirer and firer of coaches.
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Anyone see this article?
I knew it wouldn’t take long.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/JaMarcus-Russell-is-on-the-verge-of-losing-his-m?urn=nfl-329411
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Russell doesn’t play in Oakland anymore, he bought that house in 07′. Prices have gone down since then. I’m sure he’s upside down, and he’s walking away.
He don’t need a credit report. Lot’s of people are doing it.
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Anyone know what happened with Ware? We’re probably going to need this 7th rounder to play next year especially if someone gets hurt like Johnson or Nnamdi did.
Looking at McFadden to play full time at Nickle at least.
March 3rd, 2011 at 10:00 pm
232. Russell who?
March 3rd, 2011 at 10:32 pm
# djohnnyg Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Gallery leaving IS a mutual decision and Gallery is correct in saying it that way.
Raiders admitted they were willing to pay 2.5 mill. and Gallery wanted 8 mill.
If the Raiders were WILLING to offer him a contract PERIOD and Gallery was willing to stay for a price (albeit high), than both sides can claim they turned down the other.
Gallery turned down the 2.5 and Raiders turned down the 8, therefore all they could do is part ways without an agreement.
Neither side “wins”. It is as Gallery stated.
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Yeah, but then Gallery will take 5 million a year to play someplace else?
Great negotiating by the Raiders and Gallery. Sheesh!
March 3rd, 2011 at 10:50 pm
Al Davis is doing what is best for the Raiders. He let Gallery walk because that is what Al wanted. Do not question the big man at the helm. It won’t do you any good. Besides, if Al wanted to keep Gallery he would have. He let DeAngelo go, he let Marcus go, he let Russell go, he let Cable go, so why shouldn’t he let Gallery go.
March 3rd, 2011 at 10:56 pm
233.KoolKell Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:50 pm
Russell doesn’t play in Oakland anymore, he bought that house in 07′. Prices have gone down since then. I’m sure he’s upside down, and he’s walking away.
He don’t need a credit report. Lot’s of people are doing it.
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So your saying if your house is under water and your behind on your mortgage, and prices have gone down, you don’t need a credit report? That must be a good thing. Have you toured the house for when it goes on the auction block? Did he really have a home theatre that seated 400 with and a lounge/bar room with a pole?
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:38 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 9:06 pm
Al Davis is the Defensive Coordinator/Owner/General Manager. I thought you knew?
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Has someone told Al this yet?
March 4th, 2011 at 12:51 am
Ijalana is more of a project, since he was not able to either play in the Senior Bowl or participate in the combine, he should not be drafted by the Raiders with our 2nd round pick
March 4th, 2011 at 12:53 am
Should Cannon, Wisniewski, Hudson, or Paea not be available @48, then that means either one of the other O-Linemen fell or one of the top 3 QBs (not named Gabbert fell), i.e., Newton or Locker;
I would not have a problem drafting either of those, as it would take a couple of years to develop eithe of them anyway.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:23 am
Find another o line sleeper like Veldheer please
March 4th, 2011 at 1:28 am
HairyBush Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 7:08 pm
Whose side are you on in the NFL labor dispute?
20% The owners
19% The players
61% Nobody’s side: Just get a deal done
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The latter is for the owners. It’s the owners pushing the lockout. Therefore, to say, “get a deal done”, you have to be speaking to the players. It’s the owners wanting to “get a deal done”.
So, it’s really 81% owners and their brainwashed, retarded American football fans, and 19% players. Sounds about right, when you look around this country. fat, lazy, uneducated, alcoholic, borderline illiterate sports fans.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:56 am
7.HayesDaze37 Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 11:03 am
It’s still a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Man…I hate reading that…especially since I just wrote this:
Some people talk about Gallery like he’s some kind of wimp, or as if he isn’t physical enough. Any talk of the sort is nonsense. Gallery has become one of the most versatile Guards in the NFL…and he’s plenty physical enough for whatever blocking scheme thrown his way, especially so with mixing-up schemes.
It’s time to throw away memories of his days at Tackle, and realize just how hard it is to find a quality Guard in this here League. We’ve got one of the better ones at the position…and if he’s relatively affordable, there’s simply no reason to let Gallery go.
Also…with the emergence of Veldheeer, we’ve got one of the better left sides in the League, they work well together. If the right side was as solid (Campbell?), we could aim directly at adding a young Center to the bunch, and just get stronger.
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Seems to me that you said it very well.
Gallery and Veldheer were working well on the left side and Gallery was good for Veldheer.
Gallery is leaving for two reasons:
1. Al fired the HC because he only wen’t 8-8 and we have to start all over again. Gallery questioned the move.
2. Al is extremely petty and took it out on Gallery for supporting Cable and even worse questioning the moves of the greatest football mind in history-Al Davis.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:59 am
Isn’t it great to lose your starting left guard?!
Well done Al!
March 4th, 2011 at 2:01 am
3.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 3rd, 2011 at 1:26 pm
He was asking for $8 million a year, and we were willing to pay him in the $2.5 million range,”
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As opposed to Stanford Routt who was asking for the $6 million range but we were willing to pay him $10 per year
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The lunatics are indeed running the asylum.
March 4th, 2011 at 3:05 am
According cbssportsline.com- latebreaking news probable 7 day extension for CBA negotiations
March 4th, 2011 at 3:08 am
keep at 16 games
reduce 2 exhibition games or at least one, teams could alternate extra home game every other year or continue to play and increase games at nuetral sites
increase owners upfront from 1 to 1.3 billion
keep percentages the same
implement rookie salary cap use money not for owners or current players, but rather old school, health benefits, increased retirement pensions
March 4th, 2011 at 3:09 am
those are my proposls above
March 4th, 2011 at 4:20 am
sign Mike Sims-Walker & Jamal Williams in free agency, then draft Stefan Wisniewski in RD2 …
PLAYOFFS!
March 4th, 2011 at 4:25 am
the Raiders MUST find a way to retain Michael Bush, Marcel Reece & Zach Miller on offense.
I fully expect Asomugha & Huff to walk and that’s ok
Routt-Mitchell-Branch-CJ37 with McFadden, Brown, Eugene & Ware for depth is good enough imo
gotta find a way to stuff the run and with the front seven all being the same guys from last year, we just have to play better. Hopefully Chuck B & Biekert will make this a more consistant & disciplined unit
March 4th, 2011 at 4:31 am
if Carlisle is on his way out and Gallery was only offered $2.5 million per season, I think that shows you exactly what Al Davis thought of Cable’s OL. Those grunt guards were his absolute favorites and they could very well rejoin him in Seattle
4 new O-Line starters = Veldheer, Loper, Wiz (rookie), Campbell, Barnes
Print That!
March 4th, 2011 at 5:44 am
mornin’ nation,
well the deadline is today to get a deal done or lockout!! both sides have dug in their heels.. both sides have much to lose, what about us fans?? is it a great day to be a raiders fan??
i know when baseball locked out the players i lost about fifty percent of my interest..
March 4th, 2011 at 5:54 am
why are some on here on the raiders for letting gallery go? he wants 8 million, the raiders want to pay a lg 2.5 million. what’s wrong with that?? he made almost 6 million last year.. way too much for his amount of production..gallery is serviceable not elite. this past season loper filled in when gallery went down and veldheer and the left side were fine..
March 4th, 2011 at 5:55 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Gallery’s is definitely NOT worth $8 Million a year! I mean Routt is NOT worth $10 Million but…come on now!
I think Huffy stays…not sure about Asomugha, but I think #24 stays!
March 4th, 2011 at 5:56 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 4:20 am
sign Mike Sims-Walker & Jamal Williams in free agency, then draft Stefan Wisniewski in RD2 …
PLAYOFFS!
Hmmm…the only news that kinda pi&&ed me off yesterday was SD’s signing of Bob Sanders! But oh well…
March 4th, 2011 at 5:57 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.R8RWILL,ROCKSTAR U WILD MAN,HOW R THINGS WITH U ?
March 4th, 2011 at 5:57 am
They negotiated an extension. They actually have made some progress, I guess the gap right now is about $25 million per team. That is almost $1 billion in total revenue, but the gap was considerably larger, and the fact that they negotiated an extension shows that there is some progress being made. I truly do feel confident that a deal will be ironed out by the draft.
Sad thing is, the league year is over. There is no more player news until a deal is done. Which means the only news IS the cba…
March 4th, 2011 at 6:02 am
Hmmm…the only news that kinda pi&&ed me off yesterday was SD’s signing of Bob Sanders! But oh well…
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If Bob Sanders stays healthy for the whole year, he has a legit shot at being defensive player of the year! I am not at all happy about the Dischargers signing him.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:08 am
No news and only news is CBA? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
March 4th, 2011 at 6:23 am
good morning hwnrdr and dirt lot and 24 and RR, thought for a minute i was the only one awake..lol
this is the worst time of year for football fans.. ant the only thing to focus on is the cba,,,yuck/…
so now that the decision has been made about gallery, we think loper can carry his load and campbell should be ready on the other side, why so much doom and gloom??honestly, i thought satlele was adequate at center once his calfinjury healed, he played well late in the season. walker is not the answer at rt but he played there last year and there is no reason he can’t do so again until a long term replacement can be found. so why the angst about our line??
March 4th, 2011 at 6:23 am
Bob Sanders seems like the type of player Al would sign. Older star who still has a few yrs. left ala Rod Woodson, Romanowski, or Jerry Rice.
They have Vincent Jackson and Sanders and we have DHB and Routt.
On paper that doesn’t look good.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:27 am
I hope the Raiders have someone at the office who is looking out for these opportunities (like Sanders) etc. and is aware of what’s going on with players and their availabilty.
Is Al solely responsible for doing that? Is Al the one who works the connections and all that?
I know Al has ‘people’ but if he’s the GM that’s stuff that a GM does.
I don’t want Al waking up and reading the paper and saying ” San Diego picked up Sanders? I would’ve gone after him if i’d known he was out there”.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:29 am
why the angst about our line??
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Because they cant pass block. But personally I dont care that Gallery left. Knew he was gone with Cable. Our Oline needs a makeover, it is a liability.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:31 am
Yeah, my heart is NOT broken with Big Rob leaving!
March 4th, 2011 at 6:32 am
I MUST BE GETTING OLD.I DO NOE BEGRUDGE ANYONE A GOOD LIVING.TAKE WHAT U CAN GET.BUT WHEN A GROUP OF GROWN MEN CAN NOT DECIDE HOW 2 SPLIT UP BILLION’S,YES BILLION’S OF $$…PALEEEEEESE..
March 4th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Dakota and others are right.
No reason to disrespect Gallery like that, it’s a freaking shame for Herrera to come out and say that crap.
In case anyone wonders just where this John Herrera guy comes from…
Herrera’s father owned car dealerships and Al Davis went into business with him many years ago, so John Herrera became a Raiders ball boy as a kid, then a scout for a while before turning into whatever he is now, long history there, which is why Al seemingly loves the guy.
I think he’s a moron and should not be allowed to speak for the Raiders…..I wonder what happened to that other Brown guy who used to handle P.R. for the Raiders?.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:35 am
Sorry, it wasn’t a guy named Brown, it was Mike Taylor who used to be the Raiders P. R. man.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:36 am
At least let Amy Trask do the talking, I’m sure she’s smarter than Herrera.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:38 am
THE JANITOR IS SMARTER THAN HERRERA..
March 4th, 2011 at 6:38 am
Gallery can be replaced, I’m ok with the move but he handled in a great way, he deserved better.
Good luck to Robert Gallery.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:39 am
Only 17 weeks left before the first pre-season game.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:40 am
Too bad Gallery’s gone. He was a good guard but no way we could keep paying him LT money. Didn’t like the Raiders slagging him though. No need for that. They’re the ones who drafted him. They better find a solid replacement and Campbell will have to step up on the other side.
Re-signing Miller is a must.
Have a great weekend Nation!!!
March 4th, 2011 at 6:43 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 6:32 am
I MUST BE GETTING OLD.I DO NOE BEGRUDGE ANYONE A GOOD LIVING.TAKE WHAT U CAN GET.BUT WHEN A GROUP OF GROWN MEN CAN NOT DECIDE HOW 2 SPLIT UP BILLION’S,YES BILLION’S OF $$…PALEEEEEESE..
I feel ya Dirt Lot!
Bob Marley Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 6:32 am
Dakota and others are right.
No reason to disrespect Gallery like that, it’s a freaking shame for Herrera to come out and say that crap.
I think he’s a moron and should not be allowed to speak for the Raiders…..I wonder what happened to that other Brown guy who used to handle P.R. for the Raiders?.
yes I agree…at least (like Cable) Gallery thanked the Raiders for his start in the NFL! We all knew it wasa contract issue (or maybe a ploy so he could rejoin Cable in Seattle), but yeah, Herrara did NOT need to state that!
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 6:38 am
THE JANITOR IS SMARTER THAN HERRERA..
LMAO! But you know, you just maybe right!
March 4th, 2011 at 6:48 am
what was wrong with the way the raiders handled the gallery deal? what was disrespectful about saying we didn’t want to pay 8 million
March 4th, 2011 at 6:54 am
do you think seattle will pay gallery eight million or any other team will?? do you think gallery is in the elite at left guard? because that is elite money…
March 4th, 2011 at 6:55 am
The way Herrera conducts himself in the media is just plain unprofessional.
He is a poster child for why the Raiders are perceived negatively in the sports world.
Gallery says all the right things when leaving, talking about the ‘Silver and Black’ and how he enjoyed his time in Oakland etc. etc. and for no reason whatsoever Herrera blasts him like that.
Is there ever such a thing as parting as friends with the Raiders?
Cable was a coach who AL HIRED, and Gallery a player AL DRAFTED.
It’s a good thing being a Raider fan is so entrenched in my being or I would have a hard time embracing them if I had to choose who to root for.
It’s not cool, it’s not ‘badass’, it’s just mean and vindictive and childish. Not to mention embarrassing what they do to former players and coaches.
For once they need to show some class for cripes sake.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:58 am
Yes Yes Yes, No More T-Rex,No more Fargas, No more Cable, No Russell . GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take you’re little arms and go suck elsewhere you fake tough guy . Just as bad as the Russell pick , Nobody drafts an overated G that high.
March 4th, 2011 at 6:59 am
Exactly and they should have said that “we thank Robert for his services over the years and wish him well” instead of…no it was a contract issue!
And no…there is nothing wrong with telling him that he is not worth $8 million…we all know he’s not! But it was the way it was blasted in the media!
March 4th, 2011 at 7:01 am
Herrera was a GM for the Saskatchewan Roughriders in the late 70’s.
Other than that slight bit of football pedigree, he is what KoolKell would call an “Al Davis boot-licker”.
Not sure what happened to Mike Taylor, I just remember he was the guy Jamarcus also deferred too when he was grilled and didn’t know if he should tell the truth or not.
March 4th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Gallery did all kinds of community and local charity stuff.
Spending his OWN time and energy, all the while generating some positive PR for the Raider organization.
And what does he get? Herrera trying to distance the Raiders immediately from anything and everything Bob Gallery, without the slightest bit of class that Gallery always showed the Raiders (renegotiated his contract twice).
Irks me to no end, but whether we win the division or not, will not depend on how Al and Herrera treat former employees. But it just seems like a colossal waste of time, energy and resources.
March 4th, 2011 at 7:13 am
It’s ludacris at times but hey…that’s how they roll! Not me…
March 4th, 2011 at 7:15 am
Good Morning Raider Nation!! TGIF!
JaMarcus Russell faces foreclosure on house
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 4, 2011, 8:37 AM EST
Former Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell needs to sell more sizzurp.
His $2.4 million mansion in the Bay Area is facing foreclosure, according to TMZ. He owes $195,512.05 in mortgage payments in the next three months or there will be an auction to sell the property.
If Russell doesn’t pay up, that parcel of NFL history could be all yours.
Purple Drank not included.
March 4th, 2011 at 7:16 am
I liked Gallery, seemed like a cool dude, good with the fans. I’m glad he rebounded a little from bust status and I’m sure he’ll do well else where.
But at the end of the day, can you really say anything better about the guy than that he was a middling to very good guard who was injury prone? Is that level of play really going to be so hard to replace?
With the Raider’s long list of FAs, it’s unrealistic to expect that all of them will be resigned. The FAs you make sure you lock up are the ones who excel, like say, a Pro Bowl DT or your sacks leader. The FAs you might let go are the underachievers, and that’s exactly what happened.
March 4th, 2011 at 7:17 am
Geez…$32 million GUARANTEED and he still faces foreclosure??????????
March 4th, 2011 at 7:20 am
The Jaguars informed free agent Mike Sims-Walker that they are moving on without him in 2011.
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Go get’em Al!!
March 4th, 2011 at 7:21 am
Geez…$32 million GUARANTEED and he still faces foreclosure??????????
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$39 million
March 4th, 2011 at 7:24 am
281.Just Fire Baby Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 7:04 am
Gallery did all kinds of community and local charity stuff.
Spending his OWN time and energy, all the while generating some positive PR for the Raider organization.
And what does he get? Herrera trying to distance the Raiders immediately from anything and everything Bob Gallery, without the slightest bit of class that Gallery always showed the Raiders (renegotiated his contract twice).
Irks me to no end, but whether we win the division or not, will not depend on how Al and Herrera treat former employees. But it just seems like a colossal waste of time, energy and resources.
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Yes, and if you wanna hate the guy in private go ahead but at least have the smarts to think about how things are perceived in the media and by other players or the fans that liked him as a Raider.
It seems everytime a Raider executive speaks it makes me cringe.
I would tell Al that hey, they made you a hall of famer. Start acting like one and get rid of this paranoid, self hating Herrera guy while you’re at it.
March 4th, 2011 at 7:25 am
G’mornin fellas.
Best of luck to Robert gallery. Guy was a class act til the end. I hope he resurfaces in Seattle w/ Cable and has a successful conclusion to his career.
I’m glad he was able to find a niche and be a successful guard in the NFL. Shake his bust label.
That guy was supposed to be a sure thing coming out of college. His (and Groves) selections were roundly praised by all the “experts” at the time.
Bob was the hot commodity that year. Plug him in and watch him go to pro bowls for the next decade. I remember reading how the Browns were desperately trying to trade up from seven to nab him. The Giants at four were coveting him as well.
Gallery could well be another player whose development was stunted due to being drafted into a dysfunctional situation. Never able ot grow through rookie growing pains. Constantly shifted pos. year after year.
Bed and breakfast offense and constant coaching turnover and turmoil. It’s a shame.
The only knock I have on him is he just couldn’t stay healthy. Not fair to fault him for that. The guy hurried back from back surgery.
Total team plyer and class guy. Played wherever they needed him. Re-did his deal to help out salary cap several times. Volunteered in the community.
Hererra and some “fans” wanna kick him on the way out the door. Shameless.
Good lu
March 4th, 2011 at 7:25 am
If Al fired Herrera and hired a real PR guy it would do a LOT for our image.
March 4th, 2011 at 7:31 am
SIGN MIKE SIMS-WALKER
March 4th, 2011 at 7:37 am
maybe i missed something.. the media posted the line about gallery wanting eight million, herrera said we were willing to pay two point five, too big a difference to negotiate.. and that is what is disrespectful??
March 4th, 2011 at 7:43 am
i like what gallery does in the community, no doubt he is a class guy..but he gets paid for what he does on the field!! and frankly he isn’t worth eight mil, in fact he has been overpaid since he got off the bus..he is not going to get any better, no upside.. so why is it disrespectful to say he isn’t worth eightmillion.. we offered him a contract to come back, everyone on here would take a two and a half million contract and quit their job today…
March 4th, 2011 at 7:44 am
So did the deadline pass without the Raiders using any RFA tenders, then? I saw other teams using them left and right to protect their backsides.
So, the Raiders could possibly lose ZMiller, Bush, Huff, Satele and Reece without compensation, or the right to match. Why?
I don’t get it.
March 4th, 2011 at 7:59 am
buckeyeraider Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 7:44 am
So did the deadline pass without the Raiders using any RFA tenders, then? I saw other teams using them left and right to protect their backsides.
So, the Raiders could possibly lose ZMiller, Bush, Huff, Satele and Reece without compensation, or the right to match. Why?
I don’t get it.
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Not true. When a CBA is passed teams will have the opportunity to tend RFA’s based on the new CBA rules. Nothing to be concerned about there.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Hey is it true that if there is a lockout til June, that all FA’s have to sign a one year deal with their current team?
March 4th, 2011 at 8:13 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Hey is it true that if there is a lockout til June, that all FA’s have to sign a one year deal with their current team?
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I havent seen that. I DID see something that FA would be canceled if the lockout extended into the regular season though. Not totally certain of how that will work.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Bcz,
I hope so. I don’t know what terms might be negotiated into the new CBA. I don’t think anybody knows if these tenders will even be valid. Or what year FA kicks in, etc.
I guess that will all have to be negotiated. It just seems like there was a flurry of activity right there at the end with players like Sydney Rice getting tendered. I saw where some teams used like three or four of them, just in case.
Just not the Raiders, as far I as could tell. They were busy handing out cash in contract extensions for sure, just no RFA tenders.
I hope it all works out. I just wanna see most of those guys back in Silver&Black next year, and beyond.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:26 am
Bcz24 Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 8:13 am
hwnrdr Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 8:01 am
Hey is it true that if there is a lockout til June, that all FA’s have to sign a one year deal with their current team?
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I havent seen that. I DID see something that FA would be canceled if the lockout extended into the regular season though. Not totally certain of how that will work.
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So I guess that means I get to wear my #21 jersey?
What about teams that signed FA’s already?
Like the Dolts?
March 4th, 2011 at 8:29 am
And us…they are locked in no matter what the CBA brings, I guess!
March 4th, 2011 at 8:35 am
NFL.com story the top 6 Raider draft busts. Galley is number 5, Russell is number 1.
Like Dakota said the Raiders handled it wrong, but Gallery made it sound as if Davis didn’t want to resign him. Dude missed 14 games in two years…
http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/03/03/pick-six-raiders-all-time-draft-busts/?module=HP_spotlight
March 4th, 2011 at 8:35 am
Gallery played descent his past few years, but honestly who is going to pay $8m a year for a guard with a bad back. Really??
March 4th, 2011 at 8:37 am
Ray and Hwr,
I’m pretty sure any FA deals that got done before the CBA expired are valid going forth. Whether it’s Re-signing your own like Oak did with Seymour or veteran Fa’s from other teams like Bob Sanders w/ SD and Shaun Rogers with the Saints.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:37 am
kinda new to the blog (been reading forever but never comment) but with offseason starting (hopefully) i can’t help but banter with fellow raider fans. here’s my take:
1) Gallery is very, very replaceable
2) The Routte/Wimbley signings was the right choice. (who cares how much they are getting paid…no signing bonus equals less impact on cap)
3) I love Nnamdi as a player, but I’m not sure that part of our defensive woes are not because of him. Hear me out
A large percentage of turnovers via INTs come from QBs throwing to their no.1 WR. When Nnamdi is on the field it is almost a benefit to the opposing QB who can make up his mind to not throw at the WR he is covering. Making it easier for a QB to coordinate hot routes during blitzes (on the other side duh) and essentially cut the field in half for the QB when he is in the pocket. (which we all know is easier to find an open WR than having to scan the whole field case in point Jamarcus Russell). we need better play out of the safeties in coverage and I think out current DBs and maybe another addition can handle the job and along with Rod Woodson will increase our turnovers in the defensive backfield. Also it’s easy to run on the raiders BECAUSE it’s hard to pass on us. we need more balance in my opinion. sorry Nnamdi and good luck with another team.
4)Bush is replaceable (easily)
5)please, please sign santana moss and AT LEAST move DHB to the other side of the field if not alternate him in (i would say bench him, but we all know that won’t happen)
6) oh ya and Zach Miller is NOT replaceable. sign him quickly along with desmond bryant.
sorry it’s a long read but I have been stewing on these issues for awhile with no outlet till now.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:39 am
Nnamdi doesn’t currently have a deal so he’s in limbo like alot of other FA’s, I guess. Until a new CBA is reached.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:41 am
I see Jerramy Stevens got arrested again.
Real class act that guy was.
Got in a fight with a guy half his age in high school, only Jerramy thought he still needed to bring a bat to the fight, and put the kid in a coma for a few months.
No big deal, got a full-ride to UW. Than was a person of interest in a few rape cases, but got it swept under the mattress.
No big deal, still was a 1st round pick. Multiple DUI’s and arrests later he still almost logged a ten year career.
STuff like this, makes you want to pull for the owners in this CBA stuff.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am
half his size, not age lol.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Vegas,
I don’t get your logic on that one. Why pull for the owners? The guy is a P.O.S. obviously.
But why paint ALL players with that broad of a brush.
Besides, it’s the owners who sign off on bringing him into their franchises. All they’d have to say is I don’t want this thug to be any part of my organization.
But, apparently they think they can get enough out of his athletic ability…that public relations or even civic responsibility, be damned.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am
I look at it like the owners gave this guy multiple chances, and he pissed on every city, fan and organization he went to.
March 4th, 2011 at 8:59 am
Morning peoples!
Wassup Jerry? You usually do a good job of keeping up w/ things, but really? What the hell did you do in Indi, besides eat free meals? Can I have some combine info please?
March 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Jeremy Stevens-Remember when Tyler Brayton kneed him in the testies? Still brings a smile to my face.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:07 am
I’m all for second chances and all, but if this guy is a career criminal who beats people with baseball bats, potentially rapes women and is a multiple DUI offender…then he should be considered a threat to those around him.
If he was too hot to handle..then he’d be lucky to be pumping gas two months from now. Look at JaMarcus..his only sin was being fat and lazy.
But, obviously the owners think they can exploit this guys talent. So they keep signing him. Nobody held a gun to their head.
I don’t feel sorry for them, and it surely wouldn’t sway me to their side of a labor dispute. The greedy bastards.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:08 am
DutchRaider77 Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Jeremy Stevens-Remember when Tyler Brayton kneed him in the testies? Still brings a smile to my face.
That was the highlight of an oh so boring shut out in Seattle (after we beat the Steelers)
March 4th, 2011 at 9:14 am
I was reading on PFT that Gallery wanted 8 million a year and Big Al offered him 2.5 which is why he is free to go look for work elsewhere.
How can he be serious?
He may get 3 or maybe 4 but no way he gets anywhere near 8 on the open market he is a guard not a left tackle.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:18 am
An even funnier post on PFT is JaMarcus Russell is about to lose his Bay Area house over 195K
What a tard, why didn’t he pay for the house, why take out a loan with that kind of money he was making and who was advising this guy on his finances?
well at least he has a cool necklace collection to show off to his cough syrup sipping buddies.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:18 am
Tyler gave Jeremy a lil of what he deserved, didn’t he. lol. Probably the highlight of his Raider career.
I just read somewhere that he is likely to be a cap casualty in Carolina this year. Made 3 mil and didn’t record a single sack.
As a matter of fact, that was part of his self defense for his actions in Seattle. He said it was frustrations from the season all boiling over. He said he was a starting DE who hadn’t recorded a single sack all year.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:23 am
Citing a Raiders employee, the Oakland Tribune confirms that owner Al Davis wants OG Bruce Campbell in the starting lineup in 2011.
Davis fell in love with Campbell after an exceptional showing in the Combine last year. He remains high on Campbell after a rookie season spent learning the ropes at guard. Expect Campbell to take his lumps as a first-time starter, but he certainly has the talent to excel if motivated.
Source: Oakland Tribune
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Lets see what you got Bruce Bruce!
March 4th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Bye bye Gallery… BTW, Jesus is really the only guy who looks good with long hair.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Barry Simms, Robert Gallery, Matt Stinchcomb, the list goes on……
March 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Mike Sims-Walker not resigning with Jax… I say bring him in for a look see…
March 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
irjonny Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 8:37 am
2) The Routte/Wimbley signings was the right choice. (who cares how much they are getting paid…no signing bonus equals less impact on cap)
3) I love Nnamdi as a player, but I’m not sure that part of our defensive woes are not because of him. Hear me out
A large percentage of turnovers via INTs come from QBs throwing to their no.1 WR. When Nnamdi is on the field it is almost a benefit to the opposing QB who can make up his mind to not throw at the WR he is covering. Making it easier for a QB to coordinate hot routes during blitzes (on the other side duh) and essentially cut the field in half for the QB when he is in the pocket. (which we all know is easier to find an open WR than having to scan the whole field case in point Jamarcus Russell). we need better play out of the safeties in coverage and I think out current DBs and maybe another addition can handle the job and along with Rod Woodson will increase our turnovers in the defensive backfield. Also it’s easy to run on the raiders BECAUSE it’s hard to pass on us. we need more balance in my opinion. sorry Nnamdi and good luck with another team.
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IrJOhnny,
You would think that if the defense KNEW that the opponent was going to throw to one side of the field for most of the game that they could put a nice game plan together for that.
But no. The Raiders are better off having TWO crappy Cornerbacks to get dealt all game long instead of one!?!
Perhaps if Routt was a stud, they would have tried throwing Nnamdi’s way? But no. Routt was the easier choice to pick on.
God help the offense…..because the defense is gonna get scorched this year.
No run defense and the pass defense will be a problem
March 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
From NFL.com:
It seemed like an unfair question. Someone asked NFL.com analyst Gil Brandt during a live chat Monday afternoon what player at the NFL Scouting Combine might be the biggest steal of the later rounds in April’s draft.
Rather than sidestep the question, however, Brandt had a ready response: Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley State
“He opened a lot of eyes here,” Brandt said of Lockette, who ran a 4.37-second 40-yard dash — tied for the second-fastest at this year’s combine.
Brandt noted that Lockette’s 10-yard split also was very impressive, perhaps enough to overcome some inconsistency in catching the ball.
“Problem is that he’ll make a great catch and then drop one,” Brandt said. “But you can’t coach speed and explosion.”
Brandt went so far as to compare Lockette to another receiver who wasn’t highly regarded before opening some eyes at the combine: Austin Collie. now of the Colts. Collie, a fourth-round pick, might be considered a steal given what he has done in two NFL seasons.
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This kid is an Al Davis pick if I ever saw one… If it happens, I just hope it’s not before the 6th round.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:37 am
That Seattle game. What a pisser that was. Raiders layed another egg on MNF. That was the game that sealed it for me with regareds to Randy Moss.
He sat on that bench with his hood pulled over his head, disinterested. Pouting. He quit on his teammmates. I was disgusted.
That was a shame too, because Moss was one of those players in the league I always liked and thought would make a perfect Raider. The ultimate deep threat for Al’s vertical passing offense. Plus he had the lil edge of being a rebel and a hell-raiser. Mischievous. A perfect Raider.
A lot of people forget that Randy was ballin his first year in Oakland. Even played hard through injuries.
But that second year he wasn’t buying it. He bailed. Instead of trying to be a leader on that struggling offense with Andrew Walter taking a beating…he committed the ultimate sin in team sports, IMO. He quit.
I’ve disliked him ever since. Especially when he went to the friggin Patriots.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:38 am
O.J. Atogwe’s new five-year, $26 million contract with the Redskins includes roughly $12 million guaranteed.
For comparison, Antoine Bethea’s four-year deal signed last June contained $18 million in the first two years. Eric Berry got $34 million guaranteed as the No. 5 overall pick last April. Brian Dawkins received $7.2 million guaranteed as a 36-year-old, Earl Thomas $12.32 million guaranteed on his rookie deal, and Antrel Rolle $15 million in 2011 free agency. We’re not used to saying it, but it looks like the Skins did pretty well here.
Source: St. Louis Post-Dispatch
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Wouldn’t be mad at all if Huffy received the same kind of deal as Atogwe.
five-year, $26 million
March 4th, 2011 at 9:43 am
not worried about Bob Sanders, fellas.
DMAC was running over safeties left & right last year. lowering his shoulder and stiff arming dudes to the ground. Sanders is undersized and injury prone. He’s only played in 9 games of the last 3 seasons (9/48)
if the Raiders continue to be a physical run-first football team, somebody like little Bob is the least of our concerns!
However, there is no reason to believe that we’ll be able to continue what Tom Cable & Jim Michalczik had going under Wylie & Wiz with 4 new starters on the O-Line … Bush & Reece haven’t been resigned yet either
March 4th, 2011 at 9:44 am
we’ve already been over that one 666 old news– i’d actually say he played it the smart way though.. he payed $3 mil for it, financed it and prolly payed like 200k-300k to own if for what? 4 or 5 years years? chump change to him
and who needs credit when ur handed $30 mil in ur early 20s
March 4th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Yahoo’s Michael Silver reports enough progress was made Thursday that the NFL and the NFL Players Association “will almost certainly be headed for a settlement” if they can agree to a one- or two-week extension in CBA talks by the end of the day Friday.
If a deal is not reached, one source tells Silver “it will be Armageddon” with the union decertifying and filing a class-action, anti-trust suit against the owners. Commissioner Roger Goodell and labor chief DeMaurice Smith have emerged as voices of reason while factions from each side maintain a radical stance. The owners seem to have adopted a more conciliatory tone since Judge Doty’s decision that TV money won’t be available during a lockout. Owners are no longer insisting on $2 billion off the top, but will receive more than $1 billion in addition to an 18-game season and a rookie wage scale.
Source: Yahoo Sports
March 4th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Wouldn’t be mad at all if Huffy received the same kind of deal as Atogwe.
five-year, $26 million
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Do it Grandpa Davis!
March 4th, 2011 at 9:45 am
BBL gents!
March 4th, 2011 at 9:48 am
DMAC,
I hope they can get a deal done. Huff is really coming into his own. hell, he’s second team all pro, right.lol.
The guy is making plays. He’s starting to force turnovers. That play against SD. Sack, forced fumble that was returned for a TD…to seal a win against a rival they’d lost 12 straight to. That was big time.
Like I said before, I don’t want to see this guy making plays in the Cowboy or Texan secondary.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Rockstar– I was kinda worried about mr. bob sanders til I recalled how many safties DMAC put the hurt on this year.. When mr. sanders gets hurt this year, mcfadden will be responsible.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:49 am
Better re-sign Huff. It took him 4 years on the Raiders dime to learn this defense.
It WILL take another 5 years to just find someone…let alone develop into a competent safety in this Raider system.
Sign Asomugha and Miller at a minimum. GEt Huff if you can.
Ask Routt for some of that money back. They could have paid Miller and Huff with that money. Routt for $10 millin is a disgrace!
What a setback!
March 4th, 2011 at 9:50 am
Yeah, looks likes he starting to really understand how to play the deep safety position.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:51 am
Our defense is going to look like Houston’s unless the Raiders change the scheme up.
No boss corner so now the entire field is fair game….possibly no Huff so we have to experiement with a trail of losers before we find a suitable replacement.
Run defense was horrible last year and remains unchanged.
No defensive coordinator to speak of.
Let’s go OFFENSE!
March 4th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Huff is better than Routt.
Huff is going to demand at least as much.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Routt had one decent year…..you don’t reward that with $10 million after 5 years of nothing
March 4th, 2011 at 9:53 am
SnB,
post 324
I don’t know if Huff is any better than Atogwe.
Wouldn’t mind that same kind of deal.
March 4th, 2011 at 9:55 am
SnB Production Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 9:52 am
Huff is better than Routt.
Huff is going to demand at least as much.
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Huff doesnt play the same position as routt. No comparison.
Routt had one decent year as a starting CB, which was his ONLY year as a starting CB. Nnamdi was terrible at CB when he played the slot too…
March 4th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Just the man I was looking for.
Wassup Bcz
March 4th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I need a few stats on Terrance Newman.
Can you provide?
March 4th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Bruce Campbell is expected to start “somewhere on the offensive line” next season.
The most obvious spot is left guard as Robert Gallery’s replacement, though right guard (for Cooper Carlisle) and right tackle (for Langston Walker) are also possibilities. Campbell was essentially red-shirted as a developmental project last year. Owner Al Davis was said to be peeved at former coach Tom Cable for not giving Campbell an audition in the season finale.
Related: Langston Walker, Cooper Carlisle
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
March 4th, 2011 at 9:59 am
Bcz24,
Routt was in the slot because he couldn’t beat out CJ…deAngelo Hall was brought in because the Raiders weren’t happy with Routt.
If you are going to GROSSLY overpay a Cornerback…GRossly over pay the guy that’s done it before and gone to Pro-Bowls and is still young and not to the guy that did nothing but “ok” last year and underachieve ever other year he’s been here.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:00 am
DMAC Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 9:57 am
I need a few stats on Terrance Newman.
Can you provide?
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Good Lawd NO!
March 4th, 2011 at 10:01 am
DMAC Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 9:53 am
SnB,
post 324
I don’t know if Huff is any better than Atogwe.
Wouldn’t mind that same kind of deal
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We’ll see.
Still have to re-sign Miller, find a couple of vet o-lineman, and re-sign Reece.
I don’t think there will be any money left for Huff.
They are going to play the Ware kid
March 4th, 2011 at 10:02 am
Terrence Newman is being booted out of Dallas because he was getting scorched.
No thanks….what a shame.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:03 am
Ware might turn out to be good, but I’m not quite sure he’s ready yet. Maybe Rod will have are young corners looking like pro-bowlers. Who knows.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:04 am
SnB,
I just want to look at a few stats.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:04 am
Routt was anything but “ok” last year dude. I am not going to try and change your perception about that. DeAngelo Hall was NOT brought in because they were unhappy with Routt. He was brought in because he was considered on of the top CBs in the league, and the Raiders thought teaming him with Nnamdi would give them an edge because you wouldnt be able to ignore them. We learned the hard way that D Hall is a great zone guy, and freelances very well, but cant play man coverage. CJ37 played very well in relief, which earned him the starting position the following year. These moves stunted Routts growth imo. He proved he can get the job done last year. The honus is definitely on him to prove it wasnt a fluke.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:05 am
BcZ,
339
340
March 4th, 2011 at 10:10 am
DMAC… I cant get the burn rate numbers on Newman. I can only find those for the top 6 guys in the NFL (3 of whom are Raiders). Last season Newman had 79 tackles, 5 INTS and 9 passes defensed. They look like decent numbers for sure, but I dont really know how many penalties he had, TDs he gave up or what the completion percentage against him was.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:10 am
Call me skeptical until I see it.
THe Raiders last year gave up 30 passing TDS which was 3 or 4th in the league (worst).
The one guy that locked his side of the field down gave up ZERO of those.
So now we lose the guy who locked it down and forced the offense to go to the other side….for a 5th round pick from Auburn.
Replace Huff, who took 5 years to develop, for a 6th round 2nd year from Mich State.
All of that with the same front 7 that anchored the 28th best run defense in the NFL.
The offense is going to have to step it up big time….even if there are 4 new starters on the O-Line.
Who’s the DC?
March 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Remember though Dallas had big problems on defense last year. Guys were quitting. Newman certainly wouldnt be a bad guy to work out, I wouldnt give him much more than 1-3 mill though.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:12 am
The Raiders defensive coaches were so rigid in their approach that they couldn’t take advanatage of Nnamdi.
Well now they will two guys that opposing QBs will throw at…so let’s see how creative they can get.
Better turn Wimbley lose…I need him to get about 15 sacks next year for our pass defense to have a chance
March 4th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Bcz,
Thanks for the stats. But what happened to those insider stats that you usually provide?
March 4th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Bob sanders is a former defensive MVP and hits as hard as Dmac…. Sanders us injury prone but he is still a beast when healthy and is one he’ll of a football player who can change games… Somebody called him lil bob, but there ain’t nothing little about this dude…. He is all muscle… He will upgrade that defense with his run support and his superb instincts in coverage…. And if u think Huff is good, this guy is light years ahead of huff…. I would love to see Dmac stiff arm him and sit him down, but Sanders is a different breed of human…. Very very tough….. He is fast too….. But not as fast as our receivers…. Welcome to the AFC west Bob, where the Raiders owned everybody in this division….
March 4th, 2011 at 10:18 am
Bob will probably make the Chargers D better for about 3 games, until he’s out for the season w/ a broken collar bone or something.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:25 am
320.Kevin Flynn Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 9:36 am
Mike Sims-Walker not resigning with Jax… I say bring him in for a look see…
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Agreed. I think Sims-Walker would be a good pickup for the Raiders.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:26 am
If Nnamdi leaves, the signing Huff and keeping him around is critical.
He is coming into his own and showed he has developed nicely when used properly.
Last year was a breakout year for him. He made plays!
March 4th, 2011 at 10:31 am
So by letting Nnamdi walk and getting NOTHING in return (stupid) I wonder who these alleged three players that the old man Al said he could pick up ahead of keeping Nnamdi for big money are going to be??
What’s the plan old man Al once Nnamdi leaves??
Enlighten us!
March 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
DMAC Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 10:13 am
Bcz,
Thanks for the stats. But what happened to those insider stats that you usually provide?
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Those burn rate stats were provided by Stats INC to the media for only the top 6 CBs in the NFL. I dont have access to them for the whole league. I dont even know how to get stats directly from StatsInc… but I would die to be able to.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:35 am
Ok
Fa’sho
March 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
252.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 4:31 am
if Carlisle is on his way out and Gallery was only offered $2.5 million per season, I think that shows you exactly what Al Davis thought of Cable’s OL. Those grunt guards were his absolute favorites and they could very well rejoin him in Seattle
4 new O-Line starters = Veldheer, Loper, Wiz (rookie), Campbell, Barnes
Print That!
I could see that. Even though I would rather see them keep Satele and draft Cannon ahead of Wiz, IF Cannon is still there.
If Wiz is drafted by the Raiders….he should play Center and not Guard.
My worry, is handing the starting RG spot to Campbell. That kid better be ready, cause I could see him being being a penalty machine.
At least Carlisle was rarely penalized.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:48 am
252.RaiderRockstar Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 4:31 am
if Carlisle is on his way out and Gallery was only offered $2.5 million per season, I think that shows you exactly what Al Davis thought of Cable’s OL. Those grunt guards were his absolute favorites and they could very well rejoin him in Seattle
4 new O-Line starters = Veldheer, Loper, Wiz (rookie), Campbell, Barnes
Print That!
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I could see something like that. Even though I would rather see them keep Satele and draft Cannon ahead of Wiz, IF Cannon is still there.
If Wiz is drafted by the Raiders….he should play Center and not Guard.
My worry, is handing the starting RG spot to Campbell. That kid better be ready, cause I could see him being being a penalty machine.
At least Carlisle was rarely penalized.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:50 am
My worry, is handing the starting RG spot to Campbell. That kid better be ready, cause I could see him being being a penalty machine.
At least Carlisle was rarely penalized
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I 2nd that.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:52 am
If Al is going to make any trades or big FA signings, it’ll have to be after the CBA. For now, Al brought back the guys from last year he knows he wants. The rest of the guys (mainly all the free agent offensive linemen) Al probably thinks he can replace.
He’s likely banking on Miller and Bush (plus Bryant and Reece) being RFAs. But there’s no point in extending them a tender until the rules for restricted free agency are in place. Why let the player know exactly how valuable they are to you/your team before before you even need to work out a long-term deal with them?
The nice thing about having so many free agents is that it gives you a chance to dump a lot of salary. It’s unfortunate, though, that $45 million of that salary came back in the form of just three defensive players.
March 4th, 2011 at 10:55 am
Wiz is absolutely better suited to center than guard.
Wiz in the 2nd, Moffitt or Kirkpatrick in the 3rd, and Nick Kaczur or Jammal Brown in free agency would help plug some holes.
But even if it works out like that, the Raiders still should re-sign Loper, Satele, and Barnes. Maybe Henderson, too. Otherwise we’re once again looking at a scenario where a few positions along the offensive line have no apparent back-ups. Not even enough warm bodies in the event that multiple injuries happen.
One way or another, o-line is going to need to be a focus of both the draft and free agency for the Raiders.
March 4th, 2011 at 11:00 am
SI’s Jim Trotter reports that CBA discussions have been extended seven days, not the originally reported ten.
It’s hard to imagine there being a big difference. Optimism remains that the sides can strike an agreement within two weeks at the latest, and another extension is always a possibility if no deal is finalized in that seven-day window. To reiterate, no roster moves can be made during the extension. Free agency could occur before the April’s draft if a CBA is done this month.
Source: Jim Trotter on Twitter
March 4th, 2011 at 11:01 am
7 day extension confirmed for cba.
We should see a deal done by this time next week.
March 4th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Jerry we need more news…
March 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Is Wiz really a viable starting rookie or are we overrating him because of his relation to Steve Wisniewski
March 4th, 2011 at 11:34 am
hahaha…another quality day in the life of JaBustus Russell…
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/JaMarcus-Russell-is-on-the-verge-of-losing-his-m?urn=nfl-329411
March 4th, 2011 at 11:35 am
ItzSteve,
JaBust is as much the fault of the circus atmosphere that Al Davis runs as it is with JaBust slothful behavior
March 4th, 2011 at 11:39 am
# CMon Man Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 11:35 am
ItzSteve,
JaBust is as much the fault of the circus atmosphere that Al Davis runs as it is with JaBust slothful behavior
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You can’t blame Al for JR’s short comings. Al was as big a supporter of JR you could find. So much so that it set the Raiders back for years because of it. JR has no one to blame but himself. He has been on a downward spiral since his release.
March 4th, 2011 at 11:40 am
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?!
Ahhh, the Labor Relations clouds are clearing a bit…what a shock. Not.
Players hold ALL the cards, and the Owners NEED to settle with a new CBA…one that undoes the damage done by the underhanded deal the Owners made with the networks.
Whatever monies the Owners gave away (while allegedly bargaining with the Union in good faith) — monies that otherwise would’ve been shared according to the “current” CBA — needs to be addressed, if it was paid out. If they don’t reach an agreement, among the lawsuits by the Players will be one to go for that money (plus big damages).
If the Owners can’t get paid TV money while not putting a product on the field…there ABSOLUTELY WILL BE NFL FOOTBALL this year. There are a lot of investors out there, holding the bag for a number of shiny new palace stadia like JJ’s in Dallas…even the rich need help paying their bills sometimes. This is one of those times.
March 4th, 2011 at 11:44 am
Itzsteve,
I don’t blame Al for everything related to JaBust…only that Al enabled JaBust’s slothful behavior by allowing him to skip practice, skip meetings, come in overweight, play terribly and still keep his starting job.
The player’s 1st approach is not what JaBust needed…he needed Marine Corps like discipline and the Raiders just are not the type of franchise to deliver it because the way coaches are swapped in and out and their relative lack of authority
March 4th, 2011 at 11:46 am
There will be no strike or lockout. Too much money on the line and they aren’t about to risk a decade or more to recover fan support…..baseball ceded its top spot after the 1994 strike.
Prior to that strike, baseball was the #1 sport in the USA…the NHL put itself on Versus after crippling strikes.
Football won’t make that same mistake….They will hike the prices a couple of percentage points to make up the difference. Ratings still come in very strong.
March 4th, 2011 at 11:46 am
JR even had a babysitter. A Hall Of Fame babysitter at that. JR has JR to blame…and Al to thank for his loyalty and faith in him, for as long as it lasted.
March 4th, 2011 at 11:50 am
I’ll say it first…on average, NFL ticket prices will go down this year, not up, if they change at all.
March 4th, 2011 at 11:52 am
DMAC Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 9:58 am
Bruce Campbell is expected to start “somewhere on the offensive line” next season.
The most obvious spot is left guard as Robert Gallery’s replacement, though right guard (for Cooper Carlisle) and right tackle (for Langston Walker) are also possibilities. Campbell was essentially red-shirted as a developmental project last year. Owner Al Davis was said to be peeved at former coach Tom Cable for not giving Campbell an audition in the season finale.
Related: Langston Walker, Cooper Carlisle
Source: San Francisco Chronicle
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thats good news…the kid can play, cable was a moron…
March 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
the NFL is a “professional” league. No player that comes into it should have motivation issues. Everything you state as his short comings should have been a non issue. It is expected from every player. I imagine it was very exhausting for the staff to spend their day just trying to motivate and hand hold someone to do a job. You can’t motivate and teach someone who doesn’t want to learn…
March 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
Goor riddance to gallery…hope he winds up in the afc west…
March 4th, 2011 at 11:54 am
He’s likely banking on Miller and Bush (plus Bryant and Reece) being RFAs
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agreed with YA!
March 4th, 2011 at 11:55 am
I am not a BRL fan however, him losing his uncle impacted him greatly…He was floating in the bay area without a rudder…
March 4th, 2011 at 11:56 am
I have over stayed my welcom….Baack to the shadows…
1 NATION….
March 4th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
Thec,
love you bro … but I don’t understand how you can praise Bruce Campbell and then trash Robert Gallery just 2 posts later!
Gallery was our best O-Lineman and about 90 percent of Raider Nation loved this guy at LG and thought he should have made at least 1 Pro Bowl since 2007
BCamp was a typical Al Davis selection, combine freak, who never sniffed the field during the regular season because Cooper Carlisle (who everybody hates – except JFB) wasn’t even being challenged by him at RG … and when Walker got injured it was Mario Henderson playing RT, not the rookie “phenom”
March 4th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
He was floating in the bay area without a rudder
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muscle weighs more than fat!
JaWalrus sunk Davis’ battleship
March 4th, 2011 at 12:05 pm
# CMon Man Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Is Wiz really a viable starting rookie or are we overrating him because of his relation to Steve Wisniewski
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In spite of some people around here claiming he’s more of a 3rd round (or even 4th round) prospect, I haven’t seen a single analyst that has him going any later than the second round. New England, Chicago, Indy, and Detroit are all rumored to be interested in him.
Word is he’s one of the more pro-ready prospects. The biggest knock on him is his size, which is why analysts have said in a ZBS he can play OG or C, but in more of a power scheme he’s really only suited for the C position.
Personally I’d prefer for the Raiders to take Cannon or Ijalana in the 2nd round, and wait for Kirkpatrick (who has the size to play C or OG in a power blocking scheme) in the third, but I definitely won’t be complaining if Wisniewski is the pick in the 2nd round. Plus if anyone can get the most out of him, it’s his uncle.
I do think Cannon and Ijalana would be better picks if they’re still on the board, however, because those guys can play either OG or RT. And both of those are shaping up to be bigger positions of need than C.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Just read an article where it said Langston walker gave up 44 QB disruptions on the year. WOW!
We definitely need a new RT.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
Didn’t Walker play some at guard and looked pretty good 2?
Maybe that’s what he’s best suited for.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Robert Gallery missed 14 games over the past 2 years, but prior to that he only missed 6 games in 5 years!
20 games in a 7 year period isn’t that bad for a guy who makes his living in the trenches …
Bob Sanders has only played in 9 games over the past 3 seasons and everybody in here is pi$$ing their pants because the Chargers signed him!
so a safety that misses that much time can still be considered tough as nails, but a tackle or guard that misses less than half of that time is “injury prone” ???
Puhleeze.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Yeah, to me, RT is the position that most desperately needs an upgrade. As good as the running game was last season, the run blocking was abysmal off the right side. And guys like Woodley and Mathis had a field day with Walker and Henderson.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
DMAC,
Big Langston played LG in place of Robert Gallery when he got hurt in 2009. He made the switch to RT because we left Cornell Green go and Walker had experience at RT in Oakland & Buffalo. Barnes, Henderson & Campbell weren’t even considered I guess. It was just “beat Erik Pears and the job is yours”
March 4th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
Gallery was also instrumental to Veldheer’s progress.
I’m not going to knock the guy. He was more than adequate at LG when he was healthy. It’s just a shame the two sides couldn’t come to a reasonable contract number, especially considering the fact that for the first few years of his career he made #2 overall pick money.
But after seeing Routt, Henderson, and Wimbley get huge paydays, Gallery probably figured he could try to get in on it. He’ll probably make around $5 million from some guard-needy team on the open market.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
guys like Woodley and Mathis had a field day with Walker and Henderson
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give the RT job to Barnes!
Bruce Campbell should be the FB or Blocking TE if we’re looking for an athletic O-Lineman that doesn’t contribute elsewhere
March 4th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Once again the Raiders show what a petty, classless bunch of morons they have in their front office.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
If the Raiders taken an offensive lineman in the second (and I hope they do at the moment), I’m hoping it’s Marcus Cannon. And it’s not out of the realm of possibility; dude is athletic as hell.
Check his combine numbers: 5.20 40 time; 33 reps on the benchpress. Keep in mind he ran that 40 at 6′5″, 358 pounds. He could even play right tackle.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
gallery was part of the losing culture and shouldve been gone with javon walker….
March 4th, 2011 at 12:17 pm
after seeing Routt, Henderson, and Wimbley get huge paydays, Gallery probably figured he could try to get in on it. He’ll probably make around $5 million from some guard-needy team on the open market.
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YA,
We’re paying Seymour $15 million per season for a bottom 3 run defense, but we’re only offering Gallery $2.5 million per season for a top 3 run offense
Right?
March 4th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
gallery was part of the losing culture
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False.
How many games do you expect to win over the past 7-8 years with a crappy GM, crappy HC’s and crappy QB’s ???
We didn’t win or lose games because of Robert Gallery. Miss me on that one dude
March 4th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
BBL!!!!!
March 4th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
itzSteve Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 11:53 am
the NFL is a “professional” league. No player that comes into it should have motivation issues. Everything you state as his short comings should have been a non issue. It is expected from every player. I imagine it was very exhausting for the staff to spend their day just trying to motivate and hand hold someone to do a job. You can’t motivate and teach someone who doesn’t want to learn…
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Yup. But then again JaBust didn’t draft himself.
Gotta due the background checks, talk to coaches, conduct a thorough interview etc…issue discipline when the plays screws up…
Raiders didn’t do well with that….Davis admitted as much on the background checks etc.
Character is as important as 40x and arm strength.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
YA,
We’re paying Seymour $15 million per season for a bottom 3 run defense, but we’re only offering Gallery $2.5 million per season for a top 3 run offense
Right?
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And an aging John Henderson, who sat out for seven games, got $4 million a year. I don’t blame Gallery for figuring that maybe he’d stay if he could get the Raiders to pay him like that.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
If someone is going to say Gallery was part of a losing culture so he should be let go,well then there are 52 other guys who should also be put in the same category.Except for the punter and the PK no one has won with the team so they are all part of the ‘losing culture’.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:24 pm
Bruce Campbell?
Hmmm, big unknown if you ask me. Let’s see…he has the measurables that go off the chart yet no one took him until Al Davis in the 4th round. I wonder how far he falls if not for Al, who you know was chomping at the bit to pick him up.
He also left college early and had TERRIBLE tape.
Then he gets here and barely sees the field for a team with huge question marks at both tackle positions and guard.
Cable is not a total idiot when it comes to the o-line. Bruce campbell couldn’t get on the field.
Now he’s just going to slot right in. I hope he’s ready because the evidence suggests otherwise.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Later peoples!
Go A’s!
Go Dubs!
Go Cal Bears!
Go Raiders!
Have a good weekend Nation.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
John Herrera floated the numbers that Gallery was asking for so therefore the $8 million figure is totally unsubstantiated.Herrera is nothing but a clown.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
lefty12 Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
If someone is going to say Gallery was part of a losing culture so he should be let go,well then there are 52 other guys who should also be put in the same category.Except for the punter and the PK no one has won with the team so they are all part of the ‘losing culture’.
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True….but then again the Raiders pretty much have broomed out everyone after 2006.
Who’s left?
Routt, who is grossly overrated and overpaid.
The kicker and punter (hardly the backbone of any team
Sam Williams and Thomas Howard.
The Raiders have developed no-one and have nothing to show for all of their drafts prior to 2007.
That and the coaching chaos has helped to tarnish Davis’ recent 25 year legacy
March 4th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
8 mil a year was his asking price? what a fucn idiot, did he or did he not get 76 mil from his first contract? so he can come in and be a franchise tackle? left tackle for that matter, this dude sucs, sucked, and will always suc. i for one was tired of seeing his sorry asss on the dirt after attempting one of those z.b.s. blocks and hit air on his way down. glad to see him gone, what a waste.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
and getting no compensation for losing Nnamdi is really a disgrace and the highest measure of incompetence.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
when was gallery drafted? How many wins does he have before last year? The guy was a bust at LT, avg at guard.You cant hold russell accountable at #1 but not gallery…the guy set the team back since he put on a raider jersey.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Gallery wanted out if he asked for $8mm.
Too bad they couldn’t find an agreement though.
you are looking at 4 new starters on the o-line…hardly the recipe for success — unless you are on the Kool-Aid
Ohhhhh YEahhhh!
March 4th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
CMon Man Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Gallery wanted out if he asked for $8mm.
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I think you’re probably on to something there.
He decided to throw out a ridiculously huge number, figuring he’d either get let go to somewhere else or get a paid an exorbitant amount. Either way, he wins.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:31 pm
What I wonder is just how much support Satele has from HueJax and the old man. Was he strictly a Cable guy or might he stay?
March 4th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
olinesux Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
when was gallery drafted? How many wins does he have before last year? The guy was a bust at LT, avg at guard.You cant hold russell accountable at #1 but not gallery…the guy set the team back since he put on a raider jersey.
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Yup he was a big bust though.
All the 1st round picks from
Bates – bust
Asomugha – leaving with no compensation
Washington – Bust
Moss – in trade, bust
Gallery – Bust
Huff – Leaving with no compensation
DHB – Let’s just call it as we see it
So McClain and DMAC is all the Raiders have to show for 7 or 8 years of 1st round picks.
Its a MIRACLE this team is competitive at all…..
And don’t forget
Howard = Bust
deAngelo Hall = traded for 2nd rounder, bust
Just no development of talent in Oakland
March 4th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
maybe some people in here dont remember how fun it was when he was at tackle….worse than any tackle in the last decade…hands down…or in the case of gallery his whole body down on the ground after missing another block…
March 4th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
NFL’s biggest bust faces foreclosure: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i knew this day would come, when i could read about how stupid this dude really is. where the hellll is his momma at now? prob walking around with her mink coats being stupid like her son.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
JaDarius better step it up big time next year
March 4th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
olinesux Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
maybe some people in here dont remember how fun it was when he was at tackle….worse than any tackle in the last decade…hands down…or in the case of gallery his whole body down on the ground after missing another block…
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Kwame Harris was pretty bad
March 4th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
big pep Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 12:34 pm
NFL’s biggest bust faces foreclosure: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i knew this day would come, when i could read about how stupid this dude really is.
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Yup, pretty stupid. Gotta wonder if any of these character flaws were revealed during the recruiting process. What kind of interviews did Al do? Did they do a background check?
Why wasn’t JaBustus penalized for missing practice, sleeping in meetings, showing up overweight?
Oaktown!
March 4th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
harris was bad as well…real bad.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
gallery sucd from day one, ive watched this dude more than anyone we have drafted other than that fat pig J.R. and they are hands down, bar none, absolutely the worst picks weve had since gallery was drafted. huff is in 3rd place and if he leaves, oh well.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
how bout A.D. starts his interviews with, what is your name young man? and if they cant clearly state there name so that anybody can understand them, they should just stop there and continue with the next guy.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
If only the Raiders could develop players. They don’t. 5 Head coaches in 8 years makes developing players, impossible!
But you dumbasses have the tail wagging the dog.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Yup he was a big bust though.
All the 1st round picks from
Bates – bust
Asomugha – leaving with no compensation
Washington – Bust
Moss – in trade, bust
Gallery – Bust
Huff – Leaving with no compensation
DHB – Let’s just call it as we see it
So McClain and DMAC is all the Raiders have to show for 7 or 8 years of 1st round picks.
Its a MIRACLE this team is competitive at all…..
And don’t forget
Howard = Bust
deAngelo Hall = traded for 2nd rounder, bust
Just no development of talent in Oakland
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Oops…forgot about the biggest BUST of all1!!!!!
JaBustus!
It is a MIRACLE that this team is competitive.
The core of this team has less than 3 years of experience…THEY HAD TO ADD SEYMOUR!
Losing Aso with no compensation will cememt Davis’ 8 year draft run as one of, if not the, worst in NFL history.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
Completely off subject but posters might want to take a look at this kid:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/CB/Jalil-Brown.php
March 4th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
How about if Al Davis could walk, or go to the combine himself?
March 4th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
KoolKell Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
If only the Raiders could develop players. They don’t. 5 Head coaches in 8 years makes developing players, impossible!
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That is very true KoolKell.
However, a glimmer of hope seems to be that Hue Jackson talks like and looks like a legit head coach. A guy that is respected in the league.
So hopefully the coddling stops and hopefully Hue is able to assert his authority on plodding talent
March 4th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
Al Davis, in charge of the draft, and can’t even attend the Combine, or other Pro Day workouts.
Too Old & Senile.
March 4th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
How bout we start the interview with, “Mr Davis do you know who I am”?
March 4th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Kim Newton, really Mr Davis?
March 4th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
@428: Maybe the COA thinks Hue and crew are more than capable of delivering the goods. Maybe just maybe Al gives his staff more rope/power than the pundits and pinheads say….
March 4th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Al needs to give the coaches the rope and power to do what needs to be done.
Especially on player discipline and running camps.
Especially on adjusting the scheme. The Raiders do not have the horses on defense to run the style they want to. They have to scheme to hide weaknesses in the run defense and increasingly in the secondary with the departure of Huff and Aso
4 new starters on the o-line….and no receiver to really step up and be the number 1 guy…not too mention re-signing Miller.
A lot on the plate for sure
March 4th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
O-LINE ALL THE WAY!!!!! come april.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
So did anyone see any quarterbacks at the combine that would fit the raiders system. any strong armed smart future leaders.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
anthonyraiders Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
So did anyone see any quarterbacks at the combine that would fit the raiders system. any strong armed smart future leaders.
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QB is not the focus now.
You need and not in this order:
4 O-Lineman to start
1 Wide Receiver that can catch and stay healthy
1 Weak Side Linebacker
1 Tight End – if Miller is not re-signed
1 Free Safety – if Huff is not re-signed
1 Cornerback – if Aso is not re-signed
1 Defensive Tackle – Run defense needs help!!!!!
1 Running BAck – if Bush is not re-signed
Now if you think guys like Brandon Myers, Jeremy Ware, Walter McFadden, Quentin Groves, DHB and Satele, Loper, Bruce Campbell, Langston Walker, Khalif Barnes, Hiram Eugene can get the job done…
Then by all means…please draft a QB
March 4th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Four new starters on the offensive line SOUNDS ridiculous, and I’ve read in here that some folks think it’s impossible and will never happen.
While I think that Satele and Carlisle will start the season for us and that L Walker could also begin the year at RT, I am also aware that we had three new starters at linebacker last season, so four new faces on the o-line next year is certainly not out of the question.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Dont think i dont know all the problems on this team. I just wanted to see if anyone noticed any qb’s that fit the system. We could have all the problems in the world but does Al care? We will still take at least 3 athletes and I can hope 1 will be a quarterback.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Teach,
WHy does it sound ridiculous.
Carlisle is rumored to be out the door. Gallery is already gone…and Satele’s hold on the job is a big unknown…remember they tried to get Veldheer in there to replace him.
So there is at least 3 new starters that are very likely….Walker might make it.
As for the three new LBs….they did a decent job I guess…but someone needs to explain to me why this Raider team is not competitive against the run?
Year after year after year of bad run defense.
Claims of “they just have to play better” is the only intelligent answer anyone can come up with.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I hope D-tackle is taken in the second round. I know we probably lost auso, but with a pick of DL like Paea, we would be solid. We could then in theory put pressure on the QB and stop the run. We can hide are average corners with good pressure
March 4th, 2011 at 1:51 pm
anthonyraiders Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
I hope D-tackle is taken in the second round. I know we probably lost auso, but with a pick of DL like Paea, we would be solid. We could then in theory put pressure on the QB and stop the run. We can hide are average corners with good pressure
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Your theory is going to be the only way this defense can be successfull. They have to put a lot of pressure on the QBs and stop the run with the front 7.
Leave both safeties in zone coverage and hope that by stopping the run you put the opponent in ovbvious passing downs where you can go to Nickle and Dime defenses.
If they go man up with a bunch of late round draft picks trying to prove themselves…they will get lit up
March 4th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Hey KK! did he run the draft last year? and how did we do? If he does even close to that what do you care if he never again goes to the combine, the damn things on TV now anyway and whom ever he wants to have face time with he can fly out here and spend as much time as he wishes. It’s the results that matter.
We have capable people doing the legwork and compiling data. He watches more film than anyone and I think he’ll do fine. I just want this mess with the lockout to get done if that doesn’t get done nothing else matters.
I WANT COLIN KAEPERNICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!………………..period
March 4th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Cmon Man,
It’s a numbers game. How many draft picks do you want to use on o-linemen when we have other holes, and if you do draft more than a couple, how many are going to start? With Miller, Huff and Bush still unsigned, how much money do you have left for free agents that can come in and start?
Carlisle’s rumoured departure is something I’ve only read about in here. As you said yourself, no one really knows about Satele’s status. There is nothing substantive enough in either case to believe that they will be gone, much less lose their starting jobs. There are three guys already on the roster that could play RT if Davis and the coaching staff wants to go that way.
I’m merely looking at it from a “whole team” perspective, and including the other things that need to be addressed as well. The team may very well feel that we need four new starters. Whether that can get done in one offseason is another thing altogether.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
I have read so many comments about how people are so glad to lose gallery and that carlise might be on his way out. People have some short memory. 2nd rank running game in nfl. Most yards coming behind gallery.
March 4th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
423.KoolKell Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
If only the Raiders could develop players. They don’t. 5 Head coaches in 8 years makes developing players, impossible!
But you dumbasses have the tail wagging the dog.
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Ronald Curry was a player who was moved from QB to WR with modest success.
Robert Gallery is a player who was moved from LT to LG with a fair amount of success.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a player who was moved from S to CB with phenomenal success.
Tommy Kelly and Lamarr Houston have both been switched back and forth between DE and DT with recent success.
I agree that the coach switching hampers player development, but you overstate your case.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Can you see DHB catching a 59 mph Kaepernick pass?
Neither can I…
March 4th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
CMon Man Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
but someone needs to explain to me why this Raider team is not competitive against the run?
Year after year after year of bad run defense.
Claims of “they just have to play better” is the only intelligent answer anyone can come up with.
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I have a different theory on the run defense issue. Specifically, we only have 7 defenders against the run instead of the full 11. That’s a 37% reduction of players. The reason I say this is that we are almost always in Man coverage and the effect of that is our DB’s are running down field, with their eyes on their man, and they don’t see runners breaking through the 1st & second level defenders (D-line & LB’ers). By the time the DB’s see the runner there’s already a large gain underway. With Zone coverage the DB’s see runners much earlier and can react quicker. That’s just my take on it.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Davy don’t forget Marcel Reece being moved from receiver to FB.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Continuity is important to the OL, so I’d like to see Satele and others resigned. But the unit wasn’t the strength of the team in 2011 and hasn’t been for years. Starters should come back for stability, but competition needs to be brought in.
John Clayton said in a Q & A that he worried about the Raiders ability to take care of the O Line, thinks they won’t get it done. I think they can do it, but I want to see a commitment in the draft and in FA. 2nd and/or 3rd round, at least two before the fifth round.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Have to agree that the Raiders can’t develop talent. If they could develop talent we’d see it in the W column. Nnamdi & Mcfadden are home grown, but who else?
March 4th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Coach Huey is playing with fire if he thinks he can add four new starters on the O-Line and hope they do far better than last years unit.
Last years unti improved as the season went on and they did well with run blocking and were starting to play well as a unit.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
438.CMon Man Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
Teach,
WHy does it sound ridiculous.
Carlisle is rumored to be out the door. Gallery is already gone…and Satele’s hold on the job is a big unknown…remember they tried to get Veldheer in there to replace him.
So there is at least 3 new starters that are very likely….Walker might make it.
As for the three new LBs….they did a decent job I guess…but someone needs to explain to me why this Raider team is not competitive against the run?
Year after year after year of bad run defense.
Claims of “they just have to play better” is the only intelligent answer anyone can come up with.
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The O-Line is a whole different animal than the 3 starters on the LB Corp.
March 4th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
450.DKnight007 Says:
March 4th, 2011 at 2:31 pm
Coach Huey is playing with fire if he thinks he can add four new starters on the O-Line and hope they do far better than last years unit.
Last years unti improved as the season went on and they did well with run blocking and were starting to play well as a unit.
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Plus by adding four new potential starters….there are basically saying they are starting all over again.
That means they will take time to gel and learn how to play as a unit.
Not good….this team needs to win NOW….not in 2 years, not in 5 years and sure as hell not in 10 years!
March 4th, 2011 at 2:42 pm
God I hope G/RT MARCUS CANNON is still there when the Raiders pick at #48…..I’m starting to doubt it though.
Ugh
March 4th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
I think the reason we cant stop the run is are system and abilities of D lineman. First from what ive seen the raiders are a pass rush no gap control d-line. we do not have a DL who takes up space and takes up blocks, opening up lanes for the lb’s. seymor could do that but we use him more for the upfield pass rush. kelley is just the product of being along side a good DL “seymor”. Houston is more pass rusher and henderson is to old. Bryant in my opinion is a better base end. No pure run stopping beast, take up space, need know credit moose on this team. Paea second round please.
March 4th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
lol Jamarcus meet Jaforclosure
JR’s house in Oaktown is being forclosed on
March 4th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
Free agent Zach Miller said Friday that he’s not necessarily tied to re-signing with the Raiders.
“I’d like to be back in Oakland but I’m open to other opportunities,” he said. The Raiders likely tendered Miller as a restricted free agent, but the four-year vet is going to hit the open market once a new CBA is reached. Miller just so happens to be Oakland’s NFLPA rep. He called the progress of negotiations between the players and owners “absolutely a good thing.”
March 4th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Macho Man, I’d give you Nnamdi as home grown but Darren McFadden?!? He was busting with talent at the draft. Needed some help picking up blitzes and such but….
How ’bout Marcel Reece? Or Huff? Or Loper or Veldheer or Satele or Routt or Branch or Trevor Scott? Raiders are as good or bad at developing talent as anyone else. If you have a good coaching staff and a clear message you have better results. We haven’t always had that. I think we do now tho…
March 5th, 2012 at 2:59 am
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